IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170327

00:02.08MonetI might discuss with Imperios later but I had a thought on one setion of this cartel
00:03.02Monet"ailor-made superadvanced bionics created for the wealthiest people on Praestol: golden-plated, encrusted with gems" I slightly wonder if they do act as trendsetters - providing one style for customers that they feel is sub-par compared to personal implants.
00:03.49Monethttps://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2016/05/09/a43f54e2-a8e7-47b2-806c-20385a00e9b3/a43f54e2-a8e7-47b2-806c-20385a00e9b3_16x9_788x442.jpg - this is for the customers
00:04.04Monethttp://images.adsttc.com/media/images/5272/d474/e8e4/4ef4/c200/0789/large_jpg/ZHA_B_V_Sideview_90m.jpg?1383257129 - this is for their own
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00:27.53Monethi
00:28.49TybusenHello
00:29.17Wormy_I hate it getting to 1:28 in the morning and I;m messing around with figures and references.  Bed plz
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04:25.43Methanogenhello
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06:16.06MethanogenHello
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07:14.16MethanogenHello everyone
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07:16.58WormydroidHi
07:18.18MethanogenAh hi there
07:18.26MethanogenWhat've you been up to?
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07:19.26MethanogenHi
07:20.03MethanogenI've just been making technology sections for my fictions
07:22.43WormydroidHad a BBQ and fire ladt night
07:22.49WormydroidCool
07:23.08MethanogenAh sounds good
07:23.32MethanogenI hope they make sense and aren't incomprehensible
07:29.45MethanogenI have to go
07:32.31WormydroidBye
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08:45.41GhelaeHello.
08:48.18HachimanHu
08:48.21HachimanHi*
08:48.25HachimanNgh I keep missing Wormy
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10:50.00NeonPandahi all
10:50.12HachimanHi
10:53.46GhelaeHi
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11:00.22MethanogenGreetings
11:00.40GhelaeHi
11:01.08MethanogenHow are you going?
11:01.47HachimanHi
11:01.51HachimanDoing fine
11:01.56GhelaeI'm all right; how about you?
11:02.35HachimanHow's your stuff coming along, Meth?
11:02.44MethanogenThat's good, I'm pretty good as well, recently worked on my technology sections
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11:03.33cyrabotHi
11:04.24GhelaeHi
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11:04.46MethanogenSorry about that
11:04.52HachimanAll good
11:05.07MethanogenAccidentally pressed an ad, that's what I get for using the irc page instead of doing it properly
11:05.20MethanogenSo yeah, I'd like to think my stuff is coming along well but I can never be sure
11:05.30HachimanYou tried using AdBlock?
11:05.56MethanogenCan't use that on this device
11:06.01HachimanAh, right
11:06.14MethanogenIt's not usually an issue
11:08.09MethanogenI've been wondering, what's the best way to actually get in to the fiction universe in terms of actually having a fiction? Do you make a first contact scenario thing or just make a fiction or jump into someone else's or something totally different?
11:08.31HachimanWell
11:09.09HachimanHm, that's a difficult question
11:09.29MethanogenIs it situation dependent?
11:11.05HachimanI think it's really a combination of talking to the people whose fiction you're interested in having your own fiction make contact with and... hm
11:11.47MethanogenI can understand it's a difficult query given how many possibilities there are and such
11:12.37MethanogenActually, how did you first get involved with fiction stuff?
11:12.51HachimanThat's what I'm trying to remember
11:13.00HachimanI've been here for so long
11:13.15MethanogenAh so you've been here for a very long time
11:14.30HachimanHonestly, in the most basic sense, a combination of talking to other people if you have an interest in their fiction and they have an interest in your own, doing your own solo writing to give insights into what your fiction is about and the characters and themes involved in it, and looking for opportunity like collaborative fiction
11:14.37HachimanWhich can be a bit difficult to come by
11:14.48MethanogenI see so lots of stuff involved
11:14.55MethanogenWell I hear there's a war nowhere near me
11:15.07HachimanIt's difficult to explain but it's honestly simple in practice
11:15.33MethanogenSo basically find a person who is interested and make something
11:15.46HachimanBasically; doesn't even have to be a war, either
11:15.52HachimanOr nothing so large-scale]
11:15.57MethanogenTrue
11:16.13HachimanIn recent times, smaller-scale stories have actually been taking some more prominence if that makes things any easier
11:16.24MethanogenHonestly just a first contact situation would work well for either of my fiction probably given their somewhat exotic natures
11:16.35HachimanYeah, that's fine
11:17.04MethanogenPeered another question for you: what's the worst mistake you've seen newbies make and how do you avoid it? I ask so I can avoid it basically
11:17.12Methanogen*heres not peered
11:17.44MethanogenAnd I apologise for asking heaps of questions all the time
11:23.09GhelaeBad mistakes that I can think of include not reading the fiction guidelines, not asking before jumping into stories, not participating in community discussions such as those on IRC... basically, not doing things that you've already done.
11:23.40GhelaeIf you somehow manage to do something badly wrong, we'll tell you.
11:23.44Methanogen<PROTECTED>
11:24.00MethanogenThanks, I'll try to avoid it as much as possible
11:24.13HachimanIt's all good
11:24.33HachimanLike I said, you're one of the better things we've had; we get a LOT of people make a LOT of mistakes right off the bat
11:24.47HachimanAnd it's good you managed to avoid all the stuff that could go wrong
11:24.52MethanogenThat's kind of a shame
11:24.55MethanogenI'm glad I did
11:25.29MethanogenI guess just reading the rules may have been a major issue in some cases?
11:26.01GhelaeI think so.
