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00:01.54GuillotineHey guys, check out this google map: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&t=k&q=Germany&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=48.857699,10.205451&spn=0.002404,0.006738&om=1&spn=0.002404,0.006738&om=1
00:02.14nevcairielhe stole it from curse channel :/
00:02.15Kirovthat the big bug?
00:02.23Guillotineof course I did :)
00:02.25Guillotineyes, it is
00:02.36zenzelezzit came from Slashdot
00:02.51nevcairielits still weird tho, arent that satellite images? how do bugs get into space ? :D
00:02.58GuillotineI was wondering that
00:03.01nevcairielspace-bugs, awww
00:03.07nevcairielslashdot was right
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00:04.14IrielMost of the high detail images are from airplane passes
00:04.20warlahttp://www.curse-gaming.com/en/wow/addons-5336-1-wowprofiles.html
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00:07.17GuillotineWarla: what about it? Are you not darky29?
00:17.16abugthe number of profile addons is approaching the number of WWII games :(
00:17.49fatbrainhehe, *shhh*
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00:18.13fatbrainin order to enumerate through the craft-items I have to open the crafts window?
00:18.19Mr_Rabies2whoaaa
00:18.38abugyeah fatbrain
00:18.45Temfatbrain, to open the craft/tradeskill frame, you must "cast" the tradeskill spell
00:18.49fatbrainofc
00:18.52abugbasically you gotta beg the user to do it
00:18.53fatbrainabug: thought so
00:18.53Mr_Rabies2do any of you guys know what "Quest ancora da consegnare" means? :O
00:18.58Temas we all know, casting requires a hardware event
00:19.00fatbrainmay be the reason I did it so long time ago
00:19.06fatbrainI was like... wtf at first
00:19.09Mr_Rabies2cause some addon of mine is popping that up on flight master clicks now @_@
00:19.15warlaGuillotine i am darky29
00:19.18warla:-)
00:21.55IndustrialI thought Kaelten was warla
00:21.56Industrial:P
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00:22.54Guillotinealright warla. just wanted to make sure you wern't saying your addon was up without your permission :)
00:23.40warlaheh nah i linked it because i put it up today
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00:25.21Guillotineah, ok :)
00:36.33Cidehmm
00:37.56Cideis there a way to change what part of the text an editbox is displaying?
00:38.18Cidefor example, if I :SetText a really long string, it'll show the end of it by default
00:38.28CideI want to change that to the start
00:40.14KirovYou can hack it
00:40.16KirovI think
00:40.40KirovHighlight the first character of the string, then insert back in that same character.
00:42.06Cideah, awesome :) thanks
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01:54.55warlahmm
01:55.13warlaare there lua function to determine the language in which the wowclient runs?
01:55.20warlalike german / french e.t.c
01:55.25MentalPowerGetLocale()
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01:55.46MentalPowerreturns "enUS", "frFR" and others
01:55.52warlaahh nice
01:55.59warlaand thats accurate
01:56.02MentalPowerthere are also some globals defiined for the different distributions
01:56.15warlathx much
01:56.15Temwill it return enGB when appropriate?
01:56.24MentalPower(if you want to distinguish between enUS and enGB)
01:56.26Temor will it still return enUS?
01:56.31MentalPowerno you need to look at the globals for that
01:56.33MentalPowerenUS
01:56.48TemI seem to remember something about globals to tell the difference between enUS and enB
01:56.56Temyeah, that's what I thought
01:57.24warlaso basically all i need to do is grab GetLocale()
01:57.37warlaand use first 2 letters to determine languiage?=
01:57.45warlaen = english
01:57.49warlafr = french
01:57.52warlade = german
01:57.56zenzelezzwould be funny if they had a variable called "colour", which was true for enGB and false for enUS
01:57.58warlaright?
01:57.58TemlanguageLOCALE
01:58.48MentalPowertechnically its languagecodeCOUNTRYCODE
01:58.54MentalPoweras defined by ISO
01:59.03warlak cool
01:59.12warlaso i just cut off capital letters?
01:59.19warlato get the language?
01:59.42MentalPowerthere really aren't that many locales, just do a simple string compare
01:59.59warlais there a list of all the wow locales?
02:00.11MentalPowerenUS frFR deDE esES krKR (and the chinese one)
02:00.26TemenUS, enGB, koKR, cnCZ (I think)
02:00.34MentalPoweroh right koKR
02:00.47Temis there an esES now?
02:00.51TemI didn't know about that one
02:01.09MentalPowerzhCN
02:01.13Temyeah!
02:01.14MentalPoweryes spanish
02:01.33Temwhat's the zh stand for?
02:01.40Temthe dialect?
02:01.40MentalPowerand if theres a taiwanese version it would be zhTW
02:01.47MentalPowerchinese
02:02.08Temright, I know what language it refers to, I'm just curious about the letter choise
02:02.14Temchoice*
02:02.16MentalPowerdunno
02:02.24MentalPowerISO is wierd like that sometimes
02:02.39Temaye
02:02.43MentalPowers/sometimes/most of the time/
02:02.58Temhehe
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02:08.26warlahmm does anyne know in what format blizzard stores special chars like ö ä ü  etc
02:09.00warlaappears to be a 2 byte char
02:09.00MentalPowerescape sequenses
02:09.03MentalPoweryes
02:09.07MentalPowerUTF-8
02:09.14warlaUTF-8 ok
02:09.15MentalPowersorry, was thinking of something else
02:10.29malrethutf8 can be anywhere from 1 to 4 bytes long depending on the character
02:10.36MentalPoweryep
02:14.46fatbrainutf-8 has it all, almost anyway
02:24.59IndustrialWhats the difference between enGB and enUS? theres no colour but color in enGB :P
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02:31.26Esamynnanyone have any experience with the OnDoubleClick handler?
02:32.21MentalPowerO.O theres such a thing?
02:32.29Esamynnapparently so
02:32.36MentalPowernews to me
02:33.01Esamynna random button returned true for HasScript("OnDoubleClick")
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02:42.46EsamynnIndustrial: slight differences in URLS and such, other than that, I don't think there is any difference
02:43.05Industrialoh great so i could just have changed my realmlist.wtf
02:43.12Industrialand play on US with my enGB client
02:43.14Industrialall patched up
02:43.19Esamynnyes you could
02:43.28Esamynnyou could do that with any client
02:43.31Industrialtaking me 4 hours to download install and update enUS
02:43.38Esamynnall of the servers are multi-lingual
02:43.44zenzelezzask first next time =D
02:43.59Industrialyea :(
02:44.10Industrialcus Im an EU player but Im getting me an us account
02:44.11Industrial:>
02:44.29Industrialhurry!
02:44.43Industrialmeh the dude already gave me user/pass just not the secret question
02:44.51IrielGood luck with that, hopefully it's not a scam
02:45.01Industrialno, its not
02:45.05zenzelezzfriend?
02:45.10Industrialsomeone from here
02:45.12Industrial;)
02:45.33Industrialif he shits me well poo lost 20$
02:45.34abugif it's cogwheel, he can't be trusted
02:45.46Industriali get a 50 warrior for free
02:45.52Industrial\o/
02:46.04zenzelezz"Do you trust him?" "No, but he is my friend"
02:49.00Industrialfaster faster, all i wanna do is login once and see the warrior there and go to bed cause its 5am and i got school in 5 hours
02:49.04Industrial:(
02:52.19Industrialk nn
02:52.48Cairennnight Industrial
02:53.45KaeltenAwaynight guys
02:54.59Cairennnight KaeltenAway
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03:01.28tyroneyOk, I still haven't made my critter targetting assit.  But I have an additional related idea:  wait for mouseovers, or maybe the tooltip, and if it's something relatively small or special, drop some kind of ping at that cursor location.  Imagine how much easier it would be to find certain herbs.
