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09:32.00 | Hachiman | Hi |
09:33.01 | Ghelae | Hi |
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09:33.25 | Wormydroid | Hi |
09:34.23 | Wormydroid | I met a transhumanist face to face last night in the pub. He buldozed into our conversation somehow |
09:34.49 | Ghelae | Hi |
09:35.43 | Wormydroid | He seemed smart and well read, but the more he talkedI realised he was one of those uncritical transhumanists who are certain we will be digitally uploaded in 50 years and the singularity is coming |
09:36.19 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
09:36.24 | Wormydroid | And he would come out with weird things like the Flat Earth society |
09:37.01 | Wormydroid | And thought beards were a primitive meme from Viking times |
09:37.43 | Liquid_Ink | ..? |
09:39.13 | Hachiman | Fucking hell |
09:39.26 | Wormydroid | I have never before met a transhumanist, and I didn't expect to fibd one in a small Derbyshire town microbrewery |
09:40.43 | Wormydroid | He buldozed into a conversation that had nothing to do with the singularity, like he was just waiting there to do so |
09:42.22 | Hachiman | hur |
09:42.34 | Hachiman | Yeah, as far as I know, they kinda have a tendency to do that |
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09:47.59 | Wormydroid | Hachiman saw Trainspotting 2 last night |
09:48.07 | Hachiman | How was it? |
09:48.34 | Wormydroid | You need to watch the first one to get all the references |
09:48.51 | Hachiman | Well of course |
09:48.57 | Wormydroid | But it felt just like Trainspotting 1 |
09:49.10 | Hachiman | Is that a good or bad thing? |
09:49.23 | Wormydroid | Goodx definitely |
09:53.10 | Wormydroid | Hachiman That feel when you laugh at scenes when nobody else does |
09:53.17 | Hachiman | hur |
09:54.21 | Wormydroid | They were definitely serious domestic issues not meant to he laughed at |
09:54.46 | Wormydroid | But I was pretty drunk so |
09:55.09 | Hachiman | olol |
09:55.14 | Hachiman | So you watched it drunk then |
09:55.25 | Hachiman | Did you see it with any mates? |
09:55.57 | Wormydroid | Yes |
09:56.11 | Wormydroid | I drank before, during and after |
09:56.31 | Wormydroid | Then we went to the pub and met the transhumanist |
09:57.13 | Hachiman | Sounds like the beginning to a sci-fi story |
09:57.20 | Hachiman | With comedic elements |
09:57.39 | Wormydroid | Yes, like one of the Three Cornetto films |
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11:11.50 | Hachiman | Wormydroid: http://irskaad.deviantart.com/journal/Learn-Something-Sporewiki-History-Channel-FTW-668650003 Case of Irsk thinking History Channel represents actual science and history #256 |
11:12.13 | Wormydroid | reads ot |
11:12.41 | Wormydroid | Yeah more like pseudohistory abd cryptozoology channel |
11:13.16 | Hachiman | I also left what I believe to be a nice comment that isn't too petty or personal at all |
11:13.21 | Wormydroid | That being said I still like to learn about Bigfoot |
11:13.55 | Wormydroid | Ah shit, the bus wifi blocks DA |
11:14.12 | Wormydroid | Will read it later |
11:17.20 | Wormydroid | Ghelae Emergence without forces, just entropy https://www.quantamagazine.org/20170308-digital-alchemist-sharon-glotzer-interview-emergence/ |
11:19.39 | Ghelae | reads it |
11:20.11 | Wormydroid | Nice example of when ordered structures give more options to a system for arranging itself |
11:20.37 | Ghelae | It's not quite without interactions: "the particles are perfectly hard", to quote the article. |
11:21.47 | Wormydroid | Yes, they seem to collide at least |
11:24.00 | Ghelae | Hachiman: On top of that, AFAIK most SporeWikiverse nations *do* use artificial soldiers and drones ("robots", as he simplistically assumes they must be); it's just that for the narrative and space-magic reasons you mention, stories necessarily focus on other characters. |
11:24.15 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: It still sounds a bit petty hur |
11:24.28 | ImpyDroid | But I agree with most of your points |
11:24.59 | Ghelae | We'll have to post those comments again when he comes back. |
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11:25.17 | Ghelae | Hello. |
11:25.40 | ImpyDroid | Heu |
11:25.40 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
11:25.43 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
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11:26.11 | Ghelae | Hachiman: On top of that, AFAIK most SporeWikiverse nations *do* use artificial soldiers and drones ("robots", as he simplistically assumes they must be); it's just that for the narrative and space-magic reasons you mention, stories necessarily focus on other characters. |
11:26.29 | Hachiman | Ah so you read it as well then |
11:26.34 | Ghelae | Yes. |
11:26.37 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: https://pics.onsizzle.com/since-when-is-this-more-attractive-than-this-end-the-12461785.png |
11:27.14 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Nah the comment is nice, maybe a little bit pretentious but that is just how you normally write so it was not your intention as I understand |
11:27.29 | Hachiman | Was something said before I disconnected? |
11:27.34 | Hachiman | Cus if it was, I missed it |
11:27.48 | ImpyDroid | I said roughly the same thing |
11:27.53 | Liquid_Ink | Impy: lol |
11:28.12 | Liquid_Ink | What's this conversation I walked halfway in on? |
11:28.20 | Hachiman | Also it's fine to call my comment pretentious when it's compared to what the dumbass wrote hur |
11:28.38 | Ghelae | What we said before you disconnected was what we reposted when you returned. |
11:28.44 | Hachiman | Righto |
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11:30.05 | Wormydroid_ | Could someone link me the Da post again? |
11:30.11 | Hachiman | Wormydroid: http://irskaad.deviantart.com/journal/Learn-Something-Sporewiki-History-Channel-FTW-668650003 |
11:30.21 | Wormydroid_ | Cheers |
11:30.37 | ImpyDroid | He posted me the same thing |
11:30.51 | ImpyDroid | Yesterday I think |
11:31.04 | Wormydroid_ | Fuck sake even my 3G wants me to login |
11:31.19 | Wormydroid_ | Because of all the porn on DA |
11:31.22 | ImpyDroid | Well, that being said, our battles are of course terribly unrealistic, but we embrace it |
11:31.32 | Wormydroid_ | But fuck the nanny state |
11:34.08 | Wormydroid_ | I suspect my Mama's network will be adult blocked as well |
11:35.16 | Hachiman | I could just put it in a pastie |
11:35.37 | Wormydroid_ | Yes please |
11:36.30 | Wormydroid_ | I just hate it when dogooders get theur talons in |
11:36.47 | Wormydroid_ | To my life |
11:38.17 | Wormydroid_ | Test |
11:38.49 | Liquid_Ink | Falied |
11:39.34 | Hachiman | Wormydroid_: https://www.pastiebin.com/58c684e5bd2d9 |
11:39.44 | Wormydroid_ | Thanks |
11:39.55 | Hachiman | I also put my comment in there |
11:41.14 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Now that I saw the end of it all |
11:41.26 | ImpyDroid | ...I'd rather say it would be better to ignore him |
11:41.35 | ImpyDroid | Removing the comment is better |
11:41.39 | Hachiman | Nah |
11:42.03 | Liquid_Ink | The comment is awfully savage, but it's not technically wrong. |
11:42.09 | Hachiman | It's my choice to make him feel like shit for being a stupid retard who can't get over his own pettyness |
11:43.30 | Wormydroid_ | That's a vicious burn to sporewikiverse warfare bt refuting it with a history doc program |
11:44.12 | ImpyDroid | Yes but you are just feeding him |
11:44.26 | ImpyDroid | He will only write more because now he feels motivated |
11:45.10 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah, I'm actually going to agree with Impy here. |
11:45.23 | Hachiman | Eh, whatever |
11:45.52 | Hachiman | This is the same guy who hates trees like they killed his dog or something |
11:46.18 | Liquid_Ink | Wait, what? |
11:46.20 | Hachiman | Wormydroid_: Unless it's pants-on-head retarded, storytelling comes before absolutely accurate depictions of warfare and science imo |
11:46.29 | Hachiman | Liquid_Ink: You didn't know that? |
11:46.33 | ImpyDroid | Just saying |
11:46.37 | Liquid_Ink | I missed this. |
11:46.38 | Hachiman | Irsk vehemently hates trees and nature |
11:46.40 | ImpyDroid | Ignoring him would feel better |
11:46.46 | Hachiman | As in, on a deeply personal level |
11:46.56 | ImpyDroid | Bah whatever |
11:47.12 | Liquid_Ink | Did Impy just flounce? |
11:48.23 | Liquid_Ink | He hates trees and nature? Is Irsk some sort of Captain Planet villain? |
11:48.37 | Hachiman | Yes |
11:49.00 | Hachiman | He believes it would be better if we got rid of parks and gardens and whatnot and trees be replaced with technological oxygen filters |
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11:49.34 | Hachiman | And that the environment does not need to be conserved - in fact, it needs even more reduction for the human resource machine |
11:49.57 | Hachiman | And I'm not even joking, I wish I was |
11:50.47 | ImpyDroid | Dear Lord, why do you care so much about this |
11:50.55 | Hachiman | Because it's funny as fuck hur |
11:50.57 | ImpyDroid | He is just a broken person |
11:51.04 | ImpyDroid | Leave him alone |
11:51.33 | ImpyDroid | Even if you want to hurt him, ignoring one is just as painful |
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11:52.09 | ImpyDroid | Besides we are all autistic idiots here, just somewhat more well adjusted than him |
11:52.13 | Hachiman | I remember I heard it said from him that animals we want to conserve should be placed in captivity, that deforestation should be put to the max, and that his ideal image for the planet is for Earth to become something akin to a planet-sized industrial facility where everything is tip-top efficient |
11:52.33 | ImpyDroid | lel |
11:52.39 | Wormydroid | I remember Irskaad beibg like this |
11:52.58 | ImpyDroid | I remember this |
11:53.14 | Liquid_Ink | Let's make the Kraw Galaxy an Apalos nature preserve. |
11:53.15 | Wormydroid | I think he was trolling us though, he doesn't like Green politics so went to the extra level |
11:53.22 | Hachiman | He wasn't trolling |
11:53.48 | Hachiman | He hated the idea of natural conservation so much he got into heated debates with the likes of Monet, you, and myself about it and even reflected in his fiction |
11:54.04 | Wormydroid | I was a Greenie back then |
11:54.20 | Hachiman | To the point that he wrote a faction of aliens whose purpose was dedicated to eradicating nature across worlds and turning them into planet-sized industrial facilities |
11:54.27 | ImpyDroid | Guys may we please not talk about this |
11:54.36 | ImpyDroid | I suppose you could |
11:55.03 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: These ones were ironic though |
