| 00:00.58 | Kirkburn | By blocking them ... |
| 00:02.17 | GenNMX|Thrae | How? You bind a function to 'W', which calls Function A, B, C in chain, where they may be functions from other addons. |
| 00:02.37 | GenNMX|Thrae | How would you prevent that? You cannot bind a function to a key that is also bound to movement? |
| 00:03.33 | Guillotine | you cannot call ANY movement functions in any scripts |
| 00:03.47 | Guillotine | and you can't hook the key bindings now either |
| 00:03.54 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ahhh |
| 00:04.00 | GenNMX|Thrae | No hooking now, gotcha |
| 00:04.25 | Cairenn | *sigj* |
| 00:04.37 | Cairenn | *sigh* even |
| 00:05.09 | Cairenn | like life isn't exciting enough, I had to just go and burn the tips of my fingers ... typing is now a challenge |
| 00:05.22 | Cairenn | lovely bloody timing |
| 00:05.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | Cair'mwear'm has the hiccups? |
| 00:05.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | Oh? Why the self-mutilation? |
| 00:06.07 | Cairenn | 450F at that |
| 00:06.45 | GenNMX|Thrae | My grandfather has a bad habit of using oven mits for washing dishes |
| 00:07.06 | Cairenn | the pan started to slip out of my hand, so I (instinctively) grabbed the edge of it with the other hand ... the hand that wasn't in an oven mitt |
| 00:07.21 | GenNMX|Thrae | Most of it drys over time, but there's usually enough liquid left to give me some nice burns when I try to bring that pizza out of the oven |
| 00:07.36 | GenNMX|Thrae | Cairenn: I hate it when that happens. |
| 00:07.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | That's why I always wear oven mitts, 24/6. |
| 00:07.54 | Legorol | how long have you known about the patch? |
| 00:08.07 | GenNMX|Thrae | It would be 24/7, but my religion prevents me wearing them on Sundays. |
| 00:08.15 | Legorol | ok ok we know you can't tell |
| 00:08.19 | Legorol | but maybe a little birdie can tell us |
| 00:08.31 | ckknight | just change your nick, tell us, then change back |
| 00:08.39 | ckknight | then no one will know it was you |
| 00:08.46 | ckknight | not even me. |
| 00:08.57 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 00:09.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:09.06 | Iriel | Hm, that means I have work to do tonight, bah |
| 00:09.06 | NotCairenn | I admit it -- I knew about the patch. |
| 00:09.20 | Iriel | I've been slacking on my addons and playing WITH the patch rather than updating FOR it |
| 00:11.32 | Kirkburn | hehe naughty naughty |
| 00:11.52 | Legorol | weee, they left the EU contest realms up tonight! |
| 00:12.03 | Legorol | for the past two weeks they have always gone down at this hour |
| 00:12.17 | Legorol | no wonder, only about 7 hours of contest left |
| 00:12.24 | Kirkburn | Lets hope I can log into the ui sites and update 2moro morning :S |
| 00:12.36 | Kirkburn | I'm off to bed now! Night night all! |
| 00:12.42 | Cairenn | okay guys, if you've got your files ready for the patch, hows about getting them uploaded tonight, please? |
| 00:12.56 | Cairenn | night Kirkburn |
| 00:13.08 | Cairenn | easier on everyone tomorrow |
| 00:13.10 | Kirkburn | Hope your fingers get better Cairenn :P I'd upload 2moro, but I'll be up in about 8 hours, so I should be in time |
| 00:13.26 | Kirkburn | I mean, I'd upload now, but ... |
| 00:13.35 | Cairenn | go sleep |
| 00:13.35 | Miravlix | UI scrip sites crash on patch day |
| 00:13.45 | Kirkburn | Shall do :P Nighty night |
| 00:13.47 | Miravlix | So early uploading would reduce the load on them |
| 00:13.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | Why is the gnome doing the "Hail Hilter!" salute on the wow front page? |
| 00:14.08 | Cairenn | Miravlix: we usually manage to hang in there, just slow |
| 00:14.20 | Cairenn | Miravlix: Dolby is trying another tactic, see if it'll help |
| 00:14.23 | Miravlix | Because there is world is a bigger place where not everything is about nazism |
| 00:15.37 | Cairenn | if things go the way we hope, you won't see any slow down whatsoever tomorrow ... cross your fingers for us |
| 00:15.38 | Miravlix | The nazism symbol was stolen too and it's not really fair to ruin an ancient symbol just because some moron abuse it for a few years. |
| 00:16.12 | Cairenn | Miravlix: indeed, but the original the end bars face the other way, don't they? |
| 00:16.21 | Miravlix | No |
| 00:16.36 | Cairenn | couldn't remember for sure |
| 00:16.49 | Miravlix | We have some elephants with the Nazi symbol on them at the front gate of one of our old beer companies HQ's |
| 00:16.49 | Cairenn | but yeah, it's an ancient symbol for life |
| 00:17.06 | GenNMX|Thrae | I believe it's an ancient symbol for power, not life, but I'm not sure. |
| 00:17.30 | Miravlix | But it's not due to nazi stuff, but because it is an ancient symbol they though would be cool and it is fairly cool. |
| 00:17.39 | Cairenn | life, that's why Ukrainian easter eggs always used to incorporate it |
| 00:17.54 | Cairenn | or rather, frequently (not always) |
| 00:18.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | Power, because those easter eggs gave IMMENSE POWER! |
| 00:18.09 | Kirkburn | Before I go, the CMs are going mad ... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7641517 |
| 00:18.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:18.22 | GenNMX|Thrae | I mean, there's an easter egg in WoW which makes you immortal! |
| 00:18.30 | Kirkburn | Caydiems been shooting tomato sellers :s |
| 00:19.10 | Miravlix | *sighs* Blizzards release to test download isn't all that bright |
| 00:19.23 | Miravlix | it aborted after downloading the update because it found a wow.exe |
| 00:19.42 | Miravlix | And it saps what it just downloaded... |
| 00:20.06 | GenNMX|Thrae | *WARNING -- This is a cheat found in the popular game, World of Warcaft. Please do NOT read on unless you want to become IMMENSELY POWERFUL by using a hidden EASTER EGG found in this game.* |
| 00:20.08 | Iriel | Miravlix : The 5195 patch? or a new one? |
| 00:20.39 | Miravlix | They made a non incremental update, I'm trying to get running without erasing wowtest |
| 00:20.42 | Iriel | Miravlix : Because 5195 is a 'clean patch' against 9.1.4, not an update to test |
| 00:21.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | *The Cheat: Create a new Rogue, then level up to 60 without ever dying. Continue perfectly avoiding death while you go out on raids. After a while, you will become IMMORTAL, and you will find you NEVER DIE!* |
| 00:21.12 | Iriel | I dont think you can avoid erasing wowtest, why would you want to though? |
| 00:21.17 | Crispix | bull |
| 00:21.35 | Iriel | It's not bull |
| 00:21.41 | Iriel | If you never die, you are, essentially immortal |
| 00:21.49 | Miravlix | haha |
| 00:21.59 | Miravlix | Eyonix posted a first response to his own thread |
| 00:22.02 | Iriel | If you do die, then obviously you didn't "avoid death" long enough |
| 00:24.33 | Miravlix | Because I'm lazy and don't want to redo wtf and interface |
| 00:24.35 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=343497 |
| 00:25.01 | Miravlix | And I did avoid erasing wowtest. :p |
| 00:25.14 | Cairenn | so save those two out to your desktop, delete the folder, update, put the folders back |
| 00:25.19 | Cairenn | not like it's a big deal :p |
| 00:25.37 | Cairenn | Legorol: was that the update for EquipCompare for 1.10? |
| 00:25.50 | Miravlix | I just had to make sure every original wow file wasn't there anymore |
| 00:26.18 | Miravlix | Since it does a check of the file instead of just overwriting it. |
| 00:27.04 | Miravlix | Wouldn't take a programmer 0.002s to have added replace support into the patcher |
| 00:27.24 | Cairenn | ummm, Lego? |
| 00:27.33 | Cairenn | You didn't put them in a folder :p |
| 00:27.48 | Iriel | I suspect the error was deliberate Miravlix, to ensure you're patching against what you THINK you're patching. |
| 00:28.05 | Iriel | Though I agree it could explain the situation more thoroughly |
| 00:28.24 | Iriel | There's a chance that they'd changed the WDB file format or somesuch and want to ensure it gets removed too |
| 00:28.29 | Miravlix | Naah, just a bad patcher |
| 00:28.32 | Iriel | Lots of possibilities, Cairenn's suggestion is by far the sanest one |
| 00:29.05 | Miravlix | It's when programmers think they are smart enough to write things from the ground up they create crap and why Open Source Software code stealing rules. |
| 00:29.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 00:29.55 | Guillotine | staple-gun plz |
| 00:30.13 | Miravlix | ~staple Guillotine |
| 00:30.44 | Guillotine | Well, I am sad about this patch. After today, no more link spoofing :( |
| 00:30.53 | Miravlix | s/~stable/Purl stables/ |
| 00:31.10 | Miravlix | Hmm, purl hates me today. |
| 00:31.17 | Guillotine | purl, staple me |
| 00:31.23 | Guillotine | purl hates everyone today |
| 00:31.29 | Miravlix | Link spoofing was freaking lame anyway. |
| 00:31.37 | Cairenn | ~botsnack |
| 00:31.38 | purl | Cairenn: aw, gee |
| 00:31.39 | Miravlix | ~lart Guillotine |
| 00:32.08 | Guillotine | Cairenn: can I release the link spoofer on WoWI? |
| 00:32.09 | Miravlix | Purl has spoken and so shall it be! |
| 00:32.11 | Guillotine | since its fixed tomorow |
| 00:32.15 | Cairenn | Guillotine: no |
| 00:32.18 | Guillotine | awww |
| 00:32.20 | Guillotine | ok |
| 00:32.23 | ckknight | link spoofer? |
| 00:32.31 | Guillotine | me and kremonte made the ultimate link spoofer |
| 00:32.32 | Miravlix | How to create fake links |
| 00:32.38 | Guillotine | we can make links completely from scratch pretty much |
| 00:32.51 | Codayus | hmmm, 1.10 tomorrow? |
| 00:32.52 | Guillotine | edit stats, edit full names, edit colors, ect. |
| 00:32.53 | Miravlix | Anarchy Online has link spoofing as a feature |
| 00:32.58 | ckknight | right, Corrodias |
| 00:33.01 | ckknight | Codayus* |
| 00:33.43 | Codayus | ? |
| 00:33.49 | Codayus | oh |
| 00:34.00 | Miravlix | And it would be darn nice if we could create [GuildXYz is recruiting click me for details] |
| 00:34.07 | Codayus | hmm, cool |
| 00:34.11 | ckknight | that would be really cool to do |
| 00:34.24 | Guillotine | theres some addons that let you do that, but both people need the addon |
| 00:34.28 | Miravlix | But since they forgot to put in protection of item links, they are fixing it by removing false link all together |
| 00:34.35 | cladhaire | Miravlix: THer'es oe that does that for enchanting links. |
| 00:34.40 | cladhaire | it works quite well |
| 00:35.11 | cladhaire | no reason why the same couldn't work for guilds. |
| 00:35.20 | Codayus | Oblivion has totally distracted me from all things WoW. :-/ |
| 00:35.22 | Miravlix | Yeah, but there is a hell of a difference between server suported player made links and an addon doing it. :/ |
| 00:35.42 | Codayus | and yeah, being able to make custom ads would be very nice... (as in AO) |
| 00:35.47 | cladhaire | no, because the peopel whoa re stupid enough to spam wouldn't make their own links, and you know that =) |
| 00:35.54 | Codayus | guild recruitment, lfm spam, etc. |
| 00:35.57 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:35.59 | cladhaire | it would be nice tho |
| 00:36.00 | Iriel | Oblivion is an evil addiction I must resist. |
| 00:36.40 | ckknight | runs too slow on my comp, so it's pretty easy for me to resist |
| 00:36.47 | Codayus | Iriel: The game seems to be exactly what I hoped. My attempts to resist appear tobe futile. |
| 00:36.56 | Iriel | I picked up the 360 version, which ironically I find easier to play than the PC one. |
| 00:37.13 | Codayus | I upgraded my computer...JUST to play Oblivion. I a hopeless addict. |
| 00:37.16 | Iriel | It's superb, but also something I have to ration. |
| 00:37.24 | Codayus | yeah |
| 00:37.26 | Corrodias | apparently i have to play Oblivion, eventually |
| 00:37.35 | Corrodias | is it moddable like Morrowind? |
| 00:37.39 | Codayus | I've got classes, projects, things to do...like sleep. |
| 00:37.50 | Codayus | Corrodias: identically so, it seems |
| 00:38.16 | Codayus | if you liked morrowind, you should like oblivion. if you didn't, you probably won't. |
| 00:38.50 | Corrodias | i liked it enough to play it three times with the same character and never even start the main story quests |
| 00:39.23 | Codayus | I played for months....I started the main quest once |
| 00:39.26 | Iriel | Starting the main story quest gets you a horse early on in Oblivion 8-) |
| 00:39.30 | Codayus | I got distracted o |
| 00:39.39 | Codayus | immediatly afterwards |
| 00:39.43 | Iriel | I haven't gotten any further in that quest though |
| 00:39.59 | Cairenn | JoshBorke: healwatch 1.10 compatible? |
| 00:40.06 | Corrodias | the only "annoying" thing about morrowind is that going off the "main story path" may cause you to kill characters important to non-vital quests you don't have yet |
| 00:40.16 | Codayus | ya |
| 00:40.39 | Corrodias | rather, i should have said that -one- annoying thing, not the -only- annoying thing |
| 00:40.49 | Corrodias | i haven't bothered to think about what else may have been annoying |
| 00:41.35 | GenNMX|Thrae | Corrodias: BethSoft left the debug console open to use for stuff like that. You can use the console to spawn NPCs, monsters, all kinds of nice cheats. |
| 00:42.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | But if you just want to "reset" the game back to a point without restarting from start, you can do that. |
| 00:42.15 | Corrodias | yes, you could fix your mistakes.. good point, i had forgotten |
| 00:42.26 | Miravlix | Irie: Whats the url to your 1.10 changes list? |
| 00:44.13 | Corrodias | the range of mods available for morrowind was VERY nice. however, the duplication bug constantly threatened to ruin your fun if you kept changing your mods |
| 00:46.13 | Corrodias | you could have ten doors in one place. or a hundred animals! woo! |
| 00:51.39 | ckknight | hey, is Honored the only faction-related time that the price of goods changes, or getting to a higher status lower the price moreso? |
| 00:52.58 | Iriel | Miravlix : This one? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=286547&p=1&tmp=1#post286547 |
| 00:53.36 | Iriel | Miravlix : Or this one? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=342347&p=1&tmp=1#post342347 |
| 00:56.01 | Cairenn | Iriel: *snicker* |
| 00:56.25 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 00:56.29 | Iriel | It's hard to do with the forums so slow |
| 00:56.34 | Cairenn | check it ;) |
| 00:56.46 | Iriel | I saw |
| 00:57.01 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 00:57.07 | Iriel | At least you didn't deny it. |
| 00:57.13 | Tem | Iriel: are you aware of an easy way to get the content type for a given address in Java (so I can skip documents that are not html) |
| 00:57.15 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:57.44 | Iriel | Tem: use the full URLConnection api and check the content type header |
| 00:58.34 | Tem | thanks, that looks like it will be exactly what I need |
| 01:02.04 | Tem | it's spitting out null every time |
| 01:02.24 | Tem | well that sucks |
| 01:04.30 | Iriel | Tem: Sadly that's what often happens |
| 01:04.35 | Iriel | Tem: There's a class that can 'guess' for you |
| 01:04.48 | Iriel | Tem: I forget what it's called though, let me see if I can find it |
| 01:04.56 | Tem | I was calling getContentEncoding |
| 01:05.01 | Tem | which was returning null every time |
| 01:05.10 | Tem | but calling getContentType seems to work fine |
| 01:05.17 | ckknight | can anyone tell me if you get cheaper prices after Honored? |
| 01:05.24 | Tem | ckknight: no, you don't |
| 01:05.33 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:05.33 | ckknight | thanks |
| 01:05.35 | Tem | ckknight: there are 2 discounts in game |
| 01:05.39 | Tem | #1 Honored |
| 01:05.46 | ckknight | and Sergeant, gotcha |
| 01:05.48 | Tem | #2 PVP Rank 3 or above |
| 01:06.18 | ckknight | I'm adding the cost reduction bit to BossPanel - Durability |
| 01:06.53 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@proxy-ce1.disney.com) |
| 01:06.55 | Iriel | Tem: There's a guessContentTypeFromNAme |
| 01:07.02 | Tem | Iriel: don't worry about the guessing class. I'll include in my notes that if the URLConnection does not return text/html for getContentType I ignore the page and they won't be too bad |
| 01:07.04 | Iriel | Tem: Oh, getContentEncoding is entirely different 8-) |
| 01:07.20 | Tem | Iriel: yeah, it was a momentary brain fart |
| 01:07.28 | Iriel | Tem: And getContentTypeFromStream() also |
| 01:07.34 | Iriel | Tem: Both static methods on URLConnection |
| 01:07.46 | Iriel | Tem: sorry, guess, not get, on that last one |
| 01:07.48 | Tem | guess it doesn't hurt to be more thorough |
| 01:11.30 | Miravlix | Anyone have a list of whats in WorldFrame? |
| 01:13.00 | Iriel | "In WorldFrame" ? |
| 01:13.31 | Miravlix | Yeah printing is just give userdata |
| 01:15.24 | Iriel | It doesn't have anything 'in' it |
| 01:15.29 | Iriel | Do you what a method list? |
| 01:15.31 | Iriel | Or what? |
| 01:21.28 | Crispix | LMFAO!!! |
| 01:21.42 | Crispix | I just got denied a group because someone thought Hunters weren't DPS units |
| 01:22.14 | Iriel | Dont hunters simply sit at the back and let their pet do all the work, then roll on all the items? |
| 01:22.33 | cladhaire | Iriel: Can you think of any inventive method to trigger a cooldown check other than hooking the UseItem functions, and monitoring SPELLCAST_STOP? |
| 01:22.51 | Corrodias | heh heh.. i like how guild wars' last couple of missions are actually easier to do with henchmen than with other players |
| 01:23.13 | Corrodias | at least, they were back when i played, possibly due to a slight lack of people hanging around those levels |
| 01:25.24 | Iriel | cladhaire : Hm, you mean to see when cooldown might begin? |
| 01:26.10 | Iriel | cladhaire : What about ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_COOLDOWN ? |
| 01:27.08 | Iriel | cladhaire : I'm not sure when that fires exactly, but it sounds like a decent one |
| 01:30.29 | Guillotine | ohnoes! cairenn posted in all caps! bad Cairenn! |
| 01:30.39 | Cairenn | I did it on purpose :p |
| 01:30.50 | ckknight | ? |
| 01:30.53 | ckknight | where? |
| 01:30.57 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343510&p=1&tmp=1#post343510 |
| 01:31.00 | Guillotine | but isn't that a direct violation of the forum rules? |
| 01:31.02 | ckknight | ah |
| 01:31.08 | Cairenn | yeah yeah |
| 01:31.15 | Cairenn | but think maybe they might read it? |
| 01:31.24 | Crispix | wow... I can't get a group because people think that hunters aren't DPS :| |
| 01:31.37 | cladhaire | Iriel: *smack*, yeah that should work =) |
| 01:31.41 | Crispix | Are they really this frigging stupid on this server -_- |
| 01:31.49 | Guillotine | hunters aren't dps |
| 01:31.51 | Guillotine | their cannon fodder |
| 01:31.54 | Corrodias | patch day? what, is 1.11 out? |
| 01:31.55 | Guillotine | they're* |
| 01:32.00 | Guillotine | 1.10 is out tomorow |
| 01:32.07 | Corrodias | i thoguht they already had 1.10 |
| 01:32.21 | Guillotine | on the test server |
| 01:32.34 | Corrodias | damn that's slow |
| 01:32.54 | Guillotine | its a pretty dang big patch |
| 01:33.09 | ckknight | Cairenn, technically, BossPanel isn't fully updated for 1.10 |
| 01:33.21 | cladhaire | WatchDog is, FIRST =) |
| 01:33.24 | Cairenn | fine, I'll take it off the list then :p |
| 01:33.38 | Cairenn | cladhaire: watchdog is? |
| 01:33.48 | ckknight | whatever, I'm updating as soon as the server goes down anyway |
| 01:34.01 | ckknight | the .toc is still 10900, is all |
| 01:34.07 | Cairenn | gotcha |
| 01:34.35 | ckknight | the only change will be to remove old code and change the toc |
| 01:34.56 | cladhaire | Cairenn: Yeah, I released the last version with 11000 =) |
| 01:35.14 | Cairenn | Guillotine: take your response off, I fixed it :p |
| 01:35.18 | Cairenn | sheesh |
| 01:35.25 | Tem | so, did we get confirmation that tomorrow is patch day? |
| 01:35.28 | Cairenn | yes |
| 01:35.32 | Tem | oh hell |
| 01:35.36 | Cairenn | all over the place |
| 01:35.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine_ (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 01:35.56 | Cairenn | (yes, that was me telling you I got it privately confirmed as well :p ) |
| 01:37.05 | Tem | Cairenn: can you do me a huge favor? |
| 01:37.16 | Cairenn | possibly |
| 01:37.23 | Tem | -> PM |
| 01:45.22 | Crispix | Can someone please tell me which direction I need to head to get to Scarlet Monistary? I'm in Loch Modan |
| 01:46.29 | Cairenn | Crispix: http://wow.allakhazam.com/ |
| 01:46.41 | Osagasu | whee, patch day |
| 01:46.50 | Osagasu | tomorrow at least |
| 01:46.55 | Crispix | I go there all the time, but I don't know how to use it for directions |
| 01:50.07 | Iriel | Crispix : Get to southshore then head west into silverpine, north through silverpine, then head to the NE corner of T glades |
| 01:52.01 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Tem@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 01:52.33 | Tem | my link scanner hangs if it finds a link in the form <A href=......"> |
| 01:52.47 | Tem | (ie quote on one end and no quote on the other |
| 01:52.48 | Tem | ) |
| 01:56.56 | Osagasu | oh no, Cay is getting reassigned away from the forums |
| 01:56.58 | Osagasu | *sobs* |
| 01:58.09 | Tem | hmm |
| 01:58.24 | Tem | does anyone know if the href attribute can have spaces in it if it's enclosed in quotes? |
| 01:58.31 | Iriel | Yes it ican |
| 01:58.39 | Iriel | If it opens with a quote, you go until you see the next quote |
| 01:58.53 | Iriel | See w3.org for the 'official' spec, it answers all of your questions |
| 01:58.59 | Tem | grr! |
| 01:59.12 | Iriel | http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/ |
| 01:59.15 | Tem | so what the hell do I do with stuff that doesn't open with a quote but ends with a quote? |
| 02:01.34 | Iriel | Tem: Specifically: 3.2.2 Attributes |
| 02:01.43 | Iriel | Tem: Err, I think the close quote is technically part of the data |
| 02:02.04 | Iriel | Actually no, that's just invalid HTML |
| 02:02.15 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.25 | Tem | browsers are too damn tolerant |
| 02:03.09 | Iriel | I would say you should ignore the trailing " |
| 02:03.20 | Tem | yeah, that's what I'm doing |
| 02:03.33 | Tem | but I've got some code that's blocking and I can't seem to figure out which |
| 02:04.32 | Iriel | Is it getting caught trying to parse " as an attribute + value? |
| 02:04.40 | Iriel | You'll want to ignore, but 'consume' the " |
| 02:05.08 | Tem | well.... |
| 02:05.12 | Tem | here's my deal |
| 02:05.38 | Iriel | I'd read this: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgmltut.html and then implement something 'forgiving' (i.e. discard stuff that doesn't match) implementation. |
| 02:05.39 | Tem | I've got a while loop that's running until matcher.find() returns false |
| 02:06.44 | Tem | can matcher.find() block? |
| 02:06.53 | Tem | that seems to be where it's hanging |
| 02:08.00 | Iriel | I dont belive so |
| 02:08.03 | Legorol | uh oh, help! |
| 02:08.08 | Legorol | i just got the following Lua script error: |
| 02:08.09 | Legorol | Error: [string "compat.lua"]:20: bad argument #1 to `rad' (number expected, got nil) |
| 02:08.10 | Iriel | Assuming it's a java.util.regex.Matcher; |
| 02:08.20 | Legorol | i'm befuddled |
| 02:08.22 | Tem | Iriel: yes that's the class |
| 02:08.26 | Iriel | Legorol: It means you called one of the trig functions (not inside math) with a nil value |
| 02:08.32 | Iriel | Legorol |
| 02:08.37 | Iriel | Look for a call to sin, cos, or tan |
| 02:08.45 | Legorol | oh ok, cool |
| 02:08.54 | Iriel | cos, in fact |
| 02:08.57 | Legorol | that'd explain it |
| 02:09.01 | Iriel | Assuming blizzard didn't change compat.lua |
| 02:09.04 | Legorol | cause i do not call rad explicitly |
| 02:09.10 | Iriel | though you shouldn't call "cos" |
| 02:09.11 | Legorol | afaik compat.lua is now absorbed in the client |
| 02:09.14 | Iriel | You should call "math.cos" |
| 02:09.26 | GenNMX|Thrae | Did someone here get on my Teamspeak server earlier? |
| 02:09.32 | Legorol | it doesn't exist as a Lua file in FrameXML any more |
| 02:09.34 | Iriel | bear in mind however that math.cos takes radians, and cos takes degrees. |
| 02:09.43 | Iriel | Indeed, I have a copy from when it did, line 20 is: |
| 02:09.44 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.51 | Legorol | ah, that'd explain the reason for the need for a call to rad |
| 02:09.57 | Legorol | that's just nasty.. |
| 02:09.59 | Legorol | ok thanks Iriel |
| 02:10.33 | Iriel | 36 is sin, and 38 is tan, by the way 8-) |
| 02:10.35 | GenNMX|Thrae | I mean come on, sure I didn't password protect it, but saying stuff "Are you naked?" is not right with an 8-year old on the server |
| 02:11.21 | Legorol | was it a woman at least? |
| 02:11.39 | GenNMX|Thrae | No, I think it was someone around 18-21 |
| 02:11.47 | GenNMX|Thrae | s/18-21/15-21 |
| 02:12.21 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.55 | GenNMX|Thrae | Can't use the trailing slash, Tem, or else purl would get involved |
| 02:13.13 | Tem | oh you don't want purl to do it? |
| 02:14.00 | Tem | so, Iriel, java.util.regex.Matcher.find can or can't block? The documentation is unclear to me |
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| 02:15.12 | Iriel | I dont see how it could block |
| 02:15.31 | Iriel | it's not going to be waiting for anything |
| 02:15.54 | Tem | I'm baffled then |
| 02:16.52 | Iriel | It's far more likely you're stuck inside the loop elsewhere, or shortly after it |
| 02:16.59 | Iriel | though I haven't seen your code 8-) |
| 02:17.00 | Iriel | So who knows |
| 02:17.21 | Tem | I've got System.out.println's all over the place inside |
| 02:17.33 | Crispix | Erm... Could someone tell me, from southshore, where I need to head to SM? |
| 02:17.43 | Tem | and it's getting to the end of the while loop, but it's never getting back inside it or out to after it |
| 02:17.58 | Legorol | Crispix: you have to head west into Silverpine Forest |
| 02:18.01 | Wobin_Sleep | Crispix: Head west from SS to the next zone |
| 02:18.01 | Iriel | Crispix : Easiest way is head West and follow the road as it goes west, turns north, then turns east again |
| 02:18.09 | Crispix | west? Ta :) |
| 02:18.13 | Wobin_Sleep | Then north, into Tirisifal |
| 02:18.20 | Wobin_Sleep | Then west past Undercity |
| 02:18.26 | Wobin_Sleep | (Or the ruins of Lorderaon) |
| 02:18.36 | Iriel | Crispix : West into Silverpine, North to the top of silverpine, then North EAST past the undercity to the monastery |
| 02:18.38 | Crispix | west, north, west... eh? |
| 02:18.42 | Wobin_Sleep | Don't follow the road exactly past UC |
| 02:18.44 | Iriel | West, North, EAST |
| 02:18.48 | Iriel | Ignore Wobin_Sleep 8-) |
| 02:18.48 | Wobin_Sleep | (Oh yeah, east =)) |
| 02:18.49 | Crispix | k |
| 02:19.05 | Wobin_Sleep | head a bit north off the road, otherwise you'll run into horde npcs |
| 02:19.31 | Crispix | :o |
| 02:19.40 | Wobin_Sleep | You should hit a path eventually which will lead you into the northeastern quadrant of the map where SM lies |
| 02:19.55 | Wobin_Sleep | Tirisifal is the newbie undead horde area =) |
| 02:20.41 | Tem | Iriel: http://pastebin.com/626248 |
| 02:21.10 | Tem | Iriel: that works for most pages, but it's hanging on this link: |
| 02:21.27 | Crispix | east of Hillsbrad? |
| 02:21.58 | Tem | http://pastebin.com/626250 |
| 02:22.30 | Tem | it's finding the "http://mspls.cs.depaul.edu/sched.html" link and hanging when trying to find the next |
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| 02:22.42 | Iriel | Tem: What's the last line it outputs? |
| 02:22.50 | Tem | "end while" |
| 02:23.15 | Crispix | oooh. Silver pine...scurry |
| 02:23.16 | Tem | (preceded by "link: http://mspls.cs.depaul.edu/sched.htm") |
| 02:24.53 | Iriel | Tem: You do know that <a href = "/stuff.htm"> is valid, right? (not related to your problem, but...) |
| 02:25.05 | Tem | it is? |
| 02:25.12 | Crispix | erm |
| 02:25.16 | Crispix | Ok.. can someone help now? |
| 02:25.21 | Wobin_ | North |
| 02:25.25 | Crispix | Am I going the right direction? |
| 02:25.29 | Wobin_ | past the lake |
| 02:25.31 | Crispix | Tirisfal is to the north |
| 02:25.34 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 02:25.40 | Crispix | k.. so head north? |
| 02:25.41 | Wobin_ | SM is in Tirisifal |
| 02:25.51 | Crispix | thx :D |
| 02:26.14 | Wobin_ | That's 'up' on the map =) |
| 02:26.33 | Crispix | duh :P |
| 02:27.16 | Tem | Iriel: not that big of a dea though. I can add "\\s*" on each side of the = |
| 02:29.24 | Iriel | Tem: You may as well at least validate your sanity with http://pastebin.com/626257 |
| 02:29.28 | Iriel | Just to see what you get |
| 02:29.43 | Iriel | Personally I prefer System.err for diagnostics |
| 02:30.23 | Crispix | how lame do you have to be to attack someone who doesn't attack you in the ifrst place :| |
| 02:31.02 | Iriel | Depends what level they are |
| 02:31.03 | Tem | aha |
| 02:31.10 | Tem | Iriel: it's definately hanging on the find |
| 02:31.28 | Iriel | Tem: Okay, one more thing to add |
| 02:31.46 | Crispix | 50 attacking a 30 :/ |
| 02:31.51 | Crispix | er.. a 34 |
| 02:32.16 | Wobin_ | You have (get) NO HONOUR! |
| 02:32.43 | Tem | lol @ funny english spellings of words |