03:02.09abugnot a bad idea
03:02.34tyroneyI sorta like it.
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03:17.09Serachtquick question
03:17.10Serachtwhat is oSkin
03:17.56abugwhere do you see it?
03:18.02Serachton ui forums
03:20.52abugbeats me
03:21.49abugoh it's an addon somebody made
03:23.57Serachtya
03:24.04Serachtgot a site for it?
03:24.04SerachtI cannot find it anywhere :s
03:24.05Cairennhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2034.0 <== oSkin
03:24.20Serachtwowace is back up?!?!
03:24.22Serachtyay
03:24.26Cairennup and down
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03:57.07warlaanyone here who has a german wow client?
04:00.43Kirkburn|VistaWhy is it that some people who come to the wiki are so full of themselves that they can't take advice :/ That's the second time now someone has decided they hate me for daring to give them advice ...
04:01.15Kirkburn|Vista(this guy hates me especially for adding a smiley at the end of it!)
04:01.16warlalol
04:01.18MentalPowerdon't take it personal
04:01.20Kirkburn|Vista(the horror!)
04:01.40Kirkburn|VistaOh, I don't, I smile at their foolishness =) http://www.wowwiki.com/User_talk:Vaschellie
04:02.34Kirkburn|Vista(look at his contribs list to see what I mean)
04:03.22MentalPowerhow do you do that?
04:04.21Kirkburn|VistaBottom left column
04:04.32Kirkburn|Vistaor: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Contributions/Vaschellie :)
04:05.03Kirkburn|VistaI should add a notice to the front page "This is not wikipedia! We allow friendliness here!"
04:06.33MentalPowerwow, friendly user...
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04:14.45Kirkburn|VistaBy his logic, I should be threatening to blow up the wiki with " all the d00dsp33k, acronyms, irrelevant crap people can't resist posting, or ranting style sections that have profanity in them". How dare they sully the green, green fields of a wiki their mutinous opinions and advice!
04:14.47abugrevert wars are fun
04:15.40Kirkburn|VistaI'm surprised the guy even thinks I'm going to ban him for having an opinion :/
04:16.11zenzelezzl2troll ;-p
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04:17.35cladhaireKirkburn|Vista: hahaha thats awesome.
04:18.04Kirkburn|Vista=P
04:19.04abughe's gonna QQ when he sees the API section
04:21.29Kirkburn|VistaThe stuff he's supposedly been cleaning up so far has been: one reference to 'portal bitch', one smiley, some useful info regarding storm crow form, a paragraph that referenced the opinions of wiki users, a link to a neutral article about Palehoof, a signature on a 'class build article' (which always includes them normally)
04:23.00Kirkburn|VistaI mean, wouldn't you rant if you saw an emoticon on a instance guide page?
04:23.42Kirkburn|Vista"Christ almighty, look he smiled! Shoot him! SHOOT THE B******!"
04:26.13abug"Because of his low level, attackable status, and Moonbrook's proximity to Stranglethorn Vale, griefing Alliance players on the Defias Traitor quest has become something of a Horde national pastime on PVE servers."
04:26.34abuga great wiki contribution from your friend
04:27.05PlorkyeranThat's not just a horde pastime
04:28.03Kirkburn|Vistaheh
04:28.27Kirkburn|VistaThe alliance can attack him too?
04:30.01abugis an alpha model screenshot okay if one picture of the model was already released?
04:30.21PlorkyeranOnly right before he triggers the quest completion
04:30.23PlorkyeranIt's kinda funny
04:31.08PlorkyeranAt least the last time I did it, he goes hostile to all, completes the quest, then despawns
04:31.12Kirkburn|Vistaabug, what kind of picture?
04:31.38abugthe storm crow picture
04:31.54Kirkburn|VistaWe've only got the one from behind, no?
04:32.07abugit's got one from what looks like wowmodelview right now
04:32.19Kirkburn|VistaI will say ... ye-es. Go on.
04:32.44abughttp://www.wowwiki.com/Image:StormCrow.png
04:32.50Kirkburn|VistaIt's not scenery and it is something they've released, so yeah =) (also, the beta isn't so far off now :P)
04:33.38Kirkburn|VistaLooks okay to me. If someone complains, I will have to remove it though
04:34.04abugI'm not complaining
04:35.01Kirkburn|VistaOh, I thought you were uploading it
04:35.22abugoh I was referring to the one I linked before
04:35.29Kirkburn|Vista=P
04:37.43Kirkburn|VistaG'night all
04:38.14abuggood night
04:41.01clad|sleepNight all
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04:45.19Nomad_WandererAny priests here? or ppl interested in mana regeneration forumlas?
04:46.07Nomad_WandererThere's a great thread on the priest forums that really breaks gear comparison down to talents, 5 second rule, and length of combat.
04:46.55Nomad_WandererThere's even some tools that help evaluate gear.. you specify the attributes of the 2 pieces of gear, the % time in 5sr, and the length of the battle, and it will tell you which provides more mana.
04:47.24Nomad_WandererThe tool I just downloaded is .net, but I don't understand why it couldn't be .lua.
04:47.59Nomad_WandererI.e. It looks at what you got equipped, and the settings you provide (battle length and 5sr%) and tells you if the loot that just dropped is better for the settings you provided.
04:48.34Nomad_WandererI'm talking to a dead channel again .... I hate when that happens. damn Barleywines.
04:49.27Cairennmmmm, love those :)
04:49.33Cairenngot any red ones left?
04:49.38Nomad_WandererSure.
04:49.50Cairennthose ones are the best
04:49.51Nomad_Wandererit's starting to be barleywine season..
04:57.30Cairennhe's right, the channel is asleep :p
04:57.51zenzelezzno it's not
04:57.54zenzelezzit's just pondering
04:57.58zenzelezzin silence
04:58.48zenzelezzor in quiet contemplation, if you prefer
04:59.40zenzelezzbut you did catch the reference?
05:00.07Cairennnope
05:00.11zenzelezz/mourn
05:00.39Cairennit's late, I'm tired, clue me in, I'll go ahead and feel stupid for having missed it
05:00.40zenzelezz"In quiet contemplation, you mourn the death of <target>"
05:01.06Cairennah
05:01.18Cairennyup, feel stupid now *nod*
05:01.49zenzelezzwhy would you? The phrase could have been from anywhere
05:03.06zenzelezzI'm having trouble deciding whether to keep my old Moonsaber pet, the new Stranglethorn Tiger pet, or both :-o
05:03.47Cairennheh
05:12.05abugLOUD NOISES
05:12.31abugsorry I couldn't hold back
05:13.24Cairenneek
05:14.21abugwhat's up with the curse animosity towards this channel?
05:16.33Cairennyou'd have to ask them
05:17.50abugah nevermind
05:18.05Cairenn?
05:18.41abugI don't know, I'm tired and confused
05:18.47Cairennheh
05:20.11Cairennwhy do you ask? were there comments made in there?
05:20.33abugI was reading some old thread on curse when they started their IRC
05:20.40Cairennah, that
05:21.56abugdid you know that American Buffalos are the same thing as American Bison?
05:22.15CairennI asked NeT to ask one member to stay out of the channel because I was tired of his disruptions.  Other members of the curse staff are still welcome in here (the channel is non-partisan) and have been (although I'm not seeing werik in here at present).
05:23.08CairennBut no, CG wasn't banned from the channel.  No one was.  One member was *asked* to stay out.
05:23.19abugsorry to bring it up
05:23.28IrielIIRC he wasn't affiliated with curse at the time, either
05:23.33CairennNo skin off my nose.
05:23.42CairennIriel: yes, he is
05:23.55IrielHe is now, I know, but at the time he was asked to stay away, was he?
05:24.26CairennHe was banned under his old name.  He was allowed back in on a second chance because NeT asked me to allow it.  It was after he continued to disrupt the channel under the new name that I requested NeT to pull him from the channel.
