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09:21.26 | Hachiman | Hi |
09:21.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:33.16 | Hachiman | Ghelae: How do you reckon life would be like for a young adult who suffers from, to some degree, an absence of the concept of object permanence? |
10:34.06 | Ghelae | I imagine it would be difficult. |
10:34.27 | Ghelae | Not knowing where food is kept in the house because they don't realise it continues to exist once they've shut the fridge door. |
10:34.55 | Ghelae | Thinking that the people they know disappear once they go out of sight. |
10:35.45 | Ghelae | Generally not knowing that something exists when you're not looking for it, such that they wouldn't even think to look for it. |
10:36.34 | Hachiman | I've just been fascinated by this concept and I wanted to know what sorta consequences there would be for a character who suffers from this kinda thing |
10:36.39 | Ghelae | The whole concept of storage makes no sense unless they counteract their lack of object permanence by also thinking that storage magically produces things. |
10:36.44 | Hachiman | Or if this kinda thing actually happens to people irl |
10:37.11 | Ghelae | So I suppose you would look in a fridge for food if, rather than object permanence, you believe that food is produced by fridges. |
10:37.27 | Ghelae | But then you'd never restock your house. You'd never put money in your wallet, etc. |
10:37.34 | Hachiman | Hm, that's a curious thought |
10:37.43 | Hachiman | I'd suppose you would HAVE to live with assistance |
10:38.06 | Ghelae | You might also never think to empty your bins, except for bins without lins. |
10:39.03 | Ghelae | Pockets might work, if you can always feel that they've got something in them when they're against your skin. |
10:39.41 | Ghelae | You'd always have to make sure to take everything out of them before taking your coat/clothes off, lest they disappear. |
10:39.52 | Ghelae | lest the things in them disappear* |
10:41.01 | Hachiman | Yeah makes sense |
10:41.17 | Hachiman | Man that's really gotta suck |
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10:48.53 | NeonPanda | hi all |
10:49.41 | Hachiman | hI |
10:49.45 | Hachiman | Whoops caps |
10:51.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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11:01.48 | Methanogen | Hello |
11:02.30 | NeonPanda | hello again |
11:02.38 | Methanogen | Hey neon |
11:03.33 | Methanogen | Working on morse creature stuff |
11:03.37 | Methanogen | *more |
11:04.35 | Ghelae | Hello. |
11:04.48 | Methanogen | Hi there ghelae |
11:05.24 | Hachiman | Hi |
11:05.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
11:05.39 | Methanogen | Hey hachiman |
11:05.42 | Methanogen | I've said hi a lot |
11:05.47 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
11:06.04 | Methanogen | Should I just do it once? |
11:06.12 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:221019 - uh |
11:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | I don't suppose anybody knows Korean? |
11:06.38 | Methanogen | I don't |
11:07.02 | Hachiman | Imp should |
11:07.22 | Hachiman | Methanogen: Eh I'd just say hi once for all the people present, but say hi for any people that enter after you or something |
11:07.24 | Hachiman | It's what I do |
11:07.41 | Methanogen | That makes sense |
11:12.15 | Methanogen | Random question: what's the weirdest alien you've seen on the wiki? |
11:12.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
11:13.10 | DrodoEmpire | Tough question |
11:13.14 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean? |
11:13.24 | DrodoEmpire | In terms of culture, or biology, or... |
11:14.25 | Methanogen | In terms of anything really |
11:14.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hm. |
11:15.03 | DrodoEmpire | Well the Dyson Trees are probably up there |
11:15.10 | Methanogen | Honestly I'm basically looking for potential inspiration and such |
11:15.13 | DrodoEmpire | In terms of biology |
11:15.17 | Methanogen | Those sound weird already |
11:15.37 | DrodoEmpire | Culturally well, not to jerk myself off but the Drodo, and along a similar vein the Draconis |
11:15.51 | Methanogen | I see |
11:16.21 | Methanogen | I haven't developed much of my species culturally yet |
11:16.28 | Methanogen | I'm doing the biology part first |
11:17.11 | DrodoEmpire | >Oluap deletes the Korean message from the forum |
11:17.44 | DrodoEmpire | R A C I S S |
11:17.53 | Methanogen | I just a vague idea of what my fiction may look like culturally |
11:17.57 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
11:18.27 | Hachiman | To be fair, it's part of our rules that stuff be approached in English |
11:18.38 | Methanogen | Got to sort out the details and such |
11:18.41 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah yeah I know hur |
