IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170403

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00:02.07DrodoEmpireHm.
00:02.40DrodoEmpireNow that I really think on it, I figure some form of smoke grenade or smoke artillery shells would compose a really integral part of Drodo land warfare
00:02.52DrodoEmpireGiven its aggressiveness and focus on maneuver
00:03.27DrodoEmpireProbably something really sophisticated, such as a smoke grenade wherein the smoke is also a thermal shroud, perhaps even disruptive to sensors
00:06.34DrodoEmpireChances are for grand maneuvers it'd be artillery that'd deliver it
00:07.05DrodoEmpirePicture vast clouds and walls of smoke on the field of battle to act as a screen
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08:06.02WormydroidGhelae so apparently there is or wascan entrance to an old cave or mine at Jubilee Campus is now, back in the early 90s there was a WW2 municians factory
08:06.50WormydroidMy Dad and his mate broke in to look around, and found the cave.  They didn't stay for long after hearing "spooky noises"
08:07.21GhelaeOoh.
08:07.47GhelaeThere are several underground tunnels around the campuses, but I'd only heard of a couple of them, not that one.
08:08.23WormydroidI suspect this entrance must still exist somewhere, in the basement of obe of the buildings perhaps
08:08.47GhelaeYeah.
08:10.24GhelaeDo you know where abouts on campus it was?
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09:54.51kingsparta300hello
09:55.07kingsparta300wonderful to see you all
09:55.14GhelaeHello.
09:55.43kingsparta300may I just say, the TvTropes page for the fictionverse is in dire need of updating
09:56.16GhelaeI think only a few users ever worked on it in the first place.
09:56.22kingsparta300Ah
09:56.40kingsparta300However, I discovered something interesting. Drodo used the Spartians in a short story
09:56.47kingsparta300which I greatly enjoyed, might I add
09:57.35kingsparta300give me some ideas about what has become of the Spartians as a whole
09:59.21kingsparta300I know imagine them to be an honourable race
09:59.32kingsparta300too honourable, really, and stubborn
10:00.38GhelaeI don't really know. I've just been looking for that short story you mentioned, but since I can't remember it I don't quite know what to look for.
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10:02.09Groxkiller98Hey.
10:02.22Groxkiller98>_< I hate EA so much right now.
10:02.44GhelaeHello.
10:03.03Groxkiller98And I won't be able to play Spore anymore, unless I fork over cash to them. :|
10:03.25kingsparta300I can't play spore period
10:03.31kingsparta300got a new computer
10:03.39Groxkiller98The update broke it for me.
10:03.45kingsparta300and buying spore again and installing it is a bitch
10:03.56kingsparta300I just play Steam
10:04.02Groxkiller98Can't log in without using Origin - Spore was bought through my parent's Origin.
10:04.22kingsparta300my younger brother wanted to install spore again on our new computer
10:04.25Groxkiller98And I can't get their password.
10:04.27kingsparta300downloaded origin
10:04.40kingsparta300But I cannot remember the account name for it
10:04.44kingsparta300none of use can
10:04.55Groxkiller98Life sucks sometimes.
10:04.59kingsparta300*us
10:05.01kingsparta300yeah
10:05.02Groxkiller98Depression doesn't help.
10:05.13kingsparta300candida overgrowth doesn't either
10:05.21Groxkiller98Gotta poke my uncle about his coding.
10:05.27kingsparta300I think that's been my biggest problem
10:05.28Groxkiller98We agreed to work on a Spore-like.
10:06.04kingsparta300really?
10:06.07Groxkiller98Yep.
10:06.08kingsparta300how is that going?
10:06.13Groxkiller98Not started yet.
10:06.22kingsparta300okay
10:06.25Groxkiller98Going to work a stage at at time.
10:06.36kingsparta300makes sense
10:06.39kingsparta300good luck
10:06.40kingsparta300gtg
10:06.42Groxkiller98So, "Microbial Era" "Aquatic Era" Ect
10:06.50Groxkiller98*Sigh*
10:07.03Groxkiller98Feeling burnt out on my writing, too.
10:07.40Groxkiller98I'm actually quite burnt out on everything. >_<
10:07.54Groxkiller98Maybe something fresh would help, but I dunno...
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10:44.30Groxkiller98WB
10:45.25Liquid_InkHello
10:47.53Groxkiller98I think it's about time I decide whether or not anyone wants to take over my stuff.
10:48.05Groxkiller98To let anyone that wants*
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10:51.01Groxkiller98Hey, Tek,
10:51.17Tek0516Hi
10:52.06Groxkiller98I'm going to try give away my old work (partially).
10:52.19Groxkiller98Any interest in taking over my stuff?
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10:54.10Groxkiller98WB
10:54.39kingsparta300yeah hey
10:55.00Groxkiller98gtg in 20 mins
10:55.21Groxkiller98I've decided to give away my fiction for other users to take over.
10:57.01Groxkiller98Interested?
10:59.53kingsparta300what is the fiction?
11:00.33Groxkiller98Mithadorn Republic, Ankoran Empire, Teyan Imperium, and GTE.
11:01.30kingsparta300I'll have a small look at them
11:01.33Groxkiller98It'll technically be shared-ownership. I still want to be able to dabble with their tech and characters.
11:01.49Groxkiller98And to stop them being driven down a path I'm highly uncomfortable with.
11:02.05Groxkiller98Otherwise, you'll largely have free reign.
