00:02.08 | Monet | I might discuss with Imperios later but I had a thought on one setion of this cartel |
00:03.02 | Monet | "ailor-made superadvanced bionics created for the wealthiest people on Praestol: golden-plated, encrusted with gems" I slightly wonder if they do act as trendsetters - providing one style for customers that they feel is sub-par compared to personal implants. |
00:03.49 | Monet | https://vid.alarabiya.net/images/2016/05/09/a43f54e2-a8e7-47b2-806c-20385a00e9b3/a43f54e2-a8e7-47b2-806c-20385a00e9b3_16x9_788x442.jpg - this is for the customers |
00:04.04 | Monet | http://images.adsttc.com/media/images/5272/d474/e8e4/4ef4/c200/0789/large_jpg/ZHA_B_V_Sideview_90m.jpg?1383257129 - this is for their own |
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00:27.53 | Monet | hi |
00:28.49 | Tybusen | Hello |
00:29.17 | Wormy_ | I hate it getting to 1:28 in the morning and I;m messing around with figures and references. Bed plz |
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06:16.06 | Methanogen | Hello |
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07:14.16 | Methanogen | Hello everyone |
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07:16.58 | Wormydroid | Hi |
07:18.18 | Methanogen | Ah hi there |
07:18.26 | Methanogen | What've you been up to? |
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07:19.26 | Methanogen | Hi |
07:20.03 | Methanogen | I've just been making technology sections for my fictions |
07:22.43 | Wormydroid | Had a BBQ and fire ladt night |
07:22.49 | Wormydroid | Cool |
07:23.08 | Methanogen | Ah sounds good |
07:23.32 | Methanogen | I hope they make sense and aren't incomprehensible |
07:29.45 | Methanogen | I have to go |
07:32.31 | Wormydroid | Bye |
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08:48.18 | Hachiman | Hu |
08:48.21 | Hachiman | Hi* |
08:48.25 | Hachiman | Ngh I keep missing Wormy |
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10:50.12 | Hachiman | Hi |
10:53.46 | Ghelae | Hi |
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11:00.22 | Methanogen | Greetings |
11:00.40 | Ghelae | Hi |
11:01.08 | Methanogen | How are you going? |
11:01.47 | Hachiman | Hi |
11:01.51 | Hachiman | Doing fine |
11:01.56 | Ghelae | I'm all right; how about you? |
11:02.35 | Hachiman | How's your stuff coming along, Meth? |
11:02.44 | Methanogen | That's good, I'm pretty good as well, recently worked on my technology sections |
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11:03.33 | cyrabot | Hi |
11:04.24 | Ghelae | Hi |
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11:04.46 | Methanogen | Sorry about that |
11:04.52 | Hachiman | All good |
11:05.07 | Methanogen | Accidentally pressed an ad, that's what I get for using the irc page instead of doing it properly |
11:05.20 | Methanogen | So yeah, I'd like to think my stuff is coming along well but I can never be sure |
11:05.30 | Hachiman | You tried using AdBlock? |
11:05.56 | Methanogen | Can't use that on this device |
11:06.01 | Hachiman | Ah, right |
11:06.14 | Methanogen | It's not usually an issue |
11:08.09 | Methanogen | I've been wondering, what's the best way to actually get in to the fiction universe in terms of actually having a fiction? Do you make a first contact scenario thing or just make a fiction or jump into someone else's or something totally different? |
11:08.31 | Hachiman | Well |
11:09.09 | Hachiman | Hm, that's a difficult question |
11:09.29 | Methanogen | Is it situation dependent? |
11:11.05 | Hachiman | I think it's really a combination of talking to the people whose fiction you're interested in having your own fiction make contact with and... hm |
11:11.47 | Methanogen | I can understand it's a difficult query given how many possibilities there are and such |
11:12.37 | Methanogen | Actually, how did you first get involved with fiction stuff? |
11:12.51 | Hachiman | That's what I'm trying to remember |
11:13.00 | Hachiman | I've been here for so long |
11:13.15 | Methanogen | Ah so you've been here for a very long time |
11:14.30 | Hachiman | Honestly, in the most basic sense, a combination of talking to other people if you have an interest in their fiction and they have an interest in your own, doing your own solo writing to give insights into what your fiction is about and the characters and themes involved in it, and looking for opportunity like collaborative fiction |
11:14.37 | Hachiman | Which can be a bit difficult to come by |
11:14.48 | Methanogen | I see so lots of stuff involved |
11:14.55 | Methanogen | Well I hear there's a war nowhere near me |
11:15.07 | Hachiman | It's difficult to explain but it's honestly simple in practice |
11:15.33 | Methanogen | So basically find a person who is interested and make something |
11:15.46 | Hachiman | Basically; doesn't even have to be a war, either |
11:15.52 | Hachiman | Or nothing so large-scale] |
11:15.57 | Methanogen | True |
11:16.13 | Hachiman | In recent times, smaller-scale stories have actually been taking some more prominence if that makes things any easier |
11:16.24 | Methanogen | Honestly just a first contact situation would work well for either of my fiction probably given their somewhat exotic natures |
11:16.35 | Hachiman | Yeah, that's fine |
11:17.04 | Methanogen | Peered another question for you: what's the worst mistake you've seen newbies make and how do you avoid it? I ask so I can avoid it basically |
11:17.12 | Methanogen | *heres not peered |
11:17.44 | Methanogen | And I apologise for asking heaps of questions all the time |
11:23.09 | Ghelae | Bad mistakes that I can think of include not reading the fiction guidelines, not asking before jumping into stories, not participating in community discussions such as those on IRC... basically, not doing things that you've already done. |
11:23.40 | Ghelae | If you somehow manage to do something badly wrong, we'll tell you. |
11:23.44 | Methanogen | <PROTECTED> |
11:24.00 | Methanogen | Thanks, I'll try to avoid it as much as possible |
11:24.13 | Hachiman | It's all good |
11:24.33 | Hachiman | Like I said, you're one of the better things we've had; we get a LOT of people make a LOT of mistakes right off the bat |
11:24.47 | Hachiman | And it's good you managed to avoid all the stuff that could go wrong |
11:24.52 | Methanogen | That's kind of a shame |
11:24.55 | Methanogen | I'm glad I did |
11:25.29 | Methanogen | I guess just reading the rules may have been a major issue in some cases? |
11:26.01 | Ghelae | I think so. |