11:18.50 | Hachiman | And whatever foreign messages we've had in the past have usually been either shitposting or advertisement |
11:18.55 | DrodoEmpire | True |
11:19.22 | Methanogen | I guess deletion makes sense then |
11:19.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it had a bit.ly that I didn't click, I guess Oluap did or figured it was an ad |
11:19.30 | DrodoEmpire | Or |
11:19.34 | DrodoEmpire | he hates Koreans |
11:19.37 | DrodoEmpire | Take your pick |
11:19.38 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
11:20.29 | Methanogen | Is racism common here? In terms of fiction I mean? |
11:20.46 | DrodoEmpire | I mean I was joking >.< |
11:21.04 | Hachiman | Ah, racism in fiction? It's... not an entirely prominent theme |
11:21.05 | DrodoEmpire | But ethnic tensions are not terribly uncommon |
11:21.18 | DrodoEmpire | But at the same time, yeah not a prominent thing most of the time |
11:21.29 | Hachiman | A lot of larger fictions are actually multicultural and multi-species so |
11:21.30 | Methanogen | Interesting to know |
11:21.37 | Methanogen | Makes sense |
11:21.43 | Methanogen | Mine are single species so far |
11:22.24 | DrodoEmpire | The one major example of ethnic or cultural conflict within a state would be, again, my fiction the Drodo :p |
11:22.32 | Methanogen | Biology first approach tends to cause that I guess |
11:22.39 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
11:22.41 | Methanogen | They have an ethnic conflict now? |
11:22.55 | DrodoEmpire | Well, not just one and it isn't just now |
11:23.26 | Methanogen | Mine...I haven't decided yet honestly |
11:23.27 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo Empire is overwhelmingly composed of just one humanoid species, the Drodo, but they're split along literal hundreds of cultural and ethnic and family lines |
11:23.35 | Methanogen | Ah |
11:24.03 | DrodoEmpire | The Empire is somewhat-shaky in this regard and exists because the federal government is always careful not to force its hand -too- much |
11:24.06 | Methanogen | So they lots of conflict over that |
11:24.08 | Hachiman | Yeah; cus Drodo is too lazy to work on other alien races |
11:24.14 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
11:24.18 | Hachiman | u kno its tru |
11:24.31 | Hachiman | At least you're not too lazy to work at all like I am hur |
11:24.32 | Methanogen | I'm the opposite |
11:24.45 | Methanogen | I like making various aliens |
11:25.03 | DrodoEmpire | Methanogen: Well, the conflict itself isn't always that intense, so its not like its unstable or anarchic |
11:25.04 | Hachiman | I like how you describe your aliens' biology, I gotta say |
11:25.12 | Methanogen | Though my creator skills aren't good |
11:25.12 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah |
11:25.13 | Methanogen | Thanks |
11:25.55 | Methanogen | Although biology is all I have really so far |
11:26.23 | Methanogen | My societies will probably be a little xenophobic given the fact that touching someone of another race will probably kill both of them |
11:26.29 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
11:26.52 | Methanogen | There's always technology to help with that sort of thing I suppose |
11:27.04 | DrodoEmpire | I can probably help a little with society stuff or history, and I could -definitely- help with war related things here and there |
11:27.16 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not an expert in any of these things but they're hobbies I suppose |
11:27.20 | Methanogen | I'd appreciate any help I can get |
11:27.26 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
11:27.36 | Methanogen | I'm not an expert on biology or chemistry by any means but like talking about them I guess |
11:27.47 | Hachiman | I dunno really what I'm good for; literary stuff, I suppose? Character stuff? I dunno |
11:27.51 | Methanogen | It makes aliens seem more alien to me |
11:27.58 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Yeah for sure |
11:28.14 | Methanogen | Haven't even thought of characters yet |
11:28.42 | Methanogen | That's probably going to be my weakness |
11:29.32 | Hachiman | Ah it's fine |
11:29.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its sorta mine to be honest |
11:29.40 | DrodoEmpire | So we're in the same boat there >.< |
11:29.57 | Methanogen | It is? How so? |
11:29.58 | Hachiman | I like to think of myself as being able to write characters at least decently |
11:30.22 | DrodoEmpire | Well I've never been able to seriously develop a "roster" of characters and get them out to do things |
11:30.28 | Methanogen | Ah |
11:30.41 | Methanogen | I'm probably more of a large scale event person myself |
11:30.59 | DrodoEmpire | Usually because they got too old for something to make sense, or I tied them down with political/other obligations |
11:30.59 | Methanogen | Though I guess I might be able to develop characters to a very limited degree of decency |
