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00:30.13 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/6XS2N |
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11:53.33 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21381571/14895750536961.jpg |
11:53.57 | Liquid_Ink | Yep. |
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12:20.52 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:21.06 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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12:32.43 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:33.19 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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15:27.00 | Wormy_ | hi |
15:42.17 | Tek0516 | Hello |
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15:49.22 | drom | AndroImp: I am 50 rn |
15:49.32 | drom | 50 down, 10 to go! |
15:49.33 | AndroImp | yiy |
15:49.44 | AndroImp | leveling up to 60 is easy |
15:51.04 | drom | When grinding on dungeons, yeah |
15:51.06 | drom | :) |
15:52.22 | drom | At least it is worth grinding the reputation points |
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16:05.05 | Cyrannian | Hello |
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16:05.33 | Jepardi | Hi |
16:14.02 | OluapPlayer | ~eat Cyrannian |
16:14.03 | infobot | That's too disgusting. |
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16:22.45 | Wormy_semi_here | http://www.retrothing.com/2008/08/akat-1-retrocom.html |
16:32.35 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
16:32.35 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
16:34.00 | Wormy_semi_here | Think I might be coming down with something |
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16:50.01 | NeonPanda | hi all |
16:50.25 | OluapPlayer | hi |
17:00.08 | Cyrannian | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/41/Maethoruin.png/revision/latest?cb=20170316165950 - Maethoruin's got some new duds |
17:01.24 | OluapPlayer | not spiky enuff |
17:02.12 | Cyrannian | useful for hug stabs |
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17:02.55 | Imperios | Hi |
17:03.11 | Cyrannian | Hi, take a look at this: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/41/Maethoruin.png/revision/latest?cb=20170316165950 |
17:03.13 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
17:03.24 | Imperios | Oh wow Cyr is here, I just wanted to tell you something |
17:03.26 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: where u been recently, you've not been around much |
17:04.07 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Maethoruin - *spins sword hysterically* |
17:04.51 | Cyrannian | I've been busy with college work, plus I've been playing a lot of Swtor and Halo Wars 2 Electric Boogaloo |
17:04.53 | Imperios | Also http://cs5.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2015/12/24/9/145096960012518114.jpg |
17:05.26 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I hear patch 7.2 is available to pre-load |
17:05.31 | Imperios | Yeah it is |
17:05.35 | Imperios | WE'LL BE FLYING SOON |
17:05.39 | OluapPlayer | aw yis |
17:05.45 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna guess it's gonna come out in the next week or two |
17:06.09 | Imperios | They even lowered the second pathfinder achievement's requirements |
17:06.17 | OluapPlayer | Yeah I noticed |
17:06.23 | Imperios | Previously they required Exalted with the new faction |
17:06.25 | Imperios | Now it's revered |
17:06.29 | OluapPlayer | Thank fuck for that |
17:06.38 | OluapPlayer | It's bad enough that you need two pathfinder achievements to fly in Legion |
17:07.12 | OluapPlayer | I bet they're gonna start beta-testing Argus as soon as Tomb of Sargeras comes out |
17:07.19 | OluapPlayer | They've been pumping out content like crazy |
17:07.27 | Imperios | Cyrannian: The Russian Orthodox Church declared this year that it will officially celebrate Saint Patrick's Day |
17:07.55 | OluapPlayer | I wonder if they're gonna do a 7.2.5 |
17:08.08 | OluapPlayer | I think they said they were interested in smaller scale but more frequent patches |
17:08.22 | Imperios | Could be nice to have a little content patch before Argus |
17:08.27 | Imperios | Maybe with a hint at future expansions |
17:08.50 | OluapPlayer | old god dong everywhere |
17:11.05 | Imperios | I kind of want more small raids like Trial of Valour |
17:11.11 | Imperios | That reuse assets |
17:11.38 | OluapPlayer | Trial of Valor was okay since it helped finish off a major plot line |
17:11.44 | OluapPlayer | Not sure what else they could do of that nature |
17:12.43 | OluapPlayer | just as long as I don't have to fight fucking Odyn again hur |
17:14.12 | drom | Imperios: If only I could grind my Leatherworking faster than I do with Skinning and dungeons. |
17:14.23 | AndroImp | I WILL HOLD NOTHING BACK |
17:14.29 | drom | https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269434270190272512/291981505725464579/unknown.png |
17:14.41 | AndroImp | drom: Profession levels do not matter as much in Legion |
17:15.26 | AndroImp | They are only needed for real top tier items |
17:15.37 | NeonPanda | drom: mfw mining stone in ArcheAge gave you XP faster than grinding mobs outside of dailies, and proficiency in stonecutting, so by the time I hit max-level I could do literally all the stonecutting |