11:26.51 | Methanogen | And I'm sure you probably had problems with a lot of people wanting omnipotence and stuff like that |
11:27.16 | Methanogen | I can remember the rules mentioning already having too much of that stuff |
11:28.19 | Ghelae | It happens, but usually people who are like that don't get involved, and then get bored quickly, so their fiction never actually touches the collaborative fiction universe. |
11:28.40 | Methanogen | Ah that makes sense |
11:28.59 | Methanogen | I've tired to make my fictions fairly not too powerful |
11:29.04 | Methanogen | *tried |
11:30.46 | Methanogen | My focus is on making stuff interesting anyway not really in making it powerful |
11:31.18 | Hachiman | Yeah, that's good |
11:31.21 | Hachiman | We like that |
11:32.13 | Methanogen | I just hope my fiction is actually decently interesting, or will be at some point |
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11:33.10 | Methanogen | Hello |
11:33.29 | Methanogen | I wonder if next time it'll be Plasmatic_Ink |
11:34.43 | Gaseous_Ink | I once tried to make it "Bose-Entsein_Condensate_Ink" but the nicknames can't be that long |
11:35.17 | Methanogen | Ah that's a shame |
11:35.27 | Methanogen | Now I'm wondering what variations I can make out of my name |
11:35.52 | Hachiman | Oh so Methan- is methane |
11:36.03 | Methanogen | Yep |
11:36.20 | Methanogen | A methanogen is an organism that exhales methane or something like that |
11:36.54 | Hachiman | So, essentially farts all the time |
11:36.55 | Ghelae | The "-gen" part means "making", so methanogen = methane-making. |
11:37.00 | Methanogen | Which none of my fictions actually are now that I think about it |
11:37.04 | Methanogen | Yep that makes sense |
11:37.58 | Methanogen | Well I guess maybe Eriaroon farts have methane in them- nevermind I don't think they even fart |
11:38.39 | Ghelae | That would just imply that there are some methanogenic microbes in their digestive systems. |
11:39.13 | Methanogen | There probably are in there somewhere I haven't figured out the very exact specifics of their digestive tracts and such |
11:39.54 | Methanogen | Yorchi will end up having Sulfur farts probably which I'd imagine would be rather obnoxious to many species now that I consider it |
11:40.41 | Hachiman | That sounds... incredibly putrid |
11:41.25 | Methanogen | They drink sulphuric acid and live on a cross between earth and Venus |
11:41.35 | Methanogen | Fart smells is the least of your worries if you're close to them |
11:43.28 | Methanogen | Though yeah it'd smell pretty bad |
11:44.37 | Methanogen | I wonder if they could exploit that somehow... |
11:44.55 | Hachiman | hur |
11:45.18 | Hachiman | I mean, if they employ gas grenades |
11:45.31 | Methanogen | They already have sulphuric acid water guns for potential use against aliens, now they may have easy stink bombs as well |
11:45.45 | Methanogen | Yeah they use plenty of chemical warfare |
11:45.48 | Hachiman | "Oh these carbon-based fools are sensitive to sulfuric gases, eh?" |
11:45.55 | Hachiman | Something like that |
11:46.22 | Methanogen | Yeah it might be a useful weapon to have |
11:47.07 | Methanogen | Yorchi, with that stuff basically being normal air to them, wouldn't notice it all, but their enemies would probably be at least hindered a little by it |
11:48.14 | Hachiman | I can imagine Yorchi raiders and the like employing suit modifications to their armor in order to exhale a combination of their own naturally-produced gases and fumes stored in carry-packs and whatnot |
11:48.26 | Methanogen | These are the benefits of an unusual xenobiochemistry |
11:48.33 | Methanogen | Hmmmm that could be useful |
11:48.59 | Methanogen | It'd basically be air cheap gassing |
11:49.32 | Hachiman | So you have these large, multi-limbed soldiers engaged in close-quarters combat and otherwise narrow, tightly-knit engagement and using their own xenobiochemistry to their advantage to nauseate the enemy should they lack reliable filtration systems |
11:49.59 | Methanogen | Given that their conventional firearms are horribly inaccurate that kind of edge might help them out quite a lot |
11:50.01 | Hachiman | Sounds more like a terror weapon, honestly |
11:50.29 | Methanogen | Well it'd be effective initially at least if they don't have good filters |
11:50.36 | Hachiman | Yeah |
11:51.03 | Methanogen | And since it's basically breathing it's worth at least trying out the tactic |
11:51.56 | Methanogen | I imagine being more of a support weapon to debilitate the enemy while more lethal weapons deal most of the actual damage |
11:52.21 | Hachiman | Yeah, that's fair |
11:53.06 | Methanogen | Close quarters is the main focus of Yorchi ground warfare so a bit of extra help could go a long way |
11:54.50 | Methanogen | Thanks for the idea, I had no idea talking about alien farts would be so productive |
11:55.15 | Hachiman | kek |
11:55.17 | Hachiman | No problem |
11:56.19 | Methanogen | Looks like the Yorchi will make the most of their biology in warfare |
12:00.17 | Methanogen | I have to go now, nice taking to you all |
12:01.07 | Ghelae | Okay, bye. |
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12:01.47 | ImpyDroid | Hu |
12:01.48 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
12:02.01 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
12:02.54 | ImpyDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Praestol#The_Syndicates Finished this |
12:03.10 | ImpyDroid | So much evil capitalism that Gaseous_Ink is going to have an orgasm |
12:03.19 | Ghelae | Hi |
12:03.46 | ImpyDroid | But yeah check |
12:03.47 | Gaseous_Ink | I don't get orgasms from evil capitalism. |
12:08.46 | Tybusen | shit i'm still awake |
12:08.48 | Tybusen | good night |
12:09.41 | Gaseous_Ink | "after all, they are Ottzelloans, and that alone says a lot" Dat's racist |
12:10.13 | ImpyDroid | Exactly |
12:20.40 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: What is the third most important party in the UK? |
12:21.18 | Gaseous_Ink | Liberal Democrats? |
12:21.46 | ImpyDroid | Thanks |
12:22.32 | Gaseous_Ink | I think the LibDems are sort of discredited though. |
12:22.52 | ImpyDroid | And what about the SNP? |
12:22.56 | Gaseous_Ink | Oh, the Scottish National Party is vey important |
12:23.17 | Gaseous_Ink | Not outside Scotland, but they get the vast bulk of Scottish seats and think |
12:23.45 | Gaseous_Ink | And unlike the LibDems haven't quite done anything reputation destroying |
12:24.02 | ImpyDroid | What did LibDems do? |
