| 00:00.07 | amro | oh, I have a spare |
| 00:00.11 | amro | I just need to find it >< |
| 00:00.24 | Shirik | please be sure to discharge the cap before doing that |
| 00:00.43 | Corrodias | how do you do that? |
| 00:01.06 | Shirik | paper clip or whatever |
| 00:01.13 | Shirik | screwdriver |
| 00:01.18 | Shirik | (a correctly insulated screwdriver) |
| 00:02.09 | amro | the spare was sitting there in front of me for weeks, not long ago I decided to stash it somewhere I don't remember |
| 00:02.16 | Corrodias | know what's fun? connecting the terminals of a AA battery with a paperclip. it warms up. |
| 00:02.20 | amro | why couldn't I have been too lazy to move it? |
| 00:02.38 | Corrodias | works even better with a copper wire, actually |
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| 00:04.14 | Corrodias | i was waiting for somebody to tell me it's dangerous with a risk of the battery exploding or something |
| 00:04.31 | Shirik | it's not really |
| 00:04.34 | Corrodias | damn |
| 00:04.44 | Shirik | just a single AA battery is 1.5V, there's enough resistance in a paper clip to make it relatively safe |
| 00:04.53 | Shirik | stupid, but safe |
| 00:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | haha, wow. WoW Insider has an article up, suggesting "/me has reported you as AFK. Type /afk to dispute this." be used in battlegrounds to weed out the stupid. |
| 00:05.56 | Shirik | seen that used for a few months :P |
| 00:06.07 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll also get your account actioned ;) |
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| 00:06.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/04/19/battleground-tip-of-the-day/ |
| 00:06.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm totally waiting for the retraction article |
| 00:06.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "Uh sorry about that we didn't know it was reportable" |
| 00:08.26 | Shirik | yeah I figured :P |
| 00:08.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, this migraine is fun |
| 00:08.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Random shades of black are appearing as red |
| 00:09.55 | ScytheBlade1 | This counts as both new and unique |
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| 00:18.00 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.02 | foxlit | All too catchy. |
| 00:26.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, the wiki is slow to login. |
| 00:26.39 | kd3 | we know. join #wikia and bitch with us |
| 00:26.47 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 00:28.00 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: actually, general policy question. Is it fine if I modify templates? I want to change the one at the top of the secure call API pages to say "and can only be called from Blizzard code" isntead of "from source code" |
| 00:28.38 | kd3 | go for it. unless they're specifically protected from editing (you'll get an error if you try), feel free to edit everything |
| 00:28.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Good to know |
| 00:29.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I've only done very minor editing in the past, wasn't really sure what the general policy was. |
| 00:29.23 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/WW:BOLD is the policy you're looking for |
| 00:29.47 | kd3 | ...if the wiki would load, that is |
| 00:29.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh. Loading... .... .... .... .... .... still loading .... .... .... |
| 00:30.47 | foxlit | If you want to be a bit bolder |
| 00:30.52 | foxlit | We actually need a new API tag |
| 00:31.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That's not being bold |
| 00:31.07 | ScytheBlade1 | That's re-tagging half the wiki accurately :P |
| 00:31.09 | foxlit | There's a difference between "Don't call this, seriously. Ever." |
| 00:31.23 | foxlit | and "Don't call this from insecure code while in combat lockdown" |
| 00:31.35 | foxlit | They're both {{api protected}} now, iirc. |
| 00:31.42 | ScytheBlade1 | They are, it gets problematic |
| 00:32.42 | foxlit | Ah, there is one |
| 00:32.44 | foxlit | How nice! |
| 00:33.50 | [Liquidor] | This is hardcore: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qMbGFWz9who |
| 00:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | The protectedcombatapi template? |
| 00:34.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah that's kinda ambigious |
| 00:34.48 | ScytheBlade1 | "and can only be called from secure code while in combat" |
| 00:34.50 | ScytheBlade1 | ORLY |
| 00:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | That lead me to believe that the function could be called by itself in combat :P |
| 00:35.17 | foxlit | Erm |
| 00:35.23 | foxlit | "secure" was probably better than "Blizzard" |
| 00:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | How so? |
| 00:36.10 | Iriel | I think "Cannot be called from unsecure code while in combat" is better |
| 00:36.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Iriel: that's what I was thinking too |
| 00:36.30 | Cairenn|afk | (fyi, I'm here but daughter's computer is dead again so she needs mine to work on her take-home final and studying for her other finals - if you need me for something urgent that no one else can deal with, ping me) |
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| 00:36.56 | foxlit | Because the two concepts are separate - Blizzard code may be insecure or tainted |
| 00:36.57 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: note that the link still goes to the secure code page |
| 00:37.03 | Kaso | [Liquidor] i love that |
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| 00:37.34 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone know how one may move the Quartz anchor/frame? |
| 00:37.36 | foxlit | It's the fact that your execution path is secure that confers privileges, not that you were written by blizzard :) |
| 00:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: sure - but along the same lines, the only code that can be secure is Blizzard's. (with apologies to Iriel ;)) |
| 00:38.02 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: perhaps I should explain why I wanted to change it :) |
| 00:38.16 | [Liquidor] | Mike-N-Go, /quartz? |
| 00:39.05 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: on the forums someone is trying to call protected functions by encasing it in a frame that inherits one of the secure frame templates. This still won't work, despite being 'secure'. For a beginner, it's somewhat ambigious, and everyone who knows the details won't be phased by it either. |
| 00:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: you're right, I'm not saying otherwise, but just the same... people are stupid ;) |
| 00:40.52 | Xinhuan | this argument is moot, anyone into addon programming will eventually learn it ;p |
| 00:40.55 | foxlit | The misunderstanding is clearly in what qualifies as "secure" :) |
| 00:41.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Agreed. |
| 00:43.18 | Mike-N-Go | I finally found it... |
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| 00:54.01 | Guillotine | awww, I have a 20 pound cat on my lap! hes adooorable! |
| 00:55.24 | Corrodias | 20? that's pretty large for a domestic |
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| 00:56.39 | Guillotine | hes gigantic |
| 00:57.05 | Cairenn|afk | Maine Coon? |
| 00:57.34 | Shirik | the druid has done 15% of the healing |
| 00:57.41 | Guillotine | No idea. He was found in an alley. Seems to be a bit of everything though |
| 00:57.59 | Shirik | no! |
| 00:58.02 | Shirik | I demand you unpoof |
| 00:58.13 | Guillotine | pewf? |
| 01:02.16 | Corrodias | 15%? that's not much so far |
| 01:02.41 | Corrodias | it may be that he's getting "beat to it" by the others if the healing isn't demanding enough yet |
| 01:02.50 | Corrodias | or it could be that he's assuming he will be and not trying |
| 01:10.49 | Wobin_ | I was going to say: "You paid 20 pounds for a cat?" |
| 01:11.04 | Wobin_ | Then I realised: "Oh. Silly imperial measurements" |
| 01:21.44 | Guillotine | http://guill.appspot.com/0419081800a.jpg awww, isn't he adorable? |
| 01:22.08 | Olison | Awww |
| 01:22.16 | Guillotine | http://guill.appspot.com/0419081800.jpg <-- you can see how fat he is (kind of) |
| 01:22.31 | Olison | I had a cat of the same kind once, his name was Djego :D |
| 01:22.31 | ckknight | Guillotine: can't see it :-( |
| 01:23.09 | Guillotine | <3 BitPim. Can use my phone as a normal camera and transfer pictures to computer over bluetooth |
| 01:23.13 | Guillotine | ck: its not showing up? |
| 01:23.28 | Olison | Guillotine: http://fireglow.de/755/index.php?fpp=10&did=5-1&fid=4 <3 |
| 01:23.32 | ckknight | Guillotine: get a 404 |
| 01:23.36 | ckknight | Not Found The requested URL /0419081800a.jpg was not found on this server. |
| 01:23.47 | ckknight | same with the other one |
| 01:23.47 | Guillotine | ck: I just updated it and its hosted across distributed servers |
| 01:23.52 | Guillotine | try again in about 30 seconds |
| 01:23.55 | kd3 | they wfm |
| 01:24.14 | Guillotine | Ollison: That looks JUST like Mocha (the other cat) |
| 01:24.31 | Guillotine | unfortunately, hes slightly more hyper than the fat one, so I don't think I'll be able to get a picture |
| 01:25.00 | Guillotine | seriously, I can practically swear its the same cat |
| 01:25.47 | Guillotine | boo, time to drive out of town now -_- /hate traffic. See you all later :) |
| 01:26.21 | Olison | Guillotine: hehe. All Cats are loved, though! :)) |
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| 01:26.25 | Olison | Alright, take care |
| 01:26.29 | Olison | Whops :< |
| 01:27.37 | Olison | I love this one too: http://fireglow.de/755/index.php?fpp=10&did=5-3&fid=14 |
| 01:27.45 | Olison | Such peace :) |
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| 02:08.57 | AbsoRayne | Oh my god, it wont stop snowing in Edmonton. ;_; |
| 02:13.53 | kd3 | mmm... it's 22:14 and 22c outside right now. <3 |
| 02:24.24 | Tem | snow is a myth |
| 02:24.37 | Tem | a big hoax perpetrated by those crazy notherners |
| 02:25.27 | Zyuu | thats warm |
| 02:31.17 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 02:31.31 | Shirik | huh, feels a lot warmer |
| 02:35.56 | Tem | ~weather klaf |
| 02:36.04 | Tem | fail |
| 02:36.12 | Tem | that's not the right place |
| 02:36.53 | Tem | ~weather btr |
| 02:37.07 | kd3 | ~weather ktbr |
| 02:37.27 | kd3 | only 5mph? |
| 02:38.16 | Tem | ~weather kbtr |
| 02:48.03 | AbsoRayne | ~weather YEG |
| 02:48.08 | AbsoRayne | :< |
| 02:49.38 | Shirik | ICAO is 4 digits |
| 02:49.40 | Shirik | is that US? |
| 02:50.30 | AbsoRayne | Nah |
| 02:51.48 | leethal | is there any javascript tooltip libs around that allows displaying items with gems in them? |
| 02:52.09 | Shirik | AbsoRayne: What country? |
| 02:53.47 | AbsoRayne | Canadaland |
| 02:59.17 | Shirik | It should be CYEG I believe |
| 02:59.20 | Shirik | ~weather CYEG |
| 02:59.28 | Shirik | sorry was in aran :P |
| 02:59.56 | Corrodias | i'm so glad i don't have to fight aran any more |
| 03:00.04 | Shirik | we just do it for badges |
| 03:00.12 | Shirik | I intentionally ran through two flame wreaths |
| 03:00.13 | Shirik | fun times |
| 03:00.14 | Corrodias | i'm so glad i don't have to collect badges any more :D |
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| 03:00.35 | Shirik | well I take that back |
| 03:00.39 | Shirik | I intentionally ran through one |
| 03:00.43 | Shirik | I didn't see the second |
| 03:00.47 | Shirik | it was right behind the first |
| 03:01.55 | Corrodias | now that sounds fun |
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| 03:03.50 | Shirik | need to break up the monotony somehow |
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| 03:15.46 | kandoko | If I have a table declared local to the lua file and then do table = {} to clear it before reusing, inside a lua file. Does that count as a new table created/churn? |
| 03:17.24 | Iriel | yes |
| 03:17.47 | kandoko | rats :P |
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| 03:25.39 | kandoko | Thank Iriel |
| 03:29.47 | Shirik | warlock in our raid has unholy weapon enchant |
| 03:29.48 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:30.02 | sylvanaar | cool animation |
| 03:32.54 | Corrodias | now i remember why i hate paper mario |
| 03:33.55 | Corrodias | having to hit buttons within a tiny window of opportunity on every attack and defend (or everything is at least twice as hard) is maddening |
| 03:38.49 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:38.52 | Shirik | ok, so before prince we were like |
| 03:39.01 | Shirik | I said "Ok now that I have the badge mace, Prince will finally drop my healing mace" |
| 03:39.10 | Shirik | and someone else says "No, because I'm not on my pally, the cloak will drop" |
| 03:39.14 | Shirik | guess what dropped |
| 03:39.19 | Shirik | the mace and cloak |
| 03:44.48 | widgertick | mmmm |
| 03:44.52 | widgertick | Rice and curried veggies |
| 03:44.57 | widgertick | Some days it's good to be a bachelor |
| 03:45.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Also good stuff |
| 03:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 03:45.20 | widgertick | ;) |
| 03:48.01 | Corrodias | GOD DAMN THIS GAME |
| 03:48.03 | Corrodias | i can't take much more... |
| 03:56.29 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:11.01 | Corrodias | paper mario, stupid ... timed button presses |
