| 00:00.08 | Shirik | we do have a lot of alts on saturday, etc. |
| 00:00.11 | Shirik | just that's one of our days off that everyone's pretty much on |
| 00:00.14 | Shirik | so we tend to do it then |
| 00:00.20 | Syzgyn | it makes sense |
| 00:01.16 | Shirik | we didn't actually do kara this last saturday |
| 00:01.17 | Shirik | no tanks on |
| 00:01.23 | Shirik | we had about 25 people in the group to go |
| 00:01.25 | Shirik | and not a single tank |
| 00:01.45 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 00:01.57 | Guillotine | moonkin tank it! |
| 00:02.03 | Syzgyn | ^^ |
| 00:02.40 | Syzgyn | bah, you're farther than my guild |
| 00:02.44 | Syzgyn | boooo horde |
| 00:03.23 | Shirik | horde ftw |
| 00:03.28 | Shirik | how do you know how far we are o.o |
| 00:03.54 | Syzgyn | armory for the guild, wowjutsu |
| 00:04.06 | Syzgyn | er, I mean |
| 00:04.11 | Shirik | [#] 20:03:26 [W From] <Shirik>: hai ther. can i hav gold plx?!?!??! |
| 00:04.11 | Syzgyn | I'm stalking you! Mwahahahaha |
| 00:04.43 | Dolby | any one else on the new firefox 3? trying going to wowui? http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefox3fz5.jpg |
| 00:04.53 | Guillotine | I just knew how far you were by seeing BT on the schedule :P |
| 00:05.08 | ckknight | Dolby: it's true |
| 00:05.33 | Syzgyn | WoWI = spam and malware |
| 00:05.35 | Syzgyn | duh |
| 00:05.45 | clad|sleep | ? |
| 00:05.50 | Dolby | wowi? |
| 00:05.51 | clad|sleep | or rather |
| 00:05.53 | Cairenn | wowi? |
| 00:05.53 | clad|sleep | dot dot dot? |
| 00:05.54 | Syzgyn | nothing to see here! move along |
| 00:05.57 | clad|sleep | lol |
| 00:06.11 | Shirik | Syzgyn: wowui not wowi :P |
| 00:06.17 | Syzgyn | you knew what I meant |
| 00:06.30 | Cairenn | what reason does it give Dolby? |
| 00:06.36 | Syzgyn | oh |
| 00:06.36 | Syzgyn | hah |
| 00:06.43 | Syzgyn | I didnt know what I meant |
| 00:06.52 | Guillotine | hahaha, thats hilarious |
| 00:06.59 | Guillotine | for some reason my firefox 3 is completely messed up :( |
| 00:07.04 | Cairenn | that's terrifying |
| 00:07.06 | Guillotine | I think some of my extensions completely own it |
| 00:07.11 | Dolby | http://www.stopbadware.org/reports/container?source=Firefox&version=3.0b5&reportname=http://wowui.incgamers.com/ |
| 00:07.33 | Shirik | "Google has found that some portion of incgamers.com/ contains or links to badware or otherwise violates Google's software guidelines." |
| 00:07.34 | Shirik | huh. |
| 00:07.49 | Corrodias | perhaps their in-the-past trojan issues |
| 00:07.58 | Shirik | yup: http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.incgamers.com/ |
| 00:07.59 | Corrodias | although i must say i'm not excited about using it, considering those |
| 00:08.06 | Shirik | When trying to take a google link to incgmaers |
| 00:09.19 | Cairenn | Dolby: that's the page you get taken to when you click on the "Why was this site blocked?" button from your first screenshot? |
| 00:09.28 | Dolby | yes |
| 00:09.59 | Cairenn | wow, Shirik, you're right! |
| 00:10.11 | Dolby | this must be recent because I've went to their site a couple days ago with firefox 3 |
| 00:10.13 | Cairenn | just doing a google on the site |
| 00:10.55 | Guillotine | wow, incgamers was owned o.O |
| 00:11.11 | Cairenn | ummmm |
| 00:11.12 | Shirik | stopbadware has them marked as yellow, meaning some of their partners have reported badware but direct testing has not shown anything |
| 00:13.10 | Cairenn | I've got it coming up white now when I go to the link |
| 00:13.18 | Cairenn | "google has removed the warning for this site" |
| 00:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | That was fast |
| 00:13.37 | Guillotine | wow |
| 00:13.51 | Cairenn | what about you guys? |
| 00:13.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 00:13.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: that's www. |
| 00:14.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: not wowui. |
| 00:14.12 | Cairenn | oh |
| 00:14.15 | ScytheBlade1 | wowui. is still bad |
| 00:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah it messed with me too |
| 00:14.33 | Guillotine | Cair: did you watch the video I linked you earlier? |
| 00:14.52 | Guillotine | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4 |
| 00:15.21 | Cairenn | ah, started to, got distracted with something else |
| 00:16.12 | Cairenn | different note - someone that isn't me should maybe post a warning on the forums about that? |
| 00:19.15 | Corrodias | wish i had some of that |
| 00:19.24 | Corrodias | my breakfast was hummus on crackers -- good, but not meat |
| 00:19.51 | Syzgyn | Meat is indeed the superior food group! |
| 00:20.03 | Guillotine | well, tied for the best |
| 00:20.09 | Guillotine | sugar imo |
| 00:20.22 | Corrodias | sugar is a health risk. i recommend against it. |
| 00:20.31 | Syzgyn | no, sugar isn't its own food group, therefore meat wins |
| 00:20.36 | Guillotine | sure it is |
| 00:20.47 | Corrodias | porn is the most important food group |
| 00:21.02 | Syzgyn | Meat > porn |
| 00:21.12 | Guillotine | Wel, it is just as much as meat is |
| 00:21.15 | Guillotine | http://web.mit.edu/athletics/sportsmedicine/Food%20Pyramid.JPG |
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| 00:22.02 | Syzgyn | fats oils and sweets vs meat, meat, meat, beans, almost meat, and nuts |
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| 00:22.04 | Syzgyn | meat wins |
| 00:22.36 | ckknight | fuck the food pyramid |
| 00:22.38 | Guillotine | what about sugary meat? |
| 00:22.41 | Seerah | Guillotine: <3 that video |
| 00:22.49 | ckknight | it's totally bullshit |
| 00:22.51 | Seerah | (the cat one) |
| 00:22.53 | Guillotine | Corporal cuddling ftw? |
| 00:23.01 | Seerah | and cat cuddling |
| 00:23.03 | ckknight | and manipulated by corporate interests, in particular, the dairy market |
| 00:23.06 | Seerah | *yodeling |
| 00:23.26 | Seerah | I think even ck would get a kick out of it :P |
| 00:25.02 | Syzgyn | ckk: are you one of those damn dirty hippies? |
| 00:25.11 | ckknight | ...no |
| 00:25.13 | Syzgyn | hehe |
| 00:25.23 | ckknight | I'm merely a skeptic and a libertarian |
| 00:26.08 | Syzgyn | fair enough |
| 00:26.15 | ckknight | the government has no true authority in my mind to tell us what to eat |
| 00:27.16 | Guillotine | He is definitely not a hippy. Hippys say "dude, be kind to all people. we are all one". Ck says "asphyxiation is the best way to kill someone since you have to think about it as you're doing it so its not a decision made in a moment" |
| 00:27.20 | Syzgyn | tell us, no, advise is, sure |
| 00:27.31 | Syzgyn | lol |
| 00:29.31 | Guillotine | Holy crap, people actually fall for those? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784275081&sid=1 |
| 00:29.41 | Seerah | anyway, ck, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4 |
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| 00:31.25 | Dolby | lol saw that on digg Seerah, pretty funny |
| 00:31.44 | Seerah | Guillotine had linked it |
| 00:31.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: if they didn't work, they wouldn't be sent |
| 00:32.02 | Guillotine | Seerah: yah, I got it from digg as well |
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| 00:43.56 | Tem | guil, coding with voice recognition? |
| 00:44.29 | Shirik | lol, last week archimonde = wipe 15 times then finally down |
| 00:44.34 | Shirik | this week archimonde = one shot gg |
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| 00:46.39 | Guillotine | Tem: somebody asked if clad's book would be released in an eBook format |
| 00:46.45 | Guillotine | Tem: I asked if it would be released in audio-book |
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| 00:57.53 | Guillotine | mm, jelly beans |
| 00:57.59 | Adys | Anyone here has a blp->tga conversion prog installed on their comp? |
| 00:58.12 | Syzgyn | Adys: Yus |
| 00:58.21 | kd3 | I've got a blp<->png converter |
| 00:58.37 | Adys | Syzgyn: could you upload me somewhere a blp and its tga output? any of them |
| 00:58.53 | Syzgyn | hold on, lemme make sure its not png |
| 00:58.56 | Shirik | oh dear god |
| 00:59.05 | Shirik | going to reliquary of souls, trying to read on the fight.... this looks incredibly complicated |
| 00:59.13 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 00:59.15 | Syzgyn | yeah, its tga |
| 00:59.22 | Adys | yay :) |
| 00:59.30 | Adys | Shirik: Good luck :P |
| 00:59.41 | Shirik | something scares me about the way you said "yay" |
| 00:59.44 | Syzgyn | haha |
| 00:59.48 | Adys | lol |
| 00:59.50 | Syzgyn | lesse... RoS |
| 01:00.15 | Syzgyn | as a healer, phase 1 you stand there, phase 2 you heal, phase 3 you run oom |
| 01:00.34 | Gngsk | p1 dispel? |
| 01:01.13 | Syzgyn | sure |
| 01:01.22 | Syzgyn | I havent done it, and I dont remember exactly offhand |
| 01:02.00 | Syzgyn | working on that for you Adys |
| 01:02.06 | Adys | cheers :) |
| 01:02.30 | Syzgyn | helping set up a raid at the same time :P |
| 01:03.19 | Shirik | yeah |
| 01:03.22 | Shirik | adn trying to get into my guild |
| 01:03.37 | Shirik | and pretending you're my alt, brother, and sister, all at the same time |
| 01:03.53 | Syzgyn | I'm your alt! send me gold! |
| 01:04.33 | Shirik | See biggest issue is recently we had someone pretend he was an alt and stole quite a bit out of our guild bank |
| 01:04.38 | Shirik | so yeah |
| 01:06.13 | Guillotine | ouch, that sucks |
| 01:06.26 | Guillotine | my guild just doesn't give bank priveleges to alts/friends |
| 01:06.42 | Cairenn | omg, cat yoddling |
| 01:06.54 | kd3 | wth? |
| 01:07.22 | Syzgyn | Adys: http://syzgyn.org/wow/media/adys/ #1 is from myWarcraftStudio, #2 is from BLP2toTGA |
| 01:07.35 | Adys | thanks alot |
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| 01:08.17 | Seerah | oh yeah, Shirik - someone did that on my server (not my guild) yesterday |
| 01:08.33 | Seerah | cleaned out their guild bank and was trying to sell the stuff in Trade |
| 01:09.38 | Guillotine | Cairenn: I told you that video was pure win |
| 01:09.42 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 01:09.49 | Cairenn | definitely amusing |
| 01:11.17 | batrick | oya |
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| 01:12.59 | Cairenn | hey Zootfizzle :) |
| 01:13.40 | Zootfizzle | Hiya! |
| 01:16.58 | Guillotine | Linkeur+LinkBugFix=win |
| 01:17.21 | Guillotine | spoofed links that other people can't duplicate (unless they have LinkBugFix as well) |
| 01:18.22 | Adys | Cairenn: You made me scroll up to find that vid, and it is awesome yes |
| 01:18.38 | Adys | man *goes off to try cat yoddling aswell* |
| 01:22.12 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: i have found a serious bug |
| 01:22.25 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: happening to my charracter right now |
| 01:22.42 | Guillotine | Me too |
| 01:22.47 | JoshBorke | me three! |
| 01:22.49 | Guillotine | but apparently me losing a duel is working as intended |
| 01:23.10 | JoshBorke | and apparently me not being able to play without paying is intended also |
| 01:23.22 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: I am not getting any COMBAT_LOG_EVENT or COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED events at all, have verified with GetFramesRegisteredForEvent() that i have frames registred for them |
| 01:23.35 | JoshBorke | you fail at lua |
| 01:23.40 | Arrowmaster | reloading ui did not solve it |
| 01:23.51 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: verify your event handler is working |
| 01:23.57 | Arrowmaster | JoshBorke: its not mine |
| 01:23.59 | Arrowmaster | its all |
| 01:24.08 | Arrowmaster | in the middle of a raid and i crashed |
| 01:24.10 | JoshBorke | i call bullocks |
| 01:24.23 | Arrowmaster | log back in and the combatlog stoped working, bigwigs stoped working, threat-2.0 stoped working |
| 01:24.32 | Fisker- | oh god no |
| 01:24.36 | Arrowmaster | im just plain not getting the events |
| 01:24.44 | Fisker- | i hope i didn't just lose my savedvars |
| 01:24.46 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.07 | Arrowmaster | im getting other events but not combatlog ones |
| 01:25.40 | JoshBorke | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.43 | JoshBorke | and restart wow completely |
| 01:26.18 | Arrowmaster | i just did /script f=CreateFrame("Frame"); f:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function() ChatFrame1:AddMessage("I got events!") end) |
| 01:26.20 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 01:26.38 | JoshBorke | well did you buff yourself? |
| 01:26.53 | Arrowmaster | im in the middle of a BT raid |
| 01:26.54 | JoshBorke | better yet, you should run into combat screaming like a little girl |
| 01:27.09 | JoshBorke | in all seriousness, you should restart wow |
| 01:27.14 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 01:27.23 | JoshBorke | or at least camp |
| 01:28.02 | Arrowmaster | although this is a perty major bug, i figure if theres anything i can do before restarting wow that might fix it to give them an idea of how to reproduce it, it would be better |
| 01:28.19 | JoshBorke | highly doubtful imo |
| 01:28.32 | JoshBorke | but perhaps there is a bug you can do that will cause wow to crash |
| 01:29.28 | Iriel | The problem with reporting it as a 'bug' is that it's only happened to you once, and you cant' reproduce it |
| 01:29.38 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 01:29.42 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 01:29.46 | Arrowmaster | but its still happened |
| 01:29.52 | Iriel | I prefer to say "brokenness" |
| 01:30.01 | JoshBorke | shit happens, but unless it happens often there are reproducible bugs that need to be fixed |
| 01:31.59 | Iriel | Is it odd to make small balance transfers between checking and savings account to make the savings account balance a round number? |
| 01:32.08 | Mikk | Yes |
| 01:32.37 | Mikk | Especially if your savings account is of the kind that has penalties if you withdraw too many times a year |
| 01:32.40 | Iriel | I know folks who can't log out of wow when they have a partial stack of leather, I didn't think this was that bad, but then I wondered how many others do it. |
| 01:33.06 | Iriel | I transfer into it, to level it out, so that'd be fine. |
| 01:33.12 | JoshBorke | Iriel: that's odd |
| 01:33.26 | JoshBorke | Iriel: what do you do when you get interest to it? |
| 01:33.35 | Iriel | JoshBorke: That's why I have to re-level it. |
| 01:33.41 | Iriel | Interest doesn't come in whole dollars |
| 01:33.52 | JoshBorke | iriel: that's bizarre |
| 01:34.04 | Iriel | I'll note i'm not entirely pathalogical, its only when I notice it (every few months) |
| 01:34.07 | JoshBorke | though not being able to log out is worse |
| 01:34.09 | Fisker- | there |
| 01:34.17 | Fisker- | i hope my market swindling is enough to raise the market prices |
| 01:34.19 | Fisker- | mwuhahahhaha |
| 01:34.30 | Fisker- | my server is going to wish their badge vendor was never born |
| 01:36.26 | Mikk | LPSes and primals are selling for 40g on my server right now |
| 01:36.31 | Mikk | badge vendor came up last night |
| 01:36.36 | Fisker- | yeees |
| 01:36.42 | Fisker- | that's exactly what i'm shooting for |
| 01:36.58 | Fisker- | and if i succeed i'll have earned like 2,5k on it |
| 01:37.25 | Mikk | It hasn't opened yet on your server? |
| 01:37.36 | Fisker- | nope |
| 01:37.46 | Mikk | Buy LPSes, buy primal mana, buy primal air |
| 01:37.53 | Mikk | Buy planars |
| 01:37.58 | Shirik | rofl |
| 01:38.02 | Mikk | Though dont go too wild on planars |
| 01:38.03 | Shirik | That ghost room is so fun! |
| 01:38.04 | Fisker- | LPS's are too expensive i'm going to bother |
| 01:38.22 | Fisker- | primal air is already up the wazoo |
| 01:38.24 | Mikk | Sigh, of course you have an AH toon with ~10k money on |
| 01:38.31 | Arrowmaster | ok restarting wow fixed it |
| 01:38.32 | Fisker- | :D |
| 01:38.33 | Mikk | So you can game the market properly! |
| 01:38.35 | Fisker- | srsly |
| 01:38.54 | Fisker- | i'll not buy LPS' now when i can make them for 16g each |
| 01:38.58 | Shirik | Adys: You didn't tell me how fun this was! |
| 01:39.23 | Adys | hehe ive never done ros myself :) |
| 01:39.33 | Shirik | the room before him is fun |
| 01:39.38 | Fisker- | what is your primal mana's up for Mikk? |
| 01:39.45 | Adys | Just reading on them, never raided at 70 |
| 01:39.47 | lagger | pets are AFFILIATION_MINE right |
| 01:39.47 | Mikk | They didn't move much |
| 01:39.57 | Mikk | Primal earth took a jump from 4g up to 15g at which point I sold a bunch |
| 01:40.02 | Mikk | This was when the AH ran out of primal water |
| 01:40.03 | Mikk | :P |
| 01:40.09 | Fisker- | now you tell me? :o |
| 01:41.14 | Mikk | Life SHOULD have moved a bit but didn't much on my server. |
| 01:41.22 | Mikk | I guess there was just too much of it on the AH |
| 01:41.30 | Shirik | Adys :( |
| 01:41.37 | Shirik | you should |
| 01:41.38 | Zootfizzle | Arrowmaster: I'm dispatching SWAT-Gnomes to your residence right now. |
| 01:41.38 | Shirik | it's fun |
| 01:41.40 | Shirik | at least Kara |
| 01:41.52 | Adys | Ive done kara, but thats not really raiding :P |
| 01:42.03 | Mikk | It is when you go there in blues! |
| 01:42.15 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: pff you could have responded before i restarted wow and the 'brokenness' went away |
| 01:42.16 | Adys | i was in half t3 at the time |
| 01:42.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:42.25 | Shirik | what about gruul? |
| 01:42.29 | Shirik | gruul is fun |
| 01:42.31 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: lost your chance to get debug info about it if you wanted |
| 01:42.44 | Zootfizzle | Heh |
| 01:42.47 | Mikk | Yeah gruul is a good first encounter tbh |
| 01:42.53 | Adys | Shirik, been, not really done |
| 01:42.55 | Shirik | ~hug Zootfizzle |
| 01:42.56 | purl | ACTION hugs Zootfizzle |
| 01:43.04 | Mikk | It set the bar for tbc raiding right at the start |
| 01:43.07 | Zootfizzle | I'll let QA know it happened, maybe they can reproduce it |
| 01:43.11 | Mikk | "Welcome. No more tank and spank." |
| 01:43.16 | Fisker- | this better be worth it Mikk :P |
| 01:43.21 | Fisker- | or i'm blaming you :O |
| 01:43.35 | Adys | Shirik, I wanted 40mans back etc so I just stopped raiding altogether and focused on more technical stuff in game :P |
| 01:43.42 | Fisker- | i'm wondering if i should put up a large stack of LPS for 45g as well |
| 01:43.48 | Fisker- | so that it averages out to 40g instead |
| 01:43.58 | Shirik | I like the move from 40 to 25 |
| 01:44.03 | Mikk | Me too |
| 01:44.09 | Shirik | The only reason I ever felt useful in 40 mans was because I was hunter lead |
| 01:44.15 | Mikk | Single players matter more now |
| 01:44.15 | Shirik | If I wasn't, I'd just be lost in the crowd |
| 01:44.17 | Arrowmaster | Zootfizzle: started when i got disconnected on dying during a RoS wipe, persisted through ui reloads until i exited wow |
| 01:44.20 | Mikk | Which hurts when you have a few crap ones |
| 01:44.22 | Mikk | But they got replaced |
| 01:44.43 | Iriel | Wouldn't getting D/C'ed on death be the 'bug' ? |
| 01:44.44 | Zootfizzle | Did you try logging in and out without exiting WoW? |
| 01:44.54 | Fisker- | what are your primal manas up for Mikk? |
| 01:44.57 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt try that |
| 01:45.04 | Mikk | ~14, standard price |
| 01:45.08 | Zootfizzle | Being disconnected on dying is usually the result of a dropped movement packet. |
| 01:45.15 | Fisker- | damn |
| 01:45.27 | Zootfizzle | When you reconnected to your previous session, the world server stopped sending you combat_log events |
| 01:45.31 | Zootfizzle | So that's the bug. |
| 01:45.36 | Zootfizzle | I'll take a look at it. |
| 01:46.19 | Shirik | I'll drop your movement packets |
| 01:46.39 | Zootfizzle | You can try ;) |
| 01:48.42 | Adys | Syzgyn: Got the conversion script working now thanks for the tgas :) |
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| 01:51.38 | Adys | also mywarcraftstudio's conversion is horribly inefficient it seems |
| 01:53.35 | Zootfizzle | I can't imagine why ;) |
| 01:53.40 | Zootfizzle | Oh wait |
| 01:53.42 | Zootfizzle | Yes I can |
| 01:53.53 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: quick question. Barely a day goes by on CSF without someone getting 'lost' because the secondary profession trainers lost the ability to tell players where to go to get their next level training. Should I file yet another Bug and Suggestion report? (This has been a pet peeve of mine since before the gossip removal was announced 'coz I foresaw these issues for new players) |
| 01:53.54 | Adys | hehe |
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| 01:54.32 | Mikk | Sigh disconnect. I'll say it again if it didn't get through last time: |
| 01:54.34 | Mikk | Zootfizzle: Please pass on a big whooping "THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!" for the new chat filters from me and every dev I know :) |
| 01:54.54 | Zootfizzle | Mikk: I put 'em in, you're welcome, they should be getting even better next patch thanks to Tem ;) |
| 01:55.32 | bleeter | er s/announced/took place/ |
| 01:55.34 | Adys | btw Mikk someone was looking for you on #wowwiki the other day |
| 01:55.43 | Mikk | Meh, I'm always online on freenode. |
| 01:55.48 | Mikk | Just not necessarily in #wowwiki |
| 01:55.55 | Mikk | I've had to cut back on the number of open channels I'm in |
| 01:55.57 | kd3 | xmms2 next |
| 01:55.59 | kd3 | ... |
| 01:56.00 | kd3 | bah |
| 01:56.09 | Zootfizzle | bleeter: I actually just ran into that problem myself on a new <race class and level redacted>, I don't think anyone really thought that part through. |
| 01:56.11 | Adys | Mikk: wanted the source file for the irc logo iirc |
| 01:56.19 | Mikk | i didn't do that |
| 01:56.19 | bleeter | ~lart kd3 |
| 01:56.19 | purl | burns kd3 to a crisp with a laser |
| 01:56.20 | Zootfizzle | If I get a chance, I'll bring it up with the designers |
| 01:57.04 | Mikk | Zootfizzle: Hm, would this have anything to do with arg2 etc not being passed to the filter function? When I documented the functions on wowwiki I just said that they could be reached through the globals. |
| 01:57.53 | Zootfizzle | That, and the inability to use the filter functions to change prepended text like DND/AFK tags and player links |
| 01:58.34 | Arrowmaster | yes want to use filters to color player names and such |
| 01:58.44 | Arrowmaster | and change channel names |
| 01:59.13 | Iriel | Like replacing 'General' with 'The Farmyard' ? |
| 01:59.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 01:59.48 | Arrowmaster | new filters are perfect for filtering whispers though like autoresponses from mods |
| 02:00.33 | kd3 | did the abusing the /gmotd to send textures thing ever get fixed? |
| 02:00.39 | Guillotine | no |
| 02:00.46 | Guillotine | who said it was abusing? >.> |
| 02:00.55 | bleeter | Zootfizzle: sweet, I appreciate your time constraints and I thank you for your response :) |
| 02:01.09 | bleeter | Guillotine: it's only abuse when it's not you doing it |
| 02:01.25 | Guillotine | There is still no sanitization of any of that guild stuff (MOTD, guild bank tabs, notes) |
| 02:01.30 | Guillotine | bleeter: that makes sense |
| 02:01.42 | Guillotine | when I do it, its bug testing |
| 02:01.46 | Mikk | Well boohoo. If you can't trust your officers to not do harmful stuff, switch guild |
| 02:01.58 | Mikk | Which I assume is why it hasn't gotten fixed yet :> |
| 02:02.24 | bleeter | most guild officers, prolly wouldn't even occur to them to try to do it |
| 02:02.26 | Guillotine | I mean, its not like it can really be exploited that badly. The worst you can do is imitate a GM with one whisper |
| 02:02.47 | Guillotine | someone is going to notice if they only get GM whispers right after the MOTD is changed |
| 02:02.59 | Mikk | Erm I can imitate them just fine without abusing gmotds thankyou |
