| 00:00.07 | Kaso | yup |
| 00:00.13 | Kaso | almost the exact same method of detecting them |
| 00:00.17 | AnduinLothar | cool |
| 00:03.27 | Kaso | KasoBubbles has a nifty little custom itterator so you can for i,region in itterator(WorldFrame) to grab em all |
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| 00:04.19 | AnduinLothar | nifty |
| 00:04.27 | stew_a | any idea why blizz took colour codes out? |
| 00:04.32 | stew_a | seems like a sensible thing to have |
| 00:05.08 | AnduinLothar | so you cant fake system messages and gm's |
| 00:05.28 | stew_a | in speech bubbles? |
| 00:05.37 | Kaso | i assume they wanted speech bubbles to look more like speech and less like the chatframe plonked above their head. |
| 00:05.50 | Kaso | I dont know though some designer thought it looked better no doubt |
| 00:06.25 | Kaso | but i remebe patch 1.4 or 1.5 when they dissapeared i was most frustrated :< |
| 00:06.31 | AnduinLothar | PTR up? |
| 00:06.50 | stew_a | aye |
| 00:10.00 | Duman | yessir |
| 00:12.15 | bleeter | hey, 2.4.2 patch note question: re: 'creature versions of Poly no longer heal target' << anyone know if that's all mobs in general, or just beasties? ie, will shade obey this, or not? |
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| 00:15.50 | Atriace | What's the reference to the global table? _G no? |
| 00:16.33 | JoshBorke | yes |
| 00:16.43 | Atriace | Then for i,v in ipairs(_G) do should work, no? |
| 00:16.54 | dylanm | Why ipairs |
| 00:16.57 | dylanm | That's for arrays |
| 00:17.10 | Atriace | Lack of knowledge on my part. |
| 00:17.16 | Atriace | I thought ipairs iterated over the whole table. |
| 00:17.20 | dylanm | Use pairs... but uh don't. |
| 00:17.28 | dylanm | I mean you're going to get a lot of stuff. |
| 00:17.43 | Atriace | Well, get, but return on a string.find result |
| 00:17.48 | Atriace | only* |
| 00:18.07 | dylanm | Why |
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| 00:18.42 | WobWorking_ | we're talking about returning the entire global table? |
| 00:18.49 | WobWorking_ | which is... a lot of stuff? |
| 00:18.50 | Atriace | I'm trying to find a way to replace a texture from within the global table. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86372 |
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| 00:19.05 | Atriace | This is only to find it. |
| 00:19.22 | WobWorking_ | can't you set the texture of the pointer? |
| 00:19.41 | Atriace | You can, but it gets reset on every frame update. |
| 00:19.48 | WobWorking | only over the uiparent |
| 00:19.53 | Atriace | I've since discovered that it's only updating while UiParent |
| 00:19.57 | Atriace | Dang, beat me to it. |
| 00:20.01 | WobWorking | hehe =) |
| 00:21.19 | Guillotine | You have a couple options |
| 00:21.28 | Guillotine | you could loop through and replace the texture like you want to do |
| 00:21.42 | Guillotine | or you can set the texture once and hook the function that changes the texture |
| 00:21.53 | Guillotine | and stop it from changing it when you don't want it to be changed |
| 00:22.15 | Atriace | The hooking method I tried, but the function that's causing it is nowhere to be found. It would appear to be in the C code. |
| 00:22.24 | Guillotine | I seriously doubt it |
| 00:22.41 | Guillotine | hold on, firefox is loading and I'll see exactly what you're trying to do |
| 00:23.13 | Guillotine | oh, you're trying to replace the cursor |
| 00:23.18 | WobWorking | yeah |
| 00:23.20 | Atriace | bingo |
| 00:23.22 | WobWorking | may lead to tainting |
| 00:23.26 | WobWorking | or something |
| 00:23.38 | dylanm | You can just uh override the file right |
| 00:23.43 | Atriace | replacing a variable? I thought tainting was only relative to functions? |
| 00:23.49 | Guillotine | I don't think its even possible. I mean, I seriously doubt that texture is in any global variable |
| 00:24.01 | Guillotine | I mean, other than overriding the file |
| 00:24.07 | Atriace | Well, yeah. A third option would be to outright locally replace the texture (e.g., placing X texture at Interface\Cursor\X.blp) but it's less elegant or portable. |
| 00:24.22 | Guillotine | But its the only one that will work for pointers |
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| 00:24.25 | dylanm | It's what people do. |
| 00:24.38 | Guillotine | Atriace: if you want to make one that is changeable, replace it with a pure alpha texture |
| 00:24.43 | Guillotine | then just attach a frame |
| 00:24.44 | Atriace | I'm hoping that the filepath is in a variable, not necessarily the texture itself. |
| 00:24.46 | Guillotine | that has the picture |
| 00:24.50 | Guillotine | It won't be |
| 00:24.54 | Guillotine | I can virtually guarantee it |
| 00:25.12 | Guillotine | also, those should be double back-slashes |
| 00:25.18 | Guillotine | (right now they are just escaping the next character) |
| 00:25.40 | dylanm | You can also do [[Interface\Blah]] |
| 00:25.43 | Atriace | Guillotine: you mentioned adding a 0,0,0,0 picture to a frame before. I still don't get how it's plausibly possible. |
| 00:25.45 | Guillotine | yup |
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| 00:26.08 | Guillotine | Atriace: I think I said fully alphad |
| 00:26.12 | Guillotine | not no size |
| 00:26.30 | Atriace | Not refering to size, actually. I meant 0 red green or blue and 0 alpha. |
| 00:26.37 | Guillotine | oh |
| 00:26.49 | Guillotine | well, the colors don't matter if alpha is 0 |
| 00:26.55 | Guillotine | Why don't you see how its possible? |
| 00:27.57 | dylanm | Of course, it won't be as snappy as a hardware cursor. |
| 00:28.01 | Guillotine | correct |
| 00:28.05 | Atriace | becuase all it is is a picture with no data and black in the alpha channel. I have a lot of textures that use complex alphas (ie., white + black or grey) but they never cause an underlying object to lose its opacity by transferance. |
| 00:28.24 | Guillotine | Atriace: Huh? |
| 00:28.40 | Atriace | lol... |
| 00:28.40 | Guillotine | I just meant make the cursor invisible and create the visible part with a normal frame |
| 00:28.48 | Guillotine | one that you can change the texture of |
| 00:28.55 | Guillotine | if you want people to be allowed to change the texture in-game |
| 00:29.48 | Atriace | so... WoWUICursor:SetAlpha(0); MyFramePointer:SetPoint(WoWUICursor) sort of thing? |
| 00:30.28 | dylanm | I don't think it has a name... |
| 00:30.29 | dylanm | ? |
| 00:30.35 | dylanm | I have no clue. Going to have to learn something. |
| 00:30.48 | Guillotine | Hold on, I'm going to try something |
| 00:31.01 | Guillotine | It has no name |
| 00:31.04 | Guillotine | and isn't even a frame |
| 00:31.12 | Guillotine | I mean replace the file with a pure alpha one |
| 00:31.23 | Atriace | It was actually I concept I considered earlier too, but how to get the name is... perplexing. Not like you can use DevTools to mouseover the tool for a framestack. |
| 00:31.30 | Guillotine | It isn't a frame |
| 00:31.39 | Guillotine | You can't access it via Lua |
| 00:31.52 | Guillotine | e.g. try iterating through all frames. It won't show up |
| 00:32.15 | Atriace | Makes sense. All it is is a texture + pointer pixel. |
| 00:33.09 | Atriace | So, how would you propose you replace the file with a pure alpha one apart from placing it at Interface\Cursor\X? |
| 00:35.31 | WobWorking | oh man |
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| 00:35.42 | WobWorking | You're replacing the cursor with a frame stuck on the cursor? |
| 00:36.00 | Atriace | One possible solution, yes. |
| 00:36.08 | WobWorking | that's horribly laggy |
| 00:36.30 | WobWorking | One other solution would be to cover UIParent with a giant frame |
| 00:36.37 | WobWorking | and then use set cursor texture |
| 00:36.44 | Guillotin1 | That works too |
| 00:37.00 | Guillotin1 | but would have some wierd results |
| 00:37.10 | WobWorking | possibly if you get stuck in that mode, yes |
| 00:37.11 | Guillotin1 | like no cursor change over NPCs |
| 00:37.24 | WobWorking | what are you intending to change the cursor to? |
| 00:37.32 | WobWorking | (I'm only assuming a short time period reason) |
| 00:37.44 | Atriace | Cursor replacement. |
| 00:37.48 | WobWorking | complete |
| 00:37.49 | WobWorking | ? |
| 00:37.51 | Atriace | yes |
| 00:37.57 | WobWorking | ah, nm that solution then |
| 00:38.33 | WobWorking | as soon as you involve the 3D world interaction, there's not much you can do easily to replace cursor functionality |
| 00:38.34 | Atriace | Animated trails would be nice, but wishful thinking unless I can get this first issue out of the way. |
| 00:38.55 | WobWorking | animated trails would be ... inefficient to be sure =) |
| 00:39.01 | Atriace | hehe |
| 00:39.06 | bleeter | aargh 500 guild member limit issue aargh |
| 00:39.48 | WobWorking | Just remember that any solution you use will be pretty cpu intensive, as we're basically working around the cursor system with hacks |
| 00:39.55 | WobWorking | (and that's NEVER good =P) |
| 00:40.00 | Kaso | bleeter, you really have 500 members? |
| 00:40.50 | dylanm | WobWorking: Is sticking something to the cursor really that bad? Tooltip addons do it :p |
| 00:40.55 | Atriace | Well, it isn't really my first choice either, Wob. Like I mentioned earlier, if I could replace a file reference var with my own, that'd be ideal. |
| 00:41.02 | bleeter | Kaso: nah, someone on CSF making an RFC ;) |
| 00:41.17 | bleeter | Kaso: we gkickied a bunch of people about three weeks ago when we did get dangerously close, though |
| 00:41.30 | WobWorking | dylanm: if you've ever accidentally stuck a frame to the cursor with setmoving, you'll know just how unresponsive it can be |
| 00:42.00 | dylanm | I know it's not responsive. |
| 00:42.05 | Kaso | if your that close you must have a fair chunk of charaters that havent been online in months? unless everyone has like 5 bank alts in the guild? |
| 00:42.40 | WobWorking | dylanm: well then, by definition it's 'bad' =) Cause with any cursor modification, you want it to be fairly precise |
| 00:42.50 | WobWorking | since the majority of ingame interaction is done by cursor |
| 00:43.12 | dylanm | Oh indeed. I'm just wondering if when tooltip addons do it... is it really taxing? |
| 00:43.22 | dylanm | I haven't done any profiling on the matter. |
| 00:43.25 | WobWorking | probably not |
| 00:43.32 | dylanm | But yeah, it lags. |
| 00:43.34 | dylanm | And that would suck. |
| 00:43.37 | Guillotine | The best way to replace the cursor is to just override the file |
| 00:43.37 | WobWorking | any more than redrawing the frame every frame |
| 00:44.24 | bleeter | Kaso: many of our members have 3 or more 70's, with a few 40-60's. We've recently (in last six months) also gained a lot of friends of players taking them from other MMO's and FPS's, so yeah it's been a bit mad hehe |
| 00:45.03 | Atriace | How do you test whether a value is a string/table/etc...? |
| 00:45.08 | Kaso | type() |
| 00:45.16 | Atriace | danka |
| 00:45.17 | Kaso | type({}) == "table" |
| 00:47.28 | Sixen_ | kd3 |
| 00:47.49 | Sixen_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6133893436 |
| 00:47.53 | Sixen_ | Can anyone see Hortus' reply? |
| 00:48.05 | Kaso | I love watching the Party Political Broadcasts for the small parties, they're amusing, BNP one was awesome, the christian choice one is also good |
| 00:48.17 | Guillotine | Sixen_: nope |
| 00:48.20 | Sixen_ | Hmph. |
| 00:49.23 | Syzgyn | Sixen_: Yes |
| 00:49.24 | kd3 | sixen; "we're not turning it on unless there's a high volume of posts" |
| 00:49.32 | Lopeppeppy | I see it. |
| 00:50.14 | bleeter | Sixen_: forums are buggy |
| 00:50.22 | bleeter | some posts take a little while to 'appear' for some people |
| 00:50.37 | bleeter | the forums seem to get this way for a day or two after maintenance, at least it's done this the past few times |
| 00:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hortus is being selective. :) |
| 00:52.04 | Sixen_ | Yeah, :/. |
| 00:52.10 | Sixen_ | I got it to update after I replied to it. |
| 00:52.15 | Sixen_ | Looks like there's a bug in the forums. |
| 00:52.31 | Sixen_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6133803436 |
| 00:52.34 | Sixen_ | I don't see KD3's post. |
| 00:53.32 | Guillotine | bleeter: nah. we're just ignoring you ^_^ |
| 00:53.40 | bleeter | Guillotine: kk |
| 00:53.44 | Zootfizzle | Is someone talking? |
| 00:53.47 | Atriace | Anyone see bleeter on? |
| 00:53.57 | Guillotine | Who is bleeter? |
| 00:53.58 | kd3 | whee, 503 |
| 00:54.15 | bleeter | Guillotine: some dickhead, I'm sure |
| 00:54.50 | bleeter | maybe Blizz should Ace the forums |
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| 00:55.08 | kd3 | lmao |
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| 00:55.13 | Cairenn | :p |
| 00:55.26 | kd3 | gack, it's 21:00. need food |
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| 00:55.39 | bleeter | Cairenn: you're meant to be ignoring me! :P |
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| 00:56.14 | Sixen_ | Oh |
| 00:56.16 | Sixen_ | Happy Birthday to me. |
| 00:56.17 | Sixen_ | =) |
| 00:56.24 | Cairenn | happy birthday Sixen_ |
| 00:56.25 | Lopeppeppy | Happy birthday, dear. |
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| 00:56.42 | Sixen_ | <3 |
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| 00:57.33 | Syzgyn | happy birthday! |
| 00:57.48 | Guillotine | Sixen_: Are you turning six (en)? |
| 00:59.08 | Sixen_ | Hmph. |
| 00:59.15 | Sixen_ | Now i'm officially Sevenen. |
| 00:59.23 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. |
| 00:59.38 | Sixen_ | It worked out last year, :(. |
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| 01:12.52 | Sixen_ | KD3, did you get Kaydeethree on the PTR? |
| 01:13.23 | MentalPower|PC | he usually does |
| 01:13.29 | Sixen_ | Hmph. |
| 01:13.38 | Sixen_ | Somehow all of my character names are taken. And Sixen is (never( taken. |
| 01:14.12 | MentalPower|PC | same here |
| 01:14.20 | MentalPower|PC | with String/While in my case |
| 01:15.17 | Sixen_ | =/ |
| 01:17.12 | Sixen_ | It seems like the character namelist was never reset or something. |
| 01:17.34 | MentalPower|PC | or they added a shitton of names to the blacklist |
| 01:18.06 | Sixen_ | Sixen/Izual/Elzix shouldn't be bl'ed :P |
| 01:19.21 | MentalPower|PC | true |
| 01:19.29 | MentalPower|PC | and neither should While/String |
| 01:22.06 | Sixen_ | =P |
| 01:22.52 | Sixen_ | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6136233573 -- Let's see. |
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| 01:29.10 | kd3 | huh |
| 01:29.28 | End | huh? |
| 01:29.29 | kd3 | I never noticed (now that I'm in Tanaris again for the first time in a while) that there's a path on the ground between the caverns of time and gadz |
| 01:29.29 | End | huh! |
| 01:29.39 | Sixen_ | =o |
| 01:30.17 | Lopeppeppy | Always been there, kd3. |
| 01:31.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 01:32.27 | bleeter | oO http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6136433587&sid=1 |
| 01:32.33 | bleeter | ppl can't enter sunwell atm |
| 01:32.39 | kd3 | any horde mages in the channel? |
| 01:32.57 | bleeter | kd3: we prolly scared them away with our alliance mage leetness ;) |
| 01:34.31 | Sixen_ | <~ |
| 01:35.25 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.2/Undocumented_changes#Mage |
| 01:37.05 | Syzgyn | nifty! |
| 01:38.16 | Syzgyn | I forsee portal roulette being even more annoying |
| 01:38.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, that just means that I'll have ~10 seconds if I have 0 latency of all five portals being up. |
| 01:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | This saddens me. |
| 01:39.52 | Syzgyn | you obviously need to have a shammy pop heroism first |
| 01:40.13 | Syzgyn | can you PoM -> portal? |
| 01:40.27 | kd3 | no. PoM is <10s casts only |
| 01:40.32 | Syzgyn | ah well |
| 01:41.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Haste doesn't touch portals either iirc |
| 01:41.27 | Guillotine | PI does for sure |
| 01:41.44 | bleeter | wth? changing charm of swift flight!? I'm outraged! first the drangonlings got nerfed, now I won't be able to fly places quickly!!!!!1!!zomgonejuanyuanone |
| 01:41.57 | ScytheBlade1 | they changed it? |
| 01:42.07 | Guillotine | Is the flight speed removed? I'm pretty sure the mana reduction was just an addition |
| 01:42.15 | bleeter | according to kd3's undoco'd changed, merely reduced mana cost |
| 01:42.37 | Guillotine | it just says it now reduces mana cost. doesn't say that it doesn't increase flight speed |
| 01:42.39 | bleeter | I'll be on the PTR with my durid soon enough ;) |
| 01:43.19 | bleeter | Guillotine: I infer 'change' with the word 'now', if 'additionally' had been used, I'd agree |
| 01:46.04 | WobWorking | wow |
| 01:46.11 | WobWorking | portal Theramore |
| 01:46.15 | WobWorking | much more useful |
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| 01:57.05 | bleeter | WobWorking: probably a prep for WotLK ;) |
| 01:57.40 | WobWorking | meh |
| 01:57.55 | MentalPower|PC | bleeter: these are not official patch notes |
| 01:58.02 | WobWorking | more likely to just have a portal directly to wherever on HappyWalrus Island |
| 01:58.08 | MentalPower|PC | so the subtle clues might not be there :) |
| 01:58.25 | WobWorking | Cause we didn't get a portal to Netherkeep now, did we? |
| 01:58.54 | bleeter | MentalPower|PC: the Theramore changes recently, with the increase in the Missing Diplomat chain, lead me to suspect Theramore's gunna be an important Alli hub for WotLK |
| 01:59.12 | bleeter | yeah, just talking out my butt really ;) |
| 01:59.31 | MentalPower|PC | bleeter: I was taking about the druid flight form trinket |
| 01:59.39 | bleeter | MentalPower|PC: oh... haha |
| 01:59.50 | MentalPower|PC | :) |
| 01:59.59 | bleeter | MentalPower|PC: yeah, I'll be on the PTR soon enough with my druid anyways, will find out then hehe |
| 02:00.25 | kd3 | bleeter; I ran in to the realm select screen breaking too. look for my "glue screen bugs" thread |
| 02:00.57 | bleeter | kd3: ah, rightio. I really should set up some default google search to look for your PTR posts ;) |
| 02:01.12 | bleeter | kd3: thanks for confirming I'm not totally nutzo, nevertheless. |
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| 02:29.38 | kd3 | anyone on the PvE PTR alliance side at the moment? |
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| 02:31.12 | bleeter | gtg, check your /msg kd3... ttfn |
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| 02:45.12 | Atriace | Is there any way to see what's in WoW's memory cache? |
| 02:45.29 | Drundia | what exactly changed in 2.4.0 referred to as "Game physics have been changed to prevent wall climbing." - apparently we can still climb some walls |
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| 02:54.35 | End | Drundia: I've managed to stand on walls a little bit using my mount |
| 02:55.02 | End | mostly I've only looted mobs on the side of steep hills that way, but that could be related or something |
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| 02:59.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Finally, I can enchant Mongoose |
| 02:59.06 | ScytheBlade1 | IT'S ONLY BEEN A YEAR |
| 03:00.40 | Lopeppeppy | *cheer* |
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| 03:02.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Now I can enchant my old caster weapons with mongoose |
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| 03:05.20 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 03:08.51 | Corrodias | OLD CASTER WEAPONS |
| 03:13.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got a Sun Eater enchanted with Mongoose. |
| 03:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | (I'm a mage.) |
| 03:17.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, someone is about to be banned |
| 03:18.02 | Corrodias | from what? |
| 03:18.04 | ScytheBlade1 | UI thread: "World of Porncraft patch. Rated R for RAWRRR" |
| 03:18.14 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 03:18.20 | Corrodias | *eyeroll* |
| 03:18.23 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on the boards right now |
| 03:19.03 | kd3 | I uh... will not be touching that thread |
| 03:19.05 | Lopeppeppy | Oh for cat's sake, I've reported that one so many times. |
| 03:19.14 | Corrodias | note that i'm a big fan of nudity, but i know that thread won't be allowed |
| 03:19.15 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure it's another stolen account. *rolls eyes* |
| 03:19.23 | ScytheBlade1 | They should just give peppy mod powers. ;) |
| 03:19.26 | Corrodias | well... i know it wouldn't be, if they bothered |
| 03:21.34 | Corrodias | http://zip.4chan.org/v/src/1209006543478.jpg |
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| 03:42.00 | Atriace | I've rewritten this one portion of my code in 3 different ways already, but I just can't get SetScript("OnEnter", functionX) to work. If anybody sees something I'm missing... please let me know. I'm in a state of hail-marry. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86401 |
| 03:42.19 | Atriace | Particular attention to the commented portion describing the returned error. |
| 03:44.30 | MentalPower|PC | Atriace: where is SUI_Self_Buff defined? |
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| 03:44.49 | Atriace | line 37 |
| 03:45.00 | Atriace | father_string |
| 03:46.03 | Atriace | where prefix = "SUI_Self" and father_string = prefix.."_Buff" |
| 03:46.26 | MentalPower|PC | for sanity, change it to father:SetScript(), also nowhere in that code do you call :EnableMouse() (or whatever that widget method is) |
| 03:46.56 | Atriace | that might be what I'm missing (and it was father prior to the post...) |
| 03:47.16 | MentalPower|PC | Frame:EnableMouse(enableFlag) - Set whether this frame will get mouse input. |
| 03:47.16 | Atriace | I changed it to an explicit frame name because I wanted to verify I was getting the right frame applied with the script. |
| 03:47.24 | Atriace | Thanks |
| 03:47.37 | MentalPower|PC | and/or Frame:EnableMouseWheel(enableFlag) - Set whether this frame will get mouse wheel notifications. |
| 03:48.42 | Atriace | enableFlag == true or false? |
| 03:48.48 | MentalPower|PC | yup |
| 03:49.24 | Atriace | yay! |
| 03:49.38 | Atriace | It verks! I tell joo! |
| 03:49.39 | MentalPower|PC | works? |
| 03:49.42 | MentalPower|PC | woot! |
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| 04:04.02 | kd3 | oh wow. they fixed sending \ns to chat |
| 04:04.11 | kd3 | "Kaydeethre says something unintelligible." |
| 04:04.31 | kd3 | no more insta-logouts |
| 04:05.13 | kergoth | kd3: aww |
| 04:05.23 | kergoth | i had /dc send \n to chat to logout quick :P |
| 04:12.53 | WobWorking | http://aruljohn.com/fun/j/bug/ |
| 04:15.28 | Alexanderyoshi | kd3 |
| 04:15.31 | Alexanderyoshi | Why do you cry? |
| 04:15.38 | Alexanderyoshi | If there were no undocumented changes |
| 04:15.46 | Alexanderyoshi | there would be no treasures for you to find |
| 04:16.28 | kd3 | no, I'm just sad that \n got nerfed |
| 04:17.28 | kd3 | undoc changes are a fact of life in WoW... we've all gotten used to that by now |
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| 04:18.06 | kd3 | lua> 1440/900 |
| 04:18.06 | lua_bot | kd3: 1.6 |
| 04:18.11 | kd3 | lua> 1680/1050 |
| 04:18.11 | lua_bot | kd3: 1.6 |
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| 04:22.17 | cogwheel | lua> 1920/1200 |
| 04:22.18 | lua_bot | cogwheel: 1.6 |
| 04:26.19 | Kandoko | Is there a locale independent GlobalString for the header messages received from the auction house. "Alliance Auction House" "Horde Auction House" ? |
| 04:28.54 | MentalPower | nop |
| 04:29.12 | MentalPower | but there is FACTION_ALLIANCE = "Alliance" and FACTION_HORDE = "Horde" |
| 04:29.53 | MentalPower | http://wdnaddons.com/2418124/FrameXML/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 04:37.44 | leftbracket | kd3: where did you get the Charm of Swift Flight change? i just tested it and there is no mana reduction |
| 04:38.17 | kd3 | saw it on mmo-c. links in-game are saying no change from live. it just got pulled from undoc |
| 04:38.28 | leftbracket | yea i did that |
| 04:38.46 | leftbracket | rumors i guess |
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| 04:43.29 | Fisker- | The Quest The Multiphase Survey from Harbinger Haronem in Shattrath, no longer rewards a [Shattered Sun Supplies] upon completion. |
| 04:43.30 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 04:43.48 | kd3 | ya, I'm sad to see that |
| 04:43.54 | kd3 | and gah that the comma splice |
| 04:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | bah, that stinks. |
| 04:45.06 | kd3 | I checked all of the other quests rewarding the supplies... only multiphase got changed afaik |
| 04:45.31 | WobWorking | kd3: yeah, why, the, comma? =( |
| 04:45.33 | Lopeppeppy | That one is kind of the easiest. |
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| 04:46.04 | WobWorking | hm, that's the goggle one in Nagrand, irght? |
| 04:46.07 | kd3 | dunno. I didn't add it |
| 04:46.08 | kd3 | yah |
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| 04:48.05 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: http://pastey.net/86403 (finally caught what causes /target to get unusable) |
| 04:49.38 | AnduinLothar | pretty sure it's Satellite, no? |
