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00:44.44DrodoEmpireI got the z u c c yet again
00:45.14DrodoEmpireCharles_Bot AndroImp https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7CqfqfWsAIAKTX.jpg:large
00:45.37Wormy_semi_hereDrodoEmpire, Monet, Cyrannian:  Iceland (supermarket) just DON GOOFED https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17342514_10158253949235184_2423527618683034164_n.jpg?oh=e045a22490e1eab1e281192ce8f50086&oe=595B7405
00:46.38DrodoEmpirewat
00:47.02Wormy_semi_herethe hashtag lol
00:48.46DrodoEmpireohhh
00:48.48DrodoEmpireOHHHH
00:48.58DrodoEmpireholy shit lmao
00:49.12Wormy_semi_hereTweet hasn't been deleted either
00:49.22Wormy_semi_herehttps://twitter.com/IcelandFoods/status/841963124911669248
00:49.37DrodoEmpireNothing like a good deep anal bum party <.<
00:50.09Wormy_semi_here"Now I know why 'Mums go to Iceland'"
00:50.23DrodoEmpireayy lmao
02:02.51DrodoEmpiretest
02:11.06MonetSo it seems the first few hours of ME: Andromeda have been reviewed
02:11.54MonetIt's not sounding promising
02:13.38DrodoEmpireUh oh....
02:14.17DrodoEmpireWhat're the initial thoughts?
02:14.43MonetFirst contact with Andromeda's aliens is apparently them shooting you on sight.
02:14.58Wormy_semi_herehttp://www.pcgamer.com/the-internet-is-brutally-mocking-mass-effect-andromedas-animations/
02:15.17Wormy_semi_heregobblegobblegobble
02:15.22DrodoEmpireI wheezed when I saw that firstgif
02:15.42DrodoEmpireImpish little strut she has going <.<
02:16.14DrodoEmpireOh my god the animation is all so stiff
02:16.17DrodoEmpireDialogue is
02:16.18DrodoEmpireIs
02:16.31MonetThird one: "I'm firing my gun backwards!"
02:16.32DrodoEmpireWell, my -soul- is fucking tired just hearing it
02:16.34DrodoEmpire^
02:16.50DrodoEmpireThis is the same company that gave us KOTOR and ME2
02:16.52DrodoEmpireNow this >.<
02:17.09MonetWhat the fuck happened...
02:17.25DrodoEmpireI think a lot of people left and the general workplace culture got toxic, too
02:17.28DrodoEmpireThat's what I hear
02:17.58Monet"I am forgiving and I am having fun but also they mention floating rocks four fucking times lol. The rocks float."
02:19.02Monet> In the middle of a firefight  > "Since when do rocks float?          Get your priorities right, lady.
02:19.05Wormy_semi_hereGeneric flosty rocks, ugh
02:19.39DrodoEmpire^
02:19.39Wormy_semi_heregoodnight
02:19.39DrodoEmpire^
02:19.39DrodoEmpireNight!
02:19.57DrodoEmpire"Games from the early 2000's have better animations."
02:21.10DrodoEmpireThis is true-- I'd take the animation style of the earlier Dynasty Warriors games, where it seemed to be based in an alternate-universe Imperial China where everybody develops late-stage Parkinson's by the time they're adults, than Andromeda's anims >.<
02:24.38MonetThe dark age when head-bob was used to represent talking.
02:25.45DrodoEmpirehur yeah
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11:44.52ImpyDroidSo a groupmate sitting next to me has her jeans a bit strained so I can see her panties and asscrack
11:45.01ImpyDroidShould I tell her, or would it be rude?
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17:17.06WormydroidHi
17:17.24TreebeardHello
17:18.30Wormydroidhttps://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/
17:18.34WormydroidPretty interesting
17:34.04ImperiosWormydroid: Linguists have a term for this
17:34.10Imperios"The naive picture of the world"
17:34.28ImperiosIt's not derogatory, it's referring to how people *normally* call and classify things and
17:34.34Imperiosin their daily life
17:35.36ImperiosIt is not made through some conscious effort but simply through general consensus, as opposed to terminology, which is decided consciously by specialists
17:36.54ImperiosSo from that point of view, a distinction has to be made between fish as defined by various professionals and fish, as defined by normal people (and professionals in their daily life probably)
17:40.50Ghelae"Biologists defined by fiat that in cases of ambiguous animal grouping like whales, phylogenetics will be the tiebreaker. This was useful to resolve ambiguity, and it’s worth sticking to as a Schelling point so everyone’s using their words the same way, but it’s kind of arbitrary and mostly based on biologists caring a lot about phylogenetics."
17:42.15ImperiosAs far as I understand the genetic principle sometimes conflicts with traditional taxonomic classification
17:42.34ImperiosFor example by technicality birds have to be considered reptiles
17:42.35ImperiosAnd dinosaurs
17:43.23OluapPlayerThey are, at least by people who do taxonomy
17:44.03ImperiosExactly, but noone would call a bird a dinosaur in their daily life
17:44.07GhelaeBirds are probably not a good example, because a hawk is more similar to a Velociraptor - in nearly every way - than a Velociraptor is to a Triceratops.
17:44.10ImperiosThat's the naive picture of the world
17:44.19ImperiosGhelae: Exactly
17:44.49ImperiosBy rules devised and agreed on by biologists, birds are dinosaurs
17:44.50Ghelae...Yes, that does make it fit your general point even better.
17:44.53ImperiosIn our daily life, they are not
17:45.07OluapPlayerThem being dinosaurs isn't important to our day to day basis
17:45.26ImperiosYep
17:45.33GhelaeAlthough if Velociraptors were around today, people would probably think differently.
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17:45.43GhelaeOn both of your comments.
17:45.44HachimanHi
17:45.46GhelaeHello.
17:45.52HachimanWhat we chatting about?
17:45.54OluapPlayerWell of course not
17:45.59Ghelaehttps://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/
17:46.03ImperiosReligion, linguistics, and dinosaurs
17:46.04ImperiosApparently
17:46.09OluapPlayermostly dinosaurs
17:46.16OluapPlayerrawr dinos awesome
17:46.29Ghelae"A category “fish” containing herring, dragonflies, and asteroids is going to be stupid, but only in the same sense that a Palestinian state centered around Tel Aviv would be stupid – it fails to fulfill any conceivable goals of the person designing it."
17:46.31ImperiosIt started with Wormy posting an article about whales being called fish in the bible
17:46.34Imperios*Bible
17:46.46ImperiosWhich can be considered false, but it was practical for Hebrews at the same
17:46.49Imperiosat the time
17:47.07OluapPlayerIt's factually false, they just didn't know any better
17:47.12ImperiosThe same way it is practical for us to divide birds and reptiles, despite the fact that birds are considered reptiles by taxonomists
17:47.40ImperiosOluapPlayer: Here's my point, we have several definitions of every word: the naive one and the various professional ones
17:47.40GhelaeThe point of the article is that it's not false; the Hebrew word that we translate as "fish" simply doesn't mean what we mean by "fish".
17:48.11OluapPlayerThis reminds me of one unrelated thing which bothers me
17:48.15GhelaeThey didn't know better, yes, but even if they did they might not care.
