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01:55.11 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Don't know about Canada but over here that plate wouldn't be legal because it doesn't have any numbers. |
01:55.46 | DrodoEmpire | Nah it was issued by the government, and the only reason that it wasn't renewed seems to be that it was 'offensive' |
02:18.41 | Monet | I see |
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07:54.49 | Hachiman | Hi |
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08:06.23 | Ghelae | Hello. |
08:07.13 | Hachiman | Hi |
08:19.01 | Technobliterator | ~test |
08:19.01 | infobot | from memory, test is not funny |
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08:27.13 | Methanogen | Hello |
08:28.49 | Ghelae | Hello. |
08:29.04 | Methanogen | Hi, how are you doing? |
08:29.15 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
08:29.31 | Methanogen | Fairly good |
08:30.00 | Methanogen | Do you ever get that feeling where you have a million random ideas and no way to connect them and really should be working on what you already have? |
08:31.31 | Methanogen | That kind of the feeling I have atm |
08:35.13 | Methanogen | I've still got to come up with history which I cannot seem to find much inspiration for |
08:38.37 | Hachiman | Yeah, I get what you mean |
08:38.40 | Hachiman | Also hi |
08:39.06 | Methanogen | Hi Hachi |
08:40.21 | Methanogen | But yeah, I've got to come up with history stuff, and hopefully develop some kind of story soon |
08:44.20 | Methanogen | Any advice for this sort of stuff? |
08:45.43 | Ghelae | There's no point rushing to do things you don't know how to do. If you have other ideas to write down, focus on them, and maybe ideas of history will come to you while you're not trying to think about them. |
08:46.08 | Methanogen | Got it |
08:46.16 | Methanogen | So basically don't try to force it |
08:47.16 | Ghelae | Exactly. |
08:48.15 | Methanogen | Just wait until you actually get ideas then write those down and expand on it? |
08:48.34 | Ghelae | Yes. |
08:49.09 | Methanogen | I'll do that then, thanks for the help |
08:52.19 | Methanogen | Gtg, nice talking |
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10:02.18 | Wormy_ | hi |
10:03.38 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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10:48.57 | Monet | Hi |
10:49.23 | Ghelae | Hi |
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11:03.06 | Methanogen | Hello |
11:10.53 | Monet2 | Hi |
11:11.09 | Methanogen | Ah hi there, how are you going? |
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11:13.08 | Methanogen | Name reset? |
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11:13.44 | Methanogen | Name change again? |
11:14.35 | Monet2 | Was in a lift |
11:14.53 | Methanogen | Ahhhh that explains it |
11:16.40 | Hachiman | Hi |
11:16.56 | Methanogen | Hi Hachi |
11:20.37 | Methanogen | Here's a random question: do you generally prefer standard or exotic life? |
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11:22.14 | Wormydroid | Hi |
11:22.15 | Methanogen | Hi |
11:24.22 | Methanogen | Another random question (sorry for asking so many of them): what's your favourite fiction that you've created? |
11:26.04 | Wormydroid | Too hard for me to say |
11:26.26 | Wormydroid | I can think of fictions that gave me more joy makibg |
11:26.38 | Methanogen | Mine is....yeah I have only two and I can't even decide |
11:26.41 | Methanogen | What would those be then? |
11:27.04 | Wormydroid | Like Multiverse, Destinies in time, aa for politics/war stuff, Attero Dominatys are up there |
11:27.25 | Methanogen | I see |
11:27.27 | Wormydroid | Dominatus |
11:27.41 | Methanogen | I liked making..well..I only have four pages so I don't think that's enough to really judge |
11:28.05 | Hachiman | Sorry I was afk |
11:28.06 | Hachiman | Hm |
11:28.15 | Hachiman | I like both standard and exotic life |
11:28.22 | Hachiman | Especially when they interact with one another |
11:28.28 | Methanogen | As do I really |
11:28.31 | Wormydroid | There's also the Great Xonexian Schism, though it also caused a lot if tension |
11:28.38 | Methanogen | It did? |
11:28.48 | Methanogen | I just know it was a thing and that Xonexi is a cluster |
11:29.27 | Methanogen | Exotic and standard life interacting can make for some entertaining and interesting experiences I'm sure |
11:30.57 | Hachiman | Aye |
11:31.22 | Wormydroid | I like thinking about the exotic aliens and their relatiobship to the world. What is thrir experience of it? goals? psychology? |
11:31.38 | Methanogen | True that stuff is interesting |
11:32.05 | Wormydroid | You might like the book Dragon's Egg |
11:32.20 | Methanogen | I haven't made any aliens with truly unapproachable psychology (yet anyway) because i get the feeling I should work with stuff I can at least understand |
11:32.26 | Methanogen | I've never heard of that |
11:32.32 | Wormydroid | Involves neutron star life |
11:32.55 | Methanogen | That sounds very exotic indeed |
11:33.04 | Hachiman | Also, the Xeelee Sequence features... what even are the Qax? |
11:34.14 | Methanogen | So far I've just got sulfurif acid solvent aliens and carbon-based aquatic hemocyanin-chlorocruorin reverse chirality starfish aliens |
11:34.36 | Methanogen | I really need to make a methanogen sometime so I live up to my name |
11:34.44 | Wormydroid | Well Qax at the cellular level are made of turbulent vortices, perhaps with chemistry involved too |
11:35.17 | Methanogen | I have no idea what that means but I'll take the as very unusual aliens |
11:35.21 | Wormydroid | Its not very really detailed how that works |
11:35.31 | Methanogen | I see |
11:35.35 | Hachiman | They're basically living bodies of liquid or something |
11:36.07 | Wormydroid | In the Xeelee Sequence, humans get conquered by cruel, time travelling pools of frothing mud |
11:36.14 | Methanogen | I vaguely see...I guess they're rather confusingly explained things |
11:36.28 | Methanogen | They really need a hose then :P |
11:36.54 | Hachiman | They are conquered by cruel, time-travelling pools of frothing mud which use actual space whales - or Splines - for interstellar travel |
11:36.59 | Wormydroid | That's if you get inside their space whale ships armed with star breakers |
11:37.09 | Methanogen | I guess I make fun of that but I haven't seen that and really a Yorchi could die from a hose... |
11:37.27 | Methanogen | So frothing mud using space whales |
11:37.52 | Wormydroid | But yes the Qax were fragile and few in number, when humanuty finally defeats the Qax most of them die |
11:37.52 | Hachiman | Frothing mud that later adapts from their homeworld to inhabiting the turbulent winds of Jupiter |
11:38.04 | Hachiman | Or something like that, I think |
11:38.25 | Wormydroid | And then to the motions of interstellar dust and eventually spacetime foam |
11:38.53 | Methanogen | Certainly sounds interesting |
11:39.17 | Hachiman | Photino Birds tho |
11:39.28 | Hachiman | They're probably one of the most exotic forms of alien life I've seen |
11:39.33 | Hachiman | As are the Xeelee themselves |
11:39.41 | Methanogen | And I thought sulfuric acid people were a bit weird |
11:40.01 | Wormydroid | The Qax could coexist with the Birds and did until Paul whatshisname convinced the Qax to fight them |
11:40.35 | Hachiman | Aren't the Xeelee basically a culmination of surviving species from the early chaotic universe or something to that effect? |
