IRC log for #sporewiki on 20170216

00:02.33DrodoEmpireolol
00:14.23DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4tTkhwWYAITw7j.jpg:large - Indeed
00:15.12DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4tT3VfXAAEYQKb.jpg:large 8(
00:18.36DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4tTE5dXAAAvkTr.jpg D8>
00:26.38DrodoEmpireDo italics show up on page titles?
00:27.39Wormy_I'm not sure.  I have seen titles in italics, but I think it needs to be allowed on the commons style sheet
00:28.23DrodoEmpireAhh.
00:28.34DrodoEmpireThat sucks, as the title's gonna have a shipname in it <.<
00:28.58DrodoEmpireI dunno, I'll ask Tech once she's on and I can rename it later with the new knowledge
00:29.59MonetWe've got ship names that aren't italics.
00:30.10MonetSo not too serious
00:30.37Wormy_try it
00:31.21Wormy_actually looking on Wikipedia where I've seen it, they use a template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Italic_title
00:40.33DrodoEmpireI'll try it, thanks
00:41.32Wormy_<PROTECTED>
00:42.09Wormy_Ah it uses Lua
00:42.16Wormy_Might need to be imported
00:43.31DrodoEmpireI'll just ask if Tech knows how >.<
00:43.39DrodoEmpireI tried a couple things and I fucked it up
00:43.42DrodoEmpireThanks anyway
00:44.50Wormy_One solution uses js here, for mediawiki.js http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Italic_title http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/MediaWiki%3ACommon.js
00:44.59Wormy_but its old
00:45.31Wormy_I could have a go
00:46.16DrodoEmpireGo ahead
00:49.15Wormy_If I add the js, you could try and implement italic title from fossil wiki
00:54.33Wormy_Of course I don't know whether we should debate having italic titles on the wiki, aesthetically
00:56.44Wormy_Certain binomial names for genus and species
01:04.04Wormy_Okay, if you want to copy this go ahead.  Just put a comment to the original source for politeness http://fossil.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Italictitle?action=edit
01:04.57Wormy_And it may not work straight away since A) the js needs reviewing B) cache will need clearing C) solution is old or not enough templates are documented
01:05.02DrodoEmpireOh, jesus christ
01:05.05DrodoEmpirexD
01:05.14DrodoEmpireI was expecting something... simpler
01:05.26DrodoEmpireI'll take a look though
01:07.44Wormy_I think we may need more docs but its not clear what
01:16.52Wormy_Well you see span id in the template is calling a document element in the common.js called "RealTemplate"
01:17.43Wormy_Then I think the template gives two choices: have the full title as italic or part of it
01:18.55Tek0516~seen Tybusen
01:18.58infobottybusen <8036ad08@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.54.173.8> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 5d 21h 24m 54s ago, saying: 'classic wikia'.
01:23.35Tek0516Either something is wrong with this bus or this guy cannot drive smoothly. >.<
01:35.39DrodoEmpireHey thanks Wormy
01:36.24Wormy_Its alright.  I'm not expecting it to work though
01:36.55Wormy_If it doesn't we could get Techno's or Wikia's help.  I;m also not sure what other users will think
01:37.14Wormy_goodnight
01:37.19DrodoEmpireNight!
01:37.32DrodoEmpireIts an italicised title, for a shipname. They'll be alright xD
01:38.27DrodoEmpireIts a deviation from conventional title structure perhaps, buut not a radical change in page structure
01:38.39DrodoEmpireSo... Eh, I don't see the issue personally
01:38.39Wormy_I know, but editing the commons is sort of a big deal
01:38.45DrodoEmpireRight, right
01:38.51Wormy_I might get scolded :P
01:39.00DrodoEmpireIf you do, I'll take the blame
01:39.07DrodoEmpireAh poo, he left >.,
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02:47.05DrodoEmpireHi
03:00.55Tek0516It's rather curious when you have better luck Googling something than using a Google product's actual search for the thing. >.>
03:03.35DrodoEmpireHm?
03:05.49Tek0516Nevermind, it just turns out the Google Play Music search doesn't actually search Google Play Music. >.>
03:06.14DrodoEmpirehur
03:07.02DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:%27%27Charles_Martel%27%27_Incident - still getting the italics figured out but this
03:08.08DrodoEmpiretl;dr a tanker starship crewed by Imperial and French citizens gets ganked by a bunch of Aztecs in ships made of stone, shitstorm ensues
03:10.19Tek0516O.o
03:10.48Tek0516DrodoEmpire: Have you seen the new Mesoamerica mod for EU4?
03:11.00DrodoEmpireYup
03:11.04DrodoEmpireI fucking love it
03:11.42Tek0516...wait, stone spaceships? O.o
03:11.51DrodoEmpireyes
03:11.53DrodoEmpire<.<
03:12.04DrodoEmpireThey also use 16th century technology, did I mention? xD
03:12.26DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aztlan read up boi
03:13.00Tek0516IIRC we actually already had a human nation called Aztlan. :P
03:13.13DrodoEmpireYeah well fuck'em >8D
03:13.24DrodoEmpireIn all seriousness we might need to sort that out then
03:13.30DrodoEmpireI'll have a talk with the owner
03:13.31Tek0516Roreinia tried in the 21st century and lost. :P
03:13.39DrodoEmpirehur
03:14.08DrodoEmpireEssentially, they're Aztecs, but they have access to a form of omnipurpose utility fog-- nanites
03:14.51DrodoEmpireThese nanites can do practically anything-- power a system of stargates with which they connect their civilisation, bind and seal things like spaceships made of stone, propel things, compute, and so on
03:15.13DrodoEmpireGranted, they're not particularly -good- at any one thing, but they can do it all almost
03:16.07DrodoEmpireDue to closedmindedness, the youth of their society, and their lack of need to innovate though their actual tech beyond these gifts remains basically the same as it had since they've been transplanted
03:16.57DrodoEmpireOh yeah and through a special integration procedure/ritual they can integrate the nanites into their most elite warriors, making them nigh-immortal supersoldiers
03:17.51DrodoEmpireAs they can regenerate most wounds-- interestingly, the nanites have trouble repairing the tearing, sawing wounds traditional Aztec weapons inflict. Plus they have no real way of ejecting bits of obsidian stuck in the wound
03:19.18Tek0516O.o
03:19.33Tek0516SporeWiki technology in  a nutshell. :P
03:20.07DrodoEmpire^
03:20.42DrodoEmpireI also have an Aztec char in the works, Yolotli, who, of course, is one of these elites
03:20.48DrodoEmpireA Jaguar Warrior to be precise
03:22.28DrodoEmpireAnd... Well I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that, once the gigaquadrant becomes aware of the Neo-Aztecs and their prowess, the Drodo king may recruit a small contingent of elite warriors from them as a sort or royal guard
03:22.36DrodoEmpire*of royal guard
03:23.14DrodoEmpireThink of the swiss or varangian guard, but more... tearing-out-heart-ish?
