| 00:09.56 | Tek0516 | Fuck. So close to capture and I lost it. |
| 00:10.27 | Tek0516 | Cornered it for an hour only for it to run away. >.< |
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| 04:05.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 04:18.44 | DrodoEmpire | I should start drawing again :p |
| 04:19.00 | DrodoEmpire | I used to be... not good, not even okay at it, but not horrid either? |
| 04:19.06 | DrodoEmpire | I also used to enjoy it |
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| 05:00.30 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 05:02.03 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
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| 08:07.04 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 08:07.14 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/207/168/292.jpg |
| 08:07.30 | Liquid_Ink | Oh dear |
| 08:07.59 | ImpyDroid | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/225/600/be5.jpg Here's another one |
| 08:08.54 | Liquid_Ink | Hurr |
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| 10:53.11 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:54.02 | dino82_ | hi |
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| 13:20.52 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 13:21.18 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 13:24.40 | OluapPlayer_ | hi |
| 13:24.41 | OluapPlayer_ | ImpyDroid2: poke |
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| 13:32.02 | Monet | afternoon |
| 13:32.10 | drom | Hello |
| 13:32.13 | drom | Ghelae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRY5F2IsKRs |
| 13:36.13 | drom | Anyhow. New Stellaris blog post! https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/stellaris-dev-diary-62-government-civics-and-hive-minds.1001169/&utm_source=steam_community&utm_medium=community&utm_content=devdiary&utm_campaign=utop_stellaris_devdiary_20170223 |
| 13:44.39 | Monet | awesome. |
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| 14:07.36 | drom | Charles_Murray: http://i.imgur.com/ZFg7um5.jpg |
| 14:07.56 | Charles_Murray | niice |
| 14:09.00 | Monet | hi |
| 14:09.50 | drom | 24-inch armour (for Japanese Yamato-class battleships) used as a target practise for 16-inch guns on US battleship |
| 14:18.24 | Monet | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uGBX5z_Xpg I've had htis tune stuck in my head for days. |
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| 14:34.12 | Xho | After-something |
| 14:35.15 | drom | Good after-friday |
| 14:36.21 | Xho | In Tekken news I managed to rank up from 3rd Dan to 13th Dan in one morning |
| 14:36.40 | Xho | Still got 19 ranks to go |
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| 14:37.35 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:37.41 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid2: Oi you there |
| 14:38.47 | Xho | Hi |
| 14:38.58 | Xho | Hachiman: Gone from 3rd Dan to 13th Dan in Tekken this morning |
| 14:39.02 | Xho | hashtag must stop playing |
| 14:39.21 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 14:39.41 | Xho | Right now I'm on about 185 W 30 L with Yoshimitsu |
| 14:40.07 | Hachiman | I'm contemplating the idea of there being mafia and mob guilds within elven cities like Purity's Apogee |
| 14:40.43 | Hachiman | Wanted to run it past Imp as my knowledge of how mafia families start up is iffy |
| 14:53.30 | Xho | Hachiman: "I'm gonna make you an offer you can't refuse, or perhaps you will, I don't care either way" - Derevar Mob Boss |
| 14:54.16 | Hachiman | kek |
| 15:01.20 | Xho | Question about Derever actually |
| 15:01.27 | Xho | Can Half-Derevar actually exist |
| 15:02.36 | Xho | Derevar even |
| 15:05.38 | OluapPlayer_ | From what me and Hachi discussed, probably not |
| 15:06.36 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 15:06.45 | Hachiman | Maybe half-human, half-Derevar |
| 15:06.52 | Hachiman | 'Maybe' |
| 15:07.07 | Hachiman | But most probably not half-Derevar with other elven races |
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| 15:07.23 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
| 15:07.24 | Groxkiller98 | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ac/Raven%27s_Guard.png/revision/latest?cb=20170225150652 |
| 15:07.31 | Groxkiller98 | New armour design. Thoughts? |
| 15:07.50 | DrodoAway | test |
| 15:08.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's pretty nice |
| 15:08.19 | Xho | I like the curve on the helmet |
| 15:08.28 | Xho | As in how it blends with the horns |
| 15:08.52 | Xho | Hachiman: I would've thought cross-breeding with Derevar would only result in stillborns |
| 15:09.00 | Hachiman | Probably with elves |
