| 00:00.33 | Monet | It does however sound bizarre yes for a single city to have more of a certain population as a local minority group than residents of their homeland. |
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| 00:07.34 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/AdQGD |
| 00:09.08 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/qbWAVEz.jpg |
| 00:10.15 | Monet | "A family's first AirBnB experience goes very wrong" |
| 00:10.29 | Monet | 5/5 chainsaws will get chased around by my dad again. |
| 00:11.56 | Monet | I tried reading Fight Club |
| 00:12.48 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/RHgPzGY.jpg |
| 00:13.11 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.59 | Monet | Wormy_: Wait...What does that mean for the plot description of Dark Knight if the Joker is rich? |
| 00:14.44 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:41.58 | Wormy_ | Good feeling when you are near maximum word count |
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| 05:22.20 | Methanogen | Hello |
| 05:23.36 | Methanogen | Btw I have another creature I need help classifying |
| 05:24.54 | Methanogen | It's a rather unusual one anatomically |
| 05:29.59 | Methanogen | It's close to being an echinoderm but we don't have a category for that I think |
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| 07:01.37 | Methanogen | Hello |
| 07:05.59 | Methanogen | Nobody around? Or am I just impatient |
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| 08:00.50 | Methanogen | Hello |
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| 10:06.55 | Methanogen | Hello |
| 10:24.08 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:24.30 | Methanogen | Ah hi there Ghelae |
| 10:24.56 | Methanogen | I have a new creature to classify and no idea where on earth it should go |
| 10:26.22 | Liquid_Ink | Eukaryota |
| 10:27.31 | Ghelae | The Eriaroon? |
| 10:27.38 | Methanogen | Well yeah |
| 10:27.39 | Methanogen | Yup |
| 10:28.02 | Methanogen | I'm guessing it's closest to a mollusc maybe? I'm not sure |
| 10:30.11 | Ghelae | Yeah, the two taxa most like it are Mollusca and Cnidaria. |
| 10:30.38 | Ghelae | It doesn't fit either of our Cnidarian families, so that suggests Mollusca. |
| 10:30.50 | Ghelae | Specifically, Cephalapoda. |
| 10:30.58 | Ghelae | Cephalopoda* |
| 10:31.21 | Methanogen | That makes sense |
| 10:31.30 | Methanogen | Which part of Cephalopoda? |
| 10:32.49 | Ghelae | It doesn't have much of a shell, so Ammonoidea, Nautiloidea, and Ostraterrapoda are out (those taxa can probably be merged into each other anyway). |
| 10:33.54 | Methanogen | True |
| 10:34.01 | Ghelae | Most of the other taxa describe the number of tentacles: "multiples of two", five, ten (or more), and three. I can't quite figure out how many tentacles the Eriaroon has. |
| 10:34.12 | Methanogen | It has twelve |
| 10:34.19 | Ghelae | But, with a slight change to the description, I think it fits in Argusida: it has eyes, and it has pincers. |
| 10:34.40 | Methanogen | I wonder who came up with multiples of two... |
| 10:34.43 | Methanogen | Hmmmm truuuue |
| 10:35.12 | Ghelae | The only problem is that most Argusids have a huge number of eyes, while the Eriaroon look like they might have about four. |
| 10:35.27 | Ghelae | But that's not a big problem. The description of Sextdecimoculidae still works. |
| 10:35.39 | Methanogen | Yeah they've only got four |
| 10:36.36 | Methanogen | Yeah that seems to fit |
| 10:36.41 | Methanogen | Thanks for the help |
| 10:39.56 | Methanogen | It must be a nightmare trying to classify a lot of creatures on the wiki |
| 10:40.58 | Ghelae | Not usually, but reorganising the taxonomy when there's a problem can be hard work. |
| 10:41.11 | Methanogen | Ah I see |
| 10:41.49 | Methanogen | It is annoying when people end up making entirely new taxons for just one creature? Sometimes I see taxons that have literally no creatures in them even |
| 10:43.26 | Ghelae | Monospecific taxa are the main problem. |
| 10:43.38 | Methanogen | And those super specific ones.... |
| 10:43.41 | Methanogen | That makes sense |
| 10:43.47 | Ghelae | Taxa with no species should be deleted, so if you see one, feel free to either let me know here or just add {{delete}} to the page. |