03:23.43Tek0516O.o
03:25.18DrodoEmpireI figure that, on top of the regular honour guard that would always follow a monarch he would also have a few Jaguar Warriors by his side, perhaps acting as his most trusted personal guard
03:26.16DrodoEmpireBecause no emperor is complete without an exotic bodyguard to fall back on <.<
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12:46.09Monethi
12:47.36Tek0516Hello
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12:58.51ImpyDroidhi
13:03.18OluapPlayerHi
14:00.34OluapPlayerImpyDroid: http://www.wowhead.com/news=260329/patch-7-2-cathedral-of-eternal-night-early-preview purty
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14:07.24HachimanHi
14:08.05OluapPlayerhonk
14:10.25MonetHi
14:10.36HachimanSpent all day in bed
14:10.43HachimanLiving the life I do believe
14:11.14HachimanThere's little for me to do in the next few days so, gives me an opportunity to be lazy
14:13.12MonetEnjoy those days.
14:13.39OluapPlayerBut you're lazy all the time already
14:15.32Hachimanfuk off I wasn't lazy yesterday
14:15.49HachimanI did a lot of heavy lifting yesterday hur
14:16.36MonetBusy busy busy, busy little be
14:16.40Monetbee*
14:17.53DrodoEmpireyoo rofl
14:19.58HachimanHi
14:21.05DrodoEmpireHey
14:21.37DrodoEmpireI've only had and will only have one day of school this entire goddamn week <.<
14:21.48DrodoEmpireAnd it was yesterday I had it
14:22.05HachimanNice
14:23.02MonetWIsh I had that.
14:23.09DrodoEmpireMonday and Tuesday were taken by the storms, today was also taken by the storm, and the teachers are going on strike tomorrow because, I dunno, they don't get a mahogany chest filled with ancient riches when they retire
14:23.22MonetBeen working till 10-11pm these past few weeks on my university stuff.
14:23.26DrodoEmpireAhh.
14:23.52DrodoEmpireI'm going to be really busy on the History IA (research essay) a bit later on, but as of now I can relax
14:24.19MonetOkay sure I usually started at around 11-12 in the morning but that's still what, 8? 9? 10 hours a day in work mode?
14:25.58DrodoEmpireAhh
14:27.54MonetI'm not getting any intervention from my lecturers and they're (so far as I can tell) confident I can make a deadline I have this month so it's not all bad I suppose.
14:28.34DrodoEmpireRight, right
14:56.12Tek0516DrodoEmpire: Wow you guys must be getting hit pretty hard.
14:56.17DrodoEmpire^
14:56.30DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4y3a4mUcAEtChj.jpg:large - this comic sums it up <.<
14:57.31Tek0516O.o
14:58.18Tek0516We've got out fair share but not shut everything down yet, I think
15:00.21DrodoEmpireAhh
15:01.17DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4aCQQOWIAUxmRC.jpg "dont fuck wit me"             "im locked and loaded my dudes"
15:02.21MonetIts an anti-diva pistol.
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15:05.44MonetHachiman: So in Marvel's Adapt or Die arc we're presented with an interesting team of alternate universe Avengers.
15:05.52TreebeardHello
15:05.57MonetHello
15:07.40MonetWe have a Thor who basically commands for humans to bow before him, Edwin Jarvis is in the Iron Man suit and apparently killed Stark Sr. and smothered Jr. in his crib.
15:09.09MonetCap is "General Rogers" and as he puts it, "same as [Steve] I expect, Apple pie, baseball, boots on necks"
15:24.00Hachimanhur
15:24.05HachimanSounds edgy
15:26.01MonetBanner meanwhile has been made a sociopath as a side-effect of the Avengers detaching the emotional parts of his brain and linking them with a biochip.
15:30.48MonetTony, (the main Tony) describes them as peculiar as you'd espect.
15:31.58Monet"Right now I have everyone out looking for this group of--and you're not going to believe this--evil Avengers from another universe"
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15:39.32Monethi
15:42.15DrodoEmpireHey
15:44.27TreebeardHello
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15:46.28TreebeardDrodoEmpire: I've really enjoyed reading Elysia Lost :D
15:46.30Wormydroid_Seems the italic title doesn't work.  Probably needs more template documentation.
15:46.35DrodoEmpireHey thanks :D
15:46.43DrodoEmpireNah, seems not. Thanks though
15:49.07Wormydroid_If you are willing to pursue it further, it'd be worth contacting wikia support forums to get an idea what, or an alternative.  Though I think this also an area of Techno's expertise
15:49.25DrodoEmpireRight, right.
15:49.37Wormydroid_If not, I'll delete the template and undo the js for now
15:50.01DrodoEmpireEh, may as well start fresh. Keep what you've gotten done somewhere though
15:50.23Wormydroid_It'll be in the history and xan be restored
15:50.32DrodoEmpireAlright, fair enough
15:50.35Wormydroid_Anyway, for now, bbl
15:50.44DrodoEmpirekk
15:51.08DrodoEmpireTreebeard: Just curious, how far are you? Or have you read all the way through?
15:58.24dromI didn't greet
15:58.26dromHow rude of me
16:04.07TreebeardDrodoEmpire: I think I've read everything so far
16:04.14DrodoEmpireAhh cool
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16:16.20dino82_hi
16:17.11TreebeardHello
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16:20.40NeonPandahi all
16:21.26DrodoEmpireHi
16:24.28dino82_hi
16:24.29dino82_howz all dong
16:25.25DrodoEmpireI'm alright
16:25.26DrodoEmpireYou?
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16:25.44JepardiHi
16:26.21dino82_great me as well!
16:26.42dromGhelae: let's see... if they had that biochemistry we talked about, they are essentially nitrogen-carbon-based life, but breathes hydrogen?
16:27.14dromI'm good, dino82_. Glad to hear you are great!
16:28.41dino82_great to hear as well!'
16:38.10NeonPandaMonet: so my friends and I were playing GTA last night, spent a while doing stunt races so I could learn how to do turbo starts
16:38.21NeonPandaafter a while I unlocked a spiffy new metallic red paint job for my convertible
16:39.40MonetSweet
16:40.47NeonPandahad to change up my neon kit and wardrobe to fit with it, but it was worth it
16:40.55NeonPandaand of course the races paid for the respray so that's nice
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16:51.12ValaderHey all
16:51.49NeonPandahi
16:53.29NeonPandaMonet: I feel like I need to add a proper four-door to my collection but I can't think of any good ones
16:53.32TreebeardHello
16:53.51MonetNeonPanda: What kind of four-door are you looking for.
