00:00.04 | Cyrannian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellard - I had no idea the characters had such in depth backstories |
00:00.45 | Wormy_ | Bloody Bianca giving Wellard chocolate |
00:01.17 | Wormy_ | Bianca is notable for shoting the place down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR2M5Uc-dR8 |
00:03.36 | Monet | Nice pair of lungs that one. |
00:08.24 | Cyrannian | nightie night |
00:09.08 | Wormy_ | Funny how the audo file is still vandalised https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France |
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00:24.29 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
01:17.44 | Tek0516 | So they released the Stellaris 1.5 patch notes |
01:21.50 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
01:22.00 | DrodoEmpire | How bad did they fuck it up? <.< |
02:35.57 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire, Tek0516: Student lands in Sydney, Canada instead of Sydney, Australia http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39459471 |
02:36.26 | DrodoEmpire | hoh |
02:36.34 | DrodoEmpire | Its a nice town, Sydney |
02:36.38 | DrodoEmpire | He'll do fine |
02:37.00 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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02:52.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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06:15.46 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: So it was Lustria after all |
06:16.38 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
06:20.59 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
06:21.48 | Liquid_Ink | How are you? |
06:43.02 | ImpyDroid | alright |
06:55.05 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: I go check out the new Planet of the Apes trailer and the comment section is littered with racist jokes |
06:55.14 | ImpyDroid | Internet, not even once |
06:55.20 | Liquid_Ink | Oh dear |
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08:07.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
08:07.23 | Hachiman | Hi |
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08:34.43 | Methanogen | Hello |
08:39.12 | Hachiman | Hi |
08:39.59 | Hachiman | How are you? |
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10:28.54 | Methanogen | Hello |
10:30.10 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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10:31.54 | Methanogen | Hi there |
10:31.57 | Methanogen | Going well? |
10:32.15 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
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10:32.26 | NeonPanda | hi all |
10:32.36 | Methanogen | I'm good, beginning to establish the foundation of a fiction |
10:32.41 | Methanogen | Hi there |
10:32.58 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:34.07 | Methanogen | Meanwhile I'm considering also working on random stuff to improve my writing skills while waiting for inspiration for history |
10:34.39 | Methanogen | And trying my hardest not to get sidetracked with random ideas of aliens of varying degrees of sensibility |
10:36.47 | Ghelae | Really. You have enough history. Stop worrying about it. |
10:37.14 | Methanogen | True, I'll try to |
10:56.01 | Methanogen | Gtg |
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11:32.26 | Imperios | Ghelae: Wow, Ghel, did you just show emotion? |
11:32.35 | Imperios | >Really. You have enough history. Stop worrying about it. |
11:32.53 | Imperios | That... that was actually a show of negative emotion from you |
11:34.19 | Liquid_Ink | You could interpret that as concern rather than exasperation. |
11:35.01 | Ghelae | You will never know the truth. |
11:35.35 | Liquid_Ink | Ghel also shows facetiousness quite a lot. |
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11:44.48 | Monet_2 | Hallo |
11:45.38 | Hachiman | Hi |
11:46.51 | Ghelae | Hi |
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11:54.28 | Wormy_ | hi |
11:56.58 | Wormy_ | Spain and the United Kingdom declare war over Gibraltar! |
12:03.57 | Monet | Flamebait at down |
12:04.56 | Wormy_ | April fools, I guess |
12:05.38 | Wormy_ | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8UBvENWsAE1DRc.jpg |
12:06.38 | Wormy_ | I like the polar bear stranded on Scottish island one https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2017/apr/01/fake-news-the-best-and-worst-april-fools-day-stories |
12:09.01 | Liquid_Ink | MY HORSE FRIEND ON TUMBLR DIED |
12:10.15 | Wormy_ | Is it a bird, is it a plane? Virgin Atlantic harnesses âflapenergyâ with new Dreambird 1417 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ob-5eC8uw |
12:10.25 | Monet | "the makers of Britainâs most love-it-or-hate-it spread announce the launch of Meh-Mite â a blander version of the yeasty toast-topper" lol |
12:11.46 | Wormy_ | Liquid: I guess you must look horse about it |
12:12.21 | Monet | Wormy_: "In typical Virgin fashion we just went ahead and invented it" |
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12:12.43 | Jepardi | Hi |
12:12.47 | Wormy_ | lol |
12:14.37 | Wormy_ | 10 potentially real stories http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39452788 |
12:14.58 | Monet | The thing abotu the Daily Mail's article is...have they done anything special? |
12:15.15 | Monet | It seems about as outrageous and eye-catching as anything else they write. |
12:16.36 | Wormy_ | it also looks more real than the others |
12:17.15 | Monet | I dunno I'd love to see a seasonal line produced by George Osborne. |
12:17.41 | Monet | I've heard rumours one of his ideas is a barrel with straps on the top half. |
12:18.07 | Monet | With a white tank-top to accentuate the features of the shoulder. |
12:28.41 | Wormy_ | Explorer http://mydailyquizz.com/which-carl-jung-archetype-best-describes-you/ |
12:30.34 | Monet | I did something like this not too long ago |
12:31.10 | Monet | I did the Meyers-Briggs test not too long ago. |
12:32.13 | Monet | OluapPLayer Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foFKXS6Nyho new ASDF movie |
12:32.41 | OluapPlayer | Wow it's been a while |
12:35.58 | Wormy_ | I got 6 right http://mydailyquizz.com/how-english-are-you/ |
12:36.12 | Wormy_ | I bet Imperios and Liquid_Ink would score well |
12:37.29 | Wormy_ | Its wrong qabout mountains |
12:37.45 | Wormy_ | Most define it a mountain as being over 1000 feet, or 300 metres |
12:39.24 | Wormy_ | Plenty of people die scaling English peaks in poor weather |
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12:46.49 | Monet | OluapPLayer: This instalment feels bloodier than before. |
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12:57.27 | Xho | Afternoon |
12:57.31 | Xho | Man my eye is killing me |
12:59.27 | Ghelae | Hello. |
13:16.22 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/zZ1oA |
13:19.46 | Wormy_ | AndroImp: http://imgur.com/gallery/kN447 |
13:21.12 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/obsDY |
13:21.29 | Monet | Xho: I left a message as Arsac. |
13:22.41 | Xho | cool |
13:23.56 | Wormy_ | ""hat just happened?" "Globalisation" |
13:26.26 | Xho | Monet: SHU VULT |
13:30.24 | Monet | New idea I guess |
13:31.10 | Monet | Krath's forces raid/besiege a world, Dark Inqiusition go around rounding up everyone for sacrifice. |
13:32.13 | Xho | Sounds good |
13:39.22 | Wormy_ | postman throws package into a toilet through the window http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-39458595 |
13:51.35 | Xho | OluapPlayer Imperios: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a2/Julianus2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170401134826 Julianus Post-Eschaton |
13:53.14 | OluapPlayer | big evil man |
13:57.50 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I'm updating Julianus' page so I will be mentioning Karnagtah's Legion |
13:58.29 | OluapPlayer | Okay |
