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| 01:29.54 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, back for good |
| 01:30.04 | DrodoEmpire | Back from my nap -and- my bookbinding |
| 01:31.05 | DrodoEmpire | Bookbinding sucked, but I had one interesting dream during my nap where Joe Rogan told a story on his podcast about how he survived a zombie attack |
| 01:31.05 | DrodoEmpire | So |
| 01:31.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:37.15 | Monet | Lol |
| 01:37.32 | Monet | Funnily enough been doing some booking myself. |
| 01:37.42 | Monet | Catching up on the old' 1984. |
| 01:43.23 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Interesting dream though. |
| 01:43.38 | DrodoEmpire | It was fucking weird xD |
| 01:45.07 | DrodoEmpire | Another one that was -much- scarier was earlier on, and I think I was like a sailor on a 16th century war galley during a sea battle. I leapt off and what I remember most is the sense of drowning I had >.< |
| 01:45.22 | DrodoEmpire | And then I think it ended, or I "woke up" into another dream |
| 01:45.56 | DrodoEmpire | (I think the ship I was on was sinking or something, and we were fighting the British for some reason) |
| 01:46.47 | DrodoEmpire | -that- was an interesting dream |
| 01:48.11 | DrodoEmpire | Wouldn't quite call it a nightmare though, just... A bit scary |
| 01:49.11 | Monet | Fear of drowning. |
| 01:49.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I've never enjoyed swimming |
| 01:50.54 | DrodoEmpire | And the zombie dream probably comes from my listening to the Joe Rogan Experience and the fact that I had just played L4D2 earlier |
| 01:50.55 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 01:51.00 | DrodoEmpire | Not nearly as peofound |
| 01:51.03 | DrodoEmpire | *profound |
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| 12:46.17 | Tek0516 | So we must of got around 20-30cm of snow yesterday |
| 12:50.44 | DrodoEmpire | NS is currently getting fucked, that's all I know >.< |
| 12:51.08 | DrodoEmpire | We're supposed to get close to 2 feet, but I think the storm's starting a bit later than anticipated |
| 12:51.22 | Tek0516 | Yeah, someone mentioned to me you're supposed to get 60cm or something? |
| 12:51.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yep |
| 12:52.47 | Tek0516 | Gah. The buses are especially busy this morning, last two were too full for me to board |
| 12:53.27 | DrodoEmpire | Yikes |
| 12:54.41 | Tek0516 | I get on right before a college so it's mostly students getting off in a couple stops too |
| 13:06.19 | DrodoEmpire | I hope dino's on later-- got stuff to discuss with him |
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| 13:26.50 | NeonPanda | hi all |
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| 14:55.36 | DrodoEmpire | Hi guys |
| 14:56.07 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 14:56.43 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 14:56.53 | Ghelae | Hi |
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| 15:31.17 | DrodoEmpire | lmao I'm gonna get fucked https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4jiXIZWMAAJCHj.jpg:large |
| 15:31.29 | DrodoEmpire | (I'm riiight in the red zone >.<) |
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| 15:31.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 15:32.03 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:33.24 | NeonPanda | Australia's in the middle of a heatwave that forced the weather forecasters to bring out the purple of doom |
| 15:36.13 | DrodoEmpire | Uh oh |
| 15:39.22 | OluapPlayer | u gon dai |
| 15:40.56 | NeonPanda | jokes aside we're talking potentially 45 degree temperatures, so the government actually put out a notice across all media with advice for dealing with the heat, and recommendations that people regularly check on young and elderly friends and relatives |
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| 15:44.41 | OluapPlayer | 45 degrees |
| 15:44.45 | OluapPlayer | Literally hell on earth |
| 15:48.22 | NeonPanda | well it was already that, just now it's hot enough to match |
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| 16:07.06 | dino82 | hi |
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| 16:07.17 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 16:07.53 | dino82 | hi |
| 16:44.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hey dinp |
| 16:44.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | *dino |
| 16:50.48 | dino82 | hi |
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| 17:02.28 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. I've been practising on making helmets. |
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| 17:02.37 | Groxkiller98 | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/37/Helmet.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213170158 |
| 17:02.52 | Groxkiller98 | Does that look like an actual helmet to you guys? |
| 17:03.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yep |
| 17:03.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | Pretty cool, too |
| 17:03.54 | Groxkiller98 | :D |
| 17:04.01 | dino82 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | What's it for? |
| 17:04.15 | Groxkiller98 | It actually animates as well, because I used a robot mouth under it. |
| 17:04.23 | Groxkiller98 | It's for a Teyan Juggernaught. |
| 17:04.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh |
| 17:05.52 | Groxkiller98 | Lemme upload a full image. |
| 17:06.13 | Groxkiller98 | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/86/TeyanJuggernaught.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213170604 |
| 17:06.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | Huh cool |
| 17:06.46 | DrodoEmpire_ | Almost looks regal, in a way |
| 17:06.54 | Groxkiller98 | Regal? |
| 17:07.03 | Groxkiller98 | They're meant to be imposing, not regal. XD |
| 17:07.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | Regal -can- be imposing tho |
| 17:07.21 | Groxkiller98 | I suppose. |
| 17:07.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though if that's not what you're going for then I'd switch to a darker colour scheme |
| 17:07.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Maybe black and brass instead of brass and black? |
| 17:08.24 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe. Lemme try that. |
| 17:09.22 | Groxkiller98 | I can't actually do that without remaking it. >_> |
| 17:09.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ah shi |
| 17:09.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | *shit |
| 17:09.52 | Groxkiller98 | Not to worry. |
| 17:10.03 | Groxkiller98 | I can improve still. Just need to tweak certain parts. |
| 17:10.38 | Groxkiller98 | It's the shoulders that refuse to recolour really. But the black parts can't be recoloured because of the parts I used. |
| 17:11.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | Huh... |
| 17:13.00 | Groxkiller98 | DI parts... |
| 17:13.07 | Groxkiller98 | Some like colours, some don't. |
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| 17:13.48 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 17:13.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hey |
| 17:14.13 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
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| 17:20.40 | Groxkiller98 | Now? http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a2/TeyanJuggernaught2.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213172027 |
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| 17:22.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah, looks cool |
| 17:22.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | I'd keep both though |
| 17:22.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | Maybe the original could be a sort of imperial guard> |
| 17:22.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | *? |
| 17:22.59 | Groxkiller98 | Sure. |
| 17:23.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
| 17:23.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: I killed Xavius yesterday |
| 17:23.23 | Imperios | Oooh |
| 17:23.25 | Imperios | On Normal? |
| 17:23.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Heroic |
| 17:23.54 | Imperios | Holy shit that's awesome |
| 17:24.07 | Imperios | You are going to outgear me soon enough |
| 17:24.11 | OluapPlayer_ | First raid with my guild and we did it on heroic |
| 17:24.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Xavius killed us about 5 or 6 times before we took him down |