| 04:11.18 | Shirik | ? |
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| 04:14.04 | widgertick | Corrodias fails at prez butan! |
| 04:14.14 | Corrodias | i'm tempted to turn on an infinite health cheat just so i don't have to PUSH BUTAN any more |
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| 04:21.24 | Corrodias | oh, that might explain why i was having so much trouble. i had the emulator set to slightly faster than normal |
| 04:23.36 | Corrodias | 16.7% faster, actually |
| 04:23.55 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:23.57 | Shirik | what is this paper mario |
| 04:26.05 | Corrodias | a semi-RPG mario game for the N64 |
| 04:26.42 | Corrodias | i was all annoyed because it was being way harder than i remembered, but that was why |
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| 04:59.17 | Cairenn|afk | woot! Shirik banned by Dolby! owned! |
| 04:59.45 | kd3 | ? |
| 04:59.49 | Cairenn|afk | hehehhe |
| 05:01.10 | Shirik | :( http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0d791f9595dd748cbad818ba734cd51a.jpg |
| 05:01.42 | Cairenn|afk | hehehehe |
| 05:11.34 | kd3 | welp, my toon's copied... now all we need is the PTR |
| 05:11.51 | Shirik | you copied your toon to a non-existent ptr? |
| 05:12.06 | kd3 | they reset copies |
| 05:12.24 | kd3 | s/reset/just reset/ |
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| 05:22.17 | Shirik | ~x de en stirb nicht vor mir |
| 05:25.18 | kd3 | lmao... just woke up the roommates. fark: [Amusing] Slate plays "six degrees of Adolf Hitler" with the presidential candidates. Godwinner, at two degrees: Hitlary |
| 05:27.08 | kd3 | http://www.slate.com/id/2189464/ |
| 05:29.21 | Sixen | KD3, you have SSBB, right? |
| 05:29.40 | kd3 | ya. one of my roommates has the box now, though |
| 05:29.58 | Sixen | Ah, mmkay. I'm getting it for my Birthday. We'll have to play. |
| 05:30.57 | Adys | i just want to share a post mod report from a few hours ago on mmo champ because its epic |
| 05:31.08 | Adys | The reporter commented: "YEs Hello...I am Chris Artue of VIP blizz....I am in the Alpha..I can not say anything but please remove these leaks....Unfortunaly they are real leaks but Please boub....Ban this guy he is ruining the Alpha...Name is totenoa a Tuaren Shaman and Morcko a Undead WAr. both lvl 80......." |
| 05:31.24 | kd3 | ahahahaha |
| 05:31.41 | Adys | the report was on http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=6527.0 |
| 05:31.49 | Adys | ruining the alpha i tell ya |
| 05:33.26 | kd3 | didn't blizz C&D some site leaking BC alpha info? |
| 05:34.43 | Cairenn|afk | kd3: yes, Curse |
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| 05:38.20 | Adys | and wowwiki eventually too kd3 |
| 05:38.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: where is that report comment? |
| 05:38.45 | kd3 | whuh, we got C&D'd? /tabs open search |
| 05:38.55 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: its a moderation report |
| 05:39.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 05:39.17 | Cairenn|afk | I believe there were some others as well |
| 05:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That is an interesting screenshot |
| 05:39.23 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Burning_Crusade_DMCA_Takedown_Notice |
| 05:39.33 | Adys | anyone can do a screenshot like that ScytheBlade1 :P |
| 05:39.41 | Cairenn|afk | wowwiki complied ... iirc, they were the only ones that did |
| 05:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: yeah I know |
| 05:40.41 | Adys | just saying :) |
| 05:40.50 | Adys | and brb, coffeeh |
| 05:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: what IP did that come from? |
| 05:57.05 | batrick | oi shirik |
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| 06:06.05 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: needs more hate |
| 06:21.24 | Nom- | LOL @ New Oceanic realm |
| 06:21.32 | Sixen | Hm? |
| 06:21.34 | Nom- | So they *finally* worked out that their hardware can't support the player base |
| 06:21.50 | Nom- | So they're opening a new realm and letting all the servers which have been having constant lag problems transfer to it |
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| 06:59.54 | Arrowmaster | and like all servers that open for that reason, everybody is going to transfer to it and its going to have even more people on it than any of the previous servers did |
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| 07:10.28 | AbsoRayne | Well, time to Update the Addons, and Upload Cherry Healer. |
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| 07:34.38 | Tem | Anyone done any dreamcast emulation? |
| 07:42.39 | Shirik | help me :( |
| 07:42.52 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/6c716cdf422644e6a3a52aa0f4f29019.jpg |
| 07:44.41 | Fisker- | by help do you mean sexual assault? |
| 07:45.41 | cncfanatics | haha Shirik |
| 07:49.08 | Fisker- | i kill you cncfanatics ok_ |
| 07:49.10 | Fisker- | ? |
| 07:49.21 | Shirik | i kill Fisker- ok? |
| 07:49.38 | Shirik | ~rps |
| 07:49.39 | purl | scissors |
| 07:49.52 | Shirik | gogo |
| 07:49.55 | Shirik | rps! |
| 07:50.04 | cncfanatics | ~rps |
| 07:50.05 | purl | rock |
| 07:50.08 | cncfanatics | ME WIN |
| 07:50.10 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:50.16 | Shirik | I guess I dieded |
| 07:50.31 | Shirik|zZz | sleep and dead is basically the same |
| 07:51.02 | cncfanatics | it is ? :o |
| 07:51.14 | Shirik|zZz | yup |
| 07:51.17 | Shirik|zZz | every night when you go to sleep |
| 07:51.20 | Shirik|zZz | you actually just die |
| 07:51.28 | Shirik|zZz | death is actually just you going to sleep and forgetting to wake up |
| 07:51.37 | Shirik|zZz | usually because you're having a really really good dream |
| 07:51.49 | Shirik|zZz | but sometimes it's a nightmare, and that's why you become zombies because you start sleep walking |
| 07:52.20 | widgertick | ~rps |
| 07:52.20 | purl | scissors |
| 07:52.32 | Shirik|zZz | I know someone said that 2 seconds ago |
| 07:52.36 | Shirik|zZz | wtf owuld be the point if they didn't |
| 07:52.37 | Shirik|zZz | ~rps |
| 07:52.38 | purl | rock |
| 07:52.43 | widgertick | Cheater |
| 07:52.47 | widgertick | Variable odds let you win. |
| 07:53.05 | Shirik|zZz | obviously I hax |
| 07:53.18 | widgertick | You just typed quickly on purpose. |
| 07:54.14 | Shirik|zZz | well since purl uses srand(time()) we know that the number generated is dependent upon the current clock |
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| 07:54.31 | Shirik|zZz | so if I can isolate the formula, I can determine exactly when I need to call ~rps to ensure victory |
| 07:55.04 | Shirik|zZz | this of course relies on a suitable delay between myself and purl, but fortunately this is managable via the CTCP/PING response time |
| 07:55.30 | widgertick | That system is stastically complex enough to be actually random for anything but physicists and people who are paranoid. |
| 07:56.32 | cncfanatics | does anyone know if tooltip:SetSpell accepts anything but spellbook id's ? |
| 07:56.42 | cncfanatics | they're anoying to find :s |
| 07:56.58 | cncfanatics | and with the new spell link changes it probably changed |
| 07:57.02 | widgertick | It almost certainly accepts tab - spell |
| 07:57.10 | widgertick | Err, book, spell |
| 07:57.16 | widgertick | Whatever the really old terrible system was |
| 07:57.29 | Shirik|zZz | Hey widgertick, do you know what OCW is? |
| 07:57.46 | cncfanatics | that has been changed for sure widgertick as you can now link spells and see the tooltips even if you don't have the spell in your spellbook |
| 07:57.50 | cncfanatics | so I'm guessing it also accepts spellid's |
| 07:57.57 | widgertick | Oh |
| 07:57.59 | widgertick | I misread |
| 07:58.01 | widgertick | Spellbok ids |
| 07:58.05 | widgertick | Spellbook, rather, sorry. |
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| 07:58.25 | widgertick | I think it does accept spell ids, yeah |
| 07:58.32 | widgertick | Shirik: The MIT thingy? ;) |
| 07:58.36 | Shirik|zZz | uh |
| 07:58.38 | Shirik|zZz | no :/ |
| 07:58.43 | Shirik|zZz | it's in WoW, I found it accidentally |
| 07:58.57 | Shirik|zZz | all these: http://wowhead.com/?search=OCW |
| 07:59.03 | cncfanatics | Shirik|zZz: got an idea what to pass to SetSpell to use spellid's instead of spellbook id's ? |
| 07:59.10 | cncfanatics | just doing :SetSpell(spellid); won't work :( |
| 07:59.28 | widgertick | No idea, sorry Shirik |
| 07:59.44 | Shirik|zZz | try the name of the spell |
| 07:59.46 | Shirik|zZz | instead of the spell id |
| 07:59.54 | Shirik|zZz | I know there's some functions that take the name or the spellbook id |
| 07:59.56 | widgertick | Why are you even asking me? =x |
| 08:00.04 | Shirik|zZz | widgertick: Dunno, just random question :P |
| 08:00.08 | cncfanatics | name doesn't work |
| 08:00.11 | Shirik|zZz | something I came across today |
| 08:00.13 | cncfanatics | I'm gonna try the actual link |
| 08:00.47 | cncfanatics | won't work either |
| 08:00.55 | cncfanatics | its probably :SetSpell(spellid, BOOKTYPE_SOMETHING); |
| 08:00.59 | cncfanatics | now to figure the booktype ... |
| 08:01.26 | Shirik|zZz | unfortunately I don't mess with that stuff much so I can't really help you there |
| 08:01.29 | Shirik|zZz | I tend to do lower-level utilities |
| 08:01.30 | widgertick | cncfanatics, out of curiousity, what are you trying to get out of the tooltip? |
| 08:01.52 | cncfanatics | being able to set tooltips for spells without having to loop through the damn spellbook |
| 08:02.28 | cncfanatics | looping through the spellbook is irritating, takes cpu , memory and is pointless now =:p |
| 08:04.11 | cncfanatics | and there has to be a way now, I just need to find it |
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| 08:05.22 | cncfanatics | where in the blizz code are chat links handled ? |
| 08:06.14 | Shirik|zZz | night all, it's way too late for me |
| 08:06.23 | Iriel | There's an item ref lua file |
| 08:06.38 | cncfanatics | g'night Shirik|zZz |
| 08:06.42 | Iriel | Interface/FrameXML/ItemRef.lua: |
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| 08:06.50 | Iriel | if that's what you mean |
| 08:07.07 | cncfanatics | well, I want to figure out how to set spell tooltips |
| 08:07.11 | cncfanatics | without having the spellbook id |
| 08:07.26 | cncfanatics | like is done when you click a spelllink in the chat |
| 08:07.47 | cncfanatics | got any idea how to ? |
| 08:08.10 | Iriel | Do /dump "hi [spell link here]" |
| 08:08.14 | Iriel | then see what the format is |
| 08:08.15 | Iriel | of the link |
| 08:08.25 | Iriel | and try passing that to GameTooltip:SetHyperlink |
| 08:08.48 | cncfanatics | tnx |
| 08:09.16 | widgertick | Or you could set something up that maps spellbook ids to spell ids and never worry about what the spellbook ids actually are. |
| 08:09.17 | cncfanatics | works |
| 08:09.18 | cncfanatics | wooot |
| 08:09.18 | Nargiddley | :SetHyperlink works with "spell:id" |
| 08:09.20 | cncfanatics | thanks Iriel |
| 08:09.52 | cncfanatics | lovely |
| 08:10.03 | cncfanatics | :SetHyperlink(GetSpellLink(SpellName)); works like a charm |
| 08:11.09 | cncfanatics | removes the need for a spellbook id cache :) |
| 08:11.13 | cncfanatics | thanks Iriel |
| 08:11.21 | Iriel | np. |
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| 10:37.06 | [Liquidor] | Oh yeah incase you didn't see it last night: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
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| 11:05.50 | TheZanke | 5 fully active (non-trial) accounts! WOOHOO! |
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| 11:12.34 | TheZanke | ckknight, you there? |
| 11:12.52 | SpiderBK | why do you need 5 accs? |
| 11:12.59 | TheZanke | 5-boxing |
| 11:13.06 | SpiderBK | o_O |
| 11:13.12 | TheZanke | ^.^ |
| 11:13.16 | SpiderBK | what class are you boxing? |
| 11:13.27 | TheZanke | Hunters for the fun of it |
| 11:14.07 | TheZanke | 5 pets 5 multishots 5 traps and 5 Beast Within |
| 11:14.24 | SpiderBK | damn that must be fun:D |
| 11:14.48 | TheZanke | only lvl 6 ^.^ |
| 11:14.50 | batrick | that'd be rediculous lol |
| 11:15.20 | TheZanke | I'll make a video when I get higher |
| 11:15.25 | SpiderBK | we sometimes have a boxer with 5 elemental shamans in av, he stops the alliance on his own at ice gy |
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| 11:15.46 | ReAn | hey, where can i get class colors from? |
| 11:15.53 | ReAn | is there somewhere in the default UI? |
| 11:17.16 | Corrodias | you know... i'd like to think so |
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| 11:17.41 | [Liquidor] | ReAn, yes |
| 11:17.52 | ReAn | phew |
| 11:17.53 | TheZanke | ReAnm if you just nead them... they are on wowwiki |
| 11:17.54 | TheZanke | http://www.wowwiki.com/Class_colors |
| 11:17.59 | ReAn | excelent |
| 11:18.18 | TheZanke | they are also in RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 11:18.35 | TheZanke | in FrameXML/Fonts.xml |
| 11:19.29 | ReAn | excelent! |
| 11:19.35 | ReAn | just what i needed |
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| 11:22.59 | ReAn | metatables can be given functions right |
| 11:23.02 | ReAn | or rather |
| 11:23.06 | ReAn | if i create a frame |
| 11:23.10 | ReAn | i can add custom functions to it |
| 11:23.12 | ReAn | right? |
| 11:23.34 | [Liquidor] | For colors already given ingame take a look at http://wdnaddons.com/2418124/AddOns/Blizzard_RaidUI/Blizzard_RaidUI.lua |
| 11:23.42 | [Liquidor] | Search for RAID_CLASS_COLORS |