14:11.43 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Julianus angry elf kills people |
14:12.51 | Xho | "SOUNDS LIKE SOM STOOPID CAR BRAND TBH" >tfw Maknagrius is a Dodge Viper |
14:13.20 | OluapPlayer | wew |
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14:28.27 | Xho | acj |
14:28.30 | Hachiman | Hi |
14:28.49 | Hachiman | Benefit of France / Europe; real leather products are cheaper than I imagined than in the UK |
14:28.55 | Hachiman | And are also meticulously made by hand |
14:28.56 | Wormy_away | hello LotG |
14:29.14 | Hachiman | Hello Wormulon |
14:29.28 | Wormy_away | I'm surprised, I found Spain expensive meself |
14:30.25 | Hachiman | Depends where you go |
14:30.29 | Hachiman | I suppose |
14:31.01 | Wormy_away | It *was* Seville |
14:32.51 | Wormy_away | They were very Sevillised |
14:33.19 | Hachiman | I found a genuine leather bracelet in an old leatherworks shop in Collonges-la-Rouge in Corrèze for about â¬20 |
14:33.48 | Hachiman | I also got a pair of secondhand leather jackets for â¬10 each in a charity event because my step-grandmother was participating in running it |
14:34.35 | Monet | 10 for a leather jacket's a pretty good deal |
14:35.09 | Hachiman | Incidentally I never found a *genuine* leather jacket in the UK that went that low, even secondhand |
14:35.17 | Hachiman | That wasn't excessively old or damage |
14:39.17 | Technobliterator | we probably need to archive the UDB |
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14:42.42 | Wormy_ | 1 megabyte a minute atm jebus |
14:42.51 | Wormy_ | *kilobyte |
14:43.10 | Wormy_ | Can't wait to get fibre optic |
14:44.30 | Xho | lel |
14:44.46 | Xho | Hachiman Imperios OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Adravelic_Empire *Julianus' longest yeah boi ever* |
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14:45.00 | Xho | Whoops I didn't change the quote |
14:45.03 | Wormy_ | Thi |
14:45.17 | Xho | I took the box from Karnagtah's page because I was reading it and then I didn't change it |
14:45.22 | OluapPlayer | big evil men |
14:45.26 | Wormy_ | Tek: I just read the TRAPPIST 1 system was put in Elite |
14:45.26 | OluapPlayer | dingus |
14:46.05 | Xho | F5 then |
14:46.15 | OluapPlayer | empty page/10 |
14:54.44 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Yeah, I think I heard they were adding it |
14:55.19 | Tek0516 | Today is the one day you literally cannot trust anything on the internet. >.> |
14:55.44 | Wormy_ | lol |
14:58.01 | Xho | OluapPlayer: How many of Karnagtah's Legion would you say went with Julianus to Abyssus |
14:58.18 | OluapPlayer | A small band |
14:58.49 | OluapPlayer | A thousand Gros at most |
14:59.29 | Xho | k den |
15:02.30 | Xho | So by that logic Julianus used 91,000 soldiers to fuck Abyssus up |
15:02.32 | Xho | Pretty good going |
15:02.50 | Xho | Although it multiplied after each city he took |
15:03.06 | Xho | By five cities he'd have an army of 451,000 |
15:03.35 | Xho | By twenty, 1,801,000 |
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15:07.33 | Wormy_ | hi |
15:07.38 | drom | April Fools day today. |
15:08.27 | Xho | fuk u m7 |
15:08.52 | drom | Is your presence an April fools joke, m8 |
15:09.50 | Xho | ouch |
15:10.03 | Wormy_ | Doesnt feel any different in the year of fake news |
15:10.31 | drom | Little disappointed about today's spirit |
15:10.55 | drom | I mean, I was prepared to make an edit to make the wiki use comic sans |
15:12.05 | drom | Either the way, have an old gold. Xho Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/RmFNP1O.gifv |
15:12.16 | Xho | foox |
15:13.03 | drom | And I am sure I didn't share this one here http://i.imgur.com/x9N0mNR.jpg |
15:13.24 | Wormy_ | In 2008 or 2009 Morgoth made the SporeWiki skin pink to attract more female users. When users complained, he made it grey. |
15:13.52 | Wormy_ | on April Fools |
15:14.24 | drom | I am certain this place could use more users from the young audience |
15:14.37 | drom | We use the Jokerman font |
15:14.50 | Wormy_ | plzno |
15:16.00 | drom | Or change our theme to a mock-off of Pornhub's theme |
15:16.02 | drom | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/932/918/2a7.png |
15:16.19 | drom | If we want to attract more users from the adult audience |
15:16.40 | Wormy_ | > Have The FBI Stolen Your Face? | 10 News Stories You Missed > Aptil 1st >Don't trust it |
15:17.07 | OluapPlayer | I think you'd probably notice not having your face |
15:17.09 | Xho | spornhub when |
15:18.06 | Wormy_ | Sporepedia: porn district |
15:18.09 | drom | Ask Hachiman and Imperios, Xho. |
15:18.19 | drom | Say the word and they'll know what to do |
15:18.34 | Xho | oh hell |
15:18.43 | Hachiman | Believe me |
15:18.46 | Hachiman | You don't wanna know |
15:19.07 | Hachiman | Also, obligatory "mfw I have no face" |
15:19.23 | Wormy_ | but I Must Eat Icecream |
15:21.01 | drom | mfw I've no face http://wallpapercave.com/wp/ty5UMcN.png |
15:25.16 | Xho | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/913/002/377.jpg mfw |
15:36.46 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Who would be the leading Gros in Abyssus that deals with Julianus |
15:37.18 | Hachiman | There are Gros in Abyssus? |
15:37.43 | Xho | yup |
15:38.03 | Xho | The story goes that Julianus manages to make it back to Abyssus with the aid of Karnagtah's Legion |
15:38.08 | Xho | In return the Legion got 150,000 slaves |
15:38.29 | Xho | As well as a city |
15:38.38 | Xho | The 150,000 slaves being the city's inhabitants |
15:40.05 | Xho | Hachiman: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a2/Julianus2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170401134826 Also I remade Julianus |
15:40.53 | Hachiman | Nice |
15:51.58 | OluapPlayer | I'll have to come up with something |
15:53.03 | OluapPlayer | Taskmaster Belzurtar |
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15:54.00 | Treebeard | Hello |
15:54.02 | Xho | Hi |
15:54.04 | Hachiman | Hi Tree |
16:13.14 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:New_Adravelic_Empire complete page/10 |
16:17.21 | Xho | Wow I spelled the name of the article wrong |
16:17.25 | Xho | Changed it |
16:18.02 | OluapPlayer | dum level: significant |
16:18.11 | Hachiman | "Despite this, multiple underground movements have gone unnoticed - primarily a revival in the religion of Caligaduro Provectus, as well as the ancient religion of the Orichalcum Elves that worshipped Soldalatel and Nalashtannylor." |
16:18.25 | Hachiman | >Sun-worshipping Shiarchon |
16:19.00 | Xho | Soldalatel - nani |
16:19.10 | Hachiman | Also interesting that Shiarchon can no longer use void magic |
16:19.32 | Hachiman | Very nice work |
16:20.13 | Xho | quote damn thee |
16:21.07 | OluapPlayer | >Simulacra such as Mortium and Zran Kar |
16:21.13 | OluapPlayer | worship the gods who hate you |
16:21.27 | Xho | Shiarchon - hey caligaduro was a jerk |
16:22.14 | Xho | Mind you the Adravaelic Ascendancy actively worshipps Isiris and Nalashtannylor |
16:22.18 | Xho | Mainly because Arcturus is smart |
16:25.10 | Wormy_away | Hachiman, drom, Tek0516, Ghelaway: Beware the Helvetica scenario resulting from a calcium collapse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqfSqUuo7Ms |
16:26.39 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: hao bout u neva edit conflict me agen u fukn chimpanzee sunovabitch |
16:26.51 | OluapPlayer | hao bout u finish paegs |
16:27.09 | Hachiman | hao bout u finish war |
16:27.14 | Hachiman | Also quoted |
16:27.47 | OluapPlayer | no.jpg |
16:28.19 | Hachiman | yes.waterpaints |
16:28.49 | OluapPlayer | oluap moves at his own pace |
16:28.54 | OluapPlayer | which is to say much faster than you |
16:29.03 | Hachiman | H-HE'S FAST |
16:29.09 | OluapPlayer | nani the fuck |
16:47.08 | Monet | Might write some fiction |
16:49.27 | Hachiman | Why do that when you can be lazy like me |
16:49.31 | Hachiman | And just overthink ideas |