| 17:24.40 | Groxkiller98 | I'm running Nighthold LFR right now. >_> |
| 17:25.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Fuck that spider boss though |
| 17:25.03 | Xho | Evening |
| 17:25.46 | Xho | Hachiman Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/23543 Did a map of Talmyr on Saturday (?) |
| 17:26.05 | Hachiman | Oh cool |
| 17:26.18 | Hachiman | I'm setting up a laptop right now so you'll have to give me some time |
| 17:26.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Overall it was an awesome experience |
| 17:26.36 | Hachiman | Gotta learn how to use fucking Win10 |
| 17:26.40 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Cenarius was awful as a tank |
| 17:26.47 | Xho | lol win10 cunt says a win10 cunt |
| 17:26.57 | OluapPlayer_ | I was expecting Cenarius to give us trouble but we took him down in one try |
| 17:27.01 | Imperios | Huh |
| 17:27.18 | OluapPlayer_ | It surprised me, I always heard he was the hardest boss in the raid |
| 17:27.21 | Imperios | I wiped a lot on him, his spear ability was difficult as fuck |
| 17:27.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Instead Xavius kicked our asses instead |
| 17:27.52 | Xho | Isn't Xavius part of Emerald Nightmare |
| 17:27.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 17:28.00 | Groxkiller98 | Yep. |
| 17:28.01 | Xho | ayy |
| 17:28.11 | Xho | That's quite a new raid from what I remember |
| 17:28.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Not really, 2 new raids have come out since then |
| 17:28.29 | Groxkiller98 | ER is old. |
| 17:28.31 | Xho | eh i tried |
| 17:28.43 | OluapPlayer_ | The Nightmare is breaching into the real world, you need to venture into it and kill Xavius to put an end to it |
| 17:29.09 | Xho | rite |
| 17:29.18 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ywTPvgilE good song this |
| 17:30.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Emerald Nightmare was the first raid, then came Trial of Valor, and then Nighthold a month ago |
| 17:30.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Tomb of Sargeras is in the next patch |
| 17:30.25 | Xho | So what was Mythic Gul'dan all about |
| 17:30.36 | Xho | Nighthold right |
| 17:30.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 17:30.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Final boss of the newest raid on the hardest difficulty = noteworthy |
| 17:31.05 | Xho | get crackin den |
| 17:31.57 | OluapPlayer_ | And from a story perspective he was the primary villain of this expansion as well as the expansion before it so him dying is a pretty big deal |
| 17:32.18 | Groxkiller98 | I'm glad he's finally dead. |
| 17:32.23 | Xho | So basically Gul'dan Part Deux |
| 17:32.32 | Groxkiller98 | If he gets ressed, I'm gonna be mad. |
| 17:32.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Gul'dan: Part you actually fight him |
| 17:32.49 | Xho | huh well |
| 17:33.07 | OluapPlayer_ | You don't fight him in Warlords of Draenor despite him being the main villain |
| 17:33.16 | Xho | I don't really know any of the WoW expansions apart from Catacylsm |
| 17:33.16 | OluapPlayer_ | You fight his generic demon boss instead |
| 17:33.25 | Xho | And now Warlords of Draenor |
| 17:33.34 | Xho | cataclysm even |
| 17:33.41 | Groxkiller98 | WoD was awful. |
| 17:33.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Orclords of Metzen |
| 17:33.59 | Groxkiller98 | Cata was underwhelming, and they really underplayed Deathwing's character. |
| 17:34.03 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman Imperios: Also you guys wouldn't mind if I updated those map markers on the Koldenwelt map right |
| 17:34.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Go ahead |
| 17:34.16 | Groxkiller98 | He had an amazing personality, 90% of which was ignored. |
| 17:34.36 | Groxkiller98 | Instead Blizzard took the "Rawr, scary dragon" route. And I hated that. |
| 17:35.00 | Groxkiller98 | I much preferred the cunning manipulative Deathwing we saw in Day of the Dragon. |
| 17:35.37 | OluapPlayer_ | I have no strong feelings for Deathwing, but I found his death scene very underwhelming, since he kinda just turned into dust |
| 17:35.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Plus green jesus stole the kill so there's that |
| 17:36.07 | Groxkiller98 | Both valid points. |
| 17:36.37 | Groxkiller98 | Thrall can get stomped on by a... something for other. And I do wanna see Deathwing come back. |
| 17:36.47 | Groxkiller98 | I've even been thinking on how it could happen... |
| 17:37.03 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't like characters coming back from the dead |
| 17:37.23 | Groxkiller98 | Same, but Deathwing deserved a better ending. |
| 17:37.43 | Groxkiller98 | And technically WoD ressed litterally all the old orc characters from Warcraft 1, 2 and 3... |
| 17:38.02 | OluapPlayer_ | It didn't, those were different people with the same names |
| 17:38.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Only character who was ressed in WoD was Archimonde |
| 17:38.21 | Groxkiller98 | While technically true, they were still the same people. |
| 17:38.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Then he died again because he's a fucking loser |
| 17:38.26 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 17:38.30 | Groxkiller98 | Archi is a loser. |
| 17:39.43 | Groxkiller98 | Still, if Deathwing got ressed, I wouldn't be as mad about it as if they ressed a different character. |
| 17:40.00 | Groxkiller98 | And they've still ressed both his kids. |
| 17:40.25 | Groxkiller98 | And several other characters. (WotLK is very guilty of that). |
| 17:40.55 | NeonPanda | to be fair, WotLK WAS about the big daddy necromancer :P |
| 17:41.07 | Groxkiller98 | That's why it gets away with it. |
| 17:41.31 | Groxkiller98 | And with the Infinite Dragonflight, DW could get ressed. |
| 17:41.49 | OluapPlayer_ | I didn't mind Nefarian coming back from the dead considering he didn't really do anything other than be menacing up from his raid room |
| 17:42.00 | Groxkiller98 | Nozdormu put safeguards in place to prevent it: Murozond, who is Nozdormu, could easily undo them. |
| 17:42.16 | OluapPlayer_ | The less time travel, the better |
| 17:42.22 | Groxkiller98 | I always wished that Neffy would be more sinister. |
| 17:42.38 | Groxkiller98 | Onyxia was cool, because she actually did shit from the shadows. |
| 17:42.53 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe a zombie Deathwing? XD |
| 17:44.42 | Groxkiller98 | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/86/TeyanJuggernaught.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213170604 Or http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a2/TeyanJuggernaught2.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213172027 |
| 17:44.47 | Groxkiller98 | Which is better? |
| 17:45.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: https://tinyurl.com/gwgwcte look whose remains are in the Tomb of Sargeras raid |
| 17:46.18 | Groxkiller98 | Ha. Sweet. |
| 17:46.29 | Groxkiller98 | I wonder how Gul'Dan reacted to his own corpse. |
| 17:46.43 | Imperios | Gul'dan - ;_; |
| 17:46.54 | OluapPlayer_ | From the story they uploaded on Youtube, I don't think he encountered his corpse |
| 17:46.54 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 17:48.50 | Groxkiller98 | Still, Deathwing was always my favourite villain. He was an awesome character, in my opinion. Yet Cata just didn't deliver on him. |
| 17:49.52 | Imperios | Deathwing pre-WoW was actually pretty intelligent |
| 17:50.14 | Groxkiller98 | Yeah. |
| 17:50.46 | Groxkiller98 | Deathwing Pre-WoW was awesome for his cunning and intellect. Which is why I hated Cata's portrayal of him. |
| 17:51.29 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't think I have a favorite villain. I don't particularly dislike any of them save for Garrosh who can fuck off |
| 17:52.33 | Groxkiller98 | Garrosh was cool, until MoP. |
| 17:52.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: Actually I just remembered something I wanted to tell you. I was reminded that I once came across a custom Warcraft III map which was a remake of Molten Core |
| 17:52.42 | Groxkiller98 | Then they retconned all his good qualities. |
| 17:53.03 | Imperios | They just plain did not know what to do with him |
| 17:53.04 | OluapPlayer_ | There were custom models for the mobs too |
| 17:53.11 | Imperios | I liked Illidan as a kid |
| 17:53.13 | OluapPlayer_ | I saw the Core Hounds and was fucking fascinated |
