IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170402

00:02.32MonetImply brilliant
00:02.44DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8WtKncWsAA4tgO.jpg:large
00:02.47DrodoEmpire<.<
00:04.24MonetAnyway Andromeda.
00:04.42MonetA quick cursory glance slightly disappointed by the main species.
00:05.27MonetKett are dogmatic space Romans that use slave armies and the Anagarans are touchy-feely space hippies who live in communes.
00:05.59MonetAlthough the wiki -does- mention they have between 200-300 languages so points to Bioware for including a detail often overlooked in sci-fi
00:06.09DrodoEmpireThat's cool
00:06.25DrodoEmpireI'm really sick of the trope of one species equalling one culture
00:08.29MonetIt does kind of mean a a result that the story is a Dances with Wolves kind of thing.
00:09.41MonetAlso Kett soldiers have unit names like "anointed" and "chosen"
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00:13.54DrodoEmpireHi
00:16.47MonetAnd like all bad guys the Kett attacked and harassed the Anagara for, as far as I can tell, little reason beyond bodies for their army.
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00:27.39Tek0516You'll see a big red text at the top indicating so if it's off.
00:30.06Wormy_awayIts not there, so it must be on
00:31.56Wormy_awayNow I'm above it, but the align with chevrons indicators disappeared
00:32.07Tek0516You want to take it gentle and slow, try and keep it below 10m/s. And use the map and the bottom for alignment.
00:32.50MonetI'll admit, Andromeda is ambitious
00:32.55Tek0516*at the bottom
00:33.52MonetIncluding this mechanic where you can build a defined personality based on conversation choices.
00:34.19MonetAct snarky all the time for instance and all your responses can become more snarky.
00:35.18Tek0516huh
00:41.33MonetI always liked how Bioware deconstructed standard alien tropes
00:41.58MonetLike how only a couple of races in Mass Effect are named after their homeworld.
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00:43.59DrodoEmpireHi
00:44.57ZF106Hello.
00:58.15MonetThe more I listen to "my face is tired" the mire I wonder if the character speaking is supposed to be human
01:01.12ZF106http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Sidhai - Tell me what you guys think of this.
01:02.03DrodoEmpirefuccin gay
01:02.04DrodoEmpire<.<
01:02.36ZF106FITE ME!
01:02.39DrodoEmpireHmm, so far interesting
01:02.49DrodoEmpireI like how you use Celtic influences and the like in your fiction
01:03.33ZF106Thanks.
01:04.15Tek0516What's the rough current year in the fictionverse?
01:04.29ZF106290000000001
01:04.33DrodoEmpire2821-2822
01:04.41ZF106I was close.
01:04.49DrodoEmpire1488, H.H calendar
01:04.50DrodoEmpire<.<
01:05.00AtsyBoih.h?
01:05.09DrodoEmpireshhhhhhhhhhh
01:06.19AtsyBoidamn
01:07.36Tek0516DrodoEmpire: I was considering updating the Katar map while I do some Farengeto updates. It's weird looking at that map after so long and wondering what's even canon on it anymore. XD
01:07.46DrodoEmpire^
01:12.27Tek0516DrodoEmpire: ...I just noticed this is the Katar map on the page. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Seriously_People_Update_The_Map.png
01:12.42DrodoEmpirelmao
01:12.51DrodoEmpireGET TO IT d:<
01:12.57DrodoEmpire*D:<
01:13.51Tek0516The most I have ATM is one with stuff labelled "Post-GXS" so that's something but still a decade out of date. XD
01:14.51MonetWhat's with the grid?
01:15.59Tek0516Monet: OfficerJackal forcibly removing his empires
01:16.32AtsyBoiWas just gonna ask
01:16.42Tek0516Hence the file name.
01:20.32AtsyBoigonna replace one of Jackal's areas with the Sarillian Empire, k?
01:20.41Tek0516No.
01:20.49AtsyBoi"areas"
01:20.50DrodoEmpireYeah, no.
01:20.59AtsyBoione of the grid spots
01:21.00DrodoEmpireAnd we're telling you you aren't
01:21.22Tek0516I am the official keeper of the Katar map and say no.
01:21.28AtsyBoioh
01:21.28DrodoEmpire^
01:21.28AtsyBoiok
01:21.47DrodoEmpireIf you want to do that, that'll require further discussion.
01:21.59AtsyBoimay i at least have the SE in the map at any point?
01:22.34Tek0516If for no other reason than one is still technically OfficerJackal's, and the other is probably going to be at least partially filled in by Drodo.
01:22.53DrodoEmpireGet the SE figured out and written first, then we could talk >.<
01:23.00DrodoEmpireOr rather, started
01:23.14Tek0516Katar also has some special rules in claiming in it.
01:23.43AtsyBoihm?
01:25.03AtsyBoican you please explain them?
01:25.07Tek0516Katar Sector is an owned region. You can't just claim it like the rest of the Milky Way.
01:26.21DrodoEmpire...Though, its original purpose -was- as a ground for new fictions
01:26.30AtsyBoiOh
01:26.35DrodoEmpireSo maybe you shouldn't be too restrictive
01:26.54DrodoEmpireThat, or we abolish it as a distinct region of its own and give up ownership
01:27.28Tek0516DrodoEmpire: Though it's also supposed to be for smaller fictions which I'm not sure Atsyboi would want anyway
01:27.53DrodoEmpireLet him speak for himself
01:28.33Tek0516Just for continuity sake I'd rather not add anything large to Katar.
01:28.56AtsyBoiI'll settle just outside
01:30.23Tek0516We can revisit once you have something more concrete though.
01:34.29Tek0516That map is also really out of date in the first place.
01:40.39Wormy_awaysweet dreams https://twitter.com/NeruNox/status/807278901940617216
01:41.52DrodoEmpireNot clicking lol
01:43.47Wormy_awayits some cooling lava falling into an active lava tube, looks like dead bodies descending to hell
01:44.12Wormy_awaywell not falling
01:45.41DrodoEmpireOh ww
01:45.43DrodoEmpire*wow
01:46.10Tek0516http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/75/Katar_2808.png/revision/latest?cb=20170402014411 Here's the Post-GXS version of the map I made probably at least a year ago. >.>
01:46.27Tek0516DrodoEmpire had the biggest growth on it I think
01:49.22AtsyBoiand didn't have a giant bite out of it xD
01:49.45Tek0516Well a decade before that it was two disconnected chunks of land.
01:49.54Tek0516*space
01:51.20AtsyBoiOk
01:52.06AtsyBoiLink?
01:52.53AtsyBoibc i'm a noob xD
01:55.35AtsyBoi~screech
01:55.35infobotscreech is, like, a drunken f**k, he has blue hands and amusing stories. This makes him fun for all the family (unless under 18).
01:56.36Tek0516It's from the territory conquered from the Drakodominatus Tyranny, largely from the mostly unwritten http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Tyranny-Katar_Front
01:57.05Wormy_awayThe Signal From Tölva is out in a few days
02:09.23Monethttps://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/81469728922551772/51B62D5C4CF5D3D21573BBCDB5CB70ECDFBE18D2/ Krogan diplomacy
02:12.10DrodoEmpirehur
02:15.17Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/msFAL
02:17.40MonetALso one thing is Andromeda is probably the nicest the game has looked, odd animations aside.