16:50.30 | Monet | Because the stuff in my head has been swimming their for at least a week. |
17:18.45 | Tek0516 | I'm giving the Farengeto page some updates. |
17:19.37 | Tek0516 | I'll need to sort out the political divisions in its increasingly complex bureaucratic structure. XD |
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17:41.12 | AtsyBoi | Hi |
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17:43.18 | AtsyBoi | whalecome to your doom |
17:45.14 | Monet | Hi |
17:45.33 | Xho | Hi |
17:45.58 | Wormy_away | AtsyBoi: Have some science https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqfSqUuo7Ms |
17:47.12 | AtsyBoi | my youtube is blocked, so i have to use offliberty to download the shit |
17:47.18 | AtsyBoi | ~hate that |
17:47.18 | infobot | Hey atsyboi, ,,|, |
17:47.35 | AtsyBoi | FUUUUUUU |
17:47.49 | Tek0516 | Wormy_away: Did that clip break after the first minute or the uploader trying to be edgy or something? >.> |
17:48.15 | Wormy_away | That's literally part of the clip, but the user looped it |
17:48.40 | Wormy_away | Tek: Whole episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4CRCJUmWsM |
17:49.18 | AtsyBoi | so, in a nutshell, what is it? |
17:49.21 | Tek0516 | I'm out of the house and already over my data limit. :P |
17:49.50 | Wormy_away | The dangers of the Helvetica Scenario |
17:50.21 | Wormy_away | What happens when the calcium molecule wonders outside its electron shell and collapses, causing skin growth over the entire face |
17:50.22 | AtsyBoi | ok |
17:51.57 | Tek0516 | In case you're not sure the science is intentionally bs. :P |
17:59.33 | drom | Imperios: A friend to me just complained to me that I play too much WoW |
17:59.40 | drom | He plays FF14 |
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18:06.38 | LaggyBoi | hold on, let me test ib |
18:06.40 | LaggyBoi | ~nope |
18:06.40 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, nope is http://i.imgur.com/Z7Gpf.gif |
18:06.44 | LaggyBoi | ok |
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18:09.30 | dino82_ | hi |
18:14.49 | drom | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNOllWX-2aE |
18:19.32 | AtsyBoi | HOLY FUCKING SHIT THESE FUCKING POPUPS ARE BLOCKING MY FUCKING VIEW OF SPACE ENGINE |
18:19.51 | AtsyBoi | FINALLY THEYRE GONE |
18:20.47 | AtsyBoi | FFS |
18:21.40 | AtsyBoi | AND NOW SPACE ENGINE ISNT STARTING UP |
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18:24.06 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Third_House_War#The_Great_Game and chapter is done. |
18:24.09 | Imperios | Xho: Hi |
18:24.13 | Imperios | Nice work on these new adra guys |
18:24.34 | Imperios | Are there any major differences between the old Shias and these fellas? |
18:24.41 | Xho | ohi |
18:24.50 | Xho | In what way |
18:24.53 | Xho | Culturally? |
18:25.03 | Xho | Monet: Read in a sec |
18:25.11 | AtsyBoi | Sorry about raging there |
18:25.43 | AtsyBoi | I have autism, so... |
18:26.29 | Xho | Nearly everyone here has tbf |
18:26.29 | Imperios | Yeah |
18:26.33 | Imperios | AtsyBoi: Welcome to the club |
18:26.37 | Xho | Well culturally speaking |
18:26.50 | AtsyBoi | Tbf? |
18:26.56 | Xho | to be fair |
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18:27.36 | Xho | Culturally speaking the NAE is officially aetheistic as well as a dictatorship in comparison to a more democratic government Kalarah had |
18:27.37 | AtsyBoi | ah |
18:27.38 | Worny_ | was chillin' on backup http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat |
18:27.51 | Xho | Kalarah was evil but he was politically savvy |
18:27.51 | Worny_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:221273 |
18:27.53 | Imperios | Xho: So the North Korea to Legion's USSR? |
18:27.58 | Xho | Pretty much |
18:28.10 | Xho | Julianus is our grorious reader |
18:28.28 | Imperios | There quoted |
18:30.16 | Xho | Julianus - shup |
18:30.24 | AtsyBoi | please don't mention nk |
18:30.46 | Imperios | AtsyBoi: Why though? |
18:30.50 | AtsyBoi | the human rights are barely existent |
18:30.58 | AtsyBoi | it's horrific |
18:31.30 | AtsyBoi | it stress me in real life |
18:31.34 | AtsyBoi | stresses* |
18:31.37 | Imperios | Well guess what, my ancestors are from there |
18:31.41 | Imperios | Most of them |
18:31.59 | Xho | Imperios is the wiki's grorious reader |
18:32.02 | AtsyBoi | Yeah, I don't hate /them/ |
18:32.12 | Monet | Born in Russia but is a Korean descendant. |
18:32.12 | Imperios | I too feel for the people of North Korea |
18:32.23 | AtsyBoi | It's KJU |
18:32.24 | Imperios | But that does not mean I can't bring it up |
18:32.31 | AtsyBoi | And the laws are just bullshit |
18:32.33 | Imperios | KJU is actually improving things |
18:32.44 | Imperios | There are actually people with smartphones in North Korea now |
18:32.45 | AtsyBoi | I'm not saying you cant' |
18:32.48 | AtsyBoi | Oh |
18:33.20 | AtsyBoi | Though, they probably have propaganda viruses installed on them, if they're as bad as I see NK |
18:33.22 | Imperios | Also, as bad as North Korea is, the South also has a pretty bad human rights record, as do many places in the world |
18:33.31 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios can and will talk about what he wishes, Atsy. :p |
18:33.32 | DrodoEmpire | Don |
18:33.43 | AtsyBoi | Yeah, just NK is worse than others |
18:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | *Don't try and dictate that sorta thing to people, you have no right |
18:33.56 | Imperios | Yeah but there are many more |
18:33.59 | Monet | Tried that once, got told off. |
18:34.08 | AtsyBoi | I'm not, I was /asking/ |
18:34.10 | DrodoEmpire | Obviously NK has a worse human rights record |
18:34.44 | DrodoEmpire | Same goes for asking in 90% of instances. Its rude and in this case, silly :p |
18:34.50 | Monet | "don't mention nk" even with a 'please' kind-f sounds like a demand. |
18:35.02 | Imperios | Don't worry about the people of North Korea, they are just victims of a war they did not want and one day prosperity will come to them |
18:35.06 | Imperios | Reunification will ensue |
18:35.23 | AtsyBoi | I hope so |
18:35.37 | AtsyBoi | No offense |
18:35.45 | Imperios | I've read some stuff about the situation there |
18:36.05 | Imperios | There's a middle class developingh |
18:36.12 | Imperios | And capitalist policies are slowly introduced |
18:36.32 | Worny_ | aye |
18:36.43 | Worny_ | Its all very state managed though |
18:36.49 | Imperios | Right now the main problem with improving North Korea is that, if civil liberties are introduced, the country will literally tear itself apart |
18:37.06 | DrodoEmpire | It needs to be gradual reformation yes |
18:37.10 | AtsyBoi | Just US-level? |
18:37.33 | Imperios | The people will realise the horrible conditions they are in and tear down the institutions, and then wreck the economy of South Korea and China through a refugee crisis |
18:37.35 | Worny_ | I fear that if NK collapses, China will invade because they won't want a refugee crisos or a Western-backed Korea |
18:37.46 | AtsyBoi | Honestly, I just want everyone to get along |
18:37.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yes and who doesn't :p |
18:38.01 | Imperios | And, chances are, they will either become the CPC's slaves in China, or corporate slaves in South Korea |
18:38.10 | AtsyBoi | *tears up in real life* |
18:38.15 | AtsyBoi | Can we divert the topic |
18:38.22 | Imperios | So, just giving them more freedom will not help them |
18:38.31 | Worny_ | I'd love it if humanity poured more money into scientific and engineering projects |
18:38.44 | Worny_ | but that's idealism |
18:39.01 | Imperios | What will help them is gradually improving their economy in the current regime, and then once their economy is improved |
18:39.17 | AtsyBoi | Taking out the HRAs? |
18:39.18 | Imperios | They can more gradually move towards civil liberites |