11:55.09 | ImpyDroid | I remember him explaining it to me |
11:55.24 | Hachiman | It reflected in his unironic fiction as well though |
11:55.29 | Hachiman | Why are you so sensitive about the wiki's punching bag hur |
11:56.05 | ImpyDroid | He was my friend once, you know |
11:56.09 | Hachiman | He kinda earned this with how vile and ignorant he became towards everyone else |
11:56.14 | ImpyDroid | We were very close |
11:56.39 | ImpyDroid | Also, he might have been very, very stupid, but at least he hurt less people |
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11:57.29 | Liquid_Ink_ | What did I miss? I got Irsk hating conservation and arguing with Monet last |
11:57.51 | Hachiman | [12:54] <Hachiman> To the point that he wrote a faction of aliens whose purpose was dedicated to eradicating nature across worlds and turning them into planet-sized industrial facilities |
11:57.59 | ImpyDroid | We too were frankly too hostile towards him, with Monet being almost ridiculously aggressive |
11:58.22 | ImpyDroid | It was not even about him being annoying, Mon actively tried to change his worldview, CONSTANTLY |
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11:58.27 | Hachiman | I'm not saying Monet's in the clear but Irsk is very far from faultless |
11:58.32 | ImpyDroid | Of course |
11:58.35 | ImpyDroid | But who here is? |
11:58.39 | Hachiman | Me |
11:58.44 | Hachiman | I am absolutely perfect |
11:58.44 | ImpyDroid | I hate you |
11:58.48 | ImpyDroid | I hate yoy |
11:58.50 | ImpyDroid | *you |
11:59.14 | Ghelae | He had lots of discussions about nature with me, primarily in the form of RPs between the Dark Purger and Apalos, with Apalos continually pointing out how TDP's ideas were unworkable. |
11:59.33 | Wormydroid_ | But yeah bombing from orbit is restricted to very few aims |
11:59.42 | ImpyDroid | Sure he is far more stupid than most people here, but hardly much morally worse |
11:59.55 | Ghelae | Although, strangely, one of his ideas - pump waste heat away via portal to allow an ecumenopolis to work - is now canon. |
12:00.12 | Wormydroid_ | And extremely wasteful unless you want to exterminate yoyr enemy with complete paranoia |
12:00.27 | Gaseous_Ink | I think advocating ecocide constitutes "morally worse" |
12:00.28 | Hachiman | That was his idea? |
12:00.34 | Hachiman | Aye |
12:00.50 | ImpyDroid | Towards people |
12:00.56 | ImpyDroid | Towards fellow users |
12:01.01 | ImpyDroid | You get what I am saying |
12:01.24 | Hachiman | I mean, his posts on DA are filled with shots towards users at SW |
12:01.32 | Hachiman | So, your point is kinda moot there |
12:01.42 | Wormydroid_ | I think Irsk wanted to make a point, but didn't think about the wider picture. So much of the sporewikiverse is unrealistic anyway, but its all about good narrative |
12:01.43 | ImpyDroid | I am not saying he is good |
12:01.54 | ImpyDroid | Merely that he is as bad as most of us |
12:02.03 | ImpyDroid | Me, you and Monet at the very least |
12:02.06 | ImpyDroid | Wormy is better |
12:02.11 | ImpyDroid | Wormy is a good person |
12:02.24 | ImpyDroid | But he is more like an exception hur |
12:02.28 | Hachiman | I'll admit that there is stuff in my comment that is unnecessary but it's just kind of the way I am |
12:02.32 | Wormydroid_ | I can be bad |
12:02.35 | ImpyDroid | So that is the way he is |
12:02.39 | Gaseous_Ink | Ghelae is the soul of innocence. |
12:02.41 | ImpyDroid | What is the difference? |
12:03.01 | Wormydroid_ | I laughed at domestic violence in Trainspotting 2 ladt night |
12:03.09 | Hachiman | Difference is I'm not a dumb retard who fires shots and doesn't expect to get a response back |
12:03.12 | Gaseous_Ink | You were drunk |
12:03.25 | ImpyDroid | Exactly, he is an idiot |
12:03.44 | ImpyDroid | Do not fucking stoop down to his level, I hate you but I know you are at the very least intelligent |
12:03.54 | Hachiman | Gaseous_Ink: Alcohol isn't a mind changer, it's a mind liberator |
12:04.15 | Wormydroid_ | What's all thus anger "I hate you"etc |
12:04.16 | Gaseous_Ink | Hmm. |
12:04.17 | Hachiman | Wormy must have clearly found domestic violence funny beforehand if he was laughing at it while drunk :p |
12:04.46 | Wormydroid_ | Irskaad is still causing disruption here it seems. He has acrually achieved at jabbing us |
12:04.58 | Gaseous_Ink | That's just societal conditioning. He knows that domestic violence is wrong, or he wouldn't have offered as an example of his immorality. |
12:05.05 | Hachiman | Trye |
12:05.07 | Hachiman | True* |
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12:05.41 | Imperios | Actually, do whatever you want, disregard what I said |
12:05.48 | Imperios | I am not the one to judge oo, I am a fucking idiot as well hur |
12:05.54 | Imperios | *too |
12:06.07 | Hachiman | Just consider that when he jabs at SW, he jabs at you too |
12:06.28 | Wormydroid_ | I found it to be a funny scene. This father comes bwck from prison, tried to get his son to smuggle drugs, but his son wanted to study being a hotel manager and refysed. His father saud "you are no son of mibe or Id be dead with a hole in my chest" |
12:06.34 | Hachiman | He was not discriminating; if he was, he very clearly would have made note of it |
12:06.42 | Imperios | As I said, he's an idiot |
12:08.06 | Imperios | But, yeah fair point |
12:09.53 | Wormydroid_ | Actually I wasn't good or mice to Irskaad |
12:10.35 | Wormydroid_ | I ended up criticising him every day in some manner or another |
12:10.53 | Hachiman | Not like it was undeserved though |
12:11.07 | Hachiman | He usually came out with something stupid that deserved some criticism |
12:11.14 | Wormydroid_ | Yeah, but I think his opinions unnerved me a great deal |
12:11.27 | Wormydroid_ | As wrll as his stubborness |
12:12.04 | Wormydroid_ | But I was probably a bit mean and ended up goading him |
12:12.07 | Hachiman | When he posts on something public like the IRC, he is opening himself up to have his views criticized by others |
12:12.54 | Wormydroid_ | It was not a nice time for sporewiki when he became somewhat outcast, not that helped itt |
12:13.13 | Wormydroid_ | But I feel like it didn't have to go that way |
12:14.41 | Wormydroid_ | This whole issue must be a deep scar |
12:14.53 | Hachiman | I'd say that things happen for a reason, but I believe that philosophy is bullshit so |
12:15.02 | Wormydroid_ | Because we're still feeling its effects |
12:15.17 | Hachiman | Still feeling its effects and laughing at them |
12:15.30 | Hachiman | Like I said, this happened because of stuff he did |
12:15.44 | Wormydroid_ | Philosophy ain't bullshit, but there is very little good philosophy |
12:16.04 | Hachiman | Some of us aren't faultless in what happened, but it would not have happened if not for Irsk acting the way he did about the stuff he felt |
12:16.37 | Wormydroid_ | Yes, and he played out this character |
12:17.07 | Wormydroid_ | I remember doibg the same when I was in school |
12:17.20 | Imperios | Speaking of idiots, look at the comments to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwUwGJrE4mI |
12:17.33 | Imperios | The song is about Jerusalem in a spiritual sense |
12:17.48 | Imperios | The comments are all /pol/acks whining about taking over the actual physical Jerusalem |
12:17.48 | Wormydroid_ | I knew wveryone hated my guts, so I didn't ignore or try to improve my image. I played the fool and fed off it |
12:17.51 | Hachiman | DEUS VULT |
12:17.58 | Imperios | ^ See another one |
12:18.29 | Imperios | William Blake wrote that England is in itself a second Jerusalem, and that its beauty must be preserved |
12:18.42 | Imperios | These guys just want to kill some Muslims |
12:18.47 | Hachiman | William Blake must have been high |
12:19.07 | Imperios | He was insane |
12:19.20 | Hachiman | That explains it |
12:19.25 | Imperios | He was literally confined in a mental asylum for half of his life |
12:20.05 | Wormydroid_ | People have believed Jesus walked in England and the golden chalice or whatever its name is resides here, this perception has been since Saxon times |
12:20.20 | Imperios | Jesus the Brit |
12:20.26 | Hachiman | And let's not forget Mormon Jesus |
12:20.36 | Hachiman | THERE IS A SON OF GOD AND HE WAS AMERICAN |
12:20.45 | Ghelae | Wormydroid_: Did you just forget the name of the Holy Grail? |
12:20.51 | Wormydroid_ | Yes |
12:21.21 | Wormydroid_ | Some believe the Ark of the Covenant is hidden in England as well |
12:22.05 | Hachiman | There's actually a manga I read once about a fictional horse race across the United States funded by the American government as a cover-up to allow the fictional President of the time to search for the remains of Jesus Christ across US soil |
12:22.14 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: Ark actually filled with marmite |
12:22.22 | Wormydroid_ | Tasty |
12:22.50 | Imperios | Marmite tastes like thick soy sauce |
12:23.11 | Wormydroid_ | Do you love it or do ypu hate it? |
12:23.18 | Hachiman | With the main protagonist being one contestant in this horse race who is an ex-jockey that lost the use of his legs after being shot in the spine, so when he hears about Jesus' corpse parts, he decides to look for them to undo the damage via miracle |
12:23.24 | Gaseous_Ink | Certainly inferior to vegemite. |
12:23.47 | Wormydroid_ | Vegemite is saltier but less delicious or unami |
12:23.59 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: I just... liked it |
12:24.02 | Imperios | It was not bad |
12:24.15 | Imperios | What is the difference between marmite and vegimite? |
12:24.20 | Imperios | Other than the country of origin |
12:24.22 | Wormydroid_ | I like marmite in soup |
12:24.57 | Wormydroid_ | Hachi that manga sounds really bizzare |
12:25.14 | Hachiman | Funnily enough, it's called JoJo's Bizarre Adventure hur |
12:25.31 | Imperios | AYAYAYAYAYAAAAAA |
12:25.56 | Imperios | Jesus Christ found buried in America, his first words after he wakes up: |
12:26.06 | Imperios | "About fucking time, I have so many things to complain about." |
12:26.30 | Hachiman | The main protagonist can shoot his nails as a special ability while the President has the ability to interact with other versions of himself in neighbouring timelines / universes |
12:26.34 | Wormydroid_ | Vegemite is a ripoff imo |
12:26.59 | Wormydroid_ | Ripoffs don't get in first place they don't deserve it |
12:28.27 | Hachiman | Oh and there's also a guy who can turn himself and other animals / people into dinosaurs |
12:28.29 | Wormydroid_ | Hah |
12:28.35 | Wormydroid_ | I win |
12:30.18 | Wormydroid_ | Sounds like a soul walker |
12:31.13 | Hachiman | A what now? |
12:31.45 | Wormydroid_ | A person who can become or transfer their soul into animals |
12:31.59 | Hachiman | Ah |
