| 00:02.27 | Xho | Now someone needs to make a Prak Jaws in the Fantasyverse |
| 00:04.02 | Xho | >literally turns up in every story to kill everyone |
| 00:04.11 | OluapPlayer | hr |
| 00:04.15 | OluapPlayer | hur blah |
| 00:04.50 | Xho | I would have thrown the mouse at that point |
| 00:04.59 | Xho | Seemed like eternal torment |
| 00:09.54 | OluapPlayer | He was playing rather badly, Prak wasn't even immune to executions |
| 00:10.13 | OluapPlayer | You can stunlock uruks not immune to executions to death |
| 00:10.53 | OluapPlayer | Anyway dinner time |
| 00:11.40 | OluapPlayer | nevermind not ready yet |
| 00:11.43 | OluapPlayer | time 4 starvation |
| 00:13.27 | Xho | dat emaciation tho |
| 00:16.35 | OluapPlayer | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/105105299714003606/74C26D8FFC92D7B3D43F7B51C11049EAF3C6542D/ I had this guy too, I liked him |
| 00:18.00 | Xho | See the logic works in that game |
| 00:19.46 | OluapPlayer | I think he was a no-name uruk who got promoted after killing me |
| 00:19.48 | OluapPlayer | Hence the name |
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| 02:27.18 | DrodoEmpire | Tek0516 https://i.gyazo.com/a2572457a29ba8342663927c564da044.png |
| 02:28.03 | Tek0516 | ... |
| 02:28.40 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 02:56.38 | DrodoEmpire | Shadilay, my dudes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcxal9VAFww |
| 02:56.51 | DrodoEmpire | REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 03:29.54 | Wormy_F4 | gg gn |
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| 10:57.58 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 10:59.16 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:18.30 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: So apparently the February Revolution actually began on March 8th |
| 11:18.32 | ImpyDroid | I bet the feminists were behind this |
| 11:18.57 | Liquid_Ink | ? |
| 11:19.29 | Liquid_Ink | Isn't that because you were still using the Julian calendar? |
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| 11:20.01 | ImpyDroid2 | Liquid_Ink: Yeah |
| 11:20.23 | ImpyDroid2 | According to the old calendar it began in February, hence the name |
| 11:20.29 | ImpyDroid2 | But it actually began in March |
| 11:22.16 | ImpyDroid2 | But yes in a week or two we can celebrate the anniversary of the abdication of the Tsar |
| 11:22.21 | ImpyDroid2 | DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR |
| 11:23.30 | Liquid_Ink | DEATH TO IMPERIALISM |
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| 12:09.41 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:09.47 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 13:18.59 | matly | sup |
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| 13:24.02 | matly | hello Wormy_ |
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| 14:09.42 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 14:43.04 | Xho | AAAAA |
| 14:43.43 | OluapPlayer | b |
| 14:45.07 | Xho | correct |
| 14:45.08 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 14:55.58 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:24.52 | Monet | Hello |
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| 15:41.31 | Hachiman | Bonfuck |
| 15:41.59 | Monet | Hallo |
| 15:45.29 | Xho | oui oui |
| 15:52.53 | Xho | Hachiman Imperios OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/15/Arcadians2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170304155208 Made the Arcadians |
| 15:53.10 | Hachiman | Xho: Nice work on the Arcadians |
| 15:53.15 | Xho | doi |
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| 15:54.07 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
| 15:54.25 | Groxkiller98 | What was that city they took off ISIS recently? >_> |
| 15:54.54 | Xho | Mosul? |
| 15:55.25 | Hachiman | Palmyra |
| 15:55.32 | Groxkiller98 | Thanks. |