17:16.08 | AndroImp | Alchemists can make flasks on any level but 800 is required to make the super cauldron |
17:16.37 | AndroImp | Which is not even stronger than normal flasks, just more convenient |
17:17.00 | AndroImp | NeonPanda: GW2 had that except with production professions |
17:17.10 | AndroImp | You gained XP by crafting things |
17:17.16 | AndroImp | It was really convenient |
17:17.39 | NeonPanda | funny thing was I had a friend who was actually trying to grind stonecutting proficiency, but I was better at stonecutting than him |
17:17.55 | NeonPanda | and I'd never actually done any stonecutting per se |
17:18.17 | OluapPlayer | Legion's lack of level requirement for crafting is a fantastic way of leveling up the actual profession |
17:18.24 | drom | AndroImp what do you mean with that? |
17:18.26 | OluapPlayer | I can finally easily train blacksmithing |
17:18.33 | OluapPlayer | Just spam leystone breastplates |
17:18.43 | drom | I don't have the Legion expansion for reference |
17:19.06 | AndroImp | drom: There is a separate crafting progression for Legion |
17:19.23 | AndroImp | That is done via quests |
17:19.33 | NeonPanda | funnily enough I actually made a pretty decent wage just selling precision-cut stone, which was actually really easy to unlock the ability to craft just people were lazy |
17:19.56 | NeonPanda | (for comparison: max proficiency was 50'000, you only needed 1'000 for PCS) |
17:20.14 | AndroImp | You are told to meet specific craftsmen or gather resources and whatnot, and you are given new recipes for that, regardless of your actual profession level |
17:20.24 | drom | AndroImp I know that there are dalies that increase your level by one for the relevant skill |
17:20.48 | AndroImp | As I said, uou can do the Legion quests at skill level one |
17:20.52 | AndroImp | *you |
17:21.04 | drom | Right, where can I do it then? |
17:21.09 | AndroImp | Once you hit 100 |
17:21.46 | drom | :V |
17:22.02 | AndroImp | But WoD garrisons will also help greatly with leveling your profession |
17:22.06 | drom | And I sit here, level 52 |
17:22.47 | AndroImp | There will be a special barn where you can farm mobs for copious amounts of leather |
17:23.07 | AndroImp | And special items that boost your skill level very quickly |
17:23.18 | AndroImp | Like +10 for every item made |
17:23.35 | NeonPanda | AndroImp: just makes me think of my Rimworld colony, I have like 8 buffalos that my colonists shear for wool to make clothes to sell |
17:24.51 | NeonPanda | speaking of, in new rimworld colony OluapPlayer is chief of making fancy statues out of stone and pointy things out of metal, and Drom is my prison warden |
17:25.18 | OluapPlayer | craftsdwarf, i mean manship of highest quality |
17:26.00 | drom | I am the prison warden? |
17:26.10 | drom | Tell me, how am I treating my patrons? |
17:26.21 | NeonPanda | well you haven't had to shoot anyone recently, so that's always nice |
17:27.27 | drom | Pah, I rock on the chair polishing on my gun. Just like the fat shrieff slacking in the wild western movies. |
17:38.25 | NeonPanda | also, is anyone familiar with the game Use Your Words? |
17:38.56 | OluapPlayer | Can't say I am |
17:39.26 | NeonPanda | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIi1S_FWveM observe |
17:51.31 | Wormy_semi_here | drom, Tek0516, Ghelae, DrodoEmpire: When hippies and techno-utopians met https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlsCLukG9A |
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18:00.49 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
18:23.50 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Did you get my message about Saint Patrick? |
18:24.10 | Cyrannian | Whoops, I missed it |
18:24.28 | Cyrannian | St Patrick's Day is cringey doe |
18:38.51 | Wormy_semi_here | Day off tho, rite? |
18:43.19 | Cyrannian | tru dat |
18:51.35 | DrodoEmpire | So uh |
18:51.56 | DrodoEmpire | If I ever figure out quite how to do it, would anybody be interested in a SporeWiki Stellaris mod? |
18:52.32 | DrodoEmpire | Something like a total conversion, a (necessarily simplified and abstracted) map and all |
18:52.48 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: I've spent a lot of time in the files so I can probably help |
18:52.56 | DrodoEmpire | Great |
18:53.41 | Tek0516 | An at least simplified static map is possible too, Star Trek New Horizons is an example on its viability |
18:53.43 | DrodoEmpire | Monet's expressed interest in doing commissions in the past, so if we get -really- serious about this I could commission a few species portraits |
18:53.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ah cool |
18:54.23 | Tek0516 | At worst we can make static species images based on Spore screenshots. |
18:54.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, though I don |
18:54.53 | DrodoEmpire | *don't know if that'd be perfect. Still, could work |
18:55.22 | Tek0516 | There's a whole thing on animating them but I haven't checked what it requires for a while. |
18:57.35 | Cyrannian | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/269465930025739591/39CAB78C08C6BDCF597CBE57150E0FBFC92F022C/ - I added a Libertus civ, but it was a frustrating process |
19:01.32 | Tek0516 | Cyrannian: As evidenced by the right arm of that poor Libertus? :P |