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12:32.15 | Hachiman | It works more like kind of a zombie virus in function |
12:32.19 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
12:32.19 | Wormydroid_ | Wb |
12:32.24 | Hachiman | Except instead of a zombie, you become a dinosaur |
12:32.50 | Wormydroid_ | That's all the more awesome |
12:33.35 | Hachiman | There's a cool scene where the guy turns his horse into some sort of dinosaur in order to get an advantage over the other racers and climb a cliff face |
12:33.57 | Hachiman | And he also turns his horse's mites into small dinosaurs to attack the main character's horse |
12:34.26 | Wormydroid_ | I'm strughling to fathom how this becomes a consistent storyline of horse racing, presidents and dinosaur plague carrying people searching for Jesus |
12:34.56 | Hachiman | It's... really bizarre when explained like that, but the plot is actually fairly consistent kinda |
12:36.10 | Wormydroid_ | Its a but like my dreams |
12:36.57 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0SMMY1pbOU |
12:37.46 | Hachiman | You think that's strange? There are minor antagonists who can do stuff like turn anything - including solid objects and substances such as liquids and gases - into pinned bombs and make bloodhounds out of balloon dogs |
12:38.16 | Hachiman | And also another guy who uses an ancient Native American running technique to rival the horses in the competition, with his special ability being that he can basically weaponize sound effects |
12:38.40 | Wormydroid_ | Very strange |
12:39.00 | Hachiman | Jesus' corpse is the reason why all that happens by the way; his corpse parts carry magical abilities |
12:39.07 | Wormydroid_ | Imperios My mother met East Germans who long for socialism to come back |
12:39.20 | Imperios | That's normal over the whole post-Soviet world |
12:39.42 | Imperios | Poles, Czechs and Balts are the exception, they mostly detest it |
12:39.52 | Wormydroid_ | Okay now it makes s slightly more sense |
12:40.16 | Imperios | Wait |
12:40.16 | Wormydroid_ | To Hachi |
12:40.18 | Imperios | Jesus's corpse |
12:40.19 | Imperios | Wait what |
12:40.21 | Imperios | What the |
12:40.26 | Imperios | How |
12:40.30 | Hachiman | In the manga, Mormon Jesus is canon |
12:40.43 | Liquid_Ink | Proper, Karl Marx, socialism, or the Soviet pseudo-fascistic variation? |
12:41.23 | Hachiman | He came over to the US after rising back from death, interacted with the ancient native Americans, lived among them and died; after being buried, an earthquake happened which divided his body and caused it to be separated across the US |
12:41.24 | Wormydroid_ | Whatever East Germany had |
12:42.07 | Wormydroid_ | Liquid I thought Marx was the origin of socialism thus is the proper one |
12:42.15 | Hachiman | The President plans to get all of his surviving parts and bring them together in order benefit the US via using Jesus' miraculous abilities for the good of America |
12:42.19 | Liquid_Ink | That's what I said |
12:42.25 | Wormydroid_ | Right |
12:42.34 | Liquid_Ink | "Proper, Karl Marx, socialism..." |
12:42.44 | Wormydroid_ | The commas threw me |
12:43.02 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah, it wasn't a well structured sentence |
12:44.35 | Hachiman | Imperios: There's also an Italian guy who uses a pair of perfectly round steel balls to generate energy in order to heal / hurt people through manipulating their muscles and organs after fucking throwing them |
12:48.28 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: I think Ink believes that the Soviet Union and countries which imitated them perverted socialism, making it more authoritarian |
12:48.39 | Imperios | Which makes sense, Marx was not as authoritarian after all |
12:50.37 | Liquid_Ink | If a man calls himself a pacifist, then beats the shit out of someone, is this a reflection on pacifism or is the man a liar? |
12:50.55 | Hachiman | Hm |
12:51.03 | Liquid_Ink | I do not recognise Stalin as a socialist, but a fascist jumping up and down calling himself a socialist. |
12:51.43 | Hachiman | Yeah I don't recall finding Stalin a very convincing reflection of socialism |
12:51.47 | Wormydroid_ | Stalinists beleived the authority if the state could revolutionise the prols |
12:51.59 | Wormydroid_ | Or something like that |
12:52.23 | Wormydroid_ | But if course it meant Stalin coukd postpone it indefinitely |
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12:53.32 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
12:53.38 | Wormydroid_ | Because the prols were too incapable of causing revolution themselves |
12:53.53 | Wormydroid_ | Hi |
12:54.10 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
12:54.26 | Ghelae | Hi |
12:55.12 | Hachiman | You stumbled onto political chat |
12:55.39 | OluapPlayer | So I stumbled into the sporewiki irc |
12:56.13 | Hachiman | olol |
12:57.01 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: Stalin was the one who gradually shifted the Soviet Union into a less international state, and more into a nation-state |
12:57.39 | Liquid_Ink | I'm heading to bed now |
12:57.42 | Liquid_Ink | Goodnight |
12:57.43 | Imperios | Politics-wise, he believed that strengthening the power of the state was the only way towards communism |
12:57.45 | Imperios | Something like |
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12:58.54 | Imperios | The idea was something like "the state grows extremely strong and then reaches some sort of pinnacle where it collapses as it is no longer needed" |
12:59.19 | Imperios | Overall, Stalin was a pragmatist, he did not take ideology as seriously other than an instrument of power |
13:02.01 | Wormydroid_ | Do you think it would have possible for Maoist China and Stalinist Soviet union to have merged into a pan eurasian state? |
13:02.37 | Imperios | Nah, too proud to coexist |
13:02.52 | Imperios | Maybe if pushed to the brink and weakened, they could band together, like France and Germany did |
13:03.18 | Wormydroid_ | Yeah |
13:03.27 | Hachiman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bocce_volo >Italians throw steel balls at each other as a game |
13:03.39 | Hachiman | What the fuck, I thought that was just a thing in that manga I mentioned |
13:04.27 | Imperios | BALLS OF STEEL |
13:05.48 | Hachiman | So yeah, one character in that Jesus manga uses a weaponized variant of Italian Boules as his primary means of combat |
13:06.03 | OluapPlayer | bollocks |
13:06.05 | Hachiman | He also spins the balls as he throws them to generate energy through gyration / spin |
13:07.42 | Hachiman | Imperios: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17265008_434233946916386_6685173377273876561_n.png?oh=c2cbd358bba40a8d870f43a2c0d12f1d&oe=59282790 |
13:08.00 | Imperios | Hachiman: Mace Windu is gay |
13:08.01 | Imperios | canon now |
13:13.51 | Wormydroid_ | Hachiman he replied to you |
13:13.58 | Hachiman | So he has |
13:14.04 | Wormydroid_ | Fiessty one |
13:14.04 | Hachiman | I'm taking time to compose a response |
13:14.57 | Hachiman | I'm not interested in an argument, but two things; 1) addressing his point about 'robots' and 2) dropping a fucking siiick roast |
13:15.10 | Wormydroid_ | It turns out I can access deviant art from my relatives network provider, so I might add a comment |
13:16.25 | Hachiman | I am curious that he holds Oluap responsible for his MOBA addiction |
13:16.34 | Hachiman | And basically the stuff that made him waste an amount of his life away |
13:18.22 | OluapPlayer | I'm not to blame if you have no control over your actions |
13:19.21 | Hachiman | Apparently I once told a furry to burn herself |
13:19.25 | Hachiman | Wouldn't be surprised if I did tbh |
13:19.34 | Hachiman | And I'd probably not feel bad about it |
13:21.38 | OluapPlayer | very good and mature u sure showed her friendo |
13:22.47 | Ghelae | I remember that incident. It was solely Catface, with Imp peer-pressured into giving him support. |
13:24.06 | Hachiman | Wait that was an incident here |
13:24.28 | Hachiman | Did I actually say that or |
13:24.53 | Ghelae | You weren't involved. |
13:25.33 | Ghelae | It seems Irsk used the word "you" to refer to our community in general, rather than you personally. |
13:25.38 | Hachiman | Right |
13:26.49 | Ghelae | Basically, Catface wasn't being serious, but the new user understandably wasn't aware of this and thought he was genuinely telling her to self-immolate. |
13:27.20 | Hachiman | And then she proceeded to self-immolate |
13:27.45 | Ghelae | For all I know, she may well have done. |
13:27.53 | OluapPlayer | I think I recall this incident |
13:27.53 | Wormydroid_ | She came back 2 years later and all was forgoven |
13:28.15 | OluapPlayer | I wouldn't remember specifics but people did act very creepily towards her |
13:28.39 | Wormydroid_ | Actually I thought it was a bit mean |
13:28.46 | OluapPlayer | It was quite mean |
13:29.41 | Wormydroid_ | But bringing ut up now is beating a dead horse |
13:29.51 | Wormydroid_ | We learned from it |
13:30.05 | OluapPlayer | Yeah. You talked to her and solved it all iirc |
13:30.17 | OluapPlayer | Half-inactive half-savior of the wiki |
13:30.32 | Wormydroid_ | Yeah all is forgiven and it turns out she is a Xeelee fan |
13:32.12 | Wormydroid_ | I'm goibg to have some lubch and then try to talk sense to Irsk |
13:32.54 | OluapPlayer | I don't think you're gonna get anything by giving Irsk attention. You're just gonna prod old wounds |
13:33.21 | Imperios | I'm just going to ignore all this |
13:34.53 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVWnRt9BarU I found a very interesting German version of God Save the Queen |
13:35.14 | Imperios | > [16:19:21] <Hachiman> Apparently I once told a furry to burn herself |
13:35.16 | Imperios | Well that is true |
13:35.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: You're like Blade hur |
13:35.43 | Hachiman | hur |
13:36.02 | Imperios | Or Bloodrayne or something |
13:36.04 | Hachiman | I mean, I fucking love Blade so |
13:36.55 | Imperios | The whole situation with PukingRainbows was honestly quite sad and full of misunderstanding |
13:37.06 | Imperios | She drew Tyraz and Iovera too once, lemme find it |
13:37.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://www.weasyl.com/~pukingrainbow/submissions/94102/asdruabel-request-complete |
13:37.56 | Imperios | There |
13:38.03 | Imperios | Wait |
13:38.08 | Imperios | Tyraz towering over Iovera |
13:38.23 | Hachiman | kek |
13:38.24 | Imperios | Is there a ladder somewhere beneath the drawing |
13:38.35 | OluapPlayer | Hey I remember that pic |
13:38.37 | Hachiman | Also, Weasyl; long time since I heard of that site |