| 11:25.24 | SpiderBK | how can i get the size of a table with non numerical index? |
| 11:26.55 | leethal | # table_name |
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| 11:27.24 | leethal | let's see, now |
| 11:27.30 | leethal | >> t = {"foo", "bar", "baz"}; print #t; |
| 11:27.33 | leethal | meh |
| 11:28.44 | [Liquidor] | lua> "Hello" |
| 11:28.44 | lua_bot | [Liquidor]: Hello |
| 11:28.47 | [Liquidor] | ;) |
| 11:29.06 | leethal | lua> t = {"foo", "bar", "baz"}; print #t |
| 11:29.06 | lua_bot | leethal: luabot:1: '=' expected near '#' |
| 11:29.11 | leethal | oh right |
| 11:29.17 | leethal | ua> t = {"foo", "bar", "baz"}; #t |
| 11:29.20 | leethal | >< |
| 11:29.25 | leethal | lua> t = {"foo", "bar", "baz"}; #t |
| 11:29.25 | lua_bot | leethal: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '#' |
| 11:29.34 | leethal | I give up. |
| 11:30.01 | nevcairiel | lua> t = {"foo", "bar", "baz"}; return #t |
| 11:30.02 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 3 |
| 11:30.09 | [Liquidor] | Doesn't help nevcairiel |
| 11:30.30 | nevcairiel | it outputed 3, what else do you want? o.O |
| 11:30.56 | nevcairiel | oh SpiderBK's question, yeah he needs to loop over it |
| 11:31.07 | ag` | I want candy |
| 11:31.16 | [Liquidor] | nevcairiel :) |
| 11:31.34 | nevcairiel | lua> local i = 0; for k,v in pairs({a = "2", b = "3", c = 5}) do i = i+1 end retur ni |
| 11:31.34 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'ni' |
| 11:31.38 | nevcairiel | lua> local i = 0; for k,v in pairs({a = "2", b = "3", c = 5}) do i = i+1 end return i |
| 11:31.38 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 3 |
| 11:31.55 | [Liquidor] | lua> local t = { apple="green", orange="orange", banana="yellow" }; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k,v) end; |
| 11:31.55 | lua_bot | [Liquidor]: apple, green, orange, orange, banana, yellow |
| 11:34.17 | leethal | ag`: as much as you can't punch people in the face across the internet, you can't give people candy across the internet either |
| 11:34.26 | leethal | ag`: so no, you're not getting any of my chockolate |
| 11:34.31 | ag` | -.- |
| 11:34.43 | leethal | chocolate, btw |
| 11:36.12 | [Liquidor] | rofl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcCTBn_YJuE |
| 11:40.27 | Corrodias | oh dear. |
| 11:42.36 | Corrodias | another thing i hate: trying to decide on bass, treble, and surround effect settings for my audio |
| 11:42.58 | Corrodias | i wish there were a "correct" choice |
| 11:43.18 | Corrodias | i wish i could just do some math and figure out my perfect settings |
| 11:48.58 | [Liquidor] | I keep 70,180,320 around 4-7 db |
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| 11:49.43 | [Liquidor] | Then I just make a straight line from -3db to 9db |
| 11:50.06 | Corrodias | if i went and set up custom values for each band, i'd go insane long before i finished |
| 11:50.12 | [Liquidor] | :) |
| 11:54.04 | reqol | does anyone know altova's justification for removing the home edition version of xmlspy? it's a pity a watered down, but less expensive version is not available |
| 11:54.11 | SpiderBK | is it possible to insert a tab like distance to two string values? |
| 11:54.23 | nevcairiel | \t ? |
| 11:54.35 | nevcairiel | lua> "a\tb" |
| 11:54.36 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: ab |
| 11:54.51 | nevcairiel | my client shows tabs as boxes, but maybe it shows right for you :P |
| 11:55.10 | SpiderBK | maybe:D |
| 11:55.13 | SpiderBK | lets see |
| 11:59.20 | SpiderBK | hmm that doesent work, there is no space and somekind of symbol behind the second string value |
| 12:00.35 | SpiderBK | (value1.."\t|cFFFFFF00"..value2) should this be possible? |
| 12:03.43 | nevcairiel | maybe wow filters \t |
| 12:04.55 | leethal | 1 warrior, [ ... ] 7, shaman, 8 mage, 11 druid. Armory class id's. Blizz is weird =/ |
| 12:05.03 | leethal | 'sup with 9 and 10? |
| 12:05.13 | nevcairiel | "reserved" |
| 12:05.49 | Corrodias | after a careful reconsideration of bass-heavy songs, i've decided to bump it back up to 65% as a compromise. hmm. i'd still murder for someone to calibrate this by science. |
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| 12:07.42 | leethal | actually, 9 is hunter. They skip 6 and 10 |
| 12:13.03 | Snago | It could be old protoypes during pre-alpha/alpha that were scrapped later |
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| 12:17.10 | ReAn | there an isset(..) in lua? |
| 12:17.51 | ReAn | or can i just go if (mytable["indexname"] ~= nil) ? |
| 12:18.10 | Drundia | no isset(), compare with nil |
| 12:18.15 | Drundia | that's right |
| 12:18.46 | Drundia | if you are sure there are no falses you can also do like if (mytable["indexname"]) |
| 12:19.11 | ReAn | thx |
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| 12:21.01 | haste | Drundia: that one will return false if the field is set to false |
| 12:21.29 | ReAn | haste: he mentioned that |
| 12:21.40 | haste | no, he said if there weren't any falses |
| 12:22.13 | haste | tbl.field = false if(not tbl.field) then --[[executes]] end |
| 12:22.15 | ReAn | i got the picture |
| 12:33.44 | ReAn | for index,val = ipairs(mytable) do |
| 12:34.01 | ReAn | that's the correct way to do a for loop over a table (numerical indexes only) right? |
| 12:35.50 | amro | yep |
| 12:36.23 | nevcairiel | for index,val in ipairs(mytable) do |
| 12:36.25 | nevcairiel | no = |
| 12:36.38 | ReAn | ah |
| 12:36.39 | nevcairiel | although it might be faster to do |
| 12:36.39 | ReAn | thx |
| 12:36.40 | Mikk | ReAn: wrong. nevcairiel: right |
| 12:37.33 | nevcairiel | for i=1, #tbl do local val = tbl[i]; .. end |
| 12:39.23 | ReAn | table.remove(...) does that work with keys? or just numerical indexes? |
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| 12:44.19 | Mikk | it's numerical indices only |
| 12:44.24 | Mikk | there's no need for keys |
| 12:44.28 | Mikk | you just do table[key] = nil |
| 12:45.05 | ReAn | table[1] = nil will work too? |
| 12:45.48 | ReAn | nvm |
| 12:45.50 | ReAn | im just stupid |
| 12:45.55 | ReAn | i dont need keys anyway >_< |
| 12:45.55 | nevcairiel | yes, but table.remove does a shift-down too |
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| 13:16.28 | ReAn | in a multi-lua file, aka Core.lua Frame.lua Options.Frame.lua, if i declare a non-local variable @ the root level of one lua, will it be availiable to all 3 files? |
| 13:17.04 | foxlit | no |
| 13:17.25 | ReAn | how can i make a variable availiable to all 3 lua files ? |
| 13:17.40 | foxlit | make it global |
| 13:17.49 | ReAn | global myVar = ?? |
| 13:17.56 | foxlit | just myVar = ?? |
| 13:18.02 | ReAn | that what i said i did |
| 13:18.06 | amro | foxlit: I think you misread his first statement |
| 13:18.14 | foxlit | I think I missed "non-" |
| 13:18.15 | foxlit | :) |
| 13:18.38 | dylanm | I did too, to be honest. |
| 13:19.20 | amro | ReAn: if you have need for more than one, make a table with all your values |
| 13:20.16 | dylanm | Definitely try to put as little in the global namespace as possible. |
| 13:22.02 | cncfanatics | anyone that can help me on how to use GetMacroItem and GetMacroSpell ? |
| 13:22.06 | cncfanatics | I can't seem to use them correctly :( |
| 13:22.56 | Snago | cncfanatics: How are you using them? |
| 13:23.09 | cncfanatics | GetMacroSpell("macroname"); |
| 13:23.14 | cncfanatics | GetMacroSpell(macroid); |
| 13:23.15 | cncfanatics | but didn't work :( |
| 13:23.33 | Snago | cncfanatics: I've only tried with the actual name |
| 13:23.48 | Snago | GetMacroSpell("Macroname") |
| 13:24.09 | cncfanatics | weird, didn't work for me |
| 13:24.15 | cncfanatics | does the macro have to be on the actionbars ? |
| 13:24.25 | cncfanatics | I hope not :p |
| 13:24.32 | Snago | And it returned the spellname and rank as two vars |
| 13:24.41 | Snago | Don't think so |
| 13:24.55 | Snago | But the macro I tested with was iirc |
| 13:25.03 | Snago | *loggin in* |
| 13:25.16 | cncfanatics | I'll test it in a second, I tried with a castsequence |
| 13:31.01 | Snago | Works with macros not on actionbars as well. But it only returns a spell if the char actually has it. |
| 13:32.18 | Snago | Worked with a castsequence as well |
| 13:35.07 | cncfanatics | okay, thanks |
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| 13:46.16 | [Liquidor] | Are the tooltips choppy to you? (Like a low fps) http://armory.artoman.com/search.php?searchType=items&searchQuery=badge |
| 13:46.37 | [Liquidor] | Oh and no IE support right now btw |
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| 13:53.02 | wereHamster | [Liquidor], nah, tooltips display fine and fast |
| 13:53.09 | ReAn | what am i doing wrong: FrameStrata(DIALOG)FrameLevel(3) has a text item, it's showing up over the background of FrameStrata(DIALOG)FrameLevel(5) |
| 13:56.32 | ReAn | anyone? |
| 13:58.37 | wereHamster | ~patience |
| 13:58.38 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, patience is a Godly attribute, or the solution for most things. |
| 14:04.05 | Drundia | ReAn, what about draw layers? |
| 14:08.01 | ReAn | Drundia: draw layers are sorted before or after FrameLevel? |
| 14:08.28 | ReAn | I've been playing w/ the draw layers now |
| 14:09.06 | ReAn | Bottom Text: DIALOG (Level 3) ARTWORK \\ Top Background: DIALOG (Level 10) OVERLAY |
| 14:09.22 | ReAn | and the bottom text STILL shows up over top the background of the frame on top |
| 14:13.05 | nevcairiel | isnt text supposed to be above a background.. by definition? :D |
| 14:15.12 | Mikk | but one dialog is supposed to be on top of the other one |
| 14:15.20 | Mikk | i.e. frames on different levels |
| 14:19.20 | ReAn | yes |
| 14:19.27 | ReAn | so i've got text in my main dialog |
| 14:19.30 | ReAn | then i've got a frame |
| 14:19.33 | ReAn | with a higher level |
| 14:19.39 | ReAn | and it's got a texture in it |
| 14:19.58 | ReAn | the text from the main dialog is showing up OVERTOP the texture in the higher frame |
| 14:20.29 | ReAn | unless i set the text in the dialog to be in "BACKGROUND" draw level, but then it's behind the Texture in the main dialog which is in the "BACKGROUND" level |
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| 14:46.44 | SpiderBK | isnt it possible to do SetHeight() for a frame which was created inside lua? |
| 14:47.01 | dylanm | SpiderBK: Definitely. |
| 14:47.37 | SpiderBK | so it isnt possible or it is possible? |
| 14:47.43 | [Liquidor] | it is |
| 14:47.47 | [Liquidor] | Everything is possible |
| 14:47.48 | SpiderBK | ok |
| 14:48.10 | dylanm | Haha. |
| 14:48.24 | [Liquidor] | Anything*? Pfft |
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| 14:53.12 | SpiderBK | what are possible problems that i get "attempt to call method 'SetHeight' (a nil value)" ? |
| 14:54.23 | dylanm | You may not have a frame. |
| 14:54.48 | dylanm | A region, really. |
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| 15:04.20 | SpiderBK | strange, if i enter the frame name manually it works, but when i use the table entry it gives me the error:/ |
| 15:04.52 | zenzelezz | sounds like you're using the table entry incorrectly somehow then :) |
| 15:05.08 | ReAn | so in the top scope, local variables are local to the lua file, correct? |
| 15:05.35 | SpiderBK | well i printed the entry and its exactly what i entered manually.. |
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| 15:09.22 | SpiderBK | if i have the table like this table ={["target"]={["frame"]={["Layer3"]="targetLayer3",},},} and i write local unit="target"; table["target"].frame.Layer3 then i should get the "targetLayer3" right? |
| 15:10.27 | Cide | SpiderBK: www.lua.org/pi |
| 15:10.28 | Cide | SpiderBK: www.lua.org/pil |
| 15:10.47 | Cide | we teach wow programming, not lua |
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| 15:14.11 | Spider12345 | so thats wrong and you wont tell me where the problem is? |
| 15:14.25 | Cide | who said it's wrong? |
| 15:14.36 | Cide | I said "we teach wow programming, not lua" |
| 15:14.48 | Cide | go read up on the syntax yourself |
| 15:15.20 | Spider12345 | well if theres nothing wrong with it why should i read the syntax again? |
| 15:15.38 | Cide | because if you have to ask, you obviously don't know the syntax |
| 15:15.41 | zenzelezz | you asked a pure lua question |
| 15:16.29 | Spider12345 | and wheres the problem here? im no programmer and sometimes need a bit help with lua |
| 15:16.45 | Cide | and www.lua.org/pil provides you with the answers |
| 15:16.46 | Cide | we don't |
| 15:16.50 | Cide | I don't |
| 15:17.20 | ReAn | Spider12345: Cide is being a jerk, but he's right, try #lua for lua questions |
| 15:17.28 | Cide | no. |
| 15:17.40 | Cide | don't try #lua for questions answered by the PIL |
| 15:17.45 | Cide | RTFM. |
| 15:17.48 | zenzelezz | they're likely to say the same |
| 15:18.00 | zenzelezz | the PIL answers a great deal of common questions |
| 15:18.03 | Spider12345 | well maybe you can tell me why the output of the table entry doesent work with SetHeight() and the manual written name does if they are both the same. |
| 15:18.26 | Cide | :SetHeight should be used on a frame object, not a string. |
| 15:18.35 | Cide | "targetLayer3" is a string |
| 15:19.19 | ReAn | getglobal(stringvalue):SetHeight(...) will work |
| 15:19.34 | nevcairiel | somehow i dont believe that |
| 15:19.55 | ReAn | well |
| 15:20.15 | Cide | methinks ReAn takes too much for granted :P |
| 15:20.19 | ReAn | local myobject = getglobal(string_name_of_frame); |
| 15:20.23 | Cide | but you're right, I am a jerk |
