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00:44.44 | DrodoEmpire | I got the z u c c yet again |
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00:45.37 | Wormy_semi_here | DrodoEmpire, Monet, Cyrannian: Iceland (supermarket) just DON GOOFED https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17342514_10158253949235184_2423527618683034164_n.jpg?oh=e045a22490e1eab1e281192ce8f50086&oe=595B7405 |
00:46.38 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
00:47.02 | Wormy_semi_here | the hashtag lol |
00:48.46 | DrodoEmpire | ohhh |
00:48.48 | DrodoEmpire | OHHHH |
00:48.58 | DrodoEmpire | holy shit lmao |
00:49.12 | Wormy_semi_here | Tweet hasn't been deleted either |
00:49.22 | Wormy_semi_here | https://twitter.com/IcelandFoods/status/841963124911669248 |
00:49.37 | DrodoEmpire | Nothing like a good deep anal bum party <.< |
00:50.09 | Wormy_semi_here | "Now I know why 'Mums go to Iceland'" |
00:50.23 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
02:02.51 | DrodoEmpire | test |
02:11.06 | Monet | So it seems the first few hours of ME: Andromeda have been reviewed |
02:11.54 | Monet | It's not sounding promising |
02:13.38 | DrodoEmpire | Uh oh.... |
02:14.17 | DrodoEmpire | What're the initial thoughts? |
02:14.43 | Monet | First contact with Andromeda's aliens is apparently them shooting you on sight. |
02:14.58 | Wormy_semi_here | http://www.pcgamer.com/the-internet-is-brutally-mocking-mass-effect-andromedas-animations/ |
02:15.17 | Wormy_semi_here | gobblegobblegobble |
02:15.22 | DrodoEmpire | I wheezed when I saw that firstgif |
02:15.42 | DrodoEmpire | Impish little strut she has going <.< |
02:16.14 | DrodoEmpire | Oh my god the animation is all so stiff |
02:16.17 | DrodoEmpire | Dialogue is |
02:16.18 | DrodoEmpire | Is |
02:16.31 | Monet | Third one: "I'm firing my gun backwards!" |
02:16.32 | DrodoEmpire | Well, my -soul- is fucking tired just hearing it |
02:16.34 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:16.50 | DrodoEmpire | This is the same company that gave us KOTOR and ME2 |
02:16.52 | DrodoEmpire | Now this >.< |
02:17.09 | Monet | What the fuck happened... |
02:17.25 | DrodoEmpire | I think a lot of people left and the general workplace culture got toxic, too |
02:17.28 | DrodoEmpire | That's what I hear |
02:17.58 | Monet | "I am forgiving and I am having fun but also they mention floating rocks four fucking times lol. The rocks float." |
02:19.02 | Monet | > In the middle of a firefight > "Since when do rocks float? Get your priorities right, lady. |
02:19.05 | Wormy_semi_here | Generic flosty rocks, ugh |
02:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:19.39 | Wormy_semi_here | goodnight |
02:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | Night! |
02:19.57 | DrodoEmpire | "Games from the early 2000's have better animations." |
02:21.10 | DrodoEmpire | This is true-- I'd take the animation style of the earlier Dynasty Warriors games, where it seemed to be based in an alternate-universe Imperial China where everybody develops late-stage Parkinson's by the time they're adults, than Andromeda's anims >.< |
02:24.38 | Monet | The dark age when head-bob was used to represent talking. |
02:25.45 | DrodoEmpire | hur yeah |
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11:45.01 | ImpyDroid | Should I tell her, or would it be rude? |
12:05.12 | Liquid_Ink | Rude |
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17:18.30 | Wormydroid | https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/ |
17:18.34 | Wormydroid | Pretty interesting |
17:34.04 | Imperios | Wormydroid: Linguists have a term for this |
17:34.10 | Imperios | "The naive picture of the world" |
17:34.28 | Imperios | It's not derogatory, it's referring to how people *normally* call and classify things and |
17:34.34 | Imperios | in their daily life |
17:35.36 | Imperios | It is not made through some conscious effort but simply through general consensus, as opposed to terminology, which is decided consciously by specialists |
17:36.54 | Imperios | So from that point of view, a distinction has to be made between fish as defined by various professionals and fish, as defined by normal people (and professionals in their daily life probably) |
17:40.50 | Ghelae | "Biologists defined by fiat that in cases of ambiguous animal grouping like whales, phylogenetics will be the tiebreaker. This was useful to resolve ambiguity, and itâs worth sticking to as a Schelling point so everyoneâs using their words the same way, but itâs kind of arbitrary and mostly based on biologists caring a lot about phylogenetics." |
17:42.15 | Imperios | As far as I understand the genetic principle sometimes conflicts with traditional taxonomic classification |
17:42.34 | Imperios | For example by technicality birds have to be considered reptiles |
17:42.35 | Imperios | And dinosaurs |
17:43.23 | OluapPlayer | They are, at least by people who do taxonomy |
17:44.03 | Imperios | Exactly, but noone would call a bird a dinosaur in their daily life |
17:44.07 | Ghelae | Birds are probably not a good example, because a hawk is more similar to a Velociraptor - in nearly every way - than a Velociraptor is to a Triceratops. |
17:44.10 | Imperios | That's the naive picture of the world |
17:44.19 | Imperios | Ghelae: Exactly |
17:44.49 | Imperios | By rules devised and agreed on by biologists, birds are dinosaurs |
17:44.50 | Ghelae | ...Yes, that does make it fit your general point even better. |
17:44.53 | Imperios | In our daily life, they are not |
17:45.07 | OluapPlayer | Them being dinosaurs isn't important to our day to day basis |
17:45.26 | Imperios | Yep |
17:45.33 | Ghelae | Although if Velociraptors were around today, people would probably think differently. |
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17:45.43 | Ghelae | On both of your comments. |
17:45.44 | Hachiman | Hi |
17:45.46 | Ghelae | Hello. |
17:45.52 | Hachiman | What we chatting about? |
17:45.54 | OluapPlayer | Well of course not |
17:45.59 | Ghelae | https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/ |
17:46.03 | Imperios | Religion, linguistics, and dinosaurs |
17:46.04 | Imperios | Apparently |
17:46.09 | OluapPlayer | mostly dinosaurs |
17:46.16 | OluapPlayer | rawr dinos awesome |
17:46.29 | Ghelae | "A category âfishâ containing herring, dragonflies, and asteroids is going to be stupid, but only in the same sense that a Palestinian state centered around Tel Aviv would be stupid â it fails to fulfill any conceivable goals of the person designing it." |
17:46.31 | Imperios | It started with Wormy posting an article about whales being called fish in the bible |
17:46.34 | Imperios | *Bible |
17:46.46 | Imperios | Which can be considered false, but it was practical for Hebrews at the same |
17:46.49 | Imperios | at the time |
17:47.07 | OluapPlayer | It's factually false, they just didn't know any better |
17:47.12 | Imperios | The same way it is practical for us to divide birds and reptiles, despite the fact that birds are considered reptiles by taxonomists |
17:47.40 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Here's my point, we have several definitions of every word: the naive one and the various professional ones |
17:47.40 | Ghelae | The point of the article is that it's not false; the Hebrew word that we translate as "fish" simply doesn't mean what we mean by "fish". |
17:48.11 | OluapPlayer | This reminds me of one unrelated thing which bothers me |
17:48.15 | Ghelae | They didn't know better, yes, but even if they did they might not care. |
17:48.18 | Imperios | In our daily life we define "dinosaurs" as "these cool ancient reptiles" |
17:48.48 | Imperios | The scientific definition is "group of genetically related animals which included these cool ancient reptiles and these feathery things which fly in the sky today |
17:48.54 | OluapPlayer | People who are against the notion of feathered theropod dinosaurs and claim that because these apparently have feathers, so did ALL dinosaurs |
17:48.56 | Imperios | includes even |