| 04:49.52 | Fisker- | what about the refer a friend stuff kd3? :o |
| 04:50.28 | kd3 | no clue. forum GM I pinged last night is staying quiet |
| 04:51.26 | Fisker- | i doubt the eu's are going to be happy |
| 04:51.46 | Fisker- | only like 8 countries can actuallly use the refer a friend system |
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| 05:05.37 | Fisker- | hey fuck you sso :( |
| 05:05.53 | Fisker- | Then a draenei starts laughing and says "It's an honor to serve with you, Fiskerdin" |
| 05:06.01 | kd3 | lol |
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| 05:06.47 | Fisker- | i wonder though |
| 05:06.57 | Fisker- | why don't they put a chance of epic gems on the consortium dudes as well? |
| 05:07.11 | Fisker- | they're devaluing the blues enough as it is :( |
| 05:07.13 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:49] <+AnduinLothar> pretty sure it's Satellite, no? <--probably |
| 05:07.20 | sag_ich_nicht | whatever it is that tabcompletes /tar to /target |
| 05:07.22 | sag_ich_nicht | causes it |
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| 05:09.33 | Fisker- | #"!¤#"%&"!¤ |
| 05:09.59 | Fisker- | then after killing 6 flayers i get a gland |
| 05:10.04 | Fisker- | the ravager i use it on is evading of course |
| 05:10.12 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.25 | Fisker- | don't take this the wrong way, but i want to physically harm you |
| 05:16.39 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3779168422&sid=1 <-owned |
| 05:16.47 | Drundia | those ravagers will all be in evade mode by tommorrow evening |
| 05:17.03 | Fisker- | why? |
| 05:17.37 | Syzgyn | Fisker-: I wanted that set :( |
| 05:17.46 | Drundia | because the new ones start evading all the time |
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| 05:17.56 | Fisker- | oh |
| 05:18.02 | Fisker- | then they might evade earlier |
| 05:18.19 | Fisker- | pulled like 4 packs of ravagers so the mounds were free too :P |
| 05:18.34 | Yssaril | anyone know if there are any api changes/additions in 2.4.2 i didn't see a threat on the ui/macro forums |
| 05:18.55 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/86304 |
| 05:19.07 | kd3 | actual api changes, dunno. but that's the interface diff |
| 05:20.06 | dylanm | \m/ |
| 05:22.17 | Yssaril | kd3: woot thanks and they gave me GetQuestSpellLink() :) |
| 05:22.30 | Syzgyn | so I threw together a quick mod that shows currentxp/total xp to 70... its depressing... |
| 05:22.50 | Syzgyn | turns out lvl 44 is only 0.1190% to 70 |
| 05:23.32 | Fisker- | I HATE YOU KD3 |
| 05:23.45 | Fisker- | my stupid ember despawned again |
| 05:24.00 | kd3 | are you leaving the throne? |
| 05:24.07 | Fisker- | no |
| 05:24.11 | Fisker- | i wasn't even mounted |
| 05:24.16 | Fisker- | it's retarded |
| 05:27.52 | Yssaril | Syzgyn: does it really matter though cause your xp earned also scales |
| 05:28.15 | Syzgyn | I know it doesn't. Just made it for fun |
| 05:28.28 | Syzgyn | I didnt realize it was that skewed though |
| 05:30.30 | Yssaril | Syzgyn: yea it's pretty skewed but you really have to do that otherwise you could be farming old/lowlevel stuff to level this way it is more profitable to farm even/higher level mobs |
| 05:30.51 | Syzgyn | Agreed |
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| 05:31.44 | Syzgyn | Turns out the half-way point is a little past lvl 64 |
| 05:32.24 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 05:37.53 | Shirik | Heh |
| 05:38.09 | Shirik | gotta love logging into guild chat after you miss a raid and asking "how did it go tonight" and the only response you get is |
| 05:38.10 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:38.11 | Shirik | :( |
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| 05:46.50 | Fisker- | deserter |
| 05:46.53 | Fisker- | you're a bad man |
| 05:47.38 | Fisker- | btw we should all just spam the feedback thingy with a request for epic gems on consortium |
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| 05:54.05 | Drundia | I think I want to whine. Combat Log is still all filled with upvalues. SetItemRef is still in it and behaves not quite good with item links (removes suffixes/gems/enchants) |
| 05:55.03 | Fisker- | i thought that was regarded as a feature now |
| 05:57.03 | Drundia | FrameXML SetItemRef doesn't do that |
| 05:57.24 | Drundia | Blizzard_CombatLog one however does |
| 05:58.08 | WobWorking | Sneaky Cairenn is sneaky |
| 05:58.15 | Cairenn | shhhhhh! |
| 05:58.28 | MentalPower | who are you hiding from Cairenn? |
| 05:58.42 | Cairenn | no one, nothing, not me, wasn't here, shhhhh! |
| 05:59.10 | Drundia | purl will tell anyone about you! |
| 05:59.20 | MentalPower | ~seen Cairenn |
| 05:59.22 | purl | cairenn is currently on #wowhead (1d 1h 52m 21s) #norganna (1d 1h 52m 21s) #wowuidev (1d 1h 52m 21s) #wowace (1d 1h 52m 21s) #wowwiki (1d 1h 52m 21s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 40s, last said: 'no one, nothing, not me, wasn't here, shhhhh!'. |
| 05:59.31 | MentalPower | indeed :) |
| 05:59.36 | Drundia | :D |
| 05:59.57 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Cairenn!i=skullsho@conspiracy/developer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
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| 06:00.14 | Shirik | found you |
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| 06:00.19 | Cairenn | told you guys to be quiet! |
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| 06:02.05 | Keias | the dog comment was pretty good though |
| 06:03.13 | Drundia | only 13/17 new messages are gold spam.... hmmm... are we back to pre-2.1 spam? |
| 06:03.13 | ICodeGuud | dog comment? |
| 06:04.12 | ICodeGuud | hahaha Cairenn |
| 06:04.20 | ICodeGuud | I can't read your PM (I assume it's from you) |
| 06:05.17 | Cairenn | ummm, what? |
| 06:05.46 | Fisker- | is it dirty? |
| 06:06.38 | ICodeGuud | You have received a new private message at WoWInterface from Cairenn, entitled "Hey". |
| 06:06.43 | ICodeGuud | but I can't actually see what it says |
| 06:06.56 | Cairenn | *blink* |
| 06:07.01 | sag_ich_nicht | [07:22] <Syzgyn> turns out lvl 44 is only 0.1190% to 70 <--lol |
| 06:07.05 | ICodeGuud | Oh come on Cairenn |
| 06:07.13 | ICodeGuud | seriously, how many people log on to irc using ipv6? |
| 06:07.27 | ICodeGuud | This is why you haven't been able to figure out my clue yet on the site, huh? |
| 06:07.28 | Cairenn | in this channel? |
| 06:07.40 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 06:07.42 | Cairenn | I haven't looked |
| 06:08.08 | Atriace | Brain fart... there's SetStrata and Set___ |
| 06:08.14 | WobWorking | FrameLevel |
| 06:08.19 | Atriace | thank you |
| 06:09.08 | MentalPower | you should not change stratum around tho |
| 06:09.17 | MentalPower | you should set once and leave it |
| 06:09.54 | Shirik | Okay |
| 06:10.04 | Shirik | whomever decided to make that mod that auto-gratses people that get promotions in guild |
| 06:10.13 | Shirik | @#%!%$%@ |
| 06:10.18 | MentalPower | y? |
| 06:10.35 | Shirik | About 10 people in my guild found that mod, and now every time someone logs on or gets invited to guild, I see a spam of guild chat |
| 06:10.47 | Shirik | worse yet, if someone gets invited, we need to pull them past three ranks, so that's about 30 lines of spam |
| 06:10.59 | Shirik | usually being an alt |
| 06:11.13 | Drundia | WorldFrame:SetFrameStrata("TOOLTIP") - one of those cool scripts |
| 06:11.15 | kd3 | so... lay down the law and say "turn it off or get /gkicked"? |
| 06:11.21 | Shirik | Yeah, getting there :P |
| 06:11.33 | durcyn | i do believe that kind of automated spam is grounds for a lobotomy. oh, and gremoval |
| 06:12.36 | Fisker- | Copies Remaining: -1 |
| 06:12.37 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 06:12.40 | Fisker- | why me?! |
| 06:12.56 | Drundia | does it mean you can copy other way? |
| 06:12.59 | kd3 | QA's really having fun with you? |
| 06:13.02 | Drundia | that would be cool! |
| 06:13.12 | Fisker- | it was a blast when you could! >D |
| 06:13.13 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:13.33 | Fisker- | There were some bug in their transfer so you could transfer premades from PTR to live :D |
| 06:14.05 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 06:14.05 | Drundia | why do people always tell me about bugs only when they "were"? :\ |
| 06:14.47 | Fisker- | lol wtf |
| 06:14.53 | Fisker- | my transfer went through |
| 06:15.00 | Fisker- | but now my character is called <name>! |
| 06:15.07 | kd3 | so are you now -2? |
| 06:15.09 | Fisker- | i.e. the exclamation mark |
| 06:15.09 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:15.16 | Fisker- | nooo |
| 06:15.18 | Drundia | "!" = flagged for rename |
| 06:15.30 | Drundia | isn't it? |
| 06:15.41 | Fisker- | why is the other called 9FAB10 after? :P |
| 06:15.50 | sag_ich_nicht | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3773503744&sid=1&pageNo=3 <--someone tell Shadowhex here that it's not taint causing his lag, but omniCCs "pulse" option? |
| 06:15.50 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks |
| 06:16.00 | durcyn | all ptr copies are flagged for rename |
| 06:16.27 | Yssaril | anyone know why i can now (ptr) link a spell where the internall code uses GetQuestSpellLink() but when i do /dump GetQuestSpellLink() with the quest selected it simply returns nil? |
| 06:16.28 | sag_ich_nicht | (pisses me off that that thing causes lag btw., i want that function, but the hangs are unacceptable, especially after being counterspelled as a paldin ><) |
| 06:16.32 | sag_ich_nicht | *paladin |
| 06:16.38 | Fisker- | http://i30.tinypic.com/qs9tmg.jpg <-i see what it did there |
| 06:17.11 | sag_ich_nicht | stop wearing these disgusting mail shoulders. |
| 06:17.30 | Fisker- | they're not mail fgt |
| 06:17.40 | sag_ich_nicht | o RLY |
| 06:17.47 | Fisker- | YA RLY |
| 06:17.49 | sag_ich_nicht | then some mail shoulders have the same graphic. |
| 06:17.56 | Fisker- | yes |
| 06:18.03 | Fisker- | you sure are bright |
| 06:18.11 | Drundia | so many cool guids? |
| 06:18.16 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 06:18.20 | sag_ich_nicht | i totally am Fisker- |
| 06:18.34 | Drundia | maybe because you can't have many characters of the same name? |
| 06:18.51 | Fisker- | yup sag_ich_nicht |
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| 06:18.55 | Fisker- | brightest person in teh world |
| 06:19.01 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 06:19.12 | Drundia | true |
| 06:19.16 | Drundia | they are LEATHER! |
| 06:19.20 | sag_ich_nicht | wait lemme clarify that |
| 06:20.40 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30878 <-how do i played game? |
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| 06:21.59 | Shirik | wow |
| 06:22.07 | Shirik | someone's like "why would you ever put a stamina gem in healing gear" |
| 06:22.09 | Shirik | are you serious? |
| 06:22.17 | Shirik | "I'm a healer, I don't need 8k health" |
| 06:22.18 | Shirik | ... |
| 06:22.23 | sag_ich_nicht | you mean |
| 06:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | 8.5k health |
| 06:22.30 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 06:22.39 | Shirik | some people are stupid |
| 06:22.42 | Drundia | he needs blue gems for his silly meta |
| 06:22.44 | Fisker- | i got so much health that i maintank |
| 06:22.48 | Drundia | because many metas are silly |
| 06:22.53 | sag_ich_nicht | Drundia: violet gems count as blue |
| 06:22.54 | Drundia | and colors of sockets are silly |
| 06:22.57 | Shirik | like those that play pallies and ALL THEY GET IS CRIT |
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| 06:23.12 | sag_ich_nicht | hey shut up crit is gud |
| 06:23.12 | sag_ich_nicht | :X |
| 06:23.13 | Corrodias | i totally recommend you play another game. it's awesome. |
| 06:23.14 | Shirik | and I'm like "great, but how well do you heal when you're dead?" |
| 06:23.18 | Fisker- | 80000g what should i do with that? :o |
| 06:23.18 | kd3 | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/23/ncoke123.xml |
| 06:23.31 | kd3 | WTB video |
| 06:23.40 | Fisker- | do not want |
| 06:23.48 | Corrodias | "The resultant chemical reaction shot hundreds of streams of carbonated soda into the air." |
| 06:23.58 | Fisker- | COME ON |
| 06:24.05 | Fisker- | why do they transfer your character with cooldowns |
| 06:24.06 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 06:24.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: transfer to my server and gimme 5k gold |
| 06:24.22 | Drundia | about gold: 1 year ago: "people are poor, let's make dailies so they can become rich", now: "people are rich, we need money sinks.... PERFECT IDEA: sell them TITLES!" |
| 06:24.22 | Corrodias | "In a related story, 50 students die in Belgium from Carbon Dioxide poisoning." |
| 06:24.23 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 06:24.27 | Fisker- | got 9450 hp unbuffed rawr |
| 06:24.29 | Fisker- | no sag_ich_nicht |
| 06:24.30 | Fisker- | NEVER |
| 06:24.40 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 06:24.45 | Fisker- | not even if you were the first man on mars |
| 06:24.50 | Shirik | eew, wtf is that |
| 06:24.59 | Shirik | oh wow I guess that's right |
| 06:25.02 | Shirik | damn, my health is low |
| 06:25.08 | Shirik | oh well, buffed I have 10k, that's all that matters |
| 06:25.38 | sag_ich_nicht | !c EU Gul'dan Ruknor |
| 06:26.03 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 06:26.06 | sag_ich_nicht | i didn't log buffed |
| 06:26.07 | sag_ich_nicht | uncool |
| 06:26.36 | sag_ich_nicht | that should read 2204 AP :( |
| 06:26.36 | Fisker- | i can reach 12,9k buffed |
| 06:26.57 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:27.26 | Fisker- | AWESOME |
| 06:27.33 | Fisker- | repair dude just next to the aldor inn |
| 06:31.13 | Fisker- | btw |
| 06:31.16 | Fisker- | when we think of it |
| 06:31.24 | Fisker- | lets ban blizzard for RMT |
| 06:32.52 | Atriace | What the? |
| 06:33.01 | Fisker- | the monument quest |
| 06:33.14 | Atriace | You can't Frame:RegisterForClicks() ? |
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| 06:34.12 | Yssaril | Atriace: has to be a button not a frame |
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| 06:34.58 | MentalPower | yeah, at that point, you want a button, not a frame :) |
| 06:35.00 | Yssaril | Atriace: though you could prolly work soemthing out with EnableMouse but going the button route tends to be easier :) |
| 06:35.07 | MentalPower | yup |
| 06:35.36 | Atriace | I'm assuming there's a CreateButton() function around, but I can't find it. |
| 06:36.03 | MentalPower | nop |
| 06:36.06 | MentalPower | its a frame type |
| 06:36.11 | durcyn | CreateFrame("Button",... |
| 06:36.13 | Yssaril | createframe('button') |
| 06:36.14 | MentalPower | CreateFrame("Button") |
| 06:36.17 | MentalPower | lol |
| 06:36.18 | Atriace | ah right. duh |
| 06:36.54 | Yssaril | Atriace: and dont be lazy like me and caps the stuff otherwise it wont work :P |
| 06:37.03 | Atriace | Kinda seems odd to "CreateFrame" when it's not a frame. :) |
| 06:37.28 | Yssaril | Atriace: but it is a frame :) just not a frame frame btu a button frame :) |
| 06:37.53 | Yssaril | its a frame with some stuff added to it to make it easier to make buttons |
| 06:38.39 | Atriace | magic... |
| 06:38.59 | Atriace | Dude, my buff bar is finished! woohoo |
| 06:39.02 | MentalPower | it *is* a frame tho |
| 06:39.11 | MentalPower | a button is a kind os frame |
| 06:39.15 | MentalPower | s/os/of/ |
| 06:39.40 | MentalPower | ./dump CreateFrame("Button"):IsObjectType("Frame") |
| 06:39.46 | Atriace | MentalPower: like an XML template derived from a frame? |
| 06:39.53 | MentalPower | no |
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| 06:40.13 | MentalPower | think of it as a hierarchy of widgets |
| 06:40.20 | MentalPower | frames are at the top |
| 06:40.37 | MentalPower | buttons are below frames |
| 06:40.48 | MentalPower | checkboxes are below buttons |
| 06:40.57 | MentalPower | but even checkboxes are frames |
| 06:41.03 | MentalPower | and checkboxes are buttons too |
| 06:41.13 | Atriace | interesting |
| 06:41.15 | MentalPower | its all in the widget API page on the wiki |
| 06:41.32 | Yssaril | Atriace: yep check out http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API for all wowwidgets |
| 06:41.57 | Yssaril | anyone know why i can now (ptr) link a spell where the internall code uses GetQuestSpellLink() but when i do /dump GetQuestSpellLink() with the quest selected it simply returns nil? |
| 06:42.21 | Fisker- | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.4.2/Undocumented_changes#World_environment |
| 06:42.36 | kd3 | hm? |
| 06:42.52 | Fisker- | since the npc doesn't exist yet should i add something else or something? :P |
| 06:43.24 | kd3 | doesn't exist yet? |
| 06:43.36 | Fisker- | on the wiki |
| 06:43.51 | kd3 | shift-reload. i added em |
| 06:44.10 | kd3 | oh, I needed to shift reload |
| 06:44.16 | Fisker- | :D |
| 06:44.43 | kd3 | you can if you want. I'll get to it later tomorrow at some point |
| 06:44.49 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 06:46.09 | zenzio | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/north_west/7360871.stm -- beware the drunk Darth Vader |
| 06:47.21 | Fisker- | what should faction be kd3? |
| 06:47.49 | kd3 | neutral, affiliation=Aldor |
| 06:47.54 | Crysli | zenzio: Star Wars fans are fun. =D |
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| 06:49.11 | durcyn | oh, hey, chat settings save and UNIT_DIED works. and it only took six weeks. |
| 06:51.31 | Kemayo | It was a very complicated change. |
| 06:51.51 | Gngsk | kergoth, is ticktock ready for some testing? |
| 06:51.56 | MentalPower | ~stab durcyn |
| 06:51.57 | purl | ACTION runs at durcyn with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:52.25 | Zyuu | ~stab MentalPower |
| 06:52.26 | purl | ACTION runs at MentalPower with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:52.45 | Zyuu | can purl give out vodka? |
| 06:53.12 | MentalPower | ~vodka Zyuu |
| 06:53.25 | MentalPower | ~listkeys stab |
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| 06:53.35 | AbsoRayne | eeeeee got my first piece of T6! |
| 06:53.35 | Zyuu | ~beer MentalPower |
| 06:53.36 | purl | ACTION pours a pint of Franziskaner Hefeweizen for MentalPower |
| 06:53.41 | Zyuu | HAH |
| 06:53.52 | Zyuu | what piece did you get? |
| 06:54.01 | kergoth | Gngsk: should be, it works for me on my rogue and druid |
| 06:54.04 | AbsoRayne | My tanking leggings |
| 06:54.20 | kergoth | Gngsk: has all the options kenergy had but 'show when' and showing energy/cp on the bar |
| 06:54.24 | Gngsk | kergoth, where can I check it out? Also your cgit seems funky. |
| 06:54.40 | kergoth | oh, yeah, i need to switch |
| 06:54.48 | kergoth | i'm using gitosis for my git repo setup now |
| 06:54.52 | kergoth | http://git.kergoth.com:81/ for the browse interface |
| 06:54.53 | Gngsk | k |
| 06:54.56 | kergoth | you can grab a snapshot from there |
| 06:54.59 | Gngsk | thx |
| 06:55.18 | Zyuu | sexy |
| 06:55.21 | Gngsk | also, I'd love to see show when stealthed only not ticking. something I don't think was in kenergy |
| 06:55.21 | Zyuu | tankadin huh |
| 06:55.39 | Zyuu | we have git support in curseforge now :) |
| 06:55.53 | durcyn | does registration work yet? :> |
| 06:55.57 | Zyuu | yes |
| 06:56.02 | Zyuu | well it did earlier |
| 06:56.09 | Zyuu | I have no idea what's been changed since though |
| 06:56.24 | Zyuu | couple of new news up and we keep a channel as well if curious (just whois me) |
| 07:00.58 | kergoth | Gngsk: timing your opener with the tick isn't of much use anymore, since the first tick after it isn't always 20 anymore, prorated |
| 07:01.10 | kergoth | dont see much point in only showing in stealth anymore |
| 07:01.18 | Gngsk | I haven't noticed that |
| 07:01.20 | kergoth | but it wouldnt be hard to add if you wanted it |
| 07:01.44 | kergoth | "As of patch 2.2, when your rate of regeneration changes (e.g. you cast Evocate, or Spirit Tap procs, or you exit/enter the FSR, etc.), your ticks are pro-rated for the amount of time spent at the old and new rates." |
| 07:01.45 | kergoth | "This is because when they initiate an attack, their regen rate goes from 0 -> 20 energy/tick. Depending when their opener happens to land, the first tick could be anything from 0 to 20 energy returned (average of 10), whereas previously it would always be 20." |
| 07:02.15 | kergoth | if you attack 0.5 seconds before the tick, that tick will only give you 5 energy, not 20 (25%) |
| 07:02.38 | Gngsk | I thought that was reverted, I've never ever seen a 5 energy tick after an opener |
| 07:03.00 | kergoth | hmm, really? maybe i'm wrong, it's easy enough to add the feature if we need it, i structured it so it could be added |
| 07:03.09 | Gngsk | k |
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| 07:09.57 | ramoz | Zyuu: didnt get the channel from your whois :O |
| 07:15.27 | durcyn | #curseforge iirc |
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| 07:19.46 | kd3 | all hail UnitGUID() |
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| 07:20.47 | Fisker- | no u :D |
| 07:20.52 | Fisker- | i came up with it |
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| 07:24.44 | Wraanger | heyaz |
| 07:24.53 | Cairenn | hi |
| 07:28.36 | Wraanger | please clarify one things for me, ppl ... if I parent one frame to another frame .... frame level of "child" will be lower that it's parent ? ie if I got two panels, which one will be shown on top ? |
| 07:30.25 | MentalPower | the children will usually be on top |
| 07:30.41 | MentalPower | unless you mess with stratum/level |
| 07:31.49 | Wraanger | strata for all frames will be BACKGROUND |
| 07:32.08 | Wraanger | (those are just chat decorations ... ) |
| 07:34.38 | [melin] | then the kids should be on top.. |
| 07:34.41 | [melin] | sounds wrong :D |
| 07:40.31 | Wraanger | bad, bad melin ..... what kind of thoughts you have ? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
| 07:41.29 | Zootfizzle | Hmm |
| 07:42.03 | Zootfizzle | That's a HUUUGE smile ;) |
| 07:43.30 | kd3 | o_O; |
| 07:43.45 | kd3 | and gah at my mouse batteries being nearly dead. guess that's as good of a hint to crash |
| 07:44.08 | Zootfizzle | G'night kd3 ;) |
| 07:45.39 | Wraanger | gn |
| 07:45.58 | Cairenn | night kd3, sweet dreams |
| 07:48.02 | Wraanger | so, if i have 4 panels .... with Panel1 being the top one, i should parent them like Panel4>Panel3>Panel2>Panel1 ? |
| 07:49.22 | Zootfizzle | It's not quite that simple |
| 07:52.36 | Zootfizzle | Do you want to be able to see Panel 2 without seeing Panel 3? |
| 07:54.03 | Wraanger | let's simplify things )) http://www.omfgwtflol.com/caith.jpg << chat boxes |
| 07:55.07 | [melin] | whats the name of the paperclip doll that shows broken armor? |
| 07:56.00 | Zootfizzle | Pretty sure it's DurabilityFrame |
| 07:56.13 | Wraanger | DurabilityFrame |
| 07:57.03 | [melin] | thanks |
| 07:59.00 | sag_ich_nicht | faster than grep! |
| 08:00.15 | [melin] | meh.. how do I make it movable? some addon of mine moved it outside of bounds and I cant get it back |
| 08:00.18 | sag_ich_nicht | also, on that note: fuck you GCC4 |
| 08:00.59 | Zootfizzle | Grats? |
| 08:01.15 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm just trying to compile prozilla >_< |
| 08:01.18 | Wraanger | DurabilityFrame:ClearAllPoints() |
| 08:01.18 | Zootfizzle | [melin]: Type this: /script DurabilityFrame:SetUserPlaced(false); |
| 08:01.21 | sag_ich_nicht | because aget is broken >< |
| 08:01.29 | Zootfizzle | Then /console reloadui |
| 08:01.34 | Zootfizzle | It should go back to its default position |
| 08:01.42 | Wraanger | DurabilityFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",UIParent,"TOPLEFT",20,20) ) |
| 08:01.43 | [melin] | Zootfizzle thanks |
| 08:01.57 | sag_ich_nicht | so Zootfizzle about those internal strings being exposed in the combatlog |
| 08:02.25 | Zootfizzle | I can see your underwear sometimes but I don't tell you because I'm polite. |
| 08:02.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i doubt that |
| 08:02.50 | Zootfizzle | You caught me ;) |
| 08:02.58 | sag_ich_nicht | no i mean |
| 08:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm not wearing underwear that you could see sometimes |
| 08:03.10 | sag_ich_nicht | so |
| 08:03.12 | sag_ich_nicht | no. |
| 08:03.27 | sag_ich_nicht | aedaslökfaslödklöasd now he used DL_Window:: somewhere is in the source |
| 08:03.38 | sag_ich_nicht | i want to hang that person |
| 08:05.13 | Cairenn | ooookay, wtf is going on with the Blizz account page? |
| 08:05.34 | Cairenn | it won't keep me logged in |
| 08:08.26 | sag_ich_nicht | whoever wrote this needs to be shot |
| 08:10.29 | sag_ich_nicht | gah screws this |
| 08:11.07 | Zootfizzle | The pro part comes from having to fix the source code and compile it yourself, I assume. |
| 08:11.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ya -.- |
| 08:11.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i could also just revert |
| 08:11.30 | sag_ich_nicht | and use gcc3 to compile it |
| 08:11.42 | sag_ich_nicht | but uhm... just no. |
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| 08:15.30 | Maldivia | hmm... boo... \n no longer disconnects :( |
| 08:18.59 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: ping |
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| 08:30.38 | durcyn | hmm, is a nested if inside a pairs() loop really faster than a table[foo] lookup? |