17:48.18ImperiosIn our daily life we define "dinosaurs" as "these cool ancient reptiles"
17:48.48ImperiosThe scientific definition is "group of genetically related animals which included these cool ancient reptiles and these feathery things which fly in the sky today
17:48.54OluapPlayerPeople who are against the notion of feathered theropod dinosaurs and claim that because these apparently have feathers, so did ALL dinosaurs
17:48.56Imperiosincludes even
17:49.05OluapPlayerLike, a feathered triceratops
17:49.06ImperiosAs for raptors living today
17:49.11OluapPlayerThat's not a fucking thing that happened hur
17:49.31ImperiosVelociraptors had feathers and birds and raptors have a roughly similar body type, so if raptors lived today, we would probably think of them as large flightless beakless birds
17:49.40HachimanBut
17:49.50HachimanTriceratops did have feathers
17:49.53HachimanIt must have done
17:50.09OluapPlayerTriceratops weren't theropods
17:50.18HachimanIf the theropods had feathers, why not triceratops
17:50.18ImperiosTriceratops - bitch I am fabulous
17:50.32ImperiosThere is no evidence that they did, and they did not necessarily need them
17:50.40OluapPlayerI can't tell if you're joking or not, I seriously hope you are
17:50.56HachimanI am hur
17:50.57ImperiosA triceratops would not need to conserve heat like a raptor would
17:51.02ImperiosIt's large and not as active
17:51.05ImperiosHm
17:51.13ImperiosDid tyrannosauri have feathers doe
17:51.17OluapPlayerYes
17:51.18HachimanTheropods so yes
17:51.28ImperiosSo now it makes sense
17:52.10ImperiosVery active = lots of heat energy needed
17:52.22ImperiosNot as large = body does not conserve heat as easily
17:52.35ImperiosErgo you need special covering to help conserve it
17:52.52OluapPlayerI don't imagine a raptor would be considered a bird in the current day however, since they had reptilian heads with teeth which birds lack
17:53.04ImperiosHm
17:53.07ImperiosThat depends on the scenario
17:53.39HachimanWell
17:53.43HachimanSome birds have teeth
17:53.51HachimanSuch as penguins
17:54.00OluapPlayerIt's not a common trait
17:54.19OluapPlayerI imagine people would consider them a feathered reptile rather than a toothed bird, they're closer to the former in description
17:54.55OluapPlayerWe'd just expand on the idea that birds aren't the only creatures with feathers
17:55.02OluapPlayerbees have fur, so do we, we're not bees
17:55.04OluapPlayeror at least i hope not
17:55.05OluapPlayerBEES
17:55.23Hachiman>so do we
17:55.25ImperiosSo is it "we time travelled to the past and brought raptors with us" or "alternative history where raptors survived to the modern day"
17:55.29HachimanSince when did humans have fur hur
17:55.34ImperiosHeadfur
17:55.35ImperiosOr something
17:55.35OluapPlayerWhat is hair
17:55.39HachimanNot fur
17:55.48OluapPlayerLiterally how
17:56.13Imperios^ See, the perfidy of definitions
17:56.29ImperiosAlso the perfidy of Hachi shitposting
17:56.41HachimanOkay I'm a dumbass, fur and ass are literally chemically indistinguishable
17:56.42OluapPlayer"Fur is used in reference to the hair of non-human mammals"
17:56.47Hachiman*hair
17:56.52HachimanDunno how ass ended up in there
17:57.03OluapPlayerfur is chemically indistinguishable from SHIT
17:57.40OluapPlayerAnyway I'll leave the intellectual talk to the intellectuals and go back to my weeb videogames
17:57.45Hachimannon
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17:58.56WormydroidThat article led me to discover this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton
17:59.19ImperiosWormydroid: Did you get  my messages?
17:59.32ImperiosAbout the naive picture of the world
17:59.40WormydroidYes
18:00.52WormydroidTest
18:19.54TechnobliteratorMass Effect Andromeda is out tomorrow :o
18:20.03TechnobliteratorI'm not going to get on launch, but I probably will at some point this year
18:33.41OluapPlayerI'll take as you're looking forward to it so I'm not gonna comment
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18:40.37OluapPlayerOpen game -> it doesn't load -> Steam says it's open
18:40.42OluapPlayerit's gonna be one of those then
18:40.43OluapPlayerHi
18:41.19TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, not for any reason other than "it's a new Mass Effect game"
18:41.26Xhohi
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18:41.29TechnobliteratorI've seen the animations and they look terrible
18:41.37Technobliteratorand I am extremely skeptical
18:41.39Wormy_hi
18:41.39Technobliteratorhi wormy and xho
18:41.50OluapPlayerWhy would you still get it if you know it's gonna be hot garbage?
18:42.24TechnobliteratorIf it's a series I like, I normally get the new title just to hate on it
18:42.44OluapPlayerThat makes no sense, you're supporting it by doing that
18:42.54OluapPlayeryall wonky
18:43.06XhoThat makes less sense than
18:43.13XhoHell I've never seen anything so illogical
18:43.15Wormy_A review on bad reviews https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/03/16/this-is-why-its-a-bad-idea-for-games-like-mass-effect-andromeda-to-have-piecemeal-embargoes/#53646433690e
18:43.47XhoWait are they saying ME: Andromeda has bad reviews
18:43.57TechnobliteratorIt's basically because it's a series I really like, so I buy the new installment to see if there are any redeeming qualities, and mostly to say what things suck
18:44.15TechnobliteratorI do think the combat they've showed off and some things are super interesting, but I'm leaning towards thinking it'll probably be a mess
18:44.21OluapPlayerAndromeda is currently the laughing stock of the internet
18:44.32TechnobliteratorBecause a) animations look horrible, b) it's EA, and c) they didn't release anything to reviewers yet
18:45.13Wormy_a) I'll accept is correect, from what I've seen.  But most of the reviews may be unrepresentative
18:45.22XhoOh dear
18:45.41XhoMaybe there should be an image saying "Hype Kills"
18:45.51XhoBut then again I never saw the hype for Andromeda
18:45.59TechnobliteratorI definitely do not regret getting Horizon Zero Dawn first, though
18:46.06TechnobliteratorHorizon Zero Dawn is easily the best game I've played in years
18:47.52OluapPlayerall I can say about Andromeda is
18:47.54OluapPlayersome BODY ONCE TOLD ME
18:48.01Technobliterator: |
18:48.10Xhoits all ogre now
18:49.10Wormy_its all medi-ogre
18:49.16HachimanFucking kek
18:49.17HachimanHi btw
18:49.22Xhoohai
18:49.24Wormy_Hello
18:49.31XhoWormy gets best comment of the day
18:49.40XhoI do think games are becoming increasingly mediocre though
18:49.50HachimanThe Witcher thi
18:49.52Hachimantho*
18:50.05XhoHaven't played any of the Witchers past 1 but I'll take your word for it
18:50.20XhoI might get back into it sooner or later but I found it too slow paced for my liking
18:50.36OluapPlayerThere's been quite a number of good games lately, but the bad ones are obviously gonna be more notorious
18:50.40Wormy_I was discussing with someone how game mechanics in some of the older titles reached a level of complexity and diversity unrivalled in modern games, which go for graphics or network features.