11:03.20kingsparta300gtg
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11:13.11kingsparta300back
11:13.22kingsparta300yeah, I am not sure I could adopt those fics
11:13.35kingsparta300already got enough on my plate over at FF.Net
11:21.13kingsparta300drodo
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12:14.50ImpyDroidWHAT THE FUCK THERE WAS A FUCKING TERROR ATTACK HERE
12:15.03ImpyDroidJUST A FEW MINUTES AGO
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12:29.27WormydroidHi
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12:36.08ImpyDroidWormydroid: THERE WAS A FUCKING TERROR ATTACK IN SAINT-PETERSBURG
12:42.40WormydroidImpyDroid sorry to hear
12:44.11ImperiosA bomb was set in the city underground; more than 10 people are known to have been killed
12:44.15WormydroidI can't comprehend the mind of depraved killers of innocents
12:46.20WormydroidIs it one you commute in often?
12:47.01ImperiosNot anymore, but apparently one of my friends was nearby and only barely managed to get out of the station before the explosion
12:47.32WormydroidFuck
12:47.51Tek0516O.O
12:48.06WormydroidLife is so fragile and precarious
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12:49.11ImperiosWormydroid: https://pp.userapi.com/c837520/v837520881/31105/EzajTqgo85I.jpg
12:50.33WormydroidBeyond words really
12:51.27WormydroidPeople trying to get on with their lives, murdered or mamed by the actions of Evil doers
12:51.55ImperiosThat's especially terrifying since terror acts are normally very rare in these places
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12:53.21WormydroidBrb
12:55.57ImperiosThere's a lockdown now
12:56.10ImperiosHalf of the underground is being cleared to
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12:59.01WormydroidHi
12:59.37ImperiosWormydroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=siFjlAnmba4
13:00.09Imperioshttps://twitter.com/ave_katerina/status/848867394030366721/photo/1
13:05.30WormydroidIm on data
13:05.44WormydroidSaw that pic on the bbc
13:05.48Wormydroidhttps://www.rt.com/viral/383187-asteroid-earth-flyby-approach/?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation&spot_im_comment_id=sp_6phY2k0C_383187_c_S5YfYE
13:06.52WormydroidAlso, near earth asteroid reminding us if nature's potential
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13:10.28MonetHi
13:14.15ImperiosMonet: https://twitter.com/ave_katerina/status/848867394030366721/photo/1 This just happened a few hours ago
13:15.54Monet10 dead in st Petersburg I saw BBC news
13:17.13ImperiosThis is the first attack we had in YEARS
13:22.02MonetQuite a shock then
13:36.07ImperiosMy mother and one of my friends were basically in direct vicinity of the station where the blast occured
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13:36.57kingsparta300hi
13:38.56kingsparta300anyone?
13:39.42ImperiosHiya
13:39.46ImperiosLel
13:40.18MonetWhy do people treat this place like Twitter?
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13:40.46MonetHello
13:40.52kingsparta300um
13:40.54kingsparta300quesiton
13:41.06kingsparta300how did that fanfiction about Avers get posted?
13:41.22kingsparta300fuck, I'm having some cringy flashbacks now
13:41.58kingsparta300ever read My Immortal? I did. It's that kind of terrible
13:42.02kingsparta300okay, it isn't that bad
13:42.04kingsparta300but
13:42.11kingsparta300it actualy is giving me bad memories
13:42.25MonetOne note
13:42.35kingsparta300yeah
13:42.37kingsparta300very much
13:42.48kingsparta300also, rather bland and unimagintative
13:43.06MonetWhat you said could have been delivered in two entries
13:43.16kingsparta300oh yeah
13:43.18ImperiosHeya Sparta
13:43.28kingsparta300sometimes I don't know what I should say
13:43.40kingsparta300Hey Imp
13:43.59ImperiosI would respond but I am currently contacting my friends and relatives to know if they survived today's terror attack
13:44.08kingsparta300heard about that
13:44.24kingsparta300hope they're okay
13:44.35kingsparta300gonna have to get a bus soon actually
13:45.30kingsparta300few minutes
13:46.21kingsparta300although, there is something I want to talk with you about
13:46.30kingsparta300Those Hatemongers
13:46.48ImperiosOH
13:46.50ImperiosI do not use them
13:46.54kingsparta300I noticed
13:47.12kingsparta300I've been thinking about how to bring in the Spartians
13:47.31kingsparta300Perhaps we could do a fiction focusing on their empire collapsed?
13:47.46kingsparta300ah, time for me to go. See you all later!
13:58.54MonetFrankly I wouldn't touch My Immortal with a kilometre long barge pole
14:00.32ImperiosIsn't it satire?
14:02.55Monethaven't a clue
14:04.12Monetif it is I'm not its target I imagine
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14:15.45Groxkiller98Hey.
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14:23.00Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/8hJrTbC.jpg
14:24.24Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/EVwamTU.jpg
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15:12.15Cyrannian|busyImperios: phew, I was worried about you
15:12.36ImperiosMy mother was REALLY close to the station where the explosion happened
15:12.40ImperiosBut thankfully she's safe
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15:13.04HachimanHi
15:13.29Cyrannian|busyThat's good to hear
15:13.34Cyrannian|busyHi hachi
15:13.36ImperiosHey
15:13.51HachimanFound another leather bracelet today
15:14.16HachimanHad to buy a crappy steel ring because mother insisted I try it on without me asking then got it stuck on my finger
15:16.12ImperiosHuh
15:17.26ImperiosCyrannian: A-a-and the alt-right is already spamming DEUS VULT pics, as expected
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15:17.36ImperiosDespite the perpetrator still being unknown
15:17.36JepardiHi
15:17.58ImperiosThis is fucking disrespectful, people have died and they are making fun of it, while claiming to be the protectors of Europe
15:18.22Cyrannian|busyI'm not surprised, it's the same everywhere
15:22.03HachimanWhat are we purging the Holy Land for this time
15:23.11ImperiosHachi
15:23.29ImperiosMy mother and a few friends of mine barely escaped this explosion
15:23.41HachimanOh shit
15:23.50HachimanIs that the Russian metro attack?
