| 00:05.22 | Atriace | I've got another stumper. I've created a frame outside of a function, registered an event to it, and set a script to fire when it occurs. The message outside of the first if statement fires once, but the event inside the first if statement never fires. Here's the code: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/87238 |
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| 00:07.07 | Shirik | whee, back to dialup for 2 months again, this will be fun :) |
| 00:07.25 | Seerah | :( |
| 00:07.33 | Lopeppeppy | Aww. *comfort* |
| 00:07.56 | bleeter | :( |
| 00:08.07 | Shirik | psh, I'm used to it by now. Every year for the last 2 years :) |
| 00:08.12 | Atriace | By my accounts, the first chat message should be firing anytime any event is fired... but just once? The function shouldn't even be read until it's called, and there's nothing else that's calling it other than the SetScript. |
| 00:08.57 | Atriace | Shirik: going home for the summer? |
| 00:09.12 | Shirik | not exactly "home" but you can say that |
| 00:11.26 | Gotai | Atriace, if I understand correctly function(event) blabla end, implies only that the first argument passed to the function is stored in a var called event. It does not necessarily have to be the event. The first arg passed is the frame, so you're checking if the frame matches your event, which it doesn't. |
| 00:12.02 | Atriace | oh.... so function(self, event) would be correct? |
| 00:12.04 | Gotai | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(frame, event) FG_OnEvent(event) end) should do the trick. |
| 00:12.07 | Gotai | Aye |
| 00:12.13 | Atriace | That makes sense. |
| 00:19.16 | Atriace | Saddly, it's still only firing once. |
| 00:26.21 | Gotai | It only prints "Event fired" and not "Player entered world"? |
| 00:26.27 | Atriace | Yup |
| 00:26.38 | Atriace | And "Event fired" only once, at that. |
| 00:27.27 | Gotai | But that's expected of Player Entering World, isn't it? |
| 00:28.35 | Atriace | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD should only fire once, yes. |
| 00:30.19 | Gotai | Are you sure you saved your code? Cause it works fine here, and I don't really see why it wouldn't for you. |
| 00:30.23 | Atriace | Meh... I only need the function to fire once anyway, I guess. I can deal with this anomoly some other time. |
| 00:30.40 | Atriace | Well, that's odd, Gotai. |
| 00:30.50 | Atriace | Thanks for the confirmation though. |
| 00:31.35 | Gotai | At least it's doing what I'd expect it to do, which is print Event fired and then Player entered world on login. |
| 00:41.22 | Wizardling | Trouble with Cosmos: I've lost it's minimap button a few versions ago and now have lost the alphamap bar in the main screen |
| 00:41.43 | KarlKFI | pos ton forum |
| 00:41.47 | KarlKFI | post on forum |
| 00:43.00 | Wizardling | damnit |
| 00:59.36 | MentalPower | Shirik: halp! MessageBox(NULL, "CreateScene called", "CreateScene called", MB_OK | MB_ICONERROR | MB_TASKMODAL); says "error C2664: 'MessageBoxW' : cannot convert parameter 2 from 'const char [19]' to 'LPCWSTR'" |
| 00:59.49 | Shirik | L"CreateScene called" |
| 00:59.53 | Shirik | not "CreateScene called" |
| 01:00.08 | Shirik | or _T("CreateScene called" |
| 01:00.12 | Shirik | with the closing ) |
| 01:00.20 | Shirik | char != wchar_t |
| 01:00.39 | MentalPower | it should be smart enough tho |
| 01:00.41 | Shirik | you could alsu use MessageBoxA instead of MessageBox/MessageBoxW |
| 01:00.44 | MentalPower | at least for string literals |
| 01:00.53 | Shirik | or you could turn off unicode in the compiler options |
| 01:01.11 | MentalPower | thats not an option (turning off unicode) |
| 01:01.29 | Shirik | then prefix your string literals with L, run them through _T, or use MessageBoxA :) |
| 01:01.38 | MentalPower | yeah, the L"" thing worked |
| 01:01.42 | Shirik | _T is actually the preferred method |
| 01:02.01 | MentalPower | what *are* L and _T? |
| 01:02.04 | Shirik | it doesn't do anything different than the L, just its definition changes depending on whether or not UNICODE is defined |
| 01:02.27 | Shirik | L is "long string" which is just a const wchar_t* instead of a const char* |
| 01:02.51 | Shirik | _T(x) is a macro which prefixes an L when UNICODE is defined, or does nothing when not defined |
| 01:03.21 | MentalPower | _T identifier not found |
| 01:03.29 | Shirik | !? |
| 01:03.40 | Shirik | oh I think it's in..... <tchar.h> ? |
| 01:03.46 | MentalPower | error C3861: '_T': identifier not found |
| 01:03.57 | JoshBork1 | tchars suck |
| 01:04.23 | MentalPower | yup tchar.h |
| 01:04.26 | Shirik | ha, why's that? |
| 01:04.42 | JoshBorke | because of that bullshit |
| 01:04.54 | Shirik | you get used to it :) |
| 01:05.02 | Shirik | that's why I knew MentalPower's mistake in half a second, lol |
| 01:05.28 | MentalPower | ok, related one |
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| 01:06.49 | MentalPower | exception returns std::string type |
| 01:06.57 | MentalPower | how do I feed it into MessageBoxW? |
| 01:07.08 | Shirik | string.c_str( |
| 01:07.13 | Shirik | string.c_str() |
| 01:07.20 | Shirik | returns a const char |
| 01:07.32 | Shirik | you'll need to convert that to a multi-byte string or use MessageBoxA |
| 01:07.41 | MentalPower | ... |
| 01:07.51 | MentalPower | I think I'll just use MessageBoxA |
| 01:08.25 | MentalPower | and then microsoft moans whenever stuff doesn't use best practices... |
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| 01:10.19 | Shirik | nothing wrong with MessageBoxA |
| 01:10.24 | Shirik | assuming you know the implications |
| 01:10.32 | MentalPower | which are? |
| 01:10.49 | Shirik | it won't be able to display multibyte chars, specifically japanese, etc. |
| 01:11.01 | Shirik | but std::string is evil anyway |
| 01:11.10 | Shirik | it's your fault for using it imo :P |
| 01:12.05 | MentalPower | why is std::string evil? |
| 01:12.09 | MentalPower | and why is it my fault? |
| 01:13.57 | Shirik | I just don't like it :P |
| 01:14.01 | Shirik | don't really have a good reason |
| 01:14.28 | MentalPower | (in case you were wondering I'm delving into C++ now (univ taught computer engineers programming with C) and this is also my first endeavor into the Win32 API) |
| 01:15.19 | Shirik | I love C++ |
| 01:15.22 | Shirik | I hate the standard library |
| 01:15.27 | Cide | Shirik: what's a better alternative? |
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| 01:15.40 | Shirik | char*, wchar_t* |
| 01:15.47 | Cide | eh, screw that |
| 01:15.50 | Cide | too low level for me |
| 01:16.00 | Shirik | qq moar? :P |
| 01:16.03 | Cide | yep :P |
| 01:17.09 | Cide | I have to code like 200 lines of code |
| 01:17.40 | Cide | for tomorrow (and it's 3am here).. so I really should get started |
| 01:18.17 | MentalPower | gnight all |
| 01:18.21 | Cide | night MP |
| 01:24.30 | art3mis | anyone sick of thier AOC beta account wanna gimme? |
| 01:24.50 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:25.15 | Tekkub | As a wise dorf flightmaster once told my as I flew away... "Keep your feet..." |
| 01:25.33 | Lopeppeppy | "... out of the soup." |
| 01:25.43 | Tekkub | no, just keep you feet |
| 01:26.26 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. My feet are small. What if I want new ones? |
| 01:27.09 | art3mis | buy clown shoes |
| 01:27.12 | art3mis | and preten |
| 01:27.13 | art3mis | d |
| 01:28.15 | Shirik | put socks on |
| 01:28.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'm indoors, Shirik, no socks. |
| 01:29.27 | Shirik | but your feet wouldn't look so small |
| 01:29.39 | art3mis | what if she wears those little ankle socks |
| 01:29.54 | Shirik | then people would be too distracted by the cuteness |
| 01:29.57 | Shirik | to notice the size |
| 01:31.29 | Lopeppeppy | Cute. |
| 01:31.48 | Shirik | :( |
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| 01:31.59 | ckknight | 's* |
| 01:32.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, smooth. |
| 01:32.35 | Keias | I hope you have socks on. |
| 01:32.56 | Shirik | she's inside |
| 01:33.32 | Shirik | therefore she does not have socks on |
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| 01:37.49 | Cide | you don't wear socks indoors? |
| 01:38.34 | kergoth | boo for socks |
| 01:38.45 | Shirik | (21:28:42) (+Lopeppeppy) I'm indoors, Shirik, no socks. |
| 01:40.25 | Keias | You sock haters disgust me. |
| 01:40.55 | Shirik | hey I like socks |
| 01:40.55 | Lopeppeppy | My sock habits. *laugh* You don't have to like 'em. |
| 01:40.59 | Shirik | but Lopeppeppy doesn't :( |
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| 01:41.54 | Lopeppeppy | I like them. They just get in the way, that's all. |
| 01:44.18 | Kaso | I really dont understand The Force Unleashed |
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| 01:44.34 | Kaso | they go to all that effort to push it on a million consoles and not a PC release |
| 01:44.46 | Kaso | they even freaking put it on the ngage! |
| 01:50.48 | Kaso | But of course its somehow acceptable to make pc users wait months, years for a game which is by then old news |
| 01:50.49 | Kaso | >.< |
| 01:50.50 | Yssaril | Kaso: exactly what i thought ohh well not getting my money i guess |
| 01:51.30 | Kaso | GTA4 is another one which pisses me off |
| 01:58.41 | Cide | I understand them |
| 01:58.46 | Cide | piracy is a bitch |
| 01:59.10 | Cide | games are more popular on PC's but still sell like 4x more on console |
| 02:00.49 | Kaso | I dont doubt thats true, but ive never really seen statistics for sales on simultanious console/pc launches |
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| 02:06.54 | Arrowmaster | every gta game since 3 has had a long ass delay until the pc release |
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| 02:08.51 | Kaso | indeed i remeber, i think GTA3 on pc came out around the same time vice city did on PS |
| 02:09.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont think so |