| 08:32.28 | Maldivia | really depends what you're doing |
| 08:33.42 | Maldivia | what are you trying to do? |
| 08:35.43 | durcyn | just calling another function on any key match right now, based on the documentation i've found it seems pairs() skips getn() at least, hmm |
| 08:36.54 | Maldivia | so something like: for k,v in pairs(t) do if k == something or k == somethingElse then doSomething(v) end end |
| 08:37.13 | durcyn | basically, yes. as opposed to if table[key] then |
| 08:37.47 | Maldivia | direct lookup should be faster than the loop |
| 08:38.22 | Maldivia | or well, really depends on the size of your table and the size of the "check-list" |
| 08:38.37 | durcyn | i keep seeing mention of pairs() skipping the table lookup entirely, which leads me to wonder if the difference is meaningful |
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| 08:40.19 | Maldivia | well, pairs still looks in the table, but it probably does so in the internal list in an ordered fashion, so there's no hash-lookup in the table |
| 08:40.37 | Maldivia | can't remember how pairs and next is constructed (they basically do the same thing) |
| 08:43.07 | MentalPower | lua> pairs({}) |
| 08:43.08 | lua_bot | MentalPower: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x63d7d0, nil |
| 08:43.34 | MentalPower | basically thats pairs({}) == next, {}, nil |
| 08:43.52 | Maldivia | lua> next |
| 08:43.52 | lua_bot | Maldivia: function: 0x629a80 |
| 08:44.39 | Maldivia | that's why for k,v in pairs(t) do and for k,v in next, t do is the same thing |
| 08:46.06 | MentalPower|ZZzz | true |
| 08:46.14 | [melin] | whats the "command" to make a frame movable? |
| 08:46.18 | Maldivia | although, the latter can be used to continue a previous interrupted loop |
| 08:46.28 | Maldivia | frame:SetMovable(true) |
| 08:47.17 | Maldivia | for k,v in next, t, continueFrom do something(k,v) end |
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| 08:47.27 | [melin] | thanks |
| 08:47.56 | Wraanger | so, back to the parenting question )) |
| 08:50.15 | Maldivia | if you want something to appear behind the parent, you have to do something like frame:SetFrameLevel(frame:GetParent():GetFrameLevel() - 1) |
| 08:51.53 | Wraanger | what i want to do with those frames is pictured here : http://www.omfgwtflol.com/caith.jpg << look at the right and left chatboxes ... |
| 08:52.10 | [melin] | FFS! some of the addons are moving the durability frame all the time ! |
| 08:52.36 | Wraanger | melin : do DurabilityFrame.SetPoint = function() end |
| 08:52.37 | Maldivia | [melin]: that would be the default UI doing that :) |
| 08:52.57 | durcyn | Wraanger: that's most likely done the easy way with eepanels or the like |
| 08:53.00 | [melin] | no.. it moves it so I can only see half he figurine.. |
| 08:53.04 | [melin] | on the bottom of the screen |
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| 08:53.31 | Wraanger | because it is anchored to the minimap ..and you have minimap at the bottom I assume |
| 08:54.08 | [melin] | ah true.. *slaps self* |
| 08:54.14 | Maldivia | everytime the UI calls FramePositionDelegate:UIParentManageFramePositions(), the durability frame's position is reset |
| 08:54.17 | Wraanger | durcyn : nah, I don't want to use eePanels for this =) setting up a few panels in lua is easier |
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| 08:55.02 | [melin] | so if I set /script DurabilityFrame:SetUserPlaced(false); to true - it wont? |
| 08:55.29 | [melin] | or should I change its anchor instead? |
| 08:55.35 | Wraanger | i have done those panels without parenting ..just by toying with SetFrameLevel ..but ...if I want to move it, I need to move all 4 .... i figured it would be easier if I parent them and just move the parent |
| 08:55.51 | Maldivia | [melin]: will still, either disable the SetPoint, or posthoole the above fundtion, and reset the position to your liking |
| 08:55.59 | Maldivia | posthook* |
| 08:56.00 | [melin] | ok |
| 08:56.30 | Maldivia | same applies to the quest timer and tracker frames |
| 08:56.45 | [melin] | tracker frames is covered already.. |
| 08:56.50 | [melin] | by CT I think |
| 08:57.17 | durcyn | Wraanger: well, it seems to be a single tooltip frame with a custom border set, if that's any help |
| 08:58.26 | Maldivia | Wraanger: considered creating a backdrop/edge texture, and just set that on the frame, instead of creating seperate frames for the border? |
| 08:59.02 | Wraanger | Maldivia: umm ..my gfx skills are ....... ummm ...a bit lower than absolute zero ... |
| 08:59.05 | [melin] | DurabilityFrame:SetParent("my button here") - wont work.. does it require a /reload= |
| 08:59.06 | [melin] | ? |
| 08:59.16 | wereHamster | no |
| 08:59.43 | [melin] | cause the DuraFrame wont follow my button when I move it around.. and Movable is true on DuraFrame |
| 08:59.53 | Maldivia | [melin]: DurabilityFrame:SetPoint("TOPRIGHT", "MinimapCluster", "BOTTOMRIGHT", -CONTAINER_OFFSET_X-durabilityOffset, anchorY); |
| 09:00.10 | Maldivia | that's the code the UI runs often |
| 09:00.24 | Maldivia | and a frame doesn't follow its parent, it follows its anchors |
| 09:00.32 | wereHamster | DurabilityFrame:SetParent(yourbutton); DurabilityFrame:ClearAllPoints(); DurabilityFrame:SetPoint("CENTER", yourbutton) |
| 09:01.39 | [melin] | hmm.. do I need to repeat that all the time or will base UI stop moving it? :D |
| 09:02.09 | Maldivia | base ui will never stop moving it |
| 09:02.17 | Wraanger | brb |
| 09:02.35 | [melin] | so I need to make an OnUpdate function to make sure it stays then |
| 09:02.43 | durcyn | just out of curiosity, [melin], what are you using to move your minimap? |
| 09:03.00 | [Ammo] | DurabilityFrame:SetPoint( wherever you want it) DurabilityFrame.SetPoint = function() end |
| 09:03.02 | wereHamster | override the SetPoint function, do nothing if it gets called from blizzard code, set the point when you call it |
| 09:03.03 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 09:03.18 | Maldivia | [melin]: as I said, just add a post hook to the function I mentioned, or change t he SetPoint function |
| 09:03.27 | [melin] | yeaps |
| 09:03.38 | [Ammo] | or check out SmoothDurability [melin] (it has the option to freely move the armored man and have him gradient colored etc) :) |
| 09:03.43 | [Ammo] | </shameless plug> |
| 09:03.48 | [melin] | Im using Mappy |
| 09:03.51 | [melin] | for the minimap |
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| 09:26.05 | kergoth | Gngsk: okay, try the latest version whenever you have a chance, there are three 'shown' options that i think should cover all the use cases |
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| 11:10.42 | sag_ich_nicht | i need a proper addon profiler, not like performance fu that shits itself because of tabletlib |
| 11:10.43 | sag_ich_nicht | suggestions? |
| 11:11.59 | Srosh | OptionHouse? |
| 11:12.03 | [Ammo] | OptionHouse |
| 11:12.35 | Moov | hello, can somebody tell me how to concatenate strings in LUA to get a valid objectname of a woW widget that is usable with the widget methods. Example, i have a frame myFrame with a fontstring name $parentLabel, in a LUA function i want to dynamicaly use this:GetName().."Label" to call the methods of the fontstring |
| 11:12.53 | [melin] | GetGlobal? |
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| 11:13.43 | Moov | thx, seems to be that, sry, first day trying to dev addons, noob question, sry |
| 11:13.54 | [melin] | =) |
| 11:14.01 | [melin] | we're all noobs at start |
| 11:15.05 | Moov | ;-) |
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| 11:30.03 | sag_ich_nicht | optionhouse is completely useless, it closes itself in combat, making the whole profiling pointless -.- |
| 11:30.49 | sag_ich_nicht | other suggestions? -.- |
| 11:31.10 | [melin] | what are you after? |
| 11:31.29 | sag_ich_nicht | addons eating my CPU usage while in combat. |
| 11:31.32 | sag_ich_nicht | which i can |
| 11:31.47 | sag_ich_nicht | *which i can't really do when the damn profiler closes itself in combat |
| 11:32.04 | Mikk | so what makes fubar_performancefu so useless? |
| 11:34.21 | reqol | you could try http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7362-AddonUsage.html but it doesn't auto update, so you have to use the Update button |
| 11:42.04 | Crysli | OK, so I'm still learning about this addon making thing. Could anyone suggest an excercise or an addon I could try making that would be really helpful? |
| 11:43.28 | reqol | Crysli: I'm guessing you've been learning from http://lua.org/pil ? |
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| 11:46.00 | [melin] | Crysli uhmm.. make an addon that shows coords by the minimap or something? |
| 11:46.01 | Mikk | Crysli: best practice is modifying existing addons to do something you want |
| 11:46.35 | [melin] | my practice was to make an addon that cleared my bags from gray trash when I visit a vendor |
| 11:46.35 | Crysli | Mikk: But... I don't want to do anything :'( |
| 11:46.55 | Crysli | [melin]: already did that. |
| 11:47.14 | [melin] | now that addon also autobuys one item by choice (for me its ammo), auto-repairs and learns what my pet can eat and performs an emote when I feed the pet |
| 11:47.36 | reqol | wamogri? |
| 11:47.46 | [melin] | wamogri? |
| 11:47.53 | reqol | nothing ;_;, sorry |
| 11:48.06 | Crysli | [melin]: Think I could have a look at that addon? My restocking addon is still giving me a little trouble. |
| 11:48.30 | [melin] | sure |
| 11:48.36 | Crysli | Great :) |
| 11:48.38 | reqol | does anyone know of an addon that uses a slider and not a scrollframe inheriting fauxscrollframe? |
| 11:48.41 | [melin] | I think I have an updated version over at warmag.net |
| 11:48.43 | reqol | I'm trying to figure out how to make one |
| 11:50.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:32] <Mikk> so what makes fubar_performancefu so useless? <--tabletlib shooting up like hell each time i try to read it out :P |
| 11:50.45 | Mikk | so erm ignore the tabletlib numbers? |
| 11:51.29 | sag_ich_nicht | that will work fine reqol, thanks :P (i could have found that myself tho >.>) |
| 11:52.22 | reqol | of course! |
| 11:52.40 | [melin] | anyone have a table with all zones and what country they belong to? |
| 11:52.52 | [melin] | Im gonna make myself an addon that scans WorldDefence |
| 11:53.03 | [melin] | and highlights events thats close to me :P |
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| 11:55.24 | sag_ich_nicht | [melin] that sounds good |
| 11:55.27 | sag_ich_nicht | gimme that |
| 11:55.42 | sag_ich_nicht | and make it hide world defense while you're at it :P |
| 11:55.47 | [melin] | I need a table of zones first - unless I make the addon learn the zones as you play |
| 11:55.49 | Cide | what the hell are they doing to the forum dropdown? |
| 11:56.03 | [melin] | just remove the channel from the chatframe sag_ich_nicht? |
| 11:56.23 | reqol | Cide: I wondered the same thing, it bothers me : ( |
| 11:56.33 | reqol | it was fine before, no need to change it o_o |
| 11:56.35 | [melin] | what forum? and what dropdown? |
| 11:56.41 | reqol | the WoW forums |
| 11:56.49 | Crysli | and what are they doing? |
| 11:56.58 | reqol | they changed the order of the subforums in its index |
| 11:57.18 | reqol | so if you knew where the paladin forums (like I did) were on the list, you are now driving blind until you get used to the new list |
| 11:57.37 | Crysli | Meh class forums :/ |
| 11:58.09 | reqol | the UI forums position changed, as well |
| 11:58.19 | reqol | along with most, if not all other forums |
| 11:58.27 | Crysli | Not that it's hard to find it again |
| 11:58.50 | reqol | no, it most definitely isn't. but I was accustomed to its position and it is still a very minor inconvenience |
| 11:58.54 | [melin] | .-. I cant see anything changed..? |
| 11:58.56 | reqol | not that I am upset with blizard |
| 11:59.43 | Crysli | reqol: you should totally make a whine post about it |
| 11:59.53 | Crysli | It probably wouldn't be noticd though |
| 11:59.54 | reqol | in all caps, IMO |
| 12:00.16 | Crysli | And an amazing amount of exclamation marks |
| 12:00.33 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:56] <[melin]> just remove the channel from the chatframe sag_ich_nicht? <--meeeeh |
| 12:00.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [13:55] <[melin]> I need a table of zones first - unless I make the addon learn the zones as you play <--there's a table on the wiki |
| 12:01.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i think |
| 12:01.23 | Mikk | libtourist |
| 12:01.27 | sag_ich_nicht | or that |
| 12:01.35 | Mikk | since you'll want to know which zones are actually close |
| 12:02.58 | [melin] | sag_ich_nicht ok - checking wowwiki then |
| 12:03.12 | sag_ich_nicht | not sure tho |
| 12:03.28 | sag_ich_nicht | but you can probably use libtourist mostly [melin] |
| 12:03.32 | [melin] | Mikk is that an addon or a library? |
| 12:03.38 | sag_ich_nicht | LIBtourist |
| 12:03.43 | sag_ich_nicht | what you think it is? :P |
| 12:03.46 | [melin] | =) |
| 12:03.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart [melin] |
| 12:03.51 | purl | moos at [melin] |
| 12:03.56 | sag_ich_nicht | weak lart. |
| 12:04.05 | sag_ich_nicht | damn it purl |
| 12:04.07 | [melin] | ok ok - that was a stupid question |
| 12:04.23 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart [melin] |
| 12:04.23 | purl | pries [melin]'s back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to [melin] |
| 12:04.29 | sag_ich_nicht | ha! |
| 12:04.48 | [melin] | hehe |
| 12:04.55 | [melin] | irc bots can be tons of fun.. |
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| 12:05.10 | [melin] | I made a spin-bottle bot once.. |
| 12:05.13 | [melin] | that was fun :D |
| 12:05.35 | Crysli | ~spin [melin] |
| 12:05.36 | purl | ACTION spins [melin] |
| 12:05.40 | Crysli | Yay! |
| 12:06.01 | [melin] | sonnofa! |
| 12:06.27 | Crysli | D= |
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| 12:09.11 | [melin] | ouch.. |
| 12:09.18 | [melin] | it better be unused! |
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| 12:10.36 | Crysli | Hey |
| 12:10.54 | Crysli | It's been two minutes between you hurling it at me and me hurling it back |
| 12:10.59 | Crysli | Even I'm not that fast. |
| 12:11.12 | [melin] | well.. depends on timezones doesnt it? |
| 12:11.30 | [melin] | when did you get it? |
| 12:11.43 | Crysli | 14:06 * [melin] hurls a inflatable doll at Crysli |
| 12:11.53 | [melin] | crap.. same timezone |
| 12:11.59 | [melin] | could've been such good joke there |
| 12:12.03 | Crysli | ^_^ |
| 12:12.30 | [melin] | odds were 1:23 .. and I lose? :( |
| 12:13.16 | reqol | I'm trying to create a slider. so far I've gotten the buttons done, but I'm struggling elsewhere. the actual slider texture, the little bar thing (which I presume is a ThumbTexture), getting it to move, etc. |
| 12:14.11 | [melin] | reqol its easy: Button:OnClick(function() { Move The Damn Slider or I will cancel my darn account!; }); |
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| 12:15.15 | reqol | melin: aye, I don't think I'll have much trouble with that when I come to it. I just can't seem to get an aesthetically-finished slider bar |
| 12:15.25 | [melin] | oh |
| 12:15.31 | [melin] | make yer own textures? |
| 12:15.32 | reqol | http://wowi.pastey.net/86424 |
| 12:15.53 | reqol | that's what I have so far |
| 12:16.05 | reqol | if there were more documentation on wowwiki I'd be using that |
| 12:17.56 | [melin] | and the problem is? :P |
| 12:18.17 | [melin] | hmm.. is there any Render XML files applications? so you can build an interface and see the results without using WoW? |
| 12:19.59 | [melin] | oh well.. Im gonna go draw on paper a bit.. make a function to actually find out how big the countries are.. |
| 12:23.38 | Bela|work | http://wdnaddons.com/2418124/FrameXML/UIPanelTemplates.xml @ 125 |
| 12:23.43 | Bela|work | reqol: |
| 12:24.16 | Bela|work | oh wait |
| 12:24.21 | Bela|work | thats a scrollbar |
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| 12:27.02 | reqol | Bela|work: well, I've seen that before, but I'll take a look anyway, I probably missed something. thanks!! : ) |
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| 12:36.11 | Bela|work | is that what you are trying to make? a scrollbar? |
| 12:36.23 | reqol | yes, exactly |
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| 12:36.50 | reqol | right now I can't seem to get the texture to fit to my specifications. it stops short of the buttons, just under them. |
| 12:37.08 | Bela|work | you are missing the gutter |
| 12:38.10 | Bela|work | is the ThumbTexture there? or do you have that somewhere else |
| 12:38.43 | [melin] | hmm.. is there any global coords for the player? |
| 12:38.55 | reqol | I threw out the thumbtexture because it wasn't showing up |
| 12:39.04 | reqol | at least for now, until I get this texture workin |
| 12:39.10 | reqol | s/workin/working/ |
| 12:42.19 | Bela|work | I think part of the problem is that the slider itself isn't what holds the background, I think the Scrollframe does |
| 12:44.23 | Bela|work | http://wdnaddons.com/2418124/AddOns/Blizzard_AuctionUI/Blizzard_AuctionUI.xml @ 390 |
| 12:44.57 | Bela|work | Interface\PaperDollInfoFrame\UI-Character-ScrollBar |
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| 12:45.17 | Saint-N | man what an awesome thing to see in email after a megadeth concert last night |
| 12:45.26 | Saint-N | Judas Priest / Heaven and Hell / Motorhead / Testament |
| 12:45.36 | Saint-N | must go to that |
| 12:48.42 | Polarina | Zootfizzle is here. :P |
| 12:49.21 | [melin] | right.. I can get coords for the player and zone - but is there coords for player and world? |
| 12:49.37 | Saint-N | you can pretend |
| 12:49.47 | Saint-N | the coords for players is a made up value |
| 12:49.54 | [melin] | ? |
| 12:49.59 | Saint-N | its not real game data |
| 12:50.05 | Saint-N | its entirely derived |
| 12:50.21 | [melin] | yes... but how can I pretend world coords? |
| 12:50.40 | Saint-N | figure out how ya wanna world map it? |
| 12:51.24 | Saint-N | and start at 0,0 top left and create your own grid on the continent maps |
| 12:51.28 | [melin] | well.. since different zones have different sizes I cant really use zone coords to check distance between point A and point B |
| 12:51.37 | Saint-N | you can sorta |
| 12:51.49 | Saint-N | ya know the map you get when you're not actually in a zone? |
| 12:51.54 | Saint-N | like say the great sea? |
| 12:51.57 | [melin] | yea? |
| 12:52.00 | Saint-N | use that as your big map |
| 12:52.05 | [melin] | hmm.. |
| 12:52.12 | [melin] | true |
| 12:52.27 | Saint-N | you can create a x,y map from that and corellate it with what the "area" coords on yer addon say |
| 12:52.53 | Saint-N | its not gonna be super accurate by any stretch since its really just a picture and not game data |
| 12:53.05 | [melin] | wont have to =) |
| 12:53.06 | Saint-N | but its about the opnly "decent" way to do it |
| 12:53.39 | [melin] | just need a simple way to determine if its any use to go to say... Hammerfall when its under attack or if Im atleast 30min from there |
| 12:59.40 | Saint-N | most times i'd say no ;P |
| 13:00.02 | Saint-N | for travel it's prolly easier just to record the flight times |
| 13:00.07 | Saint-N | as you take em |
| 13:00.32 | Saint-N | and use that as a general marker along with the area/zone maps |
| 13:02.45 | krka | check out astrolabe |
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| 13:21.16 | Mikk | [melin]: idd, check out astrolabe. it's kinda made for that. |
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| 13:30.05 | Saint-N | astro labia? |
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| 13:30.31 | [melin] | Mikk thanks |
| 13:32.15 | [melin] | Mikk cant find it :( |
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| 13:36.18 | Mikk | [melin]: http://svn.norganna.org/gatherer/trunk/Gatherer/Astrolabe/ |
| 13:36.56 | [melin] | well.. all I want from it is how they get distance from point A to B :P |
| 13:37.13 | Mikk | You want the whole library |
| 13:37.29 | Mikk | It contains hardcoded info about every zone |
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| 13:38.18 | [melin] | ah |
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| 13:42.26 | hillie | hi.. is there any possible way to check to see if a certain bag is open? ie. in order to do a check before ToggleBag(n) |
| 13:44.11 | [melin] | I guess.. you can use GetGlobal and the name of the bagframes.. and check if the name matches name of bag n etc |
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| 13:46.05 | [melin] | but why check? toggle will open it if closed and close it if opened? |
| 13:46.55 | Mikk | Or just force it shown if you want it shown |
| 13:46.59 | Mikk | Or closed if you want it closed |
| 13:47.34 | [melin] | but... |
| 13:47.42 | Mikk | go look in the framexml and see what ToggleBag() does |
| 13:47.45 | [melin] | if it aint open.. you click to get it opened? |
| 13:48.08 | Mikk | i'm assuming he programmatically wants to either open or close bags |
| 13:48.12 | Mikk | and thought he has to use togglebag |
| 13:48.15 | Mikk | which isn't exactly true |
| 13:48.36 | [melin] | togglebag aint an API function is it? |
| 13:48.45 | Mikk | no, framexml |
| 13:48.53 | Mikk | hence my suggestion to just go read framexml, and see what it does to open/close bags |
| 13:48.56 | Mikk | and then just open/close |
| 13:50.27 | hillie | mikk, you're right :) |
| 13:51.24 | hillie | What I'm doing is a keybinding that opens all bags except the backpack, and if the backpack isn't open, opens that as well. I want the backpack always there for quest items, etc. |
| 13:52.17 | hillie | if somehow the BP closes or another bag gets closed, then togglebag would open the bag that's closed and close the rest |
| 13:52.42 | [melin] | isnt it easier to hook the close function ..? I dunno :D |
| 13:52.51 | hillie | mikk, what is framexml? |
| 13:53.13 | hillie | I'm new to wowuidev and basically going off the wowwiki api page |
| 13:54.09 | [melin] | hillie thats how I started aswell =) |
| 13:54.16 | [melin] | wowwiki/WoW_API is my bible |
| 13:54.42 | hillie | i found framexml.. the blizz iface data folder right? |
| 13:57.06 | hillie | can you use any functions seen in framexml in your addons? |
| 13:57.11 | Mikk | ~framexml |
| 13:57.12 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 13:57.12 | Saint-N | heh hillie not to ruin yer fun but sanity bags can be set like that |
| 13:57.25 | Saint-N | to basically have a "watch pack" |
| 13:57.33 | hillie | I see an IsBagOpen(1) iside ToggleBackpack() |
| 13:57.52 | Mikk | Yeah you can use basically anything you see in framexml |
| 13:58.00 | hillie | sweet |
| 13:58.05 | Mikk | But the more internal the function looks, the higher the chance that it'll disappear in some future patch |
| 13:58.10 | Mikk | Or be renamed |
| 13:58.12 | Mikk | Or function differently |
| 13:58.13 | Mikk | etc |
| 13:58.33 | Mikk | IsBagOpen() looks safe enuf tho :) |
| 13:58.52 | [melin] | what file contains the blizz xml stuff? |
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| 14:00.01 | Mikk | framexml |
| 14:00.04 | hillie | saint-n, it won't :) |
| 14:02.16 | hillie | i think i remember sanity2 and sanity bags but can't find it anywhere now. |
| 14:03.13 | hillie | is there any way to have better debugging? |
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| 14:11.04 | Saint-N | sanitybags should be on the wowace site |
| 14:11.41 | Saint-N | you can basically make custom bags and put em whereever watching whatever |
| 14:11.49 | Saint-N | its pretty handy for quest crap |
| 14:13.28 | Hjalte | ~seen tuller |
| 14:13.30 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 15h 37m 46s ago, saying: 'out as in style?'. |
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| 14:21.02 | hillie | saint, i'm looking to create something a bit simpler |
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| 14:22.57 | Saint-N | but its powerful! |
| 14:23.06 | Saint-N | infact it can make toast if configured correctly |
| 14:23.25 | Maldivia | what about coffee? |
| 14:23.37 | Saint-N | you need trinity bars for that |
| 14:24.11 | Maldivia | ok... guess I'll have to settle for my hot chocolate then |
| 14:24.24 | Saint-N | thats what she said |
| 14:35.00 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: can you make it put certain types of items in certain bags? |
| 14:35.10 | ralfWORK | i.e. soulbound armor in bag A |
| 14:35.16 | ralfWORK | consumables in bag B |
| 14:35.38 | Moov | hello, anybody knows how to enable keyborad for a frame (only to catch ESC for closing) without having general keybinding disabled |
| 14:36.00 | hillie | i know i've heard of addons that do that. dunno if SB does |
| 14:36.09 | ralfWORK | ya, k |
| 14:38.31 | sag_ich_nicht | tell me something to /acquire/ |
| 14:39.12 | Seerah | Moov: http://www.wowwiki.com/Make_Frames_Closable_With_the_%22Esc%22_Key |
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| 14:40.49 | Moov | thx Seerah |
| 14:41.09 | Atriace | Cairenn|afk: ping |
| 14:41.25 | Seerah | you're welcome, Moov. If you don't have WoWWiki bookmarked yet, you should ;) |
| 14:41.30 | Seerah | What do you need, Atriace? |
| 14:42.09 | Atriace | Wanted to know who to contact if I needed a mod removed from wowinterface.com. |
