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15:02.43Monethi
15:10.24HachimanHi
15:11.15OluapPlayerMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl4bkIGgiyc
15:12.04MonetDwagonz!
15:14.21MonetIt looks like you got at least part of your wish for prettier armour
15:15.30OluapPlayerI'm gonna be very surprised if customization isn't included
15:15.35OluapPlayerIt looks very customizable so far
15:18.32MonetTalon/Celebrimbor is strong.
15:18.37MonetTalion*
15:18.59OluapPlayerYep
15:23.55MonetI saw a tweet a few minutes ago that says you will be import nemeses from Shadow.
15:26.40OluapPlayerOh shit really?
15:26.42OluapPlayerThat's awesome
15:28.23MonetThey say everything up to and including the fortress's design is influenced by the Nemesis sytem and no two players will ecnounter the same.
15:29.09MonetThat'll be ambitious if they pull it off, even if it is just a series of maps built on on a mix of pre-defined traits
15:29.24OluapPlayerI assume that's gonna be the case
15:29.34OluapPlayerIf they pull it off though, this game is gonna be amazing
15:30.12MonetMy inner ponce likes the Elven-inspired aesthetic of Talion's army.
15:51.04HachimanI like the fact that Talion / Celebrimbor has taken to armouring his orcs in elvish armour
15:51.39HachimanThere's just something about it which makes it right, given that the ancestors of the orcs used to be elves
15:52.17OluapPlayerI couldn't tell since I don't know the difference between orc and elf armor
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15:52.45TreebeardHello
15:53.05MonetOluapPLayer: Compare Chaos/Beastman and High Elf armour.
15:53.26OluapPlayerI don't know Warhammer fantasy beyond the Vermintide game
15:53.40MonetI think there's a High Elf in that one.
15:53.52HachimanA ranger
15:53.54OluapPlayerThere is, she's wearing a cloak
15:54.02HachimanWho doesn't wear armour
15:54.25MonetOh so she's not a Shadow Warrior
15:54.34MonetI thought she was.
15:55.36MonetBasically Orcs armour themselves in heavy crude slabs of metal, or they add ribs and spikes if they are high-ranking orcs.
15:55.39OluapPlayerStill, provided the game is as good as it looks in that trailer, and that it wasn't super scripted for the sake of epicness, this has a good chance of being my GOTY
15:56.05Hachimanall games are scripted tho
15:56.19OluapPlayerur scripted
15:57.51Monethttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/59/66/bb/5966bbaac3017998725fae367b1d0104.jpg Elfy armour is pwetty.
15:58.09OluapPlayerbig helmet
15:58.21MonetOh yeah, Elves like bird wings.
15:59.12MonetJackson-Tolkien and Warhamemr Fantasy elves sort of go hand-in-hand
16:00.30MonetEspecially when armour is concerned. However in the books, elven swords are straight Gandalf's sword for instance was made for an Elven king of Gondolin.
16:01.13MonetBut for some reason Peter Jackson decided Elves in his films needed exotic curvy crossguardles swords.
16:02.59MonetFrodo's/Bilbo's sword Sting was also Elven-crafted.
16:05.52MonetWhich I guess explains why the sword Talion and Celebrimbor use looks like a classic longsword - it was only after Jackson that elves were all given katana-likes.
16:06.43OluapPlayerTalion's sword is his own, not Brimbor's
16:07.17MonetI read somewhere that Brimbor improved it as time went by.
16:07.40MonetThat and I think he uses a straight sword in his side-campaign.
16:07.41OluapPlayerHe does, if you complete all the sword sidequests
16:07.57OluapPlayerBut it's still just a reforged version of his original ranger sword
16:08.35OluapPlayerThe only weapon that changes drastically with the sidequests is the dagger, since the original is Talion's son's broken sword, which Brimbo turns into an actual dagger
16:09.31Monethttps://images5.alphacoders.com/339/339033.jpg found a picture of Arwen vs the Witch King. This looks badass
16:09.47MonetFuk not Arwen
16:10.12OluapPlayerghostie
16:11.03MonetEowyn, that was it.
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16:12.58NeonPandahi all
16:13.33MonetHi
16:13.39MonetI always found this scene kind of silly https://youtu.be/xPV9JWWtOQ0?t=2m2s
16:14.09MonetWitch-King gets stabbed in the face and his head crumples inward.
16:15.45OluapPlayermajik
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16:18.05JepardiHi
16:18.16ImperiosHiya
16:18.26ImperiosHappy March 8th or something
16:18.49MonetHappy international Womens' day.
16:19.25OluapPlayerHappy Shadow of War day
16:20.12ImperiosOh also that's the 100 years anniversary of the beginning of the February Revolution
16:20.33MonetBut...