| 02:09.26 | durcyn | nope, gta3 was still sony's exclusivity contract, it was ps2 for a minimum of a year |
| 02:09.34 | Arrowmaster | gta3 was a long ass fucking time ago |
| 02:10.20 | Kaso | Damn exclusivity :< |
| 02:10.23 | Arrowmaster | im kinda shocked that gta4 came out on 360 |
| 02:10.29 | Kaso | i rembering it being long ass def |
| 02:10.38 | Arrowmaster | since all the others were playstation exclusives for a while |
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| 03:21.27 | Mikk | ~emulate Shirik |
| 03:21.30 | purl | oh I'm an idiot |
| 03:21.50 | Fisker- | ~emulate Mikk |
| 03:21.51 | purl | ACTION butts his nose into whatever you were discussing right there and dumps his opinion on you like a metric ton of feces. Mikk never sleeps, he edits |
| 03:21.52 | Fisker- | good Shirik |
| 03:23.54 | Mikk | purl: no, emulate Shirik is <reply>I'll answer that in a few minutes when this web page has finished loading... |
| 03:23.54 | purl | okay, Mikk |
| 03:24.03 | Shirik | ~kill Mikk |
| 03:24.04 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited fluxmeson gun at Mikk |
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| 03:58.05 | kandoko | ~botsnack |
| 03:58.05 | purl | kandoko: thanks |
| 03:58.08 | Shirik | hey guys, important info |
| 03:58.17 | Shirik | (23:57:43) (@Cairenn|afk) so sure, lots of pics, all over the web ;) |
| 03:58.21 | Lopeppeppy | You got cable? |
| 03:59.09 | Shirik | no but I did purchase an EVDO card |
| 03:59.14 | Shirik | we'll see how well that goes in a few days |
| 04:00.01 | dylanm | Shirik: Uh, what's she talking about |
| 04:00.51 | Shirik | that's up to your imagination :) |
| 04:02.37 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 04:02.51 | Cairenn|afk | (2008-05-04 23:55:39) ***Cairenn returns, having greatly appeased both her girly girl side and her geek side |
| 04:02.51 | Cairenn|afk | (2008-05-04 23:56:37) Shirik: ooh |
| 04:02.51 | Cairenn|afk | (2008-05-04 23:56:41) Shirik: pics? ;) |
| 04:02.51 | Cairenn|afk | (2008-05-04 23:56:55) Shirik: anyway, wb Cairenn|afk :) |
| 04:02.51 | Cairenn|afk | (2008-05-04 23:57:18) Cairenn: they were appeased by watching Made of Honor and Iron Man |
| 04:02.52 | Cairenn|afk | (2008-05-04 23:57:29) Cairenn: so sure, lots of pics, all over the web ;) |
| 04:03.45 | Shirik | night all |
| 04:04.29 | Cairenn|afk | night Shirik |
| 04:05.00 | Mikk | ~failrik |
| 04:05.01 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 04:05.37 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 04:06.02 | Lopeppeppy | Or just smack him with the /kick stick for fun. :P |
| 04:06.17 | Cairenn|afk | that happens periodically |
| 04:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | I will watch for this to happen much more diligently, it could be fun!! |
| 04:08.42 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
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| 04:15.32 | Mikk | damn. shirik isn't in #norganna |
| 04:16.18 | Lopeppeppy | I think he actually and really went to bed or something human like that. |
| 04:17.09 | Mikk | Oh, yeah, shirik is one of those guys that actually leave the channel when they go to bed |
| 04:17.40 | Cairenn|afk | actually, not normally, but he's on dial up atm |
| 04:18.18 | Mikk | No, really, he is? Only takes him ~2 minutes to get something posted on pastey.net >.< |
| 04:18.35 | Mikk | (wtf kind of dialup does he use? old 1200/300 audio modem?) |
| 04:18.47 | Antiarc | I leave the channel when I go to bed |
| 04:18.47 | Lopeppeppy | One that he doesn't control, poor creature. |
| 04:18.50 | Antiarc | I just never go to bed |
| 04:19.31 | Mikk | Granted, 24 Mbit adsl is plenty of download... but the upstream blows =( |
| 04:20.28 | Mikk | Lopeppeppy: So, is it "crazy ppeppy" or is it "low-pep-peppy"? |
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| 04:22.19 | Lopeppeppy | Well, i admit to being crazy like a fox. And it's Low-p-PEP-y |
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| 04:57.21 | Sixen_ | Peppy, you fox, you./ |
| 04:59.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yip. |
| 04:59.17 | Sixen_ | =p |
| 04:59.34 | Lopeppeppy | Note the careful spelling choice so as not to get anyone's tails in a twist. |
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| 05:30.19 | Syzgyn | Whats that mod that ties into Quartz and hides certain casts from showing? |
| 05:30.44 | Tem | it's named for the cast on RoS that you can't interrupt |
| 05:30.50 | Tem | can't think of the name offhand |
| 05:30.54 | Syzgyn | theres Deaden |
| 05:30.56 | Tem | but look for that |
| 05:31.02 | Syzgyn | but theres another one that is more general I thought |
| 05:31.08 | Tem | *shrug* |
| 05:31.09 | Syzgyn | unless they're the same mod |
| 05:31.09 | Tem | I dunno |
| 05:31.45 | durcyn | Deaden was originally just for ros, it does generic stuff now |
| 05:32.19 | Syzgyn | I found it: NoSeeNoInterrupt |
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| 06:10.55 | Antiarc | Deaden lets you suppress any number of spells now |
| 06:11.05 | Antiarc | Deadened, rather |
| 06:13.22 | NightHawkTheSane | random question... does anyone happen to have a WWS of a bloodboil kill i could peruse? |
| 06:14.44 | Fisker- | sure |
| 06:14.56 | Fisker- | but it shouldn't be taken as the shining beacon of light |
| 06:14.56 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:16.36 | Fisker- | http://wowwebstats.com/dporn6312fhcy?s=12612-13118 |
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| 06:18.00 | NightHawkTheSane | if he dies, its better than we're doing. :P |
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| 08:09.49 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen Rabbit |
| 08:10.04 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@LSt-Amand-152-33-1-196.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 108d 20h 20m 49s ago, saying: 'Hi'. |
| 08:11.03 | nevcairiel | rabbit is vhaarr |
| 08:14.26 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen vhaarr |
| 08:14.27 | purl | vhaarr is currently on #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 3h 57m 36s, last said: 'and then, if I'm not mistaken, after coming free from the spell, the tank has to physically hit the target to get back on its target list'. |
| 08:15.00 | Mike-N-Go | Oh? Rabbit is his author name, and Vhaarr is his IRC name? |
| 08:16.45 | Mike-N-Go | ~vhaarr |
| 08:16.46 | purl | [vhaarr] the fastest updater in the west. |
| 08:16.46 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:18.37 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate vhaarr |
| 08:18.38 | purl | ^^ |
| 08:18.48 | Mike-N-Go | Yup, rabbit, alright. |
| 08:19.54 | Fisker- | ~emulate Fisker- |
| 08:19.55 | purl | methinks emulate fisker- is DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER |
| 08:19.58 | Fisker- | :( |
| 08:20.03 | Fisker- | ~Fisker- |
| 08:20.16 | Fisker- | ~literal Fisker- |
| 08:20.22 | Fisker- | ~literal emulate Fisker- |
| 08:20.22 | purl | "emulate fisker-" is "DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER" |
| 08:20.23 | Fisker- | :o |
| 08:20.26 | Fisker- | noes |
| 08:20.29 | Fisker- | tehy changed it |
| 08:20.50 | Mike-N-Go | ~factoid emulte Fisker- |
| 08:20.51 | purl | ACTION gives emulte Fisker- a cup of trinitrotoluene |
| 08:20.56 | Mike-N-Go | .. |
| 08:26.11 | Drundia | ~botsnack |
| 08:26.11 | purl | thanks, Drundia |
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| 09:27.14 | Industrial | whered my char go :| http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Xamth |
| 09:30.05 | Fisker- | in your mother |
| 09:57.04 | Mike-N-Go | Your char went to An error has occurred, duh. |
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| 10:56.48 | Crysli | Hiya. |
| 10:57.11 | Zyuu | hi |
| 10:58.40 | Crysli | QUestion: What events fire when you go on a taxi? Like, actually start flying. |
| 10:58.57 | Crysli | Oh, wait. I think I just found it. PLAYER_CONTROL_LOST seems like a good choice |
| 11:02.16 | cladhaire | why don't you use /dteventds |
| 11:02.19 | cladhaire | err /dtevents |
| 11:02.21 | art3mis | that prolly works for all stuns like ice trap fear concusion shot etc |
| 11:02.22 | cladhaire | and find out? |
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| 11:21.19 | art3mis | uptime(win2k): win(1w 2d 23h 56m 20s) serv(2d 3h 55m 25s) today(6d 7h 18m 39s) xirc(1w 2d 12h 17m 48s) best(3w 5d 8h 17m 27s) |
| 11:21.49 | Kaso | win 2000? thats old school |
| 11:21.51 | Fisker- | art3mis cannot stop me |
| 11:21.56 | Fisker- | ~uptime |
| 11:22.03 | Fisker- | Windows2003 Uptime: 2days 4hrs 34mins 7secs Best: 2wks 3days 13mins 58secs |
| 11:22.06 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 11:22.47 | Fisker- | moo: ram: 1359/4094.8MB (33.19%) [|||-------] |
| 11:23.17 | art3mis | its actually xp |
| 11:23.25 | art3mis | the script is old though |
| 11:23.28 | Fisker- | your script sucks then |
| 11:23.36 | Fisker- | fuck you and your script! |
| 11:23.55 | Kaso | win2k is NT5 and xp is 5.1 is it not? |
| 11:24.12 | art3mis | xp is an abhoration ;) |
| 11:24.17 | Kaso | and fisker's win2k3 is 5.2 (could also be xp64) |
| 11:24.24 | Fisker- | which it is |
| 11:25.06 | Fisker- | a shame they don't make SP3 for XP64 |
| 11:25.34 | Kaso | They're not going to at all?! |
| 11:25.59 | Fisker- | doesn't look like it |
| 11:26.19 | art3mis | When it comes to money, theres no real friend, not even Google: In response to a copyright complaint, Google has taken down an open-source project called CoreAVC-for-Linux it had hosted on its Web site. Google didnt share details, but said on the project site that it removed CoreAVC-for-Linux from its Google Code site after receiving a complaint under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). CoreAVC itself is proprietary software f |
| 11:26.45 | Kaso | art3mis, wait, google always share details |
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| 11:26.48 | ex1stenz | http://www.colectionarul.com/existenz1.html |