| 17:53.24 | Imperios | Which you can kind of tell by my first Spore empire hur |
| 17:53.36 | Imperios | Now doe |
| 17:53.37 | Groxkiller98 | I still remember his quote about honour. |
| 17:53.39 | OluapPlayer_ | they were not prepared so they were retconned |
| 17:54.01 | Imperios | I actually want to rename them into something resembling "Illidan", but not exactly "Illidan" |
| 17:54.12 | Imperios | I've been thiniking of "Ila-adam" |
| 17:54.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Malfurion |
| 17:54.15 | Hachiman | Yllidan |
| 17:54.18 | Imperios | Arabic for "God-Man" |
| 17:54.24 | Groxkiller98 | In the Stonetalon Mountains after Garrosh "dismisses" Overlord Krom'gar, I'd say was the orc's best moment. |
| 17:54.29 | Hachiman | God man what are you doing |
| 17:54.39 | OluapPlayer_ | hur |
| 17:54.47 | Groxkiller98 | Then they had to retcon it. >_> |
| 17:54.56 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: Jokes on you, I actually have a bipedal version of the Illidan named "Malfurion" |
| 17:55.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Female Yllidans also know as Tyrandes |
| 17:55.12 | Imperios | It's like a bird thing |
| 17:55.23 | Imperios | And speak with fucking Jamaican accents |
| 17:55.41 | OluapPlayer_ | you be not prepared mon |
| 17:56.02 | Groxkiller98 | Ya be not prepared! |
| 17:56.11 | Groxkiller98 | ...To much? |
| 17:56.33 | OluapPlayer_ | We know night elves are just evolved dark trolls so it's not far off |
| 17:56.58 | Groxkiller98 | What da ya mean what kind o' accent is this? It be a troll accent, mon! |
| 17:57.52 | OluapPlayer_ | And speaking of Molten Core, actually one of my favorites is definitely Ragnaros |
| 17:57.57 | OluapPlayer_ | I love everything about him |
| 17:58.07 | Groxkiller98 | By fire be purged! |
| 17:58.13 | Groxkiller98 | He was indeed quite awesome. |
| 17:58.42 | Groxkiller98 | My fav is DW, followed by Arthas and Rag. Then Neffy and Onyxia. |
| 17:58.48 | Groxkiller98 | Then Maly and Murozond. |
| 17:59.09 | Groxkiller98 | The fact five of those are dragons should probably concern me... |
| 18:06.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | Where the fuck have blue-feathered chickens been all my life |
| 18:06.35 | Groxkiller98 | ?? |
| 18:06.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/04/46/b8/0446b833f643905b2384f3fd03eff488.jpg |
| 18:06.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QbEXjNjpxB0/Uz9LIw487bI/AAAAAAAAwQE/cpV8kEVBARc/s1600/P1010567.JPG |
| 18:06.45 | NeonPanda | my uncle had one of those |
| 18:07.00 | Groxkiller98 | The blue conspiracy thickens! |
| 18:07.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | I just learnt of their existence from my genetics homework |
| 18:07.05 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
| 18:07.14 | NeonPanda | green puppies win |
| 18:07.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | What |
| 18:07.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | WHAT |
| 18:07.50 | NeonPanda | there's a very, VERY rare genetic condition which causes newborn puppies to have green fur for the first few weeks of life |
| 18:08.00 | NeonPanda | when I say very rare, I mean there's literally like three recorded incidents |
| 18:08.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Holy shit |
| 18:08.20 | NeonPanda | https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/nintchdbpict000299683654.jpg?strip=all&w=540 behold |
| 18:08.33 | OluapPlayer_ | alien bork |
| 18:08.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | aww |
| 18:08.50 | Xho | OluapPlayer_ Imperios Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1776 nu markers c |
| 18:08.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | That's pretty cool though |
| 18:08.59 | Groxkiller98 | Jeez... |
| 18:09.06 | NeonPanda | mhm, sadly the puppy's fur is now normal colour |
| 18:09.18 | Groxkiller98 | I've just had a thought... |
| 18:09.41 | NeonPanda | now what we really need to get on to is selective glandular activation so that I can have natural purple eyes |
| 18:09.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Landmark, Shrine and Ruin have no markers |
| 18:09.51 | Groxkiller98 | What is Koldenwelt was a planet inside the science-fiction verse that nobody had discovered? |
| 18:09.53 | Xho | refresh den |
| 18:10.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Did, still no markers |
| 18:10.22 | NeonPanda | Groxkiller98: this is no because, to quote the rule page, "what would be the point of having two fictional universes?" |
| 18:10.38 | Groxkiller98 | Yeah, I know. |
| 18:10.50 | Groxkiller98 | But just thinking about it... What could happen? |
| 18:10.52 | NeonPanda | the only reason I know that is because I was reading it literally two hours ago before I presented an idea to Hachi |
| 18:11.14 | Groxkiller98 | I know they're not the same universe, it's just a what-if scenario. |
| 18:11.19 | Xho | fucking markers |
| 18:12.51 | Xho | Try now |
| 18:13.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Now they work |
| 18:13.47 | Xho | I might change the ruin one |
| 18:13.50 | Xho | doesn't make much sense |
| 18:14.02 | Treebeard | I like the art style |
| 18:21.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Groxkiller: I dunno |
| 18:21.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Koldenwelt would probably be written off as an unadvanced world and shouldn't be touched |
| 18:21.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | Granted, one -full- of essence/magic/whichever we're blending two universe at this point |
| 18:30.02 | Xho | Okay updated the ruin marker |
| 18:30.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Looks better |
| 18:39.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
| 18:40.37 | *** join/#sporewiki Krassio (~androirc@189.182.68.218) |
| 18:40.44 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
| 18:41.00 | Krassio | Greetings |
| 18:41.42 | dino82 | hi |
| 18:42.19 | Xho | Hi |
| 18:50.31 | Imperios | hEYA vAL |
| 18:50.58 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire_: There was actually a crossover story where a team from the Fiction Universe literally crash landed on Koldenwelt |
| 18:51.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | Really? |
| 18:51.09 | Imperios | Yes |
| 18:51.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | Link? |
| 18:51.13 | Imperios | It was part of Tantummodo |
| 18:51.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh |
| 18:52.46 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tantummodo_Mortem/Solitude#Journey_Through_Reality There we go |
| 18:52.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh thanks |
| 18:53.05 | Imperios | I am proud of this |
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| 18:53.34 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 18:54.01 | Imperios | Actually making this story was awful and I was basically a wreck by the end it |
| 18:54.04 | Imperios | But now that I think about it |
| 18:54.07 | Imperios | It was fucking awesome |
| 18:54.09 | Wormy_ | How's Single's Awareness Day treating you all? |
| 18:54.12 | Imperios | Hachiman fucking Iovera |
| 18:54.28 | Imperios | Or rather |
| 18:54.39 | Imperios | Alternate universe evil crime lord femdom Iovera playing with Hachi |
| 18:54.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Today is Valentine's |
| 18:54.46 | OluapPlayer_ | ? |
| 18:54.49 | Imperios | Tomorrow |
| 18:55.01 | OluapPlayer_ | I thought it had already passed |
| 18:55.01 | Wormy_ | Mentioning "single" and "hachiman" in the same sentence |
| 18:55.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Shows how much I care |
| 18:55.05 | Wormy_ | Same |
| 18:55.34 | Wormy_ | Means we've got go through it again |
| 18:55.38 | Xho | and again |
| 18:55.51 | Wormy_ | Everyday is SAD day |
| 18:56.20 | Imperios | There's actually a girl I am currently trying to impress |
| 18:56.21 | OluapPlayer_ | https://cdn.meme.am/cache/images/folder402/15072402.jpg relevant to subject |
| 18:56.30 | Imperios | BUT KNOWING MY LUCK WITH GIRLS |
| 18:57.45 | Xho | Better than ours |
| 18:57.48 | Imperios | Seriously though |
| 18:57.59 | Imperios | I am not sure if I should send her anything tomorrow |
| 18:58.15 | Imperios | We like met and talked a while a week or so ago, then texted a bit |
| 18:58.23 | Imperios | Discussed Star Trek and whatnot |
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| 19:00.17 | Krassio | Well, I proposed to my gf last Saturday |
| 19:00.40 | Wormy__ | I was trying to raise awareness of SAD and now this |