13:38.49 | Imperios | Wormydroid_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukbVzMSgnsk Found another one, it's like an evil Nazi version of God Save the Queen |
13:38.51 | OluapPlayer | Tyraz looks horrifying |
13:39.04 | OluapPlayer | His face looks like it's filled with tumours hur |
13:39.18 | Imperios | It makes sense though |
13:39.38 | Hachiman | There's no real way to make a Descended dragon man look dashing or handsome |
13:39.41 | OluapPlayer | Iovera - we CAN do the thing, but you'll have to wear this plastic bag over your head |
13:40.34 | Imperios | ALL the things that happened underneath the Ecclesial Palace |
13:40.53 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I just got reminded of one quest, I think you said you skipped the region so you may have missed |
13:40.59 | Imperios | Hm? |
13:41.21 | OluapPlayer | You need to disguise yourself as a member of the Blackrock clan. And to do it, you make a disguise which's basically just a paper mask |
13:41.28 | OluapPlayer | The orcs, trolls and ogres are all fooled |
13:42.02 | OluapPlayer | So I was a dwarf wearing a paper mask of an orc, and all the orcs thought I was one of their own |
13:42.16 | Imperios | topkek |
13:43.41 | Imperios | Admittedly many Old Horde orcs, especially Blackrock, were literally forcefully grown children |
13:44.36 | Imperios | So they can be forgiven for being pretty dim |
13:44.51 | OluapPlayer | No excuse for the trolls though |
13:45.48 | OluapPlayer | There was another quest where you're given a bat-like item and you need to beat some orcs up with it to discipline them |
13:45.58 | OluapPlayer | It makes a super cartoony "bonk" noise every time you use it |
13:46.59 | Imperios | >bonk |
13:47.16 | Imperios | Scout orc hur |
13:47.17 | OluapPlayer | tf2scoutetic |
13:47.37 | OluapPlayer | Some of the orcs start to realize you might not actually be an orc |
13:47.41 | OluapPlayer | So you need to bonk them to death |
13:48.48 | OluapPlayer | In another quest you need to assassinate 3 Blackrock members, one of them is an ogre you need to push into the magma. He constantly moves between two pools of magma just to check how hot they are |
13:49.07 | OluapPlayer | The place is rather silly now that I think about it |
13:50.50 | Imperios | I should check it next time I level a character |
13:53.31 | Wormydroid_ | Imperios I'll listen to them on a bit |
14:25.52 | Technobliterator | If it weren't for Zelda, I would call Horizon Zero Dawn Game of the Year right now |
14:26.11 | Technobliterator | HZD is an amazing game, and even though I love it, probably better than Mass Effect Andromeda will be |
14:27.23 | OluapPlayer | Mass Effect Andromeda isn't gonna be anywhere near the level of Zelda and Horizon, with its janky animation and dumb-looking Shrek faces |
14:28.01 | Technobliterator | Yeah, but the thing is |
14:28.07 | Imperios | Hachiman DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqx9vyE2tkc Wow |
14:28.14 | Technobliterator | I was expecting Horizon Zero Dawn to have better gameplay but Mass Effect Andromeda to have better story |
14:28.22 | Technobliterator | Now, I'm thinking Horizon Zero Dawn has better both |
14:28.35 | Technobliterator | I really want to try Zelda though |
14:28.45 | Technobliterator | Also, Imperios, daily Borealis War reminder :V |
14:28.58 | Imperios | Oh yeah |
14:29.00 | OluapPlayer | GOTY contenders this year will be Zelda, Horizon and perhaps Nier: Automata and Middle-earth Shadow of War |
14:29.07 | Technobliterator | mhm |
14:29.15 | Technobliterator | Middle-earth Shadow of War intrigues me |
14:29.21 | OluapPlayer | Though I think Nier is a bit too niche |
14:29.27 | Technobliterator | I don't know if I'll get it because of how many games I have to get this year :| |
14:29.31 | Technobliterator | but it looks so neat |
14:29.42 | OluapPlayer | I definitely recommend you play the first game |
14:29.46 | OluapPlayer | Middle-earth Shadow of Mordor |
14:30.25 | OluapPlayer | pretty good game that one |
14:30.33 | Technobliterator | I played it at my friend's house and really enjoyed it |
14:30.44 | Technobliterator | Until recently, I was kind of sick of open world games, so I didn't get it |
14:30.49 | Technobliterator | but FFXV and HZD changed my mind |
14:31.07 | OluapPlayer | This year seems to be the one where open world games are getting revitalized |
14:31.16 | Technobliterator | Yup |
14:31.33 | Technobliterator | Well, FFXV was the first open world game in a while I'd enjoyed, but I'd say HZD is a better game |
14:31.43 | Technobliterator | and BotW is probably better as well |
14:32.44 | Hachiman | BotW's story is probably better than FFXV |
14:32.52 | Hachiman | I... honestly didn't get Ardyn, really |
14:32.59 | OluapPlayer | My personal GOTY will definitely be Shadow of War, I can actually play that hur |
14:33.16 | Technobliterator | FFXV's story was told very poorly |
14:33.20 | Technobliterator | but it was a good story |
14:33.52 | Technobliterator | I did really like Ardyn, probably the best villain in the series since Kefka |
14:34.03 | Technobliterator | however, I can say so far that Horizon Zero Dawn's story is better |
14:34.08 | Hachiman | I mean |
14:34.15 | Hachiman | Ardyn's a charismatic villain sure |
14:34.23 | Hachiman | And his backstory is very interesting |
14:34.26 | Hachiman | As is his endgame |
14:35.15 | Hachiman | But aside from the initial execution of his final boss battle, which I really enjoyed, the part where him and Noctis face one another within the ring and it's not even really a battle just kinda sucked for me |
14:35.25 | Technobliterator | Oh, right |
14:35.27 | Technobliterator | I agree with you there |
14:35.38 | Technobliterator | This is another example of the game having a troubled development |
14:35.44 | Technobliterator | and it's very apparent when you play it |
14:36.05 | Technobliterator | with how poorly told/rushed some parts of the story feel, as opposed to other parts which are just amazing |
14:36.15 | Technobliterator | Horizon Zero Dawn (and probably Zelda) are much more consistent |
14:36.27 | Hachiman | Like, come on; FFXIII's final boss battle is far more epic and grand scale |
14:36.43 | Hachiman | That is, FFXIII-3 |
14:37.12 | Technobliterator | Mhm |
14:37.22 | Technobliterator | But none come close to FFVI's final boss imo |
14:37.32 | Hachiman | I think what FFXV has going for it mostly is how it handles its characters |
14:37.44 | Hachiman | Each character is very memorable and very well-defined |
14:37.54 | Hachiman | I even liked Noctis when I actually expected to hate him |
14:38.19 | Technobliterator | Absolutely |
14:38.27 | Technobliterator | I expected to loathe him too |
14:38.34 | Imperios | https://2ch.hk/po/src/21238459/14888946014732.webm |
14:41.37 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21238459/14888948387350.webm |
14:42.27 | Hachiman | Oh God |
14:42.59 | Technobliterator | also, before I go back to practicals, reminder to Hachiman also about Borealis War |
14:43.02 | Technobliterator | :V |
14:43.19 | Hachiman | Reminder to Jo also about sandwich in the kitchen |
14:43.25 | Technobliterator | never |
14:43.52 | Hachiman | What do I even need to write hur |
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14:44.22 | Wormy_ | Hachiman http://irskaad.deviantart.com/journal/Learn-Something-Sporewiki-History-Channel-FTW-668650003#comments |
14:44.26 | Wormy_ | Made one |
14:44.46 | Technobliterator | 2-3 paragraphs of your dudes reacting to the War Economy situation |
14:44.53 | OluapPlayer | He has no dudes to react with |
14:45.13 | Technobliterator | saying either that it sucks and they want to get involved or that they've given up on helping it and hope it doesn't come to andromeda |
14:45.14 | Technobliterator | and whatnot |
14:45.17 | OluapPlayer | His only character in the war is Hachi |
14:46.26 | Hachiman | "What's an economy lol eep eep" |
14:47.18 | Hachiman | By the way Wormy_ |
14:47.24 | Hachiman | Did you get the chance to see the new Samurai Jack ep |
14:47.30 | Hachiman | It's REALLY good |
14:47.53 | Wormy_ | I didn't, where is it being shown? |
14:48.04 | Technobliterator | I kind of figured even those who aren't fighting/haven't fought yet could give commentary |
14:48.12 | Wormy_ | But I'm glad to hear it is not a disappointment |
14:48.29 | Technobliterator | Though, I'm probably not making it easy for people to understand what I want when I don't have a template for the section or something |
14:48.50 | Technobliterator | like just a few sentences and then [INSERT YOUR PARAGRAPHS HERE] |
14:48.55 | Hachiman | There was a YouTube vid up but it got blocked |
14:49.05 | Hachiman | It's almost exactly like the old show though |
14:49.14 | Technobliterator | I will add one when I get back |
14:49.26 | Hachiman | Some moments really took me off guard with how disturbing and sudden they were but they weren't unnecessarily edgy |
14:49.40 | Hachiman | And the show still has lighthearted elements too, which is great |
14:50.23 | Imperios | Hachiman Wormy_: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21238459/14889064366911.webm |
14:50.53 | Wormy_ | bizzare |
14:51.01 | Wormy_ | well, not really |
14:51.31 | Hachiman | olol |
14:52.11 | Wormy_ | I'm glad Samurai Jack remains so far a masterful synthesis of emotional discord |
14:52.38 | Hachiman | The action is enhanced and the music is just as good as before |
14:52.43 | Hachiman | And the fights are equally creative |
14:54.00 | OluapPlayer | [muffled FOOLISH SAMURAI in the distance] |
14:55.10 | Hachiman | Hm not sure where to find the ep |
14:55.24 | Hachiman | There are clips all over the place but not the full ep that isn't blocked |
14:59.50 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21238459/14890590389670.webm |
14:59.55 | Imperios | OluapPlayer too |
15:00.52 | Hachiman | olol |
15:00.59 | OluapPlayer | Cheeki Breeki's Amazing Adventure |
15:04.00 | Hachiman | Also Imp you still didn't answer my question from yesterday |
15:06.25 | OluapPlayer | https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/new-images-of-saturns-walnut-shaped-moon-dazzle-scientists/ Saturn's amazing popcorn moon |
15:06.51 | Imperios | Which one? |
15:24.22 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: ...a beautiful morning coding, where I managed to get build errors from a file I deleted. >.> |
15:24.46 | Wormy_ | Huh |
15:25.52 | Tek0516 | Which I deleted because it was giving me build errors on a part of the code I commented out. >.> |
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15:27.55 | Jepardi | Hi |
15:31.16 | Wormy_ | Code works in mysterious ways |
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15:47.24 | drom | Wormy_: Why not get an armfull of floof while you can? https://i.imgur.com/Mvq1gif.jpg |