16:54.09NeonPandaprettymuch a crew car
16:54.13MonetI have a few high-end four-door coupes on my profile.
16:54.18dino82_hi
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16:55.15NeonPandalike I've got my convertible which I absolutely love, but I need a good four-door that drives well without too much by way of upgrades
16:55.18MonetBoth of which have bulletproof tyres and 100% armour.
16:55.51NeonPandaand then I will paint it metallic midnight blue
16:57.06MonetWhen in doubt, go joyride hunting.
16:57.28dromI would get a Warrener if I had the chance to
16:57.56NeonPandanot gonna lie, I kinda want to get a Penetrator at some point just to say I have one
16:58.06NeonPandafor purposes of humour, I'm not going to elaborate on that for the people who don't play GTA
16:58.41MonetI find that four-door coupes have better acceleration than sedans, but are still fairly good handling.
17:00.47NeonPandathe Exemplar looks pretty good, how does it drive?
17:01.24dromSpeaking of GTA V vehicles, I prefer driving motorcycles. Because it is easier to drive between NPC cars and get in between shortcuts.
17:01.47dromThat and it is glorious to throw C4 on the road for any pursuiting players.
17:03.00NeonPandaI'm usually not the driver in the overworld, specifically because I have a yacht so I have helicopter access
17:03.20NeonPandabut my 9F Cabrio has a special place in my douchebag-y heart
17:03.43dromOh
17:03.44dromOH
17:03.46dromThey are great
17:04.32NeonPandamhm
17:05.19NeonPandaI've got it to the point that I can pretty effortlessly weave between traffic, handles really well and it's fast enough to get a bit of a buzz going without being uncontrollable
17:06.29dromThe feeling of sweering an Obey at a corner while avoiding close calls with incoming traffic is super satisfying
17:09.34dromThat reminds me of more fun moments
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17:10.47dromRunning a Rhino in busy traffic, using the cannon like a baseball bat to swat home-runs with every pedestrian and vehicle within its reach
17:11.38dromHello Imperios
17:12.38ImperiosHiya
17:13.23Ghelaedrom: Yes; they breathe hydrogen -> CH4 instead of oxygen -> CO2, and use ammonia instead of water.
17:13.42dromExcellent
17:18.20GhelaeRather than C6H12O6 + 6 O2 → 6 CO2 + 6 H2O, you'd expect something like C6H18N6 + 12 H2 → 6 CH4 + 6 NH3.
17:18.37GhelaeSo no oxygen in the glucose-equivalent, just nitrogen with extra hydrogens on top.
17:19.32dromThey would in theory consume twice the amount of breathing gas.
17:21.17GhelaeIn number of molecules, yes, but also remember that twelve moles of hydrogen is a lot lighter than six moles of oxygen.
17:21.40dromFair neough
17:21.58dromOr rather
17:22.00dromGood to know!
17:22.37NeonPandaabout one eighth in fact, give or take
17:23.04dino82_oh have to leave
17:23.05dino82_bye
17:24.07dromNeonPanda: 12.5% of the weight, what a steal
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17:27.48Charles_BotHey
17:43.52Tek0516Hey
17:47.46TreebeardHello
17:51.24DrodoEmpireHey Charles
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18:10.43WormydroidHi
18:12.11WormydroidI've been anticipating the initiation of this project for a long time http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38937141
18:13.19WormydroidIn the excitement context
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18:30.15dromLeft my computer too long
18:32.12Luxoroy
18:32.45dromyes
18:32.46dromhi
18:35.41Imperioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sark
18:35.46Imperios>600 people
18:35.52Imperios>has its own parliament and head of state
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18:39.23WormydroidThe nice thing is that its getting lighter in my latitude, not quite pitch dark when I leave the campus at 6
18:39.24MonetImperios: That's the Crown Dependencies for you.
18:41.32WormydroidMet my lecturer from two years ago just now
18:41.45WormydroidAt a bus stop
18:42.17WormydroidHe does DJ'ing now
18:43.30Luxorkek
18:43.52Luxorhttps://youtu.be/uaI7ShdG6JE
18:44.21dromImperios: They did even ban motor vehicles
18:44.25dromHow outrageous
18:45.46WormydroidI was part of a focus group discussing the eventual total reduction in motor vehicles from campus today in fact
18:45.49MonetLuxor: Old.
18:46.05MonetResting in peace, Harambe isn't.
18:46.05Luxorikr, yet music is best
18:47.13WormydroidAnd replacement with self-driving shuttles
18:47.24WormydroidCuz its the future
18:54.16ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/79/Vrieth_Shvrarkh.png/revision/latest?cb=20160828181042 Holy shit that guy looks badass
18:54.39OluapPlayerYou think so?
18:58.02ImperiosNot sure about badass but he looks cool
19:00.31LuxorQuick survey: When making new species, do you often spend time on figuring out how their biology might work?
19:00.39Luxorexcluding drom ofc
19:00.40ImperiosOkay for some unknown reason websites now register my IP as British
19:00.48ImperiosLuxor: Depending on the species
19:01.09ImperiosIf it's an important one, I do elaborate on it somewhat
19:01.24Luxorperhaps your internet provider caught you on squatting like a western szpion
19:01.37HachimanThat Vrieth guy looks cool
19:03.10dromLuxor: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256_nqlyaa.jpg
19:03.30Luxormeh
19:03.40LuxorI tried to be funny, it never works
19:06.47dromWere you referencing to how much I procrastinate creation of a page because I do my research by interviewing resident experts like Ghel and Monet?
19:07.45Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lucario_of_the_Gods/Sandbox#Fantasy_Characters Oh hey my sandbox is finally being used kek
19:08.10drom> Swinehound
19:08.35HachimanYes, Swinehound
19:09.12dromI'm thinking "Pathpig"
19:11.40HachimanI did something clever with the name 'Fearh' haw haw
19:12.09HachimanIt's like the Old English term for 'farrow' or something, which is stuff to do with pigs
19:20.33DrodoEmpireHuh cool
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19:39.12DrodoEmpireHi
19:41.26dino82_hi back again :D
19:46.03dino82_seems quite on the wiki at the moment D:
19:47.06HachimanJust a bit yeah
19:48.51HachimanImperios: I wonder how magic is supposed to work in DotA's world
19:50.23ImperiosHachiman: That depends on the character
19:50.52ImperiosThough it appears that in most cases it requires some sort of channeling item
19:51.04HachimanLike a catalyst
19:51.14ImperiosYes, wands and staves
19:51.30HachimanIt'd be fun to have a Rubick-esque character whose magic proficiency is copying spells and whatnot
19:51.43dino82_:d
19:52.15HachimanMakes me wonder who would win in an actual confrontation between Rubick and Invoker
19:52.16ImperiosFrom what one can deduce from Invoker's backstory, magical catalysts may contain bound spells within them, or otherwise make spells easier to cast
19:52.21ImperiosIn-game?