| 19:00.42 | Xho | cesar got game |
| 19:00.47 | Wormy__ | I'm only jk |
| 19:01.25 | Krassio | She said yes |
| 19:01.36 | OluapPlayer_ | dangit wormo |
| 19:02.03 | Wormy__ | We outnumber the valentines, at least |
| 19:02.13 | Krassio | Dam rite Michael |
| 19:02.17 | Wormy__ | I think we could take them |
| 19:02.23 | Xho | FOK |
| 19:03.25 | Xho | I need a name for a mountain |
| 19:04.21 | Wormy__ | Mt. Mountain |
| 19:04.26 | Xho | you bastard |
| 19:04.33 | OluapPlayer_ | kek |
| 19:05.58 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/23543 Really is the worst feature ever |
| 19:06.03 | Xho | Markers don't stay loaded |
| 19:08.51 | Treebeard | Erigen or Erithen for a Dwarven name? |
| 19:09.04 | Hachiman | I'd go with Erighen |
| 19:09.13 | Xho | Erigen |
| 19:09.26 | OluapPlayer_ | BEER |
| 19:09.28 | Xho | guttural sounds are better |
| 19:09.30 | Xho | And eber |
| 19:09.31 | Krassio | Erigern |
| 19:09.32 | Xho | beer even |
| 19:09.36 | Hachiman | beerd |
| 19:09.42 | Xho | "I'd like some eber please" |
| 19:09.47 | Xho | Sounds like some manufacturing chemical |
| 19:10.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Eber, cousin of Urc and Hakov |
| 19:10.56 | Xho | Need to make a character called Hakov |
| 19:11.03 | Xho | >tfw Dwarf/Orc hybrid |
| 19:11.06 | Hachiman | Make him an evil dwarf guy |
| 19:11.11 | Treebeard | (Er/Eri = elder/old; Gen = stone/monolith) |
| 19:11.11 | Xho | greater alcohol tolerance than Pelagrios |
| 19:11.53 | Hachiman | I mean, Dweorg descendants can breed with humans so |
| 19:12.00 | Hachiman | Why couldn't they breed with orcs and elves |
| 19:13.14 | Hachiman | Granted, you have a weird taste in men / women if you're a non-dwarf lusting after a dwarf |
| 19:14.19 | Hachiman | Xho: https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/16602964_1639232156092619_6045034333885006608_n.png?oh=7f1551daeffbd2da98854762ba81622f&oe=59442EA8 |
| 19:16.20 | OluapPlayer_ | orc / gnome for maximum shittery |
| 19:16.56 | Wormy__ | brb |
| 19:16.59 | Hachiman | gnomes aint dweorg tho |
| 19:17.00 | Xho | Hachiman: Funnily enough I made a joke to my friend earlier about him taking Dwarven Sphere too literally |
| 19:17.04 | Hachiman | deyr gnomes |
| 19:17.08 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:17.21 | OluapPlayer_ | ye and khargrim aint dweorg deyr khargrim |
| 19:17.29 | Hachiman | Khargrim are Dweorg tho |
| 19:17.40 | Xho | I'm a little lost on the Koldenweltian dwarf lore |
| 19:17.49 | Xho | Mainly because it ISN'T REALLY WRITTEN ANYWHERE FOR FUKKS SAKE |
| 19:17.54 | Hachiman | Yeah it is? |
| 19:18.01 | Xho | nah m8 8D |
| 19:18.09 | Xho | Well I know the Khargrim lore |
| 19:18.13 | Xho | Dweorg lore, not really |
| 19:18.15 | OluapPlayer_ | There were Dweorg, they were slaves of the Ordnung, they freed themselves and spread around, their children became other races such as the Khargrim |
| 19:18.28 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AKhargrim_Greatholds#History Goes fairly in-depth about Dweorg |
| 19:19.01 | Xho | Rings a bell now |
| 19:19.12 | Xho | Evil dwarf guy hm |
| 19:19.25 | Xho | I don't know what the possibilities are of Dalmiric dwarves |
| 19:19.30 | Xho | I mean there's Dalmiric elves and humans |
| 19:19.35 | Xho | Not orcs though |
| 19:19.38 | Hachiman | Depends if the Dweorg migrated into Talmyr |
| 19:20.08 | Hachiman | I mean they migrated as far as Qliphoth, no reason they really couldn't migrate into Talmyr |
| 19:20.08 | Xho | If it happened around the same time the lower casts of the Imperium migrated north then it's highly possible |
| 19:20.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Nothing stops you from just making your own thing when you already did it until now |
| 19:20.51 | Xho | hm |
| 19:21.03 | Hachiman | The Runehaven Domain started the migrations about ~4,000 years before the New Age so |
| 19:21.12 | Xho | Hm not likely then |
| 19:21.31 | Xho | The Imperium's migrations were ~5000 years ago |
| 19:21.42 | Hachiman | No reason they couldn't have simply migrated there themselves, passing through the north to get there |
| 19:21.48 | Xho | Maybe |
| 19:21.53 | Hachiman | Like how they passed through the south to get to Qliphoth |
| 19:22.01 | Xho | and look what happened dere lol |
| 19:22.11 | Hachiman | They're thriving? |
| 19:22.28 | Xho | Qliphoth ain't thrivin wat u on about |
| 19:22.29 | Xho | Or is it |
| 19:22.45 | Hachiman | The dwarves are faring better than the minotaurs, that's for certain |
| 19:22.49 | Xho | Acidic wasteland of doesn't usually imply thriving |
| 19:22.53 | Hachiman | I mean, they're more populous for one |
| 19:22.56 | Xho | -of |
| 19:23.11 | Xho | Fair enough |
| 19:23.21 | Hachiman | Qliphoth as a region is basically shit but the survivors there are sort of paying off |
| 19:23.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Only the area around the volcano is a wasteland, there are tropical jungles further away from it |
| 19:23.54 | Xho | Not sure really, Dalmiric Dwarves would be alright but I don't know whether they'd have deviants to them |
| 19:24.06 | Xho | The Dalmiric Humans & Elves are generally a tolerant bunch |
| 19:24.08 | Hachiman | How'd you mean? |
| 19:24.21 | Xho | As in, not many evil members of their race |
| 19:24.25 | Xho | Actually none really |
| 19:24.42 | Hachiman | There are most certainly evil dwarves around |
| 19:25.08 | Hachiman | If not evil, then incredibly greedy and self-interested |
| 19:25.27 | Xho | thorin dickishshield |
| 19:26.07 | Xho | Since Talmyr is sub-arctic/arctic I could imagine dwarves being like mini-Santas |
| 19:26.15 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:26.31 | Hachiman | So, white-haired dwarves |
| 19:26.46 | Xho | pretty much |
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| 19:27.08 | Xho | Dalmiric is quite a guttural language so I could imagine dwarven influence on it |
| 19:27.40 | Xho | Although whether to actually do Dalmiric Dwarves is another decision |
| 19:29.13 | Xho | Hm not sure |
| 19:31.08 | Xho | No harm I guess if they're children of the Dweorg |
| 19:34.51 | Xho | The original concept of Talmyr was to be very diverse species wise |
| 19:34.59 | Xho | although instead it's sparse af |
| 19:36.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachi asked to say he's at a chinese restaurant so he's afk |
| 19:36.43 | Xho | nom |
| 19:38.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh, kk |
| 19:44.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R-Dr-qar1w ohgod I love this show |
| 19:46.40 | Xho | I need a name for these dwarves |
| 19:46.50 | Xho | and for the love of god don't say dalmiric dwarf i swear to god will kill you |
| 19:47.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | DALMIRIC SWARF |
| 19:47.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | *DWARF |
| 19:47.06 | Hachiman | Back |
| 19:47.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | FOR FUCKS-- |
| 19:47.22 | Xho | best fail 11/10 |
| 19:47.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | can't even anger xho right 8'( |
| 19:47.30 | Hachiman | Talgrim Dwarf |
| 19:47.35 | Xho | That'll do |
| 19:48.00 | Hachiman | Khargrim, Norgrim, Talgrim |
| 19:48.15 | Hachiman | Norgrim being dwarves who inhabit the eastern Polar Lands |
| 19:49.49 | Xho | righty |
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| 20:02.03 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/V96mNM6.png |
| 20:09.30 | drom | Xho: I like to think of Tuuros as a gigantic game of hockey |
| 20:09.55 | DrodoEmpire_ | ...It has a lot of toothless Canadians in it> |
| 20:09.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | *? |
| 20:10.37 | drom | And peacekeeping efforts usually sit back and wait until the players has finished fighting |
| 20:10.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur right |
| 20:11.02 | drom | And, almost anything is a fair game |
| 20:11.13 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: So I am levelling my add |
| 20:11.18 | Xho | Drom: Needs more aliens that smash you into the barrier |
| 20:11.35 | Imperios | Is it just me, or does Odyn in vrykul disguise sound like a pandaren? |
| 20:12.12 | OluapPlayer_ | He does |
| 20:12.18 | OluapPlayer_ | He has the same voice as Lorewalker Cho |
| 20:12.26 | OluapPlayer_ | But in a slightly higher pitch |
| 20:13.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman Xho Imperios Ghelae: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source#Schools I've a proposal for this page which I already edited. Thoughts? |