05:25.33IrielOh, more childish than I thought.. thanks for the clarification.
05:25.45CairennNo problem.
05:26.42CairennI have no problem with CG, never did. Staff from any of the sites are welcome in here.  I host it, but it isn't a "WoWInterface" channel, it's a dev channel.  *An* individual was *asked* to stay out.  /shrug
05:58.59zenzelezzI wish tamed pets didn't shrink... it looks like these tigers are trying to beat up their little brother
05:59.09Cairennhehehe
06:02.39Cairennnight guys
06:02.45zenzelezzsweet dreams
06:08.27Corrodiasyou know the funny parrt
06:08.31Corrodiasi'm sitll numb
06:08.41Corrodiascan't feel much in my handds or such
06:08.56Corrodiasdidn't fall over, though
06:09.12Corrodiasweird thing is my teeth numb. feels strange.
06:11.25Corrodiasyou spin the channel and i am not pleased
06:13.00Corrodiasstrawberry schnapps and pineapple juice, that's the ticket. add some club soda and you've got it better than sex.
06:14.27Corrodiasof course i've never had sex so it's mostly speculation, there
06:14.56Temthat's not something a sober person would normally admit
06:15.01Temyou, sir, are drunk
06:15.12Corrodiasmr sherlock there, give him the prize
06:15.43Corrodiasmy friend has bee nreading the sherlock stuff and did you know he said that he never says, "elementary, my dear watson"?
06:18.26Corrodiaswhat's up with that
06:19.09zenzelezzsame as with the... that Japanese admiral whose name I never remember
06:19.32zenzelezzhe said something similar to what everyone says he said, but there's no records showing he ever said it like he's quoted
06:19.43Corrodiasyeah
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06:23.32AenslaedI fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve?
06:23.49zenzelezzyes, that one
06:23.59AenslaedYamamoto
06:25.19zenzelezzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto%27s_sleeping_giant_quote
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06:42.04Corrodiasi bet drunk AV will be better than normal AV
06:42.15Corrodiasi hope it makes me care less that our win percentage is only about 30
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06:46.10krka|workdamn it, my debian machine shut down on its own an hour ago
06:46.16krka|workanyone of you hacked into it?
06:46.39MoonWolfno not really.
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06:59.54Temkrka|work, oh, did my timebomb finally go off?
07:00.11krka|work:(
07:00.12TemI forgot to put a proper timer on it so I wasn't sure how long it would take..
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07:01.00ckknighthey, all
07:01.14zenzelezzheya
07:01.50krka|workhm, could be acpi weirdness i guess
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07:21.12SH|Shabador~seen ckknight
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07:21.31SH|ShabadorOops
07:21.31SH|ShabadorWrong channel
07:21.46SH|ShabadorOh. Purl is here as well.
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09:27.54Corrodiaswhoa, AV weekend brings in the rep by the bucketload
09:28.40Corrodiasi'd have to play like 8 games to get the rep i've gotten in 3 games tonight on a normal day
09:35.03Corrodiashowever, due to the changes, i don't have the money to buy riding skill, now, so there's no point in me staying up extra late just to hit exalted with frostwolf
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11:19.13MikkJoshBork1: heya. you were looking for me yesterday?
11:21.24JoshBork1Mikk: yea
11:21.59JoshBork1Mikk: I installed wowbench last night (mostly successfully).  it loads my addon but not my xml frame
11:22.15JoshBork1which kinda borkes the whole thing :_(
11:22.19Mikkoho
11:22.37Mikkgimme an url to your addon
11:23.01JoshBork1http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=5370
11:25.37Mikk<Gradient>
11:25.39Mikkmkay
11:25.40JoshBork1Mikk: i eliminated the GRadient portions ;-)
11:26.05JoshBork1by just commenting them out
11:26.09JoshBork1still wouldn't load the XML
11:26.16MikkAight. I'm on it.
11:26.27MikkI just woke up tho so it's a bit slow going ;)
11:26.55JoshBork1lol, no problemo :_) me too
11:31.02MikkMkay. I added Gradient,MinColor,MaxColor
11:31.03MikkNow it loads
11:31.21JoshBork1can you dump GuildBookFrame?
11:31.27JoshBork1or look GuildBookFrame
11:31.38Mikkno
11:32.03Mikkseems that you're working off of some event that i'm not firing
11:32.07JoshBork1:-( that's what I got too.  i can dump GuildBook but not GuildBookFrame
11:32.25JoshBork1i call GuildBook.OnLoad in the OnLoad of the GuildBookFrame (i think...)
11:33.15JoshBork1yea
11:33.41Mikki wonder if it hates your quoting style
11:34.19JoshBork1but i like my quoting style :-(
11:35.11Mikkhrmphs
11:35.40Corrodiasall i need is miracle; all i need is you
11:35.59Mikkdamnit. where do i go looking to find this stuff...
11:36.22MikkShould be able to do e.g. "dump *GuildBookFrame*"
11:36.25Mikkbut it isn't liking me
11:36.37JoshBork1it's like it isn't parsing the XML
11:37.03Mikkhm no i changed the quoting style
11:37.04Mikkno go
11:37.12JoshBorke:-(
11:38.48Mikkbuah. ok this'll probably take a while. need to tune up full debug output and read through it.
11:38.48Mikkjoy.
11:39.02JoshBork1:-( didn't mean to cause this much trouble...
11:39.15JoshBork1lol
11:39.16Mikknot blaming you. i've obviously screwed up somewhere :-P
11:39.40JoshBork1i put <Script file="GuildBook.lua"/> in the xml.  it loads GuildBook.lua but not GuildBookFrame
11:40.46Mikkgah. i started a full debug output inside quickedit's compile output window
11:40.59Mikknow it's busy spewing tens of thousands of line into a selectbox
11:42.22Mikktoldya i'm not awake yet :-P
11:46.58Mikknope, it really isn't reading the xml file
11:47.15Mikkas in isn't even attempting to poke it
11:48.36Mikkoh.. wonder if it's the optimizing stuff
11:49.04clad|packingsomeone please build a teleporter so I can go home easily tomorrow.
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11:49.07clad|packingerr today
11:49.08clad|packingthanks.
11:49.54Mikkit was >.<
11:50.47Mikkbecause of the original xml error, the xml file never ended up in the dependency list
11:51.17Mikkso it never attempted to recompile it
11:51.23Mikknice bug
11:51.47Mikk"lua wowbench.lua -f GuildBook" solves that bit
11:51.56Mikknow for the unimplemented stuff you're insisting on calling =)
11:52.03krka|workcool read! http://www.grimfandango.net/?page=articles&pagenumber=2
11:52.41JoshBork1eh?
11:53.00JoshBork1you can dump GuildBookFrame now?
11:55.00clad|packingAnyone have a script to drop XML down to lua.. cause I'm being lazy
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11:55.53JoshBork1clad|packing: just convert it to a template :-D
11:55.55MikkJoshBork1: not quite. you're calling some methods that don't exist.
11:56.02Mikkoh
11:56.04Mikki think i got it
11:56.11Mikkyep there we go
11:56.15JoshBork1what method?
11:56.30Mikkdon't remember. look at the svn diffs that i'm posting now or something :-P
11:56.31clad|packingJoshBork1: Eeh.. its an options frame.. converting it to a template is kinda silly
11:56.31clad|packingheh
11:56.51JoshBork1lol
11:56.58JoshBork1ok, i'll do that when i get back to work
11:57.03JoshBork1clad|packing: heh, then why bother? ^_^
11:57.08Mikk"don't exist" == "not implemented in wowbench yet"
11:57.19Mikk(so i made them dummy stubs)
11:57.21JoshBork1bbiab
11:57.37clad|packingJoshBork1: Cause Clique is insanely tiny without it.. heh
12:08.28Hexarobeeok i cant sleep, whats up in here
12:09.19MoonWolfTEH CEILING IS UP
12:09.35MoonWolfat least for most people it is.
