| 00:00.09 | NightHawkTheSane | hahaha |
| 00:01.34 | Shirik | hrm |
| 00:01.35 | Shirik | The server at search.msdn.microsoft.com is taking too long to respond. |
| 00:01.49 | Shirik | they banned me |
| 00:01.50 | Shirik | :( |
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| 00:09.14 | batrick | Shirik: I was calculating the absolute timeout |
| 00:09.27 | batrick | I don't know how windows does it, u may need to do soomething else |
| 00:09.30 | Shirik | so the timeouts youre passing are actual times, not relative times? |
| 00:09.35 | batrick | yes |
| 00:09.38 | Shirik | oops |
| 00:11.00 | Shirik | thats for cond var waits? |
| 00:11.11 | Shirik | and theyre always absolute? |
| 00:14.00 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, what's the difference between _AURA_APPLIED_DOSE and _AURA_APPLIED? |
| 00:14.14 | Shirik | the stacking debuff I would assume |
| 00:14.35 | Antiarc | Stacking debuffs |
| 00:14.47 | Antiarc | First dose of Deadly Poison is APPLIED, second stack is APPLIED_DOSE |
| 00:17.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, i see |
| 00:17.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i was wondering why ES didn't use the _DOSE version, but i guess its because all 6 (/mourn) charges are applied in the initial cast |
| 00:18.15 | lagger` | whats the macro cmd |
| 00:18.20 | lagger` | to equip an item to a certain slot |
| 00:18.43 | NightHawkTheSane | wowwiki.com |
| 00:19.56 | Kirov | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro |
| 00:20.10 | Kirov | (because they've hidden it on the redesign) |
| 00:25.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: a haha, nice screenshot |
| 00:26.48 | sylvanaar | i never noticed the ebnf syntax |
| 00:27.04 | Kirov | ebnf? |
| 00:27.23 | Shirik | extended bauchus naur form |
| 00:27.31 | Shirik | or however you spell it |
| 00:27.41 | Kirov | still? |
| 00:28.04 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:28.13 | Kirov | (as in still confused) |
| 00:28.14 | Shirik | ~wiki EBNF |
| 00:28.15 | sylvanaar | that makes the macro syntax seem less retarded |
| 00:28.31 | Shirik | its too complicated to explain by me >< |
| 00:29.41 | sylvanaar | when they introduced it, it just seemed like a lazy-script ripoff |
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| 00:31.16 | sylvanaar | i remember trying to make a tab-complete addon for macros, what a sad endeavour |
| 00:32.08 | sylvanaar | the whole premise was faulty, since as I later realized, you couldnt run the macro one you built it via tab completion |
| 00:32.50 | Kirov | sylvanaar - for writing it via the chat box? |
| 00:32.57 | sylvanaar | sure |
| 00:33.08 | sylvanaar | cause thats where you normally type em in |
| 00:33.23 | sylvanaar | if you are trying to write one |
| 00:34.15 | sylvanaar | in the end, i had it save to a macro slot, and you had to click an action button to test it |
| 00:35.16 | sylvanaar | having to do that was too messy, so i never finished it |
| 00:35.46 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 00:36.08 | sylvanaar | you realize all macros go through the chateditbox |
| 00:36.21 | Kirov | Yeah |
| 00:36.31 | Kirov | crazy parser |
| 00:36.38 | sylvanaar | yeah |
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| 00:37.35 | Tem|Work | Oh that's cool |
| 00:37.41 | Tem|Work | I never saw that ebnf |
| 00:37.57 | sylvanaar | yeah, makes the macros seem like less of a hack doesnt it |
| 00:38.15 | Tem|Work | considering I wrote it, I never really thought of it as a hack |
| 00:38.39 | Shirik | hey sylvanaar, you know C! |
| 00:38.41 | Tem|Work | but I must admit that I didn't go so far as to write out a grammar for it |
| 00:38.48 | Shirik | Ive never done this before so I dont know if Im doing it right |
| 00:39.05 | Shirik | I need.... a pointer to a list of function pointers >< is this right? void (**fnList)(void*); |
| 00:39.06 | sylvanaar | well, i didnt know who wrote it, i really thought they were just making it up as they went |
| 00:39.58 | Tem|Work | sylvanaar, there was a lot of discussion |
| 00:40.09 | sag_ich_nicht | TAUREN ROGUE IN IRONFORGE! |
| 00:40.14 | Tem|Work | it was certainly not just made up on the spot |
| 00:40.29 | Kirov | sylvanaar - you know, you could create a secure frame w/ a fake edit box via temporary key bindings that commits it's text to a macro-text that excecutes on enter |
| 00:40.48 | Kirov | But, I'm insane. |
| 00:41.09 | sylvanaar | Tem|Work no offense of course |
| 00:41.16 | Tem|Work | none taken |
| 00:41.22 | sylvanaar | Kirov yes |
| 00:41.31 | Kirov | wouldn't work in combat, which is a bitch |
| 00:41.43 | Corrodias | Tem|Work, you smell bad and are also dumb |
| 00:41.48 | Kirov | but nothing ever does |
| 00:41.52 | Tem|Work | Corrodias, meh |
| 00:41.53 | sylvanaar | Kirov actually a slash command works just fine /makemacro blah blah blah |
| 00:42.30 | Kirov | sylvanaar - well sure, but the fake edit box would allow it to act exactly like an edit box with out the taint. |
| 00:42.57 | sylvanaar | its still tainted |
| 00:43.21 | sylvanaar | all macros are |
| 00:43.59 | sylvanaar | until you save them that is |
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| 00:47.52 | Kirov | so ... /makemacro works in combat? |
| 00:48.30 | sylvanaar | i think you can save to a macro slot in combat, i dont know i might be wrong |
| 00:48.50 | Kirov | I don't think you can. That seems like a massive omition. |
| 00:49.04 | Kirov | Not outside of the default UI at least |
| 00:49.57 | Kirov | If you can, what stops you from just writing a program to constantly update a macro to do what you want for that particular moment, otherwise just having a "do nothing" macro that the user just hits repeatedly |
| 00:50.50 | Cide | well, there's a difference between updating a macro in combat, and programatically updating a macro in combat |
| 00:50.52 | Kirov | Again, the default ui macro frame is free from this limitation because it exists as a signed addon |
| 00:50.57 | Cide | but I don't know if the former is possible |
| 00:52.18 | Corrodias | it is |
| 00:52.29 | Kirov | Corrodias - using what method? |
| 00:52.47 | Corrodias | i've had to hastily edit my usual target macro to "/target demon" during an illhoof fight |
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| 00:52.57 | Corrodias | pulling up the /macro menu and changing what it says |
| 00:53.28 | sylvanaar | you can probably update it programmatically, but it will be tainted until combat ends |
| 00:53.31 | enum | so, I just realised that using GetSpellLink() will not return a link for any spell item that is not in your spell book. Would it be reasonable to assume that there is a way to get it since anyone can view a link to any spell info? |
| 00:53.43 | Corrodias | the former is possible, yes. the latter, modifying it programmatically, is not. or at least, authors seem to think it isn't. |
| 00:54.21 | MentalPower | enum: if you make a lootlink for spells sure |
| 00:54.25 | MentalPower | otherwise, no |
| 00:54.40 | enum | MentalPower: I'm trying to extract the ID from spell links atm |
| 00:54.54 | MentalPower | thats easy, regex |
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| 00:54.59 | enum | I've done that |
| 00:55.05 | MentalPower | ok, and? |
| 00:55.22 | Kirov | for i=1; 100000 do works wonders |
| 00:55.29 | enum | but, I'm doing this from the trainer window, not from the chat window. So therefore I can get the ID for any item that already exists in my spell book |
| 00:55.31 | Kirov | evil but effective, yay |
| 00:55.52 | sylvanaar | Shirik sorry i missed your question , did you figure it out? |
| 00:56.08 | Corrodias | should i play... psychonauts? |
| 00:56.14 | Shirik | I actually foudn out I need a list of structures containing functions anyway, so no worries :) |
| 00:56.20 | Kirov | Corrodias - have you not played it? |
| 00:56.25 | leethal | so, in order to hook into all combat log messages regarding my party/raid - do I have to keep a set of GUIDs and then match that up with the incoming GUIDs? |
| 00:56.29 | Yssaril | enum, the only way to get the link is if you know the spellid or its in yoru spellbook |
| 00:56.32 | leethal | incoming GUID* |
| 00:56.35 | Corrodias | i haven't! and i'm kinda searching for my next game to play |
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| 00:56.44 | Shirik | still I think batrick would kill me for having a pointer to a list of pointers to functions |
| 00:56.46 | Corrodias | i flirted with civ4, but it still isn't my kind of game |
| 00:57.04 | Kirov | Corrodias - psychonauts is an excellent game |
| 00:57.12 | enum | Kirov: I second that |
| 00:57.19 | leethal | or is it possible to create some kind of filter? I think I read something 'bout that, so that you get only the messages you care about in the first place, without having to check it every time the event occurs. |
| 00:58.00 | MentalPower | enum: do you know how the old lootlink worked? |
| 00:58.08 | enum | nope, this is all new to me |
| 00:58.32 | MentalPower | well, basically it stored every single link it came across |
| 00:58.43 | Kirov | Including the full tooltip |
| 00:58.59 | MentalPower | in lootlink's case it was in chat, AH, vendors, inventory, bank etc |
| 00:58.59 | enum | ah |
| 00:59.11 | MentalPower | and as Kirov pointed out, it also recorded the full tooltip |
| 00:59.30 | enum | for me grabbing the links has been the only way to get the spellid. I'm doing this to match it up with the triner |
| 00:59.31 | sylvanaar | ah it says on wowwiky you cant use it in combat, so i guess i was mistaken |
| 00:59.35 | enum | /s/triner/trainer |
| 00:59.53 | enum | X Trainer can teach you Y spell, etc... |
| 01:00.01 | MentalPower | yup |
| 01:00.27 | Kirov | sylvanaar - so, the blizzard macro frame can do it because it has it's own get out of jail free card, but anything written by the rest of us cannot. |
| 01:00.28 | MentalPower | so in your case you can harvest the links (and their TTs) from chat, spellbook and trainer |
| 01:00.38 | MentalPower | Kirov: correct |
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| 01:01.25 | enum | heh, wish it was as easy as grabbing it from the new combat api |
| 01:01.34 | sylvanaar | Kirov yeah |
| 01:02.28 | enum | it frusterates me that I can't use GetTrainerServiceItemLink |
| 01:02.31 | Kirov | does GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("spell:1") not work? |
| 01:02.45 | cogwheel | Cide: polarina? Drundia? |
| 01:02.46 | enum | hmmm.. lemme try |
| 01:02.46 | Kirov | (bad syntax) |
| 01:03.05 | Cide | cogwheel: what? |
| 01:03.10 | cogwheel | topic ;) |
| 01:03.17 | Cide | no |
| 01:03.22 | Cide | some killerdreamer guy |
| 01:03.34 | Cide | I wish it was one of them though |
| 01:03.36 | cogwheel | ah |
| 01:03.39 | Cide | would've felt more satisfying |
| 01:05.23 | cogwheel | :) |
| 01:05.44 | cogwheel | or Shirik |
| 01:05.55 | Cide | haha |
| 01:06.05 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:06.05 | Cide | yeah |
| 01:06.05 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 01:06.05 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:06.05 | Tuller | for i = 1 to reallybignumber do name = GetSpellInfo(i) end |
| 01:06.22 | Shirik | for i = 1, 1/0 do |
| 01:06.35 | Cide | for i = 1, to 10^(10^100) do ... end |
| 01:06.38 | enum | Kirov: nah, don't think that will work since you need to know the ID of the spell you want to display |
| 01:06.43 | Cide | s/to// |
| 01:06.50 | Shirik | lua> for i = 1, 1/0 do end print(Yay!) |
| 01:06.58 | Shirik | --> for i = 1, 1/0 do end print(Yay!) |
| 01:06.59 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " for i = 1, 1/0 do end print(Yay!)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '' |
| 01:07.04 | Shirik | damn it! |
| 01:07.07 | Shirik | I hate these stupid quotes! |
| 01:07.09 | Cide | lua> for i = 1, 10^(10^100) do ... end |
| 01:07.15 | cogwheel | >>> for i = 1, 1/0 do end print("yay") |
| 01:07.17 | Shirik | someone give me a quote |
| 01:07.31 | leethal | Shirik: "To be or not to be" |
| 01:07.37 | cogwheel | --> for i = 1, 1/0 do end print("yay") |
| 01:07.39 | Shirik | --> for i = 1, 1/0 do end print(TAKE_MUTEX(_klua_cleanupLock);yayTAKE_MUTEX(_klua_cleanupLock);) |
| 01:07.40 | Shirik | oops |
| 01:07.42 | batbot | cogwheel: @ maximum execution time/memory exceeded |
| 01:07.42 | batbot | Shirik: @ [string " for i = 1, 1/0 do end print(TAKE_MUTEX(_klua_cleanupLock);yayT..."]:1: ')' expected near ';' |
| 01:07.44 | Shirik | definitely didnt copy the quote.... |
| 01:07.46 | cogwheel | lua> for i = 1, 1/0 do end print("yay") |
| 01:07.49 | Kirov | ooo, didn't know about GetSpellInfo |
| 01:08.11 | cogwheel | umm... sorry cide / clad... :S |
| 01:08.12 | Shirik | hm, so Lua cant count very fast huh? |
| 01:08.17 | Shirik | its not that large |
| 01:08.25 | cogwheel | oh... luabot's not in here |
| 01:08.28 | Shirik | only something in the trillions I think |
| 01:08.31 | cogwheel | i take that back, clad |
| 01:08.33 | Cide | 10^(10^100)? :P |
| 01:08.40 | Cide | not that large? :P |
| 01:08.44 | Shirik | nah |
| 01:08.48 | Kirov | enum - the idea is to create your master list of all spells, then do name compares for the ones you can't find. |
| 01:08.48 | Shirik | I can count that on my fingers |
| 01:08.56 | Cide | you do that |
| 01:09.23 | Tuller | Kirov: http://i31.tinypic.com/2qkoze1.jpg :P |
| 01:09.33 | Kirov | yes, like that |
| 01:09.37 | enum | Kirov: What I don't get is why the spellid is so damn elusive |
| 01:09.50 | Cide | 10^(10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000) |
| 01:10.06 | Cide | that's what you're counting on your fingers Shirik |
| 01:10.07 | Cide | get to it |
| 01:10.10 | MentalPower | enum: cause it was just added |
| 01:10.12 | Tuller | using wowhead its easy to determine a spell's id |
| 01:10.14 | MentalPower | sorta |
| 01:10.21 | Shirik | Cide: damn it you just made me lose count |
| 01:10.22 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:10.28 | Tuller | ex, http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5215 |
| 01:10.28 | Shirik | I was so close too |
| 01:10.36 | Tuller | 5215 = prowl |
| 01:10.41 | Cide | One googol is greater than the number of elementary particles in the observable universe, which has been variously estimated from 1079 up to 1081. A googol is also greater than the number of Planck times elapsed since the Big Bang which is estimated at around 8*1060. Therefore a list of the state of every particle at every measurable unit of time since the Big Bang would have nowhere near a googolplex entries (max. around 8*10141). |
| 01:10.47 | Cide | I'm sure |
| 01:10.50 | Kirov | Tuller - true, but that's a manual vs. programatic aproach |
| 01:10.51 | cogwheel | enum: the only reason it really exists is because of the combat log changes. it was sort of an added bonus more than a "here have this" |
| 01:10.59 | Cide | 8*10^141, that is |
| 01:11.10 | Kirov | Tuller - the main thing with a programatic method is you don't have to care about localization. |
| 01:11.19 | Tuller | well you either know the id of the spell you're looking for, or you know the name :P |
| 01:11.20 | cogwheel | enum: but slouken has a way of turning bonuses into "here have this"es |
| 01:11.22 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 01:11.41 | cogwheel | (zoot too, these days) |
| 01:11.55 | cogwheel | (even if he IS a sprocket) |
| 01:12.02 | Tuller | name to spellid is relatively easy |
| 01:12.16 | enum | Tuller: without wowhead? |
| 01:12.23 | enum | wowhead really isn't an option in this case |
| 01:12.25 | Tuller | id = GetSpellLink(name):match('spell:(%d+)') |
| 01:12.36 | Tuller | assuming a valid spell name |
| 01:12.41 | enum | already have that, but if it's not in your spellbook already you get nil |
| 01:13.03 | Kirov | Hence the abusive use of a massive iterator and hash table |
| 01:13.26 | enum | Kirov: I don't think I quite get the gist of what you mean |
| 01:13.38 | enum | sorry if I'm being a bit thick, I'm just trying to absorb all of this |
| 01:13.43 | Tuller | getspelllink is not necessarily spellbook only |
| 01:13.50 | MentalPower | enum: iterate over all possible spellIds and store them |
| 01:13.59 | enum | ah, ok |
| 01:14.15 | Tuller | i think it functions like the item cache does |
| 01:14.27 | MentalPower | Tuller: possibly |
| 01:14.32 | Tuller | its not a possibly :P |
| 01:14.40 | Kirov | local spells = {}; for ( i=1; 100000 ) do local name = GetSpellInfo(i) if name then spells[i] = name end end |
| 01:14.45 | Tuller | else how would I be able to link "chicken form" in chat? :P |
| 01:15.02 | MentalPower | Tuller: lol |
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| 01:15.23 | Tuller | or aquatic form, from my rogue, etc |
| 01:15.58 | Kirov | Actually I think it's a little more than just item cache - like as I believe clients have a full list all the time. |
| 01:16.04 | enum | Tuller: you're using GetSpellLink for that? |
| 01:16.11 | Tuller | yes |
| 01:16.17 | enum | odd |
| 01:17.32 | Tuller | [Receive Reward AND Quest Object, Darnassus Guard] whee :P |
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| 01:17.43 | art3mis | http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/2008/04/ |
| 01:17.55 | art3mis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:19.04 | pastamancer | Kirkburn: correct, clients have the full list of spells in one of the mpq files |