12:24.28 | Gaseous_Ink | Formed a coalition with the Tories, putting Cameron in power |
12:24.53 | ImpyDroid | Glory to the pig |
12:24.57 | Ghelae | Yes, the SNP are probably the third most important party in the UK as a whole. |
12:25.26 | Ghelae | Possibly the second, if you consider their calls for a second independence referendum to be louder than anything Labour's doing. |
12:26.18 | Ghelae | The Lib Dem's reputation was directly harmed by their coaltion. It was because, as part of the coalition, they didn't keep their election promise that they would oppose an increase in university tuition fees. |
12:26.27 | Ghelae | Lib Dems'* |
12:26.31 | Ghelae | wasn't directly* |
12:26.37 | Ghelae | coalition* |
12:29.16 | ImpyDroid | Right, got it |
12:29.19 | ImpyDroid | Thanks |
12:30.14 | Gaseous_Ink | I don't think the English will start voting SNP though, so I think Labour will remain one of the big two |
12:32.47 | ImpyDroid | Actually how goes that referendum thing? |
12:33.01 | ImpyDroid | They wanted to do it this year didn't they? |
12:34.35 | Gaseous_Ink | I'm not sure |
12:39.24 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: "The House" in the context of British politics would refer to the House of Commons, right? o |
12:41.28 | Ghelae | Usually. |
12:42.00 | Ghelae | I think the SNP wants to get the referendum out of the way quickly enough that they can leave the UK before the UK leaves the EU. |
12:45.38 | Ghelae | Come to think of it, I'm not sure why anybody would say "the House" without having specified *which* House previously. |
12:46.08 | Ghelae | As a short form of "the House of Commons" or "the House of Lords", it would normally be the "House of" part that's dropped. |
12:54.47 | ImpyDroid | In the context of the PMQ |
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13:01.18 | Hachiman | Electricity got cut off |
13:05.26 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: It'll have to be the Commons for that, because that's where it takes place. |
13:05.36 | ImpyDroid | Right |
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14:08.03 | Wormy_ | hi |
14:08.14 | Hachiman | Hi Wormy_ |
14:08.26 | Hachiman | I decided to pick up Proxima again and just reached Chapter 16 today |
14:08.32 | Ghelae | Hi |
14:08.38 | Wormy_ | How was it? |
14:08.47 | Hachiman | Fucking Lex is an asshole and what the fuck are those lifeforms on Proxima |
14:09.26 | Hachiman | Also Yuri is a very uninteresting and neutral protagonist; I hope we get to see more Stef |
14:09.28 | Wormy_ | Most humans in Baxter's works are arseholes |
14:09.40 | Wormy_ | Don't worry, you will |
14:10.11 | Wormy_ | Stef becomes central to both books but I'd be revealing too much |
14:10.43 | Wormy_ | I liked the robot in Proxima |
14:10.56 | Wormy_ | It makes me think of Ghelae |
14:11.19 | Hachiman | hur |
14:11.28 | Hachiman | You mean the CoIU or Angelia? |
14:11.29 | Wormy_ | No offense, in the semnse that it was scientifically awesome |
14:11.41 | Wormy_ | CoIU |
14:12.12 | Wormy_ | The alien biology on Proxima is bizzare too |
14:12.31 | Wormy_ | But not *too* exotic |
14:12.36 | Hachiman | I'm not sure how I am supposed to interpret or picture the lifeforms on Proxima |
14:12.43 | Hachiman | I know that they are made out of stems but |
14:13.07 | Wormy_ | I think of those wind-transported machines that inventor puts on beaches |
14:13.39 | Wormy_ | Don't know if you've seen those |
14:14.18 | Wormy_ | Proxima a wild ride though, it only gets more bizzare and the sequel takes a great turn |
14:15.12 | Wormy_ | Also Hachiman, Ghelae: I read this short story today, involving the Fermi paradox and decision theory http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/21/repost-the-demiurges-older-brother/ |
14:15.22 | Hachiman | Nice, I'll read in a bit |
14:15.35 | Hachiman | And no, I've never seen those wind-transported machines I believe |
14:15.37 | Ghelae | takes a look |
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14:17.36 | Wormy_ | I'll look for them |
14:17.56 | ImpyDroid | >Also Yuri is a very uninteresting and neutral protagonist |
14:18.13 | ImpyDroid | Wait are we talking about |
14:18.54 | Hachiman | Talking about wat |
14:19.29 | OluapPlayer | He's asking context |
14:20.38 | ImpyDroid | I just thought of the animals |
14:20.40 | ImpyDroid | *anime |
14:20.46 | ImpyDroid | For some reason |
14:21.02 | Hachiman | Ah |
14:21.09 | Hachiman | Nah we're talking about a sci-fi book |
14:21.12 | Hachiman | Called Proxima |
14:21.21 | Hachiman | Written by the same guy who wrote about the Xeelee |
14:23.33 | Wormy_ | And numerous alt histories |
14:24.52 | Ghelae | Wormy_: There is quite a discussion in the comments there about how similar this solution of the Fermi Paradox is to Roko's Basilisk. |
14:25.02 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
14:25.14 | Hachiman | That sounds strangely phallic |
14:25.29 | Wormy_ | It wouldn't surprise me too much, Scott Alexander has been a part of LW |
14:26.05 | Wormy_ | Hachi http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/07/roko_s_basilisk_the_most_terrifying_thought_experiment_of_all_time.html |
14:27.18 | Ghelae | I think it thus becomes a variant of the "all aliens are scared of other aliens" idea, but in this case, all AIs are scared of other AIs who irrationally keep a particular promise. |
14:29.59 | Wormy_ | It reminds me of the idea that all there has to be is one galactic super-civilisation that has dominated the universe, like the first, that could annihilate or asimilate other civilisations that might compete with it for space |
14:30.04 | Ghelae | Yes. |
14:30.33 | Ghelae | Thus, it's a flawed uniformity-of-motive solution. |
14:32.08 | Wormy_ | But one saving grace might be that it has an irrational promise of 'value-shaking', should we have developed enough (though we clearly haven't since we are not superpowerful AI) to have caused a noticeable inconvenience |
14:33.33 | Wormy_ | *to be able to have caused |
14:35.14 | Ghelae | There are other problems elsewhere in the comments section. |
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14:35.24 | Jepardi | Hi |
14:37.21 | Ghelae | Hi |
14:38.10 | Ghelae | But yes, maybe *some* AIs/aliens will have adopted that point of view such that we are advantaged by it. |
14:39.16 | Wormy_ | But like you say, it assumes uniformity. |
14:39.31 | OluapPlayer | man what a scam, that link doesn't even involve an actual basilisk |
14:39.41 | OluapPlayer | where's the monster who can turn people into stone eh |