18:39.35 | Imperios | This will in turn allow for reunification! |
18:39.43 | DrodoEmpire | Instead of avoiding topics that upset you to an irrational degree AtsyBoi, why not grow a bit emotionally stronger as a person and, if these issues are of such concern to you, read about them and process them in a reasonably principled and detached way |
18:39.43 | Imperios | And this reunification will be more or less on even terms |
18:39.44 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
18:39.50 | Monet | In real life getting rid of the bad leaders rarely works out well. |
18:39.59 | Imperios | Yep, Atsy, it will help you grow as a person |
18:40.03 | AtsyBoi | Ok |
18:40.16 | DrodoEmpire | One thing people constantly say is that avoidance isn't a solution >.< |
18:40.30 | Imperios | So once North Korea will have businessmen and industries that can compare with those of the South |
18:40.34 | Imperios | And that is completely possible |
18:40.38 | Wormy_ | Yeah, anxiety is only made stronger by avoidance |
18:40.43 | Imperios | They can integreate themselves into Southern economy. |
18:40.55 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: That's the long term plan, yeah |
18:40.56 | Imperios | And then with the South's influence, civil rights and liberties will be improved there |
18:40.57 | Imperios | Boom |
18:41.12 | Imperios | TONGHAE MULGWA PAEKTUSANIIIIIIIIIIIIII |
18:41.19 | AtsyBoi | WTF XD |
18:41.29 | Imperios | That's the South Korean anthem |
18:41.32 | AtsyBoi | laughs irl |
18:41.33 | AtsyBoi | Ah |
18:41.49 | Imperios | MAREUGO DALTOROK |
18:41.53 | DrodoEmpire | You have a ((((((((((((((((((((Reunified Democratic Korean Government)))))))))))))))))))) |
18:42.23 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Ruled by a (((Democratically Elected Government))) |
18:42.45 | AtsyBoi | New Meme: ((((((((((Text)))))))))) |
18:42.50 | Wormy_ | I have a lot of sadness for Syria |
18:42.50 | DrodoEmpire | Rule for Koreans, by ((((((((Koreans)))))))) |
18:42.58 | AtsyBoi | Same |
18:42.58 | Monet | We're all happy to discuss these things. |
18:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | AtsyBoi: Oh dear no |
18:43.07 | DrodoEmpire | This is quite the meme |
18:43.10 | DrodoEmpire | handle with cautiou |
18:43.12 | DrodoEmpire | *ion |
18:43.23 | AtsyBoi | (((((((((((((((Cautio))))))))))))))) |
18:43.26 | Imperios | AtsyBoi: "As long as the waters of the Sea of Japan and the mountain of Paektusan stand, God will protect our nation" |
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18:44.28 | Hachiman | Xho: You can bet Hathgar is gonna want to march dwarves onto Abyssus now kek |
18:44.29 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Oh you just reminded me |
18:44.36 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
18:45.01 | Imperios | http://coub.com/view/t2uyi I made this |
18:45.03 | Xho | Julianus - silly shortbread man how can u march into Abyssus wen were marching into the greatholds |
18:45.06 | AtsyBoi | Hey, everyone, what's your primary empire? |
18:45.13 | AtsyBoi | Quickly |
18:45.14 | AtsyBoi | :P |
18:45.25 | Hachiman | Hathgar - cus wen ur marchin on da greatholds whose at home protectin ur abyssus |
18:45.28 | Imperios | Hachiman may also take a look |
18:45.28 | Xho | xhodocto |
18:45.38 | Hachiman | Hathgar - well bugger dat laddeh |
18:45.39 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Third_House_War#The_Great_Game Hachiman Imperios DrodoEmpire dino82 |
18:45.48 | Monet | dino82_ |
18:45.51 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: HEIL KEK |
18:46.03 | Hachiman | I'll read in a bit |
18:46.08 | Hachiman | A lil busy doing D&D stoof |
18:46.10 | Imperios | SotKEK, the greatest of the Old Ones |
18:46.12 | AtsyBoi | *cough cough, waiting for Monet, Imperios and Wormy* |
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18:46.28 | Treebeard | Hello |
18:46.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: Little did we know that Slann actually wielded meme magic |
18:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
18:46.44 | Imperios | Actually wait |
18:46.53 | dino82_ | going to read i t monet |
18:46.55 | Imperios | Lizardmen are magic Aztecs |
18:46.56 | Hachiman | Now I can see why Oluap isn't here |
18:47.27 | Monet | I thought he disconnected with you. |
18:47.36 | Imperios | Does that mean they are bringing drugs, crime, and are rapists |
18:47.55 | Hachiman | >crime |
18:48.03 | Hachiman | Aztecs weren't criminals u |
18:48.16 | Wormy_ | We had downtime on Freenode |
18:48.17 | Hachiman | Oh wait you mean Mexicans |
18:48.24 | Monet | AtsyBoi: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Draconid_Imperium here's something for your afternoon. |
18:48.26 | Imperios | Yeah |
18:48.30 | DrodoEmpire | I don't bring drugs, crime, or rapists-- I am a simple meme farmer |
18:48.34 | AtsyBoi | that's yours? |
18:48.39 | Hachiman | >Mexican Lizardmen gangs |
18:48.40 | Imperios | Naggaroth needs to build a wall from Lustria |
18:48.47 | Monet | Atsyboi:I had a lot of help. |
18:48.51 | AtsyBoi | Ah |
18:48.56 | DrodoEmpire | tending to my memes, sacrificing many chicken tendies to Kek and his prophets |
18:49.05 | Hachiman | Imperios: Does this mean Morgana or whatever her face is is Clinton |
18:49.12 | Imperios | Hachiman: Morathi? |
18:49.13 | Monet | But in terms of ownership and primary activity...yeah its mine. |
18:49.15 | Hachiman | Morathi yes |
18:49.23 | Imperios | She is an evil witch so yes |
18:49.39 | Imperios | So yeah on one hand Slann are certainly blessed by Kek |
18:49.44 | Imperios | On the other hand they are Mexican |
18:49.45 | Monet | Except Morgana had black hair. |
18:49.56 | Monet | Also she was sexy as fuk |
18:50.14 | Imperios | Malekith did not have sexual relationships with this woman |
18:50.18 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: B R O T H E R D O Y O U H A V E S O M E M E M E S |
18:50.24 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
18:50.31 | Wormy_ | meems |
18:50.34 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Speaking of which this trailer had one awful thing about it |
18:50.38 | AtsyBoi | Wormy_: , what's your primary empire? |
18:50.39 | Imperios | The Slann's voice |
18:50.47 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
18:50.50 | Wormy_ | Delpha Coalition of Planets |
18:50.53 | Imperios | Not sure if you're well-versed in Warhammer lore |
18:51.08 | dino82_ | @Monet: Oh wow, now that is blunt to ask for abdication |
18:51.24 | AtsyBoi | Ok |
18:51.38 | Wormy_ | Right I've gotta work |
18:51.55 | Imperios | But Slann are supposed to be these extremely ancient, powerful beings who served the literally creator gods of the universe, and actually remember them |
18:51.59 | Xho | Hachiman: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/29/Qarmurnhreion2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170401185123 Remade that Oevrumine character I had |
18:52.07 | Monet | dino82_: At least he Taremanon being polite. |
18:52.16 | Hachiman | Nice |
18:52.23 | Imperios | One would expect them to have the appropriate voices |
18:52.24 | Imperios | Insteade |
18:52.25 | dino82_ | true |
18:52.26 | Imperios | REEEEEEEE |
18:52.26 | Hachiman | Guess the latest Mivtanreior section got you in the mood |
18:52.38 | Xho | Actually it was the Adravaelic Empire page |
18:52.45 | Xho | I realised I forgot about that character so I remade him |
18:52.55 | Hachiman | Speaking of which |
18:53.00 | Monet | Imperios: Well Slanns are giant frog-lizards. |
18:53.06 | Hachiman | Imperios: READ STEEL WRYYYYYYYYYY http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ASteel_of_the_Plagued_Land#Chapter_7:_Hyena.27s_Grin |
18:53.29 | Hachiman | Also the previous section if you haven't |
18:53.42 | dino82_ | Taremanon - Neither does the Imperium unconditionally applaud you, your majesty. |
