IRC log for #wowi-lounge on 20070825

00:00.10dre^haha
00:04.16Shirikgreat
00:04.22Shirikforum drama in the trade channel now
00:04.26Shirikand we're a low pop server
00:04.30Shirikthat's pretty bad
00:04.49|Jelly|zomg
00:06.18Corrodiashwy
00:06.19Corrodiashey hey
00:06.22Shirikhey
00:06.28Corrodiashow can you find out when a server was opened? like, how old it is?
00:06.30Corrodias*realm
00:07.36JoshBork2ok back
00:07.38JoshBork2was on phone
00:07.51JoshBork2any way, i'm not sure what i would call it
00:08.20JoshBork2and it currently seems to only be for libraries which register a callback, wouldn't other libraries want to know when libraries are loaded that don't have a callback?
00:11.24JoshBorkeif that statement made any sense
00:12.14pastamancerwill the real joshborke please stand up?!
00:12.21JoshBorkethat'd be me sir
00:12.38JoshBorkeit's true because i know you still haven't put CastComm as an actual download on wowi
00:12.45JoshBorkelazy bastard
00:13.13pastamancerI think I talked them out of the callback being in the libstub because you can do something like this: http://pastey.net/72704
00:14.06JoshBorkei'm confused
00:14.10JoshB0rkeme too
00:14.42pastamancerwell, libraries are going to load with an addon, so watch for ADDON_LOADED and then check for library existance
00:14.44Shriiksame here
00:15.01JoshBorkeoh, right
00:15.07JoshBorkegj :)
00:15.18JoshB0rkedamn you bleeter
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00:16.07bleeterJoshB0rke: nothing a /whois won't clarify anyways! :P
00:16.20JoshB0rkebleh, be a man
00:16.22JoshB0rkeuse the real nick
00:17.00JoshBrokethis isn't confusing at all
00:18.25Shad0wednone whatsoever
00:18.35Shad0wedso LibStub is losing FinalizeLibrary?
00:18.48Mr_Rabies2unf
00:18.58Mr_Rabies23044 ap
00:19.04Mr_Rabies2(raid buffed)
00:19.10Shirik|AFK=(
00:19.16Shirik|AFK!char us drenden kimina
00:19.30Shirik|AFKdamn you ThraeBot you fail me again
00:19.35|Jelly|ownt
00:20.03pastamancerI don't think it's needed, but it's still under discussion
00:20.17ThraeBotShirik|AFK: Armory probably timed out (after 60s). Try again in a couple of minutes to an hour.
00:20.18Shirik|AFK~lart ThraeBot
00:20.18purlsteals ThraeBot's mojo
00:20.38Shirik|AFKheh, that worked better than I expected
00:20.54Corrodiasso
00:21.02Corrodiashow do i find out how old a realm is?
00:21.18Shirik|AFKask the night elves
00:21.23Shirik|AFKthey'll have been there the longest
00:21.50Corrodiasah, i think warcraftrealms.com tells me
00:22.02Shirik|AFKwe use warcraftrealms for our guild apps :)
00:22.24Corrodiasso my realm was apparently one of the second batch opened after two months of operation
00:22.39pastamancerrelease server ftw
00:23.31Corrodiasmy account was created November 6, 2005 7:29 PM PST
00:24.10Corrodiasand i joined my current guild in December, a bit over a month later
00:25.14|Jelly|First SeenApr 18, 05 @ Level 59. <3 WarcraftRealms
00:25.15|Jelly|lol
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00:26.33Shirik|AFKer
00:26.36Shirik|AFKdamn it
00:26.40Shirik|AFKstop that!
00:26.41Corrodiasthe alliance:horde activity ratio on our realm is only 1.7:1
00:26.53Corrodiasonly! yay!
00:27.05zenzelezzbased on the data they have at least
00:27.28Corrodiasindeed
00:27.39pastamanceryou're lucky
00:28.34pastamancerat level 70 on my server it's 2.7:1 A:H
00:29.43Corrodiaslevel 70, let's see...
00:31.53Corrodias1.8 ratio of population, 1.7 for activity it says
00:32.26Corrodiashm, 14% are warriors, which seems odd. i didn't think warrior was so appealing.
00:32.33Shad0wedman i'm dumb
00:33.25Corrodiasinteresting. my guild is third on the list for "level value", whatever that means
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00:37.52Shirik|AFKoooh interesting
00:38.04Shirik|AFKif I set __index then I can supply a value for a nil index
00:39.22Shirik|AFKNow the question is if someone would get mad at me for doing such a thing :P
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00:47.25KirkburnMan, WarcraftRealms doesn't have trustworthy data
00:47.44KirkburnIt can give you a general idea, but it exaggerates the populations
00:47.57Kirkburnratios, at least
00:49.18Kirkburn(if it was as unbalances as it shows, PvP queues on the horde side would be non-existent)
00:49.25Corrodiasi don't doubt it. it depends on players to run scans
00:49.30Corrodiasand upload the data which is a mild pain
00:50.04KirkburnIs Census still in Cosmos?
00:50.46Corrodiasno clue
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00:54.56AnduinLotharlol BioShock Installs a Rootkit
00:56.53bleeterzomg, I've had a reply labelled as an 'epic' in a forum... my first epic post woot! (not that I put much stock in such observations.. but my epeen seems to appreciate it)
00:57.05bleeterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272317342&postId=12718629084&sid=1
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00:58.03bleeterAnduinLothar: It uses that SecureRom stuff, I think. So I'm not suprised that it also has rootkit stuff (yes, the two things are prolly not related, but hearing 'bout the ROM made me wonder what else they'd be up to under the hood)
00:58.21Kaydeethreesecurom is a rootkit by default
00:58.59bleeterKaydeethree: ah, well there ya go :)
00:59.53AnduinLotharlolz the demo uses securom
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01:02.18Shirikso...
01:02.23ShirikSecureRom is..?
01:02.31Shirikan anti-hack tool?
01:02.32Nargiddleycopy protection
01:02.34Shirikah
01:03.00Kaydeethreefrom the makers of the rootkit-enabled audio CDs...
01:03.20Shirikrofl
01:03.30Arrowmastersecurerom is really made by the same company that made those?
01:03.36Kaydeethreesony
01:03.41Shiriksony ftw
01:03.50Arrowmastersony didnt make the rootkits on those cds
01:03.55Arrowmasterother companys did
01:04.06Arrowmastersony just used them
01:04.12Shirikeh, well sony got the blame
01:04.17Shirikand I already didn't like sony
01:04.21Shirikso I'll follow the bandwagon
01:04.29Shirik:D
01:04.40Arrowmasterwell it was their responsibility for using the defective copy protection software
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01:07.43Shirikheh, I love SciTE's Lua documentation
01:08.12ShirikThis one in particular:
01:09.49Shirikhttp://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9175/lolfunctionoc7.jpg
01:10.11ShirikI especially like how it capitalized Function for me while I was typing that >.>
01:11.05ckknightlol
01:11.18CidanShirik, that was fast?
01:11.24CidanRather, that was fast.
01:11.37ShirikCidan: 7 hours is definitely not fast
01:11.47ShirikI was stuck in traffic for the first half
01:11.48Shirikand it sucked
01:11.56Shirikand two people almost ran into me from behind
01:16.43Cidan:(
01:16.43Cidanalso
01:16.53Cidan[12:27] *** Shirik quit ("Alone on the road. 13 hours over two days. Surrounded by nothing but radar guns and speed traps. Will he survive? Welcome to )
01:17.02Cidanit cut off!
01:17.16Shirikthe new TV reality series, "Shirik's World"
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01:22.41Shirikso on the road
01:22.43ShirikI got so many cool ideas
01:22.52Shirikthey're going to be fun to implement
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01:34.47Mr_Rabies2man
01:34.51Mr_Rabies2if i were a mage after raids i'd open portals to darnassus then port out
01:35.25KaydeethreeI play portal roulette
01:35.37Kaydeethreeexodar, then darnassus, then shattrath
01:35.45Mr_Rabies2oo
01:35.47Mr_Rabies2exo
01:35.55Mr_Rabies2because no one knows how to get out of it
01:35.55Chaotic_Dcan you put a string variable in string.match? like    string1.match(string2.."more string %d")
01:38.10Chaotic_Ddarnit. I should have written down how to use the bot to test Lua commands.
01:38.53ShirikChaotic_D: Uh... no reason why you can't
01:38.59Shirikstring.match doesn't even know
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01:39.49Chaotic_Dok. it made sense to me, but I wasn't familiar enough to know.
01:39.49foxlit"string1.match"?
01:40.02Shiriktypo I assume
01:40.14foxlit(string2 ?
01:40.18Chaotic_Dcan't have variable names like string1 ?
01:40.22Shirikum
01:40.23foxlitNah, looks intentional :)
01:40.27Shirikstring1:match
01:40.28Shirikthen
01:40.36foxlitThen you can't do that :)
01:40.46Shirikyou can do string1:match(pattern)
01:41.16Chaotic_Dah. right. I was mixing it up.
01:41.35foxlitwhich is roughly equivalent to string.match(string1, pattern)
01:42.28Chaotic_Dthanks
01:42.48Lejwhat's the escape character in XML, like if I want to have a string ">"
01:42.56Shirik%gt;
01:42.58Shiriker
01:43.00Shirik&gt;
01:43.01Shirik?
01:43.38foxlit&gt;
01:43.50Lejah ok
01:43.54foxlitI wonder
01:43.56Lejthanks
01:44.11foxlit<OnLoad> if (2 &gt; 1) then message("Wow!"); end </OnLoad>
01:44.12Shirikyou can also do <!CDATA[[>]]>
01:44.15Shirikbut that's really annoying
01:44.26dre^here's an html special character escaper you can use: http://www.dreness.com/bits/tech/codestrip.html
01:45.31dre^I think the proper name is "url encoding"
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01:46.08Lejyes
01:46.55Lejescape character is something different, but whatever works!
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01:49.28Wobinif 2>1 ?
01:51.48ShirikLej: XML has no escape character
01:51.50Shirikperiod
01:51.56Shirikit has the escape sequence <!CDATA[[
01:52.05Shirikbut that's a pain in the neck for something as simple as &gt;
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01:55.29Cidanbah, it's so hard finding a good PvP server
01:55.34ShirikDrenden
01:56.01CidanTHAT IS NOT PVP
01:56.03CidanKTHX
01:56.06Shirikit is if you type /pv
01:56.08Shiriker, /pvp
01:56.10Cidanno, lame
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01:57.34Chaotic_Doh yeah. I broke it big time. wow. never seen errors displayed that way before.
01:58.13Cidanlol?
01:58.23Cairennthere are some really really odd games out there
01:59.14Shirik?
01:59.46CidanCairenn, has LotRO gotten better since release?
01:59.50CairennI'm helping slouken out with the SDL site, currently going through all the linked games checking that they're still valid, etc
01:59.55Shirikshe liked it /since/ release
01:59.58CairennCidan: I'm enjoying it
02:00.36Cairenngot a kick out of one link just now - original description: "Deep Wars - retro arcade action at its best" - now goes to a porn site
02:00.44Cidanrofl?
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02:03.16Cairennhahaha, now I'd REALLY be amused if that one didn't work any more .... "Maintained by: Sam Lantinga (slouken@libsdl.org)"
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02:04.32Cairennokay, sorry, I'll shut up again
02:04.35Cidanlol
02:07.58Cidansigh
02:08.02Cidanwhy does Eredar have to suck.
02:08.20CidanEveryone I liked either doesn't play anymore or transfered off
02:08.33WobinPerhaps it's a sign
02:08.42Wobin"End of the world is nigh"
02:08.45Wobin"Eat at Joes"
02:08.58Cairenn"You suck and we only just pretended to like you"
02:09.11Cidan"Left at Albuquerque"
02:09.27Wobin"Land rights for gay whales"
02:09.54Cairennoh, sorry, that one was directed at myself
02:10.19CidanCairenn, I had no idea you were a gay whale.
02:11.31cogwheelCairenn|afk is about as far from a whale as you can get...
02:11.41WobinO.O
02:11.47cogwheelcan't vouch for the gay part though ....... ;)
02:11.50Cidanthis I know, :P
02:11.51Wobini'm getting stuck at the 'Downloading' prompt at login =\
02:11.54Chaotic_Dgah. quest:match("%(Part %d%)") is giving me (Part 1) instead of 1
02:12.12Wobincogwheel: What, in the middle of Australia?
02:12.25WobinThat's pretty far away from a whale
02:12.44Chaotic_DI thought it was only supposed to find the %d
02:12.51Chaotic_Der, return %d
02:12.52cogwheelwouldn't the middle of russia be farther?
02:13.09WobinYou can never tell with those sneaky whales
02:13.18Rallionmongolia's not near any whales.
02:13.23WobinOne minute, you're in the middle of sibera
02:13.29WobinThe next you're hit by a potted petunia
02:14.09RallionI find bioshock to be incredibly exhausting to play
02:14.18WobinRallion: too much twitch?
02:14.34CidanShirik, you horde on Drenden?
02:14.38Shirikyes
02:14.40Shiriksec, in mag
02:14.45Cidanfail.
02:14.51Shirik(on eredar)
02:15.31Wobinargh!
02:15.43WobinWhy do I freeze up on the downloading bit =(
02:15.51WobinThis is stupid =(
02:15.57WobinWhat have you changed, Blizzard?
02:16.52IrielRallion: Yes, it's stressful, but very rewarding in as far as a cool story and lovely visuals
02:17.06WobinI love the setting
02:17.10Wobinmore games should be set in that time
02:17.24ckknightChaotic_D: quest:match("%(Part (%d+)%)")
02:17.55Chaotic_Dhow do I use cladbot again?
02:17.59Wobinlua>
02:18.33Chaotic_Dhow do I print results?
02:18.44WobinPrntScrn
02:18.53Wobin^^
02:18.56Chaotic_Dno, how does cladbot show me results.
02:19.05Cidanlua> print(1+1);
02:19.05cladbotCidan: 2
02:19.18Chaotic_Dstrange. I tried lua> print("help") and it didn't.