| 20:14.13 | drom | Xho DrodoEmpire_: https://www.reddit.com/r/sports/comments/5ttcjn/dont_pick_a_fight_with_the_goalie/ |
| 20:14.21 | Hachiman | I like it |
| 20:14.29 | Imperios | Best sigils |
| 20:14.33 | Xho | That works |
| 20:14.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | drom: olololol |
| 20:14.51 | Xho | Drom: fucking hell |
| 20:15.17 | Xho | OluapPlayer_ Hachiman Imperios: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1b/TalgrimDwarf2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213201325 Talgrim Dwarves are a go |
| 20:15.26 | Ghelae | OluapPlayer_: Looks good to me. I also approve of the sigil placeholders. |
| 20:15.34 | Hachiman | Looks neat |
| 20:15.38 | Imperios | I just realised that the light magic sigil is the Annenerbe Black Sun |
| 20:15.39 | OluapPlayer_ | best idea i've ever had |
| 20:15.47 | Imperios | Literal Nazi magic |
| 20:16.29 | Xho | That's your sigil dumbo |
| 20:16.40 | Imperios | ...What was I thinking |
| 20:17.13 | OluapPlayer_ | dingus/10 |
| 20:17.16 | Imperios | Admittedly Light magic is associated with Alar, the Ordnung and the Empire among other people |
| 20:17.22 | Imperios | So Nazi magic... works actually |
| 20:17.25 | drom | DrodoEmpire_ Xho: The gif is probably a good illustration of A picking a fight with B, C tries to peacekeep, only for B to drop a bomb on A in distance. |
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| 20:17.33 | Monet | hello |
| 20:17.37 | drom | Hello |
| 20:17.40 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 20:17.42 | OluapPlayer_ | It's also associated Lorchakim who's literally an angel |
| 20:17.45 | OluapPlayer_ | fuk ur nazis |
| 20:17.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
| 20:17.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi Monet |
| 20:18.03 | Xho | ni |
| 20:18.06 | Xho | Hi even |
| 20:18.21 | Monet | Everything is normal. |
| 20:18.27 | Xho | I should really expand on the Ministarium of Epochs |
| 20:18.33 | Xho | That's one idea I've had for a while that's never been done |
| 20:19.28 | Imperios | Hm I coudl replace the light sigil probably |
| 20:20.04 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd rather see the other 12 placeholders getting sigils at all |
| 20:20.18 | Xho | I'll work on a Chronomancy one |
| 20:20.23 | Xho | Or maybe Hachi can since Lagosi |
| 20:20.56 | Imperios | Hm lemme draw some doodles |
| 20:21.07 | Xho | draw doodles get noddles |
| 20:21.08 | Hachiman | Hachi is the only Lagosi who knows chronomancy that I've written about |
| 20:21.11 | Xho | noodles even fuck |
| 20:21.19 | Hachiman | Yes they do |
| 20:21.24 | Xho | lel |
| 20:21.31 | OluapPlayer_ | nani |
| 20:23.15 | Imperios | Okay I have an idea for a fire sigil, gimme a mimen |
| 20:23.40 | Imperios | ACTUALLY |
| 20:23.45 | Imperios | I have ideas for all elemental sigils |
| 20:24.06 | Hachiman | Say dem den |
| 20:24.09 | OluapPlayer_ | prove ur valar for ODEEN |
| 20:24.11 | Imperios | Would it make sense for the four elemental schools to have similar designs? |
| 20:24.22 | Hachiman | Kinda, I suppose |
| 20:24.26 | Xho | meh not sure |
| 20:24.28 | OluapPlayer_ | No strong feelings |
| 20:24.34 | Hachiman | Maybe a base design with a fair amount of diversity / variation |
| 20:25.44 | Imperios | You know the South Korean flag right? |
| 20:25.56 | Imperios | You know these black lines at the corners |
| 20:26.53 | Hachiman | Yeah? |
| 20:27.11 | Imperios | These represent, amongst other things, the four elements |
| 20:27.16 | Ghelae | You could incorporate real-world classical element symbols into the sigils, and they're all fairly similar (triangles). |
| 20:27.23 | drom | DrodoEmpire_ Xho: And then you'll have those who are too stupid to survive on their own. https://gfycat.com/AntiqueVioletIndigowingedparrot |
| 20:27.39 | Imperios | Ghelae: That's exactly what I am going to do, combine several real-life elemental symbols into one nice-looking sigil |
| 20:28.32 | Ghelae | checks out the South Korean flag |
| 20:29.01 | Ghelae | Ah, I think I see what you mean. |
| 20:29.31 | Ghelae | Okay, no, I do see what you mean. |
| 20:29.41 | Ghelae | Yes, that's a good plan. |
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| 20:36.26 | Hachiman | http://www.deviantart.com/art/Pixel-Eldar-Beach-663343081 I love these |
| 20:36.33 | drom | DrodoEmpire_ Xho: And squash the least liked guys in Tuuros. https://i.redditmedia.com/UtE-vRsBuwuNKhWnzlgkGFO_7fcl4YSStihnCBwbcNk.jpg?w=594&s=ce566e075de1cfc60a92f6a163930e60 |
| 20:36.51 | drom | (Chris Pronger squashing Justin Bieber) |
| 20:37.23 | Xho | heh |
| 20:38.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: http://steeljoe.deviantart.com/art/Pixel-WAAAAAAAAAgon-644482364 superior pixels |
| 20:38.55 | drom | Aaaand civilized exchanges at the UDB. https://twitter.com/mikeFAIL/status/824812856868687872/video/1 |
| 20:47.55 | dino82 | yvenne in her imperial disguise: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/96/Yvenne_ThalyssaeraImperialLarge.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213204330 |
| 20:48.33 | Hachiman | She looks done |
| 20:48.50 | Hachiman | Like, her face is just so bitchy hur |
| 20:49.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 20:50.30 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: watching a random video, I zone out for a moment and hear "I should stop offering virgins. They always want virgins, and it's hard finding that many virgins." |
| 20:50.56 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:52.48 | dino82 | @hachi: Hahaha thanks :D Like a true Imp[erial! |
| 20:55.25 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer Xho: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a1/Sigil_of_Fire.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213205458 BOOOM |
| 20:55.33 | Imperios | drom: I forgot how much I like your country |
| 20:55.38 | Xho | noice |
| 20:55.42 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 20:55.43 | Imperios | Jepardi: I forgot how much you guys drink |
| 20:55.59 | drom | Imperios: Oh? Welcome! |
| 20:56.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: I like |
| 20:57.01 | Jepardi | Imperios: Well it is our schtick |
| 20:57.11 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/71/ChronomancySigil.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213205628 Meanwhile I did the Chronomancy sigil |
| 20:57.34 | Imperios | drom: Bought a three crowns emblem for my shoulder bag |
| 20:57.39 | Imperios | du gamla du fria motherfucker |
| 20:58.20 | OluapPlayer_ | That's one Tigarlu and one Kezoreg dead |
| 20:58.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Several more to go |
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| 21:00.10 | drom | Imperios: You should get a 120x200 cm poster of our King |
| 21:00.23 | Imperios | You guys are passionate about crowns |
| 21:00.40 | Imperios | Now that I checked, the three crowns brooch has another crown on its back side |
| 21:00.58 | Imperios | Except it's different, it has an upper part |
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| 21:04.33 | Imperios | drom: Oh, I also procured a strategic supply of meatballs |
| 21:04.43 | HachiTop | Just testing this thing |
| 21:05.12 | dino82 | have to go again! |
| 21:05.14 | dino82 | Bye bye! |
| 21:05.41 | Imperios | Also some weird... thing that Finns have and I kind of like |
| 21:05.52 | DrodoEmpire_ | ? |
| 21:05.53 | OluapPlayer_ | benis |
| 21:06.26 | Xho | gg |
| 21:06.29 | Imperios | Jepardi: You know you have these small green circle-shaped pieces of dough that are sold in your country? |
| 21:06.42 | Imperios | Like made of dough and some greens |
| 21:07.17 | Jepardi | Doesn't really ring a bell |
| 21:07.24 | Jepardi | Do you happen to know their name |
| 21:07.27 | Imperios | Tiny green pancakes |
| 21:08.10 | Imperios | Jepardi: Pinattiohukainen |
| 21:08.27 | Jepardi | Ooooooh yeah those |
| 21:08.57 | Imperios | Those are awesome |
| 21:09.01 | Jepardi | They're great |
| 21:09.29 | Jepardi | The vegetable that goes into is spinach by the way |
| 21:09.36 | Imperios | Oh |
| 21:10.02 | Imperios | I remember seeing the carrot ones and some red ones but I've always found the green ones the best |
| 21:10.32 | drom | Speaking of, we have a similar variant, except it is mostly made on potatoes |
| 21:14.19 | drom | "Spenatplättar" |
| 21:14.27 | drom | That is something I need to test |
| 21:16.24 | drom | Imperios: Pictures of the balls, or it didn't happen |