19:02.14 | Cyrannian | aye, that arm caused me a lot of grief |
19:02.41 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: I'd say most of the non-art stuff would need to be held off until after Banks is released too, considering the extent of its changes |
19:03.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
19:03.20 | DrodoEmpire | Definitely |
19:03.47 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: There's actually a raptor portrait pack on the workshop <.< |
19:05.38 | Tek0516 | I've wanted to try adding some stuff soon too anyway |
19:05.39 | DrodoEmpire | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=872596925 |
19:09.02 | Tek0516 | I'm kind of curious how much work even the basic animated portraits take. |
19:13.41 | Tek0516 | ...I also should really fix my Spore install. >.< |
19:24.49 | Tek0516 | Basically everything but my creations and saves are f***ed up. |
19:28.14 | Cyrannian | Ooh I'll have to check that out |
19:29.06 | Tek0516 | Drom: Remember how I mentioned my work has two independent networks? My manager just had to get two separate computers, a dedicated one for each network. O.o |
19:36.35 | Tek0516 | I'll probably play some Stellaris tonight so maybe I'll try out some modding. Or maybe just continue my game with the Star Trek mod |
19:42.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, kk |
19:42.35 | DrodoEmpire | I'ma probably download that ST mod and pick it apart a little |
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19:45.37 | Treebeard | Hello |
19:46.17 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
19:47.24 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Definitely incomplete but it's very cool in its total conversion |
19:48.19 | Tek0516 | It also has certain empires that start with multiple systems, species, etc in case we want to generate that |
19:48.58 | Tek0516 | (i.e. asymmetrical "historical" Sporewiki start) |
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20:13.06 | Imperios | Xho drom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKOI5zKgFDg |
20:13.28 | Xho | wtf |
20:14.45 | Imperios | test |
20:15.50 | OluapPlayer | hi |
20:16.18 | Xho | ohai |
20:17.41 | Xho | Cyrannian: so wait u update matheoruin's creature with your own instead of mine dik move waptor |
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20:19.01 | Monet | Heyo |
20:19.16 | Tek0516 | Hey |
20:19.32 | OluapPlayer | hi |
20:22.37 | Treebeard | Hello |
20:38.22 | Monet | AndroImp: How suited to someone with a busy life would you say GW2 is atm? |
20:52.29 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Apparently leprechauns are called "farfadets" in French |
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20:54.58 | cyrabot | hi |
20:55.54 | Treebeard | Hello |
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21:00.04 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: I wonder who would be the Fallen Empire/Stagnant Ascendancy of a Sporewiki Stellaris. |
21:00.11 | cyrabot | xhu |
21:00.44 | Xho | Hi |
21:04.09 | Imperios | Tek0516: The DI |
21:04.29 | Imperios | DI and Kicath |
21:04.49 | Tek0516 | Yeah, DI was my first pick. Kicath definitely fits. |
21:04.59 | Xho | ada wa |
21:05.10 | Tek0516 | Though modern DI is more Awakened Empire. |
21:05.25 | Imperios | The Church of Spode was a stagnant ascendancy for sure |
21:05.42 | Imperios | Oh, and Rovegar |
21:05.47 | Monet | The Beast Arises. |
21:05.58 | Imperios | Oh look we summoned Monet |
21:06.09 | Imperios | feeds Monet some gold |
21:06.14 | Imperios | Or whatever dragons eat |
21:06.21 | Wormy_semi_here | feeds Monet a cuppa |
21:06.27 | Wormy_semi_here | *English dragon |
21:06.53 | Tek0516 | https://youtu.be/WhBNQdANHOo Also this new Stellaris track is really cool, especially considering this was one take and they hadn't even seen the music before performing it. O.o |
21:07.02 | Monet | All these things are good. |
21:07.11 | Imperios | Speaking of dragons |
21:07.12 | Monet | Though dragons live better eating horses. |
21:07.26 | Imperios | I only just realised that Minos'Drakon is a play on the traditional dragon cave trope |
21:07.31 | Imperios | I feel so stupid now |
21:07.49 | Monet | You mean the imperial palace? |
21:07.56 | Imperios | Yeah |
21:08.35 | OluapPlayer | yall live in a hole |
21:09.38 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I had an idea about Eieielord's remains on Praestol |
21:09.53 | drom | Tek0516: That sounds great hur |
21:10.05 | OluapPlayer | There wouldn't be any, since Corruptus demons turn into ash when they die |
21:10.08 | Xho | I should probably finish off Ja-shonar's model |
21:10.28 | Imperios | What if his residual energy caused anomalous volcanic activity within the mountains where he was killed, which the inhabitants would tap into |
21:10.37 | Imperios | Or maybe they used to, before something terrible happened |
21:10.42 | OluapPlayer | Or most specifically, they liquefy, then disintegrate |
21:10.50 | OluapPlayer | Residual energy is anotehr story |
21:11.24 | OluapPlayer | Tapping into entropic energy never ends well so you'd end up with a lot of crazed tentacled cats |
21:11.33 | Imperios | Praestol feels like just the kind of place where people would harvest a demon's essence for energy and nobody would bat an eye |
21:11.38 | Imperios | That's what I intend to do |