02:19.28Wobinlua> print("help")
02:19.28cladbotWobin: help
02:19.59Chaotic_Dmaybe it's because the first PM I sent him wasn't lua, so he put me on ignore.
02:20.19Chaotic_Dlua> print("help")
02:20.19cladbotChaotic_D: help
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02:22.11Chaotic_Doh, I see. I had %d and I needed (%d+)
02:23.03Chaotic_Dah well. time for a cool shower. damn I hate hot weather. back to coding afterwards. ;;-_-;; (lots of sweat??)
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02:29.17Wobinanyone having issues logging in with wine?
02:29.45Wobinrrraargh
02:29.46Kaydeethreelog in once using directx
02:29.57Kaydeethreethen you can go back to using opengl
02:30.40Wobinoh thank god =P
02:30.47Wobin...now the question is ... why? =P
02:31.40WobinThank you Kaydeethree =)
02:45.43bleeterWobin: hardware survey thing, tripped up a bug in Wine
02:46.13bleeterWobin: for the record, I think there's even a blue post kinda admitting a mistake with the code and some vague suggestion they may fix that code up so it don't do it again ;)
02:49.22Cairenncogwheel:
02:49.42cogwheeli know :P
02:50.26bleeterCairenn: oO you're... female?!
02:50.36cogwheel~botslap bleeter
02:51.16Cairennyup
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03:20.14Wobinbleeter: I'm just glad there was an easy fix to it =)
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03:31.51Chaotic_Dan easy fix to being female?
03:33.53Cairennrazor blade works well
03:36.47Cairennnight clad|sleep
03:37.01clad|sleepnight
03:41.15Chaotic_D... man. this is bizzarre... how did I get cartographer waypoints when I disabled them? @_@;
03:42.00Chaotic_Doh I see.
03:42.53clad|sleeplol my state's comptroller just said "Pleasure be with you" to start an interview.
03:43.04clad|sleepChaotic_D: iterator functions aren't beasts.. they're just.. iterator functions.
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03:45.12Chaotic_Dgod damn I hate summer so much. I'm in a BASEMENT and it's 77F. I got the window open, the fan blowing in, it's supposed to be no more than 75F outside. the temperature just DOESN'T DROP in this room.
03:46.07Chaotic_DI can't sleep in a room that's 77F
03:46.38Chaotic_DIt's not supposed to be this hot in a basement.
03:47.35Cairennthat's only 25 .... what on earth are you bitching about?
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03:48.29Chaotic_DI'm bitching because heat makes me sluggish, braindead, cranky, and I don't sleep.
03:48.41Cairennokay
03:48.56Chaotic_Dand I used to live in a basement where it was cool.
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03:49.28Chaotic_Dthat's you. not me. I love it cold.
03:49.37Cairenn*nod*
03:50.41Chaotic_Dneed air conditioning.
03:51.13Shirikooh did I miss drama?
03:51.34Cairenndon't think so
03:51.41Shirikoh
03:51.59Chaotic_D"Me love Kup's war stories!" "You're living one!"
03:53.08Chaotic_DI have a feeling that fans actually work against you when you're hot.
03:53.48Chaotic_Dbecause right now I feel chilly. but I know I'm not cold. I think my body's going to stop giving off heat, and then burn up. I end up with a fever if I sleep with the fan blowing on me on a hot night.
03:55.21Shiriklua> foo = nil; return foo and foo[4];
03:55.21cladbotShirik: nil
03:57.03Shiriklua> foo = {bar = 4}; return foo and foo[bar]
03:57.04cladbotShirik: nil
03:57.11Shirikoops
03:57.14Shiriklua> foo = {bar = 4}; return foo and foo["bar"]
03:57.14cladbotShirik: 4
03:57.24ShirikI should know this stuff off the top of my head I don't know why I'm testing it :/
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04:03.43Chaotic_Dwooo. I think I finally got quest parts done.
04:04.33Chaotic_Dwell, I mean... most of it's code you people gave me. :S but I tried.
04:21.20Cidanfound a new-ish pvp server to play on
04:21.26Cidanmay even transfer Cidan over one day
04:22.35Shirik~lart Cidan
04:22.35purlsqueezes Cidan till Cidan turns blue like papa smurf
04:22.53art3mispapa smurf papa smurf!
04:23.15Cairennoi
04:23.38Cidankinky
04:23.41art3misHullooo i'm tigger
04:23.49art3mist-i-double g-er
04:23.54CidanDidn't know you were into choking Shirik
04:24.14art3misever since he read about michael hutchins
04:25.01Cidannight
04:25.07Cairennnight Cidan
04:27.27art3misMr.teeth, Mr.teeth, Mr.teeth.
04:27.44art3misWhat do you waannnt?
04:27.58art3miswell Mr.teeth there's this group of *pop*
04:28.06art3misaww dammit, gotta be faster
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04:31.04art3misfind the hidden message in the number 21,613
04:35.28Shirikjust for safety
04:36.04Shirikalso, art3mis
04:36.11Shirikthe question really is not what the hidden message is
04:36.39Shirikbut rather whether that number is equivalent to 21 x 10 ^ 3 + 613 or 21 + 613/1000
04:41.18art3misand how is that special?
04:41.32art3misi have no clue of the answer btw
04:41.37art3misfigured you math nerds would
04:44.08Shirikerm
04:44.12Shirikthey're both correct
04:44.18Shirikit depends who you ask
04:44.27Shirikbleeter would argue the latter
04:44.29ShirikI argue the former
04:44.43art3misbut again how is it special?
04:44.56Thunder_Childif they both equal the same numbe it...well....the same
04:45.06Thunder_Childs/it/it's/
04:45.45art3mispurl, 21+ 613/1000
04:45.46purl21.613
04:48.26art3mispurl, 21613^0.5
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04:53.02herzoghomezzzZzzz.
04:56.39ShirikI'm going to head off to bed now
04:57.01Shiriktake care
04:58.12Cairennnight Shirik|zZz
04:58.42Chaotic_Ddo I have to restart WoW if I change an addon's .toc?
04:58.54art3misyes
04:58.55Chaotic_Djust the dependancies..
04:59.00Chaotic_Dpoop. ok.
04:59.18art3mistoc and file additions need a complete relog/restart
04:59.28art3mismodifications to a file that already exists a /rl is fine
04:59.55Chaotic_DI think it's the reason why I get errors only when I first start the UI, because I didn't declare optional dependancies.
05:04.09Chaotic_Dbah! I can't get it to work! -_-;
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05:10.02Chaotic_Dwhat's the difference between Cartographer_Waypoints:AddLHWaypoint and Cartographer_Waypoints.AddLHWaypoint ?
05:11.45Chaotic_Dman, lightheaded didn't call any dependancy on cartographer even though it has cartographer code in it. :S
05:14.40Shirik|zZzChaotic_D: the former passes Cartographer_Waypoints as the first parameter
05:14.45Shirik|zZzThat is in /all/ Lua
05:14.56Shirik|zZzif you don't understand that concept I strongly recommend reviewing PiL
05:16.15Shirik|zZzlua> tbl = {}; function tbl:foo(...) print(...); end; tbl.foo(1,2,3,4,5); print(" VS "); tbl:foo(1,2,3,4,5);
05:16.24Shirik|zZz=(
05:16.31art3mishttp://www.redorbit.com/modules/imglib/download.php?Url=/modules/news/upload/5ce58c3de2d5122e374e650117c6551d.jpg
05:16.42art3mishappy 4th anniversary Spitzer Space Telescope!
05:16.49Shirik|zZzLua 5.1.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2007 Lua.org, PUC-Rio
05:16.49Shirik|zZz> tbl = {}; function tbl:foo(...) print(...); end; tbl.foo(1,2,3,4,5); print("
05:16.49Shirik|zZzVS "); tbl:foo(1,2,3,4,5);
05:16.50Shirik|zZz2 3 4 5
05:16.50Shirik|zZzVS
05:16.52Shirik|zZz1 2 3 4 5
05:16.54Shirik|zZzthere you go
05:16.56Shirik|zZzvital difference
05:17.53Shirik|zZztbl:foo(1,2,3,4,5) is equivalent to tbl.foo(tbl,1,2,3,4,5), in other words
05:18.06Chaotic_DYOU BROKE E-CYBO-POOCH TO DEATH!
05:18.23Shirik|zZzdo you understand the difference though?
05:19.20Chaotic_Dehhhh... no.
05:19.44Shirik|zZztbl.foo() and tbl:foo() both call the same function
05:20.51Shirik|zZzdo you understand that much?
05:21.15Chaotic_Dyeah.
05:21.19Shirik|zZzok, now
05:21.27Shirik|zZztbl.foo() has zero parameters, you see that right?
05:21.34Chaotic_Dyup.
05:21.43Shirik|zZztbl:foo() has one, actually, but it's hidden
05:21.49Shirik|zZzit is the same as if you had done tbl.foo(tbl)
05:23.04Chaotic_Dbut how is tbl a valid ... argument?
05:23.17Shirik|zZzit's a table
05:23.25Shirik|zZzyou can pass tables all you want
05:24.15Chaotic_Dbut I mean isn't the function expecting different arguments than a table?
05:24.23Shirik|zZzmost likely, yes
05:24.28Shirik|zZzBut that's what it does
05:24.45Shirik|zZzyou asked the difference. I have no idea what the function does, so I can't tell you which is accurate
05:24.49Shirik|zZznow.... behind the scenes
05:24.52Shirik|zZzon the flip side
05:24.57Shirik|zZzif you define a function like this:
05:25.01Shirik|zZzfunction foo:bar()
05:25.05Shirik|zZzyou're actually defining it like this:
05:25.08Shirik|zZzfunction foo.bar(self)
05:25.14Chaotic_D>_<; oh.
05:25.16Shirik|zZzIt makes that hidden first parameter named "self"
05:25.20Shirik|zZzBUT
05:25.23Shirik|zZzyou can only define it once
05:26.11Shirik|zZzso in 99% of cases, you won't be mixing the two types
05:26.28Shirik|zZzwhat's the REASON for using this syntax? "Why on earth would you need that table to be the first parameter?"
05:26.45Shirik|zZzObject oriented programming, really. http://www.wowwiki.com/Object_Oriented_Programming may make sense to you if you want to read it
05:26.50Shirik|zZzI wrote it a while back and it covers a bunch of this
05:27.43Shirik|zZzspecifically this section: http://www.wowwiki.com/Object_Oriented_Programming#Metatables
05:28.14art3misi thought . returned a condition while : returned after it completed a task?
05:28.24Shirik|zZzer
05:28.34Shirik|zZzthey're both functions, period
05:28.54Shirik|zZzIn 99% of cases, both are possible to use, though one will make more sense than the other
05:29.01Chaotic_DI still can't figure out why I get errors though. if I declared optional dependancies on cartographer AND cartographer_waypoints... :S which LightHeaded didn't even do.
05:29.07art3misso there isnt a relational adhereance to them?
05:29.10Shirik|zZzand in 100% of cases, both can accomplish the same task
05:29.13Shirik|zZzNegative
05:29.17Shirik|zZzhell, you could even do something like this
05:29.36Shirik|zZzfoo = {}; function foo:bar() end; baz = {}; foo.bar(baz);
05:29.45Shirik|zZzand it would run that function foo:bar() except self would be baz
05:29.48Shirik|zZzwhich is completely unrelated
05:30.09art3misoh i meant realtional as in . local file : global call type thing
05:30.10Shirik|zZzLua has zero object-orientation in it, however you can play with this syntax to make it emulate it
05:30.19Shirik|zZznope
05:30.30art3mishrm wonder where i got that idea from then
05:30.38Shirik|zZzthey are entirely the same. The sole difference is that the colon syntax will pass an extra parameter
05:30.43Shirik|zZz(or accept one if you're defining the function)
05:33.43Chaotic_Dit's SORTA local/global. foo:bar has foo as it's self no matter where you call it, while foo.bar has self being whatever local variable you give it.
05:33.54Chaotic_Dbut like you said, it's emulated.
05:34.11Shirik|zZznot really true
05:34.24Chaotic_Dheh
05:34.31Shirik|zZztake this code:
05:35.24Shirik|zZzfunction foo:bar() assert(self == foo); end; baz = setmetatable({}, {__index = foo}); print(baz.bar); --[[ So the function does exist]]; baz:bar();
05:35.28Shirik|zZzAssertion will fail because self is not foo
05:35.35Shirik|zZzhowever, baz is a "foo"
05:35.45Shirik|zZzs/a "foo"/"a" foo/
05:36.28Shirik|zZzand this is exactly why this exists
05:36.39Shirik|zZzbecause self will not always be foo, but it should be similar
05:36.54Shirik|zZzthis allows some really fun stuff to happen, though
05:37.15Chaotic_Dlesbian ninjas?
05:37.23Shirik|zZzif you so desire
05:37.39Shirik|zZzBut really, I can't give this subject justice
05:37.43Shirik|zZzit is extremely vast on its own
05:37.49Shirik|zZzYou're best off reading PiL on the matter
05:38.32Chaotic_DI'm wondering if it would have taken the same amount of time to read PiL instead of slogging through mysterious code... :S
05:38.48Shirik|zZzspecifically this part http://www.lua.org/pil/16.html
05:38.50Chaotic_DI mean I read it... but just for reference.
05:40.46Shirik|zZzin fact, that very first page will tell you exacly what I just tried to explain to you
05:40.53Shirik|zZznow that I, myself, have read it
05:41.07Shirik|zZz"The effect of the colon is to add an extra hidden parameter in a method definition and to add an extra argument in a method call. The colon is only a syntactic facility, although a convenient one; there is nothing really new here. We can define a function with the dot syntax and call it with the colon syntax, or vice-versa, as long as we handle the extra parameter correctly:"
05:41.40art3mishttp://www.adultswim.com/games/orphanfeast/index.html
05:41.56Shirik|zZzAnd on that note, before Cairenn kills me (again), I will head to sleep
05:42.16Shirik|zZzif you have questions I should be able to answer them tomorrow, but just about everyone in this channel knows this facility because it is very widely used
05:42.31Chaotic_Dgoodnight. thanks
05:44.15Corrodiasi've been thinking about skipping the rest of the booty bay quests on my priest so that in the far future, he can begin the bloodsail grind
05:45.30Corrodiascould slow down my progression for a couple of levels
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06:31.11sag_ich_nichtoh right
06:31.16sag_ich_nichtbleeter you there?