02:17.49MonetLike...really nice skin.
02:20.33Monethttp://guides.gamepressure.com/masseffectandromeda/gfx/word/340195654.jpg like this dude
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02:38.31Tek0516Hello
03:20.14DrodoEmpiretest
03:47.44Tek0516DrodoEmpire: I do occasionally wonder what's happened to the Katar Sector Alliance by now in the 2820s.
03:50.23DrodoEmpireProbably defunct
03:51.03DrodoEmpireOr de facto the Drodo-Farengeto alliance with some tiny satellites
03:52.33Tek0516Basically all its members now except the Farengeto and Drodo are defunct, declined in relative power, or faded in activity
04:03.34Tek0516Though I imagine if it still exists Farengeto would have had to force a structural change, since the Drodo had twice the voting power at the most recent canon.
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07:26.37ImpyDroidHi
07:26.55ImpyDroidTybusen Liquid_Ink: https://youtu.be/BcT4L_frrHI
07:30.00TybusenA surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
07:52.37ImpyDroidTybusen: What is Trump up to nowadays? I have not heard of him in a while.
07:54.39TybusenOther than the ongoing investigation on the Trump-Russia collusion stuff, nothing too much out of the ordinary I guess
07:54.48TybusenBy ordinary I mean ordinary by Trump standards
07:55.14TybusenThe effort to repeal Obamacare failed a couple weeks ago I think
07:55.15Liquid_InkHe's also introduced a bill to make it legal for internet servers to sell people's history
07:55.36TybusenI don't think Trump introduced that bill, but it did get passed by the House
07:55.43ImpyDroidTopkek
07:55.51TybusenI think he'll probably sign it if it gets to his desk
07:56.02ImpyDroidoh
07:56.27TybusenIf the Dems are as committed to stopping Trump as they say they are (hint: they aren't), they'll try to kill it in the Senate (hint: they probably won't)
07:58.01TybusenMost we can do right now is make noise about it and hopefully it'll go the same path as SOPA and other shitty internet/telecom bills
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09:26.00MethanogenHello
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09:41.12GhelaeHello.
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09:50.11JepardiHi
09:50.20GhelaeHello.
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10:32.24TheGreatGroxdoes anyone know where i could find the soundtrack for spore?
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12:18.20Wormy_hi
12:23.06Wormy_Obligatory cute animal video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gNpJ0Mpucw
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12:37.12ImperiosDrodoEmpire Wormy_ Liquid_Ink: Okay I just received what is perhaps the most ignorant statement I have ever seen
12:37.25Liquid_InkOh?
12:37.34Imperios"Islam had no philosophers, and its idea of heaven was stolen from the Vikings' Valhalla"
12:37.41Imperios^ THAT
12:38.10Wormy_errrr
12:39.40Wormy_But no, Islam had philosophers.  It is an Abraham religion with notions of heaven other like-concepts and is older than the Vikings.
12:40.07Wormy_And don't EVER confuse heaven with Valhalla
12:40.10Liquid_InkIt's Christianity 2.0
12:40.15Liquid_InkOr Judiaism 3.0
12:40.37Wormy_I hope Thor strikes this person down
12:41.10Wormy_with mighty Mjölnir
12:42.27ImperiosOh and now he's using the No True Scotsman fallacy
12:42.37Imperios"All Muslims are stone-worshipping savages"
12:42.44Imperios"OH NO I WAS ONLY TALKING ABOUT REAL ISLAM"
12:43.59Liquid_InkDoes he have a particular group of "real Muslims" in mind?
12:44.21Liquid_InkI don't think even ISIS are stone-worshipping savages.
12:44.28Liquid_InkISIS are gun-worshipping savages.
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12:46.15Liquid_InkHey
12:46.42Wormy_hi
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12:48.55Wormy_Ragnar being denied Valhalla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD5ihsa7XKU
12:49.57XhoAfternoon
12:50.07XhoWormy_: no heaven 4 u
12:50.18OluapPlayerhi
12:50.21Wormy_hi
12:51.18Wormy_An afterlife of feasting and drunken reverie seems good to me
12:51.39XhoJust as long as there are no hangovers
12:52.03OluapPlayercourse you'd want the chance to be drunk forever
12:52.14XhoHm, not sure whether to shave or not
12:52.28XhoIf I left it another week I'd have a beard full on
12:52.44OluapPlayerBut doesn't going to Valhalla also include having to go off and die horribly in battle every once in a while?
12:53.09Wormy_The fonal battle of Ragnarok
12:53.13Wormy_*final
12:53.29ImperiosThat was a good transition from the political discussion we had just a few moments ago
12:53.32OluapPlayerJust one battle then
12:53.35OluapPlayerNot as bad
12:54.03Wormy_Ragnar's vision denied him of it because he had himself christened to convince the French to let himto Paris with the intention of ransacking it
12:54.11OluapPlayerI arrived after the cancer then
12:54.13OluapPlayernot as bad
12:54.16Xhogg
12:55.08OluapPlayerImperios: Did you see Blizzard's April Fools post?
12:55.12Wormy_Oluap:  Ragnarok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7m2pUhjmis
12:55.17ImperiosThe patch notes were brilliant hur
12:55.27OluapPlayerYeah they were hilarious
12:55.39XhoOluapPlayer: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/172667621385439206/E7F5A2D9978252E8920E3ABB4F10ABEE0C09E65B/ Did you see my everyone dead army
12:55.45OluapPlayerYes
12:56.01OluapPlayerAbout time you progress the story
12:56.04ImperiosOluapPlayer: We had a small discussion on religion and politics that happened to involve VALHALLA
12:56.15Xhocannot progress story                  everyone must die
12:56.17ImperiosAnd once you came we shut up about everything except that
12:56.33OluapPlayerOdin saves the day once again
12:56.41OluapPlayerONLY COWARDS FEAR THE CALL OF BATTLE
12:58.52Wormy_Odin will be be defeated by Fenrir
12:59.11Wormy_Suut will spit fire across the world
12:59.24Wormy_And Fenrir will swallow the Sun
12:59.36OluapPlayerthat's what you get for not calling him a good boy
12:59.51Xhocaligaduro now needs a bork form
12:59.56XhoAlthough we have Crux so that's negated
12:59.59Xhodammit hacho
13:00.09OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlCbgZ7L91I don't think I've posted this here yet
13:00.15OluapPlayerheadphone warning I guess
13:00.31Xhowow
13:00.38Xho- Shu'wokerama, 2820
13:00.46OluapPlayerhur
13:01.05XhoTHIS IS THE SOUND THAT HERALDS THE END TIMES
13:01.45Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXYZttxunPw Shu'wokerama following the end of the War of the Ancient Three
13:02.28OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htfQIbeeGfg
13:03.24Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmNXPsXeAOI Wow
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13:05.24XhoOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ZQ1OdfcHI Krath and Shu at the end of BW3
13:05.52Wormy_Xho:  Potentially a spoiler, but yeah gg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fm7Unf9r8
13:06.00OluapPlayerdat sync
13:08.11XhoWormy_: lel denmark
13:08.13Xhoor norse people
13:08.19Wormy_heh
13:09.44Wormy_Apparently his son Bjorn Ironside really did this to an Italian city
13:12.44Tek0516Wormy_: Seen this on your wall? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:221291
13:13.02Wormy_I have not
13:13.06Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:14.30Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:15.17Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUjJysUMTw satan bird
13:15.20Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:15.25Tek0516So we don't have a choice even if we wanted?
