| 00:01.46 | WobWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TsOk-32Q8 |
| 00:02.00 | WobWork | similar to that car ad |
| 00:02.03 | WobWork | but lower budget |
| 00:02.13 | WobWork | and somewhat less engineered items |
| 00:05.10 | ckknight | if anyone can provide some feedback on this idea, it'd be helpful: http://curseforge.com/announcements/forks-and-clones-and-multiple-repositories/ |
| 00:05.47 | Legorol | ckknight: it has both good and bad sides to it |
| 00:06.06 | Legorol | the sheer simplicity of cloning will lead to mass-proliferation of different versions |
| 00:06.07 | ckknight | care to share your ideas? |
| 00:06.17 | Legorol | imo most authors won't bother to restrict the cloning |
| 00:06.24 | Legorol | so most projects will be clonable |
| 00:06.31 | Legorol | and there will be loads of versions of the same thing |
| 00:06.39 | ckknight | Legorol: clones will go away if there's no commits within a week |
| 00:07.03 | Legorol | that's contrary to the idea that once you clone something, you are its author and its yours |
| 00:07.09 | ckknight | (you can always reclone) |
| 00:07.12 | WobWork | ckknight: You should host the image on curse =) |
| 00:07.18 | Legorol | i got the impression that a clone is a toplevel entity just like the original |
| 00:07.19 | ckknight | WobWork: meh |
| 00:07.40 | Legorol | i was going to suggest to keep track of "clonedepth" |
| 00:07.43 | ckknight | Legorol: no, basically, if you don't do anything with a clone, it'll just disappear in a week |
| 00:07.53 | ckknight | but once you do a single commit, it sticks |
| 00:07.59 | ckknight | also, if it goes away, you can always reclone |
| 00:08.08 | ckknight | no harm, no foul |
| 00:08.11 | Legorol | then my original concern still stands |
| 00:08.13 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 00:08.21 | Legorol | by massproliferation i don't mean people just clicking the clone button |
| 00:08.32 | Legorol | i mean lots of different, slightly modified versions of the same thing will appear |
| 00:08.56 | Legorol | lots of people will clone to fix a line here and there -> massive headache |
| 00:09.11 | Legorol | how about adding a "maximum clonedepth" as well? |
| 00:09.18 | Legorol | original author can restrict how deeply it can be cloned |
| 00:10.05 | art3mis | %content cloning |
| 00:10.25 | art3mis | if the clone doesnt maintain at least a 15% new code it gets locked ;) |
| 00:11.03 | art3mis | also clone activity |
| 00:11.17 | art3mis | ie addon hasnt been updated in X amount of time it can be cloned |
| 00:11.27 | ckknight | Legorol: why would the author restrict that? |
| 00:11.48 | ckknight | art3mis: you can always clone if the license permits |
| 00:11.55 | ckknight | if you don't want clones, use a proprietary license |
| 00:11.57 | Legorol | well for example, i might restrict it to a depth of 1 |
| 00:12.02 | ckknight | why, Legorol? |
| 00:12.05 | art3mis | you shouldnt be able to clone live branches even with licence permitting |
| 00:12.08 | Legorol | so that people can clone for the purpose of fixing bugs/submitting fixes to me |
| 00:12.11 | ckknight | art3mis: why? |
| 00:12.18 | art3mis | seems counter productive |
| 00:12.22 | art3mis | belittles the authors work |
| 00:12.30 | art3mis | and creates and overflow of needless branches |
| 00:12.34 | art3mis | an |
| 00:12.37 | Legorol | live or tagged branch, who cares |
| 00:12.42 | art3mis | ie single line fixes |
| 00:13.01 | Legorol | but i would love it if i could restrict cloning for the purposes of people developing patches that they submit to me |
| 00:13.05 | art3mis | 15 people cloning it to "update for new patch" |
| 00:13.17 | ckknight | for one, you can always send the author a patch file |
| 00:13.24 | Legorol | art3mis: that will happen anyways |
| 00:13.32 | Legorol | ckknight: you are looking at it from the cloner's pov |
| 00:13.38 | Legorol | i'm looking at it from the original author's pov |
| 00:13.41 | ckknight | Legorol: I'm looking at it from both. |
| 00:13.47 | art3mis | Legorol: exactly, which is why only non actives, and as long as the new content on the clone isabove a level |
| 00:13.52 | ckknight | Legorol: I'm taking a lot of inspiration from gitorious' system |
| 00:14.09 | Legorol | i'm not familiar with it |
| 00:14.16 | art3mis | makes for better streamline and end results |
| 00:14.20 | Legorol | but i'm concerned that an author has basically only 2 choices: |
| 00:14.25 | ckknight | what if an auxilliary dev wants to add a new feature and the main author doesn't want him or her messing in the mainline repo? |
| 00:14.26 | Legorol | either prevent all cloning whatsoever, |
| 00:14.41 | art3mis | ckknight: in cases like that the author creates the branch |
| 00:14.45 | Legorol | or allow complete cloning with reassigned ownership, which essentially means forfeiting all copyrights |
| 00:15.00 | art3mis | with live addons it wont be a problem for the main to allow |
| 00:15.09 | ckknight | Legorol: um, you're either open source or you're not... |
| 00:15.21 | Legorol | i disagree |
| 00:15.31 | Legorol | i can be opening up the source for inspection/submission of patches |
| 00:15.34 | art3mis | you could also however allow for merges back to the main(patch form) with authors approval |
| 00:15.37 | Legorol | there are many halfway houses |
| 00:15.51 | ckknight | art3mis: that's part of the merge request system |
| 00:15.56 | Legorol | ckknight: also, open source does not equal declining copyright |
| 00:16.04 | ckknight | I agree, Legorol |
| 00:16.12 | Legorol | even under almost all open source licenses, copyright is retained by the person who wrote the piece |
| 00:16.19 | ckknight | no rebuttal |
| 00:16.20 | art3mis | it shuold be default no-clone unless the author allows |
| 00:16.32 | art3mis | unless thats what you were gonna do ;) |
| 00:16.39 | Legorol | ckknight: your system gives the impression, due to the new author being "owner", |
| 00:16.40 | art3mis | at which point im being redundant |
| 00:16.44 | Legorol | that they are now the copyright holder in the clone |
| 00:16.47 | ckknight | Legorol: owns the repo, not the code |
| 00:16.52 | ckknight | how hard is that to understand? |
| 00:16.58 | Legorol | i do understand that :) |
| 00:16.58 | art3mis | ckknight: for distro |
| 00:17.03 | Legorol | i'm saying that most people won't |
| 00:17.07 | ckknight | they _never_ gain copyright of the code |
| 00:17.14 | art3mis | addonA == addonB with different name and diff author |
| 00:17.15 | ckknight | alright, time for dinner |
| 00:17.17 | Legorol | that distinction is so fine that most people will not understand that point, that's where my concern is |
| 00:17.23 | Legorol | you wanted feedback :) |
| 00:17.32 | art3mis | i like system discussions |
| 00:17.35 | art3mis | ;) |
| 00:18.00 | Legorol | in most people's minds (and according to common sense) owner == author == copyright holder |
| 00:18.21 | art3mis | they could force a tag distro file |
| 00:18.22 | Legorol | by tagging clones with the cloner's name, you give the impression they have somehow become the owner of the new content |
| 00:18.32 | art3mis | Derivative of XXXXXX |
| 00:18.41 | art3mis | Derivative of XXXXXX by YYYYYYY |
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| 00:26.37 | Kaso | Ha Ha, the first episode of house back after the writer's strike begins with a strike in the episode :D |
| 00:27.04 | Sixen_ | lawl |
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| 01:00.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Is simply assigning an existing table to {} enough to nuke and reinitialize, or should I set it to nil first? |
| 01:00.17 | Legorol | it's enough, but creates garbage |
| 01:00.24 | Legorol | what you should do is nil out its entries using a loop |
| 01:00.44 | Kaso | doesnt that create an equal amount of garbage just in smaller units? |
| 01:00.45 | Legorol | i take it you meant the opposite of what you said: |
| 01:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Well this is done on logout, so I'm not too worried |
| 01:00.50 | Legorol | assigning {} to an existing table |
| 01:01.06 | Legorol | as opposed to assigning a table to {}, which is not possible ;-) |
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| 01:01.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Meh details :) |
| 01:01.36 | Legorol | tell that to the compiler! |
| 01:01.43 | Corrodias | you should assign nil to _G. |
| 01:03.22 | Kaso | _G = nil wouldnt do anything, cept stop _G working, setfenv(0,{}) would muck things up |
| 01:04.57 | Legorol | Kaso: it creates slightly less garbage because it doesn't destroy the table itself |
| 01:05.05 | Legorol | (referring to your earlier question) |
| 01:05.23 | Legorol | if you do t = {} to clear it, you garbage everything in the table plus the table itself, and create a new table |
| 01:05.47 | Kaso | ah, indeed |
| 01:06.11 | Legorol | if on the other hand you do: for i in pairs(t) do t[i]=nil end, you create one less object |
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| 01:06.26 | Legorol | sure it's a minuscule difference if t is huge already, and all of it is getting garbaged |
| 01:06.41 | Legorol | but if t contains references to things that are still being used (so you aren't garbaging), then it's a big deal |
| 01:06.47 | ScytheBlade1 | As stated, I'm doing it on logout :P |
| 01:07.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Was more curious than a critical place for performance :) |
| 01:07.03 | Legorol | ScytheBlade1: we got that, i'm addressing Kaso's point in general terms |
| 01:07.47 | Kaso | to be thorugh you'd need to reset metatables as well, to be sure you're getting a blank table out the other side |
| 01:08.05 | Kaso | but i guess you'd know if the table had any metatable magic so you'd know what needed to be done |
| 01:08.51 | bleeter | which threat meter are folks using? personally, I'm using Omen but someone was blabbering at me yesterday about something called Diamond. Anyone got any details on that one? |
| 01:09.38 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: I heard about it on the forums, a total of three times. Two of those times were wondering about disconnects while using it. |
| 01:10.01 | bleeter | ScytheBlade1: heh, that's all I found about it too |
| 01:10.52 | bleeter | btw folks, WoW's Customer Suport Forum (staffed by GM's) is 2 years old today. Don't hesitate to jump in on the birthday thread and wish them all the best :) |
| 01:12.13 | bleeter | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6214143591&sid=1 |
| 01:12.17 | Moov | hello, is it easy and quickly possible to get a european wow client to connect to us servers ? ore does it need a new account ? |
| 01:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Moov: requires a US account |
| 01:12.35 | Moov | k thx |
| 01:13.03 | bleeter | can use the same client, afaik, though. |
| 01:13.18 | Moov | thought that, thx |
| 01:13.22 | bleeter | need to edit your realmlist.wtf to point to the us servers, and I think your config.wtf as well |
| 01:13.44 | bleeter | though I must admit, last time I mentioned this, someone told me it didn't work... I dunno, tho, haven't heard anything definitive from anyone who'd 'really' know |
| 01:13.53 | bleeter | *in the past few months |
| 01:14.02 | Legorol | bleeter: it works |
| 01:14.07 | Moov | ah ok, so a bit more to do, will go sleep and continue dev tomorrov |
| 01:14.09 | Legorol | done it a week or so ago |
| 01:14.23 | bleeter | Legorol: loverly. glad to know that guildie was talking out his ass (again) ;) |
| 01:14.57 | Legorol | bleeter: not necessarily, there was a period when it didn't work |
| 01:15.09 | Legorol | WoW would ignore realmlist.wtf and reset it to what it's supposed to be |
| 01:15.16 | Legorol | how/why/when they reverted that, i don't know |
| 01:15.26 | Legorol | but it's working atm |
| 01:15.41 | bleeter | ah |
| 01:15.52 | bleeter | that change might've pissed off some BLizz execs as they travelled around hehe ;) |
| 01:15.59 | Legorol | possibly |
| 01:16.06 | Legorol | or the change may have been unintentional |
| 01:16.11 | bleeter | true |
| 01:16.28 | Tasky | does anyone have any tips on reading the unit flags in combat_log_event |
| 01:16.31 | bleeter | might've also made internal comparitive testing between live realms more problematic /shrug |
| 01:17.08 | Legorol | there is no particular reason to restrict the use of the same client to different realms |
| 01:17.22 | Legorol | if someone wants to connect from abroad, they can always screw up stats by using the appropriate client |
| 01:17.26 | bleeter | Legorol: language pack support? |
| 01:17.45 | Legorol | i don't see the relevance of that |
| 01:17.49 | bleeter | oh, nm, I think I misread your statement |
| 01:17.53 | Legorol | language packs are client-based, not server based |
| 01:18.10 | Legorol | all realms know and can handle all language versions |
| 01:18.33 | Legorol | which is pretty interesting actually, it means US realms can stream you quest text in korean if you are so perverse |
| 01:18.56 | bleeter | ah, teh sexy |
| 01:19.01 | Moov | sorry starting this polemic |
| 01:19.04 | Moov | hehe |
| 01:19.08 | Legorol | there was a pretty amusing bug a while back in EU |
| 01:19.29 | Legorol | some people, who are using the english client, started getting quest text in german |
| 01:19.41 | Moov | lol |
| 01:19.42 | bleeter | noice lol |
| 01:19.45 | Legorol | i did some digging and found a workaround and posted it on techsupport |
| 01:20.08 | Legorol | but one of the conclusions i reached was that (at least at the time) it appeared that the server would cache the client language you last used to connect |
| 01:20.35 | Legorol | the bug seemed to have been that it ignored the client's request for a new language when it differed from what it remembered, |
| 01:20.44 | Legorol | and coupled that with randomly changing the cached language to german for some people |
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| 01:21.02 | Legorol | but it was all a bit vague |
| 01:21.08 | Legorol | amusing though ^^ |
| 01:21.21 | Legorol | bleeter: what's the daily rollover issue? |
| 01:21.32 | Legorol | there is one in EU that I know of |
| 01:21.45 | Legorol | maybe same in US as well? |
| 01:21.47 | bleeter | Legorol: lemme grab a bug report post I made, where I managed to 'nail' 5 or 6 issues I have with it (confirmed with other players) |
| 01:21.59 | Legorol | ok |
| 01:22.14 | bleeter | Think it has to do with summertime, and realm not in same TZ as Blizz HQ |
| 01:22.15 | Tasky | nobody can help me :-\ |
| 01:23.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Tasky: read the 2.4 UI changes thread, it's all in there |
| 01:23.43 | Tasky | using Lua to read the flags? |
| 01:24.16 | bleeter | Legorol: there's a 3-4 hour window where handing stuff in before the 'reset' message appears, which will stop you from doing the quest the following day |
| 01:24.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, disregard that |
| 01:24.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Ask your question, not "please help me" :) |
| 01:24.38 | Legorol | bleeter: same issue, except i have specifics nailed for EU English realms |
| 01:24.39 | bleeter | Legorol: having 'fun' trying to locate my bug report post, which has some nice 'debug' style info in it, but there's a number of other reports |
| 01:25.13 | bleeter | Legorol: sweet, well... I pinged Zot about it, he said if he had time he'd ask Hortus... still, if there was some workaround, or a Daily Quest Tracking Mod, I could 'live' with it for now |