11:26.51MethanogenAnd I'm sure you probably had problems with a lot of people wanting omnipotence and stuff like that
11:27.16MethanogenI can remember the rules mentioning already having too much of that stuff
11:28.19GhelaeIt happens, but usually people who are like that don't get involved, and then get bored quickly, so their fiction never actually touches the collaborative fiction universe.
11:28.40MethanogenAh that makes sense
11:28.59MethanogenI've tired to make my fictions fairly not too powerful
11:29.04Methanogen*tried
11:30.46MethanogenMy focus is on making stuff interesting anyway not really in making it powerful
11:31.18HachimanYeah, that's good
11:31.21HachimanWe like that
11:32.13MethanogenI just hope my fiction is actually decently interesting, or will be at some point
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11:33.10MethanogenHello
11:33.29MethanogenI wonder if next time it'll be Plasmatic_Ink
11:34.43Gaseous_InkI once tried to make it "Bose-Entsein_Condensate_Ink" but the nicknames can't be that long
11:35.17MethanogenAh that's a shame
11:35.27MethanogenNow I'm wondering what variations I can make out of my name
11:35.52HachimanOh so Methan- is methane
11:36.03MethanogenYep
11:36.20MethanogenA methanogen is an organism that exhales methane or something like that
11:36.54HachimanSo, essentially farts all the time
11:36.55GhelaeThe "-gen" part means "making", so methanogen = methane-making.
11:37.00MethanogenWhich none of my fictions actually are now that I think about it
11:37.04MethanogenYep that makes sense
11:37.58MethanogenWell I guess maybe Eriaroon farts have methane in them- nevermind I don't think they even fart
11:38.39GhelaeThat would just imply that there are some methanogenic microbes in their digestive systems.
11:39.13MethanogenThere probably are in there somewhere I haven't figured out the very exact specifics of their digestive tracts and such
11:39.54MethanogenYorchi will end up having Sulfur farts probably which I'd imagine would be rather obnoxious to many species now that I consider it
11:40.41HachimanThat sounds... incredibly putrid
11:41.25MethanogenThey drink sulphuric acid and live on a cross between earth and Venus
11:41.35MethanogenFart smells is the least of your worries if you're close to them
11:43.28MethanogenThough yeah it'd smell pretty bad
11:44.37MethanogenI wonder if they could exploit that somehow...
11:44.55Hachimanhur
11:45.18HachimanI mean, if they employ gas grenades
11:45.31MethanogenThey already have sulphuric acid water guns for potential use against aliens, now they may have easy stink bombs as well
11:45.45MethanogenYeah they use plenty of chemical warfare
11:45.48Hachiman"Oh these carbon-based fools are sensitive to sulfuric gases, eh?"
11:45.55HachimanSomething like that
11:46.22MethanogenYeah it might be a useful weapon to have
11:47.07MethanogenYorchi, with that stuff basically being normal air to them, wouldn't notice it all, but their enemies would probably be at least hindered a little by it
11:48.14HachimanI can imagine Yorchi raiders and the like employing suit modifications to their armor in order to exhale a combination of their own naturally-produced gases and fumes stored in carry-packs and whatnot
11:48.26MethanogenThese are the benefits of an unusual xenobiochemistry
11:48.33MethanogenHmmmm that could be useful
11:48.59MethanogenIt'd basically be air cheap gassing
11:49.32HachimanSo you have these large, multi-limbed soldiers engaged in close-quarters combat and otherwise narrow, tightly-knit engagement and using their own xenobiochemistry to their advantage to nauseate the enemy should they lack reliable filtration systems
11:49.59MethanogenGiven that their conventional firearms are horribly inaccurate that kind of edge might help them out quite a lot
11:50.01HachimanSounds more like a terror weapon, honestly
11:50.29MethanogenWell it'd be effective initially at least if they don't have good filters
11:50.36HachimanYeah
11:51.03MethanogenAnd since it's basically breathing it's worth at least trying out the tactic
11:51.56MethanogenI imagine being more of a support weapon to debilitate the enemy while more lethal weapons deal most of the actual damage
11:52.21HachimanYeah, that's fair
11:53.06MethanogenClose quarters is the main focus of Yorchi ground warfare so a bit of extra help could go a long way
11:54.50MethanogenThanks for the idea, I had no idea talking about alien farts would be so productive
11:55.15Hachimankek
11:55.17HachimanNo problem
11:56.19MethanogenLooks like the Yorchi will make the most of their biology in warfare
12:00.17MethanogenI have to go now, nice taking to you all
12:01.07GhelaeOkay, bye.
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12:01.47ImpyDroidHu
12:01.48ImpyDroidHi
12:02.01HachimanHi Imp
12:02.54ImpyDroidhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Praestol#The_Syndicates Finished this
12:03.10ImpyDroidSo much evil capitalism that Gaseous_Ink is going to have an orgasm
12:03.19GhelaeHi
12:03.46ImpyDroidBut yeah check
12:03.47Gaseous_InkI don't get orgasms from evil capitalism.
12:08.46Tybusenshit i'm still awake
12:08.48Tybusengood night
12:09.41Gaseous_Ink"after all, they are Ottzelloans, and that alone says a lot" Dat's racist
12:10.13ImpyDroidExactly
12:20.40ImpyDroidGhelae: What is the third most important party in the UK?
12:21.18Gaseous_InkLiberal Democrats?
12:21.46ImpyDroidThanks
12:22.32Gaseous_InkI think the LibDems are sort of discredited though.
12:22.52ImpyDroidAnd what about the SNP?
12:22.56Gaseous_InkOh, the Scottish National Party is vey important
12:23.17Gaseous_InkNot outside Scotland, but they get the vast bulk of Scottish seats and think
12:23.45Gaseous_InkAnd unlike the LibDems haven't quite done anything reputation destroying
12:24.02ImpyDroidWhat did LibDems do?