| 15:57.52 | Groxkiller98 | Also, I'm making some new creatures. |
| 15:58.01 | Groxkiller98 | For the tribe/civ/space stage. |
| 15:58.21 | Groxkiller98 | Chookes is the first - It's even on the Sporepedia. |
| 16:01.43 | Groxkiller98 | http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-501046175928 - Space Stage version. |
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| 16:51.20 | Groxkiller98 | gtg |
| 17:04.33 | Imperios | Xho: They look alien |
| 17:05.24 | Xho | thats the joke |
| 17:09.57 | Hachiman | Can I just say that I'm not entirely fond of how a certain set of comparatively young users isolate themselves in the Fantasyverse and use it and whatnot but don't conform to the rules or important lore that we set for the world |
| 17:10.26 | Hachiman | Like, the Herjon City States having ownership of *muskets with bayonets* in an otherwise lower-end fantasy setting |
| 17:10.50 | Hachiman | Well, I say lower-end as in the technological tier |
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| 17:20.03 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.27 | Monet | "very pure steel" |
| 17:21.45 | Monet | I don't quite think that's how steel works. |
| 17:22.32 | Hachiman | He has an army page for the Herjon; "penal musketmen" or something along those lines are listed there |
| 17:23.02 | Hachiman | Why the FUCK would you give drafted convicts use over weapons as revolutionary and powerful as *muskets* |
| 17:25.04 | Hachiman | Ideally, the most recently-developed gun that could be compared to a musket is an arquebus, which I imagine is the pinnacle of gun technology outside of the hand cannons that the Empire of Man produces |
| 17:25.07 | Monet | Give them crossbows perhaps |
| 17:28.07 | Xho | ordnung machine gun |
| 17:28.12 | Xho | kobold!dakka |
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| 17:32.45 | Monet | hi |
| 17:32.47 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 17:32.53 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 17:45.04 | Xho | Hachiman: y'all need nalashtannylor 4 quik smiting |
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| 18:21.19 | Wormy_ | Monet: Fallout 4 gave me a rich feeling of melancholy last night. |
| 18:22.14 | Wormy_ | I was sitting on my couch in the front room of the old house you start out the game in, the sky was a twilight grey/blue, it was raining, and I was listening to the classical radio when a pinano song came on. |
| 18:23.12 | Wormy_ | Say what you will about Bethesda, games like Skyrim and Fallout have detailed and varied environmental aesthetics, that change with the weather, time and events |
| 18:23.44 | Wormy_ | The rain was falling through the ceiling too |
| 18:23.57 | OluapPlayer | https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cTjscL_WLeY/VywwKFsuwXI/AAAAAAAAAag/rgXXIWwkCUse6WpA0nwUFFVUTGAK7Zh7QCLcB/s1600/dinopithecus-size.jpg I just found out about this |
| 18:24.00 | OluapPlayer | Giant baboons |
| 18:24.18 | Monet | Wormy_: Bethesda creates rough diamonds |
| 18:24.36 | Wormy_ | I wouldn't want to face a living baboon up close, a giant baboon is even more scary |
| 18:25.01 | OluapPlayer | A man-sized baboon |
| 18:25.07 | OluapPlayer | That thing could probably tear a man apart |
| 18:25.27 | Wormy_ | That's thing's bigger than a man really |
| 18:25.43 | OluapPlayer | I nearly said "giant rainbow-coloured butt" but those are mandrills, not baboons |
| 18:25.47 | OluapPlayer | almost confused my bananas there |
| 18:26.05 | Xho | giant ass scary ass motherfucker |
| 18:26.14 | Monet | After actualyl visiting Novigrad in Witcher III I have mixed opinions. |
| 18:26.29 | Monet | I've seen peopel praise the living daylights over how massive and alive Novigrad is |
| 18:26.43 | OluapPlayer | Why, you don't like it? |
| 18:26.47 | OluapPlayer | Witcher 3 looks fucking gorgeous |
