IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170319

00:00.11OluapPlayerThere's a bunch of types of captains I've never even encountered
00:00.58Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RQrFaGx7KU Another Prak
00:01.01MonetI once encountered an uruk that msut have bee na minor daemon of Nurgle or something
00:02.04AtsyBoiMonet: I'll look out for him
00:02.11AtsyBoi~rimshot
00:02.11infobotbadum-TISH!
00:02.35Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0QiBTFUkUc holy hell
00:02.42OluapPlayerMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2wLAQBrz9I this one
00:02.43OluapPlayer?
00:02.49ImpyDroidMonet Xho: https://youtu.be/7NuycFoj4sk This is what Britain First actually believes
00:06.35MonetOluapPlayer: Yep
00:07.11MonetCan't remember him talking about cures
00:07.44MonetTHen again I encountered him once, killed him and never saw him again.
00:10.57OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUvATlWSj68 when you're sad
00:14.53Xhoi expected no less
00:15.19MonetI kind of expect the drunkard trait to let out a large belch when he sees you
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00:21.15MonetOluapPLayer: Corvus Corax smiles on him
00:21.23AtsyBoi~leave
00:21.24infobothmm... leave is what lazarus should do now
00:21.29AtsyBoik
00:22.00XhoI had an Assassin captain
00:22.21OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1TWLC-EZcA xho uruk
00:22.25XhoDon't think he was anything special
00:22.29AtsyBoiWell, since we're talking about that kind of game
00:22.56Xho"Seems like most of the internet"
00:23.10AtsyBoi>tfw no cow level
00:24.09OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxzkbHCRke0 I found Prak's uruk
00:24.12XhoOluapPlayer: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH"
00:25.34MonetIt's Giggles!
00:27.30XhoAlmost every like is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
00:27.32Xholine
00:29.58AtsyBoiso you like a post
00:30.01AtsyBoiand then you scream?
00:30.18XhoTrue but no
00:30.29XhoI do scream a lot
00:33.28XhoFrom looking at Tear of Grace's videos more often he isn't that good at SoM
00:34.35OluapPlayerHe played the game without pop-up prompts, and claims he lost many times on purpose
00:35.04OluapPlayerHe does make many stupid mistakes through his videos, so I imagine it's true. But he still sucks
00:35.10OluapPlayerHe's funny but he sucks at the game
00:35.46XhoThe game is pretty situational as well
00:35.52XhoActually no it's all about the situation
00:36.05XhoI still remember that time I took out all of Durthang in one go
00:36.06Xhotwas fun
00:36.09AtsyBoiWO- oh ok
00:36.22AtsyBoiOluap, pm please
00:36.41MonetThe plot is rather forgettable. the awesome part is the Nemesis system.
00:36.47OluapPlayerYeah
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00:38.54MonetHello
00:38.55ZF101Hello all.
00:40.02XhoHi
00:40.12XhoThe only real thing I struggle fighting in that game are Caragors
00:40.18XhoI avoid Graugs altogether
00:40.54AtsyBoiHi ZF
00:41.01OluapPlayerWit until you get the ability of riding them
00:41.05OluapPlayerThen you'll want them around all the time
00:41.08OluapPlayerwait*
00:41.17XhoI do have that
00:41.23XhoThey're still a pain in the ass
00:41.49OluapPlayerWhy you fighting them then
00:41.53OluapPlayerJust brand them and dismount
00:43.23XhoHm could do that
00:43.37XhoIsn't branding later on in the game though
00:44.17OluapPlayerDon't you brand the caragor when you mount it?
00:44.38XhoHaven't done it so far really
00:44.46OluapPlayerblah
00:44.49AtsyBoiwhat should I make my empire be?
00:44.52AtsyBoixD
00:45.18XhoAlso Catface just showed me an image of a tree falling on his house and a branch tore its way through the roof
00:45.24XhoApparently it very nearly hit him
00:45.26AtsyBoiDang
00:45.28Xhohttp://imgur.com/a/fJTLl
00:45.37AtsyBoiHope it doesn't cost too much to repair it
00:45.40AtsyBoiBest wishes to him
00:45.44AtsyBoior her
00:45.45AtsyBoixD
00:45.51OluapPlayerBad luck
00:45.53XhoThat guy has had a rough time
00:46.26Xhohttps://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16807261_1388314747905377_1764898542979074016_n.jpg?oh=ea8f6ed05c116a32c13e1f5bea439ccb&oe=595D2F4A That's the branch
00:47.17AtsyBoiDang, that's p big
00:48.24ZF101Holy Moly.
00:48.45MonetYikes
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00:52.44AtsyBoiHi Drodo
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01:05.12DrodoEmpireOh hey
01:05.21DrodoEmpireHey ZF
01:05.34DrodoEmpireAtsyBoi: New here?
01:05.53AtsyBoiNope
01:06.19DrodoEmpireAhh
01:06.28DrodoEmpireHaven't seen you here before is all, sorry
01:16.50Monet"I honestly can't think of one super soldier program that even when it had good results wasn't morally squicky as hell."   Adeptus Astartes? "I mean, besides the indoctrination during the process to go from human to demigod." oh sweet sweet innocent youtuber
01:17.52MonetIIRC Astartes are practically brainwashed, flushed of impure thoughts and then resieve the seeds of surgically-implanted organs.
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01:18.26ZF102What, kidnapping Children ISN'T a bad thing? How do you think I found my nice, happy family.