12:24.28Gaseous_InkFormed a coalition with the Tories, putting Cameron in power
12:24.53ImpyDroidGlory to the pig
12:24.57GhelaeYes, the SNP are probably the third most important party in the UK as a whole.
12:25.26GhelaePossibly the second, if you consider their calls for a second independence referendum to be louder than anything Labour's doing.
12:26.18GhelaeThe Lib Dem's reputation was directly harmed by their coaltion. It was because, as part of the coalition, they didn't keep their election promise that they would oppose an increase in university tuition fees.
12:26.27GhelaeLib Dems'*
12:26.31Ghelaewasn't directly*
12:26.37Ghelaecoalition*
12:29.16ImpyDroidRight, got it
12:29.19ImpyDroidThanks
12:30.14Gaseous_InkI don't think the English will start voting SNP though, so I think Labour will remain one of the big two
12:32.47ImpyDroidActually how goes that referendum thing?
12:33.01ImpyDroidThey wanted to do it this year didn't they?
12:34.35Gaseous_InkI'm not sure
12:39.24ImpyDroidGhelae: "The House" in the context of British politics would refer to the House of Commons, right?  o
12:41.28GhelaeUsually.
12:42.00GhelaeI think the SNP wants to get the referendum out of the way quickly enough that they can leave the UK before the UK leaves the EU.
12:45.38GhelaeCome to think of it, I'm not sure why anybody would say "the House" without having specified *which* House previously.
12:46.08GhelaeAs a short form of "the House of Commons" or "the House of Lords", it would normally be the "House of" part that's dropped.
12:54.47ImpyDroidIn the context of the PMQ
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13:01.18HachimanElectricity got cut off
13:05.26GhelaeImpyDroid: It'll have to be the Commons for that, because that's where it takes place.
13:05.36ImpyDroidRight
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14:08.03Wormy_hi
14:08.14HachimanHi Wormy_
14:08.26HachimanI decided to pick up Proxima again and just reached Chapter 16 today
14:08.32GhelaeHi
14:08.38Wormy_How was it?
14:08.47HachimanFucking Lex is an asshole and what the fuck are those lifeforms on Proxima
14:09.26HachimanAlso Yuri is a very uninteresting and neutral protagonist; I hope we get to see more Stef
14:09.28Wormy_Most humans in Baxter's works are arseholes
14:09.40Wormy_Don't worry, you will
14:10.11Wormy_Stef becomes central to both books but I'd be revealing too much
14:10.43Wormy_I liked the robot in Proxima
14:10.56Wormy_It makes me think of Ghelae
14:11.19Hachimanhur
14:11.28HachimanYou mean the CoIU or Angelia?
14:11.29Wormy_No offense, in the semnse that it was scientifically awesome
14:11.41Wormy_CoIU
14:12.12Wormy_The alien biology on Proxima is bizzare too
14:12.31Wormy_But not *too* exotic
14:12.36HachimanI'm not sure how I am supposed to interpret or picture the lifeforms on Proxima
14:12.43HachimanI know that they are made out of stems but
14:13.07Wormy_I think of those wind-transported machines that inventor puts on beaches
14:13.39Wormy_Don't know if you've seen those
14:14.18Wormy_Proxima a wild ride though, it only gets more bizzare and the sequel takes a great turn
14:15.12Wormy_Also Hachiman, Ghelae:  I read this short story today, involving the Fermi paradox and decision theory http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/21/repost-the-demiurges-older-brother/
14:15.22HachimanNice, I'll read in a bit
14:15.35HachimanAnd no, I've never seen those wind-transported machines I believe
14:15.37Ghelaetakes a look
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14:17.36Wormy_I'll look for them
14:17.56ImpyDroid>Also Yuri is a very uninteresting and neutral protagonist
14:18.13ImpyDroidWait are we talking about
14:18.54HachimanTalking about wat
14:19.29OluapPlayerHe's asking context
14:20.38ImpyDroidI just thought of the animals
14:20.40ImpyDroid*anime
14:20.46ImpyDroidFor some reason
14:21.02HachimanAh
14:21.09HachimanNah we're talking about a sci-fi book
14:21.12HachimanCalled Proxima
14:21.21HachimanWritten by the same guy who wrote about the Xeelee
14:23.33Wormy_And numerous alt histories
14:24.52GhelaeWormy_: There is quite a discussion in the comments there about how similar this solution of the Fermi Paradox is to Roko's Basilisk.
14:25.02Wormy_Yeah
14:25.14HachimanThat sounds strangely phallic
14:25.29Wormy_It wouldn't surprise me too much, Scott Alexander has been a part of LW
14:26.05Wormy_Hachi http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html
14:27.18GhelaeI think it thus becomes a variant of the "all aliens are scared of other aliens" idea, but in this case, all AIs are scared of other AIs who irrationally keep a particular promise.
14:29.59Wormy_It reminds me of the idea that all there has to be is one galactic super-civilisation that has dominated the universe, like the first, that could annihilate or asimilate other civilisations that might compete with it for space
14:30.04GhelaeYes.
14:30.33GhelaeThus, it's a flawed uniformity-of-motive solution.
14:32.08Wormy_But one saving grace might be that it has an irrational promise of 'value-shaking', should we have developed enough (though we clearly haven't since we are not superpowerful AI) to have caused a noticeable inconvenience
14:33.33Wormy_*to be able to have caused
14:35.14GhelaeThere are other problems elsewhere in the comments section.
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14:35.24JepardiHi
14:37.21GhelaeHi
14:38.10GhelaeBut yes, maybe *some* AIs/aliens will have adopted that point of view such that we are advantaged by it.
14:39.16Wormy_But like you say, it assumes uniformity.