| 21:17.03 | Imperios | nein |
| 21:17.16 | Imperios | They are property of the Motherland now |
| 21:17.44 | drom | Pictures, or it didn't happen |
| 21:20.15 | drom | Oh... it has been a while since I ate black pudding |
| 21:21.00 | Xho | I come back to balls and black pudding |
| 21:21.07 | Xho | Is someone coming out |
| 21:22.40 | drom | A black baby |
| 21:25.27 | NeonPanda | not a good enough discussion until haggis |
| 21:26.35 | drom | I remember OluapPlayer taking pride in having quote of Hachiman being shocked by a picture of a dish that is supposedly rice and beans |
| 21:27.43 | NeonPanda | "Some people say 'take everything that isn't nailed down.' I say take everything that isn't nailed down, then take everything that is nailed down, then take the nails." |
| 21:27.55 | Xho | egad |
| 21:28.15 | OluapPlayer_ | no rogues allowed |
| 21:28.25 | drom | Xho: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/all_you_can_eat.png |
| 21:28.33 | NeonPanda | which to be fair, back in ye olde times those nails would be fairly valuable |
| 21:28.37 | Xho | Wow |
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| 21:30.15 | Monet_2 | hi |
| 21:30.25 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 21:30.49 | drom | NeonPanda: reminds me of this little story |
| 21:32.10 | drom | "After we had defeated the goblins, our attention were attracted to foul smelling pieces of wood. Our party barbarian decided to gnaw on one piece, only for the wizard to later identify these pieces of wood as toenail clippings from a giant!" |
| 21:32.21 | NeonPanda | heh |
| 21:32.44 | NeonPanda | I seem to be the only person ever to have played an intelligent barbarian |
| 21:34.05 | drom | https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/fire.png |
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| 21:35.34 | Cyrannian | Hello |
| 21:36.03 | Xho | Evening |
| 21:38.26 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 21:38.30 | Hachiman | >INT Barbarian |
| 21:38.37 | Hachiman | But why |
| 21:40.11 | NeonPanda | never said I had high intelligence, but at least I HAD intelligence |
| 21:40.27 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman NeonPanda: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/584/521/0ae.jpg Funny thing is this is not a photoshop |
| 21:40.44 | NeonPanda | KHAOS IS OUR MASTUR |
| 21:41.14 | NeonPanda | dw tho cos Slaanesh is on hirit's way towards being thoroughly twatted |
| 21:41.15 | Xho | #VODKAFORTHEVODKAGOD |
| 21:41.49 | OluapPlayer_ | ~eat Cyrannian |
| 21:41.49 | infobot | ACTION eats Cyrannian and falls over dead |
| 21:41.55 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer_ |
| 21:41.55 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer_'s general direction |
| 21:42.08 | Imperios | NeonPanda: There's a real group that uses this logo in Russia, and it is actually quite... Chaotic I say |
| 21:42.16 | Imperios | I think I linked them a few times already |
| 21:42.20 | NeonPanda | well yeah, it's not like GW came up with that symbol |
| 21:42.39 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Youth_Union |
| 21:42.40 | Imperios | There |
| 21:42.52 | Imperios | >Its ideology also features prominently Russian nationalism and imperialism, calls for the creation of a new Eurasian empire centered on Russia. On its website the movement declared the West and in particular the United States as its main opponent and termed it as the "main evil". |
| 21:44.06 | Hachiman | Hm, strange |
| 21:44.28 | Imperios | Hm? |
| 21:44.40 | Hachiman | Sorry, I was musing on a PDF thing |
| 21:45.10 | OluapPlayer_ | ur strange |
| 21:45.58 | Imperios | Holy shit just found quotes by their founder |
| 21:46.11 | Imperios | "There are no more opponents of Putin's course and, if there are, they are mentally ill and need to be sent off for clinical examination. Putin is everywhere, Putin is everything, Putin is absolute, and Putin is indispensable" |
| 21:46.56 | OluapPlayer_ | how about u shup and make more sigils pls |
| 21:46.57 | Hachiman | Well I was just thinking; recently, a book called 'Starjammer' was released on the PFSRD site with a notice about it being released and available, and when I try to return to the page now, the content is non-existent |
| 21:47.12 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/SkOwPuy.jpg |
| 21:47.20 | OluapPlayer_ | yall got jammed |
| 21:47.49 | Imperios | Come on and Star |
| 21:47.53 | Imperios | And welcome to the Jam |
| 21:48.33 | Xho | 0/10 |
| 21:49.02 | Hachiman | It's weird because it's not a 3PP or anything - it was published and released by Paizo |
| 21:49.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Paizo clearly failed their roll and are currently dazed |
| 21:50.34 | Hachiman | If they wanted to remove the content for any reason, they failed because I bought the PDF before they took it down hur |
| 21:51.11 | NeonPanda | don't you mean starfinder? |
| 21:51.37 | Hachiman | They renamed it apparently |
| 21:51.39 | Xho | Isn't that the sci-fi universe builder thing |
| 21:51.47 | Xho | Or am I light years off |
| 21:52.39 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/UI9Q4VP.jpg |
| 21:53.57 | NeonPanda | https://paizo.com/starfinder/ well this page disagrees |
| 21:54.23 | Hachiman | http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2shob?d20pfsrdcom-Starfinder-Pathfinder-in-Space Well this thread disagrees |
| 21:56.27 | NeonPanda | then Paizo has officially gone stupid on their consistency |
| 21:56.35 | Hachiman | Looking through it now, the first of the new races is the Abiarazi - an ooze playable race |
| 21:56.36 | NeonPanda | given that they're still actually marketing preorders for Starfinder |
| 21:57.09 | Hachiman | "In their true forms, they are pulpy masses of vein-riddled violet slime, though they often take the form of pale-skinned humanoids with flat, nose less faces, dark eyes, and scowling mouths." |
| 21:57.28 | Imperios | Wait |
| 21:57.30 | Hachiman | They look kinda cool, like Greys with spider mandibles |
| 21:57.32 | Imperios | So Starfinder is like Spacejammer |
| 21:57.36 | Imperios | Spelljammer even |
| 21:57.39 | Imperios | But Pathfinder? |
| 21:57.43 | Hachiman | Yeah, essentially from what I'm reading |
| 21:58.00 | Hachiman | Although I've only just started reading |
| 21:58.21 | Hachiman | I wanna read through races and new archetypes / classes (if there are any) and whatnot and then see what the tech and equipment is like |
| 21:59.50 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: that almost makes me think of that shapeshifter dude in DS9 |
| 21:59.56 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:00.02 | Hachiman | I also sent you the PDF Panda |
| 22:01.02 | Hachiman | So far, so good with the Abiarazi barring the fact that the Voracious Hunger racial trait means they need to eat every four hours or become fatigued |
| 22:01.12 | Hachiman | Luckily, oozes can eat essentially anything so |
| 22:02.00 | OluapPlayer_ | I roll to seduce the gelatinous cube |
| 22:02.25 | NeonPanda | you sent me a .lnk |
| 22:02.54 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: I'm not sure if I disprove more of seducing a cube, or seducing a goblin |
| 22:03.10 | Hachiman | Fuck |
| 22:03.11 | OluapPlayer_ | A sapient ooze seducing another ooze isn't weird |
| 22:03.17 | Hachiman | "Abiarazi find the commingling of their gelatinous natural forms to be exceptionally intimate, and taboo unless done with a mate in a private setting. It is also considered impolite to pass through an abiarazi in its ooze form, as it is regarded as an invasion of that abiaraziâs personal space." |
| 22:03.53 | NeonPanda | I just assumed it was you seducing the ooze |
| 22:04.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Goo on goo action, exchanging digestive acids and doing generally ooze things |
| 22:04.23 | OluapPlayer_ | For goblins, all depends if you're into midgets |
| 22:04.28 | Imperios | This reminds me |
| 22:04.44 | Imperios | Hachiman: Do you know that anime about a person who sees everything as demonic and fleshy |
| 22:04.56 | Hachiman | It's not an anime, it's a graphic novel game iirc |
| 22:05.01 | Hachiman | But yeah I know of it |
| 22:05.23 | Hachiman | The only thing he doesn't see as demonic and fleshy is a young woman / loli or whatever who is actually an Eldritch horror |
| 22:06.32 | NeonPanda | that sounds like the exact opposite of how you want to see things |
| 22:07.41 | Hachiman | I love the idea of this Morphic Warrior racial archetype |