| 02:03.18 | Guillotine | well, not without having an addon installed on the target's comp |
| 02:03.22 | Guillotine | with the textures and such |
| 02:04.06 | Mikk | I can do it well enough to fool joe player |
| 02:04.29 | Guillotine | well, if they don't remember that there is now an icon. And they don't have a name coloring addon. |
| 02:04.42 | Guillotine | though the ability to use Hplayer links in the MOTD really is kind of nice |
| 02:04.52 | Mikk | Ya know I'll just not talk in open channel about exactly what I do :P |
| 02:12.09 | Fisker- | anyone remember that macro fro cancelling all your auctions? |
| 02:12.19 | Shirik | lol, that fight is so much fun Arrowmaster! |
| 02:12.30 | Shirik | er, Adys |
| 02:12.33 | Shirik | you need to go try it! |
| 02:12.37 | leethal | I've heard about someone frapsing a lore-playthrough of warcraft 3. As in, all cut scenes and in-game story stuff, without the actual playing, anyone got some sauce on that? |
| 02:13.02 | Adys | Shirik: aight brb then unfreezing my accoutn and transferring back my mage =P |
| 02:13.04 | kd3 | nope, but that'd be useful to have |
| 02:13.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:13.33 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 02:14.45 | bleeter | Fisker-: it's on the auctioneer wiki somewhere, lemme see if I can find it quick |
| 02:16.24 | bleeter | Fisker-: http://wiki.norganna.org/Auctioneer/Saving_Time_With_Macros |
| 02:16.40 | Fisker- | i loev my bleeter |
| 02:16.46 | Arrowmaster | L5 Arcane Charge is the best spell ever |
| 02:16.51 | bleeter | weirdo |
| 02:17.21 | kd3 | here's hoping they do that more often, or just solve the problem entirely... |
| 02:18.09 | Mikk | I have a hack that lets you rightclick to cancel auctions |
| 02:18.16 | Mikk | Been wondering if maybe I should submit that as a proper auc util |
| 02:18.22 | Fisker- | you should |
| 02:18.36 | Fisker- | infact they should just put it in the UI already |
| 02:18.48 | Fisker- | like "Cancel all auctions" and "Cancel selected auctions" |
| 02:19.00 | Fisker- | and reskin the "your auctions" section like the way they do it in auc-adv |
| 02:19.10 | Mikk | aucadv doesnt reskin your auctions |
| 02:19.33 | Mikk | or do you mean that it should? |
| 02:20.28 | kergoth | i'd like a way to buy up a bunch of shit without a confirmation on each buyout, personally. a 'check here to skip confirmation until you uncheck it', or something |
| 02:20.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:20.37 | Mikk | that's not possible |
| 02:20.42 | Mikk | buying something requires a click |
| 02:20.43 | kergoth | boo |
| 02:21.01 | Mikk | HOWEVER it's enitrely possible to make that click be the click on the item, of course |
| 02:21.03 | kergoth | guess i'll just use btmscan with snatch to buy up bunches of stuff, at least thats less clicks |
| 02:21.09 | bleeter | you can keybind the 'accept' iirc |
| 02:21.11 | Lopeppeppy | Because of too many idiots buying stuff they didn't want. |
| 02:21.12 | Fisker- | Mikk err? |
| 02:21.21 | Lopeppeppy | Programming for the "stupidest common denominator" |
| 02:21.25 | Fisker- | It reskins the auction house to display a lot more auctions per page |
| 02:21.33 | Mikk | Fisker-: yeah, the normal auction listing it does |
| 02:21.38 | kergoth | Fisker-: it gives a new -browse- interface, not a your auctions interface |
| 02:21.41 | kergoth | compactui |
| 02:21.45 | Mikk | Fisker-: you're meaning you want the same for your own auctions yeah? |
| 02:21.49 | bleeter | the hardware event was introduced to nullify the original BTMScanner (can't recall it's old name) |
| 02:21.52 | Fisker- | yeah Mikk |
| 02:21.58 | Mikk | bleeter: BtmFeeder |
| 02:22.05 | bleeter | Mikk: yup, that's it |
| 02:22.27 | Mikk | Of course, now there's bot scripts to do it instead |
| 02:22.37 | Mikk | But most people dont' want to use bots thankfully |
| 02:24.59 | Mikk | kergoth: good idea there... how about rightclicking items to instabuy them? |
| 02:25.08 | Mikk | That would be the same mod as rightclicking to cancel |
| 02:28.21 | Mikk | Fisker-: stock up on GEEs btw. They're going for 30g now here. |
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| 02:48.28 | sag_ich_nicht | [04:21] <+Lopeppeppy> Because of too many idiots buying stuff they didn't want. <--more like |
| 02:48.33 | sag_ich_nicht | because i enabled btmfeeder |
| 02:48.33 | sag_ich_nicht | :> |
| 02:49.29 | Fisker- | damn |
| 02:49.34 | Fisker- | if only i could put up stuff faster |
| 02:51.56 | Mikk | auc-adv appraiser not fast enough? |
| 02:52.13 | Mikk | "hai, put up 20 of 1x[Item] for X bid Y buyout please." *click* |
| 02:52.41 | Cairenn | god I love this movie |
| 02:52.56 | Legorol | me too |
| 02:53.03 | Legorol | watched it many many times |
| 02:53.07 | Fisker- | Mikk yeah it's just the delay there is from the server |
| 02:53.08 | Fisker- | :( |
| 02:53.48 | Cairenn | "You want answers?" |
| 02:54.31 | Zootfizzle | I WANT THE TRUTH! |
| 02:54.35 | Fisker- | weird |
| 02:54.42 | Cairenn | YOU CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!! |
| 02:54.46 | Fisker- | when i put up a lot of auctions my WoW screws up |
| 02:54.47 | Mikk | Zootfizzle: check your PMs already :/ |
| 02:55.20 | Zootfizzle | It's 8PM on Sunday, Mikk |
| 02:55.26 | Zootfizzle | I love you guys, but I don't feel like work =P |
| 02:55.28 | Zootfizzle | Message me tomorrow. |
| 02:55.33 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:55.43 | Fisker- | it's already monday here! |
| 02:55.54 | Zootfizzle | Thanks for sharing! |
| 02:55.57 | Mikk | Erm, sorry. I'm a bit lost on days right now >.< |
| 02:56.02 | Zootfizzle | I had no idea timezones worked like that ;) |
| 02:56.14 | Zootfizzle | No worries mate |
| 02:56.37 | kd3 | wha? 8? you mean it isn't eastern time everywhere? |
| 02:57.02 | Fisker- | :O |
| 02:57.13 | Mikk | Or rephrased: WTH are you doing accepting work related chatter AT ALL in the weekend? It's not good for you! *bonk* |
| 02:58.06 | Mikk | This would be the reason why I'm not keeping track of which day of the week it is :S |
| 02:58.25 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:58.44 | Lopeppeppy | It's fraggleday |
| 02:58.54 | Mikk | 10 years of nonstop work around the clock/week -> croak -> been on sick leave for 3 years. |
| 02:58.56 | Mikk | \o/ |
| 02:59.00 | Mikk | It's heaps of fun I tell you! |
| 03:01.53 | Zootfizzle | Mikk, I feel ya, sorry to hear that |
| 03:04.10 | Shirik | ~hug Mick |
| 03:04.11 | purl | ACTION hugs Mick tightly until Mick turns slightly blue |
| 03:04.15 | Shirik | er |
| 03:04.18 | Shirik | ~hug Mikk |
| 03:04.19 | purl | ACTION hugs Mikk |
| 03:04.35 | Adys | ~spellnuke Shirik |
| 03:04.41 | Adys | damnit wrong bot |
| 03:04.47 | Shirik | ~whalenuke Adys |
| 03:04.47 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Adys with his mind powers. |
| 03:04.54 | Adys | ~whaleslap Shirik |
| 03:04.54 | purl | ACTION beats Shirik upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 03:04.58 | Shirik | ~whaleparry Adys |
| 03:04.58 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Adys's attacks. |
| 03:05.03 | Nechckn | we need our AH buying stuff util! |
| 03:05.05 | Nechckn | =) |
| 03:05.06 | Adys | ~whaleshield Shirik |
| 03:05.10 | Shirik | I win |
| 03:05.12 | Adys | damnit :( |
| 03:05.46 | Mikk | Yeah, see, I haven't learned to fix that yet. I have a DKP addon to (re-)write for the guild. Ace3 stuff. Auc stuff. |
| 03:06.04 | Mikk | All of which is "yesterday" stuff, really. |
| 03:06.15 | Mikk | Plus my pet projects that I'd _like_ to do some day (HAH!) |
| 03:06.20 | JoshBork1 | anyone have a screenshot of mybindings2? |
| 03:06.26 | Nechckn | isn't that how it always works out though? |
| 03:06.53 | Mikk | Nechckn: I guess. The difference is how much you let it get to you. |
| 03:08.31 | Nechckn | good point- I just don't care anymore- I find that thing go much, much more smoothly |
| 03:09.06 | Mikk | Teach me oh master! |
| 03:09.10 | Nechckn | Not quite so much that I don't care- but I don't care what anyone things |
| 03:09.29 | Nechckn | s/things/thinks even! |
| 03:10.06 | Nechckn | since I do, of course care but this way I get to pick what to care about =) |
| 03:10.54 | JoshBorke | wtf is going on? |
| 03:11.02 | Mikk | We're being soft and emo etc |
| 03:11.14 | JoshBorke | audit treesync and tell me how much it sucks |
| 03:11.44 | Mikk | > grep "suckage" treesync.lua |
| 03:11.48 | Mikk | [stack overflow] |
| 03:11.53 | Mikk | done! |
| 03:12.54 | JoshBorke | YES! |
| 03:13.46 | Seerah | who do I have to bake cookies for to get a ginvite to Load on Demand? ;) there's never anyone on when I log onto my tester toon on Draka |
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| 03:14.43 | Mikk | You erm... umm.... sell your account to me so I can actually get onto that server.... and then I kick cair's behind viciously until the toon gets in! |
| 03:14.58 | Seerah | lol |
| 03:15.03 | JoshBorke | i have an toon in the guild |
| 03:15.09 | JoshBorke | unfortunately i do not have an active account |
| 03:15.20 | Seerah | :( |
| 03:16.32 | Shirik | I was in Load on Demand |
| 03:16.34 | Shirik | then I got kicked out |
| 03:16.39 | Seerah | no wai |
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| 03:18.07 | JoshBorke | he deserved it |
| 03:18.08 | JoshBorke | don't worry |
| 03:19.28 | Shirik | wtf i did |
| 03:19.33 | Shirik | u not liek me |
| 03:19.36 | JoshBorke | ~failrik |
| 03:19.37 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 03:19.56 | JoshBorke | ok, night |
| 03:21.18 | Seerah | haha - failrik |
| 03:22.07 | kd3 | ~factinfo failrik |
| 03:22.07 | purl | failrik -- created by Cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> at Mon Mar 17 17:36:58 2008 (27 days); it has been requested 20 times, last by JoshBorke, 2m 30s ago. |
| 03:23.21 | Adys | ~factinfo ping |
| 03:23.21 | purl | ping -- created by triclops <~triclops@203-219-160-62-nsw.tpgi.com.au> at Mon Oct 20 01:05:24 2003 (1638 days); last modified at Thu Mar 27 22:34:12 2008 by Adys!n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys; it has been requested 1569 times, last by Adys, 7s ago. |
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| 03:26.11 | kd3 | wtf fox news... via fark: [Spiffy] "Experts" say sending cell phone porn is now part of teen dating |
| 03:26.54 | Syzgyn | kd3: hmm, I need to start dating teenagers again |
| 03:28.56 | Corrodias | mmm |
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| 03:34.06 | AbsoRayne | http://www.freewebs.com/absorayne/WoWScrnShot%5F041308%5F201413.png What do you guys think, the bar texture working? |
| 03:34.19 | Fisker- | fuck this shit |
| 03:34.40 | Fisker- | when did blizzard make it so i have to respawn my flare every other minute |
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| 04:06.40 | Fisker- | hoho Mikk |
| 04:06.44 | Fisker- | guildies called madness |
| 04:06.45 | Fisker- | and blasphemy |
| 04:07.00 | Syzgyn | weeeeeeee server going d-d-d-down |
| 04:09.56 | kd3 | wth? http://jalopnik.com/378838/and-now-your-jalopnik-moment-of-zen |
| 04:10.46 | Syzgyn | wooow |
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| 04:20.52 | ScytheBlade1 | You think I'd learn to turn off GUIDWatcher |
| 04:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | But no |
| 04:21.17 | kd3 | do we want to know how many hundreds of megs of ram your UI's using? |
| 04:21.29 | ScytheBlade1 | 27.57MB actually |
| 04:21.37 | ScytheBlade1 | GUIDWatcher being 9.75MB of that, the most |
| 04:22.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Followed by SWS at 3.08 and oRA2 at 2.32 |
| 04:22.39 | Shirik | so |
| 04:22.47 | Shirik | Macintosh is offering computers with 32GB of ram? |
| 04:22.48 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 04:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | They can? |
| 04:23.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Err |
| 04:23.04 | ScytheBlade1 | That was meant to be rhetorical |
| 04:23.04 | Iriel | My desktop can handle 16GB |
| 04:23.08 | Iriel | it's only got 5 in it tho |
| 04:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | "Because they can?" <-- better question |
| 04:23.18 | Shirik | One of my teams was messing around on Mac's site and we put together a $26K computer |
| 04:23.33 | kd3 | think my mobo can handle 16 too |
| 04:23.39 | Iriel | Get your memory from Crucial, anyway 8-) |
| 04:23.43 | Shirik | I believe mine can only handle 8 :( |
| 04:23.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe |
| 04:23.46 | ScytheBlade1 | What Iriel said :) |
| 04:23.49 | Shirik | !g A8N32-SLI |
| 04:23.50 | batbot | Shirik: Asus' A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard - The Tech Report - Page 1 <http://techreport.com/article_redir.x/2005q4/asus-a8n32-sli/index.x?pg=1> |
| 04:23.51 | Iriel | Apple charge far too much |
| 04:24.16 | Shirik | ah, max 4GB |
| 04:24.22 | Shirik | oh well good enough, I bought this motherboard like 2 years ago |
| 04:24.26 | Shirik | I'm very satisfied with it |
| 04:24.29 | Dolby | owc has good prices on mac pro memory too http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Mac-Pro-Memory |
| 04:24.42 | Shirik | oh and also |
| 04:24.46 | Shirik | We put mac server on it |
| 04:24.50 | Shirik | I didn't even know there WAS a Mac server |
| 04:25.52 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:25.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ~failrik |
| 04:25.55 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 04:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ~factinfo failrik |
| 04:26.10 | purl | failrik -- created by Cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> at Mon Mar 17 17:36:58 2008 (27 days); it has been requested 21 times, last by ScytheBlade1, 15s ago. |
| 04:26.14 | ScytheBlade1 | We're getting there |
| 04:26.15 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:26.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Though 21 is not nearly enough |
| 04:26.20 | Shirik | and we put 4 8-cores in it |
| 04:26.26 | Shirik | so 32 core PC |
| 04:26.42 | kd3 | gack |
| 04:27.25 | Shirik | maybe it was 8 4-cores |
| 04:27.42 | Shirik | no it was 8 cores |
| 04:27.53 | Shirik | oh but it was only 2, boo |
| 04:28.02 | kd3 | even then, gack. I fear to think what an 8-cpu board would look like |
| 04:28.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Two quad-cores |
| 04:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | That's the most they offer in a mac pro |
| 04:28.37 | Shirik | no, 2 8-cores :P |
| 04:28.50 | Shirik | I'll show you the configuration in a sec |
| 04:28.51 | Shirik | looking at it right now |
| 04:28.53 | ScytheBlade1 | "Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)" |
| 04:29.01 | ScytheBlade1 | That is incredibly ambigious |
| 04:29.08 | Iriel | Not really |
| 04:29.11 | Iriel | two quad core |
| 04:29.16 | Iriel | total of 8 cores |
| 04:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha |
| 04:29.21 | Iriel | in context there's no ambiguity |
| 04:29.26 | ScytheBlade1 | So Shirik got it wrong! Win |
| 04:29.33 | Shirik | total is $26800 |
| 04:29.41 | Shirik | $26870 |
| 04:29.48 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:29.49 | Shirik | boo |
| 04:29.55 | Shirik | Mac's site is misleading |
| 04:29.57 | Iriel | I have one of them at work (very low spec tho) |
| 04:29.58 | Shirik | I'm going to sue |
| 04:30.20 | Shirik | here, does this work? http://store.apple.com/AppleStore/WebObjects/BizCustom.woa/91294008/wo/OK5sTs63aA163sdLZYF7CCPryPN/1.?p=0 |
| 04:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 04:30.58 | Iriel | Why add the raid card then NOT select SAS drives? |
| 04:31.01 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:31.04 | Dolby | you buying that Shirik ? |
| 04:31.06 | Shirik | because I wasn't configuring it, an AE guy was :P |
| 04:31.21 | Shirik | (aerospace engineer, they're stupid :P |
| 04:31.29 | Shirik | hell no Dolby |
| 04:31.32 | Shirik | you think I have money? |
| 04:31.35 | Iriel | plus you included all the software |
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| 04:32.22 | Dolby | you also need 2 30" displays |
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| 04:32.38 | Shirik | totally |
| 04:32.46 | Shirik | but yeah, I need a new setup soon |
| 04:32.50 | Shirik | I'm debating how I want to do it |
| 04:32.59 | Shirik | I don't want to really buy all the parts because it's usually cheaper to buy a prepackaged thing |
| 04:33.13 | Shirik | if not, it's not much more expensive |
| 04:33.24 | kd3 | meh, I've got 2 20"s... short of those, most of the money in my system went to HDDs |
| 04:33.35 | Shirik | what I really want is solid state drives |
| 04:33.41 | Shirik | but I need a little bit more of a price cut on them first |
| 04:33.46 | Dolby | you should get a packerdbell |
| 04:33.48 | Shirik | also I still need to get a new camera |
| 04:34.13 | Mikk | Sick. Sick. Sick. |
| 04:34.26 | Mikk | How the hell do you defend $28k on a bloody PC? |
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| 04:34.33 | Shirik | I don't :P |
| 04:34.36 | Iriel | it's not really a PC at that point |
| 04:34.46 | kd3 | that's just pissing money away... |
| 04:34.50 | Shirik | it's more of for businesses doing serious 3D work or so most likely |
| 04:34.51 | kd3 | ~10 grand for ram? |
| 04:34.54 | Iriel | it's a heavily equipped visualization workstation with a crapload of software |
| 04:35.05 | Shirik | My school would probably buy one |
| 04:35.07 | Shirik | just to say they have it |
| 04:35.16 | Dolby | well if a system like that can make you $500k a year then its a good deal |
| 04:35.16 | Iriel | they'd also get a serious discount |
| 04:35.18 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 04:35.22 | Shirik | We have a 120-box beowulf cluster that I have NEVER seen used |
| 04:35.29 | Mikk | >.< |
| 04:35.30 | Shirik | but we say we have it anyway |
| 04:35.48 | kd3 | meh, install seti@home on it |
| 04:35.57 | Dolby | lol |
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| 04:39.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:39.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Excellent usage of processing power |
| 04:40.47 | Mikk | Pf. At least run FAH or something useful :P |
| 04:41.03 | Mikk | Seti is sooo last millenia ;) |
| 04:41.51 | Revenge013 | Hello ... looking for some examples/advice on making a simple timer bar |
| 04:45.18 | Syzgyn | timer of what? |
| 04:46.38 | Revenge013 | A 45 seconds timer, for which I already have the script |
| 04:47.14 | Revenge013 | I got it to display a numeric value in an XML frame, counts up to 45 from 0, but would like to see how to get it done like a cooldown bar |
| 04:47.36 | Shirik | Oh wow! |
| 04:47.41 | Shirik | It's definitely not a 120-box beowulf cluster |
| 04:47.59 | Shirik | according to this article it's a 262 box cluster http://media.www.eraunews.com/media/storage/paper917/news/2005/01/28/CampusNews/Beowulf.Computer.Cluster.To.Boost.Research.At.EmbryRiddle.And.BethuneCookman-1652514.shtml |
| 04:48.01 | Shirik | wtf |
| 04:51.54 | Syzgyn | Revenge013: A simple way to do it is have a texture with a width of (length/45)*currentTime |
| 04:53.19 | Revenge013 | What would that syntax look like though? I'm an addon newb. I've got an OnUpdate script running to count to 45, with 'total' being the varible to hold the current time. Would the texture be in a frame all it's own? |
| 04:53.48 | Syzgyn | No, you can put it in the same frame, as a texture |
| 04:54.04 | Syzgyn | and in your onUpdate script, set the width of the texture |
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| 05:04.09 | End | hm |
| 05:04.37 | End | PitBull could really use a ClassIcon tag for its dogtags |
| 05:05.34 | End | (unfortunately, it appears rogues and paladins don't have a plain old accessible texture icon, which is why I'm using the one ChatIcons includes...wheee!) |
| 05:09.17 | Tem | End, if it exists in game files, I can't find it |
| 05:09.28 | Tem | (rogue/paladin icons) |
| 05:09.42 | Tem | (standalone, not part of the big ALL_CLASS_ICONS_TEXTURE) |
| 05:10.20 | End | yeah |
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| 05:10.30 | End | I was wondering where you got standalone textures at all |
| 05:10.35 | End | then I looked at your code |
| 05:10.42 | End | and I was like oh, yeah those would exist |
| 05:10.50 | End | and then oh, those don't exist and you just added your own |
| 05:10.52 | MentalPower | whats wrong with the all class icons texture? |
| 05:11.07 | Tem | MentalPower, |Tpath|t can't do TexCoords |
| 05:11.21 | Tem | (yet? *pray*) |
| 05:11.23 | MentalPower | can it do a texture object? |
| 05:11.28 | Tem | no |
| 05:11.28 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:12.36 | Xinhuan | using |Tpath|t has some side effects too, if used early in a line |
| 05:12.53 | Xinhuan | it sometimes causes the end of the line to get "word wrapped earlier" |
| 05:13.32 | Xinhuan | for example: |Tsome long path|t [This is an item link] |
| 05:13.42 | Xinhuan | sometimes gets displayed all on one line |
| 05:13.47 | Xinhuan | and sometimes the itemlinks gets chopped into 2 lines |
| 05:14.20 | Xinhuan | assuming the font string has a fixed width of course |
| 05:15.54 | Xinhuan | so its kind of annoying, and it generally just ends up better not to embed texture icons at all |
| 05:17.30 | MentalPower | Xinhuan: have you created a bug report post about this? |
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| 05:17.43 | Xinhuan | not yet |
| 05:17.46 | Tem | no, but I have |
| 05:17.52 | Xinhuan | because the bug appears inconsistent |
| 05:17.55 | Xinhuan | and not always reproducable |
| 05:17.57 | Tem | before the patch came out |
| 05:18.05 | Xinhuan | ah Tem, you encountered this before too? |
| 05:18.17 | Tem | the letter vertical position thing is a new one with the patch, though |
| 05:18.25 | Tem | but I've reported that as well |
| 05:18.49 | Xinhuan | yuo know how GameTooltip has 10 inbuilt textures originally? |
| 05:18.56 | Tem | yeah? |
| 05:19.01 | Xinhuan | i used those, but anything after 10 lines won't have textures |
| 05:19.10 | Xinhuan | if i switched to embedded fontstrings in :AddLine() instead |
| 05:19.16 | Xinhuan | the word wrapping issue comes up soemtimes |
| 05:19.27 | Xinhuan | embedded textures* |
| 05:19.48 | Tem | aaah |
| 05:20.06 | Tem | that might be tooltip issues |
| 05:20.10 | Tem | since tooltips are evil |
| 05:20.31 | Tem | so much internal "magic" that makes them work |
| 05:20.42 | Xinhuan | ya, more trouble than its worth |
| 05:20.56 | Guillotine | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.00 | Guillotine | night all :) |
| 05:21.12 | Tem | Guillotine, nice voice recognition coding, btw |
| 05:21.14 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4029.0;attach=4794;image |
| 05:21.17 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4029.0;attach=4796;image |
| 05:21.25 | Xinhuan | that's the difference |
| 05:21.34 | Xinhuan | between embedded textures and using gametooltip's textures |
| 05:21.42 | Guillotine | Tem: lol, it wasn't that. Someone asked clad if the new WoW programming book was going to be released in an eBook format. I asked if it was going to be released in audioBook |
| 05:22.21 | Guillotine | anyway, night |
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| 05:24.25 | WobWork | has guillotine been running his code through Naturally Speaking? |
| 05:24.59 | Tem | Xinhuan, honestly, I think the "bugged" version looks nicer >< |
| 05:25.12 | Tem | Also, I no longer think that's a bug |
| 05:25.19 | Xinhuan | really lol |
| 05:25.35 | Xinhuan | the "bug" also appears depending on your tooltip's :SetScale() |
| 05:25.41 | Xinhuan | as you can see in the background options |
| 05:25.50 | Tem | oh wait, the bugged one is that the line _does_ wrap? |
| 05:25.55 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 05:25.59 | Tem | oh yeah, that's looks teh bad |