| 15:09.12 | Hachiman | With humans, you're more likely to have a third of a chance |
| 15:09.12 | Groxkiller98 | I couldn't get anything for shielding the eyes. |
| 15:09.38 | Hachiman | I can't imagine a half-Derevar's existence would be all too thrilling |
| 15:10.19 | Xho | eternalemo.exe |
| 15:11.12 | Xho | I was thinking the other day that I might change Taihadrae's race partially |
| 15:11.29 | Xho | Rather than being Vila Elf/Dalmiric Human I was gonna make her Vila Elf/Taeleni Elf |
| 15:13.47 | Hachiman | y not baeleni / balmiric hooman |
| 15:14.30 | Xho | Being an umbramancer of her level I can't imagine being part-human helps |
| 15:16.12 | Xho | I mean she's technically dead and all but |
| 15:19.43 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 15:20.00 | Hachiman | If you're dead, you're probably not gonna be too affected by dark magic mutation |
| 15:20.11 | Hachiman | Plus, Clothovera is a pretty capable umbramancer and she's part-human |
| 15:20.22 | Xho | Good point |
| 15:20.39 | Xho | That being said she descends from the most powerful umbramancer of her time |
| 15:20.50 | Hachiman | She still had to go to school |
| 15:20.59 | Xho | punk ass bitch |
| 15:21.42 | Xho | Well ending that topic I don't really know where to begin on the Dalmiric Kingdom's history |
| 15:21.42 | Xho | hm |
| 15:28.34 | Monet | Maybe the establishment of its capital? |
| 15:29.53 | Xho | I guess that works |
| 15:30.20 | Xho | Talmyr's capital is stretched across two continents so I would imagine in ancient times it was originally two cities |
| 15:30.41 | Xho | They're not bridged together of course, that bridge would be very, very long |
| 15:31.43 | Xho | About 20 miles I'd make it |
| 15:32.32 | Xho | I could imagine on occasion that it is bridged together by having multiple ships span it |
| 15:33.15 | Xho | Would take about 700 ships or so |
| 15:34.59 | Xho | Well, more than that |
| 15:35.13 | Xho | I can't imagine it being done in the modern age |
| 15:35.59 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah a 20 km long bridge would be an -enormous- project |
| 15:36.16 | DrodoEmpire | Better still to have an active and well-maintained ferry network |
| 15:36.55 | Xho | 32 km |
| 15:36.58 | Xho | But yes |
| 15:37.17 | DrodoEmpire | Right, read miles of km for some reason >.< |
| 15:37.20 | DrodoEmpire | *as |
| 15:37.25 | Xho | It could be magically constructed but Talmyr isn't a land of geomancers really |
| 15:37.35 | Xho | Not really enough elves in that region |
| 15:37.54 | Xho | Or anyone masterful enough in that magic to not die of deformites |
| 15:37.56 | Hachiman | Dwarves, on the other hand |
| 15:37.57 | Xho | deformities even |
| 15:38.03 | Xho | Ah there are dwarves |
| 15:38.25 | Xho | But they would have entered Talmyr after the original settlement ended |
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| 17:09.52 | Xho | Hachiman: Would have the Sovereignty of Dryada housed the displaced Dalmiric populace during Eschaton |
| 17:10.12 | Hachiman | Probably |
| 17:11.41 | Xho | Hachiman Monet DrodoEmpire: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dalmiric_Kingdom#History I did a history |
| 17:12.07 | Hachiman | where |
| 17:13.15 | Hachiman | Looks good thus far, however |
| 17:18.49 | Xho | >where how bout dat +15,463 edit right dere |
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| 17:26.04 | Hachiman | The History section is blank |
| 17:26.06 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 17:26.12 | Xho | y u |
| 17:26.27 | Xho | Hi as well |
| 17:26.35 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dalmiric_Kingdom#Formation Try that then |
| 17:27.42 | Hachiman | Nope |
| 17:27.48 | Hachiman | Doesn't work, History is still blank |
| 17:28.00 | Xho | y u do dis |
| 17:28.07 | Hachiman | y U do dis |
| 17:28.09 | Monet | This is odd |
| 17:28.11 | OluapPlayer | I can see it |
| 17:28.19 | OluapPlayer | Problem is at your end |
| 17:28.20 | Xho | gud oluap |
| 17:28.23 | Xho | y'all trippin' |
| 17:28.40 | Monet | I can screenshot if you like. |
| 17:28.58 | Xho | I believe you but |
| 17:29.02 | Xho | dat ain't right |
| 17:29.06 | OluapPlayer | Try Ctrl + F5 |
| 17:29.38 | Hachiman | Nope, doesn't work either |
| 17:30.49 | Monet | It shows up neither on Chrome or Firefox for me. |
| 17:30.57 | Xho | huh well |
| 17:31.01 | Hachiman | I'm using Chrome and I can't see it |
| 17:31.09 | Monet | I can see the text if I go into page edit though |
| 17:31.10 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL_3HakpnlM In other news I got this cool costume for Yoshimitsu |
| 17:31.52 | Hachiman | Oh that's cool |
| 17:32.01 | Xho | Try now |
| 17:32.08 | Xho | Refreshing the page that is |