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12:50.35Maldiviahmm, why do I always end up with 4-5 calcs running, when testing stuff :)
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12:59.26JoshBorkeok i'm back
12:59.43JoshBorkewho uses bitchx?
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13:05.46krka|workyou don't use a bitchx, that's degrading!
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13:09.37JoshBorkesorry, coludn't handle bitchx, i need some sort of shortcut to switch rooms
13:09.42JoshBorkeand i need timestamps...
13:09.47krka|workuse irssi :)
13:09.50[Ammo]try irssi joshborke
13:09.55krka|workirssi is FTW
13:09.55[Ammo]hmm :)
13:09.59cladhairei need to get back to irssi
13:10.03cladhaire*le sigh*
13:10.15[Ammo]irssi is very nice
13:10.18krka|workmy computer decided to shut itself up this morning, so i have to use xchat from work :/
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13:13.15JoshBorkei know not what i do
13:13.26JoshBorkeMikk: where is the svn stuff for wowbench?
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13:14.00JoshBorkeand why doesn't my css load on wowwiki if i have doubleclick.net as 127.0.0.1 :-/
13:14.42JoshBorkeMikk: nvm
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13:19.42cladHrm.. how do I set ircssi to send all messages to a single window
13:19.48cladCAuse I think I might actually prefer that
13:20.20[Ammo]clad: www.irssi.org
13:20.25[Ammo]probably some helpfiles there :)
13:20.36cladYeah I know, I'm looking.. just didnt know if anyone knew offhand
13:20.43[Ammo]nope sorry
13:20.54[Ammo]I kinda like my queries each in a seperate window
13:21.07[Ammo]some people I converse with on a regular basis are under set numbers etc :)
13:21.46cladWell, i'd like pm's in seperate windows.
13:22.02cladwhats the "Cool kids" theme?
13:22.34JoshBorkesorry, you're not a part of the coolkids
13:23.23clad=(
13:24.06[Ammo]rule 1 of the cool kids, you don't talk about the cool kids
13:26.17JoshBorkerule 2 of the cool kids, you don't talk about the cool kids!
13:29.30Legorolhow long is Global Cooldown? 1 sec or 1.5 sec?
13:29.47Kaso1.5
13:29.55Legoroleek, when did that change
13:31.24Kasoim pretty sure its been like that for a long time
13:31.33LegorolO.o
13:32.06KasoI know when i first got 3/8 prophecy it annoyed me that i couldnt spam my 1.4 sec cast falsh heal properly
13:32.26Legoroli remember when I started, thinking to myself "not worth getting Improved AE beyond 2 points, no point in reducing it below 0.9 seconds cast time"
13:33.08Kasohe
13:33.45Legorolwell my thought was, i can't spam it faster than once per second anyway, so what's the point of reducing the cast time
13:34.04[Ammo]global cooldown for weaponchange for rogues is 1 second though
13:34.08[Ammo]not really global but meh
13:34.53krka|workglobal should mean that all rogues on the server would suffer!
13:34.53krka|workthat would rock
13:34.53[Ammo]hehe
13:34.54Kasothought it was 1 second for warriors and 0.5 for rogues?
13:35.10Legorol1.5 for warriors, i'm sure about that
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13:35.30[Ammo]1 second for rogues afaik
13:35.55Kasoyah you're correct
13:36.07Kasojust looked in patch.txt
13:36.40KasoThey should make the cooldown as long as your mainhand swing timer, stop rogues doing that annoying Sap+ expose armor thing
13:37.04Legorolso why was i thinking global CD is 1 sec
13:37.19cladhaireLegorol: Dunno, its always been 1.5 for anyone other than rogues and cat form druids =(
13:37.31Legorolnot weapon switch cooldown, but spell-cast
13:37.36[Ammo]1.5 always afaik
13:37.41cladhaireIts always been that way
13:37.43Legorolwhen i had improved slam, i could spam it non-stop
13:37.50Legorolit's a 1 sec casting time spell
13:38.03Legorolhm, maybe it was just an illusion
13:38.23cladhaireOkay, can anyone tell me how to change which channel I'm talking to in irssi without having to type /join each time?  I'm sure there has to be a binding, but I can't find it.
13:38.35cladhaireLegorol: Hrm, wonder if latency came into play or something odd.
13:38.47Legorolyah probably
13:39.03Legorol0.5 is short enough that it would be taken up by latency, the flashing effect of the casting bar etc.
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13:47.29JoshBorkethe 1.5sec global cooldown wasn't put in until around patch 1.7 or 1.8 i think
13:47.31JoshBorkeor i tohught at least
13:49.05Kasothe weapon switch one was 1.7
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14:01.48cladhairewhoa.
14:01.55Cidemorning cladhaire!
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14:03.16cladhaireHeyas.. i'm getting confused
14:03.39[Ammo]correct now!
14:03.40[Ammo];)
14:04.44cladhaireBah, I need an irssi guru =(
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14:04.46cladhaireI'm feeling useless.
14:04.53cladhaireI mean, I kinda am useless.. but that's besides the point.
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14:18.00JoshBorkeclad: you figure it out?
14:18.34cladhaireNo, actually.
14:18.47cladhaireI'm trying to get a split window setup, but I think my desires are odd compared to most.
14:18.48JoshBorkei'm gonna try turning off autocreate_windows
14:18.51cladhairehence whey I can't get any help =(
14:18.58JoshBorkeheh, i'm going for the same setup ;-)
14:19.15cladhaireIdeally, I'll have everything in one window.. but have a easy way to change conversations.
14:19.48cladhaireOtherwise, it'd be nice to have split window for each channel, but have the same traffic go to another window (all channels).  Then I could use windows to change between convos, and monitor everything.
14:20.27cladhaireLet me know if you find anything out =)
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14:21.11JoshBorkehm
14:21.53cladhaireis that a good or a bad "hm"?
14:22.05JoshBorkebad hm :-)
14:22.09JoshBorkewell, more indifferent hm
14:22.15JoshBorkei got 1 window though! :-D
14:22.41JoshBorkei'll probablly go with trying to make meta+<number> to switch between where i send messages
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14:23.13cladhaireHrm..
14:23.34cladhairebrb
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14:27.34JoshBorkehrm
14:27.55JoshBorkehow can i force the background to be black in irssi?
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14:28.56krka|workfix your terminal settings :)
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14:35.09JoshBorkehrm
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14:38.04JoshBorkei'mma talk here because 1) it's quiet, 2) i keep forgetting to switch back
14:38.34JoshBorkeit's ok, i've never used console irc :-D
14:38.49cladhaireLike I was saying, I'm not completely stupid.. but its been 10 years since i've used console irc.
14:39.04cladhaireThis is the first community I've been in in a long time that actually used irc.
14:39.04JoshBorkei saw :-)
14:39.14cladhaireand I'm quite.. particular with my needs =)
14:39.22JoshBorkei can see ;-)
14:39.24cladhairea "picky asshole" one might say
14:39.50cladhairephyber: I was using BitchX base mostly
14:39.55cladhairecause I was able to get it working how I wanted it.
14:40.00phybercladhaire: ahh
14:40.07phyberalso, wrong channel, but never mind ;)
14:40.28cladhairephyber: No, I didnt want to change back.. and this is where we're discussing it.   That was a decision not a mistake =)
14:40.37phyberohh. \o/
14:41.47JoshBorkebrb
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14:41.59cladhaireGonna go configure some things, and I'll be right back imo
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14:46.34JoshBorkeoh dear
14:46.45phyber?
14:46.51JoshBorkesomething is not right
14:47.03phyberwhat did you bork?
