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| 00:07.26 | Kirkburn | Who's signed Eyonix's get well soon petition? |
| 00:08.36 | Kaso | Eyonix is ill? |
| 00:08.36 | Kirkburn | If you want to know why he needs one: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8435711&s=blizzard&tmp=1#blizzard |
| 00:09.21 | Kirkburn | Get Well Soon thread (with 'card' link) ... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=8438154 |
| 00:09.52 | Iriel | Hm, I guess IVF is unnecessary now |
| 00:09.57 | Kaso | Owch |
| 00:10.01 | Kaso | poor guy |
| 00:11.06 | Kirkburn | Iriel, I thought for a second you were suggesting Eyonix might have needed IVF treatement :/ |
| 00:11.42 | Kirkburn | Sign the card, sign the card! =) |
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| 00:14.51 | Kirkburn | zomg, Rislyn is back :) |
| 00:15.32 | Iriel | Heh, no I just read slouken's 1.11 updates |
| 00:16.55 | Kirkburn | All that work you did, no longer needed ... can't decide smiley ... uh ... :) :( :) :( :) :( |
| 00:18.07 | zespri | Iriel, so what is the update? |
| 00:20.33 | Kirkburn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=382611&tmp=1#post382611 |
| 00:20.37 | Iriel | zespri: In 1.11 virtual frame definitions are always accessible, and CreateFrame gets a new arg |
| 00:22.05 | Iriel | Well, the work was still educational, so it's not entirely a loss 8-) |
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| 00:34.51 | ckknight | cool |
| 00:34.53 | ckknight | inheritance. |
| 00:36.36 | AnduinLothar | it still has it's use |
| 00:36.48 | AnduinLothar | what I'm doing with Loc for example |
| 00:37.05 | AnduinLothar | using your script to convert xml to virtual frmaes |
| 00:38.49 | ckknight | it's be reasonably neat if we could make virtual frames in lua |
| 00:39.06 | Iriel | Damn it, there's a problem with their auth swapover |
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| 00:40.51 | Iriel | Oh, never mind, maybe they changed the session timeout on the forum |
| 00:41.57 | Legorol | Iriel, couldn't your IVF system be modified to give what ckknight wants? |
| 00:42.06 | AnduinLothar | already does |
| 00:42.08 | Legorol | afaik there is still no way to dynamically generate a template |
| 00:42.20 | Legorol | so it still has usefulness :) |
| 00:42.23 | Legorol | AnduinLothar: cool |
| 00:42.25 | AnduinLothar | sure, just gen the format IVF uses |
| 00:49.53 | Iriel | Legorol : Yes |
| 00:50.29 | Iriel | But it may just be easier to write lua code to make the frames |
| 00:50.57 | Iriel | IVH has to deal with a lot of sequencing issues because of the XML format that aren't necessarily a problem if you generate your frames explicitly |
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| 00:55.56 | qw` | Anyone tried to create a shared hunter minimap? |
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| 01:01.09 | kaiden | Hey guys, can I get an opinion on my new unit frames addon i'm writing, i strayed from using DUF due to wanting something extremely customized that DUF currently can't do or I dont know how to do it with DUF --> http://easilyaddicted.com/screenshots/SSNepDisplay01.jpg is a picture of them it's based off the original dLx_HUD then the rewrite of it by shag, then i rewrote it hehe |
| 01:01.47 | qw` | I like it! |
| 01:02.47 | qw` | I'm a big fan of a minimalistic UI and that is spot on |
| 01:02.55 | kaiden | it's all custom i'm adding a scripting system for it so you can change the locations / backgrops / textures |
| 01:02.59 | kaiden | text outputs everything |
| 01:03.16 | kaiden | i personally am going to stick with this halflife-esque display because of that reason qw` ;) |
| 01:03.37 | qw` | could I try it out? |
| 01:04.21 | kaiden | sure i guess, but there might be bugs with the target top left info field which shows mob level / name depending on how long the mobs name is |
| 01:04.47 | kaiden | and atm i haven't added mouse movement to it so you have to edit the NDPlayerFrame's SetPoint to where you want it on screen |
| 01:04.58 | kaiden | til i add a command, if you would rather wait i'm gonna add those soon |
| 01:05.05 | kaiden | if i can get torn away from playing my rogue/priest :) |
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| 01:05.27 | Iriel | kaiden : When you say 'adding a scripting system' are you doing it as a set of lua functions that take care of grunt work? |
| 01:05.31 | zespri | wow, I know it's old but I just read this http://bitbasher.net/wow/g15wow.jpg in 1.11 |
| 01:05.34 | Iriel | kaiden : Or are you building something entirely different? |
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| 01:06.29 | qw` | kaiden - if you don't mind I don't :P |
| 01:06.30 | kaiden | Iriel, just a lua system that parses a variable for certain things so i can do like $lvl - $nm $cl |
| 01:06.31 | kaiden | etc |
| 01:06.32 | kaiden | :) |
| 01:07.27 | Iriel | cool |
| 01:08.16 | kaiden | i just wanted a bit more power over my unit frames than discordunitframes currently allows |
| 01:08.37 | wereHamster | kaiden, these unitframes are not done using DUF |
| 01:08.47 | kaiden | nope |
| 01:08.58 | kaiden | using no xml either, pure blizz calls |
| 01:09.00 | norgs|away | so - is anyone doing anything with the raid-marks thing (like auto Skulling the MT's target) |
| 01:09.06 | kaiden | *pets createframe / createtexture / createfont :) |
| 01:10.27 | wereHamster | kaiden, I misread.. I thought you asked about this addon.. you must be willgk ;) |
| 01:10.34 | kaiden | qw`, ok here it is http://easilyaddicted.com/stuff/NeptuneDisplay.zip |
| 01:10.37 | Thrae | kaiden: Take a look at WatchDog. |
| 01:10.40 | kaiden | wereHamster, aye |
| 01:11.01 | wereHamster | kaiden, and yes, you can release it :) |
| 01:11.06 | kaiden | thanks man :) |
| 01:11.55 | Iriel | You missed createfontstring 8-) |
| 01:12.04 | Iriel | and your shift key |
| 01:12.19 | qw` | kaiden - thanks man |
| 01:12.22 | kaiden | aye, i'm on a mac these days and i hate these little tiny keyboards |
| 01:12.50 | AnduinLothar | MACS DONT HAVE TINY KEYBOARDS... LAPTOPS HAVE TINY KEYBOARDS |
| 01:12.54 | AnduinLothar | oops caps |
| 01:12.56 | AnduinLothar | sry |
| 01:13.00 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 01:13.13 | Cairenn | well, you are certainly emphatic, aren't you AnduinLothar? |
| 01:13.26 | Thrae | Anduin must be using a laptop, he hit the Caps-Lock by mistake ;) |
| 01:13.30 | AnduinLothar | sry.. i love my apple keyboard |
| 01:13.42 | AnduinLothar | nah, my pinky is stray |
| 01:13.49 | Kirkburn | AnduinLothar must be on a mac, the keyboard's so tiny, he missed the shift button |
| 01:13.56 | Cairenn | oh noes! stray pinkies! |
| 01:14.08 | kaiden | i love my apple keyboard i'm just still getting used to it |
| 01:14.10 | AnduinLothar | actually i'm raiding so i'm not really pying attention |
| 01:14.19 | AnduinLothar | but you triggered the mac keyword filter |
| 01:14.22 | kaiden | bought myself a iMac intel dual core 2.1ghz with 2gb of ram 20.1" model |
| 01:14.24 | qw` | I don't like those iMacLappinToshs |
| 01:14.31 | Thrae | Just goes to show you Mac users have good manners -- they always try to keep their pinky up when typing. |
| 01:14.33 | Cairenn | have to be careful, they breed like rabbits, then the next thing you know, you're overrun with stray pinkies that stray all over the place ... |
| 01:14.41 | AnduinLothar | damn kaiden, jealous |
| 01:14.50 | Kirkburn | They sound like Tribbles |
| 01:15.04 | Cairenn | tribbles rule! |
| 01:15.05 | kaiden | i'm loving it so much :) got a pair of harman/kardon soundsticks 2 as well they kick butt |
| 01:15.11 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 01:15.40 | AnduinLothar | the duel core 2ghz own my computer hard in the as |
| 01:15.57 | Kirkburn | Lovely image |
| 01:16.00 | AnduinLothar | what kinda fps you getting in wow |
| 01:16.08 | Cairenn | at least Tribbles are better than Gremlins! |
| 01:16.11 | Thrae | Dual Core, Mac or PC, owns most people's computers because most people don't have Dual Cores yet ;) |
| 01:16.18 | AnduinLothar | i had a 1.8 at work and got like >60 |
| 01:16.48 | Thrae | By the way "Duel Core"? That reminds me of the early Dual Core designs -- the processors fight over resources! |
| 01:16.53 | Kirkburn | Yes, that raid of your sure must be loving your attention Anduin :P |
| 01:16.57 | Cairenn | actually, so do I Kirkburn |
| 01:17.16 | AnduinLothar | it's ubrs... it's a good think i'm not healing |
| 01:17.23 | Kirkburn | Well at least we know how to surreptiously get Anduin's attention |
| 01:17.43 | AnduinLothar | i fall asleep healing most of the time |
| 01:17.50 | Thrae | AnduinLothar uses NeedyList and has a key bound to "First Need" ;) |
| 01:17.52 | Kirkburn | So, er I was walking down the street and I saw a man in a green mac. |
| 01:17.53 | AnduinLothar | cept i get my ZHC tomarrow! |
| 01:18.08 | AnduinLothar | nah, CastOptions owns all healing mods |
| 01:18.29 | AnduinLothar | i dont even have to make a macro |
| 01:18.41 | AnduinLothar | it just autoselects my target for me when i cast |
| 01:18.42 | kaiden | AnduinLothar: in wow i run at full settings to 100% and 6x multi sampling as well as colloquy in the background as well as terminal, itunes playing music and transmit open for ftp and i run at 79-100 FPS |
| 01:18.44 | Kirkburn | Have you seen Paladin Assistant? |
| 01:19.16 | AnduinLothar | ya, it's insane |
| 01:19.28 | AnduinLothar | the intelmacs get such fabulous fps in wow |
| 01:19.44 | AnduinLothar | it's so rediculous |
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| 01:19.57 | AnduinLothar | that the all-in-ones own gaming machines.. |
| 01:20.33 | Kirkburn | It's rIdiculous :) |
| 01:20.38 | kaiden | yeah i have bootcamp running windows for playing FFXI with my brothers but rarely use it, i hear games run better in bootcamp on the mac hardware than on equivalent pc hardware running pure windows |
| 01:20.44 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: NeedyList can do all of what CastOptions can do, except it gives you the option to click on the "needs" that need fufilled instead of targetting automatically. |
| 01:20.52 | Thrae | Makes you feel less like you're cheating ;) |
| 01:21.05 | Kirkburn | Paladin Assistant can make you a cup of coffee |
| 01:21.06 | AnduinLothar | can do that with CO |
| 01:21.14 | AnduinLothar | can even toggle it |
| 01:21.19 | kaiden | or just get Healer and cheat all the way |
| 01:21.20 | kaiden | :P |
| 01:21.31 | zespri | >>There is a new option under Interface options - "Show Target of Target" |
| 01:21.38 | zespri | I wonder how it will look like |
| 01:21.44 | zespri | another target frame? |
| 01:21.47 | AnduinLothar | it's under the portrait |
| 01:21.49 | Kirkburn | Pet frame |
| 01:21.51 | AnduinLothar | small |
| 01:22.00 | zespri | ok cool |
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| 01:22.34 | Kirkburn | Good night to you all! |
| 01:22.38 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 01:22.56 | Kirkburn | Have a Merry Wednesday Eve |
| 01:23.07 | Kirkburn | May the Light be with you |
| 01:23.13 | AnduinLothar | I am looking for something to replace buffbot tho, something with a gui |
| 01:23.23 | AnduinLothar | just for buffing blessings |
| 01:23.26 | Thrae | Personally, I use a mod called CorkFu which just does buffs. |
| 01:23.28 | qw` | kaiden - http://home.no.net/mflister/wow/neptune.jpg |
| 01:23.41 | Thrae | I don't need an automatic healing mod. |
| 01:23.56 | Thrae | Well, it's not that I don't need it, I don't -want- it ;) |
| 01:24.08 | Thrae | I do use AceHeal, which tries to conserve mana. |
| 01:24.10 | kaiden | qw`: cool ;) sorry about the combo points, i built it for my rogue so that's hard coded in for now |
| 01:24.14 | kaiden | i just started making this last night hehe |