14:39.31OluapPlayerman what a scam, that link doesn't even involve an actual basilisk
14:39.41OluapPlayerwhere's the monster who can turn people into stone eh
14:39.50Wormy_Another flaw about Roko posted in the comments is that it assumes you care about what happens to copies of you.  But if one assumes a copy of you will have a continuation of your consciousness, then maybe you should.
14:40.20Wormy_But then that rests on your beliefs
14:41.32Wormy_Of course, there could be infinities of you and me experiencing moments of hell in extremely unlikely themodynamic fluctautions, and they probably outnumber Roko's copies if you
14:41.50Wormy_*of
14:42.45GhelaeI don't think that particular flaw of Roko applies to Fermi, though. In this case, you aren't supposed to be scared that an AI might hurt copies of you; you're supposed to be scared that an AI will directly hurt you if you interfere with other AIs or civilisations.
14:45.21Wormy_I was pointing out a problem with Roko's Basilisk
14:45.35GhelaeRight. Yes, that is a problem with Roko.
14:46.27HachimanYou'll have to excuse me cus I'm reading through, just read about the whole box thing, and still don't understand why this Basilisk is so terrifying
14:48.11ImpyDroidGhelae: Is the Chancellor of the Exchequer a purely ceremonial position or does he do something?
14:48.40GhelaeI'm pretty sure he does stuff.
14:48.43Ghelaechecks
14:49.03GhelaeFrom Wikipedia: "The chancellor is responsible for all economic and financial matters, equivalent to the role of Secretary of the Treasury or Minister of Finance in other nations."
14:50.43HachimanRight; time to read more Proxima
14:50.58Wormy_Roko's Basilisk as I understand it is like a self-fulfilling prophesy.  It is an AI that punishes you for not building it (and it ends up getting built by devoties), or you could devote your life to it and make it slighty more likely to exist (which is a terrible thing).  Either way, it looks like a moral dilemna
14:51.08HachimanBefore I go; Wormy_, how should I picture the Proxima lifeforms in my head
14:51.15GhelaeAs that article on the Basilisk states, "If you do not subscribe to the theories that underlie Roko’s Basilisk and thus feel no temptation to bow down to your once and future evil machine overlord, then Roko’s Basilisk poses you no threat."
14:51.41ImpyDroidRight
14:52.02Wormy_I don't, because what I'm concerned with are ultimately physical statements about the world, and I do not think people are unformly rational like that
14:52.20ImpyDroidGhelae: I just realized why I thought it was ceremonial: I confused the Great Officers of the State and the Great Offices
14:52.31GhelaeActually, a better point might be: "if Roko’s Basilisk were to see that this sort of blackmail gets you to help it come into existence, then it would, as a rational actor, blackmail you. The problem isn’t with the Basilisk itself, but with you."
14:52.42Hachimanhur
14:53.19ImpyDroidWhat is that with Brits and your weird titles
14:53.56Wormy_Hachi:  I imagine them as literally stem creatures, with stem-shaped cells and stem-shaped component body parts
14:54.11Wormy_I can't quite remember the description, weren't they tripod?
14:54.26HachimanThey were
14:54.33HachimanTripods and the flying ones had... rotors?
14:54.41HachimanKite-shaped flyers with rotors
14:54.58HachimanThat's what fucks me up
14:55.38Wormy_Hm, a bit like the cellular machinery that make flagellia work, perhaps
15:05.24Wormy_I find the Boltzmann brain problem more scary.  Any moment could be a random jumble of false memories.  Thinking about it long enough spoils my sense of reality, since the last moment I was contemplating being a false memory is now a false memory
15:07.17Wormy_One could say we could reject theories that lead to cognitive instability and that the universe doesn't match one we appear to have emerged in.  But of course a Boltzmann brain would come to this conclusion
15:08.01Wormy_But then I think maybe it doesn't matter
15:08.54Wormy_Since whatever fake lives I'm tricked into believing, I'm guaranteed at least some appeared in cosmological universes
15:10.22Wormy_I thinks its more scary since it seems more physically possible than Roko's Basilisk
15:16.50Wormy_Ah but then I suppose its like Roko's Basilisk, only a problem if you believe the theories that lead to cognitive instability
15:19.11Wormy_Sorry for waffling about pseudo-problems
15:20.56GhelaeIf waffling about pseudo-problems exposes their pseudo-ness, that's fine.
15:21.44Wormy_Yes, they make interesting beer talk, but its more interesting to expose their flaws
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15:34.19NeonPandaI have won my first Rimworld playthrough
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15:36.05ZF101Hello all.
15:36.35Tek0516Wormy_: After spending a couple hours it turns out I found a bug that had been in the production code for a year. >.>
15:36.46Tek0516*hours trying to fix my code
15:37.41Wormy_They can be hard spot
15:38.44NeonPandaafter much work and the colony nearly dying to starvation, I have built and launched a spaceship
15:40.09NeonPandanext in my sights is a custom scenario I've been wanting to try
15:45.42ZF101http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hrothur_Tenauo What do you guys think?
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15:57.26ZF101Hello.