| 02:33.00 | Iriel | Tem: Ignore the wacky indentation, but http://pastebin.com/626260 |
| 02:34.09 | Wobin_ | Lazy americans =P |
| 02:34.23 | Tem | Iriel: no change |
| 02:34.34 | Iriel | Oh, never mind, it's your pattern |
| 02:34.36 | Iriel | http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4771934 |
| 02:35.51 | Tem | d'oh! |
| 02:36.13 | Crispix | hrm.. at the ruins of lordaeron now |
| 02:36.44 | Tem | that's UC |
| 02:36.50 | Crispix | did I go too far north? |
| 02:37.25 | Iriel | No, you're in the right direction, SM is NE of there |
| 02:40.28 | Wobin_ | keep at it =) |
| 02:43.26 | Crispix | I'm in Brill |
| 02:44.09 | Crispix | hey.. look at that... a lake.. :O |
| 02:45.20 | Wobin_ | ne of the lake there |
| 02:45.39 | Wobin_ | should be a path nearby you can follow\ |
| 02:45.59 | Crispix | I'm tristfal glades |
| 02:46.09 | Crispix | now at the north coast |
| 02:46.21 | Wobin_ | hm, east |
| 02:46.23 | Iriel | Then go East |
| 02:46.39 | Wobin_ | yes. East =) |
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| 02:48.22 | Crispix | Scarlet Watchpost./ |
| 02:48.35 | Wobin_ | east |
| 02:48.37 | Wobin_ | ish |
| 02:48.40 | Crispix | loost like I'm nearing it |
| 02:48.42 | Wobin_ | maybe a little south to get on the path |
| 02:48.46 | Iriel | Keep going east (dip south around the hill) |
| 02:49.56 | Crispix | im at some kinda big ... castle thing |
| 02:50.15 | Wobin_ | That's it... isn't it? |
| 02:50.20 | Crispix | dunno |
| 02:50.24 | Wobin_ | no wait, northesterly more |
| 02:50.27 | Crispix | there are a whole buncha level 11s around |
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| 02:50.34 | Wobin_ | is it a ruined castley thing? |
| 02:50.40 | Crispix | yeh |
| 02:50.40 | Wobin_ | up north? |
| 02:50.47 | Crispix | yeah |
| 02:50.49 | Wobin_ | follow the path south |
| 02:50.54 | Wobin_ | then turn east at the turnoff |
| 02:51.00 | Crispix | k |
| 02:52.57 | Crispix | YAY |
| 02:52.59 | Crispix | I found it |
| 02:53.49 | Wobin_ | woohoo! |
| 02:53.52 | Wobin_ | happy killing =) |
| 02:56.35 | Iriel | *? is lua's - |
| 02:57.01 | Wobin_ | shenme? |
| 02:57.07 | ckknight | *The more you know* |
| 03:01.32 | Wobin_ | http://www.koreus.com/media/iron-chef-america.html |
| 03:01.39 | Wobin_ | Would be better if it didn't take so long to load |
| 03:01.48 | Wobin_ | but hey... IRON CHEF ONLINE |
| 03:05.24 | ckknight | I have a fast connection :-P |
| 03:06.33 | Wobin_ | I hates the precious =) |
| 03:07.13 | ckknight | I can't move fast enough to catch the damn ingredients |
| 03:07.34 | Wobin_ | From the looks of it, moving diagonally is faster than normal |
| 03:09.59 | Cairenn | later Iriel :) |
| 03:10.18 | Wobin_ | My problem with the speed of the download is that it downloads the game every time you play it again =( |
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| 03:14.07 | ckknight | diagonally you mean through the sides of the tiles or through the corners of the tiles? |
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| 03:14.45 | Wobin_ | um. not having the screen up at the moment, I'd say hitting up and left at the same time etc |
| 03:15.23 | fiscus | i was wondering if someone could help me, basically i want to be able to trigger an event (in my case to join a channel) based on the time - whats the easiest way to do this? |
| 03:17.13 | ckknight | essentially you'd have an OnUpdate function, throttled, then check the time every now and again |
| 03:17.36 | fiscus | i'm totally new to this - but i'm trying hard |
| 03:17.45 | fiscus | basically i found this addon http://www.shiftmanager.net/~kurt/WoW/BedTime/ |
| 03:18.04 | fiscus | that i thought would be the best to try and modify (cause i had no idea where to start from scratch) |
| 03:19.46 | Wobin_ | hrm, could you have a timex run that does the check of time, rather than on an event? |
| 03:35.35 | clad|sleep | Night all! |
| 03:38.32 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep |
| 03:41.41 | Crispix | wwBwhwhwhahahaha...... |
| 03:41.59 | Crispix | I just sold a pattern for truefaith gloves for 8 gold 20 silver :D |
| 03:57.32 | Crispix | intelect is mana .. isn't it? |
| 04:01.02 | ckknight | essentially |
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| 04:03.04 | Crispix | awgh. |
| 04:03.16 | Crispix | I hate it when an item I really ... really.. really need.. doesn't have a buy out price :| |
| 04:03.27 | ckknight | lol |
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| 04:04.19 | Cairenn | hey Inokis :) |
| 04:04.26 | Inokis | got my pm yesterday? |
| 04:04.38 | Cairenn | nope |
| 04:04.46 | Cairenn | you registered? |
| 04:04.47 | Inokis | that blows. |
| 04:04.53 | Inokis | registered as in? |
| 04:05.04 | Gryphen | with the irc server |
| 04:05.13 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.20 | Crispix | hey .. can someone do me a favor? |
| 04:05.22 | Cairenn | you have to be registered for PMs to go thruogh |
| 04:05.31 | Inokis | that would explain that. |
| 04:05.39 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 04:05.42 | Crispix | Give me an opinion as to whats better for a 34 hunter... Swampwalker boots or Acidic Walkers.... |
| 04:06.36 | Inokis | at any rate basically i was just giving you a heads up that i've canx wow for a bit again, I'm gonna try sony's 21.99 program for all their games since i've played several across the years and this allows more gametime over various games for a cheaper amt. |
| 04:06.39 | Crispix | Acidic walkers have more stats... but.. Swampwalker has more armor and more agility... |
| 04:06.57 | Cairenn | *nod* understandable Inny |
| 04:07.14 | L|Elviso | anyone know of a macro or simple addon to simply take all durability items off? |
| 04:07.34 | L|Elviso | macro would be best but the only macro site i know isn't online anymore |
| 04:07.46 | Inokis | i'm gonna send you a copy of a pm i sent dolby, through the wow boards. fyi. |
| 04:07.52 | Cairenn | okay |
| 04:08.14 | Inokis | its unrelated to this just something about yesterday :) |
| 04:08.21 | Cairenn | okay |
| 04:08.40 | Crispix | Cairenn.. |
| 04:08.43 | Crispix | can you help me decide? |
| 04:08.47 | Cairenn | nope |
| 04:08.52 | Crispix | please? |
| 04:09.49 | Cairenn | without knowing what all your stats are, without knowing your play style, without knowing where you've put your talent points, without knowing if you group or solo, what you've got for a pet, whether you pvp or pve, etc etc etc ... I can't make any recommendations |
| 04:10.11 | Cairenn | and I am so busy trying to get ready for the upcoming onslaught, I can barely think straight right now |
| 04:10.16 | Cairenn | major case of tunnel vision |
| 04:10.48 | Wobin_ | Crispix: Ag |
| 04:15.23 | Cairenn | sorry Crispix, I'm not trying to blow you off or anything |
| 04:16.23 | Inokis | Crispix go armor and agi, as a hunter damage is everything |
| 04:17.41 | Inokis | Cairenn I have a solution to your problem |
| 04:17.48 | Legorol | hello folks |
| 04:17.52 | Cairenn | hey Legorol |
| 04:17.53 | Legorol | has there been a change to buffs in 1.10? |
| 04:17.59 | Cairenn | Inokis: ? |
| 04:18.03 | Legorol | we are having some problem with some addons that read buff texts |
| 04:18.13 | Inokis | yep, the onslaught problem you mentioned, i have a solution |
| 04:18.24 | Cairenn | lol, run and hide? |
| 04:18.32 | Inokis | turn off the server :) |
| 04:18.41 | Cairenn | bite your tongue! |
| 04:19.04 | Cairenn | lol, Dolby suggested he'd do that while I'm at my appointment tomorrow afternoon, just so I don't miss anything :p |
| 04:19.06 | Inokis | i didn't say its a good one, just effective |
| 04:19.24 | Inokis | oh nice. |
| 04:19.26 | Cairenn | Legorol: no idea |
| 04:19.43 | Legorol | nothing in Iriel's thread :/ |
| 04:19.50 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 04:19.57 | Cairenn | you check the "actual api"? |
| 04:20.11 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=4176 |
| 04:20.14 | Inokis | that would actually make it worse, because then everyone would be trying to log in at once, couldn't so they sit there pinging the address 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times/sec til it is up then you get the brunt and the server may actually crash from the load |
| 04:20.41 | Cairenn | or check WDN? |
| 04:21.02 | Cairenn | Inokis: heh |
| 04:21.17 | Inokis | i'm gonna send him a petition so that he knows how much I care about you not missing a beat |
| 04:21.33 | Cairenn | don't you dare :p |
| 04:21.44 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:21.53 | Inokis | Have in post it in the Wow News, Petition to Drive Cairenn nuts, sign here, the more sigs the better |
| 04:22.11 | Cairenn | ~lart Inokis |
| 04:22.22 | Inokis | ouch |
| 04:23.40 | Inokis | did i tell you the good news yet? |
| 04:23.48 | Cairenn | dunno, did you? |
| 04:24.07 | Inokis | remember the crapola job I had to take to get my ass a paycheck? |
| 04:24.26 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 04:24.54 | Inokis | its now out of buisiness and we're hung out to dry in two months...so i'll be in the same boat i was in nov |
| 04:25.07 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 04:25.13 | Inokis | I'm cursed |
| 04:25.53 | Crispix | 1.10 is tomorrow eh? |
| 04:26.01 | Cairenn | yes |
| 04:26.05 | Inokis | oh joy |
| 04:26.07 | Crispix | Hrm. |
| 04:26.16 | Crispix | I'd better prep the tears for when my UI explodes |
| 04:26.26 | Inokis | i love it how anytime theres a patch the servers are never stabilized again til fri |
| 04:27.31 | Inokis | I don't know how you guys do the crap you do, I can barely code what i've figured out, let alone anything more advanced |
| 04:28.40 | Inokis | I'm about as programmably endowed as a 3 month old |
| 04:30.54 | Crispix | Yay! With my new boots I got +3% chance to critical :D |
| 04:30.59 | Inokis | nice |
| 04:31.03 | Inokis | took the agi |
| 04:31.06 | Crispix | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049 |
| 04:31.21 | Crispix | new boots and new belt.. |
| 04:31.33 | zeeg2 | http://dumbniggers.com/images/nerd.jpg |
| 04:31.43 | zeeg2 | haha |
| 04:31.46 | Inokis | what kind of pet do you use |
| 04:32.02 | Crispix | Bear |
| 04:32.14 | Crispix | I <3 Milk .. my white polar bear |
| 04:32.30 | Corrodias | and my hunter had/has a black bear. woof. |
| 04:32.34 | Inokis | i was lvling up a boar i nabbed from razorfen kraul but at 57 its tough raising a 27 at tame |
| 04:33.00 | Inokis | should have thought of it earlier |
| 04:33.54 | Inokis | aside from that I was using humar the pridelord, and was going to tame a scorpid for party/raid for the poison stack and ditch the kitty for the boar, and just have the boar/scorpid combo |
| 04:34.16 | zeeg2 | baahaha |
| 04:34.16 | zeeg2 | http://dumbniggers.com/images/opensource1.gif |
| 04:34.17 | zeeg2 | best one |
| 04:36.52 | Cairenn | zeeg2: please stop linking to that site, the name is completely and utterly offensive |
| 04:37.13 | Inokis | i was going to say something however i'm not a mod |
| 04:37.24 | Wobin_ | Inokis: Feh, I tamed broken tooth at 60, and still haven't bothered leveling the poor bugger up |
| 04:37.37 | ckknight | I'm gonna agree with Cairenn on that one |
| 04:38.07 | Inokis | thats as bad as the username that got by unchecked for a week til i caught the bastard logging in |
| 04:38.15 | zeeg2 | the site is funy though |
| 04:38.20 | Cairenn | I don't care |
| 04:38.26 | Cairenn | stop linking to it |
| 04:38.42 | Cairenn | do whatever the heck you want somewhere else, but not in my channel |
| 04:38.51 | Inokis | hammertime, say it Cair, "can't touch this |
| 04:39.08 | Wobin_ | diu doo doo doo.. doo. Doo. |
| 04:39.24 | Inokis | i thought it was doo be, doobie-doo |
| 04:39.42 | Inokis | the penguin thing |
| 04:40.28 | Wobin_ | Oh, I was doing that instrumental riff just before the line "Can't touch this" |
| 04:40.56 | Inokis | ohh doh, i'm retarded sometimes forgive my lack of "catching on" |
| 04:44.42 | Inokis | so has anyone ever really danced with the devil by the pale moonlight, I've yet to know anyone that has? |
| 04:45.17 | Crispix | Blizzards gotta be getting bored.. |
| 04:45.19 | Crispix | http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/races/dancing.html |
| 04:45.24 | Crispix | they're making pages for dancing |
| 04:45.34 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:45.35 | Inokis | oh, way to avoid the important questions there crisp |
| 04:46.24 | Inokis | heres a question for you Crispix, are you crispy times two after meeting a dragon? |
| 04:46.50 | Crispix | ...hrm..... |
| 04:47.05 | Crispix | I guess this group will have to see after I meet Onixya for the first time |
| 04:47.11 | Inokis | lol |
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| 04:48.06 | Inokis | Theres this sticker i saw, "I do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you taste better crispy with ketchup." |
| 04:48.40 | Wobin_ | Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for you will become soggy, and hard to light =P |
| 04:48.47 | Inokis | lol |
| 04:50.03 | Inokis | how much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? I've yet to get an answer, some ppl say none, some say 3, but i've yet to see a valid equation. |
| 04:50.59 | Cairenn | a woodchuck would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood |
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| 04:51.40 | Cairenn | wb Iriel |
| 04:51.45 | Inokis | you're just adding a loop to the value there cair, that doesn't solve it |
| 04:51.57 | Iriel | Hello again! |
| 04:53.05 | Inokis | Thats like putting a call to your onload in your onupdate,creating a perpetual loop and then your game crashes |
| 04:53.52 | Inokis | you're gonna make the woodchuck explode that way |
| 04:54.10 | Cairenn | cool, after dinner entertainment! |
| 04:54.13 | Crispix | Time for me to goto bed... NN ALL! :D |
| 04:54.19 | Cairenn | night Crispix |
| 04:54.27 | Inokis | or a way to get dinner, depending you your lifestyle |
| 04:56.02 | Inokis | man my double nouns are sucking today that was supposed to be on our lifestyle |
| 04:56.14 | Inokis | "your" |
| 04:56.20 | Inokis | man, i suck |
| 04:56.32 | Cairenn | Inokis, sweety ... just stop |
| 04:56.39 | Cairenn | you're hurting yourself, trying to think and all ... |
| 04:56.46 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:56.47 | Inokis | oh man, you caught me |
| 04:56.52 | Wobin_ | phew |
| 04:57.16 | Inokis | maybe thats why i've got swollen eardrums, the smoke is about to blow |
| 04:57.50 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 04:57.58 | Iriel | Time to see how many addons explode! |
| 04:58.09 | Inokis | you know its gonna be nuts, |
| 04:58.24 | Cairenn | besplosions alllllll over da place! |
| 04:58.34 | Cairenn | Tem: you around still? |
| 04:58.40 | Tem | yeah |
| 04:58.42 | Inokis | so whats going on with vg? is it released? |
| 04:58.47 | Cairenn | Inokis: not yet |
| 04:59.13 | Inokis | I was gonna do rfonline but its all pvp based, yuck |
| 04:59.37 | Inokis | its a capture the flag type of game, not my thing |
| 05:00.08 | Inokis | its basically like the battlegrounds but thats what the whole game consists of |
| 05:00.50 | Inokis | guild x raids guild y to capture their tower, gain favor with the guard of something to gain control of the world |
| 05:03.25 | Inokis | does anyone else but me turn off game music and turn on a lin in source mp3 player? |
| 05:03.35 | Inokis | Line |
| 05:03.53 | ckknight | I play winamp in the background |
| 05:04.24 | Inokis | i don't like music to use resources thats why i prefer the lin in method, plus line in has a sep reverb channel |
| 05:04.45 | Iriel | Inokis : I imagine it's just a matter of tweaking your soundcard's mixer before you enter the game |
| 05:04.47 | Inokis | so the game can have eax while line in wont |
| 05:04.53 | Iriel | Inokis : though I haven't tried it |
| 05:05.06 | Inokis | i do that, set the eax to null on line in |
| 05:05.22 | Inokis | but if you are using wav then it will affect both your winamp and the game |
| 05:05.32 | Legorol | actually it was rather painless this time |
| 05:05.47 | Legorol | only major gotchas are the hooks to movement functions, RegForSave, and hidden tooltip scans |
| 05:05.56 | Legorol | oh yeah Iriel, a favour please: |
| 05:06.13 | Iriel | Yes? |
| 05:06.21 | Legorol | since you are making the actual changes thread, any chance you could point out these other 2 gotchas in there as well? |
| 05:06.31 | Legorol | that RegforSave doesn't work anymore, and that tooltip scans need SetOwner |
| 05:06.36 | Legorol | i suspect a lot of people will want to know that |
| 05:06.55 | Legorol | i know they are not strictly API changes... |
| 05:07.09 | Iriel | Good calls, i've made a note to add them |
| 05:07.45 | Legorol | this patch isn't as bad as i think 1.7 or 1.8 was |
| 05:07.55 | Legorol | where Earth has decided to eat all keypresses for some mysterious reason |
| 05:08.24 | Inokis | you know what would be fun, if we could program the channel for language, ie when ppl talk about the dev stuff they can set their language and just speak gibberish to those that aren't enabled to set language... :) |
| 05:08.58 | Wobin_ | SetOwner? |
| 05:09.13 | Cairenn | Inokis: who says it isn't already gibberish to those that aren't enabled? :p |
| 05:09.20 | Inokis | lol i know it is to me |
| 05:09.47 | Inokis | i just thought it would be fun and then give ppl the message, your dev faction is not high enough to translate this msg. |
| 05:10.00 | Cairenn | that's when you shut up and listen and hopefully pick some of it up :) |
| 05:10.32 | Legorol | "RegforSave doesn't work anymore, and that tooltip scans need SetOwner" |
| 05:10.45 | Legorol | if i told that to someone around me here, they'd freak out thinking i'm muttering crazy stuff |
| 05:11.22 | Inokis | i understand what you're saying I just have no clue as to how you edit tooltips yet, so... |
| 05:12.48 | Miravlix | Anyone noticed that all channeled spells no longer generate channeling events on test 1.10 |
| 05:13.23 | Inokis | as for variables i've been using SavedVariablesPerCharacter: and just setting value=X in the code |
| 05:13.48 | Miravlix | Well not all |
| 05:14.01 | Miravlix | HearthStone is no longer generating Channeled |
| 05:14.13 | Miravlix | Neither is Teleport Stormwind and many others |
| 05:14.25 | Inokis | oversight or intentional? |
| 05:14.45 | Legorol | Miravlix: is that why CT is borked for you? |
| 05:14.49 | Inokis | if not a channel event what event are they sparking, just a cast event? |
| 05:15.17 | Miravlix | I think so |
| 05:15.25 | Miravlix | Still trying to figure this crap out |
| 05:15.29 | Legorol | Miravlix: my hearthstone still gives the CT countdown correctly |
| 05:15.33 | Inokis | if neither a cast event or channel you could still use is castbarshown(): |
| 05:15.49 | Legorol | all 3 of them |
| 05:16.48 | Inokis | from concentration or timeportal? |
| 05:16.50 | Cairenn | night Legorol |
| 05:17.43 | Cairenn | okay, anyone have any mods they plan on uploading within the next 1/2 hr? |
| 05:18.02 | Inokis | nope in fact you can prolly del mine, i've get them locally if i start wow again |
| 05:18.11 | Cairenn | Inokis: k |
| 05:18.11 | Inokis | got |
| 05:18.14 | Miravlix | I get NO time when I try to use Hearthstone on a Mage |
| 05:18.26 | Miravlix | Same for mounting |
| 05:18.31 | Inokis | i just hate to use up space and stuff for uis if i'm not playing |
| 05:19.04 | Cairenn | meh |
| 05:19.07 | Inokis | and since i'm in a gaming limbo, rutt, boredom, can't find my place sort of mentality i just can't say anything for sure |
| 05:19.50 | Inokis | plus i'm sure ppl will be thankful i'm not pushing idiocy off for mods and give them a break |
| 05:20.01 | Cairenn | ~whaleslap Inokis |
| 05:20.03 | purl | ACTION beats Inokis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 05:20.05 | Inokis | lol |
| 05:20.36 | Inokis | that was just classic i'm laughing my ass off |
| 05:21.23 | Inokis | you two are the best |
| 05:21.34 | Cairenn | purl is a bot dear |
| 05:21.45 | Inokis | oh doh, idiocy strikes again |
| 05:22.15 | Inokis | Ino: 0 Channel 2, Cairenn 4, i'm losing to a bot |
| 05:22.20 | Cairenn | and of course, being a friend of mine for a long time means I'll abuse the hell out of you |
| 05:22.31 | Cairenn | no quarter given |
| 05:22.33 | Inokis | as long as the whip isnt barbed |
| 05:22.47 | Cairenn | you love it and you know it :p |
| 05:22.58 | Inokis | my ass thinks differently |
| 05:23.03 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 05:23.24 | Inokis | that whale thing was just great though, god i was laughing |
| 05:23.37 | Cairenn | ~whaleblock |
| 05:23.48 | Cairenn | hrm |
| 05:23.55 | Inokis | very few times do i get an impromtu laughing reaction such as that |
| 05:24.01 | Cairenn | ~whaleguard |
| 05:24.10 | Inokis | bot be broken? |
| 05:24.13 | Cairenn | grrr, can't remember the trigger |
| 05:24.21 | Cairenn | naw, PEBKAC |
| 05:24.21 | Inokis | you can look at the bot script |
| 05:24.30 | Wobin_ | ~listkeys whale |
| 05:24.51 | Wobin_ | ~whaleblock Cairenn |
| 05:24.53 | purl | ACTION shields Cairenn with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 05:24.57 | Inokis | there you go |
| 05:25.14 | Cairenn | ah, didn't think I needed a name |
| 05:25.23 | Wobin_ | ~whalehug |
| 05:25.24 | purl | wobin_ hugs a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and gets all slimey! |
| 05:25.32 | Wobin_ | ew |
| 05:25.34 | Cairenn | ewwww |
| 05:26.16 | Cairenn | okay, that's enough whale and bot abuse for me for the night ... I'm out ... try and get some sleep before the insanity starts |
| 05:26.16 | Wobin_ | ~whaleslap learner |
| 05:26.18 | purl | ACTION beats learner upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 05:26.18 | Cairenn | night guys |
| 05:26.29 | Inokis | later cair thx for the fun |
| 05:26.53 | Wobin_ | night Cair |
| 05:27.29 | Inokis | its so odd knowing someone for so long and never meeting them |
| 05:28.10 | Inokis | i've known ppl through my games for 5 years and never met any of htem |
| 05:28.15 | Cairenn|sleep | (that's why I was checking to see if anyone was uploading in the next 1/2 hr. I'd have stayed up to approve. But, since no one said they are, Imma get sleep while I can) |
| 05:28.26 | Inokis | go for it |
| 05:28.32 | Inokis | ull have enough tomorrow |
| 05:29.32 | Inokis | you know its so funny that ppl can forge online relationships that outlast their personal ones |
| 05:29.47 | Wobin_ | Well... because of separation |
| 05:29.58 | Wobin_ | You can log off and never see the person as long as you want |
| 05:30.09 | Inokis | still, that can't be the entirety of it |
| 05:30.19 | Wobin_ | You can't exactly shut someone out of your life irl |
| 05:30.25 | Wobin_ | Oh it saves a lot of angst |
| 05:30.38 | Wobin_ | Also, conversations online are more thought out |
| 05:30.48 | Wobin_ | since there's somewhat of a filter between brain and typing |
| 05:30.49 | Inokis | the girl i'm with now is the first girl i've known for any significant time, but i've known ppl online longer |
| 05:31.26 | Wobin_ | You don't have to make as much effort to get along. There aren't as many 'annoying habits' detectable online |
| 05:31.40 | Inokis | true, i'm an annoying bastard |
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| 05:35.05 | Cairenn|sleep | oh, guys, if you think of it through the next few hours, stop by every now and then and bump http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343496&p=1&tmp=1#post343496 and http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343510&p=1&tmp=1#post343510 please? |
| 05:35.19 | Cairenn|sleep | and on that note, really gone ... see folks tomorrow |
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| 05:38.07 | Iriel | Interesting, KillCounter stopped working in 1.10 |
| 05:40.10 | Miravlix | Future investigation shows |
| 05:40.25 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.25 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.25 | Miravlix | Fired when a spell cast stops. |
| 05:40.25 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.25 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:40.41 | Miravlix | We no longer get a SPELLCAST_STOP event for the end of Channeled spells? |
| 05:45.41 | Miravlix | We don't get SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_UPDATE or SPELLCAST_STOP for the end of Channeled spells, this breaks CastTime pretty bad |
| 05:45.55 | Miravlix | Since it can't detect when a channeled spell is over through events anymore |
| 05:46.27 | Miravlix | I have to use OnUpdate and CastingBarFrame:IsVisible() and that seems pretty BOGUS |
| 05:46.49 | Iriel | Miravlix : How does the casting bar know then? |
| 05:48.58 | Legorol | *sigh* someone please please tell me why are end-users so silly sometimes |
| 05:49.09 | Miravlix | Iriel: Good question |
| 05:49.27 | Legorol | I have uploaded my mod in preparation for 1.10, and guess what... they download it now, then post about error messages |
| 05:49.39 | Legorol | even though it's clearly marked for 1.10 |
| 05:49.47 | Miravlix | Do you have the code for CastingBar in 1.10? |
| 05:50.04 | Legorol | Miravlix: it's on our SVN, under Blizzard source |
| 05:50.10 | Legorol | alternatively, wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 05:53.26 | Miravlix | What was the new getbuild API? |
| 05:54.09 | Miravlix | wdn doesn't have 5195 |
| 05:54.40 | Legorol | no changes to the interface in 5195 |
| 05:55.07 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:55.11 | Legorol | but if you want to be safe, look at the stuff on the SVN, i tend to keep it up-to-date |
| 05:55.11 | Miravlix | Maybe we should document |
| 05:55.20 | Miravlix | that there now is a SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_STOP |
| 05:55.37 | Miravlix | and SPELLCAST_STOP no longer triggers for end of channel. :p |
| 05:56.20 | Iriel | Please add that to my 'Actual changes' if you can |
| 05:56.30 | Miravlix | I can't |
| 05:56.33 | Miravlix | EU |
| 05:57.27 | Miravlix | They have recoded all of CastingBarFrame.lua with these new events |
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| 05:58.08 | Iriel | Hm, was SetOwner all that tooltips needed? |
| 05:58.15 | Iriel | Or do they need to be :Show()'n too? |
| 05:58.27 | Miravlix | SetOwner(blabla "ANCHOR_NONE) |
| 05:59.11 | Miravlix | Thats all it needs |
| 05:59.21 | Miravlix | Pretty strange having to set the tooltip anchor to none. :) |
| 05:59.58 | Miravlix | Hmm, what was the difference between IsVisible() and IsShown()? |
| 06:00.20 | Wobin_ | dependant on the parent, isn't it? |
| 06:00.50 | Iriel | Cool, it works now. |
| 06:01.03 | Iriel | IsVisible == is it rendered |
| 06:01.09 | Iriel | IsShown == Would it be rendered if its parent was visible |
| 06:01.17 | Iriel | Show/Hide always change IsShown |
| 06:02.59 | Miravlix | Party of the new event mans that SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_UPDATE no longer return arg1 == 0 |
| 06:04.24 | Miravlix | Thats how we used to detect end of channels |
| 06:05.00 | Miravlix | And I rule, CastTime is ready for 1.10 |
| 06:05.20 | Iriel | I can see AfterCast will need love |
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| 06:08.49 | s|loup | hi |
| 06:09.15 | s|loup | im looking for someone who got experience with the new dynamic frame system |
| 06:09.38 | Iriel | What about it? |
| 06:10.15 | s|loup | i have created a button |
| 06:10.24 | s|loup | and a fontstring to set the text on it |
| 06:10.34 | s|loup | then i make an onclick handler |
| 06:10.48 | s|loup | and inthis i want to change the text on the button |
| 06:11.03 | s|loup | but button:SetText() didnt work |
| 06:11.12 | Iriel | Well, no, because you created a FontString for your text |
| 06:11.28 | Iriel | so you have to call SetText on that? |
| 06:11.32 | s|loup | but how can i set the text on the button without the fobtstring? |
| 06:12.06 | s|loup | the SetText() function didnt work without the fontstring |
| 06:12.12 | Iriel | Well, you could call :SetTextFontObject on the button, then SetText on the button? |
| 06:12.24 | s|loup | got nil for that |
| 06:12.34 | s|loup | hm |
| 06:12.37 | s|loup | wait |
| 06:12.59 | s|loup | what type of object is TextFontOgject? |
| 06:13.54 | Iriel | Font ? |
| 06:13.58 | s|loup | CreateFont()? |
| 06:14.07 | Iriel | try GameFontNormal |
| 06:14.22 | s|loup | k we will try this, hope it works ;) |
| 06:14.34 | ckknight | frame:CreateFontString("name", "layer") |
| 06:15.21 | s|loup | 2nd: do you know that the function SpellTargetUnit() can be used as SpellStopCasting()? |
| 06:15.36 | s|loup | and as i know this isnt changed in 1.10 |
| 06:15.46 | Iriel | I'm not actually sure that the SetTextFontObject function works on a button though |
| 06:16.07 | s|loup | as a healer i can simply use SpellTargetUnit("pet") so it works properly an SpellStopCasting() |
| 06:16.21 | s|loup | because healer doesnt get pets |
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| 06:17.04 | Iriel | Even when a spell is mid-cast? |
| 06:17.08 | s|loup | jep |
| 06:17.13 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:17.21 | s|loup | and even in addons without hardware event |
| 06:17.51 | s|loup | if he doenst found the unitid the spell will be break |