17:49.05 | OluapPlayer | Like, a feathered triceratops |
17:49.06 | Imperios | As for raptors living today |
17:49.11 | OluapPlayer | That's not a fucking thing that happened hur |
17:49.31 | Imperios | Velociraptors had feathers and birds and raptors have a roughly similar body type, so if raptors lived today, we would probably think of them as large flightless beakless birds |
17:49.40 | Hachiman | But |
17:49.50 | Hachiman | Triceratops did have feathers |
17:49.53 | Hachiman | It must have done |
17:50.09 | OluapPlayer | Triceratops weren't theropods |
17:50.18 | Hachiman | If the theropods had feathers, why not triceratops |
17:50.18 | Imperios | Triceratops - bitch I am fabulous |
17:50.32 | Imperios | There is no evidence that they did, and they did not necessarily need them |
17:50.40 | OluapPlayer | I can't tell if you're joking or not, I seriously hope you are |
17:50.56 | Hachiman | I am hur |
17:50.57 | Imperios | A triceratops would not need to conserve heat like a raptor would |
17:51.02 | Imperios | It's large and not as active |
17:51.05 | Imperios | Hm |
17:51.13 | Imperios | Did tyrannosauri have feathers doe |
17:51.17 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
17:51.18 | Hachiman | Theropods so yes |
17:51.28 | Imperios | So now it makes sense |
17:52.10 | Imperios | Very active = lots of heat energy needed |
17:52.22 | Imperios | Not as large = body does not conserve heat as easily |
17:52.35 | Imperios | Ergo you need special covering to help conserve it |
17:52.52 | OluapPlayer | I don't imagine a raptor would be considered a bird in the current day however, since they had reptilian heads with teeth which birds lack |
17:53.04 | Imperios | Hm |
17:53.07 | Imperios | That depends on the scenario |
17:53.39 | Hachiman | Well |
17:53.43 | Hachiman | Some birds have teeth |
17:53.51 | Hachiman | Such as penguins |
17:54.00 | OluapPlayer | It's not a common trait |
17:54.19 | OluapPlayer | I imagine people would consider them a feathered reptile rather than a toothed bird, they're closer to the former in description |
17:54.55 | OluapPlayer | We'd just expand on the idea that birds aren't the only creatures with feathers |
17:55.02 | OluapPlayer | bees have fur, so do we, we're not bees |
17:55.04 | OluapPlayer | or at least i hope not |
17:55.05 | OluapPlayer | BEES |
17:55.23 | Hachiman | >so do we |
17:55.25 | Imperios | So is it "we time travelled to the past and brought raptors with us" or "alternative history where raptors survived to the modern day" |
17:55.29 | Hachiman | Since when did humans have fur hur |
17:55.34 | Imperios | Headfur |
17:55.35 | Imperios | Or something |
17:55.35 | OluapPlayer | What is hair |
17:55.39 | Hachiman | Not fur |
17:55.48 | OluapPlayer | Literally how |
17:56.13 | Imperios | ^ See, the perfidy of definitions |
17:56.29 | Imperios | Also the perfidy of Hachi shitposting |
17:56.41 | Hachiman | Okay I'm a dumbass, fur and ass are literally chemically indistinguishable |
17:56.42 | OluapPlayer | "Fur is used in reference to the hair of non-human mammals" |
17:56.47 | Hachiman | *hair |
17:56.52 | Hachiman | Dunno how ass ended up in there |
17:57.03 | OluapPlayer | fur is chemically indistinguishable from SHIT |
17:57.40 | OluapPlayer | Anyway I'll leave the intellectual talk to the intellectuals and go back to my weeb videogames |
17:57.45 | Hachiman | non |
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17:58.56 | Wormydroid | That article led me to discover this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton |
17:59.19 | Imperios | Wormydroid: Did you get my messages? |
17:59.32 | Imperios | About the naive picture of the world |
17:59.40 | Wormydroid | Yes |
18:00.52 | Wormydroid | Test |
18:19.54 | Technobliterator | Mass Effect Andromeda is out tomorrow :o |
18:20.03 | Technobliterator | I'm not going to get on launch, but I probably will at some point this year |
18:33.41 | OluapPlayer | I'll take as you're looking forward to it so I'm not gonna comment |
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18:40.37 | OluapPlayer | Open game -> it doesn't load -> Steam says it's open |
18:40.42 | OluapPlayer | it's gonna be one of those then |
18:40.43 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
18:41.19 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, not for any reason other than "it's a new Mass Effect game" |
18:41.26 | Xho | hi |
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18:41.29 | Technobliterator | I've seen the animations and they look terrible |
18:41.37 | Technobliterator | and I am extremely skeptical |
18:41.39 | Wormy_ | hi |
18:41.39 | Technobliterator | hi wormy and xho |
18:41.50 | OluapPlayer | Why would you still get it if you know it's gonna be hot garbage? |
18:42.24 | Technobliterator | If it's a series I like, I normally get the new title just to hate on it |
18:42.44 | OluapPlayer | That makes no sense, you're supporting it by doing that |
18:42.54 | OluapPlayer | yall wonky |
18:43.06 | Xho | That makes less sense than |
18:43.13 | Xho | Hell I've never seen anything so illogical |
18:43.15 | Wormy_ | A review on bad reviews https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/03/16/this-is-why-its-a-bad-idea-for-games-like-mass-effect-andromeda-to-have-piecemeal-embargoes/#53646433690e |
18:43.47 | Xho | Wait are they saying ME: Andromeda has bad reviews |
18:43.57 | Technobliterator | It's basically because it's a series I really like, so I buy the new installment to see if there are any redeeming qualities, and mostly to say what things suck |
18:44.15 | Technobliterator | I do think the combat they've showed off and some things are super interesting, but I'm leaning towards thinking it'll probably be a mess |
18:44.21 | OluapPlayer | Andromeda is currently the laughing stock of the internet |
18:44.32 | Technobliterator | Because a) animations look horrible, b) it's EA, and c) they didn't release anything to reviewers yet |
18:45.13 | Wormy_ | a) I'll accept is correect, from what I've seen. But most of the reviews may be unrepresentative |
18:45.22 | Xho | Oh dear |
18:45.41 | Xho | Maybe there should be an image saying "Hype Kills" |
18:45.51 | Xho | But then again I never saw the hype for Andromeda |
18:45.59 | Technobliterator | I definitely do not regret getting Horizon Zero Dawn first, though |
18:46.06 | Technobliterator | Horizon Zero Dawn is easily the best game I've played in years |
18:47.52 | OluapPlayer | all I can say about Andromeda is |
18:47.54 | OluapPlayer | some BODY ONCE TOLD ME |
18:48.01 | Technobliterator | : | |
18:48.10 | Xho | its all ogre now |
18:49.10 | Wormy_ | its all medi-ogre |
18:49.16 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
18:49.17 | Hachiman | Hi btw |
18:49.22 | Xho | ohai |
18:49.24 | Wormy_ | Hello |
18:49.31 | Xho | Wormy gets best comment of the day |
18:49.40 | Xho | I do think games are becoming increasingly mediocre though |
18:49.50 | Hachiman | The Witcher thi |
18:49.52 | Hachiman | tho* |
18:50.05 | Xho | Haven't played any of the Witchers past 1 but I'll take your word for it |
18:50.20 | Xho | I might get back into it sooner or later but I found it too slow paced for my liking |
18:50.36 | OluapPlayer | There's been quite a number of good games lately, but the bad ones are obviously gonna be more notorious |
18:50.40 | Wormy_ | I was discussing with someone how game mechanics in some of the older titles reached a level of complexity and diversity unrivalled in modern games, which go for graphics or network features. |
18:51.09 | Hachiman | Hopefully Kojima's Death Stranding is gonna be good |
18:51.20 | Xho | Kojima is Kojima so we'd hope so |
18:51.30 | Wormy_ | Like, even 90's games could be as complex of modern game mechanics even though they look awful |
18:51.33 | Hachiman | Kojima is also responsible for MGS2 though |
18:51.35 | Technobliterator | We literally know nothing about Death Stranding |
18:51.41 | Technobliterator | And yes, he is responsible for MGS2 :| |
18:51.46 | Xho | Also I want to mention that I will be inactive next week |