| 18:27.16 | OluapPlayer | Toussaint is probably the most beautiful place in a videogame I've ever seen |
| 18:27.38 | Monet | I love it! But I've seen people wishing Bethesda cities could be that big. |
| 18:27.45 | Wormy_ | Monet: I guess so from what other people comment, having not played F1 and F2 made by BIS, I haven't experienced what was missing |
| 18:27.46 | Xho | Caesar's fort is more beautifuk #avecaesar |
| 18:27.53 | Xho | beautifuk |
| 18:27.54 | OluapPlayer | Bethesda "cities" are just a dozen houses |
| 18:27.55 | Xho | That's about right |
| 18:28.33 | Xho | The amount of memory required to render actual cities and then the open world for Bethesda games would destroy them outright |
| 18:28.43 | Monet | Exactly |
| 18:29.14 | Xho | Just how open is Witcher 3 exactly |
| 18:29.23 | OluapPlayer | Very, but not completely |
| 18:29.27 | OluapPlayer | Some areas are separate |
| 18:29.32 | Monet | Most citizens I saw in Novigrad had only one or two lines, a number of them with generic names like 'beggar' |
| 18:29.40 | OluapPlayer | But Witcher 3's maps are HUGE |
| 18:29.47 | OluapPlayer | Huge and with things in them |
| 18:29.52 | Xho | le |
| 18:29.53 | Xho | l |
| 18:30.22 | Monet | What bethesda's cities lack in scale they make up for by making sure every person has a story. |
| 18:30.32 | Xho | And clipping trees |
| 18:30.38 | OluapPlayer | every one of the 20 inhabitants of the capital |
| 18:30.56 | Xho | Never really struck me until now that the capital city in a Bethesda game is fucking tiny |
| 18:30.59 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Did you play Bright Lord in Shadow of Mordor? |
| 18:31.10 | Xho | Then again 99% of the time there are no inhabitants in the city because massacre and whatnot |
| 18:31.12 | Monet | OluapPLayer: I started it |
| 18:31.30 | OluapPlayer | I was playing until a while ago |
| 18:31.35 | OluapPlayer | This is way harder than the main game |
| 18:31.47 | Xho | What about Dark Souls |
| 18:31.52 | Xho | I always had the idea that it was linear |
| 18:32.07 | OluapPlayer | Dark Souls is nonlinear |
| 18:32.07 | Monet | Exploring Novigrad I got an AC vibe where I was surrounded by people I'd probably forget five minutes later and existed only to fill out the scene. |
| 18:32.12 | OluapPlayer | Dark Souls 1 at least |
| 18:32.32 | Xho | Tempted to get Dark Souls but I don't know how much of a temper you need to play it |
| 18:32.36 | OluapPlayer | The whole world is interconnected and there are no loading zones |
| 18:32.52 | OluapPlayer | Dark Souls 2 and 3 are more linear in design, 3 especially |
| 18:33.12 | Monet | The people wishing to have cities the scale of Novigrad with the intimacy of the inhabitants of Rivet City, that's a huge ask. |
| 18:33.30 | Xho | dosh |
| 18:33.51 | Xho | Fallout's cities make more sense since I can't imagine much of a populace anywhere |
| 18:34.01 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how beggars are any different than one NPC who follows the exact same routine every day just because they have a name |
| 18:34.09 | OluapPlayer | imo Witcher 3's cities feel much more natural |
| 18:34.41 | Monet | The NPC wh ofollows |
| 18:34.44 | Monet | Sorry |
| 18:35.31 | Xho | The most natural city in a game? Sims #kek #goodjoke |
| 18:35.56 | OluapPlayer | Well, they're not bad at all |
| 18:36.07 | OluapPlayer | They just cost one gorillion dollars with all expansions included |
| 18:36.09 | Monet | The child in White Orchard does nothing it seems but sing "it's raining it's pouring, Emeris is snoring" |
| 18:36.14 | Xho | Sims 4 doesn't have that openness that Sims 3 does |
| 18:36.20 | Xho | Which perplexes me |
| 18:36.30 | OluapPlayer | ea.jpg |
| 18:37.00 | Xho | " Returning NPC: Tragic Clown." |
| 18:37.01 | Xho | NO |
| 18:37.11 | Xho | Tragic Clown is the Prak Jaws of the Sims |
| 18:37.26 | Monet | Xho: Don't buy his picture then |