18:51.09HachimanHopefully Kojima's Death Stranding is gonna be good
18:51.20XhoKojima is Kojima so we'd hope so
18:51.30Wormy_Like, even 90's games could be as complex of modern game mechanics even though they look awful
18:51.33HachimanKojima is also responsible for MGS2 though
18:51.35TechnobliteratorWe literally know nothing about Death Stranding
18:51.41TechnobliteratorAnd yes, he is responsible for MGS2 :|
18:51.46XhoAlso I want to mention that I will be inactive next week
18:51.56HachimanGOOD
18:52.07Xhoyeh
18:52.09OluapPlayerI'm pretty sure people enjoy MGS2
18:52.14TechnobliteratorHowever, MGS3 is the best game of all time
18:52.16XhoI'll be 1,500 miles away from home doing fuck all lol
18:52.16Hachiman>enjoying MGS2
18:52.17OluapPlayeryou're just salty cause you got bamboozled by raiden
18:52.18Hachimanwhat a thrill
18:52.25OluapPlayerThat's 3 you fit
18:52.26Technobliteratorand MGSV comes fairly close to it, but failed because Konami
18:52.32OluapPlayergit even
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18:53.06Wormy_Hi
18:53.09HachimanXho: Where you gonna be at
18:53.21Technobliteratorhihi Cyrannian
18:53.21Cyrannian|SWTORHappy St. Patrick's Day errbody
18:53.30TechnobliteratorHappy St. Patrick's Day :o
18:53.45TechnobliteratorAlso, I don't know if I've told you, but I need you for 2 paragraphs on the Borealis War when you get time
18:53.57Wormy_Happy St. Patrick's.  I'm wearing green!
18:54.02OluapPlayerHappy leprechaun day
18:54.10OluapPlayerAnyway gonna go play Nier Automata now
18:54.21Wormy_Will likely avoid drinking out because it could be rowdy as fuk
18:54.25HachimanOluapPlayer: do not fist android girls
18:54.32HachimanPlaying, rather
18:55.29TechnobliteratorIs Nier Automata any good>
18:55.30Technobliterator?
18:55.34HachimanApparently so
18:55.44HachimanI haven't played it; I bought it for Oluap so he could tell me
18:55.50HachimanThe main character is fucking gorgeous though
18:56.13XhoSpain
18:57.47XhoHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AJa-shonar qt catboi is not qt catboi
18:58.07HachimanHe has a Splinter beard
18:58.22Xhomeow
18:58.28HachimanLooks good tho
18:58.30Wormy_What part of Spain?
18:58.47Hachiman"2.97 m (9'9")"
18:58.51Hachiman>9'9
18:59.04Hachimanis dis a nine lives reference or sumfin
18:59.18XhoValencia
18:59.23XhoHachiman: It is ow
18:59.24Xhonow
18:59.28XhoOr is it
18:59.29Cyrannian|SWTORLucky xho is lucky
18:59.29Wormy_Nice
18:59.32XhoNINE FACED GOD
18:59.38Wormy_I went to Seville and Valencia
19:00.32Wormy_Seville was highly sophisticated (except for animal rights) that I felt coming back to the UK made it look barbarous
19:00.52Xhoheh
19:01.05Wormy_Manchester at night, not a good place to be
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19:01.24OluapPlayerWell, it crashed my computer
19:01.31OluapPlayerGuess I won't be playing after all
19:01.31HachimanFuck
19:01.32Xhoheck
19:01.41HachimanHow'd it crash?
19:01.57OluapPlayerI tried to start the game
19:02.03OluapPlayerIt froze and crashed everything
19:02.10HachimanFucking hell
19:02.19HachimanMight have been a case of bad luck?
19:02.40OluapPlayerI don't know, but I'm not feeling like trying again right now
19:04.12ImperiosWormy_ Hachiman: Wow, apparently some peasants in northern Russia practiced animal sacrifice up to the 20th century
19:04.27HachimanDoesn't surprise me
19:04.34ImperiosThey would immolate goats as a sacrifice to Prophet Elijah
19:04.34Wormy_Doesn't surprise me too much
19:04.55ImperiosDo you imply that Russians are uncivilised brutes hur
19:04.59HachimanYes
19:05.07ImperiosI mean this is not necessarily false
19:05.10OluapPlayeryes            yall a bunch of bear-wresting savages wearing nike shoes
19:05.28HachimanAfter hearing about what went on in the gulags and how escapees would practice cannibalism
19:05.58Wormy_It doesn't surprise me because even Western Europeans carried and carry out strange rituals from the savage dark ages, often involving animals.
19:06.54ImperiosYes because people, frequently of criminal background, starved and tortured by a totalitarian regime, in a life and death situation, can totally represent the entire multiethnic population of one of the most populous countries in the world
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19:07.11ImperiosIt's that simple
19:07.19OluapPlayerwow it's not like stereotypes are a thing
19:07.23OluapPlayerand they're often wrong
19:07.37Wormy_Impy: Russians are big and scary to us
19:07.43ImperiosThat was in response to Hachi
19:08.19HachimanI mean
19:08.23Wormy_Impy: I mean consider the world cup, the Russian Ultras going around picking fights with anyone wearing red and white
19:08.29HachimanYour reasoning isn't wrong
19:09.14CyrannianPoor goats doe
19:09.32HachimanI'm kidding by the way; I'm not surprised by eastern Russian animal mutilation stuff since I've generally come to accept that populations of people across the world still practice barbarism and whatnot
19:09.47HachimanLike Middle Eastern female genital mutilation
19:10.15Wormy_I remember hearing that mothers would even try to eat their children during the Siege of Leningrad
19:10.20ImperiosGood
19:10.31Wormy_It may even be a more general human thing in times of deep desperation
19:10.36ImperiosWormy_: Oooh we were told about that
19:10.54OluapPlayerIt was in the news recently that a woman cut off her son's dick because it was "too big for his age"
19:11.01HachimanWhat the fuck
19:11.02OluapPlayerGranted that's not cultural and more insanity-based
19:11.09Wormy_damn
19:11.27ImperiosA militia group entered a house and smelled something boiling; the family explained they were farming a soup
19:11.46ImperiosThe militia entered the house and saw a human finger boiling in the cauldron
19:12.48Cyrannian"Whoops, I was wondering where I dropped that"
19:12.58HachimanWhy though?
19:13.09OluapPlayercause they ran out of food
19:13.13OluapPlayerand had to resort to cannibalism
19:13.57ImperiosHachiman: On the other hand, they ate the goat afterwards, so animal sacrifice was hardly exceedingly cruel or needless here
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19:14.17OluapPlayeriirc Leningrad was sieged by the nazis and their strategy was basically to surround the city and wait until the populace starved the death
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19:14.29WormydroidThere are stories of cannibalism in the North Korean camps too
19:14.37ImperiosOluapPlayer: That was the intention
19:14.38ImperiosPlus bombing
19:14.48HachimanAh
19:14.57HachimanI'm sick so excuse me for being a dumbass hur
19:15.06OluapPlayerur a dumbass all the time tho
19:15.14Hachimanyeh dats y im friends wiv u u fukr
19:15.17WormydroidThis man found three skulls of children in a couldron cooked up by several people
19:15.23ImperiosThe citizens actually painted the landmarks grey so they would not be noticed by German pilots
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19:15.57HachimanSounds like grounds for witchcraft
19:16.02Wormy__Bad
19:16.04WormydroidInternet
19:16.33HachimanI feel like I should do more to show how horrible witches actually are in Koldenwelt
19:16.48Hachimanthe only witches we hav r qt student grill an old birb
19:17.22OluapPlayerClotho - i can do horrible things to hachi when he makes me mad
19:17.42ImperiosThis is kind of weird if you think about it
19:18.02Imperioshttps://cont.ws/uploads/posts/75865.jpg "Let's paint it grey to hide it"
19:18.24HachimanLike, witches and hags and the like would steal babies and children, kill them, and then crush and grind their bodies to make flying ointment
19:18.58OluapPlayerI'm sure there are evil witches around, but the word witch itself doesn't automatically mean evil baby-eating hag as far as the fantasyverse goes
19:19.06Wormy_I'm reminded of that web comic about the possessed hat stealing children to eat them so she could grow a new body.