15:23.56ImperiosYes, I was talking about that
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15:24.13TreebeardHello
15:24.15HachimanI only just saw it while prowling through Facebook now that I'm back home
15:24.16HachimanHi Tree
15:25.06ImperiosI am just saying that I do not like people memeing about the Crusades in the wake of the attack
15:25.27Cyrannian|busyAye, it's in very bad taste
15:25.31HachimanI visited Gouffre de Padirac and Rocamadour today so I didn't know about it until now
15:25.48ImperiosAlso, Russia was *invaded* by Crusaders
15:28.22ImperiosCyrannian|busy: I have a communist friend who believes the attack to be Putin's inside job
15:28.51ImperiosAn excuse to strengthen security after the recent protests
15:30.41ImperiosHow plausible do you think that is?
15:31.39HachimanImperios: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17499395_1203184816460371_2316740666967405320_n.jpg?oh=44a786862d899699be16f4ecdeaf96ac&oe=598F5159
15:32.00ImperiosNot in the mood for things like this ATM
15:32.24ImperiosI'll just go finish my homework
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15:32.44Wormy_Woohoo, my thesis project idea has been approved.  Just waiting for supervisors to get back to me.
15:33.26Wormy_Well tbh, its just a literature review, not a proposal, but I can use the lit review in my thesis
15:33.33Wormy_So it feels close
15:34.09ImperiosAlso, I'll have you know that Batu was succesfully stopped at Kozelsk
15:34.22HachimanI dunno too much about Batu tbh
15:34.36ImperiosC then why post memes about him
15:34.40Imperios:P
15:34.42Hachimancus history memes
15:34.48Cyrannian|busyImperios: not very plausible, but I only saw the headline while on the bus, so I haven't read anything specific about it
15:34.51HachimanThat I thought you'd appreciate
15:34.56ImperiosWell true
15:34.57HachimanWormy_: I visited Gouffre de Padirac today
15:35.01ImperiosI'm a bit cranky ATM
15:35.18Wormy_Ooh nice
15:35.44HachimanWe had an entertaining tour guide who took us across the underground Padirac river
15:36.06Wormy_How very pleasant
15:36.22Hachiman"The shrimp here can survive without eating for six months... After that, it's cannibalism. Every last shrimp for themselves."
15:37.23HachimanNever considered that the miniscule shrimp and snails living in the Padirac river thrive on eating bat shit that ends up in the water
15:37.26Wormy_dayumn nature
15:40.35Wormy_Any interesting geology?
15:41.05Wormy_Silly me, all geology is interesting, even the drabbest chert
15:46.37HachimanHUR
15:46.40HachimanWhoops caps
15:46.44HachimanLots and lots of limestone
15:46.57HachimanThere was one formation that looked like a ram's head leaning into the river for a drink
15:47.08HachimanAnd there were lots of almost tentacle-esque formations too
15:50.34Wormy_Tentacles, like rimstone?  https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/248/453033292_1a1807feb5_b.jpg
15:51.01Wormy_https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Rimstone_-_Endless_Caverns,_VA.jpg
15:52.03Wormy_That might be a closer approximation http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7035/6730876621_03bca6170c.jpg
15:52.10ImperiosTentacles you say
15:52.22Hachimanhttp://www.hameauxdemiel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Gouffre-de-Padirac-Lot-Correze-Camping-Locations-Vacances-Lac-de-Miel-3.jpg
15:52.33HachimanThere aren't too many pictures because photography is very limited
15:55.25Wormy_Looks like a kind of flowstone (calcite usually)
16:03.56HachimanThe guy who discovered it was called Edouard-Alfred Martel, who is apparently heralded as the 'father of modern speleology'
16:05.52HachimanAnd was the founder of Societe de Speleologie, the first organisation devoted to cave science, which would later become the French Federation of Speleology
16:09.28HachimanWormy_ Monet2 Ghelaway: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17634609_1915774002033645_8803923325600493484_n.png?oh=ac33328da10e0d0856e0b233e1d6c01d&oe=599394CB
16:09.56Monet2Lol
16:10.09Wormy_Hm, I think eating light is a product of being one.
16:11.07Wormy_Be aware getting iron indigestion and having it compress too much in the intestine
16:12.16Wormy_I suppose kugelblitz are black holes produced by light
16:21.34Tek0516Wormy_: Well if our atoms absorb photons, doesn't that mean we technically eat light?
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16:22.49Wormy_Well
16:23.01Wormy_Depends on the wavelength
16:23.29Wormy_Visible light is emitted and absorbed by electron shells
16:24.23Wormy_Oh wait "atoms", I was thinking you meant nuclei but I electron shells are part of atoms
16:25.27Wormy_Our atoms both eat and shit light
16:25.28Tek0516XD
16:26.58Tek0516I'm working on some updates for the Farengeto page.