| 22:07.48 | Hachiman | "Training from birth to control their ability to take on humanoid form, abiarazi use their ability to shapechange to their advantage in combat situations. The morphic warrior capitalizes on his ability, making himself a very difficult target to hit by rapidly manipulating his form." |
| 22:08.12 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: also I found a thing |
| 22:08.18 | Hachiman | Hm? |
| 22:08.25 | NeonPanda | The PDF you're reading is not in fact Paizo's product |
| 22:08.30 | Hachiman | Oh it's not? |
| 22:08.46 | NeonPanda | it's a third party created by the d20 website you constantly go to, which happened to be called the same thing as Paizo's product |
| 22:08.53 | Hachiman | Fucking assholes |
| 22:08.54 | NeonPanda | hence the name change |
| 22:09.32 | Hachiman | Well that's dumb |
| 22:10.12 | NeonPanda | it literally just happened that two groups happened to have the same idea and call it the same thing simultaneously |
| 22:10.37 | Hachiman | Oh well, I'll read this thing anyway, it seems interesting |
| 22:13.09 | NeonPanda | supposedly the two are intwined in development, so this document will be updated as Paizo releases their own system |
| 22:13.37 | Hachiman | Right, that's good |
| 22:17.03 | NeonPanda | in a rare fit of decency, when it was discovered that both parties were working on their projects Paizo contacted d20lettershere.com to sort things out, the latter changed the name in exchange for access to Paizo's dev notes to make sure that the two systems would be compatible |
| 22:17.55 | NeonPanda | also, you can literally play an alien stinkbug riding a larger alien stinkbug |
| 22:18.10 | NeonPanda | I'm not sure what I think about this, but it's vastly inferior to space dinosaur riding other, larger space dinosaur |
| 22:19.15 | Hachiman | I'd love to have official space dinosaurs |
| 22:19.30 | OluapPlayer_ | only if the first space dinosaur is also playing a guitar |
| 22:22.14 | NeonPanda | I am of course referring to seraphon |
| 22:22.21 | NeonPanda | so closest you get to a guitar is mayan bongo drums |
| 22:22.53 | Hachiman | Lizardmen woo |
| 22:24.45 | OluapPlayer_ | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Epicus_Maximus somewhat relevant |
| 22:30.45 | NeonPanda | oh also |
| 22:30.59 | NeonPanda | Describe your character in one sentence: "404 enemy health bar not found" |
| 22:32.06 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 22:34.57 | Imperios | Waaait |
| 22:35.04 | Imperios | NeonPanda: >seraphon |
| 22:35.23 | Imperios | Don't remind me of GW turning the best race in the game into fucking angels hur |
| 22:36.56 | OluapPlayer_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source/Pyromancy blah |
| 22:36.57 | NeonPanda | you mean |
| 22:37.01 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman Xho: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fa/Sigil_of_Water.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213223647 Wobbly star |
| 22:37.02 | NeonPanda | taking one of the best races in the game |
| 22:37.05 | NeonPanda | and making it EVEN COOLER |
| 22:37.15 | Hachiman | Oh fug subpages |
| 22:39.09 | Hachiman | Nice work on the pyromancy page, excellent stuff |
| 22:39.13 | Hachiman | And nice icon, Imp |
| 22:39.17 | Hachiman | Or sigil, rather |
| 22:41.02 | Imperios | It's like five waves |
| 22:41.04 | Imperios | And a lotus inside it |
| 22:41.58 | Imperios | Hachiman: I kind of want the Diamond emblem from SU to be used for the Sigil of Earth |
| 22:42.00 | Imperios | OR actually |
| 22:42.11 | Imperios | Do we have a branch of magic centered around the manipulation of gemstones? |
| 22:42.13 | Imperios | Or rocks? |
| 22:42.15 | Hachiman | Geomancy |
| 22:42.32 | Imperios | Right so that covers it |
| 22:42.48 | Hachiman | Geomancy encompasses dirt, rocks, earth, debris, architecture, gems, etc |
| 22:43.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Gems are just expensive rocks |
| 22:43.40 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://68.media.tumblr.com/9ee29b8b81470931949dba60499e4315/tumblr_nst53k9rb81u09f8qo1_1280.jpg |
| 22:43.46 | Imperios | Right |
| 22:43.55 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:44.07 | Wormy_ | minerals / mineraloids |
| 22:44.18 | Hachiman | Man, Toph is so cool - fucking strong as well |
| 22:44.20 | OluapPlayer_ | ur a mineraloid |
| 22:44.21 | Wormy_ | Rocks are mineral assemblages |
| 22:44.46 | Hachiman | I don't think we've had any examples of exemplary mortal geomancers in the Fantasyverse |
| 22:44.57 | OluapPlayer_ | We don't |
| 22:45.04 | OluapPlayer_ | And their Colossi don't have their own page |
| 22:45.07 | OluapPlayer_ | imp fix dis travesty |
| 22:45.14 | Hachiman | A shame because geomancy is stronk |
| 22:45.19 | Hachiman | Like, literally shaping the earth |
| 22:45.21 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f0/Siege_of_Manann%C3%A1n.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213224449 - lens flare pre-pew pew |
| 22:45.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Pretty |
| 22:45.34 | Hachiman | Cyr has become Abrams |
| 22:45.43 | Hachiman | Looks nice though |
| 22:46.18 | Imperios | Cyrannian Wormy_: Remember the girl I mentioned earlier? |
| 22:46.39 | Cyrannian | Earlier today? |
| 22:46.46 | Wormy_ | Yeah? |
| 22:46.47 | Imperios | Oh wait nvm you weren't there atm |
| 22:47.12 | Imperios | Long story short met a girl a week or so ago, her surname's Hon/Khon and she's a trekkie |
| 22:47.28 | Imperios | She is apparently critical of the Abrams movies because she thinks they resemble Star Wars more than ST |
| 22:47.32 | Imperios | As fans what would you say |
| 22:47.39 | Cyrannian | Her surname is Hon slash Khon? |
| 22:47.45 | Wormy_ | She is right |
| 22:48.19 | Cyrannian | I would scream "KHOOOOOON!" |
| 22:48.47 | Cyrannian | But they're my favourite Trek films so I may be biased |
| 22:49.15 | Wormy_ | Though its important to bare in mind Star Trek copied Star Wars by making films in the first place |
| 22:49.52 | Cyrannian | Star Trek works best as a TV show IMO anyway |
| 22:50.24 | Wormy_ | The writers were like "Holy shit look how popular Star Wars is we can do this", then make the Motion Picture, which beyond its premise and intro wasn't the best |
| 22:51.23 | Imperios | Cyrannian: "Hon" is the Korean pronounciation |
| 22:51.27 | Imperios | "Khon" is the Russian pronounciation |
| 22:51.31 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.35 | Imperios | Russian does not have the "h" sound |
| 22:51.45 | Monet_2 | BUT maybe that's what Star Trek needs to do. |
| 22:52.12 | Monet_2 | There was a lot in the old shows that were inspired by current events at the time - civil rights and the Cold War in particular. |
| 22:53.28 | Monet_2 | I think what the Abramsverse might be doing is reinventing Trek (or at least updating its themes) for the modern era. |
| 22:53.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | Probably yeah\ |
| 22:54.10 | Wormy_ | Beyond was the best |
| 22:54.26 | Wormy_ | It pretty much redid the second film |
| 22:54.50 | Monet_2 | Beyond I think is the reimagining hitting its stride. |
| 22:56.14 | Monet_2 | Using The Beastie Boys and the like I think is trying to say "a new generation has come" |
| 22:56.53 | Tek0516 | First was pretty much trying to set the reboot series up from the old one, second still leaned pretty hard on the originals, third definitely started to push into its own territory. |
| 22:56.56 | DrodoEmpire_ | Perhaps... |
| 22:57.03 | Charles_Murray | Notice that the villain in Beyond was the caricature of a conservative hawk alienated from the liberal, ubranite, pluralistic utopia which sought to make him obsolete, and seeking to destroy it out or irrational emotion and bengeance |
| 22:57.08 | Charles_Murray | vengeance* |
| 22:58.41 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | A narrative about it anyway yeah |
| 22:59.19 | Charles_Murray | A caricature of the alt-right vs. an idealized and romanticized image of liberal society, yes |
| 22:59.22 | Monet_2 | Looking at genres. Westerns dominated the 40s and 60s. |
| 22:59.33 | Charles_Murray | In Beyond, Trump loses. |
| 22:59.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: I just realized. Did you get the Ordnung's affinity with shaping flesh from the Mogu? |
| 23:00.08 | Imperios | They were one of the inspirations |
| 23:00.16 | OluapPlayer_ | GOLDEMAR THE THUNDA KING |
| 23:00.24 | Wormy_ | Perhaps Trump loses on Beyond to soothe the masses of the populist victory in the realm world |
| 23:00.29 | Wormy_ | *in |