| 18:37.36 | OluapPlayer | honk |
| 18:37.38 | Xho | Funny because he's dead in Sims 3 |
| 18:37.40 | Xho | I think |
| 18:37.53 | OluapPlayer | dats tragic |
| 18:37.59 | Monet | I never liked that mime artist who visited parties. |
| 18:38.03 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_wWdposQc |
| 18:38.08 | Xho | le mime |
| 18:38.15 | OluapPlayer | merde |
| 18:38.45 | Xho | I miss Sims 1 |
| 18:38.45 | Monet | I tell him to go away and he pulls out a llama hand puppet, covers his mouth and shouts with the llama "NOOOOOOHH" |
| 18:38.58 | OluapPlayer | sul sul |
| 18:39.26 | OluapPlayer | I remember spending days playing Sims 1 Making Magic |
| 18:39.35 | OluapPlayer | and getting dragon pets would eventually set the house on fire |
| 18:39.38 | Xho | va va vo ba ba |
| 18:39.50 | Monet | Agnes Crumplebottom was funny. |
| 18:40.06 | Monet | Any couple she saw being romantic she'd hit them with her handbag. |
| 18:40.20 | OluapPlayer | There was also the gnome who did gardening, but if you hired a professional gardener he'd get super pissed off and destroy all your plants |
| 18:41.30 | OluapPlayer | in case of attack by hag, hit the hag back twice harder |
| 18:42.04 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QAUASRWBAo |
| 18:42.39 | OluapPlayer | >all those red bars |
| 18:42.40 | OluapPlayer | aaaaaaaa |
| 18:43.55 | OluapPlayer | dude's so ugly he can break monitors just by turning them on |
| 18:44.48 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT5jOrwqECQ LET'S JUST STAND THERE AND SCREAM |
| 18:45.36 | OluapPlayer | here we see the wild sims doing the death dance as they make no effort to escape flames |
| 18:46.01 | Xho | This game was scarily dark come to think of it |
| 18:46.07 | Xho | I mean the death screams from children |
| 18:46.46 | OluapPlayer | I didn't even know you could kill children |
| 18:46.57 | Xho | yup |
| 18:47.03 | Xho | This game was brutal |
| 18:47.09 | OluapPlayer | Generally people only died in my games when I did the "remove the pool ladder" thing |
| 18:47.13 | Monet | In 2 I once had one of my children go cloudwatching |
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| 18:47.37 | OluapPlayer | Then they got crushed by a satellite or meteor |
| 18:47.39 | OluapPlayer | I've had that happen |
| 18:47.42 | OluapPlayer | Annoying as hell |
| 18:47.44 | Monet | He died by a stray meteor on his first time cloudwatching. |
| 18:48.17 | OluapPlayer | Lesson learned: stay in-doors on your computers or die via meteor strike |
| 18:50.10 | Xho | yup |
| 18:53.06 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of extinct animals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platybelodon there's also this goofy looking geezer |
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| 18:54.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 18:54.35 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 18:56.08 | Xho | Hi |
| 18:56.09 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44xrCm_ieY |
| 18:57.59 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkG-VzOAZH0 This is also pretty dark and funny |
| 19:02.09 | Wormy_ | Oluap: Dinocrocuta was a hyena-like carnivoran as big as a bear http://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/d/dinocrocuta-size.jpg |
| 19:02.34 | Monet | Scary teeth |
| 19:03.19 | OluapPlayer | fok |
| 19:03.55 | OluapPlayer | Modern day hyenas are already nasty buggers, imagine one that big |
| 19:20.17 | Wormy_ | It is known to have hunted tusked rhinoceros, where remains have bite marks of Dinocrocuta that healed, implying it survived |
| 19:20.38 | Wormy_ | a hunt rather than being scavenged on |
| 19:20.57 | Wormy_ | the bite marks were on the skull of the rhino, so it might have tried to crush it |
| 19:28.12 | OluapPlayer | Badass superhyena |