11:40.44 | Wormydroid | There are even more bizzare aliens in the Xeeleeverse,but I'll explain them later |
11:40.51 | Wormydroid | Yed |
11:40.53 | Wormydroid | Yes |
11:41.13 | Methanogen | Sounds like a good source for inspiration for completely insanely weird aliens |
11:41.31 | Hachiman | The Snowmen are also kinda weird |
11:41.39 | Hachiman | I can't remember them exactly but I know they were strange |
11:42.01 | Hachiman | Were they called Snowmen? I can't remember |
11:42.16 | Methanogen | I see |
11:42.37 | Methanogen | Oh yeah here's a question |
11:42.45 | Hachiman | In any case, you can see me and Wormy appreciate strange xenobiochemistry hur |
11:43.28 | Methanogen | I've been looking at random species on the wiki lately and saw some had biochemistry listed as "Type A", "Type B" and even a "Type F". Is there some classification system I'm not aware of? |
11:43.30 | Methanogen | True it seems that way |
11:43.49 | Ghelae | That was an old classification system that I believe we got rid of. |
11:44.07 | Ghelae | "Type A" was carbon-based, "Type B" was silicon-based, and there were some others too. |
11:44.18 | Methanogen | Ah I see |
11:44.23 | Methanogen | What was the reason for its removal? |
11:44.41 | Ghelae | Firstly, as you can tell, it's not very descriptive. |
11:45.18 | Ghelae | Secondly, some of them were wrong, e.g. there was "ammonia-based life" where ammonia is either a solvent or waste-product gas of respiration. |
11:45.33 | Methanogen | True, I still have no idea what a Type F is though I eventually picked upon on A and B a bit |
11:45.35 | Methanogen | Ah |
11:45.49 | Methanogen | Yeah that'd be a problem |
11:45.55 | Ghelae | And I think it might have been Type F, or one of the other later letters, which was worst of all: it was a catch-all category of unrelated "exotic" biochemistries. |
11:46.08 | Methanogen | Ah.... |
11:46.36 | Methanogen | Yorchi may have been in that...they have sulfuric acid solvent and silicon-Sulfur base |
11:46.57 | Methanogen | I can see why it was removed |
11:47.39 | Methanogen | So now for biochemistry people just write what is actually is? |
11:48.53 | Monet2 | Silicon is type B |
11:49.08 | Methanogen | Ah true actually |
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11:49.33 | Ghelae | Yeah, just write what the biochemistry is. Normally just the primary element, so silicon for Yorchi. |
11:49.45 | Wormydroid | Yes, they were called Snowmen |
11:49.54 | Methanogen | Lemme check something |
11:51.21 | Methanogen | I wrote " silicon/sulfur based, sulfuric acid as solvent". You see, I was trying to make them not sound like the thing where you say something is silicon based but it doesn't really make a difference |
11:52.05 | Monet2 | I recall that the Kicath have sulfuric acid for a solvent and silicon as a base |
11:52.28 | Methanogen | Really? Interesting, that's similar to a Yorchi then |
11:52.55 | Methanogen | Well, Yorchi have silicon-Sulfur base but I guess that's a silicon base |
11:54.06 | Monet2 | there's a compound called silicon sulfide |
11:54.16 | Methanogen | The Eriaroons just get "carbon-based water-breathers" which is simple but accurate |
11:54.50 | Methanogen | I just rmeebred somethjng about silicon oxygen bonds being possible and Sulfur can apparently be similar to oxygen sooooo I thinking that's where I got it from |
11:55.24 | Methanogen | Plus sulfuric acid made me think of Sulfur |
11:58.15 | Ghelae | It's worth noting that humans are more like a carbon-nitrogen base than just carbon, but we still say "carbon-based". |
11:58.36 | Wormydroid | Yeah |
11:58.49 | Methanogen | True |
11:58.55 | Wormydroid | Bbl |
11:59.14 | Methanogen | We are..carbon hydrogen nitrogen oxygen phosphorus based |
11:59.26 | Ghelae | Those are the main elements. |
11:59.29 | Methanogen | See you |
11:59.46 | Ghelae | But the backbone of a protein is primarily carbon-carbon-nitrogen-carbon-carbon-nitrogen-... |
12:00.05 | Methanogen | Yorchi are....Sulfur silicon hydrogen oxygen (maybe? Idk) nitrogen (probably) arsenic based |
12:00.31 | Ghelae | Sometimes there'll be extra carbons from some amino acids. |
12:00.47 | Methanogen | I see |
12:01.18 | Ghelae | The way I think of it is that you need a good element that can form multiple molecular bonds to make up the complex machinery of biomolecules, and that is the "base". |
12:01.18 | Methanogen | I haven't really thought too intricately about this stuff honestly, I was more worried about the technological and conditional implications and such |
12:01.35 | Ghelae | Then life just uses whatever other elements it can get to build up the rest of the machinery. |
12:01.51 | Methanogen | You also need a solvent apparently I think anyway |
12:01.53 | Methanogen | Hmmmmmm |
12:02.42 | Methanogen | Well Moriahra, home of the Yorchi, has silicon on it, which is similar (closest individual element I think) to but not as good as carbon for this stuff apparently |
12:02.55 | Methanogen | Sulfur is everywhere because of volcanic activity and such |
12:03.11 | Methanogen | Sulfuriic acid is also everywhere |
12:03.35 | Methanogen | It has a higher concentration of heavier elements than earth so stuff like arsenic is around enough to be used by life |
12:03.51 | Methanogen | Hydrogen, as always, is all over the place in one form or another |
12:04.18 | Methanogen | Oxygen would be around because it's in sulfuric acid and it has to come from somewhere |
12:04.20 | Ghelae | Yes, you also need a solvent and an oxidising/reducing agent for respiration. |
12:04.55 | Methanogen | Sulfuric acid was the solvent I believe |
12:04.59 | Ghelae | Sulfuric acid as a solvent, and oxygen as a respiratory gas, should be best for the Yorchi. |
12:05.24 | Methanogen | Right, got it |
12:06.17 | Methanogen | So silicon-Sulfur bass with oxygen respiration and sulfuric acid solvent? I had respiration before as hydrogen sulfide because I misinterpreted how some bacteria worked |
12:06.26 | Ghelae | Yes. |
12:06.41 | Ghelae | And I wondered why the hydrogen sulfide was being used. |
12:06.50 | Methanogen | Alright, I'll just make the oxygen respiration change |
12:07.23 | Methanogen | It's because...a bacteria reduced elemental Sulfur to it or something which I misinterpreted |
12:07.47 | Methanogen | Sadly I'm not an expert on this stuff |
12:07.52 | Ghelae | Anaerobic respiration like that is fine for microbes and simple multicellular organisms, but I'm doubtful that any advanced technological civilisation would arise from anything other than oxygen, hydrogen, or a light halogen. |
12:08.17 | Methanogen | I've got to make a halogen breather someday |
12:08.55 | Methanogen | I'm guessing hydrocarbon life would end up using hydrogen or something |
12:09.10 | Monet2 | One problem with breathing halogens |
12:09.10 | Ghelae | I think so. |
12:09.21 | Ghelae | They can reduce long-chained hydrocarbons to shorter ones. |
12:09.34 | Methanogen | They like making salts and generally messing everything up? As far as I know anyway |
12:09.35 | Monet2 | only fluorine and chlorine exist naturally as gases |
12:09.44 | Methanogen | In earth conditions |
12:09.47 | Ghelae | Yes; by "light halogen" I meant one of those two. |
12:10.24 | Methanogen | Bromines a liquid, iodines....something and astatine is...nowhere to be found enough for life and radioactive |
12:10.48 | Ghelae | The bigger problem is that they're so reactive *and* rare in the universe that you're unlikely to find them free in high enough quantities for life to use. |