11:31.03 | Hachiman | We have a good blend of both large-scale and character-driven stuff |
11:31.06 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
11:31.09 | Methanogen | Ah |
11:31.14 | DrodoEmpire | There's something for everybody |
11:31.15 | Methanogen | Well variety is always good |
11:31.36 | Hachiman | Yeah; Fictionverse is actually a fairly diverse setting |
11:32.06 | Methanogen | Any major stuff happening at the moment? |
11:32.17 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
11:32.23 | Hachiman | You can find both humanoid aliens and space fantasy alongside exotic xenobiologies and lots of hard sci-fi elements in the same universe |
11:32.47 | Methanogen | True you can |
11:33.05 | Methanogen | Mine seem to be in the exotic xenobiolgy category mostly |
11:34.37 | Methanogen | I guess some people like to detail every aspect of their races and others make them and just sort of give a brief description of really important features and that's it |
11:36.25 | Methanogen | I personally lean towards the former but I understand why some people prefer to focus more and society and actual events and technology and character etc |
11:37.03 | Hachiman | It's ideal that people write to their strengths really |
11:37.24 | Hachiman | Although as of recent we have had some overlap and people experimenting and whatnot |
11:37.33 | Methanogen | True |
11:37.50 | Methanogen | Well you have to try overcome weakness eventually |
11:39.16 | Hachiman | That's a good mindset, I like that |
11:39.23 | Hachiman | I think you'll fit in here |
11:40.02 | Methanogen | I'm glad that's the case |
11:41.25 | Methanogen | Speaking of weakness, Hachi, what do you believe to be yours? Mine is characters and not getting distracted by a million random ideas |
11:42.17 | Hachiman | Hm |
11:42.26 | Hachiman | I do believe I suffer that latter weakness |
11:42.34 | Hachiman | I get distracted and preoccupied all the time |
11:42.44 | Methanogen | I'm guessing it's a common one |
11:42.48 | Hachiman | And I can barely focus on a single idea |
11:42.55 | Methanogen | I get a billion ideas and end up merging a lot of them together |
11:43.11 | Hachiman | I also have a tendency to overwrite when I do work |
11:43.21 | Hachiman | I generally feel I bite off more than I can chew at times |
11:43.27 | Methanogen | My other weakness is being bad at creating stuff that actually looks good |
11:43.28 | Methanogen | Ah |
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11:43.40 | Methanogen | I can understand that happening |
11:43.41 | Methanogen | Hi |
11:43.59 | Hachiman | Hi |
11:44.52 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
11:45.58 | Methanogen | I just hope to make for my weaknesses by at least having interesting writing |
11:46.43 | Hachiman | Oh you do have interesting writing, definitely |
11:47.07 | Methanogen | Really? I'm glad you think so |
11:47.27 | Hachiman | Like I said, don't be afraid to ask people for help with stuff in regards to the stuff you think you're weak at writing about |
11:47.44 | Hachiman | Compensating for your weakness with others' strengths and all that |
11:47.57 | Methanogen | Yes I'll make sure to remember to do that |
11:48.23 | Hachiman | Like how I compensate for Oluap being shit by being good and how he compensates for me being lazy with being too active for his own good |
11:48.53 | Methanogen | Sounds like an interesting combination |
11:51.26 | OluapPlayer | RUDE |
11:51.40 | Hachiman | u kno its tru tho |
11:52.52 | Methanogen | I wonder what war would be like between two species who could kill each other using their equivalent of water guns. Random thought there |
11:53.37 | Hachiman | Depends if the contents of their water guns would be capable of destabilizing the chemistry of the opposing race |
11:53.50 | Methanogen | Well m |
11:54.01 | Methanogen | *well my species has sulfuric acid |
11:54.15 | Methanogen | But they'd die to water |
11:54.40 | NeonPanda | my strength is by far my ability to describe things |
11:54.44 | OluapPlayer | They should be preferably not running around the water gun battlefield naked |
11:54.50 | OluapPlayer | not be even |
11:55.07 | NeonPanda | normally this goes into unnecessary detail regarding gore, but yeah |
11:55.19 | Hachiman | Gore or boobs |
11:55.24 | Hachiman | Sometimes both |
11:55.31 | NeonPanda | I don't think both has happened yet |
11:55.38 | Methanogen | So far I've decided to use shielding technology to help with the whole "don't die by landing on the universes most common seeming planet" thing |
11:55.42 | OluapPlayer | both is bad |
11:55.57 | NeonPanda | the closest so far is boobs while cleaning off gore |
11:56.12 | OluapPlayer | disgustin m8 |
11:56.18 | Methanogen | Nothing of mine has the latter of those so far |
11:56.28 | Hachiman | There is still time |
11:56.28 | Hachiman | kek |
11:56.39 | Hachiman | Nah I'm kidding |
11:56.50 | Methanogen | They're a very specific adaptation |