19:52.22ImperiosInvoker
19:52.30HachimanI more meant lore-wise
19:52.39ImperiosLore-wise, Rubick defeated Invoker once
19:52.43HachimanOh he did?
19:52.51ImperiosIt is heavily implied
19:53.01ImperiosRubick became the Grand Magus by defeating all other Magi
19:53.19ImperiosHe also calls Invoker the "Arsenal Magus" which was apparently his old title
19:53.26HachimanHuh cool
19:54.11ImperiosThough Rubick may not have defeated him himself
19:54.28ImperiosHe defeated the other Magi by copying their spells and causing confusion among them
19:54.54ImperiosSo perhaps some other Magus was tricked by Rubick into fighting Invoker
19:55.03ImperiosPresumably several considering how powerful he is
19:55.13HachimanInvoker's main schtick is being able to cast almost any kind of magic right?
19:56.20ImperiosYeah
19:56.40ImperiosThat, and his spells are (both in-game and lore-wise) considerably more powerful
19:57.17ImperiosHe is the sole practitioner of the ancient form of magic that does *not* require wands, which is said to be stronger, but harder to learn
19:57.44MonetAs you do.
19:57.46HachimanRight, that's pretty awesome
19:58.48ImperiosIt essentially required a very good memory, as one had to memorise the mental formula perfectly
19:58.52ImperiosWhich Invoker apparently has
19:59.22HachimanSo, basically magic maths
19:59.23ImperiosThough I am not sure if he can cast modern magic, I think he relies on a handful of most powerful ancient spells
19:59.31ImperiosYeah
19:59.46ImperiosHachiman: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/0/06/Rubick_ally_01.mp3 There you go
20:00.19HachimanWhat even is Rubick, is he supposed to be human hur
20:03.28ImperiosUncertain
20:03.40ImperiosBut he's likely a human in armour
20:06.42HachimanIt annoys me a little how disconnected and shallow bits and pieces of the lore are in DotA given that the characters are rather interesting
20:07.41ImperiosThere are several important mythoses composed of several characters
20:08.01ImperiosThe divine characters for example are all very well connected
20:12.11ImperiosArc Warden bound the Radiant and the Dire, creating a harmonious world
20:12.17ImperiosThen Elder Titan dun fucked up and broke it
20:12.53ImperiosThis caused the four slightly less powerful deities to break free, also conflicting, which were once all comrades of Arc Warden
20:13.00ImperiosEnigma, Io, CK, and KotL
20:13.32ImperiosThere are like groups of 3 or 4 characters who are closely connected
20:13.34TechnobliteratorThe lore is not that deep, I don't think
20:15.39OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_2#To_Find_the_King
20:15.49Technobliterator:o
20:16.04Technobliteratorsec
20:18.49TechnobliteratorGood stuff :o
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20:31.00XhoHi
20:31.01Wormy_Hi
20:32.33DrodoEmpireHey guys
20:32.49ImperiosHachiman: http://img1.reactor.cc/pics/post/full/Marry-Mind-Dota-2-%D1%84%D1%8D%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%8B-Dota-Art-2083623.jpeg Googled for Dota art and found dis
20:33.06Hachimanhur
20:33.47Xhowelcome to internet
20:34.10HachimanOh hi Spu
20:34.19XhoHi
20:34.28HachimanI wrote shit in my sandbox if you're interested
20:34.44Xhono not interested go de
20:34.48XhoWow fucked that up
20:34.49Hachimanrite
20:34.52XhoNevermind I'll have a look
20:34.55Hachimancommits sudoku
20:35.14XhoProbably worse than seppuku tbh
20:35.42DrodoEmpire^
20:39.42XhoNice character now make real character
20:39.47Xhodo it nao
20:40.51Hachimanwut u meen make reel character
20:41.02Xhoarticle and shit
20:41.13Hachimanbiiihh fix that joint
20:44.37Wormy_try coding sodoku
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20:53.12Wormy_hi
20:53.23HachimanHi
20:54.06Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/8BtskVR.jpg
20:54.18HachimanI wonder if Swinehound would be a 'cannibal with morals', so to speak; he's a butcher and a torturer, sure, but I wonder if there'd be people he would refuse to eat if given the chance
20:54.25HachimanLike, children and whatnot
20:54.53HachimanThen again, he's supposed to be a demented, insane werebeast so
20:55.21HachimanAnd pigs and boars aren't particularly fussy about where the meat they do happen to eat comes from
20:55.39Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/zZCEoeZ.jpg
20:56.21OluapPlayerIf he's a werebeast he'd lose control over his actions every full moon so he'd eat babies wanting or not
20:57.08HachimanTrue
20:57.43Wormy_DrodoEmpire: http://imgur.com/gallery/Ylf2bfR
20:59.53DrodoEmpireolol
21:02.03XhoPeople getting all analytical about how wheat in Roman times was taller than a man
21:02.18TreebeardHachiman: "...feasting upon the corpses of his enemies under the belief that consuming their flesh grants him their strength" - Perhaps he avoids eating children etc because he's focused on seeking out the strong. He might not consider 'easy prey' to be rewarding.
21:02.32HachimanThat's fair
21:02.57HachimanChildren are small, weak, and generally don't provide for a very filling meal
21:02.58XhoNéva - mah niggah
21:03.54HachimanThen again, it also says that that's also just an excuse he says to make others think his obsession with cannibalism is deeper than it actually is
21:04.12DrodoEmpireXho: I recall Lindybeige did a video on that very wheat-scene, and found that the only things that were accurate were... the arms. And the head.