| 14:42.48 | Seerah | any of the admins/mods |
| 14:43.14 | Atriace | Ah, so that would include you too, right? |
| 14:43.15 | Moov | i'm working with it all day long, but some things are not easy for me to find certainly due to misspelled searching, i'am franch :-| |
| 14:43.16 | Seerah | just send us a PM with the name of the addon |
| 14:44.21 | Moov | but soon RPEM (Role Play Event Manager) will be released ;-) |
| 14:44.43 | Atriace | I wonder if the curse.com and wowui.worldofwar.net admins are on here too. |
| 14:45.09 | Seerah | good luck with that, Moov :) |
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| 14:46.02 | Seerah | I don't see any wowui people |
| 14:46.48 | Seerah | I always forget everyone from Curse |
| 14:46.59 | Seerah | well, not everyone :P |
| 14:47.14 | Atriace | well.... let's see if we can unearth some. :) |
| 14:47.35 | Moov | nice it works ;-) |
| 14:48.02 | Atriace | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.32 | sacarasc | lots of spaces |
| 14:49.48 | Seerah | Kaelten's in the middle of a move, so he's not |
| 14:49.58 | p3lim | whats up with wowi right now? cant load the site whatsoever |
| 14:50.05 | Seerah | not sure if that's really ck, as there's a _ after his name |
| 14:50.21 | Seerah | it's working for me, p3lim |
| 14:50.26 | p3lim | strange |
| 14:50.31 | p3lim | all i get is the background |
| 14:50.37 | p3lim | been so since last night |
| 14:50.42 | Atriace | p3lim: works for me too |
| 14:50.59 | Seerah | Dolby was having a couple issues last night, too, then noticed that AT&T was having some outages |
| 14:51.15 | Seerah | so, if you use AT&T or if you're getting routed through them, then that may be why |
| 14:51.16 | wereHamster | Seerah, is kaelten a curse admin? |
| 14:51.29 | p3lim | cache dump incoming then |
| 14:51.53 | Seerah | I'm not sure if he has the "title" of admin, wereHamster, but he does work there, yes |
| 14:54.05 | ckknight_ | wereHamster: him and I are both staff |
| 14:54.36 | wereHamster | at curse?? what do you two do? write addons? :) |
| 14:54.45 | Seerah | they make magic |
| 14:54.52 | Seerah | *sparklies* |
| 14:54.55 | ckknight | wereHamster: we're both working on curseforge |
| 14:55.13 | ckknight | I've also worked on CurseProfiler 2.0 |
| 14:55.18 | ckknight | some bugfixing on curse.com |
| 14:55.26 | ckknight | and I'll be working on the curse.com rewrite |
| 14:57.08 | wereHamster | what's curseforge for? is it like wowace, hosting projects? And another rewrite? ... that'd be version 4, right? |
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| 14:58.49 | ckknight | wereHamster: there's a distinction between curseforge and curse. curseforge is for developers, provides hosting, project management, all that. curse is for users to download addons |
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| 14:59.11 | wereHamster | ckknight, will the both be synced? |
| 14:59.41 | Polarina | This application has encountered a critical error: |
| 14:59.41 | Polarina | ERROR #0 (0x85100000) Assertion Failure |
| 14:59.43 | Polarina | :( |
| 15:00.00 | ckknight | wereHamster: when you tag a project in your curseforge repository (whether it be svn, git, or hg), it will zip it up, mark it as beta or release (depending), and that zip will propogate to curse.com |
| 15:00.11 | ckknight | the alpha releases (in your trunk) will not go to curse |
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| 15:00.29 | ckknight | if you choose not to use curseforge's repository, you may manually upload zips and mark alpha/beta/release |
| 15:00.37 | ckknight | at which point, the same rules apply |
| 15:00.40 | wereHamster | will it support git repos hosted privately? |
| 15:01.22 | ckknight | wereHamster: if you want to do git archive --format=zip --prefix=WereAddon/ HEAD > wereaddon-1.2.zip, upload that, you're good |
| 15:01.41 | ckknight | wereHamster: what I've been doing is hosting Cartographer3 on gitorious and pushing to both gitorious and curseforge at the same time |
| 15:02.18 | ckknight | the git repo support basically just provides a place for you to push to, essentially |
| 15:03.11 | p3lim | works now, dunno what happened |
| 15:03.26 | p3lim | dumped cache, didnt work, restarded ff, didnt work, restarded again, worked :s |
| 15:03.42 | p3lim | restarted* |
| 15:04.22 | Seerah | cool, p3lim |
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| 15:44.15 | Adys | haha oh my |
| 15:44.16 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_here |
| 15:44.33 | Adys | Theres even the Foreign languages part |
| 15:48.55 | Crysli | Well, Wikipedia has entries for lots of weird stuff. |
| 15:49.05 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English_phrases |
| 15:49.05 | Adys | yeah |
| 15:49.08 | Adys | sweet lord |
| 15:49.09 | Crysli | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_Mom |
| 15:49.40 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ridiculously_useless_articles_on_Wikipedia |
| 15:49.52 | Shirik | lmao |
| 15:49.56 | Polarina | Undocumented 2.4.2 changes: "Sending an \n to chat no longer instantly logs players out. An emote gets sent instead: "<player> says something unintelligible." -- Epic win! |
| 15:50.05 | [Liquidor] | best sig ever :> http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/japark1226/vand.gif |
| 15:50.11 | Adys | thats awesome Polarina |
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| 15:50.26 | Shirik | Personally, I just like watching Wikipedia's candidates for speedy deletion |
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| 16:07.05 | Shirik | wtf |
| 16:07.08 | Shirik | See this is what I mean |
| 16:07.09 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracoccidioidomicosisproctitissarcomucosis |
| 16:07.17 | Shirik | candidates for speedy deletion = fun |
| 16:10.49 | Saint-N | # Reasons derived from Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Wikipedia is not: "a dictionary", "an indiscriminate collection of information", "a crystal ball", etc. |
| 16:11.02 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Size_of_English_Wikipedia_broken_down.png |
| 16:11.45 | Shirik | 'wtf |
| 16:11.56 | Shirik | only Wikipedia would quote Shakespeare on the "You're mom" page |
| 16:12.43 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pok%C3%A9mon_test |
| 16:12.45 | Saint-N | you are mom? |
| 16:12.53 | Crysli | Yes you are |
| 16:12.57 | Shirik | er |
| 16:13.01 | Shirik | wow I can't believe I mistyped that |
| 16:13.10 | Saint-N | i can |
| 16:13.18 | Adys | ~failrik |
| 16:13.18 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 16:13.21 | Saint-N | your ginormous head has too much going on ;P |
| 16:13.32 | Saint-N | why oh why is his head so big |
| 16:15.28 | Crysli | Wow, I'm going to use that the next time a Yo momma joke comes up. "Villain, I have done thy mother." |
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| 16:16.52 | Industrial | How do I match anything except "string" with sed/any other commandline tool? |
| 16:17.40 | Saint-N | http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,2701537080.aspx |
| 16:18.49 | Tentacled | Industrial: sed/commandlines are for matching regular expressions, mostly. What would you like to match with them, apples or whales..? |
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| 16:20.05 | Industrial | Tentacled: whatever I feed it in my pipe :)? |
| 16:20.19 | Industrial | Tentacled: right now output of locate |
| 16:20.33 | Saint-N | what do you wanna disclude? |
| 16:20.35 | Industrial | e.g. locate foo | filter bar | xargs rm |
| 16:20.52 | Industrial | "/etc/sane.d/" |
| 16:20.57 | Tentacled | should work, as a general concept... |
| 16:21.03 | Adys | (.)?[^string] |
| 16:21.23 | Adys | er actually nvm |
| 16:21.26 | Industrial | Adys: thats the character s or t or r or etc |
| 16:21.28 | Adys | that only matches theletters |
| 16:21.35 | Industrial | yeah, thats the problem :) |
| 16:22.26 | Adys | (.)?[^s[^t[^r[^i[^n[^g]]]]]] |
| 16:22.41 | Adys | doesn't sound right but with the fucktons of regex implementation one has to accept it |
| 16:23.05 | Saint-N | Industrial: grep -v ;P |
| 16:23.23 | Saint-N | locate blerg | grep -v orange_koolaid >> stuff.holder |
| 16:23.34 | Industrial | victory! thanks |
| 16:24.52 | Saint-N | locate -i will ignore case as well |
| 16:25.18 | Industrial | See, general channels like this work better then linux distro channels cause youll get jumped at for other things :P |
| 16:25.54 | Saint-N | heh yeah |
| 16:26.03 | Saint-N | only in here we do it not to help but to show off ;) |
| 16:26.40 | Industrial | meh I get my answer so im fine with it :> |
| 16:27.18 | Saint-N | heh |
| 16:27.54 | Saint-N | find . ! -name \*orange_koolaid\* <-- works too |
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| 16:29.45 | Shirik|Ecole | whois Shirik|AFK |
| 16:29.49 | Shirik|Ecole | er |
| 16:39.43 | Mikk | cog|work: seriously, there's books that teach that string truncation is a valid way of rounding? oO |
| 16:39.57 | Mikk | i mean... not only it is wrong, it is also stupid |
| 16:40.33 | cog|work | Mikk: CAST(CONVERT(char(12), StartDate, 8) AS datetime) is the recommended way to isolate the time portion of a datetime field in Murach's SQL Server 2005 for developers |
| 16:40.57 | mikma | <3 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/ <3 |
| 16:40.57 | cog|work | (if you see a smiley with glasses it should be 8 ) without the space) |
| 16:41.03 | Mikk | Well... dates aren't numbers |
| 16:41.09 | mikma | yes, <3 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095159/ <3 :D |
| 16:41.11 | cog|work | yes they are |
| 16:41.31 | cog|work | it's just a count of days since 1/1/1900 (in MSSQL) |
| 16:41.36 | Mikk | Okay, they are, but the SQL standard doesn't really define what the numeric representation is |
| 16:41.40 | cog|work | and the time of day is the fractional portion |
| 16:41.45 | Mikk | They can be whichever in a given SQL server |
| 16:41.53 | Mikk | While string trunction will DTRT |
| 16:43.06 | cog|work | well it's a book on MS SQL Server in particular... |
| 16:43.21 | cog|work | and they haven't held back on other MSSQL-specific features... |
| 16:43.38 | Mikk | fairy nuff |
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| 16:48.37 | Argonmax | anyone know where to get some gold? for world of warcraft? |
| 16:49.03 | cog|work | diaf |
| 16:49.26 | Argonmax | diaf? |
| 16:49.30 | cog|work | die in a fire |
| 16:49.42 | Argonmax | WoW that is nerdy |
| 16:49.44 | cog|work | earn gold yourself or gtfo |
| 16:49.47 | ANTRat | i tend to kill things or turn in quests for gold |
| 16:49.57 | Argonmax | thank you ANT |
| 16:50.00 | ANTRat | or play the auction house |
| 16:50.04 | Tasky | (Argonmax) WoW that is nerdy |
| 16:50.07 | Tasky | oh sweet irony |
| 16:50.34 | Argonmax | WOW |
| 16:50.37 | Argonmax | is that better |
| 16:50.58 | Argonmax | i need some fast |
| 16:51.03 | cog|work | you're the scum of the earth so no... it's not better. I hope your account gets banned for even ASKING where to get gold |
| 16:51.22 | Argonmax | im scum :S |
| 16:51.26 | Tasky | go buy some from a chinese farmer and get scammed... err i mean a shitload of gold |
| 16:52.17 | Argonmax | WOW... God bless you, if you think me buying gold makes me the Scum of the earth you need to leave your house :S |
| 16:52.21 | Bela|work | this channel doesn't discuss nor does it allow the discussion of how to hack, or buy gold for wow |
| 16:52.30 | Argonmax | www.wowgoldxp.com is selling WoW gold at $23 for 1000g on Eu servers and $29 on US servers, power leveling is only $235.99 from 1-70 within 14 days |
| 16:52.31 | Bela|work | please refrain from doing so |
| 16:52.32 | cog|work | Argonmax: the fact that you even asked shows that you possess little intellect, conviction, honor, etc |
| 16:52.32 | Argonmax | www.wowgoldxp.com is selling WoW gold at $23 for 1000g on Eu servers and $29 on US servers, power leveling is only $235.99 from 1-70 within 14 days |
| 16:52.34 | Bela|work | thank you |
| 16:52.35 | Argonmax | www.wowgoldxp.com is selling WoW gold at $23 for 1000g on Eu servers and $29 on US servers, power leveling is only $235.99 from 1-70 within 14 days |
| 16:52.36 | Argonmax | www.wowgoldxp.com is selling WoW gold at $23 for 1000g on Eu servers and $29 on US servers, power leveling is only $235.99 from 1-70 within 14 days |
| 16:52.41 | zenzelezz | oh my |
| 16:52.42 | Tasky | LOL |
| 16:52.49 | [melin] | wtf? in here too? |
| 16:52.49 | Tasky | what a fuckin idiot |
| 16:52.50 | cog|work | yep. scum of the earth |
| 16:53.07 | Crysli | Rofl |
| 16:53.43 | Polarina | Argonmax: Thank you. Added your message to Relegation. |
| 16:54.04 | Crysli | Argonmax. Possibly a great player, but in his heart always a level 1 Human Warrior. |
| 16:54.16 | cog|work | guys, he's not in here any more |
| 16:54.17 | cog|work | :P |
| 16:54.34 | Crysli | I know. I'm just making a sad attempt at being dramatic. |
| 16:56.00 | Saint-N | damn |
| 16:56.06 | Saint-N | i was gonna ask him where i can buy gold |
| 16:56.21 | Bela|work | I didn't get the ban in before he left =( |
| 16:56.22 | Saint-N | he seems to be in the know |
| 16:56.41 | Bela|work | don't think he was registered anyway |
| 16:56.42 | Crysli | Saint-N: Did you look at the four or five messages he posted just now? |
| 16:56.49 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.49 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.16 | Saint-N | yes but like any good person in irc i dont retain things unless it's said 5 times |
| 16:57.52 | Crysli | Make him say it once more then |
| 16:58.20 | Saint-N | thats why i was gonna ask |
| 16:58.33 | Saint-N | you're really good at missing sarcasm too ;) |
| 16:59.00 | Crysli | Been a rough day |
| 16:59.15 | Crysli | Brain doesn't detect sarcasm anymore. |
| 17:00.27 | Crysli | But now that I look back I see it. |
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| 17:05.16 | bleeta1 | hmmm, looks like a major aussie ISP has just had a major outage to the states, can't connect to anything @ blizzard |
| 17:05.25 | bleeta1 | get stuck on some network reach.com |
| 17:09.17 | bleeta1 | wrking again, reach.com to telia.net was out |
| 17:12.28 | kergoth | any rogues or druids around feel like testing an energy ticker for me? |
| 17:13.09 | Shirik|AFK | anyone know the symbol for "is defined as"? Is it ::= or :== ? |
| 17:13.13 | Shirik|AFK | or something else? |
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| 17:13.52 | kergoth | pretty sure it's ::=, shirik |
| 17:13.59 | kergoth | at least thats waht i always see in BNF & such |
| 17:14.01 | Shirik | thanks |
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| 17:47.45 | Polarina | Greetings, Zootfizzle. |
| 17:48.16 | Zootfizzle | Heyo! |
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| 17:48.57 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: I have a patch for the Blizzard UI and I thought you might be able to apply it. |
| 17:49.25 | Zootfizzle | When you put it that way, how could I possibly resist? |
| 17:49.41 | Esamynn | ~poke Zootfizzle |
| 17:49.42 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Zootfizzle, pokes Zootfizzle repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 17:49.55 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Here's the patch: http://rafb.net/p/Mo3BSd42.html |
| 17:49.59 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: And thank you. :) |
| 17:51.08 | rayzur | how do i add a message to the chat frame when WOW first starts? |
| 17:52.26 | Polarina | rayzur: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("<some addon> loaded.") |
| 17:52.36 | Polarina | rayzur: You can skip the brackets. |
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| 17:53.31 | rayzur | and i can jus slap it in the code no fuctions or anything else needs to be declared beforehand? |
| 17:54.02 | Polarina | rayzur: Nope. :) |
| 17:54.16 | rayzur | k ill try it thanks |
| 17:54.39 | Polarina | rayzur: Just slap it in the code and you're done. |
| 17:54.48 | Polarina | rayzur: You're welcome. |
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| 17:55.19 | Zootfizzle | Polarina: Is this just so you can use varargs instead of modifying the arg2-arg11 globals? |
| 17:55.24 | Zootfizzle | Err, reading them? |
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| 17:55.52 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: It is to save a global lookup and on the side note, their usage are deprecated. |
| 17:56.09 | Zootfizzle | I know, I'm in the middle of deprecating them ;) |
| 17:56.12 | End | hehe |
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| 17:56.53 | nevcairiel | Zootfizzle: can we hurt you if 3.0 still has them? :) |
| 17:57.07 | Zootfizzle | You could if it did :) |
| 17:57.14 | Drundia | Hello, Zootfizzle, I'm sorry but my big UI upgrade is still not ready :( but I'm working on it :) |
| 17:58.25 | Zootfizzle | On a side note, if you notice me on IRC after midnight PST, please don't send me queries or messages, I'm probably not around to talk shop :P |
| 17:58.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:58.46 | Zootfizzle | Grr |
| 17:58.58 | Zootfizzle | Between midnight and eight rather. |
| 17:59.00 | nevcairiel | what timezone is PST? :P |
| 17:59.03 | Zootfizzle | Stupid Gremlins |
| 17:59.07 | Zootfizzle | It's always after midnight... |
| 17:59.13 | kergoth | nevcairiel: pacific |
| 17:59.24 | nevcairiel | kergoth: yeah i know that, but what offset? :P |
| 17:59.25 | Drundia | Hmmm, PST.... what is it relative to UTC? |
| 17:59.26 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: the only one that matters, of course. ;) |
| 17:59.35 | Zootfizzle | -8 |
| 17:59.37 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: +8 |
| 17:59.39 | NightHawkTheSane | er, -8.. |
| 18:00.11 | wereHamster | nevcairiel, in irc there is only a single timezone, UGT |
| 18:00.20 | nevcairiel | ugt doesnt have times |
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| 18:00.46 | kergoth | nevcairiel: PST is -8, PDT is -7. |
| 18:00.52 | kergoth | according to this linux machine's zoneinfo db anyway |
| 18:00.56 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 18:01.07 | nevcairiel | so its 11 am around there, i suppose |
| 18:01.12 | kergoth | indeed |
| 18:01.39 | kergoth | it's kinda weird being in AZ, no daylight savings here, so right now we're the same as pacific, but when daylight savings goes away, we'll be the same as mountain |
| 18:01.50 | nevcairiel | no DST ever? |
| 18:01.58 | kergoth | nope |
| 18:02.03 | nevcairiel | crazy |
| 18:02.11 | kergoth | there's plenty of daylight here already, we dont need to save it |
| 18:02.12 | kergoth | :P |
| 18:02.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:02.24 | Zootfizzle | Makes sense as a state with very little arable land, no historical context for saving daylight. |
| 18:03.11 | nevcairiel | A country with multiple timezones must be confusing enough |
| 18:03.29 | Zootfizzle | kergoth: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9503EFD61031E033A25754C0A96E9C94659ED7CF |
| 18:04.18 | rayzur | can you copy text from this irc thing |
| 18:04.43 | Drundia | depends on your client |
| 18:04.44 | nevcairiel | US (main land) has 4 time zones, right? How does that work with tv? I see that some stations say "8pm, 7 central" or so, but thats only 2 <.< |
| 18:04.51 | rayzur | mirc |
| 18:04.55 | ralfWORK | nevcairiel: yep |
| 18:05.07 | ralfWORK | nevcairiel: TV is localized mostly |
| 18:05.19 | zenzelezz | anyone know how many time zones Russia spans? |
| 18:05.29 | rayzur | a lot |
| 18:05.34 | rayzur | :D |
| 18:05.37 | ralfWORK | or rather, it's uhm syndicated |
| 18:05.41 | ralfWORK | (usually) |
| 18:06.17 | nevcairiel | "Russia is a vast country spanning 11 time zones from GMT+2 to GMT+12." |
| 18:06.25 | ralfWORK | eek |
| 18:06.27 | Drundia | it's like from +2 to.... right that's what i wanted to say |
| 18:06.29 | ralfWORK | that's crazy |
| 18:06.31 | zenzelezz | wow, didn't think it was *that* many |
| 18:06.50 | nevcairiel | well like 90% of the russians life in europe-russia anyway |
| 18:06.51 | ralfWORK | then you have freaky places like Indiana |
| 18:07.01 | nevcairiel | the asia part is loads of land without people :P |
| 18:07.06 | Drundia | europe-russia still has like 4 timezones |
| 18:07.13 | ralfWORK | and as kergoth said, Arizona |
| 18:07.27 | durcyn | bah, daylight savings is a crock |
| 18:07.34 | ralfWORK | yes, it is |
| 18:08.43 | rayzur | HUH lots of ppl in chat not to many talk |
| 18:09.07 | Zootfizzle | Welcome to IRC |
| 18:09.22 | Cide- | yep. |
| 18:09.23 | Cide- | zzz. |
| 18:09.36 | Cide | I lurk a lot |
| 18:09.37 | dylanm | If everyone talked all the time this would be pretty hard to follow. |
| 18:09.46 | Cide | and then when someone says something stupid, I join in and bash the person's face |
| 18:09.58 | nevcairiel | at least you try |
| 18:10.26 | Cide | I succeed |
| 18:10.36 | rayzur | true |
| 18:11.06 | nevcairiel | dont join Cide's side, the dark side is strong, but you have to resist rayzur! |
| 18:11.06 | Drundia | something stupid? hmmm.... was whisper-throttling removed in 2.4? i get as much gold spam as pre-2.1 |
| 18:11.17 | Cide | cide's cide |
| 18:11.21 | Cide | * |
| 18:11.34 | rayzur | any1 kno of a good wow emulator that i can test addons while offline? |
| 18:11.41 | Cide | nope |
| 18:11.49 | nevcairiel | i didnt get any gold spam in whisper for a long time |
| 18:11.59 | nevcairiel | only say spam in AH or Banks |
| 18:12.08 | haste | I know one! It's called lua, and comes with luac. Together they battle evil forces. |
| 18:12.18 | rayzur | wow |
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| 18:13.21 | Drundia | i don't know, but i get huge number of whispers |
| 18:13.49 | Drundia | with all those.... www.isellcheapwoweuropegoldandstealyouraccount.cn |
| 18:14.19 | haste | at least they offer huge boobs |
| 18:14.24 | haste | s/s$// |
| 18:15.01 | haste | "1940.07| Ozhlvjrldxcf whispers: Wanna learn how to levelup to 70 in 1day19h? Famous Athene did this! Wanna see his girlfriend?? big boob? <snip> get this! All live video show Athene and his big breast girl! On <snip>. Don?? wait!" |
| 18:15.05 | Drundia | and every time they tell prices went down. if that would be true their gold would be free already |
| 18:15.13 | kergoth | .. |
| 18:15.22 | Drundia | oh yes |
| 18:15.28 | Drundia | big breast girl |
| 18:15.36 | Drundia | it happened a few times |
| 18:16.05 | Cide | hey, athene's supposed girlfriend does have pretty nice breasts |
| 18:16.20 | Cide | but ya.. that video is available to anyone |
| 18:16.38 | Polarina | Cide: WHERE? |
| 18:16.48 | Cide | www.google.com/search?q=athene+girlfriend |
| 18:17.05 | Polarina | Cide: The one that shows the leveling progress. |
| 18:17.07 | Cide | I just made that searchterm up but how hard can it be to find? |
| 18:17.32 | Cide | it didn't state he levels? |
| 18:17.51 | Cide | only that he did do it in x amount of time |
| 18:18.17 | ckknight | Drundia: if you have a non-zero number and multiply it ad infinitum by a number within the range (0, 1), no matter how many times you multiply, it will never reach zero |
| 18:19.02 | Cide | what if you multiply it with the inverse of infinity? |
| 18:20.32 | cog|work | Anyone have a bare bones php file upload page I could use? I need an easier way to upload files to my personal server on a whim... |
| 18:20.39 | Cide | um |
| 18:20.47 | Cide | pretty sure the php manual pretty much has one :P |
| 18:21.07 | Cide | http://se2.php.net/manual/en/features.file-upload.php |
| 18:21.30 | cog|work | and that was automatic with the linux distro :P |
| 18:21.30 | Cide | sec then |
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| 18:21.45 | Drundia | ckknight, there is infinite number of m=0 and n=0 such that m!=n |
| 18:22.17 | ckknight | where did factorial come in? |
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| 18:22.47 | dylanm | I think that's a not equal. |
| 18:22.51 | ckknight | we're talking p * x^t, where p is the price, x is within (0, 1) and t is the number of iteratios of price drops |
| 18:22.59 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:23.02 | ckknight | use ≠|
| 18:23.03 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:23.06 | cog|work | != ≠≠|
| 18:23.10 | ckknight | or spacing |
| 18:23.16 | Cide | 0! = 0 is false! |
| 18:23.19 | Jarli | would anyone have a minute to look over a rather small addon? |
| 18:23.30 | dylanm | Of course, money isn't really infinitely divisible is it? |
| 18:23.32 | rayzur | any1 kno of documentation of lua code that is more detailed on specifics of the code and wat it exactly does? |
| 18:23.46 | dylanm | I mean I know gas stations kind of dick around with it. |
| 18:23.50 | dylanm | :p |
| 18:23.57 | Drundia | according to wow ah deposits for 1c vendor things are 0 |
| 18:24.22 | Drundia | so we multiply a non-zero p by non-zero x and get 0! |
| 18:24.25 | Cide | cog|work: http://pastey.net/86459 |
| 18:24.26 | ckknight | dylanm: true, but seeing as x is likely within (0.9, 1), it'll be a while |
| 18:24.27 | Cide | should work |
| 18:24.43 | Thezanke | ckknight, how goes cart3? |
| 18:24.44 | Drundia | why? |
| 18:24.49 | cog|work | Cide: ty |
| 18:24.54 | Drundia | why in (0.9, 1)? |
| 18:24.54 | ckknight | Thezanke: working on curseforge now |