11:57.03 | Methanogen | Heck so far I don't even have separate genders I'm pretty sure |
11:57.03 | Hachiman | I mean |
11:57.09 | Hachiman | That's one way of describing them |
11:58.06 | Methanogen | I suppose against some opponents they could serve as a method of distraction |
11:58.23 | Hachiman | I have an entire character based around that |
11:58.29 | Hachiman | Please don't stoop to my level hur |
11:58.58 | Methanogen | So far I don't have much worry over that |
11:59.53 | NeonPanda | the first step of fixing a problem is acknowledging you have a problem |
11:59.58 | Methanogen | My species would probably just wonder how they developed vulnerable exposed areas to attack, though then again they can be killed with water guns |
12:00.09 | NeonPanda | I've so far managed to avoid the "everything has boobs" trope |
12:00.23 | Methanogen | True |
12:00.27 | OluapPlayer | I only put boobs on things where boobs make sense |
12:00.32 | Methanogen | As have I for all my two days here |
12:00.35 | OluapPlayer | Hachi would put boobs on bees if he could |
12:00.55 | NeonPanda | Hachi probably HAS put boobs on bees |
12:01.08 | Hachiman | I can neither confirm or deny |
12:01.31 | Hachiman | inb4 NOT THE BEEEEES |
12:01.35 | OluapPlayer | AAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
12:01.48 | Hachiman | brb pupper needs a walk |
12:01.49 | Methanogen | Poor poor insects |
12:02.03 | Methanogen | See you |
12:03.29 | Methanogen | I've got to go as well. Nice talking to everyone. |
12:05.22 | Hachiman | Turns out doggo doesn't wanna walk in the rain |
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12:15.00 | Jepardi | Hi |
12:15.58 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
12:49.47 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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15:04.08 | Hachiman | Hi |
15:21.45 | Imperios | Hi |
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15:53.20 | OluapPlayer | ~destroy Cyrannian |
15:53.21 | infobot | no |
15:53.36 | Cyrannian | ~annihilate OluapPlayer |
15:53.37 | infobot | ACTION bakes a cake and gives it to OluapPlayer |
15:55.26 | Cyrannian | https://www.facebook.com/AnimalsInPredicaments/posts/855556937917151 |
15:57.08 | OluapPlayer | cyrannus galaxy in a nutshell |
16:03.24 | Cyrannian | y sporewiki not have the fancy spancy new wiki layout |
16:06.47 | OluapPlayer | There's a new layout? |
16:07.52 | Cyrannian | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity - A new header, and I think everything's a bit wider too |
16:08.38 | Imperios | We're conservatives aren't we? |
16:10.30 | OluapPlayer | Maybe someone needs to manually enable it |
16:10.35 | OluapPlayer | That's probably Jo's business |
16:10.42 | Cyrannian | I can't see the option to do so in the Wiki Features thing |
16:12.38 | Cyrannian | Though there's a couple of features there that could be interesting to try out |
16:17.04 | Cyrannian | Hm, does anyone think we should enable blogs again? |
16:20.15 | Hachiman | Uh no? |
16:22.08 | Cyrannian | I can't really remember why they were disabled in the first place, though it might have had something to do with the new Forums |
16:22.13 | OluapPlayer | Considering we already agreed to disable them, no |
16:22.30 | OluapPlayer | The forums make blogs redundant |
16:30.08 | Cyrannian | Going by other wikis with both enabled, forums are for topics related to the wiki, or should be at least, while blogs provide users with the ability to express their opinions |
16:31.53 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Steel_of_the_Plagued_Land#Chapter_6:_Trial_I_-_The_Omega_Predator New chapter |
16:32.06 | OluapPlayer | I don't see the point. If you want them back so much then you should discuss with Jo, since she was the one who wanted blogs gone the most |
16:33.11 | Cyrannian | I'm not saying that I want them back so much, I just don't see the harm in enabling them |
16:34.03 | Hachiman | F5 that |
16:49.08 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: I just had to operate my father's dashcam today to get the footage of a car accident |
16:49.13 | Imperios | I feel like a true Russian now |
16:49.27 | Hachiman | hur |
16:49.28 | Hachiman | reed |
16:49.30 | OluapPlayer | cheeki level: breeki |
16:50.52 | Imperios | We're going to use the footage to help the driver in the accident and show that he was not the guilty party |
16:52.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: Wow, so the purple bird does not just kill things but mutate them too |
16:53.07 | Hachiman | Not really mutate |
16:53.18 | Hachiman | More like life changed to adapt of its own accord |
16:53.38 | Hachiman | It's an indirect result of Xitannoth's influence rather than Xitannoth mutating them directly |
16:54.44 | OluapPlayer | purple bird has a name ill have u know |
16:57.00 | Cyrannian | Did the SporeWiki Discord server happen? |
