| 01:26.45 | maquis | finally heading home |
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| 01:43.18 | Zelut | well Amazing Grace is a pretty good film |
| 01:55.34 | Zelut | sontek: ping |
| 02:07.25 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
| 02:51.28 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 02:54.55 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 02:55.33 | atoponce | Zelut: gnop |
| 02:55.35 | atoponce | hah |
| 02:58.44 | atoponce | i should write a perl script that sends a barrage of pongs in pm when i get a ping |
| 02:58.48 | atoponce | that'd be cool |
| 02:58.53 | atoponce | or even better... |
| 02:59.19 | atoponce | PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 02:59.19 | atoponce | --- google.com ping statistics --- |
| 02:59.19 | atoponce | 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms |
| 02:59.27 | atoponce | heh |
| 02:59.43 | atoponce | ping: unknown host Zelut |
| 02:59.49 | atoponce | bummer |
| 03:00.13 | atoponce | PING christeredwards.com (166.70.233.23) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 03:00.13 | atoponce | --- christeredwards.com ping statistics --- |
| 03:00.13 | atoponce | 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms |
| 03:00.38 | atoponce | hmmm. it spits out 3 lines, though, and that can be a bit annoying |
| 03:02.05 | atoponce | Zelut: 64 bytes from atoponce (#ubuntu-utah): icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=72.6 ms |
| 03:02.09 | atoponce | cool |
| 03:02.15 | atoponce | i'm writing that as an irssi script |
| 03:02.34 | atoponce | /pong <nick> |
| 03:03.26 | atoponce | should spit out: '<nick>: 64 bytes from </me> (<#channel>); icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=<random> ms |
| 03:03.39 | atoponce | that'd be cool |
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| 03:31.23 | Zelut | atoponce: someone had some sugar today :) |
| 03:31.56 | atoponce | nope. better. :) |
| 03:33.12 | Zelut | wha? |
| 03:41.39 | Zelut | crack? |
| 03:42.29 | atoponce | sex of course! what else?! ツ |
| 03:42.44 | linuxalien | I had pizza |
| 03:44.09 | Zelut | been that long ehh :) |
| 03:45.08 | Zelut | atoponce: want to hash out an outline for the meets? |
| 03:45.15 | linuxalien | :P haha |
| 03:46.32 | atoponce | Zelut: yeah. just a sec |
| 03:53.40 | Zelut | can anyone tell me where the stinkin trash is in KDE? Seems stupid but I'm not seeing it. |
| 03:54.48 | linuxalien | goodnight |
| 03:54.53 | linuxalien | have fun guys |
| 04:12.04 | atoponce | Zelut: ok. ready |
| 04:12.07 | atoponce | sorry |
| 04:26.29 | atoponce | Zelut: ping |
| 04:27.40 | Zelut | atoponce: did you not get my PM? |
| 04:28.50 | atoponce | nope |
| 04:29.27 | Zelut | weird |
| 04:29.40 | atoponce | try again |
| 04:29.50 | Zelut | just tried over Jabber too |
| 04:30.03 | atoponce | nothing |
| 04:30.52 | Zelut | looks like my messenger is screwing up again.. |
| 04:31.00 | atoponce | what are you using? |
| 04:32.17 | Zelut | irssi and bitlbee.. |
| 04:32.34 | Zelut | isn't even letting me PM you over IRC |
| 04:33.32 | atoponce | are you registered with nickserv? |
| 04:33.42 | atoponce | i block any pm's if you're not |
| 04:33.50 | Zelut | I should be.. |
| 04:34.06 | atoponce | as far as bitlbee, well, you got me there |
| 04:34.19 | Zelut | already identified with nickserv |
| 04:34.20 | atoponce | herlo: ping |
| 04:34.24 | Zelut | peice of junk |
| 04:34.38 | atoponce | my jabber might be having issues |
| 04:35.19 | Zelut | I'm pretty sure its mine |
| 04:36.57 | atoponce | did you get my pm? |
| 04:37.05 | atoponce | jabber, that is? |
| 04:38.35 | Zelut | nope |
| 04:42.41 | Zelut | I might need to restart mine again too.. |
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| 04:47.37 | Zelut | stupid program |
| 04:48.35 | atoponce | i don't see you on jabber |
| 04:51.47 | Zelut | I'm not connected |
| 06:15.41 | maquis | Zelut: i'm afraid i think i'm on the far end on your "when you first switched to ubuntu..." question. :) |
| 06:21.20 | Zelut | maquis: what do you mean? |
| 06:22.30 | maquis | perhaps i'm misunderstanding... but it sounds like you're saying a very large percentage of people were new to linux when they started using Ubuntu |
| 06:22.40 | maquis | perhaps i'm misunderstanding |
| 06:23.42 | Zelut | is that the message you took from the post? |
| 06:24.02 | maquis | that's what i got from that one comment |
| 06:24.19 | Zelut | mainly I want to say that one person can make a huge difference and we should more actively reach out to new users. |
| 06:24.29 | maquis | the rest of the post seemed to be saying that it's important for those of us who have been with ubuntu longer should work on helping others who are new |
| 06:24.43 | maquis | (because generally, they're new to linux as well as to ubuntu) |
| 06:26.18 | Zelut | either way, new or not I want to be more active in reaching out to them |
| 06:26.30 | maquis | cool |
| 06:29.24 | Zelut | so I'm thinking of going back to Xfce next.. 4.4 looks pretty clean and light http://www.xfce.org/about/tour |
| 06:29.35 | maquis | :) |
| 06:29.47 | maquis | baby steps... :) |
| 06:30.29 | maquis | Zelut: question for you: do you ever interview for sde positions for your company? |
| 06:31.42 | Zelut | does my company need sde? |
| 06:33.16 | maquis | i would assume you have developers |
| 06:34.42 | Zelut | I assume we do as well but I have no idea who they are :) |
| 06:35.11 | maquis | ah... ok |
| 06:35.13 | maquis | hmm |
| 06:36.26 | Zelut | are you looking for something less... strenuous? :) |
| 06:40.16 | Zelut | I'm in such a blogging mood tonite for some reason |
| 06:46.43 | maquis | Zelut: no... i'm looking for good questions to use when interviewing SDEs |
| 06:53.02 | Zelut | ahh |
| 06:53.22 | maquis | that's why i was wondering if you do interviews... :) |
| 06:55.38 | Zelut | I do very little tech related at my job unfortunately |
| 06:55.47 | maquis | that's too bad |
| 06:56.19 | Zelut | I'd like to do more but.. I don't think I have a lot of tech skills other than advocacy :) |
| 06:56.34 | maquis | you're pretty good with linux, imho |
| 06:56.36 | Zelut | I really need to learn how to write code |
| 06:56.56 | maquis | you also explain stuff really well, which is something a lot of us geeks really lack |
| 06:57.21 | maquis | if you want to learn to code, i'd suggest starting with a scripting language. |
| 06:57.29 | Zelut | well that is good to hear |
| 06:57.53 | maquis | i've been working on trying to learn perl recently, and, while it's hard, it's also a lot of fun |
| 06:57.57 | Zelut | I can read a good amount of code--enough to get in trouble--but I can't write from scratch. |
| 06:58.07 | maquis | honestly, i think anybody can learn to code if they want to |
| 06:58.18 | Zelut | I think I should take a summer class and learn java or something, just to get the basics. |
| 06:58.40 | Zelut | I really want to, I just need more time I think and a tutor would really help |
| 06:58.44 | maquis | :) |
| 06:59.33 | maquis | i don't know about a tutor, but #utah and #ubuntu-utah (and most other channels) have people who can code and are willing to help out |
| 06:59.47 | maquis | during school, i got tons of help from #utah |
| 06:59.53 | Zelut | I've picked up books on php and python... just don't seem to catch on.. probably just need to practice. |
| 07:00.09 | Zelut | I know there is a lot of local perl support here |
| 07:00.46 | maquis | i would say that you'd probably want to start with a scripting language if you're teaching yourself |
| 07:00.54 | Zelut | such as? |
| 07:01.05 | maquis | perl is pretty cool so far |
| 07:01.21 | maquis | php is pretty cool and a bit easier to pick up, although less popular |
| 07:01.31 | maquis | php is good if you want to do anything web-based, imho |
| 07:02.02 | maquis | i've heard good things about python, but i didn't get along with it as well in my one class that used it |
| 07:02.10 | maquis | will probably look into it again eventually, though |
| 07:02.37 | maquis | personally, the languages that interest me the most are C and perl |
| 07:02.48 | Zelut | that is what I've wanted to learn.. I just don't know if I have enough time or a project vision to build. |
| 07:02.50 | maquis | although i still know php much better than i know perl |
| 07:02.59 | maquis | pick something simple |
| 07:03.08 | maquis | and command-line-based, probably |
| 07:03.11 | maquis | but useful |
| 07:03.26 | maquis | maybe something to analyze some logfiles for certain data |
| 07:03.33 | Zelut | I did write one php based address book one time |
| 07:03.39 | maquis | cool |
| 07:03.53 | Zelut | apparently the code is super inefficient, but it works |