19:19.07OluapPlayerThere are good and bad practitioners of all kinds of magic
19:19.10CyrannianI made some space witches a while ago, but I've rarely used them
19:19.12MonetHasn't the Sea Witch implied she's done peculiar stuff.
19:19.33OluapPlayerThe Sea Witch was mostly a prankster
19:19.45OluapPlayerThough she's made clear her people has no quarrel with eating other sapients
19:19.57MonetShe strikes me as a woman that likes to cook with various animal parts in her spare time.
19:20.04OluapPlayerShe does
19:20.22HachimanWormy_: I remember that, such a good comic too
19:20.34HachimanThe story was actually strangely compelling and awesome hur
19:20.50Wormy_Yeah
19:21.03HachimanAnd yeah, it seems the Sea Witch's strangeness comes more out of her race than her occupation
19:21.07MonetCyrannian: Doesn't help as this is Koldenwelt.
19:21.13HachimanAnd her own cranky disposition
19:21.29OluapPlayerMostly her own crankiness
19:21.36OluapPlayerHer people are good-natured overall
19:21.45CyrannianWasn't trying to help, I was just mentioning it hur
19:21.56OluapPlayerwow thx u shite
19:22.15HachimanI envision that evil witches in the Fantasyverse are probably powerful wild spellcasters and the like
19:22.40HachimanAnd consort with the likes of the darker Simulacra and / or Isiris' darker aspects
19:23.05Wormy_I still need to finsh my not!-withfinder General story
19:23.31ImperiosActually yes
19:23.45ImperiosI wonder what kind of sacrificial magic is practiced on Koldenwelt
19:23.46OluapPlayerMortium - no you may not have my boner
19:24.01ImperiosI imagine that Freelanders who worship Zran Kar can have some sort of blood magic derived from their sacrifices
19:24.22HachimanCrux worshipers practice cannibalism outright I imagine
19:24.30ImperiosYeah but it's not for magical power
19:24.36OluapPlayerCrux worshipers barely know they're people hur
19:24.37ImperiosThey do not eat people FOR THE GLORY OF CRUX
19:26.07HachimanI imagine that acts of mass cannibalism and whatnot are probably used for summoning rituals for Crux's Idkin or just to perpetuate Id magic in the area
19:26.27HachimanMass cannibalism, rape, other forms of violence and the like
19:26.35XhoHachiman: wut about taihadrae for being a witch
19:26.37OluapPlayerVestige - that's not what i meant when i said "let's feast"
19:27.08Hachimanwut bout taihadrae
19:27.09ImperiosHachiman: Speaking of that animal sacrifice thing, apparently some people revived that festival in the modern day
19:27.12ImperiosExcept with clay goats
19:27.19XhoTalking about morally questionable witches
19:27.31HachimanI can imagine Taihadrae kinda fitting the bill for a witch
19:27.35TechnobliteratorCyrannian, not sure if you saw this message, but I need you for 2-3 paragraphs for the Borealis War when you get a chanc
19:27.36Technobliteratore
19:27.39HachimanExcept she doesn't do disgusting witch stuff beyond necromancy
19:27.57Xhowell she's an elven woman of value
19:27.58Xhoor something
19:28.22XhoOne could make a Skaurovirn witch to fit the bill but I don't feel like doing that
19:28.25CyrannianTechnobliterator: Ah, didn't know that was directed at me. What would you like me to write?
19:29.07HachimanXho: Witches are also supposed to be able to go between looking like hags and beautiful women, so good luck with a Skaurovirn doing dat shit
19:29.21TechnobliteratorBasically, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_2#The_Gigaquadrant.27s_Response is just where we have your guys react to the War Economy and how they're going to avoid it/take advantage of it
19:29.47MonetGood news is I might be able to squeeze in some time tonight.
19:29.52TechnobliteratorJust needs 2-3 paragraphs from every extragalactic in the war (although Ghel's section is below)
19:29.57Technobliteratoroh, nice :o
19:30.01XhoHachiman: Skaurovirn to WTF
19:30.18XhoI don't exactly know what Skaurovirn women are meant to look like
19:30.31HachimanSkaurovirn
19:30.33XhoSkaurovirn men are gaunt and gargoyle like
19:30.38Xhowell fucking done hachi 10/10
19:31.10HachimanSkaurovirn women are gaunt and gargoyle-like except they have massive tits
19:31.13Hachimanc
19:31.36Xho>tfw flat chested
19:31.37OluapPlayerprojectile vomit/10
19:31.42Xhoand that
19:32.04CyrannianRite, so the Empire's response? Or the Cognatus? I'm not sure either had much involvement in this part of the war.
19:32.16XhoThere might be a hint of beauty behind the women but mostly veiled by the fact that they're demonic in appearance
19:32.34OluapPlayerYou're in the war as the Civitas, so presumably you write their response to it
19:33.27HachimanCould be some sorta deal like with Frankenstein; he had all the features of a handsome or beautiful man, but instead of being actually attractive, he looked more like a mockery or something
19:33.32Cyranniandey not extragalactics
19:33.46OluapPlayerIn that case you don't write anything hur
19:34.19HachimanCould be that Skaurovirn women have features which should make them beautiful but only serves to sorta make them look more unnerving or discomforting
19:34.23OluapPlayerWhat you can do is write NCR stuff in the Ancient Three war
19:34.50HachimanAlso about to kick myself for saying Frankenstein and not Frankenstein's monster
19:35.56TechnobliteratorWell, you could write about the Empire's response if they've been watching Borealis up til this point? Otherwise yeah, you might not have to add a response after all
19:35.57Technobliteratorwhoops
19:36.35XhoHachiman: Makes sense
19:36.37OluapPlayerActually, you can write as the Empire since they participated in the Heleanorian sub-plot
19:36.38CyrannianI'll pop out a page for Nils Agmaer
19:37.50Technobliteratoroh yeah
19:38.37CyrannianI'm not sure we established what the Empire was doing after that plot, apart from twirling their lizard moustaches
19:39.54OluapPlayerNope, we didn't
19:46.02Wormy_Cyrannian: http://imgur.com/gallery/cWnwi
19:47.00Tek0516O.o
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19:50.01TreebeardHello
20:02.14CyrannianWormy_: lol
20:02.39Monethttps://www.quora.com/What-concessions-to-scientific-accuracy-did-The-Martian-make-and-why/answer/Andy-Weir?srid=uDTFS this was intriguing
20:04.00OluapPlayerHachiman Monet Imperios: https://i.imgur.com/TbysjTm.jpg
20:04.05Wormy_That, and perchlorates in much of the soil left untreated would give potatoes a heard time growing
20:04.15Wormy_*hard
20:04.45Hachimandat chaos space babe
20:04.58MonetOlaupPlayer: THat seems like a very Guardsman-like Raider
20:05.08HachimanTraitor Guardsmen
20:05.18MonetYeah
20:05.22Wormy_oh dear the roof of my mouth has started feeling tickly
20:05.33Wormy_That's always the sign
20:06.01MonetAlthough that might bring the question of how a group of traitor guardsemn were entrusted with a Chaos Land Raider.
20:06.02Tek0516Wormy_: This code has given me a few "But why" moments, now from several "if(boolean == true)" type situations. >.>
20:06.21OluapPlayerPrevious owners were eaten by daemons
20:07.13Wormy_agh booleans
20:07.26MonetGuardsmen - Thank the Chaos Gods for this fortune! *paints a sexy Berseker and write "blam-a-lam" on the Lascannons*
20:07.44OluapPlayerSlaanesh - [thumbs up with 3 tentacles]
20:08.25MonetBonus points for making fun of Khorne.