01:18.32MonetNot to mention Astartes stock quite often come from planets here surviving to the age 17 is considered a heroic achievement.
01:20.01ZF102I think the only one that isn't morally questionable is Captain America, and they probably retconned it or something while I wasn't looking.
01:21.40MonetYou have a point there
01:22.07MonetThe most unethical part may be from how in the MCU Erskine developed it under the Nazis.
01:26.05MonetIt might say something about how exceptional the project was when subsequent the SSP projects created the Hulk, Abomination, Winter Soldier, Black Widow and the Wolverine.
01:26.28MonetAll of them a hundred times more controversial than Erskine's experiments.
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01:26.41Wormy_hi
01:26.46ZF102Hello.
01:26.53Monetsubsequent attempts at the SSP*
01:26.54MonetHi
01:27.34MonetOh yeah and can't forget Deadpool as well
01:28.02ZF102Well, to be fair, Cpt volunteered, and didn't go crazy, which both of the other attempts lacked.
01:28.46ZF102Hulk/Abomination went crazy, Deadpool is Deadpool, Black Window was taken as a child, Wolverine I think was kidnapped as well, so yeah.
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01:28.58NeonPandahi all
01:29.13Wormy_Monet:  Would you agree IRC has become more active this past year?
01:29.19Wormy_hi
01:29.30ZF102Hello.
01:29.37DrodoEmpireI think its certainly kept its normal levels
01:30.03DrodoEmpireThings went quiet last month, but that might be more that people were busy
01:30.07DrodoEmpireI know I was
01:31.08ZF102I usually don't like to come on anymore, cause my internet connection is rather touchy.
01:32.26MonetZF102: One thing about all of the failed projects is the military basically ignored what Erskine was trying to do with Steve.
01:32.40MonetImagine if they had accepted any of the jarheads Steve found himself training with.
01:33.19ZF102Tru dat.
01:36.29MonetWith Deadpool's heaing factor I've concluded that it's not meant to be as rapid as 'energetic' as is.
01:36.32Monetas it is*
01:39.59Monet"it's not supposed to be dialed up that far" as they say.
01:54.16DrodoEmpiretest
01:54.24AtsyBoiB+
02:00.55NeonPandaplaying Fable 2 again for the luls, dear god this game is poorly balanced XD
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02:28.01MonetHello
02:34.21AtsyBoiHi
02:40.07DrodoEmpireHye
02:40.09DrodoEmpire*Hey
02:44.10AtsyBoi~joke
02:44.10infobotA bhuddist monk goes to a hot dog vendor and says "Make me one with everything!"
02:45.08DrodoEmpireayy
02:59.34Tek0516~joke
02:59.34infobotWhat's a chicken coupe with 4 doors - a Chicken Sedan!
02:59.43Tek0516O.o
03:01.54DrodoEmpirea          y          y
03:43.12Monethttp://orig09.deviantart.net/68fe/f/2017/077/c/4/alcantipalace_1_by_spacer176-db2sgib.jpg I've tried experimenting with a design for the Alcanti Royal Palace.
03:43.49DrodoEmpireOh I like that
03:44.45Monetthe key idea is in the event of the city being under assault, the palace can still be defended.
03:47.33DrodoEmpire^
03:50.40MonetThis is still version one, One thing I realise about the original location was it was just a slope
03:51.14MonetIt might make more sense for the palace to be connected to a rocky outcrop. The palace still goes deep underground but it'll be harder to sue the mountain against it
03:51.24Monetuse*
03:52.06DrodoEmpireRight
04:00.13Wormy_I'm gonna collapse
04:01.10Monetgoodnight
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05:41.55Liquid_InkHey
05:46.09DrodoEmpireHi
05:47.29DrodoEmpireSo usually the streets of my town are pretty quiet at night, and I don't stray far either when its dark (partly because my town -used- to be really bad for crime, and also because I'm scared of the dark >:)
05:48.10DrodoEmpireWhich makes the fact that a guy, who must've passed right by my house, was screaming about something-- he sounded like he was in pain
05:48.30DrodoEmpireI was too late downstairs to catch a glimpse of him though, or else I might've investigated
05:49.11Liquid_InkSpooky
05:50.27DrodoEmpireYeah
05:51.05DrodoEmpireGranted, most people who pass down my street at three in the morning are quite benign-- I recall one guy was singing something or other
05:52.59Liquid_InkI have neighbours that like to have violent arguments in the middle of the night. It gets unbearable, but with winter coming we can close the windows and that's good
05:55.08DrodoEmpireOh ouch
06:00.33DrodoEmpireHey is the Turr Kyolm Belt open to colonisation?
06:01.44Liquid_InkNo.
06:02.17Liquid_InkYou can merrily colonise the Milky Way nearby, though.
06:02.26DrodoEmpireRight.
06:03.08DrodoEmpireI've been playing with the idea of more or less introducing another major Drodo culture group, and I have an idea to maybe put a big chunk of them somewhere
06:04.38DrodoEmpireAs with most Drodo ethnicities they'd have a pretty strong martial tradition, so I'd sooner put them somewhere with a lot of potential threats
06:05.46Liquid_InkIf I get ahead with my plans I'll be getting rid of the Zarni Empire soon enough, so that's not going to be a lasting threat.
06:06.17DrodoEmpireAhh
06:16.08DrodoEmpireAre the Zarni terribly expansionist as of now?
06:16.41Liquid_InkNot really; they're more isolationist.
