| 00:05.58 | Linera | so i guess there is no up to date SciTE-WOWInterface/ |
| 00:06.28 | Tain | It is up to date |
| 00:07.01 | Linera | updated last on 07-19-2006 09:02 PM |
| 00:07.20 | Linera | doesn't look up to date to me |
| 00:07.28 | zenzelezz | is it not working? |
| 00:08.04 | Karrion | it's an editor, it doesn't need to be updated that often |
| 00:08.52 | Linera | new stuff is added to coding so it would need to be updated |
| 00:09.03 | zenzelezz | not necessarily |
| 00:09.25 | Karrion | the language doesn't change |
| 00:09.28 | Tain | Definitely need another drink. |
| 00:09.40 | Linera | and i know that this was before BC |
| 00:09.47 | zenzelezz | so? |
| 00:09.51 | zenzelezz | it's still Lua |
| 00:09.57 | Linera | and blizz made a ton of addon changes |
| 00:10.13 | Karrion | even wow 2.0, which changed from one version of lua to a slightly newer one, didn't involve changes to the underlying syntax, which is all the editor knows about |
| 00:10.30 | Tain | It actually doesn't matter in this case, Linera. |
| 00:10.34 | zenzelezz | unless Scite does function insight or something then it doesn't matter at all |
| 00:10.48 | Tain | I use SciTE and loves it. |
| 00:11.27 | Linera | WTF? it won't keep the window where i placed it |
| 00:11.37 | Linera | looks bugged to me |
| 00:11.56 | zenzelezz | eh? |
| 00:12.06 | Karrion | heh, did you read the description on wowi download page for it? tells you how to work around that. |
| 00:12.26 | Linera | no |
| 00:13.21 | TC_Working | ~moo |
| 00:13.26 | purl | mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/moo/ and http://www.riddleme.com/html/cow2.html |
| 00:13.51 | Tain | All hail Man-Eating Cow! |
| 00:17.24 | Linera | How can I find the number to type in for position its currently in? |
| 00:18.59 | Tain | 42. The number is definitely 42. |
| 00:19.27 | Linera | ??? |
| 00:19.30 | Karrion | you'll probably have to guess. I'm assuming it's in pixels, and you know your screen resolution (eg 1024x768, 1600x1200), so just take an approximate number based on that |
| 00:19.59 | cladhaire | the Ui resolution is always the same pixel resolution |
| 00:20.02 | cladhaire | if that's what your'e talking about |
| 00:20.07 | cladhaire | i.e. always 1027x768 for that aspect ratio |
| 00:21.50 | Karrion | nah, we're talking the placement of the SciTE window in windows, not an ingame ui element |
| 00:21.50 | cladhaire | ah |
| 00:21.50 | cladhaire | <3 =) |
| 00:21.56 | TC_Working | Linera, if you didnt get 42 you need to go read hitchhikers guide to the galaxy a few more times |
| 00:22.19 | Linera | Never heard of it |
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| 00:22.37 | TC_Working | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker's_Guide_to_the_Galaxy |
| 00:22.56 | Linera | :( no tutorials on lua |
| 00:22.59 | TC_Working | was also a movie....though it could have been better |
| 00:23.19 | Linera | why hasn't anyone made a tutorial? |
| 00:23.59 | Karrion | http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaTutorial |
| 00:24.51 | foxlit | www.wowwiki.com/HOWTOs |
| 00:25.08 | Karrion | (which, by the way, was the first result from a google seach "lua tutorial") |
| 00:25.59 | Karrion | yeah the h2g2 movie wasn't great |
| 00:26.14 | Linera | why don't they just put the tutorial on a wow site instead of its own site? |
| 00:26.35 | Linera | sounds stupid to make a site just for the lua tutorial |
| 00:26.39 | foxlit | ~addonkit |
| 00:26.47 | purl | Located at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 00:26.47 | foxlit | ~framexml |
| 00:26.51 | purl | get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 00:26.59 | foxlit | They did. |
| 00:27.51 | Linera | I don't get why blizzard did such a stupid thing and even waste money by making a site just for lua tutorial |
| 00:28.29 | Mikk | Linera.... |
| 00:28.34 | Mikk | Get your facts straight |
| 00:28.52 | Karrion | lua wasn't invented by blizzard |
| 00:28.54 | Mikk | Lua is a standalone language, invented LONG before Blizzard started using it. |
| 00:29.07 | Linera | I've never seen it |
| 00:29.27 | TC_Working | just because you havent seen it, doesnt mean it doesnt exist |
| 00:29.43 | Linera | i didn't see it even when i search programming stuff |
| 00:30.26 | Karrion | it's not as well known as many other languages, it's fairly niche |
| 00:30.27 | Linera | I saw a site one time listing every programming out there everything from C++ to GML(GameMaker) |
| 00:30.47 | Linera | and i know lua was not on there |
| 00:31.02 | Linera | since it was a fairly small list |
| 00:31.10 | Karrion | it would be impossible to make such a list complete |
| 00:31.23 | TC_Working | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetical_list_of_programming_languages |
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| 00:31.33 | Linera | there is not that many, only like 10 maybe 15 |
| 00:31.46 | Karrion | hahahaha there's way more than that |
| 00:31.48 | foxlit | Stop before you hurt yourself :) |
| 00:32.29 | Linera | :? |
| 00:35.03 | Mikk | Yeah that's more like it |
| 00:35.12 | Mikk | They're missing two programming languages that I've invented though |
| 00:35.13 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:35.23 | cladhaire | Mikk: All you ever do is bitch =) |
| 00:35.23 | cladhaire | WB |
| 00:35.29 | cladhaire | I feel like you've been gone.. |
| 00:35.32 | cladhaire | i could be mistaken =) |
| 00:35.34 | Mikk | I have :> |
| 00:35.35 | cladhaire | but i'ev missed you =) |
| 00:35.52 | Mikk | I rolled a druid and figured I'd just play "casually" |
| 00:35.54 | Mikk | HAH |
| 00:35.58 | Karrion | my favourites on that list are brainf*ck and Befunge, turing machines ftw |
| 00:36.02 | cladhaire | haha |
| 00:36.05 | foxlit | Moo! |
| 00:36.05 | Nom- | <3 Coffeee |
| 00:36.11 | Mikk | Before I knew it the bugger was 60, had epic mount, and what not |
| 00:36.19 | foxlit | Moo! Moo. Moo! Moo, Moo, Moo! |
| 00:36.30 | Mikk | It's a nelf, btw :> |
| 00:36.32 | cladhaire | lol |
| 00:36.34 | cladhaire | well i support druids |
| 00:36.35 | cladhaire | EEW |
| 00:36.37 | cladhaire | not nelfs tho |
| 00:36.41 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOO_programming_language |
| 00:36.42 | Mikk | butbut |
| 00:36.46 | Linera | doesn't look like this lua is wow info stuff |
| 00:36.49 | Linera | :( |
| 00:36.49 | Karrion | /em makes the sign of the Cross at Mikk |
| 00:36.58 | Mikk | liek |
| 00:37.01 | Mikk | all my toons are alliance |
| 00:37.07 | Mikk | had to pick a nelf :/ |
| 00:37.19 | Mikk | does it help if it's a chickz0r? |
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| 00:37.45 | Karrion | no, no it doesn't >.> |
| 00:37.45 | Mikk | (it was a male for a dozen levels but i couldn't stand the running animation. had to delete and reroll.) |
| 00:38.03 | Mikk | :< |
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| 00:38.42 | Mikk | anyway, i'm tanking my way through Outland now. way too much fun. |
| 00:39.20 | Mikk | so, yeah, that's why you haven't seen much of me lately =) |
| 00:39.41 | Mikk | pardon if there hasn't been enough bitching here of late :> |
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| 00:41.49 | Karrion | druids are fine, as long as they're tauren ones ;-) |
| 00:42.01 | Mikk | no shit. wtb warstomp. |
| 00:42.13 | Nom- | NELFs are hot |
| 00:42.22 | Tain | MILFs? |
| 00:42.23 | Mikk | shadowmeld wasn't much use to a druid that can just go cat and prowl :< |
| 00:42.27 | Thrae | While I'd rather be a Tauren, I don't mind being a Night Elf that much. In fact, it makes it easier with my backstory. Of course I'd rather have Warstomp, but Maim'll help fix it. |
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| 00:42.47 | Thrae | Mikk: Adds +1 to stealth for questing and PvP, which can be very useful. |
| 00:42.56 | Nom- | Tain: I was considering going there, but I decided against it in the interest of protecting the children. |
| 00:43.10 | Mikk | Did I mention that she's ferlol and has maxed stealth talent? =P |
| 00:43.12 | Tain | I believe that children are our future. |
| 00:43.18 | Karrion | I think any children in this channel are beyond protecting |
| 00:43.20 | Tain | Namely, my future ex-wife. |
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| 00:44.24 | Nom- | lol Tain |
| 00:44.37 | Nom- | (immune) |
| 00:46.49 | Tain | Conjunction junction, what's your function? |
| 00:47.00 | Karrion | Linera: I know there's a lot, the lua stuff will teach you the syntax of the language, and the list of functions made available by WoW is all on wowwiki. At some point you will need to learn to at least read the xml stuff too. |
| 00:47.01 | Linera | huh? |
| 00:47.08 | Tierrie|Work | I am kind of waiting for Linera to keep asking question |
| 00:47.25 | Linera | WTF, Tain??? |
| 00:47.43 | Linera | Tain, that makes no sense |
| 00:48.33 | Tain | It makes perfect sense to me. Look it up on the interwebs. |
| 00:48.58 | Linera | it makes no sense |
| 00:48.59 | TC_Working | damit tain, stop with the random quotes |
| 00:49.22 | Linera | that was no quote. |
| 00:49.23 | Tierrie|Work | hey Linera did you take programming in college? |
| 00:49.27 | Linera | no |
| 00:49.53 | Tierrie|Work | AP programming in highschool maybe? |
| 00:49.59 | Linera | I know GML and thats it |
| 00:50.15 | Tierrie|Work | whats GML |
| 00:50.28 | TC_Working | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Maker_Language |
| 00:50.37 | Linera | I took visual C++ in highschool, but it was only a half a year and we barely did anything in it |
| 00:51.00 | Linera | so i don't know any visual c++ |
| 00:52.50 | Linera | :( |
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| 00:57.19 | Linera | a wow lua tut would be nice |
| 00:57.27 | MentalPower | Hmm... so only Java 1.6 works on Vista |
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| 00:57.41 | MentalPower | Linera: theres a wow tut, and a lua tut, not both |
| 00:58.05 | MentalPower | wow tut: www.wowwiki.com lua tut: www.lua.org/pil |
| 00:58.29 | Corrodias | king tut: Egypt |
| 00:58.31 | Linera | I meant a tut for wow lua programming |
| 00:58.51 | Corrodias | you mean specifically how to use Lua in WoW? |
| 00:58.57 | MentalPower | your best bet is wowwiki |
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| 00:59.38 | MentalPower | FLEE!! |
| 00:59.40 | MentalPower | HIDE!!! |
| 00:59.41 | Corrodias | it makes a great reference, although just looking at simple addons to see how they work is a good start, if you're familiar with several programming languages already |
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| 01:03.47 | Linera | I only know GML |
| 01:07.46 | Corrodias | your first step should then be to become more familiar with Lua. |
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| 01:09.54 | JoshBorke | the first step is ALWAYS to write the next great thing |
| 01:10.28 | Kirov | If your first addon isn't at least 25 thousand lines of lua, you've failed. |
| 01:11.10 | Industrial | take an addon (small) |
| 01:11.14 | Industrial | assume it sucks |
| 01:11.17 | Industrial | try to do it yourself |
| 01:11.22 | JoshBorke | 25 thousand?! why, back in my day it 50 thousand |
| 01:11.23 | Kirov | And always make sure that your first addon is downloaded more times in it's first month of release than Atlas in it's entire lifetime. |
| 01:11.26 | JoshBorke | you youngin's have it easy |
| 01:11.48 | Kirov | JoshBorke - Yes, we moved from Cosmos to Ace2 |
| 01:12.08 | Industrial | oh and read the PIL book and have the manual and wowwiki open at all times |
| 01:12.24 | Industrial | all set. |
| 01:12.46 | zenzelezz | also helps to have the addon you're trying to clone handy |
| 01:12.50 | zenzelezz | I mean... learn from |
| 01:13.07 | Industrial | improve* |
| 01:13.09 | Industrial | :P |
| 01:13.10 | Kirov | I write all my addons using a merge tool. |
| 01:13.10 | Tain | Having the PiL open at all times when coding is a necessity. |
| 01:13.25 | Industrial | lol Kirov |
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| 01:14.19 | JoshBorke | ~taint |
| 01:14.20 | purl | ACTION calls a few functions and nothing is secure any longer. |
| 01:14.29 | Tain | Stop that. ;( |
| 01:14.53 | Industrial | is it me or do eleks have slow fall? :P |
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| 01:15.01 | zipper | I'm working on a spell reflect macro (warrior), is there a way to check if that spell is on cooldown? |
| 01:15.13 | Kirov | Every time purl does that I feel insecure. |
| 01:15.45 | Daksafiya | whats a good addon I can make? |
| 01:15.52 | Kirov | zipper - yes, but not in the line of the macro that actually casts the spell. |
| 01:16.11 | Kirov | zipper - ie: you can't cast / not cast based on if the spell is castable. |
| 01:16.44 | Daksafiya | thats...gay |
| 01:16.59 | Kirov | Daksafiya - Make a unit frame addon. There're aren't enough of those yet. |
| 01:17.03 | Industrial | welcome to 2.0 |
| 01:17.06 | Cide | that's not a sexual preference as far as I know |
| 01:17.06 | Linera | :| |
| 01:17.17 | Daksafiya | unit frame? |
| 01:17.27 | Kirov | Cide - *blink*\ |
| 01:17.28 | Linera | stupid google |
| 01:17.29 | Industrial | since when is gay a sexual preference? |
| 01:17.38 | Industrial | oh wai, the 80s :P |
| 01:17.49 | zipper | Kirov, hmm, okay |
| 01:18.34 | zipper | Kirov, i think i have it working, now i just need to figure out a good way to re-equip the weapon after spell reflect has been cast |
| 01:19.16 | Linera | google is being dumb again :| |
| 01:19.32 | Kirov | Daksafiya - ignore me, I'm a cynical / sarcastic bastard |
| 01:19.43 | Corrodias | it'salmost as if... clearfont2 is making my UI scale setting (0.9) apply to fonts |
| 01:19.49 | zipper | hints anyone? |
| 01:20.37 | Kirov | zipper - you want to equip your weapon at some delay? |
| 01:20.57 | Kirov | Or just reequip it imediately after attempting to cast |
| 01:21.40 | Tierrie|Work | i am considering leveling my priest holy |
| 01:21.46 | Tierrie|Work | 60-70 |
| 01:22.18 | zipper | the best would be to equip my weapon only if the spell is successfully cast, but i guess if thats not possible, re-equipping it imediately is what i'm looking for |
| 01:22.21 | Thrae | You can't equip a weapon then cast a spell in the same function or macro. Equipping a weapon triggers the global cooldown anyway. |
| 01:22.42 | zipper | Thrae, seems like you can |
| 01:22.43 | Daksafiya | oh well - back to you know what |
| 01:22.49 | Daksafiya | ...the drug that rulesmy life! |
| 01:22.58 | zenzelezz | porn? |
| 01:22.58 | Tierrie|Work | which drug is it |
| 01:23.06 | Thrae | Well yeah you can equip a weapon -after- you cast a spell, but not -before-. |
| 01:23.11 | Daksafiya | World of Warcrack |
| 01:23.50 | Tierrie|Work | i take it as a suppository |
| 01:24.01 | Tain | World of Whorecraft? |
| 01:24.09 | Corrodias | i need to talk to Kirkburn agan |
| 01:24.22 | Corrodias | is there a function i can call to determine the current UI scale? |
| 01:24.30 | Tain | Look Kirkburn told you, your forbidden love cannnot be. |