18:53.44 | Hachiman | I tried doing things a little differently with Hyena's Grin to make things a lil easier to read |
18:53.45 | dino82_ | interessting line................ |
18:54.08 | Xho | Hathgar would probably run into Qarmurnhreion if he marched into Abyssus considering he is Julianus' enforcer |
18:54.49 | Monet | Giant black moo. |
18:54.57 | Hachiman | Hathgar - im gonna turn ye into beef jerkeh |
18:55.51 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Actually about the Lizardmen, they actually have more in common with /pol/ then just them being led by massive frogs |
18:56.00 | Imperios | >His epiphany is that the Lizardmen have failed to accomplish the first of the Old Onesâ decrees â the extermination of those races not part of the Great Plan. |
18:56.05 | Imperios | >the extermination of those races not part of the Great Plan. |
18:56.25 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod |
18:56.34 | Monet | Mein Frogher |
18:56.45 | DrodoEmpire | *the extermination of (((((((((those races))))))))) not part of the Great Plan. |
18:56.46 | Hachiman | Mein Frogger |
18:57.25 | Imperios | Also I can't find the direct quote but they actually want every Warhammer race to return to the places where they were originally created and bar them from ever leaving them |
18:57.32 | Imperios | Like sending ALL elves to Ulthuan |
18:57.34 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
18:58.10 | AtsyBoi | (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
18:58.23 | drom | Imperios: fyi, I got Legion |
18:58.27 | drom | Let's rally |
18:58.30 | drom | ...someday |
18:58.36 | Monet | Imperios: But if they did that Skavenblight would well like packed beans and explode in a massive rain of rat-men. |
18:59.26 | Monet | WHich admittedly would be the fluffiest rainstorm in the history of forever. |
19:00.47 | AtsyBoi | what the fuck |
19:00.49 | AtsyBoi | xD |
19:00.52 | Imperios | Monet: Thing is, skaven were not created by the Old Ones |
19:01.06 | Imperios | They are one of (((((((((those races))))))))) |
19:01.07 | Monet | I know |
19:01.16 | Monet | But you said all races. |
19:01.35 | Imperios | Places where they were originally created by the Old Ones |
19:01.47 | Imperios | And as skaven were not created by the Old Ones they go into TRASH |
19:02.33 | Monet | I'm sure after centuries of fighting Clan Pestilens no skink would object |
19:03.04 | Hachiman | Fuck-fuck your Lizardmen |
19:03.40 | Hachiman | I still can't get over the fact that Thanquol has a fucking mental breakdown over the fact that the two adventurers who have foiled every single one of his plots and schemes have never met him and don't recognize him |
19:04.23 | Monet | The blow to his ego can be felt on the other side of the planet. |
19:05.11 | Hachiman | To be fair |
19:05.39 | Hachiman | If I found out that after 20 years of being foiled by a couple of adventurers, who I've come to treat as my archnemeses, don't recognize me or have never even heard of me, I'd go mad as well |
19:09.13 | Monet | Can't Grey Seers live for centuries though? |
19:09.56 | Hachiman | They can but that doesn't mean they experience time like elves do |
19:10.00 | Hachiman | They're still rats |
19:10.31 | Monet | Also reading up his troubles are a mix of "everyone around me is an idiot" and bad luck. |
19:10.59 | Hachiman | Everyone around him is an idiot, including himself |
19:11.50 | Monet | He sounds like Failbaddon. |
19:12.19 | Monet | I get your point though |
19:13.23 | Monet | It's just well being a rat-man he kind of sets himself up for a fall what with being paranoid, mentally broken from snorting warpstone and assuming everything that goes wrong is someone else's fauyt. |
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19:16.01 | Hachiman | Hi |
19:16.03 | Ghelae | Hi |
19:16.17 | Wormy_away | Hi |
19:16.22 | Monet | Never sniff warpstone, kids. |
19:17.34 | Wormy_away | Nah, Turn on, tune in, drop out :> |
19:23.01 | Wormy_away | and become Master of the Universe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W7ch0oLeA |
19:24.06 | Monet | Well |
19:24.52 | Monet | With warstone what's more likely to happen is your hair might turn into snakes and your feet turn into hooves. |
19:25.04 | Monet | Or you might grow a new organ. |
19:25.39 | Wormy_away | ooh |
19:25.42 | Monet | Or all the bones in your arms might dissolve. |
19:27.28 | drom | What is this? |
19:27.28 | drom | :o |
19:28.18 | Monet | Skaven, Warhammer and the wonderful effects of snorting Warpstone dust. |
19:31.41 | drom | Hm, Warhammer lore? |
19:31.54 | Monet | Yep. |
19:32.01 | Monet | Fantasy rather than 40k |
19:33.03 | drom | I see |
19:35.06 | AtsyBoi | snorts warpstone |
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19:36.49 | Monet | AtsyBoi: http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warpstone |
19:37.30 | AtsyBoi | k |
19:37.53 | AtsyBoi | fb ubj ner lbh? |
19:39.05 | Monet | hm? |
19:40.19 | AtsyBoi | fbeel, vg'f whfg ebg13 |
19:40.33 | Monet | Is this Elder Speech? |
19:40.57 | Monet | Oh wait |
19:41.21 | Monet | Your tongue got mutated didn't you? |
19:42.05 | AtsyBoi | lrf, v guvax fb |
19:42.13 | AtsyBoi | jk xD |
19:43.56 | Wormy_away | Xho Had a couple of beers and then the 40% gin comes out |
19:44.47 | Xho | y u do dis |
19:44.48 | AtsyBoi | you know, maybe in like 100M years from now, future alien astronomers will be confused by a line of craters dating to roughly the same time running around Mars's equator |
19:45.46 | Wormy_away | Its what my relatives did lol |
19:46.19 | Wormy_away | I'm disappointed sapphire gin isn't really blue |
19:46.41 | Wormy_away | I've been living a lie |
19:47.57 | DrodoEmpire | Personally I think we as a people should dedicate a large amount of resources to simply fucking with future generations |
19:48.21 | DrodoEmpire | You know, do nutty shit to leave archaeologists a million years from now scratching their heads |
19:48.53 | DrodoEmpire | Like burying an aircraft carrier heightwise -dead- in the core of Mount Everest |
19:50.11 | Wormy_away | I wonder if that happened already hur |
19:50.22 | AtsyBoi | ((((((((((((hur)))))))))))) |
19:50.42 | DrodoEmpire | Or building a mesopotamian ziggurat on the surface of the Moon, using stone from Iraq |
19:51.09 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy: Honestly you have to wonder lol |
19:51.17 | DrodoEmpire | If people tried doing that |
19:52.31 | AtsyBoi | or make a pyramid out of pure silver at the exact highest location on Rheasilvia's central peak |
19:54.02 | AtsyBoi | or a tesla coil fence surrounding the entirety of Olympus Mons |
19:54.25 | Wormy_away | That would be a big project |
19:54.35 | Imperios | AtsyBoi: Nh, you don't get it |
19:54.43 | Imperios | I'll explain the meme to you if you want |
19:55.03 | AtsyBoi | Ok |
19:56.23 | AtsyBoi | Imperios: Can you explain it? |
19:56.37 | Imperios | It originates from Neo-Nazi web slang |
19:57.43 | Imperios | The (((brackets))) indicate that the word has a hidden meaning for those in the know, for example they may say they hate the (((elites))), meaning Jewish people |
19:57.53 | Wormy_away | meme carefully |
19:58.07 | Imperios | Drodo used it to jokingly compare the Lizardmen to Nazis |
19:58.14 | Monet | Many have been burned for repeating a meme they didn't fully get. |
19:58.27 | AtsyBoi | Ah |
19:58.44 | DrodoEmpire | Well, it is -just- a meme so don't take it all too seriously hur |
19:59.08 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like we gave you a bunch of dodgy looking pills |
19:59.20 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah make sure you know what it -actually- means and oyou get the joke |
20:00.02 | Wormy_away | By all means use it, but in the right context |
20:00.16 | Wormy_away | Some communities, expect a burn |
20:02.44 | Wormy_away | We're laid back most of the time |
20:03.18 | Imperios | >[22:59:05] <DrodoEmpire> Its not like we gave you a bunch of dodgy looking pills |