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20:12.21dromImperios: Something tells me you are the Priest helping me grinding this BW instance
20:12.33ImperiosLolno
20:13.21dromWell he asked me if I knew someone who was lv 60 and wish to do BW
20:13.53TechnobliteratorImperios, Borealis War reminder
20:13.54Technobliterator:V
20:13.57dromAnd I said no
20:13.58Imperiosy
20:14.04ImperiosI just need to write a few sentences
20:14.32ImperiosWait
20:14.33ImperiosBW
20:14.43ImperiosTechnobliterator: So a few sentences of reactions right?
20:14.53OluapPlayerYes
20:15.01OluapPlayerDescribe what the Divinarium thinks of the War Economy
20:15.11CyrannianOluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/75/AgmaerProfile.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317201456 - Heleanorian dood
20:15.24OluapPlayernito
20:15.28TechnobliteratorYup
20:15.44Technobliteratorand if they want to take advantage of it or just give up hope on the galaxy or whatever
20:33.16OluapPlayerXho: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/233/386/f4e.png
20:33.33Xhohoh
20:33.40XhoMan that's some bad animation
20:33.55OluapPlayerME: Andromeda, actually ME as written by RubberFruit
20:43.12TechnobliteratorYeah, the animation and the character models are pretty poor
20:43.27TechnobliteratorSo far it's the only criticism I've heard, though
20:43.51HachimanThe AI is also bad
20:43.59MonetAnd the dialogue.
20:44.02TechnobliteratorI haven't heard about that
20:44.04HachimanAnd the dialogue
20:44.06OluapPlayerAnd the writing
20:44.15TechnobliteratorWell, dialogue and writing are basically the same thing
20:44.16HachimanThere are videos showing the companions and enemies acting retarded and not following or tracking the player
20:44.22HachimanNo they're not?
20:44.26MonetFirst planet you visit has floating rocks, first contact amounts to random aliens shooting you on sight
20:44.36Technobliteratoroh
20:44.41TechnobliteratorI thought you meant dialogue was badly written
20:44.46HachimanIt is
20:44.54Technobliteratorbut it turns out everything is badly written
20:44.58OluapPlayerAll the writing is dogshit, dialog included
20:44.59HachimanYes
20:45.00Monet"Sorry, my face is tired" *dead expression*
20:45.10TechnobliteratorI mean
20:45.17OluapPlayer"He's dead" *goofy smile*
20:45.22Technobliteratorit strikes me as another game that EA released too early
20:45.23Hachiman"My father died" *grin*
20:45.44Technobliteratorit's a shame because I really liked the combat and some of the stuff I saw
20:45.46MonetIt seems like they tried to separate the expressions and the dialogue.
20:45.51Technobliteratorbut I definitely won't get it on release
20:45.59HachimanDon't get it at all
20:46.01OluapPlayerand don't get me started on the asari
20:46.03HachimanDon't support this hur
20:46.05Technobliteratorno, I will get it
20:46.06Technobliteratorto hate on it
20:46.07Technobliterator:V
20:46.09HachimanYeah the asari look like ogres now
20:46.12OluapPlayerraccoon-eyed shrek-faced asari
20:46.16OluapPlayersomeBODY
20:46.24MonetWho fires a gun backwards
20:46.37OluapPlayeryes, how do you fuck up this badly
20:46.55MonetTechnobliterator: First part will be free on Origin Access
20:47.21TechnobliteratorI am very glad I didn't preorder now, though
20:47.35TechnobliteratorI might jsut spend money on Crash Bandicoot N-Sane Trilogy instead
20:48.31Xho<PROTECTED>
20:48.44Technobliteratorwhen are the reviews releasing
20:48.47OluapPlayerWhy would you subject yourself to /r9k/?
20:48.48TechnobliteratorI expect 7/10
20:48.56OluapPlayerYou have no one to blame but yourself
20:49.13XhoGood point
20:49.16Xhorollin out
20:49.21MonetTechnobliterator: For Crash or MEA?
20:49.24TechnobliteratorMEA
20:49.34TechnobliteratorThough, I don't expect Crash's reviews to be that high, given how it's an old game
20:49.40MonetSOme journalists are already publishing first impressions.
20:49.54Technobliteratoroh?
20:50.24MonetRPS has a nice fat juicy account of the team's first several hours.
20:52.53Cyrannianhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e7/SGCW_Battle_of_Coruanthor.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317205043 - big city pew pew
20:53.30Technobliterator:o
20:53.34Technobliteratorthat picture looks amazing
20:53.50OluapPlayerbreddy gud
20:54.00OluapPlayerHappening dangerously close to the surface
20:54.25CyrannianAye, the battle reaches from the lowest streets to upper orbit
20:54.52MonetI will actually agree here.
20:55.09MonetA lot of those lower starships could very easily fly into buildings I think.
20:56.18TreebeardEven if the New Republic wins, a lot of buildings are going to be flattened by the debris.
20:56.56MonetYou could win the battle but still lose the city.
20:57.11CyrannianYes, that planet has awful luck, it was devastated by the Neraida during this battle: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neraida_War/Battle_of_Coruanthor
20:57.29CyrannianIf you look at the bottom of the image, you can see the top of a crashed destroyer
20:58.17MonetYeah...
20:58.45MonetEvery block it lands on and the blocks around it might be toast.
20:59.02MonetAirliner crashes in urban areas are works case scenarios.
20:59.05Monetworst*
20:59.11dromBut yeah. Imperios. I ain't lying. I am indeed level 60 now.
21:00.39HachimanLotsa dead folk
21:01.47MonetI tink it might be fairer to say that after this battle that city would be New Orleans after Katrina.
21:03.13dromIf ya wonder how that Blackwing Lair grind went
21:03.35dromThe priest only needed these elementinum bars and I got rest of the loot
21:03.54dromThen they taught me how to get heirlooms and how to use them. Then invited me to their guild.
21:03.59dromThat is real nice
21:04.46Imperiosdrom: Let's go to Outland together senpai~
21:08.50dromOne moment as I go and upgrade my riding expertise
21:09.03HachimanXho OluapPlayer: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17362469_1008311965968651_1522521741224113652_n.jpg?oh=0ee948c14522361f61e75acdc9a13608&oe=596E9F3C
21:09.29Xhofucking hell
21:09.36OluapPlayerthings that never happened, part one
21:09.45Xhoand that
21:09.48XhoBut still
21:11.59OluapPlayerMonet: https://www.twitch.tv/monolithlive they're talking about Shadow of War right now
21:12.34XhoHachiman: What exactly happens to anti-magic/adamantine in the presence of sun/void magic
21:12.51HachimanIt works
21:13.00XhoWell void magic is a given since it's two anti-magics colliding
21:13.23HachimanAdamantine I like to imagine is strong enough to resist most effects of Sun magic
21:13.35OluapPlayerThere's no reason for any kind of Source magic to not be affected by adamantine & otehrs
21:13.52XhoOrichalcum Elf - AURAREL VULT           wait what
21:15.35XhoI could imagine an Orichalcum Elf and Adamantine Elf in combat would reduce it from a demigod swordfight to just a regular swordfight
21:15.44HachimanAye
21:15.47XhoMany ??? from both sides
21:16.20HachimanThis is why Adamantine Elves had to get fucked over
21:16.34HachimanAnd why I write adamantine as being super rare in Koldenwelt hur
21:16.45XhoI think all the op god races got their comeuppance
21:17.11HachimanAdamantines weren't an OP god race hur
21:17.20Xhoadamantine is pretty fucking powerful tho
21:17.37HachimanOnly in the presence of magic
21:17.45XhoOrichalcum Elves - not cool
21:17.55HachimanIt was their schtick that they wanted to free Koldenwelt from the likes of gods and whatnot
21:17.56XhoOrichalcum Elves had magic coming out of the wazoo
21:18.22XhoWhat exactly destroyed them in the end
21:18.28XhoI would know IF THEY HAD A PAGE
21:18.31XhoYOU LAZY BASTARD
21:18.32OluapPlayerIsiris - well aint you a bunch of little shits
21:18.40HachimanA combination of other elves, the Colossi, the Simulacra, etc
21:18.46MonetI recall agreeing with Xho that Orocathrheim might have some of the last accessible Adamantine veinsleft.