| 18:24.55 | Jarli | would any Devs or Modders be able to check out the code I sticked on the pastey.net... its auto rez with auto follow, hopefully... |
| 18:25.06 | Nechckn | Jarli go to http://WoWUIDev.Pastey.Net and enter your code, then post the URL it assigns here |
| 18:25.10 | Thezanke | ckknight, ? |
| 18:25.12 | Drundia | auto-rez and auto-follow is like impossible |
| 18:25.14 | Jarli | thanks |
| 18:25.20 | Jarli | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86458-1jcr |
| 18:25.22 | Cide | cog|work: make sure you change the target directory :P |
| 18:25.35 | ckknight | Drundia: well, not necessarily |
| 18:25.44 | Cide | Jarli: that will fail |
| 18:25.48 | ckknight | Drundia: in any event, it's likely going to remain the same price for more product |
| 18:25.58 | Cide | Jarli: I don't think you can automate following a unit |
| 18:26.09 | ckknight | Thezanke: curseforge.com, it's a developer platform Kaelten and I are working on |
| 18:26.11 | Drundia | SendChatMessage("/follow Jarli" [,"say" [,"" ]]); - clearly not gong to work |
| 18:26.14 | Cide | Jarli: and your syntax for SendChatMessage() is incorrect, and even if the syntax was correct it wouldn't function |
| 18:26.15 | cog|work | I may not be able to produce php, but it's not like I won't be able to tell what's going on :P |
| 18:26.48 | Bela|work | you would need to call the chat frame edit box |
| 18:26.55 | Jarli | thats the syntax for chatmsg on wowwiki.... ugh update lol\ |
| 18:27.34 | Cide | cog|work: the comments # index.html and # upload.php indicate the file names you should save the text below those lines as |
| 18:27.34 | Drundia | you can try to call FollowUnit() |
| 18:27.34 | Drundia | but i think it was protected |
| 18:27.34 | Bela|work | yup |
| 18:27.34 | Cide | Jarli: sure, but when you type /follow it doesn't send a chat message |
| 18:27.34 | Thezanke | ckknight, I cant read the "About Curseforge" ;_; its german or something |
| 18:27.35 | Jarli | um where, think of me as blind, and where am I supposed to put it lol |
| 18:27.35 | ckknight | german? |
| 18:27.37 | Drundia | editbox:SetText() also taints text inside it |
| 18:27.45 | Atriace | Wow.... just found this in the list of globals "Roses are gray, violets are gray. I'm dead and color blind." |
| 18:27.55 | Cide | as in |
| 18:27.57 | Drundia | so further attempt to parse slash command there won't be able to execute protected functionality |
| 18:27.59 | Bela|work | haha |
| 18:28.06 | ckknight | oh, Thezanke, that's Latin |
| 18:28.18 | Drundia | Atriace, it's one of undead voice emotes |
| 18:28.19 | cog|work | thanks Cide... never would've figured that out either :P |
| 18:28.21 | ckknight | Atriace: it's one of the female undead's /silly's |
| 18:28.27 | Cide | for key, value in pairs(_G) do print(key); end -- "Roses are gray, violets are gray. I'm dead and color blind." ?? |
| 18:28.33 | Esamynn | male actually |
| 18:28.35 | Cide | cog|work: no worries |
| 18:28.43 | Cide | cog|work: oh shit |
| 18:28.45 | Atriace | That'd be why, I see. I only play alliance. |
| 18:28.48 | Jarli | Drundia, I appreciate the help, but I don't know the difference between protected and unprotected or other. This is my first attempt at Lua coding.. |
| 18:28.53 | Cide | cog|work: in the move_uploaded_file call, change userfile to file |
| 18:28.57 | ckknight | Thezanke: it means it's not done yet |
| 18:29.03 | Cide | I changed the filename from the example since the example form was so stupid |
| 18:29.07 | Bela|work | protected basically means don't do it |
| 18:29.20 | cog|work | kk |
| 18:29.22 | Bela|work | or rather, you can't |
| 18:29.44 | Bela|work | secure means it will get tained if you try |
| 18:29.57 | Jarli | is there a way to, select the person who last cast a spell on you, and then use the follow command on them? |
| 18:30.04 | Cide | cog|work: and you might want to change the value of MAX_FILE_SIZE, but I believe there's an upper bound set in php.ini that you'll have to override if you want it very high |
| 18:30.07 | Jarli | tained? |
| 18:30.12 | Bela|work | you can't target via code |
| 18:30.22 | Bela|work | nor can you /follow |
| 18:30.23 | Thezanke | ckknight, whats it say lol? |
| 18:30.25 | Cide | Jarli: I think you should just abandon the idea and play the game again |
| 18:30.27 | Jarli | can you call apon a macro to do the follow? |
| 18:30.35 | Bela|work | can't call macros via code |
| 18:30.42 | Jarli | ugh |
| 18:30.49 | Bela|work | they rewuire a hardware event |
| 18:30.52 | Drundia | well you can do it out of combat by hardware event |
| 18:31.00 | ckknight | Thezanke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum |
| 18:31.09 | Drundia | macro like /script UpdateSomeAttributes() /click SomeButton |
| 18:31.11 | Esamynn | but re-writing the macro with code will taint it and make it unusable |
| 18:31.12 | Bela|work | you can do it IN combat via hardware event |
| 18:31.16 | Jarli | hardware event, "key press" correct? |
| 18:31.20 | Esamynn | yes |
| 18:31.37 | Drundia | but you can't update protected frame attributes in combat |
| 18:31.43 | Jarli | I thought I saw on wiki, a un-ghost event |
| 18:31.47 | Esamynn | ie. from a binding or an OnClick script |
| 18:31.48 | Jarli | does that still exist? |
| 18:31.50 | Drundia | so in combat smart functionality is a bit more limited |
| 18:32.05 | Jarli | well rez would be after combat |
| 18:32.06 | Bela|work | why are we even discussing this? Is it not obvious that Blizz doesn't want people using code to auto-follow people without interaction? |
| 18:32.13 | Esamynn | not always Jarli |
| 18:32.23 | Esamynn | well, in your case I guess it would be |
| 18:32.26 | Jarli | true, druids.. |
| 18:32.29 | Bela|work | nor do they want people auto-targetting |
| 18:33.51 | Jarli | You can auto target any other character through the use of other addons ( Raid Addons ) i've used, based on the % of HP they have left and in range... so why not this? |
| 18:34.44 | Bela|work | since when? |
| 18:35.51 | Jarli | just last patch, there was a raid Addon for healers which would watch a players Hp % and if they were below the user specified amount it would target them for healing.. |
| 18:36.02 | Bela|work | without you clicking? |
| 18:36.09 | Jarli | it would just target them |
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| 18:36.17 | Bela|work | find it |
| 18:36.24 | Bela|work | no offense, but I highly doubt it |
| 18:37.06 | rayzur | so any1 have those docs i was askin bout b4 i got d/c |
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| 18:38.59 | Jarli | K, besides that, and blizzard saying don't do it, does it functionally make sense? |
| 18:39.24 | dylanm | Last patch?? |
| 18:39.33 | dylanm | If by that you mean 1.0 :p |
| 18:39.35 | Bela|work | I assume 2.3 |
| 18:39.50 | Drundia | you shouldn't be able to do it and there are well-intentioned people ((c) Iriel) that are trying to find possibilities of doing it and reporting it to blizzard |
| 18:39.56 | Jarli | yes in 2.3, I used it during all raid encounters.. |
| 18:40.08 | Bela|work | so let me get this straight? |
| 18:40.18 | Bela|work | you didn't have to click their frame with a mouse at all? |
| 18:40.20 | Drundia | doesn't it like highlight low health people and you click their portraits? |
| 18:40.22 | pastamancer | I only half-read the scrollback but I read that as "besides not being allowed by the game engine, that makese sense?" |
| 18:40.29 | Bela|work | it actually CHANGED who you had targetted |
| 18:40.34 | Bela|work | and you simply pressed a spell |
| 18:40.45 | Jarli | You didn't have to click the target frame, it would auto target the lowest HP person and then you can just cast away |
| 18:40.53 | ralfWORK | Jarli: that kinda thing was eliminated like right before BC came out I thought :P |
| 18:40.59 | Bela|work | 2.0 |
| 18:41.14 | Bela|work | how recent are you talking Jarli? |
| 18:41.23 | Jarli | 2.3.3 |
| 18:41.48 | Bela|work | outside of the exploitation of a serious bug, that shouldn't have been possible |
| 18:41.48 | ralfWORK | was'nt that the old group buttons "emergency frame"? |
| 18:41.55 | zenzelezz | wasn't there a way to get around the function protection that was fixed some time ago? After 2.0 |
| 18:42.27 | Bela|work | now if you had said you could cast on a target without actually targetting them... |
| 18:42.29 | Bela|work | thats different |
| 18:42.40 | Bela|work | and entirely possible, as long as you actually click (hardware event) |
| 18:42.41 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: a focus? |
| 18:42.54 | Bela|work | no |
| 18:43.03 | Polarina | Shall we discuss the "CPU vs. Memory" thing, where you pick one and sacrifice the other during the development of World of Warcraft addons? |
| 18:43.07 | Esamynn | doesn't even have to be focus |
| 18:43.07 | Bela|work | you can perform actions on units |
| 18:43.16 | Esamynn | any unit will do |
| 18:43.21 | Bela|work | as long as the attributes for that unit were set outside of combat |
| 18:43.23 | ralfWORK | hmm interesting |
| 18:43.32 | Bela|work | for example: healbot |
| 18:43.45 | ralfWORK | never used healbot. the very name turned me off :P |
| 18:43.54 | Bela|work | meh |
| 18:43.57 | Bela|work | its a misnomer |
| 18:44.02 | Bela|work | it doens't do anyhting FOR you |
| 18:44.05 | rayzur | cpu vs. memory :D |
| 18:44.07 | Esamynn | a healing druid could have the macro /cast [target=targettarget] Moonfire and it would hit the target of whoever they were targeting |
| 18:44.14 | Drundia | tbh if someone was smart enough to find and use some security hole, i believe they could also be smart enough to not tell anyone about it |
| 18:44.15 | Bela|work | it just presents the data in a way that makes it easier to make quick decisions |
| 18:44.29 | cog|work | Polarina: why would you sacrifice CPU for memory? memory's free once it's consumed... If you're talking garbage creation, that's another story... But as far as raw memory usage, it has no effect on performance (even on low memory systems since the rest of WoW already takes up so much RAM) |
| 18:44.42 | Bela|work | Drundia: the problem is it was in an addon |
| 18:44.45 | End | cog|work: to an extent ;-p |
| 18:44.46 | zenzelezz | <Bela|work> its a misnomer <Bela|work> it doens't do anyhting FOR you <-- some people judge just by name. I played WoW for 3 months before visiting Thottbot because I thought it was an actual in-game bot thing |
| 18:44.47 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: I believe you. When I healed I used grid/clique and was quite happy |
| 18:44.49 | Bela|work | in essence that IS telling someone about it |
| 18:45.04 | End | you could run out of memory entirely :P |
| 18:45.04 | Polarina | s/"CPU vs. Memory"/"CPU vs. Garbage Creation"/ |
| 18:45.08 | cog|work | well, yes, but that extent ends up BECOMING cpu time |
| 18:45.10 | End | but that's an extreme case |
| 18:45.28 | End | well, you start swapping I guess |
| 18:45.34 | End | but that's not really cpu time even |
| 18:45.39 | End | that's just time :P |
| 18:45.43 | cog|work | true |
| 18:46.02 | End | hopefully you don't reach that point though |
| 18:46.13 | Jarli | well if anyone could, test it for me, it is "dead player" addon, which does accept a res, and then it should put the Rezzer on follow. |
| 18:46.18 | End | if you do...your addons are probably broken :P |
| 18:46.31 | Bela|work | why does one have to sacrifice at all? |
| 18:46.43 | Bela|work | I mean outside of limitations, one should be balancing both |
| 18:46.52 | Bela|work | faster code, less memory |
| 18:47.01 | cog|work | well, development time is a factor too |
| 18:47.08 | Bela|work | ther eis never an excuse to make your code use more memory just so you can make it run faster |
| 18:47.11 | rayzur | is there a function for the percentage of life of your character |
| 18:47.13 | Bela|work | well |
| 18:47.19 | Bela|work | more meaning, LOTS more mind you |
| 18:47.31 | ralfWORK | that's a pretty broad statement! |
| 18:47.32 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:47.33 | cog|work | If something is really simple to implement and doesn't have a huge effect on performance, you really shouldn't waste time optimizing... |
| 18:48.04 | cog|work | and i disagree with the memory thing... |
| 18:48.20 | cog|work | i would gladly sacrifice memory usage for framerate |
| 18:48.31 | rayzur | any1 kno of a function that is related to player health? |
| 18:48.49 | Bela|work | rayzur: you UnitHealth(unit) and UnitHealthMax(unit) |
| 18:48.53 | zenzelezz | you should go look around the wiki rayzur, it answers most such questions |
| 18:48.54 | End | memory is probably a more free resource than processing time |
| 18:48.56 | Bela|work | you do the math yourself to get a percent |
| 18:49.03 | cog|work | exactly |
| 18:49.20 | Bela|work | oh I agree |
| 18:49.27 | Drundia | Blizzard should somehow make all UI run in separate thread and be dealt with be other CPU :) |
| 18:49.30 | Jarli | Bela from looking at my code, with the part of the SendChatMessage, assuming it is correct from >>> http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SendChatMessage <<<< it should res the person and then the person should say in Party chat /follow Jarli |
| 18:49.31 | rayzur | yea but i coodnt find it i looked through most of the relevant catagories but tks for that bela |
| 18:49.42 | Bela|work | I just think that you should follow every avenue you can to make both more efficient |
| 18:49.52 | End | I'd say if you really want to compare, you just ask yourself if the trade off is reasonable |
| 18:50.04 | End | Personally, I'm lazy, and whatever works works ;-p |
| 18:50.08 | cog|work | even when it doesn't make a substantial difference and can possibly introduce more bugs/maintenance hassle? |
| 18:50.08 | zenzelezz | rayzur: bookmark http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 18:50.18 | rayzur | alrdy done |
| 18:50.19 | Bela|work | Jarli: correct, it would "say" it |
| 18:50.24 | Bela|work | but it wouldn't actually do it |
| 18:50.30 | Jarli | damn it |
| 18:50.31 | Crysli|tv | zenzelezz: Real men memorize it =D |
| 18:50.45 | Jarli | so what are the "/" registered as? |
| 18:50.51 | zenzelezz | Crysli|tv: I have it memorized, but having it bookmarked saves me from having to type it |
| 18:50.55 | Bela|work | slash commands aren't processed through SendChatMessage |
| 18:51.22 | Bela|work | for good reason |
| 18:51.24 | zenzelezz | it's in the name, it's a Chat message, not a command |
| 18:51.29 | rayzur | i didnt look through the unit catagory |
| 18:51.32 | Jarli | and Addons can't use a macro, correct? |
| 18:51.38 | Bela|work | right |
| 18:51.49 | Jarli | bugger... |
| 18:51.52 | Bela|work | not without tainting the macro system, which would make macros not work |
| 18:51.55 | Jarli | and I thought I was so close |
| 18:52.02 | Duman | Sending an \n to chat no longer instantly logs players out. |
| 18:52.02 | Jarli | tainting? |
| 18:52.04 | Duman | zomg finally |
| 18:52.46 | Bela|work | is there an article on taint that someone can link? |
| 18:52.51 | Bela|work | easier than explaining it |
| 18:53.11 | Jarli | if by tainting = break, then that is all I need |
| 18:53.24 | Jarli | but im happy to break the game to help teach blizzard lol |
| 18:53.44 | Bela|work | 2.0 introduced secure code, that when used in certain situations would taint (or essentially break) the execution path |
| 18:54.18 | Bela|work | its a protection against using code during certain situations, like in combat |
| 18:54.20 | Seerah|away | teach Blizzard what exactly? |
| 18:54.23 | zenzelezz | Jarli: "breaking" only means that you, the local player, is screwed |
| 18:54.23 | Drundia | Duman, they slowly remove instant disconnects |
| 18:54.28 | Bela|work | rather than completely protecting the function against ALL use |
| 18:54.32 | Jarli | weaknesses in coding |
| 18:54.38 | Seerah|away | Blizzard's stance is "UI, not AI" |
| 18:54.41 | Drundia | for example you can query now most unknown items and will only be disconnected if you spam those queries |
| 18:54.44 | zenzelezz | Jarli: the issue is intentional, not a problem |
| 18:54.56 | zenzelezz | to teach the addon coder to learn about his weak code |
| 18:55.12 | Cide | Seerah|away: divide by I, and we get "U, not A" |
| 18:55.17 | Bela|work | they welcome you to try, but I assure you, they are far from "weak" in their coding |
| 18:55.22 | Jarli | zenzelezz get bent |
| 18:55.33 | zenzelezz | oh noes! |
| 18:55.45 | Cide | GO VOLTAGE, SCREW YOU AMPERE |
| 18:55.54 | Jarli | I didn't mean they are weak in their coding, only meant to show them a different way.. if it worked |
| 18:55.57 | Seerah|away | I wouldn't say "weak" code.... I would say "proper use of the API" |
| 18:56.06 | Bela|work | a different way for what? |
| 18:56.13 | Bela|work | to make it work despite their protections? |
| 18:56.16 | Jarli | A different way to look at it |
| 18:56.19 | Seerah|away | they don't want it to work |
| 18:56.22 | Seerah|away | period |
| 18:56.28 | zenzelezz | Blizzard wants players, not bots |
| 18:56.45 | Jarli | <- enjoys free wow |
| 18:57.10 | Seerah|away | then you won't find help from respectable authors/fan sites |
| 18:57.17 | Seerah|away | I'm sorry |
| 18:57.31 | Bela|work | many of the things that you are banging your head against (like the SendChatMessage problem) were intentionally done that way to prevent the exact thing you are seeking to exploit |
| 18:57.32 | Jarli | hey you, you're afk, disappear lol |
| 18:57.46 | Jarli | im not trying to exploit |
| 18:57.54 | Jarli | Im just attempting to see where the rules bend to |
| 18:57.55 | Bela|work | I meant exploit in an innocent way |
| 18:57.57 | Seerah|away | Jarli: I'm in and out, and I'm a mod - I dont' have to disappear |
| 18:58.30 | Bela|work | like anyone would try to exploit code to test that it protects against it adequately |
| 18:58.33 | Seerah|away | we were trying to help you understand the limits of the API and why it was set up that way |
| 18:58.43 | ralfWORK | isn't the answer to that question always "the rules bend until they break"? |
| 18:58.49 | Bela|work | there ARE respectable authors that do just that |
| 18:58.54 | Bela|work | btw |
| 18:59.03 | Jarli | test the rules until they break |
| 18:59.10 | ralfWORK | you want to do penetration testing? |
| 18:59.12 | Bela|work | as long as you tell them |
| 18:59.15 | Seerah|away | but to Blizzard's benefit |
| 18:59.17 | Bela|work | when you accomplish it |
| 18:59.18 | zenzelezz | ralfWORK: in WoW it's more a case of "they bend until they snap back rigidly in your face" |
| 18:59.23 | Seerah|away | not the player's ability to exploit |
| 18:59.23 | Polarina | Can we please change topic, please? |
| 18:59.28 | ralfWORK | zenzelezz: or that. yes. |
| 18:59.29 | zenzelezz | Polarina: why? |
| 18:59.30 | Jarli | so should an addon that can even accept a "Rez" be bannable, because it doesn't require a hardware event to accept it... |
| 18:59.33 | Bela|work | why Polarina? |
| 18:59.36 | Jarli | And that part, I know for a fact works |
| 18:59.53 | Polarina | I feel uncomfortable with the current topic. |
| 19:00.02 | Bela|work | then don't watch the channel |
| 19:00.02 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 19:00.09 | zenzelezz | sorry, but your comfort isn't the main focus of the channel |
| 19:00.09 | Seerah|away | Polarina: this channel is for Dev discussion |
| 19:00.18 | zenzelezz | clearly the rest are finding the topic interesting |
| 19:00.18 | Bela|work | it is a legitimate discussion, for a change... |
| 19:00.20 | ralfWORK | it's not like Blizz is going to send men in black suits to your house :P |
| 19:00.36 | Jarli | they exist, watch out.... lol |
| 19:00.40 | durcyn | i dunno, those Vivendi stormtroopers aren't nice. |
| 19:00.44 | Jarli | But im serious the auto accept rez works |
| 19:00.46 | Seerah|away | watch out - Zoot is watching! |
| 19:00.49 | Polarina | ralfWORK: No, there are just men in pink suits in front of my house... |
| 19:00.52 | ralfWORK | brb someone is at the door ;) |
| 19:01.01 | Jarli | so why should an event to add on the auto rez to type /follow "rezzer" |
| 19:01.04 | Drundia | Jarli, maybe "rez" isn't that bad |
| 19:01.07 | Bela|work | Jarli: but have you tested it in combat? |
| 19:01.10 | Drundia | you usually want to accept it anyway |
| 19:01.20 | zenzelezz | Seerah|away: I can picture it; 2.4.3 notes: "Fixed a bug where players could accept resurrects without a hardware event" |
| 19:01.26 | Jarli | In combat I don't care about, mainly because im not a druid |
| 19:01.29 | Jarli | i play priest |
| 19:01.31 | Bela|work | I believe that functionality isn't restricted outside of combat |
| 19:01.32 | Drundia | btw when you are dead you are always out of combat |
| 19:01.59 | Cide | what do you call someone when you're looking for a person to color b&w drawn images? a colorer? |
| 19:02.07 | Bela|work | although I wouldn't always want to auto-rez as a shaman.... |
| 19:02.15 | Jarli | no you mis understand |
| 19:02.21 | Drundia | accept rez != use "soulstone" |
| 19:02.31 | Jarli | The addon I am working on, "accepts" a rez on cast on them |
| 19:02.35 | Bela|work | you use a soulstone on rez anyway don't you? |
| 19:02.42 | Bela|work | or is taht only on release? |
| 19:02.46 | Cide | correct |
| 19:02.48 | Drundia | you use soulstone when you die |
| 19:02.53 | Cide | if you die with a soulstone, it'll disappear either way |
| 19:03.00 | [melin] | when you release it vanish so.. better use it =) |
| 19:03.05 | Bela|work | so you always want to use the soulstone |
| 19:03.06 | Jarli | that part is wrong |
| 19:03.07 | Drundia | as a shaman well read "soulstone" as "ankh" |
| 19:03.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
| 19:03.18 | Cide | it's incorrect in the case of ankh |
| 19:03.23 | Bela|work | for shaman though, it doesn't dissapear |
| 19:03.27 | Bela|work | if we don't use it |
| 19:03.27 | Jarli | soul stone isn't consumed until you either are rezzed by someone else, or you actually click the item |
| 19:03.32 | Cide | auto-rez is stupid though |
| 19:03.41 | Cide | I would never have anyone in my raid use an addon for that |
| 19:03.50 | Cide | in fact I'd remove them from the raid |
| 19:03.51 | Bela|work | agreed |
| 19:03.56 | [melin] | heh.. after a battle in TB a friend of mine was ressed on a bridge.. |
| 19:03.56 | Jarli | auto rez is for those ppl who go afk after a boss wipe so you don't have to keep rezzing them |
| 19:04.00 | Bela|work | there are TOO MANY times that you have to time your rez |
| 19:04.07 | Drundia | yes, but when you get ressed you see a "Player wants to ressurect you: Accept|Reject", when you can ankh/ss you see "You die. Release? Release|Use SS" |
| 19:04.08 | Cide | what Bela|work said |
| 19:04.16 | [melin] | tho the resser stood so close to the edge that my friend instantly fell down and died again |
| 19:04.17 | Bela|work | "wait to rez after soandso has finished flame buffetting" |
| 19:04.38 | Cide | or "use it after next earthquake" |
| 19:04.40 | ralfWORK | rez in flame wreath, imo |
| 19:04.47 | Bela|work | yeah |
| 19:04.49 | Bela|work | thats win |
| 19:04.53 | ralfWORK | :D |
| 19:04.58 | [melin] | I hate flame wreath.. |
| 19:05.03 | Drundia | flame wreath is the only fire peope are actually moving out |
| 19:05.04 | ralfWORK | "how can life... result in so much death?" |
| 19:05.10 | pastamancer | IIRC there's already rez auto-accept addons... I don't know the name, but we used to rez this one lock in kara whenever he suicided to get out and help summon and he's auto-accept and yell at us |
| 19:05.10 | Bela|work | do pets still trigger it? |
| 19:05.14 | ralfWORK | flame wreath is easy |
| 19:05.16 | Bela|work | I know they sued to |
| 19:05.17 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: I don't think so |
| 19:05.17 | [melin] | "DO NOT MOVE!!" *wipes* "Who moved?" "I was just gonna get in melee range" |
| 19:05.36 | Bela|work | always had to yell at the shamans who used their elementals during a flame wreath |
| 19:06.03 | ralfWORK | [melin]: I dunno how your raids are run, but as soon as DBM/BigWigs says "FLAME WREATH COMING UP" |
| 19:06.10 | ralfWORK | I announce it on vent |
| 19:06.17 | [melin] | same here |
| 19:06.21 | Bela|work | the new combat log tells you who it was |
| 19:06.21 | ralfWORK | and tell them they had better have their !@#$ ass in melee range |
| 19:06.22 | Drundia | but vent lags so people hear it about time it disappears |
| 19:06.26 | [melin] | plus /rw warnings and so on |
| 19:06.38 | ralfWORK | I used to run with some real r-tards |
| 19:06.40 | Bela|work | PLAYERA's Flame Wreath did 12345 damamge to you |
| 19:06.48 | Bela|work | something along those lines |
| 19:06.49 | Drundia | it worked like that like always |
| 19:06.53 | [melin] | you have.. 2-3 seconds maybe to get in position before flame hits |
| 19:07.04 | ralfWORK | and in the 6mo we did kara, flame wreath only went off like 3 times |
| 19:07.09 | Bela|work | yes but you couldn't filter it Drundia |
| 19:07.22 | Bela|work | 9 times out of 10 it was scrolled way up |
| 19:07.22 | Drundia | well, there were some nice addons that could help you |
| 19:07.30 | [melin] | ralfWORK we've had those errors from people about the same amount of times |
| 19:07.56 | Jarli | if anyone would be willing to test the default version of autorez it's on curse |
| 19:08.00 | ralfWORK | [melin]: *shrug* I may just be an asshole, but if you are a melee class, you have zero reason to not be on top of aran :P |