21:04.25DrodoEmpireBecause, you know, Romans were at least -humans-. They got that right
21:04.30Xhoyay
21:04.40HachimanHe just really fucking loves eating people, but all the same, children aren't very filling
21:05.27TreebeardHunting adults might be more thrilling for him
21:05.36HachimanYeah
21:05.54OluapPlayerhow bout a scene where a much larger predator fucks him up hur
21:06.24OluapPlayerfuk ur piglet-doggo
21:06.26HachimanWhy yes
21:06.35XhoWould've suggested Nanuk the Bear but
21:06.38XhoNanuk is dead
21:06.45HachimanHe's also on the opposite of the world hur
21:06.57XhoNanuk - does not stop neva                     even dead neva             yep
21:07.11HachimanFucking ghost bear
21:07.41XhoGhost!Nanuk Gon' Give it to Ya
21:08.06DrodoEmpireI mean, he -could- just be an irredeemably-evil character and eat children as well <.<
21:08.10XhoOn the topic of therianthropy I had an idea that one of the ancient Orichalcum Elf Imperators was a werelion
21:08.11DrodoEmpireWhoever we're talking about
21:08.17XhoSwinehound
21:08.18ImperiosNeva gonna give you up
21:08.22DrodoEmpireRite, saw that
21:08.37HachimanI mean, eating people in general makes you fairly irredeemable
21:08.43HachimanEspecially when you do it out of choice
21:10.03HachimanI also had a thought about a possible Sun magic user, albeit of a different sort to the likes of Longinus and Norrigan and whatnot
21:10.24DrodoEmpireTrue, cannibalism itself is evil
21:10.27XhoLonginus/Norrigan - deus does not vult
21:11.03DrodoEmpireBut making children the victim of any crime seems to make it 10 times worse and inexcusable <.<
21:11.10XhoDrodoEmpire: Don't tell the Néva that good lord
21:11.17DrodoEmpirehur
21:11.32HachimanHe's basically a young rogue-type human character who has access to various Sun magic powers via descending from ancient human heliomancers in the ancient past; it's not a power he'd be super reliant on in most circumstances, however
21:11.56XhoQuestion about human heliomancers
21:12.01Xhohow would they look
21:12.12HachimanI imagine like human luxomancers but on steroids
21:12.28XhoBasically Longinus then
21:12.38XhoPlanet of the Shinies
21:12.45HachimanEyes illuminated with sunlight, golden markings, stuff like that
21:13.21HachimanHis main means of getting around in combat is through trickery and being a fucking dirty cheat
21:13.56XhoPelagrios - my kind of niggah
21:14.54HachimanMeanwhile his solar powers would be largely utility I imagine until he gets into a fight with things like, say, vampires and werewolves
21:15.21XhoI could imagine Longinus and Norrigan deeming him unfit to wield heliomancy by that prospect
21:15.24XhoMaybe not Norrigan
21:16.24XhoI wonder how sun magic comes about in the modern age on the account of it being effectively lost
21:16.32HachimanProbably through bloodlines
21:16.40XhoGood point
21:16.58HachimanOr through stuff being found in ancient ruins that you happen to survive through
21:17.37Xho>dar-nahalant                    Longinus - fucking humans getting everywhere
21:18.01HachimanI imagine that both humans and Khargrim are especially interested in getting their hands on Sun magic
21:18.18HachimanSun dwarves sound fucking intense
21:18.18OluapPlayeryet they wont, alas
21:18.20Wormy_cave diving looks terrifying http://imgur.com/gallery/lk7JM
21:18.41XhoI doubt the divine warriors would let them freely
21:19.05XhoHeliomancy was afaik a closely guarded secret among civilisations even when it was prevalent
21:19.31XhoSun magic in the wrong hands is bad juju
21:19.35Xhobad juju m8
21:19.37HachimanI can imagine
21:19.53HachimanI wonder what can be done with Sun magic in the wrong hands
21:20.04OluapPlayerThe same with any magic in the wrong hands
21:20.26XhoJust on steroids I guess
21:20.39Hachimanwat can u do wrong wiv floramancy tho
21:20.46XhoExtreme Hayfever
21:20.50HachimanI mean, yes
21:21.04OluapPlayerCarnivorous plants, giant spiked vines, overrun civilized areas with flora
21:21.09XhoSodomisation with cactus
21:21.09Xhoc
21:21.27HachimanHm, cactus
21:21.31HachimanDesert floramancers
21:21.40XhoCactus Jack
21:21.40OluapPlayerNot a lot to work with
21:22.11HachimanThere are such things as desert plants
21:22.19Xholike a cactus
21:22.26OluapPlayerCompared to a forest or jungle, not a lot to work with
21:22.30OluapPlayerDon't patronize me pls
21:22.38Hachimanill fukn patronize da shit out of u
21:22.46Hachimanden ill antagonize u
21:23.01OluapPlayerwhat if i refuse
21:23.14Hachimanill-a make u an offer u cant-a refuse
21:23.24Xhoinb4 dead horse
21:23.46Wormy_off to the glue factory
21:23.47OluapPlayerI don't like horses so that's a yes
21:24.09XhoThey're dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle
21:24.15HachimanThanfully we don't have horse beastmen in the Fantasyverse or that'd be awkward
21:24.20XhoYeah I'm not a big fan of horses either
21:24.23XhoWe do actually
21:24.28Wormy_I've been chased by a horse twice and almost mowed down by one.
21:24.35HachimanOh
21:24.38HachimanWe do?
21:24.42XhoWe do actually have Fantasy Mahanayans somewhere mentioned but only a mention
21:24.50HachimanOh
21:24.51XhoThey're shamanistic nomads
21:24.58HachimanYou brought giant horse cock into the Fantasyverse
21:24.59OluapPlayerMahanayans aren't actually horse-like though, we just make fun of their mouth part
21:25.01Hachimanhope ur proud
21:25.14Xhoyes
21:25.20Xhofucking meat cactus
21:25.36HachimanOh God
21:25.44XhoHey you brought it up, I just embellished it
21:25.47OluapPlayerthat's just a hedgehog
21:26.09Xhoit's hip to fuck sanic
21:26.40OluapPlayerI was actually watching Discovery Channel this morning and the show was about 10 internet videos explained by scientists
21:27.03OluapPlayerOne of them had this half-naked australian git wearing nothing but boxing gloves jumping on top of a cactus
21:27.09Wormy_Think I've seen an episode of that series
21:27.12HachimanWhat the fuck
21:27.22Wormy_Yes he was a nob
21:27.26XhoLike you do
21:27.47OluapPlayerHe wanted to "fight" the cactus but all he got was about 5 galaxies worth of pain
21:27.58Wormy_That's a case where science and common sense agree.
21:27.58OluapPlayerSTRAYA CUNT
21:28.11HachimanNeeds a half-naked Australian chick wearing nothing but boxing gloves jumping on top of a meat cactus
21:28.23OluapPlayerWormy_: The science here was mostly an explanation on what cactus spikes actually are
21:28.34OluapPlayerThe idiot jumping into the cactus was just an idiot
21:28.36XhoWell
21:29.24OluapPlayerCactus spikes are their equivalent of leaves, they evolved that way to lose less water over time
21:29.26Hachiman>tfw you're a human armed with boxing gloves and you lose to a stationary plant that can't do fucking anything
21:29.36Wormy_<PROTECTED>
21:29.51XhoHachiman: [YOU DIED]
21:30.09OluapPlayerdon't think I'd watch that show again though, it can get ridiculously gross
21:30.27OluapPlayerOne of the videos had a girl who had a massive fly larva growing ON HER HEAD
21:30.36Xhonah
21:30.37Xhonah m8
21:30.40Xhodone here
21:30.48Xhostop pls
21:31.19Wormy_putt it out and eat it for revenge and to gain back what's lost
21:31.20HachimanI get reminded of a story I heard that there was a woman who walked into a chip shop and whoever was telling the story looked down to see a bunch of maggots or larvae infesting her foot
21:31.29OluapPlayerNumber 1 was pretty cool though, it was this monk guy who managed to throw a nail hard enough through a piece of glass to make it pass right through it
21:31.55HachimanDid the glass smash?