13:15.49Wormy_It only applies to his account.
13:16.27Wormy_Right, Spartian wants to come back under a new username.  Whether or not we allow this is a community decision
13:16.46Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:17.49ImperiosKILL HIM
13:18.03Wormy_¬_¬
13:18.15Tek0516Is coming back under a different account even allowed by Wikia policy?
13:18.44Wormy_^ join chat
13:23.06Tek0516Imperios: By the way I suppose I should mention I made a made a small reference to your fiction in my stuff last night. Nothing major, just citing the Divinarium an IC influence of a Spodist religious reformation.
13:23.15ImperiosOoh show me
13:24.15Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:30.32Tek0516Imperios: Mostly a passing reference though I'm still overhauling the whole religion section.
13:30.38Tek0516http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Trade_Coalition#Gargatorian_Spodism
13:32.06Imperios> Though it has greatly fallen in its support, it still maintains a strong following despite efforts by the Farengeto government to supress it.
13:32.11Imperios#BareNakedSpodism
13:33.58Tek0516Old Gargatorian Spodism is basically pure "purge the non-believers", which is not very popular in a nation of non-believers. :P
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13:41.21OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_the_Ancient_Three#Pawns_of_the_Matriarch suddenly zazane section
13:41.54Xhojust read it
13:41.56Xhobamboozled m8
13:42.35XhoAh so Hekrax QQQQQ is Skar
13:42.55XhoI can't spell his name
13:43.00XhoQrayrloc
13:43.01Xhongh
13:43.12OluapPlayerYeah that name is QQQQQQQQQQQ
13:43.16OluapPlayerblame Hachi for it
13:43.38Xhotbf my names are no better
13:45.16TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, I lol'd
13:45.27OluapPlayerwut
13:45.31OluapPlayerOh the thing I posted
13:45.31OluapPlayerright
13:46.50TechnobliteratorI was afk
13:46.56Technobliteratoralso, I'll check new Ancient Three section now
13:47.03OluapPlayerGo write Borealis war goddamnnnn
13:47.28TechnobliteratorAfter :V
13:47.36TechnobliteratorI might be able to get some Borealis War done today
13:49.09Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17635337_1869030720012071_6356228975472048284_o.jpg?oh=b9014917a6396ff2ab99f359d13e7da5&oe=59506416
13:49.55OluapPlayerhur
13:51.46TechnobliteratorGood stuff :o
13:51.48TechnobliteratorI presume Hachi wrote it?
13:52.24OluapPlayerNo, I did
13:52.59Technobliteratoroh, it reminded me of his writing style a bit, plus it was about Zazane
13:53.02TechnobliteratorStill, good stuff
13:53.08OluapPlayerThe chars are Zazane but they were all under my control
13:53.30DrodoEmpireXho: true
13:53.41OluapPlayerIf Hachi had written the section it'd be about 5 times bigger than that
13:54.03DrodoEmpirehur
13:54.25MonetHachi's style is a lot more elaborate
13:54.47Xhomucho words
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13:55.26Cyrannian|busyHai
13:56.17OluapPlayerunbusy urself
13:57.35MonetI think the Blood could exist without Hekrax unless he built the company os that only he could manage it.
13:58.24OluapPlayerIt can't on the basis of me not wanting it around anymore
13:58.45MonetWhat about giving it to Hachi?
13:59.21OluapPlayerHachi gave it to me because he abandoned it for 5 years
13:59.36OluapPlayerBesides I already discussed this with him before writing that section
13:59.38MonetTechno? I know PMCs are her thing.
13:59.52MonetWell if it's been discussed, your call
14:00.25MonetMerely offering suggestions.
14:07.35Cyrannian|busyOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDAxIVQE0To&feature=youtu.be&t=151
14:08.13OluapPlayernot even andromeda is safe
14:10.31TechnobliteratorCould the PMC have been founded during the Borealis War?
14:11.07OluapPlayer>During the rise of the War Economy in the Second Borealis Galactic War, Skar founded his own private military company, The Blood, and proceed to profit out of the galaxy's chaotic nature by being part of proxy wars.
14:12.21Technobliteratorah
14:12.28TechnobliteratorI could mention it in the next section then?
14:12.31ImperiosCyrannian|busy: The legend returns
14:12.36OluapPlayerYou can
14:12.46Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Zr%27Ahgloth Also, new president
14:12.49Technobliterator8D
14:12.56OluapPlayerBy the time of the current section his PMC should already be around
14:13.35OluapPlayerHagto'Zhl is the real Zr'Ahgloth however, meaning he is the true presudent
14:13.38OluapPlayerpresident even
14:16.33Technobliteratordum
14:17.11OluapPlayerjust like zr'ahgloth
14:17.14OluapPlayerHURHURHURHUR
14:26.07ImperiosDrodoEmpire Wormy_: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21750135/14911333928130.jpg Did I show you this?
14:26.25DrodoEmpireNope
14:26.27DrodoEmpireBut lol
14:26.35Wormy_You haven't, but lol
14:26.57Wormy_They are united in hating the SJW
14:27.45DrodoEmpireAlso I'd contend that super-progressive folks are actually in the authoritarian left, or straddle the line with their one big trait being extremely leftist
14:28.15Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Union_Republic_of_Ottzello/Government/Leaders best page ever amirite
14:28.29Wormy_I agree somewhat
14:28.31TechnobliteratorI realise URO needs an Omega Commander at some point
14:29.13Wormy_The symbols also show a number of different leftist symbols lumped into one
14:29.32Wormy_Marxist, antifa, anarchist, progressive
14:29.56Wormy_Really, a lot of anarchists hate communists
14:30.33OluapPlayerWell that's a small page
14:31.04Wormy_And there are those who are united with the communist for the revolution
14:32.32ImperiosTechnobliterator: Fuck the monarchy right
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14:33.55Wormy_Imperios:  I wanted to show you this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM
14:34.53Wormy_Its about lessons of the bewuildering circus of russian politics
14:35.39Wormy_And Serkov
14:39.29Wormy_He's suggesting that all the tensions being whipped up are in a sense, a form of political control
14:39.51Wormy_Like how nws websites make money from causing rage (thuis, clicks)
14:40.28DrodoEmpireAhh, using confusion and outrage to maintain political control
14:40.34OluapPlayer_https://68.media.tumblr.com/69f0604db7d093b0822fa93137edca03/tumblr_on9kvywAIS1tq9q5vo1_400.gif
14:40.36DrodoEmpireI wonder (((((who))))) could be doing that
14:40.38DrodoEmpire<.<
14:40.49Wormy_lol
14:41.38Wormy_Our politicians are really confusing though.  They tell Scoitland to stay in the UK to remain in the EU, then we leave it a couple of years later (that might backfire though)
14:42.18MonetProbably jsut a case of not thinking ahead
14:42.52DrodoEmpireYeah true
14:43.08DrodoEmpireNever assume malice when incompetence is also a possibility
14:43.15Wormy_It may not be by intention here, but the claim is that in Russia, this guy called Serkov sponsored a number of political campaigns from the left and right spectrum
14:43.21DrodoEmpireRight
14:43.52Wormy_All the narratives could be effectively under control of Putin
14:44.16Wormy_While in the West, none of our narratives work anymore (hence the concept of "oh dearism")
14:45.07MonetWell consider how many trust Russia Today.