| 01:19.11 | pastamancer | damn autocomplete |
| 01:19.30 | pastamancer | and not noticing when people leave the channel |
| 01:19.37 | Kirkburn | >_< |
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| 01:24.47 | Tuller | there are actually some I did not get valid links for |
| 01:24.55 | Tuller | so its not everything that GetSpellInfo returns a name for |
| 01:25.22 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 01:25.24 | sag_ich_nicht | http://pastey.net/85294-3o7l <--check that out |
| 01:25.26 | sag_ich_nicht | lol bugs |
| 01:25.27 | enum | Tuller: right, I'm using GetSpellInfo to get the name, and then calling GetSpellLink using that name |
| 01:25.55 | enum | if it's not in my spellbook I don't get a link, I also just had someone link to me something that I don't have, tried GetSpellInfo, and nada |
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| 01:30.04 | enum | Tuller: are you calling it like this: GetSpellLink(serviceName .. format(TEXT(PARENS_TEMPLATE), serviceSubText) |
| 01:30.44 | Tuller | i'm calling GetSpellLink using the first return of GetSpellInfo |
| 01:30.55 | Tuller | or id |
| 01:30.58 | Tuller | one or the other :P |
| 01:31.01 | Tuller | I think id :P |
| 01:31.07 | Tuller | so that may be why it works for me :P |
| 01:31.10 | enum | if you call with ID it will always return I think |
| 01:31.23 | Tuller | i'm calling it via id\ |
| 01:32.45 | Tekkub | o/~ paranoia, paranoia, everybody's coming to GET ME! o/~ |
| 01:33.10 | enum | is there a way to stop a for loop? |
| 01:33.18 | pastamancer | beak |
| 01:33.19 | pastamancer | err break |
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| 01:33.23 | enum | ah ok, thanks |
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| 01:42.44 | Shirik | batrick: ping |
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| 02:00.04 | Cairenn | evening Iriel |
| 02:00.18 | Iriel | Good evening |
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| 02:04.37 | Kirov | There's no /use [cooldown] item name |
| 02:04.38 | Kirov | right? |
| 02:04.44 | Iriel | right |
| 02:04.49 | Iriel | nor would I expect there to ever be |
| 02:04.57 | Iriel | it's on the list of 'things we've been explicitly told we can't have' |
| 02:05.10 | Shirik | hm, some net admin needs to lay off the caps lock key |
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| 02:07.06 | pastamancer | lol |
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| 02:11.02 | Kirov | So, I guess the question is, is there a good way to use multiple trinkets from a single macro w/o having to deal with the "cannot use" noise? |
| 02:12.29 | Shirik | theres some addon out there to disable the noise |
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| 02:31.39 | Shirik | batrick: It all compiles and links |
| 02:31.44 | Shirik | how long do you think it will run before segfaulting? |
| 02:34.17 | pastamancer | Kirkburn: there's a cvar for it but I don't recall the name |
| 02:34.58 | pastamancer | damnit again |
| 02:35.05 | pastamancer | I'm going to turn off tab completion |
| 02:35.06 | MentalPower | pastamancer: CVar for what? |
| 02:35.21 | MentalPower | pastamancer: just look at the tab complete before sending the message :P |
| 02:35.21 | pastamancer | kirov was wondering about muting the 'cannot use' sounds in trinket macros |
| 02:35.28 | pastamancer | reading is hard |
| 02:35.38 | MentalPower | and writing is not? :P |
| 02:35.47 | pastamancer | I don't have to look when I tpe |
| 02:35.48 | pastamancer | type |
| 02:35.52 | MentalPower | anyways, I think theres an option in the sound config screen |
| 02:36.13 | MentalPower | yup, there is |
| 02:36.22 | MentalPower | "Error Speech" |
| 02:36.24 | pastamancer | yeah, but to toggle it for just during the macro |
| 02:36.40 | MentalPower | tell him to look at the code :P |
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| 02:39.16 | Kirov | I turned the speech off. |
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| 02:48.39 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.4/ConstructsInTheRaid.png |
| 02:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | WE'VE GOT CONSTRUCTS IN THE RAID GET THEM OUT THEY HURT PLEASE GET THEM OUT |
| 02:49.21 | Shirik | wtf? |
| 02:49.30 | Shirik | why the hell are they there >< |
| 02:49.35 | dylanm | Oh God that's a bad situation. |
| 02:49.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, learning r hard |
| 02:50.59 | Shirik | [#] 22:50:10 [2] <Satire>: [Talisman of True Treasure Tracking]: How do i know if its working? |
| 02:51.05 | ScytheBlade1 | WIN |
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| 02:53.36 | Shirik | dun dun dun |
| 02:53.38 | Shirik | batrick: 1>filum - 0 error(s), 4 warning(s) |
| 02:53.41 | Shirik | now for the big test |
| 02:53.56 | Shirik | oh right, I cant just hit run, its a dll :/ |
| 02:53.57 | Shirik | hmm |
| 02:54.04 | kd3 | rundll32? |
| 02:54.10 | Shirik | nah I need to get it inside Lua |
| 02:55.20 | Shirik | theres gotta be a way I can do this, maybe sylvanaar knows since hes used visual studio so much |
| 02:55.37 | sylvanaar | what |
| 02:55.43 | Shirik | I want to be able to hit run, and itll run Lua with a few parameters so that it runs require(the dll) |
| 02:55.58 | Shirik | like lua.exe -e require(filum) |
| 02:56.11 | Shirik | and itll attach the debugger to Lua |
| 02:57.05 | sylvanaar | oh, yeah just tell it an alternate exe (lua.exe) and parameters - id have to run it to give you the exact wording |
| 02:57.21 | Shirik | I think I found it actually, thanks |
| 02:58.06 | Tekkub | "Weekly, Bolvar discovers that Prestor is the dragon Onyxia and has a huge fight while the boy sits in the middle and smiles blankly, never learning anything. That boy ain't right." |
| 02:58.11 | Tekkub | lawl |
| 02:58.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.4/TeronGorefiend.png |
| 02:58.39 | ScytheBlade1 | It's harder to get that shot than you'd think |
| 02:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | When the floor is littered with gnome skeletons |
| 02:59.09 | Corrodias | i hereby install audiosurf to see what's going on |
| 02:59.52 | sylvanaar | Shirik the field is called "command" on the debugging tab of the project properties |
| 03:00.01 | Shirik | thanks |
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| 03:05.52 | Shirik | *headdesk* |
| 03:06.02 | Shirik | Its doing the same thing its was doing a few weeks ago, |
| 03:06.05 | Shirik | error loading module 'filum' from file '.\filum.dll': |
| 03:06.05 | Shirik | %1 is not a valid Win32 application. |
| 03:06.09 | Shirik | so strange |
| 03:06.16 | |Jelly| | ~hug Shirik |
| 03:06.16 | purl | ACTION jumps into Shirik's lap and huggles and *hugs* Shirik |
| 03:06.30 | Shirik | Java has no problems loading my DLLs, I dont know what Im doing differently with Lua |
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| 03:07.36 | Hojimachong | is this the place to ask someone to identify an addon in a picture, or should I take my search elsewhere? |
| 03:07.43 | |Jelly| | sure |
| 03:07.57 | Shirik | ~hug |Jelly| |
| 03:07.58 | purl | ACTION jumps into |Jelly|'s lap and huggles and *hugs* |Jelly| |
| 03:07.59 | NightHawkTheSane | only if you dont mind smartass remarks. |
| 03:08.00 | Hojimachong | sweet |
| 03:08.22 | Hojimachong | I'm impervious to that type of knavery |
| 03:08.38 | |Jelly| | Then less yapping and moar screenshots. |
| 03:08.57 | Hojimachong | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Modified_WoW_User_Interface.jpg bottom half of the image |
| 03:09.04 | Hojimachong | I'm thinking its several different ones |
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| 03:09.24 | |Jelly| | It's uglee mixed with facepalm layered on top. |
| 03:09.40 | Hojimachong | wonderful |
| 03:10.08 | Shirik | the chat is prat |
| 03:10.10 | |Jelly| | eePanels/Skinner // Bartender // Prat |
| 03:10.17 | Shirik | eepanels/skinner for the background |
| 03:10.35 | Shirik | the combat log is simple combat log, but I dont think thats updated for 2.4? |
| 03:10.44 | |Jelly| | I'm sorry Shirik, but your princess is in another castle. |
| 03:10.45 | Gnarfoz | might be SimpleCombatLog / HitsMode, too, but neither of those work anymore since 2.4 |
| 03:10.46 | NightHawkTheSane | no, and theres no need for it to be, really |
| 03:11.05 | NightHawkTheSane | looks like either itemrack and trinketmenu in there, as well |
| 03:11.25 | Shirik | no! |
| 03:11.28 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks for the loot, Shirik :) |
| 03:11.34 | Gnarfoz | also, unitframes look like pitbull, I don't hink AG_UF ever did the "?" thing for portraits |
| 03:11.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:12.12 | Hojimachong | that sounds messy |
| 03:12.26 | |Jelly| | It is. |
| 03:12.34 | Corrodias | oh dear. http://zip.4chan.org/co/src/1207623866149.gif |
| 03:12.42 | |Jelly| | SFW? |
| 03:12.46 | sag_ich_nicht | yes |
| 03:12.48 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 03:12.57 | sag_ich_nicht | i lol'd |
| 03:13.01 | |Jelly| | lol |
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| 03:16.31 | Kyahx | could anyone give me a crash-course on using GIT under OSX. Any decent GUI clients? |
| 03:18.00 | dylanm | Kyahx I haven't seen any. I just use the command line tool. |
| 03:18.09 | Hojimachong | thanks again for the help, guys |
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| 03:18.12 | dylanm | I hope you have Xcode installed \m/ |
| 03:18.43 | Kyahx | of course |
| 03:18.51 | Kyahx | what self-respecting nerd dosent? |
| 03:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | the kind not running a mac? oh wait, you said self-respecting.. nevermind. ;) *flee* |
| 03:19.26 | dylanm | Cut you. |
| 03:19.27 | enum | is it possible to background a lua function in wow? Kirov's suggestion earlier to "brute force" spell id's works, but if the available list of spells is more than 20 it can be a bit taxing |
| 03:19.38 | Shirik | ~NightHawkTheSane++ |
| 03:20.05 | Shirik | enum: You can create a coroutine and have it resumed periodically from an OnUpdate handler |
| 03:20.07 | Shirik | thats the best you can do |
| 03:22.52 | Shirik | ~karma Shirik |
| 03:22.52 | purl | shirik has neutral karma |
| 03:22.56 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:23.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ~karma sag_ich_nicht |
| 03:23.14 | purl | sag_ich_nicht has neutral karma |
| 03:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | LIES |
| 03:23.19 | sag_ich_nicht | wait |
| 03:23.22 | sag_ich_nicht | that's a good thing. |
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| 03:27.50 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- gimme ++ karma! |
| 03:28.00 | sag_ich_nicht | ~Fisker-++ |
| 03:28.42 | Shirik | hmmmmmm |
| 03:28.52 | Shirik | Lua is running 64 bit, but Im loading a 32 bit DLL |
| 03:28.55 | Shirik | I wonder if that has anything to do with it |
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| 03:42.47 | sylvanaar | do with what? |
| 03:43.51 | sylvanaar | thunks |
| 03:44.20 | sylvanaar | i cant get my forum account setup on scifi.com |
| 03:44.39 | sylvanaar | i need to post about who i think the final cylon is!!! |
| 03:47.23 | Corrodias | man, getting the hang of this will take some time |
| 03:51.06 | Shirik | I think microsoft makes way too much money off of me |
| 03:51.10 | Shirik | I need to go work for them |
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| 03:55.09 | Kirov | Shirik - if you work for them, then wouldn't they be making money off your work, and as such be making more money off you than they already do? |
| 03:55.22 | Shirik | but at least I wouldnt be buying stuff from them anymore >< |
| 03:56.32 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 03:59.31 | Shirik | Please print this page by choosing the 'Print Invoice' option from the left-hand navigation menu. |
| 03:59.36 | Shirik | There is no left-hand navigation menu.... |
| 03:59.41 | Shirik | oh well, they better ship it or Ill kill them |
| 04:05.03 | Mike-N-Go | I give you, my new misdirection macro, it only yells if not in combat, to lower spam: /cast [target=focus,exists][target=pet, exists]Misdirection /run S=SendChatMessage;if not UnitAffectingCombat("player") then S("Misdireciton to:%F,Target:%T!","YELL",nil);end S("Misdirection:%T!","WHISPER",nil,UnitName("focus")); |
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| 04:30.24 | Shirik | this is truly the sign of a great OS |
| 04:30.39 | Shirik | I run Lua with the statement collectgarbagestop while true do t = {}; end |
| 04:30.56 | Shirik | And what message do I get? |
| 04:31.08 | Shirik | Adobe Acrobat Reader 8.1 has stopped working ... |
| 04:31.19 | Shirik | followed by WoW locking up, followed by mirc, followed by firefox |
| 04:31.26 | Shirik | while Lua keeps chugging away |
| 04:31.58 | Shirik | well I take that back, it might not be the OSs fault, it may be stupid programmers not expecting OOM conditions |
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| 04:32.25 | pastamancer | always test the return value of malloc! |
| 04:32.32 | Shirik | Better yet, dont use malloc! :D |
| 04:32.42 | pastamancer | I learned that working on pam modules |
| 04:32.53 | Shirik | operator new > malloc |
| 04:33.03 | pastamancer | I dont do C++ |
| 04:33.10 | Shirik | and I dont do C ^^ |
| 04:33.17 | Shirik | well I do when Im working with VxWorks |
| 04:33.20 | Shirik | but normally I do C++! |
| 04:33.27 | pastamancer | you got your stroustrup in my kernigan! |
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| 04:48.30 | batrick | shirik yes? |
| 04:48.38 | Shirik | um |
| 04:48.50 | Shirik | hmm |
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| 04:49.00 | Shirik | ohyeah |
| 04:49.23 | Shirik | when you call for a thread to terminate, do you want for the call to wait for that thread to be shut down, or return immediately? |
| 04:49.39 | batrick | return immediately |
| 04:49.42 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:51.36 | batrick | need anything else cuz i'm about to go |
| 04:52.14 | Shirik | hopefully this is almost done; as soon as I can generate a fricking exports file from Lua, for some reason it refuses to do so |
| 04:52.30 | Shirik | but no, nothing else |
| 04:52.58 | batrick | k night |
| 04:53.08 | Cairenn | night batrick |
| 04:55.13 | |Jelly| | ~hug Cairenn |
| 04:55.14 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn |
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| 05:01.52 | MentalPower | WobWork: the video was nice, until the "user testimonials" started |
| 05:02.07 | WobWork | MentalPower: scary, no? |
| 05:02.26 | WobWork | Soon there will be no requirement for talent in the music business |
| 05:03.01 | MentalPower | the tech is actually quite impressive, but yeah |
| 05:07.02 | MentalPower | WobWork: MySong would actually be something I would play around with |
| 05:07.30 | WobWork | I want it to work |
| 05:07.40 | WobWork | but to point and laugh if they're bad |
| 05:13.07 | Shirik | hm, I wonder what this means |
| 05:13.09 | Shirik | 1>lua.obj : warning LNK4217: locally defined symbol _luaL_newstate imported in function _main |
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| 05:25.59 | Shirik | !!!! batrick! Its working! |
| 05:26.00 | Shirik | Well, sorta |
| 05:26.03 | Shirik | Its mostly working! |
| 05:26.13 | Sixen_ | That's better than not at all, right? :P. |
| 05:26.18 | Shirik | It said Attach OK now instead of %1 is not a valid Win32 application |
| 05:26.26 | Shirik | (Attach OK I put in _DllMain() ) |
| 05:26.45 | Shirik | but uh... |
| 05:26.48 | Shirik | > require('filum') |
| 05:26.49 | Shirik | Attach OKerror loading module 'filum' from file '.\filum.dll': |
| 05:26.49 | Shirik | The specified procedure could not be found. |
| 05:26.51 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:30.53 | Shirik | hrm |
| 05:30.56 | Shirik | this isnt right... |
| 05:31.17 | Shirik | the only exports in filum.dll are the Lua functions >.> |
| 05:32.48 | Shirik | even though its right there in the linker address map... 0002:00002780 _luaopen_filum 10013780 f filum.obj |
| 05:33.23 | End | how annoying |
| 05:33.49 | End | you can't really tie SPELL_AURA_APPLIED with the preceding SPELL_CAST_START |
| 05:33.55 | End | (not that there is always one) |
| 05:34.02 | End | not without a little guesswork that is |
| 05:34.13 | Drundia | there is no for group buffs |
| 05:34.30 | Drundia | only main target reports cast |
| 05:35.15 | End | well |
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| 05:35.36 | End | group buffs wouldn't be a result of SPELL_CAST_START |
| 05:36.05 | End | since none of them have a cast time |
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| 05:36.29 | End | in my case, I'm looking at behavior of UA |
| 05:36.33 | End | it's a dot with a cast time |
| 05:36.43 | End | (seed of corruption would apply too) |
| 05:36.50 | Drundia | they don't have cast start? |
| 05:36.57 | End | group buffs don't |
| 05:37.06 | End | they have a cas ttohugh :P |
| 05:37.07 | Drundia | no, UA and SOC |
| 05:37.07 | MentalPower | Shirik: 32 vs 64 mismatch? |
| 05:37.09 | End | they do |
| 05:37.13 | Shirik | nope I just fixed that |
| 05:37.20 | End | but if you have a bunch of people spamming seed |
| 05:37.25 | Drundia | ah, that |
