IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170312

00:00.26DrodoEmpireOh huh
00:00.40MonetAN artsy district 2-3 stories off the ground, a fashion district around a plaza 8 stories off the ground, and the elite 'uptown' district is a plaza connected to four skyscrapers 30-something stories above ground level.
00:01.07Wormy__pretty terrifying really, current physical models imply boltzmann brains outnumber evolutionary ones by ridiculously huge numbers, making it highly probable I am one, which at any moment could be the result of a spontaneous generation of false memories and perceptions
00:01.16Wormy__here I hope the physics is wrong
00:07.22MonetThere's a gym on the edge of the Uptown plaza
00:07.38Monetthe city's elite can get fit while literally looking down on everyone else.
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00:10.39DrodoEmpireolol
00:12.51MonetActually that Hipster district was interesting, first visit there was a flea market going on and the first thing I saw were several food vendors. It reminded me of the Hong Kong Night Market in Sleeping Dogs
00:13.22MonetThere was one guy I kept passing who was selling pork buns, who kepts saying stuff like "hey yo, why don't you have a pork bun in yourhand?"
00:13.25Monetyou*
00:15.29MonetGuy was trying to sell me his pork buns by saying "I don't see a pork bun on your person, buy one!"
00:22.17DrodoEmpire"I'd take 3000 kg of dentists with hunting rifles." - http://imgur.com/gallery/qUZY5
00:23.57Monet"3000kg of Macho Man Randy Savage. That's roughly 28 Savages if you were wondering."
00:24.00Xhoholy shit
00:24.26MonetAaand there's a your-mom joke.
00:24.36Monetyour mom so fat*
00:28.20Monet"I'm having a hard time imagining a scenario where 12 male lions work cooperatively. Call me back when it's 18 females." owned
00:29.15Wormy__lion bites dart frog -> bites you with poison mouth -> you die -> lion dies
00:31.52Monethttp://imgur.com/gallery/zSDHj
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02:25.49DrodoEmpirehur
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09:50.47DrodoEmpireaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
09:50.59DrodoEmpireits 6:50 in the morning and I can't sleep
09:51.09DrodoEmpireI hopped myself up on shit >:
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10:48.55JepardiHi
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11:20.35GhelaeHello.
11:21.24DrodoEmpireHi
11:33.49TreebeardHello
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11:50.25GhelaeHello.
11:51.26Monethttp://www.gamesradar.com/oh-deer-the-internet-reacts-to-the-walking-dead-season-7s-terrible-cgi-bambi/?utm_content=bufferf9e3a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer_grtw the internet reacts so bad CGI in its usual fashion.
11:52.38OluapPlayerkek
11:53.52Monet"There will be... no. mercy."
12:24.34NeonPandanow, I've seen some bad CGI
12:24.37NeonPandabut that is some really bad CGI
12:26.41NeonPandaoh btw Oluap: the colony got set on fire and burned
12:28.38OluapPlayerrip
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14:20.54Wormy_hi
14:21.16Monethi
14:21.51Tek0516Hello
14:26.35TreebeardHello
14:27.17GhelaeHello.
15:03.26Wormy_https://www.facebook.com/geolomemes/photos/a.329443664123729.1073741828.325568731177889/345347852533310/?type=3&theater
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15:06.32MonetHi
15:06.47Wormy_Other scientists be like https://www.facebook.com/geolomemes/photos/a.329443664123729.1073741828.325568731177889/334184980316264/?type=3&theater
15:09.43MonetThat person saying that is stupid
15:10.08Monetgeology is about looking at rocks too
15:13.02Wormy_of course, colouring in is just the end process
15:13.36Wormy_But ever since that Big Bang theory episode, it gets this rack
15:17.03MonetI think the same could be said about analytics
15:17.24Monet"Oh it's just drawing charts"
15:18.16Wormy_yep, its drawing charts so that the understanding process can even begin
15:21.13Wormy_Informational visualisation works like that anyway, the point is not to visualise something you already know, because create a visualisation of data so you kind find insights
15:21.20Wormy_*but create
15:22.09Wormy_I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me lately
15:22.21Wormy_I keep typing the wrong words in
15:22.56Wormy_And when I write with pen, I skip letters, merge letters, or write the next word before the previous one
15:23.08Wormy_I hope its not a neurological disease
15:33.46MonetBbl
15:55.53Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/VCHOP
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16:38.59ImperiosHiya
16:39.56OluapPlayerHi
16:40.52TreebeardHello
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17:06.50Charles_MurrayTreebeard Dino82_ DrodoEmpire Imperios Wormy_ Tek0516 This might make French politics a tad bit easier to understand http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Head_of_State
17:07.00Charles_MurrayAdded ideological inclinations
17:07.11dino82_Hi!