21:11.59 | OluapPlayer | It'd be a very unintelligent thing to attempt, but you can do it |
21:12.00 | Imperios | There was a city in these mountains that used the residual energy, then at some point, boom, zombie apocalypse |
21:12.24 | Imperios | Behold the power of capitalism |
21:12.55 | OluapPlayer | gonna make a lot of money by turning your population into mutant violent wrecks |
21:13.12 | Xho | dosh |
21:13.25 | Xho | Sounds a bit V for Vendetta ish |
21:13.26 | Imperios | You make a lot of money, shit happens to your workers, you flee and deny everything |
21:13.50 | OluapPlayer | Last time someone tried to harness the energy of a dead Corruptus demon, a Corruptus Overworld sprouted back to life |
21:14.30 | Imperios | I think I could try making some sort of dangerous Praestol animals |
21:14.38 | OluapPlayer | If Praestol is dumb enough to attempt it, they deserve all the consequences it entails |
21:14.41 | Imperios | It is still a wild place |
21:15.09 | Imperios | Praestolites are not the most sympathetic people I guess |
21:15.15 | Monet | Depends how much harvesting the energy could seep into the power grid. |
21:15.48 | Imperios | It is likely that they never even knew where the energy came from |
21:16.26 | Monet | 90% of the time electricity comes from powering a dynamo, so if we go all scienc-y then maybe the spread coudl be in the from of the demonic energy seeping out of the power plant creeping along the power lines. |
21:16.31 | OluapPlayer | "demons are just fairy tale", says the radeon having his ear ripped off by a giant spider nightmare |
21:17.11 | OluapPlayer | If there's residual energy of Eleielord in Praestol, that'd mean his spawn would be there too |
21:17.17 | OluapPlayer | So lots of spiders |
21:19.06 | Monet | Well as Space Hong Kong whose to say what's down in the underlevels of its megacities. |
21:20.56 | OluapPlayer | only requirement for my approval is a substantial amount of casualties |
21:22.27 | Monet | If I understand Praestol right, so long as those casualties are Praestol's poor and destitute, the administration wouldn't see it as a crisis. |
21:22.44 | Monet | So the possibility exists |
21:23.11 | OluapPlayer | place must be purged in big neon purple demon fire |
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21:46.21 | Monet | COntinuiing what Impy said I think it took me a little while ot realise the Imperial palace was playing off a dragon staple |
21:47.31 | Monet | I initially just thought it was a very effective defensive measure. |
21:48.30 | OluapPlayer | Convenient coincidence |
21:49.16 | Monet | I might have been inspired by the Gallente Command from EVE |
21:52.12 | Monet | In the centre of their capital is a plaza where it and the surrounding buildings made primarily of diamond |
21:52.26 | Monet | About a kilometre underneath is Navy High Command. |
21:54.45 | Monet | The whole diamond facade thing is more in line with Vetarion's palace. |
21:55.57 | drom | AndroImp OluapPlayer: Meanwhile in a 55-60 level zone. http://i.imgur.com/shVwwrZ.png |
21:56.17 | AndroImp | Wrong Blasted Lands kek |
21:56.28 | drom | And yes, that is an level 110 hostile mob |
21:56.38 | Xho | lol get shrekt |
21:56.40 | drom | Silithus, actually. |
21:56.44 | AndroImp | Oh |
21:56.54 | AndroImp | Silithus is useless |
21:57.02 | AndroImp | Just go to the Blasted Lands and be done with it |
21:57.03 | drom | At the Twiligt Base Camps, you know these with those big stone obelisks |
21:57.09 | Wormy_semi_here | DrodoEmpire: https://pics.me.me/ayy-mao-lmao-lmao-2528890.png |
21:57.28 | AndroImp | Silithus has them because of the recent global event there I think |
21:57.42 | drom | :/ |
21:58.28 | drom | WEll since I am a hunter, it is easy to avoid their insanely big aggro range with Forfeit Death |
21:59.04 | OluapPlayer | I didn't think Silithus mobs were given max level |
21:59.09 | OluapPlayer | I thought they had level scaling |
21:59.33 | Xho | OluapPlayer AndroImp: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Ja-shonar qt catboi is not actually qt catboi |
22:00.07 | AndroImp | Not hot and cute and sparkly enough |
22:00.34 | OluapPlayer | more like a very pissed off looking chinese man |
22:00.45 | Xho | Ja-shonar - nani |
22:00.51 | Xho | yeh wrong culture fuk u weeb |
22:01.23 | OluapPlayer | Silithus being a level 110 area is dumb though |
22:01.35 | OluapPlayer | >area has level 110 mobs >and two level 60 raids |
22:02.58 | OluapPlayer | Wish I could use my Red Qiraji mount outside of the raids. It's the only rare drop mount I ever got |
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22:12.30 | drom | OluapPlayer, it is still a level 55-60 area |
22:12.43 | drom | It is just that the elementals is there for some dumb reason. |
22:13.02 | drom | are, even |
22:13.43 | drom | There is not a single vendor with repair services |
22:13.47 | drom | fuck dis place |
22:13.54 | drom | screw outlands, too |
22:15.27 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: If we really do a SporeWiki mod we should package the Spore Galaxy Colours mod in. :P |
22:15.42 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
22:15.56 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
22:15.59 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I've been away |
22:16.17 | DrodoEmpire | I think the Silvan Megastructural Culture would be a good FE |