| 11:26.55 | Kaso | the upload their DCMA requests to chilling effects |
| 11:27.25 | art3mis | CoreAVC is a pay codec for h.264 for windows |
| 11:28.01 | Kaso | http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca512/notice.cgi?NoticeID=18513 |
| 11:28.03 | art3mis | they were idjits to name the project like that |
| 11:28.05 | Kaso | DCMA details |
| 11:29.48 | Kaso | They're claiming copyright, so that suggests there was direct code copying? Patents/trademarks arent covered by the dcma are they? |
| 11:29.59 | art3mis | they used the same name |
| 11:30.16 | art3mis | and made it be implied it was the same codec |
| 11:30.49 | art3mis | so i wouldnt be surprised if there as some reversing goig on there |
| 11:31.15 | art3mis | wheee time for me and my sore back to go to work ciao |
| 11:33.28 | Kaso | Fisker-, wait so, they're releasing SP3 for home product, but deciding not to service pack windows 2003 server. Surely enterprise server software should be service pack prioirty >.< |
| 11:34.18 | Kaso | Hell NT4 got like 7 service packs! 2k got 4! |
| 11:34.28 | Elkano | Kaso, but for enterprise software they need bugfree stable stuff... for normal end users... ;) |
| 11:34.38 | Kaso | ah, true! |
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| 11:35.54 | Atriace | is nevcairiel awake, perchance? |
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| 11:36.31 | Atriace | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 11:36.38 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowuidev (9h 19m 49s) #wowace (9h 19m 49s) #curseforge (9h 19m 49s). Has said a total of 11 messages. Is idling for 2h 11m 2s, last said: 'thats still because you're danish'. |
| 11:37.03 | Atriace | poor danes... tsk tsk. |
| 11:38.28 | Nom- | woot i finally learnt the secret methods of the AH |
| 11:38.35 | Nom- | tripled my gold in the first night! |
| 11:38.58 | Elkano | so you got 3 now? |
| 11:39.02 | dylanm | Buy low, sell high??? |
| 11:39.04 | Nom- | nah 15 :P |
| 11:39.14 | Nom- | i rolled a new level 1 for the purpose of AH testing |
| 11:39.16 | Nom- | with 5 gold |
| 11:39.20 | Nom- | and now she has 15 |
| 11:39.40 | Nom- | try again tonight for 50+ :P |
| 11:40.13 | Nom- | dylanm: Funnily enough, yes... the trouble is I never knew how to leverage Auctioneer to find the low items... now I do |
| 11:40.56 | Nom- | If my master plan falls into place, I should pay for my druids' epic mount in a couple of weeks ^_^ |
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| 11:49.19 | Nom- | best part is, if it doesn't work, i've only lost 5 gold :D |
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| 13:23.25 | wereHamster | So silent here. I'm bored, I need entertainment!! |
| 13:24.23 | Beladona | NO U! |
| 13:24.46 | Drundia | why don't you start it by entertaining us? |
| 13:26.02 | Zyuu | haha |
| 13:26.02 | wereHamster | o-/-< |
| 13:26.06 | wereHamster | o-\-< |
| 13:26.07 | Fisker- | shut up wereHamster |
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| 13:30.58 | Saint-N | wereHamster: is that you and fisker? |
| 13:31.20 | dylanm | :O |
| 13:32.23 | Saint-N | wresetling |
| 13:32.27 | Saint-N | to the death |
| 13:35.45 | Lopeppeppy | In Jello? |
| 13:35.49 | Lopeppeppy | I like Jello. |
| 13:38.39 | Drundia | what else do you like? |
| 13:40.10 | Lopeppeppy | In no particular order: Chocolate, lilacs, teddy bears, horror movies, zomie chicks, dogs who fetch, males who cuddle, and my shotgun. |
| 13:41.17 | wereHamster | It was supposed to be someone dancing, but Fisker- told me to shut up... |
| 13:41.52 | Lopeppeppy | I miss all the good stuff. |
| 13:42.12 | Drundia | ok, that's nice, let's continue our interview. what do you not like? |
| 13:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | Socks. The color purple. Dirty dishes. Hand grenades. The dark. |
| 13:44.22 | nevcairiel | You dont like hand grenades? But they go so well together with a shotgun |
| 13:44.35 | Lopeppeppy | You're a bad man, Lukian. |
| 13:45.04 | Lopeppeppy | nevcariel, I have a few drilled-out grenades, they're heavy and smell bad. |
| 13:45.19 | Saint-N | zombie chicks? |
| 13:45.33 | Lopeppeppy | If I am going to have something heavy that smells bad, it will be Lukian's cold dead decomposing sock-wearing corpse. :) |
| 13:45.37 | Lopeppeppy | Zombie chicks rule. |
| 13:45.40 | Saint-N | i guess that goes with the lilacs |
| 13:45.41 | Lukian | :D |
| 13:46.02 | Drundia | shotgun is more convenient than hand grenades if you ask me. |
| 13:46.10 | Lopeppeppy | Easier to resupply, too. |
| 13:46.13 | Lukian | Lopeppeppy, I'm going to buy you a grenade flower pot with lilacs in it next valentines |
| 13:46.40 | Lopeppeppy | Why thank you, Lukian. :P |
| 13:46.41 | Drundia | long time. he may change his preferences. |
| 13:46.52 | Lopeppeppy | < -- are distinctly female, make a note |
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| 13:47.06 | Drundia | ok her preferences |
| 13:47.20 | nevcairiel | Lopeppeppy: got a teddy bear for ya http://www.bradsdeals.com/images/teddy-bear-usb-drive.gif |
| 13:47.31 | Lopeppeppy | There are so few certified (and certifiable) females here, we keep track of one another. |
| 13:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent, nevcairiel! |
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| 13:47.47 | Drundia | that's awesome |
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| 13:48.18 | nevcairiel | i was googling for teddy bear + handgrenade though <.< |
| 13:49.13 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.buildabear.com/ -- they are supposed to be able to build anything you need! |
| 13:49.29 | Lopeppeppy | I could get a girlfriend to knit me a grenade to go with any of my current bears, I'm sure.... |
| 13:49.40 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:50.01 | Lopeppeppy | I do not knits. Very tragic. |
| 13:50.19 | Fisker- | i owned you nevcairiel |
| 13:50.25 | nevcairiel | You didnt |
| 13:50.29 | Drundia | what do you think about hand grenades in purple socks on dark dirty dish? |
| 13:50.30 | nevcairiel | And you never will |
| 13:50.59 | Lopeppeppy | tsk tsk. Grenades aren't good for dark. Use flash-bangs |
| 13:51.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:51.30 | Saint-N | peppy collects nitro snappers |
| 13:51.39 | Drundia | i just tried to make something you certainly don't like |
| 13:51.39 | Fisker- | lets go over by those bushes and have sex then nevcairiel |
| 13:52.00 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: nah, not with danish people |
| 13:52.10 | Drundia | ok boys (?), have fun |
| 13:52.46 | Fisker- | ya |
| 13:52.47 | Fisker- | yay |
| 13:52.52 | Fisker- | i'm a person |
| 13:52.54 | Fisker- | you flatter me nevcairiel |
| 13:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | You scare me, Fisker- |
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| 13:53.45 | Saint-N | Section 38 of the US visa form asks: Do you seek to enter the United States to engage in export control violations, subversive or terrorist activities, or any other unlawful purpose? Are you a member or representative of a terrorist organization as currently designated by the U.S. Secretary of State? Have you ever participated in persecutions directed by the Nazi government of Germany; or have you ever participated in genocide? |
| 13:53.45 | Saint-N | (Tick YES or NO)+ |
| 13:53.59 | Saint-N | http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/05/05/exclusive-tougher-security-checks-to-enter-us-as-laptops-and-mobile-phones-searched-89520-20405885/ |
| 13:54.20 | nevcairiel | I wonder if anyone tics yes there |
| 13:54.29 | Saint-N | i wodnered that too |
| 13:55.11 | Fisker- | well else i would be lying |
| 13:56.39 | Fisker- | haha |
| 13:56.48 | Fisker- | someone had child porn with them on the laptop |
| 13:56.58 | Fisker- | Business before pleasure, always leave your CP at home |
| 13:57.47 | Crysli | Imagine just having regular porn, and lots |
| 13:57.50 | Crysli | woops |
| 13:57.59 | Crysli | and lots of it, and then having your computer searched* |
| 13:58.37 | nevcairiel | If its reguler high quality porn.. |
| 13:58.49 | Crysli | Then you won't be getting it back? :P |
| 13:58.50 | Fisker- | well it could always be beastiality |
| 13:58.57 | Fisker- | that is illegal in some states? |
| 13:59.00 | Fisker- | Or only the act? |
| 13:59.24 | Saint-N | Don't know if you watched the Derby, but the horse Hillary wanted came in second, collapsed and was killed on the spot. |
| 13:59.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:59.43 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* Poor pony |
| 13:59.44 | nevcairiel | poor Horsy |
| 13:59.51 | Saint-N | metaphorically ironic |
| 13:59.56 | Saint-N | to broke its leg REALLY bad |
| 13:59.57 | Fisker- | fucking awesome |
| 14:00.04 | Saint-N | bone sticking thrpough skin n stuff |
| 14:00.16 | Crysli | *bad pun incoming* Did they beat it afterwards? |
| 14:00.16 | Drundia | you are talking about so foul things..... |
| 14:00.17 | Saint-N | i kind of wish we did it with people mind you |
| 14:00.37 | Drundia | why don't you go sleep some more? |
| 14:02.13 | Drundia | :O |
| 14:02.19 | Drundia | you actually went to sleep some more? |
| 14:02.47 | charon | Saint-N: that article sounds a lot like you should shred(1) your harddisk, go to the US, borrow your favourite distro's installation CD for an hour, then rsync your work from your favourite Free Country(tm) |
| 14:02.54 | Saint-N | Drundia: it didnt say if it was republican or democrat |
| 14:03.11 | Saint-N | charon: live cd downloads are on the rise ;) |
| 14:03.19 | charon | or that |
| 14:03.23 | Saint-N | quick buy linode stock! |
| 14:05.03 | Crysli | Can anyone tell me when UNIT_FLAGS fires? |
| 14:05.55 | Drundia | try to see what does blizzard interface code do with it |
| 14:06.32 | Crysli | I will, but thought I'd ask here first. :) |
| 14:08.33 | Industrial | Anyone run wow on linux? How do I get it running on another display? |