14:45.08Wormy_And that makes politicians in a way, more powerful because they are harder to challenge
14:49.23Wormy_Digging a bit deeper there's a lot of stuff on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislav_Surkov
14:50.59Wormy_I don't trust Russia Today, but RT is smart
14:51.22Wormy_They show protests and other problems in the UK before the BBC even televises it
14:52.29Wormy_So through filtered coverage, it can convince - especially lefties, that RT is a better source of information.  But much of it is cheery picking negative news from the West
14:53.00MonetIt appeals to that "What They don't tell you" crowd.
14:53.11ImperiosRussian propaganda is twofold
14:53.56ImperiosIt glorifies Russia, while also denigrating the West by showing various problems there, from SJWs to Neo-Nazis, often without taking a single side
14:54.10ImperiosFor example BLM was viewed from both sides in Russian media
14:55.26Imperios"Police brutality rises in America, frequently racially motivated, showing the racism still persisting in American society, though one cal also understand the policemen, who certainly are not fond of the African Americans who continue spreading chaos in the USA"
14:56.22Wormy_its like a postmodern theatre
14:56.58ImperiosI remember seeing some particularily awful piece of propaganda in our news once
14:57.30ImperiosIt talked about the Neo-Nazi marches in the Baltic states, seeking to portray all Balts as Nazis
14:58.15ImperiosA news reporter would point at one Baltic protester holding a sign in English
14:59.14ImperiosAnd say something like "Don't you see the words 'SS collaborator' on this poster? Does that not show how Balts are falling to the far right?"
14:59.37ImperiosAnd thing is, the sign actually read "No to the glorification of SS collaborators in Latvia", or something
14:59.59ImperiosThey literally used the Russian ignorance of English to dupe us into hating the Balts
15:00.44Wormy_Its especially insidious in that those who notice the lie and ask about it could be responded with something like "the reporter doesn't have good English, and we deeply apologise"
15:01.25MonetImperios: SOunds very familiar to modified soundbites and quotes taken out of context
15:04.33Wormy_The suggestion is that Western politicians are contradictory and that makes them hard to be understood by journalists and the public alike
15:05.14Wormy_Trump is a capitalist, but one that's seen as "bringing more jobs", he uses emotional rhetoric in common with left and right circles
15:06.05Wormy_Clinton is seen as a progressive person but has more right wing tendencies that Theresa May
15:07.21Wormy_Thing is is doesn't even have to be intentional, it just has to break conventional boundaries
15:08.55MonetIn Clinton's case it's because the American Left is still somewhat right-wing compared to how it appears in Europe.
15:09.21MonetOther times "more right wing than Theresa May" is part of the attack.
15:09.29Wormy_I remember enough lefties here obsessed in her campaign
15:10.05Wormy_But behind it all, she might not be that much of a desirable person to them
15:10.14MonetThat too.
15:10.34Wormy_Clinton simply breaks all simplified categorisations
15:10.48MonetOne thing that cannot really be argues, she was portrayed as a horrible callous woman.
15:11.16MonetWhether or not she really was is where all the arguments start.
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15:11.38Wormy_Probably no more than any other, in my opinion
15:15.09ImperiosMonet: What is May even like?
15:15.17ImperiosFrom what I have seen she is a moderate conservative
15:15.36MonetShe has been described as "a bloody difficult woman"
15:17.47Wormy_In some ways she has some really conservative policies on surveillance, on the other she has some socially progressive values, she has always supported same sex marriage
15:18.44Wormy_And she's very strong headed.  While other leaders were quick to denounce Trump, she was one of the first to visit him and be "first comem first served"
15:19.43MonetBritish conservatism I feel has been more about pragmatism or keeping the economy smooth (or maybe relaxed) than morality.
15:20.08Wormy_I did chuckle when the Daily Mail made a headline about May showing her legs, and she said something like "I don't care what people think of how I dress, I have more important things to discuss"
15:22.46Wormy_bbl
15:55.35Imperioshttps://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_in_the_shell_2017/ DNO
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15:57.22HachimanHi
15:57.44ImperiosHi
15:57.53ImperiosHachiman: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghost_in_the_shell_2017/ NOOOOO
15:58.18Hachiman42%
15:58.26HachimanThat's honestly better than I thought it'd get
15:59.26HachimanAlso, to put an end to the whole controversy regarding the Major being portrayed by a white actress; in the series, she admits to using a Caucasian body model so
16:02.17ImperiosYou don't get the reason behind the controversy, do you?
16:03.01ImperiosThere aren't usually any opportunities for Asian actors to get a lead role: this was basically a perfect opportunity which would make perfect sense, and it was wasted
16:03.27HachimanI just said why it partially wouldn't make sense hur
16:04.03HachimanLike, it's a thing that actually gets outright addressed
16:04.15ImperiosWe are not talking about the plot, but the concept itself
16:04.44ImperiosIt would make sense for her to be Asian considering the setting; of course it would also make sense for her to be Caucasian, or African, but that would take some explanation
16:04.53HachimanAlso I do get the reason behind the controversy but people are acting incredibly stupid about it
16:05.05ImperiosBah, people are stupid in general
16:05.06HachimanI just said why she's Caucasian
16:05.33ImperiosYou're mixing the rationale in the already done movie, with the rationale made on the conceptual level
16:06.15HachimanPlease let's not argue about this
16:06.17ImperiosUsually, movies like this do not accomodate for Asian actors, as they would not fit into the setting; especially as leads
16:08.04ImperiosThis was a good chance to have an Asian lead, considering the Japanese origin of the movie and the Oriental cyberpunk setting, but it was not used
16:08.30ImperiosNah I am not arguing, just explaining my position
16:08.53ImperiosI am not particularily angry about this, it's not say the Last Airbender where it completely destroys the verisimillitude of the setting
16:09.38HachimanLike, I get why people are angry
16:10.08HachimanAnd while I dislike whitewashing, some of the arguments people make are bullshit sometimes
16:10.31HachimanAlso, I don't see the Japs getting particularly upset that the Major is a white woman either
16:10.36HachimanThey thought she looked appropriate for the role
16:11.10ImperiosYeah it makes sense to adapt the setting and the actors
16:11.18ImperiosLike the Japanese Spider-Man is, well, JAPANESE
16:11.22ImperiosAnd also a racer
16:11.52HachimanAlso claiming that whites are the only people who racelift in media is also bullshit
16:12.49ImperiosYeah, case in point, Japanese Spider-Man
16:13.01HachimanAnd black L
16:13.05ImperiosWell
16:13.10ImperiosIf Light is white, L can be black
16:13.34ImperiosI would argue that America (America in particular) is slightly different because it is not monoethnic
16:13.36HachimanAlright, let me actually get my stance clear
16:13.56ImperiosBut of course adapting the setting is perfectly okay as long as some veracity is preserved
16:14.18ImperiosLike, say, tons of black people in Beauty and the Beast and tons of white people in Gods of Egypt felt... weird
16:14.21HachimanWhile I would prefer a person appropriate to the ethnicity of the character that's being portrayed to play the role, I don't mind an actor / actress actually playing the role *if they're good*
16:14.51HachimanBeauty & The Beast is trying too hard to be progressive
16:14.58ImperiosFUCKING YES
16:15.12ImperiosLeFou was fun though, they actually managed to develop his character through his sexuality
16:15.19ImperiosFUCKING BLACK PEOPLE IN BAROQUE FRANCE THOUGH
16:15.22ImperiosWHAT THE FUCK
16:15.30HachimanI don't fucking care if there's a gay scene; I watch B&tB for Gaston and Gaston only
16:15.35ImperiosYOU DO NOT INCLUDE BLACK PEOPLE WHERE THEY WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE
16:15.37HachimanOtherwise it bores the shit out of me
16:15.41ImperiosHachiman: There are no gay scenes
16:15.46ImperiosIt's so low-key you won't see it
16:15.59HachimanPeople ranted and raved about it so I'd assume it'd be a prominent thing
16:16.06ImperiosNope
16:16.09ImperiosIt's still a kids' movie
16:16.24ImperiosHachiman: The Russian reaction was even more hilarious
16:16.37ImperiosWe slapped an equivalent of a PG-13 rating on it
16:16.43Hachimanhur
16:16.54ImperiosI had to go with my sister so she could watch it, we were even warned before we went into the theater
16:17.01HachimanI'm kinda sad that from what I've seen, Gaston doesn't seem anywhere near what I was expecting
16:17.04Imperios"This is a 16+ movie: bring your children at your own discretion."