| 06:18.10 | ckknight | couldn't you just as well do SpellTargetUnit("nil") for all classes? |
| 06:18.24 | s|loup | i didnt tried nil as unitid but "pet" work wonderful |
| 06:18.49 | ckknight | well, "pet" would only work with non-locks/hunters |
| 06:18.52 | Iriel | You're sure about this? |
| 06:18.59 | Iriel | It didn't cancel my hearthstone |
| 06:19.02 | s|loup | was tested on testservers |
| 06:19.10 | Iriel | though that's a channel not a cast I suppose |
| 06:19.49 | Iriel | Doesn't work at all for Fireball either |
| 06:19.55 | s|loup | hm maybe there were some changes in release 1,19? |
| 06:20.00 | s|loup | 1.10 |
| 06:20.11 | ckknight | not working for me, s|loup |
| 06:20.17 | ckknight | just tried it in the test server |
| 06:20.18 | Iriel | Did you test this from a hardware event or not? |
| 06:20.21 | ckknight | doing a lesser heal on myself |
| 06:20.27 | ckknight | both with and without a hardware event |
| 06:20.50 | s|loup | tried with addons for manaconserve |
| 06:20.55 | Iriel | I can't get button fonts to work without a FontString 8-( |
| 06:21.32 | s|loup | :/ |
| 06:21.47 | ckknight | definitely not working, s|loup |
| 06:21.55 | s|loup | k |
| 06:22.34 | s|loup | does he tell you that he didnt found the unit? |
| 06:22.51 | ckknight | no |
| 06:22.58 | s|loup | oO |
| 06:23.01 | ckknight | I even did it for a unit that does exist |
| 06:23.07 | ckknight | "target" |
| 06:23.12 | ckknight | did nothing |
| 06:23.25 | s|loup | it does or it doesnt? |
| 06:24.04 | ckknight | did nothing. |
| 06:24.09 | Wobin_ | how about spelltarget("npc")? |
| 06:24.22 | s|loup | maybe it only works with 'pet' ? |
| 06:24.28 | ckknight | I tried pet |
| 06:24.32 | s|loup | ah ok |
| 06:25.34 | s|loup | hm weird, looks like a illusion by me ^^ |
| 06:25.36 | Wobin_ | woohoo! |
| 06:25.42 | Wobin_ | Obvlivion complete! |
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| 06:26.58 | s|loup | Iriel, is there a way to get the Fontstring of the button directly? |
| 06:27.21 | Iriel | s|loup it doesn't seem to get created with one, it may be a 'missing' method. You can create on on the fly though |
| 06:27.37 | s|loup | we tried the GetChields() function but FontString isnt a child of a frame |
| 06:27.45 | Iriel | FontStrings are Regions, not Frames |
| 06:27.53 | Iriel | So it'd be GetRegions() |
| 06:28.09 | s|loup | so the only way i see to use getglobal(butt:GetName().."FontsStringName") |
| 06:28.21 | ckknight | hehe, butt |
| 06:28.33 | Iriel | Well, the question is how does the button find its font string normally |
| 06:28.37 | s|loup | or can i get the fontstring with an other method? |
| 06:28.54 | s|loup | i hoped that SetText() will do that for me ^^ |
| 06:29.17 | s|loup | but this is just for the attribute i think |
| 06:29.43 | Iriel | SetText doesn't appear to be working right for dynamic Buttons |
| 06:29.46 | s|loup | ah ok we trie getregions |
| 06:30.23 | s|loup | thx for that |
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| 07:03.23 | s|loup | ah a last question from eu-forums ;) is lua 5.1 supported with 1.10? |
| 07:03.57 | Iriel | No |
| 07:04.06 | Iriel | Nor will it be anytime soon (or possibly ever) |
| 07:04.12 | s|loup | ok thanks again *g* |
| 07:08.18 | Iriel | Well, I think that's good enough for one night |
| 07:08.48 | Miravlix | You added channeling event change to your post? |
| 07:08.48 | Wobin_ | hrm |
| 07:08.56 | Iriel | oh, no, thanks for the reminder |
| 07:09.07 | Wobin_ | Can I use table.foreach to call a function in each object in the table? |
| 07:09.14 | Wobin_ | (ie, I have an array of objects) |
| 07:09.55 | krka|work | yes |
| 07:10.03 | Iriel | That's what it's for, yup |
| 07:10.31 | Wobin_ | I thought it was to call a function over and over using the table contents as values |
| 07:10.38 | Miravlix | basically SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_UPDATE and arg1 == 0 was how we detected end of channeling, now it's SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_STOP |
| 07:10.47 | krka|work | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.4 |
| 07:11.05 | krka|work | it's really easy to write your own foreach though, if the builtin doesn't suit your needs |
| 07:11.21 | krka|work | you may not want to break on the first non-nil return value, for instance |
| 07:11.51 | Miravlix | Spam Spam Spam it's better than Jam |
| 07:11.52 | Miravlix | ArcanePartyBars 1.10 issue: |
| 07:11.52 | Miravlix | Channeling events was changed, earlier channeling spells would generate these events: |
| 07:11.52 | Miravlix | <start channeling> |
| 07:11.52 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_CHANNELING_START |
| 07:11.52 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_STOP |
| 07:11.54 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.56 | Miravlix | <stop channeling> |
| 07:11.58 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_CHANNELING_UPDATE,arg1 == 0 |
| 07:11.59 | krka|work | function foreach(t, f) for k, v in t do f(k) end end |
| 07:12.00 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_STOP |
| 07:12.02 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.02 | Iriel | table.foreachi(table, function(k,v) v:Function() end) |
| 07:12.04 | Miravlix | Now it generates |
| 07:12.06 | Miravlix | <start channeling> |
| 07:12.08 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_CHANNELING_START |
| 07:12.09 | s|loup | SPELLCAST_STOP is normaly used for end of all spells |
| 07:12.10 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_STOP |
| 07:12.12 | Miravlix | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.14 | Miravlix | <stop channeling> |
| 07:12.16 | Miravlix | SPELLCAST_CHANNELING_STOP <- NEW EVENT in 1.10 |
| 07:12.32 | Wobin_ | Aha! |
| 07:12.34 | Wobin_ | Thankee |
| 07:12.41 | Miravlix | I'm telling you how it is with 1.10 |
| 07:12.47 | krka|work | yeah, i considered wrapping the function too |
| 07:12.56 | krka|work | seems less efficient :) |
| 07:13.49 | Wobin_ | Iriel's seems to make more sense to me... |
| 07:13.55 | krka|work | must create a bunch of closures |
| 07:13.55 | Miravlix | And all my CHANNELING should be CHANNEL |
| 07:14.15 | Iriel | Miravlix : So there's no seconds _STOP ? |
| 07:14.23 | Wobin_ | oh. You're defining a new function |
| 07:14.29 | Wobin_ | nm me =) |
| 07:14.38 | Iriel | Well, you can define it earlier. |
| 07:14.40 | krka|work | who is "You" there? |
| 07:14.50 | Wobin_ | You == krka |
| 07:15.03 | krka|work | iriel was also defining a new function :P |
| 07:15.13 | Iriel | the 'You' was to your closures comment |
| 07:15.14 | Wobin_ | well, within the actual foreach =) |
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| 07:15.27 | Iriel | local function fireMethod(k,v) v:method() end |
| 07:15.27 | Miravlix | The second stop is gone and so is a _CHANNEL_UPDATE with arg1 == 0 |
| 07:15.35 | Iriel | then table.foreachi(tableName, fireMethod) |
| 07:16.06 | Miravlix | Now you only get CHANNEL_UPDATE on length of channeled spell getting reduced |
| 07:16.09 | krka|work | ok, that is probably better than mine |
| 07:16.33 | ckknight | I need a CloneFrame function |
| 07:16.53 | krka|work | so make one! |
| 07:16.56 | Miravlix | sea.table.copy? |
| 07:16.57 | s|loup | i want inherits in dynamic frames ^^ |
| 07:17.14 | krka|work | sea.table.copy produces frames and stuff too? |
| 07:17.22 | Miravlix | I forgot, but I think sea.table.copy can copy frames |
| 07:17.32 | Iriel | No, it can't |
| 07:17.39 | Iriel | Or, should I say, it can copy the tables |
| 07:17.45 | Iriel | But it doesn't create new frames |
| 07:17.50 | Iriel | That'd need to be a specialized function |
| 07:17.54 | ckknight | yea, but frames aren't "real" tables |
| 07:18.14 | ckknight | I'm thinking of ways to do it, but I'm seeing shortfalls |
| 07:18.25 | Iriel | It'd have to know all of the frame types |
| 07:18.38 | krka|work | a clone frame would be a nice inherit-scheme |
| 07:18.38 | Iriel | I think it'd be an excellent exercise in finding the holes in the API set 8-) |
| 07:18.51 | ckknight | there's Frame:SetBackdrop({ backdropTable }), but there is no Frame:GetBackdrop() |
| 07:18.52 | Miravlix | --If it's a table we want to recurse. But the second half of this if checks to see if it |
| 07:18.52 | Miravlix | --is a reference to a frame, which looks like a table, and does a normal copy in such a |
| 07:18.52 | Miravlix | --case |
| 07:19.08 | krka|work | yes, just a reference copy |
| 07:19.14 | krka|work | so there's still just one frame |
| 07:19.17 | ckknight | not a clone |
| 07:19.53 | krka|work | could probably just ask slouken for the GetBackdrop |
| 07:20.41 | Miravlix | so it had frame support, but not duplicate support. |
| 07:21.22 | ckknight | for every setter, there should be a getter |
| 07:21.29 | ckknight | in almost all cases |
| 07:21.31 | Iriel | I'd say "It's dimly Frame-aware" 8-) |
| 07:21.45 | Iriel | ckknight : Agreed, we were getting them when we asked for them earlier in the 1.10 cycle |
| 07:21.50 | Shouryuu|Sleep | ckknight: Still need help with that french translation? |
| 07:21.57 | ckknight | oh yes |
| 07:22.06 | ckknight | it'd be amazing if you could do it for me |
| 07:22.09 | Iriel | I'd imagine once I fire up the 1.11 changes thread (Which slouken asked me not to do until 1.10 goes live) then we can drop the extra missing ones in there |
| 07:22.11 | Miravlix | If you make a meta for assignment you would get a copy |
| 07:22.16 | Shouryuu|Sleep | I have to go to school atm but sent me in a PM what you need me to translate and I'll try |
| 07:22.20 | ckknight | alright, Iriel |
| 07:22.27 | Miravlix | Just create your frame with support for duplicating it self through a meta |
| 07:22.47 | Miravlix | Thats the propper way to do it anyway. |
| 07:22.50 | krka|work | just thought of something...we could create a blueprint datastructure |
| 07:22.51 | ckknight | okay, it's a bit long, though |
| 07:22.54 | krka|work | and use that for inheritance |
| 07:22.59 | Shouryuu|Sleep | I'll see what I can do |
| 07:23.06 | krka|work | then have a function that realizes a blueprint |
| 07:23.32 | Miravlix | The Ur-Prototype Table |
| 07:23.38 | Miravlix | Like the proto-human |
| 07:23.52 | Miravlix | But the proto-human was 3984747 different races |
| 07:24.36 | Miravlix | That makes inheritance confusing |
| 07:25.18 | Miravlix | in the real world inheritance is few to many then one of the many dominates and become few that then turns into many again |
| 07:26.52 | Miravlix | Where computer inheritance is one to many and is missing he pruning step to create a more survivable gene pool |
| 07:27.41 | ckknight | Miravlix, with modern medicine, we no longer have this "pruning" step either |
| 07:27.53 | ckknight | hospitals have caused the death of evolution |
| 07:28.14 | Miravlix | Who gives crap about evolution |
| 07:28.15 | krka|work | don't be silly, it has merely shifted the focus |
| 07:28.17 | ckknight | for without the death of those who are weak, there is no progress |
| 07:28.27 | krka|work | we have just redefined weak |
| 07:28.27 | Miravlix | It's how I can use it to become a better coder that matters |
| 07:28.47 | ckknight | i still want a plague to come |
| 07:29.33 | ckknight | it would strengthen the gene pool |
| 07:29.57 | Miravlix | I don't see the point anymore |
| 07:30.01 | ckknight | think how much sicker as a whole we would be if the black death had not come to Europe |
| 07:30.08 | Miravlix | There is no need for a stronger gene pool in humans |
| 07:30.12 | Miravlix | Only in programming |
| 07:30.57 | Miravlix | Lets end this master race crap and get back to programming, this conversation is making me sick. |
| 07:31.19 | ckknight | master race? |
| 07:31.33 | ckknight | I never mentioned anything like that |
| 07:31.40 | Miravlix | Yes you did |
| 07:31.50 | Miravlix | Survival of the fittest |
| 07:31.57 | ckknight | yea |
| 07:32.03 | Miravlix | Thats Master Race |
| 07:32.05 | ckknight | I wouldn't consider that the same as a master race |
| 07:32.06 | Miravlix | Hitler syndrome |
| 07:32.09 | krka|work | ... |
| 07:32.12 | Kolth | No it's not, Mira. |
| 07:32.16 | Kolth | What are you talking about. |
| 07:32.17 | krka|work | Miravlix, stop being an idiot :/ |
| 07:32.27 | Kolth | Hitler was eugenics. |
| 07:32.40 | Miravlix | Hitler used Master Race by selective breeding |
| 07:32.49 | Miravlix | You use Master Race though selective death |
| 07:32.51 | Kolth | So did my mom and dad. |
| 07:32.55 | Kolth | It's not evil. |
| 07:33.25 | Miravlix | Your mom and dad did not choose to breed because it would make a superior offspring |
| 07:33.34 | Miravlix | They did it because they had sex |
| 07:33.38 | Kolth | You are 100% wrong. |
| 07:33.46 | ckknight | biologically, we don't work that way, Miravlix |
| 07:33.52 | ckknight | we seek out strong, fit mates |
| 07:34.14 | [MoonWolf] | actually we seek out mates the fit our weird perception |
| 07:34.25 | ckknight | it's why I like big boobs and big hips, because the will provide adequate milk for my children and let them grow strong in her womb |
| 07:34.30 | [MoonWolf] | you may notice that the qualities the modern media forces on us are not strong or fit. |
| 07:34.58 | ckknight | yea, propaganda's not helping |
| 07:35.00 | Miravlix | Big hipped/breasted women isn't better at making milk |
| 07:35.03 | Kolth | Night, iriel! |
| 07:35.04 | krka|work | good night iriel |
| 07:35.06 | s|loup | bye |
| 07:35.08 | Miravlix | On the other hand they have damaged bodies |
| 07:35.13 | Kolth | Miravlix: you know that for a fact? |
| 07:35.16 | Miravlix | Yes |
| 07:35.34 | ckknight | you're wrong, Miravlix... |
| 07:35.37 | ckknight | hate to break it to you |
| 07:35.49 | Miravlix | I'm wrong about what? |
| 07:36.00 | ckknight | big breasts provide more milk |
| 07:36.45 | [MoonWolf] | that depends on how much fat and how much milk glands those breasts contian. |
| 07:36.45 | krka|work | or more silicone |
| 07:36.51 | s|loup | you know that breasts grow with pregnancy? |
| 07:36.59 | ckknight | yep |
| 07:37.08 | krka|work | also belly grows |
| 07:37.14 | Miravlix | It's not the breast, but the milk glands that grow, as far as I know. |
| 07:37.18 | krka|work | and baby |
| 07:37.27 | s|loup | so the possibility to produce milk isnt given at the start of pregnancy |
| 07:37.37 | Kolth | Mammary glands. |
| 07:37.44 | Kolth | And she also just gains water and fat weight. |
| 07:38.12 | s|loup | it will be mostly an average |
| 07:38.23 | s|loup | its like men with big foots .... |
| 07:38.31 | krka|work | feet |
| 07:38.31 | Kolth | Word! (re: loup) |
| 07:38.41 | ckknight | yea, that's a total myth |
| 07:38.42 | s|loup | ups sr |
| 07:38.43 | s|loup | y |
| 07:38.46 | Kolth | ckknight: No way! |
| 07:38.57 | ckknight | my feet aren't that big, but my dick is a pretty reasonable size |
| 07:39.10 | Kolth | The converstaion just now became vulgar. |
| 07:39.19 | ckknight | s|loup brought it up |
| 07:39.19 | s|loup | omg pls dont comparise your ..... |
| 07:39.30 | Kolth | ckknight: He didn't bring your body up. |
| 07:39.31 | s|loup | its just a analogy |
| 07:39.43 | ckknight | oh well |
| 07:39.54 | ckknight | let's forget it was said, then |
| 07:40.00 | s|loup | ;) |
| 07:41.05 | krka|work | i have a 17" one |
| 07:41.10 | krka|work | i really should get a new monitor |
| 07:41.16 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 07:41.23 | Wobin_ | I'm so glad we changed subject =P |
| 07:41.25 | ckknight | 10 feet, baby |
| 07:41.43 | Miravlix | Now thats a freakishly big bay |
| 07:41.53 | Miravlix | s/bay/baby/ |
| 07:42.24 | ckknight | remember the movie Honey I Grew The Baby? |
| 07:42.26 | ckknight | or something |
| 07:42.56 | Miravlix | Ask me about Starwars, or something EPIC, I refuse to remember some B movie. |
| 07:43.00 | Wobin_ | There was a third one? |
| 07:43.05 | Wobin_ | dear god |
| 07:43.22 | Wobin_ | or was that the second one? |
| 07:43.29 | Wobin_ | "Blew up"? |
| 07:43.38 | [MoonWolf] | wasnt the second, honey i shrunk ourselves |
| 07:43.54 | s|loup | when will the thrawn series be coming as movie? |
| 07:43.59 | Wobin_ | I remember something like that |
| 07:44.50 | ckknight | that's it |
| 07:44.57 | ckknight | Honey I Blew Up the Baby |
| 08:02.34 | krka|work | when is patch day in usa? |
| 08:02.38 | krka|work | tuesday? |
| 08:04.05 | Wobin_ | aye |
| 08:04.19 | krka|work | so today you might get 1.10? |
| 08:04.31 | Miravlix | NOt might |
| 08:04.34 | Miravlix | It's announced |
| 08:04.38 | krka|work | oooh cool! |
| 08:07.06 | Miravlix | Been working all night to get Cosmos ready for it |
| 08:10.58 | ckknight | I just uploaded a 1.10 version of BossPanel ;-) |
| 08:11.53 | Miravlix | It's pretty hard for us to be patch ready, there is to many hidden changes that it's chance we notice |
| 08:12.55 | Miravlix | Iriel's list help some, but mostly it just list the new crap and doesn't focus on the important issue of making addons survive the new patch. |
| 08:14.00 | Miravlix | And Blizzard is not doing much to help us. |
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| 09:00.41 | Kemayo | Hello... |
| 09:01.47 | Miravlix | They ATE the darn test server |
| 09:02.40 | ckknight | delicious |
| 09:02.41 | [MoonWolf] | i wonder what test servers taste like. |
| 09:02.57 | Miravlix | You know it's bed time when you with a puzzled notions starts clicking the on/off button on your monitor. |
| 09:03.13 | Miravlix | What does this do? |
| 09:03.22 | [MoonWolf] | .... |
| 09:03.22 | Miravlix | Oh it turn the monitor off. |
| 09:03.37 | Miravlix | I wonder if it does it again, if I do it again. |
| 09:03.48 | [MoonWolf] | shoo Miravlix shoo, im your subconcience telling you to go to bed. |
| 09:04.46 | Kemayo | I'm sort of new at this -- why might an addon be throwing the error "......ext:SetText(): Font not set"? |
| 09:04.52 | Miravlix | First you PvP for 8 hours, then you code for 12 hours, lets just say the brain died 6 hours ago atleast! |
| 09:05.17 | Miravlix | Kemayo: You didn't do a SetFont? |
| 09:05.45 | Kemayo | I inhereited it from someone else. It's my first ever WoW xml addition. ;_; |
| 09:06.06 | Miravlix | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetFont |
| 09:07.05 | s|loup | can you give us the xml code of the object? |
| 09:07.19 | s|loup | maybe you have lost something in there |
| 09:09.17 | Kemayo | Sure: http://www.kemayo.com/wow/BossPanel_Quests.xml |
| 09:09.27 | ckknight | Miravlix, programming is best done in 24-36 hour chunks |
| 09:10.05 | Kemayo | (The error comes from line 193 of http://www.kemayo.com/wow/BossPanel_Quests.lua ) |
| 09:10.33 | s|loup | SRS_IK_00150 Parameter update |
| 09:10.33 | s|loup | Wird nach einem Neustart festgestellt, dass der 5 Minutenschalter aktiv ist, dann soll der Ikus die Parameter und Betriebszustände aus dem FRAM lesen, wieder einstellen und in dem alten Betriebszustand weiterlaufen. |
| 09:10.36 | Miravlix | ckknight: I can't do that anymore, I'm simply to good, I run out of things to do in a few hours these days. |
| 09:10.38 | s|loup | ups |
| 09:10.43 | s|loup | sry |
| 09:11.02 | s|loup | <FontString name="$parentText" inherits="GameFontNormalSmall" text="TEXT_QUESTS"> |
| 09:11.07 | s|loup | this one maybe? |
| 09:11.41 | Kemayo | That's the one the game says it comes from, certainly. |
| 09:12.31 | Kemayo | I'm probably not at my best at this time of night, also. :) |
| 09:13.21 | Miravlix | Ack, wtb that file on wow.pastebin.com |
| 09:13.37 | Miravlix | Source without line numbers = my worst nightmare |
| 09:13.42 | s|loup | you name it FontString but its called Fontstring isnt it? |
| 09:13.59 | s|loup | or is it not casesensitive? |
| 09:14.10 | Miravlix | Everything is case sensitive |
| 09:14.27 | s|loup | so pls name them Fontstring instead of FontString |
| 09:14.39 | ckknight | no, it's FontString |
| 09:14.47 | s|loup | oO |
| 09:15.17 | s|loup | in my addons they all called Fontstring oO |
| 09:15.45 | ckknight | it's FontString |
| 09:16.18 | s|loup | why does Fontstring work like FontString? |
| 09:17.17 | Kemayo | There are definitely quite a lot of addons out there using FontString. And that API documentation Miravlix linked to calls it that. |
| 09:17.36 | s|loup | yes have checked the ui.xsd |
| 09:17.42 | Miravlix | Someone did a FontString = fontstring |
| 09:17.54 | s|loup | its FontString but i didnt check why Fontstring is working too |
| 09:17.56 | Miravlix | or the other way around |
| 09:20.23 | s|loup | hm cant find the bug, looks good |
| 09:21.42 | s|loup | is the TEXT_QUESTS text visible on the button on startup? |
| 09:22.26 | Kemayo | Button doesn't appear at all. The error makes BossPanel stop coming up, so... |
| 09:23.19 | s|loup | coment the line with SetText so you can look at it |
| 09:24.49 | Miravlix | those SetText and stuff is definately not my strong point |
| 09:25.03 | Miravlix | But where is ckknight when you need a bosspanel geek |
| 09:25.53 | s|loup | he's jumping around because of FontString ^^ |
| 09:26.00 | Miravlix | local prev, button = BossPanel_Quest1 |
| 09:26.23 | Miravlix | Huh? |
| 09:26.56 | s|loup | don't know |
| 09:27.07 | Miravlix | he metaed =! |
| 09:27.16 | Miravlix | asdgjlsdkjflskdjflksjfd |
| 09:28.21 | Miravlix | I like that BossPanel actually use some of the nicer lua features, but the implementation makes my programming handbook pour gasolin over itself and lighting it |
| 09:28.21 | Kemayo | Adding "..\..\FrameXML\Fonts.xml" to the .toc file stops the error, it seems... |
| 09:29.00 | s|loup | oO |
| 09:29.42 | Kemayo | I think I shall have to go to bed, and look at this when I'm not really, really tired. |
| 09:30.24 | Miravlix | Aah, yes there is some crap with having to load Fonts.xml everywhere |
| 09:30.41 | s|loup | oO |
| 09:30.42 | Miravlix | The ClearFont of whatever it is author is moaning about it being impossible to detect |
| 09:31.30 | Miravlix | He basically have to do a ADDONS_LOADED event that redo everything to re-setup fonts.xml |
| 09:32.57 | Miravlix | s/pule/pile/ |
| 09:38.08 | [MoonWolf] | bosspanel will not eat you you know |
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| 10:04.50 | Miravlix_ | Ooh I got a tail! |
| 10:05.14 | Corrodias | tail? |
| 10:05.32 | Corrodias | this wouldn't have anything to do with the furry sticky thread on 4chan /b/? |
| 10:05.45 | Miravlix_ | Furries is food for us dragons |
| 10:06.24 | Miravlix | But getting a tail just means the _ at the end of my name |
| 10:06.28 | Kirov | Does anyone have a definitive "fix" for the tooltips in 1.10? |
| 10:06.45 | Kirov | ie: this:SetOwner(this,"ANCHOR_NONE"); |
| 10:06.54 | Miravlix | SetOwner( .... "ANCHOR_NONE") |
| 10:07.19 | Kirov | Just <OnLoad>? |
| 10:07.28 | Kirov | or does it need to be done before each set |
| 10:07.39 | s|loup | what probs are given with tooltips? |
| 11:05.45 | groll | hmm the author of bosspanel hang around here? :D |
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| 11:53.46 | JoshBorke | oh cool |
| 11:53.47 | JoshBorke | patch today |
| 11:55.19 | Cairenn | anyone still logged in to the US forums? |
| 12:01.30 | L|Elviso | Can't |
| 12:01.39 | L|Elviso | I tried to bump your post but couldn't :\ |
| 12:01.44 | Cairenn | that's why I asked if "still" |
| 12:02.03 | L|Elviso | Groll: I believe he does |
| 12:02.05 | Cairenn | if you are logged in before the servers go down, and refresh on a regular basis, you stay logged in |
| 12:02.11 | Cairenn | I didn't make it in time =/ |
| 12:02.18 | L|Elviso | o really? nvr knew that |
| 12:02.29 | groll | L|Elviso ok any clue who he is or he use his boss nick? |
| 12:02.29 | L|Elviso | it's really frustrating |
| 12:02.34 | L|Elviso | one sec |
| 12:02.36 | L|Elviso | groll |
| 12:02.43 | L|Elviso | brb |
| 12:02.50 | groll | his last updated kinda went bonkers :P |
| 12:02.57 | Cairenn | ckknight |
| 12:03.11 | Cairenn | he's not in channel atm, but he does frequent |
| 12:03.12 | groll | hi Cairenn :D |
| 12:03.19 | groll | okies |
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| 12:04.14 | L|Elviso | Cairenn: how often do you have to refresh? 15-20m or so? |
| 12:04.24 | Cairenn | I'm not sure |
| 12:04.49 | Cairenn | I've never really paid attention to how long it takes to drop out, since I refresh on a very regular basis |
| 12:04.52 | [MoonWolf] | im pretty sure its shorter then it used to be. |
| 12:04.59 | L|Elviso | groll: [02:09] <ckknight> I just uploaded a 1.10 version of BossPanel ;-) |
| 12:05.05 | groll | yay |
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| 12:05.42 | groll | umm he did? |
| 12:05.49 | groll | i dotn see it i see 0.9.2 |
| 12:05.58 | groll | aaah doooooh! |
| 12:06.00 | groll | that's why :P |
| 12:06.38 | L|Elviso | is it version 0.9.2 FOR 1.10? |
| 12:06.44 | Cairenn | yup |
| 12:06.54 | groll | ya i'm eu :P |
| 12:07.02 | Cairenn | heh |
| 12:07.07 | Miravlix | Don't go 1.10 then |
| 12:07.21 | Miravlix | Or if you do remember to bitch a lot in comments about the addon |
| 12:07.26 | groll | i know but i didnt know the patch came when i dl'd the update :P |
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| 12:15.07 | roflamingo | allo? |
| 12:21.13 | Wobin_ | There's an original name |
| 12:21.36 | Cairenn | heh |
| 12:23.58 | L|Elviso | I don't know if it lives up to ThaSouthBeachHottiez... |
| 12:25.24 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 12:37.04 | s|loup | does anyone know what glancing means dependent on combat? |
| 12:37.45 | Wobin_ | A less than effective blow in that it's not a direct hit, but one bouncing off? |
| 12:38.07 | Wobin_ | Or do you mean something more specific to WoW? |
| 12:38.30 | s|loup | no looks like what you said |
| 12:38.58 | Wobin_ | nodnod, generally speaking, that's the definition. As to actual WoW combat, I don't know how it affects it =) |
| 12:39.08 | AnduinLothar | morning |
| 12:39.14 | s|loup | hi |
| 12:39.17 | Cairenn | hey AnduinLothar :) |
| 12:39.26 | Wobin_ | 'lo AL |
| 12:39.31 | AnduinLothar | how's the pre-patch panic going? |
| 12:39.37 | Wobin_ | calmly =P |
| 12:39.42 | Wobin_ | (so far) |
| 12:39.53 | Cairenn | no one can post on the forums .. |
| 12:40.01 | Wobin_ | (not that any of my current addons will be affected =P I hope =P) |
| 12:40.28 | AnduinLothar | I see there's no dl yet either |
| 12:40.35 | Wobin_ | alas =( |
| 12:40.36 | Cairenn | nope, not yet |
| 12:40.43 | AnduinLothar | is test server still up? |
| 12:40.49 | Cairenn | I keep trying to get it, so I can get the patch notes up :p |
| 12:40.51 | Wobin_ | post in here when it comes up? |
| 12:40.59 | Cairenn | dunno AnduinLothar, didn't check |
| 12:41.28 | AnduinLothar | i see the site went to low bandwidth mode |
| 12:41.33 | Cairenn | yup |
| 12:43.15 | AnduinLothar | well the ptr installer still downloads.. |
| 12:44.11 | AnduinLothar | that might be a good sign |
| 12:47.11 | L|Elviso | I really wish they'd implement a simple single-player/offline mode |
| 12:47.31 | Wobin_ | House of Warcraft |
| 12:47.45 | L|Elviso | haha, I like that |
| 12:48.21 | L|Elviso | like, counter-strike, even though in a completely different genre, was 100% online based |
| 12:48.34 | L|Elviso | however, you could play against bots offline if you wanted |
| 12:48.40 | Wobin_ | well... |
| 12:48.50 | Wobin_ | you could log into one of those hacked servers |
| 12:49.30 | s|loup | hm as you say it, this would be a real mmorpg ^^ |
| 12:49.51 | Wobin_ | well... less on the MM |
| 12:49.59 | Wobin_ | or rather less on the MO |
| 12:51.03 | L|Elviso | I don't see how you could get -MO without -MMO :p |
| 12:51.13 | Wobin_ | well, it could still be Massive |
| 12:51.25 | L|Elviso | true |
| 12:51.42 | Wobin_ | I mean, look at Oblivion |
| 12:51.42 | AnduinLothar | PTR is down |
| 12:52.00 | Wobin_ | (and goddamn it every time I type that name, I type it Oblivious) |
| 12:52.01 | L|Elviso | funny post on the mage forums.... 1.11 mage talent review spoof: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=772694&p=1&tmp=1#post772694 |
| 12:52.36 | Cairenn | hey AnduinLothar? use your l337 Blizz employee skills and get logged in to the forums and bump my two threads for me :p |
| 12:53.40 | AnduinLothar | sorry, my leet skills are busy trying to get me logged into the ptr |
| 12:53.56 | Cairenn | bah |
| 12:53.59 | Wobin_ | relink, Cair? |
| 12:54.02 | [MoonWolf] | there is no more ptr ... right ? |
| 12:54.03 | Cairenn | can't get good help anywhere these days |
| 12:54.19 | Cairenn | Wobin_: you logged in? |
| 12:54.40 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343510&p=1&tmp=1#post343510 and http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343594&p=1&tmp=1#post343594 |
| 12:55.12 | L|Elviso | WATER TREE, Teleport Water: Allows up to six stacks of water to be teleported into the inventory of another player, anywhere in the world. Removes the inconvenience of having to actually include a Mage in your raid group. |
| 13:02.11 | L|Elviso | Cairenn: I prefer the "did I get a virus" UI on patchday... |
| 13:02.39 | L|Elviso | and refreshed the UI forums 4x's a minute looking for help |
| 13:02.39 | Cairenn | L|Elviso: ? |
| 13:02.51 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 13:02.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:02.56 | Wobin_ | I'm logged in as 'anonymous' |
| 13:02.58 | L|Elviso | Logging in w/all my addons still enabled, and getting a huge garbled mess of a UI |
| 13:05.21 | Cairenn | Wobin_: yeah, I can get logged in as that as well, but if you try to post with it you get "restricted forum" |