| 10:44.08 | Methanogen | Got it |
| 10:44.14 | Methanogen | I'll see if I can find it |
| 10:48.44 | Methanogen | Can't seem to find it right now |
| 10:49.50 | Methanogen | Ghelae, what kind of creatures do you normally have? |
| 10:50.40 | Ghelae | A lot of creatures I've added to the wiki were ones I made playing Spore, and added them to bulk out the "galaxy" that I used to have: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Girdo_Galaxy/Species |
| 10:51.05 | Methanogen | Ah so you have quite a collection I'm guessing |
| 10:51.19 | Ghelae | There are also a few fairly alien ones, which I specifically made by making them terrestrial in origin: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Shuénsom |
| 10:51.58 | Methanogen | Basically all of mine so far are very alien creatures |
| 10:52.13 | Ghelae | My other fiction is linked to in the navbox you can find at the bottom of both of those pages. |
| 10:53.17 | Methanogen | I see I'll make sure to look into it |
| 10:54.13 | Methanogen | I should probably get a navbox, it'll be useful when I have more than two pages to navigate |
| 10:55.53 | Methanogen | You have quite a lot of stuff it seems |
| 10:56.21 | Ghelae | The number of pages that I have is fairly small compared to a lot of people. |
| 10:56.40 | Methanogen | True some people seem to have thousands |
| 10:56.46 | Methanogen | But compared to me it's a lot |
| 10:56.56 | Ghelae | Take a look at http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/CyraBox for example. |
| 10:58.03 | Methanogen | That is a pretty huge amount of stuff.... |
| 10:58.07 | Ghelae | That being said, I would have a lot more entries if I included every collab I'd participated in. |
| 10:58.20 | Methanogen | Ahhh |
| 10:58.37 | Methanogen | If I included that I'd still have two pages |
| 10:58.59 | Methanogen | Need to work on actually societies before I do anything however |
| 10:59.17 | Ghelae | Well, you've been here less than a week. I've been here nearly 7 1/2 years. |
| 11:00.02 | Methanogen | True...pretty massive time difference |
| 11:00.29 | Methanogen | I just hope to make my stuff as interesting as possible |
| 11:00.38 | Ghelae | You've made a good start. |
| 11:00.50 | Methanogen | Thanks, I'm glad you think so |
| 11:01.04 | Ghelae | Further looking at cephalapoda, Argusida might end up being merged into another category. One of its two families is monospecific. |
| 11:01.26 | Methanogen | It is? |
| 11:02.11 | Methanogen | Ah true |
| 11:02.37 | Methanogen | Would it be merged with Duocephalopoda or something? |
| 11:02.54 | Ghelae | Yes. In fact, I'm now starting to wonder whether it's worth having Cephalopoda as a class. It's practically at the point where you can divide it into a few categories based on whether it has a shell or, if not, how many tentacles it has. |
| 11:03.32 | Methanogen | True |
| 11:03.41 | Ghelae | Another classification scheme might be better. |
| 11:04.10 | Methanogen | Maybe divide molluscs into having shells and not having them or something? Would Gastropoda still exist after changes? |
| 11:05.27 | Ghelae | Gastrapoda might, but I'll really need to look into it. |
| 11:05.46 | Ghelae | Basically every real-world type of animal besides arthropods and vertebrates are scacely represented on the wiki. |
| 11:05.56 | Methanogen | True they are |
| 11:06.07 | Methanogen | There's not too many say octopi or worms around |
| 11:07.14 | Methanogen | Just a couple of them |
| 11:07.43 | Methanogen | So a lot of entire orders have only a few things in them with weird divergence points |
| 11:09.44 | Methanogen | Like "has sixteen or more eyes and more grow throughout their life" |
| 11:10.41 | Methanogen | And we end up with a few very similar taxons in totally different areas |
| 11:10.54 | Ghelae | I'm thinking of making an "Invertebrata" phylum to lump all real world non-arthropod non-chordates together. |
| 11:11.19 | Methanogen | Hmmmmmmm |
| 11:11.38 | Methanogen | So we'd have chordate, segmented invertebrates and non-segmented invertebrates |
| 11:11.45 | Ghelae | Yes. |
| 11:11.58 | Ghelae | And Cryptia, for really strange things. |