18:51.56 | Hachiman | GOOD |
18:52.07 | Xho | yeh |
18:52.09 | OluapPlayer | I'm pretty sure people enjoy MGS2 |
18:52.14 | Technobliterator | However, MGS3 is the best game of all time |
18:52.16 | Xho | I'll be 1,500 miles away from home doing fuck all lol |
18:52.16 | Hachiman | >enjoying MGS2 |
18:52.17 | OluapPlayer | you're just salty cause you got bamboozled by raiden |
18:52.18 | Hachiman | what a thrill |
18:52.25 | OluapPlayer | That's 3 you fit |
18:52.26 | Technobliterator | and MGSV comes fairly close to it, but failed because Konami |
18:52.32 | OluapPlayer | git even |
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18:53.06 | Wormy_ | Hi |
18:53.09 | Hachiman | Xho: Where you gonna be at |
18:53.21 | Technobliterator | hihi Cyrannian |
18:53.21 | Cyrannian|SWTOR | Happy St. Patrick's Day errbody |
18:53.30 | Technobliterator | Happy St. Patrick's Day :o |
18:53.45 | Technobliterator | Also, I don't know if I've told you, but I need you for 2 paragraphs on the Borealis War when you get time |
18:53.57 | Wormy_ | Happy St. Patrick's. I'm wearing green! |
18:54.02 | OluapPlayer | Happy leprechaun day |
18:54.10 | OluapPlayer | Anyway gonna go play Nier Automata now |
18:54.21 | Wormy_ | Will likely avoid drinking out because it could be rowdy as fuk |
18:54.25 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: do not fist android girls |
18:54.32 | Hachiman | Playing, rather |
18:55.29 | Technobliterator | Is Nier Automata any good> |
18:55.30 | Technobliterator | ? |
18:55.34 | Hachiman | Apparently so |
18:55.44 | Hachiman | I haven't played it; I bought it for Oluap so he could tell me |
18:55.50 | Hachiman | The main character is fucking gorgeous though |
18:56.13 | Xho | Spain |
18:57.47 | Xho | Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AJa-shonar qt catboi is not qt catboi |
18:58.07 | Hachiman | He has a Splinter beard |
18:58.22 | Xho | meow |
18:58.28 | Hachiman | Looks good tho |
18:58.30 | Wormy_ | What part of Spain? |
18:58.47 | Hachiman | "2.97 m (9'9")" |
18:58.51 | Hachiman | >9'9 |
18:59.04 | Hachiman | is dis a nine lives reference or sumfin |
18:59.18 | Xho | Valencia |
18:59.23 | Xho | Hachiman: It is ow |
18:59.24 | Xho | now |
18:59.28 | Xho | Or is it |
18:59.29 | Cyrannian|SWTOR | Lucky xho is lucky |
18:59.29 | Wormy_ | Nice |
18:59.32 | Xho | NINE FACED GOD |
18:59.38 | Wormy_ | I went to Seville and Valencia |
19:00.32 | Wormy_ | Seville was highly sophisticated (except for animal rights) that I felt coming back to the UK made it look barbarous |
19:00.52 | Xho | heh |
19:01.05 | Wormy_ | Manchester at night, not a good place to be |
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19:01.24 | OluapPlayer | Well, it crashed my computer |
19:01.31 | OluapPlayer | Guess I won't be playing after all |
19:01.31 | Hachiman | Fuck |
19:01.32 | Xho | heck |
19:01.41 | Hachiman | How'd it crash? |
19:01.57 | OluapPlayer | I tried to start the game |
19:02.03 | OluapPlayer | It froze and crashed everything |
19:02.10 | Hachiman | Fucking hell |
19:02.19 | Hachiman | Might have been a case of bad luck? |
19:02.40 | OluapPlayer | I don't know, but I'm not feeling like trying again right now |
19:04.12 | Imperios | Wormy_ Hachiman: Wow, apparently some peasants in northern Russia practiced animal sacrifice up to the 20th century |
19:04.27 | Hachiman | Doesn't surprise me |
19:04.34 | Imperios | They would immolate goats as a sacrifice to Prophet Elijah |
19:04.34 | Wormy_ | Doesn't surprise me too much |
19:04.55 | Imperios | Do you imply that Russians are uncivilised brutes hur |
19:04.59 | Hachiman | Yes |
19:05.07 | Imperios | I mean this is not necessarily false |
19:05.10 | OluapPlayer | yes yall a bunch of bear-wresting savages wearing nike shoes |
19:05.28 | Hachiman | After hearing about what went on in the gulags and how escapees would practice cannibalism |
19:05.58 | Wormy_ | It doesn't surprise me because even Western Europeans carried and carry out strange rituals from the savage dark ages, often involving animals. |
19:06.54 | Imperios | Yes because people, frequently of criminal background, starved and tortured by a totalitarian regime, in a life and death situation, can totally represent the entire multiethnic population of one of the most populous countries in the world |
19:07.04 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
19:07.11 | Imperios | It's that simple |
19:07.19 | OluapPlayer | wow it's not like stereotypes are a thing |
19:07.23 | OluapPlayer | and they're often wrong |
19:07.37 | Wormy_ | Impy: Russians are big and scary to us |
19:07.43 | Imperios | That was in response to Hachi |
19:08.19 | Hachiman | I mean |
19:08.23 | Wormy_ | Impy: I mean consider the world cup, the Russian Ultras going around picking fights with anyone wearing red and white |
19:08.29 | Hachiman | Your reasoning isn't wrong |
19:09.14 | Cyrannian | Poor goats doe |
19:09.32 | Hachiman | I'm kidding by the way; I'm not surprised by eastern Russian animal mutilation stuff since I've generally come to accept that populations of people across the world still practice barbarism and whatnot |
19:09.47 | Hachiman | Like Middle Eastern female genital mutilation |
19:10.15 | Wormy_ | I remember hearing that mothers would even try to eat their children during the Siege of Leningrad |
19:10.20 | Imperios | Good |
19:10.31 | Wormy_ | It may even be a more general human thing in times of deep desperation |
19:10.36 | Imperios | Wormy_: Oooh we were told about that |
19:10.54 | OluapPlayer | It was in the news recently that a woman cut off her son's dick because it was "too big for his age" |
19:11.01 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
19:11.02 | OluapPlayer | Granted that's not cultural and more insanity-based |
19:11.09 | Wormy_ | damn |
19:11.27 | Imperios | A militia group entered a house and smelled something boiling; the family explained they were farming a soup |
19:11.46 | Imperios | The militia entered the house and saw a human finger boiling in the cauldron |
19:12.48 | Cyrannian | "Whoops, I was wondering where I dropped that" |
19:12.58 | Hachiman | Why though? |
19:13.09 | OluapPlayer | cause they ran out of food |
19:13.13 | OluapPlayer | and had to resort to cannibalism |
19:13.57 | Imperios | Hachiman: On the other hand, they ate the goat afterwards, so animal sacrifice was hardly exceedingly cruel or needless here |
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19:14.17 | OluapPlayer | iirc Leningrad was sieged by the nazis and their strategy was basically to surround the city and wait until the populace starved the death |
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19:14.29 | Wormydroid | There are stories of cannibalism in the North Korean camps too |
19:14.37 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: That was the intention |
19:14.38 | Imperios | Plus bombing |
19:14.48 | Hachiman | Ah |
19:14.57 | Hachiman | I'm sick so excuse me for being a dumbass hur |
19:15.06 | OluapPlayer | ur a dumbass all the time tho |
19:15.14 | Hachiman | yeh dats y im friends wiv u u fukr |
19:15.17 | Wormydroid | This man found three skulls of children in a couldron cooked up by several people |
19:15.23 | Imperios | The citizens actually painted the landmarks grey so they would not be noticed by German pilots |
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19:15.57 | Hachiman | Sounds like grounds for witchcraft |
19:16.02 | Wormy__ | Bad |
19:16.04 | Wormydroid | Internet |
19:16.33 | Hachiman | I feel like I should do more to show how horrible witches actually are in Koldenwelt |
19:16.48 | Hachiman | the only witches we hav r qt student grill an old birb |
19:17.22 | OluapPlayer | Clotho - i can do horrible things to hachi when he makes me mad |
19:17.42 | Imperios | This is kind of weird if you think about it |
19:18.02 | Imperios | https://cont.ws/uploads/posts/75865.jpg "Let's paint it grey to hide it" |
19:18.24 | Hachiman | Like, witches and hags and the like would steal babies and children, kill them, and then crush and grind their bodies to make flying ointment |