14:47.10JoshBorkelol, i have no idea
14:47.20JoshBorkeoh, ok
14:47.23JoshBorkei think i see it
14:47.38JoshBorkemy statusbar is changing so i get confused
14:47.52JoshBorkeand i guess i don't have sticky windows on
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14:49.11JoshBorkeok, good, i'm back to the default
14:49.13JoshBorkethat was weird
14:52.27TS|SkromIs there a list of what API calls require a hardware event?
14:52.39JoshBorkelook for ones that say PROTECTED on the API page
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14:52.55JoshBorkecladhaire: wb
14:53.09cladhaireoh hai
14:53.13TS|SkromCastSpellByName doesn't say protected
14:53.40JoshBorkeoh, i see what you mean
14:53.51JoshBorkeanything that casts a spell requires a hardware event
14:54.03TS|Skromyep, Is there a list of other thing?
14:54.10JoshBorkenot to my knowledge
14:54.10TS|Skromor I guess I could just ask directly lol
14:54.19TS|Skromdoes SetLootMethod require a hardware event?
14:54.24JoshBorkeno
14:54.26cladhaireI don't believe so
14:54.31cladhaireIts just spells and movement
14:54.34JoshBorkecladhaire: you get it worked out?
14:54.49cladhaireJoshBorke: Not really.. send me a msg and we'll see if I got that working.
14:54.53cladhaireI need a good theme too
14:55.22phybercladhaire: did you check my screenshot before?
14:55.40cladhairephyber: Yeah, I'm using madcow original righ tnow.. before you said anytyhing.. but its not.. my style.
14:55.45phyberahh
14:56.14phyberif you know what you want, it's fairly simple to mod the theme :)
14:56.27phyberand then just '/reload' to see the changes.
14:56.43JoshBorkebrb
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14:59.03JoshBorkemessage me pwease?
15:00.04JoshBorkeyou want your channels split in the same window and your messages in individual windows?
15:00.50cladhaireJoshBorke: I'd like my channels to all be together, with a way to switch between them.. and messages to pop up as split non-sticky windows, so i can close them when i want to.
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15:04.29cladhaireHrm.. this theme may end up working for me.. but we'll have to see
15:04.32cladhairebrb
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15:05.36JoshBorkewb
15:06.08phybercladhaire: are you editing the ~/.irssi/config and reloading your client to look at the changes?
15:07.09cladhairephyber: No, i only quit the client when I make a change such as window creation, and autojoining.
15:07.20phyberah.
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15:07.33JoshBorkecladhaire: you can use ctrl+x to switch between channels when they all go to the same window
15:07.44cladhaireOH THANK GOD
15:07.45phyberbut you're using the slash commands to do it, right? :)
15:07.55cladhaireyou're a god!
15:08.03JoshBorkelol
15:08.07cladhairefor reals!
15:08.12JoshBorkeso that's the first part
15:08.26JoshBorkeum, i gotta fix my client to have a status window again...
15:08.57cladhaireI like not having a status window.. but I'm weird
15:10.32JoshBorketest
15:10.53JoshBorkecladhaire: i don't know if you can do it automagically...
15:10.55JoshBorkebrb
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15:12.09JoshBorkedangit! it made my status window second
15:12.19JoshBorkewtf
15:12.39cladhaireheh
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15:17.54JoshBorkewaaaa, everything is all fubared now :-(
15:18.00JoshBorkelook what you've done clade!
15:18.02cladhaireHeh, what did you do
15:18.14JoshBorkelol
15:18.54JoshBorkei just want it back to 1 status window, 1 channel window, and 1 messages window
15:19.08cladhaireThen window close everything
15:19.16cladhairemake sure nothing is sticky, and set your settings right =)
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15:20.08JoshBorkethere
15:20.13JoshBorkei'll just save my layout
15:20.16JoshBorkebrb
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15:20.22cladhairelol
15:20.32JoshBorkewahahaha! that worked!
15:21.03JoshBorkebrb again=
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15:21.22JoshBorkehrm, ok so that'll do
15:22.30JoshBorkecladhaire: are you set?
15:22.32JoshBorkejosh: test
15:22.40cladhaireJoshBorke: working on it.. it'll be a bit still
15:22.43cladhairewe'll have to see
15:22.56JoshBorkeJoshBorke: test
15:22.59JoshBorkethat'll do
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15:27.57cladhaireLater all
15:27.57cladhairesee ya when I get home
15:30.49JoshBorkehm
15:30.57JoshBorkethat's better
15:32.05JoshBorkeMikk: you lied to me.  wowbench still doesn't load GuildBook :-(
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15:41.21JoshBorkebah, clad needs to hurry up and get back
15:41.43phyberwhat for?
15:41.55JoshBorkeso i can go over what he wants for his messages window
15:42.00phyberah
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15:45.27Cairenn|sleepyou've got a while to wait, he's got class to attend and his *scheduled* flight isn't until 6pm local time, although he's trying to see if he can get on an earlier flight
15:46.36JoshBorkeoh well
15:46.44JoshBorkeplenty of time for me to write a little script
15:50.06Cairenn|sleepindeed
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16:20.34MikkJoshBorke: Try lua wowbench.lua -f GuildBook
16:21.37JoshBorkedump GuildBookFrame => Contents of GuildBookFrame = nil
16:21.44Mikko.O
16:21.52JoshBorkei did a svn co earlier
16:21.52MikkDid you get the newest from sf.net SVN?
16:21.55Mikkk
16:22.13JoshBorkehow can i see what version i'm using?
16:22.14MikkYou did "-f" ?
16:22.29JoshBorkerevision 127
16:22.35JoshBorkelua wowbench -f Guildbook
16:22.38Mikkk
16:24.42Mikkgranted i fiddled with your xml file
16:24.47Mikktesting with original zip
16:24.53Mikkaha
16:25.46JoshBorkeman, links aren't clickable in irssi :-(
16:26.06Mikkthat'd be a function of your terminal program, no?
16:26.29JoshBorkeMikk: i guess, i dunno. :-D  i'm just using screen
16:27.25Mikk["name"] ="'GuildBookFrame'",
16:27.33MikkYep, it's your quoting style that's tripping up the parser
16:27.39JoshBorke:-(
16:27.41JoshBorkeok, i'll fix it
16:27.44MikkI guess I'll have to fix the parser
16:27.49MikkSince that style works with wow
16:28.32JoshBorkeWOOHOOO! WORKS!
16:30.05JoshBorkethanks mikk
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16:34.43MikkMeh. I'm just sorry I screwed up :<
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16:50.18Cairennpoints for courtesy (nice change) but oh my ... "Hello all and well met, I write this today because i am having ui issues for whatever reason is unknown. Let me explain some, Some ui's i can use and they play fine. Some ui's i use just freeze the game and sound continues to play. Does anyone else have this problem. If anyone has can u please respond how ya fixed it. Thanks alot"
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16:51.03Cairenn"Help, it doesn't work" is much too vague. Give us specific mod names, etc.
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16:59.16Kasosomeone just posted help it doesnt work?
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17:01.28Hexarobeehelp, it doesnt work!!!
17:01.46Beladonakick it harder?
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17:05.32KamarisMikk: ping
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17:07.58KamarisAnyone here know of any quick wowbench tutorials that are a bit more involved than what's posted on wowwiki?
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17:13.00LeprknSo...
17:17.10TS|Skromyeah I'm feeling pretty good today :D
17:17.11MikkKamaris: What do you need to know?
17:17.17TS|SkromJust uploaded my third addon to curse :)
17:17.34KamarisMikk: i'm rereading the wowwiki docs
17:17.51MessEdUpI'm looking to learn a bit about addons, I have some basic scripting low level knowleddge.
17:17.53MikkWell, re-poke me when you know in which direction you need expanding.