21:32.06OluapPlayerIt didn't, the nail just left a tiny hole
21:32.16HachimanThat's pretty awesome
21:32.25OluapPlayerBecause glass isn't a normal solid object
21:32.31dromXho: What if Vranntan may become the sporewiki version of the Krogans
21:32.40Wormy_The Shaolin can do impressive things
21:32.47XhoNo point because that's more or less the Murgur
21:33.07DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/nuKnuNr.gif alien vs predator has really gone downhill
21:33.15dromE.g. someone invents a plague that targets Vranntans, and renders them sterile for life
21:33.37HachimanShaolin remind me that we need more monk-type characters in the Fantasyverse
21:33.46HachimanI think the only one we have is... Eirik, I think?
21:33.52XhoPretty much
21:34.03OluapPlayerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous_solid this is why the glass didn't shatter
21:34.04HachimanImperios: Alhassan monks when
21:34.06OluapPlayerGlass is that
21:34.28XhoLonginus is the closest thing to a monk that survives in Orichalcum Elf lore but he's more of a spear-crazy templar
21:34.41HachimanThen it's not really a monk then hur
21:34.44Xhoaye
21:34.48Xhowait what no fuk u
21:35.30Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16641094_1355261874537309_456710052119423036_n.jpg?oh=ddad265cb90fe60ec86b669b9ae876b4&oe=58FECEB2
21:35.31OluapPlayerOne of the videos was a guy feeding a crocodile up close with a piece of meat
21:35.36Hachiman>not using Sun magic in tandem with ki powers to beat the shit out of your enemies with your bare fists
21:35.44OluapPlayerHe gets his leg stuck on the mud for a bit but the croc makes no effort to attack him
21:36.04ImperiosHachiman: Oh yes I should make Alhassan monks
21:36.05HachimanThink I've seen that vid around
21:36.15OluapPlayerBecause he was a familiar figure to the croc, and because being fed a piece of meat is much less energy-costly than attacking a living man
21:36.15Imperiosi mentioned an Alhassan monastic order somewhere
21:36.35ImperiosAn evil Xashanic one but still
21:36.43HachimanEvil monks
21:36.46HachimanThat sounds awesome
21:36.50OluapPlayeredit klaxxa and manorians pls
21:37.05Hachiman>Eirik vs. leader of the Xashanic monks
21:37.23HachimanProbably be unfair actually given I intend to keep Eirik's level of power ambiguous
21:37.43HachimanHe's also a pacifist who hates hurting people so
21:38.03OluapPlayerUnless they're Lympharians evidently
21:38.10Xhoone man army mode on
21:38.27HachimanLympharians are soulless aliens not tied to Isiris and they cannot be reasoned with
21:38.39OluapPlayerPraenuntius - we can      we simply don't want to
21:38.50HachimanEirik - ur a fukn cunt       sorry
21:39.16OluapPlayerAnd they're not soulless, they're powered by the souls of their victims
21:39.39XhoI keep having to remind myself they're Koldenweltian void golems
21:39.50XhoAnd not Kruos
21:40.07OluapPlayerThey're essentially demons anyway
21:40.28OluapPlayerThe crystal they're made from is mined from Crystallis
21:40.49HachimanYou get my point anyway; there's nothing which stops Eirik from being justified in beating the shit out of them hur
21:41.08OluapPlayerMore like him getting his shit beaten by Praenuntius m8
21:41.26Hachimandunt provoke me pls
21:41.40OluapPlayertalk shit get hit
21:41.45Xho>tfw eirik is actually aetheromancer
21:41.57HachimanI should probably make it clearer that Eirik also holds back because he thinks there's a chance he's gonna hurt the people around him
21:42.35HachimanNot in a "going into a mindless rage" kind of way, but in more of a "the immediate vicinity is possibly gonna get fucked" kind of way
21:42.41OluapPlayerHald-Sleac - see how well that ended        i died poor
21:43.37HachimanAnd Eirik learning aetheromancy would be awesome, although I can confirm he is but an electromancer hur
21:43.51XhoHe'd need an aetheromancy teacher as well
21:43.57HachimanAye
21:44.02XhoThere's only really two
21:44.12OluapPlayerSmeever - hello yes i can teach whatevermancy
21:44.26Xho>tfw smeever is caligaduro avatar
21:44.28HachimanSun / Aether smeevers
21:44.58XhoSmeever soup tastes a bit more electric than usual
21:45.00OluapPlayerSmeever - wanted to turn off the light but i am the light
21:45.30XhoAs for aetheromancy teachers, there's only Dragon-Elf and Nalashtannylor
21:45.50XhoNeither are particularly easy to come into contact with and less so to agree teaching aetheromancy
21:47.17HachimanMakes me wonder how people actually view Eirik, both in- and out of universe
21:47.27XhoHm
21:47.47XhoNone of my characters were particularly acquainted with him apart from Spear Man
21:47.53OluapPlayerI like Eirik, as do all my characters who don't want him dead
21:48.03XhoAnd yes I like Eirik as well
21:48.11XhoA bit of a break from the gung-ho heroes we all have
21:48.26OluapPlayerWell, Earath and Norrigan like Eirik. Clotho has no strong feelings for most of the Dar-Nahalant group
21:48.38XhoSeptimus - your eyes say different hon
21:48.39OluapPlayerAnd I forget Lyra exists half of the time including now
21:49.09HachimanClotho has proper friends now so she probably forgets about most of the Dar-Nahalant group anyway I imagine
21:49.15XhoLonginus sort of sees a younger self in Eirik I guess
21:49.40HachimanLonginus - ah yes I see my younger self in you                my younger self was a fucking idiot I hated him
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21:49.45OluapPlayerClotho didn't enjoy being part of the group
21:49.52OluapPlayerEarath and Norrigan are more open to it
21:50.11XhoThe Dar-Nahalant group is massively dysfunctional
21:50.52XhoThe only things stopping them from caving in was 1) apocalypse 2) a Sand Drake eating them
21:50.58Xhofiguratively
21:51.07OluapPlayerThe Sea Witch has her own special kind of way of liking people which includes calling them stupid all the time
21:51.20HachimanI think it's kind of amusing that how time goes on, members of the Dar-Nahalant group get involved in adventures of less and less grand proportions
21:51.41XhoRiad - bruh
21:51.56OluapPlayerXacutus - u wish
21:52.03HachimanHathgar - fug
21:52.24Xhogalaric hatgar X---DDDD
21:52.34Xhogalarig even
21:52.44Hachimandorf benis :DDDDDD
21:52.51Xhofug
21:53.18XhoIt doesn't really get much worse than the Void
21:53.18Hachimaninb4 Spurdo is an accurate representation of Hachi most of the time