| 07:04.02 | maquis | that's the important thing |
| 07:04.11 | maquis | at least at the start |
| 07:04.36 | maquis | eventually, after you get the basics, i'd suggest looking into more complex issues, but it's important to start simple |
| 07:04.38 | Zelut | I've done some bash scripting too.. don't know if that counts though |
| 07:04.43 | maquis | sure |
| 07:05.24 | Zelut | that seems pretty easy to me as its just a string of commands i'm familiar with.. |
| 07:05.26 | maquis | actually, it's interesting to see how much trouble it can sometimes be to string a ton of commands together on the command-line to do what you want... |
| 07:06.03 | maquis | today, some random guy i'd never met before came into my office to ask me how i would go about doing something on the command-line |
| 07:06.28 | Zelut | I put together a backup.sh that does a sqlump | tar, tar of all htdocs & then rysncs the whole thing to another machine. |
| 07:06.57 | Zelut | the one thing I couldn't get though was an auto-delete of old archives |
| 07:09.52 | herlo | atoponce: pong |
| 07:10.14 | Zelut | herlo: blog is done, although short |
| 07:10.21 | herlo | Zelut: saw it |
| 07:10.55 | Zelut | I'll need to make some time for utos web graphics tomorrow |
| 07:10.57 | herlo | I edited it just a bit. use "Utah Open Source" instead of UTOS and "Utah Open Source Conference" instead of UTOSC. |
| 07:11.10 | herlo | It's an important distinction... |
| 07:11.21 | Zelut | I thought I did.. must have missed it |
| 07:11.26 | herlo | also we need to start advertising to the lists about Utah Open Source Conference |
| 07:11.36 | herlo | UTOSC Widgets is where I saw it |
| 07:11.49 | herlo | fixed it to say Utah Open Source Widgets... |
| 07:11.56 | tristanbob_ | Zelut: awesome post! |
| 07:12.24 | herlo | Zelut: otherwise, I loved it... |
| 07:12.35 | maquis | herlo, tristanbob_, either of you interview sdes for work? |
| 07:12.39 | tristanbob_ | Zelut: if I may complian, no one includes advertising in the RSS feed |
| 07:13.03 | herlo | maquis, sdes? |
| 07:13.26 | maquis | herlo: developers |
| 07:13.28 | Zelut | tristanbob_: I've been seeing it pop up on others that I follow, but I'll note it. |
| 07:13.31 | maquis | devs... |
| 07:14.05 | herlo | maquis: we've only one developer at the moment, so no. But what is the 'sdes' acronym? |
| 07:14.46 | maquis | herlo: software development engineer |
| 07:15.14 | herlo | maquis: Never heard of that acronym, but it makes sense now that you put it out there that way. |
| 07:15.23 | maquis | hmmm... |
| 07:15.26 | maquis | interesting... |
| 07:15.29 | Zelut | herlo: I caught onto it.. maybe you should sleep |
| 07:15.32 | maquis | i thought that was really common |
| 07:16.30 | herlo | Zelut: I'm awake enough to know I've never come across that one. I regularly write code and used to be developer full time so I am surprised that I had never heard that one... |
| 07:17.24 | maquis | herlo: interesting... must be a seattle thing |
| 07:18.24 | herlo | maquis: yeah, probably not. Maybe it is a newer culture thing. I've been out of the full-time dev loop for some time now... |
| 07:22.19 | Zelut | ~yawn |
| 07:22.26 | jbot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 07:30.18 | Zelut | I should probably go to bed too.. |
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| 16:00.21 | Hunding | it has been years since I have been on IRC... |
| 16:01.32 | atoponce | Hunding: welcome. :) |
| 16:01.51 | Hunding | Thanks atoponce |
| 16:02.15 | atoponce | np. so, where you at? |
| 16:02.40 | Hunding | I live in South Jordan, in some subdivsion called "daybreak" |
| 16:02.49 | atoponce | ahh. cool |
| 16:02.58 | Hunding | u know it? |
| 16:02.59 | Zelut | Hunding: you found us afterall. g'morning :) |
| 16:03.11 | atoponce | Hunding: i've been through it |
| 16:03.26 | Hunding | Zelut...aka Christer |
| 16:03.53 | atoponce | i used to work for rc willey, and i did repossesions. i've done a couple in that area. :) |
| 16:04.03 | Zelut | Hunding: bingo. |
| 16:04.16 | Hunding | we just recently came here, so everything is still pretty BIG and new |
| 16:04.41 | Hunding | repos in daybreak...I thought these people were all good people out here...LOL |
| 16:05.34 | synic | well, out of money doesn't mean *bad* :P |
| 16:05.35 | Hunding | top 'o the morning to you as well Zelut |
| 16:05.42 | atoponce | Hunding: i'm sure they are. i've done them everywhere. utah has the highest bankruptcy ratio in the union, so no place is safe. :) |
| 16:06.10 | atoponce | i've done them to celebs in park city, and the lowly in downtown ogden |
| 16:06.13 | atoponce | it just depends |
| 16:06.33 | atoponce | Hunding: so, where are you from? you sa you just recently came here... |
| 16:07.11 | atoponce | s/sa/say/ |
| 16:07.34 | Hunding | we moved here from Saint John NB, CA |
| 16:07.47 | Hunding | been here one month on Sunday |
| 16:08.02 | atoponce | wow |
| 16:08.03 | atoponce | cool |
| 16:08.05 | Hunding | where ya'll from? |
| 16:08.13 | atoponce | i lived in toronto for a couple years |
| 16:08.20 | Hunding | brb...gotta go find the coffee pot |
| 16:08.23 | atoponce | new brunswick would be cool |
| 16:08.25 | Hunding | GTA huh... |
| 16:08.29 | atoponce | yeah |
| 16:08.35 | atoponce | nice city |
| 16:08.40 | atoponce | would love to move back |
| 16:08.45 | Hunding | did you get over to Montreal? |
| 16:08.52 | atoponce | for about a week |
| 16:09.10 | atoponce | nice city too. lots of history |
| 16:09.14 | Hunding | unreal place...if we did not have kids that is wherre I would live |
| 16:09.22 | Hunding | in a heartbeat |
| 16:09.25 | atoponce | yeah |
| 16:11.29 | Hunding | I have to ask, and only because I just might die if I can't find some place where they serve decent coffee...and not that starbucks crap neither. I mean a Tim Horton's ar at the very least something like a dunkin donuts... |
| 16:11.39 | Hunding | any idea where I can find one?? |
| 16:11.46 | atoponce | tim horton's.... hmmm.... |
| 16:11.53 | Hunding | I wold drive to Las Vegas to find a good coffee |
| 16:12.17 | atoponce | i don't know about south jordan, but i know a few good places downtown |
| 16:12.21 | Zelut | herlo showed me a good place in Springville.. |
| 16:12.42 | Hunding | where? |
| 16:13.04 | Zelut | Hunding: I'd suggest pinging herlo or sontek. They'd know some good places near you if anyone. |
| 16:13.06 | Hunding | Sprinville? Is that close to here? |
| 16:13.12 | atoponce | the salt lake roasting company on 4th south and 3rd east i hear is fabulous |
| 16:13.51 | Hunding | that beans and brew place is not bad...but at $9 for two coffees I just about puked on myself |
| 16:13.51 | synic | Hunding: lots of places downtown |
| 16:13.52 | atoponce | i'm not a coffee drinker, personally, but my coworker is, and we go there every morning before work |
| 16:14.22 | atoponce | especially yerba mate |
| 16:14.23 | Zelut | atoponce: ohh yeah, is that the place next to the library? |
| 16:14.23 | atoponce | good stuff |
| 16:14.26 | Hunding | Tim Hortons two large double cream coffees...$2.94 |
| 16:14.28 | atoponce | Zelut: yeah |
| 16:14.49 | atoponce | Hunding: the salt lake roasting company is a bit pricey, though |
| 16:14.55 | Zelut | Hunding: slc roasting co, as atoponce suggests should be worth checking out. |
| 16:14.55 | atoponce | $6 for a cup, i think |
| 16:15.06 | atoponce | could be wrong on that, though |
| 16:15.56 | Hunding | price of smokes...less than 30% of what they are in canada...price of coffee 300% more...not sure about this trade off, and who is getting the better deal... |
| 16:15.56 | Hunding | lol |
| 16:16.10 | synic | wow, that sounds pretty steep |
| 16:16.12 | synic | I drink black, though, and it's definitely not that much |
| 16:16.27 | Hunding | kewl...I am looking forward to going |
| 16:16.37 | Hunding | so are ya'll from UT here? |
| 16:16.43 | atoponce | Hunding: ogden |
| 16:16.53 | atoponce | and, speaking of which, i need to get ready for my meetings |
| 16:17.08 | Hunding | Ogden..is that close to provo? |
| 16:17.14 | atoponce | no. opposite direction |
| 16:17.15 | synic | not even a little bit |
| 16:17.21 | Zelut | Hunding: grew up in the NW (Oregon), live in Orem now 5yrs. |
| 16:17.22 | atoponce | 40mi north of slc |
| 16:17.32 | Hunding | oh...North..ok |
| 16:17.35 | atoponce | :) |
| 16:17.58 | Zelut | Hunding: atoponce is our northern rep, I'm down near provo in Orem on the other end. |
| 16:18.02 | atoponce | Hunding: anyway, nice to meet you. gotta run. if you have the time, we're having and irc meeting here at noon |
| 16:18.11 | Hunding | kewl |
| 16:18.21 | Hunding | never attended an IRC meeting.. |