| 01:25.31 | Legorol | on EU English realms, it works as follows: |
| 01:25.33 | bleeter | as it stands, it's a mega-piss off that every evening play of mine has this huge hole where I daren't go near dailies |
| 01:25.46 | Legorol | in-game reset message (and to all intents and purposes, the actual reset) appears to happen at 4am |
| 01:26.01 | Legorol | if you have completed 25 quests, you can't complete anymore until 4am |
| 01:26.06 | Legorol | relogging etc. doesn't help |
| 01:26.16 | Legorol | quests completed between 3am and 4am though don't reset and carry over |
| 01:26.23 | Legorol | the window is exactly 1 hour |
| 01:26.50 | bleeter | in that 3-4AM window, mouseover the daily count in your quest log. instead of saying 'dailies will reset in x minutes', it'll say 'dailies will reset in .' |
| 01:26.53 | Legorol | i don't know if it would be the same for US realms, but i assume it's the same issue, so the window would be the same |
| 01:27.12 | bleeter | sounds largely the same |
| 01:27.22 | Legorol | it could be that the 3/4am is at a different time, but the window size ought to be the same, if this is all due to summer time |
| 01:28.53 | bleeter | Legorol: can't be that Hortus isn't aware, almost every page of Bug Report seems to have some thread with 'daily' in the subject, and alluding to this problem |
| 01:29.03 | bleeter | (up to page 10 now, still can't find my post hehe) |
| 01:29.23 | Tasky | i guess i don't know which bitwise operator to use, and how. i.e. i have the source flags, and i have the flags i want to look for... but i don't want a huge table of every combination |
| 01:29.46 | bleeter | Legorol: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5974044055&sid=1 |
| 01:29.55 | Legorol | i'm sure they are aware |
| 01:30.00 | Legorol | i just don't think it's a big priority |
| 01:30.06 | Legorol | how many people do dailies in 3-4am window ;-) |
| 01:30.20 | Legorol | and if you consistently do that every day anyway, you haven't lost anything |
| 01:30.56 | ScytheBlade1 | What are you doing exactly, Tasky? You have yet to really ask anything :) |
| 01:31.27 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a very broad answer for a very broad question. |
| 01:31.37 | ckknight | hey all, back |
| 01:31.40 | Tasky | I want to see if a combat_log_event entry's source or dest flags match those of self/part/raid member |
| 01:31.44 | bleeter | Legorol: I dare you to look at the realm list at 3-4AM, you'll notice there are a number of 'high' or 'full' realms, typically these are populated by Oceanics who can't stand the kids on the Oceanic realms (eg, Blackrock), or RPers from Oceania 'coz Blizz don't have an RP Oceanic realm (me)... basically, I'm saying 'quite a few, I think more than you'd suspect') |
| 01:32.01 | dylanm | Tasky: Just match the GUIDs? |
| 01:32.09 | Tasky | GUIDs vs? |
| 01:32.20 | dylanm | You get a sourceGUID. |
| 01:32.22 | bleeter | enoguh, at least, to generate one bug report per page in the bug forum, in the first 14 pages |
| 01:32.26 | ckknight | Legorol: I'll be sure to make the copyright distinctions known |
| 01:32.26 | Tasky | yeah |
| 01:32.30 | dylanm | There's a UnitGUID function. |
| 01:32.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Tasky: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=19#360 |
| 01:32.55 | ScytheBlade1 | 2.4 UI changes thread |
| 01:33.00 | Legorol | ckknight: i wasn't trying to make a point about the legalese |
| 01:33.05 | Legorol | i think you may have misunderstood |
| 01:33.12 | ckknight | Legorol: I might've |
| 01:33.24 | Legorol | my point was that, due to the way people work, the legalese or any small print will be ignored |
| 01:33.37 | ckknight | Legorol: but I'll be sure to make the distinction between copyright owner and repository handler distinct |
| 01:33.50 | Legorol | and thanks to the system, in practice, the new owner of the clone will end up as the owner of the content, for practical purposes |
| 01:33.57 | Legorol | ckknight: that's a start |
| 01:34.07 | Legorol | i was trying to think what happens in practice :) |
| 01:34.23 | Legorol | whenever you can copy something and stick your name on it, people will just assume that it's yours |
| 01:34.33 | Legorol | that's just how these things work |
| 01:34.41 | Legorol | noone will bother with the legal details |
| 01:34.46 | ckknight | yea, yea, I understand that side |
| 01:35.22 | ckknight | and I completely understand your argument about people being inherently dumb |
| 01:35.23 | Legorol | which is why it would be nice if the system made a clear distinction between original projects and clones |
| 01:35.33 | Legorol | like a label saying "clone of XX" |
| 01:35.41 | Legorol | make the source clear imo |
| 01:36.18 | Legorol | or as art3mis suggested: <art3mis> Derivative of XXXXXX by YYYYYYY |
| 01:39.41 | ckknight | Legorol: the name is basically one word or multiple words separated by dashes |
| 01:39.54 | ckknight | but I'll make sure that the origin is clear |
| 01:43.16 | ckknight | and so you know, I do take copyright ownership and infringement seriously and absolutely won't tolerate it |
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| 01:43.37 | Legorol | ckknight: that's fine, i didn't mean to imply that you don't |
| 01:43.47 | Legorol | i'm just trying to point out practical issues |
| 01:44.00 | ckknight | but it's doubly important to know that I'll be taking the open source licenses seriously as well |
| 01:44.08 | Legorol | sure |
| 01:44.17 | Legorol | so, what about middle-ground licenses? |
| 01:44.32 | ckknight | can you provide an example? |
| 01:44.34 | Legorol | people that want to allow others to view the source, submit patches, but not create a clone? |
| 01:44.39 | Legorol | ok, practical example: |
| 01:44.54 | Legorol | i want people to be able to make a copy of my project, fiddle with it all they want, even have it available as a download |
| 01:45.00 | Legorol | and give them the option to submit patches to me |
| 01:45.07 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:45.09 | Legorol | but i don't want it to go beyond that one level, so no proliferation |
| 01:45.16 | Legorol | so that i stay in control |
| 01:45.25 | durcyn | Nechckn: good catch, thanks |
| 01:45.31 | Legorol | does that make sense? |
| 01:45.35 | Legorol | it's kind of a halfway house |
| 01:45.59 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.04 | Legorol | yup |
| 01:46.15 | Legorol | it's very useful on patch days for example |
| 01:46.28 | Legorol | i don't mind someone putting up a copy that fixes things for patch day, so i don't have to rush |
| 01:46.32 | ckknight | I think having a special case for that would be doable |
| 01:46.38 | Legorol | it's just an idea |
| 01:46.45 | Legorol | not saying i'd use it, but saying this might be worth thinking about |
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| 01:46.59 | ckknight | yea, I see your point |
| 01:47.07 | ckknight | I basically want something very similar |
| 01:47.24 | Legorol | yup i understood that your intention is similar |
| 01:47.24 | ckknight | (for Cartographer3) |
| 01:47.49 | Legorol | but i think in your version it kind of relies on the cloners being wellbehaved, and cloning with the intention of submitting patches back |
| 01:48.25 | ckknight | not necessarily, but that's the perfect-world scenario |
| 01:48.27 | Legorol | however, since they can do more than that, they will do more than that :) |
| 01:49.02 | Legorol | it comes down to whether the system can (from a technical pov) make a distinction between an original and a clone, |
| 01:49.14 | Legorol | or are all clones automatically original projects to all intents and purposes? |
| 01:49.33 | ckknight | no, mainline is special. the owner of mainline is the official owner of the project |
| 01:49.40 | Legorol | ok |
| 01:49.51 | Legorol | that point wasn't clear enough in your text, that's why i asked |
| 01:50.09 | Legorol | that makes things better as it allows various technical restrictions on cloning |
| 01:50.19 | ckknight | but, I mean, if you think about it, nothing is stopping someone from forking an open source project and putting it up as their own project (outside of the cloning system) |
| 01:50.29 | ckknight | it's just slightly harder |
| 01:50.29 | Legorol | sure |
| 01:50.36 | Legorol | yup, that's completely true |
| 01:51.03 | ckknight | also, I think I'm gonna have it so you have to give a reason for making the clone, e.g. want to do a new feature or fix a bug, etc. |
| 01:51.06 | Legorol | but i think in this case appearances matter |
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| 01:51.21 | ckknight | just having that instead of a one-click clone will allay a lot of click-happy assholes |
| 01:51.44 | ckknight | also, if you're an author, you'd be able to report a clone that you think is created out of malice |
| 01:51.44 | Legorol | that's true |
| 01:52.07 | ckknight | well, malice or stupidity |
| 01:52.14 | ckknight | both are essentially equivalent |
| 01:52.38 | Legorol | hehe |
| 01:54.13 | ckknight | oh, and if a user were to visit a clone page (which you'd get as basically a subfolder of the project, not as a distinct project page), it'd give a notice telling you it's not the mainline repo, things may be less stable, etc. |
| 01:54.16 | ckknight | all that good stuff |
| 01:58.17 | ckknight | any other concerns or comments? |
| 01:58.23 | ckknight | I do appreciate the feedback, btw |
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| 01:59.27 | Legorol | ckknight: ok so from a visual pov it will be totally different than how it came across first |
| 01:59.29 | Legorol | that's good |
| 01:59.39 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:00.01 | Legorol | if someone clones a clone, do they end up with a sub-sub-folder |
| 02:00.31 | Legorol | if you really ahve that kind of visual representation in mind, then most of my worries are gone |
| 02:02.55 | ckknight | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/Cartographer3/ is the project page, has all the base information, tickets, pages, all that good stuff. The owner of the mainline repo is transparently the owner of the project. Technically, you get the repo information at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/Cartographer3/repos/mainline/, but much of the information there is shown on the base project page as well. |
| 02:03.09 | ckknight | for clones, they'd show up at, e.g. http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/Cartographer3/repos/legorols-clone/ |
| 02:04.05 | ckknight | it'd show the reason for the clone, big warnings saying that it's not the mainline, and you'd be able to download zips from there and browse the tree, see what's changed, all that good stuff |
| 02:05.07 | bleeter | ckknight: oO git? awesomeness! :) |
| 02:05.36 | bleeter | (not git specifically, just usage of any distributed control system) |
| 02:06.39 | ckknight | bleeter: git, hg, svn, your choice |
| 02:06.47 | enum | Legorol: were you the one who suggested I look into Confidence Intervals for extsimating mob health |
| 02:06.57 | enum | s/were/was/ |
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| 02:07.02 | Shirik | I've been wanting to try out mercurial |
| 02:07.20 | ckknight | Shirik: we use it internally for the curseforge.com and curse.com codebases |
| 02:07.20 | Legorol | yup but i didn't mean for you to actually delve into the complete statistics of confidence intervals |
| 02:07.22 | bleeter | ckknight: I'm actually looking at using Tailor to import any external to an internal DSCCS of my own choice ;) |
| 02:07.23 | enum | man, I can't even correct myself correctly |
| 02:07.26 | Legorol | they are very complicated stuff |
| 02:07.33 | Legorol | much simpler stuff works too |
| 02:07.36 | enum | Legorol: my eyes bled |
| 02:07.41 | Legorol | sorry :'( |
| 02:07.47 | enum | I had a question though |
| 02:08.00 | ckknight | bleeter: you mean like svn:externals? |
| 02:08.00 | bleeter | Tailor's very cool at converting SSCCS/DSCCS, but is known to fall apart on some SVNs when moves occur |
| 02:08.16 | bleeter | ckknight: nah, importing say a mercurial to a git, exporting a git to svn, etc. |
| 02:08.18 | ckknight | bleeter: Curseforge will support arbitrary externals from any repo to any repo |
| 02:08.30 | ckknight | in the svn:externals sense |
| 02:08.31 | bleeter | Tailor's a python tool that's supposed to do all the legwork for you |
| 02:08.37 | ckknight | hrm, cool beans |
| 02:08.39 | enum | if I get the mean of damage done, how would I implement CI into that? for example: I hit the mob 3 times, and in those 3 times I did an average of 6,000 damage |
| 02:09.03 | bleeter | ckknight: yeah, not externals. say, I could pull Cart3 to my repo here from your git, and then I'd grab AADv from their SVN and convert to my own local repo, etc. |
| 02:09.25 | enum | now, if the percentage given is rounded. it's a 50% chance that the actual percentage is < and > then actual percentage given + .5 |
| 02:09.38 | bleeter | ckknight: then all these 'external' addons, in their own repos etc., would just be in my singular DB that I can go edit happy on and nothing's pushed back upstream, etc. |
| 02:09.44 | ckknight | bleeter: hrm, interesting |
| 02:09.45 | enum | s/crosseyes/crosseyed/ |
| 02:09.53 | Legorol | enum: i apologise if i gave the impression that i actually know what i was talking about |
| 02:10.10 | Legorol | i don't know how people implement such things, i just remembered from my stats classes that confidence intervals might be relevant |
| 02:10.19 | Legorol | i didn't write an addon of the sort |
| 02:10.25 | bleeter | ckknight: distributed addon development, and distributed addon updating, is something I've been puzzling over for a li'l while now hehe |
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| 02:11.01 | Legorol | what i would've done if i had to write one is: store the total amount of damage done to the mob, the percentage it has, and just divide |
| 02:11.04 | enum | I was looking @ the mobHealth addon. Good idea there, but I really don't have a need to keep the data around. Besides, best way to learn is to do, and if I just "copy" the mobhealth code I don't learn |
| 02:11.10 | ckknight | bleeter: well, hey, if you have any fun ideas for curseforge, I'm more than willing to hear em. |
| 02:11.20 | hi11ie | is there a function to open the keyring specifically? when I open the keyring with OpenBag it comes up as like some enormous bag, but when i click the button it is 4 slots |
| 02:11.31 | Legorol | mm the point of storing it is that next time you meet the mob, you can show the health from the start |
| 02:11.44 | enum | I have other uses for the data :) |
| 02:11.53 | bleeter | ckknight: until 10 mins ago, I hadn't seen it hehe. i'll see if I can turn up anything - although my priority atm is to get MentalPower's damn mail server happening hehe |
| 02:11.53 | ckknight | bleeter: not to act like a corporate drone or anything, but the platform itself is pretty shiny and I get to hack whatever I want on it, pretty much |
| 02:11.57 | Legorol | if you estimate it hte way i suggested, the estimate won't be accurate enough until you hit it 2-3 times at least for a normal mob, |
| 02:12.03 | Legorol | and loads of times for a raid boss :) |
| 02:12.07 | ckknight | bleeter: (referring to curseforge) |
| 02:12.54 | enum | Legorol: right, I plan to store the data during combat and until the next reload of the ui. I'll keep digging thanks |
| 02:12.55 | Legorol | so anyway, depending on your needs, a simple total damage/percentage will give you the Hp and would be good enough |