22:16.54 | DrodoEmpire | Not the DI or any of those, given that they're active political entities |
22:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | And have not experienced a fall of their civilisation at any level |
22:17.54 | Tek0516 | Maybe Monet can correct me but I think the DI did at one point |
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22:18.54 | DrodoEmpire | I just zucked myself <.< |
22:19.15 | Wormy_semi_here | DrodoEmpire: https://pics.me.me/ayy-mao-lmao-lmao-2528890.png |
22:19.23 | OluapPlayer | fukin ded |
22:19.29 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I saw hur |
22:19.54 | Tek0516 | 6:17 PM <Tek0516> Maybe Monet can correct me but I think the DI did at one point > Only thing you missed (sorry for double ping monet) |
22:20.29 | DrodoEmpire | ...eeyeah but they've certainly climbed out of that hole |
22:20.59 | DrodoEmpire | The DI's history is highly cyclical, and it goes through times of prosperity and times of conflict as I understand it |
22:21.13 | OluapPlayer | they literally live in a hole tho |
22:21.15 | DrodoEmpire | As an entity its outlived multiple -species- that claimed the title of "Draconis" |
22:21.53 | DrodoEmpire | So I think it'd be highly inaccurate to make it an FE |
22:22.06 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Also why I mentioned at some point they're more Awakened Ascendancy than FE |
22:22.09 | DrodoEmpire | FEs should be reserved for those civs who've truly fallen from grace in the FU |
22:22.11 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
22:23.06 | DrodoEmpire | If possible it'd probably also be wise to mod in different govenment forms, maybe hardcode some empires to have them |
22:23.20 | AndroImp | The Rovegar are the closest thing we have |
22:23.25 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
22:23.31 | DrodoEmpire | Them and the old Silvan civ |
22:23.37 | DrodoEmpire | So say some form of constitutional monarchy for the Drodo Empire |
22:23.54 | AndroImp | Or we could fuck up the canon and have some of our traditional precursors as FEs |
22:24.10 | AndroImp | Not sure if the Divinarium counts as an oligarchy or a monarchy |
22:24.23 | Monet | Monarchy. |
22:25.47 | Monet | Oligarchies elect a single member to be a spokesman or figurehad. |
22:26.14 | Monet | The real control of an oligarchy comes from just underneath the head of state. |
22:27.14 | AndroImp | Yeah but the Clericarch is elected by the oligarchical council |
22:28.20 | AndroImp | I think that in certain states whether the government is an oligarchy or a autocracy can depend on the person |
22:28.28 | AndroImp | Like the Soviet Union for example |
22:28.45 | Tek0516 | Playing the Star Trek Stellaris mod I apparently missed the Federation forming. O.O |
22:29.35 | Monet | Though while oligarchies in Stellaris elect leaders that run for 40 years, I imagine there could be real oligarchies where the elected head is there for life. |
22:29.49 | AndroImp | Well again the Soviet Union |
22:30.26 | AndroImp | Most leaders ruled for life |
22:30.57 | AndroImp | But then there is China where leaders change every now and then |
22:33.07 | Tek0516 | Stellaris is getting a new tier of leadership type next patch between oligarchy and monarchy. |
22:33.20 | AndroImp | What would it be like? |
22:33.37 | AndroImp | Actually gimme an example of a good modern oligarchy outside the obvious |
22:33.58 | OluapPlayer | Monet: https://www.reddit.com/r/shadowofmordor/comments/5ypjle/livestream_info_dump/deryd7y/ have some Shadow of War info from last week's stream |
22:34.44 | Monet | AndroImp Lord-mayor of London possibly |
22:34.55 | AndroImp | That is not a country |
22:35.08 | Monet | The lord mayor is elected by the guilds, rather than by the people. |
22:36.34 | Wormy_semi_here | Cyrannian: FREEDOM http://imgur.com/gallery/MXd3R |
22:37.01 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I like the detail around Talon's beard. |
22:37.23 | OluapPlayer | His beard is the least of my worries hur |
22:37.31 | Monet | I know |
22:37.47 | Tek0516 | AndroImp: Well actually it's just rules for life but not hereditary. |
22:37.49 | Monet | I pointed it out because were people worried about that? |
22:38.11 | OluapPlayer | Apparently a sizeable amount of people were |
22:38.23 | OluapPlayer | guess they like their men hairy |
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22:39.35 | Monet | Bonsoir monsieur. |
22:40.06 | Wormy_semi_here | AndroImp: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Combined_flag_of_the_Celtic_nations.jpg |
22:40.09 | OluapPlayer | This game is looking so hype though |
22:40.18 | OluapPlayer | I hope they show more gameplay soon |
22:40.19 | Monet | Choo-choo! |
22:40.32 | OluapPlayer | all aboard the mordor train |
22:40.48 | Charles_Bot | anghredadun nos da |
22:41.54 | Monet | Last call for the hype train to More-door! |
22:42.51 | OluapPlayer | This all makes me want to watch Lord of the Rings again. Last time I did must've been over 10 years ago |
22:43.24 | Monet | "They only allusion to a sequel is when they jokingly described the movie Hellboy 2 as the sequel to Shadow of War" If such a sequel is made hopefully it won't be as shit. |
22:43.42 | Xho | B U I L D M E A N A R M Y W O R T H Y O F M O R D O R |