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16:31.07Tek0516There's a throwaway line in this part I'd written years ago that's given me ideas. Might even expand it into a small story. XD
16:37.09XhoMonet2: Got round to reading the recent Third House War section
16:37.31XhoUriel got nothing but short straws
16:42.22Monet2Taremanon knows how to stack a deck
16:47.19Wormy_https://phys.org/news/2017-04-astronomers-orbit-mars-hosts-ancient.html
16:54.41Monet2I'm having a lot of fun writing him
16:59.26Wormy_Monet2, Hachiman, Xho:  Don't get Helvetica https://youtu.be/t4CRCJUmWsM?t=5m41s
17:04.29Wormy_Make sure your calcium is stored in safe containers.
17:05.37Hachimanspoop
17:15.56HachimanImperios Monet Wormy_: Do you guys know much about Celtic mythology and magick
17:17.50Wormy_not much
17:21.07ImperiosA bit
17:21.21Wormy_Tibetan dream magic and nei kung are magics im familiar with
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17:22.09ImperiosOluapPlayer: Wanna do Mythics? Haven't played WoW in a while
17:22.24ImperiosWith you that is
17:22.46OluapPlayerDon't think I can today, I'm having connection issues
17:23.03OluapPlayeri've been offline until now because I had no internet for one
17:23.45ImperiosOh, alright
17:24.44OluapPlayerI tried to do world quests earlier and my attacks were coming off nearly a second after the button presses
17:24.46OluapPlayersuffering
17:26.16OluapPlayerI wanted to ask. Is your Broken Shore filled with Valarjar too?
17:27.25OluapPlayerThere are vrykul everywhere there. I was wondering if it's because i'm a warrior or if it's the same for everyone
17:51.25ImperiosI see members of different factions
17:51.31ImperiosBut quite a few monks come to think about it
17:51.49ImperiosDo you see a place full of meditating monks in the Legionfall HQ too?
17:52.42OluapPlayerI see a ton of sparring vrykul and val'kyr carrying banners
17:52.59OluapPlayerDon't recall seeing any monks
18:02.53Wormy_Imperios:  Why are people tweeting the Saint Petersberg as "San Petersburgo"?  https://twitter.com/search?q=%22San%20Petersburgo%22&src=tren
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18:03.10ImperiosMay be the Spanish name
18:03.34ImperiosMight even
18:04.09ThundercraftyQ: What does the red prohibited or ban symbol mean in the upper-left corner of some GA adventures?
18:04.13Thundercrafty(I'm new to the GA portion as I only recently got to space stage.)
18:04.18Wormy_Loads of English tweets are...  I just wonder if ts error being passed around
18:05.28Wormy_I'm not sure.  It shaped by the ban symbol but you'd think banned adventures or adventures with banned creations wouldn't populate the Sporepedia
18:05.43Wormy_Do you have Creepy and Cute?
18:06.16ThundercraftyYes
18:06.20Wormy_Hm
18:06.35Wormy_I used to see it as well
18:06.37ThundercraftyI noticed this topic: "Banned creations, can't play adventures" http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/38243.page
18:07.00ThundercraftySeems to suggest that the adventure may have used an asset that has since been banned... or something
18:07.07Thundercraftycould even be a bug... maybe?
18:07.07GhelawayIf an adventure contains either banned or deleted creations, it'll happen.
18:07.25ThundercraftySo, those particular adventures are not playable?
18:07.35GhelawayNo.
18:08.11GhelawayYou can go to the adventure creator and play it via test drive mode, but it wouldn't be fair to make it playable when a creation in it is completely changed.
18:08.29ThundercraftyWhat about a closed padlock in the upper left corner? What does that mean?
18:08.50GhelawayLocked because it contains parts, e.g. Creepy & Cute or Bots parts, that you don't have.
18:09.13ThundercraftyI have the Creepy & Cute pack.
18:09.29ThundercraftyNot sure about Bot parts. What contains those?
18:09.46Wormy_They were a limited edition Dr Pepper pack
18:09.52Ghelawayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Spore_Bot_Parts_Pack
18:09.57Wormy_There are ways to access it
18:16.41HachimanXho: Decided I'm going to *try* and get my first tattoo later this year
18:17.00XhoChoose wisely
18:17.09HachimanLuckily I have a friend who's a tattoo expert to give me hints and advice on what places to go to
18:17.12XhoOh and hi
18:17.15HachimanFor quality work and affordable shit
18:17.16HachimanAnd hi
18:17.20HachimanI did say 'spoop' earlier
18:18.08HachimanI was contemplating the idea of having a stylized Ouroboros design on the back of my neck; only problem with that is while it would look aesthetic as fuck presumably, I wouldn't be able to admire it
18:19.15Wormy_Hachi:  Not quite an Ouroboros, but as deep http://dragonet.narod.ru/illustrat/dragon1_1.jpg
18:19.58Wormy_The dragon is trying its best to emulate the third dimension, but no matter how much it twists and turns, it is imprisoned
18:20.00HachimanThat's kinda cool
18:21.46Wormy_Look up Escher tattoos lol
18:22.34Wormy_Maybe the tattoo could be in a place you can't see with your own eyes, but graphically represent it such that it gives that message
18:23.53HachimanI mean, I was advised back of the neck because it'd be both aesthetic to look at when it is shown to people and also easy to hide when I go for formal occasions like interviews
18:24.06HachimanI also feel like having it be centralized somewhere on the back is only right
18:24.20Wormy_Maybe back of the shoulder?