| 19:28.36 | Wormy_ | I used to have an obsession with extinct mammalian predators, particularly the mesyonchids and creodonts, which were unrelated to Carnivorans but had some convergent evolution, though they tended to be much bigger and more robust looking. They lost competition with Carnivorans however because the latter were more efficiently designed, had bigger brains and the feliforms could grapple |
| 19:30.04 | Wormy_ | *Mesonychia |
| 19:33.00 | OluapPlayer | There's also the Entelodonts |
| 19:33.08 | OluapPlayer | >sometimes facetiously termed hell pigs or terminator pigs |
| 19:33.10 | OluapPlayer | dem names |
| 19:34.00 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.35 | OluapPlayer | big ass pupper |
| 19:36.04 | OluapPlayer | I was surprised when I found out dire wolves are an actual extinct species of wolf and not something Dungeons and Dragons came up with |
| 19:36.56 | Wormy_ | I wonder if they could have become dogs |
| 19:37.35 | Xho | direbork |
| 19:37.41 | OluapPlayer | Gray wolves became dogs, not dire wolves |
| 19:37.49 | Wormy_ | Just a note: Sarkastodon to the right was bigger than a cave bear by some measures |
| 19:37.55 | OluapPlayer | Though from what I read, dire wolves weren't really special in appearance |
| 19:38.26 | Wormy_ | And its panzying around Andrewsarchus in the hope it leaves a few remains |
| 19:38.36 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.59 | Monet | Served a target some ill-prepared fugu, |
| 19:39.35 | OluapPlayer | Whenever cave bears are mentioned I'm lead to this pic https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Ursus_spelaeus_juvenile.jpg |
| 19:39.47 | OluapPlayer | This skelly looks like he's about to break into a musical segment |
| 19:40.38 | OluapPlayer | >The average weight for males was 400 to 500 kilograms (880 to 1,100 lb), with an exceptional specimen weighing up to 1,000 kilograms (2,200 lb), |
| 19:40.39 | OluapPlayer | big teddies |
| 19:41.23 | Wormy_ | Another thing of note is the Miacid the bottom right, at this point the ancestors of all Carnivorans and not much more than a ferret sized creature hiding among the roots while the big boys come out for dinner |
| 19:43.29 | Wormy_ | On dire wolves, I meant if they could have become dogs, I know they weren't, but could they have gone down that path? |
| 19:43.53 | Wormy_ | Or were they too mean |
| 19:44.24 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 19:44.52 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the results wouldn't be too different to gray wolves-turned-dogs |
| 19:45.10 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
| 19:45.38 | OluapPlayer | Also I find bears impressive creatures |
| 19:46.39 | Wormy_ | I'm sort of glad they don't roam the British countryside anymore, its nice to go for a picnic in the woods and not get eaten |
| 19:47.17 | OluapPlayer | Bears existed in the UK? |
| 19:47.37 | Wormy_ | Until the lower middle ages, yes |
| 19:47.40 | Xho | Or more importantly, your picnic |
| 19:47.58 | OluapPlayer | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Baby_Pandas.JPG fluff |
| 19:48.51 | OluapPlayer | I don't think there were ever any species of bear south of the USA in America |
| 19:48.54 | Wormy_ | Arctotherium Augustidens, Short-Faced Bear, Eurasian Cave Bear, Polar Bear, Kodiak Bear http://www.earthlymission.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/biggest-bears-polar-infographics_3.jpg |
| 19:49.13 | OluapPlayer | Bears in the amazon forest sounds spooky |
| 19:49.42 | OluapPlayer | Fuck imagine that biggest bear standing on its hind legs |
| 19:50.24 | Xho | You'd call it sir that's for sure |
| 19:50.37 | Wormy_ | Arctotherium actually roamed South America according to Wikipedia, and would have faced the giant sloth |
| 19:50.50 | OluapPlayer | Giant bear vs giant sloth |
| 19:50.52 | OluapPlayer | cool vs awesome |
| 19:51.05 | Wormy_ | Hm, there's an animated fight somewhere |