| 05:26.10 | Tem | just disable wrapping on those lines when you add them |
| 05:26.21 | Xinhuan | wrapping isn't enabled on those lines |
| 05:26.25 | Xinhuan | it just does it by itself |
| 05:26.31 | Tem | *scratch* |
| 05:26.40 | Xinhuan | :AddLine(text) |
| 05:26.41 | Tem | is that a normal tooltip or Tablet? |
| 05:26.49 | Xinhuan | standard GameTooltip |
| 05:27.34 | Tem | hmm |
| 05:27.49 | Tem | k, then I would manually change the size of the tooltip so they don't wrap |
| 05:27.57 | Tem | oh wait, that might not work |
| 05:28.01 | Xinhuan | for me, the issue is weird |
| 05:28.09 | Xinhuan | i could play for the first 4 hours and not see this issue |
| 05:28.16 | Xinhuan | then the issue suddenly appears after that |
| 05:28.22 | Xinhuan | and i don't use tooltip addons |
| 05:28.35 | Xinhuan | for others, its consistently there, or not there |
| 05:28.40 | Tem | I think the issue is in the sizing of the lines |
| 05:28.50 | Tem | See, when you :AddLine() |
| 05:29.01 | Tem | it manually sets the width of the fontstring |
| 05:29.14 | Tem | it's probably not taking into account the fact that the icon is there |
| 05:29.31 | Xinhuan | which is kinda why i think its not worth the trouble to "fix it" |
| 05:29.42 | Tem | try adding a really wide icon to a line |
| 05:29.45 | Tem | and see what happens |
| 05:29.57 | Tem | btw, what addon is that? |
| 05:29.59 | Tem | I wants it |
| 05:30.03 | Xinhuan | Postal |
| 05:30.17 | Tem | I _need_ the Ctr-Click feature |
| 05:30.24 | Tem | like, _need_ |
| 05:30.34 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 05:30.35 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 05:31.00 | Tem | because I'm lazy and don't like creating a new message to return items when I'm bouncing them between characters |
| 05:31.25 | Xinhuan | if you do get Postal, note that i've a "secret feature" in it, the checkboxes beside the mail icons, you can shift-click them to select all items between X and Y |
| 05:31.40 | Xinhuan | then hit "Open selected" or "return selected" |
| 05:31.47 | Tem | oh cool |
| 05:31.54 | Tem | so, just to be sure |
| 05:32.02 | Tem | Suppose I send a mail to my alt |
| 05:32.11 | Tem | I never log my alt and the mail bounces back to me after 30 days |
| 05:32.17 | Tem | can I return it? |
| 05:32.20 | Xinhuan | no |
| 05:32.26 | Tem | QQ that's what I wanted |
| 05:32.29 | Xinhuan | the only option you get is to delete mail |
| 05:32.44 | Xinhuan | i.e the ctrl-click option only appears on returnable mail |
| 05:32.55 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8 |
| 05:33.11 | Xinhuan | its far too tricky to do what mail forwarding addons used to do - retrieve X item from mail, determine where it landed in your bags, then mail it out |
| 05:33.23 | Xinhuan | when it was just 1 item pre patch 2.3, it was ok |
| 05:33.34 | Xinhuan | now its up to 12 items and these 12 items can stack on top of existing items |
| 05:33.41 | Xinhuan | its just too tricky |
| 05:33.51 | Tem | I wouldn't so much concern myself with finding where they landed |
| 05:33.58 | Xinhuan | and i removed mail forwarding from Postal, and CT_MailMod removed it too |
| 05:34.04 | Tem | as I would sending the same quantity that I pulled |
| 05:34.32 | Xinhuan | well if you pulled 2 living rubies from the mail and you already have 3 in your bags, it ends up being a stack of 5 in your bags |
| 05:34.39 | Tem | right |
| 05:34.41 | Xinhuan | that means you have to split that stack before mailing it |
| 05:34.53 | Xinhuan | pre 2.1, the item retrieved always was in its own bag slot |
| 05:34.58 | Tem | aaah |
| 05:35.04 | Tem | I forgot about that |
| 05:35.22 | Tem | well, did you have that feature before? |
| 05:35.33 | Tem | (after 2.1) |
| 05:35.41 | Xinhuan | its removed in 2.3 |
| 05:35.47 | Tem | it's no harder! |
| 05:35.57 | Tem | it's just 12 seperate |
| 05:36.02 | Tem | (well, up to) |
| 05:36.28 | Xinhuan | potentially tricky because you also have to take into account all sorts of error messages |
| 05:36.38 | Tem | such as? |
| 05:36.42 | Xinhuan | like "Internal Mail Error" "Bag Error" "Your bags are full" |
| 05:36.53 | Xinhuan | "You may not carry more than one of that item" |
| 05:37.14 | Xinhuan | just not feasible :) |
| 05:37.18 | Tem | I see |
| 05:37.23 | Tem | I hadn't considered that part |
| 05:38.05 | MentalPower | lua> 2^16 |
| 05:38.14 | Xinhuan | 65536 |
| 05:38.28 | MentalPower | you're not lua_bot! :P |
| 05:38.30 | MentalPower | thanks tho :) |
| 05:38.41 | Xinhuan | its probably lagging |
| 05:39.14 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 65536 |
| 05:39.31 | MentalPower | one minute, 4 secs |
| 05:39.40 | MentalPower | some lag :| |
| 05:39.50 | MentalPower | lua> true |
| 05:39.50 | lua_bot | MentalPower: true |
| 05:39.55 | MentalPower | much better |
| 05:44.25 | MentalPower | mikma: OH, MY EYES! |
| 05:44.40 | mikma | MentalPower: oh my brains... |
| 05:50.42 | AbsoRayne | Whats a good image upload site that wont rape my photo quality? |
| 05:51.01 | Xinhuan | photobucket? imageshack? |
| 05:51.20 | Xinhuan | and possibly many photo album sites findable via goodle |
| 05:51.20 | AbsoRayne | Photobucket compressed |
| 05:51.22 | Xinhuan | google |
| 05:51.59 | Xinhuan | i think CT_Mods has a SS upload thing as well |
| 05:52.25 | Xinhuan | they called it ctscreens i think |
| 05:55.18 | Cairenn | http://www.ctscreens.net/ |
| 05:56.53 | widgertick | Not actually an encyclopedia about WoW, mind you. |
| 05:57.02 | Cairenn | heheheh |
| 05:57.04 | Shirik | about the WoW community? |
| 05:57.06 | MentalPower | ok... |
| 05:57.08 | widgertick | Yes, Shirik. |
| 05:57.11 | widgertick | Access to Cairenn is convenient |
| 05:57.18 | Cairenn | lol |
| 05:57.24 | MentalPower | rofl! |
| 05:57.25 | widgertick | The monthly fee is very low ;) |
| 05:57.40 | Cairenn | hey now, I'm easy, but I'm not THAT cheap! |
| 05:57.50 | widgertick | I've seen photos of what you'll do for cookies! |
| 05:57.56 | Cairenn | ! |
| 05:58.02 | Shirik | how? |
| 05:58.03 | widgertick | You're practically at Lopeppeppy's beck-and-call! |
| 05:58.06 | Shirik | nobody can get a picture of Cairenn |
| 05:58.29 | kd3 | oh? |
| 05:58.36 | Cairenn | oh lord, here we go |
| 05:58.43 | widgertick | Revealing my sources would result in a swift death. |
| 05:59.01 | MentalPower | I have pictures of Cairenn |
| 05:59.06 | MentalPower | they're online too |
| 05:59.14 | Cairenn | >< |
| 06:00.06 | WobWork | AbsoRayne |
| 06:00.09 | WobWork | ~imagehosting |
| 06:00.10 | purl | it has been said that imagehosting is http://images.gammatester.com/ by the courtesy of cladhaire |
| 06:00.12 | *** kick/#WoWUIDev [MentalPower!n=progdog@ip68-109-67-190.oc.oc.cox.net] by widgertick (Sorry dude, ensuring continued access to aforementioned community encyclopedia without the use of cookies.) |
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| 06:00.26 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 06:00.30 | MentalPower | lol! |
| 06:00.31 | Cairenn | hahahhahahah |
| 06:00.50 | MentalPower | nice one widgertick :) |
| 06:00.52 | Sixen | Nm? |
| 06:00.53 | Sixen | Hm? |
| 06:00.57 | Sixen | Was Zoot the real Zoot> |
| 06:00.59 | widgertick | <3 |
| 06:01.02 | WobWork | yes? |
| 06:01.10 | Sixen | Mmmm. Making sure. |
| 06:01.10 | WobWork | we have no fake fizzles here |
| 06:01.15 | Sixen | Good, =). |
| 06:01.25 | Sixen | Need to make Rislyn and Slouken get on now. |
| 06:01.28 | widgertick | Wha huh? |
| 06:01.32 | widgertick | Zootfizzle was here and I missed it? =/ |
| 06:01.34 | Cairenn | slouken does some times |
| 06:01.34 | WobWork | Slouken comes on every now and again |
| 06:01.38 | Sixen | Ah. |
| 06:01.45 | mikma | surprise buttsecks! |
| 06:01.51 | Sixen | That's fun. |
| 06:02.05 | WobWork | Then it's not very surprising =P |
| 06:02.08 | Shirik | yeah widgertick you missed a fun time |
| 06:02.09 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:02.13 | Shirik | he tried to ban me and then he got owned in the face |
| 06:02.18 | widgertick | Heh, nub |
| 06:03.24 | mikma | i'd bang you every time possible |
| 06:03.59 | Sixen | Hm? How can I get a list of channels? |
| 06:04.01 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.13 | Shirik | uh, /list |
| 06:04.16 | Shirik | but probably a bad idea |
| 06:04.17 | MentalPower | Sixen: you really don't want to do that on freenode |
| 06:04.22 | Sixen | =o |
| 06:04.31 | MentalPower | its a really bad idea |
| 06:04.35 | Shirik | I know of people getting sendq kicked after doing a /list |
| 06:04.36 | Shirik | it's that bad |
| 06:04.37 | Sixen | Hehe, i'll trust you :P |
| 06:04.56 | Sixen | Wanted to know if there were like... WoWTech channels, etc. :(. |
| 06:05.10 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:05.10 | Shirik | Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again. |
| 06:05.24 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 06:07.22 | Shirik | here comes the list |
| 06:07.34 | Shirik | wow locked up nbs-irc for a sec |
| 06:07.53 | Shirik | 4199/4450 channels |
| 06:07.56 | Shirik | wtf why am I on kubrick? |
| 06:08.07 | kd3 | heh... any atlantans on? |
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| 06:08.20 | Sixen | I thought Atlantis is underwater? |
| 06:08.35 | WobWork | I thought it was in the Pegasus Galaxy |
| 06:08.39 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+o Shirik|AFK] by ChanServ |
| 06:08.41 | kd3 | I thought they were called "atlantians" |
| 06:08.42 | MentalPower | Shirik|AFK: why do you not like kubrick? |
| 06:08.46 | Sixen | :P |
| 06:08.49 | Shirik|AFK | MentalPower: Because I like calkins :P |
| 06:08.55 | AbsoRayne | What the fuckkkk |
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| 06:09.00 | AbsoRayne | even CTScreens raped the quality. |
| 06:09.11 | WobWork | AbsoRayne: use gammatesters |
| 06:09.13 | Shirik | MentalPower: Mostly just because of the IPv6 factor |
| 06:09.14 | MentalPower | AbsoRayne: try widgertick's suggestion |
| 06:09.24 | MentalPower | Shirik: ah, granted |
| 06:09.57 | Cairenn | AbsoRayne: you must have missed it the other night when I went off on someone for that expression - please do me a favour and don't use it, okay? it's one of the few I ask people not to use, I think I'm pretty reasonable about most stuff but that one really bothers me |
| 06:10.14 | AbsoRayne | R word? Sure, sorry. |
| 06:10.19 | Cairenn | thank you |
| 06:10.24 | AbsoRayne | Not a problem. :) |
| 06:10.46 | kd3 | anyway, the reason I ask is because this caught me offguard... they built a huge shopping center a few miles away from the airport a few (5ish?) years ago. |
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| 06:11.00 | Cairenn | evening Beladona, you're up late |
| 06:11.02 | kd3 | didn't know that they painted the logos of the anchors on top of the buildings as they're all in the flight path |
| 06:11.25 | kd3 | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.636667,-84.428056&ie=UTF8&ll=33.657835,-84.50381&spn=0.009877,0.022895&t=h&z=16 |
| 06:11.54 | AbsoRayne | So apparently. |
| 06:11.55 | Beladona | yeah |
| 06:12.03 | Beladona | babies don't keep normal schedules |
| 06:12.12 | AbsoRayne | Someone in my guild was in a Kara Run, and he took a Screenshot of Shade of Aran holding an Axe. |
| 06:12.13 | Shirik | babies keep great schedules |
| 06:12.16 | Shirik | wake up crying at 3 AM |
| 06:12.19 | Shirik | go to sleep at noon |
| 06:12.21 | AbsoRayne | And when they killed him, he dropped a green axe. |
| 06:12.23 | Shirik | it's like Cairenn's schedule |
| 06:13.01 | Cairenn | so how's the little one? |
| 06:13.16 | Shirik | I like how she doesn't even try to come back against that |
| 06:13.37 | Beladona | doing good. 5 pounds now |
| 06:13.38 | Shirik | yes, we need more pictures! |
| 06:13.48 | Beladona | yeah about that |
| 06:13.50 | Cairenn | that's great! |
| 06:14.26 | Beladona | its weird but it seems lime the only time I get to actually do anything on the comuter anymore is at work (other than right now) |
| 06:15.05 | Shirik | welcome to your life as a father |
| 06:15.23 | AbsoRayne | First time trying a pixel font, what do you guys think? http://images.gammatester.com/pics/92f9796817667d344eb46fa53a2f8299.png |
| 06:15.50 | Beladona | kinda nice actually |
| 06:16.28 | AbsoRayne | The SLCore font is really small, im trying to fix that... |
| 06:16.31 | Corrodias | what's a "pixel font"? |
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| 06:18.21 | Corrodias | what really makes me chuckle is when people try to sell fonts |
| 06:18.30 | AbsoRayne | Corrodias: Agreed |
| 06:18.37 | MentalPower | why? |
| 06:18.42 | MentalPower | I mean, why do you laugh? |
| 06:19.05 | AbsoRayne | Im not going to pay 50$ for a fontpack im only going to use maybe 2-3 things from. :/ |
| 06:19.15 | Shirik | ok, but some people will |
| 06:19.16 | Corrodias | because it's a hilarious idea. that's like... trying to sell water |
| 06:19.19 | Shirik | difference of opinion |
| 06:19.24 | Shirik | Corrodias: It's like trying to sell art |
| 06:19.26 | Shirik | or a computer program |
| 06:19.33 | MentalPower | or both in this case |
| 06:19.38 | Shirik | SOMEONE has to make it |
| 06:19.55 | Corrodias | program? no. art maybe, yet it's such a .. what's the word |
| 06:20.07 | Corrodias | petty thing, the shape of a letter |
| 06:20.31 | Corrodias | selling the shape of a letter is petty. people produce useful software for free, and others try to sell their shapes. |
| 06:20.44 | MentalPower | it is a program, kerning pairs is done programatically |
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| 06:21.41 | MentalPower | Corrodias: you try to make an equivalent of Arial Unicode MS, and tell me if you don't want to sell it :) |
| 06:22.01 | MentalPower | its a 15MB font, when zipped |
| 06:22.17 | MentalPower | has glyphs for almost every unicode character out there |
| 06:22.33 | Corrodias | really? i had no idea it was so large |
| 06:23.09 | MentalPower | besides, making a font is not an easy thing to do |
| 06:24.17 | duaiwe | fonts ARE basically forms of art. *shrug* highly utilitarian art, but ultimately art. |
| 06:24.41 | Corrodias | i concede that it may be. i'm not familiar with the process. although i suspect that it's making a -good- font that isn't easy. you can find thousands of uninteresting ones on the web. |
| 06:25.05 | Corrodias | well, maybe hundreds. i haven't gone looking in many years, so the actual count i cannot estimate |
| 06:25.32 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, you'd probably be right with thousands. but like anything else, sturgeon's law applies. |
| 06:25.46 | Corrodias | i take it that's not a law about fish |
| 06:26.08 | NightHawkTheSane | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon's_law |
| 06:26.13 | NightHawkTheSane | or, "90% of everything is crud." |
| 06:29.10 | Corrodias | hah |
| 06:31.55 | MentalPower | Corrodias: basically you have to draw every glyph in vector, then draw every accent, tilde, reverse accent, etc, etc variation (áäà ãâå), then come the ligatures (ïï) then kerning pairs, symbols, etc, etc |
| 06:31.59 | MentalPower | so its no small feat |
| 06:32.12 | MentalPower | it can take months of work to make a good font |
| 06:32.57 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 06:33.05 | Corrodias | i didn't know it was that involved |
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| 06:41.15 | Shirik | ~x de en Wer Bist Du |
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| 06:43.10 | Corrodias | ~x en he i test this function |
| 06:43.25 | Corrodias | aw... |
| 06:43.51 | Shirik | he? |
| 06:44.06 | Corrodias | -brew |
| 06:44.11 | Shirik | ah |
| 06:44.18 | Corrodias | not that i would be able to read it |
| 06:44.21 | Shirik | is that what they call it in hebrew? |
| 06:44.37 | Corrodias | i doubt it. let me ask my friend |
| 06:45.24 | Corrodias | he says `Ivrith, and i don't know whether the ` is supposed to be applied to the I |
| 06:45.40 | Corrodias | oh, nope, it's a weird sound |
| 06:46.26 | Corrodias | "although a lot of people just say Ivrit [modern Israeli Hebrew] or Ivris [Ashkenazi Hebrew]" |
| 06:47.25 | Shirik | ~x en iv test |
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| 07:00.28 | teenee | is there any special way that my frame is able to remember its position, automagically? been trying to get this whole anchor point thing, but now it seems to remember on its own, which is really annoying me, since i dont know why its doing it ... deleting the savedvariables dont seem to do much. |
| 07:00.59 | Corrodias | layout-cache.txt |
| 07:01.12 | Corrodias | i don't know what makes WoW save your frame's position in that, though |
| 07:01.23 | widgertick | ~x de en Vo ist mein bier |
| 07:01.36 | End | You want Wo |
| 07:01.37 | widgertick | I fail at German spelling. |
| 07:01.42 | widgertick | But the important part got across. |
| 07:02.18 | Beladona | teenee: change the name of the frame |
| 07:02.24 | Beladona | or delete the layout cache |
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| 07:02.53 | teenee | ahh, layou-cache.txt |
| 07:03.12 | widgertick | Or even easier, frame:SetUserPlaced(false) |
| 07:03.16 | widgertick | Log out, log back in. |
| 07:03.23 | widgertick | Or just reload your UI |
| 07:03.33 | teenee | is this some feature i can "rely" on? i'm having some issues understanding the anchor point thing, and if i could have wow do it for me, that would be nice. |
| 07:04.04 | Fisker- | YEEEEEEEEEES Mike-N-Go |
| 07:04.06 | Fisker- | Mikk |
| 07:04.07 | Fisker- | YEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 07:04.18 | Fisker- | someone bought the remaining shards and put them up for 42g |
| 07:04.27 | Fisker- | ~3 hours until it breaks lose |
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| 07:13.26 | Fisker- | http://i26.tinypic.com/236zdj.jpg <-i pwnt our server |
| 07:13.57 | leethal | ouch |
| 07:14.28 | kd3 | 42g? |
| 07:14.29 | kd3 | nuts |
| 07:14.47 | leethal | bought them all and re-sold 'em? |
| 07:14.51 | Corrodias | did i tell you how much i enjoy not playing WoW? |
| 07:15.08 | Corrodias | it's a lot. seeing things like that increases it. |
| 07:15.32 | kd3 | meh. the free market is fun |
| 07:15.38 | kd3 | that's how I made most of my gold at 60 |
| 07:16.06 | leethal | yeah, me too, re-sold white vendor patterns mostly |
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| 07:16.42 | Fisker- | heh leethal that isn't even me |
| 07:16.53 | Fisker- | i put up like 200 shards for 45g |
| 07:17.04 | Fisker- | so someone underbid me with 42g |
| 07:17.07 | leftbracket | the best part for other people is when they start putting things up for 2% less, so even if you buy it and resell they're making good profit and your margin is incredibly low, possibly even negative |
| 07:17.20 | Fisker- | but the important thing is that pretty much doubled the marketprice :D |
| 07:17.39 | leethal | where did you get 200 shards? GB ninjaing? =P |
| 07:17.39 | Shirik | ~x de en Eisbrecher |
| 07:17.53 | Fisker- | leethal i made them |
| 07:18.05 | Fisker- | also bought some of them |
| 07:18.13 | Fisker- | cost me like 3500g |
| 07:18.30 | leethal | that's a cute auction addon there btw, that displays the average price in percent. Link0r? |
| 07:18.42 | Fisker- | it's auctioneer |
| 07:18.49 | kd3 | that's auc-adv |
| 07:18.52 | kd3 | bah, slow |
| 07:19.06 | leethal | oh, haven't used it for a while, can't recall it having that feature last time I tried it |
| 07:19.07 | Fisker- | i would've destroyed me if you were trying to tell classic from avd |
| 07:19.09 | Fisker- | adv* |
| 07:19.15 | Fisker- | destroyed you* |
| 07:19.25 | Fisker- | need to enable compactui as well i think |
| 07:20.21 | leethal | do I see a hordie with something that looks like a dorf mount in his bag? |
| 07:20.26 | leethal | oh the things I don't know 'bout this game >< |
| 07:20.31 | kd3 | that's the brewfest mount |
| 07:21.13 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.25 | leethal | ah right |
| 07:22.19 | Fisker- | it was funny btw |
| 07:22.35 | Fisker- | a couple of hours ago some guildies called it mad and said i wouldn't succeed |
| 07:22.39 | Fisker- | now they're calling me a jerk :D |
| 07:23.18 | widgertick | Ahh, guildies ;) |
| 07:23.23 | Fisker- | They don't seem to grasp the fact that demand will skyrocket and it'll happen anyways :D |
| 07:23.23 | leethal | I bet researchers would love this, it's kind of interesting to see economy in action like this |
| 07:23.55 | Corrodias | why would demand skyrocket? |
| 07:24.02 | Corrodias | are there new enchantments coming out soon? |
| 07:24.13 | Corrodias | or is s4 coming? |
| 07:24.28 | Fisker- | badge vendor launching on our realm soon |
| 07:24.42 | Fisker- | people are going to need new enchants |
| 07:26.56 | End | hmm, apparently java doesn't understand ChatFrame1:AddMessage() |
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| 07:34.54 | widgertick | Howl's Moving Castle = awesome |
| 07:35.29 | kd3 | hai |
| 07:38.15 | kd3 | and heh... woo for sat imagery figuring out which ships cut the undersea cables in the mediterranean back in feb |
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| 08:06.42 | Shirik|zZz | ns identify |
| 08:08.54 | Fisker- | can't you write the password as well? :( |
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| 08:35.48 | Fisker- | yay Mike-N-Go |
| 08:35.49 | Fisker- | damnit |
| 08:35.51 | Fisker- | yay Mikk |
| 08:35.52 | Fisker- | one down |
| 08:35.56 | Fisker- | a couple of 100's to go |
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| 09:20.40 | reqol | how do you use the new addons tab in the interface options? |
| 09:24.22 | reqol | I'm guessing it's added by ace or something |
| 09:24.56 | reqol | heh, I figured, I know blizzard doesn't support addons so I was surprised to find it there. derp! : ( |
| 09:27.42 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 09:28.39 | Cairenn | Remember the expression used to explain "assume" ? |
| 09:29.20 | reqol | you wouldn't : ( |
| 09:29.22 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1 |
| 09:29.22 | Cairenn | * The In-game Interface Options screen is being revamped and the new architecture should allow AddOn authors to modify its contents without the taint issues presented by the current system. Additionally this system will contain an area for AddOn authors to present their own configuration options. Authors interested in this feature should be sure to experiment on the PTRs before patch 2.4 is released so that any issues can be surfaced and di |
| 09:29.22 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43106843945&sid=1#156 |
| 09:29.23 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=44930053120&sid=1#294 |
| 09:29.41 | reqol | yay! |
| 09:29.41 | Drundia | Slouken said that... yesexactly that. |
| 09:29.45 | reqol | <3 slouken |
| 09:29.50 | reqol | and zoot |
| 09:29.53 | Drundia | You are way faster than me |
| 09:29.59 | Cairenn | now, about that "assume" thing? |
| 09:30.24 | reqol | thanks for the info, Cairenn! : D |
| 09:30.29 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
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| 09:42.05 | AbsoRayne | What the hell...I cant stop playing with my color wheel on my UI now :/ |
| 09:42.41 | AbsoRayne | WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 09:45.34 | AbsoRayne | God im bored. -_- |
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| 09:52.08 | reqol | is there a windows equivalent of grep? |
| 09:53.56 | leethal | install ruby and get rak \o/ |
| 09:59.01 | cladhaire | or install the gnu windows utils |
| 09:59.06 | cladhaire | which would maek a hell of a lot more sense :P |
| 10:09.06 | reqol | does anyone know of something I can look at to try to get an understanding of this new addon menu? I'm not advanced : ( |
| 10:09.43 | Drundia | get cygwin |
| 10:10.09 | zenzio | if you mean the "Addons" tab in the interface options screen, MSBT has a very simple one |