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07:34.39bl4qgood morning everyone :)
07:35.31Cairennhi
07:36.06bl4qcould anyone please tell me where to get information about how to display images in wow?
07:38.26bl4qfor example to replace the standart grafics at the castbars
07:38.39bl4q*graphics
07:39.35Cairennunfortunately, as you can tell, most folks aren't actually here atm
07:39.44Thunder_Childyou could browse the code of an addon that does that already
07:39.52Cairennalthough there are some
07:40.07Thunder_Childshouldnt you be asleep?
07:40.09Cairennwhat are you doing up so late?
07:40.10Cairennlol
07:40.23Cairennyes, yes I should, but my sleep is all messed up after last night
07:40.38Thunder_Childnaughty
07:40.59bl4qThunder_Child: I tried to do that allready but I didn't success because most of the addons are using other stuff like ace that's still confusing me :/
07:41.24Cairennnot naughty at all, damn thunder storm knocked power out repeatedly, had to stay up to make sure we were up at 9
07:41.44Thunder_ChildCairenn, time to buy a battery powered clock
07:41.46Cairennso ended up sleeping off and on most of the day
07:42.00Cairennyeah, need to replace the backup batteries
07:42.00Thunder_Childbl4q, let me see if i can find one
07:42.08Thunder_Childsince i am not a coder
07:42.52bl4qhehe - thank you,  I'm allready searching @google too :)
07:43.44bl4qCairenn where are you from and what time is it at you?
07:44.02CairennOntario, Canada - almost 4am
07:44.13bl4qouch :P
07:44.24Cairennyeah, finally getting sleepy
07:44.30bl4qI'm from germany - it's 9:44 am :)
07:44.49bl4qI'm just awake since a few hours
07:45.53Cairenngive it a few more hours and more will be awake/not at work in channel
07:46.39Cairennbut for me, I really should head out, see if I can start getting my sleep schedule back to something a little more normal
07:47.13bl4qhehe that's what I'll have to do unfortunately anyway ;)
07:47.40bl4qgn8 and thanks
07:48.53Thunder_Childhmm...i am looking at violation atm and it seems to be using SetTexture
07:49.07Thunder_Childe.g. "SetTexture("Interface\\AddOns\\Violation\\textures\\prev")"
07:49.59bl4qthankyou - I hope this'll help me
07:50.24Thunder_Childnp...doesnt feel right though..gonna keep loking
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07:51.05bl4qok now I'd like to have a 3rd monitor %)
07:51.38bl4qone for IRC, one for my browser/editor and one for wow to try the script-code
07:54.15bl4qlooks like I normally should declare stuff like that in a xml-file
07:54.30bl4q@ Thunder_Child
07:54.51Thunder_Childdunno, where i found them were in lua files
07:55.22bl4qI found a howto about "SetTexture" on a wow addon page :)
07:55.40bl4qlooks like I should only use this one for special situations
07:55.47Thunder_Childah
07:58.58bl4qI found several howtos I think they'll resolve more than one of my lua/wow issues :)
07:59.23bl4qbut thanks - I wouldn't have found them that fast without your help
07:59.45Thunder_Childnp
08:00.51Thunder_Childbut you should still check back later when people who know what they are doing are on...they may have something that you dont find or didnt occur to you
08:01.40IndustrialCairenn|afk: no mobile phone alarms?
08:01.55Thunder_Childpfft, they wouldnt wake up a fly
08:03.10Thunder_Childhuh...acronym is an acronym, go figure
08:03.16bl4qThunder_Child: I leace this channel open like the last days
08:03.20bl4q*leave
08:06.39Corrodiasshhh...
08:06.43Corrodiasit's sleepy time.
08:06.58Thunder_Childexcept for the part were we are still up
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08:17.33bleetersag_ich_nicht: hmm?
08:18.16bleetersag_ich_nicht: soz, I did two.. or was it three.. fivemans in a row
08:18.40sag_ich_nichtbleeter could you make a post in either the UI suggestions thread in the UI forums or on the suggestions forum requesting that F13 to F24 are recognized as keys valid for keybindings in WoW? thanks D:
08:18.42bleeterfirst pull of second instance was ... weird.. I was standing there thinking 'damn mage, put the sheep down.... oh, I'm the mage now oops'
08:19.52bleetersag_ich_nicht: they're not bindable in 2.2? (I'm assuming this is some shigft-key combo thing... I don't have F13-F24 on my keybd, although it's a G15... :/ )
08:21.14sag_ich_nichtcan't access the PTR D:
08:21.25sag_ich_nichtand no, it's not a shift + key thing.
08:21.29sag_ich_nichtthese are real keys.
08:21.52sag_ich_nichtPTR forum might be good idea, too, since they change the keybindings in 2.2
08:21.57sag_ich_nicht*be a good idea
08:22.05bleeterprolly way too late for 2.2
08:22.06sag_ich_nichtthey just aren't very common
08:22.09sag_ich_nichterm
08:22.11sag_ich_nichtwtf mIRC
08:22.15sag_ich_nicht~stab mIRC
08:22.16purlACTION runs at mIRC with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
08:22.31sag_ich_nichtbleeter shouldn't be much work to implement
08:22.45sag_ich_nichtit's probably like 12 lines of code
08:22.51bleeteryeah, but I think they're in bugfixing phase of PTR, not new stuff
08:23.02sag_ich_nichti consider this a bug :P
08:23.11bleeterwould prolly wanna rebuild, retest internal etc.
08:23.23bleeterI'll post to the UI forum, let iriel and slouken biff it out ;)
08:24.24bleeterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1271997698&postId=12717833058&sid=1#0
08:24.39IrielAre they not delivered to the client at all?
08:24.44IrielOr are they just mapped to something odd
08:24.55sag_ich_nichtnope. not delivered at all i think.
08:24.56bleeterI'm realy hungry, I'll leave you two sweeties to sort out the details ;)
08:25.05bleetersoz to abandon you :)
08:25.12bleeteractually.. nah, not at all :P
08:25.24sag_ich_nichti can't test it in 2.2 because the damn EPL is somehow bugging the PTR installer
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08:26.18sag_ich_nichtthey should especially consider it since the new apple laptop keyboards have 19 function keys
08:27.03sag_ich_nicht(and i'm stating this here as a PC user)
08:27.28sag_ich_nichtbleeter: should have posted that in the request thread btw., not in a own thread, but meh :P
08:29.07zenzelezzKaspersky insists mirc621.exe is "riskware-not-a-virus" but keeps counting it as a virus o_O
08:29.32Punkie`iMac = DO WANT
08:31.08sag_ich_nichtIriel: plugging up an old terminal keyboard does provide these keys e.g., it's not part of the IBM PC keyboard specs, but it's part of the windows keyboard API specs, and this is what WoW should look at imho
08:31.24sag_ich_nichtF13 is 0x640000 for example
08:32.41IrielI'm sure slouken will either say 'fine', 'i'll do it when I can' or give a reason why it's not his problem
08:32.52sag_ich_nicht:)
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09:01.34bl4qhi
09:35.43bl4qI just noticed that the API "CastSpellByName" now is protected... is there any other "legit" way to cast a spell via an addon?
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09:49.19sag_ich_nichtbl4q: http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.1_(Release_Notes)
09:49.59sag_ich_nichthttp://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_2.0.1_(Release_Notes)#User_Interface
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10:07.22bl4qsag_ich_nicht: so it's not possible to change the hunter's aspect and mount via an addon right?
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10:18.05sag_ich_nichtbl4q it's possible, but not while in combat :P
10:18.37sag_ich_nichtand it needs an hardware event causing it
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11:56.09sag_ich_nichtEotS would be way better if the flag bridge was rotated by 90° :(
11:58.08Mr_Rabies2don't much see how
11:58.12Mr_Rabies2it's a square anyway
11:58.28Mr_Rabies2it'd just take longer probably because of the first few spawns
12:01.12Mr_Rabies2once people stop spawning at the main spawn points it wouldn't be much different
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12:06.19bleetersag_ich_nicht: yeah, I realised that as I was walking out the door :/
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12:19.13sag_ich_nichtMr_Rabies2: what you said + it would force horde/alliance clash before you get to the flag, no matter what is taken
12:19.49Mr_Rabies2i think it would probably just make it last longer :/
12:19.58sag_ich_nichtyeah. and give more honor
12:19.59sag_ich_nicht:O
12:20.14sag_ich_nichtway more fun :O
12:21.14Mr_Rabies2i'd say they  should bring the old av back, personally
12:21.16Mr_Rabies2i love old av
12:21.23Mr_Rabies2the new av is boring and basically pve with honor
12:22.05sag_ich_nichtheh
12:22.10sag_ich_nichtyou horde? :P
12:22.17Mr_Rabies2alliance
12:22.45sag_ich_nichtoO
12:22.47Mr_Rabies2they should fix the balance issues, readd the npcs (minus korrak)
12:22.53sag_ich_nichtlawl korrak
12:22.57Mr_Rabies2honor != fun
12:23.01sag_ich_nichtthere is no balance issue
12:23.03sag_ich_nichtalliance wins
12:23.07sag_ich_nichtbalanced imho
12:23.08sag_ich_nicht:D
12:23.21Mr_Rabies2the balance issues aren't as bad as they're made out to be
12:23.26Mr_Rabies2but they're still there
12:24.32Mr_Rabies2solo pulling vann, the alliance bridge, having to dismount to get to the horde base unless you're slick
12:24.37Mr_Rabies2the towers
12:24.56Mr_Rabies2but a decent amount of horde loss is because it's easier to lose because they can just requeue instantly
12:25.06Mr_Rabies2they still get more honor than alliance per hour by losing
12:25.57bleeteractually, I wish they'd give out battlegroup stats on AV
12:26.08bleetersettle the whole 'alliance/horde always win' thing once and for all
12:26.32bleeterlength of battle, times that objectives are taken
12:26.34sag_ich_nichtalliance wins always
12:26.43sag_ich_nichtnever seen a horde win in the last 3 months
12:26.43sag_ich_nichtD:
12:26.47Mr_Rabies2it's probably about 70:30 or so, simply because horde would rather lose in 5 mins than win in 4 hours
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12:27.31Mr_Rabies2instead they should focus on who gets more honor an hour
12:27.58Mr_Rabies2(it's horde by far)
12:31.37bleeterhmm, maybe the stats would prove it's unbalanced, hence they don't publish them
12:32.13Mr_Rabies2the stats wouldn't say much
12:32.16bleeterI'd still like to see a table in the armory of my win/loss BG ratio, ideally a bit like PvP log so I can look up toons that I've killed/died by lots
12:32.21Mr_Rabies2because it doesn't take into account quick losses for more honor
12:32.56Mr_Rabies2which alliance can't do on most servers
12:33.04bleeterlose quickly?
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12:33.40Mr_Rabies2it's more honor to stick it out
12:33.48Mr_Rabies2than lose quickly
12:33.50Mr_Rabies2because queue times
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12:34.19Mr_Rabies2and i realize as a collective it's a catch-22
12:35.06bleeterMr_Rabies2: yeah, that's why I'd stick in the details regarding time from start of game that objectives were capped, from that info I suspect it'd be easy to spot who was giving in
12:35.36bleeterwell, insofar as the end result is concerned... certainly individuals within the team that 'folds' wouldn't be easy to spot
12:35.51bleeterthus crossreference to a full pvplog style DB would then come into play
12:37.08bleeterI'd be surpised if there isn't a set of data like this in existence already, well maybe not down to the individual player level that folks would want from the armoury, but something that maps the 'performance' of each BG's
12:37.25bleetershoot me if I'm rambling, it's late.. just had a bit feed and feel real bloated.
12:46.07bleeterMr_Rabies2: cmon you can't say that there's at least some merit in having the stats published
12:46.32bleeterunless, of course, users will use the data to beat Blizz down with a 'zomgnerfBLAHnow' stick
12:46.55Industrialer, can I SetPoint a secure frame in combat?
12:47.45IndustrialI want to hide my actionbar in a tab a-la chatframe, so it'l hide/unhide when i click the tab (that shows on hover)
12:47.58Mr_Rabies2i'll setpoint your face with my fist
12:48.01Mr_Rabies2...in combat
12:48.19Industrialfail
12:48.31bleetersounds like total win to me :P
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12:49.02bleeterwhile industrial's worried about frames, druid pounces and mauls him. gg ;)
12:49.16bleeterwell, not those two per se.. gah, nm
12:50.40Mr_Rabies2he could pounce then go bear and maul him for some unknown reason
12:50.51Mr_Rabies2seems like a waste of that initial rage
12:50.53bleetershrooms
12:50.57Mr_Rabies2i almost never use maul anymore
12:51.11Mr_Rabies2only times i use it are wheni'm >50 rage really
12:51.15Mr_Rabies2maul eats too much
12:51.23Mr_Rabies2for so little threat
12:51.32bleeterimabearimacatimaCATBEARRAAAR!