| 14:09.01 | Polleke | try DISPLAY=:1 |
| 14:09.13 | Industrial | DISPLAY1=$DISPLAY;DISPLAY=:1.0; |
| 14:09.15 | Industrial | heh just typing it in |
| 14:09.15 | Saint-N | load sk1llz.dll |
| 14:09.16 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:09.24 | Saint-N | i hear that helps ;) |
| 14:09.35 | Saint-N | or in linux sk1llz.so |
| 14:09.47 | Industrial | must.. not.. make.. yourmomjoke... |
| 14:10.02 | Saint-N | you can do it industrial! |
| 14:10.09 | Industrial | ill load your mom |
| 14:10.12 | Industrial | ;o |
| 14:10.16 | Saint-N | wow |
| 14:10.17 | nevcairiel | indy fails :( |
| 14:10.23 | Saint-N | you should have resisted a bit harder |
| 14:10.32 | Industrial | temptation too big :( |
| 14:11.05 | Drundia | omg, wow ui devs have very interesting topics lately |
| 14:11.18 | Drundia | from some porn to talks about parents |
| 14:11.19 | Saint-N | Industrial: thats what she said |
| 14:12.34 | Lopeppeppy | Socks. |
| 14:12.37 | Lopeppeppy | We talk about socks a lot too. |
| 14:12.55 | nevcairiel | Didnt we establish earlier that socks suck? |
| 14:12.59 | Crysli | This socks. |
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| 14:15.12 | Lukian | Industrial, run it windowed :p |
| 14:15.54 | Industrial | I'm running the dwm windowmanager and running ti windowed or fullscreen it still puts its top bar on top, and I dont want that :P |
| 14:15.58 | Industrial | DISPLAY1=$DISPLAY;DISPLAY=:1;X :1&wine WoW.exe;DISPLAY=$DISPLAY1 |
| 14:16.01 | Industrial | thats not working :\ |
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| 14:16.33 | Lukian | top bar? |
| 14:16.49 | Lukian | oh right, you are using a window manager that doesn't let you hide window decorations? :p |
| 14:17.07 | Industrial | its a tiling windowmanager |
| 14:17.19 | Industrial | http://www.suckless.org/wiki/dwm |
| 14:17.39 | Industrial | its really cool and all cept that it doesnt run wow how I like :\ |
| 14:19.07 | charon | Industrial: you likely need to grab the xauth credentials of :1 somehow |
| 14:19.34 | Polleke | Industrial, that last DISPLAY should be before the wine command I think |
| 14:19.53 | charon | also, doing DISPLAY=:1 doesn't help, you either need to export it or make it part of the wine command as Polleke says |
| 14:19.56 | Saint-N | thats kind of neat |
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| 14:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Anyone have a good song for when you want to make slippers out of your beloved house cat? |
| 14:27.04 | Saint-N | OCALA, Fla. -- A 15-year-old Central Florida middle school student was arrested on charges of high-fiving teachers and students with tacks hidden between his fingers. |
| 14:27.17 | Saint-N | Can't bring me down - Suicidal Tendencies |
| 14:27.19 | Lopeppeppy | Nice. |
| 14:27.25 | Saint-N | Fucking Hostile - Pantera |
| 14:27.35 | Saint-N | Love myself today - Bif Naked |
| 14:27.42 | Saint-N | Angel of Death - Slayer |
| 14:27.47 | Saint-N | all good songs ;) |
| 14:27.53 | Crysli | Lopeppeppy: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KeCyyhmHICU |
| 14:27.56 | Saint-N | or Word Up - Korn |
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| 14:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | Crysli wins! |
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| 14:31.41 | Saint-N | heh stephen lynch rocks |
| 14:34.38 | Crysli | I like" Special Olympics". |
| 14:35.19 | Saint-N | Special Ed is good too |
| 14:35.23 | Saint-N | and D&D |
| 14:35.29 | Saint-N | and Doctor Stephen |
| 14:35.33 | Saint-N | and Superhero |
| 14:35.34 | Saint-N | heh |
| 14:35.35 | Crysli | D&D? |
| 14:35.37 | Saint-N | yeah |
| 14:35.42 | Saint-N | go listen to it |
| 14:35.50 | Saint-N | its been my bringtone since gygax died ;) |
| 14:35.53 | Saint-N | ringtone |
| 14:35.56 | Crysli | Yeah, don't think I've heard that one. |
| 14:37.14 | Crysli | Oh god. The comments on the youtube vid are wonderfully awful. <3 |
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| 14:38.47 | Crysli | "thats not D&D, the moron probably never even played it. its not a 12 sided dice, its a D20. and only in the rarest cases would goblins ever be on your side. " |
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| 14:39.15 | ralfWORK | oh lord |
| 14:40.53 | Saint-N | heh |
| 14:40.59 | Saint-N | feel his nerdy wrath |
| 14:41.27 | ralfWORK | nor has this guy! http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-lol-magic-cards.jpg |
| 14:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | Meow. |
| 14:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | I made my first lol today. *hangs head in shame* |
| 14:42.33 | SunTiger | Lopeppeppy, DIE |
| 14:42.42 | ralfWORK | Lopeppeppy: we did ours months ago |
| 14:42.59 | Lopeppeppy | There's a Facebook application. I spend so much work time on Facebook that I decided to spend some quality bad-girl time too. |
| 14:43.08 | ralfWORK | hahahaha |
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| 14:43.53 | ralfWORK | OH GOD WHY IS THIS TRAC SO GODDAMN SLOW |
| 14:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | It hates you. |
| 14:44.23 | SunTiger | trac is always slow |
| 14:44.39 | ralfWORK | yea, but it's extra slow today |
| 14:44.41 | ralfWORK | QQ |
| 14:45.02 | Lopeppeppy | Happy damn skippy Monday, dude. |
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| 14:53.17 | zenzelezz | I dislike tracs |
| 14:54.35 | ralfWORK | I have not found a better product |
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| 14:57.51 | Saint-N | But just how big is it, really? It will likely surpass Halo 3s (MSFT) one-week total of $300 million in sales. And it may ring up $450 million in sales this year, predicts Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter. |
| 14:57.58 | Saint-N | GTA4 sales |
| 14:58.09 | zenzelezz | ralfWORK: same, but I still hate it :) |
| 14:58.18 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: agreed :) |
| 14:58.30 | Saint-N | Compare GTA IV's take to the international box office receipts for blockbuster movies. If GTA was a movie, it would be 77th on boxofficemojo.com's list. Just behind "Oceans Eleven" and just ahead of "Pearl Harbor." And three slots behind "National Treasure: Book Of Secrets" which came out last winter and apparently grossed $456 million, even though we don't know a living soul who's seen it. |
| 14:58.52 | ralfWORK | hah |
| 14:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen it.... |
| 14:59.43 | ralfWORK | *gasp* |
| 15:00.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. It was even a date-movie. |
| 15:00.14 | ralfWORK | *gasp* *gasp* |
| 15:00.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a geek. And I love it. |
| 15:05.14 | zenzelezz | for some reason Cola tastes funny after ice cream |
| 15:05.28 | Gngsk | that's why you have them together |
| 15:05.30 | Lopeppeppy | I thought it would be more vice-versa-ish |
| 15:05.56 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: might be true, but I didn't want to wait with the ice cream |
| 15:06.41 | Lopeppeppy | Always answer "yes" to either/or questions, it saves you some hassle. |
| 15:07.17 | zenzelezz | it was never a question, I just chose to save the Cola for after |
| 15:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | After is so far away. Now is here. |
| 15:09.48 | Saint-N | http://youtube.com/watch?v=r0kG83hxNyY |
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| 15:11.44 | Zyuu | http://www.wowdb.com/latestAdditions.aspx new m'uru items |
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| 15:16.10 | Kirkburn | Anyone know if there's maintenance tomorrow? |
| 15:16.59 | Kirkburn | Just want to make sure WoWWiki isn't down during maintenance :P |
| 15:19.21 | Zyuu | No idea honestly |
| 15:20.29 | nevcairiel | I hope there is |
| 15:20.29 | nevcairiel | need patch |
| 15:20.29 | nevcairiel | but probably not happening :( |
| 15:25.01 | Saint-N | hahaha |
| 15:25.08 | Saint-N | Upcomgin movei tag line for Thor |
| 15:25.14 | Saint-N | "Your God dies Nailed to a Cross, and my God carries a Hammer. Just sayin'..." |
| 15:25.54 | Crysli | Lol |
| 15:26.03 | Saint-N | that would be the best tag line evah |
| 15:26.26 | ralfWORK | ahahahahaah |
| 15:30.20 | Saint-N | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24458901/ |
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| 15:42.36 | Valaron|Work | I get my new 47" LCD HDTV today. |
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| 15:44.41 | Saint-N | what kind? |
| 15:44.47 | Saint-N | ghetto or a sony? |
| 15:44.51 | ralfWORK | hahahahaha |
| 15:44.55 | ralfWORK | I like the way you think :) |
| 15:45.10 | Saint-N | i love my bravia |
| 15:45.25 | Saint-N | if it had a cardslot for cablecard it wold be radder |
| 15:45.35 | Saint-N | but its still the pertiest ive seen in a long while |
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| 16:17.00 | Valaron|Work | My new TV is Olevia. |
| 16:17.11 | Lukian | wut? |
| 16:17.52 | Valaron|Work | Answering a question from 30 mins ago. :) |
| 16:18.21 | Kaso | heh i love high latency conversations |
| 16:19.21 | nevcairiel | real-life lags owns us all :) |
| 16:19.42 | kergoth | hmm, anyone know of a logging/debugging library, preferably with debuglevels, the ability to toggle it, and the ability to pull up a seperate log window rather than spamming chat? |
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| 16:20.31 | Valaron|Work | It's the Olevia 747i |
| 16:20.59 | Valaron|Work | My First HDTV. |
| 16:21.07 | Valaron|Work | It's like Fisher Price! |
| 16:22.32 | Valaron|Work | Now to wait for the Panasonic DMP-BD50 Blu-Ray player. |
| 16:24.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 16:24.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Visual Studio is *nice* for XML |
| 16:24.41 | ScytheBlade1 | This kinda makes me cry |
| 16:24.51 | Valaron|Work | So.. I was at BestBuy on Saturday, while looking for a stand for my new TV. I was also looking at their Blu-Ray players. Nick, the sales rep, kept hinting that I should get the PS3. |