12:11.05 | Methanogen | Maybe a fluorine breather with hydrogen fluoride solvent could work or something idk |
12:11.07 | Methanogen | True |
12:11.14 | Ghelae | Yes; that's one way to do it. |
12:11.33 | Methanogen | Then again, keep in a mind a lot of this stuff for me is really just random ideas |
12:11.47 | Ghelae | If life is common enough, I guess it's possible for natural halogenated planets to exist; otherwise, an artificial biosphere is also an option. |
12:12.03 | Ghelae | life-bearing natural halogenated planets* |
12:12.33 | Methanogen | I'm aware most of these possibilities are kind of unlikely but I still like speculating |
12:13.36 | Methanogen | What other weird stuff is there...oh right liquid gases like liquid nitrogen or hydrogen as solvents on really really cold places I think got mentioned somewhere |
12:14.57 | Hachiman | Apologies, forgot I had the IRC open |
12:15.08 | Ghelae | Yes. The problem with very cold solvents is that it results in very slow life. |
12:15.18 | Methanogen | Yeah |
12:15.44 | Methanogen | What's a warmer solvent than water? Because most seem to be colder that I'm aware of |
12:17.06 | Ghelae | Sulfuric acid is. |
12:17.12 | Ghelae | I'm not sure about others. |
12:17.21 | Methanogen | True....that's the only one I really know |
12:17.22 | Ghelae | Solvents with higher boiling points tend to be more complex molecules. |
12:17.50 | Methanogen | Ah |
12:17.53 | Ghelae | Formamide is one. |
12:18.16 | Ghelae | Formic acid is, barely. |
12:18.30 | Methanogen | All I know about that is that it seems to have something to do with formic acid or something |
12:18.54 | Ghelae | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/formamide |
12:19.11 | Methanogen | Should totally use acetic acid |
12:19.24 | Ghelae | Formamide has -NH3; formic acid has -OH. |
12:19.31 | Ghelae | NH2* |
12:19.31 | Methanogen | Ah |
12:19.44 | Methanogen | Should really have gotten that from the "amide" bit |
12:20.26 | Ghelae | Then acetic has C-CH3 instead of C-H. So it's more complicated, and has a higher boiling point. |
12:20.56 | Methanogen | Nitrogen likes to show up in life stuff a lot doesn't it: it's in a ammonia (possible solvent), some combined life bases (nitrogen-boron apparently) and now formamide |
12:21.07 | Ghelae | The question then becomes, if it exists naturally on a planet, will the acetic be more common than the formic? |
12:21.27 | Ghelae | Nitrogen, being a common element capable of forming three covalent bonds, is useful. |
12:21.42 | Methanogen | Hmmmmm |
12:21.51 | Ghelae | I've not heard of nitrogen-boron. I do know that there was an uncited section on Wikipedia about nitrogen-phosphorus life once. |
12:21.56 | Methanogen | Good point there |
12:22.02 | Methanogen | Alparnetky the idea is |
12:22.17 | Methanogen | Carbon has a valence of four |
12:22.32 | Ghelae | I suppose you're basically replacing carbon with boron, and upping the amount of nitrogen to compensate. |
12:22.42 | Methanogen | Nitrogen has three and boron has five so if those are together they'll even out to create a similar overall effect or something |
12:22.49 | Methanogen | Hmmmm possibly yeah |
12:23.09 | Methanogen | I just know that it makes me think of crystalline life living on ice planets for some reason |
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12:23.28 | Hachiman | Speaking of cold asses |
12:23.30 | Hachiman | Hi Oluap |
12:23.35 | Methanogen | Of course, boron being not too common (I think, doesntbkit's unlikely really |
12:23.41 | Methanogen | *ignore that |
12:23.46 | OluapPlayer | hi |
12:23.51 | Methanogen | Hi btw |
12:24.21 | Methanogen | I was trying to say boron isn't that common because I think it misses out on being produced in stars or something but I could be wrong easily so I won't say that |
12:25.09 | Hachiman | Ghelae Methanogen: Would nitrogen-based xenobiochemistry *really* react negatively if exposed to selenium like that one movie claims |
12:25.20 | Methanogen | I have no clue |
12:25.38 | Methanogen | Let me see where they are in a periodic table and pretend that helps much |
12:25.39 | Ghelae | Possibly, but only for the same reason that selenium is poisonous to us. |
12:26.16 | Methanogen | It's in the same column as oxygen |
12:26.18 | Ghelae | The explanation given in the movie is wrong: arsenic is toxic to us because it displaces phosphorus (immediately above it in the periodic table), not because of it's relation to carbon. |
12:26.32 | Methanogen | So it'd replace oxygen which could cause issues Idk |
12:26.49 | Methanogen | Ah that makes sense I suppose |
12:27.07 | Ghelae | And on boron, yes; like halogen-using life, it will be rare. |
12:27.31 | Methanogen | Apparently there's such things as arsenosugars thoigh so I guess something uses it without dying possibly maybe idk |
12:27.35 | Methanogen | Yeah |
12:29.00 | Methanogen | Now I want to combine the silicon (one down from carbon) and nitrogen boron (on either side of carbon) things together and make ridiculous aluminium-phosphorus life |
12:29.14 | Hachiman | That sounds incredibly... strange |
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12:29.18 | Hachiman | Hi |
12:29.25 | Methanogen | Hi |
12:29.29 | Methanogen | Yeah... |
12:29.36 | Methanogen | I doubt it'd work but hey |
12:29.48 | Methanogen | It'd be exotic for sure |
12:30.26 | Hachiman | I mean, it's the Fictionverse; we can overlook *some* inaccuracies for the sake of fiction |
12:31.00 | Methanogen | I'd say if you can explain and justify it and sound like you know what you're talking about and make it appear as if it'd work you can use it |
12:31.21 | Methanogen | So long as it's not ridiculous in terms of power or something |
12:32.04 | Methanogen | I could be wrong though I am new |
12:32.09 | Ghelae | Silicon-based life is dodgy because of the size of silicon atoms; only when mixed with small atoms like carbon and oxygen it should be fine, so I think that might be one reason why Al-P wouldn't work. |
12:32.39 | Methanogen | True |
12:33.13 | Ghelae | I don't think there's any reason for Al-P life to be overpowered, however. |
12:33.17 | Methanogen | I think by the point of beryllium-oxygen life they've gone too far in either direction to react with each other very well anyway...so can't extend it out that way much |
12:33.18 | Methanogen | True |
12:33.35 | Methanogen | It'd be unusual but not any more powerful than carbon based life probably worse in fact |
12:34.21 | Ghelae | Beryllium-oxygen chains aren't going to work because they have no electrons left for side groups. |
12:34.33 | Methanogen | Ah |
12:34.53 | Methanogen | I've got to see what the most ridiculous thing I can make is now |
12:35.00 | Methanogen | That might possibly doubtfully ever work |
12:35.26 | Ghelae | Ionic compounds can make complex molecules like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteropoly_acid and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxometalate |
12:36.05 | Methanogen | Thallium-bismuth life it seems is the most extreme I can go without radioactivity (one element away from polonium) |
12:36.11 | Ghelae | But otherwise, you're pretty much restricted to the first three periods because steric effects and decreased electronegativity will prevent you from forming complex molecules. |
12:36.37 | Methanogen | Oh yeah I forgot about transition metals possibly maybe doing a thing idk |
12:36.38 | Methanogen | True |
12:36.58 | Ghelae | And with thallium-bismuth you'll be dealing with an alloy, not macromolecule. |