| 01:24.40 | kaiden | off of wereHamster's ColdFusionDisplay code |
| 01:25.05 | qw` | how are you going to incorporate playerstate stuff, like the 'zzz' icon, pvp flagged etc |
| 01:25.18 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: CorkFu just does buffs, very tight code, and can have FuBarPlugin embedded if you don't use FuBar. |
| 01:25.45 | kaiden | qw`: all of that stuff's held by simple variables in the system or api calls, so we'll see for now |
| 01:25.50 | kaiden | most of it i'll probably do with coloring |
| 01:25.57 | kaiden | so that it doesn't take away from the "light" feel of it |
| 01:26.04 | kaiden | btw, you already found a bug for me, thanks :) |
| 01:26.13 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php/topic,1459.0.html |
| 01:26.15 | qw` | I found another one too, I think. Hold on a sec. |
| 01:26.27 | AnduinLothar | not an ace fan |
| 01:26.34 | qw` | No I didn't :P I'll let you know |
| 01:26.56 | kaiden | well for now let me finish writing the SavedVariables system so i can add a script to the player/target frame for dragging / dropping movement |
| 01:27.08 | Thrae | What, worried Ace will go out of development? |
| 01:27.55 | qw` | kaiden - miniscule, but I don't target myself by clicking on my own status, but you probably got that in the pipeline |
| 01:28.00 | zespri | >>The LookingForGroup channel is now worldwide. Players in Eastern Plaguelands can look for groups in Ironforge or Stormwind. |
| 01:28.03 | AnduinLothar | one could hope, but actually it's more that I dont like looking at code that uses ace, nor the way ace is coded, nor the orig creator.. |
| 01:28.08 | zespri | How this change is good I wonder? |
| 01:28.28 | kaiden | qw`: among other things, i'm trying to figure out how to hook into the right click menu of the default frame so i can show it when you right click ont he player / target frames |
| 01:28.32 | kaiden | so that i dont have to write my own |
| 01:28.52 | kaiden | for now you have to /script LeaveParty(); |
| 01:29.27 | qw` | :P I'll just put Nurfed hidden in a corner somewhere incase of emergencies |
| 01:29.32 | zespri | Anduin, what's wrong with buffbot? |
| 01:29.40 | zespri | And do you realyy need GUI for this? |
| 01:29.50 | qw` | kaiden - ooh, don't forget to add the "Hide when in raid" option somewhere please |
| 01:29.51 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: The views and opinions expressed by Rowne and Turan don't necessarily represent the entire Ace community. Besides, they aren't even coding anymore. |
| 01:30.03 | AnduinLothar | no, but they left their mark |
| 01:30.12 | kaiden | qw`: , for now it leaves your default party frames up and only hides your player/target |
| 01:30.18 | kaiden | and you would want those up still in a raid, wouldn't you? |
| 01:30.23 | Gryphen | left their mark on me too :) |
| 01:30.28 | AnduinLothar | i'm tired of buffbot not guessing what i want or even remembering |
| 01:31.06 | AnduinLothar | i want some sort of way to remember different blessing configs by class so i can just 1 or 2 click config |
| 01:31.13 | qw` | kaiden - I ctrl+z when raiding, hardcore :P |
| 01:31.18 | qw` | err, alt+z |
| 01:31.19 | kaiden | lol |
| 01:31.31 | kaiden | just get a second monitor and run your ui on it |
| 01:31.38 | Thrae | AnduinLothar: Well if you really can't ever use any single Ace mod, then disable CastOptions and use NeedyList. NeedyList does healing, buff needs, and decurse/poison/disease/magic needs. |
| 01:31.43 | kaiden | i have a DVIout to a second 20" lcd on my mac |
| 01:31.46 | zenzelezz | kaiden: that would be so sweet... |
| 01:32.04 | kaiden | granted i dont know how to set it up in the mac so i just use it in windows through bootcamp |
| 01:32.54 | qw` | on a mac? I heard you could drag and drop everything on that OS |
| 01:33.05 | qw` | s/on/in |
| 01:33.11 | Thrae | Although I have been toying with the idea of making an Ace version of Khaos/Cosmos ;) |
| 01:33.11 | AnduinLothar | it takes liek 2 seconds |
| 01:33.19 | AnduinLothar | you go to the display control panel |
| 01:33.25 | AnduinLothar | and click the checkbox |
| 01:35.02 | AnduinLothar | i'll look at needy list... see if i like it's gui |
| 01:35.25 | qw` | I wish someone could revamp the whole blizz UI to something based off of 1px borders and a light-blue theme |
| 01:35.59 | kaiden | Hey guys, can SetScript be called multiple times on the same frame to allow for OnLoad and OnEvent scripts? |
| 01:36.06 | kaiden | and onmousedown / onmouseup |
| 01:38.35 | Iriel | You can call as many SetScripts as you want, with different scripts |
| 01:38.43 | Iriel | You can only have one script of any kind at any time |
| 01:38.48 | kaiden | perfect ;) i hated xml anyway |
| 01:39.13 | Iriel | OnLoad is the only one that's completely useless to you |
| 01:39.19 | kaiden | so glad to not have to use it i know most people will say it's harder to do it dynamically but imo it's easier might take a bit more text :) |
| 01:39.23 | kaiden | Iriel, why's that? |
| 01:39.35 | Iriel | Because it's already loaded when you get its pointer back |
| 01:39.45 | Iriel | so OnLoad is never invoked for dynamic frames |
| 01:39.50 | kaiden | oh :( anyway to get around that? |
| 01:39.53 | Iriel | you may as well just call the functoin |
| 01:39.55 | kaiden | as i need to setup some variables |
| 01:40.05 | kaiden | ok so just create a function at the top of the script and call it |
| 01:40.23 | Iriel | initializeKaidensFrame(this) -- stuff here -- end |
| 01:40.33 | Iriel | then call the function when you get your frame back |
| 01:40.45 | Iriel | or when you're done building it and its children (if you want consistency with the XML) |
| 01:41.05 | Miravlix | Hmm, really strange, in IE pictures that say Google is distroted. |
| 01:41.17 | kaiden | i'll just load a different .lua from the .toc before the others |
| 01:41.24 | kaiden | and have it do all the setups and make the slash commands |
| 01:41.25 | Miravlix | No other pictures seems to have this feature. |
| 01:41.47 | Miravlix | Hmm, actually the IE icon is color distorted too. |
| 01:43.11 | Thrae | TS.mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm = "Waka waka waka waka waka..." |
| 01:43.24 | Thrae | Defuscating this may be tricky. |
| 01:45.34 | kaiden | Iriel, what about the event VARIABLES_LOADED that should be fine to watch for within the dynamic frame |
| 01:46.05 | Iriel | Yes, but you should likely use ADDON_LOADED instead |
| 01:46.19 | Iriel | there are few good reasons to wait for VARIABLES_LOADED (Though perhaps you have one) |
| 01:46.44 | kaiden | atm nothing serious, i mean i have everything watching PLAYER_ENTERS_WORLD to make sure nothing gets fired too soon |
| 01:47.37 | kaiden | thanks for your help iriel |
| 01:49.25 | groll | Cairenn are thy awake? :D |
| 01:49.31 | Cairenn | yup, I'm here |
| 01:49.43 | groll | wee hehe guess what? :P |
| 01:49.52 | Cairenn | need me to post something for you? |
| 01:49.58 | groll | yes please :D |
| 01:50.06 | Cairenn | PM it |
| 01:50.16 | Cairenn | shammy forum again? |
| 01:50.18 | groll | not sure you want though but it's not really a blizzard bashing just a lil semi angry but nicely written :P |
| 01:50.36 | Cairenn | hrm |
| 01:50.52 | groll | you can read it first and if you feel you dont ´want to that is fully ok :) |
| 01:50.58 | Cairenn | well, let me see it, I'll decide how brave I'm feeling, okay? |
| 01:51.15 | groll | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman-en&t=93516&p=1&tmp=1#post93516 |
| 01:51.36 | groll | there u go :D and if u decide to post it just make the topic the same and just write it's me posting on eu |
| 01:56.12 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-shaman&ThreadID=577875 |
| 01:58.29 | qw` | The mages got very neglected by Blizzard for a loooong time my friend, it's about time they get a workover |
| 01:58.32 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams |
| 01:59.28 | clad|sleep | night Cairenn |
| 02:00.08 | clad|sleep | Cairenn: Tom comes home this weekend =) |
| 02:00.21 | Cairenn | bet you're looking forward to that :) |
| 02:00.26 | clad|sleep | *nod* |
| 02:00.40 | clad|sleep | <3 |
| 02:01.46 | Miravlix | Come on, they didn't neglect the Mage, they planned for updateing it, this mentality of everything haveing to be done yesterday, is totally unrealistic, things take time. |
| 02:02.55 | Codayus | I understand the shaman PoV. |
| 02:03.23 | kaiden | well that was dang fun :) finally got a fake OnLoad system with SavedVariables support working in a dynamic frame environment |
| 02:04.33 | Miravlix | Fake onload? |
| 02:06.26 | Miravlix | if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1=="myaddon" then do this on load end |
| 02:06.39 | kaiden | hence what i was talking about |
| 02:06.42 | kaiden | not asking how already done it hehe |
| 02:07.35 | Miravlix | Just code directly in the addon is onload too |
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| 02:20.31 | kaiden | Hey, how can i get the current x/y position of a frame? GetX / GetY? |
| 02:21.00 | clad|sleep | GetLeft() GetTop() will give you the topleft corner |
| 02:21.08 | clad|sleep | GetCenter() will give you the center of the frame x, y |
| 02:21.10 | Cairenn | hah! caught you! |
| 02:21.21 | Cairenn | clad|sleep sleeps as well as I do! |
| 02:21.26 | Kaelten | lol |
| 02:21.38 | clad|sleep | *gasp* |
| 02:21.47 | clad|sleep | talking to Tom, watching Top Chef and hoping to fall asleep at some point. |
| 02:22.02 | clad|sleep | trying to figure out what I can move around in my life to make more time for coding and.. other endeavors. |
| 02:35.02 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar or Gryphen or someone, might want to look to your channel |
| 02:35.20 | clad|sleep | i should idle in the cosmos channel.. good people |
| 02:35.23 | clad|sleep | but its another server =( |
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| 02:39.40 | Mr_Rabies2 | hoho that was fun |
| 02:39.55 | Mr_Rabies2 | fire pack and geddon at the same time |
| 02:40.28 | kaiden | Can i get a bit of help on a function http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TmNjhm52.html |
| 02:40.34 | kaiden | it's for moving a dynamic frame with OnMouseDown |
| 02:40.51 | Legorol | you need to call EnableMouse(1) or some such on the frame |
| 02:40.56 | Legorol | otherwise it won't receive that event |
| 02:41.20 | kaiden | i thought SetMovable(true) would handle all that ok i'll see if it's on wowwiki |
| 02:41.30 | Legorol | are you setting movable=true in the XML? |
| 02:41.41 | kaiden | not using xml :) |
| 02:41.48 | Legorol | ah dynamic sorry my bad |
| 02:41.56 | Legorol | no i don't think that's enough for it to receive mouse events |
| 02:42.14 | Legorol | SetMovable(true) just allows you to call StartMoving and StopMovingOrSizing |
| 02:42.57 | clad|sleep | kaiden: Have you frame:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonDown")?\ |
| 02:43.05 | clad|sleep | and more importantly, is it a button or a frame? |
| 02:43.28 | kaiden | it's a frame and nope haven't registered it for clicks |
| 02:43.38 | kaiden | i'll do that now ;) just now learning all this obviously hehe |
| 02:44.36 | clad|sleep | Yeah, frames can't receive clicks (unless i'm mistaken) |
| 02:44.55 | clad|sleep | but luckily a button is a derivative of Frame.. so it should just be a matter of changing your declaration |
| 02:45.04 | Legorol | registering for clicks is not the same as EnableMouse(true |
| 02:45.15 | Legorol | registering for clicks causes OnClick events |
| 02:45.27 | Legorol | calling EnableMouse(true) allows for OnMouseDown etc. |
| 02:45.35 | Legorol | if i remember correctly, that is |
| 02:46.05 | kaiden | whoot enablemouse works great, thanks legorol |