12:51.37bleeterindustrial dead still
12:51.41Mr_Rabies2it looks cheaper than mangle but it's not because it eats your autoattack and gives you no rage
12:51.42Mr_Rabies2:X
12:53.14Mr_Rabies2atgh
12:53.15Mr_Rabies2argh
12:53.18Mr_Rabies2i have a darkrune
12:53.21Mr_Rabies2but i can't crystalforge it
12:53.25Mr_Rabies2because it's bugged
12:53.25Mr_Rabies2argh
12:54.28nevcairielyou need todo the banish the demons quest
12:54.43sag_ich_nichtheh
12:54.52sag_ich_nichtMr_Rabies2 get a swingtimer display
12:54.57sag_ich_nichtif you fear teh autoattack eat :O
12:55.11Mr_Rabies2doesn't help for maul
12:55.12nevcairielits like heroic strike, it stacks ontop of autoattack
12:55.15Mr_Rabies2it's a next attack
12:55.45sag_ich_nichtuh
12:55.49Mr_Rabies2it eatsautoattacks and gives no rage for them basically
12:55.49sag_ich_nichtit doesn't eat the auto attack then
12:55.56sag_ich_nichtit adds to autoattack o_O
12:55.59nevcairielyes
12:56.04Mr_Rabies2but it doesn't give you the rage from autoattacking
12:56.05nevcairielbut no rage generation
12:56.07Nargiddleyyou dont get rage for specials
12:56.17Mr_Rabies2and it's only a marginal amount of damage over white damage
12:56.17sag_ich_nichtmhm, that's dumb, it should give you the auto attack rage
12:56.18Mr_Rabies2like
12:56.19Mr_Rabies2100
12:56.32Mr_Rabies2so it's only useful in infinite rage situations
12:56.44Mr_Rabies2otherwise lacerate and maul
12:57.02Mr_Rabies2er
12:57.03Mr_Rabies2mangle
12:57.04Mr_Rabies2eep
12:58.08nevcairiellike tanking raid bosses, where your own generation is meaningless :P
12:58.24nevcairiel(hard hitting raid bosses, not those sissies)
12:58.36zenzelezzyour own rage generation is NEVER meaningless
12:58.49zenzelezzget a dodge/parry streak and you'll be relying on your own
12:58.52Mr_Rabies2it's extra threat, but not much
12:58.57bleetermmm thems were da spicy meatballs
12:59.00Mr_Rabies2yeah, i've had times where it's like
12:59.02Mr_Rabies2dodge
12:59.07Mr_Rabies2dodge dodge dodge miss dodge
12:59.11Mr_Rabies2and i'm like
12:59.15Mr_Rabies2damn you defennnnnse
12:59.30Mr_Rabies2(i'm over the defense cap and need to drop some)
12:59.36Mr_Rabies2i'll probably drop my trinket and get a better one
12:59.48Mr_Rabies21280 armor every 2 mins is just about useless
13:00.08zenzelezzour feral tank is still drooling over the heal trinket he recently got in SSC
13:00.11Mr_Rabies2i need moroes' pocketwatch and maybe the furies darkmoon card
13:00.42Mr_Rabies2http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31859
13:00.49Mr_Rabies2wait
13:00.50zenzelezzhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30620
13:00.51Mr_Rabies2wrong one
13:01.12Mr_Rabies2http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31858
13:01.13Mr_Rabies2there we go
13:01.52Mr_Rabies2i may get lunacy instead
13:01.53Mr_Rabies2hrm
13:02.10Mr_Rabies2vengeance is probably cheaper though
13:02.12bleeterMr_Rabies2: I think lunacy suits you better
13:02.35Mr_Rabies2i have the furies ace
13:03.23Industrialso
13:03.28IndustrialDING
13:03.29Industrial28
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13:03.56Mr_Rabies2not only do i make stuka noises while bombing questing
13:04.01Mr_Rabies2i fly like one too
13:04.08Mr_Rabies2start high up, then divebomb
13:04.14Mr_Rabies2going VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
13:05.22Mr_Rabies2or you know
13:05.26Mr_Rabies2the whiney noise they make
13:05.31Mr_Rabies2http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31858
13:05.32Mr_Rabies2eep
13:05.38Mr_Rabies2http://youtube.com/watch?v=dCXsu7yWGwo
13:05.39Mr_Rabies2that one
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13:17.49LunessaWTF are you people doing squandering a perfectly good morning for sleeping in by being awake?
13:17.57ShirikI'm not sleeping in =(
13:18.00Shirikoh
13:18.07ShirikI have an 8 hour drive today
13:18.16ShirikAnd I want to get there at some reasonable hour
13:18.40JoshBorkeShirik: ping
13:18.47Lunessa<PROTECTED>
13:18.49Shirikhi
13:18.53JoshBorkeLunessa: care to answer that yourself? :P
13:19.07JoshBorkeShirik: are you done QQ'ing
13:19.11LunessaI'm at work you heartless bastard.  Thanks for reminding me.
13:19.16Shirikare you going to make me turn that script back on?
13:19.27JoshBorkeShirik: what script?
13:19.40Lunessapong
13:20.23ShirikLunessa: Nobody pinged you!
13:20.32Shirikyou fail ICMP
13:20.38LunessaBut it's fun to say pong
13:20.50JoshBorkeShirik: do you have anything to do with LibStub?
13:20.50Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:20.50purlputs JoshBorke into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of JoshBorke's hair of
13:20.50LunessaAnd Balls of Fury opens today.
13:20.51ShirikYeah well if everyone just randomly said pong on the internet
13:21.00JoshBorke~whaleparry Shirik
13:21.01purlACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Shirik's attacks.
13:21.01Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:21.01purlsends a legion of lawyers after JoshBorke's head
13:21.07JoshBorke~lart Shirik
13:21.07purlgrabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats Shirik until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with
13:21.23Shirik092:202:54 12‹purl12› Someone already said that 6 seconds ago
13:21.24Shirik=(
13:21.24JoshBorkemethinks the script is an automagic lart whenever someone says Shirik
13:21.24Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:21.24purldoes a little 'renice 20 -u JoshBorke'
13:21.33JoshBorkewill you try saying Shirik Lunessa?
13:22.05ShirikJoshBorke: not quite
13:22.10LunessaSirik
13:22.17JoshBorkeShirik: oh, so it's only for me?
13:22.17Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:22.17purlreadies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at JoshBorke
13:22.19LunessaShirik
13:22.23JoshBorkeShirik: that's sweet
13:22.33JoshBorkeShirik: i wonder if i can get purl to ignore you
13:22.33Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:22.33purlcalls JoshBorke on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home
13:22.41Shirikpurl is already ignoring me
13:22.53JoshBorkei'm actually having fun shirik
13:22.53Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:22.53purltakes a big bite out of JoshBorke's jugular vein
13:24.12Shirikwow
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13:24.25JoshBorkeShirik: wow what?
13:24.25Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:24.25purltakes out JoshBorke with the trash
13:25.15LunessaOMG - I'm going to have to put him on /ignore.  
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13:25.56JoshBorkewho? me or shirik?
13:25.56Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:25.56purlchanges JoshBorke's permissions to 0777 and tells the world
13:26.20Shirikputting me on ignore would do nothing
13:26.25Shirikas it's purl saying everything
13:26.45Lunessayou're an evil man.  
13:26.48LunessaEVIL
13:27.13zenzelezzjust ping him a few times, his connection will crumble
13:27.20JoshBorkeLunessa: shirik is quite evil
13:27.20Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:27.20purlslams JoshBorke against a large cement Tux
13:27.37JoshBorkezenzelezz: qft
13:27.43JoshBorkeshirik and his shitty dial-up :P
13:27.43Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:27.43purlwhips out a sword and chops JoshBorke in half
13:27.47LunessaIf I'm going to ping him, it's going to be a lot more than 'a few times'.  
13:27.55JoshBorkelol
13:28.04JoshBorke<3 shirik
13:28.04Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:28.04purlputs on a hockey mask and jumps out at JoshBorke
13:28.09JoshBorketime to make breakfast, later shirik ;P
13:28.55nevcairielpurl, ignore Shirik
13:28.56purlACTION sticks her fingers in her ears.  "La, la, la!  I can't hear you, Shirik!"
13:29.46ShirikSo apparently your chances of writing a NY Times Bestseller is 1 in 220
13:29.48Shirikaccording to CNN
13:29.58nevcairielthats not too bad
13:29.58Shirikwho the hell proofreads this crap
13:30.04Shirikthere's no way that's right
13:33.33JoshBorkenevcairiel: was there a decision on the FinalizeLibrary function in LibStub?
13:33.52JoshBorke~lart Shirik
13:33.52purldrops a baby grand on Shirik
13:33.52Shirik~lart JoshBorke
13:33.52purlduct-tapes JoshBorke to the floor and drools on him
13:34.00nevcairielnot that i noticed, but i was sleeping :P what was the question anyway?
13:34.30JoshBorkenevcairiel: pasta made a point that a library will load during an ADDON_LOADED event so you could just listen for those
13:34.47JoshBorkeShirik: did you know that instant grits look quite disgusting?
13:35.14JoshBorkei wasn't insta-larted by Shirik, i hope he's ok
13:36.24nevcairielhm i saw that discussion
13:36.31nevcairielbut i dont think we reached a decision
13:36.51nevcairielfunny US'ers are all still sleeping
13:37.14LunessaI'm not. :grumble:
13:37.40JoshBorkei'm not
13:37.56nevcairielwhy not anyway? isnt it like 10 ?
13:38.12nevcairielin east coast that is
13:38.24JoshBorkei was thinking about it and i'm torn because should libraries necessarily be registering for events?
13:38.45JoshBorkeand yes, it is 10am east coast time
13:39.14Lunessanevcairiel: I work Satrudays, and I have to get up at 6am.  It's almost 9am here.  
13:39.22nevcairielpoor you :(
13:41.00LunessaBeats unemployment, but ... I hate the weekend.
13:41.25nevcairielJoshBorke: you cant avoid that anyway, some simply need to. i am not sure about the callback tho .. i liked the idea initially.
13:41.30ShirikI'm going to head out
13:41.31Shiriktake care
13:41.40JoshBorkeshirik: bye shirik
13:41.44LunessaDrive safely.
13:42.53JoshBorke~botmail for shirik <3 shirik
13:43.10nevcairiellol
13:43.22JoshBorkei know, i'm cruel
13:44.43JoshBorkeanyway, i think the functionality is better dropped from the stub rather than use its current incarnation
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14:01.35JoshBorkewho's hendrik?
14:01.45JoshBorkenvm
14:03.17JoshBorkebye bye
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14:12.46Mr_Rabies2dammit
14:12.53Mr_Rabies2almost got shartuul
14:20.08LunessaDid they offer to enlarge something, ensure your attractiveness to the object of your desire, or ask your aid in moving millions out of a small nation?
14:20.16GofGNope
14:20.21GofGNo attachments, or nothing
14:20.26GofGIt just said this:
14:20.28GofGinvalids on the sled, while the boys camethinning the ranks of bachelordom, and leavingstampede to a panic. by telling them the fine old story of the friends  girl, i told you that you would not like  earbobs and a handkercher pin i'm a goin' a handkerchief containing a collection of    
14:20.56Mr_Rabies2i dunno
14:20.58Mr_Rabies2i get some good ones too
14:21.33GofGlike?
14:21.55GofGMy spam mailbox has almost hit 4000 messages in 30 days
14:22.00LunessaThe newest 'trick' in defeating spam filters, etc is to spout random text, or quotations from novels, etc. in an effort to confuse parsers.  
14:22.22GofGGmail wins at not being decieved, then
14:23.17zenzelezzI've had Gmail claim that one or two genuine e-mail were spam
14:23.23zenzelezzbut it does a very good job overall
14:23.25GofGOh, lets not forget: "pigtalied Iebsiian teeins kissing & show azsss seemstop"
14:23.37Mr_Rabies2"Baronesses always smiled at me and even men did in the unrestricted comfort station! Well, now I whizgiggle at them, because I took Mega. Dik  for 3 months and now my phallus is extremely longer than national."
14:23.44GofGLOL
14:23.45Mr_Rabies2whizgiggle.
14:24.36bleeterthe mild random words as semi-sane paras aren't new, been around a while.. certainly more prevalent in past 3-6 months
14:24.54bleeternew one I've started stumbling across are ones with subjects such as:
14:25.04bleeter"Primary purpose of this library is to provide reusable, high performance 2D graphic engine specially optimized for scientific and technical applications."
14:25.35GofGFrederick Oakes <uhahvrpctooy@hotmail.com>
14:25.36GofGto gutierrezcg
14:25.36GofG
14:25.36LunessaWe block something on the order of 100,000+ spam items daily here.  It's a never-ending battle.
14:25.36GofGshow details
14:25.36GofG<PROTECTED>
14:25.36GofGHey, where have you been? So long we didn't keep in touch and
14:25.38GofGour childhood friend gave me your email.
14:25.40GofGHope you still remember me and feel free to send me
14:25.42GofGemail at Diana@penmailpro.info
14:25.44GofGWait for your reply soonest.
14:25.46GofGWoah, sorry, flood
14:25.51GofGOur childhood friend :)
14:25.59GofGAwww, that's a touching story.
14:26.13GofGUnfortunately, my name isn't gutierrezcg.
14:26.41Mr_Rabies2the worst part is i have ones addressed to mrrabies and mr.rabies
14:26.45Mr_Rabies2:/
14:26.49GofGLOL
14:27.18Mr_Rabies2which means somewhere i've registered is selling my email
14:27.18Mr_Rabies2:/
14:27.35GofGDear John,
14:27.35GofGI just got off the phone with Robert and he was telling me about his new book about getting what (and who) you want with the power of Shamanism
14:27.35GofGYes, I said Shamanism.
14:27.36GofGThe helpful, spiritual sort of thing that can put you back
14:27.36GofGin peace and harmony with the universe and make your
14:27.37GofGwises and desires come to life...
14:27.39GofGAnyway, he told me about the amount of copies he was selling on a daily basis and (after my jaw absolutely dropped) I was convinced we are in the middle of a 'spiritual revolution'
14:27.39Mr_Rabies2because i've gone out of my way to never post it on forums or leave it public
14:27.40Mr_Rabies2whoa
14:27.44Mr_Rabies2calm down tiger
14:27.47GofG:( Sorry, keep flooding
14:27.56GofGStupid spammers use pagebreaks instead of just rollaround
14:28.31LunessaHeh, back in the day, I used to have a vanity address of just my first name @(popularinterntcompany of the 90s).com - I had to quit using it because I was dealing with upwards of 500 e-mails daily which were not spam, but mis-directed.  So I had a taste of the spam onslaught before it became big business.