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16:08.23ImperiosWormy_ Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21622510/14906228781070.jpg SporeWiki problems
16:09.58Wormy_not really I follow its logic lol
16:10.02Wormy_*sure
16:10.35NeonPandayeah that's not how I'd look at it at all tbh
16:11.47NeonPandaI mean if purpose in life has to be something that can't be fulfilled in a simulation that accurately recreates real life, then you've basically stated that the meaning of life is to maintain physical life
16:11.54NeonPandawhich if that's the case then that's boring :P
16:18.59Wormy_Hachiman:  http://imgur.com/gallery/ulQoe5J
16:21.11Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/GWkmh
16:30.46Tek0516Wormy_: And it was such an obvious bug but it went unnoticed this entire time. O.o
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17:52.34drom"Now we know why you wore a hat, Frederick." http://i.imgur.com/pgPNZXh.jpg
17:52.41dromImperios
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17:58.53dromHachiman Wormy Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/Hjmp5gi.png
17:59.41HachimanWormy_: Just got to Act 3 in Proxima; the part where Yuri and Mardina decide to have a kid and Stef re-enters the story
18:00.01HachimanWell, the former is the very last part of Act 2
18:00.23HachimanI'm not entirely convinced by Yuri and Mardina's relationship
18:01.40Wormy_they're in a desperate situation, compromises must ge made
18:01.42Wormy_be
18:05.03Wormy_Hachiman  one thing I liked in Prxima was the interaction of earth life and Proximan life
18:05.16HachimanYeah, it's kinda neat
18:05.28HachimanThe builder things are kinda cute
18:05.43Wormy_I'm sure you've read the part where they still modified bacteria in the soil to make it suitable for plants and kill native lifeforms
18:05.50HachimanYeah
18:06.11Wormy_there are more mutual interactions later on
18:07.10HachimanColU is a fucking savage I gotta say
18:07.40HachimanExterminates the local lifeforms and turns them into fertilizer or some shit
18:07.44Wormy_yep
18:07.53ImperiosOluapPlayer: Do Kikras grow larger when they are corrupted?
18:08.21Wormy_studies them with a labour of love, kills them for fertiliser
18:08.44HachimanI'm just wondering when the spacefaring Roman Empire from an alternate universe is gonna come into the story
18:08.57Wormy_right at the very end
18:09.10HachimanRight
18:09.19HachimanSo for the most part, things don't get *too* crazy?
18:09.26OluapPlayerImperios: No, if anything they lost muscle mass
18:09.47Wormy_Well, the second book goes crazier when the truths of the universe become revealed
18:09.55HachimanI recalled Proxima having ancient Romans involved in its story but I'm honestly kinda thankful that they're reserved for the end
18:10.39Imperiosright
18:10.47Wormy_but there's build up towards the end, and the introduction of mysteries of Proxima
18:10.50HachimanI am simply awaiting for Yuri and Stef and whatnot to come upon the kernels or whatever
18:11.00HachimanAlso, this Dexter Cole guy
18:11.04HachimanWonder what happened to him
18:11.43Wormy_When I read Proxima I had no idea what twists it would take
18:12.07Wormy_I thought it would be a space western through and through lol
18:12.35OluapPlayerKikras don't have any advantages beyond their mutations. They eventually all rot away until they can no longer stand
18:13.09HachimanWormy_: Didn't a kernel actually appear in the universe of the Xeelee Sequence and was subsequently destroyed when it was discovered or something?
18:13.28Wormy_Yeah, on Titan
18:14.28OluapPlayerIf you're asking this because of Praestol, there wouldn't be any Kikras there
18:14.48ImperiosBah too late already added them on a picture
18:14.48OluapPlayerKikras are created by Shu'olerthae only. Lingering Eleielord energy would create Chosen-like people, not zombies
18:14.52ImperiosThey're on a distance
18:15.09Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Roesan_Peaks.png/revision/latest?cb=20170327181416 This is your brain on entropy
18:16.14Wormy_Which I find really intriguing, it's either a direct crossover or an indirect reference
18:17.22HachimanAye
18:17.49HachimanWouldn't be out of place for Baxter to cross his two continuities over
18:17.57HachimanThrough some complicated hard science fiction bullshit
18:18.18HachimanI've also noticed that Baxter has a fondness for including references about shitting
18:18.33Wormy_Maybe, but I think both multiverses are incompatible
18:18.35Wormy_Yes
18:19.16Wormy_In Xeelee Sequence, some people on an advanced relativstic starship remarked that the one technology that didn't change was the plumbing
18:20.58Wormy_Of course that was an era long before humans become unrecognisable
18:21.26Wormy_Living in neutron stars or whayhaveyou
18:21.30HachimanYeah
18:23.25HachimanI just had an old friend from college send me a FB message asking if I'd appreciate a BJ
18:24.02Wormy_wtf
18:24.18HachimanI told him I was in France and he told me he hated those moments when one is "drunk, horny, and can't do shit about it"
18:24.54HachimanOh yeah, it's a guy as well; a very pretty, effeminate goth-esque guy, at that
18:25.07Wormy_Bet your're glad you are well away from him
18:25.16HachimanI man, he's *very* pretty
18:25.25Hachimanmean*
18:26.34ImperiosHachiman: Wait, was that my IRC client translating pounds into BJs or
18:26.47HachimanNope
18:27.26ImperiosOOOH
18:27.42ImperiosYou got me interested here
18:27.56HachimanHe's not like an old flame or anything hur
18:28.29HachimanHe's just some nice, goth guy who I used to work with and sit next to on my multimedia course
18:32.41Wormy_Hachi:  Are you familiar with the conspiracy of "transvestigation"?
18:33.16HachimanOnly vaguely
18:35.27Wormy_I'm not convinced its not Poe's law, but I found this small community obsessed with looking at the facial features of celebrities and reveal they are having inward identity battles
18:38.00Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-q2m59-f_M
18:41.03Wormy_srsly m8 https://twitter.com/HandsomeClaris/status/838678139668553728
18:42.22Wormy_https://twitter.com/yogazombies/status/843137063436402689
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19:03.16Wormy_I'd like to watch this series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wvAQGxWRQQ
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19:19.22HachimanWormy_: Bollocks, don't get to see Stef during her training
19:19.48Wormy_Her training?