| 13:05.37 | Wobin_ | yeah =( |
| 13:06.02 | L|Elviso | I assume it's due to the session being kept/dropped on the server, and not a cookie...agree/disagree? |
| 13:06.04 | Wobin_ | ps, isn't it http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343496&p=1&tmp=1#post343496 that you want bumped, not the second one you linked above? |
| 13:08.20 | Cairenn | "mods updated for" and "ohnoezpatchpanic" that I started ...whatever the heck the links are |
| 13:08.25 | Cairenn | can't even get to the forums now |
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| 13:09.18 | Josh_Borke | morning |
| 13:09.31 | Cairenn | morning Josh |
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| 13:14.13 | Kirkburn | Good afternoon! |
| 13:14.18 | Cairenn | morning Kirkburn |
| 13:14.27 | Cairenn | or afternoon ;) |
| 13:14.32 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 13:14.49 | Cairenn | you're EU, right? |
| 13:15.01 | Kirkburn | Yup |
| 13:15.06 | Cairenn | k |
| 13:15.36 | Wobin_ | Evening =) |
| 13:15.37 | Kirkburn | How's you day (night?!) been so far? |
| 13:15.55 | Cairenn | good here, so far |
| 13:16.12 | Kirkburn | Cool :) |
| 13:16.14 | Cairenn | no one can post yet ;) |
| 13:17.01 | Kirkburn | When are the servers up? |
| 13:17.43 | Cairenn | " Tomorrow's weekly scheduled maintenance will begin at 3:00 AM PST in order to prepare for the 1.10 content patch. The following list of realms will remain down until 2:00 PM PST as additional maintenance is required. All other realms will be back online at approximately 11:00 AM PST. " |
| 13:18.26 | Josh_Borke | afternoon Kirkburn |
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| 13:19.14 | Kirkburn | Ciao! ... so, that's 9 hours behind here |
| 13:19.36 | Kirkburn | Woah, it's only just gone 6am there? |
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| 13:20.12 | Cairenn | 8 am here (eastern time zone) |
| 13:20.20 | Cairenn | so 5 am pacific |
| 13:20.59 | Kirkburn | You don't do Summer Time or anything? |
| 13:21.19 | Cairenn | we do, but later than you guys, not in effect yet |
| 13:21.20 | Josh_Borke | we do, but it hasn't started yet |
| 13:21.46 | Kirkburn | Aha |
| 13:21.57 | Wobin_ | ... 9:21pm |
| 13:22.21 | Wobin_ | What's PST to GMT? |
| 13:22.25 | Wobin_ | currently |
| 13:22.42 | AnduinLothar | anyone know how to get the toc on the wiki to not have #'s? |
| 13:22.46 | s|loup | 5h |
| 13:22.46 | Cairenn | plus ... 8? I think |
| 13:22.56 | krka|work | canada has summer time between june 27 and july 12 |
| 13:23.06 | Kirkburn | One example is that United States and Canada will extend Daylight Saving Time from 2007, and probably other regions and countries in Northern America will follow. The new start date will be the second Sunday in March (currently first Sunday in April), to the first Sunday in November (currently last Sunday in October). |
| 13:23.19 | Kirkburn | PST to GMT is +8 |
| 13:23.21 | Wobin_ | That can't be right, Cair... China is +8... |
| 13:23.39 | Cairenn | well, I'm est and I'm -5 |
| 13:23.46 | Cairenn | and pst is -3 from me, sooooo ... |
| 13:23.55 | Wobin_ | ah -8 =) |
| 13:23.58 | krka|work | a place where PST is used? |
| 13:24.00 | Kirkburn | China is the other way |
| 13:24.02 | Cairenn | that adds up to 8 in the math courses I took |
| 13:24.02 | Wobin_ | technically GMT to PST =) |
| 13:24.15 | krka|work | PST = GMT - 8 then |
| 13:24.16 | Kirkburn | No, PST to GMT is +8, GMT to PST is -8 |
| 13:24.21 | Cairenn | you said PST **TO** GMT |
| 13:24.28 | Cairenn | so that would be +8 |
| 13:24.30 | Kirkburn | This is fun! |
| 13:24.32 | Wobin_ | I did, I apologise =) |
| 13:24.37 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 13:24.50 | krka|work | just say it in the form i did, and there will be no confusion |
| 13:24.51 | Wobin_ | I meant it in more of a comparative, than polarative context =) |
| 13:24.54 | Kirkburn | China is the other way round, it's 8 hours in front of PST |
| 13:24.59 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 13:25.04 | Cairenn | that makes sense now |
| 13:25.21 | Kirkburn | Er, wait, it's 8 hours behind but a day ahead, I mean |
| 13:25.37 | Kirkburn | Bloody international date line |
| 13:26.05 | Cairenn | hehehhee |
| 13:26.13 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: don't think you can |
| 13:26.18 | Josh_Borke | without creating your own CSS for it |
| 13:27.09 | AnduinLothar | nto what I want to hear |
| 13:27.26 | Josh_Borke | :D |
| 13:27.27 | Wobin_ | which toc on the wiki? |
| 13:27.43 | Cairenn | grrrr, release the patch already :p |
| 13:28.06 | AnduinLothar | the page toc |
| 13:28.11 | Wobin_ | a patch that barks and shoots bees out of its mouth... |
| 13:28.18 | Josh_Borke | or at least makes pretty colors! |
| 13:28.22 | Cairenn | Wobin_: ROFL |
| 13:29.04 | krka|work | you can just edit the wiki i guess? |
| 13:29.12 | Josh_Borke | the TOC is auto-generated |
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| 13:29.43 | krka|work | i can't see any page toc |
| 13:29.44 | krka|work | where is it? |
| 13:29.47 | AnduinLothar | i know, i want it to auto-generate using numbers of my choosing |
| 13:30.02 | Kirkburn | I guess there will be a bit of an AH boom and crash when the servers come up. The Dungeon Tier 1 BoE prices will rocket, until people start running the instances and the price will completely crash. |
| 13:30.20 | AnduinLothar | they changed the drop place on a few |
| 13:30.33 | Wobin_ | I paid around 20somthing g for a couple of my tier 1 |
| 13:30.44 | krka|work | yay, wowwiki has adverts for selling gold |
| 13:30.51 | Kirkburn | noooo |
| 13:31.07 | Kirkburn | (I sold a Wildheart belt for 20g recently, i'm an idiot) |
| 13:31.33 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: what sort of TOC are you trying to setup? |
| 13:32.12 | AnduinLothar | version change logs |
| 13:32.15 | Kirkburn | krka|work, that's what you get for using Google ads :S |
| 13:34.10 | Josh_Borke | AnduinLothar: don't think it's possible with mediawiki |
| 13:34.12 | Kirkburn | Phew, I just realised my exam 2moro is open book |
| 13:34.18 | krka|work | what wiki are we talking about? |
| 13:34.20 | Kirkburn | It's also in italian ... |
| 13:34.27 | Kirkburn | wiki wiki waa waa |
| 13:34.42 | Wobin_ | AL: can you link us a page? |
| 13:35.46 | AnduinLothar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cosmos_Patcher_Change_Log |
| 13:36.23 | Josh_Borke | i wish the edit page would be a view source page :-( |
| 13:37.05 | Kirkburn | What about 3.0.3? |
| 13:37.09 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 13:38.28 | AnduinLothar | versions are abstract, especially when there's only one person working on it |
| 13:40.26 | Kirkburn | The version I use doesn't seem particularly abstract to me :P |
| 13:40.41 | AnduinLothar | of cours enot |
| 13:41.01 | AnduinLothar | and this is 3.5 because he made a bunch of internal changes that were never sent to anyone |
| 13:42.46 | Kirkburn | 3.5 looks like a pretty good update |
| 13:43.27 | AnduinLothar | it still has bug. I sent it back to get fixed, but I needed something to have for 1.10 that fixed the 2.2 revert |
| 13:43.31 | AnduinLothar | bugs* |
| 13:43.37 | AnduinLothar | it's usable |
| 13:43.57 | Kirkburn | Amazing, thott has done an update. |
| 13:44.24 | AnduinLothar | lots more planned, just has a timetable longer than normal |
| 13:44.32 | AnduinLothar | ya, 1.10 broke thottbot so he had to |
| 13:44.43 | AnduinLothar | he's in the middle of doing a site rewrite tho |
| 13:46.22 | Kirkburn | What's the max number of channels sky uses? |
| 13:47.19 | AnduinLothar | practically 3. not one uses the zone channel |
| 13:47.38 | AnduinLothar | 4 |
| 13:47.41 | AnduinLothar | 5 |
| 13:47.48 | Josh_Borke | 6? |
| 13:47.53 | AnduinLothar | Guild isn't used by any addons currently updated |
| 13:48.18 | AnduinLothar | Sky, SkyParty, SkyRaid, SkyZone, SkyGuild |
| 13:48.31 | Kirkburn | Ah, quite a few then |
| 13:48.45 | AnduinLothar | but currently nothing uses SkyZone at all and the only 2 i know that use SkyGuild are out of date |
| 13:49.00 | AnduinLothar | and we were thinking of merging raid and party |
| 13:49.01 | Kirkburn | So, Sky, Party and Raid |
| 13:49.05 | AnduinLothar | and nuking zone |
| 13:49.09 | Kirkburn | That sounds like a very good idea |
| 13:49.25 | AnduinLothar | just have to figure out reverse compat |
| 13:49.41 | AnduinLothar | can prolly just redirect the globals |
| 13:49.52 | AnduinLothar | since everythign SHOULD be using them |
| 13:50.12 | AnduinLothar | why do you ask? |
| 13:50.23 | Josh_Borke | they haven't updated the priest talents :-( |
| 13:52.20 | Kirkburn | Patch notes are out? |
| 13:52.44 | AnduinLothar | lol, they've been out since the test server |
| 13:53.12 | AnduinLothar | oo, someone made my download page smart, yay. the date updates using the file modified date |
| 13:59.07 | Kirkburn | Yes, I mean the proper patch notes, silly |
| 14:01.29 | Josh_Borke | channeled spells stop mana regen as soon as they start, correct? |
| 14:01.31 | Kirkburn | Jebus! The stupidity! ... "can u use clearfont 11000-1 with the current 1.9 patch ?" ... written on the LINE BELOW "Here's the new version of ClearFont (which is only compatible with 1.10)! |
| 14:01.31 | Kirkburn | " |
| 14:02.17 | Wobin_ | reply with "Ask again tomorrow" |
| 14:02.24 | [MoonWolf] | kirkburn, had a similar thing on curse, I had a "i consider this addon done, i will not add any new features, please dont ask for them" |
| 14:02.39 | [MoonWolf] | next post, could you add feature x and y. |
| 14:02.50 | Kirkburn | Makes you want to cry ... |
| 14:03.30 | Kirkburn | I mention that the new version won't work on 1.9 no less than three times on the page, and in LARGE TYPE and in BOLD TEXT |
| 14:04.00 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, i thought you were really overdoing it |
| 14:04.09 | [MoonWolf] | apperently not |
| 14:04.16 | Kirkburn | hehe |
| 14:04.50 | Kirkburn | Maybe it's ... ironic? |
| 14:05.23 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: you spelled that wrong, here, let me fix it for you |
| 14:05.32 | Cairenn | "Maybe it's ... moronic?" |
| 14:05.36 | [MoonWolf] | :P |
| 14:05.36 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 14:05.40 | Kirkburn | :P |
| 14:05.41 | Wobin_ | Don't you think? |
| 14:06.19 | Cairenn | Wobin_: heh |
| 14:06.21 | Miravlix | Only thing worth crying about is how hard Blizzard makes life for addon programmers, a bit more stability in the API would do wonders |
| 14:06.30 | Wobin_ | Mayahee, Mayahu, Mayaha.. Mayahaha! |
| 14:06.36 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 14:06.44 | Cairenn | (to wobin, not miravlix) |
| 14:07.42 | Wobin_ | PS Moonwolf, it's actually called Dragostea Din Tea, I believe... =) |
| 14:07.54 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 14:08.03 | Miravlix | There is no one that forces us to write addons and having to deal with users, so threat them with some respect. |
| 14:08.10 | [MoonWolf] | Wobin_, not my fault, online radio station (WOWradio) |
| 14:08.14 | Kirkburn | "Someone told me cosmos included some hack, like for always win roll... But I never verified by myself." |
| 14:08.27 | Wobin_ | What's the address for Wowradio? |
| 14:08.56 | Miravlix | It does include that you always win, so it's understandable people misconstruct that as being a hack |
| 14:09.27 | [MoonWolf] | http://shoutcast1.wcradio.com:8000/listen.pls or www.wowradio.com (O RLY) |
| 14:09.34 | Miravlix | It's just a testement to the awsome design and implementation that it gives it's users sutch a major advantage over non cosmos users. |
| 14:09.35 | Kirkburn | YA RLY |
| 14:09.43 | Kirkburn | Indeed, Miravlix :P |
| 14:10.34 | Miravlix | You where the one saying it, not me. I'm just agreeing with you. |
| 14:11.44 | Wobin_ | Alas. |
| 14:11.48 | Wobin_ | I'm cut off from WoWRadio |
| 14:12.44 | AnduinLothar | Cosmos Patcher 3.5 is avail fro download |
| 14:12.52 | AnduinLothar | 1.10 Cosmos soon... |
| 14:15.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cide (i=Cide@81-226-233-5-no60.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 14:15.47 | AnduinLothar | heya cide |
| 14:15.48 | Kirkburn | Boo yaa! |
| 14:15.52 | Kirkburn | Ciao |
| 14:15.54 | Cairenn | hey Cide |
| 14:16.06 | Cide | hi |
| 14:16.19 | AnduinLothar | CT good to go? |
| 14:16.24 | Cide | mostly |
| 14:16.26 | Cide | I hope |
| 14:16.52 | AnduinLothar | ya, wish test server was still up... tho there's not much point since it would be overrun |
| 14:16.55 | Cairenn | updated at WoWI as well? |
| 14:17.05 | Cairenn | (for my listing) |
| 14:17.19 | Cide | CT? no, I'm doing the final changes right now |
| 14:17.25 | Cairenn | kk |
| 14:17.36 | AnduinLothar | if it weren't for the last minute |
| 14:17.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:17.52 | Cairenn | we'd never get anything done |
| 14:17.55 | krka|work | you people are way too stressed, let your users wait a day or two |
| 14:18.08 | Cide | can't do that, sorry :) |
| 14:18.18 | AnduinLothar | not if you want to keep users.. |
| 14:18.24 | AnduinLothar | and stay slightly sane |
| 14:18.26 | Kirkburn | This is very true |
| 14:18.40 | krka|work | what does sanity has to do with it? |
| 14:18.53 | AnduinLothar | i'm anti-complaint recieving |
| 14:19.32 | Kirkburn | Grayhoof has already got 6 complaints from people saying SCT 4.1 doesn't work on 1.10 ... much like me has also has big bold messages saying it won't bloody work! |
| 14:19.34 | [MoonWolf] | krka|work, nothing , but we act like we have some of it left. |
| 14:20.11 | Miravlix | You mean 1.9? |
| 14:20.40 | Kirkburn | Nope, 1.10. he put up the new version a couple of hours ago .... I'm wondering when someone will ask about my 'Discord' override. |
| 14:21.00 | Cide | thank god for BeyondCompare |
| 14:21.01 | Kirkburn | (it's evident that they're all EU users) |
| 14:21.15 | AnduinLothar | bc? |
| 14:21.21 | AnduinLothar | opendiff? |
| 14:21.39 | Cide | opendiff? it's a diff progrma yes |
| 14:21.41 | Cide | program* |
| 14:21.56 | Cide | with a very sweet file editor |
| 14:22.31 | krka|work | there's no real point in itself to have many users |
| 14:22.42 | krka|work | since you're all doing it without pay |
| 14:23.03 | AnduinLothar | power and fame? |
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| 14:25.38 | Kirkburn | Yay, idiot commenter has edited his comment and even given me his 1.9 error report |
| 14:25.40 | Cide | in any case, beyondcompare owns :) |
| 14:27.05 | krka|work | what's that? |
| 14:27.20 | Cide | diff program where you can edit the files *very* easily |
| 14:27.36 | krka|work | ah |
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| 14:30.45 | Cide | http://imagelink.org/temp/153 for example |
| 14:31.09 | Cide | not the best image quality, but you get the point! |
| 14:33.00 | Kirkburn | sexy |
| 14:33.02 | Cide | there are probably other programs that to the same thing though |
| 14:33.26 | krka|work | so... it's like svn merge, only manual |
| 14:33.40 | Cide | maybe? |
| 14:34.16 | Cide | I wouldn't like having a program merge two files automatically, myself |
| 14:34.23 | Cide | but I'm not sure how good it works |
| 14:34.26 | krka|work | i love this: local unitStats = CT_RA_Stats[nick]; if ( not unitStats ) then unitStats = CT_RA_Stats[nick]; end |
| 14:34.33 | krka|work | if it fails the first time, try one more time! |
| 14:34.40 | Cide | haha |
| 14:34.53 | Cide | yeah, that's nice |
| 14:35.12 | Cide | actually it doesn't state that in the code |
| 14:35.25 | Cide | it initializes the table if that's the case |
| 14:35.42 | krka|work | ah... there's a line there |
| 14:35.48 | krka|work | so it just happened to look funny |
| 14:35.55 | Cide | yeah :) |
| 14:36.14 | Cide | would've been a nice way to solve the problem though! |
| 14:36.57 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:41.11 | s|loup | can i pack a variable like this: var2 = var1 or functiontogetvar1(); ? |
| 14:41.44 | s|loup | so if var1 is nil then do functiontogetvar1 ? |
| 14:41.59 | krka|work | yes |
| 14:42.16 | s|loup | the function will only be called if var1 is nil ? |
| 14:42.20 | krka|work | yes |
| 14:42.24 | s|loup | wonderful :D |
| 14:42.31 | krka|work | exactly equivalent to: |
| 14:42.48 | krka|work | if var1 then var2 = var1 else var2 = functiontogetvar1() end |
| 14:43.05 | s|loup | ok thanks |
| 14:43.14 | krka|work | as in, they will both compile to the same bytecode |
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| 14:45.02 | malreth | woo hoo hoo hoooooo |
| 14:45.16 | malreth | patch days are FUN! |
| 14:45.29 | Cairenn | heh |
| 14:45.34 | Cairenn | hey malreth |
| 14:45.42 | malreth | it's raining cats and felhounds today in Austin |
| 14:45.58 | malreth | so i'm not gonna visit my other sites on campus |
| 14:46.21 | malreth | cuz it's too damn wet |
| 14:46.42 | malreth | i rushed here today only to find out my coworker on this project is out sick |
| 14:46.48 | malreth | i coulda stayed home! |
| 14:47.26 | malreth | but i got to watch lightning strike a transformer while driving. that was cool! |
| 14:47.32 | malreth | it was loud, too! BOOM! |
| 14:47.44 | malreth | and sparks flew and everything! |
| 14:48.00 | Cairenn | it would be (loud) |
| 14:48.20 | Cide | I don't like patches :( |
| 14:48.47 | Cairenn | still can't *get* the patch |
| 14:48.50 | malreth | have you tried chewing gum? |
| 14:48.59 | Cide | I doubt it will help |
| 14:49.05 | malreth | hypnosis? |
| 14:49.06 | Cide | yeah Cairenn, I wanted to get it too but couldn't |
| 14:49.14 | Cide | that would be directly counter-productive :) |
| 14:49.20 | malreth | acupuncture? |
| 14:49.26 | Cide | also counter-productive |
| 14:49.29 | malreth | smoking? |
| 14:49.31 | Cairenn | Cide: he's making a joke about trying to quit smoking, using the patch vs gum vs hynosis vs acupuncture |
| 14:49.40 | Cide | haha, I'm not being too serious |
| 14:49.50 | malreth | cair: you put "trying" in the wrong part of the sentence. |
| 14:49.53 | malreth | :) |
| 14:49.54 | Cide | and smoking is directly unhealthy! |
| 14:50.07 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 14:50.32 | Cairenn | come on come on! sheesh |
| 14:50.42 | AnduinLothar | eating is good, i should do some of that |
| 14:50.47 | malreth | cide was being a perfect straight-man |
| 14:50.53 | AnduinLothar | and get myself that shirt too |
| 14:50.54 | Cairenn | indeed he was |
| 14:51.09 | Cairenn | what shirt? |
| 14:51.12 | malreth | time for the punchline. And a "straight" man he is at that! |
| 14:51.19 | malreth | [applause] |
| 14:51.30 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 14:51.43 | AnduinLothar | "Don't Forget To Eat" mirrored with this bellow: "Not in-game food either" |
| 14:52.04 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: heh |
| 14:52.14 | AnduinLothar | so i can see it in the reflection from a particularly glaring crt |
| 14:52.50 | malreth | i feel i may do something rash and drastic later today |
| 14:53.00 | AnduinLothar | like not play wow? |
| 14:53.46 | malreth | i might... *gasp* try to get malreth up to lv 45. |
| 14:54.20 | s|loup | are there any differences in using 'for k,v in t do ... end' instead of 'for k,v in pairs(t) do ... end' ? |
| 14:54.35 | malreth | they translate into different instructions |
| 14:54.46 | malreth | the latter has an extra function call at the setup of the loop |
| 14:54.54 | AnduinLothar | not really, cept they claim the first is deprecated |
| 14:55.11 | malreth | yeah, other than that, functionally they are the same |
| 14:55.15 | AnduinLothar | however the first actually makes for less byte-code.. |
| 14:55.25 | s|loup | so pairs() should be used ? |
| 14:55.32 | AnduinLothar | technically |
| 14:55.38 | malreth | if you're a goodie goodie programmer, yeah |
| 14:55.44 | s|loup | ^^ |
| 14:55.47 | AnduinLothar | but they wont get me to change until they break it |
| 14:56.13 | malreth | but bad-boy programmers turn their nose up at that word, "deprecated" and think, "deprecated means still working!" |
| 14:56.30 | AnduinLothar | deprecated means more coding |
| 14:57.08 | malreth | there's a way to get the exact bytecode of the former method using non-deprecated functions |
| 14:57.16 | AnduinLothar | hmm, I'm almost tempted to update my addons.... |
| 14:57.32 | AnduinLothar | meh.... who needs users |
| 14:58.05 | Kemayo|sleep | Remember: Updating your addons makes them look more popular by download count! |
| 14:58.11 | Crispix | *Tear* |
| 14:58.18 | AnduinLothar | oh right.. |
| 14:58.19 | Crispix | I can't check if I won my auction |
| 14:58.31 | AnduinLothar | damn.. no wonder mine aren't popular |
| 14:58.36 | Kirkburn | Heh |
| 14:58.37 | s|loup | lol |
| 14:58.56 | AnduinLothar | should i give curse the boot today? |
| 14:59.10 | AnduinLothar | tempting.. |
| 14:59.43 | AnduinLothar | mmm, the minimal wowi's kinda cute |
| 14:59.47 | malreth | for k, v in next, t do ... end |
| 15:00.25 | Cairenn | AnduinLothar: cool, glad you like |
| 15:00.30 | malreth | that is what you can use if you want to iterate over 't' the same way that pairs() does without using pairs() |
| 15:00.33 | AnduinLothar | meh, can't update Arch yet... it breaks SimpleHTML |
| 15:00.47 | Cairenn | it's an option that you can have the site always look like that |
| 15:01.04 | AnduinLothar | spose i should up MF tho |
| 15:01.16 | Josh_Borke | anyone have a link to the new priest talents? |
| 15:01.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm looks like i forgot to put mf on wowi |
| 15:02.37 | Josh_Borke | nvm, found it :D |
| 15:03.37 | malreth | i'm looking forward to the weather effects |
| 15:04.02 | malreth | and being able to programmatically create frames |
| 15:04.11 | malreth | those two, really |
| 15:05.13 | AnduinLothar | i like the new flypaths and rep options |
| 15:05.16 | Cairenn | well crap ... |
| 15:05.25 | Cairenn | I'm out for a couple hours |
| 15:05.31 | malreth | oh noes! |
| 15:05.42 | Cairenn | had really hoped to have the patch downloaded and the notes posted on WoWI before I had to go |
| 15:05.45 | Cairenn | later ... |
| 15:05.46 | krka|work | i usually finish crapping in a matter of minutes |
| 15:05.57 | Kirkburn | byee |
| 15:06.02 | malreth | lol |
| 15:06.57 | Cide | err, I just realized I forgot to update the .toc |
| 15:07.02 | Cide | what's the interface number? :P |
| 15:07.09 | malreth | 11000 |
| 15:07.17 | Cide | on live? |
| 15:07.18 | AnduinLothar | gj |
| 15:07.25 | Cide | yeah, nicely done eh? :) |
| 15:07.33 | malreth | 10900 was the last one |
| 15:07.38 | AnduinLothar | 11000 was on test and will be live as soon as the servers are |
| 15:07.50 | Cide | glad they adapted some sort of system |
| 15:07.59 | Cide | I guess the old one had a system too, but it wasn't very clear :) |
| 15:08.14 | AnduinLothar | it was based on internal revision numbering |
| 15:08.16 | Cide | thanks malreth |
| 15:08.22 | Cide | I kind of figured, but this one is easier |
| 15:09.19 | malreth | version, buildnum, builddate = GetBuildInfo() |
| 15:09.30 | malreth | that's getting added today... |
| 15:10.13 | malreth | i never tested that... does version return the UI version number? |
| 15:10.41 | malreth | i figure buildnum and builddate will change with every single mini-patch |
| 15:10.49 | Cide | I think so |
| 15:10.59 | Cide | that will be nice though |
| 15:11.09 | Cide | an easy way to add patch compatibility |
| 15:11.43 | Cide | I had to resort to "if ( newFunction ) then -- patched ..." a few times |
| 15:12.56 | Kirkburn | That's a good point, you could code the addon to switch modes after a patch |
| 15:13.06 | Cide | yep |
| 15:13.10 | malreth | well, cide's method worked before |
| 15:13.19 | Cide | yeah, it was just a rather "ugly" way :) |
| 15:14.00 | Kirkburn | Open Notepad, edit toc? |
| 15:14.54 | malreth | i'm gonna be progressive... I'll release 11000 AND 11100 version addons today |
| 15:15.05 | malreth | well, when i say 'addons' i really mean 'addon' |
| 15:15.19 | malreth | i should probably release a couple more... |
| 15:15.44 | malreth | i have this one addon I wrote that takes panoramic screenshots. |
| 15:16.01 | malreth | you just press a button and 'blip' 'blip' 'blip' it takes screenshots |
| 15:16.10 | malreth | then you just stitch them together |
| 15:16.14 | Crispix | heh.. |
| 15:16.33 | Crispix | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=9854 <-- I think I won one of these (of the monkey) for 50 silver :D |
| 15:16.33 | Wobin_ | Hehe that's very cool |
| 15:16.58 | Wobin_ | Can you get a 360deg view, malreth? |
| 15:17.50 | malreth | I could.. but for now it just takes 5 shots... I could bump it up to 6 to cover 360 deg |
| 15:18.04 | malreth | the 5 shot one is already impressive enough though |
| 15:18.12 | malreth | and there's the practicality of it |
| 15:18.23 | malreth | i have to delay each screenshot by 1 sec |
| 15:18.47 | malreth | because the filename that is written out is something like screenshot-date-time.tga |
| 15:19.01 | malreth | take them any faster and they start overwriting each other |
| 15:19.45 | Crispix | Can anyone tell me something...? |
| 15:19.47 | Crispix | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049 |
| 15:20.00 | Crispix | With my reputation as it is with IronForge.. will my mount cost less? |
| 15:20.06 | malreth | oh, Crispix? he sucks... |
| 15:20.19 | malreth | i once beat him-- oh... that's you! |
| 15:20.49 | malreth | you need to be honored to get the 10% discount |
| 15:21.24 | malreth | :D |
| 15:21.39 | Crispix | o_o; |
| 15:21.42 | Crispix | Honored? |
| 15:21.49 | Crispix | How much mroe questing do I have to do? |
| 15:21.53 | malreth | it's easy. just quest for it |
| 15:22.14 | malreth | i think i was honored with my home factions by 25 just by questing |
| 15:22.39 | Crispix | o_o; I'm 34!!! |
| 15:22.49 | malreth | my GF is trying to get exalted with darnassus and she's almost revered at 22 |
| 15:22.56 | malreth | or something |
| 15:23.01 | malreth | well, she's at least honored |
| 15:23.16 | malreth | but she's doing every single quest that they offer |
| 15:23.49 | malreth | she tries to get them done when they're orange or yellow but she even goes back to get the green ones done |
| 15:23.55 | Crispix | meep. time for me to get dressed for work.. (Got called in 5 hours extra today.. more money for the puter :D) |
| 15:24.06 | malreth | she really wants that cat mount |
| 15:24.46 | Crispix | I really want my white or brown (can't decide yet) Ram.. |
| 15:25.06 | malreth | she just bought her epic mount on her main last night. she's happy |
| 15:25.15 | Crispix | I've got a Silver cat, and a white polar bear as my pet.... |
| 15:25.41 | malreth | you need to get the sewer beast. a white crocolisk |
| 15:26.06 | malreth | she's specced hers for MC lava packs |
| 15:26.30 | malreth | it's got fire resist and stam out the wazoo |
| 15:26.35 | Wobin_ | Man, the sewer beast is hard to find |
| 15:26.47 | malreth | it took her about a couple weeks to finally get it |
| 15:26.51 | Crispix | http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ScreenShot.aspx?ImageIndex=1&Set=56 |
| 15:27.02 | Crispix | Not sure which color I should go with. :| |
| 15:27.04 | Wobin_ | I would only be able to do it once 1.9 came out =P |
| 15:27.17 | Wobin_ | else I'd have been bored to tears waiting in SW =P |
| 15:28.01 | malreth | she just checked 1-3 times a day. no use in camping the canals for it |
| 15:28.18 | malreth | ` |
| 15:28.32 | malreth | when she was done for the day, she'd hearth back to SW, check real fast, log. |
| 15:28.49 | Adrine | Morning, folks. |
| 15:28.52 | malreth | when she logged back in, she'd check again real quick, play, hearth back, check, log out, repeat |
| 15:28.56 | Adrine | Also, happy birthday to me. :) |
| 15:29.07 | malreth | happy birthday! |
| 15:29.32 | Josh_Borke | happy birthday adrine! |
| 15:29.37 | Josh_Borke | you get patch 1.10 today! |
| 15:29.43 | malreth | yay! |
| 15:29.47 | Crispix | heh |
| 15:29.49 | Miravlix | My kondolences, one less of your life. |
| 15:29.50 | malreth | a patch! |
| 15:30.02 | Crispix | yeah.. I was just about to say you get 1.10 on your birfday.. but I was putting my shirt on :P |
| 15:30.06 | malreth | (return it and get a real gift) |
| 15:30.07 | Adrine | It's my birthday patch :) |
| 15:30.26 | Wobin_ | What are you turning today, Ad? |
| 15:30.49 | Adrine | 23 |
| 15:30.50 | Crispix | Does anyone know if you can turn the weather effects off in 1.10? |
| 15:30.56 | Wobin_ | You can |
| 15:30.58 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 15:31.02 | Crispix | Thank God.. |
| 15:31.09 | Crispix | my poor puter might not be able to handle it |
| 15:31.12 | malreth | there's even a slider for intensity, right? |
| 15:32.18 | Crispix | k.. does anyone know how much space 1.10 is going to need on a hard drive? |
| 15:32.38 | Kirkburn | It's a tiny patch |
| 15:32.41 | Kirkburn | About 25meg |
| 15:32.47 | Crispix | o_O |
| 15:32.48 | Adrine | Not a content patch, for the most part. |
| 15:32.51 | Crispix | Your kidding... |
| 15:33.02 | Crispix | woo. |
| 15:33.02 | Kirkburn | The test realm patch was 23.something |
| 15:33.03 | malreth | isn't that like asking how much the otoro sushi costs at a sushi bar? |
| 15:33.05 | Crispix | Cool. |