| 19:51.05 | OluapPlayer | Also, on the subject of sir bear http://i.imgur.com/tAV3wHl.png |
| 19:51.41 | Xho | Mhor - yup |
| 19:52.20 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhJ4dSPtfi0 |
| 19:54.06 | OluapPlayer | Sloth - i must break you |
| 19:55.09 | OluapPlayer | Good video that |
| 19:55.18 | OluapPlayer | I don't imagine a lot of things would mess with a ground sloth |
| 19:56.12 | OluapPlayer | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Uakari_male.jpg oh god this looks so ugly |
| 19:56.20 | OluapPlayer | It's like its whole head got stung by a bee |
| 19:56.45 | OluapPlayer | Sore thumb, the monkey |
| 19:59.04 | Wormy_ | the proboscis monkey is another weird looking one |
| 20:01.31 | OluapPlayer | Proboscis monkey looks like a cartoon alien from the 60s |
| 20:02.43 | Wormy_ | I bet if any escaped in the 60's people would report it as an alien |
| 20:02.47 | Wormy_ | would have |
| 20:03.22 | OluapPlayer | The big-noses from planet Proboscis |
| 20:09.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Imperios ImpyDroid |
| 20:09.06 | DrodoEmpire | I got a quick question |
| 20:09.37 | OluapPlayer | >The monkey also goes by the Indonesian name monyet belanda ("Dutch monkey"), or even orang belanda ("Dutchman"), as Indonesians remarked that the Dutch colonisers often had similarly large bellies and noses. |
| 20:09.39 | OluapPlayer | rude |
| 20:09.52 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 20:09.58 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 20:10.44 | DrodoEmpire | ImpyDroid2 even |
| 20:11.28 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Hmm? |
| 20:12.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I was just wondering-- didn't South Arabian pagans, pre-Islam, depict their gods in really abstract, nonhuman forms? |
| 20:12.31 | DrodoEmpire | Thought you might be able to confirm |
| 20:16.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, doing my own research and so far it doesn't seem so |
| 20:16.08 | DrodoEmpire | Which is strange... |
| 20:16.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wait |
| 20:16.49 | Wormy_ | Well check these depictions of Angels in the Old Testament, which likely came from pagan and proto-Abrahamic imagery http://mckitterick.tumblr.com/post/141265586290 |
| 20:16.59 | Wormy_ | *descend |
| 20:16.59 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it was the Nabataeans who represented their gods in the abstract it seems |
| 20:17.12 | DrodoEmpire | Their head god was commonly represented as a cube, or cuboid shape |
| 20:17.35 | Tek0516 | Holy fuck this building's fire alatm is deafening. |
| 20:17.45 | DrodoEmpire | Uh oh |
| 20:17.49 | DrodoEmpire | What's wrong? |
| 20:17.53 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: Thanks |
| 20:18.02 | Tek0516 | It literally hurt to even get near the actual alarm in our apartment. |
| 20:18.09 | DrodoEmpire | Jeezus... |
| 20:19.12 | Wormy_ | I love this line, "Thereâs a good reason why angelsâ standard greeting is âDo not be afraidâ." |
| 20:19.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^ |
| 20:19.38 | DrodoEmpire | I ask mostly because I had a similar idea for the Drodo-- that some pantheons may also represent their gods in a really abstract or exotic way, so it'd help to have inspiration |
| 20:20.08 | DrodoEmpire | Some might even blur the lines between animism and polytheism, by saying, perhaps, that their god is, quite literally, -that- specific mountain |
| 20:20.12 | DrodoEmpire | For example |
| 20:20.43 | Tek0516 | It is also really fucking cold and I'm not even dressed. >.< |
| 20:20.46 | Wormy_ | I recall watching a documentary, and early Jewish depicted God as a holy space, so they would sculpt a chamber and nothing-else |
| 20:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 20:20.58 | DrodoEmpire | I wonder if some may add a religious significance to mathematics even |