12:37.03 | Methanogen | Still, there's a lot of room for variation even within such parameters |
12:37.37 | Ghelae | Even gallium-arsenic is... gallium arsenide, a semiconductor. |
12:38.06 | Methanogen | I guess indium-antimony is the furthest I could go then |
12:38.08 | Methanogen | Hmmmm I see |
12:39.03 | Methanogen | Still, things can react differently in different pressure, temperature, etc though I never really thought any of this would work, I'm just doing it to see what the worst I can come up with is |
12:40.38 | Methanogen | A lifeform which uses CLi4 instead of liquid methane as a solvent would be impossible I bet and horrible even if the rarity weren't up against the most common element in the universe |
12:41.48 | Methanogen | Lead based life would be ridiculous really but at least immune to lead poisoning |
12:43.44 | Methanogen | Hmmmm...if we can have sulfuric acid as a solvent...why not go the opposite extreme and use sodium hydroxide? |
12:44.31 | Methanogen | I should probably stop being ridiculous now |
12:46.33 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: https://s3.amazonaws.com/AZComics/comic503.png |
12:46.48 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
12:46.48 | Ghelae | Lead-based life suffers from the metallic bonding problem... but NaOH as a solvent only needs temperatures > 318 C, so it's not too terrible an idea. |
12:47.05 | Methanogen | Hmmm |
12:47.27 | Ghelae | It might, however, break apart any complex molecule you try to dissolve in it. |
12:47.39 | Methanogen | But wouldn't it dissolve anything complex enough to create life? Then again I did use sulfuricn acid |
12:48.05 | OluapPlayer | Also work on Borealis war |
12:48.13 | Ghelae | Sulfuric acid works because some silicon-based compounds can survive. |
12:48.17 | Methanogen | What's a less powerful base then? Ammonia I guess is a possible solvent maybe |
12:48.19 | Methanogen | Ah |
12:48.30 | Ghelae | Ammonia is fine. |
12:48.36 | Methanogen | And Yorchi are silicon based so they're fine....good to know they wouldn't die instantly |
12:48.58 | Ghelae | Well, that's the reason you put silicon-based into sulfuric-acid solvents: because that's what works. |
12:49.18 | Methanogen | Hmmmm...I've heard stuff about ideas of water being mixed with other liquids possibly maybe working |
12:49.19 | Methanogen | True |
12:50.19 | Technobliterator | I suppose I can do Borealis War today now my assignments are handed in |
12:51.12 | Methanogen | I wonder if it'd be possible to have an alcohol based organism, it's very unlikely though and I'm sure they'd all die in the name of resources |
12:52.15 | Ghelae | An alcohol solvent works, e.g. methanol. |
12:53.24 | Ghelae | "Alcohol-based" makes no sense because "based" refers to the chain of atoms while "alcohol" refers to a side-group or end-group. |
12:53.36 | Methanogen | It seems less likely than just ending up with a hydrocarbon |
12:53.52 | Methanogen | Apologies I meant using it as a solvent |
12:54.44 | Methanogen | As a base it'd be methane or ethane I think depending which is technically carbon based and probably awful |
12:57.16 | Methanogen | Gtg, nice talking |
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14:52.48 | Treebeard | Hello |
14:54.04 | Ghelae | Hi |
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16:04.07 | Monet | hi |
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16:11.08 | Wormydroid | Hi |
16:12.20 | Monet | hi |
16:12.44 | Wormydroid | Heh people complained my masters had too much science in it, when it is computer science |
16:13.17 | Wormydroid | Tbf a lot of people want to do software engineering / design |
16:13.39 | Wormydroid | So we got a software engineering workshop today |
16:14.06 | Wormydroid | Which is known for being dry |
16:14.18 | Wormydroid | Which is known for being dry |
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16:15.30 | dino82_ | hi |
16:15.53 | Wormydroid | Test |
16:16.22 | Wormydroid | Also was introduced to Euler integration for physics engines |
16:17.08 | Wormydroid | Hilarity ensues when the laws of thermodynamics are broken |
16:17.28 | Wormydroid | We've all of course, seen it in games |
16:19.03 | Wormydroid | Monet does your course use game engines? |
16:19.30 | Monet | It doesn't. |
16:20.41 | Wormydroid | My design degree and foundation degree used a bit of everythibg, 3D/animation graphics engines |
16:21.08 | Wormydroid | Game engines, after effects, photoshop, illustrator etc. |
16:23.09 | Wormydroid | Nice thibg is that its eady to usr these tools as a palette for projects |
16:27.12 | Monet | I've been given lessons in photoshop and after effects. |
16:27.19 | Wormydroid | Though making sure Unreal and Maya have the same sense of scale and axes is annoying |
16:27.21 | Monet | Also audition, premiere pro and Mudbox. |
16:27.49 | Wormydroid | Didn't use mudbox but we did use ZBrush |
16:28.24 | Wormydroid | I don't know why when we had mudbox and ZBrush controls are a pain |
16:31.43 | Monet | It was discussed why we're not getting Zbrush |
16:32.08 | Monet | Turns out the university would have had to pay about I think either £500 or £1000 per PC. |
16:32.25 | Wormydroid | Damn |
16:33.18 | Wormydroid | I don't know how my crappy fd college acquired, probably stolen |
16:33.44 | Wormydroid | You could be surprised how much that happens |
16:35.07 | Wormydroid | That was a depressing place |
16:35.30 | Wormydroid | Not the same college as the one I had my show you saw last year |
16:35.46 | Wormydroid | That was a million miles better |
16:35.47 | Monet | If it's anything like Photoshop piracy I don't imagine I would be. |
16:39.23 | Monet | Your college (at least the tiny part I saw) was rather nice. |
16:39.42 | Wormydroid | Yeah |
16:39.54 | Wormydroid | New College Nottingham |
16:41.01 | Wormydroid | Confetti was bleh |
16:41.14 | Wormydroid | Confetti was bleh |
16:41.24 | Wormydroid | That was behibd Antenna, which you visited |
16:42.04 | Wormydroid | Confetti *looks* nice but had financial and severe managerial issues |
16:42.37 | Wormydroid | My class was put in the basement with the mops abd buckets, literally |
16:42.44 | Monet | Ewwww |
16:43.01 | Wormydroid | Poor lightibg gave me eye strain |
16:43.55 | Wormydroid | And my lecturers were all made redundant and gave up on us, all but one, who managed to save the second year |
16:44.08 | Wormydroid | Yet I still got no feedback for my work |
16:44.23 | Wormydroid | And I was taught by seversl ex students |
16:44.56 | Wormydroid | That one lecturer really tried thoygh and I respect him |
16:46.29 | Wormydroid | Its been revealed that one of the executives at Cobfetti was fiddling with the books at the time, falsifing student marks and takibg money out if the college |
16:47.03 | Wormydroid | Colleges are cut throat businesses |
16:47.41 | Wormydroid | In the last year Central College and NCN merged while Confetti was bought out by Nottinam Trent uni |
16:49.15 | Wormydroid | I'm just glad to be behibd this chaos, which severly effected 2-3 years of my student life in the great University of Nottingham |
16:49.39 | Wormydroid | *before going to the |
16:50.46 | Wormydroid | Tk;Dr my course was nearly wrecked and the next one nearly wrecked again, by managerial disasters |
16:51.20 | Wormydroid | Glad I didn't get in debt for nothing |
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17:13.51 | Xho | Heck I didn't even notice someone vandalised my pages yesterday |
17:17.20 | Ghelae | Hi |