16:17.14ImperiosFUCKING 16+
16:17.22HachimanHoly shit lmao
16:17.47HachimanHis singing voice isn't great for the character and I don't feel like he's anywhere near as intimidating or hypermasculine as Gaston was intended to be
16:18.12ImperiosI like how Beast is actually lovable in this movie
16:18.21ImperiosHe has some positive traits
16:18.30ImperiosAnd it makes more sense for Belle to start liking him
16:18.57ImperiosBut yeah
16:19.34ImperiosFUCK YES LET'S ADD BLACK PEOPLE IN BAROQUE FRANCE, BUT EGYPT? NOPE, DIDN'T YOU KNOW EGYPT WAS POPULATED WITH BLONDE ARYAN WHITES
16:32.57OluapPlayerImperios: http://www.wowhead.com/news=261862/build-24117-ptr-preview-nomi-micro-holiday-event-legion-assault-you-are-not-peep Nomi is a holiday boss now
16:34.15MonetWait
16:34.31MonetDidn't France have territory in Africa during the 1700s.
16:35.35OluapPlayerOh no it's from yesterday
16:35.36Tek0516Limited but I think so. At minimum they were still part of the slave trade.
16:35.47OluapPlayerApril Fools joke went over my head this time
16:36.43MonetI'm sort of reminded of Brokeback Mountain
16:36.52MonetWIth Russia and BatB
16:36.57Hachimangay cowboy film lmao
16:37.07ImperiosMonet: It would make sense, yeah, but there are MANY black characters there, to the point of breaking verisimillitude
16:37.16MonetThere's like oen sex scene (the famosu tent scene) but it got slapped an 18+
16:37.17ImperiosIt was the same feeling as in the Last Airbender for example
16:37.31HachimanPlus I doubt it actually shows the blacks as, well, slaves
16:38.10ImperiosNo, it would make sense for there to be free blacks
16:38.16ImperiosDumas for example
16:38.28ImperiosUnlike in England becoming a freedman would not be as difficult
16:38.34ImperiosBut... so many of them?
16:38.48ImperiosOluapPlayer: >Resuscitate no longer requires mouth-to-mouth contact on Undead players.
16:39.20OluapPlayer>mouth to mouth with undead        >healer is a tauren
16:40.01MonetI admit I did get a vibe they were trying to appeal to political correctness.
16:40.09MonetBut then again the story -is- fantasy.
16:40.44ImperiosIt's not like full-on fantasy doe
16:40.45MonetIn the original film you had a bookstore that according to -an entire song- would have only had one customer.
16:40.49Hachiman>fantasy
16:40.57HachimanIt's historical
16:41.00Monetin the entire fricking village
16:41.02HachimanIt's a film set in a historical setting
16:41.10ImperiosAnd even then fantasy still has to maintain some veracity, remember Gods of Egypt and the Last Airbender
16:41.23MonetHAchiman: As in fairy-tale fantasy.
16:41.45HachimanImperios: inb4 modern remake of LotR with literal black elves
16:41.54MonetHonestly Gods of Egypt was a mess from the start.
16:42.02OluapPlayerso drow
16:42.10HachimanNot that literal hur
16:42.12MonetIt was basically Transformers crossed with SMITE.
16:42.16OluapPlayerUruks already fit that description
16:42.21HachimanNo I meant
16:42.41HachimanElves played by black people to appeal to progressiveness etc
16:42.46OluapPlayerI know what you mean          my point stands wink wing nudge nudge
16:42.57OluapPlayerwink even
16:43.01ImperiosHachiman: Led by Matriarch O'prah
16:43.01HachimanOh wow
16:45.53MonetI just see Gods of Egypt as a crappy myth-flick so not really bothered with casting choices.
16:46.05ImperiosIt was incredibly crappy
16:46.15ImperiosAnd it did not feel Egyptian at all, and not just because of the cast
16:46.25ImperiosThe clothes, the architecture, they all felt so oddly modern
16:46.37MonetHence why I'm not really bothered by its inaccuracies
16:46.49MonetI don't think it was trying to be.
16:47.06Tek0516Imperios: Also in some defense of the GitS movie her race and the name are justified within the movie. They just tied that justification to plot spoilers. Also even ignoring the controversy the movie earned its mixed revuews.
16:47.07ImperiosAnd that actually kinda sucked
16:47.42ImperiosTek0516: Yeah it is justified in the movie, I just say an Asian actress could be really great as well
16:48.05HachimanI refuse to watch Gods of Egypt because it promotes the idea that aliens or extraterrestrials or fucking whatever assisted the Egyptian civilization in constructing their architecture, which is then spoonfed to stupid conspiracists
16:48.36ImperiosTHE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT BY ALIENS
16:48.40Hachiman"Oh how could the Egyptians build the pyramids without 'help' :ooo"
16:48.52HachimanBY NOT BEING FUCKING STUPID YOU GODDAMN SHITTY CONSPIRACIST RETARD
16:49.06ImperiosThey were built by (((ALIENS)))
16:49.14Tek0516Hachiman: The movie even takes place on a literal flat earth if you want conspiracy.
16:49.16OluapPlayerayy lmao
16:49.27HachimanFucking WHAT
16:49.42ImperiosHachiman: http://cs.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2013-09_4/13793225108547.jpg
16:49.42MonetSO basically Gods of Egypt has absolutely zero basis in reality.