22:44.41 | OluapPlayer | They mentioned it because they did some trivia questions and one of them was the meaning of Celebrimbor's name in elven language, which's Silver Fist |
22:44.49 | OluapPlayer | and apparently there's someone in Hellboy 2 called Silver Hand |
22:44.59 | Xho | huh |
22:45.03 | Xho | I don't remember that |
22:45.30 | OluapPlayer | never watched Hellboy 2 so I wouldn't know |
22:45.40 | Xho | Oh wait Nuada, that makes sense |
22:45.46 | AndroImp | Wormy_semi_here: that looks like a mess hur |
22:45.46 | Xho | His full title is Prince Nuada of the Silver Hand |
22:45.54 | AndroImp | But interesting nonetheless |
22:46.10 | Xho | No wait that's Silverlance |
22:46.10 | AndroImp | OluapPlayer: fucking paladins |
22:46.13 | Xho | I'm confused now |
22:46.32 | OluapPlayer | Maybe I misheard, anyway you get the point |
22:46.45 | Wormy_semi_here | mind blown http://imgur.com/gallery/IXCkW |
22:46.59 | Xho | aye |
22:47.03 | OluapPlayer | Drakes are confirmed to be found in the wilderness and you can dominate them and terrorize the countryside |
22:47.06 | OluapPlayer | that's what matters |
22:47.17 | Monet | I vaguely recall the plot other than a group of elves looking for the macguffin to power up the titular army. |
22:47.23 | Xho | Nuada is an extremely ancient elf who's also bitter about losing his culture so it makes sense that he came up in it |
22:47.38 | OluapPlayer | burninating the countryside burninating the peasants |
22:47.45 | Xho | what in burnation |
22:48.02 | Xho | inb4 smaug with a straw hat |
22:48.17 | Monet | They included Minas Morgul in the stream. |
22:48.23 | Monet | IIRC |
22:48.26 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X5NJleYJQ educate yaself |
22:48.40 | Monet | So that's one famous fortress |
22:48.49 | Xho | Minas Morgul eh |
22:48.57 | Xho | We're gonna see some Witch King of Angmar action |
22:49.22 | Monet | Likely we get to take it over. |
22:49.40 | Xho | dat boss fight tho |
22:49.40 | Monet | Given the inclusion of Sauron We may or may not be able to besiege Barad-Dur. |
22:50.29 | Monet | My money is on Barad-Dur being the biggest fortress in the game because final boss level. |
22:50.54 | Wormy_semi_here | #freetheskeleton http://imgur.com/gallery/TDlm6 |
22:51.08 | Xho | So what point in time does these games actually take place |
22:51.34 | Xho | Oh right between the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings |
22:51.56 | OluapPlayer | Nazgul are confirmed to be boss fights |
22:52.08 | OluapPlayer | Witch-King probably included |
22:52.10 | Monet | SO we might very well get WIch King action |
22:52.39 | Monet | Honestly his appearance in the trilogy was cool but they underpowered him. |
22:52.54 | Xho | The extended addition builds on him slightly |
22:53.03 | Monet | The Witch-King is said to have all the benefits of living as a Nazgul with none of the drawbacks, for one. |
22:53.10 | Xho | Like he shatters Gandalf's staff with a vacuum from his sword |
22:53.31 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7egAVqmH4Q Here we are |
22:53.54 | Monet | He was among the nine that chased Frodo but I think it's said he wouldn't have been affected by Arwen's water stallion spell like the others were. |
22:53.55 | Wormy_semi_here | http://imgur.com/gallery/u2mh4 |
22:54.58 | Wormy_semi_here | http://imgur.com/gallery/oIZdP |
22:55.11 | OluapPlayer | Considering Talion has an elven wraith empowering him, plus his own Ring of Power now |
22:55.13 | OluapPlayer | He's essentially a mini-nazgul |
22:55.44 | Monet | Xho: A scream that shatters a tool of the Istari that'll about do it. |
22:56.08 | Xho | Doesn't explain how Gandalf managed to slay the Balrog |
22:56.14 | Xho | And the Balrog is a fallen Maiar |
22:56.49 | Monet | With great determination |
22:56.56 | Monet | He did get promoted for the accomplishment. |
22:57.22 | OluapPlayer | Isn't Gandalf a Maiar or something like that too? |
22:57.28 | Xho | He is |
22:57.36 | Xho | So is Sauron |
22:57.40 | Monet | SO it's an angel vs angel battle |
22:57.50 | Xho | They all vary in degrees of power, Sauron is probably the most powerful of the Maiar |
22:58.01 | OluapPlayer | so u got ur answer |
22:58.32 | Xho | The Balrogs were ruled by Morgoth but I don't know if the Balrogs would serve Sauron |
22:58.55 | OluapPlayer | Sauron is Morgoth's successor so I don't see why not |
22:59.26 | Monet | They might do so begrudgingly |
22:59.37 | Xho | Well Durin's Bane laid in state for over 5000 years |
22:59.40 | Monet | Or they'd do it similar to how Gandalf was subordinate to Saruman. |
22:59.54 | OluapPlayer | The Balrog in SoW might be the only one |
22:59.56 | Xho | Probably, I don't think Durin's Bane would be aware of Sauron |
23:00.12 | OluapPlayer | He's confirmed to be something you'll encounter in-game, rather than just a cinematic trailer thing |
23:00.18 | Xho | oh god |
23:00.30 | Wormy_semi_here | Monet, Xho: Books on how to summon spirits and demons http://imgur.com/gallery/jLlkr |
23:00.42 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOSzAZDwYrE :o |
23:01.37 | Xho | ooh |
23:01.48 | Xho | The films rarely imply Gandalf is a Maiar |
23:02.07 | AndroImp | So it goes |
23:02.09 | OluapPlayer | I definitely didn't know until recently |
23:02.10 | Xho | I think there's one line where he mentions he has lived three hundred lives of men or someting |