17:08.11dino82_nacie :D
17:08.12Charles_MurrayHey!
17:10.05Charles_MurrayI wonder if this changes Technobliterator's impressions at all
17:10.53ImperiosWhat was her impressions?
17:11.22dino82_No idea
17:11.26dino82_nice updates though!
17:12.39Charles_MurrayImperios : Technobliterator had strong opinions about Sporewiki!French politics last time we spoke
17:12.49ImperiosI must have missed that discussion
17:12.51ImperiosWhat happened?
17:13.54Charles_MurrayNah, she just adamantly said she could only ever vote for France's Democratic Union
17:14.28dino82_ah ok
17:15.23Charles_MurrayWhat do you guys think?
17:15.43Charles_Murray(I also put one for Alexandre)
17:22.20ImperiosOluapPlayer: You're going to work tomorrow, right?
17:22.26OluapPlayerYes
17:23.14TechnobliteratorIt changes them a little
17:23.16TechnobliteratorGood stuff :o
17:23.25TechnobliteratorAlso, Imperios, Borealis War section needed
17:23.35ImperiosRight
17:23.50ImperiosOluapPlayer: Now's the good time to do mythics then, I have a +10 keystone
17:23.55TechnobliteratorOnly like 2 paragraphs or so
17:24.02Technobliteratorjust have Divinarium react to the War Economy
17:24.04OluapPlayerI can't right now
17:25.44ImperiosAlright
17:26.33ImperiosWhen will you?
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17:38.48HachimanHi
17:38.49TreebeardHello
17:39.02HachimanJust finished watching the new Samurai Jack episode
17:39.06Hachimantwas good
17:39.34HachimanWormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDpcVC5C6EM If it goes black at the start, worry not, it's supposed to do that
17:44.08DrodoEmpiretest
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18:07.35Charles_MurrayMonet : French politics might be a bit easier to understand now
18:07.35Charles_Murrayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Politics_and_government
18:14.45DrodoEmpireCharles_Murray this is the only politician I trust http://i.imgur.com/CauyzC8.png
18:16.03MonetWhat if ice giants never existed though
18:16.16HachimanYou can't prove they didn't
18:16.37OluapPlayerODIN'S PIZZA PLACE
18:17.39Monet#wherearethebodies
18:18.08HachimanYou can apply that to the Holocaust as well and people are fairly sure that happened
18:18.22MonetExactly
18:18.38OluapPlayerSo Odin proven correct
18:18.40Hachimanjews still exist so it didnt happen
18:19.13OluapPlayerAs for where the ice giants are, we're living on top of them
18:19.16OluapPlayerlern ur myths
18:19.19HachimanAye
18:19.34HachimanGod Monet, it's like you forgot that we are but one world on the branches of Yggdrasil
18:20.08MonetOkay what has Odin done recently
18:20.27OluapPlayerOffered eternal mead and battle for the worthy
18:20.50HachimanDid you forget that Ragnarok happened
18:21.06OluapPlayerOh
18:21.09OluapPlayerIn that case he's ded
18:21.26OluapPlayerwe worship Níðhöggr for now on
18:21.51MonetSo what's the point in electing a dead guy?
18:21.53ImperiosBut I killed that world boss already
18:22.26OluapPlayerkek
18:23.21MonetSo Odin either died saving the world or his policies only affect me after I die
18:23.27HachimanYes
18:23.43HachimanI'm sure you can posthumously elect
18:23.50MonetI'm voting Tyr then
18:23.56OluapPlayerSilly you don't have a say when it's a god
18:24.07Hachimanas long as its not baldur cus hes a fuckin loser
18:24.14ImperiosFuck ur Vikings, I'm voting Moloch
18:24.21DrodoEmpireWait a minute
18:24.25Imperios*sacrifices children*
18:24.25OluapPlayercan't complain, will have valkyries later
18:24.32DrodoEmpireWould electing a god be merging church and state? <.<
18:24.39HachimanHm
18:24.45ImperiosYou could say that
18:25.01DrodoEmpireCharles_Murray you should know the answer, you studied that in politics class right
18:25.01HachimanI mean, it's not like the god himself heads the church
18:25.15DrodoEmpireOh poo he isn't here >:
18:25.26HachimanOther politicians have cults dedicated to them and they can still run and whatnot
18:25.27Monetthen I vote for Alexander of Macedon.