| 16:18.34 | Hunding | :) thanks for the invite |
| 16:18.36 | Zelut | its not as exciting as it might sound :) |
| 16:18.36 | atoponce | :) |
| 16:18.37 | atoponce | np |
| 16:18.57 | atoponce | Zelut: yeah. but you will get to know thet group |
| 16:19.05 | atoponce | Zelut: we should go over introductions again |
| 16:19.08 | Hunding | what do you guys do for a living if you don't mind me asking |
| 16:19.10 | Zelut | !geek |
| 16:19.11 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if when you're reading a magazine and you see an underlined passage, you feel compelled to click on it. |
| 16:19.13 | atoponce | i'm sure we all could benefit from them |
| 16:19.29 | atoponce | anyway. ttyl |
| 16:19.42 | Hunding | ok have a good one atoponce |
| 16:20.15 | Zelut | Hunding: I'm an internet business consultant for a company Prosper Learning. |
| 16:20.59 | Zelut | basically a teacher, which is what I think I mainly do with ubuntu & OSS. |
| 16:21.07 | Hunding | oh... |
| 16:21.22 | Zelut | I can't code to save my life, although I'm trying.. but I can teach (and love to) anyone to use Linux :) |
| 16:21.52 | Hunding | teach...god love ya...something I could never do... |
| 16:22.47 | Zelut | if the student is willing there is nothing like it. |
| 16:22.57 | Hunding | I like to hole up in my office with a nice warm glow and buzz from the power supplies and write code till my eyes burn and the sun starts to come up...then get a nice warm cup of coffee and drink it with my wife before the kids get up |
| 16:24.55 | Hunding | look forward to the meeting...ttyl |
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| 17:00.10 | Zelut | llama_tvlug: morning |
| 17:06.49 | Zelut | I remember having a dream about a great tutorial for the site and now I can't remember what it was.. :( |
| 17:07.56 | Hunding | quick question: I keep my ubuntu box in the basement, and connect to it through a VNC connection upstairs in the office, and now that there is no monitor attached to the box the highest resolution I can get out of it is 800x600. Does anyone know how I could set it so I could 1024x768 without attaching a monitor to it? |
| 17:08.44 | Hunding | pen and paper beside the bed Zelut... |
| 17:10.11 | Zelut | hmm. have you looked at the xorg.conf file? I wonder if its reverted to a lower res there |
| 17:14.02 | Zelut | are you familiar with tinkering with that file at all? |
| 17:17.14 | Hunding | I am using vm to look through it now...all the options are still there |
| 17:17.54 | Hunding | depth of 1-24 and all resolutions that my card can support are listed...not commented out |
| 17:19.15 | Zelut | I wonder--although I'm not sure I've run into this issue before--is that your prefered resolution was saved as a session and now that you're connecting differently it reverts to the default |
| 17:19.26 | Hunding | maybe... |
| 17:19.33 | Hunding | I am going to try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg |
| 17:19.38 | Hunding | see if that will fix it |
| 17:19.44 | Zelut | ok |
| 17:24.07 | llama_tvlug | Morning... sorry.. had to step away for a bit. |
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| 17:27.42 | Zelut | llama: so the tvlug is hibernating for the winter? :) |
| 17:28.08 | Zelut | Sir_Brizz: ping |
| 17:28.17 | llama | Yeah... I started a Masters program in Oct and just got swamped. I have it under control now though :) |
| 17:28.22 | llama | We had a good meeting last night |
| 17:28.39 | llama | Small crowd, but it was still good. |
| 17:29.37 | Zelut | I remember some of our first meetings were just 3-4 people.. ahh the memories :) |
| 17:30.31 | llama | Nice. Well at least we cant get any less attendance. We had host problems with our site all week as well, so that probably didn't help. |
| 17:31.15 | Zelut | need a new host? what problems did you have? |
| 17:32.55 | llama | We have it on dreamhost...moving to another one. I put someone else in charge of that. I'm not sure which one they are going to ... maybe hostgator or something. |
| 17:33.14 | Zelut | I like bluehost--local, good support. affordable |
| 17:33.38 | llama | Cool. I have never heard of them. |
| 17:33.41 | Zelut | http://christeredwards.com/bluehost/ |
| 17:33.52 | Zelut | they're in provo |
| 17:34.52 | Zelut | I suggest them to all of my clients. bring more business to utah :) |
| 17:36.27 | llama | It looks like they have some good features...gotta love shell access. |
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| 17:37.32 | Zelut | 6 domains per account is nice if you ever run multiple sites |
| 17:38.29 | llama | I have 3 or 4 domains running from home here. I am thinking of moving them out to cut down on all the stuff I have. I will check them out. |
| 17:40.20 | Zelut | !geek |
| 17:40.20 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you can talk to your computer without being sarcastic or raising your voice. |
| 17:41.48 | Zelut | ...one more day with KDE and I can switch back. |
| 17:42.33 | llama | don't like it? |
| 17:43.29 | Zelut | I put myself to a challenge to use it for one week. I've found that, despite some of the very cool KDE apps, I prefer simplicity. |
| 17:44.02 | llama | I'm the same way. I just can't get myself to use KDE for more than a day or two. |
| 17:44.43 | Zelut | I posted the challenge and my progress on my blog at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com |
| 17:44.54 | llama | I like konqueror as a file manager, kate though. |
| 17:45.06 | Zelut | some really cool suggestions for KDE and some nice apps that I will miss |
| 17:47.46 | Zelut | but I might revert all the way back to Xfce for simplicity. 4.4 looks really clean. |
| 17:48.24 | llama | I have only read a few reviews on it. I have it running on the servers due to how small of a footprint is uses. I am a gnome guy, but looking forward to KDE 4 to see what it brings. |
| 17:48.24 | synic | 4.4 looks like gnome... |
| 17:48.32 | synic | which is weird to me |
| 17:49.06 | Zelut | yeah, I think its turning into a gnome clone.. which turned me away from previous versions. |
| 17:49.21 | synic | that's too bad |
| 17:49.42 | Zelut | but, now I look at it as a stripped down gnome for even more simplicity.. so I'll try it, but my guess is I'll head back to gnome. |
| 17:50.11 | synic | I dunno, I almost see no difference anymore. Even the file manager looks like nautlius now. |
| 17:50.33 | Zelut | yeah it does. I think it has lost its original direction |
| 17:51.41 | Zelut | as far as simple WM go it looks the cleanest to me. iceWM,evilWM,e17.. etc etc are all a bit too much for me yet. |
| 17:58.40 | Zelut | sweet. just got my FSF membership in the mail |
| 18:02.32 | Zelut | Hunding: any luck with the resolution? |
| 18:05.49 | Hunding | well interesting enough |
| 18:06.11 | Hunding | it worked, but now when I doa full screen on my VNC connection the screen turns upside down |
| 18:06.32 | Hunding | never thought about how hard it is to control a mouse upside down before |
| 18:06.33 | Hunding | LOL |
| 18:06.45 | Zelut | don't think I've ever seen that before |
| 18:07.05 | Hunding | can you send screen shots through IRC? |
| 18:07.09 | Hunding | I'll show you |
| 18:07.46 | Zelut | I don't think I have file transfer setup over irc and my ssh proxy yet |
| 18:08.54 | Zelut | you could email it though. |
| 18:09.05 | Hunding | ok |
| 18:09.24 | Hunding | pretty bizzar |
| 18:12.23 | Hunding | I have to go and get a screenshot program...so I can do a time delay screen shot...brb |
| 18:13.29 | Zelut | Hunding: time delay is built into Feisty 7.04 now.. not that it helps you now, but come April :) |
| 18:32.17 | llama | Gimp will do a screenshot after a set delay. |
| 18:33.21 | Zelut | Feisty will also do selected window or full screen which is also nice. |
| 18:33.23 | Hunding | does not seem to happen on the server. Yea I was forced to walk to the basement and switch over the KVM and there it looks fine. It is only the VNC connection that is upside down |
| 18:34.03 | Hunding | probably something to do with this Vista machine :) |
| 18:34.44 | Zelut | that's what I'd blame it on, sure |
| 18:34.57 | Hunding | nope does the same thing on my laptop running windows XP too |
| 18:35.49 | Zelut | what app are you using for vnc? |
| 18:36.29 | Hunding | on the server? just using the remote desktop |
| 18:36.46 | Hunding | that is built in to edgy eft |
| 18:37.06 | Zelut | I mean on the windows side |
| 18:37.25 | Hunding | oh using LibVNCServer |
| 18:37.54 | Hunding | VNC viewer 4 |
| 18:38.04 | Zelut | I always used tightvnc (I believe) and don't remember having any trouble with my remote 1600x1200 display |