| 01:24.33 | Thrae | I guess you might be able to equip a weapon then cast a spell / run a different macro, but it would require two keypresses. |
| 01:24.58 | Nom- | fear my level 34 blood elf paladin |
| 01:25.05 | Nom- | I'll tap your mana, biatch :P |
| 01:25.29 | Thrae | Corrodias: wowwiki has the function. You can always do UIParent:GetScale() too. |
| 01:25.30 | Nom- | Level 36 tonight, 40 tomorrow :P |
| 01:25.32 | Nom- | I can do et |
| 01:25.34 | zipper | Thrae, so equipping shield, cast spell reflect, and then equip weapon isnt possible? |
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| 01:26.17 | Thrae | zipper: No, because you cannot equip a weapon during global cooldown, and equipping a weapon triggers global cooldown. |
| 01:26.37 | zipper | cant i just delay it then? |
| 01:26.41 | Thrae | zipper: It would have to be three keypresses. |
| 01:26.44 | Karrion | actually I think you can equip a weapon during global cooldown |
| 01:27.02 | Nom- | Does anyone know if there's a Procs per Minute limit on SoW/JoW ? |
| 01:27.02 | Karrion | but you certainly can cast in the global cooldown that equipping starts |
| 01:27.03 | Thrae | Equipping a weapon causes global cooldown, so it must be a bug if you can |
| 01:27.15 | Tem | anyone know of any open source apps like norton ghost? |
| 01:27.30 | Thrae | Karrion: Odd, I can't |
| 01:28.07 | zipper | Tem, not sure what you want to do, but can't you just use "dd" for the purpose? |
| 01:28.29 | zipper | to make an image of a whole partition |
| 01:28.33 | Tem | I want to create an image of my ubuntu install |
| 01:28.44 | Karrion | hmm, might have changed? used to be no problem to change from 2h to sword and board when switching stances, but the switch would trigger more cooldown |
| 01:29.08 | zipper | Tem, been a while since i played around with "dd" but i definately think that it can do that |
| 01:29.28 | Thrae | Karrion: Yeah they changed that a while back to prevent people for that exact reason, switching with stance changes. Only in combat I think. |
| 01:29.29 | Karrion | dd will work, but be careful on journalled filesystems |
| 01:29.43 | zipper | Karrion, why? |
| 01:29.48 | Thrae | Tem: Google Hiren's Boot CD |
| 01:30.02 | zipper | since its a copy of the entire partition, journaling shouldnt be a problem should it? |
| 01:30.17 | Karrion | last time I tried it on ext3 I had to remove and recreate the journal on the destination |
| 01:30.33 | zipper | hmm |
| 01:30.59 | zipper | dunno then |
| 01:31.03 | Corrodias | Thrae: i tried to find a function related to scale but didn't see it |
| 01:31.07 | Karrion | not that that's all that big a deal as long as the fs is fully sync'd before you copy it |
| 01:31.10 | Tierrie|Work | Hiren's Boot CD seems to be missing WoW.exe |
| 01:31.11 | Corrodias | but thanks for the suggestion |
| 01:32.07 | zipper | Thrae, you talked about delay earlier... whats the syntax for that? |
| 01:32.46 | Thrae | Corrodias: Maybe I'm wrong, I use UIParent:GetScale() myself. I guess you could also check the cvar, GetCVar("uiscale") |
| 01:32.54 | Corrodias | getscale is working fine, thanks |
| 01:33.04 | Karrion | Thrae: I remember when they made equipping trigger the global cooldown (it's when I stopped using a mod to switch gear for me on stance change), but I was pretty sure I was still able to use my switch macro during the stance change cooldown... maybe it's queuing it up behind my back >.> |
| 01:33.05 | Thrae | zipper: OnUpdate timer |
| 01:33.46 | zipper | so for example: /OnUpdate(1.5) for a delay equal to global cooldown? |
| 01:34.39 | Tem | Thrae, thakns |
| 01:34.41 | Tem | thanks |
| 01:34.47 | Thrae | No, OnUpdate is part of the Frame widget API. You'd have to make an addon for this. Look at wowwiki.com. |
| 01:34.50 | Tem | this will do exactly wht I want |
| 01:35.20 | zipper | sigh |
| 01:35.57 | zipper | i'm way too tired and hungover to go that far |
| 01:36.04 | Thrae | <3 Hiren's Boot CD |
| 01:36.10 | Thrae | I use it at work. |
| 01:36.25 | zipper | thanks though |
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| 01:37.02 | Thrae | zipper: Take a look at ClosetGnome from http://www.wowace.com/files , maybe it or one of the modules can help |
| 01:40.31 | zipper | Thrae, i'll take a look, thanks |
| 01:42.16 | Linera | I think google hates me right now |
| 01:47.36 | zipper | yey, i managed to completely break my macro |
| 01:47.43 | zipper | cant equip or un-equip anything now |
| 01:47.45 | zipper | =S |
| 01:48.44 | zipper | EquipByName is the way to go right? |
| 01:49.18 | Linera | i dunno |
| 01:49.39 | Linera | i only use macros for text in chat, nothing else |
| 01:50.36 | Linera | like /1 or something |
| 01:55.32 | Linera | :( wowwiki has no info on wow lua either :( |
| 01:56.40 | TC_Working | like http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_functions ? |
| 02:00.01 | Linera | i tried that page |
| 02:00.15 | Nom- | Any 60 BE pally's here ? |
| 02:00.16 | Nom- | Or higher |
| 02:00.31 | Linera | like only normal functions you find anywhere in programming |
| 02:02.32 | Nom- | Holy Shield batman |
| 02:02.38 | Nom- | I'll have it this weekend :D |
| 02:03.18 | Nom- | muahaha |
| 02:03.23 | Nom- | level 44: the real hammer of GG |
| 02:03.49 | Nom- | As if HoJ wasn't game over enough |
| 02:08.45 | bleetah | Linera: ?? afaik, 'WoW Lua' = 'Lua minus a few things (eg: os, io) plus a couple of simple appreviations and maybe one or two string functions'. all of which are documented at wowwiki. Unless of course you mean the info extracted by the Interface Kit, which is on your hard drive (assuming you've installed the kit)... or maybe I just totally misunderstood you |
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| 02:12.18 | Linera | I'm talking about a tutorial for wow lua programming |
| 02:20.52 | Cairenn | Linera: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381244&sid=1 |
| 02:22.24 | Linera | thats about frames not lua |
| 02:22.47 | JoshBorke | Linera: there is no lua without frames |
| 02:23.00 | JoshBorke | well, no permanent lua anyway |
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| 02:24.29 | JoshBorke | linera: are you just getting started? |
| 02:25.43 | Linera | yes |
| 02:25.51 | Linera | only programming i know is GML |
| 02:26.22 | JoshBorke | for me, the best thing to do was to decide on what you want to do. what sort of mod you want to write. what functionality you want |
| 02:26.35 | Cairenn | Linera: how you can say the link I gave you is "about frames not lua" when it gives links to multiple multiple different things, I'm really not sure |
| 02:26.45 | Cairenn | that was a link to author resources |
| 02:26.50 | Tain | The truth is out there. |
| 02:27.45 | Cairenn | If you are wanting to use WoW UI Designer, you'd be best to post in his forums: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 |
| 02:27.55 | Linera | a point system for WoW (like dkp) |
| 02:28.28 | Linera | Cairenn, that program appears abanddon |
| 02:28.36 | JoshBorke | Linera: it still works |
| 02:28.42 | Linera | no it doesn't |
| 02:28.47 | Tain | Really your best bet is to do what most people do. Read other peoples addon code and read Programing in Lua. |
| 02:28.48 | Linera | won't let me save |
| 02:29.37 | Gryphen | dissecting other addons and wowwiki is how i learned lua with only php knowledge prior |
| 02:29.37 | Tierrie|Work | test |
| 02:29.37 | Tierrie|Work | christ |
| 02:29.48 | Tierrie|Work | I just tabbed back into IRC and this conversation is like the one we had 2 hours ago |
| 02:29.55 | Tain | ~pil |
| 02:29.57 | purl | i heard pil is Programming in Lua, available as both a paperback book and an online version of the same book available at http://www.lua.org/pil |
| 02:30.00 | bleetah | I could've sworn I left this convo about 3 hours ago |
| 02:30.08 | Linera | I get lost if i try to look at someone else work without know the programming |
| 02:30.40 | Cairenn | and it is far from abandoned, it just hasn't been updated for 2.0 yet, but given the amount of changes that would have to go into it to get it working with 2.0, it's no surprise that it is taking the creator some time to get it "working" again |
| 02:30.54 | JoshBorke | Linera: use wowwiki's howto's to get started on simple things as another option |
| 02:30.55 | Tain | Everybody was KungFu fighting. Those moves were fast as lightning. |
| 02:31.08 | Tierrie|Work | haha Tain's trying to drown out the voices again |
| 02:31.10 | JoshBorke | ~Whomod |
| 02:31.11 | purl | [mod] just Nomad_Wanderer's brain dancing to a tune |
| 02:31.22 | JoshBorke | ~literal whomod |
| 02:31.23 | purl | "mod" is "just Nomad_Wanderer's brain dancing to a tune" |
| 02:31.23 | Tain | I drink to silence the voices in my head. |
| 02:31.41 | Linera | I don't see a how to page on here |
| 02:32.33 | JoshBorke | so if you go to www.wowwiki.com, then click on Interface Customization Menu |
| 02:32.57 | Linera | i'm there and i see no how to section |
| 02:32.57 | JoshBorke | then there is a section labeled HOWTOs, click the more link and peruse those |
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| 02:33.34 | JoshBorke | or a direct link is: http://www.wowwiki.com/Category:HOWTOs |
| 02:33.53 | Tain | um ow my cat just scratched the hell out of my hand when I was petting him. I bet that is going to look really bad tomorrow. |
| 02:34.18 | bleetah | i'm still looking for the bell curve relating to price of automobile to IQ of driver |
| 02:34.25 | bleetah | so I know which cars on the road to avoid |
| 02:34.29 | Linera | ummm, this looks like its for those who know wow lua |
| 02:34.38 | Tain | Avoid the cars that are driven by bad drivers. |
| 02:34.57 | JoshBorke | linera: there is nothing special about wow lua besides the fact that it runs in wow. you can use ANY lua tutorial |
| 02:35.24 | bleetah | Tain: that's the plan, it just seems that the 'bad'ness of a driver would seem to correlate, even if jsut slightly, to the value of the car. if I can work this correlation out, avoiding the dangerous cars will be simple |
| 02:35.39 | JoshBorke | so once you know the syntax of lua, you can begin to learn the specifics of wow lua |
| 02:35.44 | bleetah | well, at least in theory. I'm hoping it's a bell cyrve, but no doubt prolly ends up more like some 1 y/o's drawing |
| 02:36.17 | Linera | :? |
| 02:36.58 | JoshBorke | oh i have an idea! |
| 02:37.03 | JoshBorke | i know of a GREAT how to |
| 02:37.05 | bleetah | So, I've just put on the new Tool album.. I'll let you all know whether it's grind worthy later |
| 02:37.27 | JoshBorke | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon |
| 02:37.38 | Linera | so then how I'm a suppose to go through some lua tutorial and know if it works correctly? |
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| 02:37.47 | JoshBorke | go to that link Linera |
| 02:38.53 | Linera | ummm, it says it requires Ace2 which I don't want any addon i make to require another addon |
| 02:39.06 | Gryphen | lol |
| 02:39.24 | JoshBorke | Linera: it's the best option you have |
| 02:39.50 | kergoth | uhh, ace2 addons generally embed ace2. it wont require another addon. |
| 02:40.05 | Linera | it will require ace2 |
| 02:40.05 | JoshBorke | Linera: the nice thing about Ace2 is it is not a dependency. the Ace2 files will reside inside your addon directory |
| 02:40.32 | Linera | I don't want the person to have to download ace2 just to use my addon |
| 02:40.53 | JoshBorke | they won't |
| 02:41.00 | JoshBorke | you will include all the files you need with your addon |
| 02:41.07 | JoshBorke | it will be within a single directory |
| 02:41.14 | Linera | this tutorial says for the addon to work it will need ace2 |
| 02:41.19 | JoshBorke | linera |
| 02:41.19 | Gryphen | omg |
| 02:41.22 | JoshBorke | please read what i am typing |
| 02:42.33 | JoshBorke | it actually says that it will USE Ace2, not need it. |
| 02:42.47 | Linera | but they'll still need to download the ace2 files to use the addon. I had to do so with a mod made with ace2 |
| 02:42.52 | JoshBorke | no they won't |
| 02:43.00 | JoshBorke | then that mod was improperly made |
| 02:43.17 | JoshBorke | please read the ENTIRE site before making blanket statements |
| 02:43.26 | Tierrie|Work | you know what Tain |
| 02:43.27 | JoshBorke | sorry, entire PAGE, not site |
| 02:43.28 | Tierrie|Work | we should have a sing song |
| 02:43.33 | Gryphen | i think your goal is larger than your patients |
| 02:43.35 | JoshBorke | you're killing me Tierrie|Work:-P |
| 02:43.48 | Gryphen | patience* |
| 02:44.00 | bleetah | mods using Ace2 are like Interface/AddOns/MyNewModUsingAce2/[files.lua, file.toc, Ace2/ace2files.lua] |
| 02:44.05 | ckknight | Linera: you'd actually include Ace2 (or actually only the libraries you need) inside your mod |
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| 02:44.20 | Linera | I am looking at it and it shows where they will be it includes ace2 into the addon |
| 02:44.22 | ckknight | in a libs/ folder |
| 02:44.36 | ckknight | much like shared libraries such as .dlls in windows or .sos in *nix |
| 02:44.50 | Linera | I don't know c++ |
| 02:44.53 | JoshBorke | Gryphen: see, it's a group effort |
| 02:44.58 | JoshBorke | Linera: there is no c++ |
| 02:44.59 | Linera | or even visual c++ |
| 02:45.04 | Linera | I only know GML |
| 02:45.14 | JoshBorke | Linera: no one said anything about C++ |
| 02:45.16 | bleetah | I LIKE CAKE! |
| 02:45.18 | JoshBorke | e |
| 02:45.21 | JoshBorke | oops |
| 02:45.29 | ckknight | what's GML? |
| 02:45.33 | JoshBorke | someone find my homework :-( |
| 02:45.42 | Linera | ckknight did , .dll is c++/visual c++ |
| 02:45.54 | Linera | GML is for Game Maker |
| 02:46.06 | ckknight | Linera: I said that Ace2 libraries were like shared libraries such as .dll or .so |
| 02:46.17 | ckknight | they're shared among multiple addons |
| 02:46.38 | Linera | which means the person would need to download the ace2 addon |
| 02:46.46 | ckknight | no |
| 02:46.48 | ckknight | not at all |
| 02:46.52 | Linera | I have addons that do that |
| 02:46.58 | bleetah | it's held in a subdirectory inside the addon |
| 02:47.01 | ckknight | they're _shared_ libraries. |
| 02:47.03 | ckknight | right, bleetah |
| 02:47.14 | bleetah | if you've got addons that are not like that, they're coded wrong |
| 02:47.28 | ckknight | even bleetah's addons use embedded libraries. :-P |
| 02:47.35 | bleetah | I have no addons |
| 02:47.38 | Corrodias | did somebody say that "permanent visual effects" can be avoided by rebooting every 30 days? |
| 02:47.45 | bleetah | 'cept for the one that I gave to the guild that sends me all their loot ;) |
| 02:47.47 | ckknight | don't you hack up norganna's mods? |
| 02:47.58 | bleetah | no, I *try* to hack them up |
| 02:48.01 | bleetah | huuuge difference ;) |
| 02:48.01 | Thrae | DLLs are Dynamic Link Libraries used by Windows, and they have nothing to do with C++ specifically. They can be coded in other languages too. |
| 02:48.10 | JoshBorke | yea, like assembly!@ |