| 20:21.05 | Wormy_ | *about the early Jewish |
| 20:22.43 | Wormy_ | There was a lot of religious thinking in early mathematics, I think zero or example was obscured because it seemed so artificial |
| 20:23.03 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, right |
| 20:23.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the Babylonians in particular were an odd example |
| 20:23.42 | DrodoEmpire | They were deeply mathematical and analytical, and kept some of the best records of the ancient world-- but they were also amazingly superstitious |
| 20:23.56 | OluapPlayer | Starring Mount Doom as Satan |
| 20:24.00 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:24.13 | DrodoEmpire | You perhaps wouldn't realise from how dry and accurate their records were, but they were |
| 20:26.45 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic_religion |
| 20:27.15 | Wormy_ | I'm interested in melting pot of religions that was occuring around time of Christ |
| 20:27.18 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:27.26 | DrodoEmpire | I love classical and ancient theology |
| 20:27.32 | DrodoEmpire | Its so different from today |
| 20:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | And its what I largely base Drodo theology off of |
| 20:30.04 | Wormy_ | There was a lot of crossover between East and West https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Central_Asian_Buddhist_Monks.jpeg |
| 20:30.53 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:30.55 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Grace_of_Winter So I went and did something unusual for once |
| 20:31.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh nice |
| 20:31.42 | DrodoEmpire | I really like the model |
| 20:33.16 | DrodoEmpire | ...I really do need to write more on Drodo religion in general >.< |
| 20:33.28 | DrodoEmpire | Its pretty interesting for me, and I figure it'd be a thing that'd be unique |
| 20:35.48 | OluapPlayer | Well that's an unusual character |
| 20:35.51 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:36.06 | Xho | long gallery of psychos fairy |
| 20:36.15 | Xho | I had the idea for a while |
| 20:36.44 | Wormy_ | I know you are revulsed by OA, but I find the space religions on it pretty cool. Some refer to the ancient Near East syncretics cast in sci-fi form, like the escapist gnostics trying to escape the laws of physics, but essentially defeating the purpose because they can't escape rules of some kind or another |
| 20:37.54 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 20:38.12 | DrodoEmpire | Well... Yeah, I'm no fan of OA but they got some cool ideas on there for sure |
| 20:59.07 | Wormy_ | Drodo: The intellectual / religious world of Alexandria https://youtu.be/9KT_y_kS_rM?t=1h26m31s |
| 20:59.38 | Wormy_ | a loooong list of cults, religions and mystery schools all co-existing |
| 21:05.20 | DrodoEmpire | Oh cool |
| 21:06.08 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Grace_of_Winter There we go |
| 21:07.18 | DrodoEmpire | I like it |
| 21:07.27 | DrodoEmpire | Really different from your other stuff, its cool |
| 21:10.08 | Wormy_ | These seem suitably exotic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnosophists |
| 21:14.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hh |
| 21:14.31 | DrodoEmpire | *Huh |
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| 21:18.42 | drom | hi |
| 21:19.56 | drom | I came to here because I remembered some of you play WoW. So I came to ask about a realm I most likely stumble across any of you |
| 21:24.07 | Wormy_ | I would play, but I think I would become addicted, so stay away from wow |
| 21:24.16 | Wormy_ | *so I |
| 21:47.06 | drom | Wormy_: Yeah, understandable |
| 21:47.50 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire, ImpyDroid2 what the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Sutras |