| 16:25.19 | Valaron|Work | The 40Gb one |
| 16:26.02 | Drundia | i sometimes check time and don't comment if it's more than 1 hour old |
| 16:26.10 | Drundia | but i think it doesn't happen that much in general.... |
| 16:26.22 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: I try not to think of Visual Studo as a MS product... It really is the best damned IDE out there... |
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| 16:27.07 | ScytheBlade1 | cog|work: I'm just saddened that there isn't a linux equal for their XML editing part. The most I use VS for is building a LAMP stack on windows (less the linux ;)), and it's nice for that |
| 16:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | But I don't really *use* it for anything other than the compiler... until now |
| 16:27.53 | cncfanatics | yo all |
| 16:27.54 | Drundia | cog, just a question, how much did microsoft pay you? :) |
| 16:28.02 | Valaron|Work | :P |
| 16:28.17 | cog|work | Drundia: does getting $36 from the california antitrust settlement count? |
| 16:28.27 | Drundia | haha yes :) |
| 16:28.29 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, pizza and a movie time! |
| 16:28.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol win @ $36 |
| 16:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Anyone know how I make the intellisense read UI.xsd? I've reconfigured the schemaLocation, but... still nothing |
| 16:31.18 | Kaso | Oh wow, i never knew anyone who got money from that cog|work |
| 16:31.50 | Lopeppeppy | You actually still really don't. <.< |
| 16:31.50 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:31.50 | cog|work | hehe |
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| 16:34.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh crap this is nice |
| 16:35.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Why does VS have to be so nice :( |
| 16:35.23 | Lopeppeppy | To torment you, my precious. |
| 16:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | IT'S WORKING |
| 16:35.34 | Lopeppeppy | Go get the One Ring in your spare time, okay? |
| 16:36.35 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: warning: if you value disliking VS, don't ever do any C# programming... |
| 16:36.55 | cog|work | VS' C# support is ... > drool-worthy |
| 16:37.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, you'd hope so, considering that is is their flagship IDE and flagship language ;) |
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| 16:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | fwiw, I may be a linux nut on my desktop, laptop, embedded router, handheld, server, uhh you get the idea ;) |
| 16:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | But I really do just love MS Server + VS + windows in the hands of someone who has a clue in their head |
| 16:39.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, heh, nice book cog|work ;) |
| 16:40.00 | cog|work | ScytheBlade1: well, blame cladhaire if you're liking the XML stuff ;) |
| 16:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I had the check the channel for Shirik before going on |
| 16:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | ... let's see what happens with it ;) |
| 16:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm glad this has the XML in it, most all of the lua stuff I already know |
| 16:41.27 | ScytheBlade1 | But seeing and knowing the XML frames will help with seeing how the lua frames piece together (in terms of actually creating a usable UI) |
| 16:42.31 | cncfanatics | I find XML frame creation to be WAY harder then lua frame creation |
| 16:43.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah. It's quite a bit more time consuming. Nothing quite like CreateFrame() |
| 16:43.22 | cncfanatics | idd |
| 16:43.28 | cncfanatics | <3 dynamic frame creation |
| 16:43.52 | nevcairiel | the frame creation syntax is much more intuitive though, imho |
| 16:43.57 | ScytheBlade1 | But I'm looking for the details of how to really work with frames in general and make an addon that has more than ChatFrame1:AddMessage() communication ;) |
| 16:44.00 | Kaso | i do love luaframes, however it can get somewhat confusing when you get really complex frame setups, whereas hirarchical frames is easier to understand |
| 16:44.01 | nevcairiel | (in XML) |
| 16:44.17 | cncfanatics | I can read lua frame creation code and understand it |
| 16:44.24 | cncfanatics | but I can't do that for XML code, guess its just me |
| 16:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | yey wow web stats is entirely dead |
| 16:45.19 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 16:45.21 | nevcairiel | for ever? |
| 16:45.25 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, no |
| 16:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | But their home page is throwing a 503 |
| 16:45.40 | ScytheBlade1 | And I haven't been able to upload this log since some time last night |
| 16:45.51 | nevcairiel | its been completly dead all of today |
| 16:45.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 16:45.58 | nevcairiel | and log uploading was broken for at least a week |
| 16:46.16 | nevcairiel | always getting that invalid id thing |
| 16:46.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a few 504s actually while trying to upload a log |
| 16:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Getting a 504 is pretty telling of what is going on |
| 16:47.08 | nevcairiel | maybe they are upgrading their servers for some new software that doesnt break on upload :P |
| 16:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Heck of an upgrade! |
| 16:47.24 | cncfanatics | what does a 504 actualy mean ? :p |
| 16:47.24 | nevcairiel | From what i understand, there is some half-impressive cluster behind that page |
| 16:47.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Gateway timeout expired |
| 16:47.41 | nevcairiel | yeah i got those today as well |
| 16:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It means that they're doing a caching proxy between their public side and their actual web servers |
| 16:47.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Which means that their actual web servers have died a horrific death |
| 16:48.08 | nevcairiel | and the proxy didnt know yet :p |
| 16:48.25 | nevcairiel | now we're at 503, and the proxy knows that all his friends are dead |
| 16:49.22 | Drundia | If you have to complex frames make your tree in form of intialization functions or divide it in blocks, indent it and everything |
| 16:49.56 | Drundia | I somehow think it's even easier to understand than equivalent XML |
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| 16:52.43 | ScytheBlade1 | "Did you guys do just bt or azgalor too? I had school stuff. :(" |
| 16:52.47 | ScytheBlade1 | "Mostly we just wiped on trash." |
| 16:57.46 | cncfanatics | cool |
| 16:57.59 | cncfanatics | I just found out that a table can have hash indexes and still be used with tinsert & tremove |
| 16:58.26 | nevcairiel | sure, hybrid tables |
| 16:59.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I seriously need a good XML editor for linux |
| 17:00.00 | cncfanatics | you could always make one ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:00.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that'd take a _lot_ of effort |
| 17:01.37 | foxlit | What defines a good XML editor? |
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| 17:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | In this case |
| 17:02.19 | foxlit | Notepad/textmate/pine/vi seem to all do the trick; unless you need actual syntax help and validation (why do you insist on writing bad code, you?!) |
| 17:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | One with sane autoindentation, XSD validation, and some degree of syntax highlighting |
| 17:02.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I want the validation ;) |
| 17:03.11 | Saint-N | http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/late-late-show-host-craig-ferguson-dishes-at-white-house-correspondents-dinner/ |
| 17:03.17 | Drundia | if you see wow not loading it perhaps you have errors.... |
| 17:03.21 | foxlit | Was watching someone else write java code in eclipse earlier today |
| 17:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: ouch |
| 17:04.00 | foxlit | It's only painful if you type slowly enough to let eclipse attempt to help you |
| 17:04.35 | foxlit | [reliance on wizards/live compiler warnings seemed fatal there] |
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| 17:34.25 | Saint-N | oo transmeta earnings today |
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| 17:50.25 | Saint-N | talk darn you talk! |
| 17:50.37 | Saint-N | i command you to liiiiiiivvvvve! |
| 17:50.45 | zenzelezz | I fetch my wizards robe and hat |
| 17:50.48 | cog|work | ~lart3mis |
| 17:50.49 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 17:50.58 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: i read that as felch |
| 17:51.21 | cncfanatics | foxlit: it'd be less painful if eclipse's autocomplete was better designed |
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| 18:19.04 | hi11ie | what function do you use to get your char's name? |
| 18:19.35 | Snago | hi11ie: UnitName("player") |
| 18:24.18 | Kaso | Watching the prequel then the orginal star wars film really makes the sabre fights in the orginals look crap |
| 18:25.06 | Kaso | in the orginals they just waves swords about a bit and look at each other menicingly, in the prequels they bloodly flying all over the place in a wirlwind of colour |
| 18:31.26 | zenzelezz | I'll take unimpressive light sabers of unimpressive stories any day |
| 18:32.12 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/014550.html |
| 18:32.35 | cncfanatics | who doesn't love stupid parents anoying you because they feel like not letting you on your computer ? |