| 02:48.31 | JoshBorke | keyboards at home take WAY more abuse than keyboards at work... |
| 02:50.31 | Linera | :| |
| 02:50.49 | ckknight | Linera: the libraries are included inside the addons |
| 02:51.03 | ckknight | the libraries are not addons in and of themselves |
| 02:51.51 | ckknight | anyone know how to prevent a sound from playing (without tainting everything up the wazoo)? |
| 02:53.24 | zenzelezz | turn off your speakers |
| 02:53.33 | Tierrie|Work | zenzelezz++ |
| 02:54.01 | Linera | :| |
| 02:54.09 | ckknight | zenzelezz: doesn't work when I don't have control of the user's speakers. |
| 02:54.28 | JoshBorke | turn off the outgoing sound? |
| 02:54.43 | JoshBorke | call the equivalent to a ctrl+s |
| 02:54.49 | Tierrie|Work | I didn't realize sound tainted |
| 02:55.04 | JoshBorke | tain got his hands on it |
| 02:55.07 | JoshBorke | it's too late now |
| 02:55.09 | Tierrie|Work | trying to figure out it would |
| 02:57.45 | JoshBorke | what happens if you completely delete an addon while it's loaded in wow? will wow complain when you reload without exitting? |
| 02:57.57 | JoshBorke | or will the corresponding stuff just drop off the face of the computer? |
| 03:00.45 | TheStig | Does anyone know of a DoT timer that can count the duration of Immoltate so that Conflagulate can be used at the exact moment to maximize damage from Immoltate and Conflagulate? |
| 03:01.02 | Tierrie|Work | nothing Josh |
| 03:01.12 | Tierrie|Work | all the scripts are already in memory |
| 03:01.17 | Tierrie|Work | unless you zone or something, everything will be ok |
| 03:01.28 | JoshBorke | well, that's what i mean. what happens if i zone? |
| 03:01.58 | Tierrie|Work | i don't know |
| 03:02.04 | JoshBorke | TheStig: have you tried Chronometer? |
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| 03:02.06 | Tierrie|Work | possibly nothing |
| 03:02.57 | TheStig | not yet |
| 03:03.03 | TheStig | let me look into it |
| 03:14.34 | Corrodias | i think someone told me once that permanent visual effects, like hurricane's cloud or tranquility's sparkles, can be fixed by rebooting more than once per 30 days |
| 03:14.59 | Corrodias | is anyone familiar with that issue? |
| 03:22.28 | Corrodias | yeah, a quick jaunt around the tech support forum reveals that the lingering effects is still a problem, and has been for so very long |
| 03:22.40 | Corrodias | i'm just amazed that blizzard can't figure out why their effects are lingering when no other game does it |
| 03:22.48 | Widgertick | I think a lot of computer problems can be fixed by rebooting more than once per 30 days. =O |
| 03:23.00 | bleetah | Widgertick++ |
| 03:23.17 | bleetah | most of the rest of the problems can be fixed by deleting the user |
| 03:23.21 | Corrodias | that's... not true at all, at least after windows 98 :/ |
| 03:23.32 | zenzelezz | the only reason I could think of why rebooting more than every 30th day (for that problem) would be if it used Windows' tick count or something for determining when to make the effects go away |
| 03:23.52 | Corrodias | yeah, and -that- doesn't rollover for 49 days, as i recall |
| 03:23.57 | zenzelezz | yeah |
| 03:24.29 | Corrodias | that was just an unfounded rumor i heard, anyway |
| 03:24.36 | Corrodias | none of these forum threads mention such an idea |
| 03:25.01 | bleetah | sounds like pretty deep hardcore issue, and no doubt their really experienced guys have been working on other more pressing issues such as stuff that just flat out works wrong, or not at all |
| 03:25.13 | Corrodias | i suppose blizzard can't get ahold of the source code for ten other games to compare to, though. |
| 03:26.02 | bleetah | most developers would try and work it out with hardware vendors, as they'd be the guys with the heavy duty debuggers that hook onto the card direct |
| 03:26.24 | Widgertick | It'd be interesting to know if people experience the issue on macs |
| 03:26.26 | bleetah | hence, see suggestion above regarding resource allocation during development cycles, etc. |
| 03:26.44 | Corrodias | yeah, yeah. move on and make new stuff, don't fix the old stuff. i know. |
| 03:27.34 | Corrodias | WC still has several mobs falling through the floor |
| 03:27.41 | bleetah | not really, it's not like we are here sitting around giving our time freely |
| 03:27.44 | Corrodias | as far as i can tell, that has been an issue since approximately forever |
| 03:27.50 | bleetah | one has to do a cost/benefit analysis, etc. etc. |
| 03:27.52 | Widgertick | ...wailing caverns? |
| 03:27.55 | Corrodias | yes |
| 03:28.09 | Widgertick | I would rather get new content than a wailing caverns fix =) |
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| 03:28.20 | Corrodias | you and everyone else who isn't affected by the graphics bug |
| 03:28.42 | bleetah | i mean, would you like all the GFX experts at Blizz pulled off everything else to try to track this one bug down that doesn't really effect gameplay? without having any idea where the issue is, it could take them months, etc. etc. |
| 03:28.48 | Widgertick | But it sounds like people who are affected by the graphics bug have a reasonable workaround. O_o |
| 03:29.01 | Corrodias | when you say it really doesn't affect gameplay, you are speaking from inexperience |
| 03:29.30 | Widgertick | That having been said, yay for Blizzard fixing bugs =) |
| 03:29.33 | Corrodias | rebooting when there are too many clouds isn't a workaround |
| 03:29.52 | bleetah | does it result in disconnects? does it hose your character? does it delete items? does it mean the dmg you put out is incorrect? does it bug out mobs/quests? |
| 03:29.54 | Widgertick | Ah, I misunderstood the issue =/ |
| 03:29.57 | Corrodias | it doesn't prevent new permanent effects, just clears old ones. apparently there are major problems in certain raid areas. |
| 03:30.01 | bleetah | those are the sort of things that I mean effect gameplay |
| 03:30.35 | Corrodias | ah. so, just to wonder, if your framerate dropped to single digits and you couldn't see things that are damaging you, would you consider that a gameplay-affecting bug? |
| 03:31.01 | Widgertick | I thought you meant that if you had your computer on without rebooting for more than 30 days then you encountered the issue. |
| 03:31.15 | Corrodias | i heard a rumor that it helps, but apparently it doesn't |
| 03:31.21 | bleetah | yes, that's what I thought you said too |
| 03:31.54 | ^Alleyria-ZzZz | In Config.WTF, Exactly what does SET UIFaster "3" do? |
| 03:32.07 | zenzelezz | makes the UI three times faster |
| 03:32.08 | zenzelezz | ;-p |
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| 03:32.11 | zipper | it sounds like a rumour from inexperienced pc users to be honest |
| 03:32.15 | zipper | the 30 day reboot thingie |
| 03:32.18 | bleetah | even still, they'd need to do cost/benefit analysis. without knowing how many hardcore gfx coders they have, their current tasks, etc., it's impossible to say whether they're poorly allocating resources by not trying to fix it |
| 03:32.47 | zipper | they should just hire more if the problem is manpower |
| 03:32.51 | zenzelezz | it could just be a deeply rooted, hard to find bug |
| 03:32.58 | Corrodias | my question to you is, what other major graphics bugs do you know of? |
| 03:33.22 | Corrodias | what else are these video code devs occupied with? :/ |
| 03:33.56 | bleetah | oh, prolly nothing. no doubt they sit around all day scratching their asses |
| 03:34.17 | Corrodias | ah, my kind of job |
| 03:34.27 | bleetah | <sarcasm/> |
| 03:34.39 | Widgertick | Did they acknowledge it on the bugs forum or anything? |
| 03:34.44 | zenzelezz | <bleetah> <sarcasm/> <--- no wai! |
| 03:34.58 | bleetah | zenzelezz: it was an afterthought :P |
| 03:35.02 | zipper | well, i think its pretty obvious that wow didnt become popular due to good programmers as much as the gameplay and textures |
| 03:35.13 | zipper | perhaps they just have no idea what to do about it? |
| 03:35.16 | Corrodias | oh yeah, it's been acknowledged forever |
| 03:35.23 | Corrodias | but they just don't know what to do about it |
| 03:35.25 | bleetah | the other thing one has to remember, is how bleeding edge WoW really is |
| 03:35.50 | Widgertick | O_o |
| 03:35.53 | bleetah | which introduces a whole pile of probs that we can't even begin to imagine |
| 03:35.53 | zipper | bleetah, continue please |
| 03:36.10 | zipper | what do you mean its "bleeding edge" ? |
| 03:36.11 | Widgertick | Exactly how bleeding edge is WoW's graphic engine >_< |
| 03:36.31 | Corrodias | it's got all those fancy pixel shaders and particle emitters |
| 03:36.32 | zipper | wows graphics engine is everything but bleeding edge afaik |
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| 03:36.41 | zipper | they just managed to produce popular textures |
| 03:36.42 | bleetah | ok, well it's an online transactional system. how many banks do you know have their transactional system contain so many multiple states. |
| 03:36.43 | zenzelezz | eh? |
| 03:37.17 | zenzelezz | I wonder which other MMOs you've played to not recognize WoW's graphics engine as fairly sturdy |
| 03:37.18 | Corrodias | states? like, "not logged in", "choosing character", and "playing"? |
| 03:37.33 | Corrodias | were we talking about MMO games? |
| 03:37.34 | zipper | bleetah, ah okay, i see your point. Thought you were talking about the gfx engine |
| 03:37.49 | Corrodias | okay, then WoW is reasonably nice-looking for an MMORPG |
| 03:38.12 | Widgertick | I think WoW is a great looking MMO and has the fewest graphical issues out of any of them that I've played. |
| 03:38.14 | bleetah | even a simple game like blackjack becomes incredibly difficult online when dealing with multiple states (eg, splits, etc. etc.) and then latency/rollback etc. |
| 03:38.15 | zipper | zenzelezz, its good for an mmo, no doubt. But calling it bleeding edge? Nah, there are way more impressive engines out there |
| 03:38.29 | bleetah | I'm talking the game itself, not the GFX module |
| 03:39.05 | Mike-N-Go | If I am understanding this right, the Base flying mount costs (sub 1K Gold).. |
| 03:39.17 | Widgertick | Color me unable to understand what exactly we're talking about, then, I guess. |
| 03:39.19 | Outlaw | If you want a game with the bleeding edge graphics, play a FPS :p |
| 03:39.22 | Corrodias | but none of that has anything to do with the visual engine developers |
| 03:39.34 | bleetah | doesn't it? you know their code? |
| 03:39.39 | zipper | bleetah, i know that now :). This isnt really one of my good days, i'm having trouble figuring out if i'm still drunk or if i'm just hungover, so i misunderstand people a lot |
| 03:40.04 | Mike-N-Go | Would it be better (in your opinion) for me to skip my epic land mount (100% speed increase) and just wait to get my mount when I hit 70, get the flying one? |
| 03:40.14 | bleetah | Mike-N-Go: pretty much |
| 03:40.15 | Corrodias | do you? |
| 03:40.39 | Corrodias | afaik, the normal flying mounts are again +60% speed only. |
| 03:40.41 | Outlaw | You don't always need to see the code to know how they do it, or about how they do it |
| 03:40.43 | Tierrie|Work | no that's a dumb idea for 2 reasons |
| 03:40.49 | Mike-N-Go | I am level 60, I have the gold for the epic land mount. |
| 03:40.52 | Widgertick | I have faith in Blizzard as a developer to be skilled enough to separate the backend ( transaction handling code ) from the front end ( graphics engine ). |
| 03:40.53 | bleetah | having spent one year debugging live online multi-state games that work for real cash, with hooks into the banking networks and having to deal with rollback, I think I've got a reasonable grasp of the issues involved |
| 03:40.53 | zipper | Outlaw, i am :)... But bleeding edge gfx is nothing (as the 8 mil subscibers to wow clearly shows). Heck, i still prefer quake3 over any fps |
| 03:40.54 | Tierrie|Work | 1 the epic land riding skill is the one that costs a lot of money |
| 03:40.58 | Tierrie|Work | the mount itself is dirt cheap |
| 03:41.11 | Tierrie|Work | 2nd you have to get the epic land riding skill to get to the flying skill |
| 03:41.19 | Outlaw | True, thats what the classics like marios on SNES are more fun then alot of the new games |
| 03:41.34 | zenzelezz | from what I heard, "normal flying skill" is 800g or something, and then comes the mount |
| 03:41.46 | Outlaw | You need normal flying skill to buy the "fast flying skill" |
| 03:42.11 | zipper | Outlaw, although, if you go back to snes the games arent as great as you remember them. I'm still somewhat active in q3 still |
| 03:42.13 | Corrodias | how fast is fast? |
| 03:42.16 | Corrodias | +100%? :( |
| 03:42.24 | Gryphen | http://www.wowwiki.com/Riding http://www.wowwiki.com/Mounts |
| 03:42.24 | Outlaw | the epic one is like 260% I think |
| 03:42.29 | Tierrie|Work | 225 riding skill is 900, 300 is 5000 |
| 03:42.42 | Tierrie|Work | they are land/air, 60/60 and 100/280 respectively |
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| 03:45.25 | fdhgg | Hello channel , it's anybody of here who can translate me something from chinese ? |
| 03:46.35 | Tierrie|Work | depends if its pinyin or characters |
| 03:47.41 | Widgertick | Duibuqi. Wo de Zhongyu bu tai hao. =/ |
| 03:47.52 | fdhgg | ÄãºÃ!!! |
| 03:47.58 | fdhgg | Something like this |
| 03:48.08 | fdhgg | and ¼ÄÀ´µÄºØ¿¨¡¶´ó¹ÄÓÐÂÄê¡· |
| 03:48.12 | Mike-N-Go | Do flying mounts work on the ground? |
| 03:48.20 | Widgertick | Yes, Mike-N-Go. |
| 03:48.43 | Tierrie|Work | but not in Eastern Kingdoms or Kalimdor |
| 03:48.46 | Corrodias | :( |
| 03:48.55 | fdhgg | Hehe flying mounts ... r just for one continent |
| 03:48.55 | Corrodias | i wish they could just run in azeroth |
| 03:48.59 | fdhgg | :P |
| 03:49.13 | fdhgg | But druid's can take form for fly |
| 03:49.18 | fdhgg | At lvl 58 |
| 03:49.23 | fdhgg | Grr 68 |
| 03:49.25 | Corrodias | 68 |
| 03:49.29 | Corrodias | you and your typos |
| 03:49.32 | Corrodias | we love you <3 |
| 03:49.38 | bleetah | imo, epic land mounts are fairly pointless unless you PvP alot. there's a bucket load of new flightpoints compared to release that makes their usefulness.. dubious at best. but that's my take. |
| 03:49.47 | Widgertick | It'd be neat if someday they could redo Azeroth for flying mounts. |
| 03:49.56 | Widgertick | And then send us all PBJ sandwiches in the mail. |
| 03:50.21 | Widgertick | Mmm |
| 03:50.22 | Widgertick | PBJ |
| 03:50.27 | Corrodias | i don't have the patience to run everywhere at 100% run speed |
| 03:51.00 | bleetah | the other thing is.. they canned selling mounts back before release, because people sold them by mistake |
| 03:51.09 | bleetah | in the patch notes, it said 'a fix is on the way, reall' |
| 03:51.27 | bleetah | well, the fix is there now because the mounts are coloured, and there's the blue or better sale confirmation dialog |
| 03:51.33 | bleetah | but you still can't sell back a mount |
| 03:52.51 | bleetah | so in fact, when you buy your epic mount, you're really paying more than what you should due to a fix that's been promised for three years, and just not now enabled |