18:24.32Wormy_https://rattatattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/This-tattoo-design-shows-the-famous-MC-Escher-art-work-of-an-urobolus-of-two-hands-drawing-each-other-594x487.jpeg
18:24.50HachimanEsher tattoos I imagine are fucking outrageously expensive hur
18:25.33Wormy_hm yeah
18:27.27Wormy_I don't know how you could endure tattooing an eyelid http://www.mens-den.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/pic_0102.jpeg
18:28.19HachimanEither ridiculous pain tolerance or lots and lots of anaesthetic
18:28.54Wormy_I personally will never have a tattoo because I know I would begin to hate having a permanent pattern
18:29.13HachimanBut if you get an Ouroboros, it's an infinite pattern
18:30.45Wormy_I did want glow in the dark meridians once
18:32.04ImperiosOluapPlayer: Actually just checked I see a lot of monks there
18:32.52HachimanOne of my friends had a genius idea based around the fact that there are people who have had the whites of their eyes tattooed black; that is, injecting vantablack into your eyeball
18:35.47Wormy_oh?
18:36.05HachimanYou know what vantablack is right?
18:36.14Wormy_Yes
18:36.28HachimanInject that into your eyeballs for the TRUE black-eyed look
18:36.34Wormy_And I've seen black eyed tattoos
18:36.53Wormy_I thought you was going to say he had an idea based on it
18:37.14HachimanOh, no, that IS the idea
18:37.17HachimanNo one's done it yet afaik
18:37.31HachimanThen again it's been a year since he brought it up so *maybe* it's been done
18:38.05Wormy_Eyeball tattoos exist, but probably not with vantblack
18:38.30HachimanYeah that's what I meant
18:38.43OluapPlayerthis kills the eye
18:38.48Wormy_I find it disgusting
18:38.50HachimanI'd never get anything so ridiculous as eyeball tattoos, as cool as they are, as I very much fancy retaining my sight
18:39.11HachimanEh I find it difficult to call tattoos disgusting
18:39.11Wormy_Its not like my to shun things but I don't see the appeal
18:39.22Wormy_of eye tats
18:39.41Wormy_I think it makes people look ugly
18:40.56Wormy_Though a little cyberpunk, maybe
18:41.07HachimanPeople love that cyberpunk aesthetic
18:41.39Wormy_I still mean to DIY my room with cyberpunk decor
18:42.41Wormy_This guy actually does have superhuman abilities from his black eye drops https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/8/13/1439481891432/a80fb7f0-f627-4bbf-a5b7-6c473db5e53c-620x372.jpeg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=6f6c02d4709e4e86c9424f1222fb7004
18:43.12Wormy_" After turning his eyes black, the liquid apparently allowed Licina to identify shapes the size of a hand 10 metres away in the dark, as well as pick out people hiding in the woods 50 metres away – according to the findings of their study (PDF). Ophthalmologists strongly advise against trying this at home: they say a single application of Ce6 can cause retinal haemorrhage and central retinal vein occlusion. "
18:43.36Wormy_https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/architecture-design-blog/2015/aug/14/body-hackers-the-people-who-turn-themselves-into-cyborgs
18:44.16HachimanMy friend is very much into the idea of people implanting LED lights and magnets beneath the skin and such
18:44.31HachimanSo you could have an LED clock on - or rather, in - your wrist
18:45.30Wormy_Your friend would be better off with a mix of chlorin e6, insulin and dimethylsulfoxide than vantablack
18:45.54Wormy_I like cyborg/body hacks that have a use
18:46.12Monet2Wouldn't an LED under the skin be hard to see?
18:47.16HachimanDepends on the LED and how deep beneath the skin layer it is
18:47.53ImperiosWormy_: My parents are already blaming Ukrainians and the USA
18:47.57ImperiosOh, and liberals
18:47.59Imperios#Russia
18:48.00OluapPlayerput LED on bones        become self-X-ray skeleton man
18:48.18Wormy_Also, I'm under the opinion the human race has always been cyborgs, with technology being an extension of our flesh and minds, and our tools / emerging cultural knowledge influencing our on evolution
18:48.24ImperiosXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcT4L_frrHI
18:49.02Wormy_Therefore by typing on this laptop, I am jacked in and communicating with people from Oxford, to France and Russia
18:49.05HachimanYeah but that's not the same as having a third, mechanical limb extending out of your back like a spider limb
18:49.49OluapPlayercyber-driders
18:50.16Wormy_Body hacks should be in such a way that couldn't be otherwise
18:50.34Wormy_Think of a reason for a third mechanical limb, and I'll all be with it
18:50.58Wormy_(or body hacks could compensate for physical organs / limbs)
18:51.08OluapPlayerSo you can hold a gun at the center of your body like Doomguy
18:51.57Wormy_I hope he has a tripod leg to support reverberation
18:52.06HachimanExtra limbs to masturbate with
18:52.12HachimanAye
18:52.14OluapPlayerGranted a hand coming out of your back would probably be very curbersome
18:52.40HachimanI mean, the Adeptus Mechanicus don't have much trouble
18:53.01OluapPlayerThat's because they're 99% nuts and bolts
18:53.19Hachimanmeanwhile im 99% nut
18:53.32OluapPlayerand you make me wanna bolt
18:53.36Hachimankek
18:53.46Wormy_I would personally like to see in the infrared and ultraviolet spectrum
18:54.12Wormy_And stimulate my neurons to perceive new colours (of possible)
18:54.18Wormy_*if
18:54.48OluapPlayerAre new colours even a possibility?