21:53.28XhoUnless you happen to stumble across the Moon King
21:53.37OluapPlayerHachi - benis             Sea Witch - yours will fall off if you don't shut the fuck up
21:53.58drom"males lack these [female organs] and their sexual role is to impergenate their female partners"
21:54.01Xho>girlfriend is possessed by simulacrum                           fug
21:54.06dromI guess I am playing a dangerous game
21:54.14HachimanHachi just sits in his room all day making Spurdo jokes out loud to himself while everybody else goes mad
21:54.32XhoHachi is the true Simulacrum of Nightmares
21:54.34OluapPlayerMore like they beat him into submission until he cries
21:54.38OluapPlayerlook at the people he lives with
21:54.41HachimanThat too
21:55.04HachimanAlso, that foreshadowing at the end of Doctrina, I forgot to comment on it
21:55.15HachimanAbout Heilen mentioning Eostraeya to Clotho
21:55.31OluapPlayerI wanted to write stories with Vargash and then with Xacutus but since Hachi is gonna become inactive I might have to do them the descriptive way instead
21:55.44Hachimannon we can still work on them
21:55.48HachimanIt'll just take time
21:55.58XhoThis is what you get when you don't invite me in on things
21:56.11Hachimanhao dat make sense
21:56.20XhoNot sure
21:56.33OluapPlayerIt's not particularly foreshadowing to anything
21:56.38OluapPlayerIt was just a suggestion
21:56.55HachimanI'd like to do a fic involving Eostraeya as a bit of a focus at some point
21:57.08Xho#smokeweedeveryday
21:57.15OluapPlayerHathgar's Wonderful Gardening Day
21:57.15Xho>tfw no real focus
21:57.46XhoThinking about it I have no real characters to spare anyway
21:57.57XhoRiad, that's about it
21:58.06XhoMaybe Pelagrios
21:58.15HachimanMake new ones then tho
21:58.25XhoI have Ciqala who was that Taeleni Elf
21:58.52HachimanAh yes
21:59.55XhoThe only other one is Annamasakkan but as if he gives a fuck about saving the world
22:00.11XhoOr a particular geographic region
22:00.22XhoOr anything really the guy is a bit of a dick
22:00.41Hachimandats why character development is a thing tho
22:00.45XhoThere's also Vultusk and Kaaxhesh
22:01.07XhoAlthough very difficult to wind into a story
22:01.11Hachiman>Vultusk, a mass of dead bodies, meets Swinehound
22:01.16XhoVultusk - marry us
22:01.42XhoI was thinking about Vultusk earlier and how he might have ties to Id
22:02.12HachimanThat'd be curious
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22:02.30XhoThe guy is an insane mass of corpses so Id association would make sense (?)
22:02.33HachimanI mean, he covers the physically mutated part
22:02.58HachimanNot sure if he's insane in the Id kind of way, which basically turns you more and more aggressive and animalistic
22:03.48XhoWell
22:04.00XhoHe is the Black Sun's high priest of violence
22:04.16HachimanTrue
22:04.17XhoHis city is used as a death sentence
22:04.58XhoThere was once a story I had about Vultusk turning himself into some kind of flesh god by animating and possessing a frankstein's monsteresque dragon
22:05.11XhoAnd they had to stop him of course
22:05.37HachimanHathgar - fukn stop dat creepy shit
22:05.51XhoVutlusk - which one of us are you tellin exactly
22:06.05XhoKaaxhesh on the other hand, well
22:06.26XhoKaaxhesh is random
22:07.11XhoI think I based him off Necrid
22:07.20HachimanNecrid's pretty cool
22:08.08XhoOne thing I want to see more of though is the Outworld
22:08.19Xhostill reminds me of mortal kombat but still
22:09.02OluapPlayerThat'd imply Imp editing the fantasyverse
22:09.09Xhodo it nao
22:11.05ImpyDroid2Grrmrnev
22:11.18ImpyDroid2I could finish the story about how the Endless Host was formed
22:11.51OluapPlayerKimorgos - i tripped and my awesomeness exploded reducing everyone to bones
22:12.26Hachimaninb4 Kimorgos is just an evil Papyrus
22:12.30XhoI should really remake Pyyls'as again
22:12.39OluapPlayerWell no, Kimorgos is an animated suit of armor
22:12.47OluapPlayerHe's the Smelter Demon but without the hole face
22:13.21XhoAngry looking bastard
22:13.59OluapPlayerSmelter Demon? He's probably the hardest boss of Dark Souls 2 who's not from a DLC
22:14.32XhoWell you were right about the hole in the face
22:14.33Xhoew
22:15.09ImpyDroid2Hachiman: Koldenwelt is going to have a bad time
22:15.29OluapPlayerHe's technically optional
22:15.31Hachimanhur
22:15.34OluapPlayerBut killing him gives you a pretty good shortcut
22:15.57OluapPlayerSo you either kill him and get a shortcut or keep to the long path which has about 10 million katana knights in it
22:17.25XhoSo what exactly is the blue about
22:17.54HachimanFire becomes blue when it gets hot enough
22:17.58Xhodoi
22:18.03XhoI mean the Blue Smelter Demon
22:18.26HachimanAn example of DkSII's not very good filler bosses
22:18.49OluapPlayerYes
22:19.02OluapPlayerBlue Smelter is a harder Smelter who's a bonus boss of the DLC
22:19.51OluapPlayerThe difference is his attacks have different timings which fucks with your dodges, and he deals magic damage instead of fire damage
22:20.01OluapPlayerAlso his massive dildo sword is about twice longer with twice the hotbox
22:20.04OluapPlayerhitbox even
22:20.29Xhohotbox
22:20.30Xhoayy
22:20.58OluapPlayerA surprise really since that DLC also has the two best bosses in the game in it
22:21.54OluapPlayerhttps://youtu.be/FKkVtArZipM?t=22s Cairaoven was inspired by this fellow
22:23.32Xhooh okay big ass sword
22:26.28XhoYou need a boss like High Lord Wolnir
22:26.40XhoWho I find really creepy for some reason
22:26.55XhoProbably because of the way you just walk into him and he's right FUCKING THERE
22:28.06XhoMusic's pretty good as well
22:28.10OluapPlayerEh, Wolnir stops being scary when you realize you just need to attack his shiny glaring weakspots to kill him
22:28.33OluapPlayerbrb
22:29.13OluapPlayerNevermind back already
22:29.39OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w2OlY5W7IU here's the other good one
22:30.38XhoOne thing I never figured out is why they're larger than your character
22:31.23OluapPlayerTo make them more easy to target and hit
22:31.35XhoOh I thought there was a lore reason
22:31.53OluapPlayerThere may be one but it's mostly a gameplay decision
22:32.41OluapPlayerstill
22:32.45OluapPlayerGRORIOUS NIPPON STEEL
22:32.54Xhoohboy