| 02:13.16 | Legorol | the confidence interval thing is over the top, you'd use that to say how accurate your estimate is ;-) |
| 02:13.43 | Legorol | i'm sorry that i threw you off track |
| 02:13.55 | enum | no worries... a good eye bleed is healthy sometimes :) |
| 02:14.04 | enum | it flushes the taint of the porn :P |
| 02:16.00 | enum | wow, I totally silenced the room XD |
| 02:16.57 | ckknight | hooray for boobies! |
| 02:17.17 | enum | they are great |
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| 02:22.50 | Legorol | actually, this channel is far more non-pornographic and anti-sexual than most IRC channels i have seen |
| 02:23.01 | Legorol | maybe it has to do with the geekiness of the average inhabitants? |
| 02:23.09 | Legorol | (hurray for overgeneralised stereotypes) |
| 02:23.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Legorol: that and, you know, the owner is female ;) |
| 02:23.40 | Legorol | Irrelevant imo |
| 02:23.58 | Iriel | You have SEEN her avatar on wowi, right? |
| 02:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 02:24.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel wins |
| 02:24.06 | Legorol | For starters, Cairenn loves porn just as much as anyone else, i'm sure. |
| 02:24.10 | Cairenn | Legorol obviously hasn't been paying attention when Seerah|away, Lopeppeppy and I get going |
| 02:24.23 | Legorol | It's just that this is a wellbehaved channel in every respect, porn is just a minor part |
| 02:24.32 | Iriel | who needs porn when you have LUA. |
| 02:24.32 | Legorol | there is no cussing, cursing, swearing and yelling either |
| 02:24.46 | Legorol | Iriel: Lua is not an acronym, it's portugese for moon. |
| 02:24.48 | Iriel | Legorol: there's some of that. |
| 02:24.49 | Legorol | and where's krka |
| 02:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd backhand you, Iriel, but you've got the +o and I don't. ;) |
| 02:24.56 | Iriel | Legorol: But not as much as other places, granted |
| 02:25.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 02:25.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: I actually had a feature suggestion for DevTools, should you ever find yourself bored :) |
| 02:25.31 | Legorol | besides, Cairenn loves to link ~porn |
| 02:25.37 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 02:25.44 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Is it named list of event filters, or something else? |
| 02:25.45 | Cairenn | ~for porn |
| 02:25.46 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 02:25.51 | Legorol | oh it's forporn |
| 02:25.56 | Legorol | see, i don't even remember it right, she does |
| 02:25.59 | Legorol | point proven |
| 02:26.05 | ScytheBlade1 | The basic event filters for /dteventrace are great - check on, check off - I'd love a way to add arg filters to the events before they are displayed too |
| 02:26.31 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Hm... ok.. i'll file that in the back of my head |
| 02:26.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm playing with SendAddonMessage() to the GUILD channel, so I just checked CHAT_MSG_ADDON. But guild is spammy, and I only care about the events from one person |
| 02:26.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Just a simple "if argX == string" kinda thing, 100% non-specific to any one event |
| 02:26.56 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: I've got a re-write to do eventually to make it use my faux scroll frame library |
| 02:27.10 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Would you be content if you could just specify a lua function to filter with? |
| 02:27.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Probably |
| 02:27.26 | Legorol | that's an awesome idea |
| 02:27.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd be a stupid amount of functionality |
| 02:27.42 | Iriel | ok, it's on my mental list then.. |
| 02:27.43 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 02:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:27.50 | Legorol | and trivial to implement, all you need is an editbox, or just a slash command |
| 02:27.52 | Iriel | PM me on wowinterface if you think i'll forget 8-) |
| 02:27.59 | Legorol | if you can just specify the function as a global name, that's it |
| 02:28.02 | Iriel | Legorol: Careful with the T word |
| 02:28.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I also asked about this some time ago - saving of events to a saved var |
| 02:28.14 | Legorol | Iriel: well ok |
| 02:28.23 | Legorol | you know that i always think theoretical ;-) |
| 02:28.42 | Legorol | Theoretically Trivial |
| 02:28.47 | Legorol | or Trivially Theoretical? |
| 02:30.11 | Iriel | To be honest the only tricky part is making it work efficiently, a barebones implementation would be fairly easy |
| 02:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: PM away! Thanks :) |
| 02:30.32 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1: Thanks 8-) |
| 02:30.49 | Seerah|away | hey, I forgot to change my nick.... |
| 02:31.11 | Seerah | my ears were buzzing |
| 02:31.16 | Seerah | *ringing |
| 02:31.29 | Iriel | I was going to say, I think you're supposed to rub that lower down |
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| 02:34.41 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if the new hitsmode is worth messing with |
| 02:35.37 | Iriel | Legorol: that wasn't pornography, that was potentially life-saving advice |
| 02:36.09 | Legorol | Iriel: ok :O |
| 02:36.20 | Legorol | what's with the ringing? is that a dangerous sign? |
| 02:37.26 | Seerah | ears ringing means someone was talking about you |
| 02:37.27 | ckknight | I'm thinking of joining the community theater, to have something to do outside of work |
| 02:37.42 | Seerah | you should - get to know people down there |
| 02:38.08 | Seerah | plus, it will make it feel a little bit more like home |
| 02:38.17 | Seerah | (or a home away from home...) |
| 02:38.27 | ckknight | I'm coming to realize that 140-hour workweeks may not be the best thing |
| 02:38.41 | Seerah | heh - no :P |
| 02:39.08 | Seerah | and you still have most of your life ahead of you to work 140-hr work weeks ;) |
| 02:39.29 | ckknight | assuming I don't die before the age of 40 |
| 02:39.38 | Seerah | :P |
| 02:39.47 | ckknight | and I was contemplating going out at around 35 by alcohol poisoning |
| 02:40.09 | Seerah | you couldn't think of a better way then drinking yourself to a stupor? |
| 02:40.25 | Iriel | ckknight: the level cap is WAY above 40, you'd miss a ton of content. |
| 02:40.26 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like fun to me.... |
| 02:40.45 | ckknight | seems like a manly way to die |
| 02:40.53 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 02:41.05 | Seerah | did he just call you manly? :P |
| 02:41.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: win |
| 02:41.08 | ckknight | Iriel: yea, but the grinding between lvl 20-65 seems like kind of a pain before you can go raiding Bingo |
| 02:41.31 | Seerah | the BINGO song just popped into my head...... |
| 02:41.35 | Iriel | ckknight: you're taking all the wrong quests, maybe you should stop grinding corporate rep? |
| 02:41.46 | ckknight | but the monies... |
| 02:41.48 | Seerah | oooh, another point for Iriel |
| 02:42.02 | Tasky | wow Lua nub question |
| 02:42.07 | Iriel | ckknight: well, there is that, but intersperse it with something else, maybe a couple of vacation instances? |
| 02:42.08 | Seerah | ask away |
| 02:42.11 | Shirik | ~asktoask |
| 02:42.12 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 02:42.22 | ckknight | Iriel: well, that's why I brought up the community theater thing |
| 02:42.25 | Seerah | work is like Daily quests |
| 02:42.45 | Seerah | you do it for the money and rep (and maybe you enjoy them) but there's other stuff to do :) |
| 02:42.48 | Lopeppeppy | With less reward |
| 02:42.49 | Iriel | ckknight: theatre is good, I used to do stage lighting (long long ago, before the joys of work were upon me though) |
| 02:43.00 | Lopeppeppy | I did stage sound and lights, lots of fun. |
| 02:43.03 | ckknight | I was involved in theater in junior high and high school |
| 02:43.12 | ckknight | acting and stage stuff |
| 02:43.26 | Seerah | I've been on and behind stage too |
| 02:43.34 | Tasky | how-to initialize a table with default values? i.e. create a new table tmpTable, and a value inside the table, for example "count", to be set to 0 upon creation. so i can do table["count"] = table["count"] + 1; |
| 02:43.39 | Seerah | so many things we have in common! Let's hug! |
| 02:43.50 | Iriel | T = { count = 0; } |
| 02:43.58 | Tasky | ah |
| 02:44.01 | Tasky | i missed it by 1 mark |
| 02:44.05 | Tasky | i was using , not ; |
| 02:44.08 | Iriel | or you can alternatively just write your code as T["count"] = (T["count"] or 0) + 1; |
| 02:44.13 | Shirik | , should work too |
| 02:44.13 | ckknight | Tasky: both work fine |
| 02:44.14 | Iriel | you dont NEED the ; |
| 02:44.20 | Iriel | I just like them 8-) |
| 02:44.27 | Iriel | T = { count = 0 } works too |
| 02:44.54 | Seerah | gnomes are fragile |
| 02:44.56 | Tasky | http://ace.pastey.net/86905 is giving me problems |
| 02:44.59 | Seerah | ... or something |
| 02:45.00 | Shirik | One of the big things I dislike about Lua is its take on semicolons. I would love to have them in, but there's no reason doing ";;" should be an error |
| 02:45.02 | Kaso | lua |
| 02:45.06 | Kaso | woops |
| 02:45.13 | Shirik | I use semicolons all the time and all, but still |
| 02:45.33 | Iriel | Shirik: Really, I think that's a sensible error |
| 02:45.44 | Shirik | lua> if not tmpInfo then tmpInfo = {"name" = "", "damage" = 0, "heal" = 0} end pp(tmpInfo) |
| 02:45.44 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 02:45.45 | Iriel | You're using ; to say 'the thing before was a statement, i'm sure of that" |
| 02:45.57 | Shirik | oh |
| 02:45.57 | Iriel | You can't do "blah" |
| 02:45.59 | Shirik | get rid of the "" |
| 02:46.03 | Iriel | You can do blah or ["blah"] |
| 02:46.03 | Shirik | or do ["name"] |
| 02:46.14 | Tasky | OH lol |
| 02:46.41 | Tasky | lua> if not tmpInfo then tmpInfo = {name = "", damage = 0, heal = 0} end pp(tmpInfo) |
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| 02:46.42 | lua_bot | Tasky: { ["heal"] = 0, ["name"] = "", ["damage"] = 0 } (#1) |
| 02:46.48 | Tasky | :D thx |
| 02:47.09 | Tasky | im writing a barebones damage meter |
| 02:47.39 | Iriel | Barebones is a text box that says "Some" or "None" depending on whether you're in combat 8-) |
| 02:47.46 | Seerah | lol |
| 02:47.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:47.59 | Seerah | what if you're in combat and not doing any damage? |
| 02:48.11 | Iriel | Well, i'm sure you're thinking about damage, so it counts |
| 02:48.16 | Seerah | would it say "slacker"? |
| 02:49.20 | Shirik | if you get aggro it says "too much"? |
| 02:49.54 | Iriel | Someone really should code that up into an AddOn |
| 02:49.58 | Iriel | it'd be awesome |
| 02:50.41 | bleeter | should be 'NUB!' for 'none', 'MOAR DOTZ' for when you're doing damage, 'WTFOMGAARGH' when you pull aggro |
| 02:50.43 | Guillotine | Sounds like my idea for a super light-weight threat meter |
| 02:50.54 | Guillotine | Green if you're out of combat, yellow if you're in combat, red if you're dead |
| 02:50.55 | Kaso | surely "RUN TO CENTER" for aggro |
| 02:52.08 | Kaso | or - 50dkp |
| 02:53.33 | ckknight | okay stop dots |
| 02:53.41 | Tem | I own that shirt |
| 02:53.43 | Tem | and I love it |
| 02:54.00 | Tasky | http://ace.pastey.net/86907 alright, i have a variable, outTable, local to my addon (declared local outside all code blocks). if i create a reference to it inside of a function using a local variable, will changes made to the temporary variable reflect on the table entry? i.e. is the function's variable a reference or a copy... |
| 02:54.29 | Tasky | i would think reference, but... i don't know? |
| 02:54.31 | Kaso | tis a reference |
| 02:54.33 | Tem | tables and functions are always references |
| 02:54.39 | Tem | numbers and strings are always values |
| 02:55.00 | Tasky | okay, so the code in the pastey will update an existing entry and create a new one if needed? |
| 02:55.32 | Seerah | (9:50:54 PM) Guillotine: Green if you're out of combat, yellow if you're in combat, red if you're dead --> There was a KTMFu that was similar |
| 02:56.08 | Seerah | colored Green -> Red based on aggro and said stuff like "fine, lrn2dps, aggro" or what have you |
| 02:56.16 | Tasky | i'm trying to debug why i'm not seeing anything in the output... i can paste the whole file on the site if needed |
| 02:56.37 | Kaso | Tasky, instead of making a blank entry if the entry doesnt exist then filling it with data, you could just make it pre filled if not tmpInfo and just fill it if tmpInfo |
| 02:56.51 | Kaso | saves doing two allocations on the same variable |
| 02:57.18 | Tasky | so just declare it with the known values, not a bad idea :D |
| 02:58.03 | Kaso | http://ace.pastey.net/86908 |
| 02:58.14 | Kaso | like that |
| 02:58.30 | Tasky | yeah i'm doing that exact thing right now |
| 02:58.31 | Tasky | :) |
| 02:58.37 | Kaso | also local whatever; whatever = something is exactly the same as local whatever = something; |
| 02:58.45 | Kaso | like it compiles to the same bytecode |
| 02:59.41 | Tasky | i'm used to VB, where you can't set values on declaration :X |
| 03:01.53 | Kaso | Oh actually i was wrong, it doesnt compile to exactly the same bytecode, but it does the same thing |
| 03:02.09 | Kaso | im sure i tested that before and it did, perhaps i am thinking of something else.. |
| 03:02.59 | Tasky | meh, right now i'm just shooting for cleanliness and working |
| 03:04.15 | Syzgyn | ping josephy |
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| 03:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The limit of locals per lua file is 100, correct? |
| 03:11.03 | Guillotine | Theres a limit? |
| 03:11.10 | Guillotine | Also, somethings wrong if you're using that many locals |
| 03:11.18 | Guillotine | Well, or you're doing something quite strange |
| 03:11.28 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, counting now I've only got ~20 |
| 03:12.34 | Guillotine | Can you still not promote someone to Arena leader while they're offline? |
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| 03:18.30 | Tasky | someone bored can pick apart http://ace.pastey.net/86910 |
| 03:18.47 | Tasky | it won't output a blessed thing :\ and i don't know if its tracking anymore |
| 03:22.47 | Kaso | ScytheBlade1 the limit is 200 locals per block i believe |
| 03:23.22 | ScytheBlade1 | "per block" :) |
| 03:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Me like |
| 03:23.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Thanks Kaso |
| 03:24.05 | Kaso | well, that waterfalls, so a function cant have 200 locals then you make an if block with another 200 variables if you know what i mean |
| 03:26.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 03:28.48 | Kaso | Tasky, all those object type constants are already globals you dont need to re-declare them |
| 03:29.07 | Kaso | if you want them local for speed reasons do stuff like "local COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE = COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_MINE" |
| 03:29.30 | Iriel | And really, be sure you need to local them for speed reasons |
| 03:29.43 | Iriel | i.e. do that AFTER you check your code for unnecessary function calls or repeated calculations of the same thing |