21:18.59XhoI remember that vaguely
21:19.03OluapPlayerHachi owns adamantine tho, not Xho
21:19.08HachimanThey basically pissed everyone off and got their shit wrecked for it
21:19.17MonetThis was before Hachi took over I think
21:19.39OluapPlayerI don't remember adamantine existing in the setting before Hachi introduced it
21:20.16XhoI'm writing up on Aurelian Platinum hence the questions
21:20.23XhoI need to figure out weaknesses for it
21:20.29XhoWhich is anti-magic and void magic sofar
21:20.30Xhoso far
21:20.41MonetWe had the adamantine age that was conceived long ago, named after said metal when it was dominant.
21:20.44XhoThat being said it can repel void magic although with a difficulty
21:21.07OluapPlayerIt had the name, but the metal itself wasn't present
21:21.08MonetThis was before you two effectively resculpted the metaphysical side of fantasyverse.
21:21.32XhoIt loses its imperishable nature when coming into contact with void magic
21:21.43MonetSo at the time it was liek a cheeper less OP Oriacalcum
21:21.59OluapPlayerThere was never any orichalcum metal either
21:22.04OluapPlayerThere still isn't
21:22.07XhoI had the idea of toning down as there were multiple imperfect weapons made from Aurelian Platinum which looked nice but didn't do the job
21:22.28HachimanXho: That or they had very specific, niche uses
21:22.29XhoMost of the proper weapons were destroyed by the Shiarchon
21:22.41OluapPlayerGranted, orichalcum is technically just an old word for bronze
21:22.51MonetSo what the fuck were the namings of the Oriacalcum age or the Adamantine Age?
21:22.58HachimanRule of cool
21:23.03OluapPlayerMore or less
21:23.08Xhoyup
21:23.13HachimanWe thought they sounded good so we went with it
21:23.25GhelaeThey were named after the metals, but the metals hadn't then been properly described in the context of the fantasyverse.
21:23.54XhoThere's only one Aurelian Platinum weapon mentioned in the Fantasyverse and that's Septimus' sword
21:24.06HachimanI don't like this idea that metals are intrinsically more powerful; adamantine effectively nullifies strong magic in its presence, sure, but I don't envision it being naturally much more resistant than average good-quality steel
21:25.13MonetIt also somewhat flies in the face of basic metallurgy.
21:25.17OluapPlayerI can agree with that since OP things are dumb
21:26.00XhoI think I had the idea that modern Shiarchon craft was folded metal
21:26.05XhoOr that was Wormy actually
21:26.06MonetWhat makes steel so damn awesome is it's an alloy. It's iron that has been enhanced by the addition of extra components.
21:27.03HachimanLike, the thing is, if a metal or element is so damn resistant that it absorbs damage and whatever - how is it supposed to be mined?
21:27.07HachimanOr worked with?
21:27.14OluapPlayervery carefully
21:27.19MonetThat is one of the things about invincible raw metal
21:27.31MonetIf you can't affect it ,you can't shape it.
21:28.16XhoI did mention the Orichalcum Elves forged their Aurelian Platinum weapons by carving it with sun magic but it was extremely difficult regardless
21:28.26XhoHence why most of the surviving weapons are comparably shit
21:28.41XhoPretty but not very useful
21:29.03XhoMaybe as an envelope opener or a butter knife
21:29.34MonetI think I wrote that even the most common draonoggr is capable of manipulating the source into a projection of fire from the mouth.
21:30.11XhoAurelian Platinum was really only useful to repel void creatures or dark magic creatures
21:30.12OluapPlayerthat's just a fancy way of saying they have fire breath
21:30.21XhoOther than that it was just fancy weapons
21:30.51MonetThey use magic ot make fire breath               sue me
21:31.08OluapPlayerSo does every other fire breather hur
21:31.26MonetAlthough I guess a creative bonus is more proficient Drao could do special things with their breath
21:31.47HachimanLike warm blow jobs
21:32.03Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source#Aurelian_Platinum Not as op as it sounds, just very effective against dark things
21:32.06MonetDro Magi/sorcerors could breathe jets that could melt steel for instance
21:32.26OluapPlayerHachiman: Kalcedia - watch dis magic trick
21:32.32MonetOr it could be a quality a number of mountain ords develop
21:32.41Monetlords*
21:33.06XhoBut as far as I can gather Aurelian Platinum isn't as practical to use as most metals
21:33.08HachimanI must wonder how often magic is used in sex in Koldenwelt, or how magic ties into people's personal lives outside of combat
21:33.08XhoPlatinum is heavy
21:33.16OluapPlayerHamoins - much
21:33.29XhoNor is by carving it with sun magic a very effective way to make a weapon
21:33.55HachimanI can just imagine that some elven nations have strict regulations on how magic is applied - like, love potions are naturally quite creepy
21:34.17OluapPlayerSzalvetha - oops i made 50 and lost them around the collegium
21:34.29XhoI could imagine by a certain point in history the Orichalcum Elves just resorted to forging alloys because Aurelian Platinum would have been a ball ache to forge from
21:34.33MonetI think platinum might also be soft
21:34.57Monet"Platinum is more ductile than gold, silver or copper, thus being the most ductile of pure metals, but it is less malleable than gold"
21:35.03GhelaeI thought that too, but a quick check on Wikipedia claims that platinum is actually slightly harder than iron.
21:35.19GhelaeBut hardness in the technical sense doesn't mean strength or toughness.
21:35.31XhoThat might also go into the forging process' difficulties
21:36.13XhoIt probably went out of fashion around the same time the Iusticiarii came into being
21:36.30GhelaeCertainly I'm sure a steel sword would be superior to, say, a gold sword.
21:36.48XhoWhich probably means Septimus' sword is either tens of thousands of years old or was forged by the Order of Sol
21:36.55XhoOr both
21:37.06MonetElf - Aurelian Platinum is sooooo 3500 BNA
21:37.14XhoMore like 23500 BNA hur
21:37.41Xhotbf if Aurelian Platinum was overpowered then Septimus would have carved his way through most stories
21:38.00GhelaeI guess you could have a magical equivalent of titanium-aluminium alloy for a lighter-and-stronger-than-steel metal.
21:38.07OluapPlayerinstead it was Longinus who did it
21:38.26XhoLonginus - when ur level 150 and get thrown into a lvl 1 lobby 5000 years in the future
21:38.29GhelaeAlthough I have no idea whether such alloys would work for swords.