| 03:52.55 | Corrodias | let's add new content instead of fixing it! :D ;) |
| 03:53.03 | bleetah | from what I can assume, all it'd take is for them to add a price to the vendor table |
| 03:53.40 | bleetah | but as that'd no doubt mess up some of the calcs for the prices of existing mounts, and thus maybe some economy balance foo, I can understand them holding back |
| 03:53.53 | bleetah | maybe they just plain forgot that they'd promised a fix, and that could actually implement it now /shrug |
| 03:53.59 | Mike-N-Go | To |
| 03:54.49 | Mike-N-Go | Are flying mounts only restricted to the ground in in Eastern Kingdoms or Kalimdor, or not at all? |
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| 04:03.59 | zipper | Mike-N-Go, i'm not 100% sure, but afaik you cant mount at all |
| 04:05.27 | Mike-N-Go | Fell free to ping me as 'Mike' if you want. |
| 04:05.39 | Mike-N-Go | I have that as a red word. |
| 04:07.10 | Mike-N-Go | Thanks for your help. |
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| 04:17.46 | Mike-N-Go | PC [Heart of the Wild] |
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| 04:23.03 | Mike-N-Go | I made the going price of Oil of Olaf on my server 5G at auction, lol. |
| 04:25.25 | seebs | Hey, Mike! I had a question for you. |
| 04:25.25 | seebs | I will remember what it is any day now. |
| 04:25.26 | Mike-N-Go | Yes, seebs? |
| 04:25.26 | seebs | Er, which addon was yours? It was about your addon. |
| 04:25.26 | seebs | Oh! AMD, right? |
| 04:25.26 | Mike-N-Go | ~Mike-N-Go |
| 04:25.37 | purl | i heard mike-n-go is the n00blet that could.. The author of AutoMailDirector, available on WoWI, or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6139-AutoMailDirector.html |
| 04:25.41 | seebs | I love auto mail director, but I have two feature requests for you. |
| 04:25.48 | Mike-N-Go | Sure! |
| 04:25.53 | seebs | 1. "/amd all Defaultbank" to just set everything to go to one bank. |
| 04:26.05 | seebs | 2. Don't put the blurb in the mail message, it makes the mail not autodelete on the other end. |
| 04:26.14 | Mike-N-Go | I am glad my first addon has been of use to others :) |
| 04:26.27 | seebs | I changed the blurb to "" and now it works much more smoothly. :) |
| 04:26.53 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh, ok I will work on that when school quiets down; I think I will change that blurb tonight tho. |
| 04:26.56 | seebs | I had a day off, so I just spent most of my waking hours for a day working off rest bonus. My banker got sent something in excess of 80 things. |
| 04:27.26 | seebs | Luckily, I noticed early, and changed it for the others, but manually deleting 80 mail messages would be annoying. The autodelete works on empty mail with just an attachment. |
| 04:28.04 | seebs | Other mail mods have done the same thing, back around 1.9, there wasn't any autodelete on user-sent mail, so it wasn't as big a deal. |
| 04:28.53 | seebs | Still, it's pretty cool. The UI confused me at first; I expected to just hit the key over each item, rather than holding it and left-clicking, but the way it works is fine by me. |
| 04:29.33 | Mike-N-Go | I plan on making a version of my addon with more good junk, and cool features. |
| 04:29.38 | seebs | :) |
| 04:30.10 | Mike-N-Go | Well, for me I use CT_MailMod to delete the messages. |
| 04:30.19 | seebs | I think it's a very innovative solution to a common problem. I have looked at various mail-sending mods before, this one was tiny and simple to use, but does exactly what I mostly need. |
| 04:32.37 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, well, thank you :) |
| 04:33.30 | Outlaw | "Missing header! (quest designers)" trying to toggle quest watch, odd bug |
| 04:34.21 | zipper | Mike-N-Go, i prefer using tab anyway, faster than actually writing "mike" :) |
| 04:34.32 | zenzelezz | Outlaw: had that a while, seems to happen randomly |
| 04:34.52 | zipper | and np |
| 04:35.56 | Mike-N-Go | seebs, any other suggestions? |
| 04:41.14 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 04:41.43 | seebs | If you were going to make a larger set of options, or whatever, one thing I occasionally want is sorting by profession. |
| 04:42.04 | seebs | For instance, I might want to send most tradegoods to Guildbank, but all mining stuff to Newbiejewelcrafter. |
| 04:42.36 | seebs | The problem may be complicated enough that you'd be better off focusing on making it easy to change things; it may be enough to let me just easily change where trade goods go, then spam all my mining stuff. |
| 04:43.00 | seebs | Honestly, the other biggest thing you could do would be to set it so it can queue up requests and just send mail as the mailbox lets it. |
| 04:43.21 | seebs | But the code to do that would probably be 3x the length of the whole addon right now, so it might not be your best choice. |
| 04:43.33 | Mike-N-Go | For now Slash Commands, later, GUI configuration. For setting up who gets what by what key-bind. |
| 04:43.43 | Mike-N-Go | seebs: Honestly, the other biggest thing you could do would be to set it so it can queue up requests and just send mail as the mailbox lets it. |
| 04:43.47 | Mike-N-Go | What do you mean? |
| 04:44.29 | seebs | So instead of having to wait for one item to be mailed before hitting another, let me just hold down my key and click on everything in my bag in turn quickly, making a list in the addon, and sending them as fast as you can. |
| 04:44.44 | seebs | It is either hard or impossible. Probably just hard. |
| 04:45.18 | Mike-N-Go | I will ask a CT_Mod person, Clide, when one is online. |
| 04:45.44 | seebs | But it'd be really neat. Any time you can remove some of the complexity from the user's experience, that's a good bet. Compare with the way Auctioneer handles bid requests; you hit a bunch of bids, and it goes through bidding on them as fast as it can, but you don't have to wait for it. |
| 04:45.48 | Mike-N-Go | My code is poorly written, really, I am n00b at lua :) |
| 04:46.05 | Mike-N-Go | It is fun to matin this one addon, tho. |
| 04:46.17 | Mike-N-Go | Cp,[;exotu |
| 04:46.26 | seebs | Well, you have a good eye for problem definition. AMD solves exactly the problem I actually need solved for mailing, and is TINY compared to much larger addons that wouldn't actually do what I want as easily. :) |
| 04:46.29 | Mike-N-Go | Complexity? |
| 04:46.43 | Mike-N-Go | How is it complex? |
| 04:46.59 | Mike-N-Go | All it does is send mail, based off of the itemType; nothing more. |
| 04:47.46 | seebs | Well, yeah. But the user has to wait for the "mail sent" before clicking again. Hmm. Actually, that's one of two cases where it won't do what a naive user expects. |
| 04:48.10 | Mike-N-Go | I know, or it sends a blank letter :) |
| 04:48.14 | seebs | The other is that, if I try to mail something that can't be mailed, it gets picked up on the cursor; it would be ideal if, instead, it would remain where it was and I would get an error message. |
| 04:48.34 | seebs | e.g., quest items. |
| 04:48.34 | Mike-N-Go | I believe part of it has to do with high-pings. |
| 04:49.01 | seebs | Still, I'm not sure how easy it is to fix that. I know that if I just wait until I hear the jingling change and click again, it seems to work fine, and as long as my ping's good, it's faster than I can sort my inventory anyway. |
| 04:49.06 | Mike-N-Go | I hook into PickUpContainerItem |
| 04:49.18 | Mike-N-Go | So the item has to be picked up for my code to trigger. |
| 04:50.17 | seebs | Ahh. Maybe you could just drop it again if you can't mail it? That might be the easy way out. |
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| 04:51.36 | Mike-N-Go | Ok, I will have to talk with Clide for some help; he has worked with CT_Mail_Mod |
| 04:51.45 | JynxDaddy | can someone help me with a macro |
| 04:51.50 | Mike-N-Go | Sure |
| 04:51.55 | Mike-N-Go | What is the problem? |
| 04:52.04 | JynxDaddy | it doesnt work :P |
| 04:52.09 | zenzelezz | too vague |
| 04:52.11 | Mike-N-Go | Post the macro. |
| 04:52.13 | zenzelezz | how does it not work? |
| 04:52.14 | JynxDaddy | let me explain |
| 04:52.19 | Mike-N-Go | And tell us what you are trying to do. |
| 04:52.23 | JynxDaddy | im trying to make one button to do a few emotes |
| 04:52.30 | JynxDaddy | by clicking it with different mouse buttons |
| 04:52.51 | Mike-N-Go | Beyond me. |
| 04:52.55 | seebs | Hmm. |
| 04:52.59 | JynxDaddy | I have : |
| 04:53.03 | seebs | I am not sure how to do that, but it's a neat idea. |
| 04:53.08 | JynxDaddy | ./script if (GetMouseButtonClicked()==1) then DoEmote("LAUGH") else DoEmote("SPIT") end |
| 04:53.09 | Mike-N-Go | I could help you with holding down shift, option, or control. |
| 04:53.33 | JynxDaddy | yeh i tried that |
| 04:53.51 | JynxDaddy | but i dont think you can use the [] modifier things in /script |
| 04:53.54 | JynxDaddy | because it expects LUA |
| 04:54.23 | JynxDaddy | unless |
| 04:54.38 | JynxDaddy | would D: /dance [button:1] |
| 04:55.06 | Mike-N-Go | How do you know what button one is? |
| 04:55.20 | JynxDaddy | i dont |
| 04:55.27 | JynxDaddy | but they should be different right |
| 04:56.32 | Mike-N-Go | IDK |
| 04:57.30 | seebs | Argh. |
| 04:57.35 | JynxDaddy | yeh |
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| 04:57.44 | JynxDaddy | . /dance [button:2] just does it anyway |
| 04:57.48 | seebs | I am having a quirk where, if I log out and log back in, all my toons have the xtensionxtooltip2 channel displaying in chat. |
| 04:58.05 | seebs | Jynx: I don't think the emotes support the button modifiers or target modifiers. Not sure. |
| 04:58.14 | JynxDaddy | yeh it seems so |
| 04:59.09 | Mike-N-Go | ~seebs |
| 05:00.11 | JynxDaddy | ahhhhh |
| 05:00.14 | JynxDaddy | i just worked it out |
| 05:00.22 | JynxDaddy | GetMouseButtonClicked() returns words |
| 05:00.30 | JynxDaddy | LeftButton |
| 05:00.36 | JynxDaddy | RightButton |
| 05:00.40 | JynxDaddy | MiddleButton |
| 05:00.54 | JynxDaddy | Button4 and Button5 |
| 05:01.47 | JynxDaddy | ./script if (GetMouseButtonClicked()=="LeftButton") then DoEmote("LAUGH") else DoEmote("SPIT") end |
| 05:01.50 | JynxDaddy | works. |
| 05:01.54 | seebs | Nice. |
| 05:02.01 | JynxDaddy | now to add some more IFs :} |
| 05:02.02 | Mike-N-Go | Wow, you solved your own problem. |
| 05:02.14 | JynxDaddy | I couldn't of done it without you Mike-N-Go |
| 05:02.24 | Mike-N-Go | Stay within 256 chars. |
| 05:02.28 | Mike-N-Go | :) |
| 05:02.42 | JynxDaddy | only have 5 buttons |
| 05:02.58 | Mike-N-Go | Or, put it in a small addon, with a key binding that would run this :) |
| 05:03.08 | JynxDaddy | meh |
| 05:03.15 | JynxDaddy | how do i nest IFs |
| 05:03.20 | JynxDaddy | is there elseif? |
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| 05:03.46 | Mike-N-Go | Yes, there is elseif. |
| 05:03.51 | Mike-N-Go | ~wowwiki |
| 05:03.53 | purl | it has been said that wowwiki is http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 05:04.01 | Mike-N-Go | ~wowapi |
| 05:04.02 | purl | (.*?) http://www.wowwiki.com/API_$1 |
| 05:04.22 | Mike-N-Go | ..lol |
| 05:04.37 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.lua.org |
| 05:04.37 | JynxDaddy | D: |
| 05:04.42 | zenzelezz | ~wowapi GetHeight |
| 05:04.48 | Mike-N-Go | For help you need on using lua. |
| 05:04.52 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate mp |
| 05:04.53 | purl | "When it's done (tm)" |
| 05:05.06 | JynxDaddy | whajat |
| 05:05.33 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate Mike-N-Go |
| 05:05.34 | purl | ACTION has left chat.freenode.net (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 05:05.38 | Mike-N-Go | :( |
| 05:06.08 | Mike-N-Go | ~emulate norgs |
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| 05:13.50 | Esamynn | anyone have a reccomendation for a good totem timer addon? |
| 05:17.47 | Linera|In-Game | anyone able to tell me how to make a macro that tells party(if not in a raid) or raid(if i'm in one) what my TS info is? |
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| 05:28.44 | Tem | any linux wow players around? |
| 05:30.06 | zenzelezz | You feel the core of your being shift, as the source makes room for a divine presence. Zenzio has reached enlightenment. |
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| 05:36.29 | Nom- | OMG so hot today |
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| 05:39.14 | Nom- | What's a good mod for managing a guild bank ? |
| 05:39.35 | Nom- | Something that can be used to track incoming/outgoing items to |
| 05:48.18 | zipper | Tem, here, but im falling asleep soon |
| 05:48.27 | zipper | so dont take it personally if i suddenly stop talking |
| 05:50.57 | Tem | zipper, what do you use to play wow under linux? |
| 05:51.01 | Tem | wine or cedega? |
| 05:51.20 | Mike-N-Go | If anyone could help me with understanind how to code slash commands, PST. |
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| 05:51.29 | Nom- | Cadega is about the only thing you can use, Tem |
| 05:51.40 | Tem | Nom-, I know people who use wine |
| 05:52.02 | Nom- | As far as i'm aware, the DirectX implimentation in Cadega is MUCH better than Wine |
| 05:52.11 | Nom- | And Cadega is basically a modified version of Wine anyway |
| 05:52.40 | Nom- | I've not run WoW in Linux yet, but I have run Star Wars: Galaxies |
| 05:52.49 | Nom- | I ran that under Cadega |
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| 05:57.53 | zipper | tem, depends. I usually go for cedega, but when that fails i turn to wine |
| 05:58.08 | zipper | but i guess you're talking about wow and not in general? |
| 05:58.54 | zipper | i try to use cedega as little as possible due to ideologic beliefs |
| 05:59.06 | zipper | but mostly it does a better job than wine |
| 05:59.12 | zipper | as nom pointed out earlier |
| 06:00.55 | Nom- | Yah, Cadega, for all it's faults, has been designed to play games |
| 06:01.09 | Nom- | Performance wise, you're going to get so much more out of it |
| 06:01.32 | Nom- | I'm actually so very tempted to install Ubuntu or something on my desktop and run WoW on it |
| 06:01.37 | Nom- | But I dunno :P |
| 06:05.33 | krka | wine seems well enough for wow |
| 06:07.23 | zipper | wow runs like crap compared to windows |
| 06:07.26 | zipper | but its possible |
| 06:07.35 | zipper | and yeah, i believe wine is capable of running wow |
| 06:11.34 | Nom- | If I didn't have 240GB of data on a NTFS partition, i'd probably have converted by now :P |
| 06:12.41 | krka | i haven't noticed that it runs worse than in windows |
| 06:12.50 | Nom- | hahah |
| 06:12.57 | Nom- | You'll probably find that it runs better in Linux |
| 06:13.05 | krka | linux handles ntfs now, you know |
| 06:13.06 | Nom- | none of that crap running in the background (ie. Windows itself |
| 06:13.12 | Nom- | not read-write, krka |
| 06:13.16 | Nom- | Not reliably |
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| 06:13.36 | Nom- | All the currently available (free) drivers have big warnings all through the documentation...do not use if you like you data |
| 06:15.37 | krka | really? |