14:39.50 | Wormy_ | Another flaw about Roko posted in the comments is that it assumes you care about what happens to copies of you. But if one assumes a copy of you will have a continuation of your consciousness, then maybe you should. |
14:40.20 | Wormy_ | But then that rests on your beliefs |
14:41.32 | Wormy_ | Of course, there could be infinities of you and me experiencing moments of hell in extremely unlikely themodynamic fluctautions, and they probably outnumber Roko's copies if you |
14:41.50 | Wormy_ | *of |
14:42.45 | Ghelae | I don't think that particular flaw of Roko applies to Fermi, though. In this case, you aren't supposed to be scared that an AI might hurt copies of you; you're supposed to be scared that an AI will directly hurt you if you interfere with other AIs or civilisations. |
14:45.21 | Wormy_ | I was pointing out a problem with Roko's Basilisk |
14:45.35 | Ghelae | Right. Yes, that is a problem with Roko. |
14:46.27 | Hachiman | You'll have to excuse me cus I'm reading through, just read about the whole box thing, and still don't understand why this Basilisk is so terrifying |
14:48.11 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: Is the Chancellor of the Exchequer a purely ceremonial position or does he do something? |
14:48.40 | Ghelae | I'm pretty sure he does stuff. |
14:48.43 | Ghelae | checks |
14:49.03 | Ghelae | From Wikipedia: "The chancellor is responsible for all economic and financial matters, equivalent to the role of Secretary of the Treasury or Minister of Finance in other nations." |
14:50.43 | Hachiman | Right; time to read more Proxima |
14:50.58 | Wormy_ | Roko's Basilisk as I understand it is like a self-fulfilling prophesy. It is an AI that punishes you for not building it (and it ends up getting built by devoties), or you could devote your life to it and make it slighty more likely to exist (which is a terrible thing). Either way, it looks like a moral dilemna |
14:51.08 | Hachiman | Before I go; Wormy_, how should I picture the Proxima lifeforms in my head |
14:51.15 | Ghelae | As that article on the Basilisk states, "If you do not subscribe to the theories that underlie Rokoâs Basilisk and thus feel no temptation to bow down to your once and future evil machine overlord, then Rokoâs Basilisk poses you no threat." |
14:51.41 | ImpyDroid | Right |
14:52.02 | Wormy_ | I don't, because what I'm concerned with are ultimately physical statements about the world, and I do not think people are unformly rational like that |
14:52.20 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: I just realized why I thought it was ceremonial: I confused the Great Officers of the State and the Great Offices |
14:52.31 | Ghelae | Actually, a better point might be: "if Rokoâs Basilisk were to see that this sort of blackmail gets you to help it come into existence, then it would, as a rational actor, blackmail you. The problem isnât with the Basilisk itself, but with you." |
14:52.42 | Hachiman | hur |
14:53.19 | ImpyDroid | What is that with Brits and your weird titles |
14:53.56 | Wormy_ | Hachi: I imagine them as literally stem creatures, with stem-shaped cells and stem-shaped component body parts |
14:54.11 | Wormy_ | I can't quite remember the description, weren't they tripod? |
14:54.26 | Hachiman | They were |
14:54.33 | Hachiman | Tripods and the flying ones had... rotors? |
14:54.41 | Hachiman | Kite-shaped flyers with rotors |
14:54.58 | Hachiman | That's what fucks me up |
14:55.38 | Wormy_ | Hm, a bit like the cellular machinery that make flagellia work, perhaps |
15:05.24 | Wormy_ | I find the Boltzmann brain problem more scary. Any moment could be a random jumble of false memories. Thinking about it long enough spoils my sense of reality, since the last moment I was contemplating being a false memory is now a false memory |
15:07.17 | Wormy_ | One could say we could reject theories that lead to cognitive instability and that the universe doesn't match one we appear to have emerged in. But of course a Boltzmann brain would come to this conclusion |
15:08.01 | Wormy_ | But then I think maybe it doesn't matter |
15:08.54 | Wormy_ | Since whatever fake lives I'm tricked into believing, I'm guaranteed at least some appeared in cosmological universes |
15:10.22 | Wormy_ | I thinks its more scary since it seems more physically possible than Roko's Basilisk |
15:16.50 | Wormy_ | Ah but then I suppose its like Roko's Basilisk, only a problem if you believe the theories that lead to cognitive instability |
15:19.11 | Wormy_ | Sorry for waffling about pseudo-problems |
15:20.56 | Ghelae | If waffling about pseudo-problems exposes their pseudo-ness, that's fine. |
15:21.44 | Wormy_ | Yes, they make interesting beer talk, but its more interesting to expose their flaws |
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15:29.27 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/00Oiq |
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15:34.19 | NeonPanda | I have won my first Rimworld playthrough |
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15:36.05 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
15:36.35 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: After spending a couple hours it turns out I found a bug that had been in the production code for a year. >.> |
15:36.46 | Tek0516 | *hours trying to fix my code |
15:37.41 | Wormy_ | They can be hard spot |
15:38.44 | NeonPanda | after much work and the colony nearly dying to starvation, I have built and launched a spaceship |
15:40.09 | NeonPanda | next in my sights is a custom scenario I've been wanting to try |
15:45.42 | ZF101 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hrothur_Tenauo What do you guys think? |
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15:56.00 | cyrabot | hi |
15:57.26 | ZF101 | Hello. |
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16:08.23 | Imperios | Wormy_ Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21622510/14906228781070.jpg SporeWiki problems |
16:09.58 | Wormy_ | not really I follow its logic lol |
16:10.02 | Wormy_ | *sure |
16:10.35 | NeonPanda | yeah that's not how I'd look at it at all tbh |
16:11.47 | NeonPanda | I mean if purpose in life has to be something that can't be fulfilled in a simulation that accurately recreates real life, then you've basically stated that the meaning of life is to maintain physical life |
16:11.54 | NeonPanda | which if that's the case then that's boring :P |
16:18.59 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/ulQoe5J |