| 05:37.26 | Shirik | Im looking at the DLL exports now and none of my stuff is listed |
| 05:37.27 | Drundia | well yes |
| 05:37.30 | End | although |
| 05:37.30 | Shirik | for that DLL file |
| 05:37.34 | Shirik | but I dont know why... |
| 05:37.38 | End | you could identify if it fails to hit I guess :P |
| 05:37.41 | Drundia | they should just put in case success for everything |
| 05:37.53 | Drundia | s/case/cast/ |
| 05:38.06 | Drundia | and aura sources in aura events |
| 05:38.23 | MentalPower | client does not know that info |
| 05:38.28 | End | odd |
| 05:38.35 | End | I should know cast success for my OWN spells |
| 05:38.38 | Drundia | i'm sure it does |
| 05:38.40 | End | I don't see it in my log |
| 05:38.45 | Drundia | because it knows buff level |
| 05:38.49 | MentalPower | Drundia: slouken has said otherwise |
| 05:38.53 | End | ah |
| 05:38.55 | Drundia | hmmmm |
| 05:38.58 | End | weird |
| 05:39.11 | End | yeah, combat log never knows |
| 05:39.15 | End | even for yourself :P |
| 05:39.19 | Drundia | you can't perfectly trust him either..... |
| 05:39.20 | End | but the normal cast events know |
| 05:39.26 | Drundia | hehehe |
| 05:39.29 | MentalPower | Drundia: excuse me? |
| 05:39.31 | End | (since GG, you have to stop showing the casting bar) |
| 05:39.38 | Drundia | no, never mind :) |
| 05:40.14 | Drundia | maybe client should start getting that information |
| 05:40.18 | End | knowing when casts end would be nice for me |
| 05:40.24 | End | isn't not a huge deal though |
| 05:40.26 | Drundia | after all at some point dispel sources became available |
| 05:40.47 | MentalPower | End: thats known |
| 05:40.54 | End | is it? |
| 05:40.58 | End | I don't think it is |
| 05:41.02 | Drundia | when we got "Target's Spell is removed." replaced by "Target's Spell is removed by Dispeller's Dispel." for most real dispels and cc breaks |
| 05:41.09 | MentalPower | SPELLCAST_STOP ? |
| 05:41.18 | End | ah, well, I care about more than just the player :P |
| 05:41.34 | Drundia | SPELLCAST_STOP should fire for everything in raid i think |
| 05:41.38 | Drundia | plus target and focus |
| 05:41.39 | End | does it really>? |
| 05:41.42 | End | interesting |
| 05:41.50 | AbsoRayne | Is there a bug with the newest Bartender? I cant seem to get Button Paging to work on my Wifes UI, no matter what bar I tell is to switch to. |
| 05:42.16 | Drundia | but they aren't synchronized |
| 05:43.07 | End | hrm, wowwiki claims SPELLCAST_STOP doesn't exist anymore |
| 05:43.12 | End | do you know what replaced it? |
| 05:44.09 | MentalPower | End: check the "UNIT_SPELLCAST_*" events |
| 05:44.21 | MentalPower | specifically "UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP" has the stop casting info |
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| 05:44.45 | End | ok |
| 05:44.47 | MentalPower | in general UNIT_SPELLCAST_* replaced the SPELLCAST_* events |
| 05:44.47 | End | thanks |
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| 05:45.25 | AlexanderYoshi | adding caster information to auras would be a very large increase in wow bandwidth usage |
| 05:45.28 | AlexanderYoshi | whoa bold |
| 05:45.29 | AlexanderYoshi | test |
| 05:45.56 | End | I wish I could get that information for non-"interesting" units, but I can live with just raid |
| 05:46.06 | End | since raid is what I expect to mostly look at |
| 05:46.38 | Guillotine | When you see a post on an addon on WoWI by someone that now says "Edit by Cladhaire: Please don't do that again. Ever.", you just want to know what it said originally |
| 05:46.38 | Drundia | Alex, wouldn't it just require extra 16 bytes with source guid? |
| 05:46.46 | Drundia | or was it even 8 |
| 05:47.10 | Tem | Guillotine, lol |
| 05:48.42 | AbsoRayne | Ill take that as a no then. |
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| 05:53.19 | globalduck1313 | i want to add talent spec to a hud for player and target...anyone know the script i would use if I am not using dogtag? |
| 05:54.12 | MentalPower | talent spec? |
| 05:54.32 | MentalPower | like 10/10/31 (madeup) or something |
| 05:54.44 | globalduck1313 | yeah so it shows under the health min/max like this....beast 0/0/0 yeah exactly |
| 05:55.17 | MentalPower | you'd have to use the inspect API |
| 05:55.49 | globalduck1313 | thats what i thought....jsut gotta figure out the proper syntax |
| 05:56.22 | MentalPower | globalduck1313: check the code for the blizz inspect addon |
| 05:56.32 | MentalPower | or if you know dogtag does it, check its code |
| 05:56.38 | globalduck1313 | kk thanx |
| 05:56.58 | MentalPower | I think you start with NotifyInspect("target") |
| 05:57.03 | MentalPower | but I dunno what follows |
| 05:57.05 | globalduck1313 | by inspect addons ur refering to examiner and such |
| 05:57.16 | MentalPower | no, the blizzard inspect addon |
| 05:57.19 | globalduck1313 | kk thanx for teh starting point |
| 05:57.23 | globalduck1313 | ok |
| 05:57.33 | MentalPower | Blizzard_InspectUI |
| 05:57.47 | MentalPower | use the ui kit to extract the files |
| 05:57.50 | MentalPower | ~framexml |
| 05:57.50 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wdnaddons.com/ |
| 05:57.58 | MentalPower | globalduck1313: ^^^^ |
| 05:58.32 | Shirik | grrrr |
| 05:58.38 | Shirik | this is so stupid, why cant I figure this out >< |
| 05:58.48 | End | there's an embedded library called LibTalentQuery which might help you out |
| 05:58.56 | globalduck1313 | kk thanx for the help |
| 05:59.28 | End | I'm not exactly sure what using it exactly entails, but it probably takes care of any worts there might be for you. |
| 05:59.35 | globalduck1313 | where can i get that at? |
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| 06:00.22 | MentalPower | globalduck1313: "for i=1, GetNumTalentTabs('target') do local name, icon, pointsSpent, lingName = GetTalentTabInfo(i, InspectTalentFrame.inspect) end" |
| 06:00.29 | Shirik | (01:46:18) (+Guillotine) When you see a post on an addon on WoWI by someone that now says "Edit by Cladhaire: Please don't do that again. Ever.", you just want to know what it said originally |
| 06:00.29 | Shirik | lol. |
| 06:00.37 | MentalPower | globalduck1313: "for i=1, GetNumTalentTabs('target') do local name, icon, pointsSpent, lingName = GetTalentTabInfo(i, 'target') end" |
| 06:00.42 | Shirik | funny thing is I had the same thought |
| 06:00.50 | globalduck1313 | lol yeah i saw that too |
| 06:00.56 | MentalPower | globalduck1313: "for i=1, GetNumTalentTabs('target') do local name, icon, pointsSpent, longName = GetTalentTabInfo(i, 'target') end" |
| 06:00.59 | MentalPower | there finally |
| 06:01.16 | globalduck1313 | awesome thanx |
| 06:03.52 | MentalPower | np, anytime |
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| 06:05.19 | Kirov | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpDZ3WotLXY# - Sharper Image + Lasers + Douche Bags |
| 06:06.00 | Kirov | It's a "laser harp" |
| 06:06.16 | Kirov | only, it just plays a pre-recorded file when you break the beam |
| 06:08.18 | Arcaia | I got forwarded - gasp |
| 06:09.47 | End | I fail at math |
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| 06:16.57 | Tem | Kirov, ew |
| 06:17.04 | Atriace | I need some help on my string.find method, I think. http://wowuidev.pastey.net/85321 |
| 06:17.12 | Tem | they have turned the lazer harp (an awesome thing) into something despizable |
| 06:17.17 | Tem | a true crime |
| 06:17.24 | Tem | s/true/True/ |
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| 06:17.37 | Tem | (yes, the capilalization matters) |
| 06:17.38 | AnduinLothar | yeah, unless you're making your own loops for it... |
| 06:18.02 | AnduinLothar | you still look like a toolbag using it tho |
| 06:19.50 | Atriace | Trying to find the experience gained from CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN, but since the value can be a range of digits, I'm using a progressive test searching for 4 then 3 then 2 then 1 digits. |
| 06:19.52 | AnduinLothar | probably the only redeeming virtue is that it requires that you have rhythm to sound good. |
| 06:20.10 | AnduinLothar | and a lot of people don't have rhythm... |
| 06:21.05 | Tem | that's why audiences automatically rush when they trie to clap a beat |
| 06:21.23 | Tem | (also why you never let the audience clap during your music) |
| 06:21.39 | Tem | s/trie/try/ |
| 06:22.37 | Drundia | Atriace, match it against (%d+) maybe? |
| 06:25.55 | Drundia | you should basically use local a, b, exp = string.find(arg1, "(%d+)") |
| 06:26.53 | Drundia | and also ((not a) or b)===(not a or b)!==(not (a or b)) |
| 06:27.02 | Atriace | Drundia: 2 pages down, found the +. Brilliant. |
| 06:27.27 | Atriace | Thanks, Drundia. |
| 06:27.51 | MentalPower | Atriace: local exp = arg1:match("(%d+)") |
| 06:28.13 | MentalPower | then just check if exp is non-nil |
| 06:28.49 | Drundia | i always forget about match() and string metatables... |
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| 06:29.52 | Atriace | Atriace searches for match() in PIL |
| 06:30.17 | Atriace | ... and fails. |
| 06:30.27 | Drundia | string.match (s, pattern [, init]) |
| 06:30.35 | Drundia | in http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html |
| 06:30.54 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: ping! |
| 06:33.26 | Tem | Atriace, it's a 5.1 feature |
| 06:33.34 | Tem | so you won't find it in the 5.0 PiL |
| 06:33.40 | Tem | check the 5.1 refman |
| 06:34.14 | Atriace | So it would seem... I need to replace my PIL pdf. Sad day. |
| 06:34.52 | Atriace | Well, it works. I'm up and running with string.match now. |
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| 06:45.17 | AbsoRayne | @_@ |
| 06:52.12 | Antiarc | Geeeez. Someone was really stretching for that laser harp. |
| 06:55.20 | Shirik | batrick: compiled, linked, and loads into Lua. If you have any test scripts, let me know |
| 06:59.32 | Guillotine | sweet mother of god, this is such perfect timing for the Google AppEngine to be released. Will make the project I was planning on doing so much easier XD And cheaper. Not paying for my own hosting ftw! |
| 06:59.48 | MentalPower | AppEngine? |
| 06:59.49 | Guillotine | also, even though it says its full, sign up for the waiting list. I got an invite within 20 mins :P |
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| 07:00.16 | Guillotine | http://code.google.com/appengine/ |
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| 07:01.41 | leethal | 'wow addon forge' with SCM, bug trackers and all, that's not ace only. hmmmz.. |
| 07:02.01 | leethal | then again, you'll get "can u ace it??" sooner or later anyway >< |
| 07:02.27 | Atriace | Does unregistering blizzard frames cause taint? |
| 07:02.41 | Shirik | unregistering events? |
| 07:02.45 | Atriace | Aye |
| 07:02.58 | Shirik | I dont believe so, but I really dont know for sure. Ive never done it to a secure frame |
| 07:03.50 | Atriace | Also, a taint log would manifest itself in the logs folder if something came up, correct? I've never actually had a taint issue before. |
| 07:04.13 | Shirik | oh how I love visual studio and its ability to tell you problems before the symptoms occur |
| 07:04.33 | Shirik | Even though the crash would come 3 functions later, it tells me at the cause: First-chance exception at 0x77aa04a2 in Lua5.1.3.exe: 0xC0000008: An invalid handle was specified. |
| 07:05.11 | Shirik | and btw batrick, thats your bug |
| 07:05.26 | clad|sleep | you know |
| 07:05.43 | clad|sleep | im sure we can arrange for VS's cock to be delivered to you so you don't have to strain while sucking it. |
| 07:05.53 | Shirik | <3 cladhaire |
| 07:05.59 | Shirik | I would love that actually |
| 07:07.05 | zenzio | why the hell does everyone always have such problems with anyoen liking a Microsoft product? |
| 07:07.44 | cladhaire | I don't |
| 07:07.54 | cladhaire | I'd say the same thing to any fanboi |
| 07:08.03 | Shirik | I think I do take it a little over the top sometimes :) |
| 07:08.06 | Shirik | I probably deserve it |
| 07:08.10 | cladhaire | you do |
| 07:08.19 | cladhaire | :P |
| 07:11.00 | Shirik | ~botmail for batrick lthread.c line 149 you have a call status = KLUA_MUTEX_DESTROY(thread->mutex); where thread->mutex is an uninitialized variable. Test script: filum.create(function() while true do a = a + 1; end end); -- a is nil, thus throwing an error |
| 07:11.08 | Shirik | ~botsnack |
| 07:11.08 | purl | :), Shirik |
| 07:21.27 | Shirik | The new day starts in . |
| 07:21.31 | Shirik | what a useful statement. |
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| 07:24.44 | Drundia | it fails around daylight savings switching |
| 07:25.05 | Drundia | and the whole reset system fails |
| 07:28.19 | Arrowmaster | i think its always been an hour off me for |
| 07:28.28 | Corrodias | well, audiosurf sure is a fun little game >:o |
| 07:28.32 | Corrodias | and by fun i mean MADDENING |
| 07:29.01 | Arrowmaster | or maybe i just wasnt up that late and on wow during that small part of the year that we arent on daylight savings time |
| 07:29.12 | Corrodias | listening to the same song for 20 minutes while you keep retrying, getting a nearly perfect run in ironmode only to mess up right near the end.. >_< |
| 07:29.14 | Corrodias | yet fun |
| 07:31.07 | Corrodias | i suppose if i really wanted to drive myself crazy, i could try this 60-minute house music mix i have |
| 07:34.19 | leethal | anyone here that writes addons that aren't ace and that uses some kind of SCM? which/how do you do the SCM stuff? google code or something? |
| 07:35.17 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: you need to steal the image from http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/ |
| 07:35.38 | Arrowmaster | bah why am i tabed into this channel right now |
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| 07:36.15 | AlexanderYoshi | lol |
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| 07:40.14 | Antiarc | AlexanderYoshi: I found one of your notes! |
| 07:40.33 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_040608_172247.jpg |
| 07:41.39 | MentalPower | lol |
| 07:41.55 | MentalPower | we should mine the Spell TTs for "-Yoshi" |
| 07:42.04 | End | haha |
| 07:42.12 | cladhaire | :P |
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| 08:02.11 | AlexanderYoshi | ? |
| 08:02.19 | AlexanderYoshi | awww son of a |
| 08:02.32 | AlexanderYoshi | I thought I fixed that one |
| 08:02.35 | AlexanderYoshi | hey |
| 08:02.38 | AlexanderYoshi | nice spell indexer |
| 08:02.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:02.58 | Drundia | Spell.dbc contains only one "-Yoshi" |
| 08:03.06 | AlexanderYoshi | yeah I removed the rest |
| 08:03.20 | Drundia | haha |
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| 08:03.45 | Drundia | now we know one more name to blame for bugged spells |
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| 08:07.30 | AlexanderYoshi | I did a large amount of BT trash |
| 08:07.37 | AlexanderYoshi | good times |
| 08:08.33 | wereHamster | what did you do? mob models or spells or textures or ... ? |
| 08:08.36 | Drundia | and i was wondering why is it funnier than the rest of trashes |
| 08:08.44 | Drundia | it's all fresh ideas! |
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| 08:11.56 | Tem | wereHamster, most likly mob spawning and their behavior while active |
| 08:12.03 | Tem | (which includes the spells they cast, ect) |
| 08:12.14 | Tem | s/likly/likely/ |
| 08:12.24 | AlexanderYoshi | ^ |
| 08:12.35 | AlexanderYoshi | Less spawning and more spells |
| 08:12.39 | AlexanderYoshi | I'm a spell mastar~ |
| 08:12.45 | AlexanderYoshi | lookup spell 30000 ;) |
| 08:12.49 | AlexanderYoshi | and ... 20,000 |
| 08:13.02 | AlexanderYoshi | and maybe you can guess the last one |
| 08:13.04 | AlexanderYoshi | g'night |
| 08:13.10 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:13.15 | MentalPower | Alexander's Test Spell (30000) |
| 08:13.17 | Drundia | ah so that Alexander is you |
| 08:13.23 | Drundia | i saw a handful of those spells |
| 08:13.43 | AlexanderYoshi | I don't do that work anymore tho |
| 08:13.48 | AlexanderYoshi | so I can't nerf BT for you, sorry~ |
| 08:13.52 | wereHamster | ~AlexanderYoshi |
| 08:13.52 | purl | AlexanderYoshi is a spell mastar~ |
| 08:13.53 | cladhaire | quest 2 is yours right? |
| 08:13.53 | Drundia | haha |
| 08:14.00 | AlexanderYoshi | yes |
| 08:14.05 | cladhaire | <3 quest 2 |
| 08:14.16 | cladhaire | first one i looked up when tooltips showed up |
| 08:14.19 | cladhaire | or whatever # is it |
| 08:15.04 | Shirik | quest 1? |
| 08:15.10 | MentalPower | theres no quest1 |
| 08:15.14 | MentalPower | theres a quest 2 tho |
| 08:15.14 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=1 |
| 08:15.20 | Shirik | Description |
| 08:15.20 | Shirik | Welcome to the world of Alexander craft. Please try to not break the windows. |
| 08:15.20 | Shirik | Luis is cool. |
| 08:15.20 | Shirik | Jon is cool too! |
| 08:15.22 | MentalPower | researching the corruption |
| 08:15.23 | nevcairiel | maybe wowhead has the ids mixed up |
| 08:15.57 | Shirik | wtf, killing kittens |
| 08:16.53 | MentalPower | lol |
| 08:16.55 | cladhaire | yeah thats one :P |
| 08:17.12 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: nah, GetQuestLink(1) refuses to work on my WoW |
| 08:17.26 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i just looked it up on wowhead |