18:26.04DrodoEmpire^
18:26.06MonetHe's the son of Zeus, he counts right?
18:26.10DrodoEmpireTimonax - yes :>
18:26.14HachimanBut yes, vote Odin and you get Valkyries later
18:26.18OluapPlayerdisobedience against president odin means you have to wear the horned helm of shame
18:26.38MonetBut I want valkyries now!
18:27.02OluapPlayerYou can have valkyries now. You just need to stop living
18:27.15HachimanAye
18:27.17MonetScrew that
18:27.18HachimanGet in a fight and die
18:27.19ImperiosI wish I could suggest some other divinity instead of Odin because of my hatred for the Old Norse
18:27.23ImperiosBut I can't
18:27.26ImperiosGLORY TO ODIN
18:27.49Hachimanbrb
18:27.51OluapPlayerwut u got against vikings
18:28.13HachimanMe and Oluap have made a pact that we will kill each other in a fight so we can both get Valkyrie bitches
18:28.18Hachimannao dinner
18:28.21ImperiosThey're overrated hur
18:28.37ImperiosI mean they just plundered a few countries, did not even build any empires
18:28.52ImperiosSure they sailed a lot but so did the Polynesians
18:29.00MonetHey...he's right
18:29.21OluapPlayerBe thankful you're not playing a warrior in Legion then, 90% of the time is spent surrounded by vikings
18:29.25Monet<PROTECTED>
18:30.01MonetI trust Mars' management skills
18:30.10ImperiosI mean we have quite a few brutal barbarians who raided people, except they actually conquered them
18:30.51ImperiosThat being said
18:30.54OluapPlayerHonestly speaking I don't actually know anything about vikings since I don't pay attention to real world history
18:31.07OluapPlayerI just like what little I know of norse mythology
18:31.09ImperiosThey influenced England and Russia greatly
18:31.36ImperiosWhich means that while not building any empires of their own, they laid the foundations of the British Empire and the Russian empires
18:34.57MonetIn a way
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18:35.12dromHello.
18:35.21dromToday I managed to kill my desktop's mobo
18:35.34Monetthe French or Franks also had considerable influence on Britain
18:36.12dromWhy are there so many mobos with -upright-facing- SATA ports?
18:36.16dromEveryone knows those sucks
18:36.57dromOkay, mabye not. But I can't have one for my rig.
18:38.54MonetDrom: hi we're talking Vikings
18:39.06dromSorry for crashing in like this. Money.
18:39.10dromMonet, even
18:39.12dromSorry
18:39.33MonetAhh no worries mate
18:40.08dromIt is just that the mobo is a socket 1150. And no one seems to be selling these anymore
18:41.04dromGetting a newer one means I have also to buy a new processor for it. Considering the new standard is 1151 and is not backwards-compatible with 1150.
18:42.00ImperiosOluapPlayer: Right, so wanna do mythics now?
18:42.06MonetIt's a pain buying for old hardware
18:42.15OluapPlayerDo your Keystone without me
18:42.22OluapPlayerI don't really feel like playing at the moment
18:42.30Imperiosok
18:42.41OluapPlayerI feel kinda burned out of WoW
18:42.45OluapPlayerneed some days out of it
18:43.07Monetrandom note someone should make a TV show out of the 4th crusade, that was one crazy time
18:43.50OluapPlayerAlso I'm currently having a big-ass storm
18:43.53OluapPlayerThe sky is falling atm
18:44.26OluapPlayerI've not seen rain this strong in a while
18:44.51MonetCome to England
18:45.22dromWhere Heaven does fall with the sky
18:48.48MonetWe'll be getting sun soon
18:50.10Wormy_Going to see Trainspotting 2 bbl
18:50.20MonetI love the days when it is seventeen degrees and it's cloudless
18:50.40Wormy_awayhas been away all day
18:51.45Wormy_awayMonet:  17 degrees might be mild in Brazil
18:51.50Wormy_awaynot hot weather as we understand it
18:52.09Monetspeaking of films I saw (Old Man) Logan today
18:53.25MonetPatrick Stewart's performance was awesome
18:55.50OluapPlayerCurrent thermical sensation is 35+
18:55.54OluapPlayerCounting the storm
18:57.25MonetI find that rain cools down and refreshes everything
18:58.04OluapPlayerWell it's raining and it's really hot
18:58.13OluapPlayerSo yes I would in fact prefer England over this
18:59.15Monetwas it hotter before the storm?