06:17.18DrodoEmpireRight, so the Drodo colonists wouldn't necessarily be spoiling for a fight by colonising basically right beside the sector
06:17.20DrodoEmpire?
06:17.42Liquid_InkThey would not.
06:17.51DrodoEmpireAh, damn
06:18.05Liquid_InkThe Zarni already exist in a grouchy peace with the DSB and ATR on their doorsteps.
06:19.01DrodoEmpireRight
06:19.46Liquid_InkThough with the SGCW I think they might go invade the ATR
06:19.48DrodoEmpireSo the idea I had for these people is essentially they'd be the largest of the Drodo "mountain peoples"-- based loosely off of the Greeks of the Ottoman period, or the Armenians
06:20.17Liquid_InkI see
06:20.33DrodoEmpireTheir major industry would be herding, and for herding to be viable in the 29th century I can see them driving herds of -billions-, potentially filling up entire worlds to capacity quite quickly
06:21.09DrodoEmpirePerhaps these peoples begin to step on Zarni toes when them and their herds bleed onto worlds in Zarni space?
06:21.16Liquid_InkThat could be environmentally hazardous
06:21.28Liquid_InkYes, that would lead to border conflicts.
06:21.43DrodoEmpireOh absolutely it would be environmentally dangerous if you don't handle it -really- well
06:21.51DrodoEmpireThe soil degradation could be extreme
06:22.12Liquid_InkNot to mention deforestation and its effects.
06:22.15DrodoEmpire^
06:22.19DrodoEmpireAnd that might account for the runaway expansion too, they begin to exhaust worlds with overenthusiastic herding
06:22.47Liquid_InkSpace nomads, perhaps?
06:22.57DrodoEmpireActually I do have space nomads
06:23.52DrodoEmpireUrdesi peoples, who undertake similar activities but have since broken off from the Empire proper to build a Khanate in the Ottzello sector
06:23.56DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AChalag_Khanate
06:24.43DrodoEmpireThey're more on the central asian/mongol side of things
06:25.50Liquid_InkCool.
06:26.13DrodoEmpireAnd their economy is more diversified-- they do do herding, but they also extract andasium using their non-Drodo subjects and Urdesi also do mass-salvaging operations
06:27.26DrodoEmpireBasically they take apart old derelicts they eithe rstumble across, buy off of people, or, well, make derelict themselves
06:28.39Liquid_InkI see
06:28.50DrodoEmpireThese mountain folk would likely have a tighter focus on herding and the sort, perhaps this is due to a government contact they're trying to fulfill, not sure
06:29.14DrodoEmpireIt'd be one of the more logical reasons why these people would herd and basically only herd
06:29.54Liquid_InkDo they rely on the Drodo Empire for anything they can't attain through herding?
06:30.00DrodoEmpireLikely, yeah
06:30.24DrodoEmpireThey probably sell the massive amounts of product they make for things like ships, fuel, firearms, etc.
06:30.36DrodoEmpireAnd likely also get government assistance
06:32.56DrodoEmpireI suppose a reason why they'd set up so near the Zarni would be that its on the same arm, there's issues involved in colonising within Katar (limited space, etc.), and, well, could be either the government being dumb or private interests enticing people to go there despite potential risks
06:33.14DrodoEmpireOr more likely both
06:34.18Liquid_Inkhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1f/Milky_Way_map_5.png/revision/latest?cb=20160612201032 Considering there's plenty of room in this galaxy, there should be some tangible reason for setting up close to the Zarni.
06:36.24DrodoEmpireWell to the galactic west you geto close to the GEC so that's a nogo
06:36.48DrodoEmpireKatar is too crowded, so not there
06:37.05DrodoEmpireIts possible to set up along the major rade route to Tholfame, as opposed to Zarni space
06:38.56DrodoEmpireAll things considered, if the Drodo herders are to end up anywhere near the Turr-Kyolm, its generally more likely to be alongside the Defensive Systems Bloc
06:39.11DrodoEmpireNow, the same precise issue of weak borders could still occur with them
06:39.24DrodoEmpireAnd armed conflict could still easily happen
06:40.34DrodoEmpireAs fir why they might be near the Turr-Kyolm... well, potentially shortsightedness
06:40.43Liquid_InkThe DSB would much rather a peaceful solution.
06:41.10DrodoEmpireWhichever government agency in charge of this project might look at the Belt, see its not terribly active or hostile, and say "Good enough, send them there"
06:41.28DrodoEmpireNear there, rather
06:42.37DrodoEmpireI'm sure, though, at the same time the Herders wouldn't be too willing or able to stop and redirect their expansion on a dime.
06:42.59DrodoEmpireIn addition, the Drodo have a long and proud history of suspicion and hostility to federal powers
06:43.07DrodoEmpire*towards
06:43.17DrodoEmpireWhich could cause conflict in the short term
06:44.01Liquid_InkProbabably.
06:46.10DrodoEmpireThis is all entirely theoretical, but it could be interesting
06:46.20DrodoEmpireIt'd represent a clash of cultures, for sure
06:47.26Liquid_InkYes, it would.
06:48.19DrodoEmpireHm
06:48.25DrodoEmpireActually what's the Bloc's military like?
06:50.43Liquid_InkA volunteer force that's well armed and supplied, but not overfunded like many other states.
06:50.55DrodoEmpireRight...