| 03:29.45 | Iriel | dont start there |
| 03:30.10 | Kaso | indeed |
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| 03:32.14 | testlek | anyone know off hand which MPQ file stores DBFilesClient\Spell.dbc |
| 03:33.31 | durcyn | http://www.sourcepeek.com/wiki/Category:World_of_Warcraft_DBC_Files |
| 03:34.24 | Seerah | Okay, so Tasky isn't the only lua nub that has questions.... I'm working on my mod again (that I was getting help with last night - it works now, btw, but needed to use globals for my voodoo) Anyway.......... :) I would like to save a table of spell ids and be able to check to see if a variable matches one of those spell ids. Can be either code to use, a tutorial from a nice person, or a link to read myself :) |
| 03:34.31 | Seerah | thank you for reading my wall'o'text :) |
| 03:34.46 | testlek | Sweet thanks durcyn |
| 03:35.31 | MaelstromScripti | for a light weight info recording app, is giving them the option to toggle recording of certain things important, or is just giving them the option to show it good? |
| 03:36.02 | Seerah | recording - if it still records it, it still takes up resources, even if that info isn't displayed |
| 03:37.19 | MaelstromScripti | are database access resources for several variables noticable? |
| 03:37.41 | MaelstromScripti | nvm, i'll add the options anyway |
| 03:39.30 | Seerah | ooh! My brain actually worked! if I define my variables as locals with no value yet outside of my function (top of the code) then I can still access them. I R SMRT |
| 03:39.46 | Seerah | and I guess my wall'o'text was too much :( or it's taking a while for someone to find me a link :) |
| 03:43.55 | Tasky | Well Seerah I've hit another problem myself. I'm having...issues reading from my table :\ |
| 03:45.38 | Tasky | http://ace.pastey.net/86912 notes: outTable is actually a collection of tables, storing "name", "damage" and "health" (i.e. tmptable["name"]) however when the output is sent, the variable "name" is nil. any tips? |
| 03:45.51 | durcyn | Seerah: scope is fun =P |
| 03:47.06 | Seerah | ooh, is that a hint, durcyn? :) I'll go searching :) |
| 03:47.44 | durcyn | nah, sounds like you already figured it out. local is your friend. |
| 03:48.16 | Seerah | oh, my issue is this: " I would like to save a table of spell ids and be able to check to see if a variable matches one of those spell ids. Can be either code to use, a tutorial from a nice person, or a link to read myself" |
| 03:49.06 | durcyn | save? how are you collecting them? |
| 03:49.18 | Seerah | ie, polySpellID = {list of ids} if spell == one of those IDs then do stuff |
| 03:49.27 | Seerah | ah, didn't mean save, just have set in my code |
| 03:51.51 | durcyn | on what event? |
| 03:52.38 | Seerah | SPELL_AURA_APPLIED |
| 03:52.58 | durcyn | so you need to register for COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 03:53.07 | Seerah | yes |
| 03:53.17 | durcyn | are you using a framework? |
| 03:53.23 | Seerah | I'm that far, thank you :) Ace3 |
| 03:53.29 | Seerah | (still learning it) |
| 03:53.53 | Seerah | I just want my message to only be announced when it's a polymorph spell |
| 03:53.59 | durcyn | so you'll want to RegisterEvent("CLEU...", <function>) in your OnEnable |
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| 03:55.07 | durcyn | in your event handler function, name the args you want to use, i.e. event, timestamp, eventType, srcGUID, srcName, srcFlags, dstGUID, dstName, dstFlags, spellID |
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| 03:55.25 | Seerah | Thank you, durcyn, but I have all that already :) |
| 03:55.41 | durcyn | then something like if eventType ~= "SPELL_AURA_APPLIED" then return end to only use SAA.. oh |
| 03:55.49 | durcyn | well, how far are you then? =P |
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| 03:56.11 | durcyn | if your match table exists in the addon namespace, you should be able to match on it by table[spellID].whatever |
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| 03:57.24 | Seerah | I save spellID on SPELL_CAST_START and I also save spellID on SPELL_AURA_APPLIED. I have a message announced when they match. (how I'm getting around the nils for srcGUID and destGUID) but I only want it done if I'm casting polymorph |
| 03:58.12 | Seerah | so, I was going to have a table of the spellIDs for the poly spells and check to see if spellID = one in the table |
| 03:58.46 | Seerah | so would that be if spell == table[polySpellID] then message end? |
| 03:59.06 | durcyn | you don't need an ==, just if table[spellID] |
| 03:59.35 | durcyn | if you're relatively confident that AURA fires after CAST, you can set a flag on CAST and unset it on AURA |
| 03:59.56 | durcyn | break on CAST if the flag is set, break on AURA if it's unset, etc |
| 04:00.13 | Tasky | http://ace.pastey.net/86912 any idea why that would output 'Slogger: Name is nil' ? |
| 04:01.22 | Tasky | http://ace.pastey.net/86915 = how the in/out table entries are declared |
| 04:01.25 | Seerah | I'm sorry, durcyn, forgive me... by table do you mean the name of my table or... |
| 04:01.45 | Tasky | yeah |
| 04:01.46 | Tasky | like |
| 04:02.00 | Seerah | so polySpellID[spellID] (where spellID is what's gotten from the combat log) |
| 04:02.01 | Tasky | if polySpellID[spellID] then |
| 04:02.18 | Seerah | thank you :) I'll try that now |
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| 04:03.14 | Tasky | Any help would be much appreciated :D |
| 04:03.33 | Kaso | Tasky, with the first one, you shouldnt really use foreach its deprecated |
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| 04:04.04 | Tasky | im just going by whats on the wiki |
| 04:04.05 | Tasky | :\ |
| 04:04.23 | Kaso | is outTable a number indexed table, or string indexed? |
| 04:04.38 | Tasky | string indexed |
| 04:04.57 | Tasky | using the GUID as keys |
| 04:05.17 | Kaso | http://ace.pastey.net/86916 |
| 04:05.19 | Kaso | try that |
| 04:05.35 | Kaso | where on the wiki was foreach recommended? |
| 04:06.56 | Tasky | wasn't reccomended, just saw it in the table functions list |
| 04:07.05 | Tasky | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_functions#Table_Functions |
| 04:07.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 04:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't use it :) |
| 04:07.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Use pairs() and ipairs() |
| 04:07.24 | Kaso | ill throw a note that its deprecated |
| 04:07.27 | Tasky | ok |
| 04:07.30 | Tasky | duly noted :) |
| 04:07.33 | ScytheBlade1 | for key, value in pairs(table) do stuff() end |
| 04:08.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ipairs() will work if your table is numerically indexes, otherwise, you'll be using pairs() |
| 04:08.38 | ScytheBlade1 | (That's the short version of it) |
| 04:08.55 | Tasky | still Name is nil |
| 04:09.28 | Kaso | then the rows of outTable down have a name value |
| 04:10.02 | Tasky | no: outTable stores other tables |
| 04:10.09 | Tasky | with name, damage, and heal |
| 04:10.26 | Tasky | and its storing correctly, because i'm getting notifys every hit |
| 04:10.45 | Tasky | "Slogger: Updating "..srcName.."'s damage from "..tostring(tmpInfo["damage"]).." to "..tostring(tmpInfo["damage"] + dmg_amount) |
| 04:10.50 | Tasky | works as it should |
| 04:11.05 | Tasky | so the table is being updated |
| 04:11.27 | Tasky | and it fires the Output function once, for one table entry |
| 04:11.48 | Tasky | but it still says name is nil |
| 04:12.02 | Kaso | the only way you'd get name is nil output is if tbl["name"] is nil, and the only way that'd be nil is if a value table of outTable doesnt have a name field |
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| 04:12.22 | Seerah | Okay, so I did if polySpellID[spellID] then self:Print(blah) end but I'm not getting my message in chat when I cast polymorph... http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86917 |
| 04:12.35 | Tasky | but it has a name field, i have no problem using it in the CLEU event |
| 04:12.56 | Kaso | show me how you use in where it works |
| 04:13.14 | bleeter | Legorol: heh, pertaining to our previous convo: Oceanic player of US realm just posted to CSF re: daily rollver bug |
| 04:13.47 | Kaso | Seerah you've done your table wrong |
| 04:14.15 | Kaso | atm your table is polySpellID = {[1]=118,[2]=28272 ... |
| 04:14.38 | Tasky | http://ace.pastey.net/86918 creating/updating the table in Slogger_CombatEvent is fine, but iterating through to output fails. |
| 04:14.53 | Kaso | to use it as a dictionary as you want to you need to do polySpellID={ [118]=true,[28272]=true, etc |
| 04:14.54 | Seerah | aww... now that was something I thought I had remembered to do correctly :) :P |
| 04:15.19 | durcyn | Seerah: yeah, change the table to id = true, |
| 04:15.20 | Seerah | ahhhhh |
| 04:15.21 | Seerah | ty |
| 04:15.33 | durcyn | Seerah: also, you don't need to define playerID inside every event, since that doesn't change |
| 04:15.46 | durcyn | and your 'spell' var isn't local =( |
| 04:16.02 | Kaso | it is, defined at top of file |
| 04:16.07 | durcyn | oh, blah |
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| 04:16.34 | Tasky | nvm, stupid mistake |
| 04:16.34 | Seerah | durcyn: I didn't think was defining playerID in every event - just once |
| 04:16.36 | Tasky | its working |
| 04:16.36 | Shirik|Ecole | Any linux gurus: I need a command that searches a directory for a file ending in *.form, and then counts the number of lines in the related *.java file |
| 04:16.45 | Shirik|Ecole | that is, if there's a file foo.form, check the number of lines in foo.java |
| 04:16.49 | Shirik|Ecole | preferably to total |
| 04:16.55 | durcyn | Seerah: it's in the event handler function, that gets run every time the event calls it |
| 04:17.43 | Seerah | ahh - so you mean put it up top? |
| 04:17.55 | durcyn | outside of that function, yes |
| 04:17.59 | Seerah | okies |
| 04:18.09 | durcyn | that's just nitpicking though, it'll work either way |
| 04:18.28 | Seerah | *nod* |
| 04:18.30 | Seerah | understood :) |
| 04:18.41 | Seerah | I don't mind nitpicking - I'm a nitpicker :P |
| 04:19.07 | durcyn | Shirik|Ecole: uh, find -iname *.form | while read i ; do wc -l `echo $i | sed -e "s/form$/java/g"`;done |
| 04:19.25 | Shirik|Ecole | ok, I didn't know sed |
| 04:20.05 | durcyn | and if there are spaces in the path, you have my sympathy |
| 04:21.53 | Shirik|Ecole | hm |
| 04:21.56 | Shirik|Ecole | it yells at me |
| 04:22.02 | Shirik|Ecole | find: paths must precede expression: ErrorResultPanel.form |
| 04:22.27 | durcyn | oh, blah, there are .form files in cwd, so bash matches asterisk on them |
| 04:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | \* |
| 04:22.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ! |
| 04:23.05 | Shirik|Ecole | <3 |
| 04:23.07 | durcyn | yeah, that. escaping meta characters is fun |
| 04:23.50 | durcyn | Seerah: btw, you could also leave your table as is and do for k,v in ipairs(polySpellID) do if v = spellId then foo |
| 04:24.06 | cogwheel | LFG to try and break http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7366-WowLua.html ... I just uploaded the new and sexeh version we promised for the book :) There are a few things we want to do to polish it, but right now I just need to make sure there aren't any glaring problems |
| 04:24.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I almost have my addon syncing.. all that is left is keeping state over time in relation to the position in the database... and then I wait on a book to appear to teach me how2GUI ;) |
| 04:24.49 | durcyn | cogwheel: svn url? >_> |
| 04:24.50 | Seerah | is one better than the other, durcyn? |
| 04:25.05 | cogwheel | durcyn: no public svn atm |
| 04:25.08 | Kaso | cogwheel changelog doesnt wrap right |
| 04:25.19 | cogwheel | Kaso: i know :( i can't fix it right now |
| 04:25.32 | cogwheel | have to wait for clad|sleep or when i push a new vers |
| 04:25.32 | durcyn | Seerah: eh, lua ricers will tell you ipairs is faster than the table lookup |
| 04:26.26 | cogwheel | also, once Cairenn gets a commercial break the screenshot should be updated :P |
| 04:26.33 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 04:26.39 | Seerah | my brain usually melts when it looks at code with more advanced stuff in it like that, durcyn ;) |
| 04:26.52 | Cairenn | commercial break nothing, game over |
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| 04:33.57 | Cairenn | updated screenshot: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw13399.png |
| 04:35.25 | Kaso | Oh sweet, i like the error messages |
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| 04:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | bleeter: " The advantage is that a Multiboxer controlling 5 toons has 10 sets of eyes to monitor all toons and react in an instant when things go sour. " hahahahaha win |
| 04:46.39 | Seerah | okay, durcyn... I did it the k,v way ( http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86920-2uiw ) but now I don't get my Print message (whereas I did before) Did I do it correctly? |
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| 04:47.55 | durcyn | Seerah: you still have =true, in your tables =P |
| 04:48.14 | durcyn | Seerah: in which case you'd want for k in pairs(polySpellID) do if k = spellID then foo |
| 04:48.26 | Kaso | wait, why not do the table like a dictionary ? |
| 04:48.43 | Seerah | but you said I could leave my table as is and do it that way - I copy-pasted :P |
| 04:48.46 | Seerah | (what you said to do) |
| 04:49.04 | Seerah | ohh... you meant same as it was before |
| 04:49.04 | Kaso | Seerah, also you're getting your case mixed up with spellId and spellID |
| 04:49.18 | Kaso | but durcyn whats the motivation for doing it that way? |
| 04:49.56 | durcyn | like i said, lua ricers will tell you that ipairs() is faster than a direct table lookup.. i don't have numbers handy, so use whichever you prefer |
| 04:50.06 | Seerah | oops, I did have a d instead of a D in there |
| 04:50.07 | Kaso | really? hmm |
| 04:50.21 | Kaso | that cant be right... can it? |
| 04:51.16 | Seerah | the first way I had it seemed fast just soloing - but I figured I'd change it to in pairs for raiding |
| 04:51.22 | Kaso | table lookup is O(n) wheras a table lookup is a hash table type thing which is worst case O(n) best case O(1) |
| 04:51.49 | Kaso | s/table lookup is/itterating over the table is/ |
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| 04:58.52 | Seerah | thank you, durcyn, Kaso, and Tasky - what I have so far is in working order :D |
| 04:59.06 | Kaso | http://pastey.net/86922 |
| 04:59.10 | Seerah | and I'm off to bed - will tweak more with it tomorrow :) |
| 04:59.36 | Kaso | doing table lookup is better than itterating over, but a factor of 2 in best case and 12 in worst case |
| 05:00.51 | Seerah | does that mean I should go back to the way I had it before? with polySpellID[spellID]? |
| 05:01.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Seerah: with something that small, it doesn't matter :) |
| 05:01.28 | Seerah | okies, then I won't worry about it :) |
| 05:01.37 | Seerah | thanks, and good night :) |
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| 05:02.05 | Kaso | yah, its not a big concern, even if you were doing 10 million calls i'd only take like on average 4-5 sec |
| 05:02.09 | Kaso | and hes gone so :< |
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| 05:03.41 | Nom- | Druid is level 69.25 now :D |
| 05:03.43 | Nom- | So close :D |