| 15:20.28 | ReAn | myobject:SetHeight(...) |
| 15:20.40 | ReAn | that'll work, assuming your string is the name of a frame |
| 15:20.44 | nevcairiel | if that string is the real global name, sure |
| 15:20.50 | nevcairiel | but from that example it didnt look like it |
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| 15:23.12 | malikeye | how can I tell what the interface updater thinks is what it thinks something is ? |
| 15:23.21 | malikeye | I have something that is labeled as auctioneer, but it's not auctioneer |
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| 15:24.35 | malikeye | err, rather, I guess, what is registered as auctioneer... |
| 15:26.15 | malikeye | it's gotta keep that data somewhere |
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| 15:36.22 | malikeye | found it |
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| 15:42.55 | sag_ich_nicht | woho |
| 15:42.56 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/86097 |
| 15:43.02 | sag_ich_nicht | more weird lua induced crashes |
| 15:43.19 | sag_ich_nicht | this time the error catcher didn't pop up |
| 15:44.14 | Polarina | When adding a filter function to ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter, returning true filters the message? |
| 15:44.22 | Mikk | yes |
| 15:44.33 | Polarina | Mikk: Thanks. |
| 15:44.37 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
| 15:44.42 | Mikk | ^ very nice docos by yours truly |
| 15:44.54 | Cide | pfft. |
| 15:45.03 | Cide | how "very nice" they are must be determined by a jury of your peers |
| 15:45.23 | sag_ich_nicht | just crashed on logout after that errorflood >.< |
| 15:45.23 | Mikk | no, not if you are sufficiently confident. like me. :) |
| 15:45.37 | Cide | Mikk: bah :( |
| 15:46.15 | cladhaire | ckknight: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/12324/ if you get a chance, I don't see anyone else from curse here |
| 15:46.47 | Cide | but he's afk so much! |
| 15:47.11 | Mikk | yeah but he's good at kickbanning annoying people |
| 15:47.14 | ckknight | cladhaire: there you go |
| 15:47.16 | Cide | good point |
| 15:47.20 | ckknight | Mikk: even himself? |
| 15:47.22 | ckknight | :-P |
| 15:47.25 | cladhaire | when oh when is curse going to get any sort of fucking moderation |
| 15:47.35 | ckknight | cladhaire: pretty soon, actually |
| 15:47.37 | cladhaire | considering i was promised it almost a year ago, the first time =( |
| 15:47.52 | Cide | is that a soon, or a blizzard soon? |
| 15:47.57 | Cide | because it's starting to look like the latter |
| 15:47.58 | ckknight | Soon(TM) |
| 15:48.07 | Mikk | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 15:52.29 | ckknight | question: what happened to the Naaru in Silvermoon's basement? |
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| 15:54.01 | amro | anyone here familiar with ActionScript? |
| 15:54.46 | cladhaire | ckknight: go to Sunstrider Isle and raid :P |
| 15:55.03 | nevcairiel | muru? |
| 15:56.51 | Gnarfoz | he's gone, ckknight |
| 15:58.40 | Gnarfoz | oh, I misread that question ;D he's now the next-to-last boss in the Sunwell raid instance |
| 16:00.01 | ckknight | so who stole him? |
| 16:00.08 | ckknight | or did he escape? |
| 16:00.33 | Stanzilla | he got corrupted by a demon afaik |
| 16:01.00 | Gnarfoz | no, he's just dying |
| 16:01.17 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: Kael'thas took him, I'd say |
| 16:02.37 | Stanzilla | In Patch 2.4.0, Kael'thas and his felblood minions captured M'uru from Silvermoon City and took him to Sunwell Plateau. The magisters who were draining him now stand dazed. < |
| 16:04.45 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 16:04.55 | Fisker- | it was obvious |
| 16:05.18 | Fisker- | people already speculated from the beginning that M'uru was there of his own free will |
| 16:06.50 | Cide | so now all blood-elf paladins should have to reroll imo |
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| 16:07.15 | cladhaire | sioraiocht: ping |
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| 16:07.55 | Fisker- | no Cide |
| 16:08.05 | Fisker- | because the whole blood thing is just a placebo |
| 16:10.14 | amro | wait, so now players get to smack a naaru around? |
| 16:10.34 | Fisker- | actually he's some kind of voidspawn now |
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| 16:13.01 | amro | doesn't matter |
| 16:13.05 | amro | http://www.meghanohara.org/wordpress/2007/08/13/in-the-future/ |
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| 16:27.27 | Polarina | What do you think? 'message:gsub("[^a-zA-Z0-9]", ""):lower()'. Should I make 'gsub' and 'lower' a local upvalue and call them instead? |
| 16:34.02 | Snago | Polarina: There's a small gain, sure... But not as much as if you had string.lower(string.gsub(message, "[^a-zA-Z0-9]", "")) |
| 16:34.27 | Polarina | Snago: That I know. :) |
| 16:34.56 | Snago | Polarina: Then you decide :) |
| 16:35.03 | Polarina | Snago: Ok. |
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| 16:46.47 | Polarina | If I have a large local table in a file and don't use it, just run the file, do I have to set the local to nil for the table to get garbage collected? |
| 16:47.18 | kergoth | no |
| 16:47.43 | Polarina | kergoth: Thanks. |
| 17:02.54 | Polarina | OMG! 36.127 table lookups for the loading process. :) |
| 17:03.57 | Xinhuan | how do you get .127 |
| 17:04.22 | Polarina | Xinhuan: It's a thousand seperator. |
| 17:04.55 | Xinhuan | fairly sure . is a decimal point in lua :) |
| 17:05.08 | zenzelezz | who said he was speaking in lua? |
| 17:05.15 | Polarina | Xinhuan: 36127 table lookups. |
| 17:05.16 | Xinhuan | pfft |
| 17:05.19 | sag_ich_nicht | release frame from mouse function |
| 17:05.20 | sag_ich_nicht | QUICK |
| 17:05.25 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm in hyjal and omen is stuck to my mouse |
| 17:05.39 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: /console reloadui |
| 17:05.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: takes 2 minutes. |
| 17:05.51 | sag_ich_nicht | script command to release a frame from the mouse., |
| 17:05.53 | sag_ich_nicht | quick. |
| 17:05.55 | sag_ich_nicht | wave 6. |
| 17:06.24 | nevcairiel | you cannot without reloadui |
| 17:06.25 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: /omen toggle #twice |
| 17:06.28 | Xinhuan | k = enumerateframes() while k do k:StopMovingOrSizing() k = enumerateframes(k) end |
| 17:06.28 | zenzelezz | sux2bu |
| 17:06.29 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 17:06.35 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:06.40 | Xinhuan | if enumeerateframes() is the function anyway |
| 17:06.49 | Shirik | EnumerateFrames but yes |
| 17:06.54 | nevcairiel | try GetMouseFocus():StopMovingOrSizing() |
| 17:07.00 | nevcairiel | maybe its stuck like that :D |
| 17:07.06 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 17:07.07 | sag_ich_nicht | not what i thought of BUT thanks anyway Polarina, i should have thought of that |
| 17:07.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: hahaha, did you really reg that domain? |
| 17:07.18 | Shirik | what domain? |
| 17:07.28 | Xinhuan | www.thepiratebootybay.com |
| 17:07.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5974050378&sid=1#15 |
| 17:07.38 | Shirik | haha |
| 17:08.31 | End | nice :P |
| 17:08.37 | Shirik | no stealing RDX! |
| 17:09.47 | Shirik | SHOW TABLES; |
| 17:09.51 | Shirik | oop |
| 17:09.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Close Shirik |
| 17:10.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Now start with passwords plz kthx |
| 17:10.11 | Shirik | mysql -u root -p? |
| 17:10.20 | ScytheBlade1 | You can put the password after -p |
| 17:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | Hawt. |
| 17:10.24 | ScytheBlade1 | It's just stupid to do so |
| 17:10.25 | cladhaire | mysql -u dbuser_book db_book -p |
| 17:10.26 | Cide | -uroot -p<password> |
| 17:10.40 | Shirik | don't you have to put a space? I don't |
| 17:10.47 | Cide | nope |
| 17:10.57 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: Don't matter, root is restricted to localhost connections anyway :P |
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| 17:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | 13:10 < ScytheBlade1> It's just stupid to do so |
| 17:11.13 | ScytheBlade1 | As anyone who can run `ps` can see your password ;) |
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| 17:11.52 | ScytheBlade1 | And actually, my root user isn't restricted to localhost only |
| 17:11.57 | ScytheBlade1 | And it doesn't have a password! |
| 17:12.01 | Shirik | ! |
| 17:12.09 | End | :o |
| 17:12.11 | ScytheBlade1 | (Really) |
| 17:12.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Enjoy that |
| 17:12.35 | Lopeppeppy | Gorefiend is a PITA. Anyone got tips other than the bloody flash game at http://www.variuse.de/feroxtgs2/ ? |
| 17:12.46 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: That's about all we had :/ |
| 17:12.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: suck less |
| 17:12.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: or rather, tell that to your raid |
| 17:12.53 | Shirik | try ScytheBlade1's strategy! |
| 17:13.03 | Shirik | everyone needs to stand as far away from gorefiend as possible |
| 17:13.23 | Shirik | but yeah |
| 17:13.28 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, it's really simple |
| 17:13.32 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: 5433333333333 5433333333333 |
| 17:13.34 | Shirik | 4, 3 tab 3 tab 3 tab 3 tab |
| 17:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: have your raid create three macros, /cast spirit lance, spirit chains, and spirit volley |
| 17:13.35 | Shirik | etc |
| 17:13.44 | Shirik | if your latency is good, throw a 5 before the 4 |
| 17:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | That way if they have addons which go "lul I'm not going to work here" then they still have something that'll work |
| 17:13.58 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I'm spamming, zenzelezz. I have issues with movement though. *frowns* |
| 17:14.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 17:14.10 | zenzelezz | what movement? |
| 17:14.29 | Lopeppeppy | To stay with my ghosts in range to keep 3ing their asses to death. |
| 17:14.45 | Shirik | it's instant cast isn't it? |
| 17:14.47 | zenzelezz | I AoE, Shackle, and run ahead of them |
| 17:14.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: in general, what I do - get the debuff, move to an unoccupied corner away from everyone. Die, Spirit Volley/Spirit Chains, start walking backwards and tab/lance/tab/lance |
| 17:15.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Emphasis on the walk backwards |
| 17:15.08 | zenzelezz | staying between constructs and raid makes it easier to catch any loose constructs |
| 17:15.14 | Shirik | truth ^ |
| 17:15.19 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, it's the walk backwards that's kicking me in the teeth on the simulator. |
| 17:15.24 | ScytheBlade1 | That way you get room betweem them and you while they are shackled, and can apply the debuff on them as you need to |
| 17:15.27 | ScytheBlade1 | The simulator sucks. |
| 17:15.46 | Shirik | the simulator is only good for getting the feel of 5 4 3 |
| 17:15.47 | Shirik | that's it |
| 17:15.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't beat that stupid thing no matter what I do |
| 17:15.54 | Shirik | haha |
| 17:15.55 | Shirik | I can! |
| 17:15.58 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 fails |
| 17:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | I know, but if I can't beat it, I can't raid, soooo. Whether it helps me in the ACTUAL raid or not, I must defeat the dumb flash before I can roster. |
| 17:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | But in game it's zzzzzzz followed by laughing at people who can't kill their constructs |
| 17:16.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. |
| 17:16.17 | zenzelezz | you can't beat the simulator? o_O |
| 17:16.24 | cladhaire | <3the simulator |
| 17:16.30 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, how can they tell :P |
| 17:16.33 | Cide | the simulator fails at targeting |
| 17:16.38 | Shirik | it does |
| 17:16.38 | Shirik | a lot |
| 17:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I sincerly hate the simulator. For that very reason, Cide. |
| 17:16.44 | Lopeppeppy | I told you... issues with movement, zenzelezz... I usually move with the arrow keys, not WASD. |
| 17:16.47 | Shirik | I just click instead of tab |
| 17:16.58 | Lopeppeppy | I've noticed targeting issues too, I assumed it was me being The Fail. Hmm. |
| 17:17.05 | Xinhuan | play a mage like me, no simulator needed |
| 17:17.12 | Xinhuan | Frost nova, Ice Lance and Arcane Explosion |
| 17:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | No, the targeting issues are the simulator being fail |
| 17:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: haha agreed |
| 17:17.16 | Xinhuan | natural mage spells :) |
| 17:17.17 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: can't you just claim you've beat the simulator? |
| 17:17.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Xinhuan: like really |
| 17:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I surely could and Dumb Raid Leader 1 would never know. In fact I have beaten it just once.... But Peppy is not a liar. Either I do it or I sit out tonight and quilt. Oh, shucky darn. Help help. |