18:55.05HachimanIf that one species of crustacean can do it, so can you
18:55.05Wormy_There is a man who had lenses put in his eyes but something went wrong in the surgery and he can absorb UV
18:55.58ImperiosUltraviolet and infrared
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18:56.24OluapPlayerultraviolet is just violet but STRONGER
18:57.10HachimanInfrared is just red but infrarior
18:57.23Wormy_I don't know Oluap.  My feeling is that the potential for colour processing is in our genes, but they develop through feedback as we grow.  My mum can't see blue, and I tried to make her see blue using the eclipse of Mars illusion, and it failed.  So I think she lacks an internal quale of blue
18:58.01HachimanWhat does she see instead of blue?
18:58.06OluapPlayerSo she's colourblind
18:58.11Wormy_Seeing new ranges of light is one thing, seeing them as *new* colours is a perception based thing
18:58.13Wormy_Yeah
18:58.59Wormy_The Eclipse of Mars illusion involves staring at a red circle and tiring the cells responsible for detecting red
18:58.59OluapPlayerStill, we've got a pretty good description of every colour we know of. If something entirely new and un-described appeared I feel it'd be a massive mindscrew
18:59.30Wormy_No blue is actually detected, its purely in the brain.  But it is an intense blue
18:59.38Wormy_I ctually thought I'd broken my Mum
18:59.55Wormy_She got an intense headache and felt dazzled
19:01.02Wormy_My mother has a weird colour blindness that doesn't conform to other kinds
19:01.20Wormy_She can see everything up to green as I do
19:01.29Wormy_Blue is grey-brown
19:01.46Wormy_I'm pretty sure she can't see violet, but she thinks she does
19:03.19Wormy_Maybe if a colour blind person like her was repeatidly subjected to the eclipse of Mars illusion, the brain might grow its potential for blue through neuroplasticty.  Though adult brains lose a lot of this potential
19:03.33Wormy_The colour sensing region is close to the language centre
19:03.44HachimanCould fix it with stem cells
19:04.01Wormy_If a child fails to to learn a language after early teenage years, they are never likely to learn any language
19:04.19Wormy_(i.e. wild children)
19:04.23HachimanAh
19:04.24Wormy_*feral
19:04.50HachimanWormy_: Makes me wonder about the possibility of feral children on Proxima
19:05.01Wormy_Easily so
19:05.11HachimanGranted they'd very unlikely to survive given the alien biology of the planet
19:05.25Wormy_As long as the feral children learn to hide in those stromatilites during a solar storm
19:05.32HachimanAh yes
19:05.44HachimanWell I imagine they'd learn from the builders
19:05.45Wormy_Didn't they try to eat the aliens?  I can't remember
19:06.01HachimanI don't think so?
19:06.02ImperiosWormy_: That's because there's a specific time when the human mind is very receptive to language acquisition
19:06.10ImperiosIt is a rather complex process,
19:06.34Wormy_That's what I'm saying, yeah
19:07.24Wormy_Young brains are more neuroplastic, especially the language centre (and so might the colour-perception centre)
19:08.05XhoOluapPlayer: So the Hammer of Sauron was almost too easy
19:08.38OluapPlayerIt was a simple fight yes
19:09.04XhoI've had captains harder than that tho
19:09.40Wormy_My hypothesis is that people born with cone deficiencies mean that areas of the brain that develop in response to stimulus (i.e. blue light) never develop properly
19:10.06Wormy_So genetically we all have potentials, but the developmental context controls how that get's expressed
19:10.13Wormy_*gets
19:10.30OluapPlayerConsidering you stopped the story to kill every uruk in the area, you're probably overleveled
19:11.03XhoHm might be
19:11.18XhoI'm into the final ability tier so that probably explains it
19:11.19Wormy_Otherwise, staring at this red circle should have made my mother percieve an illusion of blue https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5639/2020/1600/eclipsemars9pn.0.png
19:12.17Wormy_I'm not taking myself too seriously though
19:12.21Wormy_Don't worry
19:12.28OluapPlayerIf your mom is colourblind then she's probably physically unable to perceive blue
19:12.34OluapPlayerThat's what colourblind means after all
19:12.35Wormy_I'm not a neurobiologist
19:12.46OluapPlayerher eyes are borked
19:12.50Wormy_Well its not quite that simple
19:13.05Wormy_She can see red, and the illusion emerges from tiring the red cones
19:21.48Wormy_Having never had blue stimulus, what I;m suggesting is that if blue cones were injected or activated in her eyes, her brain still might not experience it as blue, but continue to as grey.  Or maybe it could learn it.  But lessons from language studies suggest not
19:22.20TechnobliteratorJak and Daxter on PS4 :ooo
19:22.23TechnobliteratorI am so hyped
19:23.31Wormy_Maybe one day we will be able to engineer the brain to experience new colours or other qualia, I can't begin to imagine what the world would be like when culture and mind evolve those closely
19:23.41Wormy_*so
19:24.41OluapPlayerwrite borealis war u blonde shite
19:25.05Technobliteratorneva
19:25.38Xhokeks
19:26.28Hachiman>implying blondes can write
19:26.32HachimanFUNNYYYYY JOKE
19:26.39OluapPlayershuddup u lazy shite
19:26.54OluapPlayerall shites
19:26.59OluapPlayeryall even
19:27.35Xhoand u is king o the shites
19:27.42Xhoall hail the king