| 21:48.04 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:48.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 21:48.17 | DrodoEmpire | Chinese Christianity was an interesting thing |
| 22:03.48 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUEFTj-tv3I Mat Zo is a very ok artist <.< |
| 22:13.48 | ImpyDroid2 | Wormy_away: It makes sense for me |
| 22:14.09 | ImpyDroid2 | DrodoEmpire: Sorry for not answering |
| 22:14.36 | ImpyDroid2 | I am not sure about abstract depictions of gods being common among Arabs, Kaaba for example housed LOTS of idols before Mhbamm |
| 22:14.40 | ImpyDroid2 | *Muhammad |
| 22:14.53 | ImpyDroid2 | Prophet Mhbamm, peace be upon him |
| 22:15.41 | ImpyDroid2 | And, logically if personifief depictions of gods were not already common in Arab paganism, there would be no reason to ban it |
| 22:16.13 | ImpyDroid2 | Was that helpful? |
| 22:16.37 | ImpyDroid2 | FFFFUUUUUU |
| 22:18.15 | Wormy_away | I just find syncretism interesting. I watching this series called Wild China, and there's a mountain in the Himalayas that is visited by a pilgrimage of 5 different religions. Notably the Hindus and Tibetan Buddhists were trying to upstage each other with coloured material and singing, but all the people of religious faiths erected a tall pole with items and colours of their faith. It was competitive but peaceful and communa |
| 22:18.20 | ImpyDroid2 | Wormy_away: This text actually uses the same symbol as used for Buddha to refer to God, and translates the term "saint" as "arhat" |
| 22:18.37 | ImpyDroid2 | Which I suppose makes sense |
| 22:19.06 | Wormy_away | interesting |
| 22:19.20 | ImpyDroid2 | Korean Christians still refer to God as "Heaven" BTW |
| 22:19.41 | Wormy_away | I see |
| 22:19.44 | ImpyDroid2 | "Haneunim", or "His Majesty Heaven" |
| 22:19.46 | drom | Monet Wormy_away: http://i.imgur.com/pPNvf6a.jpg |
| 22:20.14 | Wormy_away | purrty fox |
| 22:20.19 | ImpyDroid2 | There were actually lots of terms in Chinese for God because a personified monotheistic deity was a difficult concept to grasp for East Asian culture |
| 22:20.38 | ImpyDroid2 | As far as I remember three terms have been prevalent in China |
| 22:20.38 | Wormy_away | I bet |
| 22:21.06 | ImpyDroid2 | "Tian", or Heaven, which is probably the closest you have to God in Chinese religion |
| 22:21.23 | ImpyDroid2 | "Shangdi", which is the name of the supreme deity in ancient Chinese religion |
| 22:21.45 | ImpyDroid2 | "Supreme Deity" or something |
| 22:21.55 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/ptZBwMo.gifv |
| 22:22.01 | Wormy_away | a lot of Chinese gods are like wise old men, like the Jade Emperor |
| 22:22.24 | ImpyDroid2 | Interestingly the "di" in "shangdi" is the same as in "huangdi", or "emperor" |
| 22:24.15 | ImpyDroid2 | This was a deliberate decision by Qin Shi Huang AFAIK, to show that he was equal to the gods |
| 22:24.41 | ImpyDroid2 | And apparently the last term used is "Tianzhu", or "Lord of Heaven" |
| 22:26.11 | Wormy_away | I remember reading that Chinese Emperors were believed to own the entire world, and when foreign powers didn't appear to respect this, it was very strange for the Chinese people |
| 22:26.50 | ImpyDroid2 | They considered every foreign ruler to be a tributary |
| 22:27.00 | ImpyDroid2 | Or a barbarian who had to be made into one |
| 22:31.22 | OluapPlayer | There we go, 100% completed Middle-earth Shadow of Mordor |
| 22:31.24 | ImpyDroid2 | Hm, interesting that so many languages have different terminology for supreme deities and normal ones |
| 22:31.26 | OluapPlayer | Now I'm ready for the sequel |
| 22:31.42 | ImpyDroid2 | One term for God, the other for gods |
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| 22:44.02 | Wormy_away | hi |
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