16:57.13 | OluapPlayer | Not to my knowledge |
16:57.53 | Cyrannian | Also nice work on Steel of the Plagued Land |
16:58.27 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Kamehebi - And these guys |
16:58.35 | Imperios | It happpened, just check it |
16:59.08 | Cyrannian | Imperios: I clicked the only link on the Forum and it brought me to the Discord main page |
17:10.22 | Tek0516 | Cyrannian: https://discord.gg/dFUhjd3 Here's a new invite link that shpuld work |
17:22.31 | Cyrannian | rite |
17:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/17409972_1266214596802318_776327199_n.png?oh=378a8f8fed74576d9b2e5f305ebdf27a&oe=58D607BE ð
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17:59.14 | Cyrannian | brb |
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18:11.41 | Wormydroid | <PROTECTED> |
18:13.10 | Wormydroid | Technobliterator too |
18:14.53 | Wormydroid | I imagine he probably exploited something the developers overlooked |
18:16.59 | Tek0516 | O.o |
18:17.47 | Wormydroid | 50000 agents sounds like a lot, but moderately sized trainstations can see 10000 people run through the system a day |
18:18.12 | Wormydroid | And its very poor for when it comes to ecological modelling |
18:19.23 | Hachiman | Imperios: How do you reckon you could get an average reader new to fantasy to sympathize with a character like a mage or whatnot? You know, an outsider relating to someone with supernatural or extraordinary abilities and whatnot |
18:19.36 | Wormydroid | Sheep and wolves model only runs for a few moments lol, especially if populations get high |
18:19.38 | Hachiman | It's a thought that just occurred to me |
18:20.48 | Wormydroid | Well, I often like mage characters |
18:20.55 | Wormydroid | Like the Seer |
18:21.10 | Hachiman | Yeah, but can you *relate* to the Seer? |
18:21.30 | Wormydroid | Yeah |
18:21.47 | Hachiman | How are you supposed to relate to a character who can practice magic or knows how to wield a weapon when your average might not? |
18:21.50 | Wormydroid | Spent my life feeling like ab outsider :( |
18:21.51 | Hachiman | *average reader |
18:22.11 | Ghelae | Give them a relateable personality? |
18:22.17 | Hachiman | I mean, there is that |
18:23.27 | Hachiman | I've just thought of it because I read someone saying that they find it difficult to relate to main characters in video games who demonstrate extraordinary abilities like martial arts training, swordsmanship / gun mastery, magic, etc. |
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18:25.14 | Ghelae | With a game, it's probably more difficult, since if most of your experience with the character is the gameplay, it'll feel like the abilities are the main feature of their character. |
18:25.15 | Wormydroid_ | Sorry, didn't read "average" |
18:26.07 | Wormydroid_ | Well in game design there's a tradeoff between empathy and agency |
18:26.18 | Wormydroid_ | When it comes to characters |
18:26.37 | Wormydroid_ | Its hard to emphasise with a character if you have all the agency |
18:27.18 | Wormydroid_ | In games with very linear stories you can design a narrative that gives empathy |
18:27.48 | Wormydroid_ | This isn't an absolute of course |
18:27.55 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
18:28.42 | Wormydroid_ | Empathise |
18:30.28 | Wormydroid_ | I felt empathy to my Spore empires even though I had a lot of agency, becayse I cpuld construct my own story |
18:30.38 | Ghelae | It's easy to imagine that there's at best a balance between relatability and gameplay. At the most extreme, you can have a game with no storyline at all, in which a character will struggle to relatable even without any special abilities. At the other extreme, you have non-interactive media like films, books, etc., where characters can be easily relatable but obviously there's no gameplay. |
18:35.52 | Imperios | Hachiman: THe most important thing is immersing a character slowly |
18:35.56 | Wormydroid_ | Games without much story tend to be ones that focus on the agency of the player (even if there's not a lot of procedures in the game) |
18:36.06 | Imperios | Introducing different parts of the world over time |
18:36.10 | Imperios | Harry Potter does that really well |
18:37.19 | Wormydroid_ | Fallout games look at first glance to have high agency, but the stories branch with little variation when it comes to the end state |
18:38.49 | Wormydroid_ | And all branch from the same premise - which starts with empathy fir the lone wanderer |
18:39.16 | Wormydroid_ | Well I can only sprak of the last 2 |
18:39.19 | Wormydroid_ | Speak |
18:42.31 | Wormydroid_ | Funny this conversation is happening, because I'm analysing a game without much of either for a report - velocity raptor, though I think it has a bigger agency ratio |
18:43.58 | Wormydroid_ | Impy yeah slowly introducing exploration and diversity of challenges (and conflict eith the rules of the game) goes a long way |