| 19:08.03 | Jarli | and see what limits it has |
| 19:08.16 | Bela|work | ralfWORK: wait until you are way past Kara, and haven't done it in months, and then you take a team in their wearing t5 or higher, and suddenly everyone acts like morons again on Flame Wreath |
| 19:08.18 | ralfWORK | unless you were killing elementals |
| 19:08.20 | [melin] | Im a hunter.. =) |
| 19:08.20 | Jarli | SS, ahnk, combat rez etc |
| 19:08.25 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: hahahahaahhaha |
| 19:08.39 | ralfWORK | [melin]: I'm a crappy shadowpriest ;) |
| 19:08.43 | ralfWORK | but seriously |
| 19:08.55 | ralfWORK | you're melee people; don't go licking the walls |
| 19:09.01 | [melin] | tip to all that brings hunters to Aran - order them to use snaketrap |
| 19:09.13 | [melin] | Aran will target them for his arcane spellls aswell as players |
| 19:09.15 | Polarina | [melin]: Ok. |
| 19:09.20 | ralfWORK | I outgear it at this point melin |
| 19:09.29 | ralfWORK | so my strat now is: zerg |
| 19:09.33 | pastamancer | I thought that went away when they fixed dorothy targeting snakes |
| 19:09.34 | [melin] | =) |
| 19:09.43 | [melin] | nah he still targets them |
| 19:09.44 | ralfWORK | is a good tip though |
| 19:09.51 | [melin] | its lots of less damage to raid |
| 19:10.01 | ralfWORK | doesn't snake trap work on Illhoof too? |
| 19:10.03 | pastamancer | in fact... http://kyle.13th-floor.org/images/wow/dorothy_snakes.jpg |
| 19:10.12 | [melin] | you mean he sacrifice them? |
| 19:10.13 | Bela|work | the same applies to totems btw on many bosses |
| 19:10.15 | ralfWORK | ye |
| 19:10.17 | [melin] | doubt it - he never targets pets |
| 19:10.19 | pastamancer | that was from my raid group's wizard of oz strategy discussion |
| 19:10.21 | Bela|work | Solarian for example |
| 19:10.29 | Bela|work | have shamans drop all 4 |
| 19:10.37 | Jarli | what about when Aran uses Arcane Exp, and then using Flame Trap instantly, fun fun, happened a few times in raids I've been in..... just type /suicide |
| 19:10.41 | [melin] | we had a player in our raid who died instantly when being sacrificed |
| 19:10.50 | [melin] | then we noticed he had like 6.500 hp |
| 19:11.04 | [melin] | you can imagine how it went on Aran :D |
| 19:11.17 | ralfWORK | Jarli: or when elementals pop while in flame wreath |
| 19:11.23 | ralfWORK | yea, it's awesome |
| 19:11.24 | Jarli | yea |
| 19:11.28 | Jarli | like that is fun shit |
| 19:11.31 | Jarli | right there |
| 19:11.34 | ralfWORK | yea it is |
| 19:11.40 | Jarli | great, no one move, but kill these fucking eles! |
| 19:11.45 | ralfWORK | hahahahahahaah yep! |
| 19:11.50 | Bela|work | we had a priest who was mad at us for always sitting her in SSC |
| 19:11.53 | ralfWORK | DPS is sitting there trying to burn some of them |
| 19:12.10 | ralfWORK | then when the tanks try to pick them up after wreath, it's near impossible |
| 19:12.14 | Bela|work | she didn't understand why we wouldn't let her come on many bosses, due to her health being in the upper 6k range |
| 19:12.29 | ralfWORK | I don't usually feel sorry for tanks, but I do in that situation :P |
| 19:12.38 | ralfWORK | Bela|work: oh that's nice |
| 19:12.49 | Jarli | sadly my priest only has 6.2 hp on retail, Yes I did play retail now i play Private. And yet I've been to SSC and BT |
| 19:12.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik|Ecole (i=9b1f4632@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 19:12.57 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|Ecole] by ChanServ |
| 19:12.58 | ralfWORK | that's the one thing I don't have to worry about now that I'm shadow |
| 19:12.59 | Jarli | just gotta know how to play the class |
| 19:13.06 | ralfWORK | no PMC |
| 19:13.07 | Bela|work | I guess the fact she was dead most boss fights (and early too) didn't phase her |
| 19:13.08 | ralfWORK | ;) |
| 19:13.17 | Polarina | Jarli: You're weird. |
| 19:13.25 | zenzelezz | private servers is not a topic in here |
| 19:13.35 | Jarli | sinloa |
| 19:13.40 | [melin] | there is no way to survive Aran if he gets to drink his mana if youre on 6-7k hp |
| 19:13.42 | Shirik|Ecole | aww, did I miss discussion of private servers? |
| 19:13.47 | ralfWORK | [melin]: yes there is |
| 19:13.54 | Bela|work | even if ti was, you can't compare private to retail in any sense of the word when describing raids |
| 19:13.56 | ralfWORK | it's called power word shield |
| 19:14.06 | [melin] | ralfWORK can you use it when sheeped? |
| 19:14.07 | Seerah|away | [melin]: I do it |
| 19:14.17 | Shirik|Ecole | [melin]: There's time between cast and hit |
| 19:14.19 | Seerah|away | healthstone/pot |
| 19:14.20 | ralfWORK | [melin]: you can use it after sheep breaks |
| 19:14.21 | [melin] | ah true |
| 19:14.22 | Seerah|away | yep |
| 19:14.24 | End | High Warlord whatshisface would be fun too :P |
| 19:14.24 | ralfWORK | right before the fireball hits |
| 19:14.27 | Jarli | hrm, actually you would simply need to play on a Blizzard Like server is all, but thats not the topixc |
| 19:14.32 | ralfWORK | that is called knowing your class ;) |
| 19:14.35 | End | it's what, 8.5k damage when you throw the spine? |
| 19:14.42 | Bela|work | End: yes |
| 19:14.42 | Shirik|Ecole | yup |
| 19:14.47 | Bela|work | its not bad though |
| 19:14.50 | Bela|work | you time it |
| 19:14.55 | End | well, yes |
| 19:14.58 | Jarli | k so back to the addon Im working with |
| 19:14.59 | Shirik|Ecole | if you don't have at least 9.5k hp we don't take you |
| 19:15.02 | Shirik|Ecole | simple enough :P |
| 19:15.05 | Bela|work | top everyone off, then call for the spine toss |
| 19:15.07 | End | with buffs we're fine |
| 19:15.08 | End | although |
| 19:15.12 | Bela|work | he is easy |
| 19:15.15 | End | we battle rezzed a priest |
| 19:15.25 | End | and forgot he didn't have fort or kings |
| 19:15.25 | ralfWORK | ewww |
| 19:15.30 | ralfWORK | End: that sucks |
| 19:15.31 | End | so he got to die again |
| 19:15.36 | Shirik|Ecole | we have warlocks that decide to life tap while the shield's u |
| 19:15.38 | Shirik|Ecole | up |
| 19:15.42 | Shirik|Ecole | I don't heal them to make them learn their lesson |
| 19:15.44 | Jarli | priest don't buff Kings... |
| 19:15.51 | Shirik|Ecole | yes they do |
| 19:15.55 | Bela|work | shamans learn early on to judge whether they should ankh or not |
| 19:15.56 | Jarli | since the fuck when? |
| 19:15.58 | Shirik|Ecole | kings is a million times better than wisdom now |
| 19:15.58 | Jarli | thats paladins |
| 19:16.04 | Shirik|Ecole | HE didn't have kings |
| 19:16.08 | Shirik|Ecole | as in nobody gave it to him |
| 19:16.10 | ralfWORK | bring 4 pallys imo |
| 19:16.12 | Bela|work | because if you can't make that judgement call, you usually end up getting 2 wipes for everyone elses 1 |
| 19:16.26 | Bela|work | its hell on repairs |
| 19:16.26 | Shirik|Ecole | ok I gotta run |
| 19:16.28 | Shirik|Ecole | piece! |
| 19:16.29 | End | We tend to have a lot of pallies |
| 19:16.53 | End | there was the one raid where I had might and light :o |
| 19:17.00 | End | <-- plays a warlock |
| 19:17.02 | zenzelezz | another fun resurrect timing fight is Azgalor, if you manage to get ganked by your own doomguard |
| 19:17.06 | ralfWORK | End: wewt |
| 19:17.25 | ralfWORK | my co-worker complains about getting Wisdom |
| 19:17.29 | ralfWORK | he plays a rogue |
| 19:17.37 | ralfWORK | apparently they have alot of pallies :P |
| 19:17.39 | Bela|work | we alwys have idiots go around the long way when kiting their doomguard |
| 19:17.49 | Bela|work | and of course they die for it |
| 19:18.03 | zenzelezz | kiting doomguard? |
| 19:18.11 | Bela|work | well |
| 19:18.16 | Bela|work | running it to the tanks |
| 19:18.23 | Bela|work | not so much kiting |
| 19:18.24 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 19:18.29 | Jarli | Zenzelezz the doomguard needs to be enslaved before it can be used |
| 19:18.36 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 19:18.44 | Jarli | it's not like other summons |
| 19:18.53 | zenzelezz | we're not talking warlock pets |
| 19:19.03 | Jarli | hrm my bad then |
| 19:19.05 | End | Jarli: we're talking about a boss fight that summons doomguards |
| 19:19.07 | End | (apparently) |
| 19:19.19 | End | I haven't seen Azgalor yet though |
| 19:19.22 | Bela|work | yeah these are doomguards during a boss fight, and they can't be enslaved |
| 19:19.40 | zenzelezz | in the Azgalor fight he randomly gives a player the Doom debuff every so often, and after a short time the player dies and spawns a Doomguard |
| 19:20.06 | Jarli | eh.. there have been several bosses who do the similar |
| 19:20.17 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 19:20.30 | Jarli | NAxx was bad for it..... my god |
| 19:20.45 | zenzelezz | I only brought it up because people with soulstones and other resurrects can manage, if unlucky, to get ganked by the doomguard on their way back to the raid |
| 19:22.16 | Jarli | hrm |
| 19:23.02 | Jarli | could a script be calle don after accepting a rez to do a follow command? |
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| 19:23.53 | Jarli | or a script be encoded with the addon to force a say command or a macro command? |
| 19:24.00 | Polarina | Jarli: No. |
| 19:24.54 | Jarli | Then why can an AutoRez accept work, without any hardware events, work and not a freaking text command... |
| 19:24.56 | MentalPower | say, yes, follow maybe, macro no |
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| 19:25.50 | Jarli | so you could use the sendchatmessage party "/follow jarli" and it would put your player on follow of me |
| 19:25.57 | zenzelezz | no |
| 19:26.06 | zenzelezz | SendChatMessage is for *chat*, it doesn't do commands |
| 19:26.10 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+b argonmex!*@*] by Cairenn|afk |
| 19:26.30 | pastamancer | hasn't this been explained like an hour ago? |
| 19:26.48 | Jarli | And I can only assume then there is nothing that does a command |
| 19:27.12 | MentalPower | command, like? |
| 19:27.19 | Jarli | command follow |
| 19:27.19 | ScytheBlade1 | "It depends on the command" |
| 19:27.22 | End | Slash commands are handled by the edit box and associated code |
| 19:27.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Some yes some no |
| 19:27.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Follow would be protected most likely, so no, that could not be done |
| 19:27.36 | Polarina | Jarli: There is a function that can do the commands, but it will encounter taint if you call it and terminate execution. |
| 19:27.45 | Jarli | is there a way to do a follow without the use of the chat box then? |
| 19:27.53 | Polarina | Jarli: No. |
| 19:27.56 | ScytheBlade1 | A macro. "/follow Person" |
| 19:27.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Click the macro yourself. |
| 19:28.15 | Jarli | I suppose.. |
| 19:28.15 | End | There's an api of course, but yeah, I'm pretty sure it's protected from our use :P |
| 19:28.18 | ScytheBlade1 | There are zero ways to automatically make a character follow |
| 19:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Well I take that back |
| 19:28.44 | MentalPower | FollowUnit() |
| 19:28.47 | ScytheBlade1 | If you don't want to be banned :P |
| 19:28.56 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: wouldn't that be protected? |
| 19:29.01 | Jarli | CommentatorFollowPlayer() ---- protected... |
| 19:29.07 | MentalPower | wowwiki doesn't say it is |
| 19:29.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the commentator API, not the actual follow |
| 19:29.49 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: I really doubt that the FollowUnit() call wouldn't be protected... but I've been surprised before. I can't test right now though :/ |
| 19:29.56 | [melin] | cant find any api command for follow? except PetFollow |
| 19:30.03 | MentalPower | I'm logging in to test |
| 19:30.10 | Jarli | hrm so this FollowUnit("Unit") "unit" would be the player name? could then be used? |
| 19:30.12 | Polarina | Jarli: Stop trying to make it automatically follow someone. It's impossible and you're wasting your time. |
| 19:30.17 | MentalPower | [melin]: your Ctrl+F sucks then :P |
| 19:30.31 | zenzelezz | Jarli: "unit" is unitId, not player name |
| 19:30.32 | [melin] | MentalPower so it seems =) |
| 19:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Jarli: yes no maybe. Unless you are grouped, no. |
| 19:30.56 | Jarli | well grouped would be an always "true" |
| 19:30.57 | [melin] | meh.. I had "match upper/lower case" checked :P |
| 19:31.12 | [melin] | FollowUnit("target") is not protected |
| 19:31.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Jarli: however, that discussion is moot until MentalPower determines if it is protected or not |
| 19:31.19 | [melin] | FollowUnit("Bob") most likely is |
| 19:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Wiki has been wrong before ;) |
| 19:31.39 | ScytheBlade1 | And that would count as movement... (in theory) |
| 19:31.51 | MentalPower | ./run FollowUnit("target") works |
| 19:31.54 | [melin] | they removed FollowUnitByName |
| 19:32.03 | [melin] | thats the protection they made |
| 19:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: try to run it from an event |
| 19:32.15 | [melin] | you have to manually target someone.. that makes it manual enough |
| 19:32.23 | pastamancer | MentalPower: see if it requires a hardware event? |
| 19:32.38 | Jarli | fun topic isn't this? |
| 19:32.45 | Polarina | Jarli: No. |
| 19:32.51 | [melin] | wont be possible to make an event that when someone whispers "follow" and you follows him.. |
| 19:32.54 | Jarli | Polarina, you lie lol |
| 19:32.55 | MentalPower | ./run FollowUnit("somePlayerName") works |
| 19:33.00 | MentalPower | pastamancer: that comes next |
| 19:33.27 | pastamancer | I recall that being the case |
| 19:33.28 | Jarli | Mental is /run FollowUnit("somePlayerName") a command you typed in? |
| 19:33.41 | MentalPower | didn't I just say that? |
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| 19:33.51 | Jarli | sorry, I didnt see it |
| 19:34.00 | [melin] | I gotta try this :D |
| 19:34.17 | [melin] | I'll toss it into a whisper event |
| 19:34.23 | Jarli | but /run is a chat command, not text so then it still is funked |
| 19:34.34 | MentalPower | ~lart Jarli |
| 19:34.34 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Jarli with the sea of tranquility |
| 19:34.55 | MentalPower | Jarli: what *is* /run ? |
| 19:35.08 | Jarli | a command that gets typed |
| 19:35.19 | MentalPower | right, go on |
| 19:35.20 | Jarli | so even if on a rez event, it couldn't be automated |
| 19:35.22 | Polarina | Jarli: We told you already, it's not the case. How many times you tell otherwise won't change that fact. |
| 19:35.36 | Jarli | Polarina, shut the hell up, im learning |
| 19:35.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Jarli: watch it |
| 19:35.56 | [melin] | I'll toss it into a chat event to see if it can be automatied |
| 19:35.59 | [melin] | automated |
| 19:36.08 | zenzelezz | Jarli: taking an attitude isn't the best way to get help around here |
| 19:36.11 | Polarina | Jarli: We have been trying to tell you the same thing for at least 3 hours. |
| 19:36.39 | Jarli | Im not trying to get an attitude, im understanding what Mental said |
| 19:36.52 | zenzelezz | "shut the hell up" is taking an attitude |
| 19:37.00 | ralfWORK | Jarli: there are 2 reasons you can't get advice on how to get this to work |
| 19:37.15 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: /run test = CreateFrame("frame") test:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER") test:SetScript("OnEvent", function() FollowUnit("target") end) |
| 19:37.16 | ralfWORK | 1) what everyone here has said for the last few hours is indeed correct; you cannot do this |
| 19:37.18 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: gogogogo |
| 19:37.23 | Cairenn|afk | temper temper guys |
| 19:37.29 | ralfWORK | 2) they don't want to help you |
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| 19:37.36 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Malgayne] by ChanServ |
| 19:37.37 | ralfWORK | either way, you lose |
| 19:37.45 | ralfWORK | kthxbai |
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| 19:37.57 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: hardware event not required |
| 19:38.01 | Jarli | if it wasn't possible, then Mental and other people wouldn't testing it. |
| 19:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: 0_0 |
| 19:38.05 | MentalPower | tho I used PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 19:38.15 | Polarina | MentalPower: That's a hardware event. |
| 19:38.17 | ScytheBlade1 | That's... hmm |
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| 19:38.21 | Mikk | Yup |
| 19:38.26 | Mikk | Try doing it on a timer |
| 19:38.27 | MentalPower | is it? |
| 19:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Change it to CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL or whatever |
| 19:38.35 | Polarina | MentalPower: Yes. |
| 19:38.39 | pastamancer | MentalPower: you hit tab to change targets :p |
| 19:38.46 | pastamancer | or a mouse click |
| 19:38.47 | zenzelezz | your player can auto-target if you have no target and get hit by something |
| 19:38.50 | MentalPower | ./reload |
| 19:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 19:40.06 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: your exact test worked |
| 19:40.11 | MentalPower | I whispered myself |
| 19:40.14 | MentalPower | ./run test = CreateFrame("frame") test:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER") test:SetScript("OnEvent", function() FollowUnit("target") end) |
| 19:40.26 | Polarina | MentalPower: Did it fail? |
| 19:40.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Have someone else whisper you? Or change it to CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL? |
| 19:41.04 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: had someone else whisper |
| 19:41.05 | [melin] | right |
| 19:41.07 | MentalPower | it worked |
| 19:41.07 | Polarina | MentalPower: Change FollowUnit("target") to FollowUnit(arg1) |
| 19:41.13 | [melin] | FollowUnit("name") works.. |
| 19:41.21 | [melin] | a friend whispered !follow to me - and I followed him |
| 19:41.22 | [melin] | auto |
| 19:41.25 | Jarli | love you |
| 19:41.27 | [melin] | Polarina its arg2 |
| 19:41.34 | Polarina | [melin]: Sorry. |
| 19:41.36 | [melin] | arg1 is the message =) |
| 19:41.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm honestly somewhat shocked. |
| 19:41.50 | MentalPower | I'm not |
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| 19:41.58 | ScytheBlade1 | It's movement related! |
| 19:42.05 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Ping! |
| 19:42.11 | MentalPower | meh |
| 19:42.23 | MentalPower | I think slouken left that one open on purpose |
| 19:42.34 | Snago | There's no way to cancel a follow with an addon though, so use with care ;P |
| 19:42.52 | Polarina | Snago: FollowUnit("player")? |
| 19:43.03 | ralfWORK | what about the sweet release of death? |
| 19:43.17 | zenzelezz | ralfWORK: no suicide command |
| 19:43.24 | Zootfizzle | Polarina: What? |
| 19:43.25 | ralfWORK | ya there is |
| 19:43.27 | Zootfizzle | ;) |
| 19:43.34 | ralfWORK | if you're a priest or a lock! |
| 19:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: FollowUnit() isn't protected. wtf? |
| 19:43.44 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: FollowUnit can be executed from unsecure code without a hardware event. |
| 19:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | (I think that's the question) |
| 19:43.49 | Jarli | melin: FollowUnit("Jarli") would be the entire game command to make a alive target follow? |
| 19:44.15 | Zootfizzle | Hrm |
| 19:44.18 | [melin] | how do you mean? |
| 19:44.19 | Zootfizzle | Okay, I'll talk to the pirate about it |
| 19:44.23 | Jarli | or does it require /w <dead player> !follow |
| 19:44.28 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Thanks. :) |
| 19:44.31 | [melin] | well.. no |
| 19:44.41 | [melin] | I just chose the whisper way to make people make me follow them |
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| 19:44.51 | [melin] | good when raiding and I go a quick AFk etc |
| 19:44.52 | Zootfizzle | What do you guys think the potential for abuse is? |
| 19:45.00 | Snago | I don't see how it could be abused tbh |
| 19:45.02 | MentalPower | Zootfizzle: I think the pirate left that one open on purpose |
| 19:45.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: to be honest, not too much. It's more in the realm of "lolwtf a movement related function isn't protected" |
| 19:45.20 | Jarli | k so look at my new code then and tell me if it's right |
| 19:45.21 | Jarli | please |
| 19:45.22 | [melin] | it cant |
| 19:45.23 | Zootfizzle | The only way I can super actively think of it being abused is by gold spammer addons |
| 19:45.24 | ralfWORK | you msg them with '!follow' and they do that? |
| 19:45.26 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: "Movement is always forbidden", the pirate said. |
| 19:45.33 | [melin] | since FollowUnit() doesnt target anyone |
| 19:45.39 | [melin] | ralfWORK no.. they message me |
| 19:45.39 | Zootfizzle | Infinite declaratives always have exceptions. |
| 19:45.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: the context is someone wants to make a character auto-follow another after a res - take that for what it is |
| 19:45.47 | Zootfizzle | Chew on that one for a bit. |
| 19:45.57 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 19:45.59 | ScytheBlade1 | 'k |
| 19:46.06 | Snago | It could be quite useful imo with an addon that autoaccept a res and /follow the resser so you can take a biobreak while waiting for a res :) |
| 19:46.36 | Jarli | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86464-ll9r |
| 19:46.46 | Jarli | Exactly |
| 19:46.52 | Jarli | that is what im trying to make Snago |
| 19:47.21 | Jarli | the follow is on line 34 |
| 19:47.28 | Saint-N | is it because your BG bot just is too noticable hanging out in the cave spinning in cirlces or jumping once in a while? |
| 19:47.34 | Jarli | assuming im not a tard at this and did it right.. |
| 19:47.44 | Jarli | BG bot? |
| 19:47.46 | Jarli | huh |
| 19:47.51 | Jarli | Iactually do play |
| 19:48.21 | Atriace | Which servers are Chinese? I'm looking through the Oceanic, and none of them seem to be localized. |
| 19:49.02 | pastamancer | Atriace: the ones you can only get to if you're in china |
| 19:49.16 | ralfWORK | are they only on the China internet? |
| 19:49.25 | Atriace | seriously? |
| 19:49.29 | pastamancer | they're run by a chinese company |
| 19:49.31 | MentalPower | Atriace: servers are locale-agnostic |
| 19:49.38 | pastamancer | "The 9" or something like that |
| 19:49.44 | *** join/#wowuidev mikrose (n=chatzill@64.251.77.137) |
| 19:49.57 | MentalPower | Atriace: all servers have data for all clients |
| 19:50.01 | Atriace | So testing my mod for localization specific bugs is impossible by me, is that correct? |
| 19:50.13 | cog|work | unless you buy a chinese version |
| 19:50.16 | pastamancer | yup |
| 19:50.20 | MentalPower | no, you just need a chinese client |
| 19:50.31 | Atriace | QQ |
| 19:50.34 | pastamancer | well, china is usually a patch or fewbehind |
| 19:50.48 | MentalPower | pastamancer: only for a week or two |
| 19:51.01 | MentalPower | they're in 2.4.1 same as we are right now |
| 19:51.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Got a random question - anyone ever seen a problem with Outlook, where it refuses to open e-mail attachments, and silently fails? |
| 19:51.27 | pastamancer | who was it that was on 1.12 for months after 2.0 came out? |
| 19:51.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen (n=Sixen@12.206.135.48) |
| 19:51.55 | Saint-N | did you click the little blue bar that says download pictures and attachments? |
| 19:52.16 | Saint-N | did you enable the "download attachemnts" setting |
| 19:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Not that - say it someone forwards you an e-mail |
| 19:52.27 | ScytheBlade1 | It's attached as a .eml or whatever |
| 19:52.28 | mikrose | Hello... |
| 19:52.29 | Saint-N | does your server auto filter certain extensions? |
| 19:52.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I've saved it to the desktop |
| 19:52.36 | MentalPower | Atriace: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ <--Client DLs for all languages |
| 19:52.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Double-click the file |
| 19:52.40 | ScytheBlade1 | And it does... nothing |
| 19:53.15 | mikrose | Have you guys come across any Eclipse WOW API framework addons |
| 19:54.51 | Atriace | MentalPower: thanks for the link. |
| 19:55.24 | Jarli | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86466 |
| 19:56.04 | Saint-N | its coming in as a .eml attachement on forwardS? |
| 19:56.44 | Saint-N | it shouldnt unless you've got uuencode on or you've chosen plaintext and it's a html/rtf with lots of embedded features |
| 19:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | correction, it's saving as .msg |
| 19:57.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got no clue what is is coming in as |
| 19:57.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm just trying to fix this for a client |
| 19:57.09 | Saint-N | the only time outlook gets .eml for me is bounce messages with a copy of my message |