16:49.45HachimanDid Scientologists make Gods of Egypt or something
16:49.59Tek0516I think the movie's world was a big disc. One side earth the other side hell.
16:50.03OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/869/841/bbf.jpg everyone pls chill out
16:50.09MonetWell to be fair the Eyptians did predate Eritstanes.
16:50.25ImperiosI just googled for "pyramids were built by" in Russian
16:50.28ImperiosI got these:
16:50.32Imperios"Pyramids were built by aliens"
16:50.37Imperios"Pyramids were built by giants
16:50.42Imperios"Pyramids were built by Russians"
16:50.47Tek0516O.o
16:50.56OluapPlayerImp confirmed martian
16:51.36ImperiosOh and
16:51.43OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/226/654/475.gif convenient
16:51.43Imperios"Pyramids were built by Ukrainians"
16:51.52Wormy_awaystamps the SporeWiki staff of decision http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:221291#5
16:53.19OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/166/918/45c.jpg alien captured in wooden prison
16:53.27MonetOluap the clairvoyant
16:54.04Wormy_awaywhat is it with aliens and deserts
16:54.30OluapPlayerThey prefer hot over cold since they like to stand around naked
16:54.31Wormy_awaythey are probably like the easiest landscape to land on
16:54.45Wormy_awayyet they crash and burn
16:54.47MonetWormy_away: More like "what is it with aliens being the reason ancient humans could do anything"
16:55.06Tek0516Hachiman: Oh and I think the sun was a big ship or something and every night the sun god did battle with soem world eating demon or some s*** like that.
16:55.22MonetWell...
16:55.49MonetI recall in Egyptiam mythology the sun was a boat that Horus sailed across the sky every day.
16:56.08OluapPlayerhttp://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/166/687/eca.gif when no one believes you were probed until it's too late
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16:56.34TreebeardHello
16:56.39ImperiosTek0516: I think the Apophis scene was kind of cool
16:56.41Tek0516Monet: Possibly I only remember the Greek one with the chariot
16:56.45ImperiosThe mythology was adhered to quite well IMO
16:56.51ImperiosAnd it was actually kind of fun
16:57.28ImperiosAlso Hachiman may be interested: there was a 4 m tall half-Asian sex goddess in the movie
16:57.35ImperiosAs in a literal sex goddess
16:57.38ImperiosShe was playing Hathor
16:57.46OluapPlayerhttp://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/093/758/8cc.png
16:58.16ImperiosOluapPlayer: Does that mean the first English book was made by Aliens
16:58.40OluapPlayerBayywolf
16:58.58Wormy_awayoh wow
16:59.39HachimanWhat's this I hear about a sex goddess
17:00.10OluapPlayerThe dragon was Cyrannian
17:00.50ImperiosHachiman: Gods in GoE are 3-4 m tall
17:00.56ImperiosThere's a goddess of love/sex
17:01.04HachimanWas she hot?
17:01.36HachimanReminds me of Dark Souls a bit given that giants ruled over humanity as gods and whatnot with actual divine power
17:02.11OluapPlayergiants a shit where da dark at
17:02.21Hachimanfuk off praise the sun
17:10.05ImperiosHachiman: Yeah she was
17:10.18Wormy_awayUgh, something bizzare's happened
17:10.31Wormy_awayMy edit has disappeared yet it shows on the wiki activity
17:11.34Wormy_awayits back now
17:14.48HachimanImperios: show dis
17:14.52Cyrannian|busyThere are few things I hate more about university than writing journal articles
17:14.53ImperiosHachiman: http://cs.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2013-09_4/13793225108547.jpg
17:14.59ImperiosWait
17:14.59Imperiosno
17:15.03Imperioshttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/p__/images/1/11/Elodie-yung-as-hathor-gods-of-egypt.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161128185051&path-prefix=protagonist
17:15.10HachimanFucking kek]
17:15.24Hachimandat fucking tiny chest tho
17:15.53HachimanAlso what the fuck is that crown hur
17:17.49Wormy_awayCyrannian:  That's my favourite thing lol
17:18.10Wormy_awayAs long as the subject is one I have some freedom in
17:18.38Wormy_awayWhat I hate doing is making projects - and reecording / explaining what I did
17:19.38Cyrannian|busyAye, I hate group work and diaries too
17:20.42HachimanThat's the worst
17:21.20HachimanAlso where would be the ideal place for me to set up a blog for me to put down my thoughts and express them and whatnot
17:21.27MonetGroup work is meh, diaries same as writing jounrals
17:21.29HachimanI've considered Tumblr but then I stopped being drunk
17:22.17HachimanAlso how do I get popular on Twitter lmao
17:22.26OluapPlayerYou don't
17:22.50MonetI've got about 310 followers o nTwitter
17:22.54Cyrannian|busyOh yeah, I was wondering if that was you who followed me recently
17:23.09Hachiman'Twas
17:23.14OluapPlayerhao u get so many
17:23.24OluapPlayerI made YouTube videos and I only got 98
17:23.45MonetOluapPlayer: Tweeting my uni work every day and retweeting stuff I like.
17:24.09HachimanBut how can you get popular if no one follows you or retweets you
17:24.24OluapPlayerYou don't even tweet anything for others to retweet
17:24.24MonetI tend to get a lot of views when I retweet advertised job openings.
17:24.30HachimanOluapPlayer: If you wanna get popular again you should make hilarious MeeM videos again
17:24.35Cyrannian|busyYou could try tweeting about trending topics
17:24.38OluapPlayerAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
17:24.45MonetCyrannian's right
17:25.02HachimanBut only you guys follow me
17:25.05MonetIf you want to get popular, talk about what's popular.
17:25.06HachimanIt'd be only you seeing it
17:25.16MonetHachiman: Not always
17:25.45MonetAdd the right hashtags and you might get picked up by a retweetbot.
17:26.05Cyrannian|busyMost of my followers are people I know from real life, such as from school, university and work so try and look around for people you know and they'll usually follow you if you follow them
17:26.08HachimanSo should I just cram my posts with as many hashtags as possible
17:26.10OluapPlayerMy retweet content is of questionable quality
17:26.17OluapPlayerAnd I never use hashtags
17:26.26OluapPlayerguess that explains it
17:26.35MonetHashtags are like search filters.
17:26.50MonetAnd categorisation
17:26.56Hachiman#hashtag #lmao #fire #saltyasftbh
17:27.21Wormy_away#af
17:27.43MonetOh yeah you also need to balance these features
17:28.04Wormy_awaysome of those are real chatrooms
17:28.06MonetDon't fill your tweet with hastags, no one reads them because they can't read them.
17:28.22MonetAlso add pictures
17:29.02Wormy_awayAlso, don't retweet too much on twitter.  Twitter actually penilises you
17:29.02OluapPlayerAlternatively be controversial and make everyone hate you. You'll be popular, just not the way you might want
17:29.18Wormy_awayI didn't spell that right
17:29.27OluapPlayerpenis hee hee
17:29.36Hachimanha ha penis
17:29.46Wormy_awaypee hee
17:30.14Wormy_awayBut seriously, I wondered why my posts weren't ranking very high.  Too many retweets devalues your comments
17:30.42Cyrannian|busyAlso you should follow a lot of accounts that interest you, you'll often attract total randomers
17:30.54Wormy_awayI think its rather mean that Twitter isn't explicit about its inner workings.