| 02:46.07 | Legorol | the point being that "clicks" are a higher level concept than mouse events, which are more atomic (mouse button down, mouse button up -> click) |
| 02:47.35 | clad|sleep | Oh, i missed the "click to move it" part. |
| 02:47.41 | clad|sleep | i really am sleeping apparently =) |
| 02:52.17 | kaiden | darn, clad, that GetLeft GetTop gives actual x/y apparent to the whole screen, can i get anything that's specific to the frame it's hooked to? compared to whether it's BOTTOMLEFT/BOTTOMLEFT etc? |
| 02:52.38 | kaiden | i need something like -108 and 70 output rather than 532.234828348234 and 323.3284523849 |
| 02:53.01 | clad|sleep | What do you want to give, the coordinates of the frame? |
| 02:53.44 | kaiden | looks like GetPoint will do that |
| 02:53.47 | Legorol | go to Iriel's wiki page about coordinate systems, forget the link.. |
| 02:53.59 | kaiden | yeah i'm trying to save where it is on screen to a savedvariable so i can recall it later |
| 02:54.14 | clad|sleep | best bet in that case it to use the position relative to the UIParent |
| 02:54.23 | clad|sleep | which will be those nasty numbers you're looking for. |
| 02:54.30 | kaiden | ok |
| 02:54.43 | Legorol | ah, here we go: |
| 02:54.44 | Legorol | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Coordinates |
| 02:55.34 | clad|sleep | http://pastebin.ca/58543 |
| 02:55.39 | clad|sleep | there's the code i use to save/restore |
| 02:56.05 | clad|sleep | just replace the local f = self.master, and local f = PerfectRaid with your frame name, i.e. local f = MyFrameName |
| 02:56.30 | kaiden | i'm having major issues with my saved variables, it's not wanting to set them for some reason, but i know they exist because it's calling them |
| 02:59.19 | kaiden | why would something be telling me a table index is nil if i can call that table and it will work fine? |
| 03:00.41 | Legorol | you are trying to do something like tablename[index]+2 say, and although tablename exists, index is nil |
| 03:00.51 | Legorol | that's when you get that error message |
| 03:01.58 | kaiden | ok let ask this , if it's the same just slap me.. why is it i have a function that is called NDMove that says that the table index is nil and can't do it and it's on the line that's NDD[PlayerFrameX] yet when i do /script NDD[PlayerFrameX] = "whatever"; it works fine? |
| 03:03.34 | Legorol | put a debug print output before the line on which you have NDD[PlayerFrameX], and see if PlayerFrameX is nil or not at that point |
| 03:03.52 | kaiden | doesn't matter if it's nil |
| 03:04.00 | kaiden | NDD is linked to 3 tables |
| 03:04.09 | Legorol | i don't get you |
| 03:04.16 | Legorol | it does matter if it's nil or not |
| 03:04.17 | kaiden | i nest my saved variables to look like NDSV as the main table, nested below it is PlayerRealm in this case Hyjal |
| 03:04.26 | Legorol | Lua doesn't allow you to use nil as a table index |
| 03:04.33 | kaiden | nested below that is player name |
| 03:04.40 | kaiden | and nested below that are simple v ariable values |
| 03:04.45 | Legorol | ok |
| 03:05.13 | kaiden | so what that's telling me is NDD doesn't exist which is linked to NDSV[Hyjal][Fostot] in this case, yet i see those in the saved variables |
| 03:05.38 | Legorol | ok, what is the exact error message? |
| 03:05.56 | Legorol | because if it's saying "table index is nil", then it is *not* telling you that NDD doesn't exist |
| 03:06.09 | Legorol | i am assuming you did something like NDD = NDSV[Hyjal][Fostot] |
| 03:06.10 | kaiden | ok maybe it doesn't exist .. it's saying it doesn't exist when i try to /script set it |
| 03:06.17 | Legorol | that will make NDD perfectly valid and exist |
| 03:06.21 | kaiden | so that means my NDInit isn't getting called on variables loaded like it's supposed to |
| 03:06.26 | Legorol | the problem is with the *index*, the stuff in the square brackets |
| 03:06.30 | Legorol | if that is nil, you get error message |
| 03:06.49 | kaiden | Legorol, yes i did, but it seems that my init function which sets all that data up isn't getting run |
| 03:06.50 | Legorol | NDD[PlayerFrameX] will throw an error if PlayerFrameX is nil |
| 03:06.55 | Legorol | ok |
| 03:08.23 | kaiden | ok question, since i'm using dynamic frames, if a event for variables_loaded isn't actually working, are there any other ways i can call it |
| 03:13.11 | Legorol | it should work, provided you created your frame before the vars_loaded event |
| 03:14.05 | Legorol | sorry but i really have to go now ;-) |
| 03:14.16 | Cairenn | later lego |
| 03:14.53 | clad|sleep | Goodnight Legorol |
| 03:21.37 | kaiden | grrr :( |
| 03:21.52 | kaiden | all this time it was broken because i forgot to put ""'s around my sv name |
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| 03:23.41 | kremonte | question: can you add a var in a function definition? (ex function a(a=1, b=2, c="foo");) ? |
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| 03:59.12 | Miravlix | Oookay, it's the second time tonight I've tried to login. |
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| 03:59.32 | Miravlix | Considering it's maintenance day that pretty pointless |
| 04:01.25 | Miravlix | Anyone tried CreateFrame("GameTooltip") on test? |
| 04:02.35 | kremonte | that sounds like it can make the game kasplode |
| 04:04.09 | Miravlix | Why can macs choose what format to save files in? |
| 04:04.16 | Miravlix | screenshots that is |
| 04:04.25 | kremonte | boo |
| 04:04.26 | kremonte | thats lame |
| 04:04.34 | kaiden | because the filetypes are built into the base os |
| 04:04.42 | kremonte | ...:( |
| 04:04.47 | kremonte | can't wow just include libjpeg? |
| 04:04.48 | kaiden | whereas in windows you have to have libraries that are written by other people to view png's / jpegs / etc |
| 04:04.52 | kremonte | well |
| 04:04.55 | kaiden | no, not without paying for it |
| 04:04.56 | kremonte | cant distribute it |
| 04:04.56 | kremonte | >< |
| 04:04.59 | kremonte | boo! |
| 04:05.07 | kaiden | or converting the gpl'd one or writing special code for it |
| 04:05.22 | kremonte | can you do for i=100,1 do ? |
| 04:05.37 | kremonte | oh |
| 04:05.41 | kremonte | i=100,1,-1 :D |
| 04:06.20 | Iriel | Miravlix : Someone did, but the new line adding method makes it break |
| 04:06.50 | kaiden | whoot iriel, i fixed all the bugs i've had so far in that ui and now you can move the unitframe anywhere on the screen and it saves the settings and reloads them |
| 04:06.52 | Miravlix | New 1.11 patch |
| 04:07.01 | kaiden | i had to use GetPoint .. GetLeft / GetTop weren't so great for what i was doing |
| 04:07.02 | Miravlix | and now Kalented breaks on test. |
| 04:07.07 | Iriel | kaiden : Yay 8-) |
| 04:07.42 | Iriel | Miravlix : Ooh, does it have the new virtual frame stuff? I'm guessing NOT |
| 04:07.47 | kaiden | i fought with the saved variables for almost 2 1/2 hours til i noticed i was missing 4x "'s around 2 sets of variable declarations that was breaking it hehe |
| 04:11.18 | kremonte | [Cu]NeT: spell links on curse are broked |
| 04:13.54 | Kaelten|sleep | night guys |
| 04:16.31 | Miravlix | Hmm, Argent Down level 10 quest in Orgimmar |
| 04:16.34 | Miravlix | Thats new. |
| 04:32.52 | Miravlix | Hmm, they changed how it deals with duped frame names |
| 04:38.41 | Iriel | Yes indeed |
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| 05:12.41 | [Cu]NeT | kremont thank you, the item db isn t up yet :p |
| 05:17.25 | kremonte | is there any way to define a variable in a function declaration? |
| 05:17.35 | kremonte | like function foo(a, b=1, c='bar') |
| 05:19.14 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 05:19.27 | AnduinLothar | that's python |
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| 05:54.30 | Cairenn | night all |
| 06:14.52 | kaiden | hey is there a specific event that fires when you gain xp? |
| 06:14.56 | kaiden | i've looked through the events list and didn't see anything along the lines |
| 06:15.53 | kaiden | n/m PLAYER_XP_UPDATE, i was looking through UNIT |
| 06:15.54 | kaiden | ;) |
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| 08:40.31 | Industrial | morning |
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| 09:36.35 | Miravlix | It's strange how ReloadUI() happends ultra instantly |
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| 09:37.11 | Miravlix | But Logout you can call all kinds of stuff where you have to wait for events to get the return value fine. |
| 09:37.54 | Miravlix | ( Logout in rest zones... ) |
| 09:39.11 | Miravlix | Hmm, now thats a new bug, Titan Panels top panel has no graphics |
| 09:39.24 | Miravlix | Bottom panel is fine. |
| 09:39.53 | Industrial | fubar? :P |
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| 10:13.29 | Miravlix | Strange |
| 10:14.22 | Miravlix | Doing a RequestTimePlayed() from PeW, it takes WoW 7 seconds before it returns with the TIME_PLAYED_MSG event and it doesn't print to chat. |
| 10:15.14 | Miravlix | Now doing /played takes 0.3 seconds and prints to chat. |
| 10:15.57 | Miravlix | Now if I remove my RequestTimePlayed hook, it does two events and prints twice to chat. |
| 10:20.33 | Miravlix | Why does my hook make RTP not print to chat? |
| 10:22.00 | Miravlix | and why only sometimes, since both /played and /script RequestTimePlayed() both use my hook too |
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| 10:43.52 | Elessdy | Billy Joel - We Didn't Start The Fire |
| 10:44.18 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 10:44.20 | Wobin_ | good son |
| 10:44.20 | Wobin_ | g |
| 10:44.42 | Elessdy | we didn't start the fire; it was always burnin' since the world's been turnin' |
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| 10:53.49 | Corrodias | Bon Jovi is my hero. Bon Jovi - Living On A Prayer |
| 11:00.06 | kaso| | Does anyone more knowledgeable about Macs than me know why OSX allows WoW to compress jpgs, is there some sort of built in compressor? |
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| 11:04.51 | Maldivia | persistent virtual frames... woot :9 |
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| 11:49.27 | s|loup | hi |
| 11:51.35 | s|loup | what does setAllPoints do ? <Frame setAllPoints="true"> |
| 11:52.22 | Maldivia | anchors the frame to all corners of the parent frame |
| 11:53.24 | s|loup | ah ok so it got the same size as the parent frame? |
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| 11:53.46 | Maldivia | yes |
| 11:53.56 | s|loup | ok thanks |
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| 13:03.17 | End | moo |
| 13:04.05 | Maldivia | miau |
| 13:18.56 | Industrial | miau miau |
| 13:18.59 | Industrial | LASER KITTEN |
| 13:19.01 | Industrial | PEWPEWPEW |
| 13:29.45 | kremonte | anyone around speak german? :Q |
| 13:30.34 | s|loup | here |
| 13:30.50 | kremonte | can you translate somethin for meh? |
| 13:30.57 | Kalroth | s|loup sind ein lederhosen! |
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| 13:31.23 | kremonte | well not specifically translate. i need some phrase in german that relates to tennis that a player would say during a game |
| 13:31.45 | s|loup | hm tennis |
| 13:32.22 | s|loup | give me some examples pls |
| 13:32.39 | kremonte | "boo this racket sucks, i want a refund" |
| 13:32.41 | kremonte | :E |
| 13:33.35 | s|loup | hm |
| 13:34.34 | s|loup | if i translate it one to one : Der Schläger ist scheisse, ich brauch den Ersatzschläger |
| 13:35.08 | kremonte | mmm thanks |
| 13:37.59 | s|loup | the problem is i didnt know if there is a additional statement in your sentence ;) |
| 13:38.07 | kremonte | huh? ._. |
| 13:38.20 | kremonte | no need for it to be exact, it just has to resemble something in german. it's for french class, after all |
| 13:38.22 | kremonte | :3 |
| 13:38.32 | s|loup | ah ok |
| 13:38.43 | s|loup | then its ok ^^ |