| 19:57.33 | Atriace | Jarli: It appears to be written correctly, but you may want to un-specify the unit and make it something like "target" instead of "Jarli" |
| 19:57.36 | Saint-N | but thats all server |
| 19:57.50 | Saint-N | what happens if you just "open" and not save? |
| 19:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Same thing |
| 19:58.14 | ScytheBlade1 | The saving was an attempt at a work around |
| 19:58.17 | Saint-N | in options change use Word |
| 19:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ... hahahahahaha |
| 19:58.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It was Google Desktop |
| 19:58.37 | Atriace | Or do soemthing like FollowUnit((UnitName("target"))) |
| 19:58.37 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf? |
| 19:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.tutorials-win.com/OutlookGen/open-email-539114/ |
| 19:58.41 | Saint-N | really?! |
| 19:58.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Seriously, it works now |
| 19:59.16 | Mikk | Zootfizzle: re: gold spammers abusing things -- it's not as if they use addons to begin with. They port around. |
| 19:59.17 | Jarli | but wouldn't Target require that the rezed person selects the target? |
| 19:59.35 | Saint-N | The ironic thing about this is that in order to read my .MSG attachments I |
| 19:59.35 | Saint-N | had been cut/pasting my .MSG atachments and sending them to my GMAIL accout |
| 19:59.35 | Saint-N | to read (and grummling something about MS under my breath as I did). |
| 19:59.58 | Zootfizzle | Mikk: It's way easier to use FollowUnit to follow someone than it is to use porting to follow someone. |
| 20:00.00 | Saint-N | thats kinna wierd |
| 20:00.10 | Saint-N | unless the goggle mbox section was added |
| 20:00.20 | Saint-N | that spawns gmail when you click on mail links |
| 20:00.24 | Zootfizzle | Unless we really screwed up the implementation of FollowUnit. |
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| 20:00.43 | Jarli | hrm |
| 20:00.50 | Mikk | Zootfizzle: True. But I'm guessing the botters can feed "/follow" via fake keypresses too. |
| 20:01.11 | Jarli | so what code should I use in this addon to select the person who cast the rez, and then follow them? |
| 20:01.23 | Zootfizzle | It's a lot easier to have an addon do FollowUnit than it is to write something to fake keypresses! |
| 20:01.35 | Zootfizzle | Gold spammers like to use Lua when they can, for the same reasons we do. |
| 20:02.17 | Jarli | duh, I should use arg1 |
| 20:02.32 | Jarli | since arg1 would be the resserinraidorgroup |
| 20:02.52 | Jarli | correct? |
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| 20:03.10 | Jarli | so FollowUnit("arg1") |
| 20:03.20 | Mikk | FollowUnit(arg1) |
| 20:03.25 | Mikk | erm |
| 20:03.27 | Mikk | no |
| 20:03.39 | Jarli | no, what? |
| 20:03.39 | Atriace | if arg1 is a unitID or name (and a string), then yes. |
| 20:03.42 | Mikk | You'd need to target them and do FollowUnit("target") |
| 20:03.53 | Mikk | Or find their raid unitid |
| 20:03.57 | Polarina | Mikk: You can also pass a name. |
| 20:04.14 | Jarli | But when you get ressed it says Resurect by "player name" isn't that a form of targeting? |
| 20:04.14 | Mikk | You can? Wasn't that removed. |
| 20:04.40 | Polarina | Mikk: Maybe. But at least on the live realms it's possible. |
| 20:04.42 | Jarli | since you stand up at the location they were at when they rezzed you |
| 20:04.58 | Atriace | If the chat window prints it, capture/parse it and yes, you can follow the person that rezzed you, Jarli. |
| 20:05.23 | Jarli | eh, thats beyond me.... |
| 20:05.29 | Jarli | although |
| 20:05.32 | Jarli | I could use... |
| 20:05.34 | Jarli | brb |
| 20:05.36 | Atriace | look into string.find and string.sub |
| 20:05.59 | Jarli | well here |
| 20:06.38 | Jarli | the original code, would be a "Automaticly rezzed by arg1" in the chat frame |
| 20:07.01 | Mikk | Okay, you can safely ignore what I was saying there. Yes, you can FollowUnit("Someplayername") |
| 20:07.29 | Jarli | so If I can pull arg1 off of the chat frame, using the original code, then I can add the followUnit("player") "arg1" which is any player that rezzed you |
| 20:07.40 | Jarli | right? |
| 20:07.56 | Jarli | hrm Im so close, im actually excited lol |
| 20:08.11 | Atriace | if arg1 is a string (e.g., arg1=="Lerroy") then yes. |
| 20:08.20 | Zootfizzle | s/spawning entire/spawning an entire/ |
| 20:08.21 | Jarli | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/86466 |
| 20:08.34 | Jarli | arg1 is defined as any rezzer in the raid or group |
| 20:08.40 | Saint-N | Zootfizzle: you should just disable lua useage if the character is lower than level 3 ;P |
| 20:08.43 | Jarli | but in my code there i defined my player name |
| 20:08.51 | Saint-N | that way they'd have to work a bit to be annoying ;P |
| 20:09.03 | Jarli | so rather then using my player name I could also use arg1 |
| 20:09.14 | Jarli | there is no rez before level 12 so yea.. |
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| 20:09.38 | Crysli | Sorry, was afk for a bit,. |
| 20:09.47 | Zootfizzle | Saint-N: I could also try to send entire death squads of gnomish commandos to their corporate headquarters, but I don't think I could get either one approved =P |
| 20:09.51 | Crysli | Jarli, you still trying to autofollow on rez? |
| 20:10.06 | Jarli | yes, and we've proven it works! |
| 20:10.17 | Crysli | Good! |
| 20:10.23 | Jarli | im just trying to figure out the code, im not a programmer, im a hardware person.. |
| 20:10.30 | Saint-N | Zootfizzle: lets face it thats a far more frightening prospect than blizz lawyers ;P |
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| 20:10.41 | Atriace | Jarli: where are you getting arg1 from? (subnote: don't do FollowUnit("arg1"), it's FollowUnit(arg1)) |
| 20:10.44 | Crysli | I must admit that I don't understand the usefulness of following someone. |
| 20:10.44 | Saint-N | they dont even seem capable of winning against Glider ;) |
| 20:10.56 | lagger | a new escape code "|4" for correctly choosing between singular and plural form. |
| 20:10.58 | lagger | whats that mean |
| 20:10.59 | Crysli | Unless you don't know where to go. |
| 20:11.01 | lagger | singular and plural form? |
| 20:11.02 | Saint-N | Crysli: you log yer client on from work and wanna pwoer level drag him around |
| 20:11.06 | dreadlord | anyone know how yo use linux :? |
| 20:11.11 | Jarli | I editied the code, so it's probably a bit messed sorry Atriace |
| 20:11.13 | Saint-N | you dont own a kvm |
| 20:11.19 | Saint-N | and the other machine is sooooooooooo far away |
| 20:11.25 | Shirik | dreadlord: That's a loaded question |
| 20:11.30 | Zootfizzle | Saint-N: At some point in time the effort required to maintain a level of litigiousness exceeds any potential benefit =P |
| 20:11.34 | Shirik | what's the problem? |
| 20:11.37 | pastamancer | dreadlord: log in as root and go ask #debian :p |
| 20:11.38 | Zootfizzle | Death squads are not faced with this issue. |
| 20:11.44 | Shirik | pastamancer >< |
| 20:11.44 | Saint-N | Zootfizzle: heh yeah |
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| 20:12.09 | pastamancer | Shirik: but they love it when people do that ;) |
| 20:12.19 | Saint-N | i dont understand why there's such a botehr with keeping the gold spammers off ;P |
| 20:12.28 | Saint-N | or why go legal on em |
| 20:12.38 | Saint-N | the mre you ban the more they make == the money moneies blizz gets |
| 20:12.57 | Saint-N | onwarden actually has a nice real life comparission break down on that |
| 20:12.58 | Shirik | because they're gd annoying? |
| 20:13.06 | Saint-N | so are engineers shirik ;) |
| 20:13.12 | ralfWORK | o.O |
| 20:13.18 | Shirik | aye, but without us, you wouldn't be getting anywhere |
| 20:13.23 | Shirik | I've gotten along just fine without gold spammers |
| 20:13.54 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:14.03 | Saint-N | *I* would be mostly fine |
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| 20:14.20 | Saint-N | heh |
| 20:15.03 | Shirik | I prefer not to have a game where your character's profitability is dependent upon the amount of real-life currency you are willing to spend |
| 20:15.30 | Polarina | I couldn't agree more, Shirik. |
| 20:16.12 | Saint-N | why should the game behave any different or evolve in a different way than real life does? |
| 20:16.20 | Saint-N | sounds like simple social economics to me |
| 20:16.33 | Drundia | well, your character profitability depends on your free time which in fact depends on amount of real-life currency you have |
| 20:16.54 | Saint-N | i rpefer not to have a game that requires me to constantly and repetatively play with others to advance and hinder all attempts are equality because of this |
| 20:16.57 | Shirik | Unless it's inversely proportional, I don't believe that is true |
| 20:17.05 | Shirik | I have negative money and somehow I'm in BT |
| 20:17.23 | Saint-N | are==at |
| 20:17.30 | Drundia | it seems you aren't in SP |
| 20:17.43 | Shirik | we've been in SP |
| 20:19.29 | Polarina | "Added bandaid for players whose name starts with Pet*, Raid*, Party* or Player* due to blizz's unitid calls bug for those." |
| 20:19.32 | Polarina | o.O |
| 20:19.49 | Esamynn | where is that from? |
| 20:20.04 | Polarina | Esamynn: #wowace-cia |
| 20:20.13 | Shirik | recount |
| 20:20.16 | Esamynn | and why the hell would any one start their char's name with one of those prefixes... |
| 20:20.24 | Shirik | Pet* doesn't seem so illogical to me |
| 20:20.25 | Polarina | Esamynn: Don't ask me. |
| 20:20.35 | Shirik | Peter? |
| 20:20.38 | Polarina | Shirik: Petty? |
| 20:20.56 | Esamynn | ok, but you then need to use a number after it for the game to use it as a unit id |
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| 20:21.20 | Polarina | Esamynn: No. |
| 20:21.26 | Jarli | everything is a Number in a computer lol 0 or 1 |
| 20:21.30 | Shirik | that's the bug |
| 20:21.30 | [melin] | I use function ChatFrame_OnEvent(event) to hook chat events.. how do I hook bank/bag events? |
| 20:21.36 | Esamynn | oh? |
| 20:21.41 | [melin] | open and update events |
| 20:21.41 | Shirik | Jarli: If you want to go with that logic, there is no 0 or 1 either |
| 20:21.42 | Polarina | Esamynn: "Petmaster", "Focusmeplz", "Targetsdie", etc. |
| 20:21.46 | Shirik | it's either 0 or 5 |
| 20:21.47 | MentalPower | [melin]: bad, bad, bad |
| 20:21.57 | Esamynn | Polarina: all of which are illegal names :P |
| 20:21.57 | Drundia | imo ban hunters that call their pets same as themselves |
| 20:22.07 | [melin] | my pet is named Owachi |
| 20:22.11 | [melin] | its Killer on Taurahe |
| 20:22.20 | Polarina | Esamynn: But can be created and the API fails for them. |
| 20:22.23 | [melin] | MentalPower ? |
| 20:22.27 | Esamynn | interesting |
| 20:22.29 | Esamynn | and strange |
| 20:22.34 | MentalPower | Esamynn: actually, I just created "Focusmeplz" |
| 20:22.48 | Esamynn | yes, it's still not a legal name (under the ToS) |
| 20:22.57 | Esamynn | :P |
| 20:23.01 | MentalPower | where in the ToS? |
| 20:23.21 | Shirik | there's a section on character names |
| 20:23.21 | [melin] | ToS doesnt include petnames does it? |
| 20:23.24 | Drundia | ToS? multi-word names? Anyone ever got renamed for it? |
| 20:23.44 | Jarli | I had a multi word name on retail |
| 20:23.46 | [melin] | I have a druid named Lemongrass - and check 75% of all taurens on any RP realm =) |
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| 20:23.57 | MentalPower | Petty is not a multi-word |
| 20:23.57 | Shirik | Jarli: I strongly advise you do not continue to distinguish "retail" |
| 20:24.01 | Jarli | got forced to change after a year because someone QQ'd over it |
| 20:24.02 | MentalPower | neither is Raider |
| 20:24.16 | Esamynn | In particular, you may not use any name: |
| 20:24.17 | Esamynn | 9. Comprised of partial or complete sentence (e.g., "Inyourface", "Welovebeef", etc); |
| 20:24.24 | Esamynn | section 5. Rules of Conduct |
| 20:24.32 | Saint-N | yeah like they enforce that |
| 20:24.34 | MentalPower | 9. does not apply |
| 20:24.42 | MentalPower | Raider, Petty |
| 20:24.42 | Saint-N | you're also not allowed to use ranks in your name |
| 20:24.53 | Esamynn | MentalPower: I didn't say yours were invalid :P |
| 20:24.54 | Saint-N | lordbuttface |
| 20:25.00 | Drundia | i know! they should change the unitids to start with underscore! |
| 20:25.07 | Esamynn | lol |
| 20:25.13 | Esamynn | or they should make the API do exact checks |
| 20:25.20 | Esamynn | most unit ids require a number in them |
| 20:25.31 | Esamynn | and the 2 that don't are VERY unlikely player names |
| 20:25.54 | Saint-N | or they should make zoot dance naked while bananas are thrown at him and he can create the new code in braille as the pieces of banana fall off from his frantic circular spinningh |
| 20:25.59 | Polarina | Esamynn: "party", "raid", etc. also fail if a name begins with it, doesn't have to be a number there. |
| 20:26.11 | Esamynn | which is a failing of the API, I agree |
| 20:26.20 | Drundia | then API needs to be improved |
| 20:26.31 | ralfWORK | anyone know the rough theorycraft value of spell haste for mages? |
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| 20:26.36 | MentalPower | Polarina: how exactly does it fail? |
| 20:26.37 | Esamynn | what unit do such names target anyways? |
| 20:26.40 | [melin] | sweet.. BAG_UPDATE fires for bank aswell |
| 20:26.47 | Syzgyn | A hunter I used to raid with was named 'petrovski', and it would fuck up the raid frames cuz his name started with 'pet' |
| 20:26.50 | Polarina | MentalPower: I don't know. |
| 20:27.10 | Polarina | Syzgyn: xD |
| 20:27.30 | Drundia | the problem is that they changed half of APIs to work both with unitnames and unitids |
| 20:27.45 | Syzgyn | I remember once instance the day after a patch hit that no one could heal him, it kept going to his pet |
| 20:27.48 | Esamynn | Syzgyn: how did it screw up the raid frames, and was this post 2.0? |
| 20:28.11 | Syzgyn | Esamynn: no, it was way back around 1.8 or 1.9 I think |
| 20:28.13 | Esamynn | oh, just targetting? not the frames themselves? |
| 20:28.14 | Polarina | Syzgyn: Even if the healer was without any addons? |
| 20:28.16 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 20:28.26 | Syzgyn | Polarina: thats what I seem to remember |
| 20:28.31 | Syzgyn | It was a long long time ago though |
| 20:28.32 | Polarina | o.O |
| 20:28.46 | [melin] | ok! how do I make an addon listen to the Guild addon channel? as in - is it a chat event? |
| 20:28.48 | Esamynn | had me worried there was a problem with the raid header template ;) |
| 20:29.03 | Syzgyn | I think there were issues with him getting party invites too |
| 20:29.04 | Esamynn | [melin]: the chat event is CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 20:29.14 | Esamynn | look up the details on wowwiki |
| 20:29.19 | Shirik | the "channel" doesn't entirely exist |
| 20:29.26 | Shirik | you can't really look for the "guild" component of those messages |
| 20:29.31 | [melin] | Esamynn thanks |
| 20:29.38 | Shirik | the parameter for SendAddonMessage only exists to distinguish whom will receive the messages |
| 20:29.51 | Shirik | use the prefix component to find what you're looking for |
| 20:30.03 | [melin] | yup |
| 20:32.03 | Jarli | is there a distinguish between a soulstone rez and any other form of resurrection? |
| 20:33.13 | Jarli | It's been a while, but aren't you asked if you want to use the SoulStone, Accept a Res from Player X, and Combat Res? |
| 20:33.29 | Shirik | the latter two are the same, but yes |
| 20:33.54 | Jarli | that will have to be added to this later then, SoulStone recongition.. |
| 20:34.32 | Jarli | hrm, does wowwiki say the differences? |
| 20:34.50 | Shirik | I'm not really sure of a difference, aside from the message the user sees |
| 20:34.51 | Jarli | or does it fall under an itemuse.. |
| 20:35.04 | Shirik | you aren't really "using" an item because it's a buff |
| 20:35.17 | Polarina | Well, I'm off naming my pet "Target". |
| 20:35.18 | Jarli | hrm |
| 20:35.18 | [melin] | hmm.. what event is best to use to scan bags and bank for table storage.. Bag_Open or Bag_Update or Bag_Close? |
| 20:35.33 | Jarli | I thought it made an item in you bags for some reason.. |
| 20:35.33 | Mikk | Close |
| 20:36.45 | Jarli | so the if soulstore == true then ask "Accept Res?"; else Accept Res |
| 20:37.23 | [melin] | how logic.. BAG_UPDATE - is for bags, bank etc.. BAG_CLOSED - same.. BAG_OPEN - is for Bags inside the bags, that you find items in.. like Lockboxes.. |
| 20:37.40 | Jarli | thanks for the help everyone |
| 20:37.43 | Jarli | i have to go |
| 20:37.51 | [melin] | WoWWiki must be wrong on that one Im sure? |
| 20:38.04 | Atriace | Anyone know what font the chatframe uses? |
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| 20:38.59 | pastamancer | FRIZQT__.ttf |
| 20:39.03 | Shirik | quick question, is this too complicated? http://wowi.pastey.net/86472 |
| 20:39.31 | Mikk | [melin]: No. Bags opening are not an event. |
| 20:39.36 | Mikk | That's completely UI driven. |
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| 20:39.45 | [melin] | ok |
| 20:39.52 | pastamancer | Shirik: well, it won't localize well |
| 20:40.02 | Shirik | Not worried about localization right now, this is a class project :P |
| 20:40.05 | Atriace | pastamancer: characters found in the chat frame don't appear correctly elswhere when defining FRIZQT__.ttf |
| 20:40.10 | Mikk | Remember that there's a distinction between the client and framexml. |
| 20:40.22 | [melin] | Mikk I know =) |
| 20:40.29 | *** part/#wowuidev Malgayne (n=Malgayne@h-66-166-0-210.lsanca54.covad.net) |
| 20:41.08 | Mikk | And I'm not even sure BAG_CLOSED fires for your own bags, |
| 20:41.17 | pastamancer | Atriace: well, more specifically it's STANDARD_TEXT_FONT = "Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF"; |
| 20:41.29 | Atriace | I'm trying to choose a font (or fontinstance definition) that would work for all language alphabets. |
| 20:41.47 | Zootfizzle | Doesn't the chat frame use Arial Narrow? |
| 20:42.02 | Zootfizzle | I remember telling someone it used Friz the other day and I was wrong =P |
| 20:42.04 | [melin] | Mikk got any good suggestion on what event I should use to scan bag contents with? |
| 20:42.05 | Atriace | It might, but what's the file path? |
| 20:42.11 | pastamancer | I thought everyithing was friz? |
| 20:42.13 | Zootfizzle | Fonts\\arialn.ttf |
| 20:42.26 | Zootfizzle | GameFontNormal is Friz |
| 20:42.29 | Mikk | [melin]: Well.. it'd have to be BAG_UPDATE then |
| 20:42.35 | pastamancer | I'll be damned |
| 20:42.38 | Mikk | You should be getting the bag number as arg1 |
| 20:42.44 | Mikk | So you only need to scan the bag you're interested in |
| 20:42.49 | [melin] | Mikk true |
| 20:43.03 | [melin] | its a special content thing Im doing anyway |
| 20:43.07 | pastamancer | oh, right... and morpheus.ttf for mail |
| 20:43.20 | [melin] | its gonna log all I have and the amount of them - exact location isnt important.. just if its a bag or bank(bag) |
| 20:44.11 | [melin] | so I think scanning all bags is best actually.. each time |
| 20:44.18 | [melin] | its not THAT cpu demanding =) |
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| 20:45.02 | thezanke | is there a way to make a macro button that will only work if the spell is ready? |
| 20:45.20 | thezanke | like no global cooldown or pvt cooldown |
| 20:45.29 | zenzelezz | anyone familiar with the "Microsoft Document Explorer" (the help system that comes with VC++2005)? |
| 20:45.36 | Zootfizzle | What are you scanning bags for, [melin]? |
| 20:45.43 | Shirik | thezanke: no |
| 20:46.01 | [melin] | Zootfizzle Im making a function in our guildaddon that allows me to searh for a specific item from my guildmates inventory |
| 20:46.11 | Polarina | [melin]: GetItemCount |
| 20:46.24 | [melin] | I type /find [Mithril Ore] - and those who have it - sends a whisper back |
| 20:46.40 | Polarina | [melin]: You can also search the bank without ever visiting it. |
| 20:46.50 | [melin] | oh.. |
| 20:46.57 | [melin] | Polarina I think I love you |
| 20:47.06 | Polarina | *shy* |
| 20:47.11 | Zootfizzle | o.O |
| 20:47.24 | [melin] | question two.. is it possible to "remove" enchants etc from an itemlink? |
| 20:47.36 | Mikk | Yes |
| 20:47.37 | Zootfizzle | Ooh, I know, I know! |
| 20:48.10 | [melin] | well.. do I need to write a function for it or is there one? =) |
| 20:48.11 | Drundia | Zootfizzle, can we get special prefix characters for most APIs that operate on units so we can force them to treat it as unitname or as unitid to deal with some weird names? |
| 20:48.21 | Zootfizzle | Drundia: No. |
| 20:48.25 | Drundia | why not? :( |
| 20:48.31 | Drundia | pleeeeeease |
| 20:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina: wait what? How? Don't you need to have the bank panel open to call the gbank-specific API calls? |
| 20:48.54 | Mikk | [melin]: see the itemlink info on (you guessed it) wowwiki |
| 20:49.01 | Zootfizzle | That sounds like a terrible way to solve the problem you're talking about. |
| 20:49.16 | [melin] | gah.. cant access GetItemCount - it thinks I wanna edit it :D |
| 20:49.29 | Mikk | Red link? The page hasnt been written |
| 20:49.30 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: for i = 1, 48000 do bank[i] = GetItemCount(i, true) - GetItemCount(i) end |
| 20:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not accessing the bank, that's storing a cache and accessing the cache |
| 20:49.54 | Drundia | So is better way to forbid using some names? Or maybe return to separate functions for names and ids? |
| 20:50.07 | [melin] | nope - its blue |
| 20:50.08 | Polarina | Drundia: None of these are required. |
| 20:50.37 | [melin] | seems GetItemCount can just count items.. no scan needed |
| 20:50.42 | Polarina | Drundia: When all that has to be done is to fix the unitId matching in the Unit*() functions. |
| 20:50.57 | [melin] | oh it was red |
| 20:51.11 | ScytheBlade1 | [melin]: that means that the page does not exist yet :) |
| 20:51.13 | Drundia | are all needed names forbidden? |
| 20:51.21 | Drundia | like "Pettarget"? |
| 20:51.34 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer_jokes "This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject." |
| 20:51.39 | Adys | thats for you Shirik you'll love it |
| 20:51.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I know that "party" is a name that you can't take as a character |
| 20:51.55 | Mikk | Pet names |
| 20:52.05 | Polarina | Drundia: The Unit*() functions only seem to match the beginning of the passed argument and doesn't check the whole string. |
| 20:52.16 | Maldivia | If you call yourself petuna, then you can't do UnitName("petuna") - it will return your pet |
| 20:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: ping |
| 20:53.08 | Mikk | You can't do UnitName("Maldivia") either. UnitName doesn't take player names |
| 20:53.23 | Drundia | Zootfizzle, I wanted to ask you a few more things: are Scrolling Message Frames getting their lag fixed? |
| 20:53.33 | Drundia | Mikk, it does for raid members |
| 20:53.46 | Maldivia | Mikk, it does for players in your group/raid |
| 20:53.50 | Mikk | Mkay |
| 20:53.51 | Polarina | Drundia: Write a patch to fix it and hand it over to Zootfizzle. :) |
| 20:54.03 | Drundia | it needs access to c source :( |
| 20:54.10 | Polarina | Drundia: It's written in Lua.. |
| 20:54.25 | Drundia | scrolling lag in them? |
| 20:54.33 | Drundia | Do you know the problem I'm talking about? |
| 20:54.39 | sag_ich_nicht | http://wowwebstats.com/afwkkwgz1elyw?s=4978-5270 |
| 20:54.46 | sag_ich_nicht | *at his |
| 20:54.49 | Drundia | any call to AddMessage() or Scroll*() method causes lag if visible text changes |
| 20:54.50 | [melin] | Polarina to include bank it'd be GetItemCount(item, 1) ? |
| 20:54.50 | Polarina | Drundia: Aren't you talking about the Scrolling Combat Text? |
| 20:54.57 | Polarina | [melin]: Yes. |
| 20:55.01 | Drundia | I'm talking about Scrolling Message Frames |
| 20:55.01 | [melin] | awsome |
| 20:55.06 | Drundia | it's object type |
| 20:55.08 | Polarina | Drundia: My mistake. |
| 20:55.10 | Zootfizzle | I'm not in here for Zootfizzle Q and A time right now guys |
| 20:55.12 | [melin] | does it return nil if 0? |
| 20:55.21 | [melin] | or an actual 0? |
| 20:55.26 | Mikk | test it |
| 20:55.36 | Polarina | [melin]: 0 if there are no items with that ID found. |
| 20:55.50 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.58 | Drundia | Zootfizzle, Iriel should have informed some of UI programmers a few days ago about that issue. |
| 20:56.18 | Mikk | Then it's done isn't it |
| 20:56.23 | Drundia | And he said they said they'd look into it |
| 20:56.24 | Mikk | Stop annoying our UI gnome |
| 20:56.24 | Mikk | ! |
| 20:56.37 | Drundia | But I heard no real news since that time :( |
| 20:56.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Drundia: please see what Zoot just said :) |
| 20:56.42 | Drundia | Yes-yes |
| 20:56.43 | ScytheBlade1 | 16:55 <@Zootfizzle> I'm not in here for Zootfizzle Q and A time right now guys |
| 20:57.00 | Drundia | :( |
| 20:57.00 | sag_ich_nicht | look |
| 20:57.08 | sag_ich_nicht | i'll let achmed speak on this issue |
| 20:57.13 | sag_ich_nicht | SILENCE. |
| 20:57.16 | sag_ich_nicht | i keel you! |