| 06:15.48 | krka | doesn't ntfs-3g work nicely? |
| 06:16.55 | Nom- | The driver currently is in BETA status, which means that no data corruption or loss has been reported during ordinary driver use, nor found in our extensive quality testing before release of the latest version, however we are aware of certain usability issues and driver limitations which are all documented and planned to be resolved in the future. |
| 06:17.15 | Nom- | So, just as all the rest, it's probably going to be fine |
| 06:17.29 | Nom- | But I wouldn't want to bet my 240GB of mostly irreplaceable data on it |
| 06:17.46 | Nom- | One day, when I can afford another 240gb HDD i'll change |
| 06:18.11 | Nom- | That way I can copy everything from the NTFS partition to the HDD and then format NTFS as something which both Windows and Linux can live with |
| 06:18.17 | Nom- | ie. Reiser or something like that |
| 06:18.28 | Thrae | You want to share files in a dual boot system, you use FAT32. However the idea of a dual boot is to wean you away from Windows ;) |
| 06:19.37 | Thrae | World of Warcraft's performance in Linux varies. Sometimes it's worse, most of the times it's decent, sometimes it's better. It also depends on how much you want to work at it, if your drivers aren't already installed with the best versions. |
| 06:21.01 | Nom- | Hell no to FAT32 |
| 06:21.11 | Nom- | I'll pick something sane like Reiser that has a fully functional driver for Windows |
| 06:21.26 | Thrae | Nom-: Does that have r/w? |
| 06:21.28 | Nom- | Remember, this is a single 240GB HDD partition |
| 06:21.29 | Nom- | :P |
| 06:21.33 | Nom- | AFAIK it does...nots ure |
| 06:21.44 | Nom- | anyway back soon, free beer upstairs :P |
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| 10:25.08 | Industrial | Does anyone know a mod to manage totems? If not I'm forced to write one :| |
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| 11:13.39 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Industrial> Does anyone know a mod to manage totems? If not I'm forced to write one :| |
| 11:13.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | what do you want it to do? |
| 11:17.07 | Elkano | id, maybe yata? |
| 11:21.53 | Industrial | yata is giving me lots of errors |
| 11:22.01 | Industrial | other then that its great :D |
| 11:22.14 | Industrial | Mr_Rabies2: just foldout totem buttons |
| 11:22.26 | Industrial | Id hate to have all my totems on my actionbar.. |
| 11:22.33 | Mr_Rabies2 | ah |
| 11:22.41 | Mr_Rabies2 | i usually just setup what i'll need in a /castsequence |
| 11:22.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | but Call of Elements is fantastic |
| 11:22.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | if it's still working |
| 11:23.52 | Industrial | hm right |
| 11:28.25 | Industrial | ok so |
| 11:28.28 | Industrial | im making a shammy |
| 11:28.48 | Industrial | and I like playing with the specs before i even get to see a difference from choosing one (level 12 atm..) |
| 11:28.52 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=GE0zEcMoioxZxf0x0xo |
| 11:29.28 | Industrial | im not sure about the second tier (?) of talents in the resto tree |
| 11:29.45 | Industrial | this is for pvp. |
| 11:29.48 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hE0zxZxVfbV0sAuqo is what i go with, but thats a totally different playstyle |
| 11:30.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | i stack the attack power, forego the int |
| 11:30.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | then use my shocks to complement my melee |
| 11:31.47 | Mr_Rabies2 | with 0 +int gear i still have enough mana to cast totems and shock, i love that style |
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| 11:40.25 | Industrial | http://tinyurl.com/35fpyv |
| 11:40.41 | Industrial | These are my current unitframes. the grey one is targettarget wich doesnt update at the moment |
| 11:41.00 | Industrial | theres one in between player and target but its not shown because i have no focus |
| 11:41.26 | Industrial | would it be too much overhead to check every 0.5 seconds wich unitframes are shown and not and update the rest? (set point) |
| 11:41.40 | Industrial | 8 unitframes. |
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| 11:53.45 | cladhaire | depends on your idea of overhead |
| 11:53.51 | cladhaire | if you don't re-set them when they're already set |
| 11:53.55 | cladhaire | then not really, no |
| 11:54.26 | cladhaire | especially if you use a table or something to track the visibility instead of using the widget methods |
| 11:54.56 | Industrial | hmm, what if I SetHeight to 0 and remove all text |
| 11:55.09 | Industrial | I wouldnt have to hide(what i cant do in combat anyway right) |
| 11:55.26 | Industrial | fun fun fun :P |
| 11:55.29 | cladhaire | you can't setheight to 0 |
| 11:55.34 | cladhaire | you'd have to setheight to 0.1 |
| 11:55.44 | cladhaire | or some other very small number |
| 11:55.55 | cladhaire | there's no easy way to collapse things other than that right now, afaik |
| 11:56.01 | Industrial | hm |
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| 12:13.38 | Industrial | hm |
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| 12:17.57 | Mery | hn |
| 12:17.58 | Mery | s/hn/hm/ |
| 12:18.58 | Industrial | think ive got it: http://pastey.net/5500 |
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| 12:59.12 | Jatter | Hello? |
| 12:59.23 | Industrial | ?olleH |
| 12:59.28 | Jatter | lol what? |
| 12:59.37 | Industrial | ?tahw lol |
| 12:59.40 | haste | you forgot to turn the question mark also |
| 12:59.50 | Jatter | ooohw I see you are talking backwards |
| 13:00.00 | Industrial | ton mi on |
| 13:00.11 | Industrial | era uoy |
| 13:00.21 | Industrial | ): |
| 13:00.24 | Jatter | ?ko |
| 13:00.36 | Industrial | og uoy ereht |
| 13:00.43 | Industrial | ): |
| 13:00.50 | Industrial | nah so anyway, hi. |
| 13:00.53 | Jatter | ouy t'nod eveileb ouy |
| 13:00.58 | Jatter | I |
| 13:01.04 | Kirkburn | kaerf a hcus er'uoy ,lairtsudnI |
| 13:01.19 | Industrial | ;D |
| 13:01.19 | Jatter | lol a freak |
| 13:01.33 | Corrodias | snidalap fren |
| 13:01.38 | Jatter | But is the oc number 20003? |
| 13:01.41 | Jatter | toc* |
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| 13:01.57 | Kirkburn | !sthgink doolb fren |
| 13:02.11 | Corrodias | snidalap eteled |
| 13:02.42 | Kirkburn | belete qalabinz? |
| 13:02.43 | Jatter | nerf blood kinghts? |
| 13:02.47 | Industrial | Jatter: topic? :D in short: yes |
| 13:02.50 | Jatter | oooohw knight |
| 13:02.59 | Jatter | Yeah but I wasn't sure if it was updated |
| 13:03.05 | Corrodias | Kirkburn: nerf dloob knights? |
| 13:03.11 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 13:03.14 | Corrodias | don't reverse the letters, just the order |
| 13:03.20 | Industrial | 4 line paste: |
| 13:03.21 | Industrial | 13:55 < Industrial> http://pastey.net/5502-gyaj |
| 13:03.21 | Industrial | 13:56 < Industrial> http://tinyurl.com/2jlbo3 |
| 13:03.21 | Industrial | 13:56 < Industrial> I added a background (marked the lines) but it sits on top |
| 13:03.24 | Industrial | 13:56 < Industrial> can anyone see why? |
| 13:03.25 | Industrial | there :P |
| 13:04.00 | Jatter | hmm I'm trying to learn making addons :( |
| 13:04.09 | Jatter | Still ahve to learn js ): |
| 13:04.45 | Jatter | Cya all in 5 min |
| 13:04.49 | Jatter | Have to reboot my computer |
| 13:05.01 | Jatter | I hopemy fps will turn to normal |
| 13:05.08 | Industrial | ... |
| 13:05.25 | Industrial | so anyway noone has ever made a background texture? |
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| 13:14.51 | Corrodias | i should have my first ever job interview(s) in a few days |
| 13:20.22 | Industrial | \o/ |
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| 13:21.32 | Corrodias | it would be a position on the same dev team as one of my friends, so it is an ideal place to start |
| 13:21.55 | Industrial | cool. |
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| 13:22.03 | Jatter | Back |
| 13:22.13 | Corrodias | but since it's my first interview attempt, the odds are modified against my favor due to inexperience in the interview process |
| 13:22.13 | Jatter | My fps is better than ever :D |
| 13:22.14 | Industrial | im stariting in february, at the company my dad works, ill be on the same floor ^^ |
| 13:22.26 | Industrial | starting* |
| 13:23.10 | Corrodias | congratulations on that |
| 13:24.45 | Jatter | gz |
| 13:24.57 | Corrodias | good zob? |
| 13:25.33 | Jatter | no it's a syntax for congrats |
| 13:25.43 | Jatter | If I'm right what a syntax is |
| 13:25.47 | Jatter | w8 a min |
| 13:25.53 | Jatter | I forgot what that wordmeans |
| 13:26.05 | Jatter | It's just a short word for congratulations |
| 13:26.18 | Corrodias | congrzats? |
| 13:26.30 | Corrodias | gongzats |
| 13:26.42 | Jatter | congrats |
| 13:27.05 | Industrial | congratz |
| 13:27.18 | kaso | Jatter did you mean abbreviation perhaps? |
| 13:27.37 | Industrial | meh its not that fun. its part time 2 days in the week (next to school) until the end of the academic year, and its php. |
| 13:27.42 | Corrodias | can't be |
| 13:27.48 | Jatter | yeah abbreviation |
| 13:27.51 | Corrodias | if it were an abbreviation, there should be a Z in it somewhere |
| 13:28.03 | Jatter | -_- |
| 13:28.07 | Jatter | lemme hink of another 1 |
| 13:29.12 | kaso | ok, well its a modernised abbreviation |
| 13:29.12 | Jatter | You know thx? |
| 13:29.12 | Industrial | but it does enable me to go snowboarding for a week so \o/ |
| 13:29.12 | Jatter | it onlylooks a bit like thanks |
| 13:29.13 | Jatter | All of you are playing WoW or some are just lost? |
| 13:29.42 | Corrodias | oh. well, "KE", Industrial. that means "good luck with your future employment". |
| 13:29.42 | kaso | We're just the cleverer Wow playing population ;> |
| 13:29.46 | Jatter | nice, and you play on a RP server? |
| 13:29.55 | Industrial | well thanks. |
| 13:29.59 | Corrodias | thanks has a t and an h. it also has "ks", which has the same sound as x. |
| 13:30.11 | Corrodias | thx is a properly shortened form of the actual word thanks |
| 13:30.25 | Jatter | yeah I know but still gz... |
| 13:30.32 | Jatter | and I only use ty |
| 13:30.36 | Industrial | yeah everyone knows thxz0rz is the one true form. |
| 13:30.39 | Jatter | maybe gz is from leetspeak |
| 13:30.52 | Jatter | for adding a Z |
| 13:30.59 | Jatter | instead of a s |
| 13:31.05 | Corrodias | congratulations doesn't have a g until the fourth letter, and if you are looking for a z sound, it's the last sound of a long word |
| 13:31.09 | Industrial | okok enuff back to wow :| |
| 13:31.37 | Corrodias | it would be as reasonably shortened as "ash" as it would as "gz". |
| 13:32.07 | Jatter | But if I congratulate some I mostly say grats |
| 13:32.13 | Jatter | someone* |
| 13:32.52 | kaso | Corrodias, i guess you could call it an iterative abbreviation, each generation of the words gets abbrivated into the next |
| 13:33.33 | Jatter | Yeah that's true |
| 13:33.41 | Corrodias | i tried that once with rounding numbers, but it made silly results. |
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| 13:33.52 | Corrodias | that was just for your amusement |
| 13:33.59 | Jatter | Man you guys can use those difficult words and I have to wait a year before I may start learning them |
| 13:34.12 | kaso | Numbers? |
| 13:34.12 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 13:34.16 | kaso | im confused |
| 13:34.19 | Jatter | ello |
| 13:34.20 | Corrodias | amusement, perhaps |
| 13:34.37 | kaso | How'd you mean |
| 13:34.52 | Corrodias | i'd guess he refers to "abbreviation", but i don't know what he means. |
| 13:35.07 | Jatter | me? |
| 13:35.44 | Corrodias | yes |
| 13:35.55 | Industrial | he means that hes 14 :D |
| 13:36.04 | Industrial | and dutch |
| 13:36.06 | Industrial | :X |
| 13:36.24 | Jatter | omg industrial |
| 13:36.47 | Jatter | How do you know that I'm 14? |
| 13:37.01 | Corrodias | remember that guy with the van, and the candy? |
| 13:37.07 | Jatter | nope |
| 13:37.11 | Industrial | a guess. i know you are dutch because of your hostname. |
| 13:37.28 | Corrodias | http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03172004 |
| 13:37.30 | Jatter | that's easy |
| 13:37.34 | Jatter | .nl is dutch |
| 13:38.25 | Jatter | but my age? |
| 13:38.49 | Industrial | guessed |
| 13:38.51 | Industrial | Corrodias: lol |
| 13:39.10 | Jatter | well good guess |
| 13:39.16 | Jatter | I thought that you used my email XD |
| 13:39.22 | Industrial | ..no |
| 13:39.29 | Jatter | oki |
| 13:40.00 | krka | guess me! |
| 13:40.22 | Jatter | But if I survive this year(playing less WoW) than I'm a 4th grader and can quit biology, and all those science thingies |
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| 13:40.53 | Jatter | .se |
| 13:40.58 | Jatter | uhm sweden? |
| 13:41.38 | Industrial | dude keep biology :| its fun |
| 13:41.44 | Corrodias | nono, uh.. serbia? |
| 13:42.16 | kaso | "all those science thingies" this is a channel mostly full of computer scientists ya know :> |
| 13:42.16 | Jatter | omg it isn''t |
| 13:42.29 | Jatter | Computer scientist= COOL!!!!!!! |
| 13:42.44 | Industrial | nederlands engels aardrijkskunde biologie natuurkunde scheikunde, dat was mijn vmbo pakket |
| 13:42.46 | Jatter | scientist with biology and stuff= I don'tt like that |
| 13:42.48 | Industrial | </dutch> |
| 13:42.54 | Jatter | you are dutch XD |
| 13:42.58 | Industrial | yessir |
| 13:43.02 | Jatter | I want to do something in ICT |
| 13:43.21 | Jatter | But they don't give ICT at bovenbouwers |
| 13:43.43 | Industrial | pf, grab a linux cd and a liux for dummies book and lock yourself up for a month or 2 |
| 13:44.05 | Industrial | dont need to be taught how computers work. you can do it yourself. |
| 13:44.08 | Jatter | and then? |
| 13:44.12 | Industrial | learn. |
| 13:44.36 | Jatter | So I have to learn linuz? |
| 13:44.40 | Jatter | x |
| 13:44.49 | Industrial | no, but its a good start imo |
| 13:44.59 | Jatter | and learning programming languages? |
| 13:45.09 | Jatter | or starting with addon making? |
| 13:45.20 | Jatter | rofl I wanted to say crafting |
| 13:45.22 | Corrodias | i'm pretty bad with linux, but it's just a matter of familiarity |
| 13:45.43 | Jatter | I dun even know how linux works or how the interface looks like |
| 13:45.51 | Jatter | afk |
| 13:45.53 | Jatter | need some food |
| 13:46.00 | Corrodias | its interface is text, by default |
| 13:46.13 | kaso | Linux is surprisingly easy to get used to |
| 13:46.22 | kaso | Im ready for the vista change over ! |
| 13:46.27 | Industrial | thats why I said that its a good start for anyone wanting to do something in IT. |
| 13:46.50 | Corrodias | vista just sounds like one bad idea after another |
| 13:47.01 | Industrial | I actually did lock myself up for some time to learn some things a few years ago o_O |
| 13:47.02 | Corrodias | but i have no choice, if i am to play games in a few years |
| 13:47.15 | Industrial | craptastic isnt it |