| 13:41.49 | End | hmm, X through a wireless connection doesn't work so well |
| 13:42.06 | End | well, sometimes doesn't work very well :P |
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| 13:47.17 | zenzelezz | another fun day on Ironforge chat channels... argument spanning /1 and /2 about whether or not a hunter should have Crusader on his weapon |
| 13:48.51 | kremonte | i wouldnt exactly call arguments "spam" |
| 13:48.53 | kremonte | =p |
| 13:52.08 | kaso| | why would a huner have crus :< |
| 13:52.45 | zenzelezz | I never said "spam" |
| 13:53.21 | zenzelezz | and for all I know the guy could be putting crusader on a weapon for an alt - either way it's up to him |
| 13:54.38 | Thrae | I once saw someone with a Fishing Pole that had Crusader on it. |
| 13:55.05 | haste | You can't enchant crusader on them anymore tho' :( |
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| 14:04.24 | Abenadi[FoF] | zenz I think maybe you were the one who helped me yesterday with getting a conditional cooldown animation to work - if so it worked like a charm, thanks! |
| 14:05.17 | zenzelezz | :) |
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| 14:10.22 | kaso| | I remeber seeing an addon a while back that did SpellStopCasting() to help with high lag, i cant remeber the name anyone know what im talking about? and does it still work since they nurfed Spellstopcasting |
| 14:10.59 | kaso| | nm found it |
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| 14:25.12 | zenzelezz | aw... the Fiery Weapon effect doesn't show on my mining pick when I use it for mining :( |
| 14:26.48 | Kaso | you can enchant pick?! |
| 14:26.58 | Kaso | i want my fishing rod enchanted and it wont let me do that ;< |
| 14:27.02 | zenzelezz | the "Mining Pick" at least |
| 14:28.11 | qw` | I can enchant my mining pick with i.e. Crusader? |
| 14:28.59 | zenzelezz | I would assume so, since Fiery Weapon worked |
| 14:29.39 | Corrodias | ugh. i must avoid thinking about those enchantments or i'll feel violently annoyed at the descriptions, again. |
| 14:31.09 | Kaso | descriptions? |
| 14:34.01 | Corrodias | "crusader" |
| 14:34.26 | Corrodias | that really tells me what it does. asshole. *directed at whoever wrote the description that goes on the item* |
| 14:43.02 | Industrial | -> home |
| 14:44.20 | grimman | /wave |
| 14:44.24 | Cide | crusader has a chance to proc +strength and heal, I believe :) |
| 14:46.33 | grimman | Bleh... tired. Worked really hard today. ;D |
| 14:46.36 | grimman | (not) |
| 14:46.49 | grimman | Ich will take a nap. |
| 14:48.30 | Corrodias | i'm heading to bed. 'ni |
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| 15:08.53 | qw` | Would it be possible to add questgivers on the minimap? Kind of like the yellow dots, but red dots instead? |
| 15:10.19 | Kirkburn | Like Gatherer? |
| 15:10.52 | Kirkburn | MetaMap has an NPC directory I think |
| 15:11.13 | qw` | Kind of like gatherer, but gatherer requires you to go over to the object and use it. More like automatically add a red dot if an NPC got an exclamationmark hovering above his head |
| 15:11.55 | Kirkburn | I doubt you can check to see what interaction abilities you have with an NPC from afar |
| 15:12.13 | Kirkburn | But you can have NPCs marked on the map |
| 15:13.03 | Kirkburn | MetaMap has a database, I just checked http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1645 |
| 15:13.45 | Kirkburn | "NPC/Mob database collectable by mouseover or keypress." |
| 15:17.10 | qw` | ah sweet, but that is static entries though |
| 15:23.21 | Tain | You can only add things like that the way Gatherer does, after you intereact with it. Or through static entries. |
| 15:23.45 | Tain | We don't get any nice ways to interact with the minimap like that, unfortunately. |
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| 15:34.46 | Kaso | i wish boulder would crit :< |
| 15:36.32 | Kaso | w |
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| 15:49.17 | Kirkburn | I've updated the wowwiki undocumented changed page again :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%28Release_Notes%29 |
| 15:51.20 | Corrodias | whoa, what the: # Innervate - This spell is now a base ability for all Druids, trainable at level 40. Any Druid who formerly had the Innervate talent now has the Swiftmend talent instead. |
| 15:52.06 | Corrodias | that's gonna be an interesting change. good thing i don't have to deal with it. |
| 15:57.03 | Kaso | Swiftmend is a awesome talent |
| 15:57.55 | Tain | Does it mend, but swiftly? |
| 16:00.18 | Corrodias | now i'm going to bed. [away] |
| 16:00.25 | Corrodias | silly me, so hard to get away! |
| 16:21.27 | Industrial | <- home |
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| 16:53.22 | Kirkburn | WoW, I want Office 2007 |
| 16:53.47 | Kirkburn | (interactive demo: http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/ui/demo.mspx) |
| 16:56.07 | zenzelezz | did they take the EU servers down or something? |
| 16:57.05 | End | is in eu patch day on wednesday? |
| 16:57.14 | zenzelezz | in the night, not in the evening |
| 16:57.15 | End | s/is in/isn't/ |
| 16:57.18 | End | ah |
| 16:57.22 | End | well, I dunno then |
| 16:57.57 | Kirkburn | Tseric linked this :D http://tsericnerfsgnomes.ytmnd.com/ |
| 16:58.06 | Kirkburn | (then he deleted the thread) |
| 16:58.06 | zenzelezz | it's sort of a dummy question... what I meant was "this is weird... I go to the store and come home unable to log in, and the server status page shows all realms as down" :) |
| 16:58.29 | Kirkburn | EU patch day is indeed wednesday |
| 16:58.52 | Kirkburn | I assume the authentication stuff is being done today |
| 16:58.55 | zenzelezz | yes, but again - in the morning, not the evening |
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| 16:59.38 | zenzelezz | login screen just an hour ago had no mention of any additional maintenance scheduled at least |
| 17:00.58 | Kirkburn | Login Server Down |
| 17:01.09 | Kirkburn | (the forums just told me that) |
| 17:01.28 | Kirkburn | As happened in the US, no forum updates cos no-one can log in =) |
| 17:01.36 | zenzelezz | our forums work |
| 17:01.48 | Kirkburn | 'our'? |
| 17:02.32 | zenzelezz | well, since you said "US", I figured "our" would be obvious enough; but I'm known to make bad assumptions |
| 17:03.22 | Kirkburn | Ah :P Well, I can't log into the EU forums atm |
| 17:03.47 | zenzelezz | hm, could be me again... at least people are still posting |
| 17:03.58 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Tem@204.90.50.252) |
| 17:04.00 | Kirkburn | if you're alreayd logged in, you're okay :P |
| 17:04.11 | Kirkburn | There was one person who was very very lonely on the US forums yesterday |
| 17:04.11 | zenzelezz | that would explain that part |
| 17:04.22 | Tem | anyone have any suggestions for a C# IDE? |
| 17:04.46 | Kirkburn | The poster wondered why no-one had posted a reply to her for four hours :) |
| 17:04.47 | zenzelezz | EU server status page is as slow as it is during normal downtime... I find this peculiar |
| 17:05.31 | Kirkburn | It took a long time for everything to get sorted in the US yesterday |
| 17:05.58 | Kirkburn | The EU website is down now =) |
| 17:06.13 | zenzelezz | if they did anything to the authentication system, wouldn't they do that while they did the regular weekly maintenance? |
| 17:06.19 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Maldivia (i=the_real@85.24.45.55) |
| 17:06.33 | Kirkburn | They probably did, it's liekly just not finished yet |
| 17:07.05 | zenzelezz | yeah, could be |
| 17:07.15 | zenzelezz | tricky systems I'm sure =) |
| 17:07.33 | Kirkburn | On that matter, anyone from the US noticed any difference since the upgrade? |
| 17:10.13 | zenzelezz | EU seems to be getting better, now I'm at "Authenticating" =) |
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| 17:12.48 | Kirkburn | Server must be back up, just sorting through the giant queue, probably |
| 17:14.22 | zenzelezz | hehe, "To fix the authentication problems we have restarted the login server, this will mean you cannot connect to the game till the server restarts. This shouldn't take more that 10mins and hopefully you should be able to login again." |
| 17:22.30 | [MoonWolf] | yay |
| 17:22.31 | [MoonWolf] | in. |
| 17:26.15 | Maldivia | *grumble* |
| 17:26.54 | Kirkburn | Maldivia? |
| 17:27.16 | Maldivia | annoys me the char-copy for PTR is still unavailable... |
| 17:27.19 | Maldivia | I want to test... |
| 17:27.50 | Tem | PTR patch today |
| 17:27.59 | Tain | I might have gotten a char copied, not really sure. And I haven't been able to find out because of the queues. |
| 17:28.11 | Maldivia | Tem: yeah, noticed... |
| 17:28.21 | Tem | any idea what they changed? |
| 17:28.25 | Maldivia | Tem: but still no char-copy... and the one I copied... well, it's not there... |
| 17:28.29 | Maldivia | NAxx boss fixes |
| 17:28.32 | Tem | ah |
| 17:28.42 | Tem | my copied character is there :) |
| 17:28.48 | Tem | (well, my premade is anyway) |
| 17:29.01 | Maldivia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-test&t=245919&p=1&tmp=1#post245919 |
| 17:29.16 | Maldivia | for the changes in the patch |
| 17:29.43 | Maldivia | I like McWeaksauce |
| 17:30.22 | Tem | "All Non-Boss creatures in the zone now has a leash distance. " |
| 17:30.28 | Tem | you can run away from bad pulls! |
| 17:31.06 | Maldivia | appears so |
| 17:31.35 | Tem | lol, no queue to get into the PTR either |
| 17:31.40 | [MoonWolf] | to bad that mostl likely is a testing change. |
| 17:31.52 | Industrial | [MoonWolf]: is EU getting an update? |
| 17:31.59 | Maldivia | EU got the update aswell |
| 17:32.01 | Industrial | now now |
| 17:36.19 | Kaso | # |
| 17:36.20 | Kaso | # Mr. Bigglesworth will no longer respawn |
| 17:36.22 | Kaso | :<<< |
| 17:36.25 | Kaso | damn them! |
| 17:36.34 | Maldivia | hmm, seen the Deathdealer changes? |
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| 17:37.19 | Maldivia | removed 19 strength and 37 agility... and added 78 AP... |
| 17:38.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Tem@204.90.50.252) |
| 17:38.36 | Maldivia | 76 actually |
| 17:38.56 | Maldivia | just seems like an big nerf for rogues.. |
| 17:39.07 | Tem | what's that? |
| 17:39.34 | Maldivia | Deathdealer chest piece was changed, lost it's strength (19) and agility (37), ad got 76 AP instead |
| 17:39.36 | Kirov | 1 more ap, but the loss of 2% crit |
| 17:39.48 | Maldivia | and dodge |
| 17:40.18 | Tem | ouch |
| 17:44.34 | Industrial | what is up with my SERVER >:( |
| 17:49.42 | Wobin | Yay. |
| 17:49.55 | Wobin | I feel more myself now that I have a suffixless nick =P |
| 17:52.47 | Cairenn | yay, people's names are now easier |
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| 17:53.23 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Rawr! |
| 17:54.01 | Shouryuu|Crazy | fine |
| 17:54.03 | zenzelezz | bad kitty |
| 17:54.06 | Shouryuu|Crazy | lol |
| 17:54.13 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 17:54.15 | MoonWolf | no brackets! |
| 17:54.33 | Shouryuu|Crazy | What;s the special occasion? |
| 17:54.40 | MoonWolf | look at my name |
| 17:54.42 | MoonWolf | no brackets |
| 17:54.49 | Shouryuu|Crazy | But why? |
| 17:55.00 | Maldivia | no longer in prison ? :) |
| 17:55.13 | MoonWolf | because its stupid to have them but the nick was registered by someone else |
| 17:55.23 | MoonWolf | but now its MINE ALL MINE |
| 17:55.36 | Shouryuu|Crazy | hehe |
| 17:55.49 | Maldivia | afk |
| 17:55.53 | MoonWolf | :p |
| 17:56.20 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Run away, run away! |
| 17:57.22 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Anyone who knows what movie my new sig is from gets a cookie! |
| 17:57.49 | MoonWolf | show sig |
| 17:57.50 | Kirov | Holy Grail? |