06:52.19DrodoEmpireThe Herders, who I need a name for soon, would like most Drodo irregulars fight as militias, organised along clan lines and allegiance. While militias they'd actually be pretty experienced, given the relative frequency of interclan conflict, especially on more rural worlds
06:53.05DrodoEmpireThey'd use a force of infantry and some cavalry, and they'd stick close to the mountains to use as natural cover and fight as loose-order skirmishers and sharpshooters
06:53.33DrodoEmpireOccasionally they might sortie with raids of rifle-armed horsemen and light artillery
06:54.45DrodoEmpireTheir strategy would be highly asymmetrical, most of the time
06:58.25DrodoEmpireSo I could see the whole conflict grinding to a halt after a while, with the bloc unable to dislodge a force quite used to fighting conventional forces and the herders unable to dislodge a conventional force so unusually concerted
06:59.37Liquid_InkOf course, if the Herders are hiding out waiting to strike, this would allow the DSB opportunity to shift the movement of the herds arround their territory, so long as they kept the Herders hiding.
07:00.20DrodoEmpireThat's true, they'd have to abandon most of their herds
07:00.48DrodoEmpireGranted, they've probably run into and found a solution/coping mechanism to this issue centuries before.
07:01.36DrodoEmpireI might need to do some historical research into how mountain folk solved that issue
07:04.50DrodoEmpireI can see the herders bringing as many animals as possible up to the hills with them, and potentially do something in terms of psychological warfare with the rest
07:05.20DrodoEmpireSlaughter them by the millions and leave their corpses scattered for miles about, attach bombs to them, etc.
07:12.37Liquid_InkNasty
07:12.56DrodoEmpireYeah definitely
07:15.01Liquid_InkThat would cut into their business with the Drodo Empire proper with that loss of product.
07:15.43DrodoEmpireAbsolutely
07:16.04DrodoEmpireBut so does having your herd under the control of a foreign government <.<
07:17.00Liquid_InkThe DSB would give it back one it was moving in a more suitable direction.
07:18.35DrodoEmpireRight
07:18.46DrodoEmpireBut that's assuming a peace is brokered, which might take a while for sure
07:18.56DrodoEmpireEither way
07:19.00DrodoEmpireI gotta go
07:19.14Liquid_InkBye
07:53.40Liquid_Inktest
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12:47.39MonetHello
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12:52.23OluapPlayerHi
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12:54.34Monethttp://orig09.deviantart.net/68fe/f/2017/077/c/4/alcantipalace_1_by_spacer176-db2sgib.jpg made this last night.
12:54.56MonetThought I'd finally get around to a model of the Alcanti Imperial Palace.
12:58.31NeonPandanot bad
12:58.36NeonPandawhat program is that made in?
12:59.28MonetAutodesk Maya
13:02.56Monetthe palace is meant to be both estate and fortress, hence the number of elevated platforms and alcoves..
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13:47.26OluapPlayerHi
13:47.34Xhoih
13:47.52MonetYo
13:48.10MonetXho: http://orig09.deviantart.net/68fe/f/2017/077/c/4/alcantipalace_1_by_spacer176-db2sgib.jpg working on a thing
13:48.29Xhonoice
13:48.37Xhodat topography tho
13:48.57XhoFunnily enough that's kind of how I envision Dar-Nahalant's fortress
13:50.29MonetYeah I'm going to work o nthe slope at some point.
13:50.48MonetIt is?
13:51.11XhoDar-Nahalant's fortress is built into the mountainside with a similar bridge connecting to it
13:51.38XhoExcept the fortress is built more into the mountain than that
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13:53.09XhoHi
13:53.12dromGhelaway Monet: http://imgur.com/gallery/nyWcRJH
13:53.12dromHi
13:53.53MonetThat starry sky.....
13:53.57dromImpyDroid: Just got some heirloom gear, ready to put the gear one kick up.
13:55.04MonetXho: I suppose the mountain that is built on is also more carved away?
13:55.23XhoIn a way
13:55.32XhoThere is a image of it I made somewhere
13:55.45XhoThe courtyard to the fortress is the most 'man-made' part of it
13:56.10MonetYou showed it yesterday I think
13:57.23NeonPandaHel'Bre'K - You are little baby man, ma house is built into the side of a sheer vertical cliff
13:57.37XhoKeleivel - I'm also dead
13:57.42MonetUriel - Rockslides tho.
13:57.46NeonPandabut then again that place was built specifically to be as annoying as possible in all possible respects
13:58.08NeonPandaHel'Bre'K - you've seen my house, if THAT manages to rockslide there ain't much you're doing about it
14:00.10MonetThe one thing I keep thinking when building this is "how di I stop the whole thing being demolished by a landslide?"
14:01.15MonetBest solution I can consider is that there's a barrier-and-sluice system a little further up the mountain.
14:01.40NeonPandain Hel's case, about half the mountain is now his fortress, so yeah if the whole thing rockslides there ain't much you're doing to protect that really
14:04.06MonetXho: Also from the image you showed Dar-Nalunt is *much* larger.
14:04.15NeonPandaoh btw, grab butts and prep for magic thunder dinos
14:04.24MonetTHat wall must have been what, 20-30 storeys at least?
14:04.31OluapPlayerwut
14:04.41XhoMonet: About 50 metres
14:05.08XhoWell, 50 - 70
14:07.54XhoSo yeah about 20 storeys
14:08.31XhoBearing in mind that Dar-Nahalant was multi-functional as a palace, stronghold and temple
14:08.50XhoMuch of the courtyard was part of the fortress end
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14:09.06Monet_2What did I miss?