| 08:17.28 | nevcairiel | not ingame |
| 08:17.31 | cladhaire | it works on mine |
| 08:17.32 | cladhaire | or did :P |
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| 08:18.05 | MentalPower | I can paste the link |
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| 08:18.09 | MentalPower | and the link will work |
| 08:18.20 | MentalPower | but GetQuestLink(1) still refuses to work |
| 08:18.29 | cladhaire | lol |
| 08:20.17 | Drundia | use something like /script ChatFrame1:AddMessage("\124Hquest:1:70\124h[Click Me!]\124h") |
| 08:20.43 | cladhaire | he knows how to make it work |
| 08:20.45 | cladhaire | clearly |
| 08:20.47 | Drundia | "Kill 2 Koboldz" |
| 08:20.50 | cladhaire | he's simply stating that the API function doesn't work |
| 08:21.46 | Drundia | GetQuestLink() takes quest log quest ids |
| 08:22.02 | cladhaire | true |
| 08:22.05 | Drundia | nil if it's a header |
| 08:22.16 | Drundia | so GetSpellLink(1) will always be nil i guess |
| 08:22.19 | MentalPower | hmm... bah then |
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| 08:22.55 | MentalPower | WTB GUI-independent query API |
| 08:23.10 | cladhaire | its not GUI dependent |
| 08:23.28 | cladhaire | you're only allowed to be interested in one quest at a time |
| 08:23.32 | nevcairiel | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("quest:1") |
| 08:23.36 | cladhaire | and those are restricted to those in your quest log. |
| 08:23.37 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 08:23.50 | Drundia | no |
| 08:23.56 | MentalPower | its dependant on the state of the headers in the questlog |
| 08:24.09 | Drundia | it will query any spell from server because you can link spells |
| 08:24.10 | cladhaire | no, they're considered quest log entries |
| 08:24.12 | MentalPower | so I need to go an expand all the headers |
| 08:24.32 | Drundia | that's for GameTooltip:SetHyperlink("quest:1") |
| 08:24.57 | MentalPower | cladhaire: right, thats my point |
| 08:25.17 | cladhaire | okay |
| 08:26.05 | MentalPower | that I need to take into consideration the state of the GUI in order to use the query API |
| 08:26.42 | MentalPower | so I need to store the header's states, expand all of them, query my quests, then return them to the previous state |
| 08:27.19 | MentalPower | instead of a much simpler 'for i=1, GetNumQuests() do local ... = GetQuestInfo(i) end' |
| 08:31.13 | Drundia | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.23 | Drundia | s/spell/quest/ |
| 08:31.38 | Drundia | same for everything :( |
| 08:31.43 | MentalPower | quest links, yes |
| 08:31.56 | MentalPower | but not the info on the quests in your questlog |
| 08:32.09 | MentalPower | and what is "but your own stuff is as always dependent" supposed to mean? |
| 08:32.43 | MentalPower | lua> pairs{} |
| 08:32.53 | MentalPower | --> pairs{} |
| 08:32.53 | batbot | MentalPower: > function: 0x8186f08, table: 0x80edc00, nil |
| 08:33.01 | cladhaire | wth is lua_bot |
| 08:33.25 | MentalPower | isin't that one yours? |
| 08:33.29 | cladhaire | yes |
| 08:33.47 | MentalPower | --> ipairs{} |
| 08:33.47 | batbot | MentalPower: > function: 0x8163968, table: 0x8105eb8, 0 |
| 08:33.54 | cladhaire | hence why i'm asking |
| 08:33.54 | nevcairiel | i bet he never hoped over from #wowi-lounge |
| 08:33.55 | cladhaire | lol |
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| 08:34.09 | MentalPower | lua> pairs{} |
| 08:34.15 | lua_bot | MentalPower: function: 0x6290b0, table: 0x63d7d0, nil |
| 08:34.29 | Drundia | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.43 | cladhaire | Drundia: 1.) please stop quoting people like that |
| 08:34.45 | cladhaire | its unnecessary |
| 08:35.24 | Shirik | lua> return getfenv |
| 08:35.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x629910 |
| 08:36.16 | Drundia | what do you try to find like that? |
| 08:36.33 | MentalPower | for k in function(...) print(...) end, {}, nil do end |
| 08:36.42 | krka | <@cladhaire> Drundia: 1.) please stop quoting people like that -- i agree |
| 08:36.59 | Drundia | yes-yes, i know, i went a bit too far with that |
| 08:37.14 | MentalPower | for k in (function(...) print(...) end, {1,2,3,4,5}, nil) do print("start") end |
| 08:37.28 | MentalPower | lua> for k in (function(...) print(...) end, {1,2,3,4,5}, nil) do print("start") end |
| 08:37.28 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: ')' expected near ',' |
| 08:37.31 | MentalPower | ... |
| 08:37.34 | MentalPower | ~lart me |
| 08:37.34 | purl | frags mentalpower with his BFG9000 |
| 08:37.59 | MentalPower | lua> for k in function(...) print(...) end, {1,2,3,4,5}, nil do print("start") end |
| 08:38.00 | lua_bot | MentalPower: table: 0x630f60, nil |
| 08:39.05 | MentalPower | yes, I'm writing an iterator. yes, its 4:40am. yes, I know the info is in PiL. no, I don't have PiL next to me |
| 08:39.11 | Shirik | hehe |
| 08:39.18 | Shirik | use coroutines |
| 08:39.43 | MentalPower | Shirik: coroutines are not a viable option in this case |
| 08:39.47 | Shirik | ah |
| 08:39.49 | MentalPower | I'm writing a sorted pairs |
| 08:39.52 | nevcairiel | custom iterators can confuse the hell out of you <.< |
| 08:40.17 | MentalPower | as in it will return the key/value pairs in order |
| 08:40.25 | Shirik | I have a solution with an upper bound of O(n^2) if you want it |
| 08:40.31 | MentalPower | sure! |
| 08:40.39 | MentalPower | less work for me == happy mentak |
| 08:40.43 | MentalPower | less work for me == happy MentalPower |
| 08:40.48 | nevcairiel | orderd by key or value? |
| 08:40.56 | MentalPower | (mentak is my WoW char name) |
| 08:40.58 | Shirik | I assume value |
| 08:40.59 | MentalPower | nevcairiel: key |
| 08:41.01 | Shirik | ?? |
| 08:41.03 | Shirik | ipairs? |
| 08:41.07 | nevcairiel | see thats why i ask |
| 08:41.08 | MentalPower | decimals |
| 08:41.14 | Shirik | ok |
| 08:41.23 | Shirik | but theyre all numerical? |
| 08:41.26 | MentalPower | yup |
| 08:41.36 | MentalPower | its the combatlog timestamps |
| 08:41.45 | MentalPower | well... not really |
| 08:41.48 | MentalPower | but same idea |
| 08:42.19 | Drundia | hmmm. you need numerical key order but they aren't consecutive integers? |
| 08:42.26 | MentalPower | correct |
| 08:42.30 | MentalPower | they aren't even ints |
| 08:42.33 | MentalPower | they're all floats |
| 08:42.43 | Drundia | lua doesn't have php-style table order |
| 08:42.45 | MentalPower | and they don't start at 1 |
| 08:43.05 | MentalPower | so ipairs() is not an option |
| 08:43.11 | Drundia | you have to order than using consecutive integers and have them have fields key and value |
| 08:43.21 | Drundia | s/than/them/ |
| 08:43.37 | Drundia | i don't think there is any other way |
| 08:43.42 | MentalPower | currently I have a function that pumps all the keys into a separate table and sorts that table |
| 08:44.01 | Shirik | function genIterator(t) local max = table.maxn(t); return function() local thisMax = -1; for k,v in pairs(t) do if (k > thisMax and k < max) then thisMax = k end end if thisMax == -1 then return nil else max = thisMax; return max; end end end |
| 08:44.04 | Shirik | Completely untested |
| 08:44.41 | Shirik | lua> function genIterator(t) local max = table.maxn(t); return function() local thisMax = -1; for k,v in pairs(t) do if (k > thisMax and k < max) then thisMax = k end end if thisMax == -1 then return nil else max = thisMax; return max; end end end |
| 08:44.41 | lua_bot | Shirik: No output |
| 08:44.45 | Shirik | well it compiles at least :p |
| 08:45.35 | Shirik | lua> function genIterator(t) local max = table.maxn(t); return function() local thisMax = -1; for k,v in pairs(t) do if (k > thisMax and k < max) then thisMax = k end end if thisMax == -1 then return nil else max = thisMax; return max; end end end; for k,v in genIterator{[0.2]=4, [0.1]=7,[1]=8, [100]=9, [50.24]=5} print(k,v) end |
| 08:45.35 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'print' |
| 08:45.46 | Shirik | lua> function genIterator(t) local max = table.maxn(t); return function() local thisMax = -1; for k,v in pairs(t) do if (k > thisMax and k < max) then thisMax = k end end if thisMax == -1 then return nil else max = thisMax; return max; end end end; for k,v in genIterator{[0.2]=4, [0.1]=7,[1]=8, [100]=9, [50.24]=5} do print(k,v) end |
| 08:45.46 | lua_bot | Shirik: 50.24, nil, 1, nil, 0.2, nil, 0.1, nil |
| 08:45.51 | Shirik | oops |
| 08:46.00 | Shirik | I went backwards too |
| 08:46.02 | Drundia | so you have let's say a table t{[1]=1, [2.568423]=2, [10.8]='lalala'} you need to convert it to t={{1,1}, {2.568423,2}, {10.8, 'lalala'}} |
| 08:46.09 | MentalPower | lol |
| 08:46.13 | Drundia | then you sort new table and have to access it |
| 08:46.21 | Drundia | if you need to track down new key use binary search |
| 08:46.24 | Shirik | I am not a comedy act T_T |
| 08:46.27 | Shirik | its 5 AM here |
| 08:46.29 | Drundia | well, pseudo-key |
| 08:46.50 | Drundia | you should have O(log n) to access those keys |
| 08:47.10 | krka | http://pastey.net/85325 |
| 08:47.13 | MentalPower | Shirik: 5am here too |
| 08:47.14 | krka | (tested code) |
| 08:47.21 | cladhaire | who is drundia talking to? |
| 08:47.28 | cladhaire | did i ignore someone who is on the other side of the conversation? |
| 08:47.48 | MentalPower | cladhaire: lol! |
| 08:47.55 | krka | it does an initial sort, but every iteration step after that is constant time |
| 08:48.41 | Drundia | i think i talk to MP |
| 08:49.04 | Shirik | anyway MentalPower at least thats a start |
| 08:49.05 | MentalPower | yes Drundia was talking to me |
| 08:49.08 | cladhaire | ok |
| 08:49.11 | MentalPower | Shirik: thanks |
| 08:49.16 | Shirik | you just need to reverse it |
| 08:49.19 | MentalPower | krka: thanks |
| 08:49.20 | Shirik | and instead of return k, return k,v |
| 08:50.00 | krka | of course, my code assumes the table won't change inside the loop |
| 08:50.10 | Shirik | while its not necessary, I tend to prefer to wrap my iterators |
| 08:50.13 | Drundia | but if we need to add something to such table we'll have at least O(log n) to find where and then O(no one knows what) for table.insert() |
| 08:50.20 | krka | you could add a few safety checks to allow for deletion |
| 08:50.22 | Shirik | so the internal state is maintained |
| 08:50.40 | Shirik | its more expensive but easier |
| 08:51.30 | MentalPower | krka: thats a safe assumption in my case too |
| 08:51.38 | Drundia | you can keep holes for deletion until #t changes |
| 08:51.50 | Drundia | when #t changes you have to rebuild |
| 08:54.58 | Tem | So, this project was due 4 hours ago |
| 08:55.04 | Tem | and I'm kinda sick of working on it. |
| 08:55.09 | MentalPower | Tem: really? mine too :) |
| 08:55.34 | Tem | that said, I think I'm almost done |
| 08:59.17 | Shirik | !g requires a mind more bound by the parameters of sleep |
| 08:59.18 | batbot | Shirik: Images <http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=requires+a+mind+more+bound+by+the+parameters+of+sleep&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi> |
| 08:59.42 | MentalPower | Shirik: that won't work |
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| 09:00.03 | Shirik | :( |
| 09:00.08 | MentalPower | !g required a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection |
| 09:00.09 | batbot | MentalPower: Images <http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=required+a+mind+less+bound+by+the+parameters+of+perfection&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi> |
| 09:00.58 | TheZanke | So... what are the odds I can get an addon that will see when "You gain Cheat Death" hits and then count all absorbed damage until "Cheat Death Fades" hits... and display it in raid alert frame really big |
| 09:01.18 | Shirik | ohhh |
| 09:01.21 | Shirik | Now it makes much more sense |
| 09:01.27 | Shirik | thats from the architect |
| 09:01.32 | MentalPower | yup |
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| 09:02.03 | Shirik | sad that a lot of people didnt like that scene |
| 09:02.05 | Shirik | I liked it |
| 09:02.28 | MentalPower | I *love* that scene |
| 09:02.32 | MentalPower | its my fav |
| 09:02.45 | MentalPower | I also love the neb's docking sequence scene |
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| 09:08.19 | Shirik | wtf does this mean MA_345_01DB - This course is a repeat and does not meet the allowed grades requirement. |
| 09:08.29 | Shirik | I cant register for a class because I didnt fail it badly enough? |
| 09:09.08 | MentalPower | aye |
| 09:09.17 | wereHamster | you ~fail'ed in a class?? |
| 09:09.18 | MentalPower | some colleges do that |
| 09:09.24 | Maldivia | hmm... so that what happens when you're away for the weekend... you get kicked, and the channel is reformed with a new name :) |
| 09:09.32 | Shirik | that is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard of |
| 09:09.36 | MentalPower | Shirik: talk to the dep, they usually allow exceptions |
| 09:09.39 | Shirik | wereHamster: I kinda stopped going to it >< |
| 09:10.07 | MentalPower | lua> table.sort{4,5,6,2,3,1} |
| 09:10.08 | lua_bot | MentalPower: No output |
| 09:10.20 | MentalPower | wierd, I thought table.sort returned the table |
| 09:10.27 | MentalPower | oh well, no problem |
| 09:10.34 | wereHamster | why did you do that? and why do you want to go back? |
| 09:10.45 | Shirik | too busy |
| 09:10.48 | Shirik | and because I have to |
| 09:13.20 | Shirik | I got another error while registering.... |
| 09:13.22 | Shirik | CEC_410_01DB - Error ".": CEC_410_01DB |
| 09:13.25 | Shirik | Thats a great error. |
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| 09:16.20 | Shirik | CEC_420_01DB - Student is not at least a Senior |
| 09:16.23 | Shirik | Someone needs to redesign this system |
| 09:16.29 | Shirik | At the end of the semester I will be a senior! |
| 09:16.31 | Shirik | jeesh. |
| 09:18.01 | wereHamster | you need to be senior now :) |
| 09:18.51 | Maldivia | Shirik: by the time it's been redesigned... you will be a senior... citizen that is... |
| 09:19.08 | Shirik | this is why I always do my registration by paper instead of this stupid web system |
| 09:20.07 | Shirik | omg, impossible |
| 09:20.26 | Shirik | Status: Registered for this section successfully. |
| 09:20.54 | Tem | woot, I think I'm done |
| 09:20.58 | Tem | now I just have to test it |
| 09:20.59 | Tem | QQ |
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| 09:24.28 | Mike-N-Go | I am having an issue with getting Cartographer to synergize with Routes, and Mining modules. |
| 09:24.36 | MentalPower | ZOMG, my NE did a tummy tuck 5 times in a roll! |
| 09:24.42 | Shirik | ss |
| 09:24.57 | Shirik | this is normally something I say to Cairenn, but |
| 09:24.59 | Shirik | MentalPower, go to sleep |
| 09:25.03 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 09:25.13 | MentalPower | hey Mike-N-Go, long time no see |
| 09:25.32 | Mike-N-Go | The mining module is not loaded.. as far as I can tell. |
| 09:25.35 | MentalPower | can't... must... finish... addon... |
| 09:25.47 | Shirik | ~exception MentalPower |
| 09:25.48 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at MentalPower. |
| 09:26.13 | Shirik | ~literal exception |
| 09:26.19 | Shirik | ~literal exception $nick |
| 09:26.20 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at $nick. |
| 09:26.23 | Shirik | bleh |
| 09:26.46 | MentalPower | Shirik: add more exceptions to that list |
| 09:26.50 | Shirik | I want to |
| 09:26.55 | Shirik | but I dont know how to change it |
| 09:27.03 | Shirik | not sure what the trigger is |
| 09:27.15 | Shirik | ~factinfo exception $nick |
| 09:27.15 | purl | Shirik: there's no such factoid as exception $nick |
| 09:27.19 | Shirik | ~factinfo exception $name |
| 09:27.19 | purl | there's no such factoid as exception $name, Shirik |
| 09:27.21 | Shirik | ~factinfo exception $who |
| 09:27.22 | purl | there's no such factoid as exception $who, Shirik |
| 09:27.24 | Shirik | ... |
| 09:27.35 | MentalPower | 'purl no, exception $nick is "doo bar bax"' |
| 09:27.47 | MentalPower | ~exception |
| 09:27.55 | Shirik | but purl is saying exception $nick doesnt exist |
| 09:28.05 | MentalPower | purl exception Shirik |
| 09:28.06 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at Shirik. |
| 09:28.16 | MentalPower | purl exception $nick is foo |
| 09:28.17 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at $nick is foo. |
| 09:28.21 | Tem | I made that factoid |
| 09:28.25 | Tem | but I don't remember how |
| 09:28.35 | Tem | >.> |
| 09:28.41 | Shirik | ~exception Tem |
| 09:28.42 | purl | ACTION throws a NullPointerException at Tem. |
| 09:28.43 | MentalPower | ./join #infobot |
| 09:28.56 | Tem | ~factinfo exception |
| 09:28.56 | purl | there's no such factoid as exception, Tem |
| 09:29.03 | Tem | ~factinfo exception $$ |
| 09:29.04 | purl | Tem: there's no such factoid as exception $$ |
| 09:29.06 | Tem | ~factinfo exception $$nick |
| 09:29.06 | purl | Tem: there's no such factoid as exception $$nick |
| 09:29.10 | Tem | ~factinfo exception $n |
| 09:29.10 | purl | Tem: there's no such factoid as exception $n |
| 09:29.13 | Tem | ~factinfo exception $1 |
| 09:29.13 | purl | Tem: there's no such factoid as exception $1 |
| 09:30.04 | nevcairiel | ~literal exception |
| 09:30.17 | Mike-N-Go | ~lart tem |
| 09:30.17 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up tem |
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| 09:34.56 | Shirik | time for a few zzzz |