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| 18:43.57 | hi11ie | can you do recursive function calls in lua? |
| 18:44.35 | MentalPower | yes |
| 18:44.39 | MentalPower | you can do one better too |
| 18:44.43 | MentalPower | tail calls |
| 18:44.54 | hi11ie | tail calls? |
| 18:45.03 | MentalPower | where you don't use the Lua stack, so you can do infinite recursion |
| 18:45.07 | MentalPower | its covered in PiL |
| 18:45.16 | hi11ie | ok |
| 18:45.22 | hi11ie | i have both pil and the wow programming book now |
| 18:45.34 | MentalPower | tail calls are covered in both |
| 18:48.57 | dylanm | It's when you do return f(...). It doesn't seem mind-blowing but it's nice. |
| 18:57.00 | Kaso | lua>function f(hi) return f(hi) end f("hi") |
| 18:57.05 | lua_bot | Kaso: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 18:57.08 | Kaso | hehe! |
| 18:57.18 | Kaso | if that wasnt tail call i'd have stack overflowed |
| 18:57.46 | Kaso | lua>function f(hi) f(hi) return end f("hi") |
| 18:57.46 | lua_bot | Kaso: luabot:1: stack overflow |
| 18:58.25 | Kaso | stack overflowed? |
| 18:58.29 | Kaso | overflew? |
| 18:58.44 | Lopeppeppy | The cuckoo's nest? |
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| 19:06.30 | Saint-N | kaso: pervert |
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| 19:06.50 | Saint-N | rabies! |
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| 19:12.23 | Saint-N | hey look everyone its kirkburn |
| 19:12.40 | Kirkburn | Hullo thar |
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| 19:15.41 | Drundia | so tail calls are generally good? |
| 19:16.44 | Saint-N | always |
| 19:16.49 | MentalPower | not always |
| 19:16.52 | Saint-N | in some places they're called booty calls |
| 19:17.02 | MentalPower | sigh... |
| 19:17.06 | MentalPower | ~lart Saint-N |
| 19:17.06 | purl | squishes Saint-N like a bug |
| 19:17.12 | MentalPower | ~botsnack |
| 19:17.12 | purl | MentalPower: :) |
| 19:17.19 | Drundia | booty calls? |
| 19:17.24 | Drundia | tell me more please |
| 19:17.46 | MentalPower | anyways, tail calls are good except if you want debug info |
| 19:18.29 | Drundia | so we can't see what function did tail call? |
| 19:19.52 | Drundia | uhm, that's what manual says on it, so now i know answer |
| 19:20.12 | MentalPower | correct |
| 19:20.24 | MentalPower | you only get a <tail call?> entry in the stack trace |
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| 19:43.03 | Unregistered | I am wondering how to change the search key that you set during install |
| 19:44.11 | Cairenn | morning Kaelten, feeling any better today? |
| 19:44.28 | Kaelten | yep |
| 19:44.36 | Unregistered | Didnt read Quite right and now have "Q" (lowercase) and everytime I hit that letter a search window pops up |
| 19:44.37 | Cairenn | good! |
| 19:45.21 | Cairenn | Unregistered: sorry, not sure - you're talking about something having to do with Cosmos, correct? |
| 19:45.32 | Kaelten | also finally in my new place. |
| 19:45.35 | Kaelten | which is very cool |
| 19:45.48 | Moi | ya ..ok ty |
| 19:46.09 | Cairenn | YAY on new place, much goodness! "And now we do the dance of happy happy joy joy!" |
| 19:47.12 | Drundia | for what did he thank and who? |
| 19:47.25 | Cairenn | me for saying I'm not sure, I guess |
| 19:47.39 | Cairenn | I was about to ping KarlKFI, but no point |
| 19:48.40 | Drundia | interesting, one of many says "not sure" and he's like "kthxbai" |
| 19:49.13 | Cairenn | yeah, I know, amused me too |
| 19:49.52 | Saint-N | happy happy joy joy happy happy joy happy happy happy happy joy joy joooooooooooooooooyyyyyyyy |
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| 20:43.39 | nevcairiel | I wonder how long WWS can be broken until people start demanding refunds of their paid accounts =P |
| 20:43.55 | Saint-N | wws? |
| 20:44.05 | Saint-N | wow world server? |
| 20:44.12 | nevcairiel | http://wowwebstats.com/ |
| 20:44.28 | nevcairiel | report uploads are broken for atleast a week now |
| 20:44.42 | Saint-N | they charge for that crap? |
| 20:44.51 | nevcairiel | no |
| 20:45.03 | Saint-N | WoW sure is full of monkies |
| 20:45.12 | nevcairiel | but you can buy a premium account for faster access and longer hosting |
| 20:45.31 | nevcairiel | well their servers probably eat alot of bandwidth and performance |
| 20:45.53 | Saint-N | heh prolly |
| 20:46.16 | Saint-N | they should zend it sell it for guild sites to host thier own ;) |
| 20:46.28 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.29 | Matrix110| | no monies then! |
| 20:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | A free option at that |
| 20:46.39 | ralfWORK | I can't imagine that the reports are particularly easy to process |
| 20:46.41 | nevcairiel | the self-host reports sucked, though |
| 20:46.50 | ralfWORK | and it's Java not php :P |
| 20:46.52 | Saint-N | Matrix110|: still monies as it would backcheck to the main site for a valid serial |
| 20:47.09 | Matrix110| | ah |
| 20:47.21 | Saint-N | so you can "rent" it out for X monthes |
| 20:47.22 | ralfWORK | the fact that it's java would actually make that feasible |
| 20:47.55 | ralfWORK | but no one would do it |
| 20:48.10 | Saint-N | quite a few guilds would |
| 20:48.28 | Saint-N | personally i like having crap on my own servers instead of remote hosted |
| 20:48.32 | ralfWORK | a very, very small set of ppl playing wow actually know how to setup a webserver |
| 20:48.32 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 20:48.37 | Saint-N | and im sure a fair amount of others do as well |
| 20:48.50 | ralfWORK | and a smaller set of those people would know how to setup tomcat and know how to get this webapp working |
| 20:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I ran the self hosted for several months |
| 20:48.55 | Saint-N | ralfWORK: thats why they set it up for thier guild ;) |
| 20:49.12 | ralfWORK | self hosted was shit |
| 20:49.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: the self hosted generated HTML from the java desktop app |
| 20:49.17 | ralfWORK | you mean the HTML reports? |
| 20:49.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 20:49.23 | ralfWORK | yea those sucked |
| 20:49.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really |
| 20:49.31 | ScytheBlade1 | They told you what you needed to know |
| 20:49.36 | ralfWORK | not me :P |
| 20:49.37 | ScytheBlade1 | The only thing that sucked about them was generating them |
| 20:50.13 | ralfWORK | iirc didn't have the combat log tool |
| 20:50.18 | MentalPower | batrick: ping! |
| 20:50.24 | ScytheBlade1 | ... you also have a combatlog |
| 20:50.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Like, you know, a file on a computer |
| 20:50.38 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: yea, I could grep it all day long. that's not the point |
| 20:50.47 | ralfWORK | you said "they give you everything you need" |
| 20:50.51 | ralfWORK | when in fact it does not :P |
| 20:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 20:51.12 | ScytheBlade1 | The entire point of WWS is so that you don't have to read the log manually :P |
| 20:51.15 | ralfWORK | it made it easy to browse the combat log |
| 20:51.15 | batrick | MentalPower: pong |
| 20:51.41 | Saint-N | ralfWORK: see now consider if they gave thewhole thing out with backcheck verification |
| 20:51.50 | Saint-N | a simple drop on the site and go package as it were |
| 20:51.58 | Saint-N | a lot of guild sites would use it |
| 20:52.02 | ralfWORK | I think it also didn't do like number of spells casted etc |
| 20:52.08 | Saint-N | it would remove a fair amount of sapce and bw needs from wws |
| 20:52.14 | ScytheBlade1 | It did do that |
| 20:52.14 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: hmm. I guess if those guild sites sold it, it might work. |
| 20:52.19 | Saint-N | and they could totally cash in on renting it |
| 20:52.38 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: I seem to think when I was trying to look up my DOT uptime, the HTML reports wouldnt' give me what I needed |
| 20:52.52 | ralfWORK | might be mistaken though |
| 20:57.21 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd just be happy if they started working... soon |
| 20:57.27 | ralfWORK | that'd be nice! |
| 20:57.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got an officer account to a paid account |
| 20:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Nice ~60MB log sitting here |
| 20:57.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ... waiting... |
| 20:58.14 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 20:59.01 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.04 | Saint-N | good god oil is 120.13 a barrel |
| 20:59.21 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.40 | ScytheBlade1 | This log has three shots at Gorefiend, and I'm much more interested in that |
| 21:00.12 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: how many rogues and what groups were they in? |
| 21:00.18 | ralfWORK | and yea, wtf 700 DPS |
| 21:00.23 | ScytheBlade1 | 3, in a group with a feral druid and DPS warrior |
| 21:00.24 | nevcairiel | 1200 is still very low |
| 21:00.29 | nevcairiel | our spriests do 1200 |
| 21:00.33 | nevcairiel | rogues 1800 upwards |
| 21:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | It's stupidly low |
| 21:00.43 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: ouch. yea that's bullshit |
| 21:00.54 | Saint-N | home time! |
| 21:00.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Our top end rogue is capable of 1688 DPS according to some spreadsheets run by a friend of mine |
| 21:01.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Undergeared? A bit |
| 21:01.09 | nevcairiel | thats still pretty low, gear? weapons? |
| 21:01.18 | ScytheBlade1 | But 1200-1300 is still a problem |
| 21:01.19 | ralfWORK | those are extremely ideallistic, imo |
| 21:01.23 | ScytheBlade1 | They are |
| 21:01.30 | ralfWORK | but yes, |