| 15:33.08 | malreth | if you have to ask... |
| 15:33.16 | malreth | you probably need more space. :) |
| 15:33.16 | Cide | there you go Cairenn|afk (I know you're afk, but still!) |
| 15:33.28 | Kirkburn | Also, happy birthday Adrine |
| 15:33.32 | Cide | I've updated all mods on wowi |
| 15:33.33 | Adrine | Thanks, Kirkburn :) |
| 15:34.31 | Crispix | hrm...... Dare I risk entering the hunter forum.... or will I be exposed to 'OMG HUNTERZ WERE NURFEDZORED!!' threads all over the place :( |
| 15:35.12 | malreth | urge to flame... rising... |
| 15:35.36 | Crispix | malreth You need to understand, I'm one for change. I'm excited about it |
| 15:36.00 | Kirkburn | You can't log into the forums atm |
| 15:36.09 | malreth | i know... but some days i just want to lay into people for all the 'the sky is falling' 'wolf' 'wolf' stuff that they yell |
| 15:36.18 | malreth | it's not you... |
| 15:36.27 | Kirkburn | I stand corrected, it seems to have opened again |
| 15:36.37 | malreth | ooh! time to go flaming people! |
| 15:36.47 | Adrine | malreth, I don't think we'll ever be rid of it. |
| 15:36.49 | Kirkburn | Er, I'm looking at the wrong forums ;) |
| 15:37.08 | Kirkburn | if you log in now the patch will download! |
| 15:37.10 | malreth | oh... [takes finger off the login button at the mage forums] |
| 15:38.07 | Adrine | Well, it's 1.10 day, and no one took my WSG challenge. :( |
| 15:39.04 | AnduinLothar | downloading update... |
| 15:39.09 | Crispix | what challenge? |
| 15:39.31 | L|Elviso | finally we can update |
| 15:39.57 | Adrine | I got sick of people on my realm forums bitching about flag pickup mods, so I put up a 500g bounty for the first person able to demonstrate a flag pickup mod (ie, not third party program). No one took me up on it. I'm so disappointed and shocked that no one was able to produce one! ;) |
| 15:40.09 | malreth | no one ever posts the mac patcher... BT protocol is banned from work so I can never patch when i'm on campus |
| 15:40.16 | malreth | that makes malreth a sad panda |
| 15:40.25 | L|Elviso | Adrine: probably afraid it was a trap and they'd get banned |
| 15:40.30 | Crispix | hrm... |
| 15:40.32 | Crispix | Malrath... |
| 15:40.38 | Adrine | L|Elviso: Or it could be the fact that, you know, it doesn't exist. |
| 15:40.44 | Crispix | If you link me to where I can get you the patch, I Can send it to you via normal transfer |
| 15:40.53 | AnduinLothar | it should automaticly start an http download if bt fails or a firewall is found |
| 15:40.55 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron (i=khamer@student2a-64.unh.edu) |
| 15:41.02 | Ktron | Anyone know of any mirrors of the patch up yet? |
| 15:41.04 | Kirkburn | You can turn off P2P |
| 15:41.06 | Crispix | !Topic 1.10 is here!! :D |
| 15:41.11 | L|Elviso | Adrine: That might be true, but that's not the point I was trying to make :) |
| 15:41.12 | Kirkburn | Thw wiki will probably have them first |
| 15:42.05 | malreth | oh wait... i know of a way |
| 15:42.22 | Kirkburn | Turn off P2P? |
| 15:42.27 | malreth | i can start the game, get the downloader, extract the .torrent, remote desktop back home, download it there |
| 15:42.35 | Kirkburn | Or turn off P2P |
| 15:42.57 | malreth | bah, that's not enough of a hack |
| 15:43.00 | Kirkburn | (btw, the mirrors will likely turn up here before long http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors) |
| 15:43.15 | AnduinLothar | should be interesting having to 10 man ubrs now.. |
| 15:43.19 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Osagasu (n=Kronus@rhhe10-109.2wcm.comporium.net) |
| 15:43.32 | malreth | DLing the torrent using utorrent is probably faster anyway |
| 15:43.54 | Crispix | you know what.. |
| 15:43.57 | Crispix | Your probably right... |
| 15:44.08 | Crispix | I hsould cancel this and try canceling my patch |
| 15:44.15 | Crispix | errr |
| 15:44.20 | Crispix | try my new torrent progra |
| 15:44.21 | Crispix | m |
| 15:44.57 | AnduinLothar | *Added support for widescreen video resolutions. Anyone tested that? |
| 15:45.07 | Adrine | Wasn't that already in? |
| 15:45.10 | Crispix | I might |
| 15:45.16 | Crispix | I've got 2 monitors |
| 15:45.18 | AnduinLothar | normal widescreen were |
| 15:45.19 | Adrine | Unless I've been playing in 4:3 for the past few months and didn't notice. |
| 15:45.19 | malreth | it means doublewide resolutions |
| 15:45.27 | AnduinLothar | these are for dual monitor setups |
| 15:45.29 | malreth | like 2048x768 |
| 15:45.31 | Adrine | Aha, ok |
| 15:45.39 | Adrine | <-- 1920x1200 |
| 15:45.39 | Ktron | dual monitors is spectactular |
| 15:45.51 | Ktron | 1280x1024 + 1024x768 |
| 15:46.14 | Crispix | http://andy.hadagoodday.com/images/desktops/Spring22307Vista.jpg |
| 15:46.20 | Crispix | Take a looksee there :D |
| 15:46.38 | Ktron | I have 2,097,152 pixels in view :) |
| 15:46.43 | Crispix | Dast is my desktop :D |
| 15:47.08 | Kirkburn | Finally I have seen a WoW sandstorm! Looks quite nice |
| 15:47.16 | Ktron | Crispix, conversion, Windowblinds, StyleXP, or uxtheme.dll hack? |
| 15:47.19 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Eraphine|Lab (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 15:47.29 | Ktron | Kirkburn, are you on a server? |
| 15:47.34 | Adrine | I'm all about the uxtheme :) |
| 15:47.36 | Crispix | UxTheme.dll hack :) |
| 15:47.40 | Kirkburn | Nope, from a vid |
| 15:47.56 | Ktron | good good me too... I just did did my desktop, one sec i'll upload a snapshot |
| 15:47.59 | Crispix | I plan on doing it to my new machine too... |
| 15:48.09 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Eraphine|Disco (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 15:48.13 | Crispix | me <3s this vista theme |
| 15:48.25 | Kirkburn | Crispix, I thought there was a higher res version of that background |
| 15:48.42 | Crispix | Kirkburn belive it or not it's actually not the desktop your thinking it is... |
| 15:48.50 | Crispix | It's not bliss by microsoft.. it's by someone else |
| 15:49.07 | AnduinLothar | "As a reminder, white recipes can be purchased from a vendor somewhere in the world, so players should not pay too much for them at the Auction House." |
| 15:49.18 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Crispix (n=Crispy@c-24-7-241-103.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 15:49.41 | AnduinLothar | on another note... 'copy' now works int he patcher app |
| 15:49.52 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Crispix (n=Crispy@c-24-7-241-103.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 15:50.02 | Crispix | wooops |
| 15:50.05 | Crispix | wrong button.. |
| 15:50.11 | Crispix | ANyway..: Kirkburn: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24476482/ |
| 15:50.12 | AnduinLothar | "? New high level World Drop epic recipes have been added for Hammersmiths, Swordsmiths and Armorsmiths." Can't wait to see those.. |
| 15:50.23 | Ktron | http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot20ar.jpg though, you can't see Launchy in that screenshot... heh, launchy is _key_ |
| 15:50.41 | Cide | I know the names of them, just not the stats :) |
| 15:50.56 | Crispix | Someone uses pandora :D |
| 15:50.58 | Kirkburn | Lol, I know Crispix ... it's either the spring or summer one |
| 15:51.25 | Ktron | I use pandora a ton... I wish there was a way I could see how much time I've logged on pandora |
| 15:51.30 | Crispix | ... what messenger is that Ktron???/ |
| 15:52.23 | AnduinLothar | wow... the UI changes are gargantuan... |
| 15:52.30 | Crispix | really? |
| 15:52.31 | Crispix | lemme see!! |
| 15:52.36 | Crispix | please?! |
| 15:52.40 | malreth | bah... the download was goign great at 250kb/s... then all the peers dropped off the face of the planet |
| 15:52.44 | Ktron | Pandora, Launchy, uxtheme.dll hack, Googledesktop panels (but not the search heh), just got Clock Tray Skins (because I'm trying the start menu up top thing)... Clearlooks vs, the instant messenger is Gaim 2 beta 2 |
| 15:52.45 | Kirkburn | Crispix isn't this better for you? http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24425297/ |
| 15:53.08 | Ktron | Plus I have a GTK theme pack with a switcher, so I pick a theme for Gaim (and GIMP) to match my suite |
| 15:53.13 | AnduinLothar | 168 lines of UI change log |
| 15:53.42 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 15:53.44 | Crispix | Kirkburn :nod: Thats what I use... I Just have the single desktop thing as my 'bookmakr' |
| 15:53.48 | Crispix | Clock Tray Skins.. you say? |
| 15:54.05 | Crispix | I was looking for something to change the way my clock would look in xp |
| 15:54.29 | Crispix | Where can you get themes for it? |
| 15:54.34 | Ktron | Yeah, just found it this morning... claims to have over 100 skins in the default install... It might actually have it too, and it have some nice simple options |
| 15:54.52 | Crispix | I hope it has something that looks.. vista-esq |
| 15:54.57 | Ktron | I don't know if there's other skins kicking around |
| 15:55.04 | Ktron | I'm sure it does |
| 15:55.14 | Crispix | well.. we shall see. |
| 15:55.26 | Crispix | I've got 45 minutes to muck and f-ck with it :P |
| 15:55.32 | Adrine | http://tachyonsix.com/desktop_328.jpg |
| 15:55.36 | Adrine | That's my current setup |
| 15:55.44 | Adrine | (Someone in here linked the XP skin. Love it.) |
| 15:55.57 | Kirkburn | <-- |
| 15:56.01 | Crispix | You mean the vista skin Adrine? |
| 15:56.03 | Ktron | But if I'm going to plug any app, all of my votes go into http://launchy.net/ -- It's got to be the most useful program ever in my eyes |
| 15:56.15 | Adrine | Well, it's a theme compatible with XP. :) |
| 15:56.17 | Kirkburn | Well, Thallos |
| 15:56.21 | Ktron | Adrine, Xenes VS? |
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| 15:56.27 | AnduinLothar | i haven't modded my desktop much at all since I started wow modding.. |
| 15:56.29 | Adrine | Thallos is it |
| 15:56.31 | Ktron | oh, its thallos |
| 15:56.32 | Ktron | yeah |
| 15:56.46 | Adrine | I'd actually been running Litestep for a while, but just recently switched back |
| 15:56.51 | Crispix | http://launchy.net/ ?? |
| 15:56.51 | Ktron | Adrine, I see you like your quick launch |
| 15:57.00 | Adrine | Ktron: Yes, quite a bit. :) |
| 15:57.01 | L|Elviso | Adrine: i think i recognize that wallpaper |
| 15:57.09 | Ktron | Crispix, yeah, should work? |
| 15:57.19 | L|Elviso | endeffect.com? |
| 15:57.27 | Kirkburn | it says TRENDWHORE on the right hand side of the wallpaper! |
| 15:57.44 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Eraphine|Disco (n=Eraphine@brenna.human.cornell.edu) |
| 15:57.45 | wereHamster | why don't you download the patch with another bittorernt client? I've found azureus to be much faster than the blizzard downloader.. |
| 15:57.52 | Adrine | >_> |
| 15:57.58 | malreth | i was... i use utorrent |
| 15:58.25 | Kirkburn | iTorrent? |
| 15:58.25 | malreth | but i guess there might have been a problem with the old version i was using. i just updated and it's back up to 160kb/s |
| 15:58.38 | malreth | and climbing... almost up to 200kb/s |
| 15:58.45 | wereHamster | I've written a script that extracts the torrent file from the downloader and starts ctorrent .. |
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| 15:58.47 | Kirkburn | It's 24.4 |
| 15:58.56 | Crispix | ooh |
| 15:59.01 | Crispix | I had a program like launchy |
| 15:59.15 | Adrine | wereHamster: I just used ResHack :) |
| 15:59.19 | Ktron | Launchy, you start typing characters (in the correct order, but not necessarily consectutive) in the name of the app you want to launch, and it tries to guess it... it has a hotkey to appear/disappear, and enter runs the program it has guessed... so firefox for me, I just hit alt-space, type 'fire' and hit enter |
| 15:59.21 | malreth | i need a link to the PC .torrent |
| 15:59.26 | Adrine | Dunno if that still works - seem to remember them obfuscating that at some point |
| 15:59.29 | Ktron | filezilla is alt-space, 'fz' and enter |
| 15:59.30 | Ktron | etc |
| 15:59.30 | Adrine | But it worked well enough in the past |
| 15:59.44 | Ktron | Crispix, AppRocket? |
| 15:59.49 | Crispix | not sure |
| 16:00.11 | Ktron | AppRocket is a shareware equivalent, but I like Launchy better, and then there's Quicksilver for Macs heh |
| 16:00.14 | Crispix | Kirkburn What was the little program with the buttions with the 'Del.io.us' thing on the top? |
| 16:00.26 | Josh_Borke | where's the torrent? |
| 16:00.46 | wereHamster | dbservice.com/tom/downloadPatches.sh <= this one extracts the torrent files from all downloaders in the current directory.. oh what it took me to find out the proper hexdump format :) |
| 16:00.48 | Kirkburn | Crispix, I know not of what you speak |
| 16:01.07 | Crispix | someones thing has a 'delicous' bar at the top |
| 16:01.11 | malreth | well, the problem is i only have access to my home pc through a remote desktop connection. can't launch wow to get the downloader. |
| 16:01.16 | Ktron | Crispix, oh, maybe me? |
| 16:01.23 | Crispix | yah... |
| 16:01.24 | L|Elviso | filezilla is the best |
| 16:01.24 | Crispix | lol |
| 16:01.33 | Ktron | Right next to a 'To Do' thing? |
| 16:01.34 | malreth | otherwise, it'd extract it myself |
| 16:01.42 | Ktron | It's Google Desktop's panels/plugins |
| 16:01.56 | Ktron | There's a few in the ss |
| 16:01.58 | Kirkburn | :) I'm off to revise more (after some scrubs) Tara |
| 16:02.13 | Ktron | I don't use the desktop search, but I like having some desktop widgets kicking around |
| 16:02.29 | Crispix | Previously, quest experience was wasted if one completed a quest at level 60. In this patch, any quests done at maximum level will have their experience reward converted to a healthy amount of gold, thus adding additional incentive to completing those quests in your log once you hit 60. |
| 16:02.29 | Crispix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.30 | Adrine | I've yet to find a suite of truly useful desktop widgets. |
| 16:02.52 | Adrine | I think the conversion rate is something like 1 copper per 6 XP? |
| 16:02.57 | Crispix | YAYYYYY FINAL DESTINATION FLIGHT PATHS WAS ADDED!!! *squeeeeee* |
| 16:03.32 | Kirkburn|Werk | What, you get killed in a series of teen horror movies? |
| 16:03.49 | Crispix | Trying to spoof item links will disconnect you. <-- BRAVO! |
| 16:03.49 | Ktron | Adrine, I used to use AveDesk and replaced all of my desktop icons... I'm trying out google's panels for a little bit to see how they are-- I really only care about a todo list, maybe an notepad, and maybe a couple others that seem useful |
| 16:04.02 | malreth | those teens in those movies are HOTT! |
| 16:04.41 | Ktron | like, I'd love a pandora widget that would shrink it down and put it on the desktop, and the del.icio.us links I have there are set to a tag I use to group my most frequently used links, so it just saves me a step |
| 16:04.52 | Adrine | From General Drakkisath: |
| 16:04.52 | Adrine | Draconic Infused Emblem |
| 16:04.52 | Adrine | Trinket, BoP, Requires level 58 |
| 16:04.52 | Adrine | Increases spell damage by 100 and healing by 190 for 15 seconds |
| 16:04.52 | Adrine | 1 minute 15 second cooldown |
| 16:04.54 | Adrine | ... |
| 16:05.04 | Ktron | that's awesome |
| 16:05.14 | Adrine | So everyone and their mother will be running around with a mini-ToEP. |
| 16:05.20 | malreth | wewt... more mage loot |
| 16:05.29 | Eraphine|Lab | wowinterface still holding up :) |
| 16:05.41 | Ktron | wowi is always the most prepared for patch days heh |
| 16:05.43 | Adrine | http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=53945&ForumID=247911&TabID=471493&TopicID=2262589 |
| 16:05.47 | Adrine | Lots of new interesting loot. |
| 16:05.52 | Crispix | Hunter traps now use the same rules as stealth rather than being invisible. Detect Trap has been changed to reflect this. <-- wow. |
| 16:05.57 | Adrine | Looks like it's mostly caster stuff. |
| 16:06.06 | Adrine | So what does Detect Traps do now? |
| 16:06.15 | Crispix | God knows.. lmao |
| 16:06.21 | Ktron | I imagine just boosts your chance to see them |
| 16:06.25 | Adrine | Bleh. |
| 16:06.37 | Adrine | If that's how it was changed, yay nerfs. |
| 16:07.03 | Crispix | You can now click on a faction in the reputation pane to get additional details/options. <--- Cooooool |
| 16:07.13 | Eraphine|Lab | Hey Cide, are those new additions to wowinterface the 1.10 compatible CTMod Addons? |
| 16:07.39 | Adrine | From Hurley Blackbreath: |
| 16:07.39 | Adrine | Coal Miner’s Boots: |
| 16:07.39 | Adrine | Leather Boots |
| 16:07.39 | Adrine | Requires Level 52 |
| 16:07.39 | Adrine | +9 Strength |
| 16:07.40 | Adrine | +17 Stamina |
| 16:07.41 | Kirkburn|Werk | Yes |
| 16:07.42 | Adrine | +10 Fire Resistance |
| 16:07.44 | Adrine | Now rare. |
| 16:07.47 | Josh_Borke | i like the band of mending |
| 16:07.50 | Adrine | Awesome. |
| 16:08.20 | Kirkburn|Werk | Detect Traps will only show traps that you have a high enough skill to disarm |
| 16:08.22 | Crispix | woah. New flight points :O |
| 16:08.23 | Cide | Eraphine|Lab: yes |
| 16:08.35 | Crispix | Stonetalon Peak and Astranaar <-- bout damn time |
| 16:08.36 | Adrine | Kirkburn|Werk: Oh, that's stupid. |
| 16:08.45 | Adrine | Blah. |
| 16:08.53 | Kirkburn|Werk | I think that's it anyway |
| 16:08.59 | Adrine | So now you can't even avoid 'em even if you can't disarm em? |
| 16:09.33 | Ktron | I think being able to switch your XP bar to displaying rep is pretty slick |
| 16:10.14 | Ktron | Now they just need to release 41 more classes and 16 more races |
| 16:10.34 | Adrine | From The Emberseer: |
| 16:10.34 | Adrine | Wildfire Cape |
| 16:10.34 | Adrine | Back |
| 16:10.34 | Adrine | +20 Fire Resistance |
| 16:10.35 | Adrine | Now rare. |
| 16:10.38 | Adrine | Holy mother of crap, wow. |
| 16:11.00 | Ktron | Maybe I'll toss up a mirror of WoW 1.10 for the channel only |
| 16:11.03 | malreth | oh nice |
| 16:11.21 | malreth | that'll be a nice cape until people get their onyxia cloak |
| 16:11.35 | malreth | Ktron: if you can even make the .torrent file available, that'd be great |
| 16:11.59 | Ktron | the real question is where the .torrent downloads to |
| 16:12.12 | malreth | ? |
| 16:12.14 | Crispix | where ever you set with your download program Ktron |
| 16:12.15 | Adrine | Definitely. I used it till my Ony anyway, but...that's a really nice upgrade, all things considered. |
| 16:12.42 | L|Elviso | where do you find the torrent? |
| 16:12.49 | L|Elviso | i searched the folder but couldn't find it |
| 16:13.00 | malreth | L|Elviso: it can be extracted from the downloader |
| 16:13.04 | Adrine | It'll be embedded in the downloader |
| 16:13.21 | L|Elviso | k you'll have to make it easier for me if you want me to get it :P |
| 16:13.34 | Ktron | Yeah, I'm confused... I have a WoW-<stuff>-downloader.exe and a -patch.exe.... Oh, okay-- I'll see if I can google how to pull out the torrent |
| 16:13.50 | Adrine | Give http://anton.concord.ru/ftp/reshack/ a shot first. |
| 16:13.59 | Adrine | It may just be embedded as content. |
| 16:15.28 | Eraphine|Lab | did you use torrent extractor? |
| 16:15.48 | Adrine | "Stealth and Invisibility effects will now be canceled at the beginning of an action (spellcast, ability use etc...), rather than at the completion of the action." |
| 16:16.00 | Adrine | Interesting. Does that mean that the succy will be visible at the start of Seduce? |
| 16:16.07 | Ktron | I may have extracted it, give me a second to test it |
| 16:16.12 | Miravlix | Yes |
| 16:16.13 | Eraphine|Lab | http://capnbry.net/wow/ |
| 16:16.15 | L|Elviso | i found the torrent I think |
| 16:16.17 | Crispix | I can't wait to see how my computer takes the new 'weather' |
| 16:16.27 | Miravlix | It's in game stealth thats changed |
| 16:16.28 | Eraphine|Lab | it's a small patch anyway |
| 16:16.47 | Miravlix | Not shadowmeld or rogue stealth, it's the basis of hiding thats changed |
| 16:17.08 | Ktron | okay |
| 16:17.09 | Ktron | got it |
| 16:17.24 | malreth | cool. you're the man now dog |
| 16:17.37 | Crispix | ooooh |
| 16:17.47 | Crispix | Whos the person who told me about Clock Tray Skins? |
| 16:18.33 | Crispix | Ktron.. take a look at teh Rajl0Amp2k skin |
| 16:18.52 | Eraphine|Lab | hrm I just realized my framexml font hack won't work anymore... |
| 16:18.56 | Eraphine|Lab | damnations |
| 16:19.06 | Ktron | yeah, it's okay |
| 16:19.08 | Crispix | And check out the boarders button..... |
| 16:19.13 | Eraphine|Lab | can I just rename the file and make a .toc for it? |
| 16:19.16 | Crispix | borders .. check off... |
| 16:19.18 | Ktron | Crispix, I like BryceAmp |
| 16:19.21 | L|Elviso | i tried to save as binary but it doesn't appear to have worked |
| 16:19.21 | Crispix | it'll blend with your task bar easier |
| 16:20.30 | Crispix | is anyone really good at math? |
| 16:20.41 | Ktron | Crispix, I'm a math major |
| 16:20.42 | Eraphine|Lab | If I have a personalized font.xml, I should be able to make it into an addon by just creating a .toc and listing font.xml in it right? |
| 16:20.50 | malreth | i failed 2nd year calculus twice... |
| 16:20.56 | Miravlix | No, but there is a math macro on cosmosui.org's front page. :) |
| 16:21.10 | Ktron | THIS IS NOT TO LEAVE THE CHANNEL, alright? heh... http://ik-s.us/WoW/ should give you the torrent I think, if that will help people |
| 16:21.15 | Crispix | Miravlix I'm just trying to find out how many hours I'm getting this week.. -_- |
| 16:21.24 | malreth | Eraphine|Lab: there is a new way to change game fonts... xml hacks are no longer needed |
| 16:21.28 | Crispix | Sun 11-6:30 Mon: Off Tues: 2-5 Weds: 11-4 Thurs: 11-5:30 Fri: 11-4 Sat: 12-5 |
| 16:21.40 | Crispix | errr 12 to 5 on tuesday |
| 16:21.43 | Crispix | ie: today |
| 16:22.14 | Miravlix | Just use real clocks |
| 16:22.23 | Eraphine|Lab | malreth I realize that but it's easier to turn my font.xml into an addon that it is to create new strings for everything. |
| 16:22.30 | Ktron | 5 + 5 + 6.5 + 5 + 3 + 7.5 = 15 + 9.5 + 7.5 = 32 hours |
| 16:22.32 | Miravlix | 11-18:30 is much easier to calculate. :) |
| 16:22.44 | Crispix | Thx :D |
| 16:22.50 | Crispix | 32 hours.. lets see.... |
| 16:23.17 | malreth | Eraphine|Lab: no, just take the base font objects and change their fonts... there's a lua way to do what you used to do in XML |
| 16:23.31 | L|Elviso | any clues on how to extract the torrect after i locate it w/reshac? |
| 16:23.35 | L|Elviso | reshack |
| 16:23.41 | malreth | at least, that's how ii understand it |
| 16:23.51 | malreth | L|Elviso: Ktron just posted the torrent... |
| 16:23.52 | Ktron | L|Elviso, http://ik-s.us/WoW/ you can download the torrent from there, I already did it |
| 16:24.17 | Crispix | brb :) |
| 16:24.25 | Miravlix | Never download files from strange people. :) |
| 16:25.05 | malreth | cool... i've got the torrent session started. thanks Ktron |
| 16:25.15 | Ktron | np malreth |
| 16:25.26 | L|Elviso | I'd still ike to know :) |
| 16:25.34 | L|Elviso | can't type today.. |
| 16:25.41 | Ktron | I just used the torrentex someone linked |
| 16:25.43 | Eraphine|Lab | Malreth, I'm too lazy |
| 16:25.57 | Ktron | http://capnbry.net/wow/ |
| 16:26.08 | Ktron | though I think I did it with Reshack too |
| 16:26.11 | Miravlix | How many hours until end of maintenance on US? |
| 16:26.23 | malreth | Eraphine|Lab: well, the XML thing won't work anymore regardless. you'll have to redo it |
| 16:26.28 | Ktron | Miravlix, probably about 2-3 |
| 16:26.44 | Eraphine|Lab | it won't work in the framexml directory, but you can turn font.xml into an addon |
| 16:26.49 | Eraphine|Lab | just make a toc for it and load it as an addon |
| 16:26.57 | Eraphine|Lab | you've always been able to do that. |
| 16:27.36 | Eraphine|Lab | am I wrong? anyone? I haven't tested it yet. |
| 16:28.16 | Miravlix | Duplicate code, does it even exist in lua? |
| 16:28.27 | Miravlix | as an error condition |
| 16:29.45 | Kirkburn|Werk | Eraphine, look at ClearFont |
| 16:29.49 | Eraphine|Lab | Anyone know if /DATA overrides got broken in 1.10 ? |
| 16:29.56 | Eraphine|Lab | Kirkburn|Werk I've looked at it |
| 16:30.06 | Kirkburn|Werk | k ... afaik Data stil works |
| 16:30.08 | Eraphine|Lab | I understand that there are dynamic fonts now |
| 16:30.18 | Kirkburn|Werk | It was okay in the test patch (afaik) |
| 16:30.21 | Eraphine|Lab | but the "easiest" thing to do is just to create a .toc for it |
| 16:30.26 | Eraphine|Lab | if that works. |
| 16:30.37 | Eraphine|Lab | you can have a .toc with the right information that lists font.xml |
| 16:30.41 | Eraphine|Lab | it should load it |
| 16:30.42 | Kirkburn|Werk | Not sure |
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| 16:31.07 | Kirkburn|Werk | It's something to try out |
| 16:31.31 | Kirkburn|Werk | But it will probably break the moment a LoD gets called |
| 16:31.43 | Kirkburn|Werk | (they call the original fonts.xml) |
| 16:31.51 | Eraphine|Lab | ah ha |
| 16:31.58 | Crispix | right.. I gotta go everyone. :) |
| 16:32.14 | malreth | well, that would be why I couldn't download anything with utorrent... |
| 16:32.19 | Crispy|Work | Cyas everyone! *hugs* |
| 16:32.35 | Ktron | malreth, its not a problem with the torrent, is it? |
| 16:33.02 | malreth | no... for some reason, utorrent got reconfigured with the wrong port number... my router was forwarding a different port |
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| 16:33.24 | malreth | i was wondering why no one was connecting to me |
| 16:33.45 | malreth | i made that one change and BAM... +250kb/s downloads now |
| 16:33.50 | Kirkburn|Werk | omg, we've been invaded by a font! |
| 16:34.09 | malreth | entire patch downloaded in about a minute |
| 16:34.20 | ComicSansMS | :P |
| 16:34.22 | ComicSansMS | hi all! |
| 16:34.31 | malreth | I like Tahoma better |
| 16:34.52 | malreth | Although Verdana is kinda cute too |
| 16:35.18 | malreth | ComicSansMS: is like the chubby little sister to those other two fonts. |
| 16:35.35 | malreth | you may take her out for a drink or a bite to eat... |
| 16:35.47 | malreth | but you'll still be thinking of the other two |
| 16:35.48 | ckknight | more cushion for the pushin' |
| 16:36.01 | ComicSansMS | it is, but it always reminds me of this creepy little purple guy ms used as a mascot for it's home-software-series |
| 16:36.05 | Miravlix | Mono Spaced Font! |
| 16:36.06 | ComicSansMS | kinda... psycho |
| 16:36.15 | Miravlix | Anything not Mono = crap. :) |
| 16:37.02 | Kirkburn|Work | Fileplanat now has the patch |
| 16:37.07 | Kirkburn|Work | Or planet |
| 16:37.13 | Kirkburn|Work | I'm really working now, byee |
| 16:37.36 | Ktron | Garamond instead of Times, Mono Spaced instead of Courier, Verdana instead of Arial... |
| 16:39.01 | malreth | oh, you left out Georgia! |
| 16:39.11 | malreth | that's a respectable font |
| 16:39.14 | ckknight | does no one care about Vera Bitstream? |
| 16:39.29 | malreth | i use Vera Mono for my programming font |
| 16:40.08 | ComicSansMS | you know, there are people out there who overrate this whole font-story ;) |
| 16:40.10 | malreth | Vera Sans Mono |
| 16:40.28 | ckknight | where is the patch on fileplanet? |
| 16:40.39 | Miravlix | Courier New 12 point |
| 16:41.25 | ckknight | nvm |
| 16:41.39 | Miravlix | But Bitstream Vera Sans Mono 12 seems interesting. much cleaner than good old courier new |
| 16:41.54 | Ktron | ckknight, is it up there yet? I have a torrent I extracted for it already here --> http://ik-s.us/WoW/ |
| 16:42.20 | ckknight | thank you, Ktron |
| 16:42.31 | malreth | bah, i forgot to set up remote desktop on my gf's computer... wanted to get that patched up too |
| 16:42.50 | Miravlix | I used some default font and keept making case mistakes because I couldn't tell the difference between upper and lowercase letters. |
| 16:42.53 | ckknight | I have to download on my server, my desktop is firewalled to that |
| 16:43.00 | Miravlix | Worn our shift keys is annoying. |
| 16:43.06 | malreth | Miravlix: the zeros and ones are nice in vera sans mono |
| 16:43.29 | malreth | the brackets/braces too |
| 16:43.36 | Ktron | ckknight, malreth was getting much better speeds than I at least normally get with the torrent too |
| 16:44.00 | ckknight | alright |
| 16:44.00 | Miravlix | Just told xemacs to use the font, will have to try it for a few days codeing. |
| 16:44.04 | ckknight | downloading now |
| 16:44.07 | malreth | after setting up my torrent downloader correctly (bonk) it downloaded in about a minute |
| 16:44.19 | malreth | wicked fast... faster than fileplanet |
| 16:44.22 | malreth | no wait, either |
| 16:44.44 | ckknight | I'm getting at 80 KiB/s |
| 16:44.49 | ckknight | wait, it's rising |
| 16:44.51 | ckknight | shiny. |
| 16:44.54 | Miravlix | Not sure if I should go 9/10 or 12 size (1600x1200 rez) |
| 16:45.04 | malreth | you should be able to hit 250kb/s |
| 16:45.17 | ckknight | I'm at 150 now |
| 16:46.53 | ckknight | alright, done, it got up to 280 for me |
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| 17:04.23 | malreth | well, rain finally let up. |
| 17:04.33 | malreth | guess i'll have to go do some work... |
| 17:08.37 | ckknight | what are people going to use instead of AutoBuff (or a similar product)? |
| 17:08.53 | Adrine | Button presses? |
| 17:09.03 | Wobin_ | Autobuff will still work on mousepresses |
| 17:09.11 | Wobin_ | won't it? =) |
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| 17:15.17 | MoonWolf | hope it will, if not. meh |