| 10:10.23 | zenzio | (funtionally simple... don't know how hard it is to locate in the code) |
| 10:11.01 | reqol | I have MSBT installed and don't see the panel : ( |
| 10:11.11 | cladhaire | reqol: you can read the forum posts that were already linked to you. |
| 10:11.16 | zenzio | what version? |
| 10:11.51 | reqol | cladhaire: I looked at what zootfizzle posted, but I'll scroll down and check the next few pages, too. thanks |
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| 10:21.20 | reqol | aye, I found something helpful enough. I'm sorry, I should have looked a bit more closely. |
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| 10:23.47 | widgertick | Everytime I look at my combat log and see "What happened to me?" I laugh. |
| 10:24.05 | Fisker- | if i put masterloot on with epic treshold it's only epic items i assign via masterloot right? |
| 10:24.10 | widgertick | It's such an appropriate question yet not in anyway relevant to WoW. |
| 10:24.30 | reqol | Fisker-: epics and higher, yes. |
| 10:27.04 | Fisker- | awsum reqol |
| 10:32.28 | AbsoRayne | EJ Forums are mega slow... |
| 10:39.36 | JoshBorke | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=28#546 <-- no next blizz post link :-( |
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| 10:53.07 | ^Jester^ | any of the cosmosui team about ? |
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| 11:00.28 | JoshBorke | ^Jester^: i would just ask your question |
| 11:07.29 | widgertick | ~asktoask |
| 11:07.29 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 11:39.52 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:39.59 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.10 | Cairenn | I recently uploaded an addon to your site and I noticed that when you try to search for an addon, the search engine only looks at the title of the addon. I am suggesting if you could, in a near future, include tags in the search engine. That is, when you upload an addon, have a field for search tags, limited or not limited. Example, for my addon which is a bosscast bar which main purpose is aiding players interrupt boss casting, |
| 11:40.17 | Cairenn | the tags could be: "bosscast, casting, ros, reliquary". If someone searchs for any of those tags, my addon will be in the search list. This is surely more intuitive and will help users of this site, find the addon they want easier since the search results will be always more populated and accurate. |
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| 11:40.26 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:40.26 | Cairenn | Raex |
| 11:40.36 | Cairenn | Hi Raex, |
| 11:40.36 | Cairenn | You mean like the description field check box on the find tab? |
| 11:41.45 | zenzio | lol |
| 11:42.08 | Snago | Description ~= tags |
| 11:42.20 | zenzio | no, but tags are stupid half the time |
| 11:42.29 | zenzio | because authors are too generous when selecting them |
| 11:42.31 | widgertick | But if you put the tags in your description, and search for the tags, then your addon will be a result. |
| 11:42.47 | JoshBorke | widgertick: that kind of forward thinking logic has no place on the interwebs! |
| 11:42.53 | widgertick | OMG sorry |
| 11:43.01 | widgertick | i can haz tags |
| 11:43.04 | widgertick | ?! |
| 11:43.08 | JoshBorke | much better |
| 11:43.23 | zenzio | I maed you a tag... but I eated it |
| 11:44.30 | JoshBorke | wtb comments on teh same page as the description again :-( |
| 11:44.40 | JoshBorke | btw, i like the new wowi interface with the site in the background, that's cool |
| 11:46.14 | Snago | wtb preview on addon descripton |
| 11:46.28 | Snago | +i |
| 11:47.08 | JoshBorke | +1 |
| 11:47.57 | widgertick | Snago: Your useful suggestion is hereby dismissed out of hand, because we could not ridicule it. |
| 11:48.05 | widgertick | Thanks though ;) |
| 11:49.33 | JoshBorke | work time bye |
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| 12:01.22 | Matrix110 | stupid question is the Updated behind addons based on my cookies or on the date the addon got updated |
| 12:01.41 | Matrix110 | nvm |
| 12:01.46 | Matrix110 | i should hover over the updated :D |
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| 12:13.27 | bleeter | looks like the oceanics have all crashed again |
| 12:23.36 | Drundia | poor oceanics, blizzard hates you it seems. |
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| 12:48.23 | bleeter | haha, my brother's arrived for his holiday with a most excellent present for me. Withdrawn from shop floors due to legal threats from friends of Tom Cruise |
| 12:48.39 | bleeter | a rather nice hoodie, stylised pic of L Ron on it, with 'GIVE ME ALL YOUR MONEY' written on it |
| 12:48.55 | bleeter | bollocks, wrong # |
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| 13:04.37 | bleeter | oO FF3B5 is reporting wowui as a possible attack site? |
| 13:04.49 | bleeter | er |
| 13:04.54 | bleeter | wow.incgamers |
| 13:05.01 | bleeter | I never get their name 'right' |
| 13:05.15 | Elkano | intelligent program I'd say ;) |
| 13:06.52 | bleeter | I'd speak my mind, but I'm afraid I'd prolly have to shoot myself |
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| 13:25.40 | Maldivia | bleeter: it's flagged as bad by Google :) |
| 13:26.16 | sag_ich_nicht | where's cogwheel? |
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| 13:28.26 | cladhaire | sag_ich_nicht: its only 6am for him... |
| 13:28.29 | cladhaire | why would he be here? |
| 13:29.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i dunno |
| 13:29.35 | sag_ich_nicht | i just wanted to bug him about his wonky death reset code in macrosequence |
| 13:29.42 | cladhaire | heh |
| 13:29.50 | sag_ich_nicht | (which causes a taint error when you die) |
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| 14:10.48 | Saint-N | clad causes taint errors which result in death? |
| 14:11.06 | cladhaire | sweet |
| 14:11.09 | cladhaire | thats hardcore |
| 14:13.44 | Drundia | more addons causing death please |
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| 14:24.40 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzelezz. |
| 14:25.32 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 14:25.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=23Te7QAsH6w |
| 14:25.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | and now i go off to school |
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| 14:29.26 | ^Jester^ | is the CosmosUI webpage offline ? |
| 14:30.13 | amro | ^Jester^: seems to be |
| 14:30.17 | ralfWORK | any mac users here? |
| 14:30.39 | dylanm | < |
| 14:30.43 | ralfWORK | cool |
| 14:30.55 | ralfWORK | you ever have your keybindings just dissapear on you, in osx? |
| 14:31.02 | ralfWORK | like F8-F12 |
| 14:31.04 | dylanm | Totally. Happens all the time. |
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| 14:31.20 | ralfWORK | I can't figure out if it's WoW related or not |
| 14:31.31 | dylanm | It only happens if WoW runs so I imagine so. |
| 14:31.43 | ralfWORK | naw, for me even if WoW isn't running |
| 14:31.45 | ralfWORK | I'm hosed |
| 14:32.45 | dylanm | Odd. |
| 14:32.49 | ralfWORK | yea |
| 14:32.55 | ralfWORK | and it just kinda happens from time to time |
| 14:33.00 | dylanm | They said that if you unbind them in-game the problems ought to go away but that has not been my experience. |
| 14:33.11 | ralfWORK | hmm ok |
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| 14:33.52 | dylanm | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5591270124&sid=1 |
| 14:33.57 | amro | Dolby: hey, did you get my message? |
| 14:34.35 | ralfWORK | wtffail |
| 14:34.54 | ralfWORK | "hey it's still broken" |
| 14:35.01 | ralfWORK | *crickets chirping* |
| 14:35.13 | dylanm | Flash powder! |
| 14:37.14 | dylanm | Annnnnd Nazjatar just went down. |
| 14:37.20 | dylanm | It's going to take hours for anyone to notice. |
| 14:37.29 | ralfWORK | realm? |
| 14:37.32 | Fisker- | who's nazjatar? |
| 14:37.42 | ralfWORK | what did your badge vendor just pop? lol |
| 14:38.10 | magdain | 92% on ours and the server went down like 2 hours ago. zzz |
| 14:38.22 | ralfWORK | ours opened saturday 4:00pm |
| 14:38.29 | ralfWORK | I made about 200g in enchanting tips :P |
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| 14:41.01 | bleeter | kd3: /popcorn time in CSF |
| 14:41.09 | Lopeppeppy | Really, what's the QQ today? |
| 14:41.20 | ralfWORK | hmm |
| 14:41.21 | bleeter | realms going down, complaints to BBB |
| 14:41.26 | ralfWORK | is there really alot of QQ there? |
| 14:41.26 | ralfWORK | ahh |
| 14:41.36 | bleeter | the new one for today, though, is the folks telling them about the TOS and server accessability clause |
| 14:41.41 | bleeter | are all apparently paid trolls |
| 14:41.45 | bleeter | paid for by blizz |
| 14:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah yeah, whimper whine. Go mow your lawn. |
| 14:42.27 | ralfWORK | I mowed it this weekend :D |
| 14:42.32 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: i don't have a lawn. thanks for bringing it up. jerk |
| 14:42.45 | magdain | Damn. Where can I apply for that job? |
| 14:42.51 | magdain | ..Paid forum trolling, not lawn mowing. |
| 14:43.15 | ralfWORK | oh I was gonna say |
| 14:43.21 | ralfWORK | see above; I mow my own lawn |
| 14:43.25 | ralfWORK | go back to mexico |
| 14:44.18 | bleeter | I'd go mow my lawn, 'cept I don't think the neighbours would appreciate it at 00:45 ;) |
| 14:44.24 | ralfWORK | ahahaahah |
| 14:44.37 | Lopeppeppy | Josh_Borke, I'm not a jerk I'm a bitch. :) I don't have a lawn either, but the phrase needn't be taken literally... play solitaire, take a shower, do your laundry, play with your cat/dog/children/spouse/rubber love doll. |
| 14:44.51 | Hirsute-Away | That's the best reason to do it, unless you like your neighbors. |
| 14:44.52 | bleeter | I'd probably mow down several wallabies and possums too |
| 14:45.08 | Lopeppeppy | That just means stew, bleeter. |
| 14:45.14 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 14:45.47 | bleeter | THey're OK. I'd definately not want to upset the lady over the back fence. She's been crying for days 'coz all her kids have gone and joined the scientologists and are being rather rude to her (from what I can make out) |
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| 14:46.18 | Hirsute-Away | Especially if you explain to them, when they complain, that the government has genetically modified the grass to release mind-control gas when mowed, but it requires sunlight to work, so you're only safe if you mow a few hours after the sun goes down. |
| 14:46.33 | Wobin | http://youtube.com/watch?v=IUZxW9Rqoog&feature=related |
| 14:46.39 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: possums aren't that great an eating meat. Too much eucalyptus in their food. |
| 14:46.56 | ralfWORK | bleeter: ohhh yea that's not good. Tell her Xenu told you it was ok to mow your lawn in the middle of the night |
| 14:46.58 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, the possums up here eat very different things, they do okay in stews. |
| 14:47.00 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: thanks, all my laundry is clean, i'm allergic to cats, my dog died, i have no children nor a spouse and there's a hole in my rubber love doll. jerk |
| 14:47.04 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: given the semi-destruction of the fruit trees this year, though, I suspect the wallabies would be rather tasty. |
| 14:47.15 | Josh_Borke | Lopeppeppy: way to make my day worse than it already was |
| 14:47.25 | bleeter | Lopeppeppy: you've got opossums, not possums ;) |
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| 14:48.03 | Josh_Borke | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/surprise-buttsecks.jpg <-- from mikma SFW |
| 14:48.45 | ralfWORK | hahahaha nice |
| 14:50.17 | Lopeppeppy | Josh_Borke, I suggest a padded room for your sorrows then. *nod* |
| 14:50.29 | Josh_Borke | got any handy? |
| 14:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | bleeter, as far as I can tell I have scrawny nasty scurvy looking rodent things that waddle into the road to be hit by teenage drunk drivers and cause traffic mayhem. Stew meat, utterly. :) |
| 14:51.03 | Lopeppeppy | Josh_Borke, check in with the Norman Bates Motel, they keep their cellar well-stocked. |
| 14:51.26 | Josh_Borke | a cellar stocked with padded rooms, that is quite the interesting concept |
| 14:52.03 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has a home decorating tragedy. |
| 14:56.26 | Josh_Borke | wtb multi-quote option for wowi |
| 14:56.57 | zenzelezz | multi-quote? |
| 14:57.06 | Josh_Borke | aye, you can select multiple posts to quote from |
| 14:57.40 | zenzelezz | can't you just copy+paste and write the [quote][/quote] yourself? Sure it'd be easier with a feature, but still :-) |
| 14:58.01 | Josh_Borke | no, i obviously hit reply to the first one and copied the text then went back and replied to the second one :-P |
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| 15:02.56 | Wulfos | hi there ^^ i have another problem *g* ... when i get event messages from CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM .. how can i get the "global string", f.e. ERR_INVITE_PLAYER_S ? (so the playername in the arg1 is replaces by %s (urg, confusing if english isnt your mother language xD) |
| 15:04.14 | Xinhuan | just get it? |
| 15:04.18 | Xinhuan | ERR_INVITE_PLAYER_S |
| 15:04.22 | Josh_Borke | um, string.match(arg1, string.format(ERR_INVITE_PLAYER_S, UnitName("player"))) |
| 15:04.40 | Wulfos | yes.. the problem i have is .. i dont know the player in this message ... ^^ |
| 15:05.00 | Xinhuan | you can alternatively replace do |
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| 15:05.11 | Wulfos | how... im trying since hours <.<' |
| 15:05.21 | Wulfos | for hours (damn english ^^) |
| 15:05.45 | Xinhuan | local temp = gsub(ERR_INVITE_PLAYER_S, "%%s", "(.-)") local player = string.match(arg1, temp) |
| 15:06.14 | Xinhuan | or maybe its (.*) |
| 15:06.18 | Xinhuan | rather than (.-) |
| 15:06.32 | Drundia | yes i think in that case it should be (.*) |
| 15:07.01 | Wulfos | (.*) .. i dint find something in the manual about this... so thanks a lot, i think you helped me much =D |
| 15:07.07 | Drundia | erhm, what were its parameters? |
| 15:07.21 | Drundia | text, replacement, pattern? |
| 15:07.55 | Xinhuan | gsub(string, searchpattern, replacestring or replacefunction) basically |
| 15:08.23 | Atriace | I'm pulling a mind-blank. What do you call a real mod contrasted to compilation? I used to see a name for this a year ago. |
| 15:08.44 | Drundia | oh, you create pattern to read that text back as i understand |
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| 15:09.04 | Xinhuan | "a real mod" is an addon. "a compilation" is somebody downloading 20 addons together, zipping all 20 up as a package. |
| 15:09.36 | Xinhuan | so, a compilation is just a bunch of addons packaged together for the convenience of downloaders |
| 15:10.15 | Atriace | Well... yeah I know what a compilation is. I meant.... kinda like a "vanilla" addon vs. .... something. |
| 15:10.15 | mikma | http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/theincrediblehulk/ *WHEEEE* |
| 15:10.49 | p3lim | wutwut? |
| 15:11.11 | mikma | in the butt |
| 15:11.52 | Lopeppeppy | Like the last one didn't suck enough. |
| 15:12.22 | Atriace | Why would they restart the story, and with a different actor? |
| 15:12.57 | mikma | i don't care, i'm a fan anyway |
| 15:13.04 | Saint-N | they're trying to make it more to the comic and less suckage |
| 15:13.46 | Saint-N | and at least this has a villan |
| 15:13.51 | Saint-N | instead of the us army ;) |
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| 15:22.13 | Wulfos | hm ^^ something cant be right ... xD all my system messages are blocked now, but i just wanted to block 4 ... here is the source http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85753 perhaps you know what im doing wrong? .. so confusing :(( |
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| 15:30.19 | amro | there's a gnome stalking me |
| 15:30.45 | Lopeppeppy | Of course there is. |
| 15:30.52 | amro | does ignore work against duels etc? |
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| 15:31.11 | Drundia | it should |
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| 15:33.22 | p3lim | lua> %H |
| 15:33.23 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
| 15:33.27 | p3lim | bleh |
| 15:35.06 | p3lim | lua> string.time(%H..":"..%M) |
| 15:35.06 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
| 15:35.10 | p3lim | :< |
| 15:35.14 | mikma | amro: /run UIParent:UnregisterEvent("DUEL_REQUESTED") |
| 15:37.17 | Cide | p3lim: learning lua is easier |
| 15:37.28 | p3lim | know |
| 15:37.29 | Cide | than trying to figure it out by spamming the channel |
| 15:37.37 | p3lim | im shit :) |
| 15:38.49 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 15:39.38 | dylanm | lua> os.date"%I:%M" |
| 15:39.38 | lua_bot | dylanm: 04:39 |
| 15:39.56 | nevcairiel | now you use the crazy syntax :P |
| 15:40.20 | Drundia | why don't people like parenthesis? |
| 15:41.11 | amro | tired of lisp, maybe |
| 15:42.13 | dylanm | Can't get tired of Lisp. |
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| 15:42.56 | dylanm | And I was in a hurry :p |
| 15:42.59 | p3lim | im dumb -.- |
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| 15:43.34 | End | The good place to exclude parenthesis is places like L"Look, I'm localized ma!" |
| 15:43.37 | p3lim | i was looking at that like a few min ago :p |
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| 15:45.26 | Shirik | Strange question, does WoW clear the OnEvent script if no events are registered? |
| 15:45.57 | Cide | no |
| 15:46.14 | Shirik | This seems odd: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=88590&posted=1#post88590 |
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| 15:47.16 | Cide | at least I don't think it does... |
| 15:47.33 | Cide | I am 99% sure it doesn't |
| 15:47.49 | nevcairiel | that would be crazy behaviour |
| 15:47.56 | nevcairiel | A XML defined OnEvent script is present too |
| 15:47.57 | nevcairiel | and all |
| 15:48.28 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 15:48.40 | Shirik | that was someone else |
| 15:48.54 | nevcairiel | not refering to that code |
| 15:49.07 | nevcairiel | but a XML defined OnEvent script is defined before the events are actually registered |
| 15:49.11 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:49.39 | dylanm | Yeah that looks like it should work. |
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| 16:01.15 | Shirik | omfg another 58% overheal night |
| 16:01.22 | Shirik | I'm going to go kill myself |
| 16:02.33 | Shirik | lmao! And I tied our MT on Archimonde heals |
| 16:02.38 | Shirik | that's pretty impressive |
| 16:02.58 | Lopeppeppy | Not having seen the Archimonde fight... um... the MT heals as much as a healer? |
| 16:03.05 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:03.08 | nevcairiel | only as shirik |
| 16:03.14 | Shirik | I'm not actually sure how he did that |
| 16:03.17 | Shirik | 3 healers lost to him |
| 16:03.26 | nevcairiel | On Illidan thats normal |
| 16:03.28 | Shirik | I mean I know I'm throwing out a lot of PoMs |
| 16:03.30 | nevcairiel | but on Archimonde? |
| 16:03.32 | Shirik | but still, wtf? |
| 16:03.42 | magdain | really bad druids and or 15 priests/shamans is about the only way |
| 16:04.20 | Shirik | I mean |
| 16:04.24 | Shirik | one of the priests lost to him by 30k |
| 16:04.31 | Shirik | which is 60% of the MT's healing done |
| 16:04.39 | Shirik | er, 30% |
| 16:05.45 | Shirik | and yes somehow I'm #3 on the charts |
| 16:06.04 | Shirik | and the only other thing we did was RoS and the only meaningful part of the fight that we did was phase 1 in which there is no healing |
| 16:06.06 | Shirik | so..... |
| 16:07.12 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. |
| 16:07.20 | Shirik | hm |
| 16:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple suck. *nod* |
| 16:08.14 | Shirik | Greater Heal: Total 901,987 (55%) Avg: 6106, Max: 12023 Overheal %: 79 % |
| 16:08.16 | Shirik | lol. |
| 16:08.39 | Lopeppeppy | Take one more DPS, one less healer? |
| 16:08.41 | Shirik | something is so busted with this report. That's from trash mobs, and the only way I'm going to heal for 12k is RoS |
| 16:09.12 | Lopeppeppy | The reports are notoriously bad since 2.4 |
| 16:09.21 | nevcairiel | Shirik: warlock maybe? |
| 16:09.28 | Shirik | I wouldn't hit them that hard |
| 16:09.35 | Shirik | about 9k non-crit |
| 16:09.37 | nevcairiel | i can do 13k crits on warlocks, not a priest though |
| 16:09.38 | Shirik | I have 15k crits in there |
| 16:09.43 | Shirik | no that was non-crit max |
| 16:09.49 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 16:09.59 | nevcairiel | you sure? :P |
| 16:10.09 | Shirik | yes because it says under crit max 15k :P |
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| 16:24.32 | amro | bleeter: ping |
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| 16:50.53 | cncfanatics | hello everyone |
| 16:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | Morning. |
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| 17:01.12 | zenzelezz | hm, people linking The Twin Blades of Azzinoth in trade... >.< |
| 17:01.48 | nevcairiel | yeah there is a spell you can link that unlocks the blades |
| 17:02.26 | ralfWORK | I don't really know why people would link that in trade |
| 17:02.31 | ralfWORK | Kroll Blade I understand |
| 17:02.36 | ralfWORK | twin blades? I don't get |
| 17:03.40 | Shirik | hm, what spell? |
| 17:04.09 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=22990 |
| 17:04.31 | Shirik | ah, heh |
| 17:04.33 | nevcairiel | i dont think GMs like you doing that, though |
| 17:04.57 | ralfWORK | hmm weird |
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| 17:05.45 | Shirik | anybody know what <clinit> is? : |
| 17:05.55 | Shirik | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no nuSmv in java.library.path |
| 17:05.56 | ralfWORK | how come it looks uhm |
| 17:06.04 | Shirik | at ltlv.NuSmvChecker.<clinit> |
| 17:06.12 | ralfWORK | idk looks weird in wowhead |
| 17:06.19 | Industrial | Shirik: radioactive cleaning product? |
| 17:06.23 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 17:06.28 | ralfWORK | cause it's the artifact version |
| 17:07.20 | Industrial | FIZZ, AND THE DIRT IS GONE (but so is your counter) |
| 17:07.47 | Shirik | omg I love visual studio |
| 17:07.59 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\se300\src\nusmv.cpp(256) : warning C4804: '<' : unsafe use of type 'bool' in operation |
| 17:08.06 | Shirik | for this: while (count < lowercaseError?1:2) |
| 17:08.14 | Shirik | Would gcc have warned you about that? I THINK NOT! |
| 17:08.32 | Industrial | visual studio is a compiler? |
| 17:08.44 | ralfWORK | it's an OS |
| 17:08.49 | ralfWORK | like emacs |
| 17:08.49 | Industrial | ha. |
| 17:08.50 | Shirik | eh |
| 17:08.53 | Shirik | well it's _MSC_VER |
| 17:08.59 | Shirik | I don't really know what MSC stands for though |
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| 17:09.08 | Shirik | so I call it the Visual Studio compiler |
| 17:09.19 | zenzelezz | Shirik just groups the VC++ compiler, VC++ debugger and the VS IDE under the name "VS" |
| 17:09.44 | Shirik | doesn't change the fact that a microsoft product > gcc |
| 17:10.11 | nevcairiel | if you consider more warnings "superior" |
| 17:10.23 | nevcairiel | the vc compiler has its own "standard" |
| 17:10.31 | zenzelezz | not really |
| 17:10.31 | Shirik | I do when it's a warning that would have broken my program :P |
| 17:10.40 | Shirik | er, mistake |
| 17:10.49 | zenzelezz | the VC++ compiler, since version 7 or 7.1 has been fairly standards compliant |