19:28.50Hachimanthe king is dead       long live the king
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19:29.48dino82_hi
19:29.52XhoHi
19:31.09Wormy_@Hachi:  I can't stop listening to Nordic folk music, the only folk worth listening to
19:31.34HachimanFinnish folk music is good too you know
19:31.38HachimanOr rather
19:31.43HachimanFinnish folk metal
19:31.58Wormy_In England my experience of folk tends to be just a bunch of aged hippies singing about badgers at the local "stop the badger cull"
19:32.15Wormy_singing in shrill voices
19:32.33HachimanScandinavian folk metal is fairly up your alley I'd say, as is Finnish folk metal
19:32.39OluapPlayerThey can be metal if they're honey badgers
19:32.57Wormy_When I listen to Warduna, its feels like it could summon Odin
19:33.13Wormy_I have listened to Viking metal before, but I know thats different to folk metal
19:33.29HachimanEh, I mean, kinda
19:34.00Wormy_https://youtu.be/cIUoMsV80r8?t=24m18s
19:34.04XhoAre you listening to Korpiklaani by any chance
19:34.16Wormy_Wardruna
19:34.23XhoI meant Hachi soz
19:34.51Hachimannon not at the moment
19:35.01Xhoyall crazy folk people
19:35.06HachimanI haven't listened to Korpiklaani or Wintersun in a while
19:35.10HachimanNow that I think of it
19:35.31Wormy_Korpiklaani looks familiar
19:36.09XhoI'm still listening to The Violent Sleep of Reason
19:36.11Xhodat album tho
19:39.39XhoHachiman: Have you actually listened to the Violent Sleep of Reason yet
19:39.57HachimanAgh I haven't, I need to
19:40.07HachimanI keep telling myself I am and I haven't had the chance or memory
19:40.13XhoThe more I listen to it the more I'm inclined to say it's their best album
19:40.37HachimanI know that Clockworks is supposed to be super good
19:40.58Xhoholy hell m8
19:41.16XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFiDcazicdk go nuts
19:48.04Wormy_Mongolian folk is great too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP3LvTqBgSQ
19:48.13Wormy_Basically, warrior cultures make great folk
19:48.19Wormy_hippies don't
19:48.43HachimanAye
19:48.51HachimanMongolian throat singin tho
19:49.33XhoAnd then we have N-Dubz
19:49.45Wormy_﹕ᵈᵉᵉᵖ﹕
19:50.27Wormy_My reference to badgers actually happened
19:50.59Wormy_Went to a pub to watch a protest duo raise money against the badger cull
19:51.24Wormy_But the music was awful, they looked like aged hippies too
19:51.55Wormy_About the beautiful badgers plsying in the emerald green woods or something
19:52.21Wormy_And the middle class polite crowd gave them a clap regardless of their real feelings
19:53.27Hachimanhur
19:54.25XhoSo that high pitched whistle is actually throat singing
19:54.32XhoI always thought it was a wind instrument
19:54.45Xhodon't say the voice is a wind instrument because I will destroy you
19:58.07OluapPlayeris mayonnaise an instrument
19:58.12Xhoyes
20:01.41Wormy_i thoughtd anything can be a instrument
20:03.16XhoI suppose
20:03.46Wormy_Now I'm going to post Lemmy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSodCuo73ig
20:07.26Wormy_Brotherhood of Man = Our world - "Mighty cities laid to ruin, burning to the ground.  Chaos rules the world, now mortal, brotherhood of man."
20:42.16Tek0516My descriptions of Farengeto astrography are quite the rollercoaster. Most of them end up reading like "Modia: Homeworld of Farengeto's most power species and moon of a gas giant. Also ruined by climate change and on the brink of a racially-motivated civil war." :P
20:43.10ImperiosAlso known as the United States
20:45.13Xhoayyy lmao
20:46.24Tek0516"Lower Katar: Economic powerhouse. Lots of diaspora and border disputes." "Quadrants: Prospered post-GXS. Now giant fortress." Nothing on there gets to stay happy. XD
21:02.42Tek0516Farengeto Trade Coalition: Things not be better yet, but at least you're not owned by genocidal slavers anymore.
21:09.51ImperiosHachiman: https://68.media.tumblr.com/a75d907275de265e47897e8c45a02622/tumblr_onf9avX86p1u4iupgo1_540.jpg
21:11.44Wormy_seen
21:14.41Tek0516"Cyrannian Farengeto: Intergalactic colonial adventure. If the GEC gets mad we blow the wormhole and let the colony burn."
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21:39.00XhoOluapPlayer AndroImp: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Winter_of_Discontent#The_Sun_Claimer I actually updated a story
21:40.02OluapPlayeralive story man
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21:43.29*** mode/#sporewiki [-b *!51867c24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.71.40.120]] by Wormy_chop
21:43.30Xhorip ban guy
21:43.42Wormy_chopI'm trying to unban
21:43.49Xhonot!rip ban guy
21:44.06OluapPlayerIf you're trying to unban Spartian, he was already here earlier
21:44.06*** mode/#sporewiki [-b *!51867c24@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.71.40.120] by Wormy_chop
21:44.29Wormy_chopOh
21:45.01Wormy_chopIn the last 2 hours?
21:45.17Wormy_chopDon't know how I missed that.
21:45.51OluapPlayerDuring the morning, about 9 hours ago
21:46.06Wormy_chopstrange http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:221291#8
21:46.27OluapPlayerStrange. He showed up, talked a bit and then left
21:48.26Tek0516Considering the wall of comments I saw it's hard to believe he was here for less than 10 minutes
21:49.02Wormy_chopWhat was his gateway, if anyone has a record?