14:28.42Mr_Rabies2<PROTECTED>
14:29.16GofGlol Mr_Rabies2
14:29.23Mr_Rabies2i used to have a @wherethefuckaremypants.com email
14:29.59Mr_Rabies2i think it was just a forwarder
14:30.06Lunessahah,  I was the original registrant of "hellfreezesover.com" and the admin e-mail was "when"
14:30.52GofGLazy to attend exam or classes? We have Diplomas, Degrees, Masters' or Doctorate to choose from any field of your interest. Only 2 weeks require to delivers the prestigious non-accredited universities paper to your doorstep. Do not hesitate to give us a call today! 1-270-913-8215
14:31.07bleeterLunessa: nice
14:31.08Mr_Rabies2CALL IT
14:31.21Mr_Rabies2there's no way it's a scam i mean come on
14:31.44Mr_Rabies2only 2 weeks require to delivers the prestigious no accredited universities papers to your doorstep
14:31.46Lunessaprestigious non-accredited universities - LAWL
14:31.51GofGHehe yes
14:31.53GofGI love spam
14:32.04zenzelezzgold4guild is starting to piss me off, far more than Peons4hire ever did
14:32.04Mr_Rabies2i had one with hhgttg quotes in it
14:32.06GofGWoah
14:32.13Mr_Rabies2zenz, you're getting gold spam?
14:32.19Mr_Rabies2where? :O
14:32.21GofGBest email spam subject ever:
14:32.30zenzelezzno, they just create new characters every day and spam trade channel
14:32.34Mr_Rabies2really?
14:32.34zenzelezzsee like one or two every day
14:32.36GofGpartner faking his/her orgasm?
14:32.40Mr_Rabies2doesn't happen to mine
14:32.51Mr_Rabies2most of my spam emails are pretty explicit recently
14:32.53Mr_Rabies2it's pretty weird
14:33.06GofGI lol'd at the fact that they put a "his" in their
14:33.11GofGthere*
14:33.26Mr_Rabies2"My new guy's cock is enormous, and my mouth is tiny."
14:33.30Mr_Rabies2D:
14:33.52LunessaOh god.  
14:34.01LunessaAnd yes, men fake it too.
14:34.10GofGLOL Mr_Rabies2
14:34.22Mr_Rabies2seriously, what the hell "I just started having sex, and my boyfriend keeps popping out when we do it."
14:34.24Mr_Rabies2i feel dirty
14:34.30zenzelezzI get a lot of spam stating some variation of "You're entitled to government funding and can claim it here:"
14:34.42GofGWoah: 1337. Lots of it
14:34.43GofGWe have everything you need: Phenterm1ne, Cial1s S0ft T4bs, V1agra
14:34.44GofGS0ft T4bs, Cial1s, V1agra, Lev1tra, Propec1a, Val1um, Xan4x, Amb1en,
14:34.44GofGZyb4n, Atar4x, At1van, Car1soma, Ultr4m, Glucoph4ge,
14:34.44GofGLip1tor, Mer1dia, Zoc0r, N0rvasc, Prov1gil/Modaf1nil, Zol0ft,
14:34.44GofGV1agra Oral Gel.
14:34.47Mr_Rabies2it's like they got all their subjects came from some akward sex help forum or something
14:34.47Mr_Rabies2whoa
14:34.52Mr_Rabies2viagra oral gel
14:34.59GofGLook at all that leet.
14:36.26Mr_Rabies2"The mouse port on the ATI Graphics Ultra and Ultra Pro uses the Logitech bus mouse protocol."
14:37.20Mr_Rabies2here's the body text
14:37.21Mr_Rabies2http://pastey.net/72720
14:37.22Mr_Rabies2no link
14:37.23Mr_Rabies2nothing
14:37.28GofG"Boytoys always whizgiggled at me and even blokes did in the not private comfort station! Well, now I whizgiggle at them, because I took Meg, a dik. for 7 months and now my putz is badly preponderant than national. pick up"
14:37.35Mr_Rabies2whizgiggled
14:37.36Mr_Rabies2hell yeah
14:37.38GofGHis putz is badly preponderant!
14:37.40GofGOMG
14:37.47Mr_Rabies2i'm gonna start using whizgiggled in conversation
14:38.03GofGDefinitely
14:38.12Mr_Rabies2http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=whizgiggle
14:38.16Lunessa"not private comfort station"  
14:38.26LunessaChinese -> English FTL
14:38.28Mr_Rabies2http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whizgiggle&r=f
14:38.30GofGMy GF is coming over in 20 minutes, I'm gonna be like "Guess what, Katie? Well, I've been taking Meg a Dik for 7 months and now my putz is badly preponderant than national.
14:38.43Mr_Rabies2it's like they used an imaginary thesaurus for it
14:38.50Mr_Rabies2rofl
14:39.14Mr_Rabies2boytoys always whizgiggled and even blokes did
14:39.15Mr_Rabies2i mean
14:39.16Mr_Rabies2what
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14:41.55LunessaThread Necromancy FTL
14:42.00bleeterMega Dik?
14:42.28Mr_Rabies2scroll up
14:42.42GofGWith Xtra Size+ you dont have to wear bigger shoes to make women think you have a huge putz. <---- Lololol
14:42.43Mr_Rabies2we've been delving into our spam folders
14:43.26GofGThis one is too confusing to paste in here, so I screenshotted it
14:43.30GofGhttp://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4735/picture3vz6.png
14:43.44Mr_Rabies2i pasteyed that same one
14:43.49GofGOh haha
14:43.50Mr_Rabies2http://pastey.net/72720
14:43.57Mr_Rabies2except mine had no link
14:44.19Mr_Rabies2Fembot in a wet t-shirt
14:45.16GofG!I want sale you rolex ? Do you want? nt06xa
14:45.23Mr_Rabies2i got the same ones
14:45.40Mr_Rabies2i imagine gold farmers losing money so they go into selling knockoff watches
14:45.55GofGlolol
14:45.56Mr_Rabies2! I WANT SALE YOU ROLEX U BUY?!
14:46.00GofGLOL
14:46.04Mr_Rabies2DO YOU WANT?!
14:46.12Mr_Rabies2nt06xa
14:46.12LunessaAmelican dolla
14:46.17Mr_Rabies2oh crap he's a cylon
14:46.41Lunessahttp://www.wewerecenturions.com/
14:47.00GofGMr_Rabies2: I got another clone of that last one
14:47.02GofGBabes always whooped at me and even bucks did in the open john!
14:47.02GofGWell, now I hee-haw at them, because I took Me - ga - Di k
14:47.03GofGfor 6 months and now my prick is very much weightier than national.
14:47.03GofGshop for
14:47.18zenzelezzthan national, eh?
14:47.32GofGYes
14:47.44GofGI simply hee-hawed at the, however.
14:48.07GofGAnother!
14:48.08GofGFemales always laughed at me and even chaps did in the free lavatory!
14:48.08GofGWell, now I sriek at them, because I took M E _G_A_D_ IK
14:48.09GofGfor 7 months and now my pecker is truly more than national.
14:48.15mikmaGofG: i have got 3-4 emails exactly like that in this week
14:48.15GofGI sriek at them.
14:48.20GofGPaste them!
14:48.36mikmai deleted them already :(
14:48.36LunessaSo which one of you fuckers is making an AddOn called MegaDik?
14:49.15GofGLOL
14:49.24GofGCuties always whooped at me and even blokes did in the public bathroom!
14:49.24GofGWell, now I sriek at them, because I took M_E_G. ADI. K
14:49.25GofGfor 5 months and now my tool is dreadfully largest than average.
14:49.35GofGWtf does "sriek" mean?
14:49.46GofGAnd I am largest than average. Howabout you Mr_Rabies2?
14:52.24bleeterwhoever works on the speed improvements on the armory site... ++++++++++
14:53.11bleeterLunessa: I'm gunna head off now, but I'll have a think about such an addon's specification
14:53.27LunessaCiao
14:53.53zenzelezzyou'll be thinking of a MegaDik? o_O
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14:53.59bleeteraye
14:54.18bleeterwas thinking some kinda parser to count how many lame-ass smilies one's seen
14:54.47bleeterthen you could announce in /trade every 24 hours who your faction's MegaDik has been
14:54.58bleeter*seen on /trade
14:55.11bleeteror something equally pointless
14:55.19bleeterpointless addons ftw!
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14:59.04sag_ich_nicht!vs eu magtheridon knifa eu frostwolf mickeyknox
14:59.10ThraeBotsag_ich_nicht: Knifa vs Mickeyknox! Two 70 mages square off!; 33/28/0 vs 5/8/48; Knifa wins by 8 TBRs!
14:59.15sag_ich_nichtlol
14:59.19sag_ich_nichtthat is not correct.
14:59.44sag_ich_nichtThrae does your bot not take resilence into account?
15:00.17GofG!vs us Blackwater Raiders gofg vs us Altar of Storms Drenrim
15:00.22GofG:( It didn't work
15:00.28ThraeBotGofG: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck.
15:00.39GofG:'(
15:00.59GofG!vs us BlackwaterRaiders Gofg vs us AltarofStorms Drenrim
15:01.04ThraeBotGofG: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck.
15:01.40zenzelezz!vs us Blackwater Raiders Gofg us Altar of Storms Drenrim
15:01.47ThraeBotzenzelezz: Gofg vs Drenrim! Drenrim has +32 lvls on Gofg (38 vs 70); A L38 hunter and a L70 warrior square off!; 29/0/0 vs 41/19/1; Drenrim wins by 852 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
15:01.54zenzelezzyou had a spurious "vs" in the middle of yours
15:01.57GofGOh
15:02.04GofGyay!
15:02.21GofG!vs us Blackwater Raiders Gofg us Blackwater Raiders Verlant
15:02.30ThraeBotGofG: Gofg vs Verlant! Verlant has +32 lvls on Gofg (38 vs 70); A L38 hunter and a L70 warrior square off!; 29/0/0 vs 8/5/48; Verlant wins by 992 TBRs! ***OWNED!***
15:02.34GofGlolol :)
15:02.38GofGThis is fun
15:02.53zenzelezz!vs eu Silvermoon Zenzio us Altar of Storms Drenrim
15:02.59ThraeBotzenzelezz: Zenzio vs Drenrim! Two 70 warriors square off!; 11/0/50 vs 41/19/1; Zenzio wins by 192 TBRs!
15:03.04GofG!vs us Blackwater Raiders Verlant us Altar of Storms Drenrim
15:03.08ThraeBotGofG: Verlant vs Drenrim! Two 70 warriors square off!; 8/5/48 vs 41/19/1; Verlant wins by 140 TBRs!
15:03.13GofGWOOT VERLANT WINS!
15:03.29zenzelezzI won by a lot more though
15:04.30GofG!vs us blackwater raiders cexiforu us blackwater raiders verlant
15:04.35ThraeBotGofG: Armory parse error. You must have screwed up the command. You suck.
15:04.40GofGGood, that toon is deleted.
15:04.42GofGI hate goldshire.
15:05.33MyNameIsJonasIn modding, what is the command to make a little frame within a window that you can write in?
15:06.05mikmaMyNameIsJonas: /camp
15:06.10MyNameIsJonaslol
15:06.29MyNameIsJonasi mean in modding, not ingame and i dont want to logout >.<
15:06.53mikmawell i didn't even get what you were after
15:07.08MyNameIsJonasnvm i figured it out
15:07.14MyNameIsJonas"Edit Box"
15:09.36Mr_Rabies2Lunessa, does that spoil anything important? :X
15:09.40Mr_Rabies2i'm only on season 2
15:09.52Mr_Rabies2(wewerecenturions)
15:10.00LunessaMr_Rabies2: I don't watch the show, it's just a funny cartoon
15:10.07Mr_Rabies2ah okay
15:10.09Mr_Rabies2well you should
15:10.10Mr_Rabies2it's great
15:12.46MyNameIsJonasanybody know what the default frame is for an Edit Box?
15:14.38MyNameIsJonasi mean- not frame, but skin
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15:27.41MyNameIsJonasHello
15:28.10MyNameIsJonas??
15:28.43Lunessahttp://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface#EditBox
15:28.59MyNameIsJonaskk
15:29.25Legorolping a wowi admin
15:29.59sag_ich_nichtLegorol i don't think that is going to work.
15:30.08Legoroli know, they are all asleep :(
15:30.13MyNameIsJonasdamn cant find the skin though :(
15:30.24MyNameIsJonasnvm
15:30.27sag_ich_nichtLegorol you should ping Cairenn
15:30.32MyNameIsJonasoh nvm
15:30.33Legorolsag_ich_nicht: it was worth a try ;-)
15:30.35sag_ich_nichtthen the highlight might actually work
15:30.35sag_ich_nicht:P
15:30.47Legorolyah i could ping Cair, clad or dolby, but why ping three people
15:30.49Legorol:)
15:31.09sag_ich_nichtbecause.
15:31.17Legorolit's rude to ping the entire op-list
15:31.56LunessaMr_Rabies2: I don't watch TV much at all.  Occasionally something will catch my eye, but either I'm working, playing wow, teaching myself something (access FTL) or sleeping.
15:32.20Mr_Rabies2i'm just borrowing the dvd from a friend :P
15:32.24Mr_Rabies2i don't watch tv much either
15:32.38Mr_Rabies2dvds*
15:33.52Mr_Rabies2why the heck is primal fire so expensive?
15:35.08Lunessabecause farming it sucks.
15:35.58MyNameIsJonasyup
15:36.07MyNameIsJonasi need money on my hunter so bad
15:36.20MyNameIsJonasonly 370g after 5 days of doing whatever i could
15:37.47LunessaFarm ogres in Nagrand.  I've made 700g there in a single day, selling no "zomg greens/blues" just coin/cloth.  Granted, it was an 11 hour day.
15:38.57Mr_Rabies2<Lunessa> because farming it sucks.