20:03.19 | Imperios | Yeah |
20:03.22 | Imperios | We gave them good ones |
20:03.24 | Imperios | The red ones |
20:03.28 | Imperios | *him |
20:05.04 | DrodoEmpire | yeee |
20:07.58 | Wormy_away | Formulating a hypothesis about the Turing Test and evolutionary algorithms on gin while listening to psychedelic rock feels rather good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKQG5aOebWY |
20:10.21 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Remember the article on categories you gave me? |
20:10.33 | Wormy_away | Yeah, from slatstarcodex |
20:10.37 | Imperios | I actually managed to talk about it with professors in my uni |
20:10.46 | Wormy_away | What did they think? |
20:10.58 | Imperios | As they explained it there are actually two main views in semantics: "God's view", and cognitive |
20:11.09 | Wormy_away | SSC is written by an anonymous psychiatrist |
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20:11.33 | Wormy_away | Oh yeah, you was alluding to that |
20:11.35 | Wormy_away | hi |
20:11.36 | Cyrannian | Hai |
20:11.54 | Imperios | "God's view" is older, and postulates that meaning is objective, and can be defined precisely; the cognitive theory believes that meaning is objective |
20:12.21 | Imperios | We are taught both; currently we are studying God's View but in the next year we will delve deeper into cognitive semantics |
20:12.51 | Imperios | Cognitive semantics is however merely part of the greater movement in science that moves from hard facts into perception |
20:12.56 | Imperios | *a greater |
20:14.21 | Imperios | The professor compared these two views with capitalism and socialism: they're mutually exclusive, but both valid |
20:14.55 | Wormy_away | Yeah |
20:17.19 | DrodoEmpire | "When the gods created Gilgamesh they gave him a perfect body. Shamash the glorious sun endowed him with beauty, Adad the god of the storm endowed him with courage, the great gods made his beauty perfect, surpassing all others, terrifying like a great wild bull. Two thirds they made him god and one third man" |
20:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | oh my god what a gary stu am i right??? |
20:19.06 | Monet | It's like ancient Superman. |
20:25.00 | DrodoEmpire | In all seriousness- the Epic of Gilgamesh is a great read |
20:25.02 | DrodoEmpire | I like it |
20:36.30 | Imperios | He fights for truth and justice and the Sumerian way |
20:40.09 | Wormy_away | One epistemological thing I took away from the blog is context: there are meanings which are objective correct, based on facts or an explanation of facts; but there are also meanings that are arbitrary because they are based on a tradeoff of goals in the right context; and there are statements or boundaries drawn that are iunfit for any goals |
20:40.27 | Wormy_away | *unfit |
20:40.55 | Wormy_away | goals that are in a way, decided by the method itself |
20:41.41 | Wormy_away | Take for example this part |
20:41.56 | Wormy_away | "Now, thereâs something wrong with saying 'whales are phylogenetically just as closely related to bass, herring, and salmon as these three are related to each other.' Whatâs wrong with the statement is that itâs false. But saying 'whales are a kind of fish' isnât." |
20:42.59 | Wormy_away | To the goals of King Solomon, it makes sense to lump them in the same category |
20:43.47 | Wormy_away | And for the last case, concerning geography " You could just split the territory in half with a straight line, and give Israel the north and Palestine the south. All of these things would be really dumb." |
20:44.07 | Wormy_away | Its unclear what the goals are herem they are completely arbitrary |
20:45.12 | Wormy_away | In a way, language translation is similar, you need a contextual package from which to understand the contents of information |
20:46.35 | DrodoEmpire | I don't think simply splitting it like that would work <.< |
20:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | Actually, that seems like it'd cause even more issues |
20:46.45 | Wormy_away | However, note that phylogenetic explanations that much stricter goals from which evidence has to be explained, but now that;s concept of explanatory power |
20:46.59 | Wormy_away | Yes |
20:47.29 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
20:47.32 | Wormy_away | *have much |
20:47.45 | Wormy_away | That's his point, hence "it's really dumb" |
20:48.22 | Wormy_away | But then throws another wrench in |
20:48.43 | Wormy_away | If you are a crazy despot who wants to cause shit, then it has context |
20:49.02 | DrodoEmpire | Ohh, right |
20:49.03 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
20:49.55 | Tek0516 | Hello |
20:56.30 | Wormy_away | So yeah, validity is goal-oriented |
20:56.40 | Wormy_away | Same in simulation and optimisation actually |
20:57.11 | Wormy_away | A scientist making a simulation need not make a totally factual representation of reality, it merely needs to work |
20:57.26 | Wormy_away | Or better, convince the stakeholder |
20:57.34 | Wormy_away | So you can take away your cash |
20:58.12 | Wormy_away | Valid within the spec defined |
20:59.58 | Wormy_away | Imperios ^ did you see |
21:01.54 | Wormy_away | Perception and goal oriented context might relate our two angles here |
21:07.15 | Xho | Monet: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/172667621385439206/E7F5A2D9978252E8920E3ABB4F10ABEE0C09E65B/ Meanwhile in SoM |
21:08.21 | Monet | You've been busy |
21:08.28 | Monet | Fast too. |
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21:13.01 | Methanogen | Hello |
21:13.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
21:13.52 | Methanogen | Hi there Drodo, going well? |
21:15.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I'm alright |
21:15.05 | DrodoEmpire | You? |
21:15.18 | Methanogen | Fairly good |
21:16.20 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
21:18.01 | Methanogen | I have to ask, how long have you had the Drodo for? Out of cuorisity |
21:18.09 | Methanogen | *curiosity |
21:18.56 | DrodoEmpire | They were among my first creations in Spore, predating their involvement in the fictionverse |
21:18.57 | DrodoEmpire | So... |
21:19.09 | DrodoEmpire | Since 2012? 2011? |
21:19.12 | DrodoEmpire | Loooong time |
21:19.23 | Methanogen | Ah quite a while |
21:19.37 | DrodoEmpire | In their -current- iteration though I'd say since 2014ish |
21:19.49 | Methanogen | I've had spore for ages but all my old stuff has been lost due to constant computer changes, and also my old stuff was rather,..awful |
21:19.54 | Methanogen | I see |
21:19.58 | Methanogen | Still quite a while |
21:20.47 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
21:20.48 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
21:21.14 | Methanogen | My fictions were all created about the same time as their fiction pages atm |
21:23.19 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
21:23.59 | Methanogen | In Spore, half of my creations are alright and the other half are completely random abominations |
21:24.14 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21699311/14909115288230.webm AMERICA |
21:25.32 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21699311/14909118962660.webm #Americans |
21:25.42 | Tek0516 | I'm doing some updates to the Farengeto page |
21:26.21 | DrodoEmpire | k |
21:26.28 | Imperios | drom: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21699311/14909380755503.webm |
21:34.04 | drom | Even disco music wtf |
21:34.20 | Wormy_away | Impy: You see my posts |
21:34.24 | Wormy_away | ? |
21:34.40 | Imperios | Yeah |
21:34.52 | Imperios | That ultimately depends on the situation yeah |
21:35.11 | Imperios | For example in the field of computational linguistics, such as when creating electronic dictionaries for machine translation |
21:35.17 | Imperios | We DO require objective definitions |