18:59.40OluapPlayerNo, temperature hasn't changed
19:00.14HachimanImperios: HEY
19:00.18HachimanVikings did stuff
19:00.18ImperiosyeH
19:00.26HachimanThey became kings of England for one
19:00.35HachimanAfter conquering part of France
19:00.52ImperiosThe Normans were basically Frenchmen at this point, they spoke French hur
19:01.28MonetAnd before France they held land in Sicily
19:01.58HachimanYeah but William was of direct Viking descent
19:05.07ImperiosStill not particularily impressive hur
19:05.34ImperiosThat, and from what I understand William's conquests ultimately *de*-Scandinavised England, by introducing Western European customs
19:06.19MonetHe spoke French and so did his court
19:06.21HachimanI mean
19:06.41HachimanA number of great Russian rulers weren't even native Russians
19:07.09HachimanAlthough you do have Putin so
19:07.11ImperiosYou mean most
19:07.22MonetMedieval nobility was quite egalitarian
19:07.42Monetso long as you were Christian
19:07.49ImperiosThough most royal dynasties were mixed yeah
19:08.47HachimanImperios: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/17155411_1834651633451370_615649641914595829_n.jpg?oh=ff3a704502b2e6bdc561d11f01e688ef&oe=59718365
19:09.00ImperiosBut we won
19:09.19ImperiosWe just did not win as great as we could
19:09.42ImperiosDon't try to offend me hur, I do not like Stalin's foreign policy either
19:09.46MonetThe guy was killed eventually
19:10.24HachimanI wasn't trying to offend, just thought it was funny
19:10.39Monetit just took 505 casualties to bring him down
19:10.54HachimanMonet: He wasn't killed
19:11.06OluapPlayerhey it could be worse, it could be the Emu War
19:11.08HachimanHe died of natural causes in his home in 2002
19:11.41MonetI thought he was finally caught or something
19:12.28HachimanNah, he sustained an injury to his jaw in 1940 after sustaining a direct blow from an explosive bullet to his jaw
19:12.39ImperiosOh yes he had a creepy face hur
19:13.02HachimanHe later woke up on the same day as the Moscow Peace Treaty
19:13.15HachimanIt's very likely that after making a recovery, he'd go back to fighting and sniping
19:16.58MonetI recall a number of Roman emperors weren't Italian
19:17.32ImperiosHachiman: Simo Hayha buried in the lakes under Helsinki, prophesised to reawaken once Finland is threatened once again
19:18.34Imperiosunder the lakes even
19:18.48HachimanHe actually wakes up every winter after hibernating, he's just so well-camouflaged in the snow no one can see him
19:25.11MonetHachiman: "buried under a lake"...waaaait
19:25.53Monetdidnt we write a character that ended up like this?
19:26.11HachimanAye hur
19:28.07MonetWho was also able to take on an army no problem
19:29.41HachimanImperios: Do we have any particular examples where any of us wrote a fic with accidental white savior-esque tropes?