17:18.15 | Xho | Ad hi |
17:21.00 | Xho | And hi even |
17:22.24 | Xho | OluapPlayer Technobliterator: >tfw President Trump'Ahgloth |
17:22.39 | Xho | WE'RE GOING TO EAT A WALL |
17:25.09 | OluapPlayer | dumb |
17:25.23 | Xho | dats wat u get for electing a loron |
17:26.01 | Xho | I do feel the need for the Dominion to address the Gigaquadrant on Maknagrius' death though |
17:26.08 | Xho | It's pretty major for one of their heads to die |
17:26.43 | OluapPlayer | You can address it but you can't attack Borealis |
17:26.58 | Xho | I had ideas but not with Borealis |
17:27.06 | Xho | Well sort of actually but not in the verse of attacking |
17:27.14 | OluapPlayer | answer is non |
17:28.17 | Xho | The idea was that Krathazhrukhal requests an audience with the PCA and discusses what exactly he should take back from the universe since he lost Maknagrius, since the PCA answer is to tell him to go do one he goes elsewhere |
17:28.38 | OluapPlayer | Not gonna happen |
17:29.11 | Xho | I get the idea you don't want to do fiction with me whatsoever |
17:29.55 | OluapPlayer | I'm not doing fiction in Borealis beyond the war |
17:30.06 | Xho | hm makes sense |
17:30.30 | Xho | Fair enough, doesn't need to happen for other events to occur |
17:30.36 | Monet | Deadealis. |
17:31.04 | Xho | The actual idea is that in recompense for Maknagrius' death, Krathazhrukhal tears the Kicath a new one |
17:31.05 | OluapPlayer | Besides I'm allowed to refuse to participate in things |
17:31.32 | Xho | I now have a clause to get rid of the Kicath so thnx |
17:32.38 | Monet | Andromeda is at peace atm |
17:32.45 | Xho | Krath - does it look like I give a fuck |
17:32.50 | Monet | You could buttfuk the Kicath there |
17:33.48 | Xho | I still feel like having a dialogue with Krath so maybe with the PAE council instead |
17:34.01 | Xho | That would really confuse them |
17:34.05 | OluapPlayer | Borealis will also be at peace once the story is over, but at that point I'll no longer lead anything |
17:34.11 | OluapPlayer | I still have things to do in the Cyrannus war |
17:34.29 | Xho | PCA destroys Maknagrius -> Krath wants to talk to the PAE -> ??? -> Mass destruction |
17:34.51 | Xho | Looks like Tuuros will have to be put into use then |
17:35.23 | Monet | Well the PAE did have involvement in Mak's death |
17:35.34 | Xho | o rly |
17:35.38 | Xho | I didn't see any mention |
17:35.52 | Monet | Presumably at least. |
17:35.55 | OluapPlayer | The Draconis and Divinarium have been part of the allied fleet since the beginning |
17:35.59 | Xho | Krath - guilty by association a trillion lives then |
17:36.20 | OluapPlayer | They've probably shot at least a third of the rockets fired at Shu'suvreca |
17:36.44 | Monet | Dacia - That was a fun night out. |
17:36.48 | Xho | There was a point when I was gonna send the Dominion back into activity but then Cyrannian started up the War |
17:36.51 | Xho | I grumbled much |
17:37.17 | Monet | Xho: No reason you can't. |
17:37.31 | Monet | Much of the Xonexi Cluster is unaffected. |
17:37.49 | Xho | Hez - ohai |
17:38.28 | Xho | Strategically it would be a perfect time for the Dominion to suddenly start scouring again |
17:38.46 | Xho | Xonexi is economically and strategically strained despite not being affected much by the War |
17:39.15 | Xho | But then again we want a Gigaquadrant to work with |
17:39.36 | dino82_ | :D |
17:39.49 | Monet | Nor sure about strained |
17:40.07 | Monet | 2020 it's been over ten years since the last major conflict. |
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17:40.31 | Xho | rabut |
17:41.38 | Hachiman | shitcunt |
17:41.47 | Xho | Hez - http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/076/748/your-resistance-only-makes-my-penis-harder.jpg |
17:42.47 | OluapPlayer | Monet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8QjJ2uV0AAiWRj.jpg |
17:42.51 | dino82_ | the rambo might be drawn and interessted in Tuuros as well :D |
17:43.07 | Monet | Oluaplayer: Lol |
17:43.29 | Xho | Hachiman: We're currently discussing probabilities of Xonexi getting fucked by the Dominion as payback for Maknagrius' death |
17:43.46 | Hachiman | That'd be cool |
17:43.52 | Hachiman | Hachi should get involved maybe |
17:44.04 | Xho | Hez - fukn nacho hachos |
17:44.24 | OluapPlayer | Hachi decides to go back to his happy place where lives in a fantasy world with a cute elf witch |
17:45.03 | Hachiman | I can imagine that the result of Maknagrius' death being a large-scale, intergalactic attack from the Dominion, resulting in uncounted quadrillions dying, will be bad press for Hachi's renown and popularity |
17:45.21 | Xho | Santorakh - >tfw koldenwelt is but a speck in Insomnia kek |
17:45.34 | OluapPlayer | That's stupid |
17:45.48 | OluapPlayer | Maknagrius' death was required for Borealis to not be turned into a living hellhole |
17:45.58 | OluapPlayer | And it'd have happened even if Hachi wasn't there |
17:46.04 | Xho | Well instead of Borealis, Andromeda gets it |
17:46.14 | Xho | because Xhodocto don't give a fuck |
17:47.57 | Hachiman | Not Milky Way and Andromeda? |
17:48.08 | Xho | yeah sure why not |
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17:49.32 | Wormy_ | hi |
17:49.32 | Xho | It's been a few in-universe years since the Dominion did shit anyway |
17:49.34 | Xho | Hi |
17:50.16 | Wormy_ | Yeah, the way they're acting small time empires have caused more death and detruction in the intervening years |
17:50.42 | Xho | Hez - >tfw you don't need to do your job because others are doing your job for you |
17:50.53 | Xho | "The Mahanayan Dream" |
17:51.46 | Xho | I wonder what that event would be called |
17:51.53 | Wormy_ | true |
17:51.57 | Xho | I had the name 'Sundering of Xonexi' but I'm open for suggestions |
17:53.08 | Hachiman | Tsundereing of Xonexi |
17:53.20 | Xho | Santorakh - ORE WA OCHINCHIN GA DAISUKI NANDAYO |
17:53.42 | Monet | Tolling of the Bells |
17:54.34 | Hachiman | That sounds like a marriage thing |
17:54.41 | Xho | https://youtu.be/6pbKB2TL3Jk?t=1m17s Santorakh, 2821 |
17:54.52 | Hachiman | Hez'Kalka - I KNOW PRONOUNCE YOU HUSBAND AND DEAD |
17:55.26 | Hachiman | *now |
17:55.52 | Monet | http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/for-whom-the-bell-tolls.html |
17:56.43 | Xho | There's a good Meshuggah song that describes the Dominion's reaction to this |
17:56.53 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JpvfKUM6Hs |
17:59.49 | Xho | OluapPlayer: What exactly becomes of the Kondrakar now that Mak is Mak'd |
18:00.02 | Wormy_ | Are the Dominion comin to fuk shit up |
18:00.23 | OluapPlayer | As said in the section, they sacrificed themselves to create the Eternal Wound |
18:00.25 | Hachiman | The Kondrakar all sacrificed themselves |
18:00.27 | OluapPlayer | There are no more Kondrakar |
18:00.32 | Xho | Fuck I'm forgetting these things |
18:00.35 | Hachiman | A race-wide mass sacrifice / suicide |
18:01.02 | Xho | no moar snek |
18:01.11 | Xho | Yeah that's a big loss to the Dominion |
18:01.50 | Monet | Maleus - A few pyres are needed |
18:02.58 | Xho | Possibilities are now that the Xhodocto will elect another force to replace Maknagrius in order to restore power |
18:03.20 | Xho | Quite likely Tuuros' own branch of the Xhodocto's influence |
18:04.29 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eveK7v2cX80 |
18:04.33 | Xho | Vulusc N'naluk is the name given to its head |
18:04.43 | Xho | Sethzak being the actual head but a Xhodocto cannot sit on the Circle |