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| 17:18.23 | ScytheBlade1 | To be honest I'm really not sure what to tell you about WASD vs. arrow keys |
| 17:18.25 | Cide | I can beat the simulator just fine |
| 17:18.30 | zenzelezz | the simulator is only meant to give you an idea of the fight. It's imperfect enough to not take seriously |
| 17:18.33 | ScytheBlade1 | But yeah that would be a problem |
| 17:18.38 | Cide | but if targeting fucks up, I sometimes lose as a result |
| 17:19.24 | zenzelezz | I had guildies who could beat the simulator blindfolded, but for the life of them couldn't get it in game. As such I don't consider the simulator a precondition for raiding... if people suck, they suck |
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| 17:19.33 | Lopeppeppy | Sadly, my Raid Leader takes the game waaaaay too seriously and thinks wining it is the I Win button. |
| 17:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | In a lot of ways it is, in all honesty |
| 17:19.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Retarded yes, but he has a point |
| 17:20.02 | Lopeppeppy | I can't usually feel two fingers on my left hand, playing with my left hand sucks big time. |
| 17:20.05 | Cide | I've never even done the fight |
| 17:20.11 | Cide | but it doesn't seem very difficult at all |
| 17:20.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: the simulator is harder all around |
| 17:20.34 | Cide | yeah, and I'm awesome at everything so... /shrug |
| 17:20.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: mostly because it's stupid |
| 17:20.42 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 17:20.56 | Lopeppeppy | The simulator doesn't give you the full time length you usually have, etc etc. It's like in 2x Mickey Mouse Overload speed, from what I hear. |
| 17:21.00 | Cide | most things in the game are really simple if you have any kind of gaming background |
| 17:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: well, in that case, "try, try again" (and note that your dot doesn't have any directional limitations, so there is no need to "turn around" to lance your targets) |
| 17:21.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Just lance/tab/lance/tab/repeat and you'll get it |
| 17:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Just stay somewhat near them and regardless of your positioning you'll hit them |
| 17:22.15 | Lopeppeppy | I've noticed that the lance is omnidirectional, which helps. |
| 17:22.22 | ScytheBlade1 | It isn't in game :) |
| 17:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That is more simulator fail :) |
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| 17:22.53 | Lopeppeppy | As in, I do HAVE to be in front of them in-game for the lance to work? |
| 17:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | You have to be facing them |
| 17:23.02 | Shirik | well, they have to be in front of you |
| 17:23.08 | Shirik | you don't have to be in front of them |
| 17:23.09 | Shirik | but it helps |
| 17:23.16 | Lopeppeppy | Facing, got it. |
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| 17:24.06 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: the only reason to be in front of them is so tab-targetting will be on your side when a construct is loose and running for the raid (so it comes at you instead of running away from you) |
| 17:24.35 | ScytheBlade1 | It should be noted that the above is a really, really good reason to be between them and the raid. |
| 17:24.43 | Lopeppeppy | Helps me corral the loose ghosties better. *nod* I assume v-key helps for targeting too. |
| 17:24.50 | ScytheBlade1 | If you need to yeah |
| 17:25.04 | Lopeppeppy | Do they show differently if they are my ghosts versus someone elses? Should I turn visible nameplates back on? |
| 17:25.06 | zenzelezz | it can be, depending on how you do your targetting. Helps identify hem at least |
| 17:25.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope |
| 17:25.14 | zenzelezz | constructs are constructs |
| 17:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | You can help kill other people's ghosts also |
| 17:25.23 | ScytheBlade1 | And vice-versa |
| 17:25.55 | zenzelezz | so once yours are down, check the raid for loose ones and help out on the next ones |
| 17:26.24 | Lopeppeppy | So if someone else has ghosts up at the same time, I could accidentally be killing theirs and not mine. Swell. |
| 17:26.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Also, if you are made of epic, win, and awesome, you can check out the other abilities on the ghost and use them to great effect |
| 17:26.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: in that case, NO ONE can tell if it was you or them |
| 17:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | They are as much to "blame" as you" |
| 17:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | s/you"/you/ |
| 17:27.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Second, your AoE abilities (chains and volley) are on a 15s CD |
| 17:27.35 | ScytheBlade1 | So if that happens, usually, one of the two people as ghosts will have those up and can be used |
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| 17:27.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That can help immensely |
| 17:27.46 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. With luck I can re-shackle a few of mine, etc.... |
| 17:27.50 | Xinhuan | Lopeppeppy, you tank gorefiend in one end of the room, and ghosted ppl run to the other end, to avoid 2 player's ghosts overlapping each other, 2 successive people will always run to different corners |
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| 17:28.21 | Xinhuan | in any case, this is almost never an issue because one person's ghost is usually ALL killed before the next person's spawns, with about 10-15 secs of "do nothing" |
| 17:28.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I've got a bunch of elixirs of dream vision, and I'm headed over to BT now to grab screenshots ;) |
| 17:28.32 | Xinhuan | and u end up just walking over to the raid and buffing your MT |
| 17:28.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:06] <Xinhuan> k = enumerateframes() while k do k:StopMovingOrSizing() k = enumerateframes(k) end <--see this is why i like xinhuan |
| 17:28.53 | sag_ich_nicht | if in doubt, use brute force! |
| 17:29.05 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 17:29.19 | Lopeppeppy | We don't have the "different corners" part mastered yet, IIRC. *grin* |
| 17:29.23 | Xinhuan | then as the next person spawns his ghost, you help him kill his in like 15 secs ;p |
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| 17:29.28 | Xinhuan | and he twiddles his thumb |
| 17:29.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: there are technically three "corners" |
| 17:29.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: the three corners and the middle |
| 17:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | ... *two corners |
| 17:29.48 | Xinhuan | basically, as long as the first person is pro |
| 17:29.49 | Cide | nubface |
| 17:29.50 | Xinhuan | you're fine |
| 17:29.52 | Lopeppeppy | True. Bloody minded people never do look where they're going. |
| 17:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah sorry Cide :( |
| 17:30.09 | Cide | damn right. |
| 17:30.12 | ScytheBlade1 | As long as YOU pay attention, it'll be fine |
| 17:30.21 | Lopeppeppy | I've fought him 3 times without getting the ghost... Now I'm just stupidly nervous. |
| 17:30.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Don't be |
| 17:32.28 | Lopeppeppy | Pressure on the officers to be better than the players. Let me tape someone's fingers together and see how THEY play. *snort* |
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| 17:32.54 | ScytheBlade1 | One of three things will happen. One, you'll do it 100% flawlessly, and they won't get even 1/3 of the way to the raid. Two, you'll still do it fine, and they'll all be dead about 10 yards from the raid. Three, you'll fail miserably and get yelled at. ;D |
| 17:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* True that. What's the worst that can happen? For once the healer wipes the raid! |
| 17:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | I got my Inner Demon down first try, so this is not beyond me. *concentrates* |
| 17:34.40 | zenzelezz | I was lucky I didn't have to worry about my demon \o/ |
| 17:34.52 | ScytheBlade1 | One thing that has helped me, is to not actually stand in the very far corner, up against the wall. They'll spawn in a square around you, and if you don't have room, they'll stack on top of each other. |
| 17:34.57 | Xinhuan | btw, do not attempt to logout, alt-f4, hearth or otherwise disappear from gorefiend's room when you get ghosted. the 4 ghosts still spawn :) |
| 17:35.32 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. And if you die before they spawn, they still spawn. |
| 17:35.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 17:35.48 | Lopeppeppy | So stay alive and kill them. |
| 17:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | That's actually been what killed us recently |
| 17:36.19 | ScytheBlade1 | We lost a healer to the debuff, then our cleanser to the debuff, then another healer to the debuff. Secondary cleanser wasn't on top of it, third healer died before she could even get out of the raid to Incernerate. |
| 17:36.44 | Lopeppeppy | That Incinerate does a lot of very fast damage. |
| 17:36.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 17:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why we have a "get the debuff? DON'T TRY TO WIN, JUST RUN!" policy |
| 17:37.24 | Lopeppeppy | Our paladin tank is our cleansebot for the fight, he does a good job. |
| 17:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Staying there for that one more second is one more second you could just die early. |
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| 17:38.01 | zenzelezz | we stay till we have 20-25 seconds left, to make sure no-one dies prematurely in a corner |
| 17:38.23 | Shirik | aye |
| 17:38.25 | Shirik | we do too |
| 17:38.26 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.45 | Shirik | we had constructs come up in the raid once |
| 17:38.51 | Shirik | but so what, we wiped, did it again no big deal |
| 17:39.00 | Lopeppeppy | We're told to run out at 20 seconds. |
| 17:39.06 | Shirik | my fault really, I wasn't ready with the dispel |
| 17:39.10 | ScytheBlade1 | If your healers are on top of it, that won't be too big of a problem. Sadly that still isn't easy on the healers |
| 17:39.24 | Lopeppeppy | And I've won 3 times just sitting and chatting with you guys, so the amoral support totally helps. Thanks. :P |
| 17:39.28 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: so are we, but we say 25 to people with poor connections or slow reaction time |
| 17:39.33 | Shirik | <3 Lopeppeppy |
| 17:39.37 | ScytheBlade1 | (Which is why I /always/ make a point to drop the Spirit Shield on a healer) |
| 17:39.48 | Shirik | really? |
| 17:39.51 | ScytheBlade1 | 12k shadow damage absorbed is a LOT less spell pushback on heals |
| 17:39.55 | Shirik | I think we're told not to use it :P |
| 17:40.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh it wasn't mentioned here |
| 17:40.08 | ScytheBlade1 | But I use it anyways |
| 17:40.09 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: amoral support? |
| 17:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It's an instant cast, 90s CD, 12k shadow shield |
| 17:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | So you can only use it once anyways |
| 17:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | I don't like to presume you're as pure as the driven snow, dear. :) |
| 17:40.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Kill my constructs, use the shield on a healer, get some awesome whispers. |
| 17:40.43 | Lopeppeppy | We're told if we get all of our construct down to shield a healer first. |
| 17:40.46 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: it's no secret I'm not... but some could be >.< |
| 17:41.15 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think I've found anyone purely moral and righteous that would care to hang out in a chat room.... is just me? *grin* |
| 17:41.52 | Shirik | honestly, I don't remember the last time pushback was a problem for me |
| 17:42.04 | Shirik | but maybe that's my 70% in holy concentration + concentration aura |
| 17:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | No, but it helps. I tend to drop it on a pally. |
| 17:42.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Heh yes that'd be it :P |
| 17:42.13 | ckknight | anyone know a good mage spec for lvl 70? |
| 17:42.42 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: mage boards should have a sticky |
| 17:42.44 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe I should look again at my spec and see what I can afford to swap around now that they don't need me murloc tanking. |
| 17:42.45 | ScytheBlade1 | What are you gunning for? |
| 17:43.04 | ckknight | it's for my coworker |
| 17:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | All I seem to run in raid is Concentration aura anyway. |
| 17:43.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah. What is he gunning for? ;) |
| 17:43.19 | Shirik | anyone here use php's mysqli? |
| 17:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t18441-mage_sweet_informational_thread/ <-- all the common specs |