16:20.33OluapPlayerImperios: I fought Gul'dan today only to lose connection when he was at 13% health
16:20.35MonetIt's March
16:20.37OluapPlayerWhen I came back he was already dead
16:20.44OluapPlayerHow anticlimatic
16:20.48ImperiosMonet: Julian calendar
16:21.20ImperiosRussia used a slightly different calendar before the Revolution, and the Church still does, which is why our Christmas is in January as opposed to December
16:21.24OluapPlayerAt least I got my mount
16:21.29ImperiosWHA
16:21.33ImperiosYou mean the Infernal?
16:21.39MonetImperios: Oh right the Gregorian calendar has an extra day.
16:21.41OluapPlayerNo no
16:21.44OluapPlayerThe manasaber
16:22.06OluapPlayerI don't think any boss drops mounts in LRF
16:22.07ImperiosThe Julian also does, but has slightly different rules about its placement, which made it slightly out of sync
16:23.11MonetEver so slightly
16:23.23OluapPlayerThe number of people riding manasabers exploded today
16:23.57Monetmeow
16:24.59ImperiosSo not only today is Fuck the Patriarchy Day, it is also Fuck the Tsar Day
16:25.36OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:War_of_the_Ancient_Three I've been updating this
16:25.41MonetImperios: I prefer to think of it as "hooray for the underdog gender" day.
16:25.43OluapPlayerThe DI and the Divinarium still need to be introduced
16:25.50ImperiosFUCK THE TSAR I SAID
16:25.52ImperiosFUCK THE TSAR
16:26.19MonetImperios: It can be both
16:26.28ImperiosI am not even sure for whom my ancestors fought in the Civil War actually
16:27.21ImperiosI THINK they fought for the Reds but I am not sure
16:27.48Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eastern_Republic These fellas
16:29.27ImperiosOIuapPlayer: Lemme check
16:31.23ImperiosTo be honest, the whole situation with Nicholas II makes me feel conflicted
16:31.46ImperiosI mean I hate him as a person for sure
16:31.53HachimanHachi and Gardin are qt
16:32.02HachimanGranted, she's into much older men hur
16:32.31ImperiosBut I believe that we could have achieved more had we peacefully transitioned into a more egalitarian and liberal state
16:32.38HachimanImperios: oi cunt do you want to help me write a novel / worldbuild for a novel
16:32.48HachimanIf the opportunity ever came up, that is
16:32.54ImperiosNot saying democratic because seriously where have you ever seen democracy in Russia
16:32.59ImperiosHachiman: You got me interested
16:33.19TechnobliteratorHappy International "When's Men's Day?"
16:33.23Hachimankek
16:33.29OluapPlayerwow, Hachi is 12 years older than Gardin
16:33.37OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: write Borealis War fuck sake
16:33.45ImperiosTechnobliterator: Lol we don't have that problem
16:33.46Technobliteratorneveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
16:33.47Technobliteratorok
16:33.54OluapPlayerAlso check Ancient Three shizzle
16:33.55ImperiosMen's Day was roughly two weeks ago
16:33.56TechnobliteratorI actually have time today
16:34.00HachimanHappy International "Get Back in the Kitchen" Day
16:34.01TechnobliteratorSeen it
16:34.02OluapPlayerI need to discuss some stuff with you about it later
16:34.03TechnobliteratorGood stuff :o
16:34.31OluapPlayerCan't right now as I'm about to leave
16:34.57OluapPlayerI'll be back in about 5 hours
16:36.26ImperiosI actually wonder
16:36.32ImperiosWhat is March 8th like in the West?
16:36.50HachimanIt's like a day
16:36.52HachimanA bit cloudy
16:37.22MonetA couple of people I know have birthdays today.