19:29.52MonetGranted its a sniper's job to be invisible even after blowing someone's brains out
19:30.26ImperiosThere was that part of Tantrum Mortimer
19:30.36ImperiosWhere Fictionverse chars ended up in the Fantasyverse
19:31.29HachimanI'm honestly hoping that I never accidentally write a story where there's a white savior-esque overtone
19:31.32ImperiosOh and the Pikmins
19:31.41ImperiosWell, it's a trope like any other
19:31.46OluapPlayerwhite savior-esque
19:31.47OluapPlayerexplain
19:32.05Imperios"Civilised person meets an uncivilised culture and helps them"
19:32.12OluapPlayerAh
19:32.20OluapPlayerDistant Planet fits that
19:32.25HachimanOluapPlayer: White guy (or any general outsider) gets involved with a foreign culture and ends up saving them or fixing their problems for them with his outsider-ness
19:33.11HachimanLike Avatar with the human MC and the Na'vi, or Dancing with Wolves with the white American MC and the Sioux
19:33.19ImperiosYeah joining the uncivilised culture is important
19:33.35ImperiosBear the white man's burden an all that
19:34.08HachimanIt's a trope I honestly find myself hating because it kind of makes the culture that the outsider is joining look incompetent
19:35.06OluapPlayerWhen you're leaf men who can barely coordinate without getting eaten by big rotund lizards, I think you're already very incompetent
19:36.32ImperiosYeah I think it makes sense if one does it well
19:36.51MonetIt's from a neater time
19:37.45MonetMaking the natives look incompetent was part of the point
19:38.22ImperiosI suppose to 19th century colonists it made sense
19:38.51ImperiosYou travel around the world, everyone's primitive, you're starting to feel superior, almost  like a messiah
19:39.24HachimanPAX AMERICANA
19:40.10MonetI have a comparative trope I luke to call A Genius Among Idiots - when someone's intelligence is shown by everyone around them looking like morons
19:40.30ImperiosBrits and Soviet Russians were particularily notorious for this
19:41.17HachimanMonet: The context is different when it's the outsider who has the intelligence
19:41.34HachimanTechnobliterator: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p403x403/17265268_1427566407264568_4362713799032693581_n.jpg?oh=4d006f851ed86360f7e466877dd21883&oe=5928C24F
19:41.39HachimanOh wait you're Green shit
19:41.43HachimanDon't open that
19:42.00Technobliteratorhahaha
19:42.03TechnobliteratorAnd, no I'm not :|
19:42.15HachimanI thought you supported Greens?
19:42.20TechnobliteratorNope
19:42.34TechnobliteratorI voted for them unenthusiastically
19:43.13Hachimanwhat happened to the "muh anti-nuclear energy solution" tho
19:43.21Hachimansolutions* rather
19:43.39TechnobliteratorYeah, I'm not fond of their anti-nuclear stance at all
19:43.40Technobliteratoramong other things
19:43.42MonetGreens are a whole different level
19:43.50HachimanHuh
19:43.55ImperiosDon't you dare take away our nuclear plants
19:43.59Monet<PROTECTED>
19:44.00HachimanI thought you were vehemently anti-nuclear
19:44.15OluapPlayerjo is nuclear, wild and waking up inside
19:44.18TechnobliteratorAnti-nuclear weapons, not anti-nuclear power
19:44.19HachimanKEK
19:44.21HachimanWhoops caps
19:44.27Imperios>anti-nuclear weapons
19:44.36HachimanRight, right
19:44.38ImperiosB-b-but no world wars anymore
19:44.58HachimanNUCLEAR DETERRENCE
19:45.07OluapPlayerhot_coldman.jpg
19:45.16Hachimanyes_noman.png
19:46.01MonetJo doesn't like the deterrence principle and Coldman was a dickhead
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19:46.09Hachiman_Huh well that was weird
19:46.14Hachiman_Anyway
19:46.16TechnobliteratorThis is roughly correct
19:46.19Hachiman_yes_noman.png
19:46.26ImperiosThere's a relevant Gandhi quote from Civ VI
19:46.28ImperiosGimme a moment
19:46.31Hachiman_high_lowman.waterpaint
19:46.37OluapPlayer"Nuke that motherfucker" -Gandhi
19:46.50Hachiman_Also kick that Hachi
19:46.50Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1glsS-MFM3c
19:46.54ImperiosThere we go
19:47.04OluapPlayerI'd rather have 2 Hachis
19:47.38Hachiman_y tho
19:47.40OluapPlayerThis reminds me
19:47.42OluapPlayerImperios: I don't know if you noticed but I've expied Ulduar in the fantasyverse
19:47.52ImperiosWaaait when
19:48.04MonetAn eye for an eye only makes the world blind?