| 17:44.20 | ckknight | k, thanks |
| 17:44.44 | foxlit | GM info is interesting |
| 17:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | "GM info"? |
| 17:44.57 | foxlit | the knowledge base, that is |
| 17:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 17:45.08 | foxlit | "We are not able to attack Kil'Jaeden after a failed attempt" |
| 17:45.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Wait, the GM knowledge base? o_0 |
| 17:45.17 | foxlit | Such a common issue, that! |
| 17:45.48 | foxlit | The click-through thing on the way to opening a GM ticket :) |
| 17:46.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, I can't find that entry |
| 17:46.28 | foxlit | "Patch 2.4 - Fury of the Sunwell", no keywords, EU servers |
| 17:46.31 | ScytheBlade1 | As a somewhat related footnote, the 2.4 known bugs list has a little hint about that encounter |
| 17:46.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Internal messages are displayed in the combat log when Sinister Reflections spawn during the Kil'jaeden encounter. |
| 17:47.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I can't find that on the US side |
| 17:47.21 | foxlit | "If you are running WoW on a system with the minimum specifications given on the burning crusade box, you may run into performance issues... |
| 17:47.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol shocking |
| 17:47.31 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:47.35 | foxlit | ... in certain locations of Quel'Dana (sic), Magister's Terrace" |
| 17:48.15 | Shirik | *hot issue* "My account is banned or locked, what do I do?" |
| 17:48.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:48.51 | foxlit | "Hunter's Mark not shown on Shield Orbs during the Kil'Jaeden encounter" |
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| 18:04.46 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc: something is still fucked with threat-2.0 properyl detecting other users if you login in combat |
| 18:04.50 | sag_ich_nicht | it doesn't happen with all users |
| 18:04.52 | sag_ich_nicht | but with some |
| 18:05.34 | Shirik | so here's an interesting best-practices question |
| 18:05.36 | zenzelezz | we've had some interesting "can anyone see the tank(s)?" episodes on Gurtogg, among others |
| 18:05.38 | nevcairiel | there shouldnt be a difference if in-combat or not |
| 18:05.46 | Shirik | it's a best-practice to check whether a query fails, and if so, roll back the transaction |
| 18:05.55 | Shirik | so should I check if the COMMIT query fails, and if so, roll back? |
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| 18:09.41 | cogwheel | what level can you go through the dp? |
| 18:10.07 | nevcairiel | 58 |
| 18:10.16 | ScytheBlade1 | You also need to check the return on BEGIN TRANSACTION |
| 18:10.40 | Shirik | that I did |
| 18:11.11 | zenzelezz | I would think you'd check most steps along the chain, but I never used transactions myself |
| 18:11.27 | Shirik | well I check every other query, the only one I'm currently not checking is COMMIT |
| 18:11.38 | Shirik | because like, my take is what happens if it fails |
| 18:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Should probably check that too |
| 18:11.43 | Shirik | either it gets auto-committed or rolled back |
| 18:11.48 | Shirik | both of which are acceptable |
| 18:11.52 | Shirik | but it shouldn't fail :/ |
| 18:11.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Uh, your data isn't saved and you don't know it? ;) |
| 18:12.04 | Shirik | I won't know anyway tbh :P |
| 18:12.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Out of memory, hard drive space, index problems |
| 18:12.05 | Shirik | it's a cron job |
| 18:14.28 | zenzelezz | I wonder if it's common to not know that MotW's resistance component doesn't stack with resistance auras |
| 18:14.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh crap. Eating was not a good idea |
| 18:14.52 | Shirik | I think most people forget that in general zenzelezz |
| 18:14.58 | Shirik | like pallies will put up shadow prot aura with a priest in raid |
| 18:15.16 | Shirik | even if they know it doesn't stack, it doesn't occur to them at the time |
| 18:15.27 | zenzelezz | might just be tanks that are commonly aware of it |
| 18:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | No, I've known it forever. I argue with people about it all the time though.... "Yes it stacks with PoSP! Use it!" |
| 18:17.55 | amro | http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/2/langref/Array.html#includeExamplesSummary <- how very helpful |
| 18:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | "Um.... no it doesn't, check your stats noob." |
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| 18:19.53 | Shirik | ok, now to see if I blow up our DKP database! |
| 18:19.55 | Shirik | Here goes nothing |
| 18:20.42 | Shirik | first to make a backup :P |
| 18:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah, I had hopes |
| 18:21.34 | Shirik | I might be stupid |
| 18:21.34 | Shirik | but I'm not nuts :P |
| 18:21.34 | Shirik | or maybe it's the other way around |
| 18:22.02 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, I found the box of summer shorts! ... the last place they should have been shoved, but yay, I found them! |
| 18:24.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, what to do |
| 18:24.19 | zenzelezz | there's something I just can't seem to figure about Omen... either I set it to not grow, and it shows nothing; or I set it to grow and it seems to grow from the middle and both up and down, not just up or down o_O |
| 18:24.26 | zenzelezz | I swear I had it right once |
| 18:24.36 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: use the "show test bars" and position is |
| 18:24.38 | ScytheBlade1 | *it |
| 18:24.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Then toggle it off/on |
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| 18:34.39 | Kaso | i have a folder that is hidden, but not hidden, its a magic folder |
| 18:36.02 | zenzelezz | I remember Magic Folders |
| 18:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | "First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is..." |
| 18:37.47 | Kaso | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/lntkaos/619875.png |
| 18:37.56 | Kaso | How do i make backup show properly! |
| 18:38.52 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: cheers, that did it :) Could have sworn I tried that, but obviously not |
| 18:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 18:39.57 | ScytheBlade1 | It was funky for me too |
| 18:45.50 | Shirik | I am so sick of seeing "Commands out of sync" |
| 18:46.16 | wereHamster | close your eyes... ? |
| 18:46.28 | Shirik | doesn't stop the problem from happening! |
| 18:46.38 | wereHamster | but you don't get to see it! |
| 18:46.49 | Gnarfoz | Kaso: attrib -h backup? |
| 18:47.14 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: judging by the explorer window, New Folder is hidden, yet it shows up |
| 18:47.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I'd really, really suggesting you only prepare statements that you'll use in order, and then execute them before you prepare another |
| 18:47.40 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: right, could try anyway ;> |
| 18:47.43 | Shirik | But I need the data from one statement to bind a second |
| 18:47.44 | Shirik | :/ |
| 18:47.48 | Kaso | Gnarfoz, "Not resetting system file - D:\backup" i guess that means ive somehow made it a system folder? |
| 18:47.58 | Gnarfoz | Kaso: then it's -SRH ^^ |
| 18:48.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Then prepare, execute, extract, and then prepare the new one |
| 18:48.14 | Gnarfoz | and: that explains why it doesn't show up, system folders are a separate setting |
| 18:48.31 | zenzelezz | but his System Volume Information shows, that's also a system folder IIRC |
| 18:48.34 | foxlit | Just uncheck all of the "I know better than you" settings in explorer ooptions :) |
| 18:48.35 | Shirik | but I can prepare the new one, that's not an issue |
| 18:48.38 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm 90% sure if you make your script execute in 100% linear order as far as MySQL is concerned, that'll disappear |
| 18:48.52 | zenzelezz | wait, my logic took a detour |
| 18:49.03 | Shirik | I need a new query for every row of the first set of results |
| 18:49.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Buffer the data in an array |
| 18:49.13 | Kaso | Gnarfoz, ah ha! thanks, ive never really learnt windows command line commands >.< |
| 18:49.52 | zenzelezz | deltree C: |
| 18:50.05 | Kaso | ohrly? |
| 18:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yes | deltree C:\ |
| 18:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | imo |
| 18:52.05 | zenzelezz | why is it that just as I'm about to leave the guild, they recruit three girls with cute voices? Now Vent is interesting again |
| 18:52.16 | Gnarfoz | deltree isn't even available on 2k, xp or vista, ScytheBlade1 ;) |
| 18:52.23 | ScytheBlade1 | sshhh |
| 18:52.51 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:52.52 | Shirik | yes it is |
| 18:52.57 | foxlit | ffs, zenze, we just recruited three girls with cute voices! |
| 18:53.08 | zenzelezz | I'll join you instead then! |
| 18:54.11 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: it isn't. |
| 18:54.38 | Gnarfoz | C:\>deltree |
| 18:54.38 | Gnarfoz | 'deltree' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. |
| 18:54.56 | Shirik | I have it on my copy of xp |
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| 18:55.18 | zenzelezz | it might be available, but not in a default installation (I think) |
| 18:55.20 | Shirik | so unless I did something strange |
| 18:55.20 | Gnarfoz | then you got it from somewhere else, like the reskit or whatever |
| 18:56.50 | Mikk | or his XP is installed on top of ME or something horrible |
| 18:57.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 18:57.41 | Shirik | I should totally try that |
| 18:57.46 | Shirik | I can do it now with my msdn subscription! |
| 18:58.46 | Shirik | you know, for all the things php has strange |
| 18:58.59 | Shirik | the "$array[] = foo" syntax is so awesome |
| 18:59.26 | zenzelezz | for inserting? |
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| 18:59.43 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:59.54 | zenzelezz | yeah, love that |
| 19:02.03 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1, your solution worked btw |
| 19:02.08 | Shirik | I just fetched everything ahead of time |
| 19:02.12 | Shirik | as much as I shouldn't have to do that |
| 19:03.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Told you ;) |
| 19:03.43 | Shirik | now to restore this backup because I did this a day early dododo |
| 19:03.47 | Shirik | testing on live data ftw |
| 19:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | PHP doesn't always play nicely with that stuff |
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| 19:10.43 | zenzelezz | I know it's old news, but I still thinks it's crazy how mobs like the Flames of Azzinoth can block; even if they only block ~54 damage |
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| 19:11.38 | Xinhuan | there's a forum post somewhere about a warlock tanking a flame of azzinoth |
| 19:12.00 | Xinhuan | he explains how its done, how he did it, as well as gear setup |
| 19:12.09 | Xinhuan | has about 18k hp |
| 19:12.13 | Gnarfoz | define "somewhere", this sounds interesting :D |
| 19:12.19 | Xinhuan | wow forums |
| 19:12.24 | Xinhuan | i don't remember where now |
| 19:12.28 | Mikk | the 2nd flame is easily offtankable by anything capable of a little bit of dps tbh |
| 19:12.30 | Xinhuan | hence its "somewhere" |
| 19:12.32 | zenzelezz | the only danger I could see would be crit chance |
| 19:12.53 | Mikk | true |
| 19:13.16 | Mikk | but stick a destro warlock there with shadow&flame and watch him laugh :P |
| 19:13.26 | Xinhuan | if i remember correctly, he used some resilience gear to reduce that, more hp anyway |
| 19:13.37 | Mikk | "lol, immune" |
| 19:14.03 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly sure if nether protection procced at any point, the mob would just target someone else |
| 19:14.12 | Xinhuan | to melee |
| 19:14.18 | Mikk | you have a good point there |
| 19:14.39 | Mikk | (damn! i was clever!) |
| 19:14.54 | Mikk | actually i'm not entirely certain that's the case |
| 19:14.55 | Xinhuan | i know this because my guild's lock wiped us twice this week on illidan when he was tanking demon phase and it procced |
| 19:14.59 | Xinhuan | and then some ROGUE got aggro |
| 19:15.08 | Mikk | oh |
| 19:15.21 | Xinhuan | and we're like ?_? how the hell |
| 19:15.35 | AbsoRayne | Mikk: Thanks for reminding me I need to finish farming my FR for tonight -_- |
| 19:17.27 | AbsoRayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_041808_004156.jpg Teehee Illymang |
| 19:17.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Poke him imo |
| 19:18.20 | AbsoRayne | I did, with my sword |
| 19:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Take a screenshot of that |
| 19:19.02 | AbsoRayne | I will tonight |
| 19:19.09 | mikma | AbsoRayne: oh wait, i'll give you a good SS soon |
| 19:19.22 | mikma | gotta upload it to intarwebs first from my pc |