14:09.21XhoI said you were about right with your estimate
14:09.58Monet_2That sort of height hmm.
14:10.22XhoDar-Nahalant is multi-functional as a temple, fortress and palace so it is quite large
14:10.44XhoI would have imagined that the Warriors of Dar-Nahalant would have rarely bumped into each other if it were not for grouping in the same area
14:10.58Monet_2Well, the buildings surrounding the courtyard are 2-3 floors high. Accounting for Draconid height differences and space for opulence might be closer to 10 floors by human standards.
14:11.28XhoOrichalcum Elves are a similar size to Draconis so it would make sense
14:13.34XhoDoes make me wonder how normal-sized people can use their stairs
14:13.44XhoWould be an exercise
14:14.02Monet_2Would be like taking two steps at a time
14:16.14Monet_2On the plus side, being a massive fortress those steps would be quite broad.
14:16.27XhoIndeed
14:16.38XhoMuch of the fortress is built like a palace
14:17.04XhoIt's quite an atypical layout in comparison to most fortresses of the Orichalcum Elves
14:17.38XhoOr it may have been typical of the period it was built in but there are no surviving buildings of that time except for Dar-Nahalant itself
14:18.03XhoOrichalcum Elf architecture anyway
14:18.21XhoI don't know if there are any other archaeological sites of that age from other cultures
14:18.29XhoPossibly the Athsulisstai
14:19.02XhoAlthough very few buildings survive 27,000 years of wearing
14:19.38Monet_2The engineering feats to preserve such structures would be incredible
14:20.15Monet_2It must say something about the Alcanti Palace's scale when despite the opulence and volume of the outside part, most of it is subterranean.
14:20.16OluapPlayerif you can call magic engineering
14:20.20XhoOrichalcum Elves used magic hur
14:20.45XhoYou needed magical warding and protection in that time otherwise Dar-Nahalant would have been eradicated by the void gods
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14:21.07XhoHi
14:21.11Wormy_hello
14:21.23Wormy_I had the weirdest set of dreams
14:21.47XhoIf the question is that 'how come other Orichalcum Elf structures were destroyed' then the answer is because the Shiarchon went through a bonfire of the vanities period and destroyed much of their ancient heritage
14:21.53XhoDar-Nahalant went unnoticed however
14:22.03XhoWormy_: Oh dear here we go
14:22.47Wormy_One part, me and my friend was beheaded, and our heads were talking to each other, and then I realised I couldn't be talking to my friend because I'd be dead, and thus we were ghosts.  It only gets more bizzare and even sad in parts from there.  By the end of this dream I cried and asked if this was reality, and I woke up
14:23.45Wormy_Another part of the dream I was in a giant mech suite and I was picking up people and animals like they were toys on a mud planet
14:24.18Xhowormy been smokin the good juju
14:25.18Wormy_<PROTECTED>
14:25.52OluapPlayerby the end of this wormy will have transformed into a fractal
14:26.05Wormy_Tis the wind.  Turbid weather gives me bizzare-arse dreams
14:26.28Wormy_I did actually transform at one point and met my Master again
14:26.42OluapPlayerwow
14:28.12Wormy_That was before the hypnapompic place appeared before me
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14:31.36TreebeardHello
14:31.43Xhohi
14:31.49Wormy_It was so bizarre I was lead to question it all, thus gaining waking consciousness that ended the journey
14:32.12Wormy_hi
14:33.06OluapPlayerWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNVxmyx4Eb8&feature=youtu.be watch it before it gets taken down
14:35.50Xhoaku tho
14:36.23XhoI knew Greg Baldwin would voice AKu
14:36.27XhoAku even
14:36.50XhoHe took over Iroh in The Last Airbender when Mako died as well
14:37.10Wormy_Thanks, tho I need to see 1 first
14:37.31XhoSame actually
14:38.09Wormy_Is it on Amazon Prime?
14:38.44OluapPlayerNo idea
14:39.02Wormy_If so I could watch it on my mother's laptop
14:43.58Wormy_First Milliseconds of Nuclear Bomb Test Fireball‬  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQp1ox-SdRI
14:44.33XhoOluapPlayer: This is a lot bloodier than the original 4 seasons
14:44.48OluapPlayerYes
14:44.58OluapPlayerIt's airing on adult swim for a reason
14:45.53Wormy_I'm glad they catered to the audience that grew up with it
14:46.01XhoI guess that would be the reason
14:46.09XhoIt's darker than the original 4 as well
14:57.42XhoThat was good though
14:57.48XhoStill as intense as the old episodes
14:58.32OluapPlayerIndeed
15:02.50Monet_2http://orig10.deviantart.net/b6ac/f/2017/078/2/d/alcantipalace_5_by_spacer176-db2u09x.jpg right I'm happier with this layout
15:02.56XhoOluapPlayer: Is the Power of Shadow skin the Black Hand of Sauron
15:03.10XhoMonet_2: nice
15:03.10Tek0516Monet_2: That looks cool
15:04.05MonetIn hindsight the upkeep costs are prooobably on the insane side.
15:05.08dromMonet: That this something you are workin on? :o
15:05.21Monetdrom: Alcanti Imperial Palace
15:05.24Monetyeah
15:05.34dromA-ha
15:06.40dromThat is awesome, Monet.
15:08.11MonetOn the other hand the tourism and merchandising revenue from the royal family must be in the...twelve figures at least?