| 18:38.49 | Hunding | I'll google it |
| 18:38.56 | Zelut | or this one: http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:39.11 | Zelut | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tightvnc.com%2F&ei=KIbgRfuwFaH-gwPG4aHUBw&usg=__OuFDGlbRqDaK971SIdNTdrSCjAY=&sig2=ncxbBJ8NPokK9P0T_5a3cw |
| 18:39.15 | Zelut | oops |
| 18:39.22 | Zelut | http://www.tightvnc.com/ |
| 18:42.55 | Hunding | is it required to use the tightvnc server on the other end? |
| 18:43.13 | Hunding | does not seem to want to connect with the current setup |
| 18:44.09 | Zelut | it shouldn't be. I used that from an XP machine at work to my default home setup.. although it has been a while |
| 18:44.24 | Hunding | oh wait..probably have to restart M$ |
| 18:44.28 | Hunding | lol |
| 18:44.30 | Hunding | brb |
| 18:44.31 | Zelut | do you have the port specified.. login info checked? |
| 18:46.46 | Hunding | ok that works... |
| 18:47.10 | Zelut | works now? |
| 18:47.27 | Hunding | yup... |
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| 18:47.32 | Hunding | that was odd.. |
| 18:48.22 | Zelut | weird. glad we got it fixed though. |
| 18:48.29 | Hunding | me too |
| 18:48.31 | Hunding | thanks |
| 18:51.41 | Zelut | Hunding: tightvnc is OSS while realvnc doesn't look that way. there's your problem lol |
| 18:51.55 | Zelut | Szeraax: morning |
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| 18:52.02 | Szeraax | Good morning |
| 18:52.02 | Zelut | undertakingyou: morning |
| 18:52.13 | undertakingyou | Morning, almost afternoon to all. |
| 18:52.54 | Hunding | OSS? |
| 18:53.07 | Hunding | g'morning undertakingyou |
| 18:53.29 | undertakingyou | Hello. |
| 18:53.46 | Zelut | Hunding: Open Source Software. or FOSS, Free and Open Source Software. |
| 18:53.53 | Szeraax | ah |
| 18:53.56 | Hunding | oh ok |
| 18:54.27 | Zelut | looks like its almost time to get started isn't it |
| 18:55.34 | Szeraax | probably |
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| 18:56.05 | undertakingyou | Hello SpecialZ |
| 18:56.08 | Zelut | SpecialZ: howdy |
| 18:56.23 | Zelut | ~rlart |
| 18:56.31 | Zelut | hehe.. I love bots. |
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| 18:57.05 | undertakingyou | Hello jsmidt |
| 18:57.10 | jsmidt | hello\ |
| 18:57.11 | Zelut | jsmidt: there he is |
| 18:57.25 | jsmidt | How is everyone? |
| 18:57.33 | undertakingyou | Good here. |
| 18:57.38 | Szeraax | same |
| 18:57.44 | Zelut | pretty good. feel like a nap though :) |
| 19:00.37 | Zelut | still waiting on a few people that said they'd be coming. |
| 19:01.08 | Zelut | yay |
| 19:01.21 | herlo | it's great to be here! |
| 19:02.26 | jsmidt | So how is feisty coming along? I here they just uploaded xorg 7.2. |
| 19:02.45 | Zelut | jsmidt: I'm running it on three machines, one production. Seems very stable to me |
| 19:03.08 | Zelut | Lets go ahead and get started. I want to get some introductions out of the way first for the new people. |
| 19:03.43 | Zelut | lets just shoot down the list alphabetically. name, city & work? sound good? |
| 19:04.02 | undertakingyou | Cool |
| 19:04.04 | Zelut | (note: atoponce will be joining us soon so herlo would be up first) |
| 19:05.23 | herlo | herlo = Clint Savage - http://www.herlo.org - Founder of Utah Open Source and currently creating the Utah Open Source Conference with help form Zelut and many others... |
| 19:06.00 | Zelut | anyone interested in helping, we sure could use volunteers! |
| 19:06.10 | herlo | and http://www.utos.org/ http://plan.utos.org for more info... |
| 19:06.33 | herlo | and soon to come http://www.utosc.org |
| 19:06.59 | Zelut | great. Hunding, a quick intro as the newest addition? |
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| 19:07.26 | Hunding | very new to Linux |
| 19:07.35 | Szeraa1 | by the way all, i will probably drop out at anytime, seeing as how i have the second worst wireless connection in Utah |
| 19:07.46 | Zelut | Szeraa1: noted :) |
| 19:08.07 | herlo | LInux is only one open source project, there are many to promote, even ones that run solely on Windows or Mac |
| 19:08.09 | Zelut | Hunding: glad to have you. You'll be an Ubuntu convert full time before you know it :) |
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| 19:08.39 | Zelut | jsmidt: and how about a re-introduction from one of our long timers? |
| 19:08.45 | jsmidt | jsmidt = Joseph Smidt, physics student at BYU. I help administer the ubuntu computers for the Physics department. Have a physics blog: theeternaluniverse.blogspot.com. |
| 19:09.02 | llama | I'm Ryan Gifford - started tvlug out here in Tooele. I work as a geek for the LDS Church. Been using Linux for 5 years now. |
| 19:09.14 | Zelut | jsmidt: hopefully you can get a break from your graduate work and come around a bitmore :) |
| 19:09.22 | jsmidt | I know. |
| 19:09.34 | jsmidt | I come and go and come and go. |
| 19:09.40 | Zelut | llama: we'll get TVLUG moving again soon too. |
| 19:09.45 | Zelut | maquis: ping |
| 19:09.53 | llama | Thanks...we would love the help |
| 19:10.03 | Zelut | maquis is our resident non-resident & geek-chick. |
| 19:10.08 | Zelut | redbeard1: ping |
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| 19:10.20 | Zelut | sontek: ping |
| 19:10.43 | Zelut | who else is at keys.. would that put us at SpecialZ? |
| 19:10.50 | SpecialZ | Scott Krazek, SLC/Orem. FPGA Dev, Fiber Optic Networking Equipment, AST (We're hiring and I get a big bonus for refs) |
| 19:11.35 | Zelut | SpecialZ: good to see you. Have you popped in here before? |
| 19:11.52 | SpecialZ | #utah mostly |
| 19:12.03 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah MikeB- (n=dbasinge@ubuntu/member/MikeB-) |
| 19:12.06 | Zelut | ahh. that's why you look familiar |
| 19:12.12 | MikeB- | afternoon all |
| 19:12.28 | Zelut | MikeB-: was hoping you'd make it. we're just getting throug some introductions |
| 19:12.35 | Zelut | MikeB-: ..and I think you're up :) |
| 19:13.27 | MikeB- | I'm Mike, I work for the University of Utah Marriott Library as Head of Staff Technologies |
| 19:13.54 | Zelut | MikeB-: have we missed the CC vote for you yet? (I've been *swamped*) |
| 19:14.01 | MikeB- | I have used Ubuntu since 2004, and I'm an administrator on the Ubuntu Forums |
| 19:14.21 | MikeB- | Zelut, has not been posted yet |
| 19:14.39 | MikeB- | there is a CC meeting Monday, maybe they will have more info |
| 19:14.55 | Zelut | for those that don't know MikeB- is up for vote for the Ubuntu Community Council. One of our own :) |
| 19:15.26 | Zelut | MikeB-: well keep us informed on the details. |
| 19:15.39 | Zelut | Sir_Brizz: ping |
| 19:15.57 | Zelut | synic: if you're still here, you're up. |
| 19:16.08 | MikeB- | the next Ubuntu Community Council is Monday at 4PM-7PM MST in #ubuntu-meetings |
| 19:16.51 | Zelut | Szeraax: I guess you're up then. |
| 19:16.56 | Zelut | MikeB-: thanks. |
| 19:17.23 | Hunding | is it open to the public, the UCC meetings that is. |
| 19:18.06 | MikeB- | Hunding: yes, although the CC memeber may more to a separate rom if debate gets to heated |
| 19:18.23 | Zelut | Hunding: yes, always open to the public. Only those on the council can vote however. |
| 19:19.24 | Zelut | tristanbob_: ping |
| 19:19.32 | Zelut | undertakingyou: how about you go ahead. |
| 19:19.40 | undertakingyou | Will Smith; ISmanager/undertaker for Larkin Mortuary in SLC. Used ubuntu since August and love it. |
| 19:20.16 | Zelut | undertakingyou: you look familiar too. #utah? |
| 19:20.43 | undertakingyou | No, I've been in here once. And that is also my screen name for the forums |
| 19:21.00 | Zelut | undertakingyou: ahh. Well hope you can drop by more often :) |
| 19:21.13 | Zelut | next is UtahBot.. he's mainly harmless and run by atoponce |
| 19:21.26 | Zelut | he does stuff like !geek.. |
| 19:21.29 | Zelut | !geek |
| 19:21.31 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you'll spend a long time customizing a computer you'll use for one day to the absolute pinacle of comfort, but you won't bother to spend two hours sewing up a skirt, and wear the damn thing sarong style. |
| 19:21.33 | Zelut | !84057 |
| 19:21.52 | Zelut | ...and supposed to do weather by zip code.. maybe not. |
| 19:21.57 | Zelut | and then myself. |
| 19:22.07 | MikeB- | Harmless, that what people think till the Terminators attack:) |
| 19:22.07 | jsmidt | I have to step away for about 3 minutes, but I won't log off so I don't miss anything. |
| 19:22.27 | Zelut | Christer Edwards. I like in Orem. I started with Ubuntu two years ago come April. |
| 19:22.55 | Zelut | I founded this team. I love it. I love ubuntu, open source and all that jazz. |