15:52.07 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: I don't know why but with this thing the build doesn't detect resources until you've built them. So with the perfectly valid code I copied in I had to make a working version with none of the references to build it and actually use the references. >.> |
15:57.40 | drom | Tek0516: #JustJavaThings? |
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15:57.52 | Tek0516 | Nah, not Java |
15:58.09 | Tek0516 | WPF/C# using Visual Studio |
15:58.48 | Wormy_ | Sounds like a pain to build and test |
15:58.54 | Tek0516 | ...also the UI is throwing exceptions at design time bjt running fine at runtime. |
15:59.02 | dino82_ | hi |
15:59.19 | Wormy_ | Hm, I remember my programming lecturer saying something about this |
15:59.20 | Tek0516 | Hi |
15:59.57 | Wormy_ | As the reason he taught us Python |
16:00.06 | Tek0516 | Well my usual approach of restarting Visual Studio after wierd things happen seemed to work. |
16:00.28 | Wormy_ | Which is useless to me since I;m having to learn Java for Anylogic and R |
16:00.54 | Tek0516 | Unfortunately this is a job so I don't get to pick my tools. :P |
16:01.01 | Wormy_ | Right |
16:01.26 | drom | Oh, ha |
16:01.29 | Wormy_ | Are you still at uni? |
16:02.51 | drom | Things like this makes me wonder if I'll be using exclusively CMake and G++ (GCC compiler for C++) when I'm off working at somewhere |
16:19.33 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39254974 |
16:33.51 | Wormy_ | ooh I suddenley feel all light and shaky |
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16:40.22 | NeonPanda | hi all |
17:00.20 | Wormy_ | Tek0516 its great to do work lying on one's back |
17:04.07 | Wormy_ | my uni has large beanie bags to sit on and freeb pizza |
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17:14.17 | Hachiman | Internet went out earlier |
17:14.20 | Hachiman | Imperios: Is there anything about the setting of Koldenwelt which makes it stand out from other fantasy worlds in media, or do you feel it's mostly uninspired and whatnot |
17:14.49 | Imperios | The elemental energies perhaps, but overall no it lacks a real "schtick" |
17:15.09 | Imperios | That does not mean it is uninspired, but if it were a book it'd need to be somehow inspiring |
17:16.21 | Hachiman | Mind lending some demonstrations of "schticks" for other fantasy / sci-fi settings? |
17:16.40 | Hachiman | *from, rather |
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17:21.30 | Treebeard | Hello |
17:23.46 | Hachiman | Hi |
17:25.22 | dino82_ | hi |
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17:33.25 | Xho | reeeeeeeeeeeeee |
17:34.03 | Wormy_ | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer |
17:34.58 | dino82_ | :D |
17:38.24 | Xho | Man |
17:38.29 | Xho | internet game is weak |
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17:40.28 | Xho | fucking wireless cunt |
17:40.28 | Xho | So act like it |
17:40.28 | Xho | Yeah ok you're connected |
17:40.28 | Xho | Actually there is no internet game whatsoever |
17:40.51 | Xho | Literally this is the only working window |
17:40.52 | Xho | Hi |
17:42.24 | Hachiman | Hi |
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17:45.09 | Spu | Well that's what I get for shouting at the wifi |
17:46.11 | Spu | Hachiman: Might do a Tale of Championing for Narrasturvaran |
17:46.19 | Hachiman | Nice |
17:47.38 | Hachiman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bocce_volo I wanna see a weaponised form of this in the Fantasy / Fictionverse |
17:47.45 | Spu | I had rought designs for new Heliomancy and Aetheromancy sigils as well |
17:48.07 | Spu | Hachiman: "SUCK BRICK KID" |
17:53.27 | Hachiman | brb dinner |
17:58.03 | Wormy_ | Spu, Hachiman: Suddenly https://www.ukmix.org/proxy.php?code=54d60aa15156ac849d261130396b57efff8453737d58f90309a3985f5aac2299&url=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5iYmMuY28udWsvY3VsdC9pbG92ZS95ZWFycy8xOTkzL2dhbGxlcnkvMzQwL2Jsb2JieS5qcGc%3D |
17:58.40 | Spu | NAH M8 |
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18:01.12 | drom | Spu: Meanwhile I yell at my scrap computer to not consume 10 hours worth of battery charge in one single sitting lasting one or two hours. |
18:02.02 | Spu | lel |
18:09.21 | Spu | Wormy just showed me the post Irsk made on DA |
18:09.30 | Spu | What exactly was the point |
18:09.32 | NeonPanda | so for once I am actually writing fiction |
18:09.54 | NeonPanda | at some point tonight I'll put up the first few paragraphs, more for opinions on the writing style than anything else |
18:10.06 | Spu | checks if hell has frozen over |
18:11.11 | Wormy_ | something to do with robot zergrush |
18:11.56 | Spu | "You will not censor me, I will continue to write my feelings in these journals. If you don't like it, block and unwatch. Do I look like I care?" |
18:12.07 | Spu | You do realise if we all blocked and unwatched his venting would be worthless |
18:12.21 | NeonPanda | I mean it'd still make him feel good |
18:12.39 | Wormy_ | It worked though |
18:12.49 | Wormy_ | It does stir us none-the-less |
18:13.49 | Spu | "What I meant is that I was inexperient at my sporewiki days, and I now write much better, makes sense?" |
18:13.56 | Spu | Take a breath and read that again |
18:14.54 | Spu | Couldn't resist that one |
18:15.23 | DrodoEmpire | test |
18:19.24 | Spu | "Already did. I don't see the problem." |
18:25.10 | dino82_ | :d |
18:29.18 | NeonPanda | so it's not exactly going to be a part of the existing fantasy universe cos *insert blep,* but we'll see how the story goes |
18:29.37 | Spu | Basically I read that as 'fuck the fantasyverse lol' |
18:29.43 | Spu | Fair enough, I hate everything |
18:29.44 | NeonPanda | to an extent |
18:30.01 | NeonPanda | I don't hate it, it's just some of the underlying foundation doesn't gel with me that well |
18:30.12 | Spu | lemme guess |
18:30.13 | Spu | sand magic |
18:30.15 | Hachiman | He's not fond of how magic works |
18:30.18 | Spu | c |
18:30.39 | NeonPanda | magic, the fundamental powers, cosmology, a lot of it really |
18:30.44 | Spu | I think the insular lore between myself, Hachi, Oluap and Imperios needs to be broken down |
18:30.49 | Spu | It's quite exclusive |
18:30.52 | Hachiman | In general he just doesn't like Koldenwelt as a setting so |
18:30.55 | Imperios | Nah |
18:31.01 | Hachiman | It's not that it's exclusive |
18:31.14 | Imperios | Koldenwelt is good as it is, that there are few people there is good |
18:31.14 | NeonPanda | the magic is the part that narks me but hte rest of it also makes it somewhat difficult to do the kinds of things I like to do |
18:31.15 | Hachiman | It's that no one else actually bothers to have a fucking say with it or join in |
18:31.30 | Spu | NeonPanda: You should explain it |
18:31.39 | Hachiman | Instead they just fucking keep to themselves and disregard the hard work everyone else is doing for the setting |
18:31.50 | Hachiman | Like fucking Gorzill and his shit pit lot |
18:31.55 | Spu | That's one way of seeing it I guess |
18:32.22 | Spu | I'd consider myself more on the periphery than before since I don't really do stories |
18:32.26 | Hachiman | Sorry I'm just in a foul mood |
18:32.30 | Spu | Except the occasional ToC |
18:32.31 | Hachiman | I'll brb |
18:33.39 | NeonPanda | was about to say, little rude considering you yourself admitted that there's some tings you'd like to change that are to embedded to change |
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18:34.26 | Hachiman | It's not you Panda and I wasn't referring to you |
18:34.38 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
18:35.21 | Spu | Talking to me I think |
18:35.22 | Spu | Hi |
18:36.00 | Hachiman | No |
18:36.05 | Hachiman | I just said who I was referring to |
18:36.20 | Spu | No I meant Panda was talking to me there |
18:36.28 | Spu | I think |
18:36.33 | NeonPanda | no, I was talking to Hachi |
18:36.45 | NeonPanda | we had a long discussion a while back about the magic system when that came up |
18:36.47 | Spu | whistles atonally whilst disappearing into thin air |
18:36.51 | Spu | nv |
18:36.53 | Spu | m |
18:38.51 | Spu | Sorry I was thinking you were referring to that one time I was thinking about what I'd change in the Fantasyverse |
18:39.04 | Spu | To be honest whatever it I was I don't remember |
18:39.31 | Hachiman | No I'm talking about the people who actively put their shit in the Fantasyverse but don't bother to pay attention to the actual rules or foundations of the setting |
18:39.40 | Hachiman | Like Gorzill and his lot |
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18:53.55 | Imperios | What did Gorzill do? |
18:55.47 | Imperios | NeonPanda: What's with the magic system? |
18:58.08 | Spu | It doesn't make much sense apparently |
18:58.21 | Spu | Which I'm inclined to understand |
18:59.41 | Imperios | You could say that |
19:00.20 | Spu | I can't imagine changing it would work now though |
19:00.31 | Spu | I have my own magical system but it's not widely accepted |
19:00.39 | Spu | So I just put it as the 'old way' of thinking |
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19:01.38 | Spu | Imperios Hachiman: I mentioned in Skaurovirn lore that the Sovereignty/Empire of Man managed to compile knowledge of them into multiple codices |
19:01.42 | NeonPanda | Spu: which was basically the endpoint of Hachi and mine's discussion, that it's mostly a stylistic preference but either way at this point it's too late to change even if there is an objectively better way (which there isn't necessarily) |
19:01.42 | Spu | Can that still be canon |
19:01.53 | Imperios | Magical schools? |
19:02.19 | Hachiman | Spu: Don't see why not# |
19:02.26 | DrodoEmpire | http://irskaad.deviantart.com/journal/Learn-Something-Sporewiki-History-Channel-FTW-668650003#comments - posted |
19:02.51 | DrodoEmpire | I tried to break down his argument -really- in depth |
19:03.53 | Spu | DrodoEmpire: I still like my breakdown |
19:04.59 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
19:05.35 | Imperios | Guys |
19:05.39 | Spu | But yeah, military technology bitch |
19:05.44 | Imperios | Must we all gang up on a person |
19:05.47 | Imperios | It's stupid |
19:05.57 | Spu | Hachiman: When exactly did the Sovereignty of Dryada form |
19:06.02 | Imperios | At least one at a time |
19:06.16 | Hachiman | Dunno, can't remember precisely |
19:06.34 | DrodoEmpire | No, I'm not participating in that squabble as it has nothing to do with me |
19:06.42 | NeonPanda | Imperios: to be fair, if that one person is calling out a community, he's accepting that he's going to get a community response |
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19:07.25 | Spu | Hachiman: Logically speaking I'd imagine it was after the downfall of the Adamantine Elves |