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| 09:39.49 | MentalPower | lua> pp{!=1} |
| 09:39.49 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '!' |
| 09:39.56 | MentalPower | lua> pp{@=1} |
| 09:39.57 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '@' |
| 09:41.33 | MentalPower | lua> next() |
| 09:41.34 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got no value) |
| 09:41.36 | MentalPower | lua> next(nil) |
| 09:41.37 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'next' (table expected, got nil) |
| 09:42.29 | wereHamster | next() == next(nil) |
| 09:44.25 | MentalPower | not always |
| 09:44.38 | MentalPower | the C API makes a distinction between nil and no value |
| 09:45.32 | MentalPower | lua> function test(...) print select("#", ...) end test() test(nil) |
| 09:45.32 | lua_bot | MentalPower: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'select' |
| 09:45.46 | MentalPower | lua> function test(...) print(select("#", ...)) end test() test(nil) |
| 09:45.46 | lua_bot | MentalPower: 0, 1 |
| 09:45.54 | MentalPower | wereHamster: ^^^^ |
| 09:46.23 | Drundia | counting varargs also makes distinction |
| 09:46.30 | MentalPower | duh! |
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| 09:46.50 | MentalPower | hence why I chose that versus writing a C function |
| 09:48.06 | Drundia | is it me or lua errors "expect '='" too much? |
| 09:49.32 | wereHamster | MentalPower, I checked that myself just after I wrote it :) |
| 09:51.02 | MentalPower | there are (used to be) some functions in Lua (WoW API) that made that distinction too |
| 09:51.14 | Drundia | number of arguments is at the top of stack when function is called |
| 09:51.22 | Drundia | frame:SetScript() is example of such |
| 09:51.36 | Drundia | you have to pass nil as second parameter to clear script |
| 09:52.20 | MentalPower | ok, I'm falling asleep here, I'll be back in a few hours |
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| 10:08.49 | Tem | :GA#:Ga#:GC#:Gc#:GD#:Gd#:GG#:Gg#:GL#:GR#:Gr#:SG-46*22#:Sr1:5.22# |
| 10:08.52 | Tem | oops |
| 10:09.07 | Tem | woot! |
| 10:09.10 | Tem | it works |
| 10:09.27 | Tem | ... after I submit this |
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| 10:41.46 | Xoc | sorry to bother anyone but I got a small question. my addon_OnLoad() function doesn't seem to want to load at startup, I'm not using any frames or xml, just lua. invoking it manually by /script addon_OnLoad() works fine so the code is alright. I thought I only needed to name the function to the addon name to get it to fire on ui load, what am I missing? |
| 10:42.37 | wereHamster | Xoc, you _need_ a frame which calls your OnLoad function |
| 10:43.04 | wereHamster | or did you expect WoW to automagically call that function? |
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| 10:44.10 | Xoc | I did, was hoping to not have to create a dummy frame for it. |
| 10:44.14 | Maldivia | if you just want the method to run when your addon is loaded, just add a call to it at the end of the last file you load |
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| 10:44.36 | Maldivia | so the last line of your lua file reads: addon_OnLoad(); |
| 10:44.56 | dylanm | In XML the code has to go somewhere, so there's <OnLoad>. If you're just working in Lua then this is entirely unnecessary. |
| 10:45.51 | Maldivia | ofcourse, if you use saved variabled, you have to wait for the ADDON_LOADED event to fire for your addon, to be sure they are loaded |
| 10:47.28 | Xoc | yep, got it thanks everything works past the load, I may have interpreted some help pages on wowwiki as WoW automagically is calling addonname_OnLoad() in the lua after it's been loaded into memory |
| 10:48.35 | amro | nope, that's just a matter of conventino |
| 10:48.42 | amro | s/tino/tion |
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| 11:12.48 | Guillotine | Seriously, this googleapps thing is amazingly cool |
| 11:13.21 | Guillotine | scalable apps with free, easy hosting in very few lines of code |
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| 11:18.08 | amro | Guillotine: isn't most of that stuff already freely available? |
| 11:18.30 | cladhaire | no |
| 11:18.31 | Guillotine | yah. Its more just that you don't have to set it up on your own machine :P |
| 11:18.37 | cladhaire | not the hosting part :P |
| 11:18.39 | Guillotine | Well, its mostly slightly modified |
| 11:18.41 | Guillotine | of course |
| 11:18.48 | Guillotine | I'm talking about the Django and database stuff |
| 11:18.53 | cladhaire | aye |
| 11:19.10 | wereHamster | google using django? |
| 11:19.12 | amro | yeah, but for some reason it's not being shown prominently on the page |
| 11:19.13 | cladhaire | the GFS/Bigtable support + hosting is the catch |
| 11:19.32 | Guillotine | amro: what isn't being shown prominently on what page? |
| 11:19.54 | cladhaire | they're using django templates.. the webapp framework they are using isn't just a modified django |
| 11:19.55 | cladhaire | hardly |
| 11:20.06 | cladhaire | if at all |
| 11:20.45 | amro | the hosting part. most of the page is taken up by GMail and Docs etc |
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| 13:09.49 | ralfWORK | hmmm. if you are guild leader, does the person you hand the guild over to really have to be online to do so? :P |
| 13:10.42 | Mikk | yes |
| 13:10.51 | ralfWORK | *sigh* ok |
| 13:10.57 | Mikk | or well.. used to anyway, since you had no way of targetting the other pereson |
| 13:11.15 | Mikk | unless you can have fun with the APIs directly i guess |
| 13:11.35 | ralfWORK | mm. right, k |
| 13:14.54 | ralfWORK | that sucks |
| 13:15.10 | ralfWORK | seems like you could select them in the guild roster |
| 13:15.17 | ralfWORK | and "promote to guild leader" |
| 13:15.20 | ralfWORK | but I could be wrong |
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| 14:02.09 | Lopeppeppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:05.24 | klip | You dance with party. |
| 14:06.11 | Lopeppeppy | Do I get eaten by a grue? |
| 14:06.16 | Lopeppeppy | It's awful dark in here. |
| 14:06.19 | alestane | Quiet this morning, yes. |
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| 14:06.42 | Lunessa | ... wasabi. |
| 14:07.29 | alestane | I'm starting to get rather annoyed with this Patriarch fellow, but I suppose he's just another "I wanna Bloo response" canonist. |
| 14:08.42 | alestane | It's not a real answer unless he gets it from a CM. |
| 14:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | Patriarch... think why he chose that name for himself, the attitude it implies... he wouldn't believe you if you wrote in smurf blood. |
| 14:10.12 | alestane | Plus, did you see the reason he needs a macro longer than 1023 characters? |
| 14:10.15 | Lunessa | Did we arrive at a new forum asshat? |
| 14:10.29 | alestane | Not as bad as the one you had, but yes. |
| 14:10.40 | alestane | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5754287641&sid=1 |
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| 14:10.52 | Lunessa | And to think, there was a time when I was reguarded as an asshat. :) |
| 14:12.11 | ralfWORK | are we still talking about totem-macro dude? |
| 14:12.33 | alestane | Probably not much longer, there isn't a lot to say about him. |
| 14:12.57 | ralfWORK | idk, I think lololololololololol is pretty applicable |
| 14:13.27 | alestane | I'd rub his nose in the relevant code, but he'd just tell me "where in here does it say 1023?" |
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| 14:26.43 | Lunessa | Why the fuck would you need a macro, in-game of 1K+ length? |
| 14:27.19 | nevcairiel | people just like to cook coffee with macros |
| 14:28.09 | krka | 640 characters should be enough for anyone |
| 14:28.26 | Lunessa | I guess. Any macro that requires 1K of text is better handled as an AddOn. |
| 14:29.55 | _rane | how do you overcome the 255 char limitation? |
| 14:30.02 | _rane | some addon? |
| 14:30.30 | Lunessa | And nevcairiel - nice reference to the "640KB ought to be enough for anyone" from the early 80s. |
| 14:30.55 | wereHamster | lol, One hour has past since the last post. Is this the "Regularly" that your speaking of or should I wait longer. |
| 14:30.56 | nevcairiel | that wasnt me, but thanks! |
| 14:30.57 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:31.15 | Lunessa | Oops. |
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| 14:45.15 | alestane | Lunessa: He basically wants a macro that tries to kill every possible totem. |
| 14:45.37 | Lunessa | Oh, so he's an idiot and a jackass. |
| 14:46.13 | Lunessa | .. /cast [target=mouseover,harm] Ice Lance. Done. |
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| 14:46.24 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 14:46.40 | alestane | Or focus on your damn target instead of trying to retarget after every totem attempt. |
| 14:46.56 | ralfWORK | yea it was pretty good |
| 14:47.05 | ralfWORK | he even had targets for Nature Resist totems |
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| 14:49.28 | Lopeppeppy | I like Lunessa's solution. Simple, elegant, why bother being complex? |
| 14:49.50 | ralfWORK | because apparently he was on totem duty |
| 14:49.58 | ralfWORK | can't just kill everything! must kill totems!\ |
| 14:50.29 | Lunessa | I am uber-mage, by spamming one button, I kill totems. Bear in mind it does me no good in non-pvp situations. |
| 14:51.00 | Drundia | "I also was uber-mage pre-2.0 I could do absolutely everything by spamming one button." |
| 14:52.11 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a rogue, I just stealth past. |
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| 15:18.48 | Mikk | Tbh I don't even think blizzard wants to support macros longer than 1024. It'd start being too close to one-button mashing again. |
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| 15:19.27 | Mikk | You can get _pretty_ damn smart with macros :S |
| 15:19.45 | Mikk | ~mikk |
| 15:19.45 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He likes fiddling with central libraries. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied. |
| 15:19.57 | Fisker- | i win |
| 15:19.58 | Fisker- | I WIN |
| 15:25.53 | Lunessa | ~seen Wobin |
| 15:25.55 | purl | wobin is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 96 messages. Is idling for 24m 10s, last said: 'if she's facing you, use gouge?'. |
| 15:27.05 | Lunessa | Hey Wobin, any chance of a new Xparky build that refreshes without a UI reload? |
| 15:27.05 | Wobin | oh |
| 15:27.06 | Wobin | sure, soon. just have to hook the events to the bars |
| 15:27.06 | Fisker- | sapped girls can't say no eh Wobin? |
| 15:27.38 | Lunessa | Like the features of the new version, but went back to release. Oh.. and ESC doesn't cancel your frame finding tool. |
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| 15:28.04 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.23 | Wobin | Lunessa: hm, that's true, rightclicking does, though |
| 15:28.44 | Lunessa | Wouldn't have thought of that. |
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| 15:31.13 | Wobin | I should put that in the tooltip |
| 15:34.58 | Bela|work | weird |
| 15:35.06 | Bela|work | did the channel get fubared? |
| 15:35.19 | cog|work | Bela|work: ? |
| 15:35.27 | Bela|work | voice and stuff isn't showing on my nick list |
| 15:35.33 | Bela|work | for anyone |
| 15:35.46 | cog|work | works for me |
| 15:35.47 | Bela|work | there it goes |
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| 15:49.05 | inv^gbg | Anyone that can help me with a howto: cross client addon communication? |
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| 15:53.19 | pastamancer | inv^gbg: http://wowwiki.com/API_SendAddonMessage |
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| 15:59.55 | inv^gbg | thanks pastamancer :) |
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| 16:01.27 | frop | hello |
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| 16:32.01 | Lunessa | it can be lunch tiem naow? |
| 16:32.14 | ralfWORK | it haz ben ovar here |
| 16:32.26 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, Lunessa. Go get some food, darlin'. |
| 16:32.35 | Lunessa | Mmm... food. |
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| 16:34.19 | Lunessa | 30 mins. Need to wait for someone to come in. |
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| 16:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, 30 minutes. *hug* |
| 16:37.16 | zenzelezz | a 30-minute hug? Unfair |
| 16:38.17 | ralfWORK | wow |
| 16:38.20 | ralfWORK | that's a long hug |
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| 16:39.38 | Lopeppeppy | I do like to cuddle. |
| 16:40.40 | Lopeppeppy | And today Lunessa is also liking that. I'm content. |
| 16:41.02 | Lunessa | Oh my god... WTF is that crap Patriarch is doing with is macro? I mean FFS? |
| 16:41.13 | Lopeppeppy | You finally actually read that? |
| 16:41.18 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5286576982&sid=1 |
| 16:42.10 | Lunessa | Praise be to the Makers that he doesn't write code for a living. |
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| 16:43.05 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously. Obfuscate much? |
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| 16:44.48 | ralfWORK | hmmm |
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| 16:50.53 | Wulfos | hi there |
| 16:51.21 | ralfWORK | that explains why my target=foo macros didn't work to dispell crap off of R+J when we didn't have a mage to SS :( |
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| 16:53.31 | Wulfos | i have a quite large problem... i made a auto-inviter, which invites a whole raid... now for some reasing the invite for one player stucks... i cant invite him per /invite player (there is no system message in the chat) and even reloggs wont help.... do you know how to solve this problem or to prevent this problem? |
| 16:53.46 | Wulfos | *reason |
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| 16:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | Does that player name have some quirky ascii character thing? |
| 16:54.33 | Wulfos | its just "Hexe" .. nothing special ^^ |
| 16:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | Are you sure? Sometimes those lovely characters are... subtle on purpose. |
| 16:55.20 | ralfWORK | that's interesting |
| 16:55.29 | Wulfos | i am really sure ^^ |
| 16:56.28 | batrick | Shirik|zZz: what is that supposed to mean |
| 16:56.36 | batrick | it is initialized... |
| 16:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | Perhaps you can use the pastey to put up your code, someone might see something there, Wulfos. |
| 16:58.00 | Lopeppeppy | But if you can't manually type /invite Hexe, perhaps there's something not right on a character level, not your addon. I do remember a huge headache with a player of my group who had gotten a rename that didn't perk through the server quite right somehow.... |
| 16:58.35 | wereHamster | Wulfos, can you right-click him and then invite from the menu? |
| 16:59.01 | Wulfos | i had this problem quite a few times... as i made my first version of the inviter last year, i had the same problem with other players.... |
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| 16:59.28 | Lopeppeppy | What was the issue then, and how was it fixed? |
| 16:59.30 | Wulfos | the only reason for solving this is to drop the whole raid and invite it again |
| 16:59.56 | Wulfos | i wasnt able to fix it ^^ it is not often... just every 3 months one time or so xD |
| 17:00.01 | wereHamster | does /invite work if you disable your addon? |
| 17:01.16 | Wulfos | i didnt test it.. but dropping the raid and invite it again works ... i think it is a bug in blizzards code, where the invite was sent to the raids player table.. but the invite never came to the player.. so the raid thinks the player was already invitet, but nobody else thinks this ^^ |
| 17:01.49 | wereHamster | does it happen with Hexe only or with a random person? |
| 17:02.05 | wereHamster | do these people have addons that could block the invite popup? |
| 17:02.36 | Wulfos | after the recreate of the raid it worked also with hexe.... so bad addons cant be the problem... |
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| 17:10.14 | inv^gbg | how do i make a function return something (a string for example)? |
| 17:10.31 | cog|work | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 17:10.47 | cog|work | particularly chapter 5 |
| 17:11.32 | nevcairiel | its as easy as writing "return stringvariable" |
| 17:11.33 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:11.35 | inv^gbg | thx |
| 17:11.57 | cog|work | nevcairiel: which is why i didn't answer directly ;) |
| 17:12.14 | wereHamster | yeah, you should have let him read the pil |
| 17:12.24 | cog|work | teaching to fish and all... (really, it's rather silly to have people asking such basic questions about Lua in this channel) |
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| 17:17.01 | Valaron|Work | Like the for loop question? |
| 17:17.05 | Valaron|Work | yeah.. |
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| 17:44.41 | _rane | any ideas why my chat frame's font changes every time i reload ui? :p |
| 17:44.43 | _rane | i'm using prat |