16:38.30TechnobliteratorHalf the people post on Facebook about women's rights while doing nothing about them, the other half post Milo Yiannopolis crap, then the few sane people actually talk sense and back their words with action
16:39.13Hachiman>Milo Yiannopolis
16:39.14HachimanLOL
16:39.56TechnobliteratorOr however the fuck you spell his name
16:40.02ImperiosWhat is that guy even about
16:40.06TechnobliteratorI have lots of people sharing/liking his videos
16:40.11ImperiosEveryone and their mother treats him with disgust
16:40.22ImperiosFrom both sides of the political spectrum
16:40.31ImperiosI honestly know zilch about him
16:40.35TechnobliteratorBasically, he's the alt-right poster boy who posts sexist shit and dresses it up as "MUH FREE SPEECH"
16:40.51TechnobliteratorOccasionally, he makes a point worthy of discussion
16:41.09TechnobliteratorBut for the most part, people like him because he unapologetically spews deliberately offensive stuff
16:41.16ImperiosHe's also gay isn't he
16:41.18Monet<PROTECTED>
16:41.32TechnobliteratorHe is
16:42.10TechnobliteratorAnd he's only into black guys, so he wears that around like he can never be racist
16:42.21TechnobliteratorAnd many of his supporters point to him to show that they can never be homophobic
16:42.27Imperiossexual relationships betweebeing only into one particular race is racist
16:42.33Imperiosbeing only into one particular race is racist
16:42.38HachimanWell, no
16:43.11HachimanI'd argue not really because you're not actively discriminating against the race you don't happen to be sexually into unless you are
16:43.22TechnobliteratorI would be inclined to agree
16:43.34TechnobliteratorIt's a personal preference
16:43.37Technobliteratorit's shallow, though
16:43.40ImperiosOkay it may not be racist per se but it's... creepy
16:43.45ImperiosYes, shallow is the word
16:43.54NeonPandaby the strictest definition it is racial discrimination, but that's going by the letter not the intention
16:43.58ImperiosSorry, just coming from personal experience
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16:44.40dromYes hello
16:45.24Technobliteratorhihi
16:45.55dromI am here to politely demand an invite to the Discord
16:46.21HachimanI mean, I personally don't find human women to be all that sexually attractive to me ever since I found out about Martian women
16:46.47Technobliterator:V
16:47.45HachimanSpeaking of which
16:47.54HachimanImperios: Help me make Amazons for Fantasyverse pls
16:48.03ImperiosI already have Amazons doe
16:48.05HachimanNeed tall, strong busty warrior women
16:48.06Hachimanwat
16:48.10HachimanOh wait you do
16:48.14ImperiosCrux Freelanders
16:48.15HachimanThe Crux worshippers
16:48.27ImperiosWhich you can probably use because Crux
17:32.37dromTechnobliterator Monet Imperios: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/260897468353347595/289087568438493185/unknown.png
17:38.12MonetLol
17:38.22MonetThere go the lairs.
17:38.25Monetliars*
18:02.02ImperiosTechnobliterator: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21262710/14889843949520.jpg Say WHAAAAAAAAT
18:02.10ImperiosThe first women in space was Russian
18:06.43MonetI'm seeing more suggestion she was the first -American- woman in space.
18:11.05Tek0516http://smbc-comics.com/comic/sad-truths-mythical-creature-edition
18:38.07dromAMERICA FIRST!!!
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19:21.12XhoREEEE
19:34.38XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/17202673_1874361426175872_1950874413528431434_n.jpg?oh=62508d1c9ef9061f3e446545b1bfc2a7&oe=5970CB6C
19:34.53Hachimanhur
19:34.56HachimanHi
19:36.42XhoAnd yes hi
19:44.12XhoHachiman: http://hesu-amps.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/M212-BK-Meshuggah.jpg I want this amp cabinet nao
19:44.41HachimanOh wow
19:45.06XhoSurprisingly not a fortune
19:46.01XhoAlthough I have to supply them with a custom image
19:46.06XhoLuckily my job is pretty much that so
19:46.38XhoViolent Sleep of Reason graphic would be cool
19:48.47XhoI'd need a 720 mm x 400 mm image though
19:48.57XhoWhich is like 2720 x 1511 px
19:50.57XhoImperios: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6YwQ7fWYAE1ZPE.jpg
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21:09.00XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWQjZxfs4g Guitar playing level: Alien/10
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21:15.14XhoEvening
21:15.27OluapPlayerHi
21:16.32OluapPlayerXho: Good music that which you linked me
21:16.43Xhoaye
21:17.17Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWQjZxfs4g Here's another because this type of guitar playing is actually possible
21:24.02OluapPlayerNot bad but the other track is better imo
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21:32.10Monethi
21:35.21TreebeardHello
21:35.43OluapPlayerHi
21:46.38OluapPlayerXho Hachiman: https://twitter.com/AinsleyCooks/status/839542853231656961 send help
22:00.26XhoOluapPlayer: send help pls
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22:13.35ZF101Hello all.