17:17.57Kamarisrgr
17:18.05Kamaristy for the response
17:18.08MikkNps =)
17:18.08MessEdUpI'm trying to get my feet wet, and I have a buddy I would like to help
17:18.28MessEdUpI am curious if there is a way to force the UI to save macro definitions
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17:20.29Beladonamacro definitions?
17:20.54MessEdUpwell, from what I ave seen, when you make a change to a macro it is only temporary
17:21.08MessEdUpif the game ccrashes before a successful logout you lose those changes
17:21.46MessEdUpafter you log out, it seems those changes are dumped to a file in your WTF dir
17:22.10TS|SkromI would imagine it works just like saved variables. Only saved on log out or reload
17:22.18Meryyes, this is to prevent botting (getting data out of the client to disk in realtime)
17:22.19Beladonaaye
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17:23.15Meryyou can do a /script ReloadUI() to force a write of teh settings without logging out at the cost of the reloading time
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17:24.19MessEdUpOkay
17:24.57Mikk<PROTECTED>
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17:26.09KirovIriel - http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/wow/Calamity.rar my still in progress options menu for an event watcher.
17:26.51Kirovit's rather painfully inefficient memory wise, but it works and is dynamicly generated from any event it sees.
17:27.01Kirov(currently I don't include an event list)
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17:33.02Maldiviakirov: register all events? :)
17:33.34KirovMaldivia - yes, but you have to see the event at least once to be able to turn it on / off.
17:33.59MaldiviaOK
17:33.59Kiroveek
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17:35.31KirovJoshBorke - ?
17:35.36MikkThere is. Under WoWBench. Except it doesn't return anything useful if you're doing RegisterAllEvents :-P
17:35.51KirovMikk - heh
17:36.17Kamarishmm
17:36.22Kamarisi should have kept a local copy of my mod
17:36.30Kamarisi don't want to rewrite all the UI stuff :/
17:36.31Kirov?
17:36.31JoshBorkeworking on getting irssi set up
17:36.36Hexarobeerailguns are so old school, bowlingball canons are in this season
17:36.37MaldiviaKirov: yeah, I've sometimes wished there were :IsEventRegistered and :GetRegisteredEvents
17:36.55MentalPowerin your defense Mikk, Lua is not an easy language to parse
17:37.09JoshBorkedon't defend Mikk!
17:37.09MentalPowerwhoa, scrolled up and didn't notice
17:37.54KasoJust hook registerevent and Unregisterevent then keep a track of whats registerd yourself :>
17:37.55KirovMaldivia - I think slouken has already said "no" to that request though
17:38.09Kasodont forget to put a couple !! in.
17:38.18MaldiviaKirov: yeah, I know - doesn't mean I couldn't have used them :)
17:38.20cogwheelMentalPower: I would disagree with that ... http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#BNF
17:38.22Kirovkaso - not with RegisterAllEvents
17:38.41kergoth! isnt reliable anyway
17:40.44Kaso-- not sure what to do here
17:40.50MentalPowerits pseudo-guaranteed in Windows, it doesn't work in Macs
17:41.02Kasothats what i put in the code for hookihn register all events :>
17:41.32KirovKaso - hmm?
17:41.44kergothdoesn't work on all windows machines, its dependent on the filesystem. also doesn't work in linux under windows emulation :)
17:42.12Kasoi was playing with events a couple weeks ago and i made an addon that allows me to track what frames have what registered, but alas i didnt know what to do on RegisterAllEvents()
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17:42.42Maldiviacogwheel: yeah, agree - don't see why lua should be that hard to parse
17:42.51MikkKaso: All you can do is hook the handler given in RegisterAllEvents() and see what pops in, really.
17:42.59MikkThen again, RegisterAllEvents() is kind of a debug thing
17:43.12MaldiviaRegisterAllEvents is labeled "dont use it" :)
17:43.25Kasoyah, i just left it hoping it'd never occur
17:43.34MikkIt's not that interesting tbh
17:43.43MikkJust note that the frame has registered for "all events"
17:43.57Mikk(I assume it's some kind of debugging utility you're doing?)
17:44.06KirovKaso - the only thing you can do with RegisterAllEvents is mark the frame registered with all known events.
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17:44.29Kasomy addon was to create fake event calls
17:44.39MentalPowercogwheel: the syntax looks easy enough, but there are quite a few gotchas
17:44.40Kasoalso to block real event calls but thats seperate
17:44.58MentalPower[[]] nesting, "''" and others
17:45.05KirovKaso - doing combat log replacement?
17:45.29Kirovwell, combat event message re-patternization
17:45.55MaldiviaMentalPower: there's no [[ ]] nesting in 5.1 ?
17:46.08MentalPowerexactly my point
17:46.16MaldiviaMentalPower: it's [[ [=[ [==[ .... ]==] ]=] ]] there, right?
17:46.20MentalPoweryep
17:46.42MentalPowerthey had to chenge the syntax to avoid the ambiguities(sp?)
17:46.51Kasono attually, my ultimate aim was to allow dynamic group movment in raids without the normal client lag that'd cause, but after researching a bit i realeased it was not viable.
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17:48.10cogwheeloh... i see.... like this? array1[array2[index]]
17:49.11cogwheelyeah... surround that with a comment and you've got trouble...
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17:51.48cogwheelis devour magic an auto-cast on felhunters?
17:52.06MentalPowercogwheel: another good catch
17:52.16MentalPoweryes its auto-cast
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18:00.33LeprknI've got a funky problem here....
18:00.35Temis this channel less dead than others today?
18:01.26LeprknI'm only running CT_Mod and CT_RA, every so often my chat windows just disapper on me and I have to recreate the windows. Anyone else run into that?
18:01.49MessEdUpTheres a post in the Blizzard UI & Mod forum addressing that
18:01.57KirovLeprkn - it's a Blizzard bug, has nothing to do with CT stuff
18:02.00cogwheelLeprkn: it's a known bug on Blizzard's end
18:02.05Leprkngreat
18:02.15Leprkni seem to be the only one in my guild that's had that happen
18:02.21cogwheelThere's a workaround in one of the stickies in the UI & Macros forum
18:03.33Leprknso i didn't think it was a mod issue, but figured if I created a GM ticket they'd go the cut and paste "Delete your UIs" reply :'(
18:03.59TemI think the answer may actually be in the "known issues" sticky in the tech support forum
18:04.09TemI can't remember where I read it, but I wanna say it was there
18:04.22Kirovhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11381215&sid=1
18:04.34kergothi wish addons would make sure chatframe2 is visible before adding messages to it.  i "removed" my chatframe2 and it keeps coming back as a result of those addmessages
18:04.36kergothannoying as hell
18:05.56Temheh
18:06.03MentalPowererm... afaik it shoudn't come back, but those messages will be lost
18:07.17kergothfigured that might be the case, in which case i'll start cursing blizzard instead
18:09.41Endsending :AddMessage() to a hidden frame won't show it.
18:09.45Leprknthanks, i'mma try turning off that "autojoin looking for guild" option
18:10.04kergothwell making my addons check for IsVisible before doing so results in my chatframe2 staying removed.  if they dont, it comes back on reload
18:10.08kergothso *shrug*
18:10.40Endwelll
18:10.42EndI dunno
18:11.15kergothseems to be a recent phenomenon, i presume somebody broke something
18:11.18EndI tried :AddMessage() to ChatFrame3 after "removing" it
18:11.24Endand it stayed removed
18:11.28kergothhmm
18:11.28kergothweird
18:12.09Temhow did you remove it kerg?
18:12.18Temsame question to you, end\
18:12.57Endvia remove window on the tab menu
18:13.03kergothsame
18:14.15Temkerg: hook the frame's Show and print a debugstack when it gets called
18:14.31kergothgood idea
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18:15.07Temor, a personal favorite, ChatFrame2.Show = error
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18:16.19Temok... now it's really time for my exam...