15:39.25Mr_Rabies2it's pretty common from fel iron
15:40.00Lunessafarming sucks mightily.  Like a Hover vacuum on over-drive.
15:41.03LunessaActually, it's not common enough on Fel Iron.  I've leveled 40 70s, 3 of them have mining and I mine fel iron for the motes.  Still take a long time to get the 6 primal fire some of my smithing plans call for.
15:42.02zenzelezzI find Motes of Fire to be easier to get from the fire elementals in Ogri'la than from fel iron veins
15:42.25zenzelezzbut I'm impatient about flying around
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16:06.49GarounI think I just need to pull up wow head and start doing every quest I skipped in outlands, I can't stand grinding for money :(
16:07.43GarounI mean I could stealth farm instances since I'm a druid and enchanter, but those got nerfed quite a lot
16:15.25LunessaFinishing quests will pay well, and give you gear to boot.
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16:19.52MyNameIsJonasfunction QuickNotes_OnLoad()
16:19.52MyNameIsJonasSlashCmdList["QUESTANNOUNCECOMMAND"] = QuestAnnounce_SlashHandler;
16:19.52MyNameIsJonasSLASH_QUICKNOTESCOMMAND1 = "/quicknotes";
16:19.52MyNameIsJonasSLASH_QUICKNOTESCOMMAND2 = "/qn";
16:19.52MyNameIsJonasthisWindow:Show();
16:19.57MyNameIsJonaswindow isnt popping up
16:20.06MyNameIsJonasoh ppop
16:20.10MyNameIsJonasi forgot to change QA
16:20.13MyNameIsJonas:D
16:21.04MyNameIsJonasfunction QuickNotes_OnLoad()
16:21.04MyNameIsJonasSlashCmdList["QUICKNOTESCOMMAND"] = QuickNotes_SlashHandler;
16:21.04MyNameIsJonasSLASH_QUICKNOTESCOMMAND1 = "/quicknotes";
16:21.04MyNameIsJonasSLASH_QUICKNOTESCOMMAND2 = "/qn";
16:21.04MyNameIsJonasthisWindow:Show();
16:21.10MyNameIsJonasSTILL not working : /
16:21.29MyNameIsJonasanybody know why it won't open the window?
16:22.55mikmaMyNameIsJonas: hint. pastey.net
16:25.19GarounUnfortunately Lune, I got just about the best druid tanking gear you can have pre-25
16:25.29Garounany gear I get would be sharded
16:25.36Garounor sold
16:25.45Lunessapre-25?
16:26.15Garoun25 man raids
16:26.32LunessaShards sell well. :)
16:26.45GarounI think the quests should be my first focus
16:27.13Garounwith my gear, unless something calls for 3+ people I shouldn't have a problem doing it
16:27.42MyNameIsJonasHow the heck is this gonna help me with a script?!
16:27.48LunessaThey pay exceptionally well.  If you do the daily quests in Outlands you can easily make anywhere from 110-240g just for those.
16:28.13MyNameIsJonasyeah
16:28.22MyNameIsJonasi need to do all the Ogri'la Quests though
16:28.24MyNameIsJonas: /
16:28.32MyNameIsJonasanybody know how you get the vibrations?
16:28.35zenzelezzMyNameIsJonas: it will help because no-one likes seeing that big pastes on IRC. It's channel policy
16:28.40zenzelezzthat's why it's in the topic
16:28.45LunessaSkyguard quests will pay you a tad over 11g a pop
16:28.54GarounI have to get more of the pre-reqs done before I can unlock all the dailys
16:28.56MyNameIsJonashttp://pastey.net/72723
16:29.30Garounright now I think I have 1 daily with skettis, and 2 for orgri'la
16:30.10zenzelezzI thought two of the Ogri'la ones were unlocked by rep
16:30.20LunessaSeveral of them are.  
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16:30.45GarounI think some are rep and others are quest locked
16:30.56LunessaSince I do a lot of mining to support my smithing habit, I find killing mobs near ore nodes generates some ok cash too. :)
16:30.57Garounmeaning you have to finish some of the earlier ones before you get the repeatable
16:31.22MyNameIsJonasthere're 2 dailys for Skettis, Escort and Bombs
16:31.34GarounI have bombs right now
16:31.55MyNameIsJonasu can get both of them anytime
16:32.02MyNameIsJonaswell once a day anyway :D
16:32.22zenzelezzfor the escort one you just have to find the NPC
16:32.34GarounI haven't gotten the escort offered to me yet :(
16:32.45MyNameIsJonasyeah
16:32.45zenzelezzthen you haven't found him
16:32.48MyNameIsJonasit's not offered
16:32.50zenzelezzhe spawns in one of three locations, randomly
16:32.52MyNameIsJonashe spawns 3 spots
16:32.54MyNameIsJonasyeah
16:33.00Garounah ok
16:36.08MyNameIsJonascya
16:42.24blqsry.. I just can't find out how to get the name of the targeted unit ...looks like I'm somehow stupid or something like that -.-
16:42.36blqcould anyone help me?
16:42.50zenzelezzUnitName("target")
16:43.32blqlol so "target" is something like a global variable?
16:44.21blq*nods head @ wall* I thought everything between "" is interpreted as plain text
16:44.31blqthankyou
16:44.47sag_ich_nichtso what if a player has called himself target
16:44.48sag_ich_nichtD:
16:44.51sag_ich_nichtoh wait
16:44.52sag_ich_nichtnvm.
16:45.01sag_ich_nicht~slap sag_ich_nicht
16:45.02purlACTION slaps sag_ich_nicht, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:45.05sag_ich_nichterm
16:45.09sag_ich_nicht~whaleslap sag_ich_nicht
16:45.09purlACTION beats sag_ich_nicht upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
16:45.09blq~slap blq
16:45.10purlACTION slaps blq, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
16:45.25blqthx
16:46.01zenzelezz"target" is a unit ID. The game generally only recognizes a few
16:46.17zenzelezzhttp://www.wowwiki.com/UnitId
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17:00.55LunessaIt should be happy hour, and I should be having a vodka tonic right about now.
17:05.57Punkie`~botsnack
17:05.57purlaw, gee, Punkie`
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17:08.06Epydemicwoooooow
17:08.33Epydemic?
17:08.41Epydemic?:
17:09.21Epydemichow to i ask for help?
17:10.10Cairennyou use your fingers to press buttons on your keyboard that put letters on the screen, creating words for others to read
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17:10.50Epydemicoops i am sorry i though i had to que a bot or something ^^
17:10.59LunessaCairenn: Bringing the snark. :)
17:12.04Cairenn;)
17:12.25Epydemicso is there a webside i have to ready first?
17:12.25CairennEpydemic: I'm just being a smartass, don't stress - ask your question
17:12.41Epydemici dont want to get kicked or something for now being "smart" enough
17:13.01Epydemichmm... ok ^^
17:13.25Cairennyou won't get kicked unless you do something to deserve it
17:13.33Epydemicsweet ^^
17:14.02Epydemicwell... i understand that conditional spell cast can lo longer be performed
17:14.04Cairennbut if you ask for help and someone points you to a specific reference ....
17:14.10Epydemic^^
17:14.16Epydemici am tracking
17:15.22Epydemicyes UI's do it alow ^^
17:15.37Epydemic*alot
17:16.35Epydemici think i just want to know how to check for buffs ^^
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17:17.26Thunder_Childhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Buff might help
17:17.37Epydemicthank you
17:17.44Thunder_Childyour welcome
17:19.01Cairennyou're vs your
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17:19.42Cairenn;)
17:19.57Kaso___gah
17:20.01Thunder_Childsigh...english
17:20.05Kaso___wtf is up with my internet >.<
17:20.08CairennKaso_: you've grown a tail!
17:20.54KasoMy telephone line has such bad line noise, its frustrating
17:21.34Cairennbtw, Lunessa - snarks are uber weapons
17:21.51LunessaCairenn: I am snark.  
17:22.01CairennI loved using snarks
17:22.25Cairennalthough shotgun was always amusing, watching their heads explode
17:23.47Epydemic.... snark?
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17:24.04CairennHalf Life
17:24.09Cidanis a good game
17:24.25Epydemicooh i my room is playing that... well the second on is it in that one?
17:24.30Cairennhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snark_(Half-Life)
17:24.49Cidanmmm
17:24.50Cidansnarks
17:24.53CidanI wish they were in HL2
17:25.03Thunder_Childdems good eatin
17:26.38Epydemichave you seen bioshock ^^
17:26.46Cairennsecond only to sheep in Worms
17:28.54LunessaAnyone here ever used "Community Server"?  
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17:29.23zenzelezzthe only weapon I was feared with in Half-Life was the shotgun... I wasn't necessarily good with it, but I had an itchy trigger finger if anything appear around a corner quickly
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17:31.35Kasohttp://64.202.120.86/upload/image/articles/2007/mempile/mempile-reader1.jpg
17:31.39Kaso800gb of disk goodness
17:31.44Kasohttp://www.tfot.info/articles/56/Mempile---Terabyte-on-a-CD.html
17:33.25Kalrothwtf?
17:34.00Kasohmm?
17:34.14KalrothThat first image, the mempile reader :)
17:34.27Kasoits a prototype reader for the mempile disk
17:34.38Kasowhich currently holds 600-800gb
17:36.00Kasohttp://64.202.120.86/upload/image/articles/2007/mempile/mempile-reader2.jpg
17:36.03Kasoanother shot of it
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17:48.01Cidanso, this is upsetting.
17:48.07zenzelezzthen don't join
17:48.41CidanI use just my intergrated sound -- I'll never have EAX now because of Vista
17:49.02Mr_Rabies2argh
17:49.17Mr_Rabies2i'm mad at the booterang and soul cannon quest
17:49.21Kasoserves you right for buying vista!
17:49.24Thunder_Childi use EAX with vista.....
17:49.36zenzelezzonboard sound?
17:50.21Thunder_Childme?
17:50.24zenzelezzyes
17:50.30Thunder_Childno, X-fi
17:50.38zenzelezzwell Cidan was talking onboard
17:50.59Thunder_Childbut he could get a sound card.....
17:50.59CidanRight, there is a wrapper creative has for hardware accel using OpenAL
17:51.07CidanWhy should I?  Stupid Vista.
17:52.08Thunder_Childi fail to see why you keep blameing vista
17:52.15Cidanbecause Vista removed HAL
17:52.24Cidanno DirectSound
17:52.31Cidanat all.
17:52.35CidanAll sound is now software
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17:53.11Cidanie: load a game where you select EAX 1/2, and you can't anymore because the HAL is gone.
17:53.43Thunder_Childi still have the options in some games to choose EAX or not
17:55.10Cidanright, let's go over this again
17:55.19Cidan[13:51] <Cidan> Right, there is a wrapper creative has for hardware accel using OpenAL
17:55.20Cidan:D
17:55.53Thunder_Childand again i have yet to see what your problem is
17:56.39Thunder_Childhttp://www.soundblaster.com/alchemy/
17:57.07zenzelezzas far as I can tell, because he's using onboard sound Vista doesn't let those drivers or whatever access what it needs for EAX
17:57.08CidanI don't own a creative card?
17:58.06Thunder_ChildEAX is creatives propritary stiuff anyway isnt it?
17:58.26zenzelezzhe could obviously pull something off before using Vista
17:59.12Cidanit is, but it was open for other cards to work with as well -- they still do, just Vista now breaks everything BUT creative.
17:59.33CidanEAX 1/2 are not a creative exclusive feature
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18:01.40Thunder_Child"Creative, seeing the rising popularity and marketing significance of having a proprietary sound API, gave the functionality of this effects engine the name EAX. EAX is a library of extensions to Microsoft's DirectSound3D API, adding environmental audio presets to DS3D's audio positioning." i see proprietary in them thar statement
18:01.54Lysistrata124EAX isn't that great IMO anyway. I needs to much fine tuning to use it to listen to music and in Games etc. I didn't notice that much of a difference. Maybe it is only useful for systems with more than two speakers.
18:02.55CidanThunder_Child, sigh, forget it.
18:03.23Thunder_Childit's very simple, go out, buy a sound card, stop bitching
18:03.38CidanI said forget it.
18:03.38Chaotic_DDo I need a C compiler to use Lua on my PC for file I/O?
18:03.42Thunder_Childunless you like bitching in which case do the above and keep bitching
18:03.45Lysistrata124And for having it a "Creative exclusive Feature" my NForce Chipset (Realtek '97 or something CHipset) got EAX.
18:04.31Lysistrata124Which means it can't be Creative exclusive but you might have to license it though.
18:04.50Lysistrata124but whatever ^^
18:07.29sag_ich_nichtChaotic_D are you telling us that you do not have a C compiler?
18:07.40sag_ich_nichtshame on you :O
18:07.43Chaotic_Dyeah. :S
18:08.28Chaotic_DI just never got one working in Windows. too many libraries. actually, I think I got text in one of the earlier Windows C compilers.
18:08.47Lunessa...  
18:09.09Lunessac compilers are available for free.  A Google search will show you any number.
18:09.10Chaotic_Dmaybe it was just for graphics that I could never get it working because of libraries...
18:09.33Chaotic_DThat's not the problem I had, Lunessa.
18:12.37Chaotic_D# Programming tools: Cygwin, Dev-C/C++, DJGPP, GNU Compiler Collection, LCC, Linker, make, lint, Small-C, C--, Pelles C
18:12.44sag_ich_nichtneed a generic buffing addon. help.
18:13.07Lunessasag_ich_nicht: SmartBuff
18:13.08Chaotic_DI remember trying to get DJGPP working long ago. hah. ahhh. it wouldn't run any of my old code.
18:13.17sag_ich_nichtsmartbuff is bugged with paladin buffs.
18:13.27Cidanhell
18:13.34LunessaYou didn't specifiy beyond generic.
18:13.39CidanWindows even has a visual studio version that is free
18:13.41sag_ich_nichtokay hold.
18:13.41Lunessajackass
18:13.50sag_ich_nichtneed a generic buffing addon that isn't broken. help.