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| 17:17.15 | MoonWolf | i actually like the low bandwith version better then the regular version :O |
| 17:20.46 | Wobin_ | of wowi? |
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| 17:23.33 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 17:24.48 | Kirkburn|Work | I'll add my agreement to that ... I think it's easy to get put off when there's too much going on |
| 17:25.32 | Kirkburn|Work | (and people will like the fact it loads quickly) I don't want it too bare-bones tho :P |
| 17:26.20 | Cairenn|afk | told you guys that it's been available for a while now :p |
| 17:26.43 | Kirkburn|Work | heh |
| 17:27.21 | Tain | At least one senior VP at EA gets it.: "There are too many bad games. The fact is, most games suck. It's the greatest danger to the future of this business. " |
| 17:27.24 | Kirkburn|Work | I shush then :) |
| 17:27.41 | Kirkburn|Work | Who makes them all, I wonder ... |
| 17:28.28 | Cairenn | hey |
| 17:28.52 | MoonWolf | EA has good stuff too |
| 17:28.56 | MoonWolf | sims was a brilliant idea |
| 17:29.03 | MoonWolf | and spore is promising. |
| 17:29.44 | Kirkburn|Work | Hell yeah |
| 17:29.49 | Gryphen | ya low bandwith > regular :) |
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| 17:30.26 | Kirkburn|Work | I watched the full 1hr talk with Will Wright couple of days ago, v interesting |
| 17:30.30 | Shouryuu|SChool | rawr |
| 17:30.36 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:30.52 | Tain | Spore is the only game I am really longing for. I want to play it now. |
| 17:31.15 | Kirkburn|Work | He mentioned he can't talk about it again until year three though, so I'm assuming 2007 |
| 17:31.44 | Tain | It's supposed to be released this Winter. |
| 17:32.14 | Kirkburn|Work | Intruiging, on both counts |
| 17:33.03 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:33.16 | Kirkburn|Work | Have we got a patch note comparison anywhere? |
| 17:34.21 | Kirkburn|Work | Why do I have a feeling someone's got an auto-response |
| 17:34.27 | Wobin_ | Nah = |
| 17:34.31 | Wobin_ | ) |
| 17:34.37 | Shouryuu|work | hehe |
| 17:34.39 | Kirkburn|Work | lol |
| 17:34.44 | Shouryuu|work | ck I didn't get the file |
| 17:35.01 | ckknight | yea, I don't know your email |
| 17:35.12 | ckknight | rawr |
| 17:35.14 | Shouryuu|work | oh I thought I gave it to you this mornig |
| 17:35.17 | malreth | later all... |
| 17:35.17 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:35.19 | Shouryuu|work | netcheparre@gmail.com |
| 17:35.28 | Tain | It's Shouryuu@huggles.rawr |
| 17:35.33 | Shouryuu|work | lol |
| 17:35.34 | ckknight | okay, well I'll send it to you now |
| 17:35.55 | Shouryuu|work | And if anyone needs a translation just send it to that mail |
| 17:36.03 | Wobin_ | oo |
| 17:36.03 | Shouryuu|work | from english to french or vice versa |
| 17:36.15 | Wobin_ | I shall keep you in mind =) |
| 17:36.15 | L|Elviso | Spore looks like it's going to be amazing |
| 17:36.25 | Wobin_ | (Not that anyone has requested translations for my addons =P) |
| 17:36.33 | ckknight | sent, Shouryuu|work |
| 17:36.34 | Shouryuu|work | hehe |
| 17:36.39 | ckknight | it's not _too_ long |
| 17:36.39 | Shouryuu|work | k cool |
| 17:36.56 | Kirkburn|Work | L|Elviso, aye |
| 17:37.13 | Shouryuu|work | my translation won't be Baudelaire translating Poe.... |
| 17:38.29 | Kirkburn|Work | Can anyone explain what the difference between the CG "Compatible" and "Translation" tick boxes is? |
| 17:38.35 | Shouryuu|work | that's fine ckknight, I'll have it done before I go to bed (4-5 hours) |
| 17:39.28 | Kirkburn|Work | Oh wait, I think I've worked out what the difference is |
| 17:41.47 | Kirkburn|Work | The latest cosmos update ... "Thottbot: Mysterious fixes for 1.10" |
| 17:42.47 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 17:44.08 | Kirkburn|Work | As far as I can tell, the 'public' haven't hit the interface sites much yet |
| 17:44.29 | Wobin_ | They won't |
| 17:44.33 | Wobin_ | not til they start playing |
| 17:44.38 | Wobin_ | And realise they need an update |
| 17:44.49 | MoonWolf | server need to be up first. |
| 17:44.53 | MoonWolf | then the hit comes. |
| 17:44.55 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 17:45.01 | MoonWolf | and a day later the hit doubles |
| 17:45.09 | MoonWolf | when europe joins in. |
| 17:45.25 | Kirkburn|Work | Fun fun fun |
| 17:45.25 | MoonWolf | cant comment on asian patch days. |
| 17:45.33 | Kirkburn|Work | When're they? |
| 17:45.50 | MoonWolf | not a clue |
| 17:46.00 | Kirkburn|Work | wewt |
| 17:46.45 | ckknight | so is Gryphen a full bot? |
| 17:46.50 | Cairenn | no |
| 17:47.00 | Kirkburn|Work | rawr |
| 17:47.05 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 17:47.06 | ckknight | then what's with the auto responses? |
| 17:47.09 | Cairenn | gryphen is a person who has *some* automated responses programmed in |
| 17:47.17 | ckknight | okay |
| 17:47.41 | Kirkburn|Work | He's half-bot half-something |
| 17:47.47 | Wobin_ | cyborg? |
| 17:48.10 | Gryphen | I am a robot, kill kill |
| 17:48.22 | Wobin_ | Number 5 is alive! |
| 17:48.38 | MoonWolf | was that a dbz reference ? |
| 17:48.44 | Wobin_ | er. no |
| 17:48.46 | AnduinLothar | where's greyhoof's (sct) main download site and/or email? |
| 17:48.54 | Wobin_ | That was a movie reference |
| 17:49.00 | MoonWolf | ?? |
| 17:49.07 | Wobin_ | I can't remember what the title of the movie was though =( |
| 17:49.12 | Wobin_ | It's been far too long =P |
| 17:49.24 | MoonWolf | jonny five ? |
| 17:49.31 | Wobin_ | .... Probably =) |
| 17:50.06 | Gryphen | Short Circuit |
| 17:50.16 | Wobin_ | That's the one! |
| 17:50.20 | Wobin_ | Thank you Gryph! |
| 17:50.28 | MoonWolf | robot escapes meets cute girl gets smart, exploision, running away more exploision, robot escapes with girl and guy who built him ? |
| 17:50.35 | AnduinLothar | short curcuit rocked :) |
| 17:51.51 | Cide | Cairenn: not sure if you missed my message since you were afk, but wowi is 100% updated with CT stuff :) |
| 17:51.59 | Cairenn | Cide: thanks |
| 17:53.31 | Adrine | Dear IE6: |
| 17:53.33 | Adrine | DIAF |
| 17:53.35 | Adrine | That is all. |
| 17:54.11 | Kirkburn|Work | Ducks Intrigue All Frenchmen? |
| 17:54.24 | Adrine | Die In A Fire. |
| 17:54.25 | Adrine | :) |
| 17:54.31 | Kirkburn|Work | I liked mine more :( |
| 17:54.40 | Adrine | Fun fact |
| 17:54.50 | ckknight | Deep in Albiino Farmers |
| 17:54.54 | Wobin_ | Well, Shouryuu|work? Are you fascinated by canards? |
| 17:55.08 | Kirkburn|Work | Or perhaps Mallards |
| 17:55.17 | Adrine | If you have a position:relative container without a set height and you float a container in that container, content in the floated container is prone to randomly just disappearing unless you set a height on the grandparent container. |
| 17:55.38 | Wobin_ | Adrine: CSS? |
| 17:55.40 | Adrine | Yeah. |
| 17:55.48 | Adrine | Fortunately, IE incorrectly misinterprets height: as min-height: so it's possible to set a height without actually breaking your layout. |
| 17:55.53 | Kirkburn|Work | Luvelly ... hopefully it's fixed in IE7 |
| 17:56.18 | Wobin_ | CSS + IE is a grudge match made in hell |
| 17:58.59 | Cairenn | Anyone have a valid alternate download for the patch? |
| 17:59.22 | Wobin_ | http://files.filefront.com/World+of+Warcraft+v194+to+v110+Patch+US+AUS/;4924544;;/fileinfo.html ? |
| 17:59.24 | AnduinLothar | not the pc one |
| 18:00.36 | Wobin_ | or http://www.fileplanet.com/161929/160000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft-Patch-v1.10-English |
| 18:00.36 | Cairenn | yeah |
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| 18:00.37 | Elkano | good (whatever) :) |
| 18:01.46 | Cairenn | hey |
| 18:03.37 | Elkano | tomorrow will be a hard day for me I suppose :/ hope all my addons will keep working with 1.10 :/ |
| 18:11.02 | AnduinLothar | be easy for me. i plan on sleeping 6 hours and then going to work |
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| 18:13.11 | Elkano | well, for me 1.10 will go live tomorrow ^^' but no bug reportrs from us users up to now ^^ |
| 18:13.35 | Wobin_ | cause... well... the servers are still down for us =) |
| 18:13.56 | Elkano | oh ^^ |
| 18:15.03 | Kirkburn|Work | My huge guild lost lots of members last night :( |
| 18:15.15 | Elkano | y? |
| 18:15.15 | Cairenn | Kirkburn|Work: ? |
| 18:15.42 | Kirkburn|Work | Seems that people in the first raid group weren't happy with the progress that was being made |
| 18:16.02 | Kirkburn|Work | I think about 20 people may have gone |
| 18:16.45 | Kirkburn|Work | Fortunately it seems to have stopped ... we also briefly lost one of our GMs, but she's come back again :) Her husband is the other GM! |
| 18:17.05 | Kirkburn|Work | But I suppose that's what happens when you get too big :S |
| 18:17.34 | Kirkburn|Work | Right back to work methinks |
| 18:23.30 | Josh_Borke | too big! |
| 18:23.38 | Josh_Borke | my guild has over 250 people! and we're increasing! |
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| 18:25.55 | Kirkburn|Work | [mine had 290 accounts] |
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| 18:29.52 | Kirkburn|Work | Here's the patch notes btw http://wow.warcry.com/scripts/columns/view_sectionalt.phtml?site=19&id=435&colid=9401 |
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| 18:32.14 | Elkano | ho Iriel :) |
| 18:32.32 | Iriel | Morning |
| 18:32.36 | Cairen1 | hey Iriel |
| 18:33.12 | Wobin_ | Night all =) |
| 18:33.40 | Josh_Borke | morning iriel |
| 18:33.42 | Josh_Borke | night wobin |
| 18:33.56 | Cairen1 | woot woot! http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4767 |
| 18:34.03 | Josh_Borke | Kirkburn|Work: it makes me sad because we're expanding more and we're going to start a second raid group |
| 18:34.36 | Cairen1 | night Wobin_ |
| 18:35.06 | Kirkburn|Work | Yay for slouken! |
| 18:35.15 | Elkano | faker? or is it realy the master himself? |
| 18:35.32 | Cairen1 | Elkano: you think I wouldn't know? it's Sam |
| 18:36.09 | Josh_Borke | yay for slouken |
| 18:36.12 | Elkano | well, if the addon works, it has to be slouken since it needs to be signed, or am I wrong? ^^ |
| 18:36.26 | Kirkburn|Work | And he said he was going to upload it |
| 18:36.26 | Cairen1 | *sigh* |
| 18:36.31 | Kirkburn|Work | Yes, it's him |
| 18:36.31 | Cairen1 | it is him |
| 18:36.37 | Elkano | \o/ |
| 18:36.51 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 18:37.03 | Cairen1 | ? |
| 18:37.09 | AnduinLothar | nothing |
| 18:37.13 | AnduinLothar | i'm tired |
| 18:37.16 | Cairen1 | o.0 |
| 18:37.38 | Kirkburn|Work | (I never get to be first after a blue :P ) |
| 18:37.38 | AnduinLothar | i offered to make new graphics for hima dn then i got busy |
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| 18:39.38 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:39.48 | Josh_Borke | the middle button makes you always jump? |
| 18:40.19 | Kirkburn|Work | Duh, it makes you fly obviously ;) |
| 18:40.43 | Josh_Borke | so i could push that then start scanning the AH! |
| 18:42.01 | krka | i wonder... can you change graphics without changing the signature? |
| 18:42.24 | AnduinLothar | well i meant to do layour as well |
| 18:42.29 | AnduinLothar | layout* |
| 18:43.57 | Adrine | iGenzer: and the chorus is basically "protected from the harshness, protected from the swarm, theres something to be said for walls. when others out there charge, we take solace in our attempt to study, watching all the zerg with our bunker buddies. watching all the fighting with our bunker buddies." then over the loudspeaker, a voice came over that said "We need more vespene gas. bunker 12, you're up." then raynor breaks out "its okay, we'll succeed, |
| 18:43.59 | Iriel | Hm, forum login server is back, wonder when the other one will return. |
| 18:44.02 | Adrine | Err. Wrong window. Ignore that. |
| 18:45.30 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 18:45.40 | Josh_Borke | ah, the good old days of SC |
| 18:45.41 | Josh_Borke | i miss SC |
| 18:47.04 | Cairen1 | out the door again for a bit, back later |
| 18:47.04 | Adrine | I have a friend who dreamt about Starcraft: The Musical last night |
| 18:47.08 | Adrine | In full detail |
| 18:47.08 | Adrine | Two acts |
| 18:47.12 | Adrine | With lyrics he can remember. |
| 18:47.16 | Adrine | So...he's writing it down. |
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| 18:48.02 | krka | O_o |
| 18:48.09 | krka | that's so cool |
| 18:48.10 | krka | and weird |
| 18:48.14 | krka | mostly cool |
| 18:48.15 | Adrine | Very weird. |
| 18:48.36 | Adrine | http://gomatgo.livejournal.com/93689.html#cutid1 |
| 18:49.09 | Iriel | krka: Yes, you can re-textxure it after load. |
| 18:49.20 | AnduinLothar | nap time |
| 18:49.28 | AnduinLothar | cyal when hell breaks lose |
| 18:50.11 | krka | i mean, can you change the graphics outside of game? |
| 18:50.14 | Iriel | Bah, this is one of the cleanest patches todate |
| 18:50.18 | krka | is the signature only applied to xml and lua? |
| 18:50.33 | krka | one of the cleanest patches today, aswell! |
| 18:50.34 | Iriel | krka: I think so, I believe the signature applies only to the toc and code files |
| 18:52.11 | krka | interesting |
| 18:53.09 | Iriel | Should be very easy to test, once we're live |
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| 19:02.38 | Cide | hey, Iriel |
| 19:03.23 | Iriel | Yup? |
| 19:03.30 | Cide | on http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=342347&p=1&tmp=1#post342347, it suggests "Try :SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE"). " |
| 19:03.44 | Cide | I would suggest using WorldFrame, using UIParent makes it stop working while UIParent is hidden |
| 19:04.40 | Iriel | Are you sure? |
| 19:04.47 | Cide | that was the conclusion I drew on test |
| 19:04.58 | Iriel | (I ask because folks said that wasn't the case when I asked here last night) |
| 19:05.17 | Cide | I'm scanning the tooltip for buff name in CT_BuffMod (and store it in a table for reuse) |
| 19:05.31 | Cide | buffing myself when the UI was hidden and re-showing it made the buff name display blank |
| 19:05.45 | Cide | changed it to WorldFrame, and it worked |
| 19:06.02 | Cide | it *could* be that I parented it to WorldFrame as well, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 19:06.28 | Legorol | morning folks |
| 19:06.30 | Cide | easily verified when servers come up, I guess |
| 19:06.34 | Legorol | how are you all faring with the patch? |
| 19:06.45 | Iriel | I'll change it for now, and then will re-test when I get a chance |
| 19:06.47 | Legorol | in about how long are the servers expected up? |
| 19:06.48 | Cide | well, people haven't tested the updates, so they can't complain.. yet |
| 19:07.09 | Iriel | Legorol : 2 hours |
| 19:07.16 | Legorol | did it get pushed back? |
| 19:07.20 | Iriel | Legorol : Based on the last update I saw from Blizzard |
| 19:07.21 | Legorol | i thought it was supposed to be 11 PST |
| 19:07.26 | Iriel | it was "taking longer than expected" |
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| 19:08.26 | Legorol | ah ok |
| 19:09.31 | Legorol | hehe, why is that when the rest of the player base looks forward to the patch excitedly |
| 19:09.35 | Legorol | we here shiver and fear :-) |
| 19:09.44 | Iriel | I'm not afraid 8-) |
| 19:10.15 | Cide | I'm not afraid, I just hope there won't be any huge issue and I'll have to fix it |
| 19:10.25 | Legorol | hehe |
| 19:10.34 | Legorol | btw, i can't find the Blizz post saying it's taking longer :/ |
| 19:10.39 | Legorol | not as if i don't beleive what you are saying |
| 19:10.52 | Legorol | i just don't like it when i can't find something |
| 19:11.12 | Maldivia | Legorol, start WoW - and look at the logon message there :) |
| 19:11.20 | Maldivia | Cide: yeah |
| 19:11.21 | Legorol | ah, that explains it.. |
| 19:11.25 | Legorol | i'm in EU, remember :D |
| 19:11.37 | Legorol | darn them for not posting on forums |
| 19:11.44 | Cide | like last patch... I stressed to fix shit for like 2 days |
| 19:11.48 | Cide | that wasn't very fun |
| 19:13.40 | Iriel | "Some of the more in depth features of the 1.10 content patch are taking longer to apply than we originally anticipated. Therefore, todays realm maintenance will be extended to approximately 1:00PM PST. Realms originally scheduled to be brought up at 2:00 PM PST (listed below) are still on schedule to go live at this time." |
| 19:13.57 | Maldivia | Cide: you mean 2 weeks - with the stut-stut-stuttering... |
| 19:13.59 | Legorol | <3 Iriel |
| 19:15.04 | Cide | well, yeah |
| 19:15.11 | Cide | that part wasn't very fun, either |
| 19:15.20 | Cide | and some people are still experiencing it and I have no clue why |
| 19:15.54 | Maldivia | Legorol: in case you didn't know, the login notice = http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 19:16.53 | Maldivia | Cide: yeah, I have one that's experiencting stutters on RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE aswell, but not related to CT_RA |
| 19:17.09 | Maldivia | "one" = one in my guild |
| 19:17.51 | Cide | I "believe" it's related to the backdrop but I'm not sure |
| 19:18.18 | Maldivia | Cide: well, the person in my guild having the problems is not using CT_RA... |
| 19:18.36 | Cide | not sure if it was anyone in here, but someone experienced HUGE slowdowns (think ~15 fps as opposed to 40-50) with the CTRA windows enabled, only displayed, not doing nothing |
| 19:18.51 | Cide | after commenting out the backdrop, it worked fine |
| 19:18.52 | Maldivia | like the screenshots? |
| 19:19.06 | Cide | not sure what you mean |
| 19:19.25 | Maldivia | the screenshots posted a hwile back, when the slowdowns was mentioned on the forums |
| 19:19.35 | Cide | don't think I saw it |
| 19:19.41 | Maldivia | entrance of MC, showing 40 virtual frames |
| 19:19.50 | Maldivia | and a fps drop to half of no visual frames |
| 19:20.32 | Cide | oh yeah, I might've seen that |
| 19:20.46 | Cide | I think that was the person who whispered me on my character |
| 19:21.08 | Cide | had him/her comment out the backdrops, no fps decrease at all |
| 19:21.56 | Maldivia | hmm, are there any UI optimizations in this patch, like in the last one? |
| 19:22.51 | Josh_Borke | whoa, talk |
| 19:25.09 | Kirkburn|Work | Blizzard's v1.10 Interface Addon Kit has now been released to coincide with the patch release and if you want to check it out it's available here. |
| 19:25.15 | Kirkburn|Work | http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 19:31.51 | Maldivia | hmm... probably shouldn't post the translation of Esamynn's post :) |
| 19:40.05 | Maldivia | hmm, what's the time in PST right now? |
| 19:41.36 | Kirkburn|Work | What's the nearest city to blizzard? |
| 19:41.49 | Kirkburn|Work | (11:41 is my guess btw) |
| 19:41.59 | Kirkburn|Work | (using Los Angeles) |
| 19:42.57 | Maldivia | well, my sense of US time was fucked this weekend, because we changed to daylight savings... |
| 19:42.58 | Kirkburn|Work | http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ |
| 19:43.14 | Kirkburn|Work | Aye, and my girlfriend forgot |
| 19:43.38 | Kirkburn|Work | Her family went to church an hour late :D |
| 19:43.43 | Maldivia | heh |
| 19:44.17 | Ktron | Daylight savings time was this past weekend? |
| 19:44.35 | Kirkburn|Work | in EU |
| 19:44.37 | Maldivia | in europe, yes |
| 19:44.42 | Ktron | oh, okay |
| 19:44.59 | Maldivia | 1½ week, I think |
| 19:45.06 | Ktron | I keep forgetting that we EST'ers are a minority here Ithink |
| 19:45.08 | Maldivia | I think it's 2 weeks apart |
| 19:45.24 | Ktron | (ie, GMT-5) |
| 19:45.33 | Ktron | alright |
| 19:45.52 | Ktron | I think ti's time to check out weather if the servers are up |
| 19:46.06 | Kirkburn|Work | http://www.timeanddate.com/time/aboutdst.html <-- DST info |
| 19:46.06 | Maldivia | Ktron: April 2nd |
| 19:46.21 | Ktron | so one week apart |
| 19:46.25 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 19:46.34 | Maldivia | or well, the night between the 1st and the 2nd |
| 19:46.46 | Kirkburn|Work | One example is that United States and Canada will extend Daylight Saving Time from 2007, and probably other regions and countries in Northern America will follow. The new start date will be the second Sunday in March (currently first Sunday in April), to the first Sunday in November (currently last Sunday in October). |
| 19:47.00 | Kirkburn|Work | First sunday in april for you then |
| 19:47.07 | Ktron | Are Anetheron/Duskwood/Haomarush/Norgannon/Scilla.... new servers? |
| 19:47.14 | Kirkburn|Work | yup |
| 19:47.38 | Maldivia | Anetheron, Duskwood, Haomarush, Norgannon, Scilla, Steamwheedle Cartel, Thrall, Turalyon, Ysondre, Zuluhed |
| 19:48.00 | Maldivia | none are up yet... |
| 19:48.36 | Ktron | I just looked for blank types here http://worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/lowbw.html |
| 19:49.11 | Ktron | nope, still just Emerald Dream, Maelstrom, Lightninghoof, and... there's one other I think |
| 19:49.20 | Ktron | Twisting Nethe |
| 19:49.22 | Ktron | r |
| 19:50.20 | Maldivia | *grumble* Oblivion is so expensive... |
| 19:50.23 | Eraphine|Lab | Time to backup all the entire WTF and Inteface directory |
| 19:50.30 | Kolth | Maldivia: I didnt even like it. |
| 19:50.45 | Maldivia | Kolth: ohh I like it... my hardware doesn't :+ |
| 19:50.52 | Corrodias | did you like morrowind, Kolth? |
| 19:50.53 | Kolth | ah |
| 19:50.57 | Kolth | Corrodias: Only a tad. |
| 19:51.09 | Kolth | I want someone to convince me why I should like Oblivion. |
| 19:51.12 | Corrodias | thank you for the input. it seems there is some correlation |
| 19:51.14 | Maldivia | hence the expensive part :) |
| 19:51.27 | Kolth | Corrodias: Was III better than IV? |
| 19:51.45 | Ktron | heh, One friend paid 50$ for it, my other friend just got it off of the university DC++ hub for free |
| 19:51.47 | Corrodias | i haven't played oblivion yet, so i cannot say if i like it, yet |
| 19:52.08 | Ktron | they're not my type of game |
| 19:52.19 | Kolth | Corrodias: I found Oblivion's controls to feel awkward and the graphics to be way below par. |
| 19:52.21 | Corrodias | i could get it and play it (my new computer can probably handle it pretty well) but i'm playing planescape: torment right now and don't want to change games |
| 19:52.31 | Tain | If you didn't love Morrowind you have no reason to try Oblivion. |
| 19:52.47 | Eraphine|Lab | where is that wiki page that shows which addons work and don't work with 1.10? |
| 19:53.11 | Kolth | http://www.wowwiki.com/Broken_Addons_0.10:_Repair_and_Reporting |
| 19:53.16 | Kolth | ? |
| 19:53.36 | Tain | Oblivion's graphics are wonderful, the gameplay is much the same as Morrowind, with a lot of improvements, but the overall open-ness of everything is the same. |
| 19:53.51 | Corrodias | i liked morrowind enough to play it three times with the same character (continuing from where i left off) and never start the main story quests |
| 19:53.53 | Maldivia | I like the openness |
| 19:53.54 | Kolth | Tain: You thought they were good? I felt like I was playing a 90s RPG |
| 19:55.03 | krka | man killing the 3 buccaneer captains solo is difficult |
| 19:55.03 | Corrodias | i fear that once i start modding a game, that becomes more important than playing it |
| 19:55.13 | Corrodias | time to go to class, though. [away] |
| 19:55.18 | Kolth | cyas |
| 19:55.24 | Codayus | oblivions graphics are...remarkable...yeah |
| 19:55.43 | Kolth | I see their virtue, I just think they aren't pretty. |
| 19:55.53 | Codayus | haven't seen anything quite that pretty before. |
| 19:56.14 | Codayus | Hmmm, takes all kinds. |
| 19:56.29 | Maldivia | what really bugged me whne I started it for the first time, is that the voice of the emperor is Patrick Stewart |
| 19:56.52 | Maldivia | and about the graphics... I don't really care that much :) |
| 19:57.31 | Codayus | I prefer gameplay to graphics...but....when the graphics are *that* nice... I think of it as an added bonus. |
| 19:57.39 | Codayus | :-) |
| 19:57.46 | ckknight | Super Mario World was the best game ever |
| 19:57.58 | ckknight | they couldn't have amazing graphics, so they instead had awesome gameplay |
| 19:58.34 | krka | zelda, a link to the past had awesome graphics |
| 19:58.39 | krka | and awesome gameplay |
| 19:58.57 | ckknight | the graphics were "primitive" in our standards |
| 19:59.04 | ckknight | but they did have a nice feel |
| 19:59.08 | ckknight | most of the SNES games did |
| 19:59.22 | ckknight | mmm... 256 colors |
| 19:59.22 | Codayus | graphics rarely age well... |
| 19:59.42 | ckknight | everything has gone 3D now |
| 19:59.50 | ckknight | we only have so much farther to go |
| 20:00.01 | Codayus | One reason I like roguelikes like adom or angband. The graphics are all imaginaryk, so they look as good now as they ever did. :-P |
| 20:00.05 | ckknight | then it'll be impossible to tell the difference between one year and the next |
| 20:00.45 | krka | you really think sp? |
| 20:01.06 | ckknight | in response to me, krka? |
| 20:01.17 | Codayus | I can imagine way more plys than my graphics card cana render. :-) |
| 20:01.26 | krka | yes ckknight |
| 20:01.29 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:01.47 | ckknight | but what about that crucial point when everything is perfectly smooth |
| 20:01.53 | ckknight | and your graphics card is very fast |
| 20:02.08 | ckknight | and the next graphics card may render better, but you can't physically tell the difference |
| 20:02.24 | Codayus | Dunno how close we are, but at somepoint...you can't get better than perfect photorealism. |
| 20:02.34 | ckknight | exactly, Codayus |
| 20:02.37 | ckknight | we have a while to go, though |
| 20:02.50 | ckknight | minimum 15 years, I'd say |
| 20:03.00 | krka | well, it would need to be a raytraced engine |
| 20:03.09 | krka | generating millions of lightbeams and stuff |
| 20:03.22 | krka | and generating images for both eyes |
| 20:03.27 | krka | so you can't tell it's not real |
| 20:03.46 | krka | but then the improvements will start with actually generating the world instead of showing it |
| 20:03.56 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:04.03 | Codayus | yeah |
| 20:04.18 | ckknight | I want matrix-style virtual reality |
| 20:05.05 | krka | i am not so sure people _want_ perfect realism |
| 20:05.10 | Codayus | games like sp...uh....sp....er... spoe? spawn? whatever it is wil wrights working on now... are probably the future once graphics stop being so important. |
| 20:05.24 | ckknight | spore? |
| 20:05.51 | Codayus | maybe. thats what I was trying to spell |
| 20:06.01 | Maldivia | didn't they have do a test a year or two back, with a screening of some insane high definition, so high, that most of the test audience felt nausea ? |
| 20:06.40 | krka | i want cartoonish games |
| 20:06.41 | Codayus | krka: true, but they don't want ugly jaggly pollys and 2d sprites either. |
| 20:06.43 | krka | like wow |
| 20:07.02 | ckknight | I do like the cartoonism of WoW |
| 20:07.10 | Ktron | anyone played eq2? |
| 20:07.26 | ckknight | I want it to be photorealistic, but also cartoony |
| 20:07.31 | ckknight | no jagged polygons, I mean |
| 20:07.35 | Ktron | I like photorealistic |
| 20:07.35 | Maldivia | "The footage was later projected on a 4 x 7 metre screen for public demonstration and the public were astonished. As the visual effect of the footage travelling down a road was so realistic, some viewers even experienced nausea as a side effect of seeing ultra realistic motion, but not physically feeling the motion." |
| 20:07.55 | Ktron | The key is what you leave 'blank' or close to stock. eq 2 left a lot like that, WoW... not so much |
| 20:08.24 | Codayus | krka - i agree. photorealism might be the wrong word. I really like the exagerated, styali9zed visual look of wow. But I think it would stillbe better if it was higher poly, had more realistic shadows, etc. |
| 20:08.29 | Ktron | Maldivia, that's nothing, descent used to make people sick too |
| 20:09.39 | Codayus | If I have to choose realtime reflections and shadows OR coherent art direction, I'd want the latter. But I think both would be even better. <shrug> |
| 20:10.29 | ckknight | I agree, Codayus |
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| 20:12.49 | Kemayo | There's always a market for non-realistic options. Note the commercial success of, say, Disney or Pixar. |
| 20:13.32 | Codayus | note the quality of pixars graphics |
| 20:13.59 | Kemayo | They're very high-quality, I agree, but I think that a lot of their appeal is their "cartoony" style. |
| 20:14.05 | Kirkburn|Work | Hahaa! http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=396265&poll_id=0&warned=y |
| 20:14.07 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:14.13 | Kirkburn|Work | ^^ click click! |
| 20:14.16 | ckknight | I like the cartoony high-quality stuff |
| 20:14.53 | ckknight | that's be pimp, Kirkburn|Work |
| 20:14.54 | Maldivia | speaking of visuals... anyone seen the commercial for sony new bravia television - the one with all the bouncing balls? |
| 20:14.55 | ckknight | but unlikely |
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| 20:15.04 | Ktron | Maldivia, yep |
| 20:15.17 | Kirkburn|Work | It's a pretty good piccie. |
| 20:15.46 | Maldivia | that's a hell of a lot of balls to throw down a street |
| 20:16.02 | Ktron | on the site they have a special on the making of that commercial |