19:18.58 | OluapPlayer | I'm sure there are evil witches around, but the word witch itself doesn't automatically mean evil baby-eating hag as far as the fantasyverse goes |
19:19.06 | Wormy_ | I'm reminded of that web comic about the possessed hat stealing children to eat them so she could grow a new body. |
19:19.07 | OluapPlayer | There are good and bad practitioners of all kinds of magic |
19:19.10 | Cyrannian | I made some space witches a while ago, but I've rarely used them |
19:19.12 | Monet | Hasn't the Sea Witch implied she's done peculiar stuff. |
19:19.33 | OluapPlayer | The Sea Witch was mostly a prankster |
19:19.45 | OluapPlayer | Though she's made clear her people has no quarrel with eating other sapients |
19:19.57 | Monet | She strikes me as a woman that likes to cook with various animal parts in her spare time. |
19:20.04 | OluapPlayer | She does |
19:20.22 | Hachiman | Wormy_: I remember that, such a good comic too |
19:20.34 | Hachiman | The story was actually strangely compelling and awesome hur |
19:20.50 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
19:21.03 | Hachiman | And yeah, it seems the Sea Witch's strangeness comes more out of her race than her occupation |
19:21.07 | Monet | Cyrannian: Doesn't help as this is Koldenwelt. |
19:21.13 | Hachiman | And her own cranky disposition |
19:21.29 | OluapPlayer | Mostly her own crankiness |
19:21.36 | OluapPlayer | Her people are good-natured overall |
19:21.45 | Cyrannian | Wasn't trying to help, I was just mentioning it hur |
19:21.56 | OluapPlayer | wow thx u shite |
19:22.15 | Hachiman | I envision that evil witches in the Fantasyverse are probably powerful wild spellcasters and the like |
19:22.40 | Hachiman | And consort with the likes of the darker Simulacra and / or Isiris' darker aspects |
19:23.05 | Wormy_ | I still need to finsh my not!-withfinder General story |
19:23.31 | Imperios | Actually yes |
19:23.45 | Imperios | I wonder what kind of sacrificial magic is practiced on Koldenwelt |
19:23.46 | OluapPlayer | Mortium - no you may not have my boner |
19:24.01 | Imperios | I imagine that Freelanders who worship Zran Kar can have some sort of blood magic derived from their sacrifices |
19:24.22 | Hachiman | Crux worshipers practice cannibalism outright I imagine |
19:24.30 | Imperios | Yeah but it's not for magical power |
19:24.36 | OluapPlayer | Crux worshipers barely know they're people hur |
19:24.37 | Imperios | They do not eat people FOR THE GLORY OF CRUX |
19:26.07 | Hachiman | I imagine that acts of mass cannibalism and whatnot are probably used for summoning rituals for Crux's Idkin or just to perpetuate Id magic in the area |
19:26.27 | Hachiman | Mass cannibalism, rape, other forms of violence and the like |
19:26.35 | Xho | Hachiman: wut about taihadrae for being a witch |
19:26.37 | OluapPlayer | Vestige - that's not what i meant when i said "let's feast" |
19:27.08 | Hachiman | wut bout taihadrae |
19:27.09 | Imperios | Hachiman: Speaking of that animal sacrifice thing, apparently some people revived that festival in the modern day |
19:27.12 | Imperios | Except with clay goats |
19:27.19 | Xho | Talking about morally questionable witches |
19:27.31 | Hachiman | I can imagine Taihadrae kinda fitting the bill for a witch |
19:27.35 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian, not sure if you saw this message, but I need you for 2-3 paragraphs for the Borealis War when you get a chanc |
19:27.36 | Technobliterator | e |
19:27.39 | Hachiman | Except she doesn't do disgusting witch stuff beyond necromancy |
19:27.57 | Xho | well she's an elven woman of value |
19:27.58 | Xho | or something |
19:28.22 | Xho | One could make a Skaurovirn witch to fit the bill but I don't feel like doing that |
19:28.25 | Cyrannian | Technobliterator: Ah, didn't know that was directed at me. What would you like me to write? |
19:29.07 | Hachiman | Xho: Witches are also supposed to be able to go between looking like hags and beautiful women, so good luck with a Skaurovirn doing dat shit |
19:29.21 | Technobliterator | Basically, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_2#The_Gigaquadrant.27s_Response is just where we have your guys react to the War Economy and how they're going to avoid it/take advantage of it |
19:29.47 | Monet | Good news is I might be able to squeeze in some time tonight. |
19:29.52 | Technobliterator | Just needs 2-3 paragraphs from every extragalactic in the war (although Ghel's section is below) |
19:29.57 | Technobliterator | oh, nice :o |
19:30.01 | Xho | Hachiman: Skaurovirn to WTF |
19:30.18 | Xho | I don't exactly know what Skaurovirn women are meant to look like |
19:30.31 | Hachiman | Skaurovirn |
19:30.33 | Xho | Skaurovirn men are gaunt and gargoyle like |
19:30.38 | Xho | well fucking done hachi 10/10 |
19:31.10 | Hachiman | Skaurovirn women are gaunt and gargoyle-like except they have massive tits |
19:31.13 | Hachiman | c |
19:31.36 | Xho | >tfw flat chested |
19:31.37 | OluapPlayer | projectile vomit/10 |
19:31.42 | Xho | and that |
19:32.04 | Cyrannian | Rite, so the Empire's response? Or the Cognatus? I'm not sure either had much involvement in this part of the war. |
19:32.16 | Xho | There might be a hint of beauty behind the women but mostly veiled by the fact that they're demonic in appearance |
19:32.34 | OluapPlayer | You're in the war as the Civitas, so presumably you write their response to it |
19:33.27 | Hachiman | Could be some sorta deal like with Frankenstein; he had all the features of a handsome or beautiful man, but instead of being actually attractive, he looked more like a mockery or something |
19:33.32 | Cyrannian | dey not extragalactics |
19:33.46 | OluapPlayer | In that case you don't write anything hur |
19:34.19 | Hachiman | Could be that Skaurovirn women have features which should make them beautiful but only serves to sorta make them look more unnerving or discomforting |
19:34.23 | OluapPlayer | What you can do is write NCR stuff in the Ancient Three war |
19:34.50 | Hachiman | Also about to kick myself for saying Frankenstein and not Frankenstein's monster |
19:35.56 | Technobliterator | Well, you could write about the Empire's response if they've been watching Borealis up til this point? Otherwise yeah, you might not have to add a response after all |
19:35.57 | Technobliterator | whoops |
19:36.35 | Xho | Hachiman: Makes sense |
19:36.37 | OluapPlayer | Actually, you can write as the Empire since they participated in the Heleanorian sub-plot |
19:36.38 | Cyrannian | I'll pop out a page for Nils Agmaer |
19:37.50 | Technobliterator | oh yeah |
19:38.37 | Cyrannian | I'm not sure we established what the Empire was doing after that plot, apart from twirling their lizard moustaches |
19:39.54 | OluapPlayer | Nope, we didn't |
19:46.02 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: http://imgur.com/gallery/cWnwi |
19:47.00 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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19:50.01 | Treebeard | Hello |
20:02.14 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: lol |
20:02.39 | Monet | https://www.quora.com/What-concessions-to-scientific-accuracy-did-The-Martian-make-and-why/answer/Andy-Weir?srid=uDTFS this was intriguing |
20:04.00 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman Monet Imperios: https://i.imgur.com/TbysjTm.jpg |
20:04.05 | Wormy_ | That, and perchlorates in much of the soil left untreated would give potatoes a heard time growing |
20:04.15 | Wormy_ | *hard |
20:04.45 | Hachiman | dat chaos space babe |
20:04.58 | Monet | OlaupPlayer: THat seems like a very Guardsman-like Raider |
20:05.08 | Hachiman | Traitor Guardsmen |
20:05.18 | Monet | Yeah |
20:05.22 | Wormy_ | oh dear the roof of my mouth has started feeling tickly |
20:05.33 | Wormy_ | That's always the sign |
20:06.01 | Monet | Although that might bring the question of how a group of traitor guardsemn were entrusted with a Chaos Land Raider. |