| 17:46.08 | Gnarfoz | _rane: check if the "font" module is enabled. somehow, since 2.4, if it's disabled, I only get the normal font on initial login. if I reloadUI later on, the font is bold. :\ |
| 17:46.23 | _rane | is it related to this? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8559-ChatSettingsFixPatch2.4.html#info |
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| 17:47.40 | _rane | font module is enabled, and every time i reload ui i have to go to the font settings in prat's config and choose the font again |
| 17:48.26 | Lopeppeppy | Chat frame bugs are discussed endlessly in the UI/Macros forum. It's very likely very related. |
| 17:50.17 | Gnarfoz | it's not related |
| 17:50.37 | Gnarfoz | (because 2.4.1 already fixed the bug that ---^ addon was written to work around) |
| 17:50.53 | _rane | sigh |
| 17:51.09 | _rane | i'm gonna try deleting prat's savedvariables and something.. |
| 17:53.18 | Lopeppeppy | I thought it was stated that the chatfix bug was NOT in 2.4.1 but pushed off to .2. *gentle shrug* |
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| 17:54.18 | Gnarfoz | the chatfix bug is about what chat channels etc. are displayed in ChatFrame1 |
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| 17:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | And this is why I just don't chat. *laugh* |
| 17:58.01 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 17:58.04 | ralfWORK | text is for nubs |
| 17:58.06 | ralfWORK | wait a sec |
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| 17:59.28 | End | ralfWORK: just give up now |
| 17:59.44 | Esamynn | ~laugh ralfWORK |
| 17:59.45 | purl | ibot laughs hysterically at ralfWORK...ow! laughing so hard, it can't breathe... gasp...gasp...gasp.... ..... ... |
| 17:59.48 | ralfWORK | :( |
| 18:00.01 | frop | hello, anyone fighting at Kael as hunter? with a gun? |
| 18:00.10 | ralfWORK | wtf? |
| 18:00.17 | ralfWORK | that's a bit of a randomn question |
| 18:00.27 | End | hunters use guns? |
| 18:00.28 | frop | eheh |
| 18:00.29 | End | :P |
| 18:01.14 | frop | the point is...how to use the fuccka bow? and hunter with a Gun is fucked in a way or another :P |
| 18:02.41 | ralfWORK | eh? the special legendary bow? |
| 18:02.47 | frop | yep |
| 18:03.29 | ralfWORK | erm |
| 18:03.34 | frop | spikes don't fit in an amno pouch :P |
| 18:03.45 | ralfWORK | oh, you RP alot don't you? |
| 18:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | its easy, you use the bow, you use the arrows, you suck it up and deal. :P |
| 18:04.33 | End | aren't you given a bow too? |
| 18:04.38 | End | in that fight? |
| 18:05.05 | NightHawkTheSane | End: his point is that you ONLY get a bow, and not a gun, so "wah wah, my ammo pouch for teh gun i normally use is useless" |
| 18:05.15 | End | ah |
| 18:06.09 | frop | indeed |
| 18:06.18 | End | well, don't you still get the ammo pouch bonus either way |
| 18:06.23 | End | you just waste more bag space |
| 18:06.26 | frop | and as BM, the gun from wolf is the most DPS available |
| 18:07.05 | frop | so i need to lose 15% speed for first 2phases... |
| 18:07.14 | frop | ...btw, i guess i'm a bit OT :) |
| 18:07.23 | ralfWORK | frop: just don't use the legendary |
| 18:07.24 | ralfWORK | lolololol |
| 18:07.27 | NightHawkTheSane | or you can clear enough inventory space to grab a quiver, or use a regular bag slot |
| 18:07.39 | NightHawkTheSane | either way, quit bitching, suck it up, and use the weapon, it helps the raid. |
| 18:08.15 | frop | i can clear bag slot...and you can shoot from bagslot...but you lose quiver/pouch bonus |
| 18:08.34 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: pong |
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| 18:12.33 | Atriace | Anyone familiar with the purpose of event UNIT_FLAGS? |
| 18:13.14 | Atriace | There doesn't seem to be documentation on it. |
| 18:15.35 | Kirov | Atriace - May not be used anymore |
| 18:16.19 | Kirov | I believe it used to signal a client's pvp status |
| 18:16.28 | Kirov | I couldn't say for sure though. |
| 18:16.51 | Atriace | Naw... it's still being used. Returns a single arg1="unit" |
| 18:17.15 | haste | it fires when you sit, that's all I remember |
| 18:17.40 | Kirov | http://wdnaddons.com/0408049/FrameXML/PetActionBarFrame.lua |
| 18:17.50 | Kirov | Only place it's used in the Blizzard code |
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| 18:17.59 | Kirov | <3 site: google searches |
| 18:19.12 | haste | git grep is superior |
| 18:19.37 | dylanm | You're superior. |
| 18:19.54 | Atriace | Your code is superior... |
| 18:19.58 | Atriace | and your mom. |
| 18:20.38 | Esamynn | ~lart Atriace |
| 18:20.38 | purl | hits Atriace with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 18:20.53 | Atriace | Alright, I guess it's just what it sounds like. Each unit has different flags (ie., in combat, resting, dead) and this event fires when they recieve them. |
| 18:20.53 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 18:20.53 | purl | :), Esamynn |
| 18:22.25 | alestane | Atriace: UNIT_FLAGS also trips when a unit turns "Show CLoak" or "Show Helm" on or off. At least that's what I infer from the UIOptionsPanels code. |
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| 18:23.35 | Kirov | Could use something like devtools to see if there's another event that fires at the same time. |
| 18:28.10 | MentalPower | ScytheBlade1: re-ping |
| 18:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: re-pong |
| 18:28.57 | MentalPower | do you happen to know if pets have a stable ID like other NPCs do? |
| 18:29.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't think they do |
| 18:29.23 | ScytheBlade1 | But let me check real quick |
| 18:29.37 | Atriace | MentalPower: all pets have a UnitGUID given to them when they're first created (just like players) |
| 18:29.45 | Atriace | They don't lose it. |
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| 18:30.38 | MentalPower | Atriace: yes, but my question is if that guid can be broken down to id and random parts like the NPC guids |
| 18:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Felhunter: 0xF140039008000904 |
| 18:35.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Imp: 0xF140039009000905 |
| 18:36.09 | ralfWORK | they all start with "0x"!!11!11 |
| 18:36.15 | ralfWORK | 0x = warlock owner |
| 18:36.27 | MentalPower | ~lart ralfWORK |
| 18:36.27 | purl | strangles ralfWORK with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 18:36.30 | ralfWORK | D: |
| 18:36.43 | Dotted | ~lart everyone |
| 18:36.43 | purl | teaches everyone that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 18:37.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Let me go collect a few more |
| 18:38.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Wind Serpent: 0xF14055AC330008F5 |
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| 18:39.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Looks like they cannot be decoded like mobs can |
| 18:40.17 | Drundia | they are all 0xF14... |
| 18:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cat: 0xF1404D017900088C, 0xF1400372F900092D |
| 18:40.31 | Drundia | maybe 0 after it |
| 18:40.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Drundia: <+MentalPower> Atriace: yes, but my question is if that guid can be broken down to id and random parts like the NPC guids |
| 18:40.55 | MentalPower | Drundia: pets are type4 objects |
| 18:40.55 | Drundia | i think everything else is random |
| 18:41.04 | zenzelezz | there's something sweet about the randomness of the lyrics for "Absurd" |
| 18:42.08 | Drundia | petguid and 0xFFFF000000000000 = 0xF140000000000000 it seems |
| 18:42.42 | Drundia | that's what i mean by saying "they are all 0xF14..." |
| 18:43.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Drundia: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=28#547 |
| 18:43.33 | ScytheBlade1 | We know that :) |
| 18:43.56 | MentalPower | Drundia: We know that part, and its actually petguid and 0x00F0000000000000 = 0x0040000000000000 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&sid=1&pageNo=28#547) |
| 18:44.03 | Drundia | ok i see |
| 18:44.03 | MentalPower | bah, I', slow |
| 18:44.03 | ScytheBlade1 | MentalPower: beat you! |
| 18:44.29 | MentalPower | I had it typed up before you did, but I went to look for the link :( |
| 18:44.42 | ScytheBlade1 | I got the link too ;) |
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| 19:00.05 | Lunessa | .Doh.. My WoWWiki account got purged! |
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| 19:00.37 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 19:01.03 | MentalPower | Lunessa: /join #WoWWiki |
| 19:01.15 | Lunessa | I should. Thanks. |
| 19:01.17 | MentalPower | they should be able to sort it out, it was probably renamed |
| 19:01.32 | MentalPower | cause they merged the WoWWiki and Wikia DBs |
| 19:01.36 | Lunessa | It doesn't exist. I could just re-create it. No big deal. :) |
| 19:02.00 | MentalPower | so accts that shared the same name were renamed |
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| 19:45.46 | Cairenn | BOO! |
| 19:46.29 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on digg, so a lot of you have probably seen this already |
| 19:46.30 | ScytheBlade1 | but: http://improveverywhere.com/2008/04/07/best-game-ever/ |
| 19:46.35 | MentalPower | ~literal cmd: exception (.*?) |
| 19:46.36 | purl | "cmd: exception (.*?)" is "($1): <action>throws a NullPointerException at $1." |
| 19:46.39 | MentalPower | Shirik: ^^^^ |
| 19:46.57 | Guillotine | I spent too many hours looking through the improveverywhere site last night Scythe >< |
| 19:47.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Guillotine: did you see that one? |
| 19:47.10 | Guillotine | yah, thats what got me onto the site |
| 19:47.12 | Guillotine | from reddit |
| 19:47.13 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
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| 19:49.09 | AnduinLothar | Just a heads up: The cosmos chat channel has shut down and will be redirecting discussion here. So there may be more questions about patcher troubleshooting. Some reference links. Cosmos Forums: http://www.cosmosui.org/forums/ FAQ Forum: http://www.cosmosui.org/forumdisplay.php?f=72 Wiki FAQ: http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_FAQ Patcher Info: http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Patcher |
| 19:53.32 | cladhaire | thanks AnduinLothar |
| 19:54.19 | Kirov | NO OH GAUD NO!!! THE FLOOD OF COSMOS USERS IS OVERWHELMING!!! NOOOO |
| 19:54.21 | Kirov | </ass> |
| 19:54.29 | Esamynn | ~lart Kirov |
| 19:54.29 | purl | slaps Kirov upside the head with a wet fish |
| 19:54.41 | AnduinLothar | usually only get 5-10 a day, mostly patcher questions |
| 19:55.09 | AnduinLothar | not enough active people in the channel to field the questions |
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| 20:05.40 | ralfWORK | so this is becoming the ultimate channel nao? |
| 20:06.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently! |
| 20:06.22 | ralfWORK | *flex* |
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| 20:17.51 | kd3 | heh... [Silly] In order to protest the protest against China, China condemns the condemnation of China |
| 20:18.31 | ralfWORK | rofl |
| 20:19.25 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 20:22.06 | TecnoBrat | lolwut |
| 20:22.12 | sylvanaar_work | ok im trying to get my feet wet with swig - so far it looks like a dream come true |
| 20:23.03 | nevcairiel | i wonder if that works as good as it promises |
| 20:24.06 | Kirov | swig? |
| 20:24.29 | dylanm | Simplified Wrapper and Interface Generator |
| 20:26.09 | wereHamster | short SWIG :) |
| 20:26.50 | nevcairiel | the idea behind it is amazing |
| 20:27.00 | nevcairiel | just create new modules for anything on the fly |
| 20:27.29 | nevcairiel | anything being the stuff supported by SWIG :p |
| 20:27.52 | pastamancer | and yet subversion's python bindings (via swig) suck ass |
| 20:28.22 | nevcairiel | well they didnt say it would be the best or fastest implementation |
| 20:28.40 | nevcairiel | just that it would be one and you dont have to know shit about python modules to create them :D |
| 20:29.18 | pastamancer | except that most of the functions aren't even usable because the casting between python objects and C structs wasn't done right in the subversion swig stuff |
| 20:29.26 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:29.38 | pastamancer | I ended up using pysvn instead |
| 20:30.14 | AnduinLothar | i'm lost |
| 20:33.20 | sylvanaar_work | well, the bindings i need are not called frequently |
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| 20:34.16 | sylvanaar_work | but there are *alot* of them |
| 20:35.09 | sylvanaar_work | and none of them are simple function calls |
| 20:35.29 | sylvanaar_work | structs galore |
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| 20:40.34 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar_work: oh, hey, if you're still paying attention here.. did your modifications to WIM ever get put into the actual release, or are you still maintaining a version on the wowace svn repo? |
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| 20:45.01 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: stabbing seems needlessly repetitive. Wouldn't it be easier to just, oh say, mustard gas them? |
| 20:46.20 | Shirik | MentalPower? |
| 20:46.51 | MentalPower | ~literal cmd: exception (.*?) |
| 20:46.51 | purl | "cmd: exception (.*?)" is "($1): <action>tries to throw a NullPointerException at $1." |
| 20:46.57 | MentalPower | Shirik: ^^^^ |
| 20:47.09 | Shirik | tries? |
| 20:47.14 | Shirik | ~exception MentalPower |
| 20:47.15 | purl | ACTION tries to throw a NullPointerException at MentalPower. |
| 20:47.19 | Shirik | I never saw that before :P |
| 20:47.21 | MentalPower | timriker changed it |
| 20:47.28 | Shirik | ah |
| 20:47.30 | MentalPower | as a demosntration |
| 20:47.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: mustard gas isn't nearly as good a stress reliever though. |
| 20:47.57 | MentalPower | ~listkeys exception |
| 20:48.05 | Shirik | omg |
| 20:48.05 | Shirik | <3 |
| 20:48.23 | Lunessa | I'm a Write Once, Run Many kind of guy. *shrug* |
| 20:48.48 | krka | i'm a kind of guy! |
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| 20:49.00 | ralfWORK | I'm a many kind of guy |
| 20:49.07 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/WoW/2.4/ConstructsInTheRaid-Annotated.png <-- I wonder if that will help my raid understand things :) |
| 20:49.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm a kind of guy. |
| 20:49.20 | NightHawkTheSane | dammit krka ' |
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| 20:52.31 | wereHamster | ScytheBlade1, nicely done the image |
| 20:55.01 | ScytheBlade1 | wereHamster: yeah, that was the idea |
| 20:55.01 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: you want the constructs at the boss? |
| 20:55.15 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: want more room between their spawn point and the raid |
| 20:55.35 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: what about the melee and tank? |
| 20:55.36 | ralfWORK | I thought you grouped up |
| 20:55.43 | ralfWORK | *shrug* ik |
| 20:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Supposed to group up, yes |
| 20:55.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Hence my screenshot of good/bad :) |
| 20:55.52 | zenzelezz | whatever works for your guild, always |
| 20:56.09 | ralfWORK | lol |
| 20:56.14 | zenzelezz | but I did think most people tanked him down there, along with the whole raid group, and popped ghosts at entrance |
| 20:57.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup, that is the idea |
| 20:57.42 | zenzelezz | hm, is the green indicating where you want the ghosts or the raid? |
| 20:57.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Want the raid to stand |
| 20:58.04 | zenzelezz | ah, I thought it was where you wanted the ghosts... for some reason. Brain fart |
| 20:58.08 | NightHawkTheSane | wow, no offense ScytheBlade1 but that looks like a fucked up raid position. :p |
| 20:58.14 | NightHawkTheSane | (which is probably the point of the image, i'm just saying :P) |
| 20:58.25 | Shirik | is that his constructs picture that he was showing last night? |
| 20:58.34 | zenzelezz | in that case the picture is almost as good as the "how to reach Hydross" guide picture |
| 20:58.38 | Shirik | lmao he put good and bad on it |
| 20:58.39 | Shirik | <3 ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:58.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: I -Annotated it |
| 21:00.30 | zenzelezz | this still makes me laugh: http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/4795/gallery52310512oz3.png |
| 21:01.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol that is a good picture |
| 21:01.13 | ralfWORK | hahahahah that's awesome |
| 21:01.23 | zenzelezz | the sad part is about half of my raid group really needed it |
| 21:01.56 | ralfWORK | the only time I was there people died |
| 21:02.03 | ralfWORK | this was supposedly with an experienced raid group |
| 21:02.07 | ralfWORK | l2aldor basically |
| 21:02.29 | zenzelezz | actually, the SSC one is harder |
| 21:02.43 | sylvanaar_work | NightHawkTheSane yes, they are in WIM |