18:05.22 | Xho | Well he can but it would be a massive power imbalance considering Sethzak is basically Silver Angazhar |
18:06.08 | Monet | Yeah a bit of an imbalance |
18:06.34 | Monet | Perhaps in terms of commanders... |
18:06.57 | Monet | Kitoruka/Hez hit the Kicath, Maleus hits the DI. |
18:09.10 | Xho | Kithworto - now hold on just a fucking second |
18:09.50 | Xho | I'm not sure how long Kithworto has been missing for now |
18:10.25 | Monet | "a long-ass time" |
18:11.52 | Xho | It was around the same time as Da Reckoning happened |
18:11.54 | Wormy_ | I just realised Mister Gutsys and Mister Handys look like legless Grimbolsaurians. |
18:12.03 | Xho | So 10 yaers |
18:12.03 | Monet | so 9-10 years |
18:12.05 | Xho | years |
18:12.08 | Xho | yeh |
18:12.44 | Xho | Kithworto returns to find out the Kicath never existed in Borealis and half of the Gigaquadrant is up in flames "lolwut" |
18:12.49 | Hachiman | Hachi - where da FUK hav u been Kithworto - vaycay lol |
18:13.29 | Xho | Before I do that I need to finish Eschaton |
18:13.34 | Xho | How to do it though |
18:14.58 | Xho | It's a bit difficult to do it without rps so summarising is hard |
18:17.08 | Xho | This is the part where people start being helpful |
18:17.38 | Monet | What's helped me is at least working out what two characters would discuss |
18:17.56 | Hachiman | Hm |
18:18.06 | Monet | RPs are hard to do these days but discussing fiction isn't. |
18:19.20 | Xho | Well the last section ended that the Warriors of Dar-Nahalant would split up and muster armies to their cause to combat the Shiarchon |
18:19.30 | Xho | So I guess they need to be written down |
18:24.04 | Wormy_ | This is pretty interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_UB-85 |
18:24.27 | Wormy_ | c the cryptozoology and wreck sections |
18:25.04 | Xho | Subs freak me out |
18:26.16 | Wormy_ | the captain reported "large eyes, set in a horny sort of skull", adding: "It had a small head, but with teeth that could be seen glistening in the moonlight. |
18:26.29 | Xho | wendigo |
18:26.49 | OluapPlayer | pea-head steve |
18:28.53 | Wormy_ | Given that if this was a creature, it prowled the Irish sea, meaning its kind still might |
18:29.05 | Wormy_ | and thyat's too close for comfort hur |
18:39.14 | DrodoEmpire | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH |
18:39.23 | OluapPlayer | wut |
18:39.25 | DrodoEmpire | THEY SAID THE NEXT TOTAL WAR WOULD BE HISTORICAL |
18:39.30 | DrodoEmpire | ITS WARHAMMER II |
18:39.38 | DrodoEmpire | I AM A N G E R Y |
18:39.41 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
18:39.44 | OluapPlayer | >implying orcs didn't exist |
18:39.48 | OluapPlayer | get a load o' dis git |
18:39.53 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
18:40.02 | DrodoEmpire | Nah I was just hoping it was another historical title |
18:40.14 | DrodoEmpire | WH II will be fun once I get a new rig thoug |
18:41.16 | Monet | Knife-ears and furries yay! |
18:41.35 | Xho | die |
19:03.27 | DrodoEmpire | oh |
19:03.28 | DrodoEmpire | dino ded |
19:05.36 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Discontent_of_the_Gods Krath's barter skill is 0 |
19:09.51 | OluapPlayer | he really liked that snake eh |
19:10.20 | Xho | Krath oversees the Corruptus in a vague light and Maknagrius was a very powerful force in Borealis |
19:10.25 | Xho | So he's quite pissed that he's lost a foothold |
19:11.02 | Xho | That being said he didn't care if the Corruptus ate Borealis whole but he still wants his money back |
19:11.34 | Xho | And I liked Maknagrius as a character so rip snek |
19:12.45 | Xho | That being said it's a rare day a Xhodocto offers a bargain for clemency |
19:14.07 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Oh, I wasn't going to tell you about aliens even more alien in the Xeelee Sequence than the Photino Birds |
19:14.38 | Hachiman | Oh? |
19:15.40 | Wormy_ | During the age of Hama Druz (post-Qax era), humanity was trying to eliminate the past and went on a search for the immortal pharoes |
19:16.21 | Wormy_ | One was living on Callisto, and when he was discovered he demonstrated the existence of some unassuming bacteria |
19:17.15 | Hachiman | Huh |
19:17.30 | Wormy_ | Because Callisto is a very cold world, the bacteria had adapted to reproduce and metabolise over long time scales. However, the Pharaoh said "life always finds a way to play" |
19:18.50 | Wormy_ | The bacteria could manipulate the quantum numbers of electron shells, and grew "orthogonal" to the universe.. They were actually a very complex and intelligent organism, but lived in an ullterly bizzare projection of the universe |
19:19.47 | Wormy_ | The Pharoah was trying to transfer his consciousness into a virtual reality modelled on the projection, a "configuration space". Of course the Xeelee turned up |
19:20.33 | Wormy_ | But Callisto was pushed nearly light speed into a new orbit, stunning the Xeelee drone and trapping it inside Callisto's core |
19:21.46 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Timonax - i mean i got like a goat here if you want that dude |
19:22.14 | Wormy_ | I have a feeling Baxter based this idea on rhe robotocist's concept of conducting a fourier transform on the universe to look for complexities orthogonal to our sense of spacetime. Such aliens would appear highly non-local to us and are far more bizzare than even dark matter aliens |
19:22.14 | Xho | Krath - BITCH I RAPE ZEUS LIKE A SWAN |
19:22.23 | DrodoEmpire | Timonax - >: |
19:22.29 | Wormy_ | *roboticist Hans Moravec's |
19:31.20 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: I have a complete list of aliens this far http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AWormulon/Stuff#Species |
19:33.32 | Wormy_ | thus |
19:33.57 | Hachiman | Oh cool |
19:34.34 | DrodoEmpire | *complete list of ayy lmaos |
19:36.04 | Monet | I like how the ship in ME: ANdromeda is named The Tempest |
19:36.53 | Monet | I see nothing wrong with naming a ship after a story about a crazy old wizard and his of-age daughter on a paradise island. |
19:37.52 | DrodoEmpire | lul |
19:41.31 | Monet | Also said crazy old man uses his magic to shipwreck a guy on his island and have his magic and daughter seducing him so she can become a duchess. |
19:45.42 | Monet | Suddenly I wonder if Terra Firma was secretly part of the Initiative |
19:47.21 | Monet | Then again from what I gather much of Terra Firma is about as competent and well-liked and as the BNP |
19:47.58 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: ayy caramba http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Humans_are_Among_Us.jpg |
19:51.06 | Xho | not ayysthetic |
19:56.30 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
20:15.07 | Monet | Xho: I thought of another option |
20:15.22 | Monet | Arsac and her Black Inquisition ,which are Corruptus forces |
20:18.18 | Xho | aye |
20:23.43 | Hachiman | Hachi - boi |
20:29.12 | Monet | HAchi vs Arsac fight |
20:29.52 | OluapPlayer | giant dragon gets kicked about by bipedal hare person |
20:30.06 | Hachiman | Hachi - wouldnt be the first time |
20:30.44 | Hachiman | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Steel_of_the_Plagued_Land#Chapter_7:_Hyena.27s_Grin |
20:30.49 | Xho | That made me laugh more than it should have |
20:30.51 | Xho | ah |
20:32.54 | Xho | Speaking of which I have a friend who apparently has a WoW character called Anklebiter |
20:33.31 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