21:36.28 | Wormy_away | Indeed, and I would certainly employ them if I was trying to find better explanations for I don't know, why this rock type has crystallised edges next to a strike slip fault |
21:39.07 | Wormy_away | I like how the context of the post was to address rationalists only interested in objective statements, ignoring or failing to understand negotiable ones. |
21:39.44 | Wormy_away | and making silly arguments like "Bible is fallible because Jonah was eaten by a whale described as a fish" or something along those lines |
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21:45.57 | Wormy_away | hi |
21:48.40 | Tybusen | Hello |
21:50.07 | Wormy_away | rip Lemmy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6OuyJKnIyU |
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21:56.25 | Wormy_away | I bet whatever afterlife Lemmy went to got a whole lot louder |
21:56.28 | Tek0516 | I just got back from watching that Ghost in the Shell movie. Considering it came out yesterday I'm surprised how empty the theater was. |
21:57.23 | Imperios | Monet: I wonder why Gaston and LeFou had hats in the new Beauty and the Beast movie |
21:58.25 | Wormy_away | Tek: How was it? |
21:58.37 | Tek0516 | It was alright. |
21:59.11 | Monet | Imperios: Why wouldn't they? |
21:59.23 | Imperios | THey didn't in the original |
21:59.38 | Imperios | There they have MASSIVE wide-brimmed hats every time they ride horses |
22:00.02 | Monet | It might be for the sake of animation. |
22:00.21 | Imperios | I just realised they kind of reminded me of Brokeback Mountain protagonists hur |
22:00.28 | Monet | Gaston in the film wears the same outfit that he wore only once in the animated film |
22:01.51 | Monet | That and in the animated the only time we don't see someone wearing a hat or headcover while riding is when Gaston marches with the village to besiege the castle. |
22:05.21 | Monet | Tek0516: COnversely I saw Beauty and the Beast a week after it came out and the cinema was packed. |
22:06.39 | Wormy_away | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSodCuo73ig |
22:06.51 | Tek0516 | Monet: Looking at the estimated box office numbers for yesterday Beauty and the Beast apparently still beat Ghost in the Shell. |
22:07.04 | Tek0516 | By a wide margin at that |
22:08.41 | Monet | BatB is a remake of one of Disney's finest animated classics and GitS is an Anime adaptation. |
22:09.00 | Monet | GitS -needed- the starpower of Scarlet Johanssen. |
22:09.06 | Tek0516 | Oh yeah, it'd definitely be more popular |
22:10.03 | Tek0516 | Monet: Of course apparently Scarlet Johanssen caused a big whitewashing controversy that ended up probably hurting the movie. |
22:10.39 | Tek0516 | So I think GitS was kind of a lose-lose situation in that regard. |
22:13.28 | Monet | I've got a friend who is a big GitS nerd. Loves the series |
22:13.43 | Monet | He saw the film and thought the issue was, well a non-issue |
22:14.37 | Tybusen | The thing about GitS is that I don't think it exerts a lot of mainstream pull in the first place, and the Scarlett Johansson whitewashing stuff probably hurt the movie's mainstream appeal more than it helped it |
22:15.55 | Monet | Probably |
22:16.04 | drom | "Where you told you were born in April 1st? I am sorry, but I believe that was a fools joke." |
22:16.06 | Tybusen | People who already know GitS and enjoy it are probably inclined to watch the movie anyways and won't be turned off by whitewashing controversy, but people who aren't familiar with the anime see the controversy and don't want to see it, even if it has star power behind it |
22:16.27 | Monet | I mean in the series it's a non issue because the Major's body is completely robotic, so what ethinicity she is is entirely up to her. |
22:16.42 | Monet | Just like how she has purple hair and bright red eyes. |
22:17.35 | Tybusen | Yeah, but 1.) people who don't know about the anime don't know that and 2.) the character's name is Japanese so the first assumption people would make is that the character is supposed to be Japanese |
22:18.48 | Monet | I accept that the whitewashing controversy probably did stir some things. |
22:18.55 | Tybusen | This is all in hindsight of course but I think GitS could have gotten better appeal by casting a Japanese actress of equal or superior talent in Scarlett's place |
22:19.32 | Monet | Although in this case for those in the know it -kinda- makes the ones calling whitewashing look a little racist. |
22:19.39 | Tek0516 | For most of the film you don't even know her character's real name, just the given name of "Major". Amusingly the name and whtewashing is technically story relevant. |
22:19.59 | Tybusen | Even if the actress wasn't a big-name actress, it would've avoided the negative publicity from the whitewashing controversy, and hell, the positive publicity for "actually casting Japanese person in a 'Japanese' character role" |
22:20.13 | Tybusen | *the positive publicity would be a plus |
22:20.45 | Monet | Tek0516: This might be where the Anime knowledge comes in |
22:21.01 | Tek0516 | I'd never seen any of the stuff so I wouldn't know. |
22:21.17 | Monet | There we know here name to be "Motoko Kurosagi" but everyone pretty much calls her "Major" there too. |
22:21.24 | Tybusen | It's mainly about optics rather than actual relevance to the story |
22:21.34 | Tek0516 | I just hadn't gone to the theater for a while and the movie seemed remotely interesting. :P |
22:21.44 | Tek0516 | Tybusen: Oh I totally agree. |
22:26.13 | Tek0516 | The in-movie excuse for being white is that she was supposedly a refugee. |
22:26.27 | Tek0516 | Which has some curiousness in itself. :P |
22:27.20 | Monet | If I vaguely recall fro mte ANime, the world went to shit between the time the anime was published and the setting's present |
22:27.35 | Tybusen | I mean it's not unheard of for people to go to Japan and change their names to Japanese names IRL |
22:27.56 | Tybusen | Lafcadio Hearn/Koizumi Yakumo is a notable example |
22:28.49 | Monet | America in the anime had changed its name to the "American Empire" and there was a mission Batao was once on in South/Central America where some really disturbing Buffalo Bill type stuff was encountered. |
22:29.22 | Tybusen | Like if they justify it in-story then it's all good, I don't really have a huge problem with it other than the whole continuing the trend of casting white actors where they could afford to diversify a little |
22:29.50 | Monet | I did have a minor shock seeing Togusa compared to how he is in the Anime. |
22:30.06 | Monet | There he's a real hardcore 80s nerd with a classic sports car and even a mullet. |
22:30.32 | Tybusen | Like I'm completely unbothered by the Great Wall movie now knowing that Matt Damon's character is supposed to be white, and is more of a perspective character rather than being a white savior archetype |
22:31.07 | Tek0516 | Tybusen: The Japanese name is totally justified in the movie's story. But since it involves one of the movie's "plot twists" they couldn't exactly advertise it. |
22:31.51 | Tybusen | Yea but the people who would have an initial interest in the movie (people who already know GitS) already know that "twist" and would spread it around alongside any advertisement for the movie |
22:32.31 | Tybusen | Hard to keep a lid on spoilers for an adaptation of another work that already has an established and potentially vocal fanbase |
22:33.11 | Tek0516 | Even having not seen any of it the twist was fairly obvious. |
22:37.47 | Tek0516 | Tybusen: Actually thinking about it they have her use an entirely non-Japanese name for most of it. "Mira Killian" according to Wikipedia. |
22:38.10 | Monet | I have a friend who went on a bit of a rant "Adaptine ANime to life-action is really hard ot get right especially for Hollywood where it's near impossible" |