| 17:58.03 | Shouryuu|Crazy | weee |
| 17:58.04 | zenzelezz | with sharp pointy teeth :F |
| 17:58.04 | Cairenn | Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail |
| 17:58.26 | Shouryuu|Crazy | I knew you knew that :P |
| 17:58.33 | Wobin | Countest thou not to 2, unless thou art continueing to three |
| 17:58.37 | Wobin | Five is -right- out |
| 17:58.41 | Kirov | There are some who call me !.... Tim? |
| 17:58.54 | Shouryuu|Crazy | lol |
| 17:58.58 | Wobin | or is that four? =) |
| 17:59.01 | Shouryuu|Crazy | man that movie is so funny |
| 17:59.04 | Kirov | Five is right out |
| 17:59.24 | Wobin | Brave brave Sir Robin! So bravely ran away! |
| 17:59.27 | Cairenn | Let me face the peril! |
| 17:59.31 | Shouryuu|Crazy | hehe |
| 17:59.35 | Cairenn | I *want* to face the peril! |
| 17:59.43 | Wobin | (So they ate Robin's mintstrels, and there was much rejoicing) |
| 17:59.52 | Kirov | "One, two, five..." "three sir!" "three!" |
| 17:59.53 | zenzelezz | When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned around and fled |
| 17:59.59 | Wobin | (yaaaay) |
| 18:00.10 | MoonWolf | We found a witch, may we burn her? |
| 18:00.12 | Shouryuu|Crazy | lol |
| 18:00.19 | Kirov | How do you know she is a witch |
| 18:00.23 | Kirov | Well, she looks like one! |
| 18:00.25 | Wobin | She turned me into a newt! |
| 18:00.29 | Kirov | A newt? |
| 18:00.33 | Wobin | I got better... |
| 18:00.38 | Shouryuu|Crazy | lol |
| 18:00.39 | Cairenn | I'm not dead yet! *whack* |
| 18:00.40 | zenzelezz | None shall pass! |
| 18:00.53 | Wobin | (we are all such nerds =P) |
| 18:00.59 | MoonWolf | oh yeah. |
| 18:01.00 | MoonWolf | we are. |
| 18:01.13 | zenzelezz | why? People go quoting every other book and movie, why should this be different? |
| 18:01.24 | MoonWolf | between all of us we propably know the whole script of the holy grail. |
| 18:01.26 | Kirov | "I feeeel happy, I feeeel happy *twack*" "Oh, thanks very much" "No problem, see you thursday?" "right" |
| 18:01.27 | Wobin | Never said it was =) |
| 18:01.37 | Wobin | Just that we're nerds =) |
| 18:01.46 | Shouryuu|Crazy | I'm a nerd and proud of it! |
| 18:02.14 | Kirov | Knowing the entire script of Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a rite of passage for my family. |
| 18:02.22 | Shouryuu|Crazy | lol |
| 18:02.29 | Wobin | It truly is a classic |
| 18:02.34 | Wobin | Along with Life of Brian |
| 18:02.40 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Ahhh |
| 18:02.41 | zenzelezz | "We are the knights who say Ni!" "Not the knights who say Ni!?" "The same!" |
| 18:02.43 | Shouryuu|Crazy | love that one |
| 18:02.46 | MoonWolf | i should watch life of brain again |
| 18:02.47 | Cairenn | Our family has a joke that determines whether a person is worth our time or not ... |
| 18:02.49 | MoonWolf | its been a year or so now. |
| 18:02.54 | Wobin | "He's -not- the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!" |
| 18:03.06 | Industrial | guess ill stop bothering people then |
| 18:03.08 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Industrial (n=Industri@194.145.194.227) |
| 18:03.08 | zenzelezz | ah, Life of Brian... |
| 18:03.08 | Kirov | Wobin - wrong movie. heh |
| 18:03.21 | Wobin | For Life of Brian? =P |
| 18:04.14 | Kirov | Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you. |
| 18:04.51 | MoonWolf | Come and see the opression in the system! |
| 18:04.58 | Wobin | Help! Help! Come see the violence inherent in the system! |
| 18:05.05 | MoonWolf | oh that was it. |
| 18:05.11 | MoonWolf | i get that one wrong a lot. |
| 18:05.15 | Kirov | Dennis: Come and see the violence inherent in the system. Help! Help! I'm being repressed! |
| 18:05.15 | Kirov | King Arthur: Bloody peasant! |
| 18:05.15 | Kirov | Dennis: Oh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw him, Didn't you? |
| 18:05.27 | Shouryuu|Crazy | What good did the romans bring to this city!? |
| 18:05.51 | zenzelezz | aqueducts |
| 18:06.21 | Cairenn | ducts have always be aque! |
| 18:07.00 | Kirkburn | I'm not whether I should mention viaducts, or if I'm ruining a joke :P |
| 18:07.07 | Kirkburn | s/not/not sure/ |
| 18:07.42 | Cairenn | So, did you hear the one about the agnostic dyslexia insomniac? |
| 18:07.57 | Cairenn | dyslexic* |
| 18:08.03 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 18:08.15 | MoonWolf | How fitting. |
| 18:08.18 | Kirkburn | Nicely done :) |
| 18:08.22 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:09.04 | Cairenn | He'd lie awake at night wondering whether or not there is a dog |
| 18:09.11 | Kirkburn | heehee |
| 18:09.36 | Cairenn | okay, you guys all fail :p |
| 18:09.55 | Kirkburn | Not as silly as the guy who wished for everything he touched to turn into Glod. |
| 18:10.06 | MoonWolf | GLOD..... |
| 18:10.11 | Kirov | "Excuse me. Are you the Judean People's Front?" "Fuck off! We're the People's Front of Judea" |
| 18:10.13 | kremonte | GLOD! |
| 18:10.16 | Kirkburn | Glod Glodsson soon overran the city :) |
| 18:10.20 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Ahhh just got that Cair :P |
| 18:10.36 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Kirov lol |
| 18:11.00 | MoonWolf | I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. |
| 18:11.07 | Shouryuu|Crazy | lol |
| 18:12.13 | Kirkburn | Heh, the full scene: http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/brian/brian-07.htm |
| 18:12.33 | Kirkburn | "Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar. Tuscany fried bats." |
| 18:13.03 | Kirkburn | They do very good Tuscany fried bats here :) |
| 18:13.20 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 18:13.49 | Shouryuu|Crazy | But... you can't have babies. |
| 18:13.51 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Don't you oppress me. |
| 18:13.52 | Kirkburn | I suppose that nickname must have only started after Pyramids |
| 18:13.54 | Wobin | hehe now that's more original... a subject line for a spam mail: If a cow laughed hard enough, would milk come out it's nose? |
| 18:14.25 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 18:14.37 | Kirkburn | Is the actual email relevant? |
| 18:14.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:14.44 | Wobin | Asking about hot sex? |
| 18:14.47 | *** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 18:14.48 | Wobin | Hey Iriel! =) |
| 18:15.15 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 18:15.26 | Cairenn | asking about hot sex, and Iriel joins the channel |
| 18:15.28 | Kirkburn | lol |
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| 18:15.48 | Kirkburn | It's one way to give a compliment I suppose =) |
| 18:16.19 | MoonWolf | iriel, kinky bastard. |
| 18:19.21 | Wobin | Furries are on any channel Tekkub is on |
| 18:19.58 | Kirov | "Bad, wicked, naughty Zoot! She has been setting fire to our beacon, which - I have just remembered - is grail-shaped ... It is not the first time we've had this problem." "It's not the real Grail?" "Wicked wicked Zoot ... she is a bad person and she must pay the penalty. And here in Castle Anthrax, we have but one punishment ... you must tie her down on a bed ... and spank her. Come!" "A spanking! A spanking!" "You must sp |
| 18:19.59 | MoonWolf | nope not going to do it. |
| 18:20.08 | Iriel | It's not so much that I mess up, it's that I find IRC's communications iritating so I dont bother trying so much |
| 18:22.15 | Kirkburn | I really want to watch Life of Brian now :/ |
| 18:22.44 | Kirov | I haven't seen that or Meaning of Life for a while |
| 18:23.25 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Kirkburn I've just started watching it :P |
| 18:23.34 | Wobin | And this is the machine that goies "PING!" |
| 18:23.36 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 18:23.44 | Wobin | It's the most expensive machine in the hospital! |
| 18:23.51 | Kirkburn | "PING!" |
| 18:24.30 | Kirkburn | "You see? That means your baby is still alive!" |
| 18:24.34 | Kirov | Any movie that features a plethora of topless roller skating women is a-ok in my book. |
| 18:24.51 | Kirkburn | Mmm, roller skating |
| 18:24.52 | Wobin | Or having a dancing nun sing about how every sperm is sacred =P |
| 18:24.57 | MoonWolf | I found the recepy ot make doom suck less. |
| 18:25.00 | MoonWolf | topless women. |
| 18:26.01 | Kirkburn | "Aah! I see you have the machine that goes 'ping'. This is my favourite. You see, we lease this back from the company we sold it to, and that way, it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account." |
| 18:26.13 | Kirkburn | *applause* |
| 18:26.21 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 18:27.14 | Shouryuu|Crazy | rawr out |
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| 18:52.22 | Kirkburn | Hehehe, this should brighten your day - http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/ecky.wav |
| 18:53.05 | Kirov | heh, "We are no longer the Knights who say Nee, we are now the Knights who say ..." |
| 18:53.40 | Kirov | "What would you have of us, oh Knights ... oh Knights who so recently said Nee" |
| 18:57.32 | Wobin | Eccy eccy kthang ktong! |
| 19:08.33 | kremonte | gah, anyone have a function to find the levenshtein distance for 2 strings in lua? |
| 19:08.42 | kremonte | i can't adapt the ones on wikisource :( |
| 19:09.47 | Wobin | levenshtein? |
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| 19:11.15 | kremonte | yea, difference between 2 words |
| 19:11.21 | kremonte | In information theory, the Levenshtein distance or edit distance between two strings is given by the minimum number of operations needed to transform one string into the other, where an operation is an insertion, deletion, or substitution of a single character. It is named after Vladimir Levenshtein, who considered this distance in 1965. It is useful in applications that need to determine how similar two strings are, such as spell checke |
| 19:11.40 | kremonte | http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance <= in other programming languages |
| 19:11.44 | kremonte | but i don't know what half those functions doooo |
| 19:11.57 | kremonte | i'm trying to adapt the python version but it got all [][][] gobbldeygook on me |
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| 19:26.03 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 19:34.52 | Maldivia | greetings |
| 19:35.37 | Maldivia | uhh... char copy will be up soon (hopefully)... |
| 19:41.38 | Abenadi[FoF] | 2 lua table/array questions from a noob: |
| 19:42.01 | Abenadi[FoF] | can i create a 3-dimensional table/array like heals.greaterheal.cost=x heals.flasheal.avgheal=y? |
| 19:42.13 | Abenadi[FoF] | and how do I iterate through it when i'm done? |
| 19:43.25 | Iriel | Yes, you can |
| 19:43.51 | Iriel | heals = { greaterheal = { cost = x }, flashheal = { avgheal = y } } |
| 19:43.59 | Iriel | you'd need nested loops to iterate over it |
| 19:44.13 | Abenadi[FoF] | so the x.y.z format isn't valid lua? |
| 19:45.06 | AnduinLothar | sure, you just have to make sure you're indexing a table |
| 19:45.31 | Iriel | the x.y.z format is valid, as long as the table you're indexing exists |
| 19:45.39 | AnduinLothar | heals={};heals.flasheal={};heals.flasheal.avgheal=y |
| 19:45.55 | Abenadi[FoF] | OK so just have to define it first as you do above? |
| 19:46.49 | Abenadi[FoF] | I was hoping it could define 'on the fly' since I want to put at least 8 heal spells into 'heals' |
| 19:46.52 | kremonte | Iriel: any ideas on how to do a levenshtein in lua? >< |
| 19:47.17 | AnduinLothar | you only have to define the tables once |
| 19:48.28 | Abenadi[FoF] | if I just say heals.greaterheal4.cost=x; heals.greaterheal4.avgheal=y, does that not define the table as well as assign the value? |
| 19:48.53 | Iriel | kremonte : I'd use the java one as a base and then figure it out, but I dont have time to do it now otherwise i would 8-) |