18:16.48Tem(as opposed to an hour ago when my ipod's clock had the wrong time...)
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18:25.37cogwheelwiki entry for UnitHelath says it returns points only for party members. does this include raid members?
18:25.44Kirovhttp://www.licketyship.com/indexSearch.php
18:25.54Kirovcogwheel - yes
18:26.11KirovUnitHealth returns proper numbers for anyone in your group.
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18:38.00Maldiviacogwheel: returns true values, if the unit is in your group/raid, including pets.
18:38.39cogwheelMaldivia: got that... changed the wiki to make it more clear (it specifically said "party")
18:39.33Maldiviacogwheel: "target" will also return true values, if your target is in your raid
18:40.39JoshBorkewb bela
18:41.04Beladonahiya
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18:48.00Beladonawdn has 2 unique visits in Irvine, CA. I wonder if they are Blizz employees
18:48.05Beladona=D
18:49.27MentalPowerdoesn't Iriel live there?
18:51.44KirovBeladona - Could be part of Blizzards legal team.
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18:58.44Mikkhehe
18:59.00Mikk"uuuuuhrvine, uuuuuhrvine, having fun in uuuuuuhrviiiiine!"
18:59.09MikkDrive by sweatering! "Here, take this!" *floff*
19:01.19Mikk</Pablo Francesco>
19:02.29BeladonaKirov: Legal team can't come after me. I don't have any content on wdn that isn't freely available to anyone
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19:08.43cladhaireHey all
19:11.02Cairennwelcome back cladhaire
19:12.04Beladonadarnit, I missed it
19:12.06Beladonaahehe
19:15.14IrielI'm in Northern California
19:15.30IrielNot southern
19:17.15BeladonaSanFran?
19:23.06IrielThat's where I work
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19:47.06Industrialwoah ok what just happened was scary
19:47.24IndustrialI have the enUS client, and changed the realmlist.wtf to eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
19:47.28Industrialwhere I have an account
19:47.43Industrial1 UD female priest and 1 NE hunter level 3 on another server
19:47.58Industriallogged onto the other server, and theres a level 3 druid there
19:48.02Industrialwith my name and everything
19:48.06IndustrialI swear
19:48.08Industrial:O
19:48.17MentalPowerhacked account?
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19:48.34Industrialnah
19:48.39Kirkburn|Vistaold age?
19:48.47IndustrialI always play on it
19:48.50Industrial..
19:49.10Industrialfreeky
19:49.11Industrial:P
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19:49.34Industriallo clad
19:49.53jnwhiteho hai
19:50.03jnwhitehhrm.. i need to make some more adjustments it appears
19:50.19jnwhitehbrb
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19:51.14jnwhitehAah yes.. there we go.. much better
19:51.39Industrialcustom client? no ctcp version reply
19:51.40Industrial:P
19:51.49jnwhiteho rly?
19:51.49Industrialoh there we go
19:51.54Industriallag
19:56.03JoshBorkeblah
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19:58.16Kirochisuuuuuppp
19:58.30jnwhitehHowdy
19:58.56Kirochifinee
19:59.10KirochiARR !
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20:07.47Cairenn~logs
20:07.48purlapt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz, or updated "nightly"
20:09.15Cairennwelcome sweetie
20:13.29jaxdahle^x sees 42 running down the street screaming
20:14.00jaxdahle^x asks 42, "what's wrong?"
20:14.07jaxdahl42 says, "There's a differential operator at the end of the street and if he operates on me I'll become nothing!"
20:14.28jaxdahle^x laughs, saying, "I'm e^x, they can't do anything to me!" and walks down to the end of the street to the operator
20:14.39jaxdahland says, "I'm e^x, you can't do anything to me!"
20:14.47jaxdahlthe operator says, "Hello, i'm d/dy"
20:16.55jaxdahlglad to see i'm not the only one that took calc
20:18.55PlorkyeranThat's awful
20:19.16JoshBorkebrb
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20:23.21KirochiHow do you recognize and old gay man ?
20:23.41EsamynnI don't know, but I bet you're going to tell us
20:23.45KirochiHe can sit on a yoghurt without squeezing it
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20:24.44Kirkburn|VistaPardon? What did you say ... good taste? What's that?
20:24.48Kirochi*BANG*
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20:28.02Kirochiaw sorry for the spamming
20:28.08Kirkburn|Vistaeep
20:28.10Kirovieee
20:28.16KirochiKIrkburn do you know who keeps on submitting alpha images ?
20:28.16JoshBorkesomeone is being stalked ;-)
20:28.37Kirkburn|VistaEr, the guy who just uploaded them? Like 5 mins ago :P
20:28.44Kirochiyep
20:28.53Kirochibut what was his name ?
20:29.03Kirochitheschief
20:29.06Kirkburn|VistaTheschief, I've added a ntoe to his page
20:29.40Kirochihe's gonna get a wedgie or I'm not a pirate anymore
20:32.10Kirkburn|VistaYarr
20:32.56KirochiSweet sassy molassey ! Butter my butt and call me a biscuit if with all this loot we ain't got yankee rich !
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20:35.15Beladonabbl, going home
20:42.49Kirkburn|VistaKirochi|AFK, Gryphen - this may help :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Upload
20:43.03Gryphen:)
20:44.31jaxdahlKirkburn|Vista, can you add a tip that tells people to source their images if it's related to TBC?
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20:45.58Kirkburn|VistaAdded
20:46.09Mikkhmm.. maybe we should put a big effin STOP UPLOADING TBC ALPHA PICTURES in Special:Upload
20:46.19Mikkoh duh
20:46.22Mikkthat's what you were doing
20:47.06Kirkburn|Vistalol
20:47.20Kirkburn|VistaSilly Mikk =)
20:47.53JoshBorke*yawn*
20:48.07DeepSheeteep
20:48.08DeepSheetback
20:48.13JoshBorkewb
20:49.24DeepSheetKirk why did you say this link would help us ?
20:49.33DeepSheetI know howta use the upload page
20:49.40Gryphenlol
20:49.44Gryphenred text
20:50.00Gryphenregarding previous discussion
20:50.56DeepSheetthe only red text I can see is the wow gold ad
20:51.28GryphenYou don't see "Please do not post images from the BC alpha" ?
20:52.38DeepSheeton Special:Upload ?
20:52.40DeepSheetnay
20:52.41DeepSheetat all
20:53.01Kirkburn|VistaRefresh the page?
20:53.05Gryphenclear cache
20:53.12Kasowhats with the line on DMCA page - "there is no Burning Crusade Friends and Family alpha"
20:53.18DeepSheetaw wait
20:53.23Kirkburn|VistaIt says "Please do not post images from the BC alpha » – If your picture has been officially released, please add the source when you upload. "
20:53.29DeepSheetmaybe tis because I use the french interface ?
20:53.41Kirkburn|VistaKaso, no-one is supposed to know about it :P
20:53.48Kasohaha, i see
20:53.54Kirkburn|VistaCould be, DeepSheet
20:54.11DeepSheet(haha that's what I get for calling you Kirkbum)
20:56.54Kirkburn|Vista:P
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21:09.02JoshBorkewow, i canNOT get used to this one window for all chat thing
21:09.23cogwheel|awayWell, thanks to the changes in Mount cost, i think Cairenn needs to add a random mount macro to the 10 way too frequently asked questions :P
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21:20.50cogwheel|away:(
21:20.58cogwheel|awayKirov, you made it way too easy for him :P
21:21.34Kirovlol
21:21.42Kirovsorry for being helpful
21:21.56cogwheel|away~cheseslap kirov
21:22.01cogwheel|away:(
21:22.05cogwheel|awayi can't spell cheese
21:22.48Kirochit'sheez
21:23.12Kirochi~cheeseslap cogwheel
21:23.13purlACTION slaps cogwheel around with a piece of texas goat cheese
21:23.21Kirochibaaaaaaaaah
21:26.05cogwheel|awayThis guy drives around where i live... http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3305/bigdogsmallcageyo4.jpg
21:30.40Kirovcogwheel|away - where is that?