| 19:23.12 | Zelut | I also maintain the http://ubuntu-utah.org and http://ubuntu-tutorials.com websites. |
| 19:23.32 | Zelut | feel free to ping me anytime for ubuntu issues, team ideas, help, etc. christer.edwards@ubuntu.com |
| 19:23.33 | MikeB- | Zelut: been enjoying your switching to KDE blog posts |
| 19:23.56 | Zelut | MikeB-: I've decided I'm switching back, although I have learned a *lot* |
| 19:24.34 | Zelut | Well, now that we all know each other I wanted to hit on some recent news & accomplishments. |
| 19:25.06 | Zelut | congrats to MikeB-, atoponce and tristanbob_ on being accepted as official ubuntu members. Great work. |
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| 19:25.25 | Zelut | again, to MikeB- on his being considered to the CC. Best of luck. |
| 19:25.48 | MikeB- | Zelut: thanks |
| 19:25.52 | jsmidt | I'm back |
| 19:25.53 | Zelut | big-ups to herlo for all his hard work on utos. Its a huge project and he's really dedicated. |
| 19:26.16 | Zelut | I hope everyone can take a look at the utah open source conference websites and volunteer some time. it's going to be great! |
| 19:26.20 | herlo | thanx Zelut |
| 19:26.35 | MikeB- | if anyone else is interested in Ubuntu Membership< I would be glad to help you prepare for it |
| 19:26.49 | undertakingyou | I'm curious about the requirments. |
| 19:27.07 | Zelut | that is on my agenda today as well. suggested requirements & mentoring. |
| 19:27.10 | MikeB- | It would be a big bragging point if Ubuntu-utah could declare 100% Ubuntu Membership |
| 19:27.48 | Zelut | that would be amazing. I think we already have a lot to brag about, but that is one of my proposed goals. |
| 19:27.51 | jsmidt | I'm interested, but I can't always put in large hours. I definitely do a lot of advocacy. That is why the physics department at BYU has so many Ubuntu machines. |
| 19:28.18 | Zelut | it would be great if each member would aspire to membership. it'd make ubuntu that much stronger and utah really stand out on the map |
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| 19:28.25 | undertakingyou | So what must be done to be a member. |
| 19:28.52 | Zelut | undertakingyou: continued and sustained contributions to the ubuntu project. |
| 19:28.57 | MikeB- | undertakingyou: it varies, I'm a member for work I have done on the forums |
| 19:29.05 | jsmidt | I've also halped maintain a couple of packages. |
| 19:29.17 | Zelut | undertakingyou: I'm a member mainly for the team building and advocacy work that I've done. |
| 19:29.42 | undertakingyou | I see. It varies, its not like a merit badge with set requirements. |
| 19:29.58 | Zelut | undertakingyou: mainly if you can document continued contribution to the project and community in many areas you can be considered. |
| 19:30.25 | Zelut | I had written down some proposed points for those that wanted to aim for membership. |
| 19:30.46 | Zelut | let me put these to the group and get thoughts, particularly from the other accepted members. |
| 19:31.07 | MikeB- | undertakingyou: have you made a page for yourself at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ |
| 19:31.17 | MikeB- | and a launchpad profile |
| 19:31.20 | undertakingyou | No, didn't know it was available. |
| 19:31.25 | jsmidt | MikeB-, what is your forums name? |
| 19:31.35 | MikeB- | Mike |
| 19:31.55 | jsmidt | makes sense. |
| 19:32.00 | undertakingyou | I take it starting those would help? |
| 19:32.06 | Zelut | MikeB- is right. Anyone looking for membership, or even anyone on this team would be suggested to create an ubuntu wiki page. |
| 19:32.20 | Zelut | example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristerEdwards |
| 19:32.46 | Zelut | a good way to communicate who you are, what your goals are and what contributions you've made. |
| 19:32.51 | MikeB- | undertakingyou: you will be voted down quickly if you have no wiki page |
| 19:33.04 | MikeB- | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MikeBasinger |
| 19:33.07 | Zelut | this wiki page will be what you present to the council upon application. |
| 19:33.27 | Zelut | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AaronToponce (in his stead) |
| 19:33.39 | undertakingyou | I see. Sounds like it was a LONG time before you even tried to get on. |
| 19:34.04 | Zelut | I would suggest that everyone here could take the time to set one up. Feel free to use mine as a template if you need. |
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| 19:35.12 | Zelut | Hunding: that is the page that the launchpad account generally points to and, after your application I went to see it but there was nothing. That is why I emailed you instead :) |
| 19:35.15 | redbeard2 | sorry i'm late! |
| 19:35.21 | Zelut | redbeard2: welcome! |
| 19:35.28 | redbeard2 | ty |
| 19:35.41 | Zelut | everyone, our resident redbeard pirate chef |
| 19:35.58 | undertakingyou | Hello redbeard2 |
| 19:36.12 | redbeard2 | yo |
| 19:36.25 | Hunding | ok |
| 19:36.53 | Zelut | My first proposed guideline for those wanting to aspire to membership is activity on the ubuntu forums. |
| 19:37.07 | Zelut | MikeB-: can you tell us where the best places to dive in might be? |
| 19:38.11 | MikeB- | The best place is the Begineers Forum area |
| 19:38.35 | MikeB- | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73 |
| 19:38.43 | Zelut | thanks. |
| 19:39.31 | Zelut | my suggestion, although it isn't required, is a very active goal of 100 posts a month to the forums toward membership. |
| 19:39.34 | MikeB- | that is a place that we can always use extra help assisting new Ubuntu users |
| 19:40.00 | undertakingyou | I think I can help some. Other times I just feel like a huge NOOB |
| 19:40.02 | Hunding | you mean 100 post per person per month? |
| 19:40.11 | MikeB- | I had 200 last month, although most of mine are telling people to watch the language:) |
| 19:40.36 | Zelut | Hunding: if you could shoot for that number personally it would go a long way toward membership. |
| 19:40.53 | Hunding | oh OK |
| 19:41.01 | Zelut | again, not required by any means but a suggestion on where you can try to start actively contributing. |
| 19:41.02 | MikeB- | also, helping in http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org is also welcome |
| 19:41.05 | Hunding | not sure I have that much to say |
| 19:41.33 | Zelut | Hunding: when I first started I didn't have much to say either but I spent a lot of time there reading threads and learning. |
| 19:41.48 | Hunding | or if anyone would be that interested...but I sure can cruze through them to see if there is something... |
| 19:41.54 | Hunding | OK :) |
| 19:41.57 | Zelut | Hunding: before I knew it I spent a few hours a day on the unanswered threads section |
| 19:42.45 | undertakingyou | I like to look at the new threads part and answer what I can. |
| 19:42.48 | Zelut | again, as MikeB- says, the beginner forum could use our help so if you can spare some time that can be a great place to start building your ubuntu resume |
| 19:43.19 | Hunding | question: I have been involved in forums Q&A before, and usually turns into some kind of flame wars...people just trying to make others look silly...have you had much of this? |
| 19:43.40 | jsmidt | MikeB-, If we did the 100 posts per month, how many months should we go before we apply for membership? |
| 19:44.04 | Zelut | Hunding: the ubuntu forums are far different than others that I've used. It is generally a *very* friendly community |
| 19:44.32 | Hunding | good enuff |
| 19:44.39 | Zelut | Hunding: ..and for those that aren't get to feel the wrath of MikeB- :) |
| 19:44.48 | MikeB- | jsmidt: it matters, especially is you contribute to the community is other ways |
| 19:44.55 | Zelut | jsmidt: when I applied I had 700 posts, I think atoponce had the same. |
| 19:45.29 | Zelut | jsmidt: you could have 0 posts but if you could document contribution in package maintenance that could work |
| 19:45.53 | MikeB- | I only have 800 post now, cause most I make post in areas that don't add to the post count, the social areas of the forums |
| 19:45.54 | Zelut | herlo: what is your ubuntu wiki address? |
| 19:45.59 | jsmidt | I think I have about 250 posts, so maybe I could try to do this for 3-4 months. |
| 19:46.16 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.18 | Hunding | I got one :) |
| 19:46.24 | Zelut | Hunding: sweet! |
| 19:46.39 | herlo | Zelut: but it doesn't have much on it |
| 19:46.54 | Zelut | My second suggestion for contribution is in bug tracking on launchpad. Bug tracking is always very much needed. |
| 19:47.05 | Zelut | http://launchpad.net/malone |
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| 19:47.24 | Hunding | do we use a test track system for bug tracking? |