| 17:32.12 | Monet | there we go |
| 17:32.17 | Xho | Well that was dumb |
| 17:32.19 | Xho | I just made one edit |
| 17:32.22 | Xho | And it wrked |
| 17:32.24 | Xho | worked |
| 17:32.25 | Hachiman | That's better |
| 17:32.29 | Xho | not like my spelling |
| 17:32.33 | OluapPlayer | I could see it from the start |
| 17:33.06 | Monet | But Hachi and I couldn't |
| 17:34.45 | Monet | I'm back into Hitman, that Colorado mission was...interesting |
| 17:35.00 | Hachiman | rite give me a bit and I'll see if I can read |
| 17:35.15 | Monet | BRB and I'll read |
| 17:56.50 | Monet | "thirteen key partners in the First Dalmyric war" quite the war |
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| 18:06.14 | Monet | Imperios: Hachi was asking for you |
| 18:06.17 | Monet | ALso hi |
| 18:06.36 | Imperios | Hachiman: So what did you want?~ |
| 18:06.43 | Imperios | OH and hi |
| 18:07.12 | OluapPlayer | Imp dangit where were you |
| 18:08.16 | OluapPlayer | I wanted to tell you I got a second legendary yesterday |
| 18:09.10 | Imperios | yeeee |
| 18:09.22 | Imperios | What's your ilvl now? |
| 18:09.28 | OluapPlayer | 868 |
| 18:10.23 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/vHe350p.jpg two half-naked elves sandwich a cock between their bodies |
| 18:10.58 | Monet | lol |
| 18:26.07 | Imperios | drom: https://2ch.hk/po/src/21075772/14880400322650.webm Russian-Ukrainian conflict in a nutshell |
| 18:27.48 | drom | Imperios: good meme |
| 18:28.21 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: As for me, I actually have a second legendary but can't equip it |
| 18:28.26 | Imperios | Because no class order hall upgrade |
| 18:28.32 | Imperios | now I'm farming order hall resources |
| 18:29.14 | OluapPlayer | You should get a bodyguard follower and give him an item that gives order resources when you finish a world quest |
| 18:29.29 | OluapPlayer | You get 100 resources every time |
| 18:30.06 | Imperios | I have that one |
| 18:30.12 | Imperios | But it only gives me 25 resources |
| 18:30.19 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 18:30.20 | Monet | So Hitman's Colorado mission was somewhat cathartic. The camp was filled with, as one soldier put it "A U.N. of assholes" Targets inclued a Mossad interrogator apparently disturbing even by their standards, a former Tamil Tiger and leading them all is an OCD-ridden anarcho-primitivist.. |
| 18:30.31 | OluapPlayer | Actually no i'm confusing it with something else |
| 18:30.41 | OluapPlayer | It's an upgrade that gives you 100 resources per world quest |
| 18:30.42 | Monet | Also an Interpol turncoat but I felt bad for pushing her into a lake of slurry. |
| 18:31.10 | OluapPlayer | Also, I was exploring Odyn's meadhall yesterday while waiting for LFR and I noticed there's a hozen in there |
| 18:31.31 | OluapPlayer | A hozen wearing a helmet and wielding a big sword just chilling on the corner of a table |
| 18:31.46 | OluapPlayer | Why is there a monkey in Valhala hur |
| 18:32.46 | Monet | Dovahziin. |
| 18:33.49 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Ook has been dooken worthy |
| 18:33.57 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 18:34.06 | Imperios | Ookdyn |
| 18:34.10 | OluapPlayer | He's not even an important character |
| 18:34.12 | OluapPlayer | It's just a random hozen |
| 18:35.07 | OluapPlayer | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Renfield this guy |
| 18:37.30 | Monet | That's a very British name for a monkey. |
| 18:38.25 | Hachiman | Fucking at last |
| 18:38.39 | Hachiman | Imperios: Mafia and criminal guilds in Purity's Apogee |
| 18:38.46 | Hachiman | How and why would they have popped up |
| 18:38.47 | Imperios | TRIADS PLZ |
| 18:38.51 | Hachiman | And how significant could they be |
| 18:38.52 | Imperios | ASSASIN GUILDS PLZ |
| 18:38.58 | Imperios | *ASSASSIN GUILDS |
| 18:39.24 | Imperios | Seriously though, since the Middle Ages and all that brigands would be a bigger criminal force, albeit the city criminals could be connected to these |
| 18:39.30 | Imperios | We need a specialist here |
| 18:39.36 | Imperios | time to summon >a fucking leaf |
| 18:39.53 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:40.14 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire |
| 18:40.19 | Hachiman | I was looking for elven mafia / Triad / Yakuza stuff for a while and I wanted to talk to you about the possibility of such in the Sovereignty capital's criminal underworld, if it had one so significant |
| 18:40.50 | DrodoEmpire | I'm busy |
| 18:40.53 | DrodoEmpire | But what is it? |
| 18:41.38 | Imperios | We were discussing organised crime in a Medieval setting |
| 18:41.42 | Imperios | What kind of form would it take? |