| 13:47.38 | Industrial | just like windows xp.. all you really need is 2000 |
| 13:47.51 | kaso | Well. Wine/Cedera are getting better and better every day, WoW works fine for me on linux. |
| 13:48.04 | Corrodias | actually, i like server 2k3, which is on the other side of xp from 2k. |
| 13:48.08 | Industrial | not for me, the fps drops really fast |
| 13:48.24 | Industrial | as fast as when I turn 90 degrees with my mouse it drops from 70 to 40.. |
| 13:50.20 | kaso | Anyone seen that Labyrinth Addon, In-game 3D maze, pretty crazy |
| 13:50.34 | Jatter | back |
| 13:50.35 | Industrial | wonder how they did it |
| 13:50.37 | Jatter | Vista sucks |
| 13:50.42 | kaso | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=3935 (here) |
| 13:51.14 | Industrial | sick :D |
| 13:51.27 | Corrodias | ill :d |
| 13:51.45 | Corrodias | i'd even go so far as to say it's positively -diseased- |
| 13:52.02 | Jatter | omg that maze looks a big piece of work |
| 13:52.26 | Jatter | But I'm going t play WoW |
| 13:52.34 | Jatter | And have to quit IRC cause it laggs me to hell |
| 13:52.38 | Jatter | cya all later |
| 13:52.43 | Industrial | lol? |
| 13:53.02 | Corrodias | raycasting? mang, i don't even know what that is. |
| 13:53.25 | kaso | that's some crazy coding |
| 13:53.32 | kaso | anyone know who that guy is? |
| 13:54.32 | Industrial | nope but he says he has already made 5 games for wow o_O |
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| 13:56.05 | YammYgirlcoding | morning all! |
| 13:56.11 | Corrodias | i need to go back and find the weapon switching addon that i was using... |
| 13:56.41 | Industrial | I love my new avatar |
| 13:56.44 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=1493;type=avatar |
| 13:57.01 | Corrodias | looks a little... epileptic |
| 13:57.07 | Industrial | I have my personal note right under it; "attention whore" |
| 13:57.10 | Industrial | xD |
| 13:58.14 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. What this means: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) AT structQuest[header][slot]={Objective=questObjective} |
| 13:59.29 | Industrial | that there is no structQuest[header] or structQuest[header][slot] |
| 13:59.45 | YammYgirlcoding | how can I debug it? |
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| 14:00.53 | YammYgirlcoding | there were several itens in the array , each one in each line like = { thing1, thing2, thing3, Objective=questObjective } |
| 14:01.10 | YammYgirlcoding | each thing had it own line, and the error came only for the last one. does it make diference? |
| 14:01.35 | Industrial | function debug(x) ChatFrame1:AddMessage(tostring(x)) end debug(structQuest[header]) debug(structQuest[header][slot]) |
| 14:01.38 | Industrial | or something |
| 14:02.09 | Industrial | afk |
| 14:02.52 | YammYgirlcoding | hmm i run thie debug(x) , and the same error came out, for index a nil value |
| 14:03.06 | YammYgirlcoding | does it confirms that the bug is on the array? |
| 14:07.03 | YammYgirlcoding | the error with this debug function says: Error: attempt to index global 'structQuest' (a nil value) |
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| 14:10.48 | |FF|Im2good4u | i wonder if new BC pets are gona get thier own special abelity |
| 14:15.07 | Corrodias | i wonder if we'll have alternatives to those ugly little gryphons and wyverns |
| 14:15.36 | Corrodias | for mounts, i mean |
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| 14:45.34 | Mery3 | the netherdrake Corrodias |
| 14:47.07 | kaso | wyverns is godly cool, i feel sorry for alliance |
| 14:47.16 | kaso | i just <3 the way wyverns run along the ground |
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| 14:48.02 | kaso | i wish you could use them in azeroth without the flying capability |
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| 14:48.51 | Syntax-error | morning |
| 14:48.51 | Mery | morning |
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| 14:53.10 | Syntax-error | Since i have 3 days off, think ill give that mod another crack |
| 14:55.54 | Syntax-error | Although im still stumped on what exactly CompareStats_itemLocations does, since the function is called, but is never defined :/ |
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| 14:57.21 | kaso | that unpossable! |
| 14:57.31 | kaso | sure you havent juts missed it? |
| 14:57.35 | Syntax-error | Very sure |
| 14:57.46 | Syntax-error | oo |
| 14:57.48 | kaso | Tried greping for CompareStats_itemLocations ? |
| 14:57.50 | Syntax-error | hold on |
| 14:58.20 | Syntax-error | Ok nope |
| 14:58.29 | Syntax-error | ive run searched on the entire script |
| 14:58.55 | kaso | it is possible, although odd that it could be defined in the XML, checked there too ? |
| 14:59.07 | Syntax-error | The only lines that have that function are those calling it. but i may be misunderstanding, its used as : CompareStats_GetSlotID(CompareStats_itemLocations["INVTYPE_WEAPONOFFHAND"]) |
| 14:59.25 | Syntax-error | with the function CompareStats_GetSlotID taking a variable called slotname |
| 14:59.32 | kaso | ah |
| 14:59.39 | kaso | CompareStats_itemLocation is a table |
| 14:59.53 | Syntax-error | Ahh! |
| 15:00.06 | Syntax-error | Hrm |
| 15:00.45 | Syntax-error | but then, where is that table defined? |
| 15:01.12 | Syntax-error | D |
| 15:01.13 | Syntax-error | O |
| 15:01.14 | Syntax-error | H |
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| 15:01.27 | Syntax-error | Yet more proof im a moron |
| 15:01.34 | Syntax-error | its the damn localization table |
| 15:02.00 | kaso | :) well youve got it sorted now |
| 15:02.13 | Syntax-error | Cool, thanks |
| 15:03.43 | sysrage | wow forums make baby jesus cry |
| 15:03.59 | sysrage | you have to wade through 15 pages of fucktards trying to talk smack to eachother for no good reason (and failing miserably i might add) just to find 1 sentence of something even remotely useful |
| 15:04.04 | Syntax-error | You mean.. you actually read that crap? lol |
| 15:04.15 | sysrage | i didn't. but i wanted to see what people were saying about mage invis |
| 15:04.44 | sysrage | boy did i go to the wrong place for useful talk about it |
| 15:04.52 | Syntax-error | Who care, the population of the forum as usual is a tiny portion of the actual players, and usually its just those who like to whine about... anything |
| 15:05.21 | sysrage | so i've found |
| 15:05.43 | Syntax-error | Trust me, its the same for all mmo's |
| 15:06.07 | Syntax-error | Unfortunaly, its also the only people blizz can really get the oppinion of |
| 15:08.23 | Cide | luckily, blizzard doesn't seem to listen to the player base |
| 15:08.37 | Cide | (thank god) |
| 15:10.14 | Syntax-error | Well i dunno about that |
| 15:10.26 | Syntax-error | they just seem to be able to ignore the whine, and pickup the decent ideas |
| 15:11.19 | Cide | I haven't seen very many good ideas though, but it's possible |
| 15:11.26 | Syntax-error | Im really impressed with them with TBC, the Instance have been split into wings so that you can run them without taking a day off work. and even the new start area's are 100x Better than the old |
| 15:12.13 | Cide | TBC is really nicely laid out |
| 15:12.15 | Syntax-error | Even the dynamic spawning is a great idea |
| 15:12.51 | Syntax-error | Well, ive been on the other side of development, and i know how hard it is to avoid trying to please the outspoken people |
| 15:14.08 | Syntax-error | And ive seen by doing so. things can go very wrong, blizzard have done a really good job with there expansion better than pretty much anyone ive seen |
| 15:17.21 | krka | agreed Syntax-error |
| 15:17.27 | sysrage | dynamic spawning? i thought they just pumped the spawn rate. it's really dynamic? |
| 15:18.03 | Taktaal | it definitely isn't dynamic over the same day |
| 15:18.17 | Taktaal | zeth'gor at late night is horrible |
| 15:18.55 | sysrage | you don't like clearing an area, moving into it and having 10 mobs spawn on you within 30 seconds? |
| 15:20.10 | Syntax-error | Basically the rate of spawn is linked to the number of players in the area |
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| 15:20.24 | Syntax-error | the more players, the faster the spawn. upto the point of near instant respawn |
| 15:20.58 | Taktaal | i know what dynamic spawning is, just saying that TBC doesnt have it |
| 15:21.11 | Syntax-error | It really does |
| 15:21.17 | Industrial | How do I calculate if Flametongue or Rockbiter weapon is better? |
| 15:21.17 | krka | fight! fight! |
| 15:21.26 | Industrial | the flametongue description is rather vague |
| 15:21.39 | Taktaal | go to zeth'gor at 10am |
| 15:21.51 | Taktaal | you'll have necrolytes spawn on top of you within seconds |
| 15:21.59 | Taktaal | even if you're the only one in the area |
| 15:22.07 | Syntax-error | Well ive seen ALOT of examples, but maybe not all areas are dynamic? |
| 15:22.46 | Syntax-error | Stonebreaker hold was normal respawn when i was there with 2 mates, then a group of about 20 turned up, and about 5 mins later, they were spawning 5 seconds after being killed |
| 15:22.53 | sysrage | they definately pumped the spawn rate in crowded areas, but i tend to agree, things are spawning fast even in empty areas |
| 15:23.17 | Industrial | most of the time you cant even make a fullcircle when killing mobs |
| 15:23.27 | Industrial | and they respawn before you are at the start again |
| 15:24.45 | Wing87 | What is the max number of buffs? |
| 15:25.10 | Wing87 | Positive buffs* |
| 15:25.12 | Cide | most likely irrelevant -w hy? |
| 15:25.13 | Cide | why* |
| 15:25.30 | Wing87 | well just wanted to know ^_^ |
| 15:26.01 | Cide | don't think it's publically known/verified |
| 15:26.06 | Wing87 | ok |
| 15:26.14 | Cide | do you need it for something? |
| 15:26.53 | Wing87 | wanted to make an array for all buffs i got but i guess i can just make it expand |
| 15:27.14 | Taktaal | take 50 or something |
| 15:27.28 | Taktaal | 50 buffs should be enough for everybody (tm) |
| 15:27.31 | Cide | use a while loop... |
| 15:28.19 | Syntax-error | Hrm, have they changed the format of itemlinks? |
| 15:29.11 | Cide | yes |
| 15:29.48 | Syntax-error | Typcial lol |
| 15:29.56 | Syntax-error | Better update that then |
| 15:30.15 | Taktaal | had to because of jewels |
| 15:31.04 | Syntax-error | yeah, i hate parsing info from these things |
| 15:31.36 | Syntax-error | Time to re-read string.find i think |
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| 15:34.45 | Syntax-error | Its 7 numbers after ID now isnt it? |
| 15:35.44 | Syntax-error | Yeah 8 in total with ID |
| 15:37.24 | Syntax-error | Right thats error number 143 fixed |
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| 15:47.41 | Syntax-error | Oh god |
| 15:47.50 | Syntax-error | i just realised why no one wanted to update this mod |
| 15:48.00 | Syntax-error | i have the add code to compare all the jems |
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| 16:06.22 | Industrial | WTF>!>! |
| 16:06.38 | Industrial | since when do rogue mobs backstab you??!? |
| 16:06.54 | Industrial | I got backstabbed 3 times and i was dead before i even noticed it |
| 16:06.58 | Industrial | >:( |
| 16:07.01 | Industrial | adds ftl |
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| 16:21.28 | TonyD | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.09 | |FF|Im2good4u | becase its garbage ofc |
| 16:22.28 | TonyD | *rolls eyes* |
| 16:22.49 | JoshBorke | TonyD: because it has debug code in it that scans your bag every minute |
| 16:22.50 | TonyD | I also get a shitload of these errors |
| 16:22.52 | TonyD | Error: unexpected symbol near '<' |
| 16:22.52 | TonyD | AddOn: FuBar_GarbageFu |
| 16:22.52 | TonyD | File: AceLibrary.lua |
| 16:22.52 | TonyD | Line: 1 |
| 16:23.02 | TonyD | well, how do i disable that? |
| 16:23.25 | TonyD | if it's a special version, how do I get the unspecial version? |
| 16:23.41 | TonyD | it seems to work, but |
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| 16:52.22 | Industrial | thats what you get with beta software TonyD :P |
| 16:53.53 | Syntax-error | Can suffixId:uniqueId be negative numbers? |
| 16:54.04 | Syntax-error | on itemstring that is |
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| 17:32.16 | YammYgirlcoding | guys. does exist any herb magnifier addon? |
| 17:33.15 | YammYgirlcoding | or is it even possible? |
| 17:33.26 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure I understand what you mean |
| 17:33.36 | YammYgirlcoding | i want to see herb 'BIG' on the map |
| 17:33.39 | YammYgirlcoding | on the ground |
| 17:33.43 | YammYgirlcoding | next to me |
| 17:36.21 | cogwheel | there's no way to affect the appearance of things in the game world |
| 17:36.38 | cogwheel | (well, not that won't get you permabanned, anyway) |
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| 17:47.42 | YammYgirlcoding | hmmm not even change the model size at the source fiel? |
| 17:48.16 | cogwheel | very illegal |
| 17:48.57 | cogwheel | and much harder to do since 1.11 or 12 or something like that |
| 17:48.57 | YammYgirlcoding | damm.. the plants are impossible to see on some grounds.. they simply disappear |
| 17:49.17 | YammYgirlcoding | it shouldn't be that hard |
| 17:49.25 | zenzelezz | they're meant to |
| 17:49.29 | zenzelezz | that's why you have the tracking skill |
| 17:49.34 | YammYgirlcoding | veins are big. why plant's can't be big :( |
| 17:49.47 | zenzelezz | some are |
| 17:49.59 | YammYgirlcoding | ya. the trackin skill is like: go on top of the yellow spot. round . round. round. round. and nothing |
| 17:52.11 | Taktaal | outland is a lot better |
| 17:52.23 | Taktaal | sungrass in feralas was a fucking pain |
| 17:53.17 | Syntax-error | Personally ive never had a problem finding herbs with tracking on |
| 17:53.41 | Syntax-error | i find it much harder to find mining nodes because they can spawn below ground alot more |
| 17:53.58 | Syntax-error | and its sometimes hard to see the colour diffrence |
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| 17:59.29 | Wing87 | if i pass an array to an function function BuffArrayCheck(newBuffs,oldBuffs) will thay still be arrays when thay come to the function? |
| 17:59.58 | Cide | yes |
| 18:00.10 | Cide | what would they be otherwise? :) |
| 18:00.10 | Wing87 | ok |
| 18:00.29 | Wing87 | just wanted to know if it just passed the first value in the array or the whole array |
| 18:01.35 | Syntax-error | Now that would be hell lol |
| 18:02.10 | Wing87 | yes but i get some mysco errors here thats why im wondering |
| 18:05.51 | Syntax-error | Hrm |
| 18:06.10 | Syntax-error | Anyone know of a dev addon that would allow me to view the entire contents of a table in a tree format? |
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| 18:33.23 | kaso | Syntax-error theres an addon called "Inspector (Gadget)" iirc |
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| 18:36.29 | cogwheel | what was a long netsplit... |
| 18:36.29 | cogwheel | s/what/that/ |
| 18:36.30 | cogwheel | ~botsmack |