15:16.05OluapPlayerMonet: Yes
15:16.12OluapPlayerOops wrong person
15:16.14OluapPlayerXho: Yes
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15:25.41DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Le_random
15:25.44DrodoEmpire>Le Random
15:25.47DrodoEmpire>in 2017
15:26.04DrodoEmpiremrw https://media.tenor.co/images/fa2a14b50d21395f33da4dd8ee8eb322/tenor.gif
15:27.44Wormy_https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7Btbc6WgAA5Mau.jpg
15:30.31Monethttps://www.quora.com/Why-did-Palpatines-throne-room-on-the-second-Death-Star-have-an-exhaust-port-leading-into-it/answer/Brian-Collins-56?srid=uDTFS more Dest Star is dum.
15:31.24XhoOluapPlayer: Just insta-killed a Combat Master with a stealth kill
15:31.27XhoWas extremely satisfying
15:31.37OluapPlayerfeels good mang
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15:31.57Groxkiller98Hey.
15:32.50Wormy_Didn't know the nail went that far under http://imgur.com/gallery/EwL0q
15:32.54Wormy_hi
15:33.31Groxkiller98I'm considering having the Mithadorn Republic crumble under a GTE Blitz.
15:33.47Wormy_"If you hold the edge of your nail and push it gently up and down, you can see the part below the skin move too."
15:33.48Wormy_fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
15:34.03Groxkiller98At least in Exteroris, leaving only their Umbra and Ignotum colonies.
15:34.18Groxkiller98Shortly followed by the Ankoran and Teyan Imperium.
15:36.41Groxkiller98So, basically, my fictions are gonna collapse and  be destoryed.
15:36.49Groxkiller98destroyed*
15:37.37MonetGroxKiller90: The AGC could come to the nations aid.
15:37.45MonetPAE*
15:38.30Groxkiller98Yeah, that's true. But I'd rather have their slate wiped fresh.
15:38.52MonetAlright
15:39.02Groxkiller98Have their entire empires crumble to dust so they can be rebuilt in a new way.
15:39.49Groxkiller98>_> Gotta go already. Food is ready.
15:39.54MonetPerhaps refugees could escape to the PAE
15:39.56Monetoh
15:59.19XhoOluapPlayer Monet: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/172666459923514423/B55CB7F758A3AB712C0BF721CE6DC8B20E96817D/ This is the current state of Sauron's Army in my game
15:59.58OluapPlayerLots of ded
16:00.40MonetI love it when I get states like that
16:05.26Wormy_I think this man might be sincere but his records are wrong, but clearly his is very old, possibly  supercentenarian (=>110)  http://imgur.com/gallery/4e51B
16:05.35Wormy_*he
16:06.01Wormy_and has long since got confused
16:07.56MonetIt is possible
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16:13.30Wormy_I'm getting to that point in Bethesda games where one become all powerful and challenge declines :/
16:13.45Wormy_I could raise the hardness
16:14.17Wormy_getting noscope one shot kills all the time
16:14.30Wormy_even in close range with a sniper rifle
16:16.20Wormy_"The engineers probably thought they were killing two birds with one stone, not the Emperor."
16:16.23Wormy_I laughed
16:24.18Wormy_Wow so Paraguay has a coal fired ironclad warship in its landlocked navy
16:24.48Wormy_http://www.histarmar.com.ar/ArmadasExtranjeras/Paraguay/ARPHumaita.htm
16:24.52Wormy_from the 1920s
16:49.12XhoOluapPlayer: I have had a captain come back twice now
16:49.20XhoIt's a fucking Friendly one as well
16:49.24OluapPlayeroh boy
16:49.42XhoI had a Prak Jaws one earlier as well but he didn't last long
16:49.49XhoSince I've killed so many of them they're all low power
16:50.16Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/iFeDP
16:55.30XhoOluapPlayer: Four times now
16:55.44XhoThis guy will not fuck off
16:56.04OluapPlayerHe'll keep coming back until you cut his head off
16:59.08MonetI vaguely recall I've had orcs come back even when I decapitated them
16:59.15MonetOr if I exploded their heads.
17:02.23Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/bL9O8
17:04.05Wormy_jaybus http://imgur.com/gallery/B7cUH
17:10.44Wormy_That's what de-evolution would look like
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17:37.36HachimanHi
17:37.41Wormy_hello to you both
17:37.45HachimanXho DrodoEmpire Wormy_ Monet: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17362779_1240973312668621_645359650658456802_n.jpg?oh=ba30d1977906bd601e958b793fff0193&oe=5960511D
17:38.02DrodoEmpireayy lmao
17:38.07DrodoEmpireHey
17:38.20Wormy_I want to believe
17:38.36Wormy_Hachi:  http://imgur.com/gallery/B7cUH
17:38.54Hachiman"Hey Vsauce, divorce here"
17:39.05Hachimanolol
17:39.35Wormy_Also, Hachi, OluapPlayer, Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr2rgmFwOMs
17:40.30HachimanOh God I saw that
17:40.55Wormy_Catface linked it to me hur
17:41.28Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17352407_1239810399451579_6007963955999249838_n.jpg?oh=395e98dee23ff1be9196be9a4d0f4051&oe=59615CA5 "Hey Vsauce, Michael here. People on YouTube say that you just can't promote hard drugs while having a well-known, educational and kid-friendly channel. ...Or can you?"