| 19:48.54 | Iriel | Abenadi[FoF] : no |
| 19:49.06 | kremonte | i really should learn java sometime >< |
| 19:49.17 | Iriel | Abenadi[FoF] : Though it's fairly easy to write a createAndSet function |
| 19:49.23 | kremonte | i tried working off python but it did [i] + [0]*n, i don't know what the []'s mean ;/ |
| 19:49.27 | Iriel | Abenadi[FoF] : it may not be entirely efficient 8-) |
| 19:49.39 | Iriel | I dont know python well enough to answer either |
| 19:49.53 | kremonte | aye aye |
| 19:49.55 | Iriel | Java has some lua similarities that may make its version useful (immutable strings) |
| 19:50.17 | kremonte | all these nested arrays in other languages scare me |
| 19:51.03 | kremonte | what is string.toCharArray();? (java) |
| 19:51.21 | ckknight | it turns a string into a char[] |
| 19:51.30 | kremonte | i have no idea what that is ;( |
| 19:51.44 | Maldivia | array of letters |
| 19:51.59 | kremonte | abc = char["a", "b", "c"]? |
| 19:52.02 | Maldivia | yep |
| 19:52.06 | kremonte | mmm thanks |
| 19:52.15 | ckknight | or in simpler terms, turkey + lemon = awesome |
| 19:52.22 | kremonte | only way to do it in lua is with a gsub right? |
| 19:52.55 | kremonte | like string.gsub(str, "(.)", function(s) foo[] = s end) |
| 19:53.02 | kremonte | mmmk i'll stop asking questions |
| 19:53.07 | kremonte | i have a brain, i swear i do! |
| 19:53.08 | ckknight | lua doesn't do that... |
| 19:53.14 | ckknight | it's doubtful |
| 19:53.16 | kremonte | you can split things by letters |
| 19:53.20 | kremonte | i know that, was wondering the best way =p |
| 19:53.22 | Maldivia | well, if you want it split up, otherwise you can do a string.sub(str, x, x) instead of toCharArray()[x] |
| 19:53.33 | kremonte | local characters = {} |
| 19:53.33 | kremonte | string.gsub(msg, "(.)", function(s) table.insert(characters, s); end); |
| 19:53.36 | kremonte | works for me ^ |
| 19:53.52 | ckknight | yea, that'd do it |
| 19:53.59 | ckknight | why do youo want to, btw? |
| 19:54.12 | ckknight | you* |
| 19:54.24 | Abenadi[FoF] | Iriel, so if I understand correct, I can either first define the table like so: |
| 19:54.24 | Abenadi[FoF] | heals = {greaterheal1={cost,avgheal},greaterheal2 ={cost,avgheal},greaterh... } |
| 19:54.26 | kremonte | a name protect |
| 19:54.31 | Abenadi[FoF] | and then fill it like so: |
| 19:54.32 | kremonte | so people can't just do like, krmeonte |
| 19:54.36 | Abenadi[FoF] | heals.greaterheal1.cost=x; heals.greaterheal1.avgheal=y; heals.gr... |
| 19:54.48 | Abenadi[FoF] | or i can do both at once like so: |
| 19:54.48 | Abenadi[FoF] | heals = {greaterheal1={cost=x,avgheal=y},greaterheal2 ={cost=z,avgheal=w},greaterh... } |
| 19:55.05 | Abenadi[FoF] | is that right? |
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| 19:56.42 | kremonte | minimum() in java = math.min? |
| 19:57.00 | Maldivia | kremonte: yep, and math.min supports more than 2 input values |
| 19:57.05 | kremonte | yup yup |
| 19:57.06 | kremonte | :3 |
| 19:57.30 | Cide | Abenadi[FoF]: yes |
| 19:57.32 | Maldivia | Abenadi[FoF]: just heals = {greaterheal1={},greaterheal2 ={},greaterh... } |
| 19:57.44 | Maldivia | you dont have to define which fields you want to use before hand |
| 19:58.18 | Maldivia | if you specify like you did, it's the same as storing the values of those two variables in the [1] and [2] array spots in the table |
| 19:58.29 | kremonte | int[][] distance = new int[len1 + 1][]; |
| 19:58.31 | kremonte | wah? |
| 19:58.32 | kremonte | ._. |
| 19:58.45 | kremonte | java stinks, i quit computers |
| 19:58.49 | ckknight | that doesn't make sense |
| 19:58.53 | Cide | two dimensional array |
| 19:58.54 | ckknight | you need to supply two values |
| 19:58.55 | Maldivia | kremonte: 2D array, level one has len1-1 elements, level 2 varies |
| 19:58.58 | Iriel | declares distance as an array of arrays of integers |
| 19:59.00 | Abenadi[FoF] | so maldivia can I store the values as in my 3rd example? |
| 19:59.04 | ckknight | e.g. int[][] distance = new int[a][b] |
| 19:59.08 | Abenadi[FoF] | or last example / whatever |
| 19:59.10 | Cide | Maldivia won |
| 19:59.11 | Maldivia | Abenadi[FoF]: yes |
| 19:59.17 | ckknight | oh |
| 19:59.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 19:59.24 | ckknight | hrm |
| 19:59.27 | kremonte | so distance = {"a"= |
| 19:59.28 | kremonte | er |
| 19:59.33 | Abenadi[FoF] | that's probably the least code i think i'll try that |
| 19:59.34 | ckknight | I thought you had to supply a limit for arrays in java |
| 19:59.38 | kremonte | so distance = {"a"={"b"}}? |
| 19:59.39 | kremonte | ._. |
| 19:59.43 | Cide | distance = { }; for i = 1, len1+1, 1 do distance[i] = { } end |
| 19:59.45 | Iriel | ckknight : You do, but only one at a time |
| 19:59.47 | Cide | that's how I'd do it |
| 20:00.03 | Iriel | ckknight : It's an array of arrays, java doesn't have an in-built "2D array" |
| 20:00.09 | ckknight | really? |
| 20:00.12 | ckknight | no int[,]? |
| 20:00.21 | kremonte | domo, cide ^^ |
| 20:00.37 | ckknight | I'm used to using that in .NET |
| 20:01.01 | kremonte | so wait |
| 20:01.06 | kremonte | int is an array? |
| 20:01.09 | ckknight | no |
| 20:01.13 | ckknight | int[] is an array. |
| 20:01.15 | kremonte | only when it has []? |
| 20:01.15 | kremonte | k |
| 20:01.18 | Iriel | int is the type of the member of the final array |
| 20:01.29 | Iriel | distance is an array of int[] (array of int) |
| 20:01.29 | ckknight | int[] is an array of ints. |
| 20:01.33 | kremonte | i've never seen such commonplace words in such confusing circumstances |
| 20:01.51 | ckknight | int[][] is an array of an array of ints |
| 20:02.00 | ckknight | (jagged) |
| 20:02.05 | Iriel | or, to luaify, distance is an array-style table whose members are array-style tables, and their members are integers |
| 20:02.09 | Maldivia | Abenadi[FoF]: btw, heals.greaterheal1 - is the same as heals["greaterheal1"] - meaning it can be very usefull if you have the index stored in a string, for instance if str = "greaterheal1", than you can do heals[str].cost to get the cost of greater heal 1 |
| 20:02.21 | kremonte | mmm |
| 20:02.29 | kremonte | i gotta learn all this predefined type stuff someday i guess |
| 20:02.29 | kremonte | ._. |
| 20:02.54 | ckknight | static typing can be handy in some situations |
| 20:03.24 | Kirkburn | I sometimes wonder whether some bloggers ever read the forums =) http://www.wowinsider.com/2006/05/24/new-items-in-patch-1-11/ |
| 20:04.09 | Kirkburn | How on earth does she not know what the caster legendary is? |
| 20:04.18 | Abenadi[FoF] | thanks maldivia that's helpful, i was planning on using shorter names to begin with |
| 20:04.31 | Abenadi[FoF] | like heals.gh1 |
| 20:04.32 | Abenadi[FoF] | etc |
| 20:04.36 | ckknight | ew. |
| 20:05.36 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: well, I like that AD is offering 18 slot bags! |
| 20:07.10 | Kirkburn | I've heard that, but not seen any info about it |
| 20:07.51 | Maldivia | ithttp://www.whataboutpp.com/new-items.php |
| 20:07.58 | Maldivia | ehh, minus the it :) |
| 20:08.17 | Maldivia | it's from the new faction quests (like casual cenarion hold), you have to gather tokens for AD |
| 20:08.33 | Maldivia | and in return your can get various items, the higher faction you have with AD, the few tokens are required |
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| 20:20.41 | grimman | Hm... a use for Plated Armorfish. |
| 20:20.48 | grimman | That only took a year... |
| 20:22.06 | zenzelezz | there is a use for them now? |
| 20:28.31 | kremonte | does tonumber("") return nil/ |
| 20:30.12 | kremonte | nevermind :E |
| 20:39.57 | Kirkburn | Look out! It's the Bungie Waaaaaahmbulance! http://bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=waaahmbulance |
| 20:40.58 | Kirkburn | I wonder if Blizzard could ever do something like that :P |
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| 20:48.27 | kremonte | w00t |
| 20:48.32 | kremonte | my levenshtein works first try |
| 20:48.33 | kremonte | =D |
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| 20:53.13 | kremonte | question |
| 20:53.27 | kremonte | is there any way to see if there are any values in a table without table.getn? |
| 20:53.58 | End | next() |
| 20:54.34 | kremonte | next()? ._. |
| 20:54.40 | kremonte | without iterating, i mean |
| 20:55.15 | Iriel | next |
| 20:55.26 | Iriel | if (next(tableName)) then there are values |
| 20:55.29 | Iriel | well, technically |
| 20:55.36 | Iriel | if (next(tableName) ~= nil) |
| 20:55.41 | End | yeah |
| 20:55.43 | End | exactly |
| 20:55.47 | kremonte | oh |
| 20:55.51 | kremonte | misunderstood the function |
| 20:56.09 | Cide | next (table [, index]) |
| 20:56.43 | kremonte | i mean, i thought it was meant to be used in a loop er something |
| 20:56.46 | kremonte | silly name :E |
| 20:57.08 | Cide | it is generally used for that |
| 20:57.18 | Cide | but if there's not an initial value, then the table is empty |
| 20:57.19 | End | it -is- meant for that...which is where the index argument comes from |
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| 21:16.24 | MentalPower | ZOMG! We got Templates in Dynamically generated frames! |
| 21:17.47 | Wobin | ??!? |
| 21:17.58 | Wobin | <3 |
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| 21:20.19 | Wobin | link! |
| 21:20.50 | End | it's in the 1.11 changes thread |
| 21:23.18 | Wobin | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=343889&P=1 |
| 21:24.20 | Abenadi[FoF] | pcBaseHeals = {G1={c=370,h=956,f=0.86,n="Greater Heal(Rank 1)"},G2={c=455,h=1219,f=0.86,n="Greater Heal(Rank 2)"},G3={c=545,h=1523,f=0.86,n="Greater Heal(Rank 3)"},G4={c=655,h=1902,f=0.86,n="Greater Heal(Rank 4)"},H2={c=185,h=460,f=0.86,n="Heal(Rank 2)"},H3={c=255,h=604,f=0.86,n="Heal(Rank 3)"},H4={c=305,h=758,f=0.86,n="Heal(Rank 4)"},F7={c=380,h=885,f=0.43,n="Flash Heal(Rank 7)"}}; |
| 21:24.27 | Abenadi[FoF] | thanks guys <3 |
| 21:30.43 | Cide | * Virtual frame definitions will remain in memory after the initial XML parse pass, and can be accessed from updated CreateFrame/CreateFontString/CreateTexture methods. <- Does this mean that LoadOnDemand addons no longer need to include virtual frame definitions? |
| 21:31.29 | Cide | (I would assume yes) |
| 21:32.19 | End | I would assume yes as well. |
| 21:32.21 | MentalPower | correct, we don't need to specify virtual frames in the *.toc files |
| 21:32.30 | MentalPower | ...anymore |
| 21:32.53 | Tain | Down with XML! |
| 21:32.56 | Cide | excellent :) |
| 21:32.59 | MentalPower | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=343889&P=7 |
| 21:33.00 | Cide | Tain: learn2xml! |
| 21:33.07 | Tain | I did learn, I didn't like it. :( |
| 21:33.09 | MentalPower | thats slouken's post |
| 21:33.52 | End | learn2likethingsyoureallydon'tlike |
| 21:34.02 | Cide | Tain: if you don't like something, redefine taste. |
| 21:34.02 | Tain | I... no! |
| 21:34.05 | Tain | I refuse! |
| 21:34.52 | Cide | MentalPower: I should've learnt2read, thanks |
| 21:35.04 | MentalPower | lol, not a problem |
| 21:36.22 | Tain | So we'll be able to inherit from a virtual frame defined in XML from CreateFrame() ? I am pleased. |
| 21:36.30 | Cide | indeed |
| 21:37.11 | Cide | that solves a lot of the annoyances with dynamically created frames |
| 21:37.56 | Tain | Yeah, and sort of gets rid of days of work I spent redifining some of the Bliz frame templates in Lua. |
| 21:37.58 | Tain | But that's ok! |
| 21:38.03 | Tain | Everything is a learning experience. |
| 21:38.13 | Wobin | Gah. EnumerateFrames will instantiate virtuals =( |
| 21:38.26 | Wobin | er unnamed |
| 21:38.56 | Iriel | Instantiate 'special' unnamed |
| 21:39.06 | Iriel | Normal unnamed ones are already instantiated |
| 21:39.34 | Iriel | Yes, it does mean that |