| 17:10.58 | Industrial | i wonder if microsoft has a standard for having standards |
| 17:11.04 | Shirik | and yeah, VC++6 standards was crap, but this new one is pretty good |
| 17:11.04 | ralfWORK | blasphemy |
| 17:11.12 | Shirik | it even tells you when it's breaking standards |
| 17:11.19 | Shirik | there's a warning for it (and a way to disable it) |
| 17:11.27 | Shirik | I believe it's /Za ? |
| 17:11.39 | Industrial | do it like this or you wont be Microsoft (r) Compatible (r)! |
| 17:11.42 | nevcairiel | whats the latest acknowledged C++ standard? |
| 17:11.49 | Shirik | blah Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Users\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\SE300\nusmv.dll: The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Please see the application event log for more detail |
| 17:11.59 | Shirik | I give up for right now, screw vista, I need to get ready for class. |
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| 17:13.02 | nevcairiel | i bet there is something newer then ANSI C++ from '96? |
| 17:15.14 | Shirik | nevcairiel: C++0x is the latest I've heard of but I don't think that's approved yet |
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| 17:16.03 | Shirik|AFK | Ah yes, C++03 is the latest approved |
| 17:16.37 | zenzelezz | I really hope they give native threads in the next standard |
| 17:16.39 | Shirik|AFK | "The ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG21 C++ Standards Committee aims to introduce the new standard in 2009 (hence the standard that is today called C++0x will become C++09) which means that the document must be ready for ratification of the member states of ISO in 2008. To be able to finish on schedule, the Committee decided to focus its efforts on the solutions introduced up until 2006 and ignore newer proposals." |
| 17:18.07 | Polarina | And restrict pointers. |
| 17:18.58 | zenzelezz | restrict how? |
| 17:19.14 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Want me to give you an example? |
| 17:19.28 | zenzelezz | or simply explain, either will do |
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| 17:19.56 | Atriace | aha! I got the word I was looking for: "standalone" addon |
| 17:21.32 | Shirik|AFK | restrict pointers? |
| 17:21.39 | Shirik|AFK | C++ already adds a lot of type safety over C |
| 17:21.42 | Shirik|AFK | not quite sure what else you want |
| 17:21.52 | Polarina | zenzelezz: int foo(int *x, int *y) { |
| 17:21.52 | Polarina | zenzelezz: *x = 1; *y = 2; |
| 17:21.52 | Polarina | zenzelezz: return *x; // Could you optimise this somehow? |
| 17:21.52 | Polarina | zenzelezz: } |
| 17:22.15 | Shirik|AFK | any intelligent compiler would adjust it so that it's return 1; |
| 17:22.20 | Cide | felt like typing that on one line? |
| 17:22.24 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: That's a dump compiler! |
| 17:22.34 | Shirik|AFK | why would that be dumb? |
| 17:22.34 | Cide | s/felt/didn't feel/ |
| 17:22.52 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: If 'y' points to the same location as 'x' does, what happens? |
| 17:23.12 | Shirik|AFK | hm, ok, true. So it wouldn't do that |
| 17:23.36 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: So it can't optimize it out. What a pitty. :( |
| 17:23.37 | zenzelezz | and what is a "restrict pointer" or how do you restrict a pointer? |
| 17:23.45 | Shirik|AFK | and yes, what is "restrict a pointer" |
| 17:23.47 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: So restrict pointers solve that. |
| 17:24.28 | Cide | you've given an example of an issue |
| 17:24.29 | Polarina | int foo(int *restrict x, int *restrict y) // Now, it's undefined behaviour if 'x' and 'y' alias, thus the compiler can implicitly have the function return 1. |
| 17:24.40 | Shirik|AFK | I don't see the benefit |
| 17:24.47 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: Optimizations! |
| 17:24.55 | Shirik|AFK | surely if that is frequent in your program, the programmer needs to be more intelligent, not the compiler |
| 17:25.01 | Shirik|AFK | The benefit is tiny |
| 17:25.11 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: Because that's an minimal example. |
| 17:25.14 | Shirik|AFK | big deal, we can't return 1 |
| 17:25.32 | zenzelezz | no offense Polarina, but (in my opinion) you should more often start by explaining what you mean rather than give an example and letting us guess. Some of us aren't all that bright |
| 17:25.52 | Polarina | zenzelezz: Not sure how to explain it. |
| 17:25.59 | Shirik|AFK | I still don't see the benefit, the optimization benefit that would grant is minimal at best, and only in extreme circumstances |
| 17:26.14 | Shirik|AFK | yes, I am aware that's a minimal example. I don't see a better example that would justify its use, though. |
| 17:27.38 | Polarina | Let me find something, a moment please. |
| 17:27.43 | Shirik|AFK | ah yes! C++0x is guaranteeing that NULL is defined as 0 finally |
| 17:27.49 | Shirik|AFK | instead of ((void*)0) |
| 17:28.10 | Atriace | Is there a way to do <Script file="X"/> in Lua? |
| 17:28.11 | Saint-N | nerds! |
| 17:28.19 | Shirik|AFK | and that there's a new type, nullptr? o.o |
| 17:28.21 | Shirik|AFK | that's interesting |
| 17:28.44 | Shirik|AFK | Atriace: not exactly, why? |
| 17:28.48 | Shirik|AFK | you shouldn't need to |
| 17:28.59 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK, zenzelezz: A good explanation: http://www.cellperformance.com/mike_acton/2006/05/demystifying_the_restrict_keyw.html |
| 17:29.03 | Atriace | Shirik|AFK: I like to load the script on after testing a condition. |
| 17:29.09 | Atriace | only* |
| 17:29.15 | zenzelezz | Polarina: thanks, I'll have a read =) |
| 17:29.19 | nevcairiel | nullptr is probably for direct pointer comparison so you dont have to cast it to a pointer :P |
| 17:30.42 | amro | nullptr is to avoid ambiguity, since NULL could also be an int |
| 17:30.45 | Shirik|AFK | right |
| 17:30.50 | nevcairiel | i dont really see the pressing need of a restrict keyword |
| 17:30.57 | Shirik|AFK | NULL _IS_ an int |
| 17:31.02 | Polarina | nevcairiel: Read the article. |
| 17:31.03 | Shirik|AFK | which is what nullptr will resolve |
| 17:31.16 | Shirik|AFK | Polarina: I just skimmed over it, I'm still not impressed. He avoids one glaring issue |
| 17:31.28 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: *sigh* |
| 17:31.43 | Atriace | I just realized what I might really be looking for is a way to do LoadOnDemand... |
| 17:31.46 | Shirik|AFK | That is, the issue of pipeline stalling |
| 17:32.02 | Shirik|AFK | sure the code might look more optimized, but still the benefits are not amazing |
| 17:32.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha. So we're failing at Teron Gorefiend, hard |
| 17:32.08 | Shirik|AFK | it is better, I won't deny that |
| 17:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | About half the raid has -zero- clue how to kill their constructs |
| 17:32.16 | Shirik|AFK | is it amazingly useful, I would tend to disagree |
| 17:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | So the GM posted a new thread |
| 17:32.24 | Lopeppeppy | Gorefiend is tough, if you don't get your ghosts down, you dies. |
| 17:32.26 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: They are useful! |
| 17:32.30 | kd3 | heh... crypticmage is having a good time trolling CSF |
| 17:32.36 | ScytheBlade1 | "Post your flash simulator kill shots to get into any future Gorefiend raids!" |
| 17:32.37 | Lopeppeppy | Does your guild practice with the Flash game, ScytheBlade1? |
| 17:32.40 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 17:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ;) |
| 17:32.44 | nevcairiel | alot of stuff is useful |
| 17:32.45 | Lopeppeppy | That's my answer. *laugh* |
| 17:32.53 | nevcairiel | not everything needs to go in a standard |
| 17:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Sadly, I cannot for the life of me beat that stupid flash game |
| 17:33.02 | Shirik|AFK | Polarina: All that article did was show me how to shift problems in my code from memory access delay to pipeline delay |
| 17:33.07 | ScytheBlade1 | The interface is retarded and backwards |
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| 17:33.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Even though I can get them just fine in-game :( |
| 17:33.17 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: You just skimmed over it. |
| 17:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | it is.... but it gives you a bit of practice. |
| 17:33.36 | nevcairiel | the article doesnt cover really much |
| 17:33.40 | nevcairiel | its just a list of assemblys |
| 17:33.46 | nevcairiel | you can grasp it with skimming |
| 17:34.06 | Shirik|AFK | I caught the important message |
| 17:34.12 | Shirik|AFK | I see what he's saying |
| 17:34.18 | Shirik|AFK | I'm also pointing out the one huge thing he avoided |
| 17:34.38 | Atriace | exnay on LoadOnDemand. I need to load xml & lua files only after an "if x then" test. |
| 17:34.39 | Shirik|AFK | This is the biggest thing that worries me: "Simplify expressions. Do not mix memory access with calculations. Use the [ Load --> Update --> Store ] pattern. " |
| 17:34.39 | nevcairiel | obviously he doesnt mention the bad sides of it |
| 17:34.50 | Shirik|AFK | I actually can't believe he said that |
| 17:35.05 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: Don't assume the compiler does everything for you.. |
| 17:35.16 | Drundia | even though it should |
| 17:35.20 | Shirik|AFK | Polarina: Maybe you should take your own advice ;) |
| 17:35.27 | Polarina | Drundia: Yet, they don't. |
| 17:35.38 | Drundia | in fact compiler should write code for you too |
| 17:35.47 | nevcairiel | restrict is actually a keyword that adds more of the "hey the compiler does more for me" stuff |
| 17:35.52 | Polarina | Drundia: Optimization wise. |
| 17:36.01 | Shirik|AFK | if this is that critical, write inline assembly |
| 17:36.15 | Polarina | nevcairiel: No, it's a hint to the compiler, just like the inline keyword. |
| 17:36.18 | Saint-N | write it live to the node |
| 17:36.23 | Saint-N | show you've got balls! |
| 17:36.26 | Shirik|AFK | But this article shows me that this guy only knows half of what he's talking about because he completely avoids the issue of pipeline stalling |
| 17:36.34 | nevcairiel | Polarina: thats the same thing, you just wont listen :P |
| 17:36.39 | Shirik|AFK | Why on earth you'd want to do all memory access at the same time is way beyond me |
| 17:36.56 | nevcairiel | Shirik|AFK: its a blog. |
| 17:36.59 | zenzelezz | I wish my guildies spoke a little better English... it's just wrong when "Earth Shock" sounds like "Ass Shock" |
| 17:36.59 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:37.24 | Saint-N | zenzelezz: maybe that is what they call it |
| 17:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: haha, they just deleted that thread it seems |
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| 17:37.38 | Shirik|AFK | After class, I'll revisit this issue with the Intel whitepapers I have floating around here somewhere |
| 17:37.39 | zenzelezz | Saint-N: no, trust me, it's just pronunciation |
| 17:37.48 | zenzelezz | like "south" becomes "sauce" for our Germans |
| 17:37.55 | Shirik|AFK | I should be able to track the operations by clock tick |
| 17:37.59 | amro | and the French -) |
| 17:38.01 | Saint-N | pesky germans |
| 17:38.05 | zenzelezz | we have no French |
| 17:38.10 | Saint-N | gasp |
| 17:38.12 | nevcairiel | powerpc assembly looks weird |
| 17:38.12 | nevcairiel | btw |
| 17:38.19 | Shirik|AFK | Then we'll see just how many stalls are in his "optimized code" |
| 17:38.21 | Shirik|AFK | oh is it powerpc? |
| 17:38.25 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 17:38.25 | Shirik|AFK | then I'll grab that one |
| 17:38.41 | Shirik|AFK | I thought the fpops looked wierd, but I don't pretend to know IA32 amazingly well, only the structure of it |
| 17:38.46 | Shirik|AFK | Microcontoller assembly? I'm all over that :P |
| 17:38.49 | nevcairiel | i know 68000 and 8086 assembly, still powerpc kinda puzzles me |
| 17:39.05 | Saint-N | Shirik the cheap suit of IA32 ;) |
| 17:39.16 | Shirik|AFK | nevcairiel: Go learn 68HC, it's nice :) |
| 17:39.18 | kd3 | ScytheBlade1, ya. that poster's been erased from the forums by the look of it |
| 17:39.22 | Shirik|AFK | if you know 68000 you're already half way there |
| 17:39.31 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/search.html?forumId=11112&characterId=57199172645&sid=1 |
| 17:39.32 | Polarina | Shirik|AFK: The article mentioned it's PowerPC assembly. |
| 17:39.43 | Shirik|AFK | obviously that's part of the part I skipped over |
| 17:39.43 | nevcairiel | i'm actually in the learning process of 8086 right now, thats good for some time :P |
| 17:39.44 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: yay for the big "post nuke" button! |
| 17:39.58 | Shirik|AFK | heh yes |
| 17:40.06 | Shirik|AFK | 8086 doesn't have floating point though right? |
| 17:40.24 | Shirik|AFK | The only annoying thing about 68HC is that it has five bazillion instructions |
| 17:40.25 | nevcairiel | with the FPU extensions it does |
| 17:40.41 | Shirik|AFK | where in IA32 you might have mov eax, mov ebx, mov ecx, etc |
| 17:40.53 | Shirik|AFK | In 68HC they're all different operations |
| 17:41.00 | Shirik|AFK | ldaa, ldab, ldd, ldx, ldy |
| 17:41.32 | Shirik|AFK | But you start to get the pattern and then it becomes fairly easy |
| 17:41.48 | nevcairiel | i just assume there is a 8087 numeric co-processor present, but since i do the assembly on a modern PC, its a safe bet :P |
| 17:41.50 | Shirik|AFK | working with only 1 accumulator = fun times |
| 17:43.28 | Shirik|AFK | ok really gotta run |
| 17:43.44 | Shirik|AFK | Polarina: I'll do some analysis on that code later tonight and we'll see just how good it really is |
| 17:45.06 | nevcairiel | too bad that university still force me to use ANSI C for my OpenGL stuff :( |
| 17:45.10 | Shirik|AFK | But this here? http://wowi.pastey.net/85763 |
| 17:45.24 | Shirik|AFK | that's the stupidest optimization I've seen, considering it allows for zero parallel processing |
| 17:45.34 | Saint-N | thats cuz ansi C is the ultimate god like language ;P |
| 17:45.45 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:45.50 | Saint-N | and Sys V runs it |
| 17:45.51 | Saint-N | heh |
| 17:45.51 | nevcairiel | but i have to admit, using OpenGL is damn easy |
| 17:45.57 | nevcairiel | never expected it to be that easy |
| 17:46.22 | amro | yeah |
| 17:46.38 | amro | D3D requires a blood sacrifice before every meaningful API call |
| 17:46.45 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:46.57 | nevcairiel | i just use GLUT with it though, makes interaction so damn easy |
| 17:49.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Huh. All of that "FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE BBB" crap made me actually read Blizzard's page |
| 17:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Long story short, that 10+ page thread got them... 6 complaints |
| 17:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Out of a current total of 2798 |
| 17:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Forum crusades ftw? |
| 17:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.labbb.org/BBBWeb/Forms/Business/CompanyReportExtensionPage.aspx?CompanyID=13050668&sm=#ComplaintClosingStatistics <-- for the curious |
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| 17:51.37 | kd3 | lol |
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| 17:58.03 | Saint-N | the spicy baconator from wendy's is awesome! |
| 18:00.04 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like something Arnold might eat. |
| 18:00.16 | Saint-N | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.20 | ralfWORK | what else would a terminator eat? |
| 18:01.36 | [Liquidor] | Good day everyone. |
| 18:01.47 | Hirsute | Termites? |
| 18:01.57 | ralfWORK | oh good one |
| 18:01.59 | ralfWORK | probably yea |
| 18:02.07 | ralfWORK | termites + baconator = ?? |
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| 18:10.09 | Nechckn | Saint-N much of the BBB's power depends on the business itself |
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| 18:10.51 | Nechckn | the "storefront" types seem to be more afraid of such actions |
| 18:11.46 | Nechckn | which, I really don't understand, since, you would think, service providers and online retailers should have customers who can access the records all that much easier. |
| 18:12.50 | Kirov | Nechckn - it comes down to a convenience thing. |
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| 18:13.38 | Kirov | When people go someplace physically to buy something, they're doing it for the service of talking to a real person (regardless of if they actually do talk to someone) |
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| 18:13.47 | Kirov | Along with the convenience of getting it "now" |
| 18:14.26 | Nechckn | well, if a retailer has a "monopoly" on items, I can understand the convenience thing, but most items you can get from multiple sources but, I know what you mean. |
| 18:14.31 | Kirov | Buying something online is more of a faceless situation, the perceived service usually doesn't persist past the interface of the web site. |
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| 18:14.59 | kamdis | Dear lord, S4 gear requires personal rating of 2200! :-| |
| 18:15.12 | dylanm | Good. |
| 18:15.25 | Kirov | The online world usually trumps the real world's convenience of now with the convenience of not having to go anywhere. |
| 18:15.25 | Polarina | Finally! :D |
| 18:15.57 | kd3 | whuh? where'd the 2200 number get announced? |
| 18:16.06 | kamdis | The gear's up on armory |
| 18:16.36 | Arrowmaster | link? |
| 18:16.59 | kamdis | http://eu.wowarmory.com/search.xml?searchQuery=brutal%20gladiator&searchType=items that's the EU link for some |
| 18:17.20 | Kirov | http://www.wowarmory.com/search.xml?fl%5Bsource%5D=pvpAlliance&fl%5Bpvp%5D=arena3&fl%5Btype%5D=all&searchType=items |
| 18:17.44 | Kirov | opps |
| 18:18.01 | Kirov | that's S3 |
| 18:18.05 | kamdis | uh |
| 18:18.48 | ralfWORK | tbh, I haven't heard of anyone with a 2200 rating |
| 18:18.58 | kamdis | still shows req. rating of 2200 on the item |
| 18:19.08 | Industrial | your sister :D? |
| 18:19.12 | Industrial | *badoom tisch* |
| 18:19.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ralfWORK: I know several people who are >2200 |
| 18:19.20 | ralfWORK | now, I am not really a big arena person either |
| 18:19.27 | ralfWORK | so maybe I just don't care :P |
| 18:19.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I know a spriest with a 2500 rating |
| 18:19.33 | ralfWORK | ah nice |
| 18:20.05 | Saint-N | kamdis has at least a 2200 rating |
| 18:20.40 | ralfWORK | I fail bad at arenas |
| 18:20.54 | ralfWORK | I'd be tempted to try Disc |
| 18:21.04 | ralfWORK | but as shadow it doesn't seem to be full of win |
| 18:21.09 | Saint-N | disc is areana fun personified |
| 18:21.14 | kamdis | I do? |
| 18:21.16 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 18:21.20 | Saint-N | shadow is fun too cept too many locks |
| 18:21.25 | kamdis | or did you mean it the "ur sister" sense? |
| 18:21.41 | Saint-N | in the if you looked at me and smiled sorta way ;P |
| 18:21.46 | kamdis | lol |
| 18:21.46 | ralfWORK | or it might be fun with som actual resil gear. maybe that's what I'm missing :P |
| 18:21.48 | kamdis | okay |
| 18:21.49 | dylanm | Shadow is not too good in arena these days. |
| 18:21.58 | kamdis | I was going to say, I hate arenas. |
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| 18:22.03 | Saint-N | the smile and look arent much needed mind you ;) |
| 18:22.06 | kamdis | Mostly because I suck at them. |
| 18:22.16 | Saint-N | its that sucking quality we cherish ;) |
| 18:22.21 | kamdis | haha |
| 18:22.25 | kamdis | ZING |
| 18:23.31 | kamdis | anyway, that gear thing is from worldofraids, so I have no idea if it's accurate. http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-12489-1.html |
| 18:24.27 | ralfWORK | I'm really wondering about the gem cost reduction tbh |
| 18:26.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I hope so |
| 18:26.54 | ralfWORK | I'd certainly benefit from it. I don't know if it's a good thing or not though |
| 18:27.06 | kamdis | 15 isn't that much anyway |
| 18:27.20 | ralfWORK | naw, but when I have a total of 17 gem slots |
| 18:27.22 | ralfWORK | it could be nice! |
| 18:29.57 | kergoth | anyone here using an n52 or n52te, curious about peoples layouts |
| 18:30.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Why would it be a bad thing? |
| 18:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | People will get their own badges at the same time as farming content |
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| 18:30.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence, they can gem out without waiting on a 12398173 queue for the crimson spinels |
| 18:31.50 | ralfWORK | eh sure |
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| 18:31.52 | ralfWORK | idk |
| 18:31.56 | Kirov | kergoth - I use a n108tex |
| 18:32.03 | ralfWORK | I just feel weird about some of the devaluing |
| 18:32.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Will it butcher the AH for the epic gems? Yeah |
| 18:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:32.10 | Kirov | kergoth - otherwise known as a normal keyboard |
| 18:32.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not going to lie to you |
| 18:32.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm in Hyjal/BT with 6 karazahn epics |
| 18:32.23 | kamdis | that's the way of WoW. |
| 18:32.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm going to have some epic gems in there |
| 18:32.35 | kamdis | devalue devalue devalue |
| 18:33.17 | ralfWORK | yea I suppose it is |
| 18:33.23 | Saint-N | mr teeth mr teeth mr teeth |
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| 18:33.32 | Saint-N | wow |
| 18:33.55 | Saint-N | tekkub == mr.teeth |
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| 18:34.44 | Tekkub | meh? |
| 18:36.18 | Saint-N | <Saint-N> mr teeth mr teeth mr teeth |
| 18:36.18 | Saint-N | úù. [join(#WoWUIDev)] ö [Tekkub(n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub)] |
| 18:38.53 | nevcairiel | Does anyone know how i can tell VC05 to yell at me if i validate ANSI C ? |
| 18:38.59 | nevcairiel | er |
| 18:39.01 | nevcairiel | not validate |
| 18:39.03 | nevcairiel | break :P |
| 18:39.44 | Saint-N | get unix and do it with gcc ;P |
| 18:40.12 | Saint-N | or compile with the -ISUK switch |
| 18:40.16 | Saint-N | err |
| 18:40.21 | Saint-N | -O ISUK |
| 18:40.45 | nevcairiel | i actually am supposed to compile this on linux at some point, but i am rather lazy right now, and more comfy developing on windows |
| 18:40.53 | nevcairiel | and its a OpenGL app so i cant just get cygwin |
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| 18:44.16 | Saint-N | the short answer is no |
| 18:44.32 | Saint-N | since vs6 appearantly it's been compat for both and doesnt care which is which |
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| 18:45.48 | Revenge013 | Hello there. Got a question about writing Lua for texture/casting bar |
| 18:45.53 | Saint-N | you may be able to edit out the c++ section in the predefines though |
| 18:46.09 | Saint-N | as sort of a hacky way to accomplish it the local C nerd here thinks |
| 18:48.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ~asktoask |
| 18:48.34 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:50.09 | Saint-N | try ifdef -cplusplus |
| 18:50.14 | Saint-N | undef -cplusplus |
| 18:50.17 | Saint-N | endif |
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| 18:50.38 | mikma | http://youtube.com/watch?v=nOut22jOv6c |