| 05:04.19 | bleeter | druids are cool |
| 05:04.25 | Nom- | Indeed. |
| 05:04.30 | Nom- | I can't wait to go resto tbh |
| 05:04.46 | bleeter | Since I got mine to 70, I have to force myself to play any of my other toons |
| 05:04.47 | Nom- | Although I think I might stay resto long enough to finish all the quests |
| 05:04.56 | Nom- | So I can go get epic mount |
| 05:05.06 | Nom- | Already got 1500g in the bank, so I've got a good head start |
| 05:05.27 | bleeter | Grind your dailies for a few days, you'll get it real quick |
| 05:05.33 | bleeter | particularly if you have more than 1 70 |
| 05:05.41 | Nom- | I can probably finish questing Netherstorm and Shadowmoon by the weekend |
| 05:05.45 | Nom- | Minus the group quests |
| 05:05.45 | bleeter | SSO made it real easy |
| 05:06.02 | bleeter | yeah, and the XP/Gold conversion too hehe |
| 05:06.18 | bleeter | my priest dinged in Zanga, he's holy now... lord knows how long til I get back to questing with him |
| 05:06.19 | Nom- | Yeah, that's the best way to get gold imo... quest out the zones first |
| 05:06.34 | Nom- | You can make easily 200g an hour just doing quests |
| 05:06.58 | Nom- | I'm almost tempted to dungeon my way to 70 so I have more quests to get gold from :D |
| 05:08.03 | bleeter | my priest was shadow from 1 to 62, lived in Azeroth. Went Outland instancing as holy at 62, gave up at 65 'coz 65-70 groups tended to want 70 healers. SO, yeah, respecced, beat up Hellfire and Zanga, dinged, now back holy |
| 05:08.41 | Nom- | You stayed in Azeroth until lvl 62 ? |
| 05:09.02 | Nom- | I *love* getting into Outland |
| 05:09.08 | Nom- | I went at level 58.5 on my druid :D |
| 05:09.27 | Nom- | I was doing Ramparts by level 59 |
| 05:10.02 | bleeter | yup, was fully rested. figured I'd get the XP bonus from rested in Azeroth. I still managed to avoid Silithus, EPL, Burning Steppes |
| 05:10.12 | Kaso | I cant understand what drives people to spec holy whilst leveling |
| 05:10.37 | Kaso | imo if you're not spending 80% of your time in instances you should be damage spec |
| 05:11.29 | Nom- | I've seen some people do holy from level 10 all the way to 60 |
| 05:11.38 | Nom- | They do nothing with their character except instances |
| 05:12.43 | Kaso | and unless theyve got a premade group that can make constant instances happen i bet they spend 50% of their time trying to get groups |
| 05:13.02 | Tekkub | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1 <---- lawl |
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| 05:13.23 | Nom- | epic ? |
| 05:28.52 | Guillotine | Tekkub: Pretty sure thats AY's |
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| 06:10.24 | Nom- | wow... 1GB memory on a video card |
| 06:10.55 | Tem | for a nominal fee |
| 06:10.58 | Nom- | so tempting... i could go get one right now |
| 06:11.10 | Zootfizzle | Resist! |
| 06:11.17 | Zootfizzle | It's probably a pointless number for you! |
| 06:11.19 | zenzio | checks some in-depth reviews first |
| 06:12.09 | zenzio | I remember how 320 MB (or wahtever it was) cards were found slower than 256 MB ones... might not be the case for the 1 GB one |
| 06:12.27 | Nom- | hmm no charts for the 9xxx series yet |
| 06:12.29 | Nom- | *sigh* |
| 06:20.02 | Shirik|zZz | Zootfizzle: Don't say such lies! |
| 06:20.08 | Shirik|zZz | Obviously 1GB is extremely important to have |
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| 06:22.23 | Zootfizzle | Sorry, sorry! |
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| 06:25.16 | Tem | Fear is the mind kkkkkkiller |
| 06:28.02 | Guillotine | the little death the brings total obliteration? |
| 06:28.48 | Nom- | hmm what's a good site for video card rankings |
| 06:28.57 | Nom- | if toms hardware hasn't ranked them yet :P |
| 06:29.12 | Zootfizzle | Do you guys think Bill Gates resigned his position at Microsoft because he felt the antitrust proceedings against his company represented a devaluing of his innovations by society ala "Atlas Shrugged"? |
| 06:29.39 | Nom- | Bill Gates resigned ? |
| 06:30.02 | durcyn | as chairman, a while ago. that's where chairboy came from. |
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| 06:31.49 | Nom- | Microsoft doesn't seem to think he's resigned... |
| 06:31.52 | Nom- | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/bod/default.mspx |
| 06:32.30 | durcyn | oh, right. CEO position is what I was thinking of. |
| 06:32.59 | Nom- | oh... as of july 2008 |
| 06:33.00 | Nom- | lol |
| 06:33.10 | Nom- | As of July 2008, Gates will transition from his day-to-day role as Chief Software Architect and Chairman of Microsoft to just being the Chairman. |
| 06:33.41 | Nom- | He probably just thinks he's done all he can do |
| 06:33.59 | Nom- | Or wants to spend more time having a life... |
| 06:34.12 | Tem | same question |
| 06:34.12 | Tem | Bill Gates resigned? |
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| 06:34.28 | nevcairiel | from being a software architect to only being chairman |
| 06:34.45 | Nom- | Read what I pasted :p |
| 06:34.49 | Nom- | In July, 2008, Gates will switch to working part-time for Microsoft in his new role, and will work full-time for the health-and-education foundation he founded with his wife, Melinda. |
| 06:34.59 | Nom- | There's your answer... |
| 06:35.13 | nevcairiel | his wife made him do it |
| 06:35.29 | ramoz | evul wimenz! |
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| 06:45.34 | cogwheel | I love how the forums completely fail at "find posts by this user" now... |
| 06:45.44 | Tekkub | now? |
| 06:45.56 | Tekkub | it's like a gamble... *will search work today* |
| 06:46.14 | Tekkub | 1.5% droprate |
| 06:47.08 | cogwheel | I've always been able to click on my name in the login box to see my recent posts... then after the forum maintenance last week it all went to shit |
| 06:47.48 | Tekkub | *snicker* "went to" .... I've always thought the o,boards were shit... but then I only go there for one thread |
| 06:47.58 | Tem | I wonder what the deal is there |
| 06:48.12 | cogwheel | Tekkub: suggestions? :P |
| 06:48.14 | Tekkub | and only cause someone won't put that shit on the wiki /angry Iriel |
| 06:48.17 | Tem | blizzard forums are pretty notorious for being buggy |
| 06:48.24 | Tekkub | no cogs, Changes |
| 06:48.25 | Tem | I wonder if it's the sheer load |
| 06:48.36 | Tekkub | It's probably load, yes |
| 06:48.44 | Tekkub | it's 99.99999% noise |
| 06:48.58 | Tekkub | that much white noise will drive anyone mad |
| 06:49.08 | cogwheel | it seems like they just turned something off to sidestep the problem until they can fix it |
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| 06:52.34 | Shirik | You can filter out noise |
| 06:52.42 | Shirik | just use a band-pass filter |
| 06:52.53 | Tekkub | blue-post filter |
| 06:53.19 | Shirik | determine the frequency(s) of the noise and then construct a filter using the correct impedances: Zc = 1/jwC, ZL=jwL |
| 06:53.41 | Shirik | ensure Z -> inf for w=noise |
| 06:54.02 | Shirik | sorry, EE test today |
| 06:54.51 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:58.57 | Shirik | night all |
| 06:59.05 | Shirik|zZz | Cairenn!!! |
| 06:59.10 | Shirik|zZz | What happened to your normal sleep schedule! |
| 06:59.21 | Shirik|zZz | :( You were doing so well |
| 06:59.40 | Shirik|zZz | anyway, night |
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| 08:06.48 | [Liq] | Hi everyone :-) |
| 08:09.21 | Zootfizzle | Hello! |
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| 08:23.06 | wereHams1er | oops, wrong channel |
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| 08:36.45 | Nom- | meh forum login is broken |
| 08:36.46 | Nom- | again |
| 08:37.02 | Nom- | I'm amazed when things on the blizz site actually work |
| 08:40.07 | leethal | I wonder how they manage to create an awesome game, and then totally fucked up webapps |
| 08:40.17 | leethal | s/an awesome game/awesome games |
| 08:40.51 | Nom- | lol just reading through the epic thread about the guy who's nephew, no son, no neighbour, no friend transferred him to a new realm |
| 08:41.39 | Nom- | Despite the absurdly unbelievable story, i'm surprised noone pointed out that the default settings for Firefox allow you to view the plain text saved passwords |
| 08:41.41 | wereHamster | link? |
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| 08:41.54 | Nom- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6214101970&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 08:42.06 | Guest955 | hi |
| 08:42.08 | Nom- | (He's claiming that they used a Firefox saved password) |
| 08:42.10 | Nom- | HAI, ASL? |
| 08:42.31 | Guest955 | Does Cosmos atomaticly update addons??? |
| 08:43.01 | Nom- | People still use that? |
| 08:43.01 | Cairenn | well, you have to run the patcher .... |
| 08:43.43 | Guest955 | "<Cairenn> well, you have to run the patcher ...." is that the patch Cosmos button |
| 08:43.44 | leethal | honestly, allow PvE => PvP transfers |
| 08:44.00 | Drundia | at a cost of experience wipe |
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| 08:44.08 | Cairenn | Nom-: it's still actually one of the top "compilations" out there |
| 08:44.19 | Nom- | Really? |
| 08:44.20 | Cairenn | Guest995: yes |
| 08:44.23 | Cairenn | Nom-: yes |
| 08:44.24 | Nom- | hmm |
| 08:44.43 | Nom- | I've been rolling my own for so long |
| 08:44.49 | Nom- | :D |
| 08:45.18 | Cairenn | it was the first, and because it's so integrated to work smoothly together, plus is "easy" for users |
| 08:45.28 | Cairenn | yeah, it's still huge |
| 08:45.45 | Cairenn | lot of people mock it, but /shrug |
| 08:45.53 | Cairenn | remember, I watched it from day 1 |
| 08:46.03 | Drundia | Cosmos is indeed very convenient to update. And no one forces anyone to use all of its addons :) |
| 08:46.11 | Nom- | It was the first addon pack thing I ever used |
| 08:46.18 | Cairenn | Drundia: yup |
| 08:46.24 | Nom- | Then I quickly moved onto rolling my own |
| 08:46.51 | Nom- | Might give it a go again tho... it'd be nice to not have to manually stuff around with all the UI elements, and I need to redo my UI for my Druid anyway :D |
| 08:46.58 | Cairenn | but for starting out, or if you just want the convenience without the work ... why not, right? |
| 08:47.06 | Nom- | I suffer from UI clutter now |
| 08:47.18 | Nom- | I've decided all these things are must have, and i've run out of room again |
| 08:47.27 | Nom- | That's after going from a normal screen to widescreen |
| 08:49.02 | Nom- | Also one (or more) of my addons is killing my framerate |
| 08:49.06 | Drundia | Scale WorldFrame and UI down. |
| 08:49.07 | Nom- | I can't be bothered working out which one XD |
| 08:49.34 | Nom- | already are drun |
| 08:49.46 | Nom- | I run on something like .8 or .75 |
| 08:49.54 | Drundia | Scale them more! |
| 08:50.01 | Nom- | That's at 1680 x 1050 resolution :P |
| 08:51.38 | Drundia | It's just 20% wider UI space. But higher resolution lets you scale down more without having stuff too blurred. |
| 08:51.50 | Elkano | .64 @ 1680x1050 ^^ |
| 08:51.58 | Drundia | well, wider than good old 4:3 ratio |
| 08:52.06 | Elkano | 16:10 actually |
| 08:52.23 | Drundia | 16:10 = 1.2 * 4:3 |
| 08:53.27 | Nom- | yeah most of my ui elements are as small as i'm prepared for them to be tho |
| 08:53.41 | Nom- | I run chat windows, for instance, on 9 pt at that resolution and scale |
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| 08:54.04 | Nom- | any smaller and they might as well be in egyptian heiroglyphs, coz i won't be able to see them |
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| 09:31.12 | AbsoRayne | -_- |
| 09:31.21 | Jinivus | Hmmm |
| 09:31.21 | AbsoRayne | how do people fail miserably at re-naming folders? |
| 09:31.39 | Tem | AbsoRayne, compilations are fail |
| 09:31.47 | Tem | giant boxes of fail |
| 09:31.56 | AbsoRayne | Excuse me for sharing? |
| 09:32.07 | AbsoRayne | Geez if I get the request, why deny it. |
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| 10:19.51 | bleetah | I love 503's |
| 10:40.29 | wereHamster | and what about 419's ? |
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| 10:44.59 | ramoz | i love 701 |
| 10:45.05 | ramoz | i mean 501 |
| 10:47.53 | art3mis | i love 137 |
| 10:48.14 | Elkano | wasn't 503 sth like moved permanent? |
| 10:48.59 | durcyn | service unavailable |
| 10:49.21 | durcyn | moved is a 300-series code |
| 10:49.39 | art3mis | oh btw, if anyone wants to work at goldman sachs(in NYC) doing noc/net admin tech crap email me yer resumes art3mis@gmail.com |
| 10:50.04 | Tem | ~lart3mis |
| 10:50.05 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 10:51.54 | Elkano | fits the date ^^ |
| 10:52.14 | Elkano | now burn that witch, too |
| 10:55.11 | art3mis | but i dont weigh the same as a duck |
| 10:56.14 | wereHamster | art3mis, do you work there? |
| 10:56.40 | art3mis | nope, wifey works for a palcement place and they need good people instead of the usual flood of indians |
| 10:56.54 | art3mis | on average theres about 10-15 openings at GS |
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| 11:12.21 | Tem | HA |
| 11:12.29 | Tem | I CRUSHED AN APPLE, FRUIT VENDOR!! |
| 11:12.33 | Tem | THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST |
| 11:13.13 | nOnes | are there any java programmers here capable of making an uploader/downloader? |
| 11:13.31 | nOnes | can i please ask you a few questions? |
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| 11:22.43 | wereHamster | to whoever complained that we use ~asktoask too much, does that qualify for it? |
| 11:25.53 | _rane | i don't this this is exactly a java channel |
| 11:28.08 | art3mis | n0nes go to ui.worldofwar.net im sure they could help you ;) |
| 11:28.25 | art3mis | there might be some legality issues and the occasionaly trojan but.... |
| 11:28.38 | Tem | ~lart3mis |
| 11:28.39 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 11:28.46 | Tem | ~lart art3mis |
| 11:28.46 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, art3mis, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 11:28.56 | wereHamster | a java question is off-topic in this channel, and I would understand if someone answered 'no' if there was a fierce discussion going on about the inner workings of lua in wow. But since this channel is essentially dead at this time, why not ask an off-topic question? it wouldn't be the first time.. |
| 11:28.59 | Tem | is that even their addy nowadays? |
| 11:29.03 | Elkano | trojans? This is SPARTAAA.... ;) |
| 11:29.19 | Tem | wow |
| 11:29.21 | Tem | nice |
| 11:29.27 | Tem | I haven't seen that joke in a year |
| 11:29.41 | Tem | s/a year/15 minutes/ |
| 11:29.44 | Elkano | I didn't even see the movie |
| 11:29.46 | Tem | =P |
| 11:29.51 | Tem | me either >< |
| 11:29.58 | Tem | eh well, bedtime for meh |
| 11:30.15 | art3mis | tem lies! |
| 11:30.27 | art3mis | he's going to bed now to think about that movie before he's too tired |
| 11:30.45 | Elkano | oyasumi nasai Tem. |
| 11:31.15 | Tem|afk | art3mis, actually, I'll probably stream some berserk to my tv |
| 11:31.23 | Tem|afk | and watch that for a good hour before I sleep |
| 11:31.24 | art3mis | pervert |
| 11:31.36 | Tem|afk | gogo 80s anime |
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| 11:36.05 | Elkano | hmm... neither seen nor read Berserk :( |
| 11:40.06 | Tem|afk | it's okay |
| 11:40.22 | Tem|afk | I'm pretty much only watching it because my roommate had it downloaded already |
| 11:40.33 | Tem|afk | and I've been too lazy to get something new lately |
| 11:41.57 | Elkano | try "Chi's sweet home" ;) |