22:33.08XhoI'd say my favourite bosses from Dark Souls from watching are Ornstein and Smough
22:33.27HachimanI thought the reason they were so large was to do with how souls work
22:33.41HachimanAnd that the more powerful they are or the more you have, the bigger and stronger you become
22:34.01OluapPlayerNot really, there's no source to that information
22:34.23OluapPlayerYou collect a gorillion souls durng your journey, including some gods', but you're still a manlet compared to the bosses
22:35.24XhoArtorias is pretty cool as well
22:35.31OluapPlayerHe is
22:35.52OluapPlayerFume Knight is Dark Souls 2's Artorias, both boss-wise and thematically
22:35.57Xhoafaik he was the hardest boss in the game
22:36.33HachimanEither Ornstein and Smough or Artorias are the hardest bosses in DS1 I believe
22:36.53HachimanThat or Manis
22:36.54OluapPlayerNah
22:36.55OluapPlayerFour Kings are harder
22:36.56HachimanManus*
22:37.10HachimanI didn't have difficulty with the Four Kings to be honest
22:37.14OluapPlayerJust remembering the Four Kings put me off of replaying Dark Souls 1
22:37.30HachimanThey're big targets and I managed to kill them quick before more could come
22:37.34XhoAnd of course Nito
22:37.44dromThat is Nito
22:37.51OluapPlayerNito is a cool character but he's a very mediocre boss
22:37.53XhoAlthough I remember him being quite easy
22:37.54Xhoc
22:38.10HachimanNito doesn't wanna fight you, he just wants to nap
22:38.17XhoManus is quite cool as well
22:39.06OluapPlayerManus and Artorias are about the same in difficulty, at least to me
22:39.14OluapPlayeras in they're both fucking hard
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22:40.33OluapPlayerMy favorite boss in the first game though is Kalameet
22:40.49Xhodergon
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23:23.47DrodoEmpireHey
23:28.09DrodoEmpirebefore memes https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4RHAG2UcAAsb1V.jpg:large after memes https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Rlg2vUYAAHRFU.jpg:large
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23:45.37DrodoEmpireThat's like some judo shit right there
23:47.10HachimanThis reminds me
23:47.23HachimanAncient Vikings were said to be very fucking good wrestlers and grapplers
23:48.20DrodoEmpire^
23:49.42HachimanIt's kinda weird to think about old European nations and tribes and whatnot having their own martial arts when you usually associate such with the East
23:50.17DrodoEmpireYeah...
23:50.29HachimanMakes me wonder why so many martial arts actually came out of the East actually when compared to the West
23:50.29DrodoEmpireEven though arguably martial arts were even more diverse in Europe, for a time
23:50.36HachimanThey were?
23:50.40DrodoEmpireHoly shit yes
23:51.04DrodoEmpireThe number of fencing manuals, for everything from swords to halberds to full-sized pikes are staggering
23:51.17DrodoEmpireAnd there was definitely unarmed combat training too
23:51.22HachimanOh right, sword martial arts
23:51.38MonetI think that's part of the issue
23:51.42DrodoEmpireI believe the Greeks or Macedonians had their own form of wrestling
23:51.42HachimanYeah I was more referring to unarmed but you have made a poit
23:51.43Hachimanpoint*
23:52.00HachimanI cannot imagine how many fucking sword martial arts there are from throughout Europe honestly
23:52.07MonetWhen people say "martial arts" the usual image is unarmed combat
23:52.22DrodoEmpireIt might be that eastern martial arts are both a relatively-recent import and concern themselves a lot with unarmed combat, which is very practical knowledge today
23:52.40MonetThey're also an entire genre of film.
23:52.40DrodoEmpireJust as knowing one's way around a rapier or dagger used to be practical knowledge in 1600s Europe
23:52.44DrodoEmpireYeah
23:52.56MonetCan't *quite* say the same about Western martial arts, even the unarmed ones.
23:53.18DrodoEmpireYeah, most movies about western martial arts are movies on, say, the Three Musketeers, who use swords
23:53.43DrodoEmpireThat's cool, but its not a hobby or a thing that's terribly practical today or an investment people will want to make
23:53.53HachimanBoxing as a formal martial art is also an Egyptian thing iirc
23:53.58DrodoEmpireAhh
23:54.33HachimanFunny, I'd not think of the Egyptians as being innovators of punching things
23:54.38DrodoEmpire^
23:55.27MonetYou had wrestling in Macedonia.
23:55.49DrodoEmpireWell, I guess you'd need to learn how to beat the shit out of people so they'll stop laughing at you for making your Pharaoh jerk off into the Nile every year
23:55.54DrodoEmpireshrugs
23:56.03HachimanWait what
23:56.09DrodoEmpire...Pretty sure they did that
23:56.25DrodoEmpireEither once a lifetime or yearly, its one of those really fucking weird things xD
23:56.59DrodoEmpireI'm not verifying it though, sooner not have "Egyptian masturbation ritual" in my history
23:57.06HachimanSo the Egyptians had their lords masturbate into their fucking LIVELIHOOD while the Greeks I believe had a lord who thought he could kill Poseidon in a vengeful rage via stabbing the sea
23:57.25DrodoEmpireOh, that was... Caligula. Roman
23:57.26MonetI think its to do with how the pharaohs were gods o nearth
23:57.35DrodoEmpireAnd he sent an entire legion to do it
23:57.45MonetCaligula was just bonkers. No symbolism to it.
23:57.53MonetBut yeah, he did declare war on Posiedon.
23:57.56DrodoEmpire^
23:58.05HachimanStill, having your king jack it into the water that you drank, cleaned, and bathed with
23:58.23DrodoEmpireMany worse things are in the Nile than a bit of Pharaoh jizz
23:58.34MonetAye
23:58.35HachimanOh, you mean how they used to make soap?
23:58.56DrodoEmpire...How did they? xD
23:58.58MonetLook at the Ganges today.
23:59.07DrodoEmpire^
23:59.08HachimanOr at least, I thought they did something really fucking gross with animal fat or something to make soap
23:59.13DrodoEmpireOh, yeah
23:59.15DrodoEmpireNasty stuff
23:59.45HachimanI have to wonder how the fuck Nile crocodiles didn't GTFO
23:59.52MonetPlus for a long time, beer was safer to drink than sourced water.
23:59.59DrodoEmpireSo tl;dr egyptian kings used to bust a nut in their life-giving river, Caligula tried to kill Poseidon and not only can white people not dance, they can't do martial arts <.<

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