19:48.09OluapPlayerLast week
19:48.10OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AVargash#History
19:48.48ImperiosBOW DOWN BEFORE THE GOD OF DEATH
19:48.55ImperiosNow put Mimiron in it
19:49.18OluapPlayer>Yogg-Saron is a giant mouth         >Vargash is a giant mouth
19:49.20OluapPlayerc it fits
19:50.22OluapPlayerThat was the reason
19:50.23HachimanTHE WEAK MUST FEAR THE STRONG
19:50.32OluapPlayerNow you know you could remove the _
19:50.55HachimanNot while original Hachi is still around
19:50.59HachimanThe original had to die
19:51.19ImperiosThere can be only one
19:51.52OluapPlayerAlso jokes on you I might expy Mimiron too
19:52.00OluapPlayerThough he wouldn't be in Vargash's vault
19:52.39ImperiosIt's not an expy of anything, but for some reason I imagine the PAE's anthem to be Ulduar's theme
19:52.43HachimanIf it means living without being tied to an underscore, then it's not even a choice; I must take the original's place, eliminate the source of it all so I can live without such torment
19:53.02OluapPlayerUlduar's theme is awesome so I can see why you'd want that
19:53.30Hachimanwut theme is dis
19:53.44Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG2VR62_GuU
19:53.47ImperiosThere
19:56.00OluapPlayer1:50 onward is the best part
19:56.39OluapPlayerroyal as fuk
19:57.22ImperiosI can totally see it played somewhere on Elysion
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19:58.45OluapPlayerWotLK has both good and bad music. Ulduar and Icecrown sound fantastic but I can't stand the Grizzly Hills music
19:58.53OluapPlayerSomething about it just annoys the hell out of me
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19:59.08JepardiHi
19:59.32ImperiosNow that I think about it, most modern raids have not been as majestic-looking as those of WotLK
19:59.59dino82_true
20:00.02dino82_the old ones were the best
20:00.02ImperiosThe Emerald Nightmare is cool but the only truly impressive environment there was Xavius's lair
20:00.09dino82_like the one again Kael-Thalas
20:00.12ImperiosOh yes
20:00.22OluapPlayerI thought Firelands looked great
20:00.25ImperiosThe Nighthold was impressive but again, not really majestic
20:00.42ImperiosYeah Firelands were awesome, Throne of Thunder too
20:00.50ImperiosAnd the Mogu'shan Vaults
20:00.52OluapPlayerYeah Throne of Thunder
20:00.53OluapPlayerHeart of Fear too
20:01.04ImperiosBut WoD and Legion's raids have been so-so
20:01.16MonetImperios: quite Draconid in a way
20:01.30OluapPlayerTomb of Sargeras looks like it'll be really good-looking from the pics posted so far
20:01.43OluapPlayerThey went full ham with the elven architecture
20:02.28Monetactually I think I joked with Oluap that Ulduar looked like the Alcanti palace inside
20:02.47OluapPlayerUriel - dont mind the eldritch abomination, we keep it chained
20:03.20ImperiosI really want them not to fuck up Argus
20:03.29ImperiosI bet they will just make it all green and ew
20:03.41ImperiosLegion demon aesthetics are so ugly colour-wise
20:03.44OluapPlayerDID SOMEONE SAY           FEL MAGIC [GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN]
20:04.11OluapPlayerIn the Nighthold though
20:04.21OluapPlayerThat Star Magus guy's boss chamber
20:04.27OluapPlayerWith the planets in the background
20:04.33OluapPlayerThat looked awesome
20:06.03MonetIt's on my bucket list to try and build the Alcanti palace digitally
20:06.26OluapPlayer>Old God-dominated worlds         >tentacles so large they can be seen from space
20:06.40ImperiosActually Japan
20:06.45OluapPlayerhur
20:10.50OluapPlayerBut I don't imagine they'll fuck up Argus. So far Legion has been pretty good
20:11.04OluapPlayerMy only complaint is how certain characters are absent when they really shouldn't
20:12.08ImperiosWhat I want is for Argus to have a distinct aesthetic
20:12.40OluapPlayerI expect warped Draenei asthetics
20:13.22OluapPlayerStuff akin to the Black Temple maybe
20:14.41MonetStandard legion designs wouldn't fit. Argus is a bastion not a forward citadel
20:15.53ImperiosThing is with Legion I think their aesthetic is simply unappealing, which is why they have been mixing it
20:16.11ImperiosThat I think is a big failure
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20:17.00ImperiosBC had beautiful blood elf cities, Northrend had beautiful titan faults and Scourge fortresses, Cataclysm had beautiful Twilight's Hammer architecture with a pleasant colour scheme
20:17.43ImperiosMoP had beautiful Mogu palaces and whatnot, WoD... can't call that beautiful but I really digged Iron Horde technology and its brutal steampunk firey look
20:18.15ImperiosBut the Legion's ugly fortresses and an overabundance of green, I can't get behind
20:18.23ImperiosEven though Suramar and the Emerald Nightmare are great
20:18.31OluapPlayerwell prepare 4 disappointment m8
20:18.43OluapPlayerplanet gon be green and black everywhere
20:19.44ImperiosLiterally nothing but these two colours
20:20.03MonetAlso spaecesheeps
20:20.15OluapPlayerworld of spacecraft reeeeeeeee
20:20.31HachimanIsn't that StarCraft
20:20.46ImperiosThe Legion has FUCKING SPACESHIPS don't you know
20:20.47ImperiosFUCKING
20:20.48ImperiosSPACESHIPS
20:20.51OluapPlayerYes
20:20.57Imperios^ See another proof that Legion aesthetics are ew
20:21.10OluapPlayerActually yeah that's one thing I don't like
20:21.15OluapPlayerThe spaceships can fuck off
20:21.50HachimanWhy is it bad that they have spaceships@
20:21.51MonetWe might be stuck with them
20:21.52Hachiman?