| 18:41.43 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 18:41.52 | DrodoEmpire | No idea, that's far beyond my expertise |
| 18:42.00 | DrodoEmpire | However, I do know criminal syndicates existed |
| 18:42.06 | DrodoEmpire | And they could have extreme power |
| 18:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | o the point of forming their own polities |
| 18:42.36 | DrodoEmpire | (not that I'm an expert in anything, but I've read next to no literature in that regard) |
| 18:42.59 | Hachiman | Purity's Apogee is a massive trade hub for elven importation and exportation, as well as a centre of scholarly education and nobility and the like so I imagine its criminal underworld could be fairly significant |
| 18:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | I know in Ming China pirates in particular terrorised the coast, Fujian in particular |
| 18:43.03 | Hachiman | With ties beyond the city itself |
| 18:43.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah quite possibly |
| 18:43.16 | Imperios | Yeah that's what I am thinking |
| 18:43.24 | DrodoEmpire | They could even exist in a quasi-legal state |
| 18:43.25 | Imperios | Brigands having connections with powerful lords in the city |
| 18:43.45 | DrodoEmpire | Governments back then were too weak to seriously destroy organised crime |
| 18:43.48 | Hachiman | Noble families doing illegal shit behind the backs of the Uroboros government |
| 18:44.06 | Hachiman | Employing young elves and humans and whatnot looking for work to protect their privatized shit |
| 18:44.19 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 18:44.28 | DrodoEmpire | Don't worry about making them too bold, either |
| 18:44.52 | DrodoEmpire | Again, looking at the examples of early modern piracy-- they formed their own states and entire towns were looted and massacred by Wokou pirates |
| 18:45.39 | DrodoEmpire | So these criminals could be -super- blatant, with the local government either turning a blind eye or being their bitch :p |
| 18:46.14 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 18:46.18 | Monet | Could it be taken for granted how organised modern governments are? |
| 18:46.24 | DrodoEmpire | Absolutely Monet |
| 18:46.25 | Hachiman | I imagine they'd have the money to bail themselves and their colleagues out as well |
| 18:46.37 | DrodoEmpire | Well, bribe officials anyway |
| 18:46.51 | DrodoEmpire | Bail, I think, is a fairly modern, western idea |
| 18:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure though |
| 18:47.07 | Hachiman | Plus, who's the say that the government doesn't use individuals involved in particularly skilled organised crime to benefit themselves |
| 18:47.12 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:47.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it can't be understated how weak governments used to be |
| 18:47.40 | DrodoEmpire | I dare say they rarely had a monopoly on force, especially considering they relied on levies and nobles |
| 18:47.46 | Monet | A king may be mater of many lords, but many lords had family dynasties that crossed borders. |
| 18:48.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, and there was no serious way to maintain a police force |
| 18:48.09 | DrodoEmpire | And rarely did they have a standing army |
| 18:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | It would only be innovations in transportation, communication, administration, and culture/society in general would the modern state emerge, with a very strong government |
| 18:49.13 | DrodoEmpire | The Fantasyverse is largely before that point |
| 18:49.16 | Monet | Even Rome's armies were partially privatised. The army Julius Caesar used to conquer Gaul before he was emperor were on his payroll. |
| 18:49.24 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:49.40 | Hachiman | And even then, at the point that strong governments developed, certain families and criminal guilds were just too powerful or influential to eliminate from the equation |
| 18:49.59 | OluapPlayer | shit son just shoot magic at them |
| 18:50.05 | Hachiman | but they also have magic |
| 18:50.12 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 18:50.42 | Monet | If anything, the noblity have the luxury of being able to afford classes for their children. |
| 18:51.59 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: But criminals can shoot magic too |
| 18:52.03 | Imperios | Oh wait Hachi already said that |
| 18:52.23 | OluapPlayer | slow mo |
| 18:52.50 | Hachiman | Even more reason for noble families and members of government to put criminals on their payroll |
| 18:53.12 | Hachiman | God, imagine the criminal wars taking place in Purity's Apogee's underworld and how devastating they could be |