| 18:50.47 | Seerah|away | you scared him off, ScytheBlade1 :P |
| 18:53.00 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 18:53.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Sorry? |
| 18:53.16 | ScytheBlade1 | If that scares him off... I'm not sure what to say |
| 18:53.31 | Saint-N | nevcairiel: or /TC as a compiler preference |
| 18:53.39 | Saint-N | specifies it as a C only input |
| 18:54.37 | kamdis | omg http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8643-STFUKazzak.html |
| 18:54.43 | kamdis | that right there is win |
| 18:55.17 | ralfWORK | AAHAHAHAHA |
| 18:56.06 | Saint-N | you got the St.Fuk addon? |
| 18:56.21 | kamdis | ? |
| 18:56.52 | Saint-N | STFUKazzak |
| 18:56.56 | Saint-N | st.fuk |
| 18:56.57 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 18:57.03 | kamdis | oh |
| 18:57.13 | kamdis | rawr? |
| 18:57.39 | Saint-N | helmet |
| 19:00.41 | Arrowmaster | that STFUKazzak was written for 2.4 right? |
| 19:01.26 | kamdis | yes |
| 19:01.34 | Arrowmaster | code sucks |
| 19:01.41 | *** join/#wowuidev malreth (n=malreth@w-mob400-128-62-219-203.public.utexas.edu) |
| 19:01.45 | Arrowmaster | it hooks ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler |
| 19:02.00 | malreth | you may call me malreth, Destroyer of Projectors |
| 19:02.26 | malreth | i'm 2-0 on touching a projector... and then having it mysteriously fail immediately after |
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| 19:03.10 | Josh_Borke | malreth: victory is your's |
| 19:03.20 | malreth | a winner is me |
| 19:03.39 | malreth | i've cost this customer of mine another $1000 or so to replace it |
| 19:03.50 | malreth | they're not too happy about it |
| 19:03.56 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 19:04.17 | malreth | 'specially after spending $1000 to replace the last one i toasted by supernatural means |
| 19:05.09 | malreth | all i did was unplug the thing, pull out the filter, blew it clean with compressed air (short bursts), put it back in, screwed it down, plug it back in... and nothing |
| 19:05.18 | malreth | no standby light, no power, nothing |
| 19:06.09 | mikma | Cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/kissa208.jpg |
| 19:06.10 | malreth | all i can think of is after years and years of being plugged in, the loss in power caused some contact or something to cool down, contract, and break on the logic board |
| 19:06.32 | Saint-N | or |
| 19:06.36 | Saint-N | it just hates you |
| 19:06.48 | malreth | yes... i have considered that possibility as well |
| 19:07.19 | malreth | the thing i have going for me is that the projector was reportedly flickering on and off for the past week |
| 19:08.48 | malreth | so, it was probably in it final death throes |
| 19:08.52 | ralfWORK | that's your story now you should stick to it |
| 19:08.57 | Saint-N | heh |
| 19:09.10 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: lol |
| 19:09.10 | malreth | i have several class instructors that can back me up on that |
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| 19:09.49 | mikma | Cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/puma_logo.jpg |
| 19:09.51 | Saint-N | at least it was only hardware and not a 5million disc array with irreplaceable data and it was your job to back it up |
| 19:10.04 | Cairenn|afk | hahha |
| 19:10.15 | Saint-N | mik |
| 19:10.21 | Saint-N | is that your cat in the touque? |
| 19:10.25 | Josh_Borke | 5 million disc array? |
| 19:10.30 | Saint-N | $ |
| 19:10.30 | Josh_Borke | what does that mean exactly? |
| 19:10.33 | Josh_Borke | oh, ok |
| 19:10.35 | Saint-N | fergot a symbol |
| 19:10.37 | malreth | Saint-N: i once wiped the hard drive of a guy that brought in his computer for repair |
| 19:10.48 | Josh_Borke | malreth: BRILLIANT! |
| 19:10.48 | mikma | Saint-N: why of course it is... |
| 19:11.03 | malreth | Josh_Borke: he brought it in and asked for a complete reformat/reinstall |
| 19:11.07 | Saint-N | i wouldnt sleep on your back ever again ;P |
| 19:11.16 | Saint-N | thats not the face of a forgiving cat ;) |
| 19:11.30 | malreth | i verified with him that he would lose everything... he said "shore" |
| 19:11.37 | malreth | so i wiped that drive clean |
| 19:11.45 | ralfWORK | malreth: I did that with the mother-in-law |
| 19:11.47 | Saint-N | heh ive done that |
| 19:11.52 | ralfWORK | I'll never touch her computer again |
| 19:11.59 | malreth | then reinstalled windows... had it back to him in 3 hours, fully updated and everything |
| 19:11.59 | Saint-N | course i always backup stuff prior because customers are retards ;P |
| 19:12.05 | mikma | Saint-N: my mom actually has a cat that looks kinda like that one :) |
| 19:12.08 | malreth | he then asks me... "where's all my files?" |
| 19:12.20 | ralfWORK | sigh. yep |
| 19:12.28 | mikma | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragdoll |
| 19:12.32 | malreth | from there began a 3 month long organization wide ordeal |
| 19:12.39 | malreth | that cost us thousands of dollars |
| 19:12.41 | mikma | yeah, i like Ragdolls. |
| 19:12.58 | Arrowmaster | malreth: he sued? |
| 19:13.01 | ralfWORK | I even went through it with her "I don't know if you save your data in JUST my documents or if you save it some other spot" "oh yes it's fine it's fine" |
| 19:13.09 | malreth | and was even the topic of a org-wide all hands meeting |
| 19:13.22 | malreth | Arrowmaster: we're a state organization... we can't be sued... easily |
| 19:13.30 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 19:13.33 | ralfWORK | malreth: "our users are idiots. what do we do?"? |
| 19:13.36 | malreth | but he extorted a full data recovery out of us |
| 19:13.38 | Atriace | ~seen Iriel |
| 19:13.42 | purl | iriel <n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 14h 38m 24s ago, saying: '8-)'. |
| 19:13.48 | malreth | sent his drive off to get the data restored |
| 19:14.09 | malreth | which failed.... because i was awesome and did a low-level format on that fucker |
| 19:14.25 | ralfWORK | AHAHAHAHAHHHAA |
| 19:14.35 | Arrowmaster | malreth: you dont happen to have a contract like bestbuy now where when you take a computer in you sign off on something with extremely fine print that if you dont pay extra they wont backup any data? |
| 19:15.00 | malreth | Arrowmaster: we did have that. we even read it out aloud to customers (well, we used to) |
| 19:15.02 | ralfWORK | malreth: I feel your pain |
| 19:15.23 | ralfWORK | it's shit like that that'll have you thinking the entire world is full of absolute morons |
| 19:15.26 | Lopeppeppy | Sheeple suck |
| 19:15.34 | Arrowmaster | malreth: although bestbuy is retarded and will sometimes reformat computers when all theyre suppost to be doing is installing a dvd drive |
| 19:15.46 | ralfWORK | I have to admit, once I left all forms of IT helpdesk, my view of the world increased |
| 19:15.56 | Atriace | Could anybody (familiar with DevTools) tell me why this wouldn't work? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85773 |
| 19:16.36 | malreth | yeah... thankfully i was indemnified against everything... the prick probably would have sued me if he could have |
| 19:17.00 | malreth | i don't have a low opinion of people... just of grad students. |
| 19:17.20 | ralfWORK | I worked at a company |
| 19:17.32 | ralfWORK | I didn't have teh luxury of refining my hatered |
| 19:17.49 | ralfWORK | every department had morons |
| 19:18.01 | ralfWORK | so I couldn't even just go "god, sales people are idiots" |
| 19:18.11 | ralfWORK | because then accounting would come up with some asinine bullshit |
| 19:18.30 | ralfWORK | oh, and no one ever indemnified us against anything :) |
| 19:18.43 | Saint-N | heh we had a way to imply sales were morons to out clients |
| 19:18.49 | Kirov | Atriace - I don't think I made DevTools_Events an index table when I originally created it, not sure if Iriel fixed it later. |
| 19:18.59 | Saint-N | anytime they started a sentence with "well sales said" we'd snicker and roll our eyes |
| 19:19.09 | malreth | i've always told myself that people have other crap that they'd rather think about. there are very few absolute morons in the world in my book |
| 19:19.11 | ralfWORK | Saint-N: yep |
| 19:19.21 | Saint-N | which always resulted in the followup question of "so what can i do?" |
| 19:19.30 | ralfWORK | malreth: you must either be a saint or an idiot to think that and be in IT :) |
| 19:19.37 | Fisker- | btw |
| 19:19.47 | malreth | ralfWORK: worse... jaded |
| 19:19.48 | Saint-N | im gonna go with 10d1t |
| 19:19.52 | Kirov | Atriace - try pairs and i instead of v? |
| 19:19.52 | Atriace | Kirov: always a surpise who you'll meet here. In any case, I guess the solution would be to simply create my own table of all the events with a numeric key, correct? |
| 19:19.53 | Fisker- | didn't Blizzard at some point state why they don't show talented buffs in buff descriptions? |
| 19:19.57 | Saint-N | err 1d10t |
| 19:20.07 | Fisker- | other than "it would require a rewrite to work"? |
| 19:20.33 | Kirov | Atriace - that's an option, sure |
| 19:20.53 | malreth | http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com/ |
| 19:21.12 | Kirov | Atriace - The real issue with that bit of code though is you're using ipairs when the table is a hash. |
| 19:23.59 | Fisker- | 1+1 = 2 |
| 19:24.48 | mikma | amazing |
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| 19:33.02 | Shirik|AFK | ~kill malreth |
| 19:33.02 | purl | ACTION shoots a ionized photon gun at malreth |
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| 19:35.10 | Saint-N | ~kill -9 Shirik |
| 19:35.11 | purl | ACTION shoots a charged proton gun at -9 Shirik |
| 19:35.19 | foxlit | They so need to change bandages to direct melee range |
| 19:35.37 | Lopeppeppy | ? |
| 19:36.11 | foxlit | (breaking all of the "zomg you're too close to xyz" addons) |
| 19:36.24 | amro | hm, since when did they remove the option to disable multisampling? |
| 19:37.24 | foxlit | 1x multisampling == no multisampling, iirc |
| 19:37.42 | Shirik | maybe they mean 1x = 2x? |
| 19:37.55 | amro | yeah maybe, since 1x still does mutlisampling |
| 19:38.53 | amro | and I remember there used to be a "No multisampling " setting |
| 19:38.53 | Hirsute | So, I'm trying to protect the Auction House window from closure by other windows. It's all fairly straight forward, except fo the case where a user might try to change the setting while the AH is open, which doesn't work, so I wrote the following for when the window is visible: |
| 19:38.53 | Hirsute | If (AucitonFrame:IsVisible()) then AuctionFrame_Hide() AuctionFrame:SetAttribute("UIPanelLayout-enabled", nil) AuctionFrame_Show() end |
| 19:38.54 | Hirsute | But that's breaking things. Is there another way to accomplish this? |
| 19:38.55 | Shirik | "breaking things" |
| 19:38.55 | Shirik | you misspelled AuctionFrame |
| 19:38.55 | Shirik | fyi |
| 19:38.55 | Shirik | if that's copy-pasted |
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| 19:38.55 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v schnoggo] by ChanServ |
| 19:38.55 | Hirsute | Not copy-pasted |
| 19:39.05 | Kirov | amro - how does 1x do multisample? |
| 19:39.19 | Hirsute | Thanks for noticing though! Breaking Things = Can't scan with Auctioneer after executing that code until I've closed and reopened the Auction House window. |
| 19:39.21 | Shirik | you really should do something like AuctionFrame:SetScript("OnHide", function() AuctionFrame:Show() end); |
| 19:39.49 | amro | Kirov: it looks the same as 2x actually |
| 19:39.51 | Atriace | How do you address the luabot? |
| 19:39.59 | Shirik | lua>, -->, or >>> |
| 19:39.59 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ',' |
| 19:40.02 | amro | I'm going to try setting it in config.wtf |
| 19:40.02 | Shirik | quiet you! |
| 19:40.02 | malreth|dead | Saint-N: i've always wanted a server in my spine |
| 19:40.06 | Atriace | Danka |
| 19:40.10 | Cide | >>> is the best one imo |
| 19:40.14 | Cide | (unbiased opinion) |
| 19:40.19 | foxlit | "My newest and favorite lua bot overlord..." |
| 19:40.27 | kergoth | Hirsute: pretty sure current auctioneer advanced has built in protection now |
| 19:40.31 | Shirik | >>> while true do end |
| 19:40.37 | Cide | Shirik: maximum execution time (5s) exceeded |
| 19:40.42 | Shirik | does that still lock you up Cide? :P |
| 19:40.46 | Cide | no |
| 19:40.49 | Shirik | oh boo |
| 19:40.50 | Hirsute | Kergoth: I'm the one putting that in. I'm trying to fix some bugs that have popped up, this one specifically |
| 19:40.55 | Cide | it runs in a separate thread and has for a long tiem :P |
| 19:41.01 | Cide | time |
| 19:41.06 | kergoth | oh, right :) |
| 19:41.12 | Hirsute | Thanks though! |
| 19:41.15 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:41.44 | Shirik | see if you do it my way, it should trigger any related hooks |
| 19:41.49 | Shirik | which should clean up any problems |
| 19:41.51 | Shirik | (hopefullY) |
| 19:42.10 | Hirsute | Shirik: The AuctionFrame:SetScript("OnHide", function() Auctionframe:Show() end) method would make that happen every time the AuctionFrame is hidden, though, wouldn't it? |
| 19:42.24 | Shirik | isn't that what you were trying to do, keep it shown? |
| 19:42.46 | Hirsute | We want the user to be able to close it, but be able to open other windows without them closing the AH window |
| 19:42.58 | Hirsute | Sorry I wasn't clear about that. |
| 19:43.24 | Shirik | ok so adjust the script slightly so that it watches for what exactly is triggering the hide :) |
| 19:43.50 | Kirov | amro - I just tested locally, there's definately a difference between 1x and 2x |
| 19:43.58 | amro | hm |
| 19:44.25 | amro | looking at config.wtf shows SET gxMultisampleQuality "0.000000", I'll try again |
| 19:44.43 | Atriace | >_< |
| 19:44.50 | Hirsute | Shirik: Hrmm. Okay. Time for me to go find a way to detect what's causing the AH Window to close |
| 19:45.02 | Shirik | that I don't have an answer for, unfortunately |
| 19:45.07 | mikma | Hirsute: hardware event perhaps |
| 19:45.10 | Atriace | what would be an equivalent way of using message() with luabot? |
| 19:45.11 | Shirik | I can think of some hackish solutions |
| 19:45.13 | Shirik | but that's a bad idea |
| 19:45.19 | Shirik | Atriace: print? |
| 19:45.28 | Atriace | tried that.... or .... I failed trying. |
| 19:45.28 | Shirik | message() is a WoW API |
| 19:45.31 | widgertick | > print("Liez") |
| 19:45.32 | Hirsute | Shirik: Yes, as evidenced by what's happening with my hackery |
| 19:45.33 | widgertick | lua> print("Liez") |
| 19:45.34 | lua_bot | widgertick: Liez |
| 19:45.45 | Atriace | Ok, I failed. lol |
| 19:45.56 | widgertick | lua> return "liez" |
| 19:45.56 | lua_bot | widgertick: liez |
| 19:46.14 | Atriace | dang... I tried both of those and it didn't return for me. |
| 19:46.24 | Hirsute | Also, the point is to be able to have other windows open on top of the AH window, and I can't think of a way to do that without actually removing the AuctionFrame from the standard frame handler |
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| 19:46.25 | widgertick | lua> return type(type(type)) |
| 19:46.26 | lua_bot | widgertick: string |
| 19:46.27 | Kirov | >>> function message(m) return m end print( message( "liez" ) ) |
| 19:46.28 | Cide | Kirov: "liez" |
| 19:46.41 | amro | Kirov: setting went back to 2x for me- I think it's not accepting it |
| 19:47.01 | Kirov | amro - sounds like some driver override |
| 19:47.08 | widgertick | amro: Are multisample settings showing up in your video resolution dropdown? |
| 19:48.35 | Shirik | amro: could try a /console gxRestart |
| 19:48.39 | Shirik | see if it changes it at all |
| 19:48.44 | Shirik | shouldn't matter though |
| 19:48.51 | zenzelezz | The time has come, the moment is at hand. (Council down) |
| 19:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Grats |
| 19:49.04 | Shirik | grats |
| 19:49.08 | ralfWORK | grats man |
| 19:49.18 | Cairenn | cool, grats zenzelezz |
| 19:49.29 | zenzelezz | now that was quite hectic; but for once I just had to stand in the middle \o/ |
| 19:49.35 | amro | Kirov: that's what I thought, but it's not the case |
| 19:50.39 | Shirik | lol, I just received a reply to an email I sent nearly a year ago |
| 19:50.56 | Shirik | Sent: 06/27/2007 12:16 PM |
| 19:51.59 | widgertick | Shirik: I just got my gas bill for September in the mail. |
| 19:52.05 | Shirik | nice |
| 19:53.58 | Shirik | ~x de en Ohne dish |
| 19:54.06 | Shirik | ~x de en Ohne dich |
| 19:54.28 | Shirik | ~stab malreth|dead |
| 19:54.29 | purl | ACTION runs at malreth|dead with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:54.37 | cncfanatic1 | ~whalenuke Shirik |
| 19:54.38 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Shirik with his mind powers. |
| 19:54.39 | nevcairiel | Shirik: why is the syntax highlighting so sucky in VS05? <.< |
| 19:54.45 | Shirik | use VS08! |
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| 19:54.50 | Shirik | actually, why is it sucky? |
| 19:54.50 | Saint-N | nev did you see what i said? |
| 19:55.02 | nevcairiel | Shirik: it just looks bad, dunno |
| 19:55.05 | nevcairiel | is it better in 08? |
| 19:55.13 | Cairenn | yay for stupid tv reporters - "the suspects throw a bag of cash out the window that was illegally stolen from a bank" - wait, what, that means there is a way to legally steal cash from a bank? |
| 19:55.14 | Shirik | I agree it does seem a little outdated. It's a bit better in 08 but not by much |
| 19:55.16 | Saint-N | all hail geshi! |
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| 19:55.42 | Saint-N | cairenn: its called a frivolous lawsuit ;P |
| 19:55.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:56.03 | Saint-N | i slipped on your icy front step gibbor me moneies! |
| 19:56.28 | nevcairiel | Shirik: if it would color numbers, i would be happy, fwiw :P |
| 19:56.41 | Shirik | there may be a way to set that up, sec |
| 19:56.55 | nevcairiel | or variables vs function calls |
| 19:57.02 | nevcairiel | some lines are just black |
| 19:57.04 | nevcairiel | that looks wrong |
| 19:57.13 | Shirik | I can't stand function calls being highlighted |
| 19:57.19 | Shirik | especially when the IDE doesn't actually know it's a function call :P |
| 19:57.41 | Shirik | If you think just black is bad, you should try WIN32 development nevcairiel :P |
| 19:57.44 | Shirik | It's all caps and all black |
| 19:57.52 | nevcairiel | heh no thanks |
| 19:58.17 | zenzelezz | <nevcairiel> Shirik: why is the syntax highlighting so sucky in VS05? <.< <-- I have no issues with VC++ highlighting... all the Scintilla-based editors on the other hand love to highlight every single thing |
| 19:58.30 | Shirik | yeah honestly I like VS's highlighting |
| 19:58.34 | nevcairiel | such a simple line .. glVertex2d(cos(degInRad)*RADIUS, sin(degInRad)*RADIUS); .. just needs some sort of color to make it easier to read =P |
| 19:58.37 | Shirik | there are a few things I'd take from netbeans |
| 19:58.38 | Shirik | but that's it |
| 19:59.27 | AbsoRayne | This conversation makes my nipples hurt. |
| 19:59.30 | Atriace | How do you get a table name if passed as a function argument? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85778 |
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| 19:59.43 | nevcairiel | all coloring i get is C keywords |
| 19:59.45 | nevcairiel | and comments |
| 19:59.48 | Hirsute | Okay, I figured out where my problems are coming from: AuctionFrame_Show() and AuctionFrame:Show() don't seem to actually connect the frame to the AH system. |
| 19:59.54 | Shirik | and preprocessor |
| 19:59.59 | zenzelezz | VC++'s highlighting isn't perfect by any means, but every time I go back to it from Notepad++ or similar editors, I'm amazed at how great it feels compared to them (and I'm talking the text editor, not the other IDE features) |
| 20:00.00 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: oh hai. :D |
| 20:00.00 | nevcairiel | oh yeah |
| 20:00.06 | kamdis | hi |
| 20:00.22 | nevcairiel | i like the np++ highlighting <.< |
| 20:00.23 | AbsoRayne | So youre currently right atm, fyi. |
| 20:00.32 | AbsoRayne | Im starting to hate dark red on this UI. |
| 20:00.52 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Really I can't stand the rainbow that some editors produce. Intellisense gives me enough info |
| 20:00.56 | Shirik | hover over something if you need extra info |
| 20:00.57 | Atriace | AbsoRayne: red is an emotive color |
| 20:00.58 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I'd like something inbetween the two. NP++ and its other Scintilla-based cousins just get too colorful by default |
| 20:01.18 | Shirik | however, I used to have numbers in different color in VC++6 |
| 20:01.19 | nevcairiel | coloring pure numbers would be what i really miss |
| 20:01.21 | Shirik | and I doubt they'd take that out |
| 20:01.27 | Shirik | so I'm trying to find out where you can do that |
| 20:01.45 | AbsoRayne | Atriace: Ive also come onto the problem that since its the signature color for my UIs, its hard to move away from it. |
| 20:02.05 | nevcairiel | found it Shirik |
| 20:02.05 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:02.11 | Shirik | where? |
| 20:02.26 | Atriace | AbsoRayne: is the red a vertex color or a texture? |
| 20:02.35 | Saint-N | i like the highlighting of strings |
| 20:02.40 | Saint-N | anything in a "" |
| 20:02.40 | kamdis | AbsoRayne: Anything, no matter how well done, in WoW UIs gets boring after a while |
| 20:02.41 | Saint-N | or '' |
| 20:02.53 | Shirik | Saint-N: That can be done too :) |
| 20:02.57 | nevcairiel | Tools -> Options -> Environment -> Fonts and colors -- and look for Number in the ass-long scroll box |
| 20:02.57 | zenzelezz | Shirik: "Number" under "Fonts and Colors" I imagine |
| 20:03.01 | Saint-N | yeah my scite does it |
| 20:03.04 | Atriace | AbsoRayne: either way, you could probably have a win-win by simply adding a preference to switch between the default color and... say maybe grey. |
| 20:03.06 | kamdis | See also: neon colors by Hal |
| 20:03.07 | zenzelezz | exactly where you would think to look |
| 20:03.08 | AbsoRayne | Although, it could also be the font throwing it off. |
| 20:03.16 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: True |
| 20:03.28 | Shirik | oh environment |
| 20:03.32 | Shirik | silly me, I went to "text editor" |
| 20:03.35 | Atriace | Anyone care to take a gander? How to derive a table name? |
| 20:03.38 | AbsoRayne | Have you seen it yet? Or have you not lurked the UI forums today? |
| 20:03.39 | Shirik | why could I have possibly concieved it would be there... |
| 20:03.48 | nevcairiel | yeah me too, thats why i didnt find it at first |
| 20:04.03 | nevcairiel | but that makes the code moe readable :) |
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| 20:04.06 | zenzelezz | Shirik: any self-respecting nerf browses every page of the settings after an install to hyper-customize it |
| 20:04.06 | nevcairiel | for me anyway |
| 20:04.08 | Atriace | AbsoRayne: your earlier ones yes. Nothing today, though. |
| 20:04.24 | AbsoRayne | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/003a01e53c8c29ceba2e52ed5c765223.png |
| 20:04.47 | kamdis | I like that font on UFs, etc. but not chat |
| 20:04.51 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I have no desire to change it :P |
| 20:04.53 | kamdis | personal opinion |
| 20:05.15 | kamdis | Maybe it's just my aged eyes :P |
| 20:05.28 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: So does that mean if I change it back, I can ignore the people that say 'omfg chat font doesnt match!!!11!!onetwelve |
| 20:05.46 | Atriace | I'm confused. Is AbsoRayne a girl or a guy? |
| 20:05.46 | Saint-N | zomg! |
| 20:05.50 | Saint-N | guy |
| 20:05.51 | kamdis | Leave it how you like. If I DL it, I'll change it. |
| 20:05.59 | kamdis | Guy, imo |
| 20:06.01 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: =P |