| 18:36.34 | purl | OWW! |
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| 18:44.29 | dukeku | and lilo wasn't around to tell us about it |
| 18:44.31 | dukeku | RIP :| |
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| 19:03.06 | kaso | arrg, needles though the pupil |
| 19:04.58 | TC_Working | take a picture |
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| 19:07.00 | malreth | harro!!! |
| 19:07.10 | kaso | damn house :< |
| 19:11.03 | malreth | helped kill a fel reaver last night |
| 19:11.18 | malreth | that was satisfying |
| 19:16.49 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 19:20.34 | pastamancer | malreth: holy shit, they're killable?! |
| 19:20.47 | malreth | yah |
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| 19:21.13 | malreth | he went down like a $2 whore |
| 19:21.20 | pastamancer | how hard do they hit? |
| 19:21.26 | malreth | their death animation was satisfying |
| 19:21.31 | malreth | they hit hard |
| 19:21.40 | malreth | but i did neither tanking nor healing |
| 19:21.51 | malreth | but i've heard 6000 per pop is not uncommon |
| 19:22.36 | zenzelezz | on what class? |
| 19:22.47 | malreth | one sec... |
| 19:22.58 | zenzelezz | 6000 on plate sounds a bit much |
| 19:23.25 | Tierrie|Work | its not that hard |
| 19:23.29 | Tierrie|Work | i've killed a fel reaver 3 times |
| 19:23.32 | Tierrie|Work | with a group of 5 |
| 19:23.36 | malreth | And at level 62, with 16,300 armor, I was hit by repeated crushing blows for about 1,200 to 1,300 each. |
| 19:23.53 | malreth | is what someone said |
| 19:23.54 | Tierrie|Work | one of the funnest thing sto do is to fly right next to it and watch as it crushes people |
| 19:24.07 | Tierrie|Work | my friend and i were doing crushes per minute |
| 19:24.08 | malreth | Tierrie|Work: oh yeah! |
| 19:24.11 | Tierrie|Work | and we came up 2 or 3 |
| 19:24.43 | Tierrie|Work | it was kind of cruel yet fun, watching that hunter that you know will not live -- run for his life |
| 19:24.44 | malreth | last night while following him so that the raid could find him, i watched him kill people. |
| 19:24.50 | Tierrie|Work | ya! |
| 19:24.51 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 19:24.56 | malreth | he killed the same paladin 3 times |
| 19:25.02 | Tierrie|Work | haha |
| 19:25.09 | Tierrie|Work | this one innovative hunter ran into the mines |
| 19:25.11 | malreth | i mean, you think you'd learn after the first |
| 19:25.58 | malreth | well, the event was a guild-just-for-fun event... we probably threw too many people at him for it to be a challenge |
| 19:26.03 | Tierrie|Work | oh |
| 19:26.07 | malreth | so after we destroyed him... |
| 19:26.10 | Tierrie|Work | ours was to get out shattered halls key |
| 19:26.15 | malreth | we set out to kill the pit boss |
| 19:26.20 | malreth | pit commander, rather |
| 19:26.32 | Tierrie|Work | why didn't you guys advance your shattered halls quest? |
| 19:26.44 | malreth | probably because no one had that quest |
| 19:26.52 | Tierrie|Work | you go to the black temple |
| 19:26.58 | Tierrie|Work | on the left side is a smith in a hut, he's non elite |
| 19:27.05 | Tierrie|Work | kill him to get a "This item starts a quest" drop |
| 19:27.15 | Tierrie|Work | its just fedex until the Fel Reaver |
| 19:27.21 | malreth | well, i'll let people know then |
| 19:27.26 | malreth | so the pit commander |
| 19:27.55 | Tierrie|Work | so |
| 19:27.57 | Tierrie|Work | pit commander |
| 19:27.58 | Tierrie|Work | chec k |
| 19:28.05 | malreth | we had a gnome warlock charge at him to pull him. that had a satisfying and predictable end. |
| 19:28.23 | Tierrie|Work | :) |
| 19:28.24 | sysrage | hurray for gnome warlock deaths! |
| 19:28.53 | malreth | then we got wiped when 20-some odd demons came marching up the road at us |
| 19:28.55 | Kirov | http://youtube.com/watch?v=15bwhVxw-Bg - if you love cats, witness the horror. If you hate cats, laugh in glee |
| 19:29.23 | malreth | the pit commander's rain of fire hits for 57000 per tick |
| 19:29.35 | Tierrie|Work | haha seems reasonable |
| 19:29.47 | sysrage | lol kirov, i just saw that on my guilds website.. i couldn't stop laughing and i like cats! |
| 19:30.16 | malreth | yeah... so... remember back from MC on gehennas when the RL said, "stay out of the fire rain"... |
| 19:30.30 | malreth | yeah... you REALLY want to stay out of that |
| 19:32.34 | malreth | oh man... that cat looked really angry at the end |
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| 20:39.46 | kaso | Does anyone have an Un-patched 2.0.5 version of wow lying around? |
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| 20:55.39 | cogwheel | kaso: what are you after? |
| 20:56.33 | kaso | I think blizzard have been sneaky and revered there 2.0.5 ToU changes and removed all mention from the patchlog in 2.0.6, sobasically i want a 2.0.5 tos.html and patch.txt |
| 20:57.19 | cogwheel | oh... i was gonna suggest wdn.wowinterface.com but it only has UI stuff... |
| 20:57.25 | kaso | mm |
| 20:57.41 | kaso | I think my windows version of wow is still on 2.0.1 so i could patch that up. but im lazy :> |
| 20:58.05 | kaso | But its rather sneaky for them to retroactively change the patchnotes imo |
| 21:11.05 | |FF|Im2good4u | its also sneaky to nerf us hunters we are now underpowered >.< |
| 21:11.43 | zenzelezz | ... right |
| 21:14.12 | malreth | underpowered compared to what? |
| 21:14.15 | malreth | :p |
| 21:14.44 | malreth | Things that are more powerful than hunters... |
| 21:14.52 | malreth | Blenders |
| 21:14.57 | malreth | Microwaves |
| 21:15.00 | malreth | Recliners |
| 21:15.07 | malreth | Small toddlers |
| 21:15.21 | malreth | Angle brackets |
| 21:15.32 | malreth | Copper rivets |
| 21:15.41 | malreth | Horse hooves |
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| 21:15.54 | malreth | South Carolinans |
| 21:16.01 | TC_Working | Toilet Paper |
| 21:16.19 | malreth | 300-thread count bed sheets |
| 21:16.54 | malreth | yeah, you hunters... definitely underpowered |
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| 21:31.38 | sysrage | pfft. South Carolinians are weak |
| 21:31.39 | sysrage | :P |
| 21:31.46 | sysrage | even weaker than hunters |
| 21:32.11 | malreth | Things that are less powerful than warlocks... |
| 21:32.16 | malreth | Jet engines |
| 21:32.28 | malreth | Rocket motors |
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| 21:33.01 | MageRooster | ...hunters are weak? O.o |
| 21:33.19 | malreth | The force that holds protons and neutrons together in atoms |
| 21:33.28 | malreth | Space-time |
| 21:33.46 | malreth | Lies |
| 21:34.10 | TC_Working | the gravitational effect of a quantum singularity |
| 21:34.14 | malreth | The urge to procreate |
| 21:35.20 | Kirov | Actually, the urge to procreate is really low ... the urge to have sex is what's powerful |
| 21:35.24 | malreth | not as powerful as a warlock |
| 21:36.04 | Syntax-error | You know god plays a warlock |
| 21:36.23 | Syntax-error | jesus is apparently a shaman |
| 21:39.20 | zenzelezz | what makes you say that? |
| 21:39.24 | zenzelezz | it could have just been a soul stone |
| 21:39.53 | malreth | gah, i'm still not used to this new forum avatar... |
| 21:40.11 | kaso | The Dastards! |
| 21:40.16 | malreth | i miss my beard and 'stash |
| 21:40.32 | kaso | They retroactively changed the patch notes and terms of use to cover-up the changes they made |
| 21:40.39 | Syntax-error | Hrm, i could do with dumping this table to a txt file |
| 21:40.55 | malreth | what cover-up? |
| 21:40.57 | malreth | what changes? |
| 21:41.18 | TC_Working | mal your so out of it |
| 21:41.21 | kaso | THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTs |
| 21:41.26 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=17556 |
| 21:41.30 | Industrial | im so gonna get this one |
| 21:41.32 | Syntax-error | There is no cover up no changes, This is a rumour that is full of untruth's, we have no more comment on the matter, drop it |
| 21:41.37 | Industrial | is it the only purple one in the game? |
| 21:41.39 | kaso | In 2.0.5 there was some big changes to the Terms of Use that basically removed the bits saying no buying gold/sharing accounts/powerleveling |
| 21:41.44 | Industrial | you can tame it btw |
| 21:41.45 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:41.46 | TC_Working | kaso, ST referances |
| 21:42.09 | Syntax-error | We at blizzard entertainment are NOT trying to take over all the world. we really dont want Australia |
| 21:42.16 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:42.18 | kaso | in 2.0.6 the tos is back to the 4th dec 2006 version and the patch log referance to the change has been removed |
| 21:43.14 | Syntax-error | Kaso, you may find, thats because apparently the american t.o.s dont have rules again gold/account selling like the EU t.o.s |
| 21:43.23 | Syntax-error | maybe they accidently added the wrong t.o.s? |
| 21:43.50 | kaso | they dont ? |
| 21:43.57 | Syntax-error | Thats what ive been told |
| 21:44.30 | kaso | and even if they did make the mistake they should have revered and updated the last change to ToS date to current, rather than reverting with no mention of the change |
| 21:45.18 | kaso | I think it could be to do with the early release of 2.0.5, because on the patch.txt it doesnt give a date for the 2.0.5 patch |
| 21:45.32 | kaso | still i think its cheeky they didnt update the last change date |
| 21:45.37 | Syntax-error | Meh i dunno |
| 21:45.53 | Syntax-error | What i do know. is i need to be able to dump this table into a txt file |
| 21:46.20 | malreth | saved variables file? |
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| 21:47.39 | Syntax-error | Hrm, i wonder how hard it would be to just stick the code in for that, not played with SV's before |
| 21:48.03 | kaso | just add ## SavedVariable : MyTable into your TOC |
| 21:48.04 | malreth | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions |
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| 21:48.15 | kaso | or read that :> |
| 21:48.29 | kaso | ## SavedVariables: , not ## SavedVariable: |
| 21:48.51 | cogwheel | SFW, but not exactly polite: http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyid=2007-01-25T202549Z_01_L25295815_RTRUKOC_0_US-IGUANA-ERECTION.xml&src=rss |
| 21:49.52 | malreth | there... there HAS to be something less drastic |
| 21:52.22 | kaso | they have two? how is that even evolutionarily beneficial |
| 21:53.15 | Malivil | ncase you eat a viagra and need you penis cut off |
| 21:53.36 | malreth | if there was ever a selection pressure that favored two over one, then it was evolutionarily beneficial |
| 21:53.45 | Syntax-error | So, Basically all i have to do is put # SavedVariables: Tablename and it will save that table? |
| 21:53.55 | Malivil | yup |
| 21:54.08 | malreth | maybe female iguanas care about getting reamed both ways at once |
| 21:54.14 | Malivil | o.O |
| 21:54.17 | Malivil | wow |
| 21:54.24 | malreth | hey! |
| 21:54.28 | malreth | you don't know iguanas |
| 21:54.33 | malreth | like i know iguanas |
| 21:55.03 | malreth | they could have all kinds of strange and weird practices |
| 21:55.19 | malreth | like really devious things that make 30-year old japanese men blush |
| 21:56.13 | Malivil | o.O |
| 21:56.23 | Industrial | o_O |
| 21:57.18 | Industrial | MALRETH MAKES 30YEAROLD JAPANESE MEN BLUSH |
| 21:57.30 | Industrial | xD |
| 21:58.02 | malreth | i miss my beard and 'stache |
| 21:58.49 | kaso | tbc made $100,000,000 in 24hours, thats just crazy |
| 21:58.52 | Syntax-error | well ill be screwed sideways by and overgrown emu |
| 21:59.24 | Syntax-error | turns out that there is a section of the table that isnt shown by the inspect gadget |
| 21:59.34 | Syntax-error | Damnable hidden tables |
| 22:00.19 | malreth | TBC was the fastest selling PC game ever. |
| 22:00.35 | malreth | like, over 2 million sold on day 1 |
| 22:05.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | you know |
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| 22:05.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | thats the first sentence i read in a good 30 mins in this channel |
| 22:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | and with no context that was pretty funny |
| 22:06.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | :O |
| 22:06.14 | cogwheel | "Can anyone identify the addons used in this picture?" http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6498/cenariancrap6jg.jpg |
| 22:06.32 | alcaras | cogwheel: lol? |
| 22:07.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | um |
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| 22:07.06 | Mr_Rabies2 | none |
| 22:07.07 | Mr_Rabies2 | :x |
| 22:07.13 | alcaras | anyone know if aguf supports 2d portraits yet? |
| 22:07.23 | Mr_Rabies2 | well maybe, actually |
| 22:07.25 | alcaras | or party targets |
| 22:07.35 | Mr_Rabies2 | there's a minimap button clipping through the inventory |
| 22:07.38 | Mr_Rabies2 | that's empty. |
| 22:08.48 | cogwheel | looks like CTMod's default button location... |
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| 22:11.27 | cladhaire | http://glumbert.com/media/laugh |
| 22:11.30 | Mr_Rabies2 | or like any of the ones originating from early wow, for some reason |
| 22:12.07 | AnduinLothar | anything that copied cide's ctmod minimap btton code would have that problem when moved |
| 22:12.33 | Cide | hmm, what problem? |
| 22:12.40 | AnduinLothar | I fixed it in MobileMinimapButtons by anchoring the invisible parent to the movable/clickable child |
| 22:12.50 | Cide | ctmod2 doesn't have that |
| 22:13.12 | AnduinLothar | no, but lots of people copied the orig code you had |
| 22:13.23 | Cide | probably |
| 22:13.30 | AnduinLothar | which, without trying to insult, was pretty poor design |
| 22:13.40 | Cide | ya, I bet I copied it from somewhere too actually |
| 22:13.47 | Cide | I know I did parts of it |
| 22:13.48 | AnduinLothar | with a frame and then a button on top |
| 22:13.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | cough cough |
| 22:13.54 | Cide | yep |
| 22:13.57 | Mr_Rabies2 | speaking of mobile frames |
| 22:14.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | er mobileminimapbutotns |
| 22:14.12 | Mr_Rabies2 | mine's still broked :[ |
| 22:14.25 | Mr_Rabies2 | it seems to only be me though, probably some conflict |
| 22:14.46 | AnduinLothar | it's a conflict i spose, since i cant reproduce |
| 22:14.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i do have a metric buttload of addons |
| 22:15.09 | AnduinLothar | it might also be existing SVs |
| 22:15.28 | Mr_Rabies2 | nah i deleted the svs and stuff |
| 22:15.36 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the addon folder itself |
| 22:15.48 | AnduinLothar | ctrl-click? |
| 22:15.58 | Mr_Rabies2 | mhm |
| 22:16.05 | Mr_Rabies2 | does nothing to any buttons |
| 22:16.18 | AnduinLothar | works on the FeatureFrame button i assume |
| 22:16.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | it IS storing the wardrobe button's location when i move it with /wd unlock and just drag |