22:39.18 | Tek0516 | Yeah. I can't even name any major Japanese actors, and I imagine those who do English films are even fewer. |
22:39.27 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
22:39.35 | Tybusen | I think one of the difficulties with adapting animated works to live-action is that you can make an animated character do a lot more than a real human being, though special effects have gotten good enough that it shouldn't be a problem with a decent budget |
22:39.55 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
22:40.07 | Tek0516 | The visuals in the movie were definitely well done |
22:40.56 | Tybusen | There is something to be said about some of the themes in an anime being lost when it gets put through the Hollywood wringer |
22:41.07 | Monet | Ghost in the Shell thankfully isn't as bat-crap crazy a say One Piece or Dragonball. |
22:41.08 | Tybusen | But that's the same for any work that doesn't originate in Hollywood |
22:41.32 | Monet | WHich might have helped it. |
22:41.42 | Tek0516 | It's not a terrible movie but it's not great. |
22:41.54 | Tybusen | Yeah, Ghost in the Shell is less cartoony than things like Dragonball |
22:42.01 | Monet | GitS also had stuff like Blade Runner to fall back on. |
22:42.11 | Tybusen | The more cartoony a work is, the harder it is to make live-action |
22:42.13 | Monet | It's a theme Hollywood knows how to do. |
22:44.19 | Tybusen | And animated works like Lion King or Shrek that have primarily non-human protagonists really have to abstract-ize a bit to make live-action adaptations work |
22:44.52 | Monet | If it weren't for Keanu "I can't perform beyond being a plank since Bill and Ted" Reeves I might be keen on a Cowboy Bebop movie. |
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22:47.55 | Monet | Not because of whitewashing or anything, but because Reeves can't seem to act anymore. |
22:48.22 | Monet | It's quite bizarre to see his performance in Bill and Ted and then go back ot something like Neo or Constantine. |
22:49.36 | Technobliterator | I feel like Reeves mostly plays characters that don't have a lot of dialogue anyway |
22:51.57 | Monet | Oh John Constantine is far from quiet and reserved. |
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22:55.04 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
23:04.36 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#HAHAHAHAHA_TOLD_YA Archived, and new message :V |
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23:05.13 | Technobliterator | brb |
23:05.39 | Monet | Universe - Dun care still a dumbass |
23:06.20 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_the_Ancient_Three#Calm_Before_the_Storm if you're gonna post that, then have this |
23:06.24 | OluapPlayer | Includes the PCA's reaction |
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23:19.50 | DrodoAway | Technobliterator: Drodo - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
23:22.44 | Monet | OluapPlayer: RIA - So...a bit of a regime change is required. What can we do to help? |
23:22.55 | Monet | One of their specialties. |
23:23.21 | OluapPlayer | Yalorein - things of the sneaky variety |
23:23.49 | Monet | RIA - Sooo pretty much all we do. Cool. |
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23:30.36 | OluapPlayer | Knowledge of the movement is restricted to Vekaron for now. I imagine the RIA will be contacted after I introduce the resistance proper |
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23:33.05 | AtsyBoi | Hi |
23:33.17 | AtsyBoi | Are there any collab fics i can join? |
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23:39.44 | DrodoAway | Not sure |
23:39.56 | DrodoEmpire | What fiction do you have? |
23:43.28 | OluapPlayer | Monet: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753925964 |
23:44.38 | AtsyBoi | Basically nothing |
23:44.38 | AtsyBoi | xD |
23:44.46 | Monet | Looking"The Armies of Legionfall have been successful in their mission to defeat the Burning Legion. Azeroth is finally safe, from all enemies, forever." |
23:45.28 | Monet | I love Blizzard humour. |
23:45.52 | AtsyBoi | Is it the "Forever" part? |
23:47.00 | Monet | I ended up reading on the species of Andromeda. |
23:47.04 | OluapPlayer | Fucking hell that page is hilarious |
23:47.19 | Tek0516 | Oh, there it is. >.< There's a Farengeto page that's no longer canon, and despite not even having Farengeto in the name it's one of the top automatic results for Farengeto. And now I've finally figured out why. -.- |
23:47.32 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
23:47.39 | Monet | OluapPLayer: "players will not be able to enter any raid instance without having first completed the Maw of Souls dungeon at least 500 times on Mythic Keystone difficulty." |
23:47.41 | Tek0516 | Because, *waits for rage from Techno* there's a redirect in the fiction namespace to it. >.> |
23:47.46 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, yeah, I saw |
23:47.49 | Technobliterator | Good stuff :o |
23:48.20 | Monet | "After careful consideration, Odyn has admitted that beating his champions nearly to death immediately before sending them to battle in Helheim was perhaps not the wisest course of action. As such, the Odyn encounter in Trial of Valor has been replaced with a written exam." my sides |
23:48.59 | Tek0516 | ...my comment about fiction redirects seems to have immediately summoned Technobliterator. XD |
23:49.12 | Monet | "It's the Eye of Azshara. It's the thrill of the fight." okay I might have found my vavourite |
23:49.33 | Monet | "measuring up to the challenge of the Legion" |
23:49.45 | OluapPlayer | "The errant letter 'e' has been removed from the names of the talents Bacon of Faith, Bacon of the Lightbringer, and Bacon of Virtue." |
23:49.47 | OluapPlayer | Goddamnit |
23:49.51 | Technobliterator | Well, I can't find the fiction redirect, so you are off the hook |
23:49.54 | Technobliterator | for now |
23:49.55 | Technobliterator | 8D |
23:50.02 | AtsyBoi | HELP ME WITH FICTION |
23:50.07 | Tek0516 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Farengeto_Republic/Rise_of_the_Kallion_Syndicate?redirect=no Can somebody delete this at least? I really wanted it gone anyway. :P |
23:50.19 | Wormy_ | will do |
23:50.25 | Technobliterator | done |
23:50.49 | Monet | "and the last known survivor is a moody night elf and he's watching us all with the EYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEE of Azshara. |
23:50.51 | Wormy_ | ninjad |
23:51.03 | ZF105 | Atsyboi What is it you need help with? |
23:51.12 | Wormy_ | What about the main page? |
23:51.18 | Tek0516 | Now hopefully that non-canon page I don't like anymore will stop showing up in search. XD |
23:51.53 | Wormy_ | Do you want :Rise of the Kallion Syndicate gone too? |
23:52.07 | Tek0516 | Nah, leave it for now. It's just non-canon. |
23:52.18 | Tek0516 | It's old and cringy. :P |
23:53.04 | Monet | Imagine when artifact knowledge reaches OVER NINE THOUSAAAAND! |
23:53.34 | OluapPlayer | we 2007 now |
23:54.04 | AtsyBoi | 1997* |
23:54.12 | Monet | Cool. |
23:54.25 | OluapPlayer | "remember to go through this list and randomly remove a few changes before you post this." |
23:54.30 | OluapPlayer | This is too meta and it pisses me off hur |
23:55.40 | Monet | "You'll automatically be given a traditional Demon Hunter name, such as "Skillidan" "Chillidan" or "Ãllïdåñ"" |
23:56.00 | AtsyBoi | Illidanillidan |
23:56.23 | OluapPlayer | I legit have a guy on my guild with a demon hunter called IllidanJR |
23:57.08 | Wormy_ | bbl playing Elite |
23:57.09 | AtsyBoi | What people are ok with doing a collab fic with me? |
23:57.16 | Monet | Funnily enough I once played CHampions Online with a guy whose character was a Deadpool clone called Livepool. |
23:57.23 | DrodoEmpire | Well, we'll need more information that a "collab fic" |
23:57.29 | DrodoEmpire | What's the collab? With what fiction? |
23:58.52 | Monet | Oh man the Frozen jokes for the Mages |