| 20:57.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:57.33 | Adys | points for the ref sag :D |
| 20:57.43 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: pong! |
| 20:58.15 | sag_ich_nicht | Adys i don't see you doing ~sag_ich_nicht++ |
| 20:58.16 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 20:58.26 | Adys | ~sag_ich_nicht++ |
| 20:58.28 | Adys | sorry ! |
| 20:58.31 | sag_ich_nicht | ~karma sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:58.31 | purl | sag_ich_nicht has karma of 1 |
| 20:58.33 | MentalPower | ~kharma sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:58.34 | sag_ich_nicht | excellen |
| 20:58.35 | sag_ich_nicht | t |
| 20:58.41 | MentalPower | ~kharma MentalPower |
| 20:58.46 | MentalPower | ~karma MentalPower |
| 20:58.46 | purl | mentalpower has neutral karma |
| 20:58.47 | sag_ich_nicht | without the h |
| 20:58.50 | sag_ich_nicht | ^^ |
| 20:58.51 | Mikk | ~sag_ich_night-- |
| 20:58.57 | sag_ich_nicht | :( |
| 20:59.04 | Mikk | ~MentalPower++ |
| 20:59.04 | Adys | ~Mikk++ |
| 20:59.11 | sag_ich_nicht | ~Mikk-- |
| 20:59.12 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 20:59.12 | Adys | ~karma c |
| 20:59.12 | purl | c has karma of 10 |
| 20:59.16 | Adys | ohh |
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| 21:07.25 | Adys | This is getting out of hand |
| 21:07.28 | Adys | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_keep_an_idiot_busy_for_hours |
| 21:07.53 | [Liquidor] | Who's your Daddy? |
| 21:08.32 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilingual_pun . |
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| 21:10.23 | [melin] | any chance my events wont fire when I send an addon message myself? |
| 21:10.57 | Esamynn | nope |
| 21:11.49 | [melin] | so it does fire on my own messages? |
| 21:11.58 | ArrowmasterClass | dont think it does |
| 21:12.04 | ArrowmasterClass | unless you whisper yourself |
| 21:12.23 | Esamynn | it does |
| 21:12.26 | [melin] | it fires on my guildmessages so |
| 21:12.39 | Shirik | it does |
| 21:12.42 | Esamynn | it won't fire for messages that are whispered |
| 21:12.47 | [melin] | no I know |
| 21:12.56 | Esamynn | because you aren't one of the recipients |
| 21:12.59 | [melin] | so.. if event == "CHAT_MSG_ADDON" then BB_FindItem(arg1,arg2,arg3,arg4); end - correct? |
| 21:13.32 | Esamynn | you might want to filter on the first arg there as well |
| 21:13.44 | ScytheBlade1 | [melin]: then BB_FindItem(self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4) |
| 21:14.01 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: try again ;) |
| 21:14.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: wrong order? :( |
| 21:14.15 | [melin] | you mean if arg1 == "my prefix" ? |
| 21:14.19 | [melin] | added I mean |
| 21:14.21 | Esamynn | [melin]: yes |
| 21:14.29 | [melin] | true |
| 21:14.33 | [melin] | saves some traffic I gues |
| 21:14.36 | [melin] | guess* |
| 21:14.41 | Esamynn | ScytheBlade1: if you're using the local event args, they aren't named arg1, arg2 etc. |
| 21:14.42 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest I haven't played with the "new" stuff a lot. I mostly just write one-line random things that go poof when I reload :P |
| 21:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Esamynn: Oh, yeah, pfft |
| 21:14.54 | Esamynn | :P |
| 21:14.55 | ScytheBlade1 | s/arg1-etc/.../ |
| 21:18.28 | [melin] | oy.. its working :P |
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| 21:25.56 | Kaldeen | I would like to ask about the Cosmos Minimap button. I seemed to have removed it from the minimap and now I can't find how to make it appear again |
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| 21:46.49 | [melin] | Kaldeen tried /cosmos ? |
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| 21:49.35 | sag_ich_nicht | Kaldeen you havent, go check the right side of your screen for a small yellow indicator |
| 21:49.40 | sag_ich_nicht | get your mouse there :P |
| 21:50.45 | Duman | heh |
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| 22:04.29 | Vestlan | Are there directions for installing the Mods anywhere? |
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| 22:05.09 | Vangual | heh |
| 22:05.14 | Kirov | Aparently not |
| 22:05.28 | Kirov | Damn, I was looking for them too, but I was too impatient to find out either. |
| 22:05.29 | Vangual | lotsa patience there |
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| 22:20.25 | batrick | Shirik: ping |
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| 22:52.56 | Polarina | Good night. |
| 22:55.22 | Zootfizzle | ~seen Guillotine |
| 22:55.24 | purl | guillotine <n=Guilloti@wsip-68-15-93-73.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 21h 12m 47s ago, saying: 'it just says it now reduces mana cost. doesn't say that it doesn't increase flight speed'. |
| 22:55.52 | Polarina | :O |
| 22:56.27 | Zootfizzle | o_O |
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| 22:57.19 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Do you think that patch will make it into 2.4.2? (Sorry for asking. :() |
| 22:57.45 | MentalPower | Polarina: what patch? |
| 22:57.48 | Zootfizzle | Polarina: No, I'm not going to make that change because it conflicts with other future changes we're making to the ChatFrame. |
| 22:58.05 | Drundia | What change? |
| 22:58.18 | MentalPower | like bees to honey... |
| 22:58.21 | MentalPower | :P |
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| 22:58.36 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: What about filterFunc(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11) ? |
| 22:58.55 | MentalPower | eww |
| 22:59.26 | Drundia | is it about combat log? maybe jsut change the damn function to not be upvalue? |
| 22:59.46 | Polarina | MentalPower, Drundia: http://rafb.net/p/Mo3BSd42.html |
| 22:59.48 | Polarina | That patch. |
| 23:00.01 | Zootfizzle | Polarina: No. |
| 23:00.06 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Why? |
| 23:00.15 | Zootfizzle | ignore +Polarina |
| 23:00.18 | Zootfizzle | ... |
| 23:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina: let me clear it up |
| 23:00.45 | MentalPower | Polarina: allow me to quote |
| 23:00.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina: quit bugging him, and use the UI suggestions thread |
| 23:00.57 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: I can't access it. |
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| 23:00.59 | Zootfizzle | It's complicated and has to do with our internal processes. Changing code because it saves a global lookup is not worthwhile to us. |
| 23:01.14 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Ok. Sorry. :( |
| 23:01.26 | Zootfizzle | I realize it would be more efficient Lua ;) |
| 23:01.27 | MentalPower | Polarina: "Zootfizzle>Polarina: No, I'm not going to make that change because it conflicts with other future changes we're making to the ChatFrame." |
| 23:01.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Polarina: then type it up, put it on pastey, and ask us to post it. We do that commonly for those without US forums access. |
| 23:01.40 | Drundia | oh so it's just changing from globals to locals.... |
| 23:02.51 | Polarina | Zootfizzle: Well, that's why I made the patch instead of bugging you with "make it pass the rest of the arguments". But nevermind about that then. |
| 23:03.31 | Zootfizzle | Polarina: I appreciated the patch you made, it let me see what you wanted us to do quite effectively, it's just not the kind of change that we would make for a point release on a patch when we're already going to change the code. |
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| 23:05.05 | [melin] | Polarina thanks btw.. now my guildmates can search each others inventory without spamming guildchat |
| 23:05.49 | Zootfizzle | I really don't want to talk about requests anymore, or answer questions, I'm just in here to see what's up with the community and get a sense of what you guys are up to and would like to see changed. Specific things are usually best left to forums. I realize not all of you have access to the US forums where I can respond, and I intend to be in here so we can talk about this kind of stuff more, but it will be something |
| 23:06.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Zootfizzle: cut off at "but it will be something" |
| 23:06.29 | [melin] | Zootfizzle uhm.. what? |
| 23:06.31 | Zootfizzle | I suck at seeing things go buy and ignoring them, I want to respond to you because I hate being ignored. |
| 23:06.42 | Zootfizzle | ...but it will be something structured, and I promise there will be both advance notice and clear announcements. |
| 23:06.58 | art3mis | you could always post and talk on the wowinterface forums ;P |
| 23:07.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Better. ;) |
| 23:07.22 | Zootfizzle | It's not a hard and fast rule, I realize there will be exceptions and I'm fine with that, just please try and generally respect it. |
| 23:07.50 | Kirov | Polarina - think about it in this way. Any change, even small ones, require permission from a lead to add, which usually requires permission from that lead's lead, etc. After it gets in, it requires a restart of all testing processes to make sure it didn't break anything or cause any problems. After that's through it can make it in to the game. That's vastly simplifying the issue, but changing a single line in a bit of code vs. rewriting an entire syste |
| 23:07.54 | art3mis | Zootfizzle: think you could make it so that sabo and antiarc are perm banned from the forums and that omen becomes the first banned illegal addon? |
| 23:08.38 | Zootfizzle | art3mis: Yes, and your unicorn order is in the mail. ;) |
| 23:08.44 | art3mis | sweet! |
| 23:08.46 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:09.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I am curious though |
| 23:09.03 | art3mis | did you encase the horn in styrofoam ike the special instructions indicated? |
| 23:09.03 | ScytheBlade1 | What'd I do? |
| 23:09.11 | art3mis | ScytheBlade1: you're a troll ;) |
| 23:09.16 | Drundia | can we have all addons banned during the next 1st april? |
| 23:09.21 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: hey, I resemble that comment! |
| 23:09.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Er, wait |
| 23:09.23 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 23:09.30 | art3mis | i was hop[ing taht he'd remember you're a troll and say yes thus accepting the other conditions as well ;) |
| 23:09.47 | art3mis | sorta like riders in the house ;) |
| 23:10.01 | ScytheBlade1 | art3mis: I actually had an idea for an actual addon I could write. Of course, that's as far as it has gone so far. ;) |
| 23:10.11 | art3mis | laugh |
| 23:10.13 | [melin] | tell us =) |
| 23:10.15 | Kirov | Polarina - also note that the majority of the people in this chat, especially those who are ops or moderators are here to act as something of a filter for those like Zootfizzle and other blues. |
| 23:10.18 | art3mis | i have lots of ideas and suck at coding |
| 23:10.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Profession sync across guildies. Install the addon, and it syncs in a staggered method what professions you have, and what you can make. |
| 23:10.59 | ScytheBlade1 | No more "hey you can enchant my mongoose????" |
| 23:11.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Followed by "anyone????" |
| 23:11.09 | ScytheBlade1 | "anyone?!" |
| 23:11.26 | MentalPower | NO, STOP BUGGING ME! Sbo! |
| 23:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: ping |
| 23:11.32 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: ping |
| 23:11.36 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 23:11.37 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: ping |
| 23:11.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 23:11.45 | art3mis | and these lazy bastards wont make me shit |
| 23:12.12 | art3mis | mentalpower? |
| 23:12.20 | art3mis | why would you say mentalpwoer scythe? |
| 23:12.26 | art3mis | why would you say mentalpower scythe? |
| 23:12.28 | Cairenn | be grateful, actually - there had been a standing rule of "don't bug the blizz folks about stuff, they come in here to hang out and relax" - it's been relaxed *somewhat* at Zoot's request, but come on |
| 23:12.39 | art3mis | if you said mentalpower you'd think that you were talking to him |
| 23:12.49 | art3mis | not just merely triggering mentalpower's beep |
| 23:12.57 | Kirov | We could use our great mentalpower to think of ways to annoy him. |
| 23:13.18 | art3mis | Cairenn: you're confused |
| 23:13.31 | art3mis | by them coming in here it means we've got a direct conduit to god ;) |
| 23:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: and server == "Doomhammer" |
| 23:13.43 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: get it right the first round |
| 23:14.01 | art3mis | might wanna use Rozaklyn, mentalpower |
| 23:14.06 | art3mis | might wanna use Rozalyn, mentalpower |
| 23:14.09 | art3mis | ;) |
| 23:14.15 | MentalPower | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:14.15 | purl | cuts ScytheBlade1 into thin stripes |
| 23:14.19 | MentalPower | ~lart art3mis |
| 23:14.19 | purl | runs at art3mis with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 23:14.19 | art3mis | didja play with qemu btw? |
| 23:14.23 | MentalPower | ~lart Kirov |
| 23:14.23 | purl | wallops Kirov with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 23:14.28 | art3mis | no need for that i have my own |
| 23:14.32 | art3mis | ~lart3mis |
| 23:14.32 | purl | ACTION smacks art3mis upside the head just cuz |
| 23:14.35 | art3mis | see |
| 23:14.43 | MentalPower | but it wasn't just cuz :) |
| 23:14.46 | MentalPower | I had a reason! |
| 23:14.52 | art3mis | lies, lies and slander |
| 23:14.59 | MentalPower | I installed puppy linux on my pendrive |
| 23:15.05 | MentalPower | replacing pendrivelinux |
| 23:15.11 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:15.12 | MentalPower | much better and smaller |
| 23:15.20 | art3mis | pendrive is a etch version of DSL |
| 23:15.22 | MentalPower | and it has packages :) |
| 23:15.36 | MentalPower | DSL? |
| 23:15.40 | art3mis | dam small linux |
| 23:15.45 | MentalPower | ah |
| 23:15.58 | art3mis | you can run full fledged ubuntu too |
| 23:16.10 | art3mis | if ya wanna see something neat for shits and giggles install gOS |
| 23:16.24 | art3mis | it's like the perfect 'holy crap im bored and wanna play on the internet" os |
| 23:16.34 | art3mis | hot links to google maps youtube etc |
| 23:16.43 | art3mis | as big icons on the bottom |
| 23:16.51 | MentalPower | ubuntu is a tad big tho |
| 23:17.10 | art3mis | the funniest thing ive seen abuot qemu is that it uses a default cirrus video driver |
| 23:17.36 | art3mis | yet all the os's still have the nvidia/ati driver installers/envy |
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| 23:23.47 | Yssaril | can anyone help me with the new GetQuestSpellLink() function? i use SelectQuestLogEntry(i) to select me log entry and everything else scans fine but GetQuestSpellLink() always returns nil (yet when you click the spell you can get a link in yoru chat just fine) GetQuestSpellLink() is found on line 166 and 180 of the QuestFrameTemplates.xml from the PTR |
| 23:25.11 | batrick | any screen experts around? I'm trying to look at output from a program that overflowed by terminal window size... any way to scroll up basically? |
| 23:25.32 | ScytheBlade1 | shift+pageup |
| 23:25.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, screen. Don't think that's buffered |
| 23:25.53 | batrick | doesn't seem to work |
| 23:25.57 | batrick | it has to be |
| 23:26.02 | ScytheBlade1 | By default, anyways - you'd probably have to configure it in screen |
| 23:26.19 | batrick | because if I grow my terminal size it shows more output (I can't grow it anymore) |
| 23:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm. Well, in that case, you win `man screen` ;D |
| 23:26.40 | Atriace | Does anyone see a problem with this? testString:SetText("|c00ff0000Honored|r") |
| 23:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't worry, it's only like 9012834098 pages long. You'll be done in no time |
| 23:26.50 | Atriace | I'm not getting a color out of it. |
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| 23:27.16 | Yssaril | Atriace: try testString:SetText("|cffff0000Honored|r") |
| 23:27.30 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: try C-a escape |
| 23:27.48 | durcyn | batrick: if it's out of the buffer you're boned, but you can scroll back by entering copy mode, C-a [ |
| 23:27.55 | batrick | ScytheBlade1: that did it <3 |
| 23:28.07 | ScytheBlade1 | batrick: `man screen` ftw ;) |
| 23:28.09 | batrick | thanks durcyn as well |
| 23:28.20 | batrick | well, I looked through the man pages and couldn't find anything :P |
| 23:28.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Eh, mine was 2300 lines long. I just used search to find it ;) |
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| 23:29.32 | Atriace | ... weird. Still nothing. Oddest thing is it's actually printing |cffff0000Honored|r to the string rather than just "Honored" |
| 23:29.50 | Zootfizzle | Are you using ChatEdit? |
| 23:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Atriace: \126cffff0000Honored\126r |
| 23:30.01 | Atriace | Zootfizzle: no. |
| 23:30.04 | ScytheBlade1 | (126? 128? Now I can't remember :() |
| 23:30.09 | Zootfizzle | It's 12 |
| 23:30.10 | Zootfizzle | 124 |
| 23:30.12 | batrick | !lua "\126" |
| 23:30.12 | batbot | batrick: > ~ |
| 23:30.14 | batrick | !lua "\124" |
| 23:30.15 | batbot | batrick: > | |
| 23:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | 124, bah |
| 23:30.22 | Duman | PIPE |
| 23:30.43 | ScytheBlade1 | \124cffff0000Honored\124r |
| 23:30.46 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:30.47 | batrick | that's really weird, I stilld on't get what blizzard did there |
| 23:31.28 | Atriace | Now it's returning ~cffff0000Honored~r |
| 23:31.34 | batrick | lol |
| 23:31.36 | Duman | heh |
| 23:31.37 | batrick | use \124 |
| 23:31.46 | Atriace | alright |
| 23:31.49 | Yssaril | Zootfizzle: do you have any idea how GetQuestSpellLink() works? cause when i try to use it it always returns nil but it seams to work just fine when trying to link from the combat log |
| 23:32.49 | Yssaril | i use SelectQuestLogEntry(i) to select my log entry everything else i can get links for just not spells |
| 23:32.49 | Atriace | That worked (ScytheBlade1, batrick) |
| 23:32.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Good ;) |
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| 23:33.15 | Atriace | I've never had to do that with my other strings... I wonder what caused this. |
| 23:33.26 | batrick | blizzard must have messed with the string lexer, I'd be interested to see what they did |
| 23:33.29 | art3mis | http://cgi.ebay.com/PS3-Laptop-one-of-a-kind_W0QQitemZ300217494195QQihZ020QQcategoryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | If it's in a .lua then you don't need to - if you're typing it in game, you need to escape the | |
| 23:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | If it won't work in the .lua, I've got no clue. |
| 23:34.26 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:34.42 | Atriace | doh... lol |
| 23:35.04 | kd3 | jesus, 23k |
| 23:35.21 | ScytheBlade1 | 23k? 23k what? |
| 23:35.21 | Atriace | Then I might still be in a rut. I was testing that script in WoW directly, but not from the Lua. For some reason defining it from the Lua always returned a red text. |
| 23:35.30 | Lukian | http://www.explosm.net/comics/1245/ |
| 23:35.52 | kd3 | the auction for the PS3 laptop |
| 23:35.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 23:36.02 | Duman | wtf? |
| 23:36.10 | Duman | ps3 laptop? |
| 23:36.40 | [Liquidor] | Don't miss the latest episode of Retarded Policeman (Episode 9: Boobs!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDlf6hA6TY :P |
| 23:36.44 | art3mis | its only a ps3 with a built in lcd |
| 23:36.54 | Duman | 23k pesos, I hope |
| 23:37.00 | art3mis | had he actually hacked it to also boot as a functional laptop he would have at least gotten 1 bid |
| 23:37.07 | batrick | actually, they probably just gsub | out (in game chat) so you can't make colors when sending messages to other people |
| 23:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:37.21 | Duman | yeah it's probabyl filtered |
| 23:37.30 | Kirov | Atriace - it's because when you type in | to any text field in WoW it's actually an escaped || so that it actually shows the character in the string. |
| 23:37.32 | Duman | just like how you can't (well, don't want to..) type \n right now :) |
| 23:37.49 | Duman | glad that's fixed in 2.4.2 :-D |
| 23:37.56 | kd3 | meh, I'm still kinda sad that got nerfed. instalogouts were useful |
| 23:37.59 | Drundia | you can type \n into multi-line editbox |
| 23:38.09 | Duman | I've dc'd myself a couple times (accidentally) when trying to correct something I typoed :-( |
| 23:38.23 | Duman | (and hitting \ after I hit [BS]) |
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| 23:39.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe. /run SendChatMessage("\n", "SAY") |
| 23:39.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Always fun. |
| 23:39.16 | Duman | there used to be some fun bugs in ircd with high-ascii versions of newline :P |
| 23:39.25 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, nice |
| 23:39.31 | Duman | granted this was way back in like '93 or so |
| 23:39.42 | Duman | but if a bug is there, someone will find it :-) |
| 23:39.45 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.46 | Drundia | what does that script do on PTR? |
| 23:39.50 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.57 | Duman | ./tsunami art3mis |
| 23:39.59 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.01 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:40.04 | Duman | hehe |
| 23:40.21 | art3mis | we're old |
| 23:40.24 | Duman | amen |
| 23:40.35 | Duman | ircd has (greatfully) changed a decent amount since I last worked on it |
| 23:40.45 | Duman | at least the common ircd on efnet... as well as all the branches these days |
| 23:40.49 | Duman | but I digress, sorry :) |
| 23:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmm, Hyperion. |
| 23:41.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I've been half-tempted to give hyperion a try |
| 23:41.05 | art3mis | long live efnet ;P |
| 23:41.08 | art3mis | and the slothbot |
| 23:41.11 | Duman | haha |
| 23:41.34 | art3mis | our slothbots in #w have like 4-5 year uptimes ;P |
| 23:41.49 | art3mis | and we're one of 2 channels without a timestamp |
| 23:41.51 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:41.54 | Duman | hehe, nice |
| 23:41.59 | art3mis | #tz is the other |
| 23:42.12 | Duman | yeah #tz is eternally broken anyway |
| 23:42.17 | Duman | damn, I haven't been on there in eons tho |
| 23:42.25 | Duman | wonder if I can find a way in still |
| 23:42.26 | art3mis | heh |
| 23:42.29 | art3mis | i blame comstud |
| 23:42.38 | Duman | heh |
| 23:42.56 | art3mis | oh tw incase anyone missed my happy shouting this morning |
| 23:43.11 | art3mis | motorhead, judas priest and testament at jones beach this summer |
| 23:43.16 | art3mis | how awesome is that |
| 23:43.27 | Duman | man, I havent' listened to testament in a long time |
| 23:43.35 | art3mis | saw megadeth last night |
| 23:43.39 | Duman | damn, nice |
| 23:43.41 | art3mis | my body is still sore |
| 23:43.55 | Sixen | =o? What's #w and #tz, and what makes them special? |
| 23:44.05 | Duman | I'm going to see Megadeth + In Flames + Children of Bodom on my bday :) |
| 23:44.22 | Duman | sixen: #Twilight_Zone on efnet... where all (most/many) of the opers hang out |
| 23:44.48 | Sixen | I see. |
| 23:44.56 | Duman | damn, it's still +i |
| 23:44.57 | Duman | hehe |
| 23:45.30 | Duman | hah |
| 23:45.32 | Duman | speaking of 0 TS |
| 23:45.37 | Duman | [03:29PM:irc.wh] Server hub.efnet.nl changing TS on #dvdtech from 1209076156 to 0 |
| 23:45.37 | Duman | [03:29PM:irc.wh] Server hub.efnet.nl changing TS on #avcd-siteops from 1209076140 to 0 |
| 23:45.38 | Duman | lol |
| 23:45.47 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:46.00 | Duman | awesomesauce broken TS |
| 23:46.17 | Duman | ps, if I ramble too much about ircd just tell me to STFU :) |
| 23:46.30 | Zootfizzle | Yssaril: I'm pretty sure that function doesn't do what you think it does, try asking in here for a more general solution to the problem you want to solve. |
| 23:49.17 | Atriace | Foul trickery! |
| 23:49.37 | Duman | hahaha |
| 23:49.44 | Duman | same as typing \n |
| 23:49.57 | Duman | shoulnd't kick you on the PTR any more tho ;) |
| 23:50.09 | Atriace | Well... not like I use it, but woopie |
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| 23:53.52 | MentalPower | lua> 512^2 |
| 23:54.15 | MentalPower | --> 512^2 |
| 23:54.16 | batbot | MentalPower: > 262144 |
| 23:54.27 | MentalPower | this is gonna be fun! |
| 23:56.14 | batrick | try SendChatMessage("\0\n", "SAY") |
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| 23:56.54 | Sixen | So, what's the D in IRCD for? |
| 23:57.09 | sioraiocht | daemon |
| 23:57.18 | Sixen | agGotcha |
| 23:58.09 | Duman | yeah.. the server |
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