19:07.26 | Spu | whenver that was |
19:07.39 | Hachiman | Presumably around or during that time, yeah |
19:08.03 | Spu | They went before the Orichalcum Elves right |
19:08.05 | Spu | Or after |
19:08.12 | Hachiman | Let me heck |
19:08.13 | Hachiman | check |
19:08.19 | Spu | bamboozlin |
19:09.10 | drom | "<Imperios> What did Gorzill do?" |
19:09.23 | drom | You caught my attention, young man |
19:10.19 | drom | Spu: https://i.imgur.com/Mvq1gif.jpg |
19:10.22 | Hachiman | Gorzill sets up fiction with his chums in the Fantasyverse but doesn't pay any attention to the rest of the Fantasyverse community or the rules set, which is why he somehow ended up writing a fiction that can field MUSKETS AND BAYONETS in a roughly Medieval setting |
19:10.38 | Spu | foox |
19:10.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I've tried giving him pointers, which he listened to |
19:10.51 | DrodoEmpire | And actually did a good job |
19:10.57 | Hachiman | And in one thread he and some other user were using, one of them admitted to not knowing what the fucking Source was |
19:11.00 | DrodoEmpire | But maybe I should've looked at other stuff |
19:11.00 | Spu | Hachiman: check dammit |
19:11.14 | Hachiman | You know, THE MAGIC OF THE FUCKING WORLD YOUR FICTION IS SET UP IN RETARD |
19:11.21 | Hachiman | Spu: Can't find |
19:11.22 | Spu | I still don't like calling it Source but I don't have a choice |
19:11.25 | Spu | 0/10 awful |
19:11.30 | Hachiman | Think it was around Adamantine Age, not sure, don't quote me |
19:11.46 | Spu | Alright I'll just say a couple of hundred years ago |
19:11.57 | Hachiman | dats not rite th |
19:11.59 | Hachiman | tho* |
19:12.06 | Spu | I mean for when these codices were written |
19:12.10 | Hachiman | Oh |
19:12.13 | Hachiman | Yeah that's fair |
19:12.16 | drom | I'm still seeing a degree of gunpowder in Fantasyverse though |
19:12.28 | Hachiman | Gunpowder weapons are different to FUCKING MUSKETS |
19:12.34 | Hachiman | WORLD WAR ONE ERA MUSKETS |
19:12.45 | Spu | To be fair ancient civilisations probably had machine guns lol |
19:12.49 | Hachiman | non |
19:12.55 | Spu | Cobalt Kingdom maybe |
19:13.07 | Spu | Orichalcum Elves had...hm |
19:13.10 | Spu | Longinus there we go |
19:13.20 | Spu | Actually not sure |
19:13.35 | Spu | Vague references of dragonriding |
19:15.08 | drom | Hmh... World of Warcraft does kind of have weaponry that are similar to machine guns |
19:15.31 | Hachiman | No |
19:15.34 | Hachiman | This isn't Warcraft |
19:15.37 | Hachiman | This is Koldenwelt |
19:15.48 | Hachiman | Warcraft has fucking shitty spaceships and the like |
19:16.16 | Spu | moon king spaceship get rekt |
19:16.25 | drom | That is why I say WoW lore sucks hur |
19:16.39 | Spu | Not really a spaceship as much as it was a colossal underground prison |
19:16.42 | drom | And I dared, Imperios. I dared. |
19:17.16 | Imperios | Just ignore them |
19:17.55 | drom | No |
19:18.17 | drom | I won't get over the fact they made the Gilnean Liberation a lackbuster |
19:18.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Muskets were hopelessly obsolete by the time of WWI <.< |
19:19.02 | drom | It stays like tinnitus for me |
19:19.09 | DrodoEmpire | But I get what you mean |
19:19.26 | DrodoEmpire | anything above Matchlock or wheellock muskets is too advanced really |
19:20.53 | drom | Speaking of old weapons. The gatling guns from the 1800's fascinate me |
19:21.00 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh yes |
19:21.03 | DrodoEmpire | They were interesting |
19:21.25 | DrodoEmpire | Gatlings saw some deployment but I think it was the Maxim Gun that really saw use |
19:21.28 | NeonPanda | inferior to Puckle Gun |
19:21.31 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
19:21.44 | DrodoEmpire | And it came a bit later as the world's first actual machine gun |
19:22.39 | Hachiman | What interests me is that one old shield that has a compartment to fit a second sword |
19:22.57 | drom | Considering how they were operated. I can not help but amuse myself imagining them as big pepper mills. |
19:23.10 | drom | Point at enemy, wind it up. |
19:23.52 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: How do you feel about double-sided blade weapons? |
19:24.10 | NeonPanda | I'd probably say my favourite weapon, realistically, is the monk's spade |
19:24.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: If you mean something like Darth Maul, then it sounds a bit impractical to me |
19:24.45 | DrodoEmpire | But I'm sure it could be done |
19:25.03 | Hachiman | What about those polearm models with blades either side? |
19:25.37 | DrodoEmpire | Well the thing with that is usually the smaller blade was a counterweight or something to stick into the ground so you didn't need to carry it constantly afaik |
19:25.52 | DrodoEmpire | Could be used as a weapon itself I'm sure |
19:25.59 | DrodoEmpire | But not always its primary purpose |
19:27.11 | NeonPanda | that was the case with pikes; the spike on the end was for digging into the ground/finishing off downed foes rather than poking living combatants with |
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19:28.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah makes sense |
19:28.23 | NeonPanda | the biggest problem with say a double ended glaive is maintaining edge alignment |
19:28.33 | drom | Anyway. Hachiman. About the WoD game. Currently I am hanging out with our mage, and our path brought us to the place where the mages meet. Hilarity ensued. |
19:30.20 | Hachiman | Oh boy |
19:30.28 | Hachiman | You're playing a werewolf right? |
19:30.53 | drom | Yes |
19:31.47 | drom | Tek0516 Ghelae Wormy_: https://i.imgur.com/gNPNSF4.jpg |
19:32.26 | Tek0516 | O.O |
19:33.07 | Wormy_ | lol |
19:35.21 | Wormy_ | The most satisfying video ever? https://imgur.com/gallery/NC17a |
19:41.00 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Aren't polearms pretty heavy? |
19:41.05 | Imperios | So they can't be used for real fencing |
19:42.08 | DrodoEmpire | Er, no, they're fairly heavy sure but the idea they can't be used with any finesse is wrong |
19:42.28 | Hachiman | What is a quarterstaff |
19:42.32 | DrodoEmpire | There's loads of manuals afaik on how to use halberds and the like in hand-to-hand combar |
19:42.38 | DrodoEmpire | *combat |
19:43.08 | DrodoEmpire | Polearms were usually used as true weapons of war anyway, in formations |
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19:44.04 | Monet | hello |
19:44.47 | Spu | Hachiman: A quarter of a staff |
19:44.49 | Spu | Hi |
19:45.08 | Spu | Basically Kilik's weapon |
19:45.29 | Spu | Roughly the same size |
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19:48.51 | NeonPanda | two origins of the name quarterstaff: either because they were made from a log split into quarters, or because the proper holding of a quarterstaff involves the lever hand being one quarter the length up the staff |
19:49.03 | dino82_ | Ok defeated Gul'Dan in Legion |
19:49.07 | dino82_ | whats next? |
19:49.11 | dino82_ | No more quests -_- |
19:50.36 | NeonPanda | dino82_: rally the clans and have an epic dance-off |
19:50.58 | drom | dino82_: I've a long list of dungeons and instances to raid |
19:50.58 | dino82_ | Lol :D |
19:51.10 | drom | But unfortunately my desktop is ripperino. |
19:51.11 | dino82_ | Me some as well but no more quests :D |
19:51.17 | dino82_ | Perhaps I should travel to Pandaria and finish those :D |
19:51.45 | NeonPanda | one time in ArcheAge that actually happened; two faction navies worked together to clear Kraken, then had a dance-off over who got the tentacle trophy |
19:54.05 | dino82_ | naice |
19:59.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oh huh so apparently my response more or less changed Irsk's mind |
19:59.42 | DrodoEmpire | That's cool |
20:00.13 | NeonPanda | nice |
20:00.40 | Wormy_ | good job, I'm glad the discussion took a positive spin |
20:01.01 | NeonPanda | oh btw, anyone want to be a colonist in my third attempt at a rimworld colony, after the second one got set on fire? |
20:01.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
20:01.23 | DrodoEmpire | Link? |
20:01.38 | NeonPanda | what exactly do you want me to link? |
20:01.51 | DrodoEmpire | The colony and its page, if possible |
20:01.59 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wait |
20:01.59 | NeonPanda | rimworld is a computer game |
20:02.01 | DrodoEmpire | nvm |
20:02.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah just remembered hur |
20:03.44 | Spu | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Skaurovirn Redid these bastards |
20:03.55 | Spu | pls quote |
20:05.28 | DrodoEmpire | "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" - Halifaxian |
20:08.11 | Zillafire101 | Wait, Spu is really Xho? |
20:08.17 | Spu | doi |
20:08.40 | Zillafire101 | I thought we had a new user for the longest time. |
20:08.49 | Xho | BAMBOOZLED |
20:09.06 | drom | Reminds me of when I used two aliases |
20:09.58 | drom | And eventually they became known names in the same community, until I changed from one to the other right in front of other people |
20:10.05 | drom | some people lost their minds |
20:10.57 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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20:17.50 | Xho | Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Skaurovirn Redid this page |
20:17.53 | Xho | pls quote |
20:18.17 | Hachiman | I'll read it over but I'll have to quote it a little later |
20:25.24 | Imperios | Hachiman: About quarterstaves, you sure they are polearms? |
20:26.39 | Imperios | Doesn't a polearm have to have... something on the stick |
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20:32.06 | Wormy_ | hi |
20:32.42 | Treebeard | Hello |
20:35.07 | DrodoEmpire | I wouldn't think they're polearms, though eh |
20:35.11 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMGsRmZTFQ Skaurovirn cannibalism in a nutshell |
20:35.54 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
20:38.57 | NeonPanda | by definition they're poles, not polearms, but realistically who cares so long as whack is appropriately applied |
20:41.29 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
20:41.43 | Wormy_ | ugh, my optimisation lecturer fills every slide with graphs and equations and didn't record the lecture for me to watch again |
20:42.04 | Wormy_ | or at least, hasn't uploaded it |
20:42.36 | drom | Big O notation? |
20:44.12 | ZF_RTW | I'm off to conquer Britannia. Toddles. |
20:44.13 | Wormy_ | that kind of thing |
20:45.24 | Hachiman | Xho: Nice work on the Skaurovirn page, lotsa interestin shi on there |
20:45.40 | Hachiman | Their vulnerabilities for one |