19:20.14HachimanBaxter could have easily dedicated a few of those chapters where Angelia flies through space to showing Stef growing up and dealing with her father's incarceration
19:20.34HachimanYeah, Act 3 says that she's a full professor and officer now
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19:39.54DrodoEmpireyoo rofl
19:40.54HachimanHi
19:41.09HachimanSent you a message on Skupe
19:41.14HachimanSkype, rather
19:41.17DrodoEmpireOh, right
19:41.21DrodoEmpireI'll load it up
19:41.26DrodoEmpireI think it crashed sometime ago
19:44.09Wormy_I've found a bizzare-arse site http://educate-yourself.org/mc/preventalienmilitaryabductionsapr05.shtml
19:44.44GhelawayDrodoEmpire: Thanks for responding in that thread on my wall; I don't know why I didn't ask you about it directly.
19:46.04DrodoEmpireAye no problem
19:58.13HachimanWormy_: Reading the chapters on Proxima with Yuri and ColU settling the world gives me some insight into how difficult it must actually be to terraform an alien world
19:59.42Wormy_I think it would be difficult to live on during the terraforming process
20:01.38Wormy_Though, a recent conference at NASA had two rival panels, one making a argument Mars could be terraformed relatively quickly, the other artuing it was infeasible and we're better off building big space habitats
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20:01.52MethanogenHello
20:01.54HachimanHi Meth
20:02.04HachimanWormy_: Best solution is... both
20:02.15Wormy_depends on who is speculating, and also the length at which the p;lanet must be terraformed
20:02.28HachimanI mean, fuck, we could do some shit with Venus if we wanted
20:03.15MethanogenWhat's the conversation about?
20:04.15OluapPlayerWe can barely go to the Moon, terraforming is far from our reach
20:04.38HachimanA manned terraformation operation, perhaps
20:04.50HachimanAn unmanned terraformation operation, however, is far more feasible
20:05.00TechnobliteratorThe current plan is to get to the moon by the 2030s or so
20:05.10MethanogenTerraforming is difficult
20:05.10TechnobliteratorWhen are they going to make a space elevator :|
20:05.13OluapPlayerIt'd still take a generation or more to achieve anything
20:05.21OluapPlayerEven more if you try and terraform Venus
20:05.24HachimanTechnobliterator: When we get to the moon
20:05.27OluapPlayerThe place is a hellhole in every aspect
20:05.39HachimanYou cannot build a space elevator on Earth; if you did, it'd be incredibly fucking difficult
20:05.44MethanogenGood luck getting anything on Venus for more than a day without it melting and getting crushed
20:05.48HachimanYou'd have more luck building from the moon
20:05.48TechnobliteratorReally? Huh
20:06.10TechnobliteratorI heard that we basically needed one to solve the problem of rocket propulsion to leave the surface being so stupidly expensive
20:06.18Technobliteratorand polluting
20:06.23HachimanGravity is a problem
20:06.38OluapPlayergeez spaceship stop being such a fatty
20:06.41HachimanAs is shit like debris which you can probably find more of in Earth's atmosphere than the moon's
20:07.03HachimanTurning the moon into a station for spacefaring vessels is a smarter idea
20:07.30MethanogenThe problem is no matter what we do we're going to have to launch from earth heaps before we can get anywhere near using even just a space station or the moon for it
20:07.38HachimanAye
20:07.53HachimanWe also don't have the necessary construction materials for a space elevator just yet - carbon nanofibres and all that iirc
20:08.39MethanogenSpace elevator would be way too difficult and expensive  to be practical in my opinion
20:09.56Wormy_The problem is large-scale manufacture of carbon nanofibres, and fibres without defects, the existence of which severely reduce the tensile strength
20:10.17Wormy_However, modern materials could be used to construct one on the Moon
20:10.51Wormy_And might be useful when we have robots scooping up debris and returning them to Earth or some space manufacturing facility
20:11.05MethanogenI do wonder what the point of building one on the moon is though at least In the near future
20:11.46MethanogenMaybe it'd be useful for that idk
20:12.22DrodoEmpireI think the era of space colonisation's only a generation or two off, perhaps three. It could easily be within our lifetimes.
20:12.25Wormy_I think there's more and more interesting in space mining, and like I say the Moon has billions of years of meteoritic material, a lot of which will be rare earth elements
20:12.34DrodoEmpireMy primary concern is -who- will be doing it.
20:12.35Wormy_*more and more interest
20:12.39HachimanBecause less gravity on the Moon = easier to build large structures there like space elevators rather than on Earth
20:12.57MethanogenTrue, although it's also easier to get off of the moon without one as a result as well
20:13.04DrodoEmpireI want colonisation to be in the hands, ultimately, of nations, with lots of international cooperation, not corporations
20:13.15MethanogenAnd since the moon barely has an atmosphere...
20:13.16Hachimaninb4 Russia
20:13.19DrodoEmpireBecause, if you think corporations are too powerful an institution now...