17:31.00OluapPlayerhttps://twitter.com/NeruNox/status/827849063802470401 never gets old
17:31.12Wormy_awayI always get pornbots
17:31.59Wormy_awayEh, I'm only on Twitter to bug famous researchers until they reply to me, and I have been successful.
17:32.16Wormy_awayin this endevour
17:32.23HachimanOluapPlayer: dat twitter account
17:32.39Hachimandere some spicy nsfw on dere
17:32.52OluapPlayerbig bird let me someplace good then
17:32.55OluapPlayerled*
17:32.59Cyrannian|busyI'm on Twitter to complain about stuff
17:33.07Wormy_awayFunny you post this, I posted a posat from there last night
17:33.09Wormy_awayAnd yes
17:33.21Wormy_away*from that account
17:33.27OluapPlayerCyrannian is on twitter to talk about how much he hates taking the bus
17:33.36MonetThis also mostly works for me but I think it also helps to give your twitter account direction
17:34.11Cyrannian|busyOluapPlayer: you noticed me <3
17:34.28OluapPlayerI've been following you for months now
17:35.22Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
17:35.25OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure I follow everyone here who I'm aware has an account
17:35.34OluapPlayerExcept Monet, I didn't know he had twitter until today
17:36.06OluapPlayerSeems I wasn't following Wormy either
17:36.10MonetI've bene using Twitter for two years now lol.
17:36.42OluapPlayerlink pls
17:36.46Wormy_awayAww thanks for following
17:37.48Monethttps://twitter.com/Spacer176
17:37.55Wormy_awayI've been following you for a long time
17:38.24OluapPlayerterrifying otter snake thing
17:38.59MonetMy current project
17:39.15Monethttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7o3cJPXQAEpDY3.jpg:large have it's babby form
17:39.18ImperiosOluapPlayer Hachiman: https://cs541601.userapi.com/c635104/v635104449/dc93/24NXKu-m5RM.jpg
17:39.26OluapPlayerit's so wrinkly
17:39.35OluapPlayerDEUS VULT
17:40.03MonetI based it on mole ratties.
17:40.04Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
17:40.18OluapPlayerThat explains a lot
17:40.49Cyrannian|busyhttps://twitter.com/UltanMoran94/status/837304147087142912 - Oluap retweeted me *fangirl flail*
17:41.13Wormy_awayI also managed to get myself blocked by the MP Nicholas Soames because he made fun of autistic people
17:41.19OluapPlayerYes I agree with that sentiment
17:41.51Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
17:42.00Cyrannian|busyPlus on Friday, the bus service had a sudden strike without informing commuters. Luckily I wasn't in college that day
17:42.37Wormy_awayActually, he liked a post by HuntingSolution which made fun of autistic people, which was poor foresight.  So I made a point that MPs like him don't feel supportive
17:42.47Wormy_awayI get blocked by both
17:43.04Wormy_awayHe'd rather block me than answer for himself
17:43.10Wormy_awayA public figure
17:43.25Wormy_away<PROTECTED>
17:47.03Wormy_awaynew Elon Musk post https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/848243350993895424
17:48.53Wormy_awayRationalist communities seem anything but
17:49.19Wormy_awayThey are uncritical of their own ideas and nearly always have a personality figure
17:53.11Cyrannian|busyhur that tweet
17:55.49Cyrannian|busyYou haven't tweeted in a while Wormy
17:56.10Wormy_awayI think very carefully before I post rationalist ideas
17:56.20Wormy_awayAlso very hard to fit in 200 words
17:57.18Wormy_awayWhen I've finished a Masters I'm creating a blog to write my ideas and post my sci-vis projects, and my twitter can be a form of marketing
17:57.29Cyrannian|busyYou could tweet about everyday annoyances too, it's fun looking back at them down the line
17:57.42Wormy_awayNah, I keep to a theme
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17:59.51DrodoEmpireHey
18:02.06Tek0516Huh, I found an old throwaway line whole working on the FTC page that actually gave me writing ideas. XD
18:06.22dino82_naice
18:16.15ImperiosXho_away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiv_Sena Wait what there are Indian fascists
18:17.05Wormy_awayI think every country has fascists
18:19.20ImperiosYeah
18:19.38ImperiosThere have apparently even been Jewish fascists in Israel
18:20.12ImperiosThey wanted to ally themselves with Hitler and take in the population of Nazi concentration camps
18:23.19Wormy_awayMonet:  Scott Arronson makes a stand against login sites, in particular, journal databases http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3203
18:25.42Wormy_awayXho_Away:  Brutal https://twitter.com/Bern_Morley/status/847679050675920896
18:29.46Wormy_awayImperios:  There was supposed to be a huge Britain First march in London yesterday, but only a few turned up and most of them were elderly
18:31.06ImperiosLel
18:31.44Wormy_awayNASA built and tested nuclear powered rockets https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/848299368729919488
18:34.25Tek0516Oh, nuclear powered rockets. I though that was about that project Orion idea of whatever it was where they were powered by actual nuclear bombs. XD
18:34.58XhoWHAT'S GOOD NIGGA
18:35.25DrodoEmpireWHAT'S [B]OOD NI[B][B]A
18:35.40ImperiosWormy_away: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britain-first-english-defence-league-march-westminster-far-right-a7661561.html This?
18:35.42XhoSo I went to see Ghost in the Shell
18:36.02HachimanXho: "She can't get pregnant if she on top; that's gravity my nigga!"
18:36.04HachimanHow was it?
18:36.11XhoI'd give it a 7/10
18:36.21HachimanSo about average then
18:36.23XhoIt could have had more action
18:37.32Imperios"Kill yourself like Adolf Hitler"
18:37.33ImperiosSavage
18:37.45Wormy_awayYes
18:38.23ImperiosWormy_away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDmVABJwfkk Weird how they claim to be allies with Poland while Poles are subject to racist attacks in the UK
18:39.53Wormy_awayyeah
18:39.56XhoHachiman: I've established that Skar's name is Hekrax QQQQQQQQQ
18:40.07HachimanEh?
18:40.11Wormy_awayThe extremes are always contradictory
18:40.35OluapPlayerQrayrloc is a weird word
18:40.38Wormy_awayImperios:  Some youths nearly beat to death a refugee child in Croydon recently
18:40.41HachimanOh right
18:41.11Wormy_awayup to 20 watched http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39470487
18:41.53OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT4rgTZ5GwA
18:44.02XhoThis arouses me in a strange manner
18:47.17MonetWormy_away: "We are firm allies with the Poles, we just don't want them in our country"
18:47.20XhoThat being said Ghost in the Shell has inspired me to try and rehash the Kicath a bit
18:47.31XhoIt was Japanese neon cyberpunk without the aliens
18:47.48XhoAnd Scarlett Johansson instead
18:48.43XhoThe main idea that Agents might have their memories wiped when they're made
18:48.55Wormy_awayThe fascist ideal there might be that everyone lives in their lands and supports each other's alienation
18:49.16HachimanWouldn't that oppose with the heavy clan-based nature of their society
18:49.25XhoCertain clans are more affluent than others
18:49.42XhoStronger houses might be able to dissuade that process
18:50.46Wormy_awayrekt https://twitter.com/mpshanahan/status/846663567705341952
18:51.33XhoAlthough tbf the Kicath are a sharp mess so I'll likely never touch them again
18:51.36MonetXho: It could make sense
18:51.56MonetFro mwhat you already have the Agents already forego their previous identities.