| 21:02.49 | zenzelezz | if you try to be smart and use a parachute cloak, you may hit one of the beams on the way down before you use the cloak |
| 21:03.03 | ralfWORK | rofl I guess |
| 21:03.03 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar_work: thanks. :) |
| 21:03.18 | ralfWORK | aldor will teach you to not treat elevators lightly :P |
| 21:03.26 | Kirov | lol |
| 21:03.32 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, a couple bad experiences with the UC elevator does that too :P |
| 21:03.43 | zenzelezz | while Scryer teaches you that you can safely jump lifts |
| 21:03.45 | NightHawkTheSane | or, you know, the TB elevator, or the 1k needles elevator.. |
| 21:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | I also linked that screenshot + WWS report to a (former) hardcore raiding rogue friend of mine |
| 21:03.57 | NightHawkTheSane | its not like blizzard has a habit of making elevators you can safely fall from the top of. :P |
| 21:03.58 | ScytheBlade1 | He died of laughter IRL for 3 straight minutes |
| 21:04.05 | ScytheBlade1 | And then said "WAIT" "I GOT IT" "SEC" |
| 21:04.05 | Shirik | batrick: ping? |
| 21:04.06 | Kirov | NightHawkTheSane - more reasons to not be Horde! |
| 21:04.12 | ralfWORK | hahahhahaah |
| 21:04.12 | ScytheBlade1 | And drew us this picture: http://roflwut.com/teron.png |
| 21:04.19 | Kirov | (aka More reasons alliance are pansies) |
| 21:04.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Kirov: we call it the stupidity filter. :P |
| 21:04.35 | ralfWORK | ScytheBlade1: AHHAHAHH even better! |
| 21:04.36 | Guillotine | Well, I've changed my mind. I've decided I do like Python |
| 21:04.42 | Guillotine | though debugging is a real pain in the ass |
| 21:04.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: that wins. |
| 21:04.44 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: nice one :) |
| 21:05.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Both my picture (and the annotated version), and that picture, are linked on my guild forums |
| 21:05.31 | zenzelezz | I should draw a picture of the second stair up towards Teron to teach mages which side is the left side and which side is the WHY THE HELL DID YOU PULL TWO GROUPS AGAIN side |
| 21:05.41 | wereHamster | how does one find out whether the PCI-Express bus is x8 or x16 in windows? |
| 21:05.42 | ScytheBlade1 | LOL YES |
| 21:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I SHALL DO THE SAME |
| 21:06.03 | ralfWORK | rofl |
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| 21:07.02 | Lunessa | were... use DXDiag |
| 21:07.36 | zenzelezz | "Holyballs"... dwarf paladin o_O |
| 21:07.49 | Lunessa | ... o.0 |
| 21:07.54 | Atriace | Does the mouse exist as a frame? I'd like to anchor to it but I can't find a reference to it (other than functions). |
| 21:08.39 | Legorol | Atriace: it doesn't |
| 21:09.02 | Legorol | you can only anchor tooltips to it |
| 21:09.04 | Atriace | So, I'd have to go the route of getmouseposition, onupdate set position x,y? |
| 21:09.11 | Legorol | yup |
| 21:09.12 | Maul|TrinityUI | Atriace: No, but you can create a tooltip frame that is anchored to the cursor, and then do what you want to the new tooltip frame. |
| 21:09.17 | Legorol | or anchor an invisible tooltip to it |
| 21:09.26 | Legorol | damn, Maul|TrinityUI beat me :) |
| 21:09.39 | Maul|TrinityUI | :) |
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| 21:09.52 | Atriace | The irony... I'd like to replace default blizzard tooltips and I'd have to use a tooltip to anchor it... sigh. |
| 21:10.26 | Legorol | it's not that bad though, it's fire and forget |
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| 21:10.33 | Atriace | aye |
| 21:10.36 | Legorol | you create/anchor the tooltip once, make it always visible, and that's it |
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| 21:11.09 | Legorol | for added effects, make the tooltip actually have a texture, make it pink, and make it 100x100 :) |
| 21:11.47 | Lunessa | Especially if the texture is a big middle-finger. |
| 21:12.50 | Atriace | er... |
| 21:13.43 | Atriace | Forgive my stubborness to exclude tooltips altogether, but I can't seem to find an API for getting the mouse X,Y. Is there one? |
| 21:13.44 | Kirov | nah, make the texture clippy |
| 21:13.54 | Kirov | GetCursorPosition() |
| 21:14.04 | Atriace | Ah... cursor. I was searching for mouse. |
| 21:14.23 | Kirov | Cursor and Mouse are used back and forth |
| 21:15.21 | zenzelezz | gah, what happened to the WoWWiki left-side menu? At least now the search box is finally visible when I load the page |
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| 21:15.57 | Atriace | zenzelezz: I noticed the layout being different on a friends computer, but it's still the standard on mine (while logged in). Perhaps you changed a preference? |
| 21:16.31 | zenzelezz | I don't even have an account |
| 21:16.46 | Atriace | Maybe it's time. :) |
| 21:17.14 | kd3 | we changed the default skin for non-logged-in users on monay |
| 21:17.51 | Atriace | kd3: how's the reception been? |
| 21:17.53 | kd3 | if you're logged in, you can change the skin to the new one in your preferences. we'll keep the monobrook-based skin, but it's not going to be getting updated |
| 21:17.55 | kd3 | pretty good |
| 21:18.41 | zenzelezz | the "new" one (to me) just looks so odd, but I rarely used it... I'm just thrilled to have the search box on top, not halfway down the page |
| 21:19.15 | zenzelezz | if I create an account, do I get rid of these hideously mismatched green buttons? |
| 21:19.28 | kd3 | just by logging in they go away |
| 21:19.59 | zenzelezz | that implies creating an account :-p So I take that as a "yes" |
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| 21:20.00 | ScytheBlade1 | I should add the wiki to my list of sites that are permitted to keep cookies |
| 21:20.39 | kd3 | meh, I don't. all cookies get wiped the instant I close firefox. you'll want to whitelist us (and wikia) for noscript, though |
| 21:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, that way I can stay logged in |
| 21:21.45 | zenzelezz | somehow this captcha doesn't look... normal to me... maybe because it's the name of a business associate o_O |
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| 21:23.31 | Tuller | hey Tekkub I'm going to not read things and tell you that you failed to include libstub in amp :P |
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| 21:23.57 | NightHawkTheSane | there's no sane way to get the size of a non-numerically indexed table in lua, is there? |
| 21:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Not really |
| 21:24.38 | zenzelezz | there, got a wiki account... seems a waste when I don't edit anyway, but those green buttons... |
| 21:24.42 | ArrowmasterClass | only by looping over it and counting |
| 21:24.42 | Shirik | >>> Test |
| 21:24.48 | Shirik | grr |
| 21:24.49 | Shirik | stupid quotes |
| 21:25.00 | NightHawkTheSane | ArrowmasterClass: yah, see, thats not "sane", merely functional. :P |
| 21:25.17 | ArrowmasterClass | Shirik: your quotes suck |
| 21:25.28 | AbsoRayne | Who wants to see mah kittens! |
| 21:25.34 | Arrowmaster` | inverted S and T in irssi |
| 21:26.18 | AbsoRayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/ktens.jpg mwa |
| 21:26.43 | zenzelezz | cute |
| 21:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ~pil |
| 21:26.49 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 21:28.40 | Shirik | batrick come back to meh T_T |
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| 21:32.12 | MentalPower | hi zeeg |
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| 21:32.24 | zeeg | hi |
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| 21:37.42 | Unregistered | wtb peen0r pst. |
| 21:37.51 | zenzelezz | oh my |
| 21:37.53 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 21:37.59 | zenzelezz | he really stuck it to the man, didn't he |
| 21:38.03 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 21:38.07 | zenzelezz | shocked us to our very cores |
| 21:38.07 | Cairenn | I'm impressed |
| 21:38.45 | Kirov | Do you think he meant pinor noir? |
| 21:38.54 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:39.05 | MentalPower | cog|work could get him some if that is true :P |
| 21:39.26 | Tekkub | cog|work has peen0rs to spare |
| 21:39.33 | Kirov | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2723 |
| 21:39.36 | Tekkub | he's can't find places to store them all |
| 21:39.50 | cog|work | Tekkub: actually i keep them in my basement |
| 21:40.01 | Tekkub | hrm... damp dark place? |
| 21:40.12 | cog|work | cool |
| 21:40.21 | cog|work | more than damp or dark |
| 21:40.24 | zenzelezz | for better grip |
| 21:40.54 | zenzelezz | got to hate when in slips in your hand and spills all over |
| 21:40.58 | zenzelezz | *it |
| 21:40.59 | cog|work | actually i don't have THAT many... but the ones i do have are worth lots of $ |
| 21:42.04 | AbsoRayne | Cairenn: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/ktens.jpg !! |
| 21:42.14 | Cairenn | awww, kitteh! |
| 21:42.16 | Kirov | I actually have an uncle who's big in to wine. If the bottle isn't worth at least $500, he won't let it touch his lips. |
| 21:43.18 | globalduck1313 | Gah I can think of a LOT of better things to spend $500 on |
| 21:43.38 | NightHawkTheSane | like two bottles of probably-about-as-good-but-half-as-expensive wine? ;) |
| 21:43.45 | globalduck1313 | LOL |
| 21:43.57 | cog|work | Kirov: i think $500 is a bit much... ours are highly sought-after and this release was the first time we broke $100 retail. (though the after market price for said wine is probably more in the $350 to $400 range) |
| 21:44.13 | globalduck1313 | nice |
| 21:45.01 | zenzelezz | do these special wines have extra long duration (or whatever it's called)? I hear most wine don't last more than a couple of years |
| 21:46.30 | globalduck1313 | personally ..if im gonna spend $500 on alcohol im gonna buy a bottle of Jamisons Special reserve 80yr old whiskey.....thats the ticket..but then im not much of a wine drinker |
| 21:47.36 | Kirov | Cheap wine won't last too long, but decent quality wine, if taken care of, can last for quite a while. Though, any wine if left in a place too warm, or exposed to air, will go bad in short order. |
| 21:48.24 | cog|work | zenzelezz: it really depends. reds last longer than whites as a rule, but with high quality wines they can go decades or longer |
| 21:48.46 | Kirov | Wine bottles are stored with the cork down to prevent the cork from drying out and cracking, thus allowing air to get in and ruin it. |
| 21:48.51 | cog|work | I took a call from someone who bought a bottle of our wine that's almost as old as me and said it was fabulous |
| 21:49.07 | zenzelezz | all I know is a workmate was going to give a 10-year lasting one to a couple getting married but couldn't get anything lasting longer than 5 |
| 21:49.16 | zenzelezz | assume his budget wasn't very high |
| 21:50.05 | Kirov | My dad tends to go to Trader Joe's and buy "2 Buck Chuck" when it's for sale at half off. |
| 21:50.23 | cog|work | heh |
| 21:50.35 | Lunessa | The great thing about wine is that it doesn't have to be pricy to be good. |
| 21:50.45 | globalduck1313 | true |
| 21:51.07 | cog|work | 2 buck chuck is definitely better than, say, Franzia :P |
| 21:51.35 | Kirov | A lot of what makes wine expensive is how rare it is (how many bottles they made of that year) and the quality of the bottling. |
| 21:51.47 | Kirov | Oh, and where it's from. |
| 21:52.01 | cog|work | yep. here at kistler we sell out every single release with hundreds of mailing list members left wanting... |
| 21:52.14 | cog|work | hence the 300%+ markup after market |
| 21:52.27 | Lunessa | ... do you make a reisling? |
| 21:52.28 | Lunessa | :P |
| 21:52.34 | cog|work | chard & pinot noir only |
| 21:52.57 | cog|work | at about 4:1 production ratio |
| 21:53.14 | globalduck1313 | a friend of mine introduced me to a white merlot from Beringer and I gotta say it was very good |
| 21:53.28 | cog|work | We bottle their wine ;) |
| 21:53.34 | globalduck1313 | at least to my unrefined palette |
| 21:53.55 | cog|work | (well we used to) |
| 21:54.25 | Lunessa | Beringer is pretty ok. :) |
| 21:55.08 | Kirov | I like Malibu Rum, Triple Sec, Peach Schnapps, Orange juice, and Grenadine.... mostly. |
| 21:55.54 | cog|work | Kirov: were you here a couple weeks ago when i rattled off my liquor cabinet contents? |
| 21:56.01 | cog|work | XD |
| 21:56.31 | Kirov | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epa5YZIJU8I |
| 21:56.38 | Kirov | cog - probably not |
| 21:57.00 | mikma | http://wow.reaktio.net/polevault5.png <- my totembar :) |
| 21:58.53 | Kirov | lol |
| 21:59.08 | Kirov | damn, I never realized how many damn totems there really were |
| 21:59.39 | mikma | and there's 1 totem missing from that shot |
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| 21:59.54 | mikma | it's either Totem of Wrath or Mana Tide Totem :P both come from talent |
| 22:00.41 | Tuller | quick, someone gimmie a replacement for king of the jungle (feed pet button) |
| 22:00.56 | mikma | Tuller: Tekkub has one i think? |
| 22:01.14 | Tekkub | Tekkub has a frond and a bear |
| 22:01.19 | kergoth | i use GFW_FeedOMatic, myself. not a button, at least not a visible one, just /click it |
| 22:01.47 | Tuller | if I remember i don't use that because I didn't feel like killing off the macros :P |
| 22:01.51 | Tuller | err emotes |
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| 22:04.44 | Lunessa | too many totems on screen. (I use YATA) |
| 22:04.45 | batrick | Shirik: wut |
| 22:05.10 | Shirik | I just found a bug in Lua I think ^_^ but more importantly, where do you initialize the mutexes during filum.create? |
| 22:05.13 | mikma | Lunessa: i like to see them all on my screen tho :P |
| 22:05.21 | batrick | in lthread_create |
| 22:05.35 | mikma | sometimes i use a macro in instances but other than that, i want them to be there.. :) |
| 22:06.23 | Shirik | I cant find an lthread_create :/ |
| 22:06.31 | Lunessa | http://theroundtable.wowstead.com/gallery/6#32 - it's the little bar over the mini-map. It has pop-up buttons sorted by element. |
| 22:06.40 | batrick | it's in lthread_c |
| 22:06.43 | batrick | lthread.c* |
| 22:07.32 | Shirik | mm |
| 22:07.44 | Shirik | I think its in an invisible font |
| 22:07.56 | mikma | Lunessa: also it has the inaccurate totem timers that i wasn't unable to disable, that's the reason why i coded my own keke |
| 22:08.16 | Lunessa | *nod* I just wanted smaller space. |
| 22:08.33 | Lunessa | I macro most of mine use, and then click things I'm not using all the time. |
| 22:09.02 | mikma | i found it hard to hit the correct totem with YATA in panic :P which i'm almost all the time in |
| 22:09.16 | mikma | *waaaaaaah* clickclickclicketyclick |
| 22:09.33 | Shirik | yatta yatta daigaku gogaku |
| 22:09.36 | Lunessa | Heh, yeah. |
| 22:09.39 | Kirov | I'm surprised there haven't been many addons that use temporary rebindings |
| 22:10.16 | mikma | Kirov: Ogri'lazy is one |
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| 22:15.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to instantly zoom your camera all the way in? I want to get rid of the scrolling in "lag" when you hit the mousewheel |
| 22:15.47 | Kirov | Used to be, the CVar seems to be ignored |
| 22:16.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That complicates things greatly |
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| 22:18.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Argh, they're all "smoothed out" |
| 22:18.21 | ScytheBlade1 | Even SaveView() and SetView() |
| 22:18.31 | batrick | clad|office: I win =) |
| 22:18.37 | clad|office | ? |
| 22:18.39 | clad|office | huh? |
| 22:18.47 | batrick | I got a handle to a file object =) |
| 22:19.00 | clad|office | okay then please explain how |
| 22:19.05 | clad|office | that's why i asked you to |
| 22:19.49 | batrick | You should patch your Lua |
| 22:20.53 | ArrowmasterClass | ScytheBlade1: use SetView() but do it twice in a row with the same view |
| 22:21.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ArrowmasterClass: you are awesome |
| 22:22.18 | ArrowmasterClass | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.39 | ScytheBlade1 | ArrowmasterClass: /run if (_temp == nil) then temp = 0; end if (_temp == 0) then SetView(2); SetView(2); _temp = 1 else SetView(3); SetView(3); _temp = 0; end <-- epic win macro |
| 22:25.40 | Cide | that's a supermessy macro |
| 22:25.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It is |
| 22:25.47 | ScytheBlade1 | but it works! |
| 22:26.46 | Kirov | wow, generic global values ... evil |
| 22:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, very evil |
| 22:29.02 | batrick | Shirik: new_lthread sorry |
| 22:29.13 | Cide | /run _temp = 1 - (_temp or 1); local s,i=SetView, _temp+2; s(id); s(id); |
| 22:29.14 | Cide | better |
| 22:29.22 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:29.31 | Cide | err |
| 22:29.34 | Cide | s/id/i/ |
| 22:29.34 | Shirik | heh |
| 22:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | If macro length was a problem I'd abuse that |
| 22:29.38 | Shirik | .... I like this |
| 22:29.42 | Shirik | while(!lua_isnil(L, -1) && (lua_pop(L, 1), 1 /* Little hack to clean the stack */ )) |