20:06.02 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: This code has given me a few "But why" moments, now from several "if(boolean == true)" type situations. >.> |
20:06.21 | OluapPlayer | Previous owners were eaten by daemons |
20:07.13 | Wormy_ | agh booleans |
20:07.26 | Monet | Guardsmen - Thank the Chaos Gods for this fortune! *paints a sexy Berseker and write "blam-a-lam" on the Lascannons* |
20:07.44 | OluapPlayer | Slaanesh - [thumbs up with 3 tentacles] |
20:08.25 | Monet | Bonus points for making fun of Khorne. |
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20:12.21 | drom | Imperios: Something tells me you are the Priest helping me grinding this BW instance |
20:12.33 | Imperios | Lolno |
20:13.21 | drom | Well he asked me if I knew someone who was lv 60 and wish to do BW |
20:13.53 | Technobliterator | Imperios, Borealis War reminder |
20:13.54 | Technobliterator | :V |
20:13.57 | drom | And I said no |
20:13.58 | Imperios | y |
20:14.04 | Imperios | I just need to write a few sentences |
20:14.32 | Imperios | Wait |
20:14.33 | Imperios | BW |
20:14.43 | Imperios | Technobliterator: So a few sentences of reactions right? |
20:14.53 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
20:15.01 | OluapPlayer | Describe what the Divinarium thinks of the War Economy |
20:15.11 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/75/AgmaerProfile.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317201456 - Heleanorian dood |
20:15.24 | OluapPlayer | nito |
20:15.28 | Technobliterator | Yup |
20:15.44 | Technobliterator | and if they want to take advantage of it or just give up hope on the galaxy or whatever |
20:33.16 | OluapPlayer | Xho: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/233/386/f4e.png |
20:33.33 | Xho | hoh |
20:33.40 | Xho | Man that's some bad animation |
20:33.55 | OluapPlayer | ME: Andromeda, actually ME as written by RubberFruit |
20:43.12 | Technobliterator | Yeah, the animation and the character models are pretty poor |
20:43.27 | Technobliterator | So far it's the only criticism I've heard, though |
20:43.51 | Hachiman | The AI is also bad |
20:43.59 | Monet | And the dialogue. |
20:44.02 | Technobliterator | I haven't heard about that |
20:44.04 | Hachiman | And the dialogue |
20:44.06 | OluapPlayer | And the writing |
20:44.15 | Technobliterator | Well, dialogue and writing are basically the same thing |
20:44.16 | Hachiman | There are videos showing the companions and enemies acting retarded and not following or tracking the player |
20:44.22 | Hachiman | No they're not? |
20:44.26 | Monet | First planet you visit has floating rocks, first contact amounts to random aliens shooting you on sight |
20:44.36 | Technobliterator | oh |
20:44.41 | Technobliterator | I thought you meant dialogue was badly written |
20:44.46 | Hachiman | It is |
20:44.54 | Technobliterator | but it turns out everything is badly written |
20:44.58 | OluapPlayer | All the writing is dogshit, dialog included |
20:44.59 | Hachiman | Yes |
20:45.00 | Monet | "Sorry, my face is tired" *dead expression* |
20:45.10 | Technobliterator | I mean |
20:45.17 | OluapPlayer | "He's dead" *goofy smile* |
20:45.22 | Technobliterator | it strikes me as another game that EA released too early |
20:45.23 | Hachiman | "My father died" *grin* |
20:45.44 | Technobliterator | it's a shame because I really liked the combat and some of the stuff I saw |
20:45.46 | Monet | It seems like they tried to separate the expressions and the dialogue. |
20:45.51 | Technobliterator | but I definitely won't get it on release |
20:45.59 | Hachiman | Don't get it at all |
20:46.01 | OluapPlayer | and don't get me started on the asari |
20:46.03 | Hachiman | Don't support this hur |
20:46.05 | Technobliterator | no, I will get it |
20:46.06 | Technobliterator | to hate on it |
20:46.07 | Technobliterator | :V |
20:46.09 | Hachiman | Yeah the asari look like ogres now |
20:46.12 | OluapPlayer | raccoon-eyed shrek-faced asari |
20:46.16 | OluapPlayer | someBODY |
20:46.24 | Monet | Who fires a gun backwards |
20:46.37 | OluapPlayer | yes, how do you fuck up this badly |
20:46.55 | Monet | Technobliterator: First part will be free on Origin Access |
20:47.21 | Technobliterator | I am very glad I didn't preorder now, though |
20:47.35 | Technobliterator | I might jsut spend money on Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy instead |
20:48.31 | Xho | <PROTECTED> |
20:48.44 | Technobliterator | when are the reviews releasing |
20:48.47 | OluapPlayer | Why would you subject yourself to /r9k/? |
20:48.48 | Technobliterator | I expect 7/10 |
20:48.56 | OluapPlayer | You have no one to blame but yourself |
20:49.13 | Xho | Good point |
20:49.16 | Xho | rollin out |
20:49.21 | Monet | Technobliterator: For Crash or MEA? |
20:49.24 | Technobliterator | MEA |
20:49.34 | Technobliterator | Though, I don't expect Crash's reviews to be that high, given how it's an old game |
20:49.40 | Monet | SOme journalists are already publishing first impressions. |
20:49.54 | Technobliterator | oh? |
20:50.24 | Monet | RPS has a nice fat juicy account of the team's first several hours. |
20:52.53 | Cyrannian | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e7/SGCW_Battle_of_Coruanthor.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317205043 - big city pew pew |
20:53.30 | Technobliterator | :o |
20:53.34 | Technobliterator | that picture looks amazing |
20:53.50 | OluapPlayer | breddy gud |
20:54.00 | OluapPlayer | Happening dangerously close to the surface |
20:54.25 | Cyrannian | Aye, the battle reaches from the lowest streets to upper orbit |
20:54.52 | Monet | I will actually agree here. |
20:55.09 | Monet | A lot of those lower starships could very easily fly into buildings I think. |
20:56.18 | Treebeard | Even if the New Republic wins, a lot of buildings are going to be flattened by the debris. |
20:56.56 | Monet | You could win the battle but still lose the city. |
20:57.11 | Cyrannian | Yes, that planet has awful luck, it was devastated by the Neraida during this battle: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neraida_War/Battle_of_Coruanthor |
20:57.29 | Cyrannian | If you look at the bottom of the image, you can see the top of a crashed destroyer |
20:58.17 | Monet | Yeah... |
20:58.45 | Monet | Every block it lands on and the blocks around it might be toast. |
20:59.02 | Monet | Airliner crashes in urban areas are works case scenarios. |
20:59.05 | Monet | worst* |
20:59.11 | drom | But yeah. Imperios. I ain't lying. I am indeed level 60 now. |
21:00.39 | Hachiman | Lotsa dead folk |
21:01.47 | Monet | I tink it might be fairer to say that after this battle that city would be New Orleans after Katrina. |
21:03.13 | drom | If ya wonder how that Blackwing Lair grind went |
21:03.35 | drom | The priest only needed these elementinum bars and I got rest of the loot |
21:03.54 | drom | Then they taught me how to get heirlooms and how to use them. Then invited me to their guild. |
21:03.59 | drom | That is real nice |
21:04.46 | Imperios | drom: Let's go to Outland together senpai~ |
21:08.50 | drom | One moment as I go and upgrade my riding expertise |
21:09.03 | Hachiman | Xho OluapPlayer: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17362469_1008311965968651_1522521741224113652_n.jpg?oh=0ee948c14522361f61e75acdc9a13608&oe=596E9F3C |
21:09.29 | Xho | fucking hell |
21:09.36 | OluapPlayer | things that never happened, part one |
21:09.45 | Xho | and that |
21:09.48 | Xho | But still |
21:11.59 | OluapPlayer | Monet: https://www.twitch.tv/monolithlive they're talking about Shadow of War right now |
21:12.34 | Xho | Hachiman: What exactly happens to anti-magic/adamantine in the presence of sun/void magic |
21:12.51 | Hachiman | It works |
21:13.00 | Xho | Well void magic is a given since it's two anti-magics colliding |
21:13.23 | Hachiman | Adamantine I like to imagine is strong enough to resist most effects of Sun magic |
21:13.35 | OluapPlayer | There's no reason for any kind of Source magic to not be affected by adamantine & otehrs |