20:46.06 | Hachiman | And their history too |
20:46.58 | Wormy_ | Also differential equations, multidimensional graphs, fitness landscapes, P4areto fronts, scheduling diagrams, |
20:47.54 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:48.54 | drom | differential equations |
20:48.56 | drom | oh man |
20:48.58 | drom | screw them |
20:49.37 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:49.46 | Wormy_ | * and so |
20:50.38 | Wormy_ | Might as well be gobbledegook without the lecture recording to talk me through |
20:50.59 | NeonPanda | "Look, I know you're trying to make us sound a bit less threatening, a bit more appealing, but literally the friendliest spell in our vocabulary is called 'ENTROPY.'" |
20:51.30 | NeonPanda | a bit of self awareness always adds a bit of humour |
20:52.55 | Imperios | Xho: Could the Cobalt Kingdom and the early Skaurs interacdt? |
20:52.56 | dino82_ | bye bye |
20:53.27 | Xho | Imperios: What did you have in mind? |
20:54.19 | Imperios | Maybe Skaurs attacking distant Ordnung citadels, and the Ordnung sending punitive expeditions in return |
20:55.31 | Xho | Skaurovirn - wtf is this |
20:55.43 | Xho | I dunno if the Skaurovirn would travel that far to attack someone |
20:56.44 | Imperios | I imagine the Cobalt Kingdom spanned vast parts of the underground Koldenwelt at its height |
20:56.57 | Xho | Huh in that case more likely |
20:59.14 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Skaurovirn#Quotes There we go |
21:00.07 | Xho | Skaurovirn - tell that to ur kid we just spit roasted kek |
21:01.18 | Xho | I could imagine Skaurovirn taunting to be like "The greatest of humours come when the beloved dead, cast aside and sewn together, rise against their living" or something edgy like that |
21:03.11 | Imperios | I now want to further develop the Ordnung |
21:03.56 | Hachiman | So, Skauro necromancers |
21:04.05 | Hachiman | How about that |
21:04.11 | Xho | Necromancy is probably comedy to the Skaurovirn |
21:04.32 | Hachiman | Turns their art into weapons of war |
21:04.36 | Xho | "Oh look the corpse totem's come alive, let's scare the outsiders by making it move" |
21:04.45 | Imperios | so more like trolling |
21:05.05 | Xho | They could make behemoths of the same form as weapons |
21:05.22 | Xho | On the page it's mentioned they constructed idols of their god with dragon parts |
21:05.30 | Xho | That could come alive and act as a sentinel rather easily |
21:05.55 | Xho | Hachiman: "cash me inside, howbodah" |
21:06.19 | Hachiman | hur |
21:07.36 | Xho | But yeah trolling mainly |
21:08.00 | Xho | Nothing is more humiliating than seeing the mutilated corpse of your loved one come back to life to drag you down with them |
21:08.10 | Xho | Skaurovirn are evil let's bear that in mind |
21:08.21 | Xho | Annamasakkan is an outlier in that correlation |
21:11.18 | Xho | That and they're also tied to a realm that is a dominion of the Void |
21:11.42 | Xho | No one really knows that bar one or tow |
21:11.43 | Xho | two |
21:13.56 | Xho | I'd like to do the Skaurovirn Codex as a fiction |
21:14.08 | Xho | I could put in the World Annals page actually |
21:14.22 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AThe_World_Annals |
21:20.38 | Xho | Imperios: Gimme a random human name |
21:20.43 | Xho | any culture |
21:20.54 | Xho | Apart from Dalmiric |
21:21.10 | Imperios | Jamal |
21:21.32 | Imperios | takes a strip of KFC |
21:21.58 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
21:22.39 | Xho | oooooh shit boi |
21:22.49 | Xho | Jamal something |
21:22.53 | Xho | I mean full name |
21:23.12 | Imperios | Jamal Cottonpicker |
21:23.15 | Imperios | Okay okay seriously now |
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21:23.29 | Imperios | Jamal Whitestone |
21:24.47 | Xho | rite |
21:28.50 | Wormy_ | That's the second time I've seen the name "Jamal" today |
21:29.03 | Wormy_ | sYnChRoNiCiTy |
21:30.48 | DrodoEmpire | <:O |
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21:34.06 | drom | goddamn fucking benchmarking aaagh |
21:35.25 | Wormy_ | ð http://img12.deviantart.net/fb4d/i/2016/085/c/3/gandhi_goes_nuclear_by_daitomodachi_channel-d9wjyu5.jpg |
21:35.43 | DrodoEmpire | olololol |
21:35.43 | Wormy_ | couldn't help myself post that despicable emoji |
21:36.35 | Wormy_ | as in, you see it everywhere |
21:37.37 | DrodoEmpire | Mahatma ð
±andhi |
21:38.07 | Xho | You pick that from my DA by any chance |
21:38.17 | Wormy_ | yes |
21:38.21 | Xho | ooooooooooooooo |
21:38.24 | Wormy_ | I was stalkin it |
21:49.08 | Imperios | Technobliterator: The PM has to be a member of the Parliament, right? |
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21:49.24 | Technobliterator | Yes |
21:49.32 | Technobliterator | Same with all of the cabinet |
21:49.53 | Monet | We select our PMs by party. |
21:50.04 | Monet | Always Party leaders, selected internally. |
21:50.28 | Wormy_ | Hence Cameron's crude initiation ceremonies :P |
21:50.51 | Imperios | Thanks |
21:51.03 | Imperios | Currently doing my research for uni |
21:52.03 | Wormy_ | For linguistics? |
21:52.09 | Imperios | Interesting how the British system of government is *seemingly* pretty mundane but once you dig a little deeper it turns out to be somewhat unusual |
21:52.15 | Wormy_ | It really does have wide scope |
21:52.29 | Imperios | Wormy_: Nah, we're just learning English history and culture as part of our English course |
21:52.36 | Wormy_ | right |
21:53.20 | Technobliterator | It is pretty mundane and stupid, indeed |
21:53.31 | Technobliterator | For starters, there is no codified constitution |
21:53.41 | Monet | Parliament's evolution is how England has been -relatively- revolution-free compared to the continent |
21:53.45 | Wormy_ | I was about to say it was one of the greatest political institutions on Earth |
21:53.47 | Technobliterator | Secondly, first past the post, which makes it a total sham |
21:53.49 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Exactly, that ISN'T mundane |
21:53.54 | Imperios | And actually weird |
21:54.03 | Technobliterator | Thirdly, the House of Lords |
21:54.10 | DrodoEmpire | There isn't, because compared to the continent England didn't have a billion revolutions that established one |
21:54.21 | DrodoEmpire | It evolved naturally |
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21:54.45 | Technobliterator | Well, the latter two are more my opinion than anything |
21:54.49 | Technobliterator | but the first is definitely weird |
21:54.55 | Wormy_ | I actually think the House of Lords are somewhat useful |
21:55.05 | Monet | I like the system of the house of Lords |
21:55.06 | DrodoEmpire | That all said it might not be a -bad- idea to instate one, but I'm not sure. |
21:55.18 | Imperios | They can provide advice can't they? |
21:55.22 | Monet | Unelected sure, but that also means they can do their job without worrying abotu popular opinion. |
21:55.36 | Technobliterator | While it has made useful votes recently, I do not like any system that puts people into power when you can't remove them if they screw you over |
21:55.40 | Monet | Imperios: Any bill the Commons proposes is scrutinised by the House of Lords. |
21:55.47 | Technobliterator | That they can do their job without worrying about popular opinion is precisely my issue with the House of Lords |
21:55.50 | Wormy_ | They have defeated the government over a number of silly decisions |
21:56.01 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Yeah, kind of weird how Brits still have some laws dating back centuries |
21:56.09 | DrodoEmpire | I'd say take your lack of a codified constitution as a reminder that there has never been a revolution so absolute they saw it fit to instate one themselves |
21:56.26 | DrodoEmpire | Its perhaps a testament to how robust the English system and nation is, at some level |
21:56.29 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Speaking of which |
21:56.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yes? |
21:56.42 | Imperios | Does Canada have a constitution or are you weird like your father nation too? |
21:56.48 | Technobliterator | Well, iirc the Blairite Labour government was actually putting together a draft for a codified constitution and then didn't do it |
21:56.50 | Imperios | A codified one I mean |
21:56.54 | Technobliterator | presumably they had other priorities |
21:57.11 | Technobliterator | (ie invading a country illegally for oil and selling all our infrastructure to China and Richard Branson) |
21:57.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, we do, as we only became a nation in the mid 19th century and having a constitution was the cool thing |
21:57.33 | Imperios | Ours sucks |
21:57.43 | Monet | Technobliterator: Or it didn't seem practical |
21:57.47 | Technobliterator | I don't think there are many other countries that don't have a codified constitution, though I know New Zealand don't |
21:58.11 | Imperios | It was basically penned by Yeltsin to stay in power and confers great power to the president |
21:58.15 | Wormy_ | My problem is not with our system, so much that we lack a good choice for competitive politics |
21:58.28 | Wormy_ | I'm not sure other voting platforms would make it any better |
21:58.29 | Technobliterator | Saudi Arabia doesn't, but their "constitution" is some version of the quaran... |
21:58.33 | Technobliterator | Which sounds...very typical |
21:59.24 | Monet | Technobliterator: Look at this one way, the Lords can't make laws - that's the Commons' job. But they can include ones via amendments that the Commons are free t oapprove or discard |
21:59.37 | Wormy_ | I have a friend who thinks votes should be weighted rather than counted, weighted based on general knowledge |
21:59.38 | Imperios | The Supreme Council of Russia literally revolted against Yeltsin, so Yeltsin essentially stripped them of most authority |
21:59.57 | Imperios | Technobliterator: It does have one, although it is not called a constitution but a "common law" |
22:00.03 | Imperios | or "basic law" |
22:00.08 | Monet | I like the system because creating effective legislation is essentially a back-and-forth revision until both houses agree on the soundness of a bill. |
22:00.19 | Wormy_ | So do I |
22:00.37 | Imperios | The first article of this basic law states that the Holy Quran is the country's constitution, but it still contains most of the stuff a constitution has |
22:01.17 | Technobliterator | I like that the Lords scrutinizes the Commons, but I don't like a system where you can't vote the Lords out if they just keep voting against the people |
22:01.26 | Imperios | Technobliterator: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Basic_Law_of_Saudi_Arabia There it is |