| 18:53.25 | OluapPlayer | Tibias - u are like little baby watch this |
| 18:54.11 | Monet | I think even Purity's Apogee has entire neighbourhoods where decent people just don't go. |
| 18:55.43 | Hachiman | Purity's Apogee is a huge city with multiple prospering districts - there would of course be lots of shadier areas |
| 18:57.01 | Hachiman | Saying that, I imagine some criminal guilds would behave like actual Mafia of old - that is, protecting the district and city they're a part of and the people in it without the government commanding their actions and whatnot |
| 18:57.28 | Hachiman | They're not all outright evil drug and magic smugglers or assassins and whatnot, although their methods would probably be incredibly brutal when dealing with one another |
| 18:58.09 | Monet | Exactly |
| 18:58.37 | OluapPlayer | Niaka - you chose the wrong nation to exist reeeeeeeee |
| 19:00.19 | Monet | Before the modern police forces, the city watch worked as both a garrison and force of order. |
| 19:00.53 | Hachiman | And if criminals were willing to go out of their way to help enforce this order, well, I'm sure the state could overlook their methods and some of the shadier shit they've done |
| 19:02.12 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1488037476-20170225.png |
| 19:02.33 | Monet | City watchmen were kind-of prone to bribery as the pay wasn't great. At all. |
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| 19:07.13 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 19:08.45 | Monet | Xho: Gud ztuff on Dalmiric s ofar |
| 19:09.01 | Xho | danke |
| 19:09.09 | Xho | I went to play a bit more Tekken because my internet went down |
| 19:09.14 | Xho | Went on a losing streak and ragequit |
| 19:09.16 | Hachiman | Oh yes |
| 19:09.23 | Hachiman | Nice stuff on the Dalmiric history section |
| 19:09.46 | Xho | danke |
| 19:09.47 | Imperios | Hachiman: >commanding their actions and whatnot [21:57:23] <Hachiman> They're not all outright evil drug and magic smugglers or assassins and whatnot, although their m |
| 19:09.50 | Imperios | Oh wait not |
| 19:09.56 | Imperios | >some criminal guilds would behave like actual Mafia of old - that is, protecting the district and city they're a part of and the people in it without the government |
| 19:09.59 | Imperios | Ronin plz |
| 19:10.03 | Hachiman | ayy |
| 19:10.44 | Imperios | Have the gangs be very clan-based |
| 19:11.04 | Hachiman | I was gonna say, gangs and mobs probably have very close, almost familial connections |
| 19:11.18 | Hachiman | Sequel to Doctrina where Teael is in training to serve the Vairadi noble family and she ends up getting involved with the Sovereignty Mafia and Triads and whatnot |
| 19:11.59 | OluapPlayer | ends with everyone getting fucking melted alive via Szal's brews |
| 19:12.08 | Xho | hawt stuph |
| 19:12.17 | Hachiman | Criminal - oh man whats this new drug *acid* |
| 19:13.32 | OluapPlayer | More like a sequel to Doctrina where Teael gets involved into numerous amusing slapstick injuries caused by Szal's twin little sisters |
| 19:13.39 | Monet | Hachiman: "honour among thieves" |
| 19:13.47 | Xho | And elven breasts |
| 19:13.48 | Xho | yup |
| 19:13.50 | Xho | elven breasts |
| 19:14.27 | Imperios | Guys can I like make a character for your story? |
| 19:14.34 | Imperios | I won't actually participate aka slow you down |
| 19:14.39 | Hachiman | Which one? |
| 19:14.42 | Imperios | But I'll give you some ideas that you may or may not use |
| 19:14.47 | Imperios | A Vila artistocrat |
| 19:14.55 | Imperios | Actually |
| 19:15.01 | OluapPlayer | This isn't a story |
| 19:15.09 | Hachiman | I was only contemplating on this idea, it may become a story later |
| 19:15.14 | OluapPlayer | It's general discussion about criminals in the Sovereignty |
| 19:15.18 | Imperios | A Vila illusionist who works for the criminal underworld of Purity's Apogee |
| 19:15.46 | Imperios | I thought you were planning some sort of story |
| 19:15.55 | OluapPlayer | No it's just general discussion |
| 19:15.58 | Hachiman | This does make me wanna write a Mafia-esque story now though; although me and Oluap already have Steel of the Plagued Lands to work on |
| 19:16.15 | OluapPlayer | I'm not working on any story beyond what is already planned |
| 19:16.19 | Imperios | But yes a criminal Vila illusionist |
| 19:16.23 | Imperios | That's a good idea |
| 19:16.34 | OluapPlayer | how bout u finish the klaxxa |
| 19:16.51 | Hachiman | I did have an idea yesterday for an Aithrena or half-Aithrena venomancy prodigy who ends up getting involved in the criminal underworld |
| 19:17.10 | Imperios | First I am finishing Praestol |
| 19:17.18 | Imperios | And speaking of which |