21:13.52 | Xho | Orichalcum Elf - AURAREL VULT wait what |
21:15.35 | Xho | I could imagine an Orichalcum Elf and Adamantine Elf in combat would reduce it from a demigod swordfight to just a regular swordfight |
21:15.44 | Hachiman | Aye |
21:15.47 | Xho | Many ??? from both sides |
21:16.20 | Hachiman | This is why Adamantine Elves had to get fucked over |
21:16.34 | Hachiman | And why I write adamantine as being super rare in Koldenwelt hur |
21:16.45 | Xho | I think all the op god races got their comeuppance |
21:17.11 | Hachiman | Adamantines weren't an OP god race hur |
21:17.20 | Xho | adamantine is pretty fucking powerful tho |
21:17.37 | Hachiman | Only in the presence of magic |
21:17.45 | Xho | Orichalcum Elves - not cool |
21:17.55 | Hachiman | It was their schtick that they wanted to free Koldenwelt from the likes of gods and whatnot |
21:17.56 | Xho | Orichalcum Elves had magic coming out of the wazoo |
21:18.22 | Xho | What exactly destroyed them in the end |
21:18.28 | Xho | I would know IF THEY HAD A PAGE |
21:18.31 | Xho | YOU LAZY BASTARD |
21:18.32 | OluapPlayer | Isiris - well aint you a bunch of little shits |
21:18.40 | Hachiman | A combination of other elves, the Colossi, the Simulacra, etc |
21:18.46 | Monet | I recall agreeing with Xho that Orocathrheim might have some of the last accessible Adamantine veinsleft. |
21:18.59 | Xho | I remember that vaguely |
21:19.03 | OluapPlayer | Hachi owns adamantine tho, not Xho |
21:19.08 | Hachiman | They basically pissed everyone off and got their shit wrecked for it |
21:19.17 | Monet | This was before Hachi took over I think |
21:19.39 | OluapPlayer | I don't remember adamantine existing in the setting before Hachi introduced it |
21:20.16 | Xho | I'm writing up on Aurelian Platinum hence the questions |
21:20.23 | Xho | I need to figure out weaknesses for it |
21:20.29 | Xho | Which is anti-magic and void magic sofar |
21:20.30 | Xho | so far |
21:20.41 | Monet | We had the adamantine age that was conceived long ago, named after said metal when it was dominant. |
21:20.44 | Xho | That being said it can repel void magic although with a difficulty |
21:21.07 | OluapPlayer | It had the name, but the metal itself wasn't present |
21:21.08 | Monet | This was before you two effectively resculpted the metaphysical side of fantasyverse. |
21:21.32 | Xho | It loses its imperishable nature when coming into contact with void magic |
21:21.43 | Monet | So at the time it was liek a cheeper less OP Oriacalcum |
21:21.59 | OluapPlayer | There was never any orichalcum metal either |
21:22.04 | OluapPlayer | There still isn't |
21:22.07 | Xho | I had the idea of toning down as there were multiple imperfect weapons made from Aurelian Platinum which looked nice but didn't do the job |
21:22.28 | Hachiman | Xho: That or they had very specific, niche uses |
21:22.29 | Xho | Most of the proper weapons were destroyed by the Shiarchon |
21:22.41 | OluapPlayer | Granted, orichalcum is technically just an old word for bronze |
21:22.51 | Monet | So what the fuck were the namings of the Oriacalcum age or the Adamantine Age? |
21:22.58 | Hachiman | Rule of cool |
21:23.03 | OluapPlayer | More or less |
21:23.08 | Xho | yup |
21:23.13 | Hachiman | We thought they sounded good so we went with it |
21:23.25 | Ghelae | They were named after the metals, but the metals hadn't then been properly described in the context of the fantasyverse. |
21:23.54 | Xho | There's only one Aurelian Platinum weapon mentioned in the Fantasyverse and that's Septimus' sword |
21:24.06 | Hachiman | I don't like this idea that metals are intrinsically more powerful; adamantine effectively nullifies strong magic in its presence, sure, but I don't envision it being naturally much more resistant than average good-quality steel |
21:25.13 | Monet | It also somewhat flies in the face of basic metallurgy. |
21:25.17 | OluapPlayer | I can agree with that since OP things are dumb |
21:26.00 | Xho | I think I had the idea that modern Shiarchon craft was folded metal |
21:26.05 | Xho | Or that was Wormy actually |
21:26.06 | Monet | What makes steel so damn awesome is it's an alloy. It's iron that has been enhanced by the addition of extra components. |
21:27.03 | Hachiman | Like, the thing is, if a metal or element is so damn resistant that it absorbs damage and whatever - how is it supposed to be mined? |
21:27.07 | Hachiman | Or worked with? |
21:27.14 | OluapPlayer | very carefully |
21:27.19 | Monet | That is one of the things about invincible raw metal |
21:27.31 | Monet | If you can't affect it ,you can't shape it. |
21:28.16 | Xho | I did mention the Orichalcum Elves forged their Aurelian Platinum weapons by carving it with sun magic but it was extremely difficult regardless |
21:28.26 | Xho | Hence why most of the surviving weapons are comparably shit |
21:28.41 | Xho | Pretty but not very useful |
21:29.03 | Xho | Maybe as an envelope opener or a butter knife |
21:29.34 | Monet | I think I wrote that even the most common draonoggr is capable of manipulating the source into a projection of fire from the mouth. |
21:30.11 | Xho | Aurelian Platinum was really only useful to repel void creatures or dark magic creatures |
21:30.12 | OluapPlayer | that's just a fancy way of saying they have fire breath |
21:30.21 | Xho | Other than that it was just fancy weapons |
21:30.51 | Monet | They use magic ot make fire breath sue me |
21:31.08 | OluapPlayer | So does every other fire breather hur |
21:31.26 | Monet | Although I guess a creative bonus is more proficient Drao could do special things with their breath |
21:31.47 | Hachiman | Like warm blow jobs |
21:32.03 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source#Aurelian_Platinum Not as op as it sounds, just very effective against dark things |
21:32.06 | Monet | Dro Magi/sorcerors could breathe jets that could melt steel for instance |
21:32.26 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: Kalcedia - watch dis magic trick |
21:32.32 | Monet | Or it could be a quality a number of mountain ords develop |
21:32.41 | Monet | lords* |
21:33.06 | Xho | But as far as I can gather Aurelian Platinum isn't as practical to use as most metals |
21:33.08 | Hachiman | I must wonder how often magic is used in sex in Koldenwelt, or how magic ties into people's personal lives outside of combat |
21:33.08 | Xho | Platinum is heavy |
21:33.16 | OluapPlayer | Hamoins - much |
21:33.29 | Xho | Nor is by carving it with sun magic a very effective way to make a weapon |
21:33.55 | Hachiman | I can just imagine that some elven nations have strict regulations on how magic is applied - like, love potions are naturally quite creepy |
21:34.17 | OluapPlayer | Szalvetha - oops i made 50 and lost them around the collegium |
21:34.29 | Xho | I could imagine by a certain point in history the Orichalcum Elves just resorted to forging alloys because Aurelian Platinum would have been a ball ache to forge from |
21:34.33 | Monet | I think platinum might also be soft |
21:34.57 | Monet | "Platinum is more ductile than gold, silver or copper, thus being the most ductile of pure metals, but it is less malleable than gold" |
21:35.03 | Ghelae | I thought that too, but a quick check on Wikipedia claims that platinum is actually slightly harder than iron. |
21:35.19 | Ghelae | But hardness in the technical sense doesn't mean strength or toughness. |
21:35.31 | Xho | That might also go into the forging process' difficulties |
21:36.13 | Xho | It probably went out of fashion around the same time the Iusticiarii came into being |
21:36.30 | Ghelae | Certainly I'm sure a steel sword would be superior to, say, a gold sword. |
21:36.48 | Xho | Which probably means Septimus' sword is either tens of thousands of years old or was forged by the Order of Sol |
21:36.55 | Xho | Or both |
21:37.06 | Monet | Elf - Aurelian Platinum is sooooo 3500 BNA |
21:37.14 | Xho | More like 23500 BNA hur |
21:37.41 | Xho | tbf if Aurelian Platinum was overpowered then Septimus would have carved his way through most stories |