| 19:47.51 | Zelut | I wish tristanbob_ was around. He was accepted for much of his bug work. |
| 19:47.54 | herlo | Zelut: it was there... |
| 19:47.58 | herlo | I don't see it now |
| 19:48.24 | Zelut | herlo: hmm. odd. generally suggested to use FirstLast syntax for personal pages |
| 19:48.33 | MikeB- | we have also start an forum ambassador team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumAmbassadors |
| 19:48.44 | jsmidt | How is bug tracking different then reporting bugs? |
| 19:49.12 | Zelut | jsmidt: mainly my choice of words is all I think :) |
| 19:49.17 | MikeB- | which will help newbies and assist developer by helping bug report made on the forums to be added to Ubuntu bugs on Launchpad |
| 19:49.47 | herlo | Zelut: https://launchpad.net/~herlo |
| 19:49.54 | Zelut | MikeB-: so in joining that team you can check for & report forum bugs to launchpad? |
| 19:49.54 | MikeB- | most new user are fearful of posting bugs |
| 19:50.06 | MikeB- | Zelut: yes |
| 19:50.21 | Zelut | herlo: ahh. I remember your launchpad page. Wiki page is the other side of that. |
| 19:50.34 | herlo | yeah, i know |
| 19:50.53 | Zelut | that sounds like a great idea. Another way any of you could really make a difference for ubuntu. |
| 19:51.13 | Zelut | Hunding: sounds like it could be a good place for you :) |
| 19:51.35 | Zelut | MikeB-: are you very familiar with the malone system? could you take a few minutes? |
| 19:51.51 | MikeB- | the new bug eporting tools in feisty will make bug reporting easier |
| 19:52.01 | jsmidt | good |
| 19:52.20 | MikeB- | https://launchpad.net/malone |
| 19:52.31 | jsmidt | They really need to work on helping average users diagnose the problem. |
| 19:53.15 | undertakingyou | I think I screwed up just trying to start an ubuntu wiki page. |
| 19:53.20 | Hunding | I'll tell you from a newbie perspective is locating where the logging is taking place has been the biggest issue of diagnosing problems on my own. |
| 19:53.22 | MikeB- | Malone is the bug reporting system in Launchpad |
| 19:53.33 | Zelut | undertakingyou: hows that? |
| 19:54.27 | undertakingyou | I wanted the name to be WillSmith but, it is Undertakingyou and I can't seem to change it. The name came from the signup I just did at launchpad. |
| 19:54.36 | MikeB- | it can be used for translation of Ubuntu apps into other language, but have never used that feature |
| 19:55.02 | Zelut | undertakingyou: you could try to just visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WillSmith & create that page if it isn't there. |
| 19:55.46 | undertakingyou | How would I change the launchpad link? I can look and play around with it. I think it would be cool to be a member. |
| 19:56.17 | Zelut | undertakingyou: log in to LP again and edit your details. |
| 19:56.25 | atoponce | sorry i'm lae |
| 19:56.30 | atoponce | s/ae/ate/ |
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| 19:56.36 | atoponce | just got out of my lug meet |
| 19:56.36 | Hunding | second worst? I sure would hate to see the worst connection in UT! |
| 19:56.59 | Zelut | atoponce: no problem. we missed your introduction but you'll see we've been talking about proposed ideas for acheiving membership |
| 19:57.45 | Zelut | also, for anyone that isn't yet applied or included please see http://launchpad.net/~utahteam to apply. |
| 19:58.40 | Zelut | my next point, and one of my favorites, is ubuntu advocacy and CD distribution! |
| 19:59.36 | Zelut | I assume we'll be getting another shipment of CDs for Feisty. I will need help in getting those out. Last time, for Edgy, I recieved 500 printed CDs. |
| 19:59.37 | MikeB- | I gave away 10 Ubuntu CDs at CES next to the Microsoft Vista booth :) |
| 19:59.52 | Hunding | do people really still install OS'es from CDs? |
| 20:00.12 | herlo | yes they do |
| 20:00.12 | MikeB- | Hunding: I still do |
| 20:00.15 | Zelut | Hunding: you would not believe the number of CD requests I get on a weekly basis |
| 20:00.36 | Hunding | ok... |
| 20:00.43 | Zelut | I have on BYU student that asks me for 10 more *every week*.. and he's just one |
| 20:00.55 | undertakingyou | That's how I install. Can we really get nice CD's. I gave one I just burnt myself to a coworker |
| 20:01.37 | Zelut | undertakingyou: we get the prints for each release as an official team, yes. email me if you'd like some. I still have some left.. although not many. |
| 20:02.03 | jsmidt | I'd like some feisty cd's |
| 20:02.09 | undertakingyou | Yeah I'd like some. Also the Wiki page WillSmith is taken. Guess I can't use it. |
| 20:02.14 | atoponce | i have about 10 edgy cds, if anyone is interested |
| 20:02.23 | Zelut | kind of what I'm getting at here for advocacy is based on my blog post last nite here: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/23/the-power-of-one-reaching-out/ |
| 20:02.45 | MikeB- | I have 20 each Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu CD left |
| 20:03.16 | Zelut | undertakingyou: perhaps a middle initial? |
| 20:03.45 | undertakingyou | Maybe, I'll see. How can I grab some edgy CD's? |
| 20:03.56 | Zelut | I have been amazed at what one person can do when they are passionate about something. |
| 20:04.13 | Zelut | undertakingyou: email me & I'll try to get them to you. christer.edwards@ubuntu.com |
| 20:05.15 | Zelut | think of everyone you've shared a CD with and imagine they did as much as you or even more. Every individual is so important and that has been my focus. |
| 20:05.30 | jsmidt | I really hope Ubuntu gets a default composite manager soon. I keep being told by window's users how pretty Vista is and how the windows can do cool effects. I want them to put in a cd that matches that without having to trickery to get it to work. |
| 20:05.55 | MikeB- | my e-mail if anyone needs it is mike.basinger@ubuntu.com or mike.basinger@gmail.com |
| 20:06.10 | undertakingyou | I hate that new vista. It just makes me sick. |
| 20:06.21 | Zelut | I try to give each user, each lug and now with our USTeams each state the resources they need to spread ubuntu and build on the power of one. |
| 20:06.31 | Hunding | vista is far better to use than XP ever was... |
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| 20:06.46 | Hunding | sorry...not the place |
| 20:06.52 | Zelut | lets not get into a M$ conversation guys.. :) |
| 20:07.10 | undertakingyou | Yes Sir. . . Sorry. |
| 20:07.22 | jsmidt | I just want them to put in a live CD and say "This desktop is prettier than windows and the effects are cooler." |
| 20:07.43 | Zelut | if you have any thoughts on that blog post I'd be happy to hear them toward the point of advocacy. |
| 20:08.09 | jsmidt | Zelut, sorry. |
| 20:08.19 | Hunding | if you have a $750+ video card you can do just that...there are some very nice eye candy packages available |
| 20:08.27 | Zelut | the goal of being a member here and a member of ubuntu should be to spread ubuntu and educate people about open source software. |
| 20:08.43 | Zelut | Hunding: have you seen beryl/compiz yet on ubuntu? |
| 20:08.57 | Hunding | yup...running on one of my boxes as we speak |
| 20:09.03 | Hunding | 0.2 |
| 20:09.17 | Zelut | so, volunteering to build this team in many ways can be a great way to also build your wiki resume. |
| 20:09.54 | atoponce | speaking of which, it would be nice to see some progress on the constitution that is on our wiki |
| 20:10.13 | Zelut | atoponce: that's right. I have neglected that this past month due to work |
| 20:10.19 | atoponce | same here |
| 20:10.30 | MikeB- | side note: I'm building a new computer and wondering if anyone locally SLC/Provo area tend to have good price on motherboards and CPUs |
| 20:11.05 | jsmidt | To all those bloggers, thanks. I enjoy reading your blogs. |
| 20:11.19 | Zelut | MikeB-: I generally go to PC Club for hardware.. or new egg :) |
| 20:11.20 | atoponce | is everyone familiar with the constitution? |
| 20:11.20 | undertakingyou | MikeB: What kinda machine are you looking for? How fast i Mean |
| 20:11.35 | undertakingyou | Not familiar with the constitution. |
| 20:11.44 | atoponce | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution |
| 20:12.00 | MikeB- | undertakingyou: Intel Cuo 2 Duo E6600 (2.4) |
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| 20:12.13 | atoponce | Zelut: if you don't mind, i'll take it from here |
| 20:12.41 | atoponce | everyone take a look at that link for a secord |
| 20:12.44 | atoponce | *second |
| 20:12.52 | Zelut | go ahead with the constitution, yes. |
| 20:13.38 | atoponce | the idea for the constitution is simple: create structure, goals and vision for the group |
| 20:14.16 | atoponce | for structure, we're possibly looking at creating some elective positions |