| 11:12.02 | Methanogen | And cryptia I guess |
| 11:12.03 | Methanogen | Yeah |
| 11:12.30 | Methanogen | Hmmmm I support that given how relatively few things are in mollusca and vermes |
| 11:13.28 | Methanogen | Honestly I think current taxonomy has a lot of basis on real creatures but here we often don't have enough to really justify a specific taxon for just say nautiluses |
| 11:14.29 | Ghelae | Exactly. |
| 11:14.49 | Methanogen | And we get a lot of super specific ones that only have one thing in them |
| 11:15.13 | Methanogen | So by merging a lot of these together we could help prevent that |
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| 11:15.45 | Methanogen | Hello |
| 11:17.11 | Methanogen | It's figuring out what to merge and what to use as divergence points that we have an issue. Along with actually spending the time actually changing all this stuff. |
| 11:20.15 | Methanogen | I guess the goal is to have as few taxons as possible while still providing enough for every creature to have some classification to fit it |
| 11:21.09 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:21.12 | NeonPanda | that's prettymuch the essence of taxonomy in a nutshell |
| 11:21.22 | NeonPanda | as much information with as little complication as possible |
| 11:21.51 | Methanogen | In that case I'd support the Invertebrata idea |
| 11:21.58 | Ghelae | NeonPanda: The news is that, having seen that there are so few real-world-like non-arthropod non-chordates, we're merging non-segmented invertebrates into a single phylum. |
| 11:22.24 | NeonPanda | makes sense |
| 11:24.04 | Methanogen | We have a lot of super specific taxons just before the genus that I wish I knew the proper term for, hopefully this can help with that in some way |
| 11:25.44 | Methanogen | Actually, what separates Mollusca and Vermes anyway? The body shape? |
| 11:27.38 | Ghelae | Pretty much. Gastropods can be merged into Vermes. |
| 11:28.20 | Methanogen | So we'd have elongated non-segmented invertebrates and non-enlongated non-segmented invertebrates |
| 11:30.43 | Methanogen | I have to go, nice talking to you all |
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| 11:58.30 | NeonPanda | hi oluap |
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| 12:04.36 | Methanogen | Hello |
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| 12:36.25 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: >tfw when even KJ doubts you |
| 12:36.46 | OluapPlayer | Man that trailer was good |
| 12:37.28 | OluapPlayer | The tone kinda made it look like KJ has some regrets over his decisions |
| 12:37.33 | OluapPlayer | At least that's how I saw it |
| 12:38.31 | ImpyDroid | I think the Pandarian trailers have not been overdone yet |
| 12:38.48 | ImpyDroid | 5.2 and 5.4 man |
| 12:40.27 | OluapPlayer | What was 5.2 again? The Thunder King trailer? |
| 12:41.40 | ImpyDroid | ye |
| 12:42.36 | OluapPlayer | That was pretty good, yah |
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| 12:54.05 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Strangely there is a lot of comments about Warhammer on the Russian version of the traile |
| 12:54.15 | ImpyDroid | "Oh look the Imperium has arrived from the Warp" |
| 12:55.02 | OluapPlayer | Considering the fact the Legion has SPACESHIPS and Kil'jaeden kinda looks like a Bloodthirster, I'm not surprised |
| 13:04.14 | ImpyDroid | Their spaceships actually look kind of Warhammeru |
| 13:04.22 | ImpyDroid | Warhammery even |
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| 14:46.45 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:47.37 | OluapPlayer | aa |
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| 16:30.32 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 16:33.36 | Wormydroid | Its that difficult point of the year when the coat is too warm for the Sun but temperature drops at night or it could rain |
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| 17:08.40 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 17:08.53 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 17:09.00 | Hachiman | Bout to have dinner so can't hang around |
| 17:12.10 | Technobliterator | I just finished Horizon Zero Dawn |