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| 19:20.31 | Shirik | any cron geniuses around? Is this all I have to do to get a script to execute every monday? 0 3 * * 1 /usr/bin/php -f /var/www/localhost/dodecline.php |
| 19:21.17 | sag_ich_nicht | Arrowmaster: care to add Vexallus to the blacklist in topscorefu? |
| 19:21.40 | mikma | AbsoRayne: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041708_214949.jpg |
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| 19:23.07 | Gnarfoz | mikma: name those totem bars, now! |
| 19:23.46 | mikma | Gnarfoz: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/PoleVault/ |
| 19:23.57 | Gnarfoz | sweet |
| 19:24.30 | Fisker- | owned mikma |
| 19:24.35 | mikma | Gnarfoz: http://wow.reaktio.net/polevault5.png <- demonstration of "all" features :P |
| 19:24.39 | mikma | Fisker-: you know what sucks at that point? |
| 19:25.00 | mikma | illidan's corpse disappeared and we didn't get loot |
| 19:25.04 | mikma | and, he didn't respawn. |
| 19:25.17 | mikma | gm's are now investigating are we entitled to the loot or not |
| 19:25.22 | Polarina | mikma: Contact a game master. |
| 19:25.29 | Gnarfoz | oO it takes corpses with epic items in them 30min to despawn, normally |
| 19:25.38 | kd3 | ya, but illidan's broken |
| 19:25.41 | mikma | it's a known bug :O |
| 19:25.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Gnarfoz: if Illidan dies with no players up, he simply despawns |
| 19:25.49 | Gnarfoz | feh |
| 19:25.54 | Gnarfoz | blizz ftw ;D |
| 19:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | It's not so much a bug as details as to how loot/death mechanics work |
| 19:26.16 | Fisker- | maiev just got the tag |
| 19:26.29 | Fisker- | because you all failed miserably |
| 19:28.05 | Xinhuan | <ScytheBlade1> Gnarfoz: if Illidan dies with no players up, he simply despawns |
| 19:28.11 | Xinhuan | how can he die with no players up ;p |
| 19:28.15 | Gnarfoz | DoTs |
| 19:28.18 | Xinhuan | he despawns the moment no players are up |
| 19:28.20 | mikma | well. |
| 19:28.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Maiev is up |
| 19:28.26 | Xinhuan | so the presence/absence of Dots is irrelevant |
| 19:28.27 | ScytheBlade1 | NPC vs. NPC |
| 19:28.32 | mikma | this is what happened: we had 1 player up when he reached 1% |
| 19:28.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Raid dies, Maiev continues killing Illidan |
| 19:28.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Illidan dies |
| 19:28.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Illidan despawns |
| 19:28.51 | Xinhuan | the presence/absence of maiev should be irrelevant ~_~ |
| 19:28.51 | mikma | there still was his minions up which managed to kill the last player and illidan died at the same time |
| 19:29.02 | Xinhuan | as illidan resets properly if the raid wipes with maiev alive |
| 19:29.24 | Xinhuan | i.e say you wipe at 15% |
| 19:30.02 | Stanzilla | we had that...maiev had the "killing blow" and our raid members were busy with the adds. then illidan died and the adds killed the last few members |
| 19:30.09 | Stanzilla | => despawn => loot via GM |
| 19:30.23 | mikma | Stanzilla: you got the loot? |
| 19:30.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 19:30.32 | mikma | woot, cool! |
| 19:30.40 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:30.42 | mikma | gm's have been investigating it now for 1,5 days |
| 19:30.43 | Stanzilla | it was our first kill and we were like WTF NO LOOT |
| 19:30.57 | Stanzilla | took 3 days here |
| 19:30.58 | Xinhuan | 1.5 days? the average is more like 5 days hehe |
| 19:31.27 | Xinhuan | you'll probably get loot, if illidan didn't respawn, it means his death is registered with the raid instance ID |
| 19:31.28 | mikma | hmm ok, i lied. it's more than 1,5 days :P |
| 19:31.38 | mikma | WoWScrnShot_041708_214949.jpg -> now |
| 19:31.45 | Xinhuan | and doing a soft 30 min reset shouldn't respawn him |
| 19:32.11 | Polarina | Would anyone here be so kind to code review my changes to Relegation? |
| 19:32.52 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041408_194047.jpg legendaryyyyh ;) |
| 19:33.19 | mikma | Gnarfoz: btw the totembars are not movable, yet, and they are docked to the PossessionBar :P |
| 19:34.17 | Gnarfoz | I'm just level 14, anyway ;D |
| 19:34.36 | mikma | Gnarfoz: should still work |
| 19:34.48 | mikma | Gnarfoz: but when you learn new totems, do a /rl so it will update the bars :P |
| 19:34.49 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm just saying, no need for it, yet |
| 19:34.59 | Gnarfoz | I'm using autobar for my totems right now ;> |
| 19:35.05 | Gnarfoz | abused the "druid" bar for it |
| 19:35.25 | Gnarfoz | too bad toadkiller isn't around anymore and no one picked AB up ;\ |
| 19:35.26 | mikma | i got annoyed by FloTotemBar after 2.4 |
| 19:35.46 | mikma | the totem timers were all wrong with it so i remade it ^^ |
| 19:36.43 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: urm...you should read the AB forum thread |
| 19:37.06 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: what about it? |
| 19:37.19 | Stanzilla | he releases new versions a few times/week |
| 19:37.43 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=9138.msg206506#msg206506 < there |
| 19:38.06 | mikma | btw, this should be blocked: http://wow.reaktio.net/WoWScrnShot_041308_041419.jpg |
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| 19:38.10 | mikma | (look at the chat) |
| 19:38.47 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: huh, if it's still him, why doesn't he update on the wowace svn anymore? :\ |
| 19:38.58 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 19:39.22 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: wowace is beta for him. what he releases are alphas :) |
| 19:39.47 | Gnarfoz | right. if *that* is beta, then I'm not sure I even want to look at the alpha ;D |
| 19:40.03 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 19:48.37 | Crysli | Poor Polarina |
| 19:48.37 | zenzelezz | O_o |
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| 19:48.55 | zenzelezz | we don't just hand out attention, even peppy and Cairenn have to work for it |
| 19:49.20 | Polarina | zenzelezz: I'll keep that in mind. |
| 19:50.41 | zenzelezz | the obvious question would be what "it" is in that sentence :-o |
| 19:51.05 | Lopeppeppy | Aww. Wouldn't you like to know. |
| 19:51.52 | Polarina | Well, if anyone wants to take a look, I can DCC you the zip file. |
| 19:52.05 | Crysli | http://wowi.pastey.net/86120 - this is supposed to restock Rune of Portals so it'll be six at most. But for some reason it just buys six. |
| 19:52.26 | Crysli | Anyone got a clue why it's not working properly? |
| 19:52.58 | Xinhuan | is that some macro |
| 19:53.09 | Xinhuan | you're trying to squeeze in 255 chars? |
| 19:53.11 | zenzelezz | badly named globals |
| 19:53.18 | foxlit | "amount = 6-GetItemCount(item)amount " |
| 19:53.23 | foxlit | what? |
| 19:53.39 | Crysli | Xinhuan: No. |
| 19:53.46 | Crysli | foxlit: What? |
| 19:53.47 | Xinhuan | line 5 looks wrong |
| 19:54.03 | foxlit | shouldn't even compile, let alone work properly |
| 19:54.27 | Xinhuan | oh it will compile foxlit |
| 19:54.40 | Xinhuan | amount is just brought forward to the next line |
| 19:54.51 | Xinhuan | on the left side of the assignment |
| 19:55.04 | Xinhuan | since white space is irrelevant |
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| 19:56.29 | Xinhuan | maybe it won't, missing comma ;p |
| 19:56.39 | Shirik | heh |
| 19:56.42 | Shirik | that sounds like our IEEE page |
| 19:57.07 | Crysli | So if I put amount on a new line it'll work? |
| 19:57.16 | Xinhuan | just remove the last word |
| 19:57.19 | Crysli | Ah |
| 19:57.24 | Crysli | I thought it looked weird there |
| 19:58.11 | foxlit | What's up with all the division going on? |
| 19:58.19 | Shirik | yay it's official, we got 4th place http://ewh.ieee.org/reg/3/secon/08/students.html |
| 19:58.47 | Fisker- | looks like shit |
| 19:58.54 | Fisker- | what is it? |
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| 19:59.38 | Crysli | foxlit: It's been a while since I last worked on this, but iirc it's got something to dowith stacks |
| 19:59.55 | foxlit | Makes no sense to me |
| 20:00.15 | foxlit | Especially if you're working with Rune of Portals |
| 20:01.38 | Crysli | Why is Rune of Portals different than, say, arrows? |
| 20:01.54 | Xinhuan | arrows are sold in stacks of 250 per bunch |
| 20:02.00 | Xinhuan | you can't buy "10 arrows" |
| 20:02.09 | Xinhuan | you either buy 0, or 250 |
| 20:02.20 | Xinhuan | to buy 500, you buy 250 twice |
| 20:02.23 | Xinhuan | you can't "buy 500" |
| 20:02.40 | Xinhuan | runes of portals is sold in singles |
| 20:02.51 | Xinhuan | so you can specify whether you want to buy 1 or 20, or 6, etc |
| 20:03.08 | Polarina | Xinhuan: Arrows are sold in batches of 200. |
| 20:03.15 | Xinhuan | well yeah i'm not a hunter |
| 20:03.17 | Xinhuan | 200 then ;p |
| 20:03.24 | Crysli | It's set to work with all items, at least that's how it's supposed to work |
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| 20:03.47 | Crysli | Would be sucky if I suddenly had to switch the item and it came in stacks |
| 20:04.26 | Xinhuan | anyhow, you're complicating it, just get the addon called FreeRefills ;p |
| 20:04.53 | Crysli | No wai |
| 20:04.59 | Crysli | I'm trying to learn how to make addons here |
| 20:05.04 | Xinhuan | oh :( |
| 20:05.25 | Xinhuan | you haven't quite said what's wrong with your code anyway |
| 20:06.00 | Xinhuan | error message? buying wrong amounts? makes oink noises? |
| 20:06.30 | Crysli | I said right after I posted the link that it buys 6 Rune of Portals instead of up to 6 |
| 20:06.48 | Lopeppeppy | OOINK! |
| 20:07.00 | Xinhuan | then its probably something to do with the math |
| 20:07.12 | Xinhuan | you are advised to print out the values of the numbers inside the loop |
| 20:07.19 | Xinhuan | using ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
| 20:09.03 | Crysli | How would I go about doing that? |
| 20:09.09 | Crysli | (Yes, I'm very new to this) |
| 20:09.20 | Xinhuan | for example, you want to know the value of the variable "amount" |
| 20:09.26 | Xinhuan | ChatFrame1:AddMessage(amount) |
| 20:09.31 | Xinhuan | would print that value to your chat |
| 20:09.40 | Xinhuan | so just insert that line in the appropriate place in the code |
| 20:09.46 | Xinhuan | where you want to see what that value is |
| 20:10.22 | Xinhuan | you will be using this method to debug your addons most of the time, printing out the values |
| 20:10.54 | Crysli | Ah, it's that easy. Alright, I'll try that ^^ |
| 20:11.04 | Kaso | i use devtool's print function to debug most of the time |
| 20:11.11 | Crysli | Well, once I pull myself together and subscribe again. |
| 20:11.13 | Kaso | you can throw anything to that and it prints it out nice |
| 20:11.22 | Xinhuan | now now, lets not introduce new tools to him just yet |
| 20:11.29 | Xinhuan | learn the basics first |
| 20:12.25 | Crysli | Heh. The first addon I made was one that hides an action bar when casting |
| 20:12.45 | Xinhuan | mainly, the objective here, is to make sure that the values of the variables used in your loop is *correct* |
| 20:12.55 | Xinhuan | that's assuming you are very certain the math is correct |
| 20:13.11 | Shirik | what does "happy 420" mean? |
| 20:13.45 | Crysli | 'Xinhuan: Thanks a bunch for helping me out :) |
| 20:14.04 | Corrodias | "420" refers to marijuana. i don't remember why. april 20th is sometimes considered a day of celebration for that, although of course there's little overt celebration |
| 20:14.08 | kd3 | Shirik, it means "go smoke some pot" |
| 20:14.10 | Xinhuan | ^_^ |
| 20:14.17 | Shirik | o_O |
| 20:14.22 | Shirik | that's odd |
| 20:14.34 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29 |
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| 20:18.29 | Shirik | snopes has a page on it |
| 20:18.31 | Shirik | was rather interesting |
| 20:18.37 | Shirik | http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.asp |
| 20:20.27 | Antiarc | Guys, the addon pirates are going to put us all out of business :( |
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| 20:21.23 | MoonWolf__ | Antiarc, call the fbi |
| 20:22.32 | zenzelezz | nah, call the bureau of Add-ons, Threatmeters and Firearms |
| 20:22.41 | malreth | addon pirates? |
| 20:23.06 | MoonWolf__ | make addon website, take every single popular addon put it up there, don't ask or tell anyone. |
| 20:23.24 | Antiarc | malreth: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5974050378&sid=1 |
| 20:23.28 | Krolmor | howdy |
| 20:23.37 | Crysli | Yarr |
| 20:23.38 | Corrodias | as i understand, authors dislike that because then people bug them about bugs in old versions |
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| 20:23.45 | Corrodias | when the site hosts don't update regularly |
| 20:23.47 | MoonWolf__ | and its plain rude |
| 20:23.55 | Antiarc | I was really more being facetious |
| 20:23.58 | Krolmor | is there a way to make a /who script NOT show anything on the chat frame? It keeps showsing "x players found", and sometimes lists a couple |
| 20:23.59 | MoonWolf__ | not to mention copyright violation |
| 20:24.01 | Antiarc | Re: that thread I linked |
| 20:24.17 | MoonWolf__ | although that is of minor concern if you really can't enforce it |
| 20:24.21 | Krolmor | and by showsing I mean showing... |
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| 20:24.42 | Kaso | MoonWolf__, except all the retards who licence under GPL and dont understand what it means, i remeber all the drama when wowace was scraped, it was hillzarious |