18:44.23 | Wormydroid_ | In keeping players interested and stimulated |
18:44.38 | Cyrannian | Velocity raptor? |
18:45.10 | Wormydroid_ | Check it out, its a browser game with Special Relativity |
18:46.02 | Wormydroid_ | In Fallout 4 if I don't increase the hardness at this point I'll get bored of it, becayse I'm findibg nothibg very challenging anymore |
18:46.50 | Cyrannian | I found Fallout 4 quite hard to get into compared to Skyrim |
18:47.26 | Wormydroid_ | I fell in love with Fallout's universe very quickly |
18:47.48 | Wormydroid_ | But yeah its hard to know where to start |
18:48.11 | Cyrannian | Do you play with mods? |
18:48.29 | Wormydroid_ | I haven't bothered |
18:48.34 | Wormydroid_ | Nor with the dlcs yet |
18:48.53 | Cyrannian | I tried a couple on the Xbone, but I might disable them next time I play |
18:49.56 | *** join/#sporewiki Aquilo (493b4271@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.59.66.113) |
18:52.40 | Wormydroid_ | Hi |
18:56.19 | Wormydroid_ | I've been building a German style pub in F4 |
18:56.40 | Wormydroid_ | Screenshots on my steam page |
18:56.57 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, hey |
18:57.23 | DrodoEmpire | You're uh |
18:57.31 | DrodoEmpire | You're -Aquilo- Aquilo, right? |
18:57.36 | DrodoEmpire | One from years back? |
19:00.53 | Wormydroid_ | Brb |
19:02.05 | Aquilo | yea |
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19:02.30 | DrodoEmpire | ayy cool |
19:02.33 | DrodoEmpire | Welcome back |
19:03.28 | Wormydroid | Wb Aquilo |
19:04.11 | DrodoEmpire | Plan on doing fiction again, or just visiting? |
19:04.29 | Aquilo | thanks guys. just checking in. spore is 75% off on steam atm so I bought in and was checking out the wiki again. thinking about maybe doing some fiction |
19:04.30 | DrodoEmpire | Because, if its the former, you might need to be brought up to speed a little <.< |
19:04.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh cool |
19:05.08 | Aquilo | if I end up wanting to do stuff I'll come to you for all thats happened for sure |
19:05.22 | DrodoEmpire | kk cool |
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19:22.48 | AtsyBoi | EYyyy |
19:34.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
19:37.19 | Wormydroid | Là u uÃuuuüuüüw |
19:37.40 | Wormydroid | Oops |
19:38.56 | AtsyBoi | you're on mobile arent you |
19:41.24 | Wormydroid | Yes |
19:41.34 | Wormydroid | It posted in my pocket lol |
19:41.41 | *** join/#sporewiki Male_Mecha_Cow (46326238@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.50.98.56) |
19:41.43 | Male_Mecha_Cow | MOO |
19:41.45 | AtsyBoi | wtf |
19:41.51 | Wormydroid | Xho? |
19:42.04 | AtsyBoi | idk |
19:42.06 | AtsyBoi | that was |
19:42.10 | AtsyBoi | weird |
19:42.28 | Wormydroid | Catface? |
19:42.35 | AtsyBoi | who's catface? |
19:42.43 | Wormydroid | Who isn't |
19:43.09 | AtsyBoi | wat |
19:43.24 | DrodoEmpire | *whomst isn't |
19:43.48 | Wormydroid | W o m p |
19:45.01 | Imperios | ~seen Xho |
19:45.03 | infobot | xho <97e67a1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.230.122.27> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 3d 22h 35m 15s ago, saying: 'uneducated swines'. |
19:45.14 | Wormydroid | Typical |
19:45.18 | DrodoEmpire | lul |
19:45.24 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yz2S58ZPPE - ayy lmao |
19:45.39 | Wormydroid | Could be having new wifi connection |
19:46.33 | *** join/#sporewiki Male (46326238@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.50.98.56) |
19:46.56 | AtsyBoi | ok |
19:47.39 | *** join/#sporewiki Male_Metal_Cow (46326238@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.50.98.56) |
19:48.00 | AtsyBoi | We Are Number One but every "one" is replaced with Male_Metal_Cow joining chat |
19:48.27 | AtsyBoi | puts on sunglasses |
19:48.34 | DrodoEmpire | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/234/917/214.jpg |
19:49.33 | AtsyBoi | OluapPlayer: Can I see that picture of Scout that destroyed some of your brain cells? |
19:50.07 | AtsyBoi | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
19:50.08 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Wormy_chop] by ChanServ |
19:55.13 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormydroid_ (516c282b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.108.40.43) |
19:55.22 | Wormydroid_ | Still makes me laugh http://m.imgur.com/qD7bu2I |
19:56.25 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Wormy_chop] by ChanServ |
19:56.31 | Male_Metal_Cow | moo |
19:56.40 | *** kick/#sporewiki [Wormydroid!516c282b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.108.40.43] by Wormy_chop (wibble) |
19:58.21 | AtsyBoi | What is wibble? |
19:58.42 | Wormy_chop | I have absolutely no clue |
20:01.19 | AtsyBoi | ~whatis wibble |
20:01.23 | AtsyBoi | fu |
20:02.25 | AtsyBoi | ~wibble |
20:02.25 | infobot | ACTION wobbles |
20:03.34 | Wormy_chop | ~wobbles |
20:03.39 | AtsyBoi | ~wobble |