17:42.27Wormy_you can teach all the foundations
17:43.28Wormy_DrodoEmpire: so Paraguay has a coal fired ironclad warship in its landlocked navy  http://www.histarmar.com.ar/ArmadasExtranjeras/Paraguay/ARPHumaita.htm
17:43.36Wormy_Drom the 1920s
17:43.39Wormy_*From
17:43.56DrodoEmpireOh wow
17:44.05DrodoEmpire-That's- an antique
17:44.22Wormy_They claim it can carry over a 1000 soldiers
17:45.02DrodoEmpireProbably yeah
17:45.22HachimanWormy_: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17264406_1235259863239966_8595376066153780216_n.jpg?oh=ccafbad5116c2095241c16ced83d7f9a&oe=596C767F
17:46.10Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17200953_1234502286649057_2625375126705734941_n.jpg?oh=0c26f84ef60d9c641438080ffbff6f61&oe=5967311B "Everybody should be laughing at Vsauce2"
17:46.13Wormy_Those guys, such divas
17:46.29DrodoEmpireHey, [B]Sauce, [B]eter here
17:47.02Wormy_Poor Veritasium, why is he being laughed at
17:47.17HachimanI dunno, apparently Veritasium isn't very popular for some reason hur
17:47.38HachimanI mean I personally don't find him anywhere near as entertaining as Michael
17:48.00Wormy_I'm inclined to agree
17:48.31Wormy_Though Veritasium's more focused, or was more, on physics related stuff
17:48.57Wormy_While Micheal became more general and gets more people
17:49.22HachimanI still need to pick up Mind Field
17:49.32HachimanApparently it's the only YouTube Red series worth watching hur
17:50.03Wormy_Seen the first, it was really good
17:51.36HachimanI actually wonder how Michael came to get acquainted with Jake and Kevin
17:51.47HachimanThey just seem much younger than he does hur
17:52.09Wormy_Maybe they worked at Google too, or met at university
17:52.38Wormy_*worked for
17:53.32Wormy_People are surprised by Micheal's ability for shits n giggles and other lad antics, but when one watches his old videos they can understand
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17:56.52XhoOluapPlayer: Wraith Flash is pretty useful
17:56.56Wormy_like here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_icISNqoS8
17:57.41OluapPlayerWhat's that do again?
17:58.03XhoDoes the splash damage thing that stuns everyone around you
17:58.08XhoAnd does dmage
17:58.10Xhodamage
17:58.24OluapPlayerAh, that
17:58.29OluapPlayerThat's good against ghuls
17:58.52Wormy_Hachiman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxwmC8B5wgg
18:00.39MonetScrew it I'm reinstalling
18:01.06XhoOluapPlayer: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/172666459923887603/F8E76D35B1D2264C0B355173D13A2E6178B6F61C/ Celebrimbor's face tho
18:01.33Wormy_I wonder what happene to Micheal's old video companions
18:02.19MonetXho: Oh Valar no!
18:02.28Monet-Brimbor
18:03.18MonetAlso the orc pulling the raepface behind him
18:05.01XhoLuga the Friendly has died at least three times to me
18:05.11XhoHe gets insta-killed by stealth finishers so he has died pretty easily
18:05.37OluapPlayerHe'll keep coming back until you take off his head
18:05.49OluapPlayerAnd yes, dat orc over his shoulder
18:05.52Monet"Ah no hard feelings to you stabbing me in the back, friend"
18:09.07Xhohttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/172666459923913913/FEA718ADA7E7A26D17E1B0665D7A5BFEC8DF19F0/ I was very pleased to have stealth-killed this guy
18:09.11XhoOtherwise it would have been tough
18:10.18OluapPlayerCombat Masters are unfun in general
18:16.45MonetI had one that was a combat master and immune to stealth kills.
18:17.14MonetNot fun. At least he was afraid of fire.
18:24.13dromWormy_ DrodoEmpire: Give it 3 another years and then they can throw a party for lasting one hundred years!
18:24.36Wormy_wow yes
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18:38.26CyrannianHai
18:38.55Xhoevening
18:39.02TreebeardHello
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18:41.52CyrannianHi
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18:52.37SporeFanIloveSpohello
18:52.55Monethi
18:53.41SporeFanIloveSpoI love spore. do you?
18:55.47DrodoEmpireIts alright.
18:59.45CyrannianI wonder if he likes Spore
19:00.14DrodoEmpireI dunno
19:00.20DrodoEmpireJury's out on that one my dude
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19:56.23AtsyBoiaaaaaa
19:57.49AtsyBoihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIOWGCPRIp0
20:04.47dromHi
20:05.07dromAndroImp: Did you know there are taxi service between Quel'Danas and Stormwind?
20:05.26dromI paid for one single ride solely for the Eastern Kingdom explorer achievement
20:05.37AndroImpIronforge actually
20:05.48AndroImpCause it used to be a high level zone
20:05.55dromAh
20:06.22dromMakes sense before I was flown to Ironforge's enterance before the loading screen appeared
20:06.28drombecause, even
20:08.34AtsyBoii am the lormat and i speak for the trees, the trees say you all must die
20:09.38dromMonet: Your work on the Alcanti Imperial palace has convinced me to dip once again my feet in the world of Blender and make simple models of sci-fi/fantasy locations
20:09.56dromIt was a good inspiration, I say.
20:12.43MonetI'm happy to inspired.
20:12.47Monetinspire*
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20:13.19AtsyBoisees 2 droms
20:14.31Monetdrom: I'm happy to inspire.  I feel like Maya or Blender could better capture the various worlds of the fiction- and fantasy-verse better.