20:33.47 | OluapPlayer | If he plays a goblin then the planets have aligned |
20:33.56 | Xho | She does |
20:34.06 | OluapPlayer | wew |
20:34.25 | OluapPlayer | In that case she also has shit taste since goblins are the worst WoW race |
20:34.32 | OluapPlayer | goblins more like lame'ins |
20:35.33 | Hachiman | I also tried a new thing to try and make Steel sections easier to read, hopefully |
20:35.48 | Hachiman | Incidentally they still take fucking hours to write |
20:36.49 | OluapPlayer | Yes, that rp kinda took 8 hours to do |
20:36.59 | OluapPlayer | Granted there were connection issues halfway through |
20:37.06 | Xho | y tho |
20:37.17 | OluapPlayer | Because Hachi writes at the speed of snail |
20:37.51 | Xho | wow |
20:37.53 | Xho | tru |
20:37.57 | Xho | Also, HAWT DOG WOMAN |
20:38.09 | Hachiman | Aye |
20:39.34 | Xho | "She could only groan as her intestines now dangled near her knees" not aesthetic |
20:41.48 | Xho | https://youtu.be/tw429JGL5zo?t=10s Mivtanreior's Theme |
20:42.33 | OluapPlayer | hur |
20:42.34 | Hachiman | >censored version |
20:42.46 | Xho | Couldn't find the proper one |
20:43.02 | Hachiman | I gotta say |
20:43.11 | Hachiman | I was genuinely sad writing about Khara getting disembowled |
20:43.34 | Xho | "Bilrika - ... Wait a sec. You're telling me she's a hyena woman... who can turn into a hyena woman?" inbft Weremeta |
20:44.02 | Xho | That's like a guy morphing into a gorilla |
20:44.05 | Hachiman | hawt weredogdog |
20:46.13 | Xho | "There was little left of what could be called her face, having been shredded and singed away to reveal blackened, charred muscle and some underlying bone and skull fragments." |
20:46.15 | Xho | not so much |
20:47.54 | Xho | Well that was a cool section |
20:48.02 | Xho | hawtdog got fukin fokt m8 |
20:48.30 | Hachiman | aye |
20:48.35 | Hachiman | Glad you liked it |
20:48.56 | Xho | Makes me ashamed that I haven't done any more to my stories |
20:49.17 | OluapPlayer | then get to work dingolong |
20:49.26 | Xho | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHk |
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20:50.46 | AtsyBoi | Hi |
20:52.17 | Xho | Hi |
20:52.32 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I forgot that Maximilianus is a void magic dude |
20:52.49 | OluapPlayer | Being a Shiarchon, persumably |
20:53.16 | Xho | aye |
21:00.36 | Xho | So I was just told that the wallpaper we have on a feature wall in our dining room is a discontinued Fornasetti wallpaper |
21:00.47 | Hachiman | Oh fuck |
21:00.50 | Xho | Basically it means the wall itself is worth £3000 |
21:01.02 | Hachiman | Do it |
21:01.08 | Xho | SELL THE WALL, OPEN THE ROOM |
21:01.41 | Xho | When it was actually put on there it was worth ten times less |
21:04.07 | Xho | Okay the internet is failing miserably |
21:04.36 | Hachiman | ech |
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21:11.39 | Xho | ohai |
21:12.16 | Hachiman | Hi |
21:15.01 | Xho | ebin |
21:18.47 | Cyrannian | Hai |
21:21.18 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
21:21.18 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
21:21.27 | Cyrannian | ~hug OluapPlayer |
21:21.27 | infobot | ACTION sneaks up on OluapPlayer and suddenly hugs OluapPlayer tightly |
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21:25.01 | Methanogen | Hello |
21:27.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
21:28.28 | Methanogen | Hi Drodo, how are you going? |
21:29.05 | DrodoEmpire | I'm good, and you? |
21:30.05 | Methanogen | Good as well |
21:30.53 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
21:30.57 | Methanogen | Still figuring out history and trying to figure out how to create a story out of stuff |
21:34.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm alright |
21:35.43 | Methanogen | As it turns out, for me at least, creating a history for an entire species is a little difficult, especially the "making it interesting" part |
21:35.59 | DrodoEmpire | Absolutely yeah |
21:36.21 | DrodoEmpire | If that's the only part you're missing, then I'd leave it and begin doing fiction stuff to be honest |
21:36.56 | Methanogen | I suppose it had no particularly major impact on fiction at this stage |
21:37.46 | Methanogen | Someone advised me to do it last for that very reason, because in term terms of actually writing fiction it's a lot of work and not as important as a lot of other stuff for new empires anyway |
21:38.05 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
21:38.08 | DrodoEmpire | I said that! <.< |
21:38.39 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8M3zb8W0AI6XAH.jpg:large ð |
21:39.13 | Methanogen | Haha |
21:39.37 | Methanogen | And you did? Apologies for forgetting it was you in that case, I tend to remember advice but not always where it came from |
21:40.44 | DrodoEmpire | Nah its alright lol |
21:41.10 | Methanogen | So, I suppose I should try develop a fiction in that case |
21:41.20 | Methanogen | And write the history as inspiration comes to me |
21:41.23 | DrodoEmpire | We could begin collabing perhaps |
21:41.29 | DrodoEmpire | Only if you wish to, though |
21:41.54 | Methanogen | I'm interstingin collabing |
21:42.02 | Methanogen | *interested in |
21:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
21:42.58 | Methanogen | So, if we're are collabing, what are we going to do for the fiction? |
21:44.19 | AtsyBoi | WAIT |
21:44.30 | AtsyBoi | Can I join the collab? |
21:45.22 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno, probably not I'm afraid. |
21:45.35 | DrodoEmpire | Unless you have a really good fiction with a reason to be there >.< |
21:45.41 | Methanogen | I don't know this stuff very well |
21:45.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its alright, we can work on it |
21:46.07 | DrodoEmpire | I think we -were- discussing a first contact fiction between the Drodo and Yorchi? |
21:46.37 | Methanogen | I believe so yeah |
21:47.37 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
21:47.44 | DrodoEmpire | We might wanna move this to a piratepad |
21:47.58 | Methanogen | I see |
21:48.46 | AtsyBoi | ah |
21:48.47 | AtsyBoi | ok |
22:24.57 | Cyrannian | ded irc rip |
22:26.33 | OluapPlayer | Nothing to talk about |
22:26.51 | Cyrannian | I made my Heleanorian guy if you didn't see |
22:27.24 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3ANils_Agmaer |
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23:10.43 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:15.52 | Monet | I'd be more concerned with the circumstances that led to such an act |
23:17.20 | Wormy_ | Well, she had a last party on the square and was tired and tucked into bed. Her daughter went downstairs to have a brandy, meanwhile she woke up, forget everything, made a bath and played a CD that was bought for her |
23:18.00 | Wormy_ | There wasn't many around because Mick (Danny Dyer)'s daughter was runnover in Bulgaria, so he got the first flight |
23:18.13 | Wormy_ | ASnd the family had seriious misfortune and were weary |
23:19.10 | Wormy_ | Also in the same episode: Iain Beale's chippy got smashed after Michelle crashed into it, looking for her 17 year old boyfriend (she was 47) and the truth had just got out |
23:19.26 | Xho | k den |
23:19.38 | Wormy_ | She swerved around her boyfriend |
23:19.59 | cyrabot | That often happens to me |
23:20.03 | Wormy_ | Part and package with the drama and misery of Eastenders |
23:20.50 | Wormy_ | Said 17 year old is also American, which is weird |