| 20:16.07 | Ktron | its fun to watch too |
| 20:16.11 | Maldivia | but the end result is really nice |
| 20:16.43 | Kirkburn|Work | Where's that screenshot taken, anyone? |
| 20:17.15 | Codayus | their animation is just a few steps beyond, say, dragoball z. And I'm not sure just how much better it can get either - they may alreay be at the point where there arent any graphic improvements to be made |
| 20:17.29 | Codayus | well...a lot closer to it than computer games are... |
| 20:17.43 | Codayus | hmmm, sorry, massive lag. :-( |
| 20:18.21 | Ktron | Kirkburn|Work, where'd you find that? |
| 20:18.34 | Ktron | I think it was taken in Dustwallow |
| 20:22.09 | Ktron | brb |
| 20:22.16 | Kirkburn|Work | Yeah, I agree |
| 20:22.17 | Kirkburn|Work | Forums |
| 20:23.52 | Kirkburn|Work | A silly question perhaps, but that's one *very* good photoshop |
| 20:24.05 | Adrine | It's extraordinarily well done |
| 20:24.08 | Kirkburn|Work | Where's the mistakes?! |
| 20:25.20 | ckknight | can't see anything blatant, but the shadow seems odd |
| 20:25.56 | Kirkburn|Work | It's using an in-game murloc skin |
| 20:26.18 | Elkano | it sais 'Ironforge' ;) |
| 20:26.29 | krka | who says it's photoshopped? why not modified game? |
| 20:26.32 | Kirkburn|Work | It could be in IF ... |
| 20:26.38 | ckknight | yea, it's possible |
| 20:26.41 | Kirkburn|Work | Murlocs can't wear armour currently |
| 20:26.55 | Kirkburn|Work | It would be very very hard to do the necessary remodelling |
| 20:27.05 | krka | perhaps |
| 20:27.15 | Kirkburn|Work | Btw, just had a look in model viewer, it's a normal murloc in the 'stand' position |
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| 20:29.36 | ckknight | alright |
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| 20:35.57 | Ktron | WoW Realms are immune to Kolth's summon. |
| 20:37.28 | Kolth | :| |
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| 20:38.05 | wowguru-0933 | Can anyone play WOW right now, or is something wrong with mine? |
| 20:38.21 | Ktron | I don't believe anyone can at the moment, as the realms are down |
| 20:38.28 | Gryphen | lol |
| 20:38.30 | wowguru-0933 | Oh, |
| 20:38.31 | wowguru-0933 | Cuz |
| 20:38.51 | Ktron | Just check the website, there's a 'server status' page, it will tell you if they are down or not |
| 20:38.55 | wowguru-0933 | When i sighn in it usually tells me what realms are down. Now it does not tell me anyting. |
| 20:39.01 | Gryphen | Big patch today |
| 20:39.23 | wowguru-0933 | I tried to go to the web page but for something reason it kind not find the server to the page |
| 20:40.22 | wowguru-0933 | I did not know if i was going to get to play today, and i was going to go crazy. |
| 20:41.19 | Shouryuu | well go crazy |
| 20:41.23 | Shouryuu | because you aren't =( |
| 20:41.42 | ckknight | ... |
| 20:43.12 | wowguru-0933 | What? |
| 20:43.19 | wowguru-0933 | I thought it was done at like 2ish |
| 20:43.36 | Ktron | It'll be done when they finish |
| 20:43.36 | Shouryuu | Well that's what they announced yeah |
| 20:43.45 | Shouryuu | That's what will happen |
| 20:43.51 | Gryphen | First patch day wowguru-0933? |
| 20:44.12 | wowguru-0933 | I guess? |
| 20:44.54 | wowguru-0933 | I woke up at like 12 do ready to play, and i got on and i had to download something. SO i waited and then when it was done i tried to log on and it would not let me, i thought the buill was delinquent or something? |
| 20:45.13 | wowguru-0933 | I started freaking out. |
| 20:45.14 | Shouryuu | nope |
| 20:45.18 | Shouryuu | just a patch :P |
| 20:45.33 | wowguru-0933 | so i went to the website and for some reason it wont go to it? |
| 20:45.54 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 20:46.01 | Shouryuu | there are like 1 million people in your case |
| 20:46.03 | Gryphen | because everyone is going to the website |
| 20:46.05 | wowguru-0933 | lol |
| 20:46.13 | wowguru-0933 | YEah i guess that makes sence. |
| 20:46.14 | Shouryuu | so they are all swarming at the same time to the web site :P |
| 20:46.29 | wowguru-0933 | so what do you guys predict the time will be/ |
| 20:46.36 | Gryphen | Tomorrow |
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| 20:46.43 | Kolth | Servers up in 14 minutes. |
| 20:46.51 | Shouryuu | w00t |
| 20:46.56 | ckknight | bot! |
| 20:47.03 | Ktron | only somtimes |
| 20:47.12 | wowguru-0933 | 14 minutes really? |
| 20:47.17 | Kolth | wowguru-0933: Give or take. |
| 20:47.18 | Eraphine|Lab | no not really |
| 20:47.30 | Ktron | Give or Take.... 10 hours |
| 20:47.37 | Natasem | does this mean LootLink is now dead also? "Trying to spoof item links will disconnect you." |
| 20:47.45 | Eraphine|Lab | not if you don't spook fake items |
| 20:47.58 | Natasem | fake items? |
| 20:48.12 | Eraphine|Lab | yeah - that's what Spoofe items are. |
| 20:48.17 | Gryphen | spoof = fake |
| 20:48.24 | Natasem | i know what spoof means |
| 20:48.32 | Gryphen | Why is it confusing then? lol |
| 20:48.33 | Natasem | but i didn't know LL has fake items in it's database |
| 20:48.35 | Gryphen | im now confused |
| 20:48.35 | Shouryuu | more like spoof links |
| 20:48.41 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 20:48.41 | Eraphine|Lab | Lootlink picks up all links |
| 20:48.49 | Eraphine|Lab | including invalid ones |
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| 20:48.55 | Shouryuu | ah |
| 20:49.38 | Natasem | so to be on the safe side, remove LL and install a fresh version of it when Telos comes out with it |
| 20:49.51 | Eraphine|Lab | just erase the database |
| 20:50.02 | Eraphine|Lab | it's the the addon that is broken |
| 20:50.06 | Eraphine|Lab | it's >not< |
| 20:50.32 | Eraphine|Lab | erase lootlink.lua in your savedvariables directory |
| 20:50.51 | Natasem | DB is in the WTF/SavedVerables/LootLink ? or is it in the LL folder... i am not at home so i am going off memory here |
| 20:51.12 | Eraphine|Lab | would be wtf/account/savedvariables/lootlink.lua |
| 20:51.42 | Ktron | the database is invisible. Therefore, you cannot delete it. You must reinstall World of Warcraft before playing again. Sincerely, Personwhowantsbandwidthback |
| 20:52.14 | Eraphine|Lab | troll! |
| 20:52.25 | Shouryuu | run away, run away! |
| 20:52.59 | Osagasu | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priests2/talents.html?50013213320010000555030002005005000000000000000 <---maybe this would work as a holy PvP build... hrm... |
| 20:53.05 | Osagasu | me ponders |
| 20:53.25 | Shouryuu | a holy pvp build imo isn't smart |
| 20:53.36 | Eraphine|Lab | so, who was it that said that loadondemand addons reload font.xml? |
| 20:53.55 | Osagasu | Well, Shadow PvP isn't good for PvE, but a Holy PvP build, in relation, is |
| 20:54.00 | Eraphine|Lab | because.. if they do, what's to prevent it from breaking an addon like clearfont? |
| 20:54.08 | Eraphine|Lab | unless clearfont hooked into the loadondemand chain. |
| 20:54.10 | Shouryuu | just a *bit* better, not that much |
| 20:54.48 | Shouryuu | and you're not as good in PvP in holy as you are in Shadow |
| 20:54.55 | Shouryuu | so if you want to do PvP, just go shadow |
| 20:55.14 | Shouryuu | If you want to mix PvP and PvE, go Holy |
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| 20:55.33 | Kirkburn|Work | Hey, I heard something interesting |
| 20:55.37 | Natasem | and in AV now we have to do damage to get any Honor Points right.... so a Holy Priest that doesn't cast any damage spells in AV gets zero points... is that what they are saying here " |
| 20:55.38 | Natasem | * Instead when a player is slain in Alterac Valley, any enemies that were in that player's threat list will gain 1 point of reputation with either the Frostwolf or Stormpike factions. |
| 20:55.40 | Natasem | * Frostwolf and Stormpike faction will now be gained by killing players of the opposite faction. Reputation will no longer be split up among the entire raid group. |
| 20:55.50 | ToastTheif | I don't like the new site lay out for wowace :( |
| 20:55.51 | Kirkburn|Work | Eraphine|Lab <-- I said it! |
| 20:56.03 | Ktron | healing causes threat, right? |
| 20:56.10 | ckknight | right |
| 20:56.11 | Shouryuu | in PvE aye |
| 20:56.13 | ckknight | im most cases |
| 20:56.21 | Ktron | it means threat reductions = honor reductions heh |
| 20:56.36 | Kirkburn|Work | Eraphine, every time an addon loads, ClearFont checks to see if fonts.xml has been loaded ... if so, it reloads |
| 20:56.51 | Natasem | ya my priest causes very lettle threat cuz i have alot of points in threat reduction |
| 20:57.13 | Shouryuu | Healing priests get the trap in PvP |
| 20:57.38 | Kirkburn|Work | (wowace does need soem improvement ... like news dates) |
| 20:57.38 | Natasem | get the trap = get screwed ? |
| 20:58.00 | Ktron | ae = fast honor too |
| 20:58.01 | ToastTheif | and the old interface :( |
| 20:58.03 | Adrine | I'm thinking that http://www.wowhead.com/talent/?bxMGsciqofxt00b would be pretty decent for an offensive priest. |
| 20:58.12 | Ktron | one ae spell, and I'm on everyone's lists heh |
| 20:58.19 | Natasem | lol |
| 20:59.05 | Kirkburn|Work | (Eraphine, also, the standard Blizz LoD addons reload fonts.xml too ... it's possible that may not be required any more, but I'm not taking my chances) |
| 20:59.08 | Osagasu | Well, Toast, My build is meant as a high spirit build |
| 20:59.21 | ToastTheif | huh? |
| 20:59.32 | Osagasu | Divine Spirit + Spirit Tap + Spiritual Guidance |
| 20:59.36 | ToastTheif | I was tlaking about the Wowace site |
| 20:59.36 | Kirkburn|Work | I don't think u mean him |
| 20:59.40 | Kirkburn|Work | :D |
| 20:59.42 | Eraphine|Lab | ah, ok |
| 20:59.45 | Osagasu | oh |
| 20:59.45 | ToastTheif | not your spirit build =P |
| 20:59.48 | Osagasu | Adrine |
| 20:59.53 | Osagasu | not Toast |
| 20:59.58 | Osagasu | I got the line numbering off |
| 21:00.03 | Eraphine|Lab | so you hook the event and just reload clearfont every time? |
| 21:00.17 | Eraphine|Lab | nm i'll look at clearfont |
| 21:00.23 | Eraphine|Lab | I'm determined to make my font.xml work! |
| 21:00.30 | Kirkburn|Work | Kinda ... it should be commented understandably in the lua |
| 21:00.43 | Eraphine|Lab | I've tried clearfont, but I'm used to betterfonts |
| 21:00.54 | Kirkburn|Work | Which is broken afaik |
| 21:01.14 | Kirkburn|Work | If it wasn't updated for 1.9.3 it was broken :) |
| 21:01.16 | Eraphine|Lab | well - that's why if I can just write a small addon to load existing framexml font.xml people can just drop their font.xml in and voila |
| 21:01.25 | Eraphine|Lab | ya I've been adding in the new strings myself. |
| 21:01.27 | Shouryuu | ZOMG toastThief is here! |
| 21:01.37 | Shouryuu | haven't seen you since like christmas |
| 21:01.52 | Kirkburn|Work | Ooh, blimey wasn't updated for a loong time |
| 21:01.59 | ckknight | I like ClearFont |
| 21:02.07 | Kirkburn|Work | I like ckknight |
| 21:02.21 | Josh_Borke | Adrine: any news on HealCap? ^_^ |
| 21:02.29 | ckknight | personal bubble, Kirkburn|Work |
| 21:02.39 | Shouryuu | has anyone done that inner fire counter add-on? |
| 21:02.44 | Kirkburn|Work | Ahem ... time to get back to work |
| 21:02.53 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : It doesn't work the way it used to, yo need to take the ClearFont approach |
| 21:03.01 | Eraphine|Lab | :( |
| 21:03.16 | Eraphine|Lab | I can't make a .toc with font.xml in it and register the loadondemand event? |
| 21:03.19 | Eraphine|Lab | to reload ? |
| 21:03.43 | Shouryuu | I wrote some quick code for it yesterday but: 1) I wrote it, so it ain't going to work first time 2)I can't test it since I don't have WoW 3) I'm missing some buffs texture I can't get cause I don't have WoW |
| 21:03.43 | Kirkburn|Work | It's a possibility |
| 21:03.49 | Kirkburn|Work | I really can't say |
| 21:04.21 | Kirkburn|Work | Well, since I just noticed what Iriel said ... no :P |
| 21:04.33 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : You cant load it before the blizzard one |
| 21:04.39 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : So making your own has very little point |
| 21:05.01 | Legorol | US www servers poofed? |
| 21:05.21 | Shouryuu | I ate them! |
| 21:05.25 | Kirkburn|Work | rawr |
| 21:05.31 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 21:05.41 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : Unless the Font system works in a strange way divergent from all the other frames, which is possible, I suppose. |
| 21:06.02 | Eraphine|Lab | well, in the first loading, having it load "after" all the blizzard ones is good |
| 21:06.15 | Eraphine|Lab | it will replace the font strings |
| 21:06.28 | Kirkburn|Work | Also you have to deal with addons that make their own fonts |
| 21:06.28 | Eraphine|Lab | and if I register the event, addon loaded, to have it reload my font.xml every time |
| 21:06.38 | Eraphine|Lab | then won't my strings always be the most recent? |
| 21:07.00 | Iriel | There aren't any FontStrings in fonts.xml anymore |
| 21:07.20 | Shouryuu | aww what a bad bad bad play of words Ktron |
| 21:07.21 | Kirkburn|Work | Just ... fonts :) |
| 21:07.41 | Ktron | heh heh heh |
| 21:07.47 | Kirkburn|Work | slouken got tired of all the string |
| 21:08.04 | Shouryuu | lol I'm still contemplating it p |
| 21:08.07 | Eraphine|Lab | are you serious? |
| 21:08.22 | Iriel | Having said all that, some of the reported wierdness around ClearFonts when loading fonts.xml a second time is a bit inexplicable with the 'normal' loading mechanisms |
| 21:09.03 | Kirkburn|Work | I have a feeling I know why that was |
| 21:09.11 | Kirkburn|Work | SuperInspect defined it's own fonts |
| 21:09.31 | Kirkburn|Work | So it would have gone to it's own fonts despite any changes we made |
| 21:09.31 | Legorol | Iriel: my suspicion is that WoW has some form of caching mechanism (for what exactly I don't know) of the UI files |
| 21:09.39 | Legorol | which is why stuff would break on Reload UI |
| 21:09.48 | Iriel | Legorol : Contents, or identity, or what? |
| 21:09.55 | Iriel | Legorol : I reload UI's all the time after changing files |
| 21:09.59 | Legorol | i don't know... it's a wild hand-waving guess |
| 21:10.02 | Eraphine|Lab | why did blizzard move all it's fontstrings out of .xml? |
| 21:10.09 | Legorol | but you remember the issues with SubvertB? |
| 21:10.14 | Eraphine|Lab | I thought they just "added " the ability to create them in lua |
| 21:10.14 | Legorol | it didn't work after a reloadui |
| 21:10.18 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : Read the 1.10 changes thread, Fonts got entirely re-done |
| 21:10.35 | Eraphine|Lab | k iriel, I wasn't aware they were replacing the old one |
| 21:10.47 | Kirkburn|Work | the fonts.xml file is largely the same, but all the "fontstring" got replaced with "font" |
| 21:11.23 | Iriel | Legorol : I figured that was caused because "First load" and "Re load" take different initialization paths. Either way divergent behaviour is a bug there. |
| 21:12.16 | Kirkburn|Work | Eraphine|Lab: a sample line of the new fonts.xml ... <Font name="GameFontNormal" inherits="MasterFont" font="Fonts\FRIZQT__.TTF" virtual="true"> |
| 21:13.15 | ckknight | anyone on that can translate 2 lines from English to German? |
| 21:13.42 | AnduinLothar | no servers yet up? |
| 21:13.44 | Cide | I could do it to Swedish... :) |
| 21:13.57 | ckknight | that doesn't quite help, Cide |
| 21:14.02 | Cide | sorry :( |
| 21:14.04 | Shouryuu | awww |
| 21:14.32 | Kirkburn|Work | Schnell schnell! |
| 21:14.32 | Maldivia | Cide: you're Swedish? |
| 21:14.45 | Shouryuu | Katastrophen! |
| 21:14.53 | ckknight | Bitte, Kirkburn, bitte! |
| 21:14.55 | Kirkburn|Work | Neiiiiiin!!! |
| 21:15.45 | Kirkburn|Work | Deine mutter ist in meiner bett |
| 21:16.00 | Kirkburn|Work | (that quite possibly meant nothing) |
| 21:16.11 | ckknight | it's meiner Bett |
| 21:16.15 | ckknight | and Mutter, not mutter |
| 21:16.19 | Kirkburn|Work | Ich hasse du |
| 21:16.19 | ckknight | nouns are capitalized |
| 21:16.27 | Shouryuu | Deine mutter ist in meiner bett == that quite possibly meant nothing? |
| 21:16.32 | Shouryuu | aww |
| 21:16.33 | Shouryuu | meanie |
| 21:16.40 | Shouryuu | du hasse no one |
| 21:16.49 | Kirkburn|Work | I liebe Shouryuu |
| 21:16.50 | ckknight | it's du hasst |
| 21:16.53 | Kirkburn|Work | *ich! |
| 21:17.01 | ckknight | Du hasst keiner |
| 21:17.26 | Kirkburn|Work | Warum bist du so ... so ... ich weis nicht. Bah humbug |
| 21:17.30 | Shouryuu | awwww. I *almost* feel all warm and fuzzy inside |
| 21:17.49 | ckknight | Du bist ein Teddybär, Kirkburn |
| 21:17.59 | Kirkburn|Work | Ich bin ein Berliner! |
| 21:18.10 | ckknight | mmm...Jelly donut |
| 21:18.17 | Kirkburn|Work | Io devo fare italiano ora, ciao! |
| 21:18.39 | Maldivia | Men spørgsmålet er så: hvormange herinde forstår dansk ? :) |
| 21:18.43 | ckknight | bonjoirno |
| 21:18.53 | ckknight | Maldivia, the encoding messed up |
| 21:19.03 | ckknight | I see a bunch of messed up symbols |
| 21:19.17 | Shouryuu | yeah, I have Yens and A with ~ on them |
| 21:19.18 | Iriel | Other than GameTooltip:GetOwner() and some way to associate a FontString to a button for its Text, is there anything we know we want in 1.11 ? |
| 21:19.21 | Cide | Maldivia: yes, I'm Swedish |
| 21:19.38 | Maldivia | ckknight: that's because it's in UTF-8, just a sec, I'll switch |
| 21:19.48 | Kirkburn|lavoro | (ckknight, buongiorno) |
| 21:19.56 | ckknight | that's it |
| 21:19.58 | Maldivia | Men spørgsmålet er så: hvormange herinde forstår dansk ? :) |
| 21:20.01 | Maldivia | there you go |
| 21:20.12 | Shouryuu | so you're dutch? |
| 21:20.17 | Maldivia | nope |
| 21:20.20 | Cide | jag förstår danska någorlunda bra :) |
| 21:20.26 | ckknight | hey, how do you pronounce ø? I always wondered that |
| 21:20.44 | Kirkburn|lavoro | Murloc speak! |
| 21:20.58 | Cide | kind of hard to explain in english I think |
| 21:21.00 | Maldivia | Cide: svensk er heller ikke svært for mig at forstå :) |
| 21:21.05 | Kirkburn|lavoro | Since it is evident I won't do any more work until I leave .... byee |
| 21:21.11 | Cide | bye! |
| 21:21.13 | ckknight | cya |
| 21:21.15 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.19 | Maldivia | /wave |
| 21:21.27 | ckknight | doesn't lavoro mean wash or something? |
| 21:21.32 | Tem | Iriel: I want my mage to get a big of a buff as priests got |
| 21:22.00 | Tem | s/t a b/t as b/ |
| 21:22.13 | Tem | so, I hear the servers are still down? |
| 21:22.34 | Cide | aye |
| 21:22.57 | Maldivia | ckknight: but yeah, kind of hard to explain how to pronounce æøå .) |
| 21:23.26 | ckknight | I know everything but ø |
| 21:23.42 | ckknight | my math teacher took a day explaining it one day |
| 21:24.19 | Maldivia | ehh... ok? |
| 21:24.26 | Shouryuu | math teacher... |
| 21:24.30 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:24.34 | ckknight | he was a kook |
| 21:24.49 | Eraphine|Lab | ok I think with some minor modifications my font.xml can be adapted to the new format |
| 21:24.52 | Maldivia | the plot thickens |
| 21:25.00 | Eraphine|Lab | and then i'll just need to make sure they reloaded every time an addon loads |
| 21:25.16 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : Just use ClearFont as your example |
| 21:25.31 | Maldivia | Eraphine|Lab: hook the LoadAddon method (or what ever it's called) ? |
| 21:25.31 | Eraphine|Lab | right, but I wont' need nearly as much lua |
| 21:25.40 | Eraphine|Lab | yeah.. just Addon_Loaded |
| 21:25.41 | Iriel | Maldivia : Ugh, use the ADDON_LOADED event! |
| 21:25.47 | Tem | Iriel: it would be nice to have a way to override textures by their file. It would make addons that skin the interface possible again. (it is my understanding that putting files in the data folder no longer overrides game files.) |
| 21:25.50 | Maldivia | Iriel: ohh, yeah - that's better :) |
| 21:25.59 | Maldivia | Iriel: always forget about that event |
| 21:25.59 | Iriel | Tem: That is NOT my understanding |
| 21:26.14 | Eraphine|Lab | Tem, they didn't change that |
| 21:26.18 | Eraphine|Lab | data overrides still work. |
| 21:26.20 | Iriel | Tem: And I didn't see anyone complaining about it during test |
| 21:26.35 | Tem | So, they just broke the model changing? |
| 21:26.36 | Maldivia | as far as I know, it's only the xml/lua/toc files that's restricted |
| 21:26.42 | Maldivia | or rather, the FrameXML folder |
| 21:26.43 | Eraphine|Lab | model changing should not be broken. |
| 21:26.50 | Tem | I could swear I read they had broken that |
| 21:27.00 | Tem | oh well, I still want a way to do it in lua |
| 21:27.04 | Tem | the data folder is icky |
| 21:27.17 | Eraphine|Lab | I'm not sure why they "fixed' framexml, imo the model changing allows far more exploitation |
| 21:27.20 | Iriel | Tem: Enumerate all frames, then all regions, and change them. |
| 21:27.31 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 21:27.46 | Tem | yeah, that would work I spose |
| 21:27.54 | Shouryuu | could anyone with a numpad do me a "e" with and inverted ` above it for me? |
| 21:28.08 | Maldivia | é è |
| 21:28.22 | Tem | silly european keyboards with those extra keys |
| 21:28.25 | Maldivia | :) |
| 21:28.27 | Eraphine|Lab | awww CRAP |
| 21:28.30 | Shouryuu | thank you :P |
| 21:28.33 | ckknight | what? |
| 21:28.38 | Shouryuu | very much |
| 21:28.39 | Eraphine|Lab | are all addons that used fontstring broken now? |
| 21:28.46 | Maldivia | no |
| 21:28.56 | Maldivia | fontstrings still works... |
| 21:29.14 | Shouryuu | Tem: Sorry for having our own alphabet. First I'll do when I become president of Cheese land is ban french |
| 21:29.14 | Eraphine|Lab | is the <fontstring> </fonstring> tag still valid? |
| 21:29.17 | Cide | that would be 90% of all addons otherwise :) |
| 21:29.17 | Maldivia | and fontstrings inheriting fontstring defined in Fonts.xml also work, even though it's not Font |
| 21:29.35 | Tem | Shouryuu: lol I don't have a problem with french |
| 21:29.39 | Cide | it was fully backwards compatible as far as I could tell on test |
| 21:29.43 | Eraphine|Lab | so really, I could just take the font.xml I have right now in my framexml directory ? |
| 21:29.49 | Eraphine|Lab | my 1.9 font.xml |
| 21:29.51 | Tem | After all my great-grandmother doesn't know english |
| 21:29.58 | Tem | she only speaks french |
| 21:30.06 | Tem | well, spoke french |
| 21:30.06 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 21:30.09 | Tem | like when she was alive |
| 21:30.41 | Tem | oh, it was cajun french too |
| 21:30.46 | Shouryuu | awww |
| 21:30.52 | Shouryuu | I love those types of languages |
| 21:30.53 | ckknight | hehe, I'm British through and through ;-) I think the only non-English speaking ancestor I had was a German woman 5 generations back |
| 21:30.54 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : "No", is probably the answer to whatever you're going to finish with 8-) |
| 21:30.57 | Tem | that means all you proper frenchies wouldn't know what she was talking about |
| 21:30.58 | Shouryuu | bastard languages are the best |
| 21:31.00 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:31.10 | Shouryuu | bastard languages are the richest of them all |
| 21:31.22 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : Unless you were about to add "And then call :Set* methods on the various Font objects to set them to match my 1.9 configuratoin" |
| 21:31.37 | zeeg | For anyone interested: http://wow.mmofiles.com/patches/4972/wow-1.9.4-to-1.10.0-enus-patch.html - feel free to add any public links you know of |
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| 21:32.09 | Eraphine|Lab | Yeah.... sure |
| 21:32.27 | Tem | Cajun french is awesome |
| 21:32.32 | Eraphine|Lab | I need to read more. |
| 21:33.14 | Shouryuu | In singapore people spoke Singlish, a mix of tamul (Indian), Bahasa (malay), Mandarin and english. Sooooo cooool |
| 21:33.20 | Shouryuu | well speak |
| 21:33.25 | Tem | woah |
| 21:33.47 | Eraphine|Lab | is your 1.10 changelog mirrored somewhere Iriel ? wow is being slow for me |
| 21:34.03 | zeeg | the official changelog? |
| 21:34.12 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : No, but I could probably email you a recent version |
| 21:34.33 | Eraphine|Lab | the ui changelog zeeg |
| 21:34.46 | Eraphine|Lab | let me try again to get t oteh thread |
| 21:34.54 | Eraphine|Lab | yay got it |
| 21:36.05 | Tem | props to Dolby, the low bw version of wowi is up and fast |
| 21:36.38 | Shouryuu | while I'm translating, if anyone wants a french/english translation of spells, here it is http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/index.php?page=competences |
| 21:37.16 | Iriel | Oh, now I think about it, Cairenn mirrors it to WoWInterface |
| 21:38.46 | Tem | Shouryuu: do you have that for any other classes? |
| 21:39.05 | Shouryuu | all of them |
| 21:39.07 | Tem | nevermind, I'm stupid |
| 21:39.09 | Shouryuu | classes are at the top :p |
| 21:39.11 | Eraphine|Lab | hrm.. replacing fonts with inheritances is no longer arbitrary |
| 21:39.41 | Eraphine|Lab | so blizzard changed font.xml to use simplehtml? is that a correct assessment? |
| 21:39.51 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : Err, no. |
| 21:40.09 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : VIRTUAL FontStrings are largely a thing of the past |
| 21:40.17 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : Replaced with the exciting new 'Font' object |
| 21:40.27 | ckknight | I'm excited |
| 21:40.32 | Eraphine|Lab | i'm just confused |
| 21:40.32 | Shouryuu | loool |
| 21:40.35 | Eraphine|Lab | oh well |
| 21:40.39 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : inherits= on a FontString now gets its properties from a Font object |
| 21:40.45 | Tem | Shouryuu: the french spells all use "level" instead of "rank"? |
| 21:41.01 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : You can change the underlying Font object at runtime and all inheriting FontStrings (or other objects) now have the change take effect on them in real time |
| 21:41.05 | Shouryuu | Niveau, not rank |
| 21:41.05 | Tem | ie Immolation Trap level 1 |
| 21:41.10 | Shouryuu | Niveau 1 |
| 21:41.13 | Iriel | Eraphine|Lab : So you can change the 'base' fonts on the fly, at run time |
| 21:41.14 | Tem | strange |
| 21:41.26 | Shouryuu | not really |
| 21:41.27 | Tem | or, do you guys use a different word for "level"? |
| 21:41.30 | Eraphine|Lab | ah, instead of having to reloadui |
| 21:41.33 | Shouryuu | nope |
| 21:41.55 | Shouryuu | yeah maybe it's weird |
| 21:42.07 | Tem | meh, not that weird |
| 21:42.10 | Tem | just different |
| 21:42.14 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:42.29 | Shouryuu | rank = rang, but Niveau 1 sounds better than rang 1 |
| 21:42.57 | Shouryuu | In french you'd say I have the first level of that spell more than the first rank |
| 21:42.59 | zeeg | Anyone got a version # |
| 21:43.01 | zeeg | for the patch |
| 21:43.10 | ckknight | 5195 |
| 21:43.15 | zeeg | thats for live? |
| 21:43.32 | ckknight | afaik |
| 21:43.40 | zeeg | can anyone confirm? |
| 21:43.42 | zeeg | Maldivia? :D |
| 21:43.45 | ckknight | 1.10.0.5195 |
| 21:43.48 | MentalPower | checking... |
| 21:43.48 | zeeg | alright |
| 21:43.49 | zeeg | thanks |
| 21:43.52 | Maldivia | WoW-1.9.4.5086-to-1.10.0.5195-enUS-downloader.exe <-- |
| 21:43.57 | Maldivia | take a guess :) |
| 21:43.58 | zeeg | good deal |
| 21:44.20 | MentalPower | Version 1.10.0 (5195) |
| 21:44.55 | Iriel | Exact same build as was on test, handy. |
| 21:45.33 | zeeg | ya thats why i wasnt sure ;) |
| 21:45.45 | Tem | oh, I just thouhd I'd add this in case you guys care |
| 21:45.54 | Tem | Ragnaros is scarier in French |
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| 21:46.11 | zeeg | O.o |
| 21:46.22 | Tem | lol @ opening an extra client |
| 21:47.08 | Shouryuu | lol why is Ragnaros scarier in french? |
| 21:47.24 | Tem | he doesn't sound as retarded |
| 21:47.39 | Tem | "TOO SOON EXECUTUS!" makes me laugh |
| 21:47.43 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:48.06 | Shouryuu | haven't tries him either in french or english, but usualy french sounds 1000 times worst than english |
| 21:48.14 | Shouryuu | s/tries/tried/ |
| 21:48.16 | Tem | aww |
| 21:48.23 | Tem | Rag is fun |
| 21:48.35 | Tem | he pops up and yells at Major Domo |
| 21:48.43 | Tem | in a deep "scary" voice |
| 21:48.51 | Maldivia | Tem: I like C'thun's whispers in AQ... "You're already dead"... |
| 21:49.01 | Tem | I haven't been there yet |
| 21:49.06 | Shouryuu | me neither |
| 21:49.16 | Shouryuu | never even set foot anywher near that place |
| 21:49.16 | Tem | and I don't really have any desire to |
| 21:49.20 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:49.22 | Maldivia | just zone in, and you'll get whispers from c'thun ever 5 minutes or so |
| 21:49.23 | Tem | screw Silithus |
| 21:49.25 | Shouryuu | the items are just 0_o |
| 21:49.31 | Tem | I hate the zone |
| 21:49.35 | Shouryuu | awww |
| 21:49.42 | Tem | the items in AQ40 aren't worth the effort |
| 21:49.42 | Shouryuu | still, the items just ROCK |
| 21:49.50 | Tem | I'd rather be in NW |
| 21:49.57 | Shouryuu | NW? |
| 21:50.00 | Maldivia | there are some nice utility items... |
| 21:50.01 | Tem | Netherwind |
| 21:50.02 | Maldivia | Netherwind |
| 21:50.10 | Shouryuu | NW is where? |
| 21:50.25 | Tem | BWL |
| 21:50.28 | Shouryuu | ah |
| 21:50.42 | Maldivia | NW = Mage Tier 2 armor = BWL drops, Ragnaros and Onyxia |