| 11:42.24 | Elkano | (about 3min shorts about a baby neko) |
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| 13:46.57 | Saint-N | neat appearantly playboy is in pacts with youtube veoh break and metacafe |
| 13:48.19 | ralfWORK | eh? |
| 13:48.37 | Saint-N | to stream or advertise teasers or soemthing |
| 13:49.21 | ralfWORK | oh |
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| 14:23.37 | nevcairiel | specially those you would never wish to ever see again? |
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| 14:50.39 | Seerah | good morning Kaelten |
| 14:52.24 | Kaelten | g'morning |
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| 15:01.08 | SpiderBK | hi |
| 15:01.57 | SpiderBK | should the dropdown example on http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_UIDropDownMenu work? |
| 15:11.29 | SpiderBK | in the initialization part, shouldnt there be a frame name and inherit for the dropdown to work? |
| 15:16.49 | SpiderBK | can someone tell me why there is no dropdown menu when clicking the button? |
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| 15:27.33 | SpiderBK | so nobody knows how dropdown menus work? |
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| 15:28.23 | Lopeppeppy | I think everyone who does dropdowns must still be asleep :( |
| 15:28.46 | Saint-N | i know how they work |
| 15:28.54 | Saint-N | but im guessing you're wondering how to make them |
| 15:29.31 | SpiderBK | well i tried the example from wiki but i cant figure out why nothing happens if i click the button:/ |
| 15:30.08 | SpiderBK | do i need to create an extra frame which pops up when clicking or something like that? |
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| 15:33.21 | SpiderBK | i guess its easier to create my own dropdown menu than understandig the existing fuctionality o_O |
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| 15:34.53 | SpiderBK | Saint-N: are you still here? |
| 15:34.54 | wereHamster | SpiderBK, you haven't showed us your code.. |
| 15:34.59 | Saint-N | yup |
| 15:35.10 | Saint-N | pastey what you've done in the topic url |
| 15:35.16 | Saint-N | i'll answer wrong |
| 15:35.20 | Saint-N | and someone will correct me |
| 15:35.24 | Saint-N | and you'll get your answer |
| 15:35.31 | Saint-N | because thats how irc and the internet works |
| 15:35.37 | SpiderBK | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_UIDropDownMenu <-- thats what i tried |
| 15:37.05 | SpiderBK | is there something missing on that page so the button doesent work? |
| 15:37.10 | wereHamster | that is the webpage where you copied the code from. But show use _your_ code that you actually use.. |
| 15:37.40 | SpiderBK | i copied the code to see if it works..... |
| 15:38.17 | wereHamster | cat YourFile.xml >> pastey.net; cat YourFile.lua >> pastey.net; |
| 15:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ ! |
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| 15:41.57 | SpiderBK | xml: http://pastey.net/86938 lua: http://pastey.net/86939 |
| 15:44.15 | wereHamster | >>> info.func = DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("function") |
| 15:44.42 | wereHamster | you are assigning the _return value_ of DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("function") to info.func! |
| 15:45.10 | wereHamster | :AddMessage() most likely returns nil, so you are essentially doing info.func = nil; |
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| 15:48.38 | SpiderBK | so thats why nothing hapens when i click the button? |
| 15:48.57 | wereHamster | no, but that is one of the mistakes in your code |
| 15:49.17 | Saint-N | the code examples on the wiki are just that examples |
| 15:49.29 | Saint-N | they sort of expect that you can tailor and use them properly within other code |
| 15:50.57 | Saint-N | >>> http://pastey.net/86939 |
| 15:51.03 | SpiderBK | even if i put an DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("test") in the OnClick function nothing happens when clicking the button |
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| 15:51.26 | wereHamster | SpiderBK, did you read PIL ? |
| 15:51.45 | SpiderBK | PIL? |
| 15:51.50 | wereHamster | ~pil |
| 15:51.50 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 15:52.13 | Bela|work | anyone know anything about CombatLog_Object_IsA and CombatLog_Object_IsAll in 2.4.2? |
| 15:52.23 | Polarina | Bela|work: They are gone. |
| 15:52.33 | Bela|work | theya re still in use in their code |
| 15:52.45 | wereHamster | it's been a long time since I worked with wow xml, but doesn't each frame has to be anchored somewhere? |
| 15:52.57 | Polarina | Bela|work: Their code is broken then. |
| 15:53.04 | Bela|work | why would they dump it? |
| 15:53.09 | SpiderBK | why do people always ask if i written that, im no programmer and have a bit of a hard time learning from such theoretical things.... |
| 15:53.19 | wereHamster | your button 'dist3UnitSelectionDropdownButton' isn't anchored anywhere, chances are it's not being displayed |
| 15:53.38 | SpiderBK | hm |
| 15:53.53 | wereHamster | SpiderBK, you are clicking the 'select unit' text, right? |
| 15:54.10 | SpiderBK | no |
| 15:54.21 | SpiderBK | the arrow near the box |
| 15:54.47 | wereHamster | why would there be an arrow.. |
| 15:55.21 | SpiderBK | because thats the symbol on the dropdown? |
| 15:55.31 | Bela|work | ahh well, time to duplicate the code myself |
| 15:55.39 | SpiderBK | let me show you a picture... |
| 15:56.13 | Polarina | Bela|work: Also, the Blizzard's implementation was horribly unoptimised. |
| 15:56.42 | SpiderBK | http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=menuwb8.jpg |
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| 15:58.17 | SpiderBK | you see the dropdown box is there, but nothing happens when clicking it |
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| 15:59.22 | wereHamster | SpiderBK, does the down arrow highlight when you move the mouse over it? |
| 15:59.29 | SpiderBK | yes |
| 15:59.45 | SpiderBK | there is also a sound when i click it |
| 16:00.08 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: 0.4.2.8209: Interface/AddOns/Blizzard_CombatLog/Blizzard_CombatLog.lua:347: local CombatLog_Object_IsA = CombatLog_Object_IsA --[[ 'CombatLog_Object_IsA' is no longer among us. :) ]] |
| 16:02.20 | wereHamster | SpiderBK, sorry, don't know then |
| 16:03.11 | SpiderBK | wereHamster: there should be a dropdown window by default or do i need to create that? |
| 16:03.44 | wereHamster | the window should appear automatically.. |
| 16:04.20 | wereHamster | take a look at other addons that use dropdown menus |
| 16:07.06 | schnoggo | is your OnClick being registered? Is it called in an XML Frame or registered in your code? |
| 16:07.38 | SpiderBK | in the xml |
| 16:13.44 | wereHamster | for those from the US, your taxes at work: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/30/1359209 |
| 16:14.08 | nevcairiel | i thought their taxes work in iraq |
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| 16:14.48 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, sand = vacation, right? |
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| 16:15.29 | nevcairiel | so the taxes pay vacations in iraq |
| 16:15.39 | nevcairiel | man must be nice to be american |
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| 16:23.18 | sag_ich_nicht | anyone want to help me with mystery taint? :( |
| 16:23.46 | sag_ich_nicht | (no shotgun debugging/50:50 disabling, that takes longer than tracing the taint and unlike 50:50 disabling, i might actually learn something from it) |
| 16:24.57 | Zootfizzle | I do! |
| 16:24.58 | cog|work | /taintlog 2 |
| 16:25.01 | Zootfizzle | Pastey stuff somewhere |
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| 16:25.14 | cog|work | (or is it /console taintlog 2 |
| 16:25.43 | sag_ich_nicht | cog|work: console is correct |
| 16:25.59 | sag_ich_nicht | Zootfizzle: hurray |
| 16:27.42 | sag_ich_nicht | Zootfizzle: http://pastey.net/86941 |
| 16:28.16 | sag_ich_nicht | sure, it blames LibRock-1.0, but that's not where it's coming from apparently. >.> |
| 16:28.42 | cog|work | so disable librock and see what it blames... |
| 16:29.01 | cog|work | then then disable the new blame and see if it still happens... rinse and repeat |
| 16:29.18 | sag_ich_nicht | yeah i did that. too bad it sometimes takes quite a while for it to popup |
| 16:29.33 | Zootfizzle | Chinchilla is your addon? |
| 16:29.56 | sag_ich_nicht | no, ckknight's, i just use it |
| 16:30.33 | Zootfizzle | You're using the latest version I assume? |
| 16:30.36 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 16:31.06 | Zootfizzle | kk, I'll take a deeper look when I get to work. |
| 16:31.28 | Zootfizzle | You should send him an e-mail or something and make him post in the taint thread if this hasn't already been posted ;) |
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| 16:33.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Zootfizzle: no US account, UI forums in europe are terrible, i didn't call it mystery taint for no reason... i think you'll see why when you take a deeper look, as i can't find the proper words to explain what i mean right now |
| 16:33.47 | Zootfizzle | ckknight doesn't have a forum account in the US either? |
| 16:33.54 | ckknight | sure I do |
| 16:33.57 | sag_ich_nicht | he SHOULD |
| 16:34.12 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: take a look at the pastey, i doubt chinchilla is to be blamed for it |
| 16:34.33 | sag_ich_nicht | ( http://pastey.net/86941 so you don't have to scroll ) |
| 16:34.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 16:35.42 | sag_ich_nicht | cut out the messages from librock/chinchilla and that's what i get when i disable chinchilla. |
| 16:36.07 | sag_ich_nicht | at some point it starts blaming doublewide |
| 16:36.17 | sag_ich_nicht | when i disabled all other addons being blamed |
| 16:36.41 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT it's not doublewide apparently |
| 16:37.07 | Zootfizzle | Can you pastey a list of the addons you have running as well please? I don't care if you disable them or whatever |
| 16:37.33 | sag_ich_nicht | sure, hold on, i'll have to cut out the ones i have permadisabled :P |
| 16:37.53 | Zootfizzle | This looks like execution taint and not any kinda value taint |
| 16:40.28 | cncfanatics | damn, makefiles are such messy things to write by hand |
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| 16:45.48 | Kaelten | anyone running a french client? |
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| 16:46.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Zootfizzle: http://pastey.net/86942 |
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| 16:48.21 | sag_ich_nicht | nvm that here: http://pastey.net/86943-a5ig there were some accidentially left in that are disabled/gone |
| 16:48.22 | sag_ich_nicht | ^^ |
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| 16:54.33 | Lopeppeppy | It's kind of sad that I'm thinking of packing up my laptop to sit outdoors because it would be warmer out there.... |
| 16:54.35 | Nom- | Ugh. |
| 16:54.43 | Nom- | I think Bloodlust is a lost cause for the rest of the night... |
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| 16:57.12 | Nom- | Which is rather painful |
| 16:57.17 | Nom- | My druid is at 96% |
| 16:57.33 | Nom- | That's like at most 10-15 mins of grinding to ding 70 |
| 17:03.25 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 17:03.39 | sag_ich_nicht | apparently i did the 16th highest paladin dps on karathress worldwide |
| 17:03.55 | Saint-N | you hit it twice? |
| 17:04.14 | sag_ich_nicht | no, http://www.wwsscoreboard.com :P |
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| 17:04.29 | Saint-N | heh |
| 17:04.32 | Saint-N | hi teknub |
| 17:05.13 | sag_ich_nicht | interestingly enough, the strongest horde raid from my server did the highest brutallus dps |
| 17:05.32 | Saint-N | thats cuz horde is ebtter |
| 17:05.34 | Saint-N | better |
| 17:05.42 | Saint-N | we get groms axe |
| 17:05.47 | Saint-N | and nothing beats that ;) |
| 17:06.29 | Saint-N | it kills demons in a single hit |
| 17:06.44 | Saint-N | and amkes them blow up |
| 17:06.46 | Saint-N | makes |
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| 17:26.44 | Shirik|zZz | wwsscoreboard huh? |
| 17:26.48 | Shirik|zZz | That's a good way to get sued |
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| 17:27.34 | batrick | kick someone in the fase |
| 17:27.40 | batrick | batbot: amirite? |
| 17:27.41 | batbot | batrick, Probably. |
| 17:27.47 | Lopeppeppy | Love the leveling service advertisement, personally. |
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| 17:31.38 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:26] <@Shirik|zZz> That's a good way to get sued <--why |
| 17:32.07 | Shirik|zZz | do you think they asked? |
| 17:32.38 | durcyn | yes. |
| 17:32.40 | Shirik|zZz | I don't know why everyone seems to think "oh it's on the internet, it must be free for the taking!" |
| 17:33.35 | Kaso | ^^ Whats this all about? |
| 17:35.01 | Guillotine | So I've decided to rewrite Panda (my WoW Purl port), but have to change the name since Tekkub now has a Panda. I'm torn between "Emurald", "Rooby", and "Rubee". Any other votes/other suggestions? |
| 17:35.28 | Tekkub | just call it purl :P |
| 17:35.32 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.12 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.21 | Guillotine | Eh, wouldn't feel right naming it 'purl' |
| 17:37.33 | Shirik|zZz | Slightly graphic, but very interesting: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7354458.stm |
| 17:37.36 | Guillotine | I mean, thats T Riker's |
| 17:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | If not panda, why not koala? |
| 17:37.55 | Tasky | pearl? |
| 17:38.32 | dylanm | Name it uh clam. |
| 17:38.43 | Guillotine | Hmm, koala works if its not being used |
| 17:41.52 | End | Pearl! |
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| 17:43.38 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp0ccQVy1og |
| 17:43.41 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 17:44.46 | Drundia | Guillotine, since it's written in Lua, call it Looa! |
| 17:45.25 | Guillotine | lol |
| 17:45.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:46.37 | Shirik | please whatever you do |
| 17:46.46 | Shirik | make it something of a decent pronouncable and spellable size |
| 17:46.48 | Shirik | unlike WoWLuaircBot |
| 17:47.00 | Shirik | whom I still call thraebot because it's easier to say in my head |
| 17:47.15 | Guillotine | haha |
| 17:47.23 | Guillotine | Well, it has a customizable name |
| 17:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | Then I will call it Shiela, the Lady in the Tank. |
| 17:47.53 | Guillotine | lol |
| 17:48.24 | Guillotine | Alright, so I have a name. That's enough work on that project for today |
| 17:49.33 | Lopeppeppy | Lazy butt. |
| 17:49.44 | Syzgyn | Whats a good addon to manage your other addons? |
| 17:49.48 | Lopeppeppy | I did all your work! Are you coming by to train my sheeples now? |
| 17:51.38 | Guillotine | Syzgyn: I like ACP |
| 17:51.45 | Guillotine | haha, http://www.xkcdb.com/?1429 |
| 17:51.58 | Guillotine | bash+xkcd=win=xkcdb.com |
| 17:52.20 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 17:53.02 | Syzgyn | And thanks Guillotine, I had forgotten what that one was called |
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| 17:56.14 | Polarina | What happened to the function to scan the Auction House in one go? |