22:01.28 | Technobliterator | That has never happened before, but I don't like the potential of it happening |
22:01.53 | Monet | Well if it's never happened before, what are the odds of it becoming a problem? |
22:02.03 | Xho | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
22:02.19 | Imperios | It could be interesting if a similar system was instituted in other countries, but without the aristocracy |
22:03.33 | Imperios | Simply take important scientific, cultural and political figures and have them serve in the upper house for a fairly long period of time, but with ittle power other than advisorship |
22:06.38 | Monet | My biggest gripe with the electoral system (and other than that I like it) is how thoughts of how to stay in position can overtake how to get stuff done. |
22:07.26 | Xho | Wormy_ Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZazYFchLRI Music Level: Deatched from social dogma |
22:07.31 | Xho | detached* |
22:08.00 | Imperios | The Cabinet is appointed by the PM, right? |
22:08.06 | Xho | yes |
22:08.35 | Wormy_ | Xho: I'm feeling a kindalini awakening |
22:08.38 | Wormy_ | kundalini |
22:08.52 | Xho | Iannis Xenakis is very important to the history of electronic music |
22:09.15 | Monet | Imperios: I think so. |
22:09.20 | Xho | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iannis_Xenakis One of the first to apply mathematical structure to music |
22:10.06 | Wormy_ | I noticed the graph and terms and it made me think of systems |
22:10.26 | Wormy_ | "Xenakis pioneered the use of mathematical models in music such as applications of set theory, stochastic processes and game theory" |
22:10.38 | Xho | this guy |
22:10.42 | Wormy_ | Also I'm reading a paper on systems dynamics so this is good |
22:10.52 | Wormy_ | Sounds like a polymath tbh |
22:11.31 | Xho | He was |
22:11.40 | Xho | He studied mathematics and was an architect |
22:13.01 | Wormy_ | This guy understood how to synthesise the relationships of space and sound |
22:13.31 | Wormy_ | to my limited knowledge of music I know that reverb and similar things are important in the electronic genre |
22:13.53 | Xho | yup |
22:14.24 | Wormy_ | There's an author I know that's a polymath in literary form, Douglas R Hoftstadter |
22:14.45 | Wormy_ | He wrote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach |
22:15.13 | Wormy_ | Used music, mathematical art and logic to explain self-reference |
22:16.02 | Xho | I remember you linking that before |
22:16.06 | Xho | I was confused somewhat |
22:16.51 | Wormy_ | Then he wrote an even weirder book that attempted to explain how fragments of soul that remain in other people's minds whenever they listen or read your works https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Strange_Loop |
22:17.35 | Wormy_ | But also depicted consciousness as a self-indulged illusion |
22:19.25 | Wormy_ | Polymaths have a rare kind of brilliance |
22:20.42 | Wormy_ | Though I disagree with much of Hoftstadter his ideas are infectious |
22:26.09 | Xho | Interesting |
22:26.26 | Xho | On the topic of this kind of thought check out Karlheinz Stockhausen as well |
22:26.35 | Xho | Very unusual music |
22:26.52 | Xho | More or less the forefather of electronic |
22:29.44 | Wormy_ | I shall this can be music I can work to |
22:33.18 | Wormy_ | I suppose you needed to be wqiote technical t manipulate early electronic instruments probably designed by one's self |
22:33.27 | Wormy_ | quite |
22:33.34 | Xho | Yeah they were basically massive consoles |
22:38.53 | Xho | Nowadays you get more possibilities on a desktop addon |
22:41.41 | Xho | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArdOLSo6eTU |
22:53.11 | ZF101 | Bye bye all. |
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23:07.10 | Xho | Hi |
23:07.23 | Xho | Imperios: Also I commented on the Cobalt Kingdom as the Skaurovirn |
23:09.07 | Tybusen | Hello |
23:10.04 | Imperios | Xho: Ordnung - u wot m8 |
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23:28.29 | Imperios | Heya |
23:28.34 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
23:28.50 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/20562671/dungeon-preview-cathedral-of-eternal-night |
23:29.26 | Imperios | >. The dimwitted moâarg lacks any respect for knowledge or learning |
23:29.30 | Imperios | Weird |
23:29.38 | Imperios | Mo'arg were scientists in BC |
23:29.58 | Imperios | >The Aegis of Aggramar provides protection against the Legionâs attacks |
23:30.02 | Imperios | OHGOD NOT AGAIN |
23:30.28 | OluapPlayer | There are multiple types of mo'arg |
23:30.31 | Imperios | THESE MORTALS DARE NOT TAKE THE AEGIS FROM ME |
23:30.32 | OluapPlayer | I think felguard are mo'arg |
23:30.37 | OluapPlayer | hur |
23:32.09 | OluapPlayer | I do think it's weird that they made these little backpack-wearing demons instead of reusing the scientist mo'arg, they're like the same thing purpose-wise |
23:32.33 | Imperios | Yeah I find it weird too |
23:32.43 | Imperios | The new demons are cool though, I like demon inquisitors |
23:32.51 | OluapPlayer | Weeeeew yeyeye bleh |
23:32.59 | OluapPlayer | Yeah inquisitors are cool |
23:33.01 | Imperios | And imp mothers |
23:33.11 | Imperios | I still think they were created as a response to feminist criticism |
23:33.19 | OluapPlayer | hur |
23:33.56 | Imperios | "Hey guys you need more body diversity with female characters" |
23:34.09 | Imperios | "Okay ladies now we'll add you to the game, see for yourself" |
23:34.20 | OluapPlayer | >everyone looks like a supermodel >make a REALLY FAT demon woman |
23:34.35 | Imperios | I appreciate that not every female demon is sexy though |
23:34.37 | Imperios | It makes sense |
23:34.42 | OluapPlayer | Yeah so do I |
23:35.29 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of demons, I hope we get to fight Hakkar the Houndmaster when we get to Argus |
23:35.33 | Imperios | We have succubi who are succubi, shivarras and man'ari who are sexy but not as overt, we have creepy spider demonesses, and then the Tumblrinas |
23:35.44 | Imperios | Hunters fight him in their storyline |
23:35.52 | OluapPlayer | Oh do they? |
23:35.53 | Imperios | Not sure if they KILL him |
23:35.57 | Imperios | But they defeat him for sure |
23:36.07 | OluapPlayer | If he doesn't die in the Nether, he can always come back |
23:36.14 | Imperios | True |
23:36.26 | OluapPlayer | Did Jaraxxus appear in any class quests? |
23:36.35 | Imperios | I don't think so |
23:37.06 | OluapPlayer | >kill Archimonde and Kil'jaeden in Argus, vanquishing them forever >we have defeated the leaders of the Burning Le- >YOU FACE JARAXXUS |
23:37.07 | NeonPanda | YOU FACE no I'm not going to do it |
23:37.24 | Xho | EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION |
23:37.29 | Xho | i did it for you |
23:37.34 | Imperios | Holy shit even Xho knows it |
23:37.46 | NeonPanda | everyone vaguely in tune with nerd culture knows it |
23:37.55 | Imperios | Jaraxxus leads the Legion remnants after Sargeras is defeated |
23:38.01 | OluapPlayer | Would be interesting if Prince Malchezaar showed up in Argus |
23:38.09 | OluapPlayer | >Eredar prince >Eredar homeworld |
23:38.10 | OluapPlayer | would fit |
23:38.19 | NeonPanda | All dimensions, all realities are open to me! - NOT. THIS. PARTY. |
23:38.23 | Imperios | In all seriousness maybe Blizzard wants to conserve them for future expansions |
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23:38.34 | Imperios | Malchezzar and Jaraxxus could lead Legion remnants |
23:38.44 | Imperios | NeonPanda: Unlike to Jaraxxus |
23:38.48 | Imperios | BECAUSE HE CAN KARAOKE |
23:38.48 | OluapPlayer | I mentioned Jaraxxus because he was summoned to the Broken Shore by Gul'dan |
23:39.03 | Imperios | Funnily enough |
23:39.04 | OluapPlayer | So he should theoretically be around |
23:39.14 | Imperios | In Hearthstone, Jaraxxus kills Gul'dan after he is summoned |
23:39.27 | NeonPanda | and Jaraxxus doesn't destroy the roof by throwing dread infernals at it |
23:39.59 | OluapPlayer | They goofed up with Hakkar though, they made him look like a felguard instead of a giant flaming skelly |
23:40.03 | Imperios | If we are speaking about Hearthstone |
23:40.13 | Imperios | Pleeeeease bring the Jade Lotus into WoW |
23:40.16 | Imperios | They're fucking awesome |
23:40.18 | Imperios | And fun to platy |
23:40.19 | OluapPlayer | who dat |
23:40.19 | Imperios | *play |
23:40.25 | Imperios | Pandaren mafia from Hearthstone |
23:40.33 | OluapPlayer | >Pandaria mafia |
23:40.34 | OluapPlayer | jesus christ |
23:41.05 | Imperios | They're one of the three Gadzetzan mafia gangs |
23:41.24 | Imperios | There's the one led by an ogre who specialises in weapon sales |
23:41.34 | Imperios | And the magical one led by a Zandalari troll |
23:41.44 | Imperios | But the Jade Lotus is the best |
23:41.50 | OluapPlayer | mon |
23:42.10 | Imperios | It is led by a tiny pandaren girl who channels the ghost of an ancient mogu king to animate jade golems |
23:42.21 | OluapPlayer | >tiny pandaren girl |
23:42.23 | Xho | >tfw no blood oranges red bamboo however |
23:42.25 | OluapPlayer | course u like it den |
23:42.52 | Xho | Anyway I need to go to sleep now |
23:42.59 | Imperios | Oh, and one of her minions is a fucking humanoid sha |
23:43.09 | Imperios | https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/2/29/Shaku%2C_the_Collector_full.jpg?version=63916af77f422900dbdfd25a5754b546 |
23:43.40 | OluapPlayer | one does not simply control a sha |
23:43.40 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/6/64/Mean_Streets_of_Gadgetzan_Jade_Lotus_key_art.jpg?version=901ac3c8ec4586a2b3ae4aeeeb443fe1 |
23:43.48 | Imperios | There they are |
23:43.56 | OluapPlayer | Is that a rabbit man |
23:44.07 | Imperios | Yes |
23:44.12 | Imperios | I think that's a virmen |
23:44.25 | OluapPlayer | Very slim virmen then |
23:44.49 | OluapPlayer | [obligatory joke involving Hachi] |
23:46.56 | Imperios | Hearthstone's art can be very silly and awesome at the same time |
23:47.31 | Imperios | https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/7/76/N%27Zoth%27s_First_Mate_full.jpg?version=5bbb7d27d8028f6d34c81d7c4dd04e2c Qiraji pirated |
23:47.35 | Imperios | *pirates |
23:48.15 | OluapPlayer | silly |
23:48.15 | Imperios | https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/8/8d/Southsea_Squidface_full.jpg?version=1848b0c815efd859b8deb440d6db7d5a Faceless pirates |
23:48.24 | OluapPlayer | very silly |
23:51.40 | Imperios | https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/e/e0/Ragnaros%2C_Lightlord_full.jpg?version=5ca248e01797186792bc642371b8954a This art is cool though |
23:54.23 | OluapPlayer | Would look better without the helm imo |
23:59.06 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire http://imgur.com/gallery/ZdXXR |