18:13.56sag_ich_nichtgeez
18:13.59sag_ich_nichtjust use mingw
18:14.00sag_ich_nichtmkay
18:14.01sag_ich_nichtk
18:14.02sag_ich_nichtthx
18:14.02Cidanbuffwatch++
18:14.07Chaotic_DBTW, someone recommended Quartz for hunter ranged attacks, but it didn't work for me. for ranged. it worked fine for melee. ranged was enabled in the settings, but I got nothing.
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18:15.03Chaotic_Dhuh... apparently I have MS Visual Studio installed. I probably just never figured out how to do anything with it.
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18:16.34Chaotic_Doh yeah. I think I couldn't figure out how to run programs. :>
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18:18.28Chaotic_Dseems like some programs are just as hard to figure out as a programming language.
18:18.46Chaotic_Dby programs I mean applications.
18:21.12Chaotic_DI wouldn't know how to use mingw
18:22.13zenzelezzwhy are you looking for a compiler anyway?
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18:24.02Chaotic_Dto do some file I/O.
18:24.19zenzelezzfrom where?
18:24.24Chaotic_DI can code, I just can't set up compilers with libraries and stuff.
18:24.48Chaotic_Drun program from my PC, doing file I/O on my PC.
18:25.40zenzelezzI'm assuming this is not related to (in-game) WoW
18:26.02Chaotic_Dman, I remember back when I had a DOS C++ compiler. I didn't have to set up anything. just go down to that little window at the bottom, type a command, and instantly get output to test a command or two.
18:26.43Chaotic_Dit's indirectly related to WoW. I'm just trying to grab some data from 100 files to put into one file to make a database for use in WoW.
18:28.54Chaotic_DI did want to go back to programming some simple graphics, but that's something else. :S
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18:46.35foxlitHm, I need a bit of independant thought
18:47.02foxlitI currently have centralized event handling that also logs errors
18:47.18foxlitgenerally, something along the lines of:
18:47.28foxlitDummyFrame:SetScript("OnEvent", EventHandler);
18:48.18foxlitfunction EventHandler(self, event, ...) ok, err = pcall(funcs[event]); if not ok then Panic(err); end end
18:48.45foxlitfunction Panic(txt) return txt .. debugstack(3); end
18:48.53Kaso"if not ok" makes me smile
18:49.16foxlitIt's the 3 in debugstack that has me interested
18:49.36foxlitRight number? Wrong number?
18:49.56clad|awaywhy manually print the debugstack
18:50.05clad|awaywhy not trigger the error at the right level?
18:50.11clad|awayi.e. error(txt, 3)
18:50.22foxlitBecause that's a simplification to illustrate a point
18:51.00foxlitActual output involves storing the relevant part of the debugstack for inspection afterwards, and not elevating error outside panic routine
18:51.29clad|awayalright.
18:51.34foxlit(I'm assuming 1 would return the stack including "Panic", 2 would return the stack including EventHandler, both of which are relatively boring)
18:51.58clad|away1 would throw the stack including error, etc.
18:51.59clad|awaybut yes.
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19:03.05Epydemicexcuse me, i have been wondering if there is a way to stop following someone through means of script of code?
19:04.16Kaydeethree>>>5000/11
19:04.16CideKaydeethree: 454.54545454545
19:04.34Kaydeethree>>>5000/12
19:04.34CideKaydeethree: 416.66666666667
19:08.01CidanEpydemic, no.
19:08.05CidanEpydemic, well...
19:08.59sag_ich_nichtlol
19:09.07sag_ich_nichtthe GCD is buggy
19:09.16sag_ich_nichtit's actually more around 1.57 seconds
19:09.38CidanIt is not possible to stop following someone from a script. The player needs to take action (move, jump, sit, whatever).
19:09.47CidanSo, no.
19:14.39art3mistodays mindless challenge
19:14.55art3missave these locally  http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=482264837
19:15.14art3misand
19:15.15art3mishttp://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=483708521
19:15.33AnduinLotharwhat, the movie?
19:15.44AnduinLothari have a bookmarklet for that
19:15.46art3misfor some reason my clients just dont understand copyright law and that you can't just rip videos from places to post on thier site
19:16.04art3misspecially if you're a high profile company and the source is a news network ;P
19:16.33art3missome news clips on mobile i believe
19:16.41art3misMobile,alabama
19:20.44Epydemicthose anyone know how to use the RunBinding() function
19:23.49Thraesag_ich_nicht: Actually, my resilience is a big factor vs most classes, and for TBRs in general, because TBRs are PvP-oriented.
19:24.00Thraesag_ich_nicht: -my
19:24.30Epydemiccan api fuctions even be used in a macro?
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19:24.53Wraangerheyaz
19:25.04Epydemichello
19:25.20Kaydeethreesure, as long as the api functions aren't protected
19:25.44Epydemicwell if you use the /script you get an error... those that mean its protected?
19:26.10Kaydeethreewhat are you trying to call?
19:26.21Epydemicrunbinding
19:26.33Epydemicits not protected accordingto wow wiki
19:26.35ThraeKaydeethree: Ghostbusters! Da-da-da-nuuuh-nuuuh
19:26.56foxlitEpydemic: it probably should be
19:27.04Epydemiclol true lol
19:27.33foxlitsec
19:27.44Epydemicok ^^
19:27.53Chaotic_Dmaybe it just binds the key for running. :S
19:28.03foxlitno, it's not protected
19:28.11Epydemicso how to make it work
19:28.22foxlit./run RunBinding("TOGGLEFPS");
19:28.29Chaotic_Deither way, you can't script movement, because it's protected. they don't want you to use scripts to auto-navigate.
19:28.42Epydemicooooh is that in a macro?
19:28.59foxlitrun is an alias for script
19:29.05foxlit"RunBinding cannot be used to call a Protected Function from an unsigned addon. "
19:30.23Rallionit is so freakin hot out.
19:31.02Epydemicfoxlit: hat i dont understand your quote
19:31.14Cidanif something is protected
19:31.17Cidanrun binging can not call it
19:31.24Epydemicoooh
19:31.30Cidanthere is never any way to ever run protected code
19:31.32Cidanperiod.
19:32.13Chaotic_Dcan you script sitting down? that would stop you from following someone.
19:32.32Epydemicwow
19:32.37Cidanno
19:32.45Chaotic_Dreally. hm.
19:32.45zenzelezztry hitting X while following someone
19:33.03Chaotic_Doh... you get up again?
19:33.16zenzelezzas far as I know you don't even sit down because you're moving
19:33.49Chaotic_DI guess you better just make the script sound an alarm so you can manually stop following. :>
19:34.11Epydemicyea >_<
19:34.36Chaotic_Dthat wouldn't be so bad. better than nothing.
19:35.42Chaotic_Dman, where did my Einhander music go? I want that one that reminds me of an engine revving.
19:37.18Cidanexcellent taste in music
19:38.41Chaotic_Dare you being serious?
19:38.46CidanYes
19:38.53CidanEinhander has some of the best music ever.
19:40.17Chaotic_DI don
19:40.45Lunessa... Warhammer inspired Punk?
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19:42.14Chaotic_DI actually don't think I listened to Einhander music for that long. then again, it's been a while, so my favorites have shifted, and I don't remember how long exactly. :>
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19:45.41Shirik|zZzWelp, I made it down here
19:45.46Shirik|zZzunfortunately my desktop now refuses to boot, both Windows and Linux
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19:46.37ScytheBlade1Fack, Einhander
19:46.42ScytheBlade1I only ever got the demo of that :/
19:46.50Chaotic_DI never even got that.
19:48.38Shirikwow
19:48.54Shirikif you guys are bored, try googling this search phrase: inurl:indexFrame.shtml Axis.
19:49.05ScytheBlade1lol
19:49.07ScytheBlade1Done that before
19:49.14ScytheBlade1It's fun for a bit, that's about it
19:49.19Shirikthat's the stupidest security flaw ever
19:49.27Shirikwho in their right mind markets something like that
19:49.30ScytheBlade1At one point in time, I found a camera that belonged to a vet
19:49.42ScytheBlade1It was a camera that recorded pets being put under
19:49.54Shirik=(
19:50.38Chaotic_Dgrrr. I am going to have to redownload Einhander.
19:50.53Shirikand I am going to have to go pick up some new hard drives
19:50.56Shiriktake care guys :D
19:52.05zenzelezzhope he remembered to backup his porn
19:52.20Shirik|AFK~lart zenzelezz
19:52.20purlthrows zenzelezz's poor little doggy off a cliff
19:52.28Shirik|AFKI backed up everything 2 days ago, when the first symptoms appeared :P
19:52.30zenzelezzguess he didn't
19:56.51Chaotic_DI like a wide variety of music, but mostly ones with no lyrics. video game, video game remixes, movie/tv soundtracks. lots of techno-like stuff (not exclusively) but the slightly less-repedetive kind.
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19:57.08Chaotic_DBT might be a bit like Einhander, eh?
19:58.04Chaotic_Dnah.
19:58.07zenzelezzRed Alert (1) had awesome music
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19:58.31Chaotic_DI liked Tiberian Sun. of course, that's the one I actually played. :>
19:58.51zenzelezzTS had decent music, but not as good as RA (in my opinion)
19:59.43Chaotic_Dit was fairly ambient music. not the kind you actively listen to.
20:00.06zenzelezzthat's what made them so good
20:00.14Chaotic_Dfound it! Factory is the one with the revving engine!
20:00.49zenzelezzwhen it comes to movie and game music, I prefer it when you don't actually notice it much other than the effect they create
20:01.24AnduinLothari'm nto a big fan of the wow music
20:01.32Chaotic_DI do like some ambient music. I mean the kind that aren't ambient can be difficult to play while you're having to concentrate on something. (for me, at least)
20:01.55AnduinLothari loved the diablo, d2, wc2, starcraft music but wc3 and wow are meh..
20:02.02Chaotic_Dheh.
20:02.04leethalthe music in stormwind is not ambient when the choir starts
20:02.05zenzelezzChaotic_D: ah, I see what you mean; and I tend to agree
20:02.31zenzelezzI don't mind WoW's music, but I turned it off after a few weeks because it felt a bit repetitive
20:02.34AnduinLothari love the melodic non-ambiant music
20:02.54AnduinLotharbut then, in wow i turn off the music and play itunes the whole time
20:02.55zenzelezzWC2 had great music too, I still go around whistling some of them
20:02.57Chaotic_Dit is VERY repetitive.
20:03.53sag_ich_nicht...starcraft II better have damn good music like starcraft did
20:03.56RobTheDudeI remember when I first turned ambient noise off... it was like suddenly recovering from a 5-year headache
20:04.06Chaotic_DUT2006 had a few really excellent tracks. although I think they were all in addon packs.
20:04.18CidanShirik|AFK, what happened?
20:04.24AnduinLotharfps music is diff tho
20:04.36AnduinLotharit's constantly heart thumping adrenaline music
20:04.44Chaotic_DI have one called Sunkissed that I just can't find the creator of.
20:04.49AnduinLotharyou can't listen to that for 4 hour raids
20:05.00Chaotic_Dno way. Sunkissed is nice happy calm music.
20:05.09sag_ich_nichtthat song has the best use of the WoW music imho
20:05.17CidanMorrowind/Oblivion had some of the best music too
20:06.04Cidanalso, I just did the impossible
20:06.09sag_ich_nichto rly?
20:06.12CidanI was playing BF2142, and I got invited into a squad
20:06.15sag_ich_nichtdie as a resto shaman?
20:06.20CidanThere was only one person in this squad.
20:06.25leethalI'm trying to grok this 'UIPanelWindows' system. is there any guides around? A veeeeewwy simple addon that uses it that I can poke around with? Any ideas?
20:06.28CidanA girl, who kicked major ass.
20:06.39sag_ich_nichtCidan
20:06.44sag_ich_nichti am sorry
20:06.45CidanI saw a girl playing BF2142 who kicks ass at it.
20:06.45sag_ich_nichtbut
20:06.48Chaotic_DI liked most of the music for Phantasy Star Online and Final Fantasy X...
20:06.48sag_ich_nichti have to say:
20:06.53sag_ich_nichtYOU ARE A DAMN LIAR
20:06.56Cidannope
20:07.02sag_ich_nicht~whaleslap Cidan
20:07.03purlACTION beats Cidan upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
20:07.03CidanWe were on voice chat and all
20:07.06sag_ich_nichtbut you speak of the impossible!
20:07.24CidanI too once thought it was impossible
20:07.29Cidanbut it was like dancing
20:07.44CidanI planted the RDX on the tank while she distracted
20:07.48Cidan*boom*
20:08.12zenzelezzRDX?
20:08.23Cidanan explosive
20:08.26Cidanlike C4
20:09.13Chaotic_Doh! I know a game that has music I like! Shin Megami Tensei - Nocturne
20:09.26Chaotic_DNever played it. just stumbled upon the music.
20:09.50zenzelezzthe Hitman games usually have pretty good music
20:10.33Chaotic_Dreminds me of CastleVania or something.
20:10.44RallionFinal Fantasy X...is there any game I have such mixed feelings about?
20:10.45RallionNo.
20:11.16Chaotic_DI don't have the patience for RPGs anymore. :S I wanted to play FFX but meh.
20:11.53CidanFFX is fun
20:11.57Corrodiasi want to play other games, but... but...
20:11.59CidanFFXII was... long
20:12.05Corrodiasi'd ... i'd have to stop levelling my priest
20:12.09CidanFFX was the last RPG I played that I could play from start to finish
20:12.24RallionI'm so close to beating XII
20:12.27CidanNever even beat Oblivion
20:12.29RallionI LOVE XII.
20:12.36CidanNor XII, which I do love XII
20:12.43RallionOblivion...dammit, Oblivion isn't even that good
20:12.50Corrodiasno, no it isn't
20:12.50Cidanmost people need to play until they get the uh, whatchamacallits
20:12.59CidanMist thingies
20:13.02zenzelezzI never beat Oblivion either, but I sucked at it... all I did was sneak up on enemies and keep backstabbing so they'd end up in a position where they still wouldn't see me, and repeat until they died
20:13.04RallionIt's like Morrowind, but smaller and everybody looks creepy
20:13.06zenzelezzdidn't work well after a while
20:13.07CorrodiasOblivion IS good. just not -that- good.