| 19:17.28 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/54/Praestol_Cityscape.png/revision/latest?cb=20170225191350 |
| 19:17.38 | Hachiman | noice |
| 19:21.46 | Imperios | I just had a brilliant idea about a picture |
| 19:22.22 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Would you say that the high-ranked Corruptus leaders are known everywhere? |
| 19:22.38 | Imperios | Would an average citizen of, say, the Imperium or the Coalition known about Shu'rimrodir and how he looks like |
| 19:22.44 | OluapPlayer | Probably not |
| 19:23.04 | OluapPlayer | Only a few fleets of soldiers ever saw Shu'rimrodir in flesh |
| 19:23.16 | Imperios | Hm |
| 19:23.21 | Hachiman | Doesn't he appear in nightmares |
| 19:23.41 | OluapPlayer | No, he causes nightmares |
| 19:23.57 | Imperios | What would be the most emblematic Corruptus demon in that case? |
| 19:24.00 | Imperios | Wok? |
| 19:24.23 | OluapPlayer | Strictly among the High Four, probably Shu'wokerama |
| 19:24.41 | OluapPlayer | But even then I don't imagine their existence is widely known across the public |
| 19:25.44 | Monet | Rumours and urban legends perhaps. |
| 19:25.48 | Imperios | I am thinking that Artharons could make a monument on Praestol devoted to their war with the Corruptus |
| 19:28.12 | OluapPlayer | Cairaoven was the one who killed Kagu'sai |
| 19:28.22 | OluapPlayer | If there's any major nightmare they'd remember, it'd be her |
| 19:28.25 | Monet | There could still be a monument to the war itself and any significant battles against the demons. |
| 19:29.05 | OluapPlayer | There was also Eleielord, who actually attacked Praestol |
| 19:30.17 | Imperios | Yeah Eieilord works |
| 19:33.54 | OluapPlayer | Hm, war monuments |
| 19:33.58 | OluapPlayer | I never considered that |
| 19:34.09 | OluapPlayer | It'd make sense for these to exist around the Gigaquadrant |
| 19:34.34 | Monet | There are several in Minos'Drakon. |
| 19:35.22 | Monet | A cancelled story I worked with Cyr on also portrayed a memorial to the GCW. |
| 19:36.24 | Monet | We need more monumnets. |
| 19:37.13 | OluapPlayer | Monument over the end of the Borealis War is a giant statue of an open airlock |
| 19:38.18 | Monet | I suppose it depends on the culture but we don't have ot be statues |
| 19:38.42 | Imperios | In the Divinarium I imagine abstract art would be more populare |
| 19:39.19 | OluapPlayer | Radeon - this monument represents the unification of our people Koluap - good grief someone puked on your wall |
| 19:39.39 | Monet | http://c8.alamy.com/comp/E5K9N6/carlisle-uk-3rd-aug-2014-the-cenotaph-war-memorial-in-rickerby-park-E5K9N6.jpg British memorials can be a little dull |
| 19:40.26 | Monet | (seriosuly thanks to WWII a town is naked if it does not have at least one dedication to locals who were lost in wartime) |
| 19:41.58 | Monet | I wonder how popular Victory Arches are in the gigaquadrant |
| 19:43.18 | Imperios | Victory arches remind me of the Dark Portal |
| 19:43.44 | Imperios | I always pass near one and think "fuck orcs are going to pour from that thing any moment" |
| 19:43.54 | Hachiman | Khara - rawr |
| 19:44.19 | Imperios | https://kudago.com/media/images/place/7b/fa/7bfa7dcd35bc62405b592915ac815911.jpg |
| 19:44.23 | Imperios | I mean look at that thing |
| 19:44.48 | Monet | it doesn't help that it's jade green. |
| 19:46.12 | Imperios | There's another kind of monument where I live, it's kind of equally dick-waving though |
| 19:46.23 | Monet | Actually you know what there's probably a couple of massive ones along the paragon's Promenade. |
| 19:46.47 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5_%D0%B7%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B6%D0%B8.jpg "How about we put ships on a fucking column" |
| 19:49.25 | Monet | I get the intention but that still looks very odd. |
| 19:50.26 | Monet | How much of a tourists spot might the Triumvirate plaza be (where you have statues of Uriel, Tyraz and Iovera that look to the centre of the triangular plaza). |
| 19:51.02 | Imperios | >(where you have statues of Uriel, Tyraz and Iovera that look to the centre of the triangular plaza). |
| 19:51.18 | Imperios | I kind of thought of nude Greek statues for a moment |
| 19:51.19 | OluapPlayer | Uriel's statue looks pristine but Tyraz has drawn mustaches and Iovera has smily faces on her tits |
| 19:51.54 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:52.11 | Hachiman | On Iovera's asscheek, "Hachi was here~ <3" |
| 19:52.20 | OluapPlayer | presumably all drawn by Geltstra |
| 19:52.23 | OluapPlayer | save that one I guess |
| 19:52.48 | Monet | OluapPlayer: You'd need a ladder for Iovera's but I've seen traffic cones hanging off statues on pillars. |