| 17:12.15 | Technobliterator | Ridiculously amazing game |
| 17:17.03 | Hachiman | I'd have thought it wouldn't be as popular as it was |
| 17:17.20 | Hachiman | Seems like it's actually almost as popular as BotW based on what people have said about it |
| 17:17.49 | Technobliterator | Why not? |
| 17:18.03 | Hachiman | They said that it releasing just days away from BotW would be like the equivalent of "video game suicide" but it seems HZD has been surprisingly successful |
| 17:18.35 | Hachiman | Gonna be honest, I thought it looked neat but also thought it was a "gimmick game", if you get my drift |
| 17:18.51 | Technobliterator | Well, lots of people who played HZD do not have a Switch or Wii U to play BotW with |
| 17:18.51 | Hachiman | And that it'd get boring after a few hours and some such but that's just from an outsider's perspective |
| 17:19.08 | Technobliterator | I had no idea what to expect from HZD, but it definitely didn't end up boring me |
| 17:19.21 | Technobliterator | It's the first game since FFXV that I actually want to 100% and do all the sidequests in |
| 17:19.31 | Technobliterator | most open world games tire me out before I can finish them |
| 17:19.41 | Hachiman | Hopefully the story was better than FFXV :p |
| 17:19.49 | Technobliterator | It was much better than FFXV |
| 17:19.49 | Hachiman | Or rather, the storytelling |
| 17:20.01 | Hachiman | FFXV's story is good but the storytelling is fucking abominable |
| 17:20.03 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
| 17:20.05 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 17:20.14 | Technobliterator | It reeks of a game with tons of development issues |
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| 17:20.21 | Technobliterator | I need to bbl, getting the train home |
| 17:20.27 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 17:20.50 | Wormydroid | Seeing a musician later who destroys the instruments as he uses them |
| 17:21.12 | Wormydroid | With saws etc |
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| 18:29.21 | Wormydroid | Test |
| 18:30.18 | Wormydroid | Gosh golly. I'm still connected somehow |
| 18:37.16 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: https://twitter.com/IGN/status/845168328482045953 |
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| 19:00.42 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 19:00.46 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
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| 19:51.01 | Monet | Hi |
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| 19:53.35 | Methanogen | Hello |
| 19:55.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hi guys |
| 19:56.48 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 19:56.50 | Methanogen | Hi drodo |
| 20:05.48 | Monet | hi |
| 20:06.36 | Methanogen | Lots of people are saying hi |
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| 20:07.21 | Methanogen | Hi |
| 20:07.36 | Wormydroid | At a gig, about to see a musician that smashes instruments as he uses them |
| 20:07.54 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 20:07.57 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 20:08.21 | Wormydroid | He gets creative with saws and shit |
| 20:08.39 | Wormydroid | Willy Barrett |
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| 20:11.40 | Wormydroid_ | Hi |
| 20:11.45 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 20:15.07 | Wormydroid_ | My friends planning to give toe tax lol if he passes her |
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| 21:07.15 | Tek0516 | Some Space Engine thing went viral on Reddit today. O.o The sub only had ~15k ssubscribers and this post is currently sitting at almost 60k upvotes. |
| 21:07.52 | DrodoEmpire | O.O |
| 21:07.54 | DrodoEmpire | What thing? |
| 21:09.20 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: https://www.reddit.com/r/spaceengine/comments/617ajb/for_every_upvote_this_gets_in_the_next_24_hours/ |
| 21:09.43 | Tek0516 | By chance the Space Engine website was also compromised today. >.> |
| 21:09.50 | DrodoEmpire | Holy shit |
| 21:10.03 | DrodoEmpire | This is a big break for the game |
| 21:10.17 | DrodoEmpire | Just in terms of exposute |