| 21:50.53 | Tem | Alright Shouryuu, where can I find the spells like "Find minerals" "Find Treasure" "Find herbs"? |
| 21:51.30 | Maldivia | the fresh translations ? |
| 21:51.40 | Tem | yeah I need french translations for those 3 spells |
| 21:51.48 | Shouryuu | look in the Proffesions group, on the left bar |
| 21:52.00 | Tem | server keeps timing out |
| 21:52.01 | Shouryuu | I can't load shit |
| 21:52.06 | Shouryuu | same |
| 21:52.09 | Shouryuu | so it isn't me |
| 21:52.33 | Maldivia | Find Herbs = Découverte d'herbes |
| 21:52.41 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 21:52.54 | Maldivia | Find Minerals = Découverte de gisements |
| 21:53.02 | Tem | is that exact? |
| 21:53.05 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:53.09 | Shouryuu | sounds fine to me |
| 21:53.14 | Tem | captialization and everything? |
| 21:53.16 | Maldivia | Find Treasure = Découverte de trésors |
| 21:53.25 | Maldivia | it's from the spell dbc file |
| 21:53.38 | Tem | from the what? |
| 21:53.55 | Tem | is this something I would have already? |
| 21:54.00 | Tem | so I could stop bothering people? |
| 21:54.08 | Shouryuu | I think so yeah |
| 21:54.11 | Maldivia | if you have the french client, then yes |
| 21:54.12 | Shouryuu | not the bothering part |
| 21:54.15 | Shouryuu | the I already have part |
| 21:54.18 | Shouryuu | aww damn |
| 21:54.26 | Shouryuu | so the bothering part continues |
| 21:54.52 | Maldivia | start MyWarcraftStudio or a similar prog, and go to DBFilesClient\Spells.dbc |
| 21:54.54 | Shouryuu | I was excpeting a ~lart but you were lenient |
| 21:55.33 | Maldivia | Tem: or search Wowguru, it has german and frensh translations for spells |
| 21:55.44 | Tem | oh cool |
| 21:56.38 | Shouryuu | night folks |
| 21:56.42 | Maldivia | night |
| 21:57.53 | zeeg | and chinese! |
| 21:57.55 | zeeg | :D |
| 21:57.59 | Maldivia | :) |
| 21:59.43 | zeeg | btw im adding <translations> to the xml |
| 21:59.56 | Tem | is Aufspüren der Wildtiere right for german Beast Tracking? |
| 22:00.04 | Tem | because the french one is wrong |
| 22:00.34 | zeeg | on wowguru its wrong? |
| 22:00.50 | Tem | yeah |
| 22:00.54 | zeeg | you sure you're ont he right spell |
| 22:00.58 | Tem | no |
| 22:01.00 | zeeg | :P |
| 22:01.07 | zeeg | check player abils only |
| 22:01.11 | zeeg | if you're searching |
| 22:01.12 | Tem | but I'm still pretty sure the name is wrong |
| 22:01.16 | zeeg | blizz has a *lot* of spells |
| 22:01.20 | zeeg | some are dif things |
| 22:01.23 | zeeg | but named the same |
| 22:01.24 | Tem | it just has the french word for "Track" |
| 22:01.25 | zeeg | so they dont translate the same |
| 22:01.49 | Tem | alright, yeah the player version is fine |
| 22:01.57 | Maldivia | Pistage des bêtes |
| 22:02.28 | Maldivia | Aufspüren der Wildtiere <-- directly translated: "tracking the wild animals" |
| 22:02.34 | zeeg | A lot of people need translations, can you guys recommend any better way for setting that up for people? |
| 22:03.59 | Maldivia | zeeg: spell tooltip bug :) |
| 22:04.41 | krka | my opinion is: let the french/german/korean users translate it themselves and then send back their working translation |
| 22:04.52 | Maldivia | zeeg: on the search result list, range and mana is right next to eachother, cast with cast time and cooldown - instead of left and right justified |
| 22:05.23 | Maldivia | *same with* |
| 22:06.15 | zeeg | hit f5 |
| 22:06.17 | zeeg | does it fix? |
| 22:06.26 | zeeg | krka, this is all automated |
| 22:06.30 | zeeg | the translations are 100% correct :) |
| 22:06.40 | Tem | the new toc number is 11000, right? |
| 22:06.44 | zeeg | ya |
| 22:06.45 | Maldivia | Tem: yep |
| 22:06.48 | Maldivia | zeeg: nope |
| 22:07.06 | Maldivia | zeeg: the text that's supposed to be on the right side, is to the left of the left text |
| 22:07.14 | zeeg | hrm |
| 22:07.20 | zeeg | k ill go look |
| 22:07.24 | zeeg | i changed the css a few days ago but im not sure |
| 22:07.59 | zeeg | OH |
| 22:08.00 | zeeg | i kow |
| 22:09.10 | zeeg | fixed |
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| 22:09.43 | zeeg | search results are cached |
| 22:09.46 | zeeg | so refreshing it wont look any dif |
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| 22:10.20 | Maldivia | zeeg: btw, search for the spell Deserter - it's listed twice, same spell id though |
| 22:11.00 | Maldivia | and yes, the spell tooltips looks fine now |
| 22:11.04 | MentalPower | ok... why aren't the US servers up yet? |
| 22:11.32 | zeeg | hrm |
| 22:11.44 | zeeg | extended maint |
| 22:11.57 | ckknight | because you touch yourself at night, MentalPower |
| 22:12.02 | Maldivia | hmm... they're trying to have both the US server and the EU servers down at the same time ? |
| 22:12.28 | MentalPower | ckknight: right... |
| 22:12.31 | zeeg | i wonder how the hell that happened Maldivia |
| 22:13.44 | Maldivia | all spells are listed twice! |
| 22:13.49 | zeeg | O.o |
| 22:13.50 | MentalPower | maintenance was "supposed" to be over at 11am PST for most servers and 2pm PST for a select few its already 2:15pm PST and NONE of the servers are up yet |
| 22:13.54 | zeeg | hrm |
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| 22:14.02 | zeeg | Maldivia, ill try wiping the db when things slow down |
| 22:14.05 | zeeg | maybe somehow it duplicated |
| 22:14.33 | Maldivia | MentalPower: no, it got pushed |
| 22:15.00 | MentalPower | really? |
| 22:15.03 | MentalPower | link? |
| 22:16.26 | Maldivia | well, wow.com is down right now, so can't :) |
| 22:16.42 | MentalPower | yeah, I was just about to say that |
| 22:16.56 | Maldivia | it was pushed to 1pm |
| 22:17.04 | MentalPower | is it a forum post or a front-page news item? |
| 22:17.12 | Maldivia | "Some of the more in depth features of the 1.10 content patch are taking longer to apply than we originally anticipated. Therefore, todays realm maintenance will be extended to approximately 1:00PM PST. Realms originally scheduled to be brought up at 2:00 PM PST (listed below) are still on schedule to go live at this time." |
| 22:17.27 | Maldivia | Was the login notice, for a while - until worldofwarcraft.com went down |
| 22:17.51 | MentalPower | ah, I see. thanks Maldivia :) |
| 22:18.15 | Maldivia | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/alert <-- Login notice |
| 22:18.44 | zeeg | wowguru has wow.com's news |
| 22:18.46 | zeeg | oh |
| 22:20.41 | Maldivia | :) |
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| 22:26.00 | JoshBorke | hm |
| 22:26.07 | JoshBorke | the wow update requires nearly 2GB of space... |
| 22:26.31 | Osagasu | Well it is pretty big |
| 22:26.50 | JoshBorke | i don't have that much space |
| 22:26.51 | Osagasu | but remember, that about half of that is changed content, not entirely new |
| 22:26.56 | Maldivia | JoshBorke: it makes a copy of patch.mpq - so yes, around 2gb |
| 22:26.57 | Osagasu | not good |
| 22:27.08 | JoshBorke | well, let's see what happens when i patch anyway |
| 22:29.12 | JoshBorke | ah, WoWTest: 1.3GB |
| 22:29.16 | JoshBorke | plenty of room now |
| 22:29.52 | ckknight | shoot, anyone know how to turn Ö into a string in lua? |
| 22:29.57 | Osagasu | ya, I should probably delete mine too |
| 22:29.59 | ckknight | I don't know the backslash codes |
| 22:30.02 | JoshBorke | tostring? |
| 22:30.06 | JoshBorke | oh, that |
| 22:30.12 | JoshBorke | sorry, i read '0' lol |
| 22:30.20 | Osagasu | hehe, my dad got pissed because I linuxed up my laptop |
| 22:30.25 | ckknight | it's capital O with an umlaut |
| 22:30.35 | Maldivia | Ö = U+00D6 |
| 22:30.55 | ckknight | so how would I make that into a lua string? |
| 22:30.59 | Maldivia | ckknight: it's called diaeresis :) |
| 22:31.06 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:31.12 | Maldivia | unlaut :) |
| 22:31.19 | ckknight | alright |
| 22:32.55 | Maldivia | hmm, \00D6 ? |
| 22:33.02 | Maldivia | can't remember :) |
| 22:33.51 | Maldivia | \214 should probably work |
| 22:34.35 | ckknight | no |
| 22:34.44 | ckknight | has to be unicode |
| 22:34.53 | ckknight | it'll be \195\### |
| 22:35.36 | ckknight | for example, ä is \195\164 |
| 22:36.17 | Maldivia | hmm, ok |
| 22:36.58 | ckknight | got it |
| 22:37.13 | JoshBorke | what is it? |
| 22:37.14 | Osagasu | This is driving me nuts |
| 22:37.30 | ckknight | \195\150 |
| 22:37.36 | ckknight | http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/unitestx.htm#UCA00 |
| 22:38.09 | Tem | ckknight: why not just use a Unicode Editor? |
| 22:38.35 | ckknight | cause I don't have one |
| 22:38.56 | Maldivia | Notepad ? |
| 22:39.01 | Tem | the you need a better text editor |
| 22:39.10 | Tem | s/e y/en y/ |
| 22:40.01 | Maldivia | which editors are you using ckknight ? |
| 22:40.20 | ckknight | I use Notepad2 |
| 22:40.42 | ckknight | so I need to do stuff like \195\150 when dealing with localization, no biggie |
| 22:40.44 | zeeg | ckknight |
| 22:40.44 | Miravlix | Scite, Ultraedit,(X)emacs |
| 22:40.46 | zeeg | that's UTF-8 |
| 22:41.00 | Maldivia | Notepad2 supports UTF-8 |
| 22:41.06 | ckknight | I know |
| 22:42.25 | ckknight | and I suppose I could do that... |
| 22:42.34 | ckknight | instead of going with the backslash route |
| 22:43.57 | ckknight | anyone know the translations for Booty Bay? |
| 22:44.53 | zeeg | i dont think my pages show area translations |
| 22:44.54 | zeeg | i should go add that |
| 22:47.57 | ckknight | also, is there a translation for Gadgetzan? |
| 22:48.05 | ckknight | doesn't seem like there would be... |
| 22:48.44 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 22:49.03 | Guillotine | happy patch day everyone |
| 22:49.37 | ckknight | how bout Hyjal? |
| 22:52.49 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine_ (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 22:53.18 | Guillotine_ | alright, anyone know a binary to text translator? |
| 22:53.22 | Guillotine_ | I don't feel like doing it manually |
| 22:54.38 | Gryphen | http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php |
| 22:55.02 | Guillotine_ | yay :D <3 the gryphen |
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| 22:56.17 | Shouryuu | sleep my a** |
| 22:56.34 | *** join/#wowi-lounge kremonte (n=dan@ool-18bba4ea.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:56.38 | Maldivia | Guillotine: you might want to skip the first binary block :) |
| 22:56.46 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.52 | kremonte | if anybody needs the patch still, i have a mirror uploaded |
| 22:56.53 | kremonte | http://www.dan-rouse.com/wow-1.9.4.5086-to-1.10.0.5195-enus-patch.exe |
| 22:57.16 | kremonte | i had a heck of a time getting it :( |
| 22:57.23 | Gryphen | :o |
| 22:57.41 | Gryphen | lots of places for it by now |
| 22:57.41 | Maldivia | I just used the downloader, didn't take long |
| 22:57.43 | Gryphen | should be easy |
| 22:57.50 | kremonte | downloader took forever =/ |
| 22:57.53 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 22:57.59 | Shouryuu | downloader doesn't always work |
| 22:58.20 | Guillotine_ | i used www.wowupload.com |
| 22:58.22 | Guillotine_ | amazingly fast |
| 22:58.23 | Maldivia | well, the downloader didn't move the first 30 minutes, then I went to the bathroom, and it was patching when I returned to the computer :) |
| 22:58.48 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:58.54 | kremonte | i'm trying to make something right now that animates buttons in a circle |
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| 22:59.01 | kremonte | circles are, in fact, the root of all evil |
| 22:59.16 | Shouryuu | the square root of all evil |
| 22:59.16 | ToastTheif | that's because they're infinigons |
| 22:59.17 | Gryphen | someone had a dir link posted at 8:40 am pst this morning which i grabbed it from |
| 22:59.26 | Shouryuu | infinigons... |
| 22:59.28 | kremonte | yup ToastTheif ._. |
| 22:59.33 | kremonte | bah. |
| 22:59.35 | kremonte | screw this |
| 22:59.50 | kremonte | anybody want to kill me in cs or something D; |
| 22:59.53 | ToastTheif | yes, infinigons |
| 23:00.02 | Shouryuu | hey ToastTheif do you still want those MC Solaar CDs? |
| 23:00.11 | Shouryuu | lol krem I would but I don't have CS =( |
| 23:00.12 | Guillotine_ | well, our spoofing days are over :( |
| 23:00.15 | kremonte | ToastTheif, here's me question - do circles actually have any sides? =/ |
| 23:00.17 | Maldivia | kremonte: sorry, nope... I'm getting some sleep instead :) |
| 23:00.19 | kremonte | Guillotine_.. ;) |
| 23:00.20 | ToastTheif | of course I do Shour |
| 23:00.32 | ToastTheif | the sides are so small that they are infinite |
| 23:00.42 | kremonte | which would mean there are no sides |
| 23:00.57 | ToastTheif | think of it this way, take a polygon, like a hexagon and add as many sides as you can |
| 23:01.06 | ToastTheif | sooner or later, it would start to look like a circle |
| 23:01.09 | kremonte | you can never have a circle |
| 23:01.14 | kremonte | you can emulate a circle, but can't have one |
| 23:01.24 | kremonte | to have sides on a connecting object they must be finite, or 0, circles have 0 =/ |
| 23:01.25 | Shouryuu | I know :P |
| 23:01.33 | kremonte | bah |
| 23:01.45 | Shouryuu | just never heard the term infinigons |
| 23:02.05 | kremonte | so really, circles wouldn't be infinigons, they'd be zerogons |
| 23:02.07 | ToastTheif | well I was bored one day in math class |
| 23:02.17 | ToastTheif | so I was thinking about infinigons |
| 23:02.20 | Shouryuu | do you know what Chiligons are? |
| 23:02.27 | ToastTheif | nope |
| 23:02.35 | kremonte | illegal immigrants in the US from Chile |
| 23:02.36 | kremonte | ? |
| 23:02.38 | Shouryuu | a polygon with 1000 sides! |
| 23:02.47 | Shouryuu | now that's useful things to know |
| 23:02.49 | Shouryuu | kremonte lol |
| 23:03.10 | kremonte | http://infinigon.com/ |
| 23:03.21 | Tem | wow, still no servers |
| 23:03.27 | kremonte | nope =/ |
| 23:03.30 | ToastTheif | I know Tem :( |
| 23:03.34 | Maldivia | so... a duogon is 2 sides? |
| 23:03.38 | kremonte | i wanna either play cs or gunbound or something |
| 23:03.46 | kremonte | duogons can't exist, can they? |
| 23:03.53 | kremonte | in the realm of reality |
| 23:03.55 | kremonte | not theory. |
| 23:03.59 | ckknight | right |
| 23:04.08 | ToastTheif | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=infinigon |
| 23:04.09 | Maldivia | a duagon would be a line |
| 23:04.10 | ckknight | gotta have at least 3 sides to exist in reality |
| 23:04.19 | kremonte | Maldivia: in the terms of reality |
| 23:04.21 | Legorol | is it a duagon or a bigon |
| 23:04.26 | kremonte | digon?!?!?!? |
| 23:04.28 | Maldivia | begone? |
| 23:04.32 | kremonte | PARABOLA |
| 23:04.34 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:04.38 | Tem | lol that's awesome |
| 23:04.58 | kremonte | that ud is wrong =/ |
| 23:05.04 | kremonte | circles have 0 sides |
| 23:05.20 | ToastTheif | I googled infinigon one day |
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| 23:05.28 | ToastTheif | there's this whole theory thing |
| 23:05.34 | ToastTheif | something about some math thing |
| 23:05.35 | Cide | an infinite number of sides would kind of accomplish the same thing |
| 23:05.52 | kremonte | but then could it really exist, cide? |
| 23:05.59 | Maldivia | wouldn't it be niligon instead of zerogon? |
| 23:05.59 | Cide | I have no idea |
| 23:06.02 | kremonte | you can't really have infinity of anything on earth |
| 23:06.08 | kremonte | the whole distance outside of earth thing..eh |
| 23:06.08 | Cide | well |
| 23:06.10 | Tem | a, REGULAR, infinigon would be pretty much a circle |
| 23:06.22 | kremonte | riddle me this |
| 23:06.28 | kremonte | if a circle has infinite sides |
| 23:06.32 | Cide | circles can't exist on earth, either :) |
| 23:06.34 | kremonte | then no perfect circle can or has ever existed :) |
| 23:06.39 | kremonte | WHICH MEANS |
| 23:06.39 | ckknight | right. |
| 23:06.47 | kremonte | the band "Perfect Circle" is simply... a lie.. |
| 23:06.54 | Cide | oh noes! :) |
| 23:07.01 | Tem | I like your reasoning |
| 23:07.02 | Maldivia | oxymoron |
| 23:07.13 | ToastTheif | what was that thing called.. |
| 23:07.21 | ToastTheif | like a hexacurve or something |
| 23:07.26 | kremonte | ._. |
| 23:07.29 | Cide | Tem: can you create an infinigon that is not regular? |
| 23:07.36 | Cide | well, I guess you can |
| 23:07.53 | Cide | by having for example a half circle |
| 23:08.00 | Tem | aye |
| 23:08.04 | Shouryuu | elipse come to mind as well? |
| 23:08.13 | Tem | yeah |
| 23:08.23 | Tem | any curved, closed path really |
| 23:08.26 | Maldivia | gon means side? |
| 23:08.39 | ToastTheif | the infinigon goes back to that whole .999~ =1 thing if I remember |
| 23:09.04 | ckknight | I like APC |
| 23:09.37 | Tem | the 1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 == 1, 1/3 = .333(repeating) .333 +.333+.333 == .9999 thing? |
| 23:09.39 | Maldivia | the urban dict is false... infini gon doesn't mean infite sides, it means infinite angles |
| 23:10.10 | ToastTheif | yeah Tem |
| 23:10.13 | kremonte | anybody want to play any game with me? :( |
| 23:10.16 | kremonte | i'm lonely and bored |
| 23:10.27 | ToastTheif | anyone know of a fast way to transfer lots of stuff? |
| 23:10.37 | Ktron | I'm study for a statistical analysis test |
| 23:10.39 | JIMtheInventor | FedEx? |
| 23:10.39 | kremonte | cars |
| 23:10.57 | Cide | optic wire? :P |
| 23:11.08 | kremonte | computers..? |
| 23:11.15 | ToastTheif | yes, with computers |
| 23:11.18 | ToastTheif | but how |
| 23:11.27 | Cide | optic wires, some technology and light |
| 23:11.30 | Shouryuu | he means from me to him |
| 23:11.30 | Ktron | IRC? |
| 23:11.44 | Shouryuu | 300MB file |
| 23:11.48 | Ktron | direct transfer or... not direct transfer |
| 23:11.49 | kremonte | dcc |
| 23:11.50 | Shouryuu | don't get any wrong ideas |
| 23:12.15 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 23:12.24 | kremonte | well then, CS time :x |
| 23:12.47 | Crispy|Work | HILO All! |
| 23:12.49 | Shouryuu | lucky you.... you have CS |
| 23:12.54 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.07 | kremonte | lol |
| 23:13.13 | kremonte | shouryuu, do you have it? just not dl'ed? |
| 23:13.23 | Shouryuu | nothing =( |
| 23:13.27 | Shouryuu | no cd, nothing |
| 23:13.28 | Maldivia | night |
| 23:13.33 | *** part/#wowi-lounge ComicSansMS (i=ComicSan@p54A61D13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:14.02 | kremonte | http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4912/murmurmur9jc.jpg |
| 23:14.03 | kremonte | lawl |
| 23:14.09 | Legorol | ok I have a confession to make |
| 23:14.16 | Crispix | Your a horde Legorol? |
| 23:14.16 | Legorol | I don't know exactly what Counter Strike is |
| 23:14.22 | Legorol | i know it's an FPS |
| 23:14.23 | Ktron | a game |
| 23:14.24 | kremonte | ._. |
| 23:14.27 | Crispix | ... hmm.. just about as bad.. |
| 23:14.27 | Legorol | is it free? how do i get it? |
| 23:14.27 | Ktron | that's all you need to know |
| 23:14.27 | kremonte | lego |
| 23:14.28 | kremonte | buy it |
| 23:14.29 | kremonte | $30 |
| 23:14.32 | kremonte | over internets |
| 23:14.36 | Legorol | it costs money? i heard it's fre |
| 23:14.38 | Legorol | *free |
| 23:14.41 | kremonte | no? lol |
| 23:14.42 | Crispix | :o.. no ones listening to me.. *laughing* |
| 23:14.46 | Kirov | There's a free version, yes |
| 23:14.48 | Ktron | it's not fit for human consumption |
| 23:15.01 | Legorol | so what's the difference in free and paid version |
| 23:15.04 | Crispix | Soooo Ummm... everyone.. |
| 23:15.08 | Legorol | is it like open source vs. supported software? |
| 23:15.09 | Ktron | kremonte, where did you find the murloc link? |
| 23:15.16 | Crispix | Should I load my UI or.... see what the default ui looks like now? |
| 23:15.43 | Crispix | wtf... |
| 23:15.48 | Crispix | The Realms aren't up? |
| 23:16.03 | Kirov | Legorol - Old (free) version is a user made addon to Half-Life that eventually became a retail addon, then there was a retail stand alone, and is now a retail addon to Half-Life 2 |
| 23:16.42 | Crispix | erm.. can someone tell me wtf is up? |
| 23:16.43 | kremonte | Ktron: got linked in #warsong on stratics |
| 23:16.47 | Crispix | The realms aren't up |
| 23:17.20 | Legorol | Kirov: Counter Strike is related to Half Life? |
| 23:17.22 | Legorol | didn't know ... |
| 23:17.29 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 23:17.34 | Shouryuu | used to be an addon |
| 23:17.53 | Ktron | kremonte, ah |
| 23:17.59 | Legorol | so if it's an addon for Half-Life.. is there an updated version that's an addon for Half-Life 2? |
| 23:18.06 | Kirov | Legorol - Counter Strike is literally the ONLY reason Half-Life is as popular as it is today. |
| 23:18.08 | Ktron | not as of yet |
| 23:18.19 | kremonte | Legorol - there won't be. |
| 23:18.32 | Legorol | and my last question: if it's an addon, how can there be a retail stand alone? |
| 23:18.57 | Tem | Iriel: be careful with your cookie promises |
| 23:18.57 | kremonte | it's _not_ an addon now |
| 23:19.00 | Legorol | and when people say: "buy counterstrike", are they talking about just the addon, or Half-Life + addon, or this retail standalone thing? |
| 23:19.04 | Tem | Iriel: who will make all those cookies? |
| 23:19.05 | Kirov | http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/counter-strike-condition-zero/ |
| 23:19.14 | kremonte | talking about HL2... CS Source |
| 23:19.16 | kremonte | CS is standalone |
| 23:19.24 | Tem | Iriel: and what safeguards are there for prevent useless additions just for the sake of getting more cookies? |
| 23:19.33 | Tem | s/prevent/preventing/ |
| 23:19.52 | Kirov | Counter Strike: Condition Zero also came out for the XBox |
| 23:20.00 | Kirov | I think |
| 23:20.06 | Kirov | Or at least they were working on it |
| 23:20.51 | kremonte | it came out |
| 23:20.52 | kremonte | my brother had it |
| 23:20.54 | kremonte | it sucked the big one |
| 23:21.05 | Shouryuu | on PC as well |
| 23:21.06 | kremonte | i came and saw him playing dust2 and like vomited in my poenis |
| 23:21.20 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:21.23 | kremonte | i heard all this hype and actually wanted to play it |
| 23:21.26 | kremonte | and i saw it was like |
| 23:21.27 | Kirov | lovely image, thank you |
| 23:21.27 | kremonte | playing.. |
| 23:21.41 | Shouryuu | really boring game |
| 23:21.42 | kremonte | like playing something bad. |
| 23:21.45 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 23:21.49 | Crispix | O__O |
| 23:21.57 | Crispix | The servers STILL aren't up?! |
| 23:22.28 | ToastTheif | you guys know, if you google my WoW chars name, Im the 3rd result =P |
| 23:22.31 | Shouryuu | That ought to teach you, goddamn CRACK addicts |
| 23:22.32 | Crispix | *Tear* I wanted to play when I got home :( |
| 23:22.40 | Shouryuu | awww |
| 23:22.49 | ToastTheif | I feel special being the 3rd result on goggle |
| 23:22.51 | ToastTheif | google* |
| 23:22.58 | kremonte | http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html |
| 23:23.00 | kremonte | ooeeeooo |
| 23:23.24 | kremonte | i didn't know so many people used 6600's |
| 23:23.26 | Crispix | ToastTheif google 'Crispix world of warcraft' |
| 23:23.40 | Crispix | hit I'm feeeling lucky |
| 23:23.51 | Crispix | first result ^__^ |
| 23:24.20 | ToastTheif | google 'Twidge' =P |
| 23:24.30 | ToastTheif | if you do 'Twidge WoW' Im the first ^^ |
| 23:24.37 | Cairenn | *sigh* Blizz forums down for anyone else? |
| 23:24.44 | Shouryuu | me |
| 23:24.45 | kremonte | lol, i'm feeling lucky for "kremonte" :D |
| 23:24.48 | kremonte | Yup. |
| 23:24.51 | Crispix | brb,..... |
| 23:24.53 | kremonte | sure are cair |
| 23:24.55 | ToastTheif | oh wiat! |
| 23:25.02 | ToastTheif | Im second result for 'Twidge' now |
| 23:25.21 | ckknight | anyone speak German? |
| 23:25.59 | Kirov | Cairenn - you said there was a way to make wowi always load in lite mode, right? |
| 23:26.11 | Cairenn | yeah, in your user control panel |
| 23:26.16 | ToastTheif | I speak 8 languages, but not german |
| 23:26.17 | Cairenn | select it as your style :p |
| 23:26.25 | Crispix | *sniff sniff*.. |
| 23:26.37 | Osagasu | *lol* |
| 23:26.39 | ckknight | bad, ToastTheif |
| 23:26.39 | Crispix | WoW isn't back up.. I wanted to see how badly my UI would explode. |
| 23:26.53 | Osagasu | EVERY search result on Google for Osagasu is mine |
| 23:27.00 | Osagasu | I have an entire Google search to myself! =D |
| 23:27.06 | ToastTheif | German isn't my thing |
| 23:27.35 | ToastTheif | Im more of a C++, Java, geek, 1337, french, english, VB, guy |
| 23:27.46 | ToastTheif | and Ghetto, of course |
| 23:27.54 | Kirov | Cairenn - what section? |
| 23:28.11 | Gryphen | options |
| 23:28.12 | ckknight | ToastTheif... |
| 23:28.15 | ckknight | don't count computer languages |
| 23:28.19 | ckknight | if you do that, I have you trumped |
| 23:28.24 | Cairenn | what Gryphen said |
| 23:28.47 | Kirov | hmm... I'm not seeing it |
| 23:28.49 | ToastTheif | Yes, Ckk? |
| 23:28.55 | Gryphen | should be at the bottom |
| 23:28.58 | ToastTheif | pft |
| 23:28.59 | ckknight | yes what? |
| 23:29.04 | ToastTheif | why not |
| 23:29.12 | Cairenn | Kirov: probably disabled at the moment, to prevent people from switching to the normal |
| 23:29.20 | Kirov | ah |
| 23:29.26 | ToastTheif | it was hard to learn them :( |
| 23:29.28 | Cairenn | but when we do go back to normal, you'll be able to select the lite version |
| 23:29.46 | ToastTheif | ah, that's cool Cair |
| 23:29.51 | ToastTheif | I like the lite version |
| 23:30.04 | Kirov | same |
| 23:30.06 | ToastTheif | and that reminds me, some one needs to fix the WoWAce interface |
| 23:30.15 | ToastTheif | I liked the original style :( |
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| 23:30.49 | Eraphine | can someone link me the developer kit for 1.10? |
| 23:33.49 | Shouryuu | night folks |
| 23:33.54 | Cairenn | night Shouryuu |
| 23:34.22 | ToastTheif | night shour! |
| 23:34.56 | ToastTheif | woo this is cool |
| 23:35.02 | Kirov | tad late. ;) |
| 23:35.05 | ToastTheif | my friend is setting me up with some space on his server |
| 23:35.59 | Osagasu | http://www.blizzard.com/support/wow/?id=aww01671p |
| 23:36.09 | Osagasu | err, Eraphine, ^ |
| 23:36.16 | Eraphine | thanks! |
| 23:36.19 | Cairenn | thanks Osagasu |
| 23:36.37 | Cairenn | I've been trying to get to the page, but the site is just crawling (speed wise) for me |
| 23:38.56 | Osagasu | Proof that trollers can be useful sometimes |
| 23:39.11 | Crispix | Man.. I hope the servers get back up soon :( |
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| 23:44.12 | Kirov | The Belt of Valor is also now bind on equip. |
| 23:44.14 | Kirov | wow |
| 23:44.18 | Kirov | 'bout fucking time |
| 23:46.30 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=343965 |
| 23:46.50 | Kirov | err |
| 23:47.15 | Cairenn | ? |
| 23:47.38 | Cairenn | okay, gonna be a long night ... going out for ice cream, back shortly ... |
| 23:50.25 | Osagasu | If you're going to Baskin Robins, get a pint of Jamocha |
| 23:50.47 | MentalPower | get one for me :) |
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| 23:52.05 | ToastTheif | ARJKAF |
| 23:52.12 | ToastTheif | when is WoW gonna come back up |
| 23:52.58 | Kirov | When the server gods deam it so |
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| 23:54.17 | Guillotine | is it just me or are all US servers down? |
| 23:54.26 | Gryphen | its just you |
| 23:54.53 | Gryphen | hello! patch day! why even question it :p |
| 23:55.06 | Ratbert_CP | "Are we there yet?" "Are we there yet?" "Are we there yet?" "Are we there yet?" "Are we there yet?" "Are we there yet?" "Are we there yet?" |
| 23:55.19 | Ratbert_CP | Ow! |
| 23:55.40 | Kirov | I'm playing wow right now, not sure what problems the rest of you are having |
| 23:55.50 | Kirov | This new "Realm Selection" server is awesome |
| 23:55.58 | Guillotine | oh ya |
| 23:56.20 | Guillotine | we should get full rest for this down-time |
| 23:56.29 | Guillotine | and free epicz |
| 23:56.36 | Kirov | hmm |
| 23:56.46 | Kirov | If they had epic trinkets I actually wanted, maybe |
| 23:57.00 | Guillotine | I can finally use trinkets in animal forms |
| 23:57.04 | Kirov | or maybe my DS gloves |
| 23:57.07 | Guillotine | funny thing is, the only one I'll be using will be the piccolo |
| 23:57.30 | Guillotine | I just love the piccolo |
| 23:57.43 | kremonte | no trinket is better than my combo |
| 23:57.59 | kremonte | cast furbolg trans, use orb of deception, mount up, cancel orb of deception |
| 23:58.04 | kremonte | boom, furbolg running on a mount |
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| 23:58.58 | Guillotine | mine is |
| 23:59.07 | Guillotine | piccolo + OoD ftw |
| 23:59.07 | kremonte | <kremonte> no trinket is better than my combo |
| 23:59.07 | kremonte | <kremonte> cast furbolg trans, use orb of deception, mount up, cancel orb of deception |
| 23:59.07 | kremonte | * Guillotine has quit IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:59.07 | kremonte | <kremonte> boom, furbolg running on a mount |
| 23:59.15 | kremonte | beat that, geeooteen. |
| 23:59.21 | Guillotine | I know that one ;) |
| 23:59.27 | Guillotine | you can also use that with the noggenfogger |
| 23:59.34 | kremonte | yeah but not as cool |
| 23:59.43 | kremonte | furbolg has no anims |
| 23:59.45 | kremonte | so it's jsut like |
| 23:59.56 | kremonte | <PROTECTED> |