| 19:52.48 | Hachiman | You know, I have to wonder |
| 19:53.02 | OluapPlayer | aliens with wings bruh |
| 19:53.19 | OluapPlayer | I don't know about monuments featuring foreign individuals existing in the Indoc Collective but there must be some Andromeda-themed monuments at Hyperborea |
| 19:53.37 | Hachiman | How awkward would it be if say one of the Corruptus' champions took a vacation to some world and they saw Iovera or Hachi or another famous Gigaquadrantic hero there also on vacation |
| 19:53.58 | OluapPlayer | Corruptus demons don't take vacations |
| 19:54.08 | Hachiman | mordathai and his lot thi |
| 19:54.10 | Hachiman | tho |
| 19:54.10 | OluapPlayer | dis isnt a normal line of work m8 |
| 19:54.22 | OluapPlayer | Mordathai is Arrtkar's bitch tho |
| 19:54.27 | Monet | No wonder they're so uppity in battles. |
| 19:55.00 | Hachiman | Aren't Arrtkar's bitches allowed to do basically anything so long as they do what they're told when they're told and don't do anything to harm the Corruptus |
| 19:55.18 | Monet | Mar-Juun - I'm aggressive because I need a fucking weekend to myself but my boss won't let me! |
| 19:56.06 | OluapPlayer | Spending your time being useless would get you in trouble when your bosses are Arrtkar and Shu'wokerama |
| 19:56.20 | Monet | The thing with statesmen (or women in Iovera's case) on holiday is I can imagine they'd be surrounded by small armies. |
| 19:56.57 | Hachiman | Meanwhile it's discovered that Hachi's bosses are also the same |
| 19:57.03 | Monet | One of the perks of vacationing to a private island or country estate is it's easy to secure. |
| 19:57.28 | OluapPlayer | Iovera - i cant go anywhere unprotected without a pair of green neon eyes stripping me |
| 19:58.31 | OluapPlayer | And the chances of Hachi actually being told what to do are very low, considering he has the tendency to find his work by himself |
| 19:59.59 | Hachiman | True |
| 20:00.39 | Imperios | Monet: Vandalism in case of large monuments simply takes some cleverness |
| 20:01.22 | Imperios | There was that case when a vandal group climbed the statue of Lenin and attached explosives to the hem of his coat, which they then activated |
| 20:01.42 | Monet | Although I worked out with Drodo that protocol for Paragons is half a dozen blood dragons in smart dress in close vicinity, and a full contingent of fully-armoured dragons patrolling the surrounding four block radius area. |
| 20:01.53 | Imperios | Once they were apprehended, they responded that Lenin must have simply ate something spicy |
| 20:02.10 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 20:04.14 | Monet | Metal indegestion |
| 20:04.47 | Xho | And I'm back |
| 20:05.30 | Monet | The most powerful men and women in the gigaquadrant would understandably need an appropriate level of protection even if they are demigods. |
| 20:06.13 | Hachiman | Tyraz - sure |
| 20:06.22 | Hachiman | Crispy - nigga ur fukn ded |
| 20:07.50 | Monet | Threats come in many forms. |
| 20:09.30 | Monet | Also even if you are a demigod you might struggle fending off an ecstatic mob. |
| 20:09.52 | Hachiman | Hachi on a Rovegar planet |
| 20:10.12 | OluapPlayer | let's not pls |
| 20:10.21 | Xho | What's the current discussion because I'm lacking context here |
| 20:10.44 | OluapPlayer | War monuments |
| 20:13.17 | Xho | Angazhar's dick |
| 20:13.32 | Xho | hey you said war monument |
| 20:16.50 | Monet | Well...perhaps |
| 20:17.02 | Monet | We were more thinking of the statue variety. |
| 20:18.48 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: do oyu have a PNG of eieielord? |
| 20:18.50 | Imperios | *you |
| 20:18.52 | Imperios | *Eie |
| 20:19.01 | Imperios | Oh wait it's on the page |
| 20:19.01 | OluapPlayer | eieieieieieieieie |
| 20:19.01 | Imperios | nvm |
| 20:19.08 | OluapPlayer | Yes it's on the wiki |
| 20:22.13 | Xho | voting a name change to Old McDonald |
| 20:22.40 | Xho | Hachiman: Who'd you say is the hardest Tekken character to learn |
| 20:24.31 | Hachiman | Yoshimitsu is definitely one of them |
| 20:24.57 | Hachiman | It's been a while since I played Tekken so I couldn't tell you accurately |
| 20:25.50 | Xho | I'd be inclined to say Hwoarang as well |
| 20:31.38 | Hachiman | Ah yeah |
| 20:37.26 | Imperios | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5d/Megaliths_of_Sai.png/revision/latest?cb=20170225203659 Kagu'sai is Saint George now |
| 20:37.58 | Hachiman | That's awesome hur |
| 20:38.15 | Hachiman | There should be a Saint George equivalent in Koldenwelt - a human who is renowned for dragonslaying |
| 20:38.46 | OluapPlayer | That looks cool |
| 20:39.47 | Imperios | While I was doing this pic I googled for information about Saint George and I found one interesting fact |