| 22:16.42 | Mr_Rabies2 | and the featureframe button location isn't being stored in the MMM SVs, either |
| 22:16.50 | Mr_Rabies2 | but it's moving on ctrl click |
| 22:16.52 | Mr_Rabies2 | O_o |
| 22:17.10 | AnduinLothar | featureframe has it's own rotation code |
| 22:17.34 | AnduinLothar | since it's meant to be standalone |
| 22:18.54 | Mr_Rabies2 | i dunno i guess i can do a bit more testing |
| 22:19.19 | Mr_Rabies2 | i always find the most bizarre "bugs" if it's even that |
| 22:23.04 | Mr_Rabies2 | i'll take my findings to the cosmos channel i guess, renamed wtf and interface folders just to see if a fresh install, essentially, does it too |
| 22:23.20 | AnduinLothar | w/e |
| 22:23.23 | Mike-N-Go | Hello. |
| 22:23.49 | Mike-N-Go | I am having trubble with my slash command handler. |
| 22:23.52 | Mike-N-Go | http://pastey.net/5509 |
| 22:24.31 | Industrial | beat it with a stick |
| 22:24.39 | Mike-N-Go | I would key '/amd itemtype armor panoplie' and press enter, then the box won't go away. |
| 22:24.40 | Industrial | fwap fwap fwap fwap! |
| 22:24.53 | Mr_Rabies2 | <Industrial> beat it with a stick |
| 22:25.13 | Mr_Rabies2 | this is usually my solution to things that refuse to work |
| 22:25.20 | Industrial | :) |
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| 22:25.59 | Industrial | work bitch work! fwap fwap fwap fwap! |
| 22:26.08 | Industrial | nah ok that went too far |
| 22:26.11 | Industrial | i didnt mean that :< |
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| 22:27.35 | AnduinLothar | i usually bypass the middleman and beat it with my bare hands |
| 22:28.12 | Nickenyfiken | hmm if i have a item tooltip and can scan it for example with cratuity. How the hell do i get the item link? Or isnt that possible? |
| 22:28.32 | AnduinLothar | it's not |
| 22:31.39 | Nickenyfiken | darn |
| 22:32.27 | Cairenn | http://gotoquiz.com/what_american_accent_do_you_have |
| 22:33.03 | Cairenn | ""North Central" is what professional linguists call the Minnesota accent. If you saw "Fargo" you probably didn't think the characters sounded very out of the ordinary. Outsiders probably mistake you for a Canadian a lot." - Well golly gee, I wonder why folks might think I sound Canadian? |
| 22:33.06 | Mike-N-Go | "AutoMailDirector.lua line 157: attempt to index field 'itemtype' (a nil value)" |
| 22:33.25 | Mike-N-Go | I put it in quotes, what did I do wrong? |
| 22:35.20 | Kemayo | Mike-N-Go: 'itemtype' isn't a table, but you're trying to index it. Apparently. |
| 22:35.23 | MageRooster | "You have a Midland accent" is just another way of saying "you don't have an accent." |
| 22:36.06 | Mike-N-Go | Hum, I am trying to irate 'itemtype' as the text to put into the table. |
| 22:36.34 | Mike-N-Go | Been a long time since I have worked with lua.. trying to make my addon better. |
| 22:37.15 | Industrial | Your Result: The Northeas |
| 22:37.19 | Industrial | EEEE wrong im dutch lol |
| 22:37.22 | Industrial | ;x |
| 22:37.36 | Corrodias | northeast dutchland |
| 22:37.38 | bleetah | Apparently I have a Northeast accent, too |
| 22:37.41 | Industrial | I never talk english anyway >_> |
| 22:37.51 | bleetah | goes to show what a crock it is! :P |
| 22:38.15 | bleetah | trust an aussie to gatecrash a US survey and screw it up :P |
| 22:38.24 | Kemayo | Mike-N-Go: looking at the pastey'd code above, I'd say make sure that "MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]["itemtype"]" is actually a table. |
| 22:38.51 | Kemayo | Mike-N-Go: If it isn't, and you're doing "MailDirectorData[AMDRealmFaction]["itemtype"][itemType]", then that would explain the error you got. |
| 22:38.51 | Mike-N-Go | OK. |
| 22:40.35 | Mike-N-Go | What I was trying to do was make the name of the sub-table "itemtype", then spool into that sub-table. |
| 22:40.51 | bleetah | just a word of warning for today... if you wish an Aussie 'Happy Australia Day', they'll (rightfully) look at you as if you're some kind of freak. The correct thing to say is 'Have a beer', 'When are we heading to the beach?' or 'Bummer that the 6 week holiday period is about to end'. Note: Fosters is NOT beer. To quote Monty Python, it's like having sex in a canoe (*&^$ing close to water) |
| 22:41.50 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:42.27 | Corrodias | Your Result: The Inland North |
| 22:42.29 | Corrodias | absolutely |
| 22:44.37 | Tain | hah hah oh this is both wonderful and disturbing. https://www.spreadshirt.com/shop.php?sid=49467&search[text]=[Game-02] |
| 22:44.53 | Antiarc|Work | "You have a Midland accent" is just another way of saying "you don't have an accent." You probably are from the Midland (Pennsylvania, southern Ohio, southern Indiana, southern Illinois, and Missouri) but then for all we know you could be from Florida or Charleston or one of those big southern cities like Atlanta or Dallas. You have a good voice for TV and radio. |
| 22:44.58 | Antiarc|Work | <-- Arizona, originally Texas. |
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| 22:45.28 | kergoth | it said i have midland, but i'm a minnesotan who's been in dallas for a few years and more recently, phoenix |
| 22:46.10 | Corrodias | why, i've never heard anyone say "collar" differently from "caller" |
| 22:46.30 | Antiarc|Work | kergoth, you're in Phoenix? |
| 22:46.36 | kergoth | yeah |
| 22:46.40 | Antiarc|Work | Huh, me too. |
| 22:46.55 | kergoth | chandler, to be more specific. work in scottsdale |
| 22:47.00 | Nickenyfiken | uhm isnt GetItemInfo("Name of Item") supposed to return info about the item? |
| 22:47.08 | Antiarc|Work | Scottsdale, work in scottsdale here. I'm in the airpark at the moment. |
| 22:47.21 | Antiarc|Work | Nickenyfiken: No, you have to provide a link or an item ID |
| 22:47.49 | Nickenyfiken | ok then wowwiki is wrong or outdated :-/ |
| 22:48.18 | Nickenyfiken | itemName |
| 22:48.18 | Nickenyfiken | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:48.21 | Antiarc|Work | Huh, it does say you can give it an item name. |
| 22:48.26 | Nickenyfiken | yeah |
| 22:48.32 | Antiarc|Work | *shrug* |
| 22:48.37 | Nickenyfiken | it is working hmm |
| 22:48.37 | Antiarc|Work | Maybe the item name is wrong or not cached? |
| 22:48.47 | Nickenyfiken | i was tryong with "Heartstone" and it didnt work |
| 22:48.51 | Antiarc|Work | Heh |
| 22:49.10 | Nickenyfiken | but it worked with GetItemInfo("Relic Bundle") which i have in inventory |
| 22:49.19 | Nickenyfiken | weird |
| 22:49.43 | Antiarc|Work | "Heartstone" is not the same as "Hearthstone" |
| 22:50.05 | Tain | Heartstones are even more painful than gallstones. |
| 22:50.16 | Antiarc|Work | Passing them's a bitch. |
| 22:50.47 | Nickenyfiken | lol |
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| 22:51.17 | Corrodias | even worse are brainstones |
| 22:52.00 | TC_Working | ..... |
| 22:52.37 | Tain | Braaaaaaaaiiiiiins |
| 22:54.08 | kaso | http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/Re%20Your%20Brains.mp3 :) |
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| 23:02.14 | kaso | When did spirit bond get a new icon |
| 23:02.24 | Vonhinten | any wowwiki admins here? |
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| 23:02.34 | kaso | try #wowwiki |
| 23:02.37 | bleetah | Vonhinten: you may have better luck in @wowwiki |
| 23:02.41 | bleetah | er.. #wowwiki |
| 23:02.44 | Vonhinten | ok |
| 23:02.46 | Vonhinten | thx |
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| 23:05.51 | Outlaw | So anyone have a suggestion for a place to level at 18! |
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| 23:07.03 | Shadowed | as alliance |
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| 23:07.32 | bleetah | ashenvale, lakeshire, wetlands |
| 23:07.46 | bleetah | been a while since I played alliance, my level guess may be a little off ;) |
| 23:08.03 | Shadowed | all of those are like 20-22 i think :( |
| 23:08.19 | Industrial | wetlands is til 30 |
| 23:08.34 | Shadowed | starting at 20-22i mean |
| 23:08.39 | Industrial | ad you can do lakeshire fine at 18 |
| 23:08.49 | Industrial | starts with level 16 mobs |
| 23:08.51 | Industrial | afaik |
| 23:08.54 | Industrial | and some quests there. |
| 23:08.56 | Industrial | ease ones |
| 23:09.10 | Shadowed | will have to check out lakeshire then! |
| 23:10.31 | Industrial | redridge mountains*, btw :S |
| 23:10.52 | Shadowed | i'm pretty sure it's also called lakeshire :p |
| 23:10.54 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/?zone=44 level 15-25 |
| 23:10.59 | Industrial | the town is |
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| 23:29.27 | Syntax-error | Ok i dont get this |
| 23:31.06 | Syntax-error | What would you suggest this line is supposed to do? : bonuses = BonusScanner:ScanItem(link); |
| 23:31.31 | Mikma | so, i'll ask it from here too. Are all the instances in WoW capped to 25man or just the instances in Outlands? |
| 23:31.35 | kaso | imagen it gets the bonuses of the supplied item link |
| 23:32.01 | kaso | just the new raid ones Mikma |
| 23:32.28 | Syntax-error | Thats what i thought kaso, but.. the variable is defined and set to a default of false. making it a bool.. and making no sence to me .. |
| 23:32.43 | Mikma | kaso: thank you |
| 23:32.51 | kaso | in lua variables can change types |
| 23:32.51 | Syntax-error | especially when the comment above the line says : -- Get the bonuses of the moused over item |
| 23:32.54 | kergoth | Syntax-error: i suggest you read about the api of bonusscanner. |
| 23:33.24 | Syntax-error | And where would i find that? |
| 23:33.53 | kergoth | worst case, assuming it doesnt have specific api docs, the bonusscanner code. |
| 23:34.26 | Syntax-error | Well, yeah i have |
| 23:34.43 | Syntax-error | Far as i can tell, its supposed to do exactly what it says, and return the list of bonus's on that item |
| 23:35.23 | Syntax-error | I hate upgrading other peoples work lol |
| 23:35.57 | kergoth | i havent looked at th ecode, but perhaps it returns false/nil as the first value if it failed to obtain the bonuses, or if there were none? |
| 23:36.06 | kergoth | just guessing, throwing possibilities around :) |
| 23:36.12 | cogwheel | that's a very common practice |
| 23:36.45 | Syntax-error | Hrm let me test something |
| 23:37.12 | kergoth | yeah, its a lua convention i really like. return nil, "foo error" |
| 23:37.30 | kergoth | theres even a nifty "exceptions" implementation on the lua users wiki that pcalls to convert an error() into that style |
| 23:37.41 | cladhaire | so.. what addon auto sells all my gray items to the vendor? |
| 23:38.21 | Tain | It's people! Soylent clad is people! |
| 23:38.23 | Corrodias | i just saw one, cladhaire |
| 23:38.27 | Corrodias | but i don't know the name |
| 23:38.48 | cladhaire | lol |
| 23:38.50 | cladhaire | you tempt me. |
| 23:38.52 | bleetah | clad: autoprofit |
| 23:39.00 | cladhaire | where can i find it? |
| 23:39.00 | Tain | I used Sell-O-Matic for the longest time. But now I don't know. |
| 23:39.01 | cogwheel | garbage_fu |
| 23:39.15 | cladhaire | i dont use fubar |
| 23:39.24 | Corrodias | garbage_fu was borked last time i saw it |
| 23:39.25 | kergoth | automaton has a sell greys module as well |
| 23:39.27 | kergoth | lots of options |
| 23:40.08 | bleetah | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6625-AutoProfit.html |
| 23:40.27 | cladhaire | thanks for autoprofit |
| 23:40.29 | cladhaire | looks perfect =) |
| 23:40.50 | bleetah | yup, standalone... doesn't bring the kitchen sink with it, etc. etc. |
| 23:40.59 | cladhaire | a man after my own heart =) |
| 23:41.34 | bleetah | reminds me, I wonder if about:kitchensink is inbuilt into current firefox releases... |
| 23:42.01 | cladhaire | oh wow |
| 23:42.02 | bleetah | damn, doesn't look like it... maybe in full blown Mozilla. The extension's out there, still rofl |
| 23:42.07 | cladhaire | that was a heavenly experience |
| 23:44.01 | Corrodias | selling your junk? |
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| 23:45.10 | cladhaire | yes |
| 23:45.12 | cladhaire | in one click |
| 23:45.15 | cladhaire | made me hapy |
| 23:45.53 | Syntax-error | Nope, far as i can tell, the function is supposed to return a table of the bonus's on that item |
| 23:46.09 | kaso | and its returning nil? |
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| 23:46.24 | Syntax-error | yet its defined as a boolean, shouldnt it error? if you attempt to set a boolean variable with table data? |
| 23:47.10 | kaso | lua's variables have no type |
| 23:47.22 | cladhaire | Syntax-error: You can't have that name. |
| 23:47.24 | cladhaire | that name is taken |
| 23:47.25 | cladhaire | imo =) |
| 23:47.37 | Syntax-error | ? |
| 23:47.41 | cladhaire | j/k |
| 23:47.49 | cladhaire | i used that name, with no hyphen in coding communities.. for.. a while. |
| 23:47.50 | cogwheel | Syntax-error: http://www.lua.org |
| 23:47.52 | kaso | local fred = false; fred = 10; fred = function() print("fred") end |
| 23:48.18 | cogwheel | s/g/g\/pil\// |
| 23:48.36 | cogwheel | hmmm... purl doesn't like escaped slashes, apparently... |
| 23:49.07 | cogwheel | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 23:49.57 | bleetah | ooh, I just noticed I could write a three line mod update checker for #wow-i... rofl |
| 23:50.06 | cogwheel | you really need to have a firm grasp of lua concepts before you'll be very effective at modding (especially when addons you're looking at use all kinds of nifty lua tricks & treats) |
| 23:50.14 | bleetah | hmm, maybe four lines |
| 23:53.20 | Syntax-error | I have enough to work out, and i can learn along the way, the problems i do have is understanding why its done in these ways |
| 23:54.07 | Syntax-error | i have however figured out why it has a problem, bonus scanner runs a check before scanning, which for some reason is returning nil. i just need to figure out why now |
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| 23:57.08 | bleetah | question for windows vista users: does it have a shell by default? if so, what style are the using (bourne, korn, etc etc.)? |
| 23:57.53 | Tain | It is similiar to XP's cmd |
| 23:58.04 | bleetah | oh, so none then! hehe |
| 23:58.05 | Corrodias | actually, in windows, we refer to explorer as the shell |
| 23:58.12 | Corrodias | i don't know what bleetah is trying to get at |
| 23:58.17 | Corrodias | you want a pure text-mode interface? |
| 23:58.25 | cogwheel | bleetah: it's a downloadable addon called Cygwin |
| 23:58.34 | Tain | You could interpret, you know... seing as he said bourne, korn, etc. |
| 23:58.48 | Corrodias | he wants linux in windows? yeah, microsoft doesn't do that. |
| 23:58.57 | bleetah | um, yes they do |
| 23:59.02 | bleetah | or at least did at one stage |
| 23:59.04 | Corrodias | no, they don't. |
| 23:59.13 | Syntax-error | When have they? |
| 23:59.25 | bleetah | not so much linux, but Unix tools |
| 23:59.41 | Corrodias | ah. you want command-line programs like... what, man? |
| 23:59.55 | Tain | I keep a cmd window open all day long. |