| 20:14.27 | atoponce | Zelut: am i off with that? i think we discussed it in the past |
| 20:14.47 | Szeraa2 | it seams that the preamble, mission statement, and purpose are fairly similar... |
| 20:15.08 | Zelut | I think we touched on it but not with a lot of detail. |
| 20:15.13 | atoponce | the constitution is in it's infancy |
| 20:15.27 | Zelut | Szeraa2: it is in a very rough form yet. suggestions & revision very welcome. |
| 20:15.28 | atoponce | we put it on the wiki, so the members of the team could contribute to it |
| 20:15.48 | atoponce | we want everyone to get their hands dirty by adding to it |
| 20:16.05 | Szeraa2 | i know that. But i dont think that good constitutions repeat themselves. Again, that's what i think |
| 20:16.23 | atoponce | Szeraa2: then, perfect time for you to make the changes as necessary |
| 20:16.33 | MikeB- | I have leave, wife is at a conference and I have help my son with homework and such |
| 20:16.46 | atoponce | MikeB-: thx for coming. ttyl |
| 20:16.54 | Szeraa2 | delete mission statement and purpose. they are covered in the preamble then |
| 20:16.55 | Hunding | nice meeting you |
| 20:17.04 | Szeraa2 | See ya MikeB |
| 20:17.12 | MikeB- | please send me the irc logs and I will sticky them in the ubuntu-utah section of the forums |
| 20:17.12 | atoponce | Szeraa2: well, the preamble should state what the constitution is about |
| 20:17.28 | atoponce | the mission statement / purpose should state what the group is about |
| 20:18.06 | atoponce | so, they are different, even if they come across as similar |
| 20:18.23 | atoponce | are there any thoughts on the constitution at this stage of the game? |
| 20:19.08 | Szeraa2 | hmm, i do agree that they are different upon further thinking... |
| 20:19.23 | Zelut | I do think it needs work. Anyone with time to volunteer some time to revision is very welcome. |
| 20:20.06 | atoponce | i think it needs work as well |
| 20:20.19 | herlo | 867-5309 |
| 20:20.24 | atoponce | i presented to the group about it, and i haven't even contributed! :) |
| 20:20.31 | atoponce | herlo: ? |
| 20:20.44 | Zelut | atoponce: I think you just volunteered yourself :) |
| 20:20.53 | herlo | sorry typed it but didn't mean to hit enter |
| 20:21.38 | atoponce | Zelut: of coures i'll volunteer to revision it. the whole aspect of this community is volunteering, so time permitting, i'll do everything i can to make this group rock! |
| 20:21.41 | atoponce | ツ |
| 20:22.08 | Szeraa2 | ok, make the purpose (which is WHY you are doing something) be something like "to provide support, direction, and education to Utah based Ubuntu users" and the mission statement (which is WHAT you are doing) be something like "Providing support, direction, and education to Utah based Ubuntu users" and the preamble (which is WHY the CONSTITUTION is even needed) be something else too... yeah, my ideas are pretty rough too. someone improve |
| 20:22.37 | Zelut | Szeraa2: its tough :) |
| 20:22.43 | atoponce | Szeraa2: perfect |
| 20:22.52 | atoponce | Szeraa2: do you jabber? |
| 20:23.10 | atoponce | wanna help with it too? :) |
| 20:23.39 | Szeraa2 | jabber? |
| 20:23.44 | atoponce | xmpp |
| 20:23.47 | Szeraa2 | i will help as possible |
| 20:23.52 | Szeraa2 | ah |
| 20:23.56 | atoponce | jabber = im protocol |
| 20:24.14 | Zelut | Szeraa2: the protocol gmail & gTalk uses |
| 20:24.24 | Szeraa2 | yeah... |
| 20:24.24 | undertakingyou | How do you even sign up for jabber? |
| 20:24.25 | Szeraa2 | yeah i do |
| 20:24.29 | atoponce | aaron@aarontoponce.org for anyone who wants it. may be helpful when putting it together. we can colaberate as we're editing |
| 20:24.36 | Zelut | undertakingyou: if you've got a gmail account you're already there. |
| 20:24.49 | Szeraa2 | yeah, i've got gamil |
| 20:24.57 | Zelut | http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/04/11/how-to-jabber-gmail-gaim/ |
| 20:25.27 | Zelut | that tutorial will show you how to use your gmail account within gaim or another Jabber enabled app for chat. |
| 20:25.55 | undertakingyou | Zelut: Thanks, I didn't realize. |
| 20:26.11 | Zelut | undertakingyou: its all I use anymore. no more msn,aim for me :) |
| 20:26.17 | atoponce | if you don't have gmail, you can register one pretty easy |
| 20:26.36 | Zelut | undertakingyou: lots of good tutorials on that site that you might not know about. |
| 20:26.42 | atoponce | anyway, if you want, besides irc, jabber might be a good way to communicate when editing the constitution |
| 20:26.47 | atoponce | that's the reason i brought it up |
| 20:27.04 | atoponce | of course, this channel always works as well |
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| 20:27.21 | atoponce | probably better, even, as everyone can be involved in the discussion |
| 20:27.49 | Zelut | chuckf: welcome |
| 20:28.12 | atoponce | if we could just get an hour a week devoted to the constitution, it would be done in no time, the we could vote on ratifying it |
| 20:28.19 | jsmidt | Unfortunately I have to go. See you all around. |
| 20:28.26 | atoponce | jsmidt: thx for stopping by |
| 20:28.34 | Zelut | jsmidt: thanks for coming. try to make the meet march 10 |
| 20:28.36 | Szeraa2 | see ya jscmidt |
| 20:28.58 | Zelut | I'd like to recap a bit here |
| 20:29.06 | undertakingyou | Do we want to do another IRC meeting during the construction, or just an hour on our own? |
| 20:29.26 | Zelut | For those that haven't yet and want to be counted please register at http://launchpad.net/~utahteam |
| 20:29.31 | atoponce | just an hour on your own, but maybe keep the conversation open in the channel |
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| 20:30.11 | Zelut | also create a FirstLastName ubuntu page on https://wiki.ubuntu.com that outlines who you are, goals, memberships & contributions. |
| 20:30.41 | Zelut | It would be great if everyone can help out MikeB- and the ubuntuforums in the beginners area or the forumambassadors. |
| 20:31.08 | Zelut | I really think we have same great people on this team and Utah really does stand out to the ubuntu community. |
| 20:31.13 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:31.32 | Zelut | just take the http://planet.ubuntu.com for example. Four people from Utah are syndicated there! |
| 20:31.42 | Zelut | I don't know of any other team that can say that. |
| 20:31.55 | atoponce | we rock |
| 20:31.59 | Zelut | We've done a lot and thank you again to everyone for their hard work. |
| 20:32.36 | SpecialZ | Got distracted. I don't see myself having time to get so involved at present. |
| 20:32.36 | Zelut | great things are going to happen in utah this year for open source and I want each of us to be a part of it. |
| 20:32.58 | Zelut | SpecialZ: even a little time spared here and there is great. |
| 20:33.02 | SpecialZ | Should I join Team Utah or just make a wiki page and get more involved as I have time? |
| 20:33.23 | Zelut | SpecialZ: you're welcome to join the team as long as you pop in now and again :) |
| 20:33.46 | atoponce | make a wiki, though. you'll probably use it later. |
| 20:33.48 | SpecialZ | Just already involved several other places |
| 20:34.14 | Zelut | We have some pretty ambitious goals this year for ubuntu and the utah team is a big part of it. I'd love to see all of you at the 'real' meetings whenever possible and in this chat room when you have time. |
| 20:34.27 | atoponce | yeah. it's all about priorities. of course, we want you to make time for the utah team, but you need to do what's most important for you |
| 20:34.40 | Szeraa2 | where are these "real" meetings at usually? |
| 20:34.43 | Zelut | its a great place to hang out, unwind and meet the other people around the state with similar interests. |
| 20:34.50 | SpecialZ | The 100% membership goal would discourage me from joining |
| 20:35.00 | atoponce | slc library on 4th s 2nd e in downtown slc |
| 20:35.03 | Zelut | Szeraa2: real meetings are at the SLC library every second saturday. |
| 20:35.20 | Zelut | SpecialZ: you're more than welcome as you are, with the time you have. |
| 20:35.21 | Szeraa2 | ah |
| 20:35.29 | Zelut | SpecialZ: don't even worry about it. |
| 20:36.02 | Zelut | I'm going to cut out here in a minute and prepare for my next meeting, but thanks to everyone who could come today. |
| 20:36.10 | SpecialZ | I also need to find a place to live in SLC |
| 20:36.16 | atoponce | any qustions, comments, or rude remarks? |
| 20:36.22 | SpecialZ | and I 'd have more time |
| 20:36.24 | Szeraa2 | i'm good |
| 20:36.37 | Szeraa2 | i'm going off too. see yall |
| 20:36.42 | atoponce | i guess my intro now is better than never? |