23:21.09 | cyrabot | Is emmerdale the one with Dot? |
23:21.14 | Wormy_ | and stalks her, while using her neice as a weapon |
23:21.21 | Wormy_ | Dot's in Eastenders |
23:21.31 | cyrabot | She's my favourite |
23:21.40 | Xho | Cyrabot: "Tyrómairon: Your fall will be celebrated for centuries to come." that's where you're wrong kiddo |
23:21.53 | Wormy_ | Yeah Dot's lovable but an endless tragicomedy |
23:21.55 | cyrabot | I have a soft spot for the elderly |
23:22.05 | Wormy_ | only because you eat them |
23:22.14 | cyrabot | how rude |
23:22.21 | cyrabot | Only their cats and cars |
23:22.29 | Wormy_ | Well how is a fried demented lady? |
23:22.36 | Xho | Quite so |
23:22.51 | Xho | Apparently June Brown who plays Dot is contracted to play Dot until this year |
23:22.55 | Xho | So expect an exit |
23:23.14 | cyrabot | dunt even say it |
23:23.20 | Wormy_ | I will legitimately cry |
23:23.55 | cyrabot | I hope she goes out in a blaze of glory, saving the east end from non believers |
23:23.59 | Wormy_ | Dot almost had a car crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2FKGNSWzg |
23:24.14 | Wormy_ | heart was in my mouth |
23:24.52 | Wormy_ | Ooh here's Michelle crashing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNBotb_fwSc |
23:24.53 | cyrabot | I like how the people passing don't care |
23:25.29 | Monet | London |
23:25.48 | Wormy_ | Monet: And there's goes Silvie, the demented lady https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD4UMo4kX4c |
23:26.18 | Monet | Commuters in London tend to go on autopilot during their journeys. |
23:26.47 | Monet | There were stories that even as the 7/7 situation was going on there were commuters who were entering the affected train stations. |
23:27.23 | Cyrannian | My favourite character in Emmerdale is the super religious old lady in the hat |
23:28.40 | Cyrannian | Oh dear, according to her wikipedia page, she's dead |
23:28.59 | Monet | SO your favourite character is dead. |
23:29.36 | Xho | lol |
23:29.59 | Wormy_ | Emmerdale did a massive kill off that rivalled anything in Eastenders |
23:30.04 | Cyrannian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edna_Birch - rip old lady whose name I never cared to know |
23:30.12 | Wormy_ | Huge piule up killed a third of the cast lol |
23:31.04 | Wormy_ | Shortly after Eastenders did a bus crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3Q2iQGgDFI |
23:32.18 | Cyrannian | "oh a bunch of main characters, better die and swerve" |
23:32.28 | Wormy_ | Bus driver had a heart attack |
23:32.43 | Wormy_ | had to be in the square though |
23:33.00 | Wormy_ | Even though you never see busses go through it |
23:33.44 | Cyrannian | I also remember the tram crash in Coronation Street |
23:33.45 | Wormy_ | Best thing was when Bobby Beale was revealed to have killed Lucy and then brained his adopted mother with a hockey stick |
23:33.52 | Monet | Transport for London set up a new line it seems |
23:34.25 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGrxqpTDy9Q |
23:36.17 | Wormy_ | Another good scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atmq_thS6eI |
23:36.27 | Wormy_ | Well, "good" |
23:36.34 | Wormy_ | I dunno I like Eastenders |
23:36.54 | Wormy_ | Its good to saee all the death and destruction befall people |
23:37.06 | Cyrannian | I wasn't expecting the blood splatter |
23:38.45 | Cyrannian | Did they reveal why he killed Lucy? |
23:41.30 | Wormy_ | Because he's a psycho |
23:42.12 | Wormy_ | He got angry and hit her over the head with a heavy object |
23:42.33 | Wormy_ | Iain and his wife hid it |
23:43.07 | Cyrannian | I thought she fell off a building or something |
23:43.09 | Wormy_ | And blamed it on Max Branning, who's now out and plotting against the entire square |
23:43.36 | Wormy_ | That was Max Branning's son |
23:43.43 | Wormy_ | going years back now |
23:44.04 | Cyrannian | jeez how many murderous children are in that show |
23:44.19 | Wormy_ | Everyone's murderous |
23:44.35 | Wormy_ | The only good character is Mick (Danny Dyer), who is living in an utter hell |
23:45.07 | Wormy_ | I like how he's the only film actor in this lol |
23:47.33 | DrodoEmpire | What even is eastenders? |
23:47.53 | DrodoEmpire | It sounds like this really ubiquitous, trashy British soap opera |
23:48.09 | DrodoEmpire | (Well, corny perhaps) |
23:48.26 | Wormy_ | his wife got raped, bus ceiling is collapsing, he's in debt paying off his son's debt, who happens to be a depressed maniac who staged a robbery in the vic and now turns out to be a wife beater, and now he demented grandmother dies in the bath the same day his daughter is run over |
23:48.34 | Wormy_ | *raped by his brother |
23:48.53 | DrodoEmpire | Well o,O |
23:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | *o.O |
23:49.15 | Wormy_ | It is a "trashy" soap opera, though with quite good funding and acting. |
23:49.44 | Wormy_ | It is notable for havinf somer of the most miserable plots |
23:49.49 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh hur |
23:50.18 | DrodoEmpire | I think about the most exciting thing that's ever happened on "Corner Gas" is when Brent and Hank retook their old treehouse from a bunch of bb-gun toting teenagers <.< |
23:50.37 | DrodoEmpire | "Corner Gas" being a rough equivalent, as a sorta lowkey Canadian sitcom of sorts |
23:52.29 | Monet | Grange Hill, a secondary school set drama/soap was pretty fark as well |
23:52.45 | Monet | I think they've had at least one "character driven to suicide" episodes. |
23:54.20 | Wormy_ | Drodo: Eastenders has funny scenes too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdWa3AKsZac |
23:54.36 | Wormy_ | That's an old one |
23:56.01 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Ubiquitous trashy British soap opera is right on the money |
23:56.06 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
23:56.09 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: olol |
23:56.37 | Monet | Character - I have to tell you [big revelation] *Eastenders theme plays* |
23:56.43 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
23:56.48 | Wormy_ | With a budget to make trailers like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQS_LfDxe40 |
23:57.02 | Monet | Seriously that's how a lot of episodes end. |
23:57.07 | Wormy_ | Also I don't know how many times I've seen a haracter get in a speeding car and kill someone |
23:57.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Corner Gas, by comparison, is genuinely a pretty decent show >.< |
23:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | It was fucking -beloved- during its run |
23:57.39 | Wormy_ | I'm a Eastenders fan so I find it pretty descent, the characters are great to watch |
23:57.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh I see |
23:57.59 | Wormy_ | But I acknoiwledge its also pretty trashy |
23:58.12 | DrodoEmpire | So a bit of a guilty pleasure lol |
23:58.32 | Wormy_ | I have a similar guilty pleasure out of watching Jeremy Kyle |
23:58.41 | DrodoEmpire | It had a very quintessentially Canadian sense of humour and feel about it-- very inoffensive humour (the strongest word spoken was "jackass!"), but it was also very, -very- dry and well-paced |
23:58.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh fair |
23:59.11 | Monet | "jackass" is tame in British vernacular. |
23:59.17 | DrodoEmpire | Same over here |
23:59.41 | Monet | I think Phil Mitchell has on occasion gone on F-rants. |
23:59.59 | Monet | Though I don't watch the show like Wormy does. |