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00:16.50Kuyaedzstill here until about 8:30
01:10.21herloKuyaedz: that sucks
01:53.50Kuyaedzone more student to meet with & its time to go
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04:00.09herlohello?
04:00.09herlonope! didn't think so
04:00.10herlothis network connection is a piece of shit!!
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09:50.44Dapper606What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?
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12:10.44herlohow long will the meet be on Saturday anyway?
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14:41.39herlohey Kuyaedz, how long is the meet going to be on Saturday?
14:42.35Kuyaedzprobably just a couple hours, but we're still pending a location
14:47.03herlookay, I was interested in going to the "Sons of Nothing" http://www.sonsofnothing.com/ at The Depot http://www.depotslc.com/ afterward, starts at 8pm, might duck out early then...
14:48.01Kuyaedzok
14:48.21KuyaedzI have a feeling this meet might be half-assed :(
14:48.30herlowanna go?
14:51.09herloWhat's it gonna be on?
14:51.20herlobtw, you haven't updated the wiki
14:51.33KuyaedzYeah I realized that this morning
14:51.54KuyaedzI'm getting much more accustomed to this new job now, everything else kind of took a back seat
14:52.03Kuyaedzshould start getting back to normal soon
14:55.16herlooh good
14:55.24herloI've missed hanging out
14:55.45herloplus, it probably wouldn't have mattered, since I've been gone for so long
14:56.05KuyaedzYeah was thinkin' about that yesterday.  Its been a while
14:56.06herlomaybe we should do something Sunday
14:56.53Kuyaedzmaybe. sure
14:57.09KuyaedzI've assumed you've been out of town since the last time I saw you
15:12.17atoponceKuyaedz: the library still hasn't called?
15:15.05Kuyaedznothing
15:15.52atoponcei'll give them a call today, and see what is up
15:16.02atoponceit is going to be very very dead today
15:18.09Kuyaedzthats nice for you
15:18.32atoponcei'd rather have things to work on then sit bored for 8 hours
15:18.48atoponcemaybe i'll hit the forums again
15:19.11Kuyaedzif we can't get the library this week I'm thinking we'll either have to 1) reschedule or 2) find something else / cancel.
15:19.21Kuyaedzthe library sounds like a good place long-term though
15:19.28atoponcei think so
15:26.09herloor 3) have it at Kuyaedz house
15:26.18herlowe could also move the time...
15:26.23herloor date
15:26.25synichow many people usually show up?
15:26.30herlos/date/day
15:26.53atoponcelast meet wasn't bad. probably 5 or 6
15:27.07synicit's on Saturday again?
15:27.15atoponceyeah
15:27.42synicI could probably get our office here
15:27.53synicit's got a projector and etc.
15:27.59atoponcesweet. where at?
15:28.07synic3300s 346e
15:28.14herlosynic: does it have wireless net?
15:28.18synicherlo: but of course
15:28.21herloand can we use it?
15:28.25synicyup
15:28.30herlowhere is it?
15:28.35synic^^
15:29.12atoponcewhat's the name of the business?
15:29.20synicSendoutcards.com
15:29.47synicif someone wants to come by today and check it out
15:32.13atoponcei'm going to check the status of the library anyhow. i'm curious why they haven't gotten back to Kuyaedz or myself
15:32.51atoponcei say we plan on synic's office for this on though
15:33.45syniclemme go ask if it's free
15:33.46synicbrb
15:36.40Kuyaedzgood idea
15:37.39synicyup, it's cool.
15:38.37Kuyaedzsounds good. now why didn't you say so earlier? :)
15:40.10Kuyaedzsynic: is that SLC?
15:40.16synicyeah
15:40.59Kuyaedz..can't find it on maps.google.com so far
15:41.07syniclemme see if I can
15:41.33Kuyaedzgot it. had to rearrange the coordinates
15:42.10synichttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=346+e+3300+s+slc+utah+84105&ie=UTF8&ll=40.739844,-111.857815&spn=0.122521,0.147972&om=1
15:42.15synicah, letter b
15:43.40Kuyaedzsounds like this one might piece together after all
15:47.09KuyaedzI'll present this month.  It'll probably be short
15:49.19atoponcewhat are you presenting on?
15:53.50KuyaedzI've got a basic idea but haven't pieced everything together yet.  I was considering commenting on the recent AOL information & related (how this could be helpful) + beating down Joseph Halls recent post about how SEO is a scam.
15:54.13KuyaedzI don't know if that sounds at all interesting.  If not I can come up with something else.
15:54.19synicbrb
15:54.30atoponcethat works
15:55.35Kuyaedzhis post kinda got under my skin because SEO is basically my career now & thought 1) I could clear up some of his information and 2) offer some tips on tools other webmasters would be interested in
15:56.05Kuyaedz..considering we all have our own websites I'm sure we'd be interested in a few more ways to get visitors
15:56.13atoponcewhen did he post it?
15:56.23Kuyaedza few days ago.. let me see if I can find it
15:56.28atoponce*reads
15:57.24Kuyaedzhttp://blog.josephhall.com/2006/08/scam-search-engine-optimization.html
16:02.32atoponcei admit, i am skeptical of SEO, but i do believe there are ways to improve indexing by search engines
16:02.55atoponcei think joseph hall is a little off though, taking more of a personal approach, rather than staying level headed
16:03.16atoponcehis emotions are getting in the way
16:03.26atoponcesomeone probably annoyed him about it, and he felt he had to blog it
16:03.39atoponcei get thay way sometimes. it's too easy
16:03.53KuyaedzYeah, he's talking about scams & getting ripped off.  I thought I'd present on completely free, publically available tools & methods to get better ranking.
16:04.43Kuyaedznone of which is dishonest, cheating, etc.  Basically a better understanding of how Google ranks pages, and leverage that information.
16:05.39atoponceyeah
16:07.42Kuyaedzsome of which I understood before this new position & some of it is things I've learned since starting.  Even incorporating a few of those things I've seen one of my sites make a HUGE jump in google placement.
16:08.04Kuyaedz...anyway.  may not be the most technical presentation or linux related, but I thought it'd be relevant since most of us have our own sites.
16:08.27atoponcecool
16:13.34atoponceKuyaedz: you're missing a great discussion in #utah about salt with joseph hall!
16:13.38atoponce:)
16:14.44atoponcehe's a walking recipe
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22:05.49Dapper606Why are a wise man and a wise guy opposites?
22:12.06atoponceDapper606: who knows?
22:12.17Dapper606atoponce: Clearly you don't! :)
22:12.34atoponceDapper606: nope
22:12.44Dapper606atoponce: Gosh, I'm not getting any questions right today!  :)
22:13.00atoponceDapper606: i didn't know you asked any questions
22:13.12Dapper606atoponce: I merely stated a fact.
22:13.20atoponceDapper606: i can see that
22:13.32Dapper606atoponce: If it's that clear to you, maybe you could explain it to me.
22:13.49atoponceDapper606: sure. you stated a fact.
22:14.01Dapper606atoponce: Then I'll take your word for it.
22:14.08atoponceDapper606: ok
22:14.20Dapper606atoponce: Yeah.
22:14.40atoponceDapper606: wow
22:14.48Dapper606atoponce: Oh Well.
22:14.55atoponceDapper606: whatever
22:15.06Dapper606atoponce: Okay, I guess that's not important to you...
22:15.14atoponceDapper606: hehe
22:15.26Dapper606atoponce: :D
22:15.49atoponceDapper606: you always have to have the last word, don't you?
22:16.01Dapper606atoponce: I try to be as ready as possible.
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