21:31.04cogwheel|awaysonoma county, CA
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22:01.40Kirkburn|Vistazomg, the Ace svn is back?
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22:02.26Kaeltenyes and mostly functional Kirkburn|Vista :)
22:02.35Kirkburn|Vista<-- happy camper
22:02.45Kirkburn|VistaCongrats to you all =)
22:02.51Kaeltenand coming soon to a website near you, AceUpdate :)
22:03.03KaeltenAceUpdater*
22:03.05Kirkburn|Vistaeven betterer!
22:10.25KirovAceUpdater?
22:10.57KirovIs that like Cosmos Updater, but only uses 1byte of memory?
22:11.10Merylol
22:12.20Cairenn><
22:12.32Cairennplay nice children :p
22:12.54KirochiKirk => can't reply 2 your PM
22:13.06CairennKirochi: you need to be registered
22:13.17CairennKirochi: /msg nickserv register <pw>
22:13.33Cairennthat's all there is to it
22:13.35Kirochipw ?
22:13.44Cairennpassword of your choice
22:13.49Kirochiaw kay
22:14.07Cairennthen any time you log in, /msg nickserv identify <pw>
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22:14.20Cairenn(without the brackets, unless they are part of your pw)
22:14.27sodaking<PROTECTED>
22:14.33Kirochif**k
22:14.43CairennKirochi: ?
22:14.57Kirochilooks like I'm a bit dumb tonight
22:15.02Kirochiwhat's nickserv ?
22:15.04KirochiYer nick ?
22:15.06Kirochiplain ?
22:15.08Cairennno
22:15.32Cairennit's the server in charge of nicks, hence "nickserv"
22:15.35Kirochipurl, dict nickserv
22:15.41KirochixD
22:16.13sodaking<PROTECTED>
22:17.14Kirochiit works
22:17.17Kirochiyee ha
22:17.30cogwheelsodaking: not really. that would involve an IMMENSE amount of data.
22:17.51cogwheelsodaking: however there are websites that tell you the map locations
22:18.02cogwheeland addons that you can use to mark those locations on the map
22:19.09sodakingcogwheel:actually in CWOW, they have an addon that shows the mob locations on map as well as where to return the quest
22:19.17kergothsodaking: there are, yes.  questhistory or something
22:19.47sodakingkergoth:questhistorymap...but it only shows the location of where u pickup and return the quest, but not the mobs
22:19.52kergothahh
22:20.03KirovCWOW?
22:20.07sodakingchinese wow
22:20.14kergothwell you can use wowkb or the one in metamap to track the locations of all sorts of mobs
22:20.21kergoththen you can search for the mob you're looking for from the quest log
22:20.21sodakingoh
22:20.30sodakingoh
22:21.12sodakingkergoth:what if the quest is to find someone? then i have to use websites?
22:21.59kergothif you havent seen them before, probably, unless you were to import a prepopulated wowkb database
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22:24.18sodakingkergoth:ok thanks ..whats the mob searcher thing for metamap called?
22:25.01kergothits included with metamap, just go into metamap's config and make sure it gets loaded, since that part is load on demand
22:25.24sodakingkergoth:doesnt metamap occupy alot of memory?
22:25.46kergothits somewhat heavy, like 800K for the core, then a bit more for each of the lod addons you want to load
22:26.03sodaking...
22:26.11sodakingokay i am sure to check it out..thanks
22:26.17kergothi dont use the knowledge base myself, and there is a seperate knowledge base addon, wowkb, but the metamap guy made some changes to it when he pulled it in, i dont know whether those changes are beneficial or not
22:26.22kergothi think the old wowkb is unmaintained
23:05.47KirochiBueno, a lo largo pienso que ya es tiempo que creemos un Wiki de World of Warcraft en Español
23:05.57Kirochiquien esta de acuerdo ?
23:06.24KirochiVaya hombres, no me decis que sois todos AFK -_-
23:06.53Cairennsorry neighbour, but I don't think there are many (if any) in channel that speak spanish
23:07.24Kirochi:P Just kidding
23:08.19KirochiI wuz just saying that some noble-hearted and bold guy should start a spanish wowwiki ... on his own :p
23:09.48Cairennwell, it'd definitely be nice for the community if the wiki could be translated - into multiple languages
23:10.24Cairennbut I'm not volunteering ;)
23:10.31KirochiI'm on it (not very often but I sometimes contribute to the french wiki)
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23:31.18KirochiJob's done ! :-)
23:32.16KirochiWork complete ! >:-)
23:32.46Kirkburn|VistaYou recruited peons to create a spanish wiki?
23:32.58KirochiYup
23:33.28KirochiThey're working for one loaf of bread a day in my basement
23:33.46ckknightpfft
23:33.52ckknightthey don't deserve that much
23:34.38KirochiBad pay means bad workers
23:34.47KirochiStalin couldn't just understand that :)
23:36.07ckknightno, lack of unemployment leads to complacency.
23:36.22ckknightthat's the real issue with a socialistic structure that guarantees jobs for everyone
23:37.18KirochiI just can't wait to see unemployed Orcs roaming the suburbs and forming gangs XD
23:37.49ckknighttime for a state-supported sterilization program, hrm?
23:38.26Kirochia thug-only faction that you could only get reputation with by killing human militia
23:38.45KirochiOrc sterilization ? They've tried to do it once
23:38.58KirochiIn the Orcish detention camps
23:40.00KirochiOh well, see, you raise one o'them jerks and they're all like 'ZOMG I wanna found a new Horde, with shamans and ass-kicking warriors, we're brutal but we're kind'
23:40.16Endkind of brutal?
23:41.34Kirochi(is that a question ? I'm french and I don't catch everything)
23:43.10Irielit's a play on words, specifically the word kind which means both generous/nice as well as partially
23:43.27Irielas in "that was kind of painful" "she was kind of happy"
23:43.58Kirochiaaaaw
23:44.02KirochiI kinda understand
23:44.09Kirochiyes
23:44.13Endhehe
23:44.15Kirochithey're kind of brutal
23:44.48Kirochi*a quarter to 2 am and Kirochi's slowly falling into unwilling slumber*
23:48.58Mr_Rabies2"LFM Arabajab the Summoner"
23:49.18Kirochi(what's LFM ?)
23:49.26Mr_Rabies2looking for more
23:49.27zenzelezzlooking for more
23:49.54Kirochiok
23:50.17KirochiI knew Araj, but WTH is arabajab ?
23:50.23Mr_Rabies2a horrible misspelling
23:50.38zenzelezzmaybe a relative who's filling in?
23:50.50Mr_Rabies2someone says that in LookingForGroup chat and it explodes
23:51.18Kirochi:P
23:53.03KirochiOw, these dirty peons are not working as fast as I want
23:53.25Kirochi*cut one peon's head off with a teaspoon*
23:54.16Mr_Rabies2warpten greedisgood 999999 imo
23:54.57Kirochidoes anyone else wanna negotiate ?
23:55.17KirochiOuchies, War 3 cheats !
23:55.27KirochiI had almost f'gotten them
23:55.47KirochiKorben Dallas: Anybody else want to negotiate?
23:56.13kergothyay fifth element
23:56.52Kirochigreatest film ever, just behind star wars, lotr, and a shitload of unknown movies
23:57.47Mr_Rabies2i bet the warcraft movie will top all of them
23:57.56Mr_Rabies2^sarcasm
23:58.29KirochiUwe Boll pwnz you all
23:58.53Mr_Rabies2ughhh he better not get anywhere near warcraft

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