| 21:10.28 | DrodoEmpire | Forget whether or not buddy follows through with donating |
| 21:11.37 | Tek0516 | When you factor in the math with downvotes that post has around 100k votes |
| 21:11.55 | DrodoEmpire | Shiiit |
| 21:12.00 | DrodoEmpire | That really blew up |
| 21:12.55 | Tek0516 | Unsurprisingly it was at the top of /r/all for most of today |
| 21:13.06 | DrodoEmpire | Nice |
| 21:14.40 | Tek0516 | Wonder how much in donations they'll get from the exposure |
| 21:33.59 | DrodoEmpire | tes |
| 21:34.01 | DrodoEmpire | t |
| 21:35.25 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Your message is breaking up. :p |
| 21:35.34 | DrodoEmpire | hur yeah my mistake |
| 21:37.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm one fiction thing... interaction I guess, I'd -really- like to see is to have the Drodo interact in a significant way with like a hyper-materialist people whose ideology leans into scientism and the like |
| 21:37.31 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be a case of polar opposites really |
| 21:37.36 | DrodoEmpire | Or almost polar |
| 21:40.01 | Tek0516 | I have tried to push Farengeto that way a bit |
| 21:40.45 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 21:43.35 | Tek0516 | Though Farengeto basically consists of a pile of assorted plot arcs and ideas I never got around to writing |
| 21:43.55 | DrodoEmpire | Right >.< |
| 21:46.13 | Tek0516 | Like what's supposed to be one of the big ones with Farengeto where there's an AI secretly running most of it. :P |
| 21:46.23 | DrodoEmpire | Oh shit |
| 21:46.48 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - DAVID ICKE WAS RIGHT |
| 21:46.50 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 22:01.57 | Tek0516 | Well it's not genocidal or anything. :P But only a select few are even aware of the fact. |
| 22:32.43 | DrodoEmpire | Right hur |
| 22:32.55 | DrodoEmpire | I' |
| 22:33.33 | DrodoEmpire | *I was more thinking a pretty fanatical expression of that sorta thing-- what you might call a "soulless" hyperbureaucratic technocracy or something |
| 22:33.58 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose Motive fits the bill nicely |
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| 22:50.50 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 22:55.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 23:28.18 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: "hyperbureacratic" > Have you not seen my infographic? :P http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/ce/FTC_infographic.png/revision/latest?cb=20150319024513 |
| 23:28.35 | DrodoEmpire | olol fair |
| 23:29.33 | Tek0516 | I should try doing some FTC stuff this weekend, even just expanding its page |
| 23:30.57 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:31.01 | DrodoEmpire | Definitely |
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| 23:35.57 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 23:41.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 23:43.29 | Wormydroid_ | Lol http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-3938214 |
| 23:45.00 | Wormydroid_ | Buckfast looks fuj |
| 23:45.08 | Wormydroid_ | Fun |
| 23:45.43 | Tek0516 | The Space Engine post is up to 58.7k upvotes now. O.o |
| 23:46.14 | Wormydroid_ | What's this? |
| 23:46.29 | Wormydroid_ | The post, not se obviously |
| 23:46.56 | Tek0516 | Wormydroid_: Reddit post for the SE subreddit that went viral today. https://www.reddit.com/r/spaceengine/comments/617ajb/for_every_upvote_this_gets_in_the_next_24_hours/ |
| 23:47.04 | Wormydroid_ | Ooh |
| 23:47.20 | Tek0516 | It's score is almost four times that of the subreddit's subscribers. XD |
| 23:49.20 | Tek0516 | Wormydroid_: And when you factor in downvotes it's almost 120k votes for a subreddit of 15k. XD |
| 23:49.30 | *** join/#sporewiki ZF101 (4933de11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.51.222.17) |
| 23:49.43 | Wormydroid_ | $1 each, fekin el' that's generous |
| 23:50.06 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
| 23:51.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 23:51.49 | Tek0516 | Wormy: Hell even if 1 in 100 people who upvoted donated $1 that's still almost $1,000. |