21:49.27OluapPlayerI don't have it anymore, but it should show up tomorrow in the logs
21:49.31Wormy_chop51867c24@gateway/web/freenode/ - "51867c24" this part is a pure guess
21:49.42Wormy_chopYeah, that will be soon
21:49.46Tek05169:47 AM ⇐ kingsparta300 quit (c3c23032@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.194.48.50) Quit: Page closed
21:49.52Wormy_chopThanks
21:50.38Tek0516Benefits of using a bouncer. :P
21:50.47*** mode/#sporewiki [-b *!*c3c23032@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.194.48.50] by Wormy_chop
21:55.27Tek0516The more I consider Farengeto's Cyrannus colonies the more I realize they're not. They have territory in Cyrannus but also have territory in the Milly Way, and their capital is even in the Milky Way. XD
21:55.36Wormy_chopIts a different IP to the one he was using before.  So whether he was using some IP range that got globally blocked by coincidence, I don't know.
21:56.05Tek0516It's possible we got ban heavy on him at his worst.
21:56.57Wormy_chopI could only find one case of him being banned on IRC by matching the logs with the wiki block
21:57.07Wormy_chopBut there could have been more
21:57.17Wormy_chopBut I'm not trawling through months of logs
21:57.30Wormy_chopEspecially as IP addresses and gateways change
21:57.37Tek0516Yeah
21:57.39Wormy_chop*could
21:58.29Tek0516Maybe check he's not using IPs banned from IRC in general too. You never know.
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21:59.00Tek0516Hello Frodo
21:59.04Tek0516... *Drodi
21:59.10Tek0516... *Drodo
21:59.18Tek0516>.>
21:59.37Wormy_chopDo you know where I'd find that out?
21:59.56XhoFrodoEmpire
22:00.02Xhobasically the shire
22:00.20Wormy_chopI've asked him to send me the ban message if he gets it again, that might give insight
22:00.26XhoI want to put that on IRC moments cause I cracked right up
22:00.27Tek0516No idea besides seeing if he can connect at all.
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22:00.46OluapPlayerHELLFIRE
22:00.58Wormy_chopHi
22:02.17DrodoEmpireHey guys
22:03.25Tek0516Alright, back to the rollercoaster that is Farengeto astrography.
22:04.24Wormy_chopThere's been a couple of times when I've been temporarily banned from freenode, on my phone network
22:05.27Wormy_chopOh yay, the "new" Conan is on
22:06.20Wormy_chopMorgan Freeman narrating it, surely its going to be good, right?
22:06.28XhoJust rename it to Ronan and have Ronan Keating's face on it
22:07.02Tek0516Next up, Farengeto's Delcath: Collapsed states, slavers, Genocidal maniacs and a giant hole in the universe. Now under new management.
22:08.04Xhobasically angazhar world
22:11.34DrodoEmpire^
22:12.14DrodoEmpireTek: The Drodo could send over IDMP to help police the region
22:15.07Tek0516Things are stable enough. It's just not so perfect in Farengeto. :O
22:15.10Tek0516*:P
22:20.18Tek0516Ezlang has recovered, the Mardor are dismantled, the Gargator are reforming and the navigatable parts of the Aeoneonatrix anomaly have been charted. The only real recent messing things up there were brief DCP incursions. *shakes fist at Wormy_chop*
22:21.30DrodoEmpireright
22:27.39Wormy_chopDon't temp me with more
22:28.05OluapPlayerWhenever you name yourself that, I picture you doing karate chops
22:29.49Wormy_chopIt means channel op, but yes that is the idea
22:34.28Wormy_chopor the chop my mighty battle-axe
22:36.10DrodoEmpireHey uh
22:36.21DrodoEmpireSpartian's still banned-- does anybody know why?
22:40.41Wormy_chopDon't know
22:40.54Wormy_chopAsking if he's getting a message
22:41.11DrodoEmpireRight. We might need a guy on that >.<
22:41.44DrodoEmpireAhh, okay
22:54.33Tek0516DrodoEmpire: He was on earlier
22:54.59Wormy_chopI think it is something about the IP address he is using
22:55.39Wormy_chopI have unbanned it on SporeWiki even though it was unbanned anyway
22:56.11DrodoEmpireAhh
22:56.26DrodoEmpireyeah he's on #katar now
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23:10.37kingspartaah
23:10.40kingspartamuch better
23:11.17kingspartahello everyone
23:12.05Wormy_chopHooray
23:12.22kingspartaI think I might be in love guys
23:13.13kingspartaah crap
23:13.17kingspartahave to go to bed now
23:13.23kingspartanight night!
23:14.26DrodoEmpireWell, that's good
23:14.30DrodoEmpireGot things working
23:15.13Wormy_chopI got help from #freenode
23:15.34Wormy_chopI think that me using /mode #sporewiki -b on a user that was not banned at that address must have blocked Kingsparta.  Perhaps the reason he had trouble before was unrelated.
23:21.28Technobliterator<PROTECTED>
23:23.42Wormy_chop<PROTECTED>
23:23.56Wormy_chop<PROTECTED>
23:25.30Technobliterator<PROTECTED>
23:27.13DrodoEmpireYeah
23:34.42DrodoEmpireWormy_Chop https://i.redd.it/4h7k2o69lkly.jpg
23:35.04Wormy_choplol
23:38.17DrodoEmpirehttps://i.redd.it/t1evcllskkly.jpg
23:42.37Wormy_chopWhen you meant to go to phys.org and took a wrong turn to http://phyd.org/phyd/Professional.html
23:44.25DrodoEmpirelol
23:45.33Wormy_chophe seems cool actually
23:46.32DrodoEmpireOh the guy?
23:46.51Wormy_chopyeah
23:46.58DrodoEmpireHuh cool
23:47.47DrodoEmpirehttps://i.redd.it/qkxg0oo9bily.jpg

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