20:03.39 | infobot | ACTION wobbles like file |
20:04.04 | AtsyBoi | Let's come up with some new weapons |
20:04.12 | AtsyBoi | ~kill Wormy_chop |
20:04.12 | infobot | ACTION shoots a inverse pseudoquark gun at Wormy_chop |
20:05.31 | Wormy_chop | Can't kill me with a particle that doesn't exist |
20:05.36 | Wormy_chop | Dohhh |
20:06.09 | AtsyBoi | ok |
20:06.18 | AtsyBoi | ~destroy Wormy_chop |
20:06.18 | infobot | no |
20:06.25 | AtsyBoi | ~no |
20:06.31 | AtsyBoi | ~kill Wormy_chop |
20:06.31 | infobot | ACTION shoots a charged pseudomeson gun at Wormy_chop |
20:07.29 | Wormy_chop | Hah |
20:07.45 | AtsyBoi | ~murder Wormy_chop |
20:07.45 | infobot | ACTION shoots Wormy_chop in his sleep |
20:07.54 | AtsyBoi | dammit bot |
20:07.59 | AtsyBoi | he isn't sleeping |
20:08.17 | Wormy_chop | And nor doI ever |
20:08.32 | AtsyBoi | dammitdammitdammitdammitdammit |
20:08.42 | AtsyBoi | ~whalenuke Wormy_chop |
20:08.42 | infobot | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Wormy_chop with his mind powers. |
20:09.19 | *** join/#sporewiki ZF101 (4933de11@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.51.222.17) |
20:09.22 | Wormy_chop | Also impossible |
20:09.31 | Wormy_chop | Hi |
20:09.36 | AtsyBoi | Hi |
20:09.42 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
20:09.57 | AtsyBoi | I'm just trying to kill Wormy with infobot |
20:10.00 | AtsyBoi | ~nuke Wormy_chop |
20:10.00 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Wormy_chop ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
20:10.43 | ZF101 | Well, looks like you had a Falling out with Wormy. |
20:11.01 | Wormy_chop | ~nuke 100MissileSilos |
20:11.02 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at 100MissileSilos ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
20:12.21 | AtsyBoi | ~dolphin |
20:12.21 | infobot | It is possible that Dolphin is KDE 4.0's default file manager, as it is probably less intimidating to novices. Konqueror will still be there, both as a filemanager and browser, and will share code with Dolphin, so both will benefit from the same features. |
20:12.35 | AtsyBoi | ~bludgeon Wormy_chop with a dolphin |
20:12.48 | AtsyBoi | ~slap Wormy_chop with a dolphin |
20:12.48 | infobot | ACTION slaps Wormy_chop with a dolphin, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
20:13.11 | AtsyBoi | secretly allied with 100MissileSilos |
20:13.17 | AtsyBoi | hurhurhur |
20:13.25 | Wormy_chop | I'll set PETA on ya |
20:13.45 | AtsyBoi | ~explode Wormy_chop |
20:13.45 | infobot | ACTION blows up Wormy_chop with bombs |
20:13.47 | ZF101 | ~hug Atsyboi |
20:13.47 | infobot | ACTION hugs Atsyboi |
20:13.53 | AtsyBoi | NOOOO |
20:13.59 | AtsyBoi | MY ULTIMATE WEAKNESS |
20:14.02 | AtsyBoi | dissolves |
20:14.16 | ZF101 | There can be only one. |
20:14.57 | Wormy_chop | Alright enough, we've got a bit far |
20:15.19 | AtsyBoi | raises a white flag from his ashes |
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20:25.12 | Methanogen | Hello |
20:25.16 | Wormy_chop | Hi |
20:25.18 | Male_Metal_Cow | hello |
20:25.47 | Male_Metal_Cow | is actualy AtsyBoi |
20:26.15 | AtsyBoi | gives Methanogen two vials of Hydrogen and Carbon Dioxide |
20:27.03 | Wormy_chop | Right, no sock puppeting please |
20:27.11 | AtsyBoi | oh |
20:27.11 | AtsyBoi | ok |
20:27.52 | Methanogen | Why hydrogen and carbon dioxide? |
20:28.10 | AtsyBoi | Because that's how methanogens make methane |
20:28.16 | Wormy_chop | In what context? |
20:28.30 | Methanogen | Good point |
20:29.13 | Methanogen | I wonder when I'll actually get around to making a species that lives up to my namesake |
20:40.24 | Wormy_chop | Think I'll log on with my laptop |
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20:42.48 | Treebeard | Hello |
20:42.53 | Methanogen | Hi |
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20:44.49 | Wormy_chop_ | hm |
20:45.19 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Wormy_chop] by ChanServ |
20:46.57 | Methanogen | So, I have to ask, what kinds of fictions do you all have? |
20:47.25 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
20:47.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
20:47.30 | DrodoEmpire | Well, what do you mean by that? |
20:47.38 | DrodoEmpire | Genre? Government? General style? |
20:47.41 | DrodoEmpire | Inspiration? |
20:48.50 | Wormy_chop | I write speculative sci-fi, but I also own the Delpha Coalition of Planets who play the Big Guy stereotype |
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20:49.31 | Wormy_chop | I write speculative sci-fi, but I also own the Delpha Coalition of Planets who play the Big Guy stereotype |
20:49.46 | Methanogen_ | Ah I see |
20:50.14 | Methanogen_ | My connection or something stuffed up hence the double names |
20:50.33 | Methanogen_ | I like making very alien aliens |
20:51.01 | DrodoEmpire | I tend to play fast and loose with the technology of sci-fi in preference with the social or warfare aspects |