20:15.09MonetXho's Spore models are amazing but I think I've found the tool I prefer.
20:15.34drom_Xho's models are indeed amazing.
20:15.46drom_Hats off to that
20:17.36drom_I try to find something artsy I like to do, but I find it hard to do so. Traditional drawing and free-form modelling are so far my favorites.
20:18.04Xhodanke
20:22.38drom_Out of all things I like the most is programming.
20:26.55AtsyBoiXho: pm
20:27.36XhoLiterally the fuck am I watching
20:30.08drom_Monet Xho AndroImp: They take justice like a real serious business. http://i.imgur.com/mubtCTx.png
20:32.26MonetAhh the days when a corpse could be put on trial.
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20:38.56TreebeardHello
20:39.36CyrannianHello
20:40.51AtsyBoiayyy
20:41.17drom_Hey
20:42.08Liquid_InkHello
20:43.11drom_Monet Xho Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/WRlExak.jpg
20:44.05Xhofoox
20:44.21MonetFLuffy
20:44.36drom_Hm, seems like my desktop finally went to sleep now
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20:56.28AndroImpdrom: http://lurkmore.so/images/8/8e/Liberator_Europe_map.jpg
20:56.47dromhur
20:58.55dromHey look AndroImp
20:58.56dromhttp://i.imgur.com/yW3zGr7.png
20:58.59dromWe are famous
21:01.45dromXho: http://imgur.com/gallery/utxePDK
21:02.13Xhooh dear
21:02.14Wormy_flooxy
21:09.18MonetI find it intriguing, reading up the tribesmen in Car Cry Primal speak PIE but many reviewers and ocmmentators refer to it as "some made up gibberish"
21:09.45Xhodoi
21:09.48Xhouneducated swines
21:10.32MonetAlthough I can't say how authentic the PIE in Primal is.
21:10.50Liquid_InkIt does sound like Simlish sometimes, especially when they sing.
21:11.58MonetPIE is quite a niche language to know.
21:12.45AndroImpPIE cannot be authentic-sounding
21:13.12AndroImpNobody knows how it really sounded
21:13.16AndroImpJust theories
21:13.34AndroImpAlso it is likely that PIE too changed over time
21:13.37Liquid_InkWell, they obviously just theorised enough to have a language for the game.
21:14.03AndroImpIt is the most well known proto language due to the wealth of linguistic material
21:16.00MonetThat might be a reason for the choice as the game I -think- takes place somewhere in Europe or possibly the Caucus region.
21:16.49MonetWikipedia says Central Europe.
21:17.32Liquid_InkThe game itself says Central Europe.
21:17.56MonetThanks
21:33.39dromMonet Wormy_: Apparently Blender has hotkeys for those who use Maya or max. http://i.imgur.com/W6a2Skx.png
21:33.55MonetOooh
21:34.19MonetI'll still need to learn a new interface though, right?
21:34.24dromIdk if it is really true. But it is worth knowing it.
21:34.31dromHuh, lemme test
21:35.33dromYeah, you still have to learn using Blender's own UI
21:35.57Monetah
21:36.27dromBut it does indeed change how your input is handled, depending on which preset you had selected.
21:36.28dromhttp://i.imgur.com/JrpHj2K.png
21:37.17dromAlso, it does not change Blender's finicky Z-up coordinate system
21:37.58MonetThat'll annoy my muscle memory
21:40.36dromhttp://i.imgur.com/nnbujlG.png
21:40.54dromThis when viewed from front-side
21:41.45dromPositive Y = box is moved backwards, positive X = box is moved to left, positive Z = box ascends
21:42.31dromAlso, to recognize the colors to respective axis think like this
21:42.39dromRGB = XYZ
21:44.49dromWell then. I'm off to bed. I'll be having a day full of poorly scheduled classes and shit paired with ass-long commuting
21:45.05dromAnd it will repeat until June
21:53.53Wormy_Maybe I'll start using Blemder again
21:56.22Wormy_I have a book about using it as a sci-vis tool
22:03.44AndroImpOluapPlayer: So Alyona acquainted me with a friend of hers, all of her photos I saw only showed her face
22:04.02AndroImpWhen she actually showed up it turned out she is about the height of my stomach
22:04.08AndroImpI will call her "Mezzalt"
22:04.15OluapPlayergnimo
22:04.52OluapPlayerI did ToV normal with my guild today and didn't die once, I'm pretty proud of myself hur
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22:17.30NeonPandahi all
22:18.35DrodoEmpireHi
22:20.14TreebeardHello
22:27.06NeonPandaso one of the gaming tournament streams I watch has a fun new gimmick: they have giveaways where they ask a question, get you to tweet in an answer, and then they run it through Bad Translator, fun ensues
22:27.28DrodoEmpireayy lmao
22:28.35NeonPandathe funniest tweet of course getting the giveaway
22:33.32NeonPandaalso, mfw a guy won a game by buffing one of his minions to hell and making it commit seppuku
22:35.58Cyranniannightie night
22:47.09Wormy_Monet:  I'm in love with Maya
22:47.16Wormy_Feels like it can do everything
22:48.02Wormy_that and you can build tools and extensions for it with python and c++ to further modify it
22:51.21*** join/#sporewiki Tek0516 (uid149600@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lipnaopshkcwnumj)
23:15.19Xhohttps://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/court-of-liars I got bored so I made a song
23:27.23MonetWormy_: Aye. Wonderful little toolkit.
23:51.36DrodoEmpiretest

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