16:21.11 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/GWkmh |
16:30.46 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: And it was such an obvious bug but it went unnoticed this entire time. O.o |
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17:52.34 | drom | "Now we know why you wore a hat, Frederick." http://i.imgur.com/pgPNZXh.jpg |
17:52.41 | drom | Imperios |
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17:58.53 | drom | Hachiman Wormy Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/Hjmp5gi.png |
17:59.41 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Just got to Act 3 in Proxima; the part where Yuri and Mardina decide to have a kid and Stef re-enters the story |
18:00.01 | Hachiman | Well, the former is the very last part of Act 2 |
18:00.23 | Hachiman | I'm not entirely convinced by Yuri and Mardina's relationship |
18:01.40 | Wormy_ | they're in a desperate situation, compromises must ge made |
18:01.42 | Wormy_ | be |
18:05.03 | Wormy_ | Hachiman one thing I liked in Prxima was the interaction of earth life and Proximan life |
18:05.16 | Hachiman | Yeah, it's kinda neat |
18:05.28 | Hachiman | The builder things are kinda cute |
18:05.43 | Wormy_ | I'm sure you've read the part where they still modified bacteria in the soil to make it suitable for plants and kill native lifeforms |
18:05.50 | Hachiman | Yeah |
18:06.11 | Wormy_ | there are more mutual interactions later on |
18:07.10 | Hachiman | ColU is a fucking savage I gotta say |
18:07.40 | Hachiman | Exterminates the local lifeforms and turns them into fertilizer or some shit |
18:07.44 | Wormy_ | yep |
18:07.53 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Do Kikras grow larger when they are corrupted? |
18:08.21 | Wormy_ | studies them with a labour of love, kills them for fertiliser |
18:08.44 | Hachiman | I'm just wondering when the spacefaring Roman Empire from an alternate universe is gonna come into the story |
18:08.57 | Wormy_ | right at the very end |
18:09.10 | Hachiman | Right |
18:09.19 | Hachiman | So for the most part, things don't get *too* crazy? |
18:09.26 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: No, if anything they lost muscle mass |
18:09.47 | Wormy_ | Well, the second book goes crazier when the truths of the universe become revealed |
18:09.55 | Hachiman | I recalled Proxima having ancient Romans involved in its story but I'm honestly kinda thankful that they're reserved for the end |
18:10.39 | Imperios | right |
18:10.47 | Wormy_ | but there's build up towards the end, and the introduction of mysteries of Proxima |
18:10.50 | Hachiman | I am simply awaiting for Yuri and Stef and whatnot to come upon the kernels or whatever |
18:11.00 | Hachiman | Also, this Dexter Cole guy |
18:11.04 | Hachiman | Wonder what happened to him |
18:11.43 | Wormy_ | When I read Proxima I had no idea what twists it would take |
18:12.07 | Wormy_ | I thought it would be a space western through and through lol |
18:12.35 | OluapPlayer | Kikras don't have any advantages beyond their mutations. They eventually all rot away until they can no longer stand |
18:13.09 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Didn't a kernel actually appear in the universe of the Xeelee Sequence and was subsequently destroyed when it was discovered or something? |
18:13.28 | Wormy_ | Yeah, on Titan |
18:14.28 | OluapPlayer | If you're asking this because of Praestol, there wouldn't be any Kikras there |
18:14.48 | Imperios | Bah too late already added them on a picture |
18:14.48 | OluapPlayer | Kikras are created by Shu'olerthae only. Lingering Eleielord energy would create Chosen-like people, not zombies |
18:14.52 | Imperios | They're on a distance |
18:15.09 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Roesan_Peaks.png/revision/latest?cb=20170327181416 This is your brain on entropy |
18:16.14 | Wormy_ | Which I find really intriguing, it's either a direct crossover or an indirect reference |
18:17.22 | Hachiman | Aye |
18:17.49 | Hachiman | Wouldn't be out of place for Baxter to cross his two continuities over |
18:17.57 | Hachiman | Through some complicated hard science fiction bullshit |
18:18.18 | Hachiman | I've also noticed that Baxter has a fondness for including references about shitting |
18:18.33 | Wormy_ | Maybe, but I think both multiverses are incompatible |
18:18.35 | Wormy_ | Yes |
18:19.16 | Wormy_ | In Xeelee Sequence, some people on an advanced relativstic starship remarked that the one technology that didn't change was the plumbing |
18:20.58 | Wormy_ | Of course that was an era long before humans become unrecognisable |
18:21.26 | Wormy_ | Living in neutron stars or whayhaveyou |
18:21.30 | Hachiman | Yeah |
18:23.25 | Hachiman | I just had an old friend from college send me a FB message asking if I'd appreciate a BJ |
18:24.02 | Wormy_ | wtf |
18:24.18 | Hachiman | I told him I was in France and he told me he hated those moments when one is "drunk, horny, and can't do shit about it" |
18:24.54 | Hachiman | Oh yeah, it's a guy as well; a very pretty, effeminate goth-esque guy, at that |
18:25.07 | Wormy_ | Bet your're glad you are well away from him |
18:25.16 | Hachiman | I man, he's *very* pretty |
18:25.25 | Hachiman | mean* |
18:26.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: Wait, was that my IRC client translating pounds into BJs or |
18:26.47 | Hachiman | Nope |
18:27.26 | Imperios | OOOH |
18:27.42 | Imperios | You got me interested here |
18:27.56 | Hachiman | He's not like an old flame or anything hur |
18:28.29 | Hachiman | He's just some nice, goth guy who I used to work with and sit next to on my multimedia course |
18:32.41 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Are you familiar with the conspiracy of "transvestigation"? |
18:33.16 | Hachiman | Only vaguely |
18:35.27 | Wormy_ | I'm not convinced its not Poe's law, but I found this small community obsessed with looking at the facial features of celebrities and reveal they are having inward identity battles |
18:38.00 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-q2m59-f_M |
18:41.03 | Wormy_ | srsly m8 https://twitter.com/HandsomeClaris/status/838678139668553728 |
18:42.22 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/yogazombies/status/843137063436402689 |
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19:03.16 | Wormy_ | I'd like to watch this series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wvAQGxWRQQ |
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19:19.22 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Bollocks, don't get to see Stef during her training |