20:13.23Wormy_Unfortunately that damn space treaty
20:13.26DrodoEmpireYeah
20:13.28MethanogenYeah
20:13.33DrodoEmpireAbolish that fucking garbage treaty
20:13.51MethanogenThe problem is good luck getting some nations to fully cooperate
20:13.53HachimanTrump pls do it
20:13.56DrodoEmpire^
20:14.12Wormy_"I can't think of a better application for nuclear weapons that to put them in space" Carl Sagan (on nuclear pulse propulsion)
20:14.14DrodoEmpireReplace it with a new one that opens space up to national interests and enforces a good degree of international cooperation
20:14.15HachimanAbolish the treaty so you can send the Jews and the Mexicans to space
20:14.18DrodoEmpire^
20:14.27ImperiosHachiman: Don't forget the Muslims
20:14.29MethanogenI can just imagine them cooperatively building colonies for a bit then five years later having a massive war
20:14.31OluapPlayertalk turned into hot garbage pretty quick
20:14.38DrodoEmpire((((((((((((((((((((NASA))))))))))))))))))))
20:14.40ImperiosActually since the Turkish flag depicts the crescent
20:14.42HachimanI was kidding hur
20:14.44ImperiosSend the Turks there
20:14.59ImperiosI am saying this and I have a shitton of Turkic friends
20:15.16DrodoEmpireMethanogen: Eh, space colonisation will be expensive, at least at first
20:15.25DrodoEmpireI'm not too worried about colonial warfare personally
20:15.29Wormy_I think Britain could establish an empire in space again.  The East Lunar Company or something
20:15.29MethanogenOf course it will
20:15.42Wormy_There's going to be a spaceport built soon
20:15.44HachimanNeed to get our ass to Mars
20:15.54OluapPlayerwelcome to mars, we have rocks, sand and cold
20:15.58HachimanAlso, we should focus on getting to Europa
20:16.19DrodoEmpire^
20:16.19HachimanSo we can kill the intelligent octopuses there while they are still in their early stages of social development
20:16.20OluapPlayerwelcome to europa, we have ice and enough radiation to make chernobyl look like fucking child's play
20:16.22MethanogenWelcome to Europa, we have ice and water and heaps of radiation and possibly some stuff in the water who knows
20:16.40ImperiosSend the Europeans to Europa
20:16.45MethanogenI like how intelkigenf octopi in Europa is basically what my Eriaroons are....
20:16.52Methanogen*intelligent
20:16.55ImperiosActually, yes
20:17.02ImperiosSend Muslims to the Moon and Europeans to Europe
20:17.03DrodoEmpireImperios: Europa, the huwhitest place in space
20:17.05ImperiosEuropa
20:17.08OluapPlayeroff you go then
20:17.24Wormy_I think Pluto should belong to Russia
20:17.24ImperiosDrodoEmpire: Europa, more like the Rock of Oppression
20:17.29DrodoEmpireayy lmao
20:17.33MethanogenSend idk somebody really unlucky to Venus
20:17.40HachimanI mean, hey
20:17.48DrodoEmpireNorth Korea can have Venus <.<
20:17.50HachimanAtmospheric settlements could be a thing
20:18.07OluapPlayerWay beyond our current capabilities
20:18.09MethanogenNah they can't afford it they can have mercury instead
20:18.10Wormy_Titan should belong to Texas
20:18.17DrodoEmpire^
20:18.18DrodoEmpireayy
20:18.33HachimanThat or establish atmospheric settlements and facilities around Jupiter
20:18.42HachimanAnd make friendly contact with the flying whales there
20:18.50OluapPlayereven farther away from our current capabilities
20:18.59MethanogenAtmospheric sttelejrs ars very very difficult
20:19.06MethanogenOne misstep and the whole thing goes down
20:19.15DrodoEmpireActually if Europa turns out to be inhabited by space-fish you -know- Canada and Spain will have a scrap there <.<
20:19.20MethanogenEspecially with the massive winds of Jupiter
20:19.37OluapPlayerAnd the fact it's the space equivalent of Elephant's Foot
20:19.42MethanogenThen we'll have heaps of people going "save the space fish"
20:19.54DrodoEmpireTurbot War: Round II
20:20.01DrodoEmpire<.<
20:20.38Wormy_Mars = China?
20:21.11MethanogenSince it's red I guess so
20:21.20Wormy_That's what I'm thinking
20:21.36MethanogenThe US can have idk somewhere
20:21.49ImperiosDrodoEmpire: The glory of Juche will protect them from the heat
20:21.53OluapPlayerthey can dive straight into the nearest black hole
20:21.54DrodoEmpire^
20:22.03DrodoEmpireOluap: >
20:22.04Imperios^^
20:22.05DrodoEmpire*>:
20:22.05Imperios^^^^
20:22.05HachimanI feel like Jupiter and Saturn's moons would make nice holiday resorts
20:22.18MethanogenExcept for the whole radiation thing maybe
20:22.21DrodoEmpireIf they're suicidal-- yes!
20:22.27MethanogenIo: Kike colvanoes?
20:22.31Methanogen*like volcanoes
20:22.31OluapPlayer"It's just like Chernobyl, but 500x more powerful!"
20:22.35MethanogenEuropa: like ice?
20:22.40HachimanI always forget that radiation is a thing hur
20:22.42MethanogenGanymede: like giant rocks?
20:23.00MethanogenCallisto? Like...slightly magnetic rocks?
20:23.02OluapPlayerThe big main moons themselves are irradiated enough to kill humans in the surface
20:23.11OluapPlayerYou'd die before you even reach Jupiter's atmosphere
20:23.30ImperiosHachiman: We should send Ukrainians to Jupiter's moons, they're already raditation-resistant because of Chernobyl
20:23.35ImperiosThey'll send stalkers there
20:23.37DrodoEmpireayy lmao
20:23.38MethanogenI like how my main concern now is trying to explain how my species survived such radiation....