21:39.06XhoTo be fair on Longinus as well, the threat level during his time was thousands of times greater since Caligaduro wasn't imprisoned
21:39.57XhoWaking up to a world that is arguably much more peaceful would come as a bit of a shock
21:40.02XhoDisregarding the fact his culture died 5000 years ago
21:40.20MonetI don't hin kyou want a sword to be -too- light
21:40.31MonetYou need a bit of weight to get the balance right.
21:40.57XhoI think I mentioned Pelagrios has an Orichalcum Elf weapon as well but that's not Aurelian Platinum
21:41.11XhoThat's just a normal-craft blade
21:42.21XhoLonginus' armour is full Aurelian Platinum however because Longinus actually is overpowered as fuck
21:42.35XhoFor 35 NA anyway
21:44.32XhoI mean he still died from a fall but
21:45.14XhoAlso makes me wonder what the Stormchaser Spear is made out of
21:45.23Xho"bird metal"
21:46.03OluapPlayerbird seeds
21:46.22XhoNalashtannylor - U WANT       SUM FUK        *zap*
21:46.53GhelaeMonet: Ah, that's true. Apparently titanium is used for some knives in used in saltwater for its corrosion resistance, but that's about it.
21:47.05XhoMore than likely just normal rock hewn out of the earth and then arcanized by Nalashtannylor
21:47.24MonetSky iron :>
21:47.30Xhoskoi orn
21:47.51XhoI don't think there is a material that is analogous with storm magic
21:48.06MonetNot really
21:48.23MonetThere is a metal called thorium but it's more like uranium on steroids.
21:48.24XhoMost of the cultures that revere Nalashtannylor are primitive, save for the Orayu and Eza'naerani
21:48.31HachimanImperios: How could we make Koldenweltian sin-eaters work
21:48.43OluapPlayerwut dat
21:48.45Monetwell an element called thorium
21:49.01HachimanSomeone who relieves the sins of an area or person via absorbing their sins and whatnot into themselves
21:49.09HachimanOr something to that effect
21:49.13OluapPlayerAh
21:49.14MonetIIRC its a proposed alternative to uranium in fission reactors but compared to uranium it's rare..
21:49.20OluapPlayerSounds like a light magic priest thing
21:49.32Xhoinb4 exorcists
21:49.39XhoI wonder how that works
21:49.54XhoI don't think there's much of a chance of demons inhabiting bodies
21:49.55Hachimaninb4 Koldenweltian sin-eaters actually eat demons
21:50.05XhoArcadian - fucking hell m8
21:50.18HachimanOr rather, absorb their power or something to that effect
21:50.23ImperiosSounds like something a religious order could do
21:50.31ImperiosPerhaps a Xashanic or Kalisearanic one
21:50.35OluapPlayerZran Kar possessed Clotholaire's body, his demon minions can probably do the same
21:50.39Xhofair
21:51.18HachimanSomeone who devours or absorbs the essence of demons and ghosts and whatnot and then uses those powers to fight other demons and ghosts and the like maybe
21:51.22HachimanYeah I like that idea
21:51.32OluapPlayerno john you are the zombies
21:51.38XhoActually wait, there was an Eschaton story with the Repossessors and Deathdealers in mortal form
21:51.44XhoSo I guess possession does happen
21:51.52OluapPlayerShapeshifting and possession are different things
21:52.01XhoHm
21:52.09XhoCould happen either way I guess
21:52.20XhoI could imagine Deathdealers using bodies taken to the Soul Market as hosts
21:52.28HachimanMakes me wonder how poltergeists and rogue ghosts occur in Koldenwelt if Mortium is in charge of things
21:52.42Xhospooki
21:52.55OluapPlayerMortium doesn't take every soul to the Underworld, some are left behind
21:53.09OluapPlayerpresumably due to their deaths being magical in nature
21:53.14XhoThere are also souls claimed by the Simulacra
21:53.18OluapPlayerAesleith's is one example
21:53.19HachimanMagical, extremely violent, etc
21:53.24HachimanYeah true
21:53.43XhoI could imagine Mortium enacting campaigns on the Simulacra for the souls they claim
21:54.29OluapPlayerWe know Mortium and Zran Kar are at eat other's throats on a constant basis
21:54.33OluapPlayereach*
21:54.50XhoMortium - gimme the souls                 Asv-Aldz - how about gold              Mortium - NO          I DON'T WANT THAT
21:55.41XhoIt is apparent that Nalashtannylor's champions go to the Underworld rather than Midnight
21:55.47Xhofuck if any mortal goes there
21:55.53HachimanImperios: What's gonna happen to Kalisearan and Alfgund's babbeh
21:56.08OluapPlayerit's a half-cat, as in it's a cat with human legs
21:56.18Xhonani
21:56.22Hachiman"kill meow"
21:56.28OluapPlayerkek
21:56.46ImperiosCould be a tiny rock elemental thing
21:57.05XhoMIKKO 2.0
21:57.09OluapPlayerpls no
21:57.11XhoNOW ACTUALLY WORSE THAN MIKKO 1.0
21:57.37HachimanMikko 2.0 actually behaves like Hysteria's Mikko
21:58.01OluapPlayerso like a black pimp
21:58.01XhoHachiman: I was thinking earlier that Vultusk might secretly (or openly) be affiliated with the Exosubstratal/Id
21:58.09XhoI think I've already mentioned this about a million times but I forget
21:58.20HachimanI mean, it'd make some sense
21:58.22OluapPlayerYou mention this every time you talk about Vultusk
21:58.25XhoI forget
21:58.29Xhohashtag goldfish
21:58.55XhoI mean a psychotic flesh-warped high priest of physical violence
21:59.01XhoHas Id written all over it
21:59.03Xhoor him
21:59.04XhoOr them
21:59.05XhoI dunno
21:59.41XhoI should remake him really
21:59.46XhoMake him properly repulsive
22:00.19OluapPlayerCyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/Ft2ZzDR.jpg Capricaeron
22:01.13Xhowow
22:03.05Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17352276_10155216185294802_5228987505917737584_n.png?oh=9a5d03f7e2fec9a61d6ad5dd6d38ceb4&oe=596E0C10
22:03.45OluapPlayerhur
22:05.52dromImperios: Game server is lagging af
22:05.59Hachimankek
22:06.26OluapPlayerrip
22:06.29Monet"what if the Earth was actually dinosaur-shaped?"
22:07.07HachimanDoes that mean the asteroid was a headshot
22:07.08Xhoend
22:07.41OluapPlayeror maybe it hit him in the crotch
22:08.00*** join/#sporewiki drom (~drom@unaffiliated/drom)
22:08.54HachimanKoldenwelt at some point needs a muscle wizard
22:09.01HachimanBecause I CAST FIST is too good
22:09.24CyrannianOluapPlayer: excuse u it's the shape of a t-rex
22:09.46OluapPlayerEirik is a muscle wizard
22:09.56OluapPlayerHe's just useless
22:10.00Hachimannon, Eirik is a monk
22:10.05HachimanAnd he ain't useless hur
22:10.12OluapPlayer>magically-powered punches
22:10.13HachimanHe just chooses to be selectively useful
22:10.13OluapPlayermuscle wizard
22:10.30Hachimanwizards r different 2 monks an clerics tho
22:11.21OluapPlayeronly requirement to be a wizard is to not have a sense of right and wrong
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22:13.11dromI guess you got my message, Imperios?