20:22.08OluapPlayerBecause swords and bows vs spaceships
20:22.12ImperiosFUCKING DEMONS
20:22.15ImperiosON FUCKING SPACESHIPS
20:22.27Monet<PROTECTED>
20:22.32OluapPlayerAnd yes, they're demons
20:22.44OluapPlayerThey should be doing demony things, like pop out of portals or explode out of people's bodies
20:22.45ImperiosFUCKING DEMONS ON FUCKING SPACESHIPS, flying across the galaxy killing FUCKING CTHULHUS
20:22.56Monetthen again I am not sure what it is
20:22.59HachimanBut, Warhammer Daemons have spaceships#
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20:23.12Monetit's like a comic book really
20:23.31ImperiosGuess where Warcraft took its nutsy aesthetics from
20:23.34HachimanAnd Warcraft already has a lot of space stuff, like different planets and Great Old Ones / Outer Gods and whatnot
20:23.34ImperiosThat's right, Warhammer
20:24.06OluapPlayerYes, planets we normally reach through the use of portals
20:24.12OluapPlayerNot highly advanced spaceships
20:24.18OluapPlayerGotta keep to the theme you know
20:24.57Hachimanin muh novel da fantasy world will have spacesheeps an heavy masheen gunz
20:25.04OluapPlayerDROPPED
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20:25.58HachimanI really need to stop splerging indefinite nouns all over my work - I'm already working hard to try and avoid passive voice
20:27.30ImperiosHachiman Technobliterator: Apparently on March 8th a group of activists stormed the Kremlin and plastered it with various feminist slogans
20:27.45ImperiosSuch as "Let the woman be the Patriarch" or "Feminism is the national idea"
20:27.51Imperios*Let a woman
20:27.56HachimanHm
20:29.00Imperios(Patriarch is the actual title of the head of the Russian Orthodox Church)
20:29.03Imperios(In that sense)
20:29.09OluapPlayerImperios: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1489327543090.png when they're not prepared
20:30.02HachimanW
20:30.05HachimanFuck
20:31.01HachimanWhite mages in Koldenwelt should be spellcasters who are adept at eradicating other species / races
20:31.21HachimanLed by a Patriarchmage
20:31.44OluapPlayerNow I'm trying to find that one pic of Garrosh laughing at Thrall while he's carrying a cross but I can't
20:31.51OluapPlayerThat's one of my favorite warcraft pictures
20:32.55OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/fGRdBkB.png here we go
20:33.03ImperiosI have Ordnung hur
20:33.20ImperiosOluapPlayer: The last temptation of Christ
20:34.14OluapPlayerAGGRA
20:34.23Monet_2Starring Garrosh as Pontias Pilate.
20:35.09Monet_2In other news, some Thor: Ragnarok pictures have just dropped
20:35.30Monet_2http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/QnGf3aDhfdbNd7vic3Q3u5-650-80.jpg here's Jeff-ah-Gold-ah-blum
20:36.28HachimanHe looks kinda ridiculous hur
20:36.33ImperiosI still wonder how they are going to handle HULK RULING A FUCKING PLANET
20:36.37HachimanSaying that, Thor's new haircut I can get behind
20:36.59Monet_2HAchiman: His source character isn't much better http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/grandmaster-marvel.jpg
20:37.12HachimanAh
20:37.28Monet_2All things considered not too bad a conversion.