21:38.00 | Ghelae | I guess you could have a magical equivalent of titanium-aluminium alloy for a lighter-and-stronger-than-steel metal. |
21:38.07 | OluapPlayer | instead it was Longinus who did it |
21:38.26 | Xho | Longinus - when ur level 150 and get thrown into a lvl 1 lobby 5000 years in the future |
21:38.29 | Ghelae | Although I have no idea whether such alloys would work for swords. |
21:39.06 | Xho | To be fair on Longinus as well, the threat level during his time was thousands of times greater since Caligaduro wasn't imprisoned |
21:39.57 | Xho | Waking up to a world that is arguably much more peaceful would come as a bit of a shock |
21:40.02 | Xho | Disregarding the fact his culture died 5000 years ago |
21:40.20 | Monet | I don't hin kyou want a sword to be -too- light |
21:40.31 | Monet | You need a bit of weight to get the balance right. |
21:40.57 | Xho | I think I mentioned Pelagrios has an Orichalcum Elf weapon as well but that's not Aurelian Platinum |
21:41.11 | Xho | That's just a normal-craft blade |
21:42.21 | Xho | Longinus' armour is full Aurelian Platinum however because Longinus actually is overpowered as fuck |
21:42.35 | Xho | For 35 NA anyway |
21:44.32 | Xho | I mean he still died from a fall but |
21:45.14 | Xho | Also makes me wonder what the Stormchaser Spear is made out of |
21:45.23 | Xho | "bird metal" |
21:46.03 | OluapPlayer | bird seeds |
21:46.22 | Xho | Nalashtannylor - U WANT SUM FUK *zap* |
21:46.53 | Ghelae | Monet: Ah, that's true. Apparently titanium is used for some knives in used in saltwater for its corrosion resistance, but that's about it. |
21:47.05 | Xho | More than likely just normal rock hewn out of the earth and then arcanized by Nalashtannylor |
21:47.24 | Monet | Sky iron :> |
21:47.30 | Xho | skoi orn |
21:47.51 | Xho | I don't think there is a material that is analogous with storm magic |
21:48.06 | Monet | Not really |
21:48.23 | Monet | There is a metal called thorium but it's more like uranium on steroids. |
21:48.24 | Xho | Most of the cultures that revere Nalashtannylor are primitive, save for the Orayu and Eza'naerani |
21:48.31 | Hachiman | Imperios: How could we make Koldenweltian sin-eaters work |
21:48.43 | OluapPlayer | wut dat |
21:48.45 | Monet | well an element called thorium |
21:49.01 | Hachiman | Someone who relieves the sins of an area or person via absorbing their sins and whatnot into themselves |
21:49.09 | Hachiman | Or something to that effect |
21:49.13 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
21:49.14 | Monet | IIRC its a proposed alternative to uranium in fission reactors but compared to uranium it's rare.. |
21:49.20 | OluapPlayer | Sounds like a light magic priest thing |
21:49.32 | Xho | inb4 exorcists |
21:49.39 | Xho | I wonder how that works |
21:49.54 | Xho | I don't think there's much of a chance of demons inhabiting bodies |
21:49.55 | Hachiman | inb4 Koldenweltian sin-eaters actually eat demons |
21:50.05 | Xho | Arcadian - fucking hell m8 |
21:50.18 | Hachiman | Or rather, absorb their power or something to that effect |
21:50.23 | Imperios | Sounds like something a religious order could do |
21:50.31 | Imperios | Perhaps a Xashanic or Kalisearanic one |
21:50.35 | OluapPlayer | Zran Kar possessed Clotholaire's body, his demon minions can probably do the same |
21:50.39 | Xho | fair |
21:51.18 | Hachiman | Someone who devours or absorbs the essence of demons and ghosts and whatnot and then uses those powers to fight other demons and ghosts and the like maybe |
21:51.22 | Hachiman | Yeah I like that idea |
21:51.32 | OluapPlayer | no john you are the zombies |
21:51.38 | Xho | Actually wait, there was an Eschaton story with the Repossessors and Deathdealers in mortal form |
21:51.44 | Xho | So I guess possession does happen |
21:51.52 | OluapPlayer | Shapeshifting and possession are different things |
21:52.01 | Xho | Hm |
21:52.09 | Xho | Could happen either way I guess |
21:52.20 | Xho | I could imagine Deathdealers using bodies taken to the Soul Market as hosts |
21:52.28 | Hachiman | Makes me wonder how poltergeists and rogue ghosts occur in Koldenwelt if Mortium is in charge of things |
21:52.42 | Xho | spooki |
21:52.55 | OluapPlayer | Mortium doesn't take every soul to the Underworld, some are left behind |
21:53.09 | OluapPlayer | presumably due to their deaths being magical in nature |
21:53.14 | Xho | There are also souls claimed by the Simulacra |
21:53.18 | OluapPlayer | Aesleith's is one example |
21:53.19 | Hachiman | Magical, extremely violent, etc |
21:53.24 | Hachiman | Yeah true |
21:53.43 | Xho | I could imagine Mortium enacting campaigns on the Simulacra for the souls they claim |
21:54.29 | OluapPlayer | We know Mortium and Zran Kar are at eat other's throats on a constant basis |
21:54.33 | OluapPlayer | each* |
21:54.50 | Xho | Mortium - gimme the souls Asv-Aldz - how about gold Mortium - NO I DON'T WANT THAT |
21:55.41 | Xho | It is apparent that Nalashtannylor's champions go to the Underworld rather than Midnight |
21:55.47 | Xho | fuck if any mortal goes there |
21:55.53 | Hachiman | Imperios: What's gonna happen to Kalisearan and Alfgund's babbeh |
21:56.08 | OluapPlayer | it's a half-cat, as in it's a cat with human legs |
21:56.18 | Xho | nani |
21:56.22 | Hachiman | "kill meow" |
21:56.28 | OluapPlayer | kek |
21:56.46 | Imperios | Could be a tiny rock elemental thing |
21:57.05 | Xho | MIKKO 2.0 |
21:57.09 | OluapPlayer | pls no |
21:57.11 | Xho | NOW ACTUALLY WORSE THAN MIKKO 1.0 |
21:57.37 | Hachiman | Mikko 2.0 actually behaves like Hysteria's Mikko |
21:58.01 | OluapPlayer | so like a black pimp |
21:58.01 | Xho | Hachiman: I was thinking earlier that Vultusk might secretly (or openly) be affiliated with the Exosubstratal/Id |
21:58.09 | Xho | I think I've already mentioned this about a million times but I forget |
21:58.20 | Hachiman | I mean, it'd make some sense |
21:58.22 | OluapPlayer | You mention this every time you talk about Vultusk |
21:58.25 | Xho | I forget |
21:58.29 | Xho | hashtag goldfish |
21:58.55 | Xho | I mean a psychotic flesh-warped high priest of physical violence |
21:59.01 | Xho | Has Id written all over it |
21:59.03 | Xho | or him |
21:59.04 | Xho | Or them |
21:59.05 | Xho | I dunno |
21:59.41 | Xho | I should remake him really |
21:59.46 | Xho | Make him properly repulsive |
22:00.19 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/Ft2ZzDR.jpg Capricaeron |
22:01.13 | Xho | wow |
22:03.05 | Hachiman | https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17352276_10155216185294802_5228987505917737584_n.png?oh=9a5d03f7e2fec9a61d6ad5dd6d38ceb4&oe=596E0C10 |
22:03.45 | OluapPlayer | hur |
22:05.52 | drom | Imperios: Game server is lagging af |
22:05.59 | Hachiman | kek |
22:06.26 | OluapPlayer | rip |
22:06.29 | Monet | "what if the Earth was actually dinosaur-shaped?" |
22:07.07 | Hachiman | Does that mean the asteroid was a headshot |
22:07.08 | Xho | end |
22:07.41 | OluapPlayer | or maybe it hit him in the crotch |
22:08.00 | *** join/#sporewiki drom (~drom@unaffiliated/drom) |
22:08.54 | Hachiman | Koldenwelt at some point needs a muscle wizard |
22:09.01 | Hachiman | Because I CAST FIST is too good |
22:09.24 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: excuse u it's the shape of a t-rex |
22:09.46 | OluapPlayer | Eirik is a muscle wizard |
22:09.56 | OluapPlayer | He's just useless |
22:10.00 | Hachiman | non, Eirik is a monk |
22:10.05 | Hachiman | And he ain't useless hur |
22:10.12 | OluapPlayer | >magically-powered punches |
22:10.13 | Hachiman | He just chooses to be selectively useful |
22:10.13 | OluapPlayer | muscle wizard |
22:10.30 | Hachiman | wizards r different 2 monks an clerics tho |
22:11.21 | OluapPlayer | only requirement to be a wizard is to not have a sense of right and wrong |
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22:13.11 | drom | I guess you got my message, Imperios? |
22:13.38 | Hachiman | Xho: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17021664_378156439229892_4028450868504623099_n.jpg?oh=5d72642f66d4fd8c23ec90b2ef7eb7b8&oe=595A002B |