22:13.38HachimanXho: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17021664_378156439229892_4028450868504623099_n.jpg?oh=5d72642f66d4fd8c23ec90b2ef7eb7b8&oe=595A002B
22:13.48HachimanAnd OluapPlayer too
22:14.01OluapPlayerwow
22:14.18*** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (18896c47@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.137.108.71)
22:15.28Xhowow indeed
22:28.36ImperiosGoogled for muscle wizard to understand what was going on
22:28.47ImperiosFound out there is a D&D class known as "cancer mage"
22:29.08ImperiosI literally imagine a meme-spouting wizard with a Pepe's head hat
22:30.08OluapPlayerhttps://1d4chan.org/images/e/e4/Muscle_wizard.jpg
22:30.26HachimanFucking Cancer Mage
22:31.53DrodoEmpireImperios: Race - Kekistani
22:35.24DrodoEmpirehttps://twitter.com/stillgray/status/842653408905445376
22:35.59DrodoEmpireMonet
22:38.02Monet"New Chapter Games‏ @NewChapterGames  7h
22:38.03MonetMore
22:38.03Monet<PROTECTED>
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22:40.36MonetI'm retweeting this
22:40.39Monet"The hotly anticipated game of the year and we get #animations that are making even student animators cry at the shoddy quality."
22:41.25DrodoEmpireolol
22:41.51Liquid_InkWhich game?
22:42.00MonetMass Effect Andromeda
22:42.23MonetThe fail in the animation and dialogue outcome was the talk of my course today.
22:42.36Liquid_InkI see
22:47.14HachimanMonet: Shouldn't be too harsh on it, it's difficult developing a game like Mass Effect
22:47.23HachimanOf course there are gonna be some problems, it's a big game
22:47.36HachimanWould say a Bioware apologist hur
22:47.41DrodoEmpireolol
22:47.51MonetI've long been an advocate that making a solid film is actually quite a miracle
22:48.15DrodoEmpireNah I get its hard to make AAA game but from what I'm seeing Andromeda's a lazy bomb of a game
22:48.21DrodoEmpireI could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised
22:48.49DrodoEmpireI mean, their games in general have seen a drop in quality afaik and a lot of big people have left, causing brain drain
22:48.53HachimanConsider that Witcher 3 was made by a small group of independent Slavs
22:49.05HachimanMeanwhile, ME:A has an entire workforce dedicated to it
22:49.09MonetThey don't have Bioware's pressures
22:49.42HachimanWell no, they do
22:49.51OluapPlayerJokes aside, Witcher 3 was very heavily funded
22:50.01HachimanOh it was?
22:50.08OluapPlayerYeah the game has a HUGE budget
22:50.12OluapPlayerhad
22:50.58OluapPlayerIt was an AAA game done right
22:52.07OluapPlayer>The Witcher 3 is the most expensive Polish-made game of all time. The total cost to CD Projekt Red was estimated to be 34 million.
22:52.15TechnobliteratorWell, making 3D models is extremely difficult
22:52.23OluapPlayerDollars, that is
22:52.25TechnobliteratorI would really like to play Witcher 3
22:52.30OluapPlayer34 million tracksuits
22:52.39Hachiman34 million squats
22:52.39OluapPlayerjust play it then duh
22:52.46TechnobliteratorI wasn't into open world WRPGs at all, but FFXV and Horizon Zero Dawn changed my mind
22:53.02MonetTechnobliterator: I'm currently studying how to make 3D models. The models aren't entirely the problem however.
22:53.05OluapPlayerIsn't Final Fantasy made by japs tho
22:53.08TechnobliteratorIt is
22:53.12TechnobliteratorBut FFXV is very WRPG-like
22:53.13MonetThe models have flaws but the visuals are nice.
22:53.16OluapPlayerIt's not a WRPG then dungus
22:53.31TechnobliteratorIt's as much a WRPG as Dark Souls is a WRPG :V
22:53.33MonetThe main issue with the models is they're being horribly animated.
22:53.39TechnobliteratorAnd, my issue with models is just how fiddly they are
22:53.44OluapPlayerDark Souls isn't a WRPG tho
22:53.44Technobliteratorlike, I try rotating a part
22:53.47OluapPlayerIt was mde by japs
22:53.49Technobliteratorand it's stupiud hard to do
22:53.53HachimanThis is like saying Avatar is an anime
22:54.02HachimanIt's not, no matter how much it looks like one
22:54.16MonetTechnobliterator: You get used to it, also depends on the quality of the rig.
22:54.23HachimanSame thing can be applied to WRPG-esque JRPGs
22:54.37TechnobliteratorNo, but it is fair to say that after watching Avatar and enjoying it, you may be more likely to go watch an anime
22:54.42MonetA rig with poorly-matched bones is going to be a pain to animate.
22:54.46TechnobliteratorWhich is what I was trying to say
22:54.57Cyrannianhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bf/SGCW_Battle_of_Coruanthor_03.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317225426 - For the upcoming battle
22:54.58OluapPlayerur favorite game is poop
22:54.58OluapPlayerPOOP
22:55.21TechnobliteratorWell, Monet, I'm modelling the Apollo lander, just worked on the rocket's legs (or arms?) and it's stupid hard :P
22:55.32OluapPlayerMaethoruin is posed like CIA from Batman
22:56.05OluapPlayerGrand Mandator Vosaetiur, I'm Phaedric Order
22:56.08MonetLegs
22:56.47Cyranniani dunt know who that is
22:57.15CyrannianBut based on a google image search, he's Littlefinger from Game of Thrones
22:57.35TechnobliteratorI love using the software and modelling is fun, but some of the more fiddly stuff is really tricky
22:58.00OluapPlayerYou're a sweet innocent child
22:58.05OluapPlayerAnyway what's the context of that pic?
22:58.43MonetI build something with lander legs like the lander in my first year but it might be I'm more accustomed to 3D animation
22:59.09TechnobliteratorThis is my first semester of doing any animating
22:59.15TechnobliteratorIt might be my last, I'm not sure
23:00.04TechnobliteratorAlso, reminder to Monet and Cyrannian about Borealis War paragraphs just before I go shower :V
23:00.06CyrannianIn a bid to spare his world from destruction, the praesator of Corunathor surrenders to the Empire, but the Republic defenders are all 'how bout no'
23:02.50XhoHachiman OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2f/Vultusk2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170317230210 Now with 25% extra skeleton
23:03.26Hachimanfug
23:04.21MonetTechnobliterator: From your perspective animating a character will be hard
23:04.57TechnobliteratorYeah, luckily I don't have to do too much for my assignment
23:05.09TechnobliteratorI just need to have the Apollo land, and then have a dude walk out of it
23:05.54Monethttps://2.bp.blogspot.com/--wiFf3r59L4/WMmNfJY-8vI/AAAAAAAAEUw/2GdayAP7WdUxYXypfYpNO0ADJEovkgm5wCLcB/s1600/Adult%2BProgress%2B0101.jpg this is part of the rig for my current project
23:07.18OluapPlayerit's a super weasel thingy
23:11.10DrodoEmpiresooper weesil
23:13.07MonetThe considerable degree of dead faces in Andromeda concerns me
23:19.26CyrannianThat's disappointing, I enjoyed DA:I, so I expected good things from Andromeda
23:21.10Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Great_Cyrannus_War/Opening_Stages/Battle_of_Coruanthor - Started work on this
23:26.07OluapPlayer>with Aoirtae Valaeris and Vanikaimar engaging in a cat-and-mouse struggle against the Emperor's Wrath and Lord Echoriax
23:26.11OluapPlayerVanikaimar - but i dont want to tho
23:28.42CyrannianAoirtae - shup and offer jerky lines about stuff

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