20:38.16Monet_2http://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/dyAYnjRmKNYq49gjonNJT5-650-80.jpg also have a Valkyrie.
20:39.09OluapPlayerwhere the wings at
20:39.19Hachimanwhere the white skin at
20:39.40Hachimanwhere the blonde hair at
20:39.46Hachimanfucking progressive valkyries MY ASS
20:39.50OluapPlayerforget that
20:39.54OluapPlayerwings are the important part
20:40.06Monet_2OluapPlayer: Marvel's Valyrie doesn't have them
20:40.11ImperiosHachiman: I still wonder where non-Nordic people on Asgard come from
20:40.15Monet_2http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Valkyrie-Marvel-Comics-Brunnhilde-f.jpg
20:40.20HachimanI just want to know who the fuck is she sitting next to
20:40.20Monet_2She has tit-plates though.
20:40.22ImperiosHeimdall is actually a refugee
20:40.28OluapPlayerwut a ripoff
20:41.03HachimanI just realised
20:41.08ImperiosHm?
20:41.12HachimanThe fucking guy in a kendo helmet has a bottle
20:41.17HachimanHow the fuck is he gonna drink that
20:41.20HachimanWhat even IS he
20:41.24OluapPlayerVery carefully
20:41.49Monet_2Maybe it opens up?
20:43.10Monet_2I like the look of this Valkyrie. She's not white but then again neither is Heimdall.
20:43.46Monet_2And we have at least one Vanir who looks Asian.
20:43.58ImperiosI think she's white
20:44.00ImperiosJust... tannish
20:44.03ImperiosLike Greek or Italian
20:44.10ImperiosOh wait my bad
20:44.14Imperiosjust the lighting
20:44.52ImperiosI still think they're Loa who've applied for refugee status in Asgard
20:45.09ImperiosFucking Odin and his liberal immigration policies, we should vote Loki next time
20:45.35Monet_2Silly Imperios you don't vote for the king.
20:47.22Monet_2Now I'm curious if Ragnarok will contain Beta-Ray Bill
20:49.12Monet_2Making his horse-head work might be tricky.
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21:19.16TreebeardHello
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21:22.10HachimanImperios: Is there anything you'd say separates Koldenwelt from other fantasy settings and makes it stand out overall?
21:22.17HachimanOr is it just like, entirely uninspired
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21:25.52Hachimandid u git muh question
21:25.58ImpyDroidnein
21:26.08HachimanIs there anything you'd say separates Koldenwelt from other fantasy settings and makes it stand out overall?
21:26.11HachimanOr is it just like, entirely uninspired
21:30.09TechnobliteratorPsst
21:30.12TechnobliteratorBorealis War :|
21:32.53OluapPlayeru wish
22:42.44DrodoAwaytest
22:58.20DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Empire#Government
22:58.35DrodoEmpire^ finally got around to writing up the Drodo Empire's new monarchy syste,
22:58.37DrodoEmpire*system
23:00.26DrodoEmpireEssentially, its a constitutional monarchy where the Emperor, in the Drodo tradition, has far-reaching federal power that is restricted by Parliament (who have to grant their consent before the Emperor's decrees become law, but cannot make laws themselves), the Courts (whose justices are appointed by Parliament), and the constitution itself which bans the emperor from doing things Parliament and the Courts do and from violatin
23:01.00DrodoEmpireI figure I might add somewhere that the emperor may bypass Parliament under some circumstances
23:01.04DrodoEmpireOr maybe even bypass it a lot
23:01.36DrodoEmpireReally I figure a lot of the time Parliament will be a bit of a rubber-stamp, and its the Judiciary that'd usually form any sort of opposition
23:53.22DrodoEmpireHoly shot
23:53.24DrodoEmpire*shit
23:53.31DrodoEmpireThere's a 10x unit size mod for Shogun 2
23:54.45DrodoEmpireI'd install it but I don't want to give my computer an aneurysm
23:59.34Tek0516I'm giving the Star Trek: New Horizons mod for Stellaris a try.

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