23:02.14 | Xho | something* |
23:02.30 | OluapPlayer | I thought he was just an old man who came back to life for no reason |
23:02.32 | AndroImp | Sauron > Saruman > Gandalf > Balrog |
23:02.35 | Xho | lul |
23:02.46 | Xho | Actually, Gandalf is more powerful than Saruman |
23:03.02 | Xho | As Maiar anyway |
23:03.48 | AndroImp | Why do Balrogs look different though |
23:03.59 | AndroImp | Could say Gandalf shapeshift into one I wonder |
23:03.59 | Monet | They're fallen Maiar. |
23:04.00 | Xho | They fell to the darkness |
23:04.02 | AndroImp | Could be useful |
23:04.11 | Xho | Well Gandalf can shapeshift |
23:04.16 | Xho | Hence why he is an old man |
23:04.24 | Monet | They were corrupted by Morgoth's dark power. |
23:04.31 | OluapPlayer | how obvious hur |
23:04.35 | AndroImp | I think it would be cool if he shapeshifted into something useful |
23:04.36 | Xho | I don't think he can change form whilst in Middle-Earth though |
23:04.59 | Monet | Sauron was said to have one been able to take the form of one of the Eldar. |
23:05.07 | AndroImp | I remember Sauron had a bishonen form |
23:05.14 | Xho | Annatar doi |
23:05.16 | OluapPlayer | That's his Bringer of Gifts disguise |
23:05.26 | AndroImp | But after getting killed could not assume it anymore |
23:05.36 | AndroImp | Hence being stuck with the badass armored guy form |
23:05.44 | AndroImp | And then the eye |
23:06.13 | OluapPlayer | I've read Sauron was never a big floating eye in the books. That's a movie invention |
23:06.28 | Monet | Wormy: I've heard of Magick in Theory and Practice and -maybe- the Ars Notaria. |
23:07.59 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Before the events of the Lord of the Rings he did spend time as the Necromancer of Dol Goldur. |
23:08.09 | Monet | Guldur* |
23:08.22 | Xho | AndroImp: Kind of true, Sauron's inability to take on a fair form was only when Númenor was destroyed |
23:08.25 | AndroImp | One way or another he was bodiless |
23:08.37 | Wormy_semi_here | I had heard of Corpus Hermeticum and the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus |
23:08.40 | Xho | He was caught up in the destruction of the island and lost his physical form |
23:08.57 | Wormy_semi_here | I purchased The Secret of the Golden Flower but failed to understand it |
23:09.54 | Monet | I vaguely recal lthey -may- have mentioned Principia Mathematica in Doctor Strange. |
23:10.18 | Xho | Númenor's destruction caused Arda to turn from flat into spherical |
23:10.38 | OluapPlayer | One thing I found interesting while reading about book-Sauron is that, superhuman attributes aside, he was actually a poor fighter and avoided physical confrontation whenever possible |
23:11.02 | Xho | Pretty much |
23:11.04 | OluapPlayer | Not what comes to mind when the dude is a big black walking suit of armor |
23:11.11 | Xho | The Maiar weren't exactly superhuman |
23:11.19 | Xho | They were just intelligent and gifted with magic |
23:11.32 | AndroImp | Sauron, the Maiar equivalent of an autistic edgy geek who hates everyone |
23:11.38 | Monet | Wormy_semi_Here: Doctor Strange did mention the Key of Solomon. |
23:11.51 | Xho | Sauron more so than most, hence why he managed to drive Middle-Earth into darkness during the Second Age |
23:12.00 | Xho | Not many Maiar by themselves were capable of that |
23:12.18 | Xho | He used his magical power and charm to make everyone fall to him |
23:12.46 | AndroImp | Wormy_semi_here: Just realised when you posted that picture. I always find it weird when protesters in other countries fly the hammer and sickle flag |
23:13.18 | AndroImp | Sorry for nerding about symbols again hur |
23:13.26 | AndroImp | They kind of became my passion recently |
23:13.45 | Xho | Morgoth is a Valar so he was more powerful than Sauron |
23:14.00 | AndroImp | But yeah, I have never thought of it as a political symbol even though it is, it was kind of more of a national symbol here |
23:14.21 | OluapPlayer | villain overlord of inactive sporewiki admins |
23:14.31 | AndroImp | What if |
23:14.34 | Xho | hoh |
23:14.37 | Monet | OluapPlayer: At the battle of Pelennor Fields, Sauron's appearance was something of a last stand. |
23:14.41 | Monet | Not Pellenor fields |
23:14.41 | AndroImp | Morgothbot is Sauron |
23:14.51 | Monet | WHerever the battle of the Last Alliance was. |
23:14.55 | Xho | Mordor |
23:14.55 | AndroImp | Oh wait he is no longer here |
23:15.08 | OluapPlayer | Morgothbot is gone so I guess that means the One Ring is destroyed in sporewiki canon |
23:15.19 | Monet | In the books it was outside the Black Gates, and became the swamp Frodo and Sam crossed in the movie |
23:15.32 | Wormy_semi_here | AndroImp: Understandable |
23:15.48 | AndroImp | <PROTECTED> |
23:16.04 | Wormy_semi_here | To me its the symbol of communism |
23:16.17 | AndroImp | So weird that different symbols have so different connotations in different countries |
23:16.32 | Wormy_semi_here | Seperated from any national ideology but it does make me think of the Soviets |
23:16.33 | Xho | Shelob also kind of qualifies as an Ainur as well |
23:16.42 | Monet | The dead men, orcs and elves whose bodies floated in the waters, and who kept the torches lit, were those damned by Sauron's armies. |