22:21.35TreebeardHello
22:23.34XhoIs it more or does Shadow of War have a Balrog in it
22:26.07XhoAlright Shadow of War actually looks good
22:30.20XhoIs it me or did Shadow of Mordor have similar combat to the Arkham gamse
22:30.57Xhogames
22:31.03XhoI might have to re-install it
22:36.53OluapPlayerXho: Yes, Arkham combat and Ass Creed controls
22:37.00XhoHuh
22:37.01OluapPlayerAnd yes there's a Balrog in the second game
22:37.01Xhowell
22:37.18XhoI'd rather play as the Balrog lul
22:40.53Xholol black guy in the trailer
22:41.20OluapPlayerwut u got against blacks eh          ainsley is black
22:41.26Xhoyeh bwoi
22:41.42XhoWell they're talking about how black people didn't exist in Middle Earth
22:41.53XhoWhich is true if the game would be canon
22:42.07OluapPlayerThey did, they were just usually servants of Sauron
22:42.15Xhou callin black peepl orcs
22:42.21OluapPlayeryes
22:42.37Xhojesus
22:42.49OluapPlayerBut no there was a nation of men under Sauron's control and they were black skinned
22:42.56OluapPlayerpresumably because Tolkien was Lovecraft in disguise
22:43.08XhoI think that's the Numenoreans you're talking about
22:43.20XhoNumenorans even
22:43.27XhoOr is it
22:43.31XhoNo I was right the first time
22:44.01OluapPlayerThey descend from those
22:44.38XhoBlack Numenoreans then
22:44.56XhoI don't know if they're necessarily black or its a term describing the fact they fell to Sauron
22:45.00OluapPlayerHachi knows how they're called
22:45.03OluapPlayergimme a second
22:45.47XhoHaradrim then
22:45.49OluapPlayerHadadrim
22:45.55OluapPlayerblack hivemind
22:45.59Xhoniggos
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22:46.31HachimanXho: Haradrim / Southrons
22:46.35Xhojust sed
22:46.36OluapPlayerGranted the black guy is in the game for ~progressive~ points, but they might explain it as him being a good Haradrim
22:47.12XhoWould make sense considering Harad is the southernmost mentioned region in Middle Earth
22:48.18OluapPlayerSoM does take place in the south, since that's the inhabitable part of it
22:48.28Xhomurdur
22:48.41XhoI didn't really think the Haradrim were black but it would make sense I guess
22:48.47XhoDark complexion maybe
22:49.00OluapPlayerThey're black, there's some other Sauron-friend humans who are asians apparently
22:49.47OluapPlayerThe big bads of Shadow of Mordor are all Black Numenoreans though
22:49.56OluapPlayeror at least two of them are
22:50.03XhoI sure hope it ain't Easterlings because Tolkien was lacking in imagination at that point
22:50.15OluapPlayerYes those were asians
22:50.20OluapPlayerApparently Tolkien hated asians
22:50.21Xhogod dangit tolkien
22:50.36XhoWell he was a Brit of the 20th century so it isn't surprising
22:50.42Xhotally ho colonials
22:50.57XhoSo Black Numenoreans then
22:50.58Xhohm
22:51.09OluapPlayerThe Black Hand and the Tower are Black Numenoreans
22:51.25OluapPlayerThe Hammer might be a non-black one, who knows
22:51.29OluapPlayerBut he's too old to be a normal man
22:51.33XhoWell never really knew that
22:51.42XhoI take it the Black Hand is mega tall
22:51.50XhoI don't really remember the game
22:51.59OluapPlayerNo, the Tower is the big one
22:52.27XhoWell that makes sense dur
22:52.31OluapPlayerThe Black Hand is weird, might be a sorcerer, might be Sauron using an avatar, the game leaves it ambiguous in a dumb way
22:53.07XhoNumenoreans are described as being super tall
22:53.42OluapPlayerThe Tower is about 1.5x Talion's size and is described as continuously growing in a suit of armor he can't remove
22:53.54OluapPlayerThe armor doesn't grow with him
22:54.01Xhohashtag pain
22:54.30OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/middleearthshadowofmordor7723/images/e/eb/Middleearthshadowofmordor_blackcaptain_screenshot.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170308170731
22:54.43Xhocheese
22:54.47XhoAh here we are
22:55.30XhoElendil was a Numenorean and was shy of eight feet tall
22:55.37Xho2.41 m
22:57.12XhoAlthough most of them were taller than 6'4" or 1.93 m
22:58.01XhoThey have pretty cool names as well
22:58.06Xhohttp://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/King_of_N%C3%BAmenor
22:58.38OluapPlayerna-meeee
23:01.13XhoOne thing that others me is trying to work out Galadriel's age
23:01.36XhoShe was born before the First Age so time before that point starts becoming difficult to equate
23:03.27XhoThe age in which she was born in is equated to roughly being 9 times longer in count than the Ages
23:03.53OluapPlayergranny
23:03.56OluapPlayerbrb
23:05.58Xho1197 + ??? + ~600 + 3441 + 3021
23:06.11XhoSo she's at least 8000 years old
23:12.23XhoYears of the Sun aren't counted so we can assume probably up to 10,000
23:23.28OluapPlayervery granny

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