20:13.12Chaotic_DI don't think I ever beat Dragon Warrior 2 or 4. I did beat 1 and 3 though. I can't believe how many games I've gotten near the end but never beat.
20:13.22CidanI liked Oblivion, a lot.  I liked Morrowind too.
20:13.35CidanShame the world was so much smaller
20:13.49Cidanand the story was a bit... eh, console-ish
20:13.58zenzelezzthe game was consoleish
20:14.03Rallionyes.
20:14.05Corrodiasyour mom is consolish
20:14.13RallionI didn't like the 'meet people at night' stuff in it
20:14.18RallionI hated waiting for the right time
20:14.19Cidanit was fine when you got some nice patches
20:14.23Rallionit was like Majora's Mask
20:14.27Chaotic_DI tried to get into Morrowind but it was very unfriendly. I had no idea where to go or what to do. everything I did would get me killed. nothing seemed to matter.
20:14.27Cidanand/or mods
20:14.39CidanChaotic_D, that's just it, it's open.
20:14.42zenzelezzChaotic_D: same
20:14.45CidanChaotic_D, you can do what you want to do.
20:14.54CidanIt's very much a real man's RPG
20:14.54Chaotic_Dthere's a difference between open and lost.
20:14.55RallionAlso, the default enemy leveling thing in Oblivion is really, really annoying. Really.
20:14.59CidanNaw, not lost
20:15.08Chaotic_Dyes, I was lost. :)
20:15.11CidanJust like in real life, there are no markers on a map to tell you where to go.
20:15.18CidanReal life must suck for you then. :P
20:15.18RallionI've played a lot of open games where I felt much less lost
20:15.21Chaotic_Dreality makes for borring games.
20:15.28RallionThe Exile/Avernum, series, for example
20:15.36Cidanooo
20:15.37CidanExile
20:15.38Cidan:D
20:15.45RallionAwesome to the max!
20:15.48CidanVery much
20:15.57Cidanso few people played Exile
20:15.59Corrodiasi haven't heard of this
20:16.07RallionThe Avernum series is just like a rewrite of Exile
20:16.13Cidanis it?
20:16.16Rallionyeah
20:16.16CidanNever played it
20:16.26Cidanman, never ever ever met anyone else who played Exile
20:16.28Corrodiasoh, dear. old.
20:16.34CidanExile 2 is the best, IMO.
20:17.08RallionAvernum is actually NOT old, just...2D
20:17.17Cidanman, now I totally want to play Exile 2/3 again
20:17.28Corrodiasthe wikipedia article says, "The Exile trilogy was very well-received"
20:17.28zenzelezzI'm still hoping for a Little Big Adventure 3
20:17.35Rallionthe newest Avernum (4) is using a different engine, and I enjoy it less
20:17.38Corrodiaswell-received by about 5 people, by the sound of it :(
20:17.42Rallionsadly.
20:17.56CidanIt was one of the best RPG's of old
20:17.58Cidanfor PC
20:18.05AnduinLothari played avernum for a while, was cool
20:18.05Ralliontruly
20:18.11CidanI played this sucker on my 66Mhz PC
20:18.14Rallionhehe
20:18.17RallionI think I did too
20:18.45CidanWhat is Avernum about?
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20:19.44Rallionit's a series of RPGs with tactical battles that takes place (mostly) in a large underground cave network called Avernum
20:19.52RallionReally.
20:19.57RallionIt's an Exile rewrite.
20:20.04RallionThe general map is even the same
20:20.23Rallion3 is above ground though
20:20.29Rallionand I don't think there was an Exile 4
20:20.37CidanBlades of Exile
20:20.41Cidanwas Exile 4
20:21.03RallionWell, there's also a Blades of Avernum
20:21.06Rallionas well as Avernum 4
20:21.11Cidanlol
20:21.22RallionAvernum 4 uses the same engine as Spiderweb's other big series, Geneforge
20:21.39Rallionbut they just remade ANOTHER old game, Nethergate, and used the old Avernum engine...
20:21.44Rallionthis is making my head huty
20:21.46Rallionhurt
20:22.23CidanI wish he would remake Exile
20:22.26CidanThat would own so har.d
20:22.30Cidanhard, even
20:22.31Rallionhe did!
20:22.34Rallionit's Avernum!
20:22.39CidanI mean in name, :P
20:22.48Rallionlol
20:22.48CidanI mean, does Avernum have the same plot?
20:22.53RallionIIRC, yes
20:23.31Rallionyou start in that town, with a guy names Tor who gives you weapons, and there's a path leading north out of it with some goblin (or kobolds or whatever) caves to the east...
20:23.52Rallionthe town's name is different though
20:23.55CidanI still have my Exile 2 install from... 14+ years ago
20:23.58CidanH:\Exile 2
20:23.59Rallionniiice
20:24.03Cidansurvived all this time
20:24.09Cidanacross three hard drives
20:24.15foxlitAt what point do the spell cooldowns become available to the client?
20:24.26Cidanfoxlit, eh?
20:24.32foxlitLoading process :)
20:26.04Rallionthe Avernum demo is pretty large, by the way
20:26.26AnduinLotharI <3 ambrosia sw
20:26.51AnduinLotharall their demos are almsot full versions
20:27.10AnduinLotharshareware style
20:28.00zenzelezzI miss playing Death Rally in school
20:28.23zenzelezzexcept for the school part
20:28.25Cidanoh, it's a literal upgrade of exile
20:28.27Cidanneat?
20:28.59RallionI'm now definitely going to replay the whole avernum series. no question.
20:29.35Rallion...as soon as I beat Bioshock, replay Metroid Prime 1, play Metroid Prime 2, and then in a few days buy Metroid Prime 3 and beat that.
20:29.48RallionAlso, restarting school.
20:29.59Cidanlol
20:30.01Cidanoh yeah
20:30.03Cidanmetroid this monday
20:30.04Cidanwoo
20:30.34RallionI happen to have tuesday and wednesday off work :)
20:30.43Rallionthat's just luck, too
20:30.46Rallionnay! providence.
20:30.48Chaotic_DI wish they'd make an MMO where you could change the landscape by excavating, building roads and buildings, planting trees... different kinds of soil, soil erosion, insufficient nutrients for certain plants. @_@; or having invading enemies overrun a town so that you could no longer go there unless you beat them back with an army of players.
20:31.03foxlitHah, ouch
20:31.12Rallionokay, so, that first part, that was crazy geeky and weird
20:31.15Chaotic_Dthere's never going to be an MMO with soil erosion.
20:31.20Rallionthe second part was good.
20:31.20foxlitMy spell localization code was running on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD
20:31.29CorrodiasConstruction Worker Online?
20:31.51Chaotic_Dheh.
20:31.55zenzelezzI heard Ultima Online had an eco system at first... which broke down as soon as players were introduced
20:32.13Chaotic_Dold MMO is old.
20:32.27foxlitI can't catch SPELLS_CHANGED
20:32.46foxlitIs wiki lying to me about the existance of that?
20:32.52foxlit(http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_that_fire_during_the_Loading_Process)
20:32.57Corrodiassounds fine until 80% of the players destroy anything made by the other 20%
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20:33.24Chaotic_Dwell that's why you would need a complete system, so that there would be like law-enforcement to discourage such things.
20:33.54Corrodiasby other playes?
20:33.59Chaotic_DI dunno.
20:34.03Corrodias*players
20:34.20zenzelezzwould be hard to make such things coexist well with the game's story
20:34.26Corrodiasif you don't let them do what they want, then you're limiting the value of such a system of freedoms. if you make it depend on the players to police it, you are going to have chaos.
20:34.42Chaotic_Deh. probably somewhere in between.
20:35.07Chaotic_Dmake it hard for them to ruin the whole world, but make it so they can have their ghetto slum cities if they want.
20:35.42Chaotic_Dyeah. WoW isn't the place for anywhere near that level of realism.
20:35.54Chaotic_DI wasn't suggesting that.
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20:36.56Chaotic_DI just remember playing Ryzom and thinking... the Kami tell us not to abuse the land, but really, it's part of the game, and even if we harvest the land roughly, it has absolutely no effect on ANYTHING. the Kami don't even get angry at you.
20:37.52Mr_Rabies2tugboattugboattugboattugboattugboattugboat
20:38.27Chaotic_DI mean... as a nature-lover in WoW, (uhhh, druid??) you don't even get in trouble for killing innocent neutral animals. but the story in WoW really isn't related to the gameplay. :S
20:40.47Corrodiasinteresting... sometimes, when i gain my clearcasting buff, it doesn't show up in the combat log
20:41.22Corrodiasi hear the sound, but no buff
20:41.32Corrodiaswell, get no buff
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20:42.10Chaotic_Dso in addition to not showing up in the combat log, it doesn't give you the free spell? perhaps there's lag, and it used it on the last spell you cast.
20:42.22Chaotic_Dno wait, it would still show up in the log.
20:42.25Corrodiasi do ge tthe free spell
20:43.02CidanRallion, eh, dunno, I prefer Exile TBH
20:43.08Cidanjust something about Exile that I like
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20:59.35Mr_Rabies2hrm
20:59.45Mr_Rabies2wowdigger doesn't have my realm for the character thing
20:59.46Mr_Rabies2O_o
21:01.55foxlitfs
21:01.55foxlitWHy doesn't SPELLS_CHANGED fire during loading?
21:02.10Mr_Rabies2welp
21:02.18Mr_Rabies2this doesn't seem to be very professional
21:02.20Mr_Rabies2http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-dairy_creamer
21:02.30Mr_Rabies2ps. Non-dairy creamer is extremely flammable.
21:04.11bleetersounds like a pron film
21:04.37Mr_Rabies2sounds like an addition to coffee for me
21:04.47Mr_Rabies2then again i'm not a crazy aussie
21:04.48Mr_Rabies2:P
21:05.27bleeter... who just woke up
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22:37.42ScytheBlade1hehe, Kaydeethree: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=1272278054&postId=12718638320&sid=1#13
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22:42.51Shirikso.... I'm seriously considering getting vista right now
22:42.57Shiriksomeone give me a reason not to
22:42.58Thunder_Childgratz
22:43.08Kaydeethreeaudio's busted on 2.2 in vista?
22:43.16Kaydeethreethe fact that SP1 isn't out yet?
22:43.17Shirikheh, they won't release it like that
22:43.20Shirikthat's not a valid reason :P
22:43.22Thunder_Childumm...you dont have a DX10 rdy vid card?
22:43.30Kaydeethreesure it is. I refused to touch xp until sp1 came out
22:43.35CidanThunder_Child, so?
22:43.36Shirikno, that was at your first reason
22:43.57Thunder_Childcant take advantage of DX 10 in games
22:44.04Shirikyou can't in XP either?
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22:44.11ShirikI don't see how that matters ><
22:44.42Thunder_Childwhat part of vista do you not want ok..for me, thats a big part
22:44.44Cidanand instead of reinstalling down the line again when he gets a DX10 card
22:44.54Cidanhe can install now
22:45.00ShirikThunder_Child: The fact that I don't have anything else, pretty much
22:45.31Shirikcurrently XP is not an option as Asus has done something that has completely busted the drivers; they don't work when installing XP SP1 anymore
22:45.39ShirikMy guess is they only work for SP2
22:45.44Shirikif they work at all
22:45.48Thunder_Childlets try this another way, whats prompting you to want to switch to vista?
22:45.51ShirikVista supports it out of the box
22:45.54Thunder_Childah
22:46.05Thunder_Childwhats wrong with SP2?
22:46.55Shirikthe fact that I don't have it
22:47.05Thunder_Child...so download it....
22:48.21Shirikno, I need it on the installation disk
22:48.38ShirikI cannot load the HDD drivers without SP2 (from what I can tell)
22:49.03Shirikand furthermore, this is only a guess (an edjucated one, but a guess nonetheless)
22:49.14Thunder_Childso pick up xp w/ sp2
22:49.57Thunder_Childjust torren one to see if it works...part of the msdn collection
22:50.00Thunder_Childtorrent*
22:50.08ShirikI have no MSDN subscription
22:50.09zenzelezzwas that typo in "education" intentional?
22:50.21Shirikedjucated?
22:50.25Thunder_Childthats where the torrent comes in
22:50.27Shirikoh whoops
22:50.58zenzelezzof course I failed too, but that's besides the point
22:52.23Shirikso I think I'm going to do it
22:52.36Shirikhm
22:52.39ShirikI have the money so..
22:53.17Shirikbut here's what I'm confused about -- I thought Vista had a 64 bit and a 32 bit os?
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22:53.26Thunder_Childthey do
22:53.34Shirikare they both sold together in the same box?
22:53.38Thunder_Childthey can be
22:53.40Shirikbecause I don't see any difference
22:53.50Shirik(looking at circuit city atm)
22:55.20Thunder_Childhttp://www.viosoftware.com/Windows+Vista/
22:56.22Industrialhttp://torrentz.com/search?q=windows+vista+ultimate
22:56.24Thunder_Childyes, looks like the standard ones come with both
22:56.30Industrial:D?
22:56.39Thunder_Child"Includes 32-bit and 64-bit DVDs"
22:57.01Thunder_Childi bought the OEM though, only comes with 32-bit....still way cheaper
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23:44.50Thrae>> math.log(10000), math.log(10)
23:45.08ThraeWhat was Cide's Lua trigger again?
23:46.01ThraeNevermind
23:46.35Cide>>>
23:47.22ShirikI fail at installing Vista. Not because the software is too complex
23:47.28ShirikBut rather because I can't figure out how to open the box
23:48.24Shirikoh
23:48.26Rallionhard plastic, right?
23:48.29Shirikremoving the big sticker on the top helps
23:48.32Shirikgot it >.>
23:48.39Rallionhuzzah!
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