19:19.48 | Wormy_ | Her training? |
19:20.14 | Hachiman | Baxter could have easily dedicated a few of those chapters where Angelia flies through space to showing Stef growing up and dealing with her father's incarceration |
19:20.34 | Hachiman | Yeah, Act 3 says that she's a full professor and officer now |
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19:39.54 | DrodoEmpire | yoo rofl |
19:40.54 | Hachiman | Hi |
19:41.09 | Hachiman | Sent you a message on Skupe |
19:41.14 | Hachiman | Skype, rather |
19:41.17 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, right |
19:41.21 | DrodoEmpire | I'll load it up |
19:41.26 | DrodoEmpire | I think it crashed sometime ago |
19:44.09 | Wormy_ | I've found a bizzare-arse site http://educate-yourself.org/mc/preventalienmilitaryabductionsapr05.shtml |
19:44.44 | Ghelaway | DrodoEmpire: Thanks for responding in that thread on my wall; I don't know why I didn't ask you about it directly. |
19:46.04 | DrodoEmpire | Aye no problem |
19:58.13 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Reading the chapters on Proxima with Yuri and ColU settling the world gives me some insight into how difficult it must actually be to terraform an alien world |
19:59.42 | Wormy_ | I think it would be difficult to live on during the terraforming process |
20:01.38 | Wormy_ | Though, a recent conference at NASA had two rival panels, one making a argument Mars could be terraformed relatively quickly, the other artuing it was infeasible and we're better off building big space habitats |
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20:01.52 | Methanogen | Hello |
20:01.54 | Hachiman | Hi Meth |
20:02.04 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Best solution is... both |
20:02.15 | Wormy_ | depends on who is speculating, and also the length at which the p;lanet must be terraformed |
20:02.28 | Hachiman | I mean, fuck, we could do some shit with Venus if we wanted |
20:03.15 | Methanogen | What's the conversation about? |
20:04.15 | OluapPlayer | We can barely go to the Moon, terraforming is far from our reach |
20:04.38 | Hachiman | A manned terraformation operation, perhaps |
20:04.50 | Hachiman | An unmanned terraformation operation, however, is far more feasible |
20:05.00 | Technobliterator | The current plan is to get to the moon by the 2030s or so |
20:05.10 | Methanogen | Terraforming is difficult |
20:05.10 | Technobliterator | When are they going to make a space elevator :| |
20:05.13 | OluapPlayer | It'd still take a generation or more to achieve anything |
20:05.21 | OluapPlayer | Even more if you try and terraform Venus |
20:05.24 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: When we get to the moon |
20:05.27 | OluapPlayer | The place is a hellhole in every aspect |
20:05.39 | Hachiman | You cannot build a space elevator on Earth; if you did, it'd be incredibly fucking difficult |
20:05.44 | Methanogen | Good luck getting anything on Venus for more than a day without it melting and getting crushed |
20:05.48 | Hachiman | You'd have more luck building from the moon |
20:05.48 | Technobliterator | Really? Huh |
20:06.10 | Technobliterator | I heard that we basically needed one to solve the problem of rocket propulsion to leave the surface being so stupidly expensive |
20:06.18 | Technobliterator | and polluting |
20:06.23 | Hachiman | Gravity is a problem |
20:06.38 | OluapPlayer | geez spaceship stop being such a fatty |
20:06.41 | Hachiman | As is shit like debris which you can probably find more of in Earth's atmosphere than the moon's |
20:07.03 | Hachiman | Turning the moon into a station for spacefaring vessels is a smarter idea |
20:07.30 | Methanogen | The problem is no matter what we do we're going to have to launch from earth heaps before we can get anywhere near using even just a space station or the moon for it |
20:07.38 | Hachiman | Aye |
20:07.53 | Hachiman | We also don't have the necessary construction materials for a space elevator just yet - carbon nanofibres and all that iirc |
20:08.39 | Methanogen | Space elevator would be way too difficult and expensive to be practical in my opinion |
20:09.56 | Wormy_ | The problem is large-scale manufacture of carbon nanofibres, and fibres without defects, the existence of which severely reduce the tensile strength |
20:10.17 | Wormy_ | However, modern materials could be used to construct one on the Moon |
20:10.51 | Wormy_ | And might be useful when we have robots scooping up debris and returning them to Earth or some space manufacturing facility |
20:11.05 | Methanogen | I do wonder what the point of building one on the moon is though at least In the near future |
20:11.46 | Methanogen | Maybe it'd be useful for that idk |
20:12.22 | DrodoEmpire | I think the era of space colonisation's only a generation or two off, perhaps three. It could easily be within our lifetimes. |
20:12.25 | Wormy_ | I think there's more and more interesting in space mining, and like I say the Moon has billions of years of meteoritic material, a lot of which will be rare earth elements |
20:12.34 | DrodoEmpire | My primary concern is -who- will be doing it. |
20:12.35 | Wormy_ | *more and more interest |
20:12.39 | Hachiman | Because less gravity on the Moon = easier to build large structures there like space elevators rather than on Earth |
20:12.57 | Methanogen | True, although it's also easier to get off of the moon without one as a result as well |
20:13.04 | DrodoEmpire | I want colonisation to be in the hands, ultimately, of nations, with lots of international cooperation, not corporations |
20:13.15 | Methanogen | And since the moon barely has an atmosphere... |
20:13.16 | Hachiman | inb4 Russia |
20:13.19 | DrodoEmpire | Because, if you think corporations are too powerful an institution now... |
20:13.23 | Wormy_ | Unfortunately that damn space treaty |
20:13.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
20:13.28 | Methanogen | Yeah |
20:13.33 | DrodoEmpire | Abolish that fucking garbage treaty |
20:13.51 | Methanogen | The problem is good luck getting some nations to fully cooperate |
20:13.53 | Hachiman | Trump pls do it |
20:13.56 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:14.12 | Wormy_ | "I can't think of a better application for nuclear weapons that to put them in space" Carl Sagan (on nuclear pulse propulsion) |
20:14.14 | DrodoEmpire | Replace it with a new one that opens space up to national interests and enforces a good degree of international cooperation |