| 20:25.07 | MoonWolf | if you publish under gpl you did it to yourself |
| 20:25.09 | Corrodias | okay, so what's carbonite quest? |
| 20:25.24 | MoonWolf | although the other objections still stand. |
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| 20:25.29 | Antiarc | AFAIK it's a pay-for version of TourGuide+Lightheaded+TomTom |
| 20:26.32 | Corrodias | looks like you're right |
| 20:26.47 | Crysli | Hahaha |
| 20:27.00 | Crysli | http://thepiratebootybay.com/ that is just beautiful |
| 20:27.03 | wereHamster | wtf.. I googled 'carboniteaddon' and the google results indecated that I already visited their homepage. But I can't remember _ever_ going there, nor does their webpage look familiar to me... |
| 20:27.23 | Antiarc | :D |
| 20:27.26 | Corrodias | lol |
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| 20:29.18 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: your search buttons are broken |
| 20:29.31 | Antiarc | I know >_> |
| 20:30.01 | nevcairiel | but the logo is great |
| 20:30.03 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 20:30.14 | Antiarc | Okay, now they work |
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| 20:31.15 | ralfWORK | wish I could make money fasteerrr! |
| 20:31.42 | Crysli | Meh, bad search |
| 20:32.24 | Crysli | You have to use all lower case in order for it to work |
| 20:32.27 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 20:32.29 | Antiarc | Lemme fix that! |
| 20:33.00 | Antiarc | kk, fixed! |
| 20:35.25 | Crysli | Goood boy. |
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| 20:36.19 | Crysli | What did you change? |
| 20:36.25 | Crysli | The source code looks the same to me |
| 20:36.27 | Antiarc | just trim and downcase it :P |
| 20:36.32 | Antiarc | It's a PHP file |
| 20:36.36 | Crysli | Ah |
| 20:36.42 | Crysli | That explains it |
| 20:36.46 | Antiarc | The "search" happens via PHP, not Javascript :P |
| 20:37.30 | Crysli | Yeah, Javascript would be the quick and dirty way of doing it |
| 20:38.31 | Corrodias | FILTHY GRIMY WAY |
| 20:38.35 | Corrodias | actually, i don't mind |
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| 20:42.38 | Corrodias | filthy hobbitses |
| 20:42.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: that is a thing of BEAUTY |
| 20:43.12 | Kaso | Anyone know much about luasocket ? its erroring when i try to request with a proxy : http://pastey.net/86121 |
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| 20:46.56 | Antiarc | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/TheStinkeywoz/1208653419024.jpg |
| 20:47.47 | dylanm | Antiarc are you behind in your browsing of funny images |
| 20:47.57 | Antiarc | I've been busy. |
| 20:48.27 | dylanm | Antiarc: Oh hey do you happen to remember the link I gave you a while ago of the alternate Threat-2.0 frontend? |
| 20:48.34 | Antiarc | MyThreat? |
| 20:48.37 | dylanm | Because I... do not. |
| 20:48.51 | dylanm | Oh, no. This was some random guild's one that was on Filefront and nowhere else. |
| 20:49.20 | dylanm | Not a big deal. |
| 20:49.57 | Xinhuan | Compilations is spelt incorrectly Antiarc ;p |
| 20:50.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: it hit me randomly. Another way you could have worked it, was to establish additional connections to the server, one per |
| 20:50.50 | Antiarc | doh |
| 20:50.54 | Antiarc | Go go IRC QA! |
| 20:51.50 | Xinhuan | that's a fast fix :P |
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| 20:52.34 | Xinhuan | i typed in alar in the search box |
| 20:52.42 | Xinhuan | and it redirected me to files-a page |
| 20:52.43 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 20:52.51 | Xinhuan | i almost giggled |
| 20:53.05 | dylanm | That's the incredible AntiarcRank engine at work. |
| 20:53.55 | zenzelezz | MT taking Shear and dying, says he "didn't have rage for Shield Block" o_O |
| 20:54.33 | Xinhuan | Shear is intervene-able btw ;p |
| 20:54.44 | Xinhuan | our FR-offtank always intervenes it for shit and giggles |
| 20:54.54 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: I thought about that |
| 20:54.58 | Shirik | but didn't want to get involved witht hat |
| 20:54.59 | zenzelezz | I've had enough stories about that leading to the offtank dying to not do it |
| 20:55.10 | Xinhuan | the offtank dying doesn't matter after phase 2 |
| 20:55.12 | Shirik | actually now that I think about it, I couldn't do it because it needed to be a transaction |
| 20:55.17 | zenzelezz | Xinhuan: this was phase 1 |
| 20:55.20 | Xinhuan | oh lol |
| 20:55.28 | zenzelezz | if it was after 2, I would agree with yuo :) |
| 20:55.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ah |
| 20:57.54 | kd3 | lmao. thepiratebootybay is awesome. |
| 20:58.00 | kd3 | must figure out how to add it to the patch day sticky |
| 20:59.50 | Shirik | lmao @ "how I download addon" |
| 21:01.28 | Crysli | Well, I should probably go to bed |
| 21:02.01 | Crysli | Got school tomorrow. Thanks for making thepiratebootybay! |
| 21:03.43 | Fisker- | stop me! |
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| 21:09.20 | zenzelezz | someone seems to think EU-Silvermoon is an RP realm o_O http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3641905881&sid=1 |
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| 21:19.45 | zenzelezz | for some reason half of what's said in my guild/raid reminds me of Anarchy Online in some way |
| 21:19.52 | zenzelezz | such a flawed but fun game |
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| 21:33.41 | zenzelezz | I wonder how Illidan's feet turned into hooves |
| 21:35.12 | Kaso | same way he grew horns? |
| 21:35.35 | zenzelezz | that's weird, but not in the same way |
| 21:35.38 | zenzelezz | he already had feet |
| 21:36.04 | Kaso | you mean the gradual process of changing from a foot to a horn |
| 21:37.11 | zenzelezz | that would be a very interesting tale |
| 21:37.17 | zenzelezz | but I'm talking foot to hoof |
| 21:37.20 | End | foothorns? |
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| 21:37.27 | Kaso | haha |
| 21:37.28 | Kaso | woops |
| 21:38.15 | zenzelezz | the intermediate stages of the transformation must have been quite cumbersome and uncomfortable... perhaps explaining why he grew wings |
| 21:39.51 | zenzelezz | I see this question was too much for Kaso |
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| 21:43.48 | Kaso | Anyone know much about luasocket? |
| 21:44.02 | Kaso | i seem to be killing it by attempting to request with a http proxy; http://pastey.net/86121 |
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| 21:53.03 | Shirik | wow |
| 21:53.12 | Shirik | 6x hearts of darkness someone wants to buy for 2400g |
| 21:53.18 | Shirik | are they really that much? |
| 21:54.07 | zenzelezz | what do you need them for? |
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| 21:54.26 | nevcairiel | 400 per heart is a normal price, yes |
| 21:57.21 | Matrix110| | lol? |
| 21:57.22 | Matrix110| | no |
| 21:57.26 | Matrix110| | 160g here:P |
| 21:57.42 | Matrix110| | depends on the amount of BT clearing guilds you got I guess |
| 21:58.17 | Drundia | no, depends on how dedicated gold farmers are |
| 21:59.10 | Matrix110| | pre 2.4 i couldnt even sell them for 100g |
| 21:59.16 | Matrix110| | so Iam glad people buy em now :D |
| 21:59.21 | Matrix110| | we had like 400? of them |
| 22:00.11 | Drundia | strange |
| 22:05.53 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I don't |
| 22:05.57 | Shirik | Just someone wanted to buy them so |
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| 22:18.41 | Cairenn|afk | woot, first bbq of the summer, see you guys later |
| 22:18.52 | JoshBorke | bb |
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| 23:01.31 | Shirik | oops |
| 23:02.45 | batrick | morning shirik |
| 23:02.50 | Shirik | morning |
| 23:02.52 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:02.56 | Shirik | it's 7 pm |
| 23:04.11 | Drundia | ~ugt |
| 23:04.11 | purl | i heard ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 23:04.20 | Shirik | nobody joined! |
| 23:04.30 | Drundia | but someone woke up! |
| 23:04.36 | batrick | morning is relative =) |
| 23:04.46 | batrick | it's actually 5:00 pm for me heh |
| 23:06.30 | Antiarc | ~uat |
| 23:06.31 | purl | hmm... uat is Universal Antiarc Time. Created in #wowace, it is the measure of the One True Time. All other times are imposters and will be shot on sight, especially so-called "Universal" Fisker Time, which is just a sorry excuse for supposed "time" and will instead just be laughed at. |
| 23:06.39 | batrick | wuwuwuwu 420 yaya! |
| 23:06.44 | batrick | happy 420 all |
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| 23:10.49 | Drundia | 420 what? |
| 23:11.28 | Drundia | ~uft |
| 23:11.28 | purl | Universal Fisker Time, it's whatever time he says, anyone else will be shot on sight, even if it's the same time as Fisker's time. |
| 23:11.46 | batrick | !g 420 |
| 23:11.47 | batbot | batrick: 420 (cannabis culture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_(cannabis_culture)> |
| 23:12.10 | batrick | don't forget to bring a towel |
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| 23:13.56 | Kaso | holy crap i need a third screen >.< |
| 23:14.26 | Nechckn | That is hard core |
| 23:14.44 | Kaso | two isnt enough for a normal human |
| 23:14.58 | Kaso | I wonder how cheap i can find a pcie graphics card |
| 23:22.03 | Kirov | $20 |
| 23:22.15 | AnduinLothar | really? |
| 23:22.23 | Kirov | (note, you didn't specify "working") |
| 23:22.28 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 23:22.43 | Kirov | really, around $80 I think is the cheapest |
| 23:22.58 | sag_ich_nicht | WTB Addon that shows me the theoretical attack table against a mob OR of a mob against me |
| 23:23.13 | sag_ich_nicht | so i can calc how much "wasted" shieldblock i have |
| 23:23.28 | AnduinLothar | it's all wasted above 102.7% avoidance |
| 23:23.42 | foxlit | Dunno |
| 23:23.58 | foxlit | Assuming you only want the port |
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| 23:24.32 | foxlit | ~37$ is the cheapest I canf ind |
| 23:24.33 | purl | okay, foxlit |
| 23:24.36 | AnduinLothar | http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=GF6600-512MTV-P&cat=VCD&cpc=VCDbsc |
| 23:24.43 | foxlit | purl, forget 37$ |
| 23:24.43 | purl | i didn't have anything called '37$' to forget, foxlit |
| 23:24.46 | AnduinLothar | GeForce 6600 512MB DDR2 PCI Express VCD w/DVI TV-out $40 |
| 23:25.19 | Kirov | actually http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141035 |
| 23:25.23 | Kirov | $20 |
| 23:25.34 | AnduinLothar | I'm tempted to get that to drive my 2nd and maybe 3rd monitors so my $400 x1900 wont overheat as much |
| 23:25.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [01:23] <+AnduinLothar> it's all wasted above 102.7% avoidance <--you mean 102.4% rite |
| 23:25.44 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
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| 23:26.35 | foxlit | for 2$ more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127273R |
| 23:27.19 | AnduinLothar | are those all 2 slots tall? |
| 23:28.17 | AnduinLothar | looks like it |
| 23:28.20 | AnduinLothar | or 1.5 |
| 23:28.26 | AnduinLothar | wont fit in my top slot |
| 23:28.39 | foxlit | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141068R |
| 23:33.26 | AnduinLothar | ok, now the real challenge. find me a cheep mac pcie card |
| 23:36.00 | Shirik | I have a better idea |
| 23:36.04 | Shirik | find a real computer :P |
| 23:36.10 | Kirov | lol |
| 23:36.55 | AnduinLothar | i have a better idea, why don't you shut the fuck up. |
| 23:36.59 | Shirik | :< |
| 23:37.45 | foxlit | [tangential: sorting rows in a JTable is a pain pre SE 6.0... which still isn't out for macs :(] |
| 23:38.06 | AnduinLothar | there's a 6.0 for macs but you can't make it system default |
| 23:38.16 | foxlit | [you can make it system default] |
| 23:38.31 | foxlit | Java Preferences.app |
| 23:38.45 | AnduinLothar | that was retired with 5.0 wasn't it? |
| 23:38.57 | foxlit | No, it's still around |
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| 23:39.49 | AnduinLothar | you on 1.5? |
| 23:40.05 | foxlit | They don't replace each other, but I'm writing stuff against 1.5 just now |
| 23:40.31 | AnduinLothar | i mean mac os 10.5 |
| 23:40.40 | foxlit | yes |
| 23:40.55 | AnduinLothar | i dont seem to have a Java Preferences.app |
| 23:41.09 | foxlit | spotlight it? |
| 23:41.20 | AnduinLothar | not on my computer |
| 23:41.39 | foxlit | Applications/Utilities/Java/ |
| 23:41.49 | AnduinLothar | not there |
| 23:42.18 | foxlit | Interesting :) |
| 23:43.00 | AnduinLothar | think i can grab it from the install disk or would i have to like update my os |
| 23:43.33 | foxlit | I don't remember ever installing it, so I can't really help you there |
| 23:43.41 | foxlit | Could be part of the developer tools |
| 23:43.49 | AnduinLothar | have that installed.. |
| 23:46.07 | leethal | internet explorer 6: unable to parse this: {foo: "bar", baz: "maz",}. You have to do {foo: "bar", baz: "maz"}, without that last comma. Weird |
| 23:46.12 | leethal | (javascript) |
| 23:46.15 | leethal | </whine> |
| 23:47.09 | AnduinLothar | ie6 is the devil |
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| 23:56.43 | WobWork | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/TheStinkeywoz/1208653419024.jpg |
| 23:57.27 | Gnarfoz | bleh @ WWS ;\ |