| 20:06.04 | Atriace | How can a guy feel his nipples. That doesn't make sense |
| 20:06.08 | Saint-N | kamdis cairenn pex and peppy are our girls |
| 20:06.12 | Saint-N | err pez |
| 20:06.22 | Saint-N | Atriace: get em pierced ;P |
| 20:06.24 | Shirik | pex! |
| 20:06.26 | Atriace | lol |
| 20:06.30 | Saint-N | woprks for me |
| 20:06.35 | AbsoRayne | Were men not meant to have nipples? |
| 20:06.47 | Atriace | I forgot I had them |
| 20:06.48 | Shirik | no, it was a bug that the marketing guys decided was too costly to fix |
| 20:06.49 | AbsoRayne | I should schedule a date with a plastic surgeon then... |
| 20:07.02 | amro | Kirov: further testing reveals that I can't tell the difference between no multisampling and 2x multisampling |
| 20:07.09 | amro | since FPS drops |
| 20:07.11 | Saint-N | AbsoRayne: while you're there..... |
| 20:07.12 | amro | at high resolutions at least |
| 20:07.13 | AbsoRayne | amro: There really isnt one |
| 20:07.20 | AbsoRayne | I noticed the same thing |
| 20:07.25 | Saint-N | you should get breasts that make beer ;P |
| 20:07.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [21:58] <nevcairiel> such a simple line .. glVertex2d(cos(degInRad)*RADIUS, sin(degInRad)*RADIUS); .. just needs some sort of color to make it easier to read =P |
| 20:07.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 20:07.40 | purl | farts in nevcairiel's general direction |
| 20:07.42 | Shirik | You know, Tauren should have a racial that lets them get free [Ice Cold Milk] |
| 20:07.49 | AbsoRayne | About the only thing ive noticed, is that it makes some addons frame edges a little sharper. |
| 20:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Erm? |
| 20:07.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Ice Cold? |
| 20:07.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: only the female taurens |
| 20:07.57 | AbsoRayne | Saint-N: Id be rich! |
| 20:07.58 | Shirik | that's the item name |
| 20:07.59 | sag_ich_nicht | and it should be warm |
| 20:08.00 | sag_ich_nicht | not cold |
| 20:08.05 | sag_ich_nicht | make a new item then |
| 20:08.07 | nevcairiel | ~whaleparry sag_ich_nicht |
| 20:08.08 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry sag_ich_nicht's attacks. |
| 20:08.09 | Shirik | fine [Warm Milk] |
| 20:08.42 | Saint-N | and the male tuarens create [Warm Yellowish Liquid] |
| 20:08.58 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: All I have to do now is decide how im going to lay Grid out. |
| 20:08.59 | AbsoRayne | :| |
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| 20:09.15 | AbsoRayne | If I want to make this one more healer friendly, or just say fuckall |
| 20:09.38 | Atriace | Are you providing special layout/skin for Grid? |
| 20:10.04 | kamdis | say fuck all imo - it's your UI |
| 20:10.31 | AbsoRayne | Ive always used Hals textures for my UIs, so yes / no |
| 20:11.36 | AbsoRayne | kamdis: Well this is the one UI ive done that feels 'healer-ish' to me, minus the project that will not be named. Ive never really played with healer layouts with Grid, and the only place it looks like it would fit would be above the Action bars and ToT frame, and then it would just be in the middle of the screen like 'omfg look at me!' |
| 20:11.42 | AbsoRayne | WALL OF TEXT WHEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 20:12.38 | ralfWORK | hahahah wow |
| 20:12.51 | ralfWORK | you know the sad thing is, I probably need to drop grid and go with decursive :( |
| 20:13.02 | ralfWORK | but grid + clique is so 2nd nature to me |
| 20:13.09 | ralfWORK | and yet so useless now that I'm shadow :P |
| 20:13.38 | Saint-N | AbsoRayne: you're using eep2 arentcha? |
| 20:14.25 | AbsoRayne | Saint-N: Aye |
| 20:14.40 | AbsoRayne | But just for the Button background currently. |
| 20:14.52 | Saint-N | you should get in the habit of saving the profile names |
| 20:15.09 | Saint-N | that way you can easily swap em as the mood sutis |
| 20:15.15 | Saint-N | thats what im redoing with hkui |
| 20:15.38 | AbsoRayne | Saint-N: I actually just have all my WTF folders sitting on my Desktop, and just swap them like that. :P |
| 20:15.46 | Saint-N | ditto for any of the other ace things with profiles |
| 20:15.56 | Saint-N | laugh im talking release ;) |
| 20:17.08 | kamdis | AbsoRayne: Yeah, don't go in the middle with it. |
| 20:17.25 | kamdis | there's someone in the post your ui thread or something that has that. it annoys the crap outta me. |
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| 20:17.37 | AbsoRayne | Yeah |
| 20:17.58 | AbsoRayne | Then again, im using a really tiny font now, I -MIGHT- be able to get away with putting it below the Action Bars... |
| 20:18.04 | AbsoRayne | brb one second |
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| 20:21.24 | Saint-N | i really wish that someone would make me a import/export mass profile switch for ace2 stuff |
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| 20:24.44 | Drundia | "Some people seem to fail finding their PVP trinket. It's yellow." |
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| 20:26.44 | AbsoRayne | Back |
| 20:30.24 | AbsoRayne | Feral Swiftness should work indoors. :| |
| 20:30.53 | Shirik | Does anyone actually know what this means? s\mpdelbuono\Documents\Code\SE300\nusmv.dll: The application has failed to start because its side-by-side configuration is incorrect. Please see the application event log for more detail |
| 20:31.07 | Shirik | I really need to learn what side-by-side is |
| 20:32.06 | Saint-N | well |
| 20:34.24 | AbsoRayne | Hrm |
| 20:34.32 | |Pixel| | http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994410.aspx |
| 20:34.38 | |Pixel| | there you are |
| 20:35.03 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:35.07 | Shirik | I'm not building a .NET app |
| 20:35.16 | Shirik | (that implies it's incorrect, lol) |
| 20:35.17 | |Pixel| | maybe it's another framework then :) |
| 20:35.31 | Shirik | no I think the article is spot on |
| 20:35.37 | Shirik | I think I have it configured for .NET and don't intend to |
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| 20:41.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, new laptop is here |
| 20:41.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I wasn't expecting it until the 22nd |
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| 20:42.52 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: which one? |
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| 20:45.11 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: heavily customized Dell Vostro 1500 |
| 20:45.21 | cladhaire | anyone here familiar with javascript/jquery? |
| 20:45.22 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: cheap, and I'm expecting well over 8 hours of battery life out of it |
| 20:46.24 | Josh_Borke | no, but i know a bunch of people who are |
| 20:46.25 | Saint-N | running dos on it eh? |
| 20:46.41 | Shirik | so apparently that error message means I'm missing a DLL |
| 20:46.43 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 20:46.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Linux ;) |
| 20:46.52 | Shirik | whatever happened to the simple message "Could not find required DLL ____" |
| 20:46.53 | Saint-N | close enough ;P |
| 20:47.06 | Shirik | no, now we have to be all cryptic "The Side-By-Side Configuration is Incorrect" |
| 20:48.20 | Saint-N | duh |
| 20:48.34 | zenzelezz | might depend on how it loads the DLL |
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| 20:50.22 | Shirik | hahahaha what a great song |
| 20:50.25 | Shirik | "Twisted Transistor" |
| 20:50.30 | Shirik | I need to show this to my EE professor |
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| 20:52.42 | kd3 | oh gah. good thing I'm not at work |
| 20:53.34 | kd3 | the wikileaks coverage of the tibet riots got dugg. very, very nsfw{ork,eak stomachs} |
| 20:56.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Haha oh wow, I've had this laptop on for 10 minutes and IE already crashed and burned on me |
| 20:56.45 | Saint-N | fear |
| 20:56.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Time to pop, hmm |
| 20:57.01 | ScytheBlade1 | CentOS or Debian |
| 20:57.09 | Saint-N | debian |
| 20:57.13 | Saint-N | unless its a server |
| 20:57.16 | Saint-N | ;) |
| 20:57.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah laptop |
| 20:57.26 | Saint-N | centos makes babies cry |
| 20:57.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I really like it tbh |
| 20:57.40 | Saint-N | its a nice server platform but ive found it to be a horible desktop |
| 20:57.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That's a good point |
| 20:57.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I've yet to really use it on a desktop |
| 20:57.53 | Vangual | religious question alert |
| 20:57.59 | ScytheBlade1 | :o |
| 20:58.00 | Saint-N | you could however install etch |
| 20:58.03 | Saint-N | and openvps |
| 20:58.03 | kd3 | vim > emacs |
| 20:58.06 | Saint-N | or xen |
| 20:58.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 20:58.09 | ScytheBlade1 | What kd3 said |
| 20:58.31 | Saint-N | and just run whatever you feel like that day ;P |
| 20:58.44 | Vangual | i like that idea :) |
| 21:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Boo |
| 21:00.14 | ScytheBlade1 | No COM port on this :( |
| 21:00.25 | Saint-N | GASP! |
| 21:00.39 | Saint-N | how are you gonna hook up a mouse? |
| 21:01.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 21:01.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Maybe a bluetooth serial adapter |
| 21:01.09 | ScytheBlade1 | That'd work |
| 21:02.37 | kamdis | Why, when you tell people "no you can't do that with an addon" do they respond with "anyone else?" |
| 21:02.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Because they don't want to hear the answer |
| 21:02.54 | ScytheBlade1 | They want to hear theirs |
| 21:03.10 | kamdis | Maybe I should have told him, sure go ahead and modify the blizzard files. |
| 21:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:03.27 | ScytheBlade1 | "See where that gets you!" |
| 21:03.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Debian it is |
| 21:04.08 | Vangual | just sit back and enjoy the thought of them wasting more time waiting :) |
| 21:06.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm, I need to update my debian PXE installer |
| 21:06.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Holy crap they released something |
| 21:09.16 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: where is that thread? |
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| 21:09.26 | kamdis | weather effects one |
| 21:09.40 | kamdis | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784546171&sid=1 |
| 21:10.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, that was a tame response |
| 21:11.02 | Syzgyn | Is anyone else not able to download anything from WoWI? |
| 21:11.02 | kamdis | meh |
| 21:11.11 | kamdis | they're all on my nerves today |
| 21:11.37 | Shirik | Syzgyn: Aware of it and looking into it, but thanks |
| 21:11.42 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784524619&sid=1 |
| 21:11.55 | Syzgyn | ok, just making sure |
| 21:11.56 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: and then http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5835557275&postId=57837368460&sid=1#0 |
| 21:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | In other news |
| 21:12.58 | ScytheBlade1 | The stopbadware.org page for incgamers just hit wowinsider |
| 21:13.05 | Shirik | oopsie |
| 21:13.11 | ScytheBlade1 | AND it's in the FF filter |
| 21:13.13 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahahahahaha |
| 21:13.14 | kamdis | hahaha SB1 you're a script kiddie |
| 21:13.16 | kamdis | lol |
| 21:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/04/14/wowui-incgamers-com-invaded-by-malware/ |
| 21:13.23 | ScytheBlade1 | kamdis: yeah, apparently :( |
| 21:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | "popular addon site wowui.incgamers.com (not linked for obvious reasons) is apparently passing off bad files, according to reports from Stopbadware.org and other anonymous sources." |
| 21:14.29 | wereHamster | why doesn't incgamers just close down? |
| 21:14.43 | nevcairiel | hahaha thats so great |
| 21:14.47 | nevcairiel | FF blacklist ftw |
| 21:15.05 | foxlit | Why is the UI community so vocal with incgamers hate? :( |
| 21:15.08 | cladhaire | Rushster: Guys its a false reading. We are getting it sorted with google chumps (10 hours ago) |
| 21:15.20 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:15.22 | nevcairiel | i love that feature in FF3 |
| 21:15.24 | foxlit | the wowi "their downloader was removed" announcement sounds like Nelson's "Ha ha!" |
| 21:15.37 | ScytheBlade1 | They have incredibly poor public relations, let's put it that way |
| 21:15.53 | nevcairiel | anyone who gets that page once when trying to access wowui will probably never ever go there again |
| 21:16.09 | ScytheBlade1 | If they took the time and effort to tell their users when bad things(C) happen, they'd likely have perfectly acceptable karma |
| 21:17.26 | Cairenn | Syzgyn: there's a problem with our download server, getting it sorted out now (wowi) |
| 21:18.12 | Shirik | All the addons got deleted, so we're going to curse and wowace to go download all the addons and fill up our server again |
| 21:18.21 | Shirik | I'm just kidding of course :P |
| 21:18.21 | cladhaire | O.o |
| 21:18.29 | Syzgyn | Cairenn: I figured, just wanted to make sure my internet wasnt dying |
| 21:18.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ cloning curse + wowace |
| 21:18.45 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 21:18.55 | wereHamster | Shirik, I hope they will not use wowui.incgamers :P |
| 21:18.56 | Cairenn | Syzgyn: appreciate the heads up, in case we hadn't been aware :) |
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| 21:19.37 | Syzgyn | no problem |
| 21:19.59 | Tem | rofl |
| 21:20.15 | Tem | they copied wowi's updated mods list |
| 21:20.27 | MentalPower | Tem: link? |
| 21:20.30 | Tem | ony it looks 1000x worse |
| 21:20.35 | Tem | http://wowui.worldofwar.net/?p=browse&x=patch&pg=1&sb=newrating&so=down |
| 21:21.26 | Syzgyn | what the fux? |
| 21:22.00 | Syzgyn | thats not even usable in Opera |
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| 21:22.51 | Cairenn | okay, downloads from WoWI should be working again |
| 21:23.12 | Syzgyn | indeed! thanks :D |
| 21:25.50 | Syzgyn | Ok, so I load my mod with nothing else enabled, then we I reload or relog, my disembedded copies of rockComm, console, db, event, and timer turn on, then throw an error because librock isnt enabled. wtf? |
| 21:28.25 | Cairenn | (2008-04-14 17:12:49) cladhaire: Rushster: Guys its a false reading. We are getting it sorted with google chumps (10 hours ago) <== o.O |
| 21:28.32 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 21:28.38 | Tem | The imaturity is amazing |
| 21:28.38 | Cairenn | "google chumps"?! |
| 21:28.43 | cladhaire | cause clearly google is wrong |
| 21:28.49 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 21:29.06 | Syzgyn | it's been know to happen |
| 21:29.16 | cladhaire | yes, but this isn't that case |
| 21:29.21 | cladhaire | and the entire community knows it |
| 21:29.22 | Syzgyn | I agree, just saying |
| 21:29.26 | cladhaire | hopefully they can get it resolved |
| 21:29.27 | Kody- | Google said there was a pizza hut out in the woods across the street from my house! |
| 21:29.32 | cladhaire | but google isn't wrong :P |
| 21:29.36 | Syzgyn | heh |
| 21:29.38 | cladhaire | Kody-: then go get pizza |
| 21:29.39 | Cairenn | that as may be, is that really the way to respond? calling google a bunch of chumps? |
| 21:29.39 | cladhaire | its not wrong! |
| 21:30.13 | Cairenn | is if it was though, ^^ |
| 21:30.54 | Tem | even if google was wrong calling google a bunch of chumps is a terrible idea |
| 21:31.23 | Shirik | yeah, that's what got me |
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| 21:33.39 | kamdis | Regardless, I am definitely doubtful of Google's success in maintaining it's "don't be evil" mantra. |
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| 21:34.00 | cladhaire | i don't disagree, but how so? |
| 21:34.54 | kamdis | Many things, including the recent invasion of privacy case (how they handled it more than what happened) and the whole secretive buying up of dark fiber gig. |
| 21:35.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Recent invasion of privacy case? |
| 21:35.16 | cladhaire | how is the dark fiber sketchy? |
| 21:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently they handeled it pretty well, as I didn't hear about it |
| 21:35.25 | cladhaire | lots of companies are buying up dark fiber |
| 21:35.38 | ScytheBlade1 | (Well for them ;)) |
| 21:36.01 | Shirik | YES! You know, Java is the easiest VM to crash ever |
| 21:36.02 | kamdis | Couple in Pennsylvania, house is down a long driveway hidden by large hedge row. Google's people went down the private driveway to take a picture of their house for the Google Maps "street view" |
| 21:36.08 | Shirik | do one tiny mistake and it blows up in your face |
| 21:36.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh that |
| 21:36.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I heard about that |
| 21:36.30 | kamdis | I just wonder what they are goign to do with the gigantic amount of it they have allegedly bought |
| 21:36.31 | ScytheBlade1 | What happened with it? |
| 21:36.49 | kamdis | Google's response to the street view thing, "We would ahve taken it down if you'd just asked" |
| 21:36.55 | kamdis | But that's wholly beside the point |
| 21:37.15 | kamdis | Private Property |
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| 21:37.30 | MentalPower | kamdis: is it fenced? |
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| 21:37.36 | MentalPower | is it marked as private? |
| 21:37.53 | kamdis | Well I haven't been there, but as I understand it, yes to both. |
| 21:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | The road the house was on was, yes |
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| 21:38.06 | ScytheBlade1 | The house itself didn't have any signs iirc |
| 21:38.13 | Shirik | heh, I like my apartment complex. Too bad Google doesnt' come down here |
| 21:38.15 | kamdis | well, the house shouldn't have to |
| 21:38.24 | kamdis | the fence should |
| 21:38.31 | ScytheBlade1 | True |
| 21:38.31 | Shirik | we have the entire area marked as private, it's fun every so often we get salespeople and once one was removed by police |
| 21:38.40 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 21:38.51 | kamdis | brb |
| 21:39.32 | Shirik | The complex owners put up little signs a few months ago "Please remember that the entire area is marked as private property and no tresspassing. Please continue to report door-to-door salesmen, they have been very persistent but they are being dealt with harshly!" |
| 21:39.35 | Shirik | I was like.... wow. |
| 21:39.51 | Shirik | at the bottom of that notice was "Oh yeah, rent is due tomorrow" of course :P |
| 21:41.23 | Shirik | You know what's one feature that's missing from Visual Studio? Ability to attach a debugger from another program |
| 21:41.32 | Shirik | like have that program make some sort of call that will cause visual studio to attach to it |
| 21:43.26 | ScytheBlade1 | <3 netbooting linux installs |
| 21:43.59 | wereHamster | Shirik, like `gdb attach $pid` ? |
| 21:44.07 | Shirik | well no, I can do that |
| 21:44.10 | Shirik | from visual studio |
| 21:44.21 | ScytheBlade1 | You can attach gdb from VS eh |
| 21:44.28 | Shirik | but that means I have to go to visual studio and hit attach |
| 21:44.44 | Shirik | I want to be in the program and have it cause visual studio to be attached |
| 21:44.44 | wereHamster | you want the application to make VS attach to it? |
| 21:44.48 | Shirik | yeah |
| 21:45.03 | Shirik | sounds odd but this is really getting old really fast >< |
| 21:45.09 | Shirik | I have to manually attach every time |
| 21:45.33 | wereHamster | why do you need that? why not start the app from VS so it's attached to from the very begining? |
| 21:45.48 | Shirik | Because my app is a DLL that's running in Java |
| 21:45.55 | Shirik | so I need to start the Java app first, which then loads the DLL |
| 21:46.04 | Shirik | I can't attach until the DLL is loaded |
| 21:46.42 | Shirik | Which means I have to start up the Java program in Netbeans, add a breakpoint just after the DLL is loaded, attach visual studio when that breakpoint is hit, then go back to netbeans, hit continue, and wait to hit my breakpoint in visual studio |
| 21:46.46 | wereHamster | evil |
| 21:46.48 | Shirik | every.... single.... time... |
| 21:47.44 | wereHamster | does windows have something like AppleScript for scripting applications? |
| 21:47.52 | Shirik | there's a VBScript |
| 21:47.58 | Shirik | not sure what AppleScript is so I don't really know |
| 21:48.06 | MentalPower | same thing |
| 21:48.29 | wereHamster | so use VBScript to make VS attach to your app :) |
| 21:48.40 | Shirik | I don't really know VB |
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| 21:49.12 | Industrial | wah VB |
| 21:49.34 | Duman | feh |
| 21:49.51 | Duman | wtb working realm :( |
| 21:49.52 | Shirik | and the most annoying part of attaching to the java program |
| 21:50.00 | Shirik | is searching through the entire list of processes to find which process I need to attach to |
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| 22:01.58 | zenzelezz | "RESILIENCE CARECLUB" o_O |
| 22:03.08 | Valaron|Work | ... |
| 22:03.16 | Adys | Anyone has a pagetextcache.wdb they could upload? (>1kb if possible) |
| 22:04.17 | zenzelezz | 28 bytes O_o |
| 22:04.30 | Adys | yea 28 bytes is empty unfortunately |
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| 22:07.30 | wereHamster | http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4128183/Eve_Online_Source(client_side)_Code <- only 2MB? |
| 22:07.47 | Adys | it must be compressed |
| 22:07.55 | Shirik | that's one hell of a compression algorithm |
| 22:09.17 | MentalPower | comments are odd... |
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| 22:09.32 | MentalPower | ususally TPB users post when a file is fake |
| 22:09.53 | wereHamster | it has lots of python code in it |
| 22:09.59 | wereHamster | ~10MB uncompressed |
| 22:10.20 | Adys | Like that guy said, no wonder there are so many bugs then! |
| 22:11.06 | amro | can\'t stand escape codes |
| 22:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoops |
| 22:14.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I installed i386 debian, not x86_64 :( |
| 22:14.10 | Drundia | 97%, dailies reset in ~3 hours and there is like 100 people standing on silly badge vendor... |
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| 22:16.09 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: Debian doesn't have i386 anymore. They dropped it and switched to i486. |
| 22:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | That's interesting |
| 22:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
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| 22:17.17 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: i386 is really, really out-dated. Even the Pentium II (Or even Pentium I) supports i686. |
| 22:17.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes.... and? |
| 22:18.31 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.us.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 22:18.33 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: 2.1.2.1. " However, Debian GNU/Linux etch will not run on 386 or earlier processors. Despite the architecture name "i386", support for actual 80386 processors (and their clones) was dropped with the Sarge (r3.1) release of Debian[2]. (No version of Linux has ever supported the 286 or earlier chips in the series.) All i486 and later processors are still supported[3]." |