20:14.15 | Hachiman | Abolish the treaty so you can send the Jews and the Mexicans to space |
20:14.18 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:14.27 | Imperios | Hachiman: Don't forget the Muslims |
20:14.29 | Methanogen | I can just imagine them cooperatively building colonies for a bit then five years later having a massive war |
20:14.31 | OluapPlayer | talk turned into hot garbage pretty quick |
20:14.38 | DrodoEmpire | ((((((((((((((((((((NASA)))))))))))))))))))) |
20:14.40 | Imperios | Actually since the Turkish flag depicts the crescent |
20:14.42 | Hachiman | I was kidding hur |
20:14.44 | Imperios | Send the Turks there |
20:14.59 | Imperios | I am saying this and I have a shitton of Turkic friends |
20:15.16 | DrodoEmpire | Methanogen: Eh, space colonisation will be expensive, at least at first |
20:15.25 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not too worried about colonial warfare personally |
20:15.29 | Wormy_ | I think Britain could establish an empire in space again. The East Lunar Company or something |
20:15.29 | Methanogen | Of course it will |
20:15.42 | Wormy_ | There's going to be a spaceport built soon |
20:15.44 | Hachiman | Need to get our ass to Mars |
20:15.54 | OluapPlayer | welcome to mars, we have rocks, sand and cold |
20:15.58 | Hachiman | Also, we should focus on getting to Europa |
20:16.19 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:16.19 | Hachiman | So we can kill the intelligent octopuses there while they are still in their early stages of social development |
20:16.20 | OluapPlayer | welcome to europa, we have ice and enough radiation to make chernobyl look like fucking child's play |
20:16.22 | Methanogen | Welcome to Europa, we have ice and water and heaps of radiation and possibly some stuff in the water who knows |
20:16.40 | Imperios | Send the Europeans to Europa |
20:16.45 | Methanogen | I like how intelkigenf octopi in Europa is basically what my Eriaroons are.... |
20:16.52 | Methanogen | *intelligent |
20:16.55 | Imperios | Actually, yes |
20:17.02 | Imperios | Send Muslims to the Moon and Europeans to Europe |
20:17.03 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Europa, the huwhitest place in space |
20:17.05 | Imperios | Europa |
20:17.08 | OluapPlayer | off you go then |
20:17.24 | Wormy_ | I think Pluto should belong to Russia |
20:17.24 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Europa, more like the Rock of Oppression |
20:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
20:17.33 | Methanogen | Send idk somebody really unlucky to Venus |
20:17.40 | Hachiman | I mean, hey |
20:17.48 | DrodoEmpire | North Korea can have Venus <.< |
20:17.50 | Hachiman | Atmospheric settlements could be a thing |
20:18.07 | OluapPlayer | Way beyond our current capabilities |
20:18.09 | Methanogen | Nah they can't afford it they can have mercury instead |
20:18.10 | Wormy_ | Titan should belong to Texas |
20:18.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:18.18 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
20:18.33 | Hachiman | That or establish atmospheric settlements and facilities around Jupiter |
20:18.42 | Hachiman | And make friendly contact with the flying whales there |
20:18.50 | OluapPlayer | even farther away from our current capabilities |
20:18.59 | Methanogen | Atmospheric sttelejrs ars very very difficult |
20:19.06 | Methanogen | One misstep and the whole thing goes down |
20:19.15 | DrodoEmpire | Actually if Europa turns out to be inhabited by space-fish you -know- Canada and Spain will have a scrap there <.< |
20:19.20 | Methanogen | Especially with the massive winds of Jupiter |
20:19.37 | OluapPlayer | And the fact it's the space equivalent of Elephant's Foot |
20:19.42 | Methanogen | Then we'll have heaps of people going "save the space fish" |
20:19.54 | DrodoEmpire | Turbot War: Round II |
20:20.01 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
20:20.38 | Wormy_ | Mars = China? |
20:21.11 | Methanogen | Since it's red I guess so |
20:21.20 | Wormy_ | That's what I'm thinking |
20:21.36 | Methanogen | The US can have idk somewhere |
20:21.49 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: The glory of Juche will protect them from the heat |
20:21.53 | OluapPlayer | they can dive straight into the nearest black hole |
20:21.54 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:22.03 | DrodoEmpire | Oluap: > |
20:22.04 | Imperios | ^^ |
20:22.05 | DrodoEmpire | *>: |
20:22.05 | Imperios | ^^^^ |
20:22.05 | Hachiman | I feel like Jupiter and Saturn's moons would make nice holiday resorts |
20:22.18 | Methanogen | Except for the whole radiation thing maybe |
20:22.21 | DrodoEmpire | If they're suicidal-- yes! |
20:22.27 | Methanogen | Io: Kike colvanoes? |
20:22.31 | Methanogen | *like volcanoes |
20:22.31 | OluapPlayer | "It's just like Chernobyl, but 500x more powerful!" |
20:22.35 | Methanogen | Europa: like ice? |
20:22.40 | Hachiman | I always forget that radiation is a thing hur |
20:22.42 | Methanogen | Ganymede: like giant rocks? |
20:23.00 | Methanogen | Callisto? Like...slightly magnetic rocks? |
20:23.02 | OluapPlayer | The big main moons themselves are irradiated enough to kill humans in the surface |
20:23.11 | OluapPlayer | You'd die before you even reach Jupiter's atmosphere |
20:23.30 | Imperios | Hachiman: We should send Ukrainians to Jupiter's moons, they're already raditation-resistant because of Chernobyl |
20:23.35 | Imperios | They'll send stalkers there |
20:23.37 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
20:23.38 | Methanogen | I like how my main concern now is trying to explain how my species survived such radiation.... |
20:23.43 | Wormy_ | Now we know where Donald Trump goes to get a tan https://tinyurl.com/mgynzal |
20:23.46 | Wormy_ | (Mars) |
20:23.48 | OluapPlayer | Just another day in the Zone |
20:24.38 | Hachiman | One thing that bothers me is how are we gonna terraform the shit out of these worlds enough to get rid of the radiation |
20:25.15 | OluapPlayer | We're not |
20:25.30 | OluapPlayer | We either find a way to shield ourselves or we die |
20:25.51 | Hachiman | Well, I hear that cockroaches are highly resistant to radiation |
20:25.55 | Hachiman | Imperios: Send the Turks |
20:26.10 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
20:26.18 | OluapPlayer | I'm pretty sure the entire cockroach thing is a myth |
20:26.23 | Imperios | Yep, perfect decision |
20:26.32 | Hachiman | I mean, I dunno, I could believe it |