| 17:58.28 | Guillotine | Polarina: uhhhhhh....? |
| 17:58.45 | Polarina | Guillotine: Auctioneer still doesn't use it. |
| 17:58.45 | Guillotine | It knit you a sweater? |
| 17:59.20 | Guillotine | Ah, so you're complaining about Auctioneer not the function to scan the auction house in one go? |
| 17:59.26 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.34 | Polarina | No, I thought it was still broken since it still doesn't use it. |
| 17:59.43 | Guillotine | no, pretty sure it works |
| 18:00.40 | cog|work | Polarina: you have to use a command. it doesn't just do it automatically |
| 18:00.49 | cog|work | in auc advanced it's /aadv getall |
| 18:01.21 | Polarina | cog|work: o.O Cool. |
| 18:01.45 | cog|work | but it doesn't really work right now... there are some bugs with the server/client code that will d/c you somewhere between occasionally and often |
| 18:01.53 | cog|work | (blizz bugs) |
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| 18:04.50 | Guillotine | So, any guesses on what the big diablo3 announcement is for tomorrow? |
| 18:05.32 | Guillotine | I'm guessing whatever it is, its not worth the hype its being given |
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| 18:06.05 | Syzgyn | Guillotine: Link? |
| 18:06.13 | dylanm | YOU CAN EARN BADGES IT'LL BE GREAT |
| 18:06.37 | Guillotine | Eh, its been all over. People are linking to www.diablo3.com that has had a countdown timer to tomorrow for about 3 weeks |
| 18:06.51 | Syzgyn | ohh |
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| 18:11.46 | cog|work | maybe blizzard is taking their domain name? |
| 18:11.49 | cog|work | ;) |
| 18:12.50 | Guillotine | Possible |
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| 18:16.50 | Bela|work | maybe its a countdown to when they post saying "We TRICKSED U!" |
| 18:19.19 | Guillotine | lol |
| 18:19.24 | Guillotine | that would be awesome |
| 18:21.14 | Guillotine | top left |
| 18:21.17 | Guillotine | rather small |
| 18:21.19 | Esamynn | jeez |
| 18:21.22 | Guillotine | theres a big one posted on some other websites |
| 18:21.25 | Esamynn | no kidding, I completely missed it |
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| 18:21.37 | Guillotine | other sites are making more of a deal about it than diablo3.com themselves |
| 18:21.42 | Esamynn | lol |
| 18:21.51 | Osagasu | eh? |
| 18:22.02 | Fisker- | cog|work |
| 18:22.09 | Fisker- | They already ruled out anything cool |
| 18:22.10 | cog|work | NO U |
| 18:22.17 | Fisker- | so i'm counting on "We TRICKSED U" |
| 18:22.25 | Osagasu | ... |
| 18:23.02 | cog|work | i think if blizzard takes the diablo3.com domain it would be cool... |
| 18:23.12 | cog|work | and still not "an official announcement of Diablo 3" |
| 18:23.43 | Fisker- | it's |
| 18:23.49 | Fisker- | not |
| 18:24.02 | Fisker- | First of all it would be the official announcement of Diablo 3, whether or not they made a press release of it |
| 18:24.20 | Fisker- | Also he rules out that in his "What's it's not"-FAQ |
| 18:24.25 | Fisker- | rules it out* |
| 18:25.04 | Esamynn | how about it's: Blizzard takes over diablo3.com in order to announce diablo 3? 8) |
| 18:25.12 | Esamynn | not F'ing likely ;) |
| 18:25.18 | Fisker- | Not gonna happen |
| 18:25.24 | Fisker- | unless he was lying |
| 18:25.36 | Esamynn | true |
| 18:25.38 | cog|work | "First of all it would be the official announcement of Diablo 3, whether or not they made a press release of it" |
| 18:25.40 | cog|work | O.o |
| 18:26.34 | cog|work | ^ nonsensical imo |
| 18:26.38 | Fisker- | nevers |
| 18:26.49 | Esamynn | would it be sick and disturbing of me to use this http://starcraft2.com/art.xml?s=79 as an avatar? |
| 18:26.55 | Fisker- | They wouldn't be buying it at this time unless they had a reason for it |
| 18:27.08 | Osagasu | A lot of people already fo, Fisker-. |
| 18:27.11 | Osagasu | **do |
| 18:28.33 | Osagasu | That said, it doesn't matter what it is. |
| 18:29.13 | Osagasu | For all we know they just did it to give us hope |
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| 18:38.25 | batrick | !lua ("0x%x"):format(1e8*100e-6*.05-2) |
| 18:38.25 | batbot | batrick: > 0x1f2 |
| 18:41.54 | Syzgyn | Is there a command to release your spirit if you die? like if the release box disappears? |
| 18:42.11 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.11 | haste | /run RepopMe() |
| 18:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I think |
| 18:42.29 | Syzgyn | Thanks :) |
| 18:42.40 | [melin] | that WoW lua book on amazon |
| 18:43.22 | [melin] | it sells for $46.67 in Sweden |
| 18:43.27 | Syzgyn | ouch! |
| 18:44.42 | [melin] | its 26.39 on Amazon :P |
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| 18:52.52 | kergoth | hrm, i wish msbt had as many animation styles as parrot |
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| 18:53.52 | Antiarc | you could probably hack them in |
| 18:54.12 | Antiarc | I wrote the "action" animation style for Parrot, so you could steal that >_> |
| 18:55.42 | nevcairiel | i'm happy with the msbt default animation |
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| 19:01.49 | Abby-Off | Hey guys would it be possible to get the player name instead of the raidID? |
| 19:02.06 | Abby-Off | local tarname = tarframe:GetAttribute("unit") button1:SetAttribute("unit", tarname) //using this now which gets raidID |
| 19:03.51 | Esamynn | UnitName("unit") |
| 19:04.36 | Polarina | Esamynn: That is prone to failure. |
| 19:04.46 | Esamynn | how so? |
| 19:05.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Abby-Off: the long and short of it, is if you want a unit name back from Get(), then you put the unit name in using Set() |
| 19:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Abby-Off: Or, you could do UnitName(tarframe:GetAttribute("unit")) |
| 19:05.32 | Polarina | If there's a object, pet, player or anything targetable, that starts with "raid", it can fail. |
| 19:05.57 | Esamynn | Polarina: oh come off it, we know about the unit id bug |
| 19:06.02 | Guillotine | so is the nature of unit ids |
| 19:06.04 | Guillotine | nothing we can do about it |
| 19:06.07 | Esamynn | stop bein dense Polarina |
| 19:06.59 | Abby-Off | :P |
| 19:07.17 | Abby-Off | well i tought it be better to target on player name then raidID |
| 19:07.26 | Abby-Off | i just had it change mid fight dunno why |
| 19:07.36 | Esamynn | either one should work |
| 19:07.39 | Abby-Off | aah works like a charm |
| 19:07.42 | Abby-Off | thanks guys |
| 19:08.00 | Esamynn | a full name "should" work the same as a unit id, assuming one of your valid unit ids maps to that name |
| 19:08.45 | Abby-Off | aa will see what happens ;) |
| 19:08.50 | Abby-Off | on with kara |
| 19:08.55 | Abby-Off | bye bye and thanks again |
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| 19:19.52 | AbsoRayne | @_@ |
| 19:21.00 | AbsoRayne | |Jelly|: Boo? |
| 19:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | So |
| 19:28.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Wake up --> take lortab! |
| 19:28.08 | ScytheBlade1 | It's a winning strategy |
| 19:28.37 | Arcaia | anyone else here a rogue theorycrafter? |
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| 19:58.57 | valami | Hi! |
| 19:58.58 | SpiderBK | i have a question about dropdown menus, i created one and added some buttons to it, but when i click a button how do i know which one it is? o_O |
| 19:59.39 | valami | Anybody knows how can I enable wow's ingame voice chat? The voice tab isn't there, and it says Sound instead of Sound/Voice in the menu. |
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| 20:01.10 | valami | I have a working mic and my wow version is 2.4.1 |
| 20:04.00 | SpiderBK | sounds like its not activated on your server, have you asked someone else from your server if he has the option? |
| 20:06.28 | SpiderBK | can someone help me with a dropdwonmenu problem? |
| 20:06.35 | valami | It is my own server, ManGOS. |
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| 20:08.02 | Cairenn | valami: private servers aren't discussed in this channel |
| 20:08.06 | Cairenn | period |
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| 20:08.41 | SpiderBK | maybe dropdwon menus are?^^ |
| 20:08.54 | Guillotine | Not them either |
| 20:08.58 | SpiderBK | :( |
| 20:09.12 | Guillotine | dropdown menus are prejudice |
| 20:09.35 | SpiderBK | whats prejudice? |
| 20:09.51 | Guillotine | essentially, you are assigning a function to each button |
| 20:10.18 | Guillotine | take a look at the way Blizz does it at wdnaddons.com |
| 20:11.20 | SpiderBK | i think i done something wrong, my function gets called when i open the dropdown and not when i click on a dropdown button:/ |
| 20:11.44 | Guillotine | You've put it in the wrong place then :( |
| 20:12.58 | Polarina | ROFL @ spell ID 897! |
| 20:17.48 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 20:21.16 | Saint-N | wow |
| 20:21.21 | Saint-N | you JUST found that out? |
| 20:23.49 | Polarina | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2460 is linkable on my server. :) |
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| 20:38.27 | deltron | lol |
| 20:38.40 | deltron | wonder what NYI is |
| 20:39.15 | Hirsute | Not Your..... Igloo? |
| 20:40.03 | Cairenn | Not Yet In |
| 20:40.14 | deltron | ah nice :) |
| 20:40.27 | [melin] | anyone know how to parse the Guild Log? |
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| 20:52.35 | Syzgyn | I remember someone creating a parse of it previously, somewhere on the wowace forums |
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| 21:10.28 | [melin] | ok. another question.. |
| 21:10.50 | [melin] | is there _any_ way to find out if I press TAB when typing in the edit box for the chatframe? |
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| 21:20.58 | Drundia | editbox:SetScript("OnTabPressed",yourfunc) or editbox:HookScript("OnTabPressed",yourfunc) for standard editbox so you don't taint anything |
| 21:21.33 | [melin] | its called editbox? =) |
| 21:23.54 | Drundia | hmm |
| 21:24.06 | Drundia | ChatFrame_EditBox or something |
| 21:24.47 | [melin] | well.. ChatFrame_EditBox:Show() didnt call for eny errors so |
| 21:25.16 | [melin] | any idea on how I get the text from ChatFrame_EditBox aswell? making a NickComplete function |
| 21:25.49 | Drundia | :GetText() |
| 21:26.06 | [melin] | oh :P i should've known that |
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| 21:28.23 | Drundia | by the way it's ChatFrameEditBox, without underscore |
| 21:28.36 | Drundia | i think you have lua errors displaying disabled |
| 21:28.56 | [melin] | yea I did :P |
| 21:29.39 | Tekkub | *ponder* how much do you think a load of laundry weighs, dry? |
| 21:29.50 | Tekkub | say, 2 pairs of jeans and 4 shirts |
| 21:29.51 | Syzgyn | how big a load? |
| 21:29.53 | Syzgyn | uhm |
| 21:29.57 | [melin] | 2kg maybe |
| 21:30.08 | Syzgyn | 10 pounds? |
| 21:30.19 | [melin] | uhm.. 2kg is about 4-5 pounds I think |
| 21:30.35 | Syzgyn | right, I was making another guess :P |
| 21:30.37 | Tekkub | well here's my ponder... it's 2.50/load to do laundry here |
| 21:30.44 | Tekkub | I can wash like 7 items in a load |
| 21:30.52 | Syzgyn | that seems low |
| 21:30.55 | Tekkub | or, I could do drop-off laundry which is per-pound |
| 21:31.00 | [melin] | I just shuv it fill and hope for the best |
| 21:31.22 | Tekkub | I've learned not to overfill washers, then the dryer doesn't get em all dry |
| 21:31.37 | Tekkub | and these are "normal" size washers, not the big economy ones |
| 21:31.40 | [melin] | I dont use dryer =) |
| 21:31.54 | SpiderBK | ok i really need help with this dropdown menu, i cant figure out how this should work:/ |
| 21:31.57 | Tekkub | I miss having my own washer/dryer |
| 21:32.13 | Tekkub | maybe I should find a lil apt-size washer |
| 21:33.25 | Syzgyn | well, figure out how much per year you spend on washing now |
| 21:33.41 | Tekkub | well the biggest issue is, I hate getting quarters :) |
| 21:33.47 | Tekkub | I don't mind doing the laundre |
| 21:33.51 | Syzgyn | if you can get one off of craigslist, it'd most likely be cheaper |
| 21:34.25 | [melin] | Drundia I get an error on: ChatFrameEditBox:HookScript("OnTabPressed",BB_NickComplete); |
| 21:34.40 | [melin] | it cant call global BB_NickComplete (ive tried with () aswell) |
| 21:35.23 | Tekkub | "the average family of 4 produces about 65 pounds of laundry per week" |
| 21:35.24 | Tekkub | lol |
| 21:35.51 | Tekkub | 2 people here... but I don't wear too much clothes since I'm a stay-at-home hermit |
| 21:40.59 | Drundia | melin, strange, it should work really.... |
| 21:42.29 | [melin] | it works now |
| 21:42.41 | [melin] | 'just had to have my function before the hook - forgot that part |
| 21:42.52 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 21:43.38 | ramoz | WAT LASSE?! |
| 21:45.07 | sag_ich_nicht | where the HELL do you edit/declare variables in adobe flash? i never used it and only need to hardcore 2 variables >.> |
| 21:45.09 | zenzelezz | well that was clever |
| 21:45.10 | sag_ich_nicht | *hardcode |
| 21:45.27 | SpiderBK | why is my function called when i open the dropdown and not when i click on a button in the dropdown menu? xml: http://pastey.net/86961 lua: http://pastey.net/86964 |
| 21:45.31 | ramoz | =( |
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| 21:53.45 | gregor11 | hi everyone- i know this is more ace chan, but anyways... anyone else had problems some time, that, when login screen showed, there were no username or password fields? |
| 21:54.44 | MentalPower | it usually takes a few secs for them to appear, also this is not the ace channel thats #WoWAce |
| 21:54.45 | gregor11 | doh, ace=addy |
| 21:54.51 | gregor11 | sorry, i know:$ |
| 21:54.54 | Lopeppeppy | Odd, sounds like the game didn't fully load up. |
| 21:55.04 | gregor11 | they don't appear at all, i've also ran repair |
| 21:55.07 | gregor11 | didn't helped |
| 21:55.22 | MentalPower | you sure theres no error message? |
| 21:55.27 | gregor11 | 100$ |
| 21:55.30 | gregor11 | *100% |
| 21:55.34 | gregor11 | nothing.. |
| 21:55.48 | gregor11 | everything opens normal, just, it doesn't show user/pass fields |
| 21:55.54 | MentalPower | the most common reason for them not to show up is warden either not running or finding something |
| 21:56.05 | gregor11 | then login screen is empty, music is playing in background, the background itself is moving.. |
| 21:56.09 | MentalPower | you running WoW directly using wow.exe or thru the launcher? |
| 21:56.54 | MentalPower | also what OS are you running? |
| 21:57.06 | sag_ich_nicht | okay, pressing F9 did the trick |
| 21:57.13 | sag_ich_nicht | they should call the UI option actionscript |
| 21:57.14 | sag_ich_nicht | not actions |
| 21:57.15 | sag_ich_nicht | -.- |
| 21:57.37 | gregor11 | i've tried opening game directly from wow.exe, then over launcher too |
| 21:57.39 | gregor11 | same results |
| 21:57.43 | gregor11 | f9? lemme check |
| 21:58.03 | gregor11 | (os: windows vista 32bit |
| 21:58.56 | Lopeppeppy | Vista hanging? Warden hanging? Vista and Warden having a fistfight in the corner? |
| 21:59.37 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 21:59.48 | sag_ich_nicht | gregor11 i was talking about adobe flash |
| 21:59.55 | sag_ich_nicht | and editing actionscript |
| 22:00.19 | gregor11 | oh :$ |
| 22:00.20 | gregor11 | sry |
| 22:00.29 | gregor11 | (f9 doesn't do anything btw :)) |
| 22:00.32 | gregor11 | any more ideas? :$ |
| 22:00.44 | elite3vil | are you running it as an administrator? |
| 22:01.07 | gregor11 | yep, my account = admin and UAC is turned off |