22:13.48 | Hachiman | And OluapPlayer too |
22:14.01 | OluapPlayer | wow |
22:14.18 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (18896c47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.137.108.71) |
22:15.28 | Xho | wow indeed |
22:28.36 | Imperios | Googled for muscle wizard to understand what was going on |
22:28.47 | Imperios | Found out there is a D&D class known as "cancer mage" |
22:29.08 | Imperios | I literally imagine a meme-spouting wizard with a Pepe's head hat |
22:30.08 | OluapPlayer | https://1d4chan.org/images/e/e4/Muscle_wizard.jpg |
22:30.26 | Hachiman | Fucking Cancer Mage |
22:31.53 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Race - Kekistani |
22:35.24 | DrodoEmpire | https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/842653408905445376 |
22:35.59 | DrodoEmpire | Monet |
22:38.02 | Monet | "New Chapter Gamesâ @NewChapterGames 7h |
22:38.03 | Monet | More |
22:38.03 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
22:39.05 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0cd9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.205.157) |
22:40.36 | Monet | I'm retweeting this |
22:40.39 | Monet | "The hotly anticipated game of the year and we get #animations that are making even student animators cry at the shoddy quality." |
22:41.25 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
22:41.51 | Liquid_Ink | Which game? |
22:42.00 | Monet | Mass Effect Andromeda |
22:42.23 | Monet | The fail in the animation and dialogue outcome was the talk of my course today. |
22:42.36 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
22:47.14 | Hachiman | Monet: Shouldn't be too harsh on it, it's difficult developing a game like Mass Effect |
22:47.23 | Hachiman | Of course there are gonna be some problems, it's a big game |
22:47.36 | Hachiman | Would say a Bioware apologist hur |
22:47.41 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
22:47.51 | Monet | I've long been an advocate that making a solid film is actually quite a miracle |
22:48.15 | DrodoEmpire | Nah I get its hard to make AAA game but from what I'm seeing Andromeda's a lazy bomb of a game |
22:48.21 | DrodoEmpire | I could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised |
22:48.49 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, their games in general have seen a drop in quality afaik and a lot of big people have left, causing brain drain |
22:48.53 | Hachiman | Consider that Witcher 3 was made by a small group of independent Slavs |
22:49.05 | Hachiman | Meanwhile, ME:A has an entire workforce dedicated to it |
22:49.09 | Monet | They don't have Bioware's pressures |
22:49.42 | Hachiman | Well no, they do |
22:49.51 | OluapPlayer | Jokes aside, Witcher 3 was very heavily funded |
22:50.01 | Hachiman | Oh it was? |
22:50.08 | OluapPlayer | Yeah the game has a HUGE budget |
22:50.12 | OluapPlayer | had |
22:50.58 | OluapPlayer | It was an AAA game done right |
22:52.07 | OluapPlayer | >The Witcher 3 is the most expensive Polish-made game of all time. The total cost to CD Projekt Red was estimated to be 34 million. |
22:52.15 | Technobliterator | Well, making 3D models is extremely difficult |
22:52.23 | OluapPlayer | Dollars, that is |
22:52.25 | Technobliterator | I would really like to play Witcher 3 |
22:52.30 | OluapPlayer | 34 million tracksuits |
22:52.39 | Hachiman | 34 million squats |
22:52.39 | OluapPlayer | just play it then duh |
22:52.46 | Technobliterator | I wasn't into open world WRPGs at all, but FFXV and Horizon Zero Dawn changed my mind |
22:53.02 | Monet | Technobliterator: I'm currently studying how to make 3D models. The models aren't entirely the problem however. |
22:53.05 | OluapPlayer | Isn't Final Fantasy made by japs tho |
22:53.08 | Technobliterator | It is |
22:53.12 | Technobliterator | But FFXV is very WRPG-like |
22:53.13 | Monet | The models have flaws but the visuals are nice. |
22:53.16 | OluapPlayer | It's not a WRPG then dungus |
22:53.31 | Technobliterator | It's as much a WRPG as Dark Souls is a WRPG :V |
22:53.33 | Monet | The main issue with the models is they're being horribly animated. |
22:53.39 | Technobliterator | And, my issue with models is just how fiddly they are |
22:53.44 | OluapPlayer | Dark Souls isn't a WRPG tho |
22:53.44 | Technobliterator | like, I try rotating a part |
22:53.47 | OluapPlayer | It was mde by japs |
22:53.49 | Technobliterator | and it's stupiud hard to do |
22:53.53 | Hachiman | This is like saying Avatar is an anime |
22:54.02 | Hachiman | It's not, no matter how much it looks like one |
22:54.16 | Monet | Technobliterator: You get used to it, also depends on the quality of the rig. |
22:54.23 | Hachiman | Same thing can be applied to WRPG-esque JRPGs |
22:54.37 | Technobliterator | No, but it is fair to say that after watching Avatar and enjoying it, you may be more likely to go watch an anime |
22:54.42 | Monet | A rig with poorly-matched bones is going to be a pain to animate. |
22:54.46 | Technobliterator | Which is what I was trying to say |
22:54.57 | Cyrannian | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bf/SGCW_Battle_of_Coruanthor_03.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317225426 - For the upcoming battle |
22:54.58 | OluapPlayer | ur favorite game is poop |
22:54.58 | OluapPlayer | POOP |
22:55.21 | Technobliterator | Well, Monet, I'm modelling the Apollo lander, just worked on the rocket's legs (or arms?) and it's stupid hard :P |
22:55.32 | OluapPlayer | Maethoruin is posed like CIA from Batman |
22:56.05 | OluapPlayer | Grand Mandator Vosaetiur, I'm Phaedric Order |
22:56.08 | Monet | Legs |
22:56.47 | Cyrannian | i dunt know who that is |
22:57.15 | Cyrannian | But based on a google image search, he's Littlefinger from Game of Thrones |
22:57.35 | Technobliterator | I love using the software and modelling is fun, but some of the more fiddly stuff is really tricky |
22:58.00 | OluapPlayer | You're a sweet innocent child |
22:58.05 | OluapPlayer | Anyway what's the context of that pic? |
22:58.43 | Monet | I build something with lander legs like the lander in my first year but it might be I'm more accustomed to 3D animation |
22:59.09 | Technobliterator | This is my first semester of doing any animating |
22:59.15 | Technobliterator | It might be my last, I'm not sure |
23:00.04 | Technobliterator | Also, reminder to Monet and Cyrannian about Borealis War paragraphs just before I go shower :V |
23:00.06 | Cyrannian | In a bid to spare his world from destruction, the praesator of Corunathor surrenders to the Empire, but the Republic defenders are all 'how bout no' |
23:02.50 | Xho | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2f/Vultusk2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317230210 Now with 25% extra skeleton |
23:03.26 | Hachiman | fug |
23:04.21 | Monet | Technobliterator: From your perspective animating a character will be hard |
23:04.57 | Technobliterator | Yeah, luckily I don't have to do too much for my assignment |
23:05.09 | Technobliterator | I just need to have the Apollo land, and then have a dude walk out of it |
23:05.54 | Monet | https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--wiFf3r59L4/WMmNfJY-8vI/AAAAAAAAEUw/2GdayAP7WdUxYXypfYpNO0ADJEovkgm5wCLcB/s1600/Adult%2BProgress%2B0101.jpg this is part of the rig for my current project |
23:07.18 | OluapPlayer | it's a super weasel thingy |
23:11.10 | DrodoEmpire | sooper weesil |
23:13.07 | Monet | The considerable degree of dead faces in Andromeda concerns me |
23:19.26 | Cyrannian | That's disappointing, I enjoyed DA:I, so I expected good things from Andromeda |
23:21.10 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Great_Cyrannus_War/Opening_Stages/Battle_of_Coruanthor - Started work on this |
23:26.07 | OluapPlayer | >with Aoirtae Valaeris and Vanikaimar engaging in a cat-and-mouse struggle against the Emperor's Wrath and Lord Echoriax |
23:26.11 | OluapPlayer | Vanikaimar - but i dont want to tho |
23:28.42 | Cyrannian | Aoirtae - shup and offer jerky lines about stuff |