20:26.43 | Hachiman | Cockroaches are stupidly tough |
20:27.11 | OluapPlayer | Though I wouldn't be against getting all the rockroaches on Earth and tossing them into Jupiter |
20:27.15 | OluapPlayer | Disgusting little shits |
20:27.18 | Wormy_ | Underground cities are the best bit for Mars-like worlds without a global and extensive magnetosphere, no amount of terraforming can help that |
20:27.42 | OluapPlayer | Yeah, even if we terraform Mars, the atmosphere is gonna disperse over time |
20:27.46 | Wormy_ | Ozone and a thicker atmosphere could block some ultraviolet though |
20:27.46 | OluapPlayer | That's another problem |
20:28.16 | Wormy_ | Yes, it would need to be constantly managed for the time humans remain on it |
20:28.28 | Hachiman | Sounds more expensive than it's worth tbh |
20:28.39 | OluapPlayer | Hence beyond our current capabilities |
20:28.45 | Hachiman | Meanwhile, melting Mars' underground ice could make for awesome hydroponics facilities |
20:28.58 | Methanogen | Gtg |
20:29.10 | OluapPlayer | Even if you put a bunch of factories on Mars to create an atmosphere, the process would take centuries |
20:29.20 | Wormy_ | Tha's the argument on the NASA panel for a space habitat over terraforming Mars. It may be possible to create magnetic shields around such structures |
20:29.59 | Wormy_ | And I like Mars as it is tbh |
20:30.48 | Wormy_ | I'm okay with terraforming exoplanets but I like the solar system as it is |
20:31.06 | Hachiman | There is something strangely beautiful about the worlds of our homesystem |
20:31.18 | OluapPlayer | got bad news for u then |
20:31.40 | OluapPlayer | No way terraforming exoplanets will be even considered before attempting them where we can actually reach |
20:32.50 | Wormy_ | I believe it is possible to reach those planets. It may take longer but its not like I'll be stepping on Mars without a breathing mask and pressure suit in my lifetime anyway |
20:33.05 | Hachiman | True |
20:33.27 | Wormy_ | Its not likely I'll ever step on Mars even if other people will. I will be a frail old man |
20:34.28 | Hachiman | I wouldn't mind living to become a centenarian if I get the chance to set foot on another world |
20:34.38 | Hachiman | I shall be driven by the power of hate alone |
20:34.45 | Hachiman | Like most old people |
20:34.53 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
20:35.20 | Wormy_ | hejh, I let an old man on the bus before me lately and he had a go because he thought I was treating him weakly |
20:35.29 | Wormy_ | you can't win with old people |
20:37.13 | OluapPlayer | You might be just a bunch of sour britbongs |
20:37.24 | Hachiman | Implying I'm not that already |
20:37.41 | Hachiman | I'm the kind of person who will probably develop wrinkles in his 20s |
20:40.16 | Wormy_ | What's a britbong? |
20:40.36 | Hachiman | A British person; bong = the sound Big Ben makes |
20:40.41 | Wormy_ | ah |
20:40.53 | Wormy_ | We aren't all defined by London hur |
20:40.59 | OluapPlayer | the word couldn't be anymore self-explanatory |
20:44.07 | Wormy_ | Britbong land can be very sour though |
20:44.32 | Hachiman | Britbondland IS very sour |
20:44.34 | Wormy_ | unless its sunny, then everyone runs outside and says hello to each other |
20:48.18 | Imperios | Wow |
20:48.25 | Imperios | So THAT is where the term Britbong comes from? |
20:48.34 | Imperios | Huh |
20:49.04 | Imperios | Weird, the main ethnic slur for Russians also comes from the capital |
20:49.07 | Imperios | Moskal, as in Moscow |
20:49.10 | Wormy_ | All I could thing of was a bong |
20:49.12 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/NtWlwZQ.png i'm pretty sure bong comes from this greentext |
20:49.12 | Imperios | A man from Moscow |
20:51.10 | Wormy_ | we're not all divided into cockney speaking chimney sweeps and tophat wearing tophs |
20:51.35 | OluapPlayer | ye you are, we're just living it so you don't notice it |
20:51.39 | OluapPlayer | *you're just |
20:52.47 | Wormy_ | What about the quintisential Yorkshire men https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41EHf2wHqML.jpg |
20:52.49 | OluapPlayer | In an unrelated note, yesterday I was just chilling when suddenly a pigeon threw itself into my window |
20:52.55 | OluapPlayer | Scared the shit out of me |
20:53.02 | Hachiman | olol |
20:53.10 | Hachiman | That happened on the first day I came to France |
20:53.20 | OluapPlayer | Luckily the window was closed, otherwise it'd have gotten in |
20:53.35 | OluapPlayer | A pigeon got into my room once and the whole place smelled like bird for the rest of the day |
20:55.04 | Wormy_ | When the birds decide to gang up and kill us, we're doomed |
20:55.59 | Hachiman | inb4 Birdemic |
20:56.11 | Hachiman | And all they'd need to do is weaponize bird flu |
20:56.32 | Wormy_ | be afraid http://reachingformore.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341e223753ef0192abfb10e2970d-pi |
20:57.49 | OluapPlayer | We've killed the most numerous pigeon species once, I think we're fine against birds |
20:57.59 | OluapPlayer | Except Australia against emus |
20:58.54 | Wormy_ | There's a bird that attacks the eyes and throat specifically in Australia |
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21:01.28 | Monet | hi |
21:01.38 | Wormy_ | ohi |
21:01.46 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
21:12.03 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Praestol#Important_Locations Blam |
21:12.25 | Hachiman | I am afraid I shall have to read properly later |
21:12.40 | Hachiman | It's late over here and I do require my 'beauty' sleep |
21:14.32 | Imperios | You mean ugliness sleep |
21:14.39 | Wormy_ | you used to say sleep is for the weak lol |
21:15.11 | Monet | "tower of Seven" sounds quite grand. |
21:15.23 | Hachiman | I did used to say 'sleep is for the weak' |
21:15.29 | Hachiman | Now I say 'sleep is for the week' |
21:15.51 | Hachiman | Also, that name reminds me of a Tarot |
21:15.55 | Hachiman | Oh he's gone |
21:15.57 | Hachiman | ;-; |
21:16.08 | Hachiman | Anywho, if you need me, contact me via Skype or something |
21:16.35 | Monet | Probably the seven seals of the Appocalypse |
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21:46.30 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39381889 |
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22:01.24 | Wormy_ | hi |
22:02.01 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
22:38.29 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ZKfRv |
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