| 21:01.45 | ralfWORK | I can do more than them in my T4 gear on my spriest :P |
| 21:01.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Our top lock is over 2k |
| 21:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a bit behind him if I manage my cooldowns properly |
| 21:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | That's also why the melee didn't get the shaman until someone whined and we tried it out |
| 21:03.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Because a shaman is largely wasted on them |
| 21:03.11 | ralfWORK | agreed |
| 21:03.13 | nevcairiel | we have loads of new players this week, and freakin WWS wont let us get stats <.< |
| 21:03.57 | ScytheBlade1 | We used to have a melee group, and then a caster group with the spriest + ele shaman |
| 21:04.09 | ScytheBlade1 | And then a group of casters with no group synergy |
| 21:04.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That took some changing, but now there are two properly setup caster groups |
| 21:04.57 | nevcairiel | we usually have spriest + ele schaman + 3 mages, and warlocks + heal schaman |
| 21:05.15 | nevcairiel | and a melee group with rogues, melee schaman, and whatever else we bring in melee :P |
| 21:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | We've got a spriest and one ele shaman |
| 21:05.29 | ScytheBlade1 | And 2093840 locks and 20932 mages |
| 21:05.40 | ralfWORK | wow! that's alot! |
| 21:06.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, and not nearly enough caster support :P |
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| 21:48.46 | Shirik | evening all |
| 21:48.59 | cog|work | NO U! |
| 21:49.31 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:49.40 | Gilial | I think he made his point. |
| 21:53.40 | zenzelezz | wow, somehow I managed to really freeze Windows... couldn't even bring up the task manager |
| 21:54.07 | Gilial | As long as IRC works. >> |
| 21:54.15 | zenzelezz | IRC is on a different computer |
| 21:54.53 | kergoth | anyone know when during the ui loading process the chat cache is loaded? |
| 21:55.01 | zenzelezz | I have no idea how, but it looks almost like something messed up the message queues, since every single process is giving the "Ending program... please wait" dialog |
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| 21:57.44 | Gilial | Question -- Anyone know how to work with model widgetthingamajigs? Can't seem to get them to texture properly... |
| 21:57.55 | Maul|TrinityUI | kergoth: not sure, but watch for the event UPDATE_CHAT_COLOR, when that starts firing, the chat cache is loaded |
| 21:58.09 | kergoth | ah, okay |
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| 22:09.33 | Xuerian | Gilial: Use the DressUpModel (or it's ancestor) frame |
| 22:09.39 | Xuerian | Gilial: They're much easier to manipulate |
| 22:10.17 | Xuerian | Gilial: http://www.gameguidesonline.com/guides/articles/ggoarticleoctober05_02.asp tells you how to use it |
| 22:17.30 | Gilial | @Xuerian: Wooh -- Thanks! |
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| 22:21.34 | bleeter | 2.4.2 tonight? Just that apparently PTR's ending, and no Alert page yet, thoguht I'd ask around just so I feel better about my own assumption ;) |
| 22:21.56 | Zootfizzle | ~8ball |
| 22:21.56 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: My reply is no |
| 22:22.36 | hi11ie | does anyone know a page on wowwiki that describes how to change the colors of chat msgs inside the msg itself (ie. to highlight certain words) and stuff like tabs (if possible?) i tried %t \t, i can't find anything in the API about this or colors.. i know about sending the rgb arguments to AddMessage |
| 22:22.59 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: :P ... you could've just said 'not sure, but 2.4.2 will be soon(tm)' :P |
| 22:23.29 | Xuerian | That would've taken more typing >_> |
| 22:23.36 | bleeter | true |
| 22:23.57 | Zootfizzle | People have gotten upset in the past when I've tried to be diplomatic, we're gonna go with straightforward or nothing at all Zootfizzle =P |
| 22:24.33 | nevcairiel | the result is the same, isnt it? =P |
| 22:25.04 | Zootfizzle | One requires me typing less. |
| 22:25.12 | Zootfizzle | ;) |
| 22:25.18 | nevcairiel | and purl gets some 8ball action |
| 22:25.27 | bleeter | oh, hey, reminds me... ;) was anyone aware that, apart from the intended 'Tendency to cause trouble', Kisirani means 'Failure'? |
| 22:25.28 | Xuerian | Or the 8ball gets some purl action. |
| 22:25.57 | bleeter | *also means |
| 22:26.24 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: you treat us too well :P |
| 22:27.37 | MentalPower | hi11ie: search wowwiki for escape code sequences |
| 22:27.56 | bleeter | ok, serious question time. This has popped up on CSF... some very rare UI issue where hunter autoshot stops working. I had put it down to addons, but folks in the CSF thread have said it happens without them. Anyone seen this? |
| 22:28.24 | bleeter | (I've seen it, probably once, in the past 6 months) |
| 22:37.09 | Polarina | Damn this, not being able to send strings containing a NULL character through the addon channel, requires me to tweak my serialiser (and that doesn't come with a stack of headache). :( |
| 22:38.06 | Shirik | are you sure you can't? |
| 22:38.14 | Shirik | I thought someone was before, maybe I'm making it up |
| 22:38.15 | Polarina | Shirik: I'm sure I can't. |
| 22:38.35 | Cide | sucks to be you, works fine for me |
| 22:38.36 | Cide | night |
| 22:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | Night Cide. |
| 22:39.14 | nevcairiel | Shirik: \0 is the only char you cannot send through addon channels |
| 22:40.08 | art3mis | where's cidan been? |
| 22:41.46 | Shirik | good question |
| 22:41.49 | Shirik | haven't seen him around |
| 22:42.14 | nevcairiel | i think he was in here last week or so.. |
| 22:42.15 | nevcairiel | ~seen cidan |
| 22:42.18 | purl | cidan <n=aj@conspiracy/developer/Cidan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 30d 16h 29m 10s ago, saying: 'oh there he is'. |
| 22:42.21 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:42.25 | nevcairiel | maybe not |
| 22:42.26 | Shirik | he was "here" last week |
| 22:42.30 | nevcairiel | or didnt talk |
| 22:42.39 | Shirik | but he wasn't /here/ last week |
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| 22:46.57 | Lopeppeppy | I would swear I've seen Cidan more recently than a month ago, I was thinking, "Ah, there's Cidan'" |
| 22:47.06 | Drundia | Oh, people, can you be nice, and first politely ask Zoot if he's even willing to talk to you about this stuff now. He doesn't come here to pick more suggestions because he has enough things to do as it is. |
| 22:47.09 | nevcairiel | same here |
| 22:47.13 | nevcairiel | but he probably didnt talk |
| 22:47.23 | nevcairiel | so purl didnt notice |
| 22:47.29 | Drundia | Because I again see about NULLs in addon channels... |
| 22:47.32 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, yeah, Purl is selective that way. |
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| 22:53.10 | foxlit | ~logs |
| 22:53.11 | purl | i guess logs is apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
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| 22:56.44 | Shirik | sigh |
| 22:56.56 | Shirik | wtb ability to pipe into mklink |
| 22:56.59 | Shirik | stupid windows |
| 23:01.01 | art3mis | Drundia: if zoot hasnt figured out he can tell us to just piss off without us thinking he's a jerk he needs to idle on irc A LOT more |
| 23:01.34 | art3mis | and im fairly sure he doesnt need you as a babysitter to make sure his stay is pelasant ;P |
| 23:01.38 | art3mis | pleasant |
| 23:01.38 | Lopeppeppy | I think.... he's got that covered, and if he doesn't, Cairenn isn't shy either. |
| 23:01.45 | Tekkub | art3mis, sadly I bet he wants to, but you know, you never can when you represent a company |
| 23:01.55 | art3mis | Tekkub: heh sure he can |
| 23:02.07 | art3mis | thats what bots are for ;) |
| 23:02.16 | Tekkub | we say he can, but his boss still says no because they fear pissing anyone off |
| 23:02.17 | art3mis | ~pissoff |
| 23:02.22 | Tekkub | thus is business |
| 23:02.30 | art3mis | smoeone make than an action for zoot ;P |
| 23:02.30 | Tekkub | hell, Cair even holds back |
| 23:02.46 | Tekkub | (she's really a raving bitch) |
| 23:02.52 | art3mis | with a cute ass |
| 23:02.57 | Tekkub | I hear she kicks puppies |
| 23:02.58 | art3mis | you cant forget that part |
| 23:06.11 | Drundia | I was lucky (or seeing under which circumstances it happened, unlucky) to have entire issue explained to me by Cairenn. So make sure you have no active script that reacts to "Zootfizzle has joined #wowuidev" with a <500 suggestions here>. Maybe he wants to talk to us about some random stuff and not about work. Would you like talking and thinking about work 24/7? |
| 23:07.07 | Tekkub | Well, if you're in here... and here is about WoW.. and work is about WoW... |
| 23:07.29 | Drundia | We don't talk about it here all the time. |
| 23:07.38 | Tekkub | When I don't want to think about work, I log out of their jabber server |
| 23:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | Speaking of which, here's a nice humanitarian story to rip apart. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080505/ap_on_re_us/bionic_beak;_ylt=ArdOFSinhFDiglGiukkjo1Os0NUE |
| 23:09.39 | Tekkub | pfft |
| 23:09.45 | pastamancer | "Beauty, a rescued Alaskan bald eagle, sits in her pen at a raptor recovery center... " |
| 23:09.54 | Tekkub | if it was a mullet eagle the assholes wouldn't care |
| 23:09.55 | pastamancer | whoa whoa whoa... RAPTOR recovery center? |
| 23:10.07 | pastamancer | clearly we're not getting the entire story |
| 23:10.17 | pastamancer | they're trying to make cyborg velociraptors |
| 23:10.22 | pastamancer | the eagle is just a test subject |
| 23:10.24 | Tekkub | but no, bald eagles are like OMG WE HAVE TO SAVE EVERY ONE! |