23:16.42 | OluapPlayer | Shadow of Mordor definitely makes the big armored Sauron entertaining when you fight him in the Bright Lord DLC, since he can team-kill his own uruks and send them flying across the battlefield like ragdolls |
23:16.43 | AndroImp | Like the red star too |
23:17.03 | AndroImp | Everywhere else it is a symbol of opposition to militarism and authority |
23:17.03 | Wormy_semi_here | Even the North Korean Juche symbolism looks derived |
23:17.21 | AndroImp | Here it is a symbol of the military |
23:17.35 | Monet | Sauron was pretty deadly in the fight largely due to his magic. |
23:17.53 | Wormy_semi_here | Yeah to me stars make me think of dictators, and not necessarily communist ones. |
23:18.05 | Monet | It's one of the Peter Jackson decisions to clad him in spiky armour. |
23:18.34 | OluapPlayer | Was he shown in spiky armor in the movies? I don't really remember |
23:18.38 | AndroImp | Not just the army, but say a TV channel that runs war movies has it as a logo, or army figurine shops |
23:18.44 | Xho | Yeah |
23:18.49 | OluapPlayer | As far as I remember he was just a big red eye |
23:19.31 | Xho | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/bc/48/85/bc488524f04d56b55d05efb9a8da69f4.jpg Looks like that in the film |
23:19.32 | Monet | We saw Giant Spiky Sauron was in the prologue bit. |
23:19.33 | AndroImp | Wormy_semi_here: I think that quite a few communist countries tried making their own answer to the hammer and sickle |
23:19.43 | AndroImp | East Germany had the hammer and compass |
23:19.57 | AndroImp | Hungary the hammer and wheat sheaf |
23:20.00 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_nXcgEXxg |
23:21.00 | Monet | In the 1978 animated adaptation, all we saw of Sauron was a shadow on a wall. |
23:21.48 | AndroImp | Xho: Sauron's mace looks and acts like a Warhammer power weapon here |
23:23.54 | Monet | Pretty-much. |
23:24.55 | Xho | https://youtu.be/ssYpJn5YGJc?t=1m55s Sauron is arguably more badass in this |
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23:25.53 | OluapPlayer_ | AndroImp: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20542018/patch-7-2-transmogrification-sets-are-coming |
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23:26.40 | Xho | OluapPlayer_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLhypaRifcE This kind of shows how powerful Galadriel is |
23:27.26 | OluapPlayer | I don't really know who Galadriel is or why she's important |
23:27.33 | cyrabot | sauron is the smoke monster from lost |
23:27.47 | Monet | She's one of the greatest elven sorceresses |
23:27.55 | Monet | And queen of Mirkwood. |
23:28.00 | Xho | Lothlorien |
23:28.14 | Xho | Thranduil is the king of Mirkwood |
23:29.25 | OluapPlayer | What is even happening in that scene hur |
23:29.26 | Xho | Galadriel comes from an ancient culture of elves and is one of Sauron's oldest surviving enemies |
23:29.30 | Xho | no clue |
23:29.33 | Xho | that film isn't good |
23:29.51 | Xho | But yeah when Sauron presented the three elven rings, Galadriel was one of them |
23:29.58 | Xho | One of the receivers |
23:30.10 | Monet | Gandalf confonts Sauron at Dol Guldur. |
23:30.21 | Monet | That's the scene. |
23:31.49 | Xho | She's also Elrond's mother in law |
23:32.07 | Monet | I can't remember how but Gandalf was captured as Elrond and Galadrial had dismissed Sauron's return. |
23:32.23 | Monet | SO Gandalf had gone to find out the truth himself. |
23:32.43 | Xho | In the book she actually razes Dol Guldur to the ground |
23:33.00 | Xho | As far as I remember |
23:33.45 | Xho | But yeah Galadriel was a pain in Sauron's side for over three thousand years running |
23:34.19 | OluapPlayer | nice lady would piss off for kicks |
23:34.22 | Xho | She's also the eldest of a dying culture so that makes her important as well |
23:34.51 | Xho | By the books the Elves have vanished from Middle-Earth |
23:34.55 | Xho | Very few left anyway |
23:34.59 | Monet | Yeah was going to say didn't she remember the war of the First Age? |
23:35.10 | Xho | Pretty much |
23:35.18 | Xho | She was already over a thousand years old by that point |
23:36.08 | Xho | Tolkien puts her birth year at YT 1362 which is about 8,000 - 10,000 years before the events in the books |
23:36.22 | Monet | Old lady. |
23:36.43 | Xho | Elrond is quite old as well |
23:36.53 | Monet | Being a recipient of one of the Elven rings makes sense why in the film she went a little power-trippy although I don't think that happened in the book did it? |
23:37.23 | Xho | Well she has the power trip in the Fellowship of the Ring |
23:37.39 | Xho | Most of the Hobbit films are artistic licence in comparison |
23:38.08 | Xho | But yeah from what I gather its a visage of her being if she fell to the darkness |
23:38.14 | Monet | I remember watching the scene thinking "Bloody hell lady I thought you were nice!" |
23:38.37 | Xho | heh |
23:40.02 | Xho | But yeah Dark!Galadriel is pretty much as bad as Sauron |
23:40.06 | Monet | Great performance though. |
23:40.40 | Xho | Well Cate Blanchett always does |
23:40.56 | Xho | I read somewhere that Galadriel is the most powerful being in Middle-Earth |
23:41.03 | Monet | IIRC by the time the Fourth Age came around the last of the Elves had departed. |
23:41.07 | Xho | Regarding Sauron's weakened state |
23:42.23 | Xho | Yeah pretty much |
23:42.32 | Xho | Anyway I need sleep |
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