20:23.43Wormy_Now we know where Donald Trump goes to get a tan https://tinyurl.com/mgynzal
20:23.46Wormy_(Mars)
20:23.48OluapPlayerJust another day in the Zone
20:24.38HachimanOne thing that bothers me is how are we gonna terraform the shit out of these worlds enough to get rid of the radiation
20:25.15OluapPlayerWe're not
20:25.30OluapPlayerWe either find a way to shield ourselves or we die
20:25.51HachimanWell, I hear that cockroaches are highly resistant to radiation
20:25.55HachimanImperios: Send the Turks
20:26.10DrodoEmpirehur
20:26.18OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure the entire cockroach thing is a myth
20:26.23ImperiosYep, perfect decision
20:26.32HachimanI mean, I dunno, I could believe it
20:26.43HachimanCockroaches are stupidly tough
20:27.11OluapPlayerThough I wouldn't be against getting all the rockroaches on Earth and tossing them into Jupiter
20:27.15OluapPlayerDisgusting little shits
20:27.18Wormy_Underground cities are the best bit for Mars-like worlds without a global and extensive magnetosphere, no amount of terraforming can help that
20:27.42OluapPlayerYeah, even if we terraform Mars, the atmosphere is gonna disperse over time
20:27.46Wormy_Ozone and a thicker atmosphere could block some ultraviolet though
20:27.46OluapPlayerThat's another problem
20:28.16Wormy_Yes, it would need to be constantly managed for the time humans remain on it
20:28.28HachimanSounds more expensive than it's worth tbh
20:28.39OluapPlayerHence beyond our current capabilities
20:28.45HachimanMeanwhile, melting Mars' underground ice could make for awesome hydroponics facilities
20:28.58MethanogenGtg
20:29.10OluapPlayerEven if you put a bunch of factories on Mars to create an atmosphere, the process would take centuries
20:29.20Wormy_Tha's the argument on the NASA panel for a space habitat over terraforming Mars.  It may be possible to create magnetic shields around such structures
20:29.59Wormy_And I like Mars as it is tbh
20:30.48Wormy_I'm okay with terraforming exoplanets but I like the solar system as it is
20:31.06HachimanThere is something strangely beautiful about the worlds of our homesystem
20:31.18OluapPlayergot bad news for u then
20:31.40OluapPlayerNo way terraforming exoplanets will be even considered before attempting them where we can actually reach
20:32.50Wormy_I believe it is possible to reach those planets.  It may take longer but its not like I'll be stepping on Mars without a breathing mask and pressure suit in my lifetime anyway
20:33.05HachimanTrue
20:33.27Wormy_Its not likely I'll ever step on Mars even if other people will.  I will be a frail old man
20:34.28HachimanI wouldn't mind living to become a centenarian if I get the chance to set foot on another world
20:34.38HachimanI shall be driven by the power of hate alone
20:34.45HachimanLike most old people
20:34.53DrodoEmpireolol
20:35.20Wormy_hejh, I let an old man on the bus before me lately and he had a go because he thought I was treating him weakly
20:35.29Wormy_you can't win with old people
20:37.13OluapPlayerYou might be just a bunch of sour britbongs
20:37.24HachimanImplying I'm not that already
20:37.41HachimanI'm the kind of person who will probably develop wrinkles in his 20s
20:40.16Wormy_What's a britbong?
20:40.36HachimanA British person; bong = the sound Big Ben makes
20:40.41Wormy_ah
20:40.53Wormy_We aren't all defined by London hur
20:40.59OluapPlayerthe word couldn't be anymore self-explanatory
20:44.07Wormy_Britbong land can be very sour though
20:44.32HachimanBritbondland IS very sour
20:44.34Wormy_unless its sunny, then everyone runs outside and says hello to each other
20:48.18ImperiosWow
20:48.25ImperiosSo THAT is where the term Britbong comes from?
20:48.34ImperiosHuh
20:49.04ImperiosWeird, the main ethnic slur for Russians also comes from the capital
20:49.07ImperiosMoskal, as in Moscow
20:49.10Wormy_All I could thing of was a bong
20:49.12OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/NtWlwZQ.png i'm pretty sure bong comes from this greentext
20:49.12ImperiosA man from Moscow
20:51.10Wormy_we're not all divided into cockney speaking chimney sweeps and tophat wearing tophs
20:51.35OluapPlayerye you are, we're just living it so you don't notice it
20:51.39OluapPlayer*you're just
20:52.47Wormy_What about the quintisential Yorkshire men https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41EHf2wHqML.jpg
20:52.49OluapPlayerIn an unrelated note, yesterday I was just chilling when suddenly a pigeon threw itself into my window
20:52.55OluapPlayerScared the shit out of me
20:53.02Hachimanolol
20:53.10HachimanThat happened on the first day I came to France
20:53.20OluapPlayerLuckily the window was closed, otherwise it'd have gotten in
20:53.35OluapPlayerA pigeon got into my room once and the whole place smelled like bird for the rest of the day
20:55.04Wormy_When the birds decide to gang up and kill us, we're doomed
20:55.59Hachimaninb4 Birdemic
20:56.11HachimanAnd all they'd need to do is weaponize bird flu
20:56.32Wormy_be afraid http://reachingformore.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341e223753ef0192abfb10e2970d-pi
20:57.49OluapPlayerWe've killed the most numerous pigeon species once, I think we're fine against birds
20:57.59OluapPlayerExcept Australia against emus
20:58.54Wormy_There's a bird that attacks the eyes and throat specifically in Australia
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21:01.38Wormy_ohi
21:01.46OluapPlayerHi
21:12.03ImperiosOluapPlayer Hachiman Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Praestol#Important_Locations Blam
21:12.25HachimanI am afraid I shall have to read properly later
21:12.40HachimanIt's late over here and I do require my 'beauty' sleep
21:14.32ImperiosYou mean ugliness sleep
21:14.39Wormy_you used to say sleep is for the weak lol
21:15.11Monet"tower of Seven" sounds quite grand.
21:15.23HachimanI did used to say 'sleep is for the weak'
21:15.29HachimanNow I say 'sleep is for the week'
21:15.51HachimanAlso, that name reminds me of a Tarot
21:15.55HachimanOh he's gone
21:15.57Hachiman;-;
21:16.08HachimanAnywho, if you need me, contact me via Skype or something
21:16.35MonetProbably the seven seals of the Appocalypse
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21:46.30Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39381889
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22:01.24Wormy_hi
22:02.01Liquid_InkHey
22:38.29Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/ZKfRv
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