| 20:36.46 | Zelut | I'm happy to have Hunding, Szeraa2 undertakingyou SpecialZ and llama here today. |
| 20:36.59 | Szeraa2 | glad to come |
| 20:37.01 | Szeraa2 | Bye |
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| 20:37.20 | Zelut | feel free to contact me anytime. christer.edwards@ubuntu.com or drop by the website http://ubuntu-tutorials.com |
| 20:37.41 | llama | Cool |
| 20:37.57 | Zelut | Really the thing I'm most passionate about in life right now is that every user has a great ubuntu experience and if I can help in any way please let me know |
| 20:38.16 | Zelut | llama: email me about UVLUG and we'll get things going. |
| 20:38.44 | atoponce | same here. botter me as much as possible. email: atoponce@ubuntu.com, jabber: aaron@aarontoponce.org |
| 20:38.57 | atoponce | more than happy to help |
| 20:39.01 | llama | No problem. Our next meeting is March 23rd. If you have any ideas let me know |
| 20:39.02 | Zelut | undertakingyou: I approved your application by the way. Welcome aboard! |
| 20:39.06 | atoponce | even if i am late for the occasional meeting. :) |
| 20:39.19 | Zelut | llama: if you can make it to our next meet on mar 10 we'd love to finally meet you |
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| 20:39.48 | llama | I will try... life is crazy but maybe a few of us will cruise on in for it. |
| 20:40.27 | Zelut | I think that'll wrap it up for the morning. Hang out to chat if you can. See you back here for the next IRC meeting each 4th saturday, same time. |
| 20:40.27 | atoponce | Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | Next Meeting: Mar 10 | Help with the constitution: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution |
| 20:40.32 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah by atoponce -> Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | Next Meeting: Mar 10 | Help with the constitution: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution |
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| 20:41.10 | undertakingyou | I think that was a pretty cool meeting. I learned a lot. |
| 20:41.28 | llama | This was good stuff. I have to go write an econ paper now :) Chat you all later. |
| 20:41.35 | Zelut | undertakingyou: I'm glad. |
| 20:41.40 | Zelut | llama: good luck with that :) |
| 20:41.59 | atoponce | llama: ttyl. thx for coming |
| 20:43.00 | atoponce | meeting adjourned |
| 20:43.01 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:43.52 | undertakingyou | Is the next live meeting still at 3 in room 'D' at the SLC library? |
| 20:44.11 | atoponce | should be |
| 20:44.29 | Zelut | undertakingyou: if you can't find us when you get there call me. 801-836-9228 |
| 20:46.10 | undertakingyou | Very good. I'll work on that Wiki and everything. Also, during our chat this morning I signed up on launchpad. |
| 20:47.42 | Zelut | undertakingyou: I saw that & approved you for the utah team. |
| 20:48.25 | undertakingyou | Very cool. I was wondering if that was an auto reply or you did it. |
| 20:49.04 | Zelut | undertakingyou: I'm on top of things :) |
| 20:49.37 | Zelut | ...and if you do get yourself added to Jabber over your gmail account look for the contact page on that blog and add me. |
| 20:49.50 | undertakingyou | Zelut: Yes you are. Also, because I'm not a ubuntu member, I can't vote for MikeB right? |
| 20:50.41 | Zelut | undertakingyou: for this vote I believe it will be by launchpad membership so all of us should be able to vote. |
| 20:50.54 | Hunding | thanks for inviting me Zelut. |
| 20:51.26 | Zelut | Hunding: glad you could come. Hope we're not too much for you :) |
| 20:51.48 | Hunding | was quite informative. No not too much, not yet anyway ;) |
| 20:52.17 | Zelut | Hunding: we're really one of the most active teams so there should always be someone to chat with, help to find or something to do. |
| 20:52.47 | Zelut | Hunding: atoponce and I founded the USTeams Project to take what we've built here and spread it across the country. That is what our next meeting is for. |
| 20:52.49 | Hunding | adn lord knows I can use all the help I can find most days. |
| 20:53.00 | Zelut | ...we just love Ubuntu. Go figure lol :) |
| 20:53.35 | Hunding | once i can get my head wrapped around this being a super duper config file, I think it will become much more useful |
| 20:54.08 | Zelut | Hunding: hehe I'm sure you'll be fine. I don't think of it as a super huge config file, just that you can manually config anything you like |
| 20:54.47 | Zelut | its all about the freedom to me... and I can't code to save my life :) |
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| 20:55.00 | Hunding | ttyl :) |
| 20:55.28 | Hunding_Away | always feel like superman when I put that nick up there...LOL |
| 20:56.05 | Zelut | hehe |
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| 20:56.26 | atoponce | hi sweets |
| 20:56.39 | ktoponce | hey |
| 20:56.40 | Zelut | atoponce: lol I thought that was your KDE kounterpart! |
| 20:56.43 | atoponce | everone, this is my wife |
| 20:56.46 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:57.02 | Zelut | ktoponce: Heya, this is Christer. |
| 20:57.25 | atoponce | she's using xchat |
| 20:57.28 | ktoponce | hello everyone. i am so honored to be here |
| 20:57.32 | atoponce | ツ |
| 20:58.01 | ktoponce | Zelut, hey whats up |
| 20:58.13 | Zelut | ktoponce: glad you enjoyed the trip the other week. hope you'll stick around |
| 20:58.33 | atoponce | Zelut: where's your wife? |
| 20:58.33 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:58.48 | ktoponce | aaron is getting me excited about ubuntu (and you would be proud of him because he is saying ubuntu correctly now) |
| 20:58.50 | Zelut | atoponce: getting ready for the day finally I think :) |
| 20:59.01 | Zelut | glad to hear it |
| 20:59.20 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:59.22 | Zelut | ktoponce: you're lucky you've got a good resource right there. |
| 21:00.39 | ktoponce | Zelut, it is nice since ubuntu is SO different than anything i have ever used. i was just going crazy a few minutes ago 'cuz i couldn't install java |
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| 21:01.14 | Zelut | ktoponce: when I first started with it.. it was like a whole new world |
| 21:02.00 | Zelut | ktoponce: but once you realize how APT works its beautiful. So easy and quick to install anything |
| 21:05.19 | undertakingyou | Zelut: with your help I now have something of a wikipage up. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Undertakingyou |
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| 22:46.16 | SpecialZ | Zelut: herlo: hmm. odd. generally suggested to use FirstLast syntax for personal pages |
| 22:46.37 | SpecialZ | I don't like putting my personal info out there too much. |
| 22:47.00 | Zelut | SpecialZ: you can use SpecialZ if you prefer, but its not really the standard. |
| 22:47.10 | Zelut | ..when I first made my wiki it used my nick too |
| 22:47.23 | SpecialZ | I suppose I could use SpecialK for a username and make a FirstLast page that references it |
| 22:48.52 | SpecialZ | I need to go back to regularly booting into linux |
| 22:49.18 | Zelut | SpecialZ: I did a dual boot for a while until I realized I hadn't booted windows for a month :) |
| 22:49.32 | SpecialZ | if I could get all my media stuff running, and go to sites like youtube and have them just work, then I could only go back for my games |
| 22:49.48 | Zelut | SpecialZ: let me give you a link that'll get that going for you. |
| 22:49.59 | SpecialZ | That and dual monitors |
| 22:50.00 | Zelut | thats just the kind of stuff I write about on my blog |
| 22:50.07 | SpecialZ | I gave up on that |
| 22:50.28 | Zelut | deal monitors can work, I've seen up to a 5 monitor spread actually :) |
| 22:50.33 | SpecialZ | but I'm graduated now, so I don't need to spend time doing other homework |
| 22:51.46 | SpecialZ | My co-worker suggested putting test monitor setups on ctrl-F8 so you can still use a working one to look stuff up and make changes |
| 22:52.29 | Zelut | SpecialZ: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/02/07/5-steps-to-a-new-ubuntu-installation/ |
| 22:53.07 | Zelut | SpecialZ: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/24/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-ubuntu-6061-610/ |
| 22:53.53 | Zelut | SpecialZ: maybe some of these.. http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/31/top-ten-ubuntu-tutorials-of-2006/ |
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| 23:42.30 | SpecialZ | There I have something started |
| 23:43.37 | SpecialZ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specialk |
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