| 22:18.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah so |
| 22:18.58 | ScytheBlade1 | I installed debian as it was labeled 'i386' |
| 22:18.59 | MentalPower | so? |
| 22:19.46 | ScytheBlade1 | All debian documentation concerning 32-bit Intel compat releases are labeled 'i386' |
| 22:20.09 | Polarina | But it isn't supported despite the naming. |
| 22:20.17 | MentalPower | so/ |
| 22:20.19 | MentalPower | ? |
| 22:20.27 | ScytheBlade1 | So the entire x86 line of debian is unsupported? |
| 22:20.28 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1 never argued that |
| 22:21.07 | MentalPower | night clad|sleep |
| 22:21.09 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: No. |
| 22:21.29 | Polarina | ScytheBlade1: The i386 is not supported, but i486 and newer are supported. |
| 22:22.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I said I installed i386 /as it was labeled/ - ie, their x86 version. Nothing more |
| 22:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Installing debian i386 will give you 686 unless you tell it otherwise, or it detects otherwise. That doesn't mean that i386 is wrong in this case |
| 22:23.08 | MentalPower | ~ubuntu |
| 22:23.09 | Polarina | Ok. |
| 22:23.38 | MentalPower | purl: you suck |
| 22:23.39 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 22:23.49 | MentalPower | ~factinfo ubuntu |
| 22:23.49 | purl | there's no such factoid as ubuntu, MentalPower |
| 22:23.54 | MentalPower | o rly? |
| 22:23.55 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.58 | MentalPower | there used to be one |
| 22:24.23 | MentalPower | it was like "ubuntu is an african word meaning 'I can't install debian'" or somesuch |
| 22:24.47 | kamdis | haha |
| 22:24.59 | Mikk | hahaha |
| 22:25.07 | Yssaril | if i ever want to start messing with linux what would be the best distro to start with? |
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| 22:25.19 | clad|sleep | slackware ftw lol |
| 22:25.20 | MentalPower | Yssaril: desktop or server? |
| 22:25.36 | JoshBorke | clad|sleep: f that, lfs ftw! |
| 22:25.45 | clad|sleep | :P |
| 22:25.46 | Polarina | Yssaril: Depending on your strict definition of "messing", Gentoo is the way to go. |
| 22:25.48 | Yssaril | MentalPower, could go either way :) |
| 22:25.59 | MentalPower | desktop ubuntu, server centos |
| 22:26.26 | MentalPower | tho both of those can do the other if you really want to |
| 22:26.39 | pastamancer | I use ubuntu 6.06 LTS on servers |
| 22:26.44 | clad|sleep | how is gentoo a starter distro Polarina |
| 22:26.44 | MentalPower | see? |
| 22:26.45 | clad|sleep | O.o |
| 22:26.55 | Polarina | clad|sleep: It isn't. |
| 22:27.10 | clad|sleep | so why on earth would you reccomend it as such? |
| 22:27.29 | Polarina | clad|sleep: Dependant on his definition of "messing", that is. |
| 22:27.29 | Yssaril | my idea of messing is i will be falling aslleep with the manual for a couple days before actually starting it up :) |
| 22:27.46 | Mikk | you want one of the easier ones i think |
| 22:27.48 | Mikk | definitely not slack |
| 22:27.53 | Polarina | Yssaril: Yep, then Gentoo is the way to go. |
| 22:27.54 | clad|sleep | Polarina: are you thick-headed on purpose, are you trolling, or are you actually serious |
| 22:27.59 | End | You'd definitely fall asleep :P |
| 22:28.02 | Polarina | Yssaril: http://www.gentoo.org/ |
| 22:28.07 | End | while waiting for it to compile :P |
| 22:28.13 | clad|sleep | oh lord |
| 22:28.14 | Mikk | slack is "i want to compile everything myself and i know all the dependencies and versions and libs and everything" |
| 22:28.14 | Polarina | clad|sleep: A mix of these three, I guess. |
| 22:28.17 | Mikk | it's a fricking pain |
| 22:28.18 | MentalPower | Yssaril: are you human? you actually read manuals *before* using software? |
| 22:28.19 | clad|sleep | Polarina: well, stop it. |
| 22:28.25 | clad|sleep | Polarina: its obnoxious |
| 22:28.56 | Yssaril | MentalPower, actually i doe read manuals /sigh even read my TI-86 and TI-98 manuals cover to cover :P |
| 22:29.10 | MentalPower | you're human? :P |
| 22:29.12 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 22:29.19 | Polarina | clad|sleep: Try not to involve yourself into things not related to you. It can save your life one day. |
| 22:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Yssaril: I've done the same |
| 22:29.26 | MentalPower | Polarina: stop it |
| 22:29.28 | Cide | hahaha |
| 22:29.29 | clad|sleep | Polarina: excuse me? |
| 22:29.30 | ScytheBlade1 | (DON'T JUDGE ME, CHANNEL) |
| 22:29.33 | MentalPower | Polarina: second warning |
| 22:29.40 | clad|sleep | Polarina: you have no more relation to this conversation than I do |
| 22:29.46 | clad|sleep | yet your ass is all over it |
| 22:29.46 | wereHamster | End, actually once you have a basic system, compiling the few additional packages isn't that big issue. Just today I had to install gimp on my laptop, I started emerge and did some other things in the meantime and when I was finished gimp was installed. Didn't take 5 minutes |
| 22:29.47 | clad|sleep | being stupid |
| 22:29.49 | Polarina | clad|sleep: Did I say that? |
| 22:29.53 | Yssaril | MentalPower, idk just find it realxing to read a manual i guess :) |
| 22:30.00 | MentalPower | Yssaril: fair nuf |
| 22:30.10 | Polarina | clad|sleep: Now go back to sleep, won't ya? ;) |
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| 22:30.15 | Cide | I only read manuals when I get stuck and am desperate |
| 22:30.18 | Cide | Polarina: shut up |
| 22:30.29 | clad|sleep | wow |
| 22:30.34 | End | wereHamster: I had a lot of things to install :P |
| 22:30.54 | Shirik | qqqqqq |
| 22:31.02 | Shirik | # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:## EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x6d938db6, pid=3156, tid=6612 |
| 22:31.09 | Shirik | I should go pick up something like philosophy |
| 22:31.13 | Shirik | at least I wouldn't want to shoot myself |
| 22:31.14 | wereHamster | obviously the basic system takes a while, but once you're done it's not much worse then any other system IMO |
| 22:31.17 | MentalPower | Yssaril: at any rate, one of the "starter" distros is definitely better. CentOS & Ubuntu are my two recommendations |
| 22:31.33 | clad|sleep | Polarina: seriously, I don't want you continuing that crap in here, all it does it stir up nonsense, and we have no need for that |
| 22:31.47 | Yssaril | MentalPower, thanks man will lookem up and print their manuals :) |
| 22:32.00 | JoshBorke | i second mentals nomination |
| 22:32.02 | MentalPower | Yssaril: I hope you have lots of paper (and ink) :P |
| 22:32.07 | Polarina | clad|sleep: Why are you rejecting Gentoo? Bad experience with it, eh? I know how it is... *pat* |
| 22:32.20 | MentalPower | Polarina: thats not the issue |
| 22:32.22 | JoshBorke | gentoo is just bad advice as a starter distro |
| 22:32.23 | Yssaril | MentalPower, i work at kinkos so thats really not a problem :) |
| 22:32.34 | clad|sleep | Polarina: This has absolutely nothing to do with Gentoo, and has to do with you purposely twisting questions in order to give ridiculous answers |
| 22:32.36 | wereHamster | JoshBorke, true that.. |
| 22:32.37 | MentalPower | Polarina: the issue is that gentoo is *not* a distro for someone to start learning linux with |
| 22:32.38 | clad|sleep | sure, I can shave my ass with a spoon |
| 22:32.41 | clad|sleep | but its a bad fucking idea |
| 22:32.50 | Shirik | Gentoo is nice, I use it now, but if I used it as my first distro I probably would be scared of Linux to this day |
| 22:32.56 | clad|sleep | sure, depending on my definition of "efficient" you could suggest it |
| 22:33.44 | Polarina | clad|sleep: You encouraged me... |
| 22:33.53 | clad|sleep | this is not about gentoo, its about you doing this, all the time. |
| 22:33.59 | clad|sleep | What in the hell are you talking about? |
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| 22:34.55 | clad|sleep | Yssaril: sorry about that, but I have problems when people on the internet are being wrong |
| 22:35.16 | Yssaril | clad|sleep, hehe np |
| 22:35.18 | MentalPower | yay! |
| 22:35.33 | Shirik | "Honey, it's time for dinner!" "I can't! Someone is WRONG on the INTERNET!" |
| 22:35.38 | End | lol |
| 22:35.53 | Yssaril | clad|sleep, i have developed a filter for stupid people form the wowacechannel :P |
| 22:36.07 | clad|sleep | Polarina is hardly stupid, that's the most frustrating part |
| 22:36.12 | clad|sleep | initially I thought it was a language barrier |
| 22:36.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yssaril, if that can be programmatically shared, I'm all for it. |
| 22:36.16 | clad|sleep | and that's part of it |
| 22:36.25 | pastamancer | even fisker and sag_ich aren't as bad as polarina |
| 22:36.30 | End | Polarina has some strange ideas about things |
| 22:36.32 | Yssaril | Lopeppeppy, ?? |
| 22:36.34 | clad|sleep | but he has this innate ability to twist any conversation to be about whatever he wants to talk about at a given moment |
| 22:36.42 | clad|sleep | and its maddening |
| 22:36.47 | pastamancer | clad|sleep: innate or innane :p |
| 22:37.04 | End | can't it be both? |
| 22:37.13 | amro | I'd say it's both |
| 22:37.13 | clad|sleep | pastamancer: yes :P |
| 22:37.19 | deltron | guy in my guild says there's a keylogger in a mod named mbb |
| 22:37.22 | Yssaril | hehe some people just think its all about them |
| 22:37.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yssaril, a neat new filter for my Trillian so that I dont' have to see. |
| 22:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | deltron, where are they getting their mbb, because mine works fine and has no 'loggers. |
| 22:37.40 | Yssaril | Lopeppeppy, ahaha |
| 22:37.54 | deltron | Lopeppeppy: he said wowinterface.com |
| 22:38.00 | Yssaril | Lopeppeppy, is't more of a mental thing :) |
| 22:38.09 | clad|sleep | what is MBB? |
| 22:38.11 | Lopeppeppy | Like Cairenn is going to let a logger onto her site? |
| 22:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | Minimap Button Bag, or something similar. |
| 22:38.22 | Shirik | oh sure |
| 22:38.34 | Shirik | Cairenn|afk gets all the credit T_T |
| 22:38.40 | clad|sleep | hasn't been updated since feb 21-2007 |
| 22:38.57 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, go sniff out some logger reports and prove 'em wrong! |
| 22:39.01 | clad|sleep | .tga, .lua, .toc, .xml |
| 22:39.08 | Shirik | I can't, Java is too busy segfaulting on me |
| 22:39.10 | clad|sleep | so i'm gonna say no :P |
| 22:39.14 | Cide | Shirik: dinner? the comic was about going to bed |
| 22:39.19 | Shirik | ah whatever |
| 22:39.23 | Shirik | I don't memorize things well :P |
| 22:39.35 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 22:39.35 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:40.17 | Lopeppeppy | deltron, I think there's a more updated version somewhere, let me see.... Yup. http://files.wowace.com/sw-m.html |
| 22:40.48 | kamdis | Likely it's coincidence of installing the mod and noticing the keylogger that come from clicking links on the internet. |
| 22:41.04 | deltron | Lopeppeppy: heh my server just crashed, trying to get more info form him |
| 22:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | What Kamdis said. *nod* |
| 22:41.24 | kamdis | it's the samn internets I tell you |
| 22:41.29 | kamdis | ;-) |
| 22:41.32 | kamdis | *damn |
| 22:45.19 | Nechckn | clad|sleep Shave, Spoon ROFL!!! |
| 22:45.34 | clad|sleep | heh |
| 22:45.51 | Nechckn | I swear the tears are just dying down now... I was not here and just was reading backwards |
| 22:46.11 | Yssaril | need an opinion i am working on a questlog replacement and this is what i have so far it will also be able to share questlogs between other people using the same addon wich are in your guild/party/raid/friendslist http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1377/questlogys3.jpg what do you think and what do i need to improve? |
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| 22:46.23 | Nechckn | eeeshh... Good point though- sorry to /beat <deadhorse> =) |
| 22:46.50 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 22:46.52 | deltron | I can't find mbb on wowinterface.com anymore hmm |
| 22:47.01 | clad|sleep | deltron: its there, search for Minimap |
| 22:47.03 | JoshBorke | Yssaril: yes, get a bettter font |
| 22:47.04 | ScytheBlade1 | part of the topic in #debian: "THIS IS NOT #ubuntu" |
| 22:47.32 | kamdis | MMB on wowi http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6764-MinimapButtonBag.html |
| 22:47.39 | JoshBorke | Yssaril: i take it Bust is the player name? |
| 22:47.45 | Yssaril | JoshBorke, hehe any suggestions (or should i just enable sharedmedia) |
| 22:47.47 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: you have no idea how necessary it is |
| 22:47.49 | Yssaril | JoshBorke, yep |
| 22:48.17 | JoshBorke | Yssaril: i have no adea about the font, but the description and solanian's belongings is hard to read |
| 22:48.25 | MentalPower | whats the key combination to close a single tab in FF? |
| 22:48.27 | JoshBorke | Yssaril: if at all possible, i think you should add the quest level |
| 22:48.33 | JoshBorke | ctrl+w |
| 22:48.49 | Yssaril | JoshBorke, totaly forgot about that will add it :) |
| 22:49.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: I can only imagine |
| 22:49.20 | JoshBorke | Yssaril: if it a quest that you own, you should add open in questlog or some way to abandon or share |
| 22:49.21 | Adys | :P |
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| 22:49.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: want to help me out? ;) |
| 22:50.02 | Adys | Sure |
| 22:50.14 | Yssaril | JoshBorke, k already on the todolist :) |
| 22:50.15 | Nechckn | Yssaril nice, big space for the actual quest titles and such- that is very cool |
| 22:50.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Have a newer intel video card. X3100. Driver is in unstable. |
| 22:50.31 | ScytheBlade1 | If I enable unstable, I can't install xorg-x11. If I disable it, it installs fine. |
| 22:50.34 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf?! |
| 22:50.52 | Adys | cant install xorg how? |
| 22:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | apt-get install xorg-x11 |
| 22:51.13 | Adys | yeah what does it say/do ? :p |
| 22:51.20 | Adys | it should install fine |
| 22:51.27 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: sudo rm -rf / |
| 22:51.31 | Shirik | emerge gentoo |
| 22:51.45 | Nechckn | Yssaril may I also suggest support for LiteHeaded, please- that is a real time saver |
| 22:51.52 | Yssaril | any suggestions of how the frame should look currently its jsut the default AceGUI frame (am definatly gonna get rid of the error bar and the close button :) |
| 22:51.55 | Shirik | <3 |
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| 22:52.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Adys: now that I've disabled unstable, installed X, and reenabled... it's working |
| 22:52.27 | Adys | i dont get it, you cant install x or you cant use x? |
| 22:52.29 | Yssaril | Nechckn, can look into havent really used it myself |
| 22:52.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Install |
| 22:52.53 | Adys | what does it say if you try |
| 22:52.54 | Nechckn | Yssaril please do, it is quite the helpful item =) |
| 22:53.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, here we go. The driver (xserver-xorg-video-intel) is giving me crap now. |
| 22:53.35 | Yssaril | Nechckn, kk |
| 22:53.42 | Nechckn | Yssaril now you said this is meant to share quests- how will you know how many have the same quest, etc? |
| 22:53.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got xorg installed from stable, the driver is in unstable. Trying to install said driver, gives me crap |
| 22:53.50 | ScytheBlade1 | (sec) |
| 22:54.03 | Adys | update and force unstables |
| 22:54.06 | ScytheBlade1 | "Depends: xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.4) but it is not going to be installed" |
| 22:54.12 | ScytheBlade1 | So I'm going to assume version crap |
| 22:54.23 | Adys | uhm |
| 22:54.24 | Nechckn | s/know how many have/know how many people in your party have |
| 22:54.25 | Yssaril | Nechckn, quests will be flagged you also having it in the tree |
| 22:54.26 | ScytheBlade1 | mmkay. how? :) |
| 22:54.37 | Nechckn | ah, okey dokey |
| 22:54.46 | Adys | msg me your repos ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:55.30 | Yssaril | Nechckn, thank god for quest id/links makes it much easier to share and figure out if its the same |
| 22:55.34 | Nechckn | Yssaril also re: frame- it's nice to see a clean frame imo removing close and such is cool too |
| 22:56.01 | Yssaril | Nechckn, close will be a X at the top right i think |
| 22:56.03 | Nechckn | Yssaril indeed, rather than needing some fuzzy logic, etc |
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| 22:56.46 | Yssaril | Nechckn, about fuzzylogic how about scanning every spellid to get the at the spelllink for a spell reward :) |
| 22:57.06 | Yssaril | s/the at the/at the |
| 22:57.09 | kd3 | eesh at the US vindication battlegroup |
| 22:59.14 | Nechckn | Yssaril hmm- no thanks! =) |
| 22:59.46 | Yssaril | Nechckn, only way to do it atm aside from hardcoding in every quest with a spellreward |
| 23:00.23 | clad|sleep | i can give you a db of every quest with a spell reward |
| 23:00.27 | clad|sleep | should be easy to store |
| 23:00.31 | clad|sleep | gimme a minute. |
| 23:00.40 | Nechckn | wooo- now there you go! |
| 23:01.13 | amro | using ip geolocation for localization = epic fail |
| 23:01.21 | clad|sleep | indeed |
| 23:01.28 | Yssaril | clad|sleep, yea but that could change and then id have to update it :P this way it will always able to find it |
| 23:01.44 | clad|sleep | *shrug* |
| 23:02.23 | Yssaril | MentalPower, why does the centos documentation say redhat in front? centos == redhat then i assume? |
| 23:02.58 | isman | can someone give me the script to obtain the frame name when mouseover it plz ? :| |
| 23:03.20 | amro | isman: get DevTools |
| 23:03.33 | isman | oh, tyvm :) |
| 23:03.37 | amro | Yssaril: CentOS is based on redhat |
| 23:03.48 | Cairenn | ~devtools |
| 23:03.48 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 23:03.48 | Yssaril | isman, get where's my cow http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7186-WheresMyCow.html |
| 23:04.31 | clad|sleep | Nechckn: Yssaril: http://cladhaire.pastey.net/85791 for what its worth |
| 23:04.32 | MentalPower | Yssaril: amro is correct, CentOS == RedHat Enterprise Linux |
| 23:04.44 | clad|sleep | qid, spellid, "spell" and spell name |
| 23:04.54 | Yssaril | kk thanks amro/mentalpower |
| 23:04.54 | MentalPower | Yssaril: the only difference is the removal of redhat logos from the distro |
| 23:05.32 | Yssaril | clad how did you get those? |
| 23:06.10 | clad|sleep | for k,v in pairs(questDB) do if v.rewards and v.rewards.learn the for idx,entry in ipairs(v.rewards.learn) do print(k, entry.id, entry.type, entry.name) end end end |
| 23:06.12 | Yssaril | clad|sleep, cause if i hardcode it then i should be able to update it myself :) |
| 23:06.54 | Yssaril | where can i get the questDB :) |
| 23:07.23 | *** join/#wowuidev SinPi (i=sinus@aaov220.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:07.34 | clad|sleep | you'd have to parse wowhead for it |
| 23:07.44 | Yssaril | ah |
| 23:08.08 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:08.12 | clad|sleep | goodnight all! |
| 23:08.18 | Duman | I can't seem to hit wowwiki |
| 23:08.29 | kd3 | it's slowwiki right now. wikia techs are working on it |
| 23:08.42 | Duman | ahh there it goes |
| 23:08.43 | Duman | ahh |
| 23:09.04 | Yssaril | anyone have any documentation on how to parse wowhead for data? |
| 23:09.22 | kd3 | ask in #wowhead? |
| 23:10.11 | foxlit | <?whrl steal_dataz(true, true, false, 42); ?> |
| 23:10.37 | foxlit | Always does the trick! |
| 23:10.53 | foxlit | To be entirely honest, though, wowhead is a nightmare to parse properly |
| 23:11.30 | foxlit | format varies, crazy javascript is crazy; there's no geared export for anything |
| 23:11.48 | foxlit | I'd say they don't want you parsing them for data. |
| 23:12.08 | Yssaril | i guess i'll stick with my spell id scanner for now till blizz gives me getquestspellid() |
| 23:12.23 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:12.29 | Duman | gilneas seems up |
| 23:12.29 | Duman | 16 [target] 206.16.23.110:3724 48.6ms |
| 23:12.59 | ScytheBlade1 | hehe |
| 23:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | tcptraceroute ftw |
| 23:13.15 | Duman | hehe |
| 23:13.19 | Duman | well, lft - but same thing :) |
| 23:13.24 | Duman | (layerfourtraceroute) |
| 23:13.28 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah close enough ;) |
| 23:18.10 | kd3 | bah. forums slow... wiki slow... |
| 23:18.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (n=Arrow@cpe-71-64-143-75.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 23:22.34 | Yssaril | is there anyway to check the current wow client revision from an addon? |
| 23:23.53 | Esamynn | GetBuildInfo() iirc |
| 23:24.17 | Yssaril | Esamynn, ty |
| 23:27.30 | Adys | hah |
| 23:27.31 | Adys | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/04/14/2046246&from=rss |
| 23:27.36 | pastamancer | one gotcha with GetBuildInfo(), on the PTR the versions are 0.x rather then 2.x |
| 23:27.57 | Adys | MentalPower: see link above |
| 23:28.30 | *** part/#wowuidev ag` (n=ag`@0x535e8962.bynxx18.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 23:28.42 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 23:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5835088952&sid=1#4 |
| 23:28.46 | Yssaril | pastamancer, ty are the build numbers consecutive (aka 1 was their first build ever) or can those potentially decrease? |
| 23:29.28 | pastamancer | I'm not sure |
| 23:30.12 | pastamancer | I usually test for the existance of whatever new function I want to use in the new(er) version of wow |
| 23:30.16 | MentalPower | they're consecutive, so far as we've noticed anyways |
| 23:30.17 | kd3 | lol |
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| 23:30.30 | *** mode/#WoWUIDev [+v Legorol] by ChanServ |
| 23:31.09 | Yssaril | MentalPower, k (i just realized that i actually dont care if it increased or decreased but rather if it changed :) ) |
| 23:31.25 | pastamancer | justing from wdn, it always increases |
| 23:45.00 | JoshBorke | tekkub, website |
| 23:45.16 | JoshBorke | ~rasp tekkub |
| 23:54.30 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 23:54.42 | kd3 | EVE's client source code got leaked |
| 23:55.31 | ckknight | srsly? |
| 23:55.44 | kd3 | check /. |
| 23:56.11 | Shirik | Any emerge/portage/gentoo gurus here? |
| 23:56.36 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1! you! |
| 23:56.40 | Shirik | I know you use gentoo |
| 23:56.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Crap |
| 23:56.46 | ScytheBlade1 | He found me |
| 23:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | What's up? |
| 23:57.04 | Shirik | how do I change the flags on something I want to emerge |
| 23:57.13 | Shirik | I did emerge php but it says -apache2 |
| 23:57.18 | Shirik | and I want that in |
| 23:57.26 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Has a line like: |
| 23:57.30 | ScytheBlade1 | kde-base/kwin xcomposite |
| 23:57.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise your might have 'app-lang/php -apache2' |
| 23:58.02 | ScytheBlade1 | (Though I forget the exact package) |
| 23:58.18 | Shirik | you were close |
| 23:58.20 | Shirik | dev-lang/php |
| 23:58.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Likewise you can add/remove USE flags on a per-package basis |
| 23:59.02 | ScytheBlade1 | That is the offical way to do it |