20:51.36 | Methanogen_ | I've still got to make my societies |
20:51.42 | DrodoEmpire | Much of the Drodo, in their cultures, traditions, ways of doing things, etc. are based around history |
20:52.02 | Wormy_chop | planetary science, exotic biochemistries and alien psychologies, big bad weapons based on extremes in the laws of physics, megastructural engineering, posthuman conditions, multiverses, philosophical themes play host in most of my fictions, even in collaborative stories |
20:52.47 | Methanogen | That's quite a few things |
20:52.56 | Wormy_chop | but I also have a small amount of characters in the Delpha Coalition which have quite a lot of drama and stuff going on |
20:53.56 | Methanogen | I see so you have a lot of different stuff there |
20:54.05 | Wormy_chop | I also have had magical and mythological themes emerging lately |
20:54.55 | Methanogen | I don't have many themes yet but I'm new so yeah |
20:56.21 | Wormy_chop | If you're interested in making alien biology there might be some room for interaction with my fiction |
20:56.31 | Wormy_chop | Though I'm less active now |
20:56.52 | Methanogen | I'll definitely consider it |
21:01.17 | Wormy_chop | I've been doing fiction here since 2008 |
21:01.24 | Wormy_chop | So yeah it takes time |
21:01.27 | Methanogen | That's a long time |
21:01.46 | Wormy_chop | A lot of my pages are woefully outdated and need some polish |
21:02.02 | Methanogen | You probably have a million of them |
21:02.07 | Methanogen | That's hard to manage |
21:02.57 | Wormy_chop | And I've found more fun creating little things like this lately, which worsens the problem lol http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Tzquuucha http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle%3ALinnormr |
21:03.49 | Methanogen | I only have two things to manage so far but knowing than could very well end up being ten soon |
21:05.43 | Methanogen | *knowing me that could |
21:07.15 | Wormy_chop | Its probably a good idea not to branch out too far too early |
21:07.43 | Methanogen | True |
21:07.52 | Methanogen | I have to go, nice conversation |
21:09.08 | Wormy_chop | Got to work on report bbl |
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23:00.34 | OluapPlayer | Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtWdYkJbdE |
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23:21.58 | Wormy_ | Watching Jaws 3, amazed how its only 11 years older than I am |
23:23.20 | Wormy_ | Also, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/23ft-great-white-science-behind-that-jaws-sighting-why-its-cause-celebration-1539109 |
23:34.14 | Wormy_ | Lol I doubt aquariums need that many computer mainframes |
23:35.00 | Wormy_ | Typical of 80's films were excessive displays of computers to look ultra-modern, computers which would soon look qaint |
23:36.07 | Monet | Ah the days of CRT screens |
23:37.05 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Forgot how tiny WoW's cities feel. |
23:37.27 | OluapPlayer | I think they're probably larger in-lore |
23:37.37 | Wormy_ | http://doblu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/jawsthree13120.jpg |
23:38.13 | Monet | Oh much larger. |
23:38.35 | Monet | Stormwind is supposed to be a city of about 200,000. |
23:39.19 | OluapPlayer | Actually I remember reading about an inconsistency with Stormwind and Orgrimmar's numbers |
23:41.11 | OluapPlayer | Seems to be gone from the Wowwiki now but there was some text which implied Orgrimmarhad only a fraction of Stormwind's population |
23:41.18 | OluapPlayer | Guess they realized it was wrong |
23:41.22 | Monet | Well if we were to compare, I found a census that London was comparable to Stormwind in 1600 |
23:41.27 | Monet | http://www.medart.pitt.edu/image/england/london/maps-of-london/Map-London-Norden-1593-b.jpg it was this bug |
23:41.39 | Monet | big* |
23:41.55 | OluapPlayer | It also implied there were more high elves in Stormwind than blood elves in Quel'Thalas |
23:42.49 | Monet | SO Stormwind as we see it in the Warcraft movie is about the right size. |
23:45.09 | Monet | And yeah those that didn't die to Arthas' scourge or didn't join Kael'Thas fully fled to Stormwind. |
23:45.26 | OluapPlayer | Seems a bit weird though |
23:45.51 | OluapPlayer | You'd expect Quel'Thalas to have more elves than the human capital |
23:47.04 | Monet | Well, a lot of Blood Elves did join Kael'Thas to Outland. |
23:48.37 | Monet | I recall Alleria Windrunner, Sylvanas' sister is a guest in Stormwind Keep. |
23:48.58 | Monet | I'll bet a number of elves followed her after the razing of QUel'Thalas. |
23:50.46 | OluapPlayer | You're confusing her with Vereesa. Alleria has been gone since Warcraft 2 |
23:51.49 | OluapPlayer | But chances are we'll find her when we go to Argus |
23:51.50 | Monet | Stupid Windrunners and all their sisters. |
23:57.48 | Wormy_ | I can't see Walford Square |