| 21:39.39 | Wobin | 'special'? |
| 21:39.50 | Iriel | (to the LOD not needing to include blizz virtuals) |
| 21:40.24 | Iriel | The only thing that's changed in the virtual frame code is that they dont get removed from memory at the end of an XML parsing run, so they'll behave exactly as if you had included the XML files, or had loaded normally. |
| 21:40.36 | Cide | yeah, that's what I presumd |
| 21:40.53 | Wobin | I have an addon that uses EnumerateFrames to try and find actionbuttons... how will this affect it? |
| 21:41.02 | Cide | which also takes away some of the annoyances of using load on demand addons :) |
| 21:42.12 | Iriel | Wobin: It'll just mean it instantiates a bunch of things, I have code that looks for stuff too, I dont think this is necessarily avoidable. |
| 21:43.13 | Wobin | You don't think it's possibly such a bad thing to have them instantiated |
| 21:43.28 | Wobin | (or will have minimal impact for the return) |
| 21:45.11 | Iriel | It's probably not so bad, and if it's awful the only solution will be to have slouken add support for us to say 'dont instantiate those' |
| 21:45.56 | Tain | It will be interesting to see how the inheritance works. I know I had to rethink some things because they may work a little differently when you try to do the same thing in lua as defined in xml. |
| 21:46.21 | Tain | For example action buttons. Actually I know I won't have the best example since I dont' remember the details. |
| 21:46.53 | Tain | But basically having to think a little more about how defining a script running on "this" works. |
| 21:47.20 | MoonWolf | More tough into what THIS currently is is nevr bad. |
| 21:47.41 | Tain | It is when I want to be lazy. :( |
| 21:48.44 | Iriel | Wobin: I asked about it in the 1.11 thread, just be be sure. |
| 21:48.48 | Iriel | Tain: How do you mean? |
| 21:48.50 | Wobin | Cool =) |
| 21:49.47 | Tain | Yeah I figured someone would ask for a specific example. :) I can't remember off the top of my head and don't have the code handy that I was working with at the time. |
| 21:51.33 | Tain | But basically I think it had to do with trying to define a frame in Lua and assigning Blizzard's ActionButton_OnUpdate() to it |
| 21:52.21 | Tain | And "this" not being the button calling it. |
| 21:52.42 | Iriel | Tain: The one thing we can't do with lua only CreateFrame inheritance is stop OnLoad from running |
| 21:52.46 | Iriel | and i'm going to ask for that now 8-) |
| 21:52.59 | Tain | Oh right... good plan! |
| 21:53.12 | End | ahhh, yeah |
| 21:54.15 | Tain | By the way, Half-Life 2:Episode One has gone gold. :D |
| 21:54.22 | End | doh, stupid forum errors |
| 21:54.24 | Cide | there will be a need for quite a lot of cookies |
| 21:54.35 | Tain | I'll open a bake shop in Slouken's name. |
| 21:54.41 | Iriel | I sent 96 |
| 21:54.47 | End | wow, that's a lot of cookies |
| 21:54.54 | Iriel | we might have some cookie credit, i'm not sure |
| 21:54.57 | Wobin | I wonder if we can send him like... 500 boxes of Krispy Kremes like they did to Penny Arcade =P |
| 21:54.58 | End | a lot of well deserved cookies though :P |
| 21:55.00 | Tain | Best to play it safe. |
| 21:55.12 | Iriel | I dont have Sony's budget |
| 21:55.14 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 21:55.19 | Tain | haha |
| 21:55.41 | Tain | Maybe do a little change up, I can whip up some mean brownies. |
| 21:55.53 | Wobin | I make nifty banana bread |
| 21:56.01 | Tain | Ooh I loves good banana bread. |
| 21:56.12 | Tain | That's how one of my past girlfriends hooked me. |
| 21:56.12 | Wobin | Contents may settle somewhat during transit from Beijing though =P |
| 21:56.22 | Tain | She baked me some damn good banana bread. |
| 21:56.58 | Cairenn | I have a recipe for a very tasty tart that has been handed down through the generations in my family |
| 21:57.02 | Tain | Unfortunately as odd as it may sound, good banana bread isn't the only thing a relationship needs. |
| 21:57.13 | Wobin | hehe |
| 21:57.13 | MoonWolf | wait |
| 21:57.15 | MoonWolf | damnit |
| 21:57.18 | MoonWolf | there goes another plan |
| 21:57.23 | Tain | Cairenn is a tart? ;) |
| 21:57.28 | Wobin | You need tea |
| 21:57.49 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.51 | Wobin | Is that what they call genetics nowadays? "recipe" |
| 21:58.39 | Tain | Subtle is my middle name. |
| 21:58.51 | End | weird middle name if you ask me |
| 21:59.03 | Wobin | Along with "As a Brick In The Face" |
| 21:59.08 | AnduinLothar | how tasty is it? |
| 21:59.08 | Tain | It has a lot of meaning. |
| 21:59.11 | Tain | It's just suble. |
| 21:59.14 | Wobin | Your parents were eccentric |
| 21:59.16 | Tain | s/suble/subtle/ |
| 21:59.17 | End | I bet it is |
| 21:59.46 | Wobin | If we had our way, Slouken would be buried in bakedgoods =P |
| 22:00.01 | Tain | Not so much that he can't reach the keyboard anymore. |
| 22:00.05 | Wobin | True |
| 22:00.09 | Wobin | We'd clear a space |
| 22:00.44 | End | clearing a space won't help if we turn him into a slouken-blimp |
| 22:00.52 | AnduinLothar | neural interface? |
| 22:00.56 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: very, and it's not a recipe that many know of |
| 22:01.15 | Cairenn | Iriel *might* have heard of them |
| 22:01.16 | Wobin | What's it called,Cair? |
| 22:01.42 | Cairenn | they're called Egg Tarts, but that really doesn't convey it |
| 22:01.52 | Wobin | Egg custard? |
| 22:01.54 | Iriel | Egg custard? |
| 22:01.55 | Cairenn | nope |
| 22:01.58 | Wobin | hehe |
| 22:02.18 | End | Ear Custard |
| 22:02.23 | Iriel | Things do change names as they cross the atlantic, however |
| 22:02.44 | MoonWolf | what would be the difference between a tart and a pie ? |
| 22:02.47 | Cairenn | They're traditionally only made at christmas |
| 22:02.49 | Wobin | open faced? |
| 22:02.54 | Cairenn | size |
| 22:02.57 | Wobin | ah |
| 22:03.09 | Wobin | well.. pies can be all sorts of sizes |
| 22:03.12 | Wobin | look at mince pies |
| 22:03.25 | MoonWolf | In dutch we only have Taart. |
| 22:03.27 | Cairenn | Might be Egg custard, although I don't think so ... |
| 22:03.37 | Cairenn | what's in Egg Custard? |
| 22:03.42 | Wobin | Generally a sweet yellow jellylike filling |
| 22:03.51 | Wobin | (custard like even =P) |
| 22:04.10 | Cairenn | I meant the ingredients :p |
| 22:04.39 | Wobin | Eggs, milk, vanilla sugar |
| 22:04.40 | Tain | Egg yolks beaten with sugar, cooked slowly to make a custard. |
| 22:04.43 | Wobin | er, comma |
| 22:04.54 | Cairenn | okay, same thing |
| 22:04.58 | Iriel | egg, vanilla, sugar, nutmeg, milk |
| 22:05.10 | Iriel | one of my favorite desserts actually |
| 22:05.10 | Tain | Heavy cream! |
| 22:05.14 | Wobin | Mmmm |
| 22:05.34 | Wobin | Damn you all |
| 22:05.46 | Wobin | Now I'm craving pastries I have no chance whatsoever of finding =P |
| 22:05.48 | MoonWolf | Wobin got hungry. |
| 22:05.55 | Tain | Me too, and it's actually dinner time here. |
| 22:05.57 | Wobin | Yus |
| 22:06.04 | Tain | Even if I did make pizza for a late lunch. |
| 22:06.05 | Cairenn | damnit |
| 22:06.18 | Wobin | I'll go have some banana bread as consolation |
| 22:06.24 | AnduinLothar | mmm krispy kreme chocolate glazed creme filled... |
| 22:06.29 | Cairenn | h8 Wobin |
| 22:06.32 | Wobin | ack. |
| 22:06.36 | MoonWolf | Wobin, i want that bread! |
| 22:06.38 | Tain | Krispy Kreme makes my teeth hurt just thinking about it. |
| 22:06.42 | Wobin | I'm going into sugar shock just with that name |
| 22:06.51 | Legorol | for us uneducated EU folks, what is a Krispy Kreme? |
| 22:06.59 | Wobin | it's an american donut |
| 22:07.00 | Cairenn | donuts |
| 22:07.04 | Tain | Once I get into my new place I'll have my own kitchen again. |
| 22:07.06 | Wobin | basically, however, it's sugar |
| 22:07.11 | Wobin | in a donut shape |
| 22:07.11 | Cairenn | Krispy Kreme is just a brand name |
| 22:07.14 | Tain | and then I'll bake! |
| 22:07.17 | MoonWolf | its a donut with extra suger, suger on top and suger filling. |
| 22:07.26 | Legorol | is there anything special about KK that sets it apart from other donuts? |
| 22:07.33 | Wobin | The reason they spell it donut, is cause it has no dough =P |
| 22:07.37 | Legorol | hehe MoonWolf beat me to it |
| 22:07.38 | AnduinLothar | Krispy Kreme is the most unhealthy and thus, most desirable kind |
| 22:07.51 | Legorol | right |
| 22:08.00 | Legorol | isn't that always |
| 22:08.01 | AnduinLothar | it's the elite of donut kind |
| 22:08.13 | MoonWolf | also you teeth shatter when a non accustom person tries to eat them. |
| 22:08.17 | Wobin | IT's the unhealthy Supermodel style donut |
| 22:08.23 | AnduinLothar | i once at an assorted dozen in one sitting |
| 22:08.43 | Wobin | stick thin, bad for you in quantities of more than one and often so saccherine it makes your teeth hurt |
| 22:08.57 | Tain | One of the things about Krispy Kreme is you can often get them warm. |
| 22:08.57 | MoonWolf | wow my auction of solid stone sold in 5 minutes. |
| 22:09.10 | Wobin | I need more solid stone =( |
| 22:09.11 | Tain | Which you don't usually get with donut places. |
| 22:09.25 | Wobin | Tain: You need better doughnut places |
| 22:09.36 | AnduinLothar | ya, they roll them off the machines that you can watch, and they'r all perfectly shapped |
| 22:09.38 | Wobin | There's nothing nicer than a bag full of freshly made cinnamon doughnuts |
| 22:09.44 | Tain | Can't argue, Wobin. |
| 22:09.49 | Tain | We just don't get them here. |
| 22:09.52 | Wobin | (Then you watch them fill the machine with buckets of fat) |
| 22:09.58 | Tain | This is actually Dunkin Donuts country where I am. |
| 22:10.03 | AnduinLothar | it's like the starbucks of donuts |
| 22:10.09 | Wobin | AL: Truth |
| 22:10.18 | Tain | Where most of the stores don't make their donuts on-site and instead get them delivered. |
| 22:10.23 | AnduinLothar | corporate business |
| 22:10.42 | Wobin | Tain: That's sad =( |
| 22:10.56 | Wobin | We have a patisserie (Michel's) that does that |
| 22:10.58 | AnduinLothar | unfortunetly they went bankrupt and had to be bought out, but they still produce under the same name |
| 22:11.03 | Wobin | (patisserie chain that is) |
| 22:11.21 | Wobin | All the pastries and cakes are identical in every shop |
| 22:11.26 | Wobin | And they all taste like crap =( |
| 22:11.40 | Tain | I've often had a dream of opening a pastry shop... |
| 22:11.47 | Tain | Well, maybe more of a fleeting thought than a dream. |
| 22:11.51 | MoonWolf | hehe |
| 22:11.52 | Wobin | Then you'd have to start work at 3am every morning =P |
| 22:12.01 | MoonWolf | more of a think about all the good stuffi could eat thought. |
| 22:12.05 | Wobin | hehe yeah |
| 22:12.23 | Tain | Nah, I bake a lot now (well not currently because of where I'm living but in general) and don't eat it. |
| 22:12.35 | Tain | I used to make the people at work angry though after a while. |
| 22:12.35 | MoonWolf | you dont eat it. |
| 22:12.37 | Wobin | It's hard to bake for one |
| 22:12.40 | MoonWolf | eating it is half the fun. |
| 22:12.43 | Tain | Well I eat it, but not the whole thing. |
| 22:12.52 | MoonWolf | ah well yeah |
| 22:12.58 | MoonWolf | i have family to eat the rest. |
| 22:13.19 | MoonWolf | leave a cake in this house on the kitchin for 2 days and its gone. |
| 22:13.24 | Wobin | There's this flourless hazelnut cake I like to make. Easiest clean up ever since it uses no oil =P |
| 22:13.39 | Kirkburn | Stickies in the test realm forum are acting like Tribbles :/ They keep on multiplying! |
| 22:13.41 | Kirkburn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.aspx?ForumName=wow-realm-test |
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| 22:13.57 | MoonWolf | Kirkburn, are they cute and fluffy ? |
| 22:14.07 | Kirkburn | Slightly. |
| 22:14.18 | Wobin | cute and stubbly? |
| 22:14.27 | Kirkburn | That's Hortus ^ |