| 20:40.00 | Imperios | Western tradition says that Saint George slew a dragon while he was alive |
| 20:40.12 | Hachiman | Yes? |
| 20:40.18 | Imperios | While Russian Orthodox Church holds that Saint George literally descended from heaven to Earth to kill it |
| 20:40.32 | Hachiman | Nah, Saint George was a badass normal |
| 20:40.34 | Imperios | Undead dragonslayer |
| 20:41.04 | Imperios | Hm |
| 20:41.17 | Imperios | Have him be active in the Western Continent and fight these Zazane guys |
| 20:41.26 | Hachiman | deyr not actual dragons tho |
| 20:41.37 | Hachiman | Also there are no Imperials or the like in the Western Continent |
| 20:41.41 | Hachiman | Thus no saints |
| 20:42.04 | Imperios | True |
| 20:42.19 | Imperios | Was kind of just thinking about the traditional Russian interpetation of Saint George |
| 20:43.01 | Imperios | The Tatars saw and still see the dragon as a sacred creature |
| 20:43.11 | Imperios | Russia was rebelling against the Tatars |
| 20:43.12 | Imperios | Do the math |
| 20:43.28 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:43.53 | Hachiman | I wonder if there are other human groups in the Western Continent other than the Dalmiric Men |
| 20:44.54 | Imperios | Consider that Saint George is also revered in England, I wonder how he is interpreted in your culture, what kind of dragons there are in Britain |
| 20:44.55 | Imperios | Oh wait |
| 20:44.56 | Imperios | Wales |
| 20:45.00 | Imperios | Saint George the Welsh-slayer |
| 20:46.02 | Hachiman | I somehow always thought that the Welsh used a dragon BECAUSE of Saint George or something |
| 21:19.47 | OluapPlayer | fokin ded |
| 21:19.59 | Imperios | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1a/Rulers_of_Praestol.png/revision/latest?cb=20170225211907 Executive Laethia and Plenipotentiary Vah'sairu, nominal rulers of Praestol |
| 21:22.11 | OluapPlayer | mustache cat |
| 21:25.57 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Praestol BOOM |
| 21:28.18 | OluapPlayer | half the page is still missing no boom allowed |
| 21:29.13 | Imperios | ;_; |
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| 21:30.25 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 21:30.30 | Imperios | I mentioned some new additions to PAE canon so Monet may read |
| 21:30.31 | OluapPlayer | In seriousness, I like what I've read so far |
| 21:30.32 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 21:30.40 | NeonPanda | Monet: if you want to play some GTA at some point let me know |
| 21:31.07 | Imperios | take a read even |
| 21:31.13 | OluapPlayer | I participate in ur planet's history by trying to blow it up c |
| 21:31.22 | Imperios | Such as "Commonwealth Day" |
| 21:31.37 | Imperios | I have no idea what it is supposed to be but now it's a holiday in the PAE |
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| 21:33.21 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/063/705/b67.png |
| 22:12.33 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I can't quite believe Steam gave me a notification of some randomer posting a comment on your profile |
| 22:12.50 | Xho | I'm not even subscribed to the thread |
| 22:13.03 | OluapPlayer | Huh |
| 22:19.15 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: >: |
| 22:19.28 | DrodoEmpire | To be fair we had a Union jack flag until like the 50s |
| 22:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | 60s, rather |
| 22:19.41 | DrodoEmpire | It was pretty nice too |
| 22:44.58 | Tek0516 | I think we only changed it for the Centennial |
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| 23:01.43 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:01.53 | Wormy_ | What have I missed today? |
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| 23:02.28 | Wormy_ | Spent the day researching |
| 23:02.37 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:03.36 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno |
| 23:03.42 | DrodoEmpire | I was away for a good while too |
| 23:03.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 23:05.50 | NeonPanda | Xho: how goes the new vegasing? |
| 23:07.33 | Xho | Well, just playing it for kicks agan |
| 23:07.35 | Xho | again |
| 23:08.25 | NeonPanda | fair enough |
| 23:08.40 | NeonPanda | I can understand the need to have more cass in one's life |
| 23:48.37 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/WKUdPlZ.jpg |
| 23:49.07 | Xho | ave caesar |
| 23:51.05 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/uAajH9h.jpg |
| 23:51.45 | Xho | "I found Rome a city of bricks and left it a city of spaghetti" |
| 23:51.55 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:52.33 | Xho | Anyway I need to go to sleep because my brain hurts |