| 22:29.47 | Cide | ~failrik |
| 22:29.48 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:30.22 | batrick | Shirik, lua_settop(L, 0) |
| 22:30.24 | batrick | doiwin? |
| 22:30.34 | Shirik | nono >< |
| 22:30.38 | Shirik | theres stuff in the do...while |
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| 22:30.50 | Shirik | specifically a lua_rawgeti |
| 22:30.51 | batrick | whateva man |
| 22:31.05 | Shirik | im trying to find the maximum negative index after a given start point |
| 22:31.28 | ArrowmasterClass | rofl @ ~failrik |
| 22:31.37 | batrick | >>> a = unpack({}, 2^31-1, 2^31+10); print(a) -- for k in pairs(a) do print(k) end |
| 22:31.37 | Cide | batrick: 2147483647 |
| 22:31.49 | batrick | >>> a = unpack({}, 2^31-1, 2^31+4); print(a) -- for k in pairs(a) do print(k) end |
| 22:31.50 | Cide | batrick: 2147483647 |
| 22:31.54 | batrick | that's interesting |
| 22:32.06 | batrick | Cide: do you have any initialization code? |
| 22:32.20 | Cide | not following |
| 22:32.32 | batrick | well, do you do stuff before executing their code? |
| 22:32.36 | Cide | sure |
| 22:32.40 | Cide | I nil out some globals and stuff |
| 22:32.46 | batrick | any locals? |
| 22:32.54 | Shirik | if you crash Lua, it doesnt affect Cide in the slightest |
| 22:32.55 | Cide | probably |
| 22:33.08 | Shirik | python just laughs and says lol, stupid Lua |
| 22:33.20 | batrick | >>> a = unpack({}, 2^31-1, 2^31+6); print(a) |
| 22:33.20 | Cide | batrick: 2147483647 |
| 22:33.28 | batrick | i dunno that wierd |
| 22:33.53 | batrick | >>> print(unpack({}, 2^31-1, 2^31+6)) |
| 22:33.53 | Cide | batrick: 2147483647, 2147483654 |
| 22:33.58 | batrick | O.o |
| 22:34.25 | batrick | o shit |
| 22:34.33 | batrick | Cide are you on 64 bit machine? |
| 22:34.42 | Cide | yes, but vista is running 32bit |
| 22:34.46 | ArrowmasterClass | lol |
| 22:34.54 | batrick | thats fucking wierd |
| 22:35.04 | batrick | >>> print(unpack({}, 2^63-1, 2^63+6)) |
| 22:35.05 | Cide | batrick: nil |
| 22:35.47 | batrick | that number should be negative |
| 22:35.52 | batrick | the second one |
| 22:36.10 | Shirik | >>> 2^63-1 |
| 22:36.10 | Cide | Shirik: 9.2233720368548e+018 |
| 22:36.20 | Shirik | I believe you fail at determining what is a negative number :P |
| 22:36.26 | batrick | no |
| 22:36.28 | Shirik | oh wait, its an integer |
| 22:36.28 | Shirik | bah |
| 22:36.33 | batrick | ~failrik |
| 22:36.34 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:36.40 | Cide | well done |
| 22:36.42 | Shirik | hey stfu, trying to write this patch is hurting my brain |
| 22:36.51 | Shirik | even though this function shouldnt take negative numbers anyway |
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| 22:36.56 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:36.56 | ArrowmasterClass | ~failrik |
| 22:36.57 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:37.02 | Esamynn | Shirik: what are you doing atm? |
| 22:37.06 | ArrowmasterClass | stop failing at puncuation |
| 22:37.19 | Shirik | I could take the short road and error when someone gives it a negative number, but instead I advocate backwards compatibility |
| 22:37.33 | Shirik | Esamynn: Writing a patch for Lua for a bug I just found |
| 22:37.40 | batrick | what did you find? |
| 22:38.11 | batrick | nevermind |
| 22:38.13 | Shirik | If you use table.insert and give it a negative position, it tries to copy every index from #t to the position, whether or not they exist. |
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| 22:39.21 | Shirik | I think I just finished it though |
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| 22:40.09 | batrick | i found a variant of that bug shirik, they didn't see it as one |
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| 22:40.25 | Shirik | they will when I show them the side effect :P |
| 22:40.33 | batrick | --> t = {1,2,3} table.insert(t, -1, 5) return tabstr(t) |
| 22:40.33 | batbot | batrick: > { [2] = 1, [3] = 2, [4] = 3, [-1] = 5 } |
| 22:40.53 | batrick | they don't see that as a bug |
| 22:41.57 | AbsoRayne | Well then, back to Attempting to find Raid Frames that I actually like for my new UI. :/ |
| 22:42.40 | batrick | anyways bbl |
| 22:43.12 | zenzelezz | for crying out loud, I keep having to talk people into accepting gold when I'm wanting to get rid of it |
| 22:44.24 | Lopeppeppy | Come to AD, big boy, I'll take some. :P |
| 22:44.41 | zenzelezz | can't go EU->US :-/ |
| 22:45.00 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. *hug* Thanks just the same anyway, farming for my mount gives me a stress release. |
| 22:46.21 | zenzelezz | people keep telling me to get epic flying |
| 22:46.38 | Lopeppeppy | Yes dear, you should. |
| 22:48.08 | NightHawkTheSane | feh, epic flying is overrated, you really have no chance to relax and take in the scenery. |
| 22:48.19 | NightHawkTheSane | where are you going that you need to be there so fast anyway! enjoy the trip! |
| 22:48.20 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 22:48.41 | Lopeppeppy | To pick up takeout chinese? |
| 22:48.45 | zenzelezz | I'll only ever get epic flying skill if I need it to get some super new riding skill (like with epic riding for flying) |
| 22:48.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: pfft. delivery chinese! |
| 22:49.26 | Lopeppeppy | I need something for dinner, cheese sandwiches aren't cutting it. |
| 22:49.54 | Lunessa | ... freezer food? |
| 22:50.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: pfft. delivery chinese! |
| 22:50.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 22:50.36 | Lopeppeppy | That presupposes the freezer ain't empty, Lunessa. |
| 22:50.51 | Lunessa | ... Sounds like my house. |
| 22:51.21 | Tuller | ok so crazy idea: |
| 22:51.33 | Tuller | and I do mean crazy maybe |
| 22:51.41 | Tuller | so, trash the current bongos3 layout stuff |
| 22:51.51 | Tuller | and replace it with a palate of all 120 buttons |
| 22:52.00 | Tuller | you create a layout, then save it as whatever, |
| 22:52.11 | Tuller | with the ability to create as many layouts as you want, repeating buttons whenever |
| 22:52.24 | Tuller | then, you have a stance panel |
| 22:52.24 | Lunessa | ... not crazy, sexy! |
| 22:52.26 | Tuller | where you say |
| 22:52.31 | Tuller | "use this layout when in bear form" |
| 22:52.42 | dylanm | That sounds unwieldy. |
| 22:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah.... pretty much, Lunessa. TKFT done took all the freezer goods, but I have cheeeeze! |
| 22:52.56 | Lunessa | get some ham and sourdough. |
| 22:53.02 | kergoth | that sounds confusing |
| 22:53.05 | kergoth | a new user would go bonkers |
| 22:53.13 | zenzelezz | I find it funny... throughout my two long-time raiding guilds and the intermediate period between them, there's really only been one guy pushing me on, keeping my spirits high enough; and he wasn't in either of them. And it took me 20 minutes to convince him to accept a bunch of gold I'll never need again |
| 22:53.20 | NightHawkTheSane | kergoth: agreed. |
| 22:53.27 | dylanm | Doesn't it seem like people like being taken away from the reality of action buttons as much as possible? |
| 22:53.35 | dylanm | Now, stances are something to think about. |
| 22:53.39 | globalduck1313 | Meta hud with Phaytals textures added :-) |
| 22:53.39 | Lopeppeppy | That's because he's a cheerleader, zenzelezz... Do I take it you're giving away your stuff for a reason? |
| 22:53.44 | globalduck1313 | http://www.noxinvictus.net/index.php?topic=192.new#new |
| 22:54.15 | AbsoRayne | <3 ACP |
| 22:54.55 | globalduck1313 | might help if was set to guest |
| 22:55.37 | Tuller | I think it sounds really confusing, and yet at the same time, works well :P |
| 22:56.12 | dylanm | It sounds like you're trying to give as much of the template power to the user. I guess that's cool :) |
| 22:57.01 | Tuller | well, I think it makes more sense conceptually to think, "i have this arrangement in bear form, versus this in cat" |
| 22:57.07 | dylanm | Oh definitely. |
| 22:57.18 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: obviously. Personal disagreements with my guild on some issues that I can't resolve, and while they don't have a problem with it, I do. Raiding with them just feels like a chore, so I'm stopping. All alternative guilds have too many raid days or are too far advanced |
| 22:57.44 | Tuller | it might be that this system would be better done without action buttons :P |
| 22:58.04 | Lunessa | Tuller - I would very much like to try a set up like that. |
| 22:58.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, I just emptied the AH out of Purple Lotus |
| 22:58.18 | Lunessa | Especially if it handled profiles for characters very well. |
| 22:58.22 | ScytheBlade1 | In return, I'll make 67 http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9197 |
| 22:58.38 | dylanm | I don't play a stance-intensive class so the way Bongos allows me to quickly slap on some bars and be done with it is fine for me. |
| 22:58.42 | dylanm | But I know you have a drood. |
| 22:59.00 | Tuller | dylanm: this would allow you to do that if I'm thinking clearly |
| 22:59.11 | Tuller | dylanm: you'd just have one layout for the non stance intensive class |
| 22:59.15 | globalduck1313 | i love the way bongos3 lets u set up bars by clicking and draggin now tho |
| 22:59.20 | dylanm | Having a 120-button palette sounds insane. |
| 22:59.44 | Kirov | I remember when Flexbar users were complaining there were only 120 |
| 22:59.49 | Kirov | :) |
| 23:00.11 | dylanm | Yeah there's the thing if you're pushing TOTALLY DIFFERENT SETUPS IN ALL FORMS you're going to get whining about the AB limit. |
| 23:00.11 | Tuller | dylanm: I'm trying to actually resolve how to let people reuse action ids :P |
| 23:00.29 | dylanm | Tuller: Like, sharing them between stances so you use as little as possible? |
| 23:00.32 | dylanm | That's definitely clever. |
| 23:00.36 | Tuller | dylanm: yeah |
| 23:00.46 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz. *biggest hugs* Don't give up, sweetheart. I wish I were EU so I could draft you into something fun and clever, but I'm stuck all Stateside. |
| 23:00.52 | Tuller | hence why you'd be able to select a group from the palate, then drag it on the screen in the idea |
| 23:01.36 | Tuller | the real question is how much buttons differ between states for everyone |
| 23:01.37 | Industrial | wwee |
| 23:01.40 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: nah, I've seen it coming for some time. It's just how things go |
| 23:01.41 | Tuller | I know, I only really change one bar :P |
| 23:01.49 | Industrial | tuesedaaes industrial uies drunk industrial |
| 23:02.12 | Industrial | like im .. nor walking straight lol |
| 23:02.37 | Industrial | it tookme `0mins o srtart xp |
| 23:02.38 | Industrial | er irc |
| 23:02.43 | Industrial | 10 mins* |
| 23:03.10 | Industrial | DONT oops cas[p dont log this lol |
| 23:03.39 | dylanm | What will the community think |
| 23:05.41 | Industrial | whatever jack daniesl ruelz |
| 23:05.50 | Lunessa | Ok.. I can finally go home. |
| 23:05.54 | Lunessa | See you all tomorrow. |
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| 23:07.21 | Josh_Borke | having fun indie? |
| 23:07.26 | Industrial | yesa |
| 23:07.38 | Industrial | 9~;dâµ |
| 23:07.38 | Josh_Borke | good :-) |
| 23:07.39 | Industrial | :D |
| 23:08.06 | Industrial | go life weewt |
| 23:08.22 | Industrial | ok i should go to bed befre I put myself to more shame |
| 23:08.23 | Industrial | ffs |
| 23:08.27 | Industrial | nn |
| 23:08.37 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I just meant that there's lots of ways to have fun, don't give up overall. |
| 23:08.37 | dylanm | Indy |
| 23:08.39 | dylanm | Post somewhere |
| 23:08.43 | Industrial | no |
| 23:08.44 | Industrial | lol |
| 23:09.06 | dylanm | Make permanent monuments to your current state. |
| 23:09.32 | AbsoRayne | Is there any way to make grids Range Checker not lag so hard? |
| 23:09.59 | AbsoRayne | Even with the chekcing frequency set to highest, it still gives me a little lag spike every time it updates. :/ |
| 23:10.01 | Cide | yeah |
| 23:10.03 | Cide | disabling it |
| 23:10.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:10.15 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:10.19 | Shirik | highest frequency? |
| 23:10.20 | Cide | uhh, if you increase the frequency of the updates |
| 23:10.23 | Shirik | Wouldnt that be worse? |
| 23:10.24 | Cide | it'll run more often |
| 23:10.28 | pastamancer | if you're checking only one range, that's as fast as it goes |
| 23:11.05 | AbsoRayne | I think the 100 yard range module is the killer actually... |
| 23:11.14 | Shirik | why? |
| 23:11.30 | Tuller | ouch, just had a problem with the system idea :P |
| 23:11.32 | AbsoRayne | NM still being jumpy |
| 23:11.41 | Tuller | I cannot use the statebinding mechanism, since its broken :P |
| 23:12.06 | pastamancer | AbsoRayne: disable all but one of the ranges |
| 23:12.16 | AbsoRayne | If you set the Range Checking frequency to 5 (seconds), every 5 seconds you get a little lag jump. If you set it to .1, it does it ever .1 second! |
| 23:12.22 | dylanm | Well that's no good, no. |
| 23:12.33 | AbsoRayne | every* |
| 23:12.35 | dylanm | I'm surreee it will be fixed in 2.4.2 which is the patch of dreams. |
| 23:12.52 | pastamancer | did you expect it to work differently? |
| 23:13.06 | Tuller | dylanm: sarcasm? :P |
| 23:13.12 | Cide | AbsoRayne: right |
| 23:13.16 | NightHawkTheSane | dylanm: is that like the field of dreams? |
| 23:13.26 | Cide | AbsoRayne: but lowering the time between updates increases the frequency |
| 23:13.37 | dylanm | Yeah. I'm a little angry that one of my spells just does not work. |
| 23:13.37 | AbsoRayne | NightHawkTheSane: Probably not, because its not full of dead baseball players |
| 23:13.49 | Cide | frequency is expressed in Hz, times/sec |
| 23:13.58 | NightHawkTheSane | AbsoRayne: fuck that. I want my wow updates filled with dead baseball players. |
| 23:13.59 | dylanm | And you know... I know Touch of Weakness is not a big deal. |
| 23:14.40 | AbsoRayne | Cide: Either way, its still giving me a skip, which bothers me, cause im picky like that. |
| 23:14.48 | Cide | so disable it |
| 23:14.50 | dylanm | How do you know that the players are dead |
| 23:14.56 | dylanm | The event never fires |
| 23:15.15 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 23:15.53 | AbsoRayne | Cide: Im also trying to build this more healer oriented, so having range indication is something I actually need to have for once. :/ |
| 23:15.58 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: I just gave zenzelezz a hug on your behalf in aldor bank. |
| 23:16.03 | Cide | not if you don't suck |
| 23:16.18 | Cide | just use 40yds then |
| 23:16.19 | Legorol | we happen to be on the same realm |
| 23:16.34 | AbsoRayne | Cide: It comes with 10,25,28,100 |
| 23:16.53 | Kirov | how do you do your range checks? |
| 23:16.56 | Tuller | I wonder if I could use escape sequences for keybinding and bypass the issue... |
| 23:16.59 | Cide | why not use the API that came with 2.4 or whatever? |
| 23:18.01 | Legorol | Cide: you probably heard this complaint before, but CTRA taints the unitpopup when right-clicking names in the default UI's raid tab (i don't mean unitframes) |
| 23:18.08 | Legorol | so that the Main Tank/Main Assist options are nukered |
| 23:18.19 | Legorol | is this a known issue/todo/don't care category? |
| 23:18.22 | Cide | do people still use CTRA? |
| 23:18.25 | Cide | amazing |
| 23:18.30 | Kirov | heh |
| 23:18.48 | Kirov | I'm using sRaidFrames and oRA2 at this point. |
| 23:18.51 | kd3 | meh, all I use it for is /rainvite & /rakw |
| 23:19.00 | Kirov | but oRA2 has it's own set if weirdness |
| 23:19.50 | Legorol | Cide: beleive it or not, about the only thing i use it for is /radur |
| 23:19.53 | Legorol | but for that, it's awesome |
| 23:20.10 | Legorol | in any given 25-man raid, you can bet there's at least one person who forgot to repair before coming |
| 23:20.31 | Kirov | I use CT_UnitFrames, even with the terrible taint issues. |
| 23:20.41 | zenzelezz | and if not, there's someone who'll die on every trash wave in MH |
| 23:20.53 | Legorol | at least then they have an excuse |
| 23:21.19 | AbsoRayne | Maybe if I set the Priority lower... |
| 23:24.54 | pastamancer | AbsoRayne: priority is used when multiple statuses on the same indicator are active, it has nothing to do with cpu usage |
| 23:30.53 | Lopeppeppy | Legorol: Not nice to kick zenzelezz! |
| 23:32.07 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 23:34.22 | sag_ich_nicht | http://techreport.com/articles.x/14500/21 <--creative is dead meat now |
| 23:36.23 | AbsoRayne | ok, it doesnt lag as bad in AB, maybe its because grid doesnt like 40 mans? O_o |
| 23:37.20 | pastamancer | AbsoRayne: well, it has to check every unit in the raid and 40 > 15, so it'll take more than twice as long to range check everyone in AV |
| 23:37.41 | AbsoRayne | Guess ill find out tonight in SSC. |
| 23:39.49 | Kirov | sag_ich_nicht - nice |
| 23:45.35 | sylvanaar | i mentioned this in #wowace, but i'll ask here too |
| 23:45.40 | sylvanaar | i have a question about Lua and the the memory use reported by bliz...posted here: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12676.0 |
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