18:52.12XhoI could potentially rehash their entire history and that might fix them
18:55.25MonetWell, what makes them so messy
18:59.39MonetBut yes, if you think that might fix them then there's no real harm.
19:07.12Xhobah
19:07.16XhoAnyway I'm hungry so brb
19:15.41HachimanGhelae: If you somehow managed to make contact with a version of yourself residing in a neighbouring universe that just so happens to be of the opposing sex and gender, would reproducing with with them result in an unhealthy child
19:17.16Hachiman-with
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19:22.29DrodoEmpireHi
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19:43.08Wormy_awayIts a good question Hachi
19:47.15AtsyBoi~demolish ice
19:50.17Wormy_awayMight be insightful  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_relationship#Human_relationships
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19:56.46Wormy_awayIm sorry, I had to look this one up
19:57.19Wormy_awayBecause only one pair of chromosomes is past on, two clones producing a clone will only pass them on half the time
19:57.26Wormy_away100%
19:57.34HachimanHuh
19:59.33Wormy_awaySo, one genotype is a complete clone, the other would be like full siblings or parent-offspring, and certainly recessive / deleterious genes would become more expressive
19:59.47Wormy_awayI don't know whether they'd become more expressive in a complete clone
20:00.15HachimanSo, would the baby between the base universe version of yourself and your alternate universe self also be effectively a clone?
20:00.16Wormy_away*anymore
20:01.25Wormy_awayIt would be in one case of the possibilities
20:04.01OluapPlayerwhat a weird thing to think about
20:04.10OluapPlayerIt's like the hardest masturbation ever
20:05.02HachimanHardest in what sense
20:05.17Wormy_awayThe human genome is diploid (46 chromosomes), so you share one pair of chromosomes from each parent (23).  For just one chromosome to match, only half the time you are likel to match them exactly because there are other genotypes
20:05.59Wormy_awayNow the possibilies of a complete cloning of the human genocome are very small
20:06.15Wormy_awayBut this is the multiverse we are talking about, some one the offspring will be a clone
20:09.53Wormy_away"would reproducing with with them result in an unhealthy child" ... I guess a better way of saying it, is that would be more likely to
20:11.32OluapPlayerHardest in difficulty
20:12.19OluapPlayerYou're going to an alternate universe just so you can have sex with yourself
20:12.21OluapPlayertalk about introvert
20:13.13OluapPlayersays a lot bout u m8
20:15.12Hachiman;-;
20:16.54MonetBut wouldn't getting your other universal twin require convincing/seducing them?
20:18.01MonetOnly difference is you already know everything about your date.
20:18.04Monet...or do you?
20:20.16HachimanHm
20:21.08Wormy_awayI had Madagascan pink wing stick insects for 11 years, they are notable for the females cloning themselves in captivity, and males being extremely rare
20:21.19HachimanWait what
20:21.24HachimanThey can clone themselves?
20:21.27Wormy_awayAfter about 9 years or so I started to notice mutations
20:21.34Wormy_awayYes
20:22.38Wormy_awaySome would grow one wing, others would fail to shed skin properly, others sprouted two legs where there should have been one, and they lived shorter and shorter lifespans
20:23.33Wormy_awayI suspect it was inbreeding depression
20:23.43ImperiosHachiman Wormy_away: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPIggNLWoAAXw3J.png
20:23.58AtsyBoibeep beep lettuce
20:24.19ImperiosHachiman: Actually
20:24.22Wormy_awaydeep
20:24.24ImperiosFemale you would be attractive
20:24.34ImperiosTiny cute lady with long curly hair
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20:24.43HachimanJesus Wormy that sounds fucking horrifying
20:24.51HachimanImperios: Probably
20:25.00HachimanShe'd look like a hobo waifu
20:25.05Wormy_awayhorrifyingly sad
20:26.04ImperiosI just realised that the girl I am dating rn kind of looks like the female you
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20:27.42Wormy_awayhi
20:27.48Liquid_InkHello
20:28.29Wormy_awayI still have dreams about finding them on my wall, crawling on my neck (that happened sometimes when they escaped), or even growing to giant size or great numbers in the vivarium
20:28.41HachimanImperios: I dunno whether that's a complement to me or an insult to her
20:28.56Imperiosboth
20:29.31GhelaeHachiman: If you have any recessive genes which are bad for you, and your offspring receives one from you and another from opposite-you, then that will be bad.
20:29.34HachimanWormy_away: Are you stricken with the guilt that you observed those pitiful creatures mutate and degenerate over time into a state where suffering and living were indistinguishable from one another
20:29.53Wormy_awayI am
20:30.02ImperiosYes fucking your alternate self would be incest
20:30.09Wormy_awayI also got fed up of them after 8-10 years
20:30.10ImperiosHm
20:30.14ImperiosWhat would the female me be like
20:30.16GhelaeIt won't necessarily be the case but, as with all incest, it increases the chances of something going wrong.
20:30.24AtsyBoiWhere's the tier guide?
20:31.05Wormy_awayHachi:  I used to dream of setting them free in the garden, and never did so.  The last generation I didn't look after very well, and just weren't healthy from the start
20:31.26HachimanSo, did you let them die?
20:31.27Wormy_awayso yeah, guilt
20:32.02Wormy_awayI dunno what killed them in the end, I still fed and watered them
20:35.22GhelaeAtsyBoi: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Types_of_civilisation
20:36.15AtsyBoiThanks
20:36.20Wormy_awayThere's a downsized version on the forums
20:45.02ImperiosHachiman: Apparently "Harkonen" is a Finnish rusname
20:45.03Imperiossurname
20:46.21HachimanHuh
20:46.27HachimanSounds more German to me
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20:50.36MethanogenHello
20:50.48Wormy_awayhi
20:51.05MethanogenHow are you going?
20:51.34GhelaeHello.
20:52.13MethanogenHi Ghelae
20:53.03HachimanHi Meth
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21:02.51AtsyBoican i have the tier guide again please? i switched computers
21:06.42DrodoEmpire<PROTECTED>
21:07.47AtsyBoiThanks
21:09.05DrodoEmpireNo problem
21:18.39ImperiosWormy_away Monet Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/1bHoqgr.jpg
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21:28.37MonetImperios: lol
21:34.35Wormy_awayhah hah
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22:16.46infobot[test] not funny
22:35.41XhoWHAT'S GOOD NIGGA
22:35.51XhoWow dead irc
22:44.28MonetQuiet ik
22:54.53XhoMonet: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16991626_1452869678096642_7992609254175005789_o.jpg?oh=2037aec68fc652e7139c80d6ad4e4545&oe=594D9218
22:55.01XhoIf you've played New Vegas I can't remember
23:01.46MonetI have
23:01.49MonetA little bit
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