| 22:02.20 | MentalPower | you said you ran the repair tool? |
| 22:02.28 | MentalPower | did it fix anything? |
| 22:02.52 | gregor11 | nothing |
| 22:03.35 | gregor11 | after lunching client again, i watched intro again, accepted agreements and again.. |
| 22:03.35 | gregor11 | blank login screen |
| 22:03.35 | MentalPower | what version of WoW is reported when you run the game? |
| 22:03.35 | MentalPower | lower-left corner |
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| 22:04.19 | gregor11 | the login screen is totally empty |
| 22:04.29 | gregor11 | it means... only background + music |
| 22:04.33 | gregor11 | no text, no form, nothing |
| 22:04.38 | gregor11 | so it doesn't even show that |
| 22:05.05 | MentalPower | can you check if you have a gluexml folder anywhere? |
| 22:05.17 | gregor11 | inside Wow folder? |
| 22:05.20 | MentalPower | yup |
| 22:05.33 | gregor11 | root or interface, wtf... or random? |
| 22:05.38 | MentalPower | random |
| 22:05.40 | MentalPower | usually data |
| 22:09.45 | gregor11 | still checking, btw, launcher says exact version: 2.4.1.8125 (eu) |
| 22:10.02 | MentalPower | k |
| 22:10.14 | kergoth | where in the ui loading process does the layoutcache get loaded? |
| 22:10.48 | MentalPower | if you can't find one then I suggest you run an AV/Spyware scan and/or post on the tech support forums |
| 22:10.51 | Drundia | if you have GlueXML with non-standard content WOW shouldn't launch giving error that interface files are corrupt. |
| 22:11.12 | MentalPower | Drundia: I know, but its just a vector to try |
| 22:11.14 | Drundia | it should be like hidden in mpqs |
| 22:11.25 | MentalPower | I know that |
| 22:11.37 | gregor11 | GlueXML should be directory? |
| 22:11.43 | MentalPower | yup |
| 22:11.48 | gregor11 | not file? |
| 22:11.51 | MentalPower | nop |
| 22:11.53 | MentalPower | a directory |
| 22:11.58 | gregor11 | kk |
| 22:13.49 | Industrial | where do i find the new 2.4 honor sets on wowhead? |
| 22:14.09 | MentalPower | kergoth: I have no clue |
| 22:14.29 | gregor11 | nope, no gluexml directory anywhere |
| 22:14.42 | MentalPower | gregor11: av/spyware scan |
| 22:15.01 | MentalPower | if that doesn't turn up anything, post on the blizz tech support forums |
| 22:16.47 | gregor11 | okay |
| 22:16.49 | gregor11 | will do! |
| 22:16.55 | gregor11 | thank you very much for your help:$ |
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| 22:33.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik |
| 22:34.01 | sag_ich_nicht | are you there? |
| 22:34.14 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.physorg.com/news128786808.html you will love this much :> |
| 22:38.21 | Polarina | A new harddisk that doesn't run for magnetic energy! :D |
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| 22:39.11 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina heh |
| 22:39.18 | sag_ich_nicht | that's the least of the posibilities |
| 22:39.30 | sag_ich_nicht | also "magnetic energy"? |
| 22:40.28 | nevcairiel | that will most likely be way too expensive to be used as a harddisk |
| 22:40.42 | Polarina | More bandwidth, a great reduction in seeking, reading and writing latency. Isn't that great for huge, heavily used databases? |
| 22:41.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i will not even comment on what you think this is useful for. |
| 22:41.30 | Legorol | sag_ich_nicht: you'll be happy to know that there is, in fact, such a thing as "magnetic energy" |
| 22:41.46 | Legorol | first year physics textbooks use the term when learning about electric and magnetic fields ;-) |
| 22:41.51 | nevcairiel | You can already buy big ram based disks for high-end database applications, thats nothing new =P |
| 22:41.52 | wereHamster | "More bandwidth, a great reduction in seeking, reading and writing latency." isn't that basically a solid state disk? |
| 22:41.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Legorol: i know, but it's not what Polarina means. |
| 22:42.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i had EE classes and passed them you know :P |
| 22:42.19 | zenzelezz | SSDs are still slow |
| 22:42.27 | Legorol | sag_ich_nicht: good to know |
| 22:42.42 | Industrial | How do I get lower city rep again? arrakoa feathers? |
| 22:42.50 | Legorol | i'll also nitpick and point out that anything that uses electricity in any form whatsoever is also inherently using magnetic energy/magnetism as well |
| 22:42.51 | sag_ich_nicht | *i know, but it's not what Polarina thinks it means. |
| 22:42.52 | sag_ich_nicht | fixed |
| 22:42.53 | nevcairiel | wereHamster: think RAM access speeds, without the need for a magnetic drive to backup data |
| 22:42.54 | zenzelezz | Industrial: Shadow Labs |
| 22:42.54 | wereHamster | by the time this new technology will be mass-market ready, SSDs will be much faster then they are today |
| 22:42.54 | Legorol | the two being inseparable |
| 22:43.09 | Industrial | zenzelezz: something I can grind.. need to bump it to honored |
| 22:43.21 | Legorol | yup, feathers for honored |
| 22:43.24 | Industrial | kay |
| 22:43.32 | Legorol | you need 1120 to go from neutral 0 to honored if i remember right |
| 22:43.36 | Legorol | they are crazy pricey |
| 22:44.50 | Industrial | damn :| thats quite a lot |
| 22:44.56 | Industrial | I need 253 now |
| 22:44.58 | Industrial | :) |
| 22:45.14 | nevcairiel | just do the stupid lower city quests, should get you to honored already |
| 22:45.27 | nevcairiel | in the bone waste |
| 22:45.30 | nevcairiel | at that caravan |
| 22:46.20 | Legorol | that's true, quests are the fastest way |
| 22:46.41 | Legorol | however, if ou want to optimize your rep-gain, you shouldn't complete any LC quest before being honored |
| 22:46.46 | Industrial | hm i might have missed a few there |
| 22:48.09 | Industrial | (I got 70 on my sham this week so im collecting the rare pvp set, 2/5 atm) |
| 22:48.42 | Legorol | i was honored with all factions except KoT before i hit 70 |
| 22:48.52 | Industrial | I hardly did any instances :) |
| 22:48.55 | Legorol | on an alt where i was optimising rep-gain |
| 22:53.10 | art3mis | like MS optimizing? |
| 22:53.26 | art3mis | where you add 15 features 6 of which are broken and it's 15 times as large? |
| 22:53.32 | art3mis | and runs 68% slower? |
| 22:54.52 | Cairenn | interesting - trojan infected fraps: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6248645200&sid=1 |
| 22:55.22 | Lopeppeppy | Oh FFS. |
| 22:55.37 | zenzelezz | im in ur promotiunal video, infecting ur computarz |
| 22:55.44 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: lol |
| 22:58.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: ? |
| 22:58.41 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 22:59.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh new ytoys |
| 22:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | *toys |
| 22:59.41 | Cairenn | heh, see? I knew you'd wanna play |
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| 23:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Though it doesn't have a link to the trojan'd file |
| 23:01.21 | End | Yeah, there's nothing to really play with! |
| 23:01.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Way to get my hopes up! |
| 23:01.54 | Cairenn | sowwy :( |
| 23:02.11 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:02.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm doing dailies anyways |
| 23:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | But I appreciate the though ;) |
| 23:03.05 | ScytheBlade1 | *thought |
| 23:03.18 | Dolby | ScytheBlade1: here is a link http://tinyurl.com/2q9j9y |
| 23:03.30 | ScytheBlade1 | *turns on tinyurl preview* |
| 23:03.38 | kergoth | Antiarc: ping |
| 23:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "This TinyURL redirects to: |
| 23:03.53 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU |
| 23:03.54 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 23:03.57 | ScytheBlade1 | HMM. |
| 23:05.48 | Dolby | bah your no fun |
| 23:06.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:06.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I would say I'm sorry, but I'm not ;) |
| 23:06.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Further I don't even have flash installed |
| 23:06.26 | ScytheBlade1 | So it's wasted on me |
| 23:11.25 | Keias | The song is too enjoyable to be offensive! |
| 23:11.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I've honestly never heard it not once |
| 23:12.23 | art3mis | laugh why dont i believe that |
| 23:12.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 19:06 < ScytheBlade1> Further I don't even have flash installed |
| 23:12.30 | art3mis | you've got his tape i know you do |
| 23:12.45 | art3mis | and when you were yuong you used to dance around to it with your walkman ;) |
| 23:13.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah... I was exactly 0 years old when that song debued |
| 23:13.24 | art3mis | see i knew it! |
| 23:13.25 | Keias | My mom used to listen to it all the time. It was great. |
| 23:20.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh that's right, I installed Asterisk at 3:30 AM last night |
| 23:20.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Err, this morning |
| 23:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I have something to play with |
| 23:25.47 | Syzgyn | Theres no way to tell when someone besides your own target changes, correct? |
| 23:26.18 | ScytheBlade1 | No you can |
| 23:26.30 | ScytheBlade1 | I think the specific event fires for a LOT of people and things |
| 23:26.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Otherwise how could you see things like target of target? |
| 23:26.47 | zenzelezz | UNIT_TARGET or something, isn't it? |
| 23:26.47 | Industrial | dumdum zenzelezz grinded me 60 featehrs :P |
| 23:26.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 23:26.56 | zenzelezz | no I didn't |
| 23:26.59 | Industrial | lessee what it gets me :P |
| 23:27.05 | Syzgyn | I thought they just did it with OnUpdate :V |
| 23:27.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 23:27.39 | zenzelezz | OnUpdate is like your mother in law, you avoid it when you can |
| 23:28.08 | Syzgyn | yeah, I knew that much :) |
| 23:28.13 | art3mis | anyone here in or near nyc going to the Dethklok Show in june? |
| 23:28.26 | SpiderBK | can someone help me with a dropdown menu problem? |
| 23:28.32 | art3mis | zenzelezz: what if yer mother in law is hot? |
| 23:31.26 | art3mis | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7354458.stm |
| 23:32.53 | Legorol | Industrial: zenzelezz is on your realm? :O |
| 23:33.35 | sag_ich_nicht | art3mis go read this instead, it's way more interesting: http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207403521 |
| 23:37.24 | art3mis | holy shit |
| 23:37.29 | art3mis | thats awesome! |
| 23:37.50 | art3mis | and equally as cool as a guy who grew back his finger using stem cells in 4 weeks ;P |
| 23:38.56 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:37] <art3mis> thats awesome! <--that's a huge understatement |
| 23:39.11 | art3mis | hehe fuck 45nm chips ;) |
| 23:39.33 | art3mis | being able to regenerate limb is pretty fucking awesome too ;) |
| 23:39.59 | sag_ich_nicht | call me when they can regrow the part of the brain that descended into the skull commonly known as eye nerve. |
| 23:40.06 | zenzelezz | but growing new limbs doesn't make your CPU go faster or require less power |
| 23:40.11 | sag_ich_nicht | pfff |
| 23:40.17 | art3mis | sag_ich_nicht: stem cells baby |
| 23:40.24 | sag_ich_nicht | zenzelezz that's the LEAST of the implications of this |
| 23:40.44 | sag_ich_nicht | basicially all the EE textbooks of the last century and the last 8 years are wrong |
| 23:40.47 | sag_ich_nicht | >.> |
| 23:40.49 | RockSlice | does anyone know of a function to check whether an item is lootable? |
| 23:40.59 | zenzelezz | I don't even know what "this" is since I haven't followed your link |
| 23:41.11 | sag_ich_nicht | well you should. |
| 23:41.47 | art3mis | go read it zen |
| 23:41.50 | art3mis | it's amazing |
| 23:42.33 | zenzelezz | doesn't sound like something that would interest me, I have other things to read |
| 23:42.58 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god |
| 23:43.05 | sag_ich_nicht | think of the DAC you can build with these |
| 23:44.55 | Industrial | Legorol: no :D? |
| 23:45.06 | Industrial | Legorol: im grinding for myself hehe |
| 23:45.29 | Legorol | <Industrial> dumdum zenzelezz grinded me 60 featehrs :P |
| 23:45.40 | Legorol | I took that to mean zenzelezz grinded for you 60 feathers |
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| 23:46.59 | Industrial | ah no I grinded it ;\ |
| 23:46.59 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:47.06 | Shirik | one of my guildies just RP walked from shat to BT |
| 23:47.13 | Shirik | just to see how long it would take |
| 23:47.31 | Industrial | what happens in goldshire stays in goldshire RP? |
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| 23:48.11 | Industrial | I cant imagine how "im a trol, now im picking my nose, hey you suck." is fun |
| 23:48.13 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:48.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: we walked from ironforge to booty bay once |
| 23:48.26 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:48.29 | Shirik | why would you do that |
| 23:48.39 | sag_ich_nicht | it has something to do with moonkins and treants |
| 23:48.42 | zenzelezz | For great justice! |
| 23:48.45 | sag_ich_nicht | *had |
| 23:48.54 | sag_ich_nicht | and moonkins not being able to use a mount |
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| 23:50.04 | RockSlice | Does anyone know of a function to check whether an item is lootable? |
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| 23:52.35 | MentalPower | lootable? |
| 23:52.37 | MentalPower | meaning? |
| 23:54.21 | End | I'd guess master loot and rolling aren't keeping the player from looting? |
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| 23:54.28 | Shirik | my guild just accidentally killed doomwalker -_- |
| 23:54.33 | End | accidently? |
| 23:54.43 | End | does that mean you failed to get into BT? |
| 23:54.45 | Shirik | they pulled it while waiting to enter BT or something |
| 23:55.03 | sag_ich_nicht | lol |
| 23:55.19 | Shirik | I'm in shatt picking up some herbs |
| 23:55.24 | Shirik | and I'm like "what is earthquake cooldown?" |
| 23:55.26 | Shirik | "fuck doomwalker" |
| 23:55.36 | End | hmm, the only bad ability I remember is earthquake, and people should have enough hp |
| 23:56.01 | sag_ich_nicht | doomwalker is a pushover |
| 23:56.10 | Shirik | and then it's all like |
| 23:56.12 | Shirik | [#] 19:53:47 [G] <70:Sairayn>: NRT: Doomwalker down! Whisper me your mains name to be added to the DKP list. |
| 23:56.16 | Shirik | and I'm like "wtf?" |
| 23:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | kazzak is still a bitch in T6, and even more so after 2.4 with the daily mobs around |
| 23:56.40 | sag_ich_nicht | -_- |
| 23:56.57 | End | yeah, the big problem with kazzak isn't kazzak himself |
| 23:57.01 | End | it's other players |
| 23:57.18 | zenzelezz | Kazzak was no problem with half-T4, half-T5 before the new daillies |
| 23:57.51 | End | although, either he despawns from time to time, or someone is killing him on my realm |
| 23:58.25 | zenzelezz | I think the GMs just kill him when they get tired of listening to him while helping lowbies in Hellfire |
| 23:58.50 | End | heh |