| 23:10.33 | Tekkub | wait it's a canadien bald eagle? fuck that |
| 23:10.38 | Gilial | Goddamn, I just saw Iron Man. Do NOT make me think about cyborg raptors. |
| 23:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | Iron Man rules the 'verse. 'nuff said. |
| 23:11.22 | Gilial | ...Or raptors in mechanized armour flying from town to town devouring our young. |
| 23:11.57 | Gilial | But I think the solution is simple. We should arm our children with artificial beaks to fend off the flying raptor attacks. |
| 23:12.15 | pastamancer | "Give me an hour with a third or sixth grader and they will never shoot a raptor." |
| 23:12.19 | Lopeppeppy | Genetic engineering at it's finest! Combine human DNA with raptor DNA! |
| 23:12.23 | Lopeppeppy | Jurassic Park IV! |
| 23:12.26 | pastamancer | they're training our children to be defenseless against raptors |
| 23:13.08 | pastamancer | beaks or no beaks, our children will be defenseless against this cyborg raptor threat |
| 23:13.23 | Zootfizzle | O_o |
| 23:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | Nah. They just need good electromagnets. |
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| 23:14.01 | Gilial | Electromagnetic raptors? ....Like...Will they stick to my fridge? |
| 23:14.17 | Tekkub | robot chicken :) |
| 23:14.58 | Lopeppeppy | Will that be mounted on my mechanostrider? |
| 23:15.00 | Tekkub | that would be a fun engineer item for the PvP tards... a high powered magnetic repulser |
| 23:15.13 | Tekkub | sends the guy with the big axe flying away from you |
| 23:15.29 | Tekkub | sometimes malfunctions and pull everyone with a metalic weapon to you |
| 23:15.31 | Gilial | Wait, raptor emitter? It'll emit raptors with a xenophobia for anything non-biological? Would that mean they'd be our friends? I wouldn't let my kids play with baby raptors in the park, no matter how close our two races become. |
| 23:16.16 | Drundia | no, i believe it's emitter against cyborg raptors |
| 23:16.24 | Gilial | Oh. |
| 23:16.28 | Drundia | so if they come we are prepared |
| 23:16.30 | Gilial | ...So I can't have raptor friends? :( |
| 23:16.33 | Tekkub | [Gnomish Huge Sword Repulser] |
| 23:16.45 | Drundia | you can never know, maybe it'll make them friendly |
| 23:16.53 | Drundia | like very friendly |
| 23:17.08 | Lopeppeppy | Cyboring raptors |
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| 23:17.22 | Gilial | I'm skurd this conversation ill turn to raptor pr0n. |
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| 23:17.33 | d3MMoNuL | anyone online? |
| 23:17.34 | Lopeppeppy | Don't get me started... *squik* |
| 23:17.37 | Drundia | though it would require some intense testing on public test planet |
| 23:17.41 | d3MMoNuL | any devs online? |
| 23:17.46 | Tekkub | no |
| 23:17.59 | Lopeppeppy | But the community may be able to answer your question, d3MMoNuL. |
| 23:18.15 | Drundia | keep in mind that this channel has more bots than real people |
| 23:18.25 | Gilial | Some people here are smart. Like really smart. Freakishly smart. They know what I had for lunch. At least, one of them does. |
| 23:18.25 | d3MMoNuL | Just wanted to report a bug in the last version of Auctioneer. |
| 23:18.36 | Tekkub | then use their bug tracker |
| 23:18.57 | Drundia | Gilial, it's strange, but I have the same issue. |
| 23:19.31 | Gilial | Its becoming an epidemic. |
| 23:20.39 | Drundia | we need to make a cure as soon as possible |
| 23:21.51 | Lopeppeppy | Bugs for Auctioneer... I know there's a specific #norganna channel for auctioneer/gatherer, but let me get you their forums too. http://forums.norganna.org/ |
| 23:22.01 | Gilial | The only cure is for everyone to not eat lunch. |
| 23:22.32 | Drundia | But someone will still know what you had for it, and that is NOTHING |
| 23:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | Nooo. I'm starved, and if I don't eat soon, I'll kill someone. |
| 23:22.46 | Drundia | They know you don't eat lunch and can use it against you! |
| 23:22.48 | Tekkub | http://jira.norganna.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa |
| 23:23.00 | Drundia | Lopeppeppy, better eat someone! |
| 23:23.10 | Drundia | Yes, I mean eat them alive! |
| 23:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | I like them better rare, honestly, just slightly cooked. |
| 23:24.04 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not quite Gollum, even if I am bloodthirsty and depraved. |
| 23:24.15 | Syzgyn | Babies R 4 Eats! Nomnomnom |
| 23:24.50 | Gilial | No, syzgyn. Babies R 4 Warfare. |
| 23:25.01 | Drundia | Slightly cook them while they are still alive |
| 23:25.04 | Lopeppeppy | Juice boxes. Nom nom nom. slurp |
| 23:25.29 | Syzgyn | Gilial: An army with a large supply of babies will neither run out of ammo nor starve |
| 23:26.09 | Drundia | The problem is that enemies can eat those babies too. |
| 23:26.09 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:26.25 | Syzgyn | Light them on fire, duh |
| 23:26.38 | Syzgyn | nobody likes charred babies |
| 23:26.42 | Gilial | IEBs |
| 23:26.47 | Zootfizzle | ... |
| 23:26.59 | Drundia | Well |
| 23:27.04 | Lopeppeppy | What's that movie with the pyromaniac.... |
| 23:27.04 | Drundia | Then your own army may starve |
| 23:27.04 | Zootfizzle | IEBs make me sad =( |
| 23:27.10 | Zootfizzle | It's a slippery slope to IEGs |
| 23:27.51 | Drundia | erhm.... what is IEB and IEG? |
| 23:27.53 | Lopeppeppy | Or IDG |
| 23:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | Stay away from those acronyms, they're vicious when roused! |
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| 23:28.33 | Gilial | Haha, silly Zootfizzle. Gnomes are reserved for controlled detonation. Basically e drop them out of bobmers onto minefields. |
| 23:28.53 | Gilial | we, bombers* ...>> |
| 23:28.56 | Syzgyn | Gnomes are close enough to babies anyway, nobody can tell the difference |
| 23:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:29.06 | Drundia | I believe acronyms are planning to enslave entire human civilization |
| 23:29.48 | Gilial | YHBT.YHL.HAND. |
| 23:30.03 | Lopeppeppy | OooOOOOH! |
| 23:30.20 | Lopeppeppy | Syzgyn, I challenge you to a duel, to the pain! |
| 23:30.50 | Drundia | There are dwarf babies! And rumors are that gnomes can have babies too, however other school of thinkers say that gnomes *are* dwarf babies. |
| 23:31.03 | Syzgyn | I accept! |
| 23:31.37 | Lopeppeppy | Meet me tomorrow noon, the airport above Ironforge. Bring a second to put you in the body bag. On second thought, bring a third, with a shovel for the gooey bits and a nice bukkit. |
| 23:31.52 | Lopeppeppy | Gilial, I think you just volunteered to be the scooper. :) |
| 23:32.29 | Drundia | purple text! |
| 23:32.34 | Syzgyn | Purple is the new black |
| 23:32.46 | Drundia | Was it purple that Lopeppeppy didn't like? |
| 23:33.19 | Gilial | @Lopeppeppy: I'll scoop up if I get to cook it. |
| 23:33.56 | Lopeppeppy | I have no idea what you want to do with the contents of your bukkit, that's your kink to research, not mine. |
| 23:34.14 | Gilial | I gets a bukkit. :D |
| 23:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | And yes Drundia, your memory is correct. I despise the color purple. |
| 23:36.43 | Xuerian | (XD) |
| 23:36.55 | Lopeppeppy | Holp, holp. Oh noes. Holp. |
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| 23:37.20 | Syzgyn | D: |
| 23:41.49 | art3mis | www.nin.com |
| 23:41.52 | art3mis | ^^ free new nin |
| 23:41.56 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: slow |
| 23:42.01 | art3mis | in flac mp3 raw wav and mp4 |
| 23:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: I was torrenting the flac 20 minutes after the site went live ;) |
| 23:42.11 | art3mis | ive been at work all day ;P |
| 23:43.57 | Syzgyn | I finally got around to listning to it. Not too bad |
| 23:44.55 | art3mis | http://www.lastappetite.com/french-fry-coated-bacon-on-a-stick/ |
| 23:45.00 | art3mis | its like his last album |
| 23:45.04 | art3mis | which i actually liked |
| 23:45.10 | art3mis | hand that feeds is a catchy song |
| 23:45.27 | Syzgyn | year zero or ghosts? |
| 23:45.42 | Gilial | I have seen the future, and I must eat it. |
| 23:45.50 | Syzgyn | I guess you mean Year Zero |
| 23:46.10 | Xuerian | art3mis: That sounds good |
| 23:46.17 | Xuerian | Oh.. It's a album? o_0 |
| 23:46.30 | Syzgyn | Xuerian: Eh? |
| 23:46.45 | art3mis | isnt that the best food you've ever seen? |
| 23:46.47 | Xuerian | nevermind it sounds good |
| 23:46.48 | Gilial | Album of what? I just read "bacon" and everything after that is sort of a blur... |
| 23:46.57 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 23:47.27 | Xuerian | I tabbed over, saw the link, right below it "Its like his last album" and was very, very confused |
| 23:48.01 | Gilial | I just want bacon. |
| 23:48.07 | bleeter | btw, folks, there's a 'Happy Birthday Syndri' thread on CSF, if anyone feels like dropping by and giving wishes, etc. |
| 23:48.07 | art3mis | bacon has that power xuer |
| 23:48.22 | art3mis | whos syndri? |
| 23:48.23 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6286731593&sid=1 |
| 23:48.26 | Xuerian | What's CSF? |
| 23:48.29 | art3mis | and why do i care? |
| 23:48.32 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 23:48.34 | art3mis | customer service forum |
| 23:48.42 | Xuerian | Your question was better, let's just ignore mine |
| 23:48.51 | bleeter | one of the two Senior GMs from Customer SUpport Forum (the darter) |
| 23:49.46 | bleeter | er, yeah, service |
| 23:49.58 | bleeter | damn they need to rename that to match the EU name, so confusing >< |
| 23:50.55 | Gilial | ...:( |
| 23:52.01 | art3mis | http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/05/05/8-things-grand-theft-auto-iv-gets-wrong-about-new-york-city-including-bagels |
| 23:53.30 | Gilial | strfind(http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6286731593&sid=1,"Bacon") returned 0 results...I feel sad... |
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