| 22:14.48 | Kirkburn | (he's a gnome) |
| 22:16.55 | Tain | Alright now I want to find some dinner. |
| 22:21.26 | Kirkburn | hehehe ... http://blue.cardplace.com/cache/wow-warrior/1029928.htm |
| 22:26.41 | Wobin | hm |
| 22:26.45 | Wobin | Y'know what I miss? |
| 22:26.51 | Wobin | Really Good Seafood |
| 22:27.25 | Wobin | I miss being able to go down to the corner fish and chip shop and get fresh baked salmon with lemon and dill |
| 22:27.36 | Wobin | on a pile of chips |
| 22:28.06 | Wobin | Living inland sucks =( |
| 22:28.20 | Cairenn | I miss places that say "chips" instead of "fries" |
| 22:28.59 | Tem | are you in the US Cairenn? |
| 22:29.06 | Wobin | Come live in Australia, Cair! =) |
| 22:29.30 | Cairenn | Wobin: give my hubby and I jobs, I'd move in a heartbeat |
| 22:29.38 | Cairenn | Tem: nope, Canada |
| 22:30.09 | Cairenn | but more places say "fries" than "chips" here in Ontario |
| 22:30.21 | Cairenn | NS, it was about a 50/50 split which you'd hear them called |
| 22:31.23 | End-afk | oh, I just realized how completely awesome GetAddOnMetadata is |
| 22:32.40 | Abenadi[FoF] | is there an event fired when equipment changes? |
| 22:35.38 | Iriel | One of the INVENTORY ones |
| 22:36.36 | Abenadi[FoF] | unit_inventory_changed? |
| 22:37.46 | Iriel | sounds about right |
| 22:37.53 | Abenadi[FoF] | k thanks |
| 22:39.18 | AnduinLothar | link to zeeg's wiki for wdb files? |
| 22:40.22 | Maldivia | Position on queue: 4196... grr |
| 22:40.35 | haste | I'm unable to patch :( |
| 22:43.44 | Iriel | Did you shut the client down? |
| 22:46.05 | Kirkburn | What are the names of all the CMs, past and present |
| 22:46.11 | Kirkburn | I'm making a list on the wowwiki |
| 22:46.24 | Tem | Maldivia: are you EU? |
| 22:46.35 | Maldivia | have both EU and US accounts |
| 22:46.43 | Tem | the US PTR has no queue |
| 22:46.57 | Tem | The world server is down, but no queue |
| 22:47.06 | Maldivia | PvP or PvE? |
| 22:47.09 | Tem | PVE |
| 22:47.18 | Tem | (where all the copied characters went) |
| 22:47.30 | Maldivia | don't have a char on PvE :| |
| 22:47.42 | Maldivia | haven't been able to copy any chars on US yet |
| 22:48.14 | Maldivia | Have a level 1 mage on Pve... |
| 22:48.19 | Maldivia | not much fun to test mage talents with :) |
| 22:48.27 | Maldivia | it's fine for UI though |
| 22:48.36 | haste | Iriel: I think it's the fact that the PTR patches don't like linux |
| 22:50.16 | Maldivia | Tem, and the PvP server is totally dead :) |
| 22:50.35 | Tem | there's no one there because they didn't let people copy character there |
| 22:50.45 | Tem | (except the real ones) |
| 22:50.54 | Maldivia | a total of 48 players on PvP, 1 60, the rest level 1-20 |
| 22:51.18 | Tem | haha |
| 22:51.34 | Tem | pve ptr is "offline" atm |
| 22:51.41 | Maldivia | yeah, noticed |
| 22:51.47 | Tem | which is, btw, something I've never seen on the realm list before |
| 22:52.07 | Abenadi[FoF] | when printing using DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage() is there an escape character or something for a new line? |
| 22:52.15 | Maldivia | \n |
| 22:52.18 | Abenadi[FoF] | k thanks |
| 22:52.26 | Maldivia | pve is up again |
| 22:53.10 | Maldivia | logon... [spam spam spam] /leave 4 |
| 22:53.25 | Maldivia | fuck I'm sick and tired of all those spammers on ptr |
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| 22:53.46 | Tain | It's every realm. I leave 1, 3, 4 (or is it 2?) every server, every char. |
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| 22:54.09 | Maldivia | never been bad on the servers I'm on |
| 22:54.41 | Tain | I admittedly have a low threshold. |
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| 22:56.28 | Tain | Tomorrow is Towel Day, don't forget. |
| 22:56.48 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Towel Day? |
| 22:57.08 | Tain | Yes! |
| 22:57.14 | Tain | Don't Panic! And always carry a towel. |
| 22:57.32 | Tain | http://www.towelday.kojv.net/ |
| 22:57.35 | Maldivia | Tain: you on PvE? |
| 22:57.47 | Tain | Yes Maldivia |
| 22:57.53 | Maldivia | alliance or horde? |
| 22:58.27 | Tain | both |
| 22:58.45 | Maldivia | ohh yeah, it's pve |
| 22:58.53 | Tain | I have characters of varying levels littered across the servers |
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| 23:06.34 | Maldivia | damn the EU interface boards moves slow!! |
| 23:07.44 | Kaso | EU UI boards are just people A) ASking if an addon is illegal or B) Asking what UI x pvp movie has |
| 23:07.51 | Kaso | thats pretty much it |
| 23:08.06 | Cairenn | us is much the same |
| 23:08.36 | Cide | sadly |
| 23:08.55 | Cide | ever since the forum was renamed "UI & Macros" from "Interface Customizations".. |
| 23:08.56 | Maldivia | Kaso: well, there was a nice "how do I remove all my buffs" question :) |
| 23:09.14 | Cide | aah, the good ole' days! |
| 23:10.03 | Kaso | true true |
| 23:10.51 | Maldivia | I posted in that thread 6 hours ago or so, and it's still in the top 5 posts on page 1... |
| 23:10.51 | Shouryuu|Crazy | At least we don't get the "How do I install an addon?" so much anymore |
| 23:11.36 | Maldivia | hehe, and a "how do I remove a buff" thread just emerged on US :) |
| 23:11.42 | Shouryuu|Crazy | :P |
| 23:11.47 | Miravlix | The coder community isn't big enough. |
| 23:12.07 | Cide | does it have to be 'big'? |
| 23:12.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kalroth (n=kalroth@port114.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 23:12.09 | Miravlix | We are simply to small to make much impact out there on our own. |
| 23:12.14 | Cide | and what would you define as 'big enough'? :) |
| 23:12.27 | Miravlix | We make a big impact due to who is using our addons. |
| 23:12.36 | Shouryuu|Crazy | there is a large coding community, jsut not enought that hang around on the forums... |
| 23:12.44 | Tain | Awesome awesome Elder Scrolls: Oblivion physics Dominos video |
| 23:12.45 | Tain | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyHiIeBsc9E |
| 23:12.47 | Miravlix | It's petit |
| 23:13.21 | Miravlix | Most of us is on first name basis with most other coders, thats how small the community is |
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| 23:14.14 | Shouryuu|Crazy | There are plenty of coders out there... Just not enough who want to help |
| 23:14.20 | Kalroth | I'm not, I call Cide for Mr Cide! |
| 23:14.29 | Miravlix | But the impact... now a handfull of people is shapeing the destiny of the future of the UI. |
| 23:15.05 | Miravlix | Well, we use nicks, it was methaphorically speaking. :) |
| 23:15.07 | Tain | With great power comes great responsibility. |
| 23:15.43 | Kaso | Where is the orginal source of that quote, anyone know? |
| 23:16.01 | Tain | Uncle Ben. |
| 23:16.12 | Kalroth | lol |
| 23:16.21 | Miravlix | Some Super Cartoon |
| 23:16.22 | Kaso | Was it in spiderman comics? |
| 23:16.30 | Tain | Yes, Spiderman. |
| 23:16.34 | Kalroth | yup, but I think there's an older origin |
| 23:16.40 | Tain | Whatever! |
| 23:16.44 | Kalroth | but Uncle Ben did say that to Peter :) |
| 23:16.45 | Miravlix | Well, cartoon is darn old |
| 23:16.51 | Tain | You can't question Uncle Ben. |
| 23:16.53 | Maldivia | Tain: hehe, that's actually pretty cool (domino) |
| 23:17.09 | Tain | haha that thing is great Maldivia. Someone spend a LOT of time. |
| 23:17.18 | Maldivia | too much time |
| 23:17.46 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Aye\ |
| 23:18.00 | Wobin | Far too much time |
| 23:18.04 | Wobin | But highly impressive |
| 23:20.02 | Maldivia | arghh... grr... |
| 23:20.04 | Shouryuu|Crazy | I am two fools, I know, |
| 23:20.04 | Miravlix | Thats a pretty nice physics engine |
| 23:20.20 | Maldivia | "The server is too busy, please try again at a later time." |
| 23:20.24 | Shouryuu|Crazy | Ok I'm our |
| 23:20.34 | Shouryuu|Crazy | bwfoew I start saying anything dumb |
| 23:20.36 | Shouryuu|Crazy | night |
| 23:20.46 | Maldivia | too late.... |
| 23:21.22 | Cide | isn't that physics engine pretty standard nowadays? |
| 23:21.25 | Cide | the features, I mean |
| 23:21.34 | Tem | lol people suck on the test server |
| 23:21.40 | Kalroth | Yup, for single players it is, Cide |
| 23:21.40 | Cide | (maybe the large number of objects involved make it above standard, not sure) |
| 23:21.50 | Tem | even on my laptop where I miss all my keybinds, I destroy people |
| 23:21.52 | Kalroth | You can even buy it :) |
| 23:22.11 | Cide | I mean |
| 23:22.16 | Kalroth | http://www.havok.com/ |
| 23:22.18 | Maldivia | Tem: horde or alliance on PTR PvE ? |
| 23:22.24 | Cide | I would say the half-life 2 physics are excellent |
| 23:22.31 | Cide | and they work tremendously good in multi-player as well |
| 23:23.07 | Cide | yeah, havok is what HL2 used (but modified) |
| 23:23.32 | Kalroth | yeah ok, I guess we need three categories then, single, multi, massively-multi :) |
| 23:23.54 | Tem | Maldivia: Horde |
| 23:24.05 | Cide | haha, well, I wouldn't expect an MMORPG to have that kind of physics :) |
| 23:24.16 | Kalroth | the latency issues alone >< |
| 23:25.51 | Kalroth | oi Cide, I got a tiny request for ctprofiles :p |
| 23:25.57 | Cide | shoot |
| 23:26.35 | Kalroth | to see base character attributes, maybe show the added as a tooltip like ingame (77+180) |
| 23:27.12 | Kalroth | it was just something that irked me earlier, not that big a deal :) |
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| 23:27.37 | Cide | not a bad idea |
| 23:28.25 | Cide | I'll add it to my list of things to do ;) |
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| 23:28.29 | Cide | thanks |
| 23:28.30 | Kalroth | Thanks :) |
| 23:28.40 | Tem | woah! |
| 23:28.44 | Tem | Maldivia: are you on the PTR atm? |
| 23:28.59 | Maldivia | alliance, level 1 char |
| 23:29.10 | Tem | bah |
| 23:29.19 | Tem | it looks like Cold Snap cleared the cooldown on Fire Ward |
| 23:29.21 | Maldivia | trying to copy a char... |
| 23:30.11 | Maldivia | so far, I'm on step two... |
| 23:30.21 | Maldivia | but keeps getting "too busy" |
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| 23:43.07 | Maldivia | But is Cold Snap resetting Ice Block? |
| 23:43.13 | Maldivia | whne you're moving / jumping |
| 23:43.30 | Tem | oh is that the cause of the bug? |
| 23:44.13 | Maldivia | I've read that it fails most often, when moving/jumping when using Cold Snap |
| 23:44.26 | Maldivia | personally, I usually just bitch and die, when it fails... |
| 23:46.13 | Tem | hehe |
| 23:47.41 | Maldivia | well, cold snap is one of those kill or be killed talents... |
| 23:52.12 | Tem | Maldivia: on the cold snap fix |
| 23:52.13 | Tem | no |
| 23:52.16 | Tem | it just failed on me |
| 23:52.20 | Maldivia | grr |
| 23:52.28 | Maldivia | were you jumping/moving ? |
| 23:52.35 | Tem | (and you'll be _surprized_ to know that I died as a result) |
| 23:52.39 | Tem | I was moving |
| 23:52.42 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 23:52.42 | Tem | not jumping |
| 23:53.01 | Maldivia | I got to step 3 this time... but no no... "Try again" |
| 23:53.16 | Tem | make a hordie when you get through |
| 23:54.18 | Tem | ok, so that's an odd bug |
| 23:54.21 | Tem | I can't leave the BG |
| 23:54.45 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 23:55.23 | Maldivia | I'd wish people would go raid AQ, so I could get on the PTR, and the char copy page... |
| 23:55.36 | Tem | heh |
| 23:57.06 | Maldivia | server down ? |
| 23:57.53 | Tem | not sure |
| 23:58.19 | Tem | ah there we go |
| 23:58.24 | Tem | but time for me to get home |
| 23:59.16 | Maldivia | hmm, guess I'll try the char copy tomorrow instead... |
| 23:59.27 | Maldivia | world server is down anyway... |
| 23:59.51 | Maldivia | that's the good part of living in EU, whne I get up, it's in the middle of the night in the US, meaning noone will be hammering the server :) |