| 23:00.53 | OluapPlayer_ | >mogu enslave pandaren >Ordnung enslave Dweorg |
| 23:00.54 | Technobliterator | I still don't get what alt-right is |
| 23:00.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: ur dwarves are pandas |
| 23:01.05 | Technobliterator | half of people tell me that they're nazis |
| 23:01.11 | Technobliterator | the other half tell me they're just Milo fans |
| 23:01.14 | Technobliterator | (fuck Milo) |
| 23:01.15 | Imperios | I even have my grummles |
| 23:01.15 | Monet_2 | The thing I took away was that the villain basically didn't fit inside the Federation. Rather than rehabilitating him the Federation essentially gave hi ma tug and told him to fuck off. |
| 23:01.29 | OluapPlayer_ | MANY FAREWELLS |
| 23:02.12 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_ Hachiman: What is the colour of geomancy? |
| 23:02.17 | Imperios | And aeromancy for that matter |
| 23:02.26 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd say brown for geo, white for aero |
| 23:02.31 | OluapPlayer_ | White or light blue |
| 23:02.53 | Monet_2 | Charles-Murray_: I've seen claims of genericism but from what I understand, it was a nod that even the most perfect of societies can get outcasts. |
| 23:03.23 | Hachiman | I'd be inclined to agree with Oluap |
| 23:03.33 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : DrodoEmpire is better positioned to give a lengthy description of what they are, but if you want my two cents they're basically a movement among the right who are reacting to efforts by the establishment right, the conservative party, to marginalize them, their ideas, their discourse, their mode of communication, their tactics, etc, in order to appeal to the mainstream. > |
| 23:03.54 | Technobliterator | So, the Tea Party? |
| 23:04.12 | Charles_Murray | They call themselves the 'alt-right', or "alternate right," because they identified themselves as distinct, separate, and rebelling against the mainstream right, which was seen as corrupt, out of touch, weak, etc. |
| 23:04.34 | Wormy_ | I read this article on the alt-right today, but in the end I found it rather sneering and itself subject to polarisation https://aeon.co/essays/the-macho-violent-culture-of-italian-fascism-was-prophetic?preview=true |
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| 23:04.47 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:05.25 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : Not exactly, but the Tea Party drew on similar frustrations and energy, and some of the same guys participated in both movements |
| 23:05.32 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/94/Sigil_of_Earth.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213230523 rok |
| 23:05.32 | Technobliterator | I see |
| 23:05.32 | Wormy_ | Sneering of libertarians just because there is some overlap when it is rather more diverse |
| 23:05.42 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh that looks cool |
| 23:05.44 | Hachiman | Nice work |
| 23:05.45 | OluapPlayer_ | I like the rocky texture |
| 23:05.56 | Technobliterator | Charles_Murray, have you seen the Justice Democrats movement? |
| 23:06.17 | OluapPlayer_ | I can see a geomancer and a pyromancer working together to get a big boulder, set it on fire and throw it at the enemy |
| 23:06.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Don't need cannonballs when you got meteors |
| 23:06.28 | Charles_Murray | DrodoEmpire will tell you that now that the alt-right has won the election, the "alt-right" movement is kind of in chaos and has no common program or values to rally around, and many have ditched the label due to its being associated in the mainstream media with neo-nazis |
| 23:06.29 | Technobliterator | I have heard people compare its methods to the Tea Party, but I didn't follow politics when the Tea Party was a thing |
| 23:06.48 | Technobliterator | ah, I see |
| 23:06.54 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: So basically their victory was their downfall |
| 23:07.08 | Imperios | I seriously hope that moderate right-wingers will win, this will be the downfall of the radicals |
| 23:07.10 | Monet_2 | UKIP suffered a similar fate. |
| 23:07.10 | Imperios | The lesser evil |
| 23:07.21 | Imperios | Balance will be restored |
| 23:07.26 | Monet_2 | Once their ideal was achieved the movement lost cohesion. |
| 23:07.29 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: I imagine that both can manipulate molten earth |
| 23:07.37 | Technobliterator | UKIP's fate will be determined by the Stoke Central by-election |
| 23:07.45 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator Imperios : It's like when the women's movement won the vote, and then crumbled afterwards |
| 23:07.48 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm skeptical about pyromancy having control over magma |
| 23:07.49 | Technobliterator | As someone currently living in Stoke, it'll be a minor miracle if they don't win here |
| 23:07.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Magma is just really hot rock |
| 23:07.58 | OluapPlayer_ | And rocks are for geomancy |
| 23:08.25 | Wormy_ | Can someone explain to me who the Whigs were? |
| 23:08.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Might need control of both to have proper control and not drench yourself in magma |
| 23:08.39 | Hachiman | Eh fair |
| 23:09.23 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: Parlimantarians. |
| 23:09.37 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : If you want the left tea party, here it is - https://www.indivisibleguide.com/web |
| 23:09.45 | Wormy_ | So very oldschool liberals? |
| 23:09.58 | Technobliterator | I have not heard of this group |
| 23:10.03 | Monet_2 | They were opposed to the Stuart monarchy. |
| 23:10.15 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: They stooped existing by the 20th century |
| 23:10.30 | Technobliterator | no, I meant Charles' group |
| 23:10.34 | Wormy_ | I keep hearing of certain Tories who espose free trade as labelled "true whigs" |
| 23:10.35 | Monet_2 | my bad |
| 23:10.47 | Charles_Murray | Those guys are making themselves felt very strongly and organizing so effectively to the point that I keep hearing about them in political coverage. I've never heard of the justice democrats |
| 23:11.14 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: That's the thing, the Whigs evovled into the Liberal party in the late 19th century |
| 23:11.22 | Technobliterator | https://justicedemocrats.com/platform/ |
| 23:11.44 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, I know of them now |
| 23:11.46 | Monet_2 | And yeah they were advocates of free trade. |
| 23:11.55 | Imperios | Wormy_: For a while I thought that Whig = Labour |
| 23:11.56 | Charles_Murray | I'm just saying they're not very successful in making themselves visible |
| 23:12.18 | Imperios | I remember history books talking about the "conflicts between the Tories and the Whigs" |
| 23:12.36 | Wormy_ | So I've heard, but I know nothing of it |
| 23:12.39 | Imperios | Then as I came here you guys were talking about Tories and I jumped to the conclusion that the modern Labour party is the Whigs |
| 23:12.50 | Technobliterator | Well, they were literally just launched a few weeks ago |
| 23:12.55 | Wormy_ | Apparently there are whigs in the Tory party today |
| 23:13.18 | Monet_2 | Wormy_ Imperios: That's pretty much what the English Civil War and Glorious Revolutino were. |
| 23:13.29 | Wormy_ | right |
| 23:13.30 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator so did indivisible |
| 23:13.47 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: There might have been a partial merger between the Tories and the Whigs. |
| 23:14.01 | Technobliterator | Interesting |
| 23:14.19 | Monet_2 | Officially, Whiggism is dead. |
| 23:14.58 | Technobliterator | But the main difference from what I can tell is that Indivisible seems to mostly just be united around being anti-Trump, not any specific policy goals |
| 23:15.06 | Technobliterator | whereas Justice Democrats has a specific platform |
| 23:15.18 | Technobliterator | (that I find to be very reasonable, but that should come as no surprise to anyone here) |
| 23:15.39 | DrodoEmpire_ | Personally I mostly support Justice Democrats |
| 23:15.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | I have my disagreements, but, that's bound to happen |
| 23:16.11 | Wormy_ | Monet2: https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/823520699067355136 |
| 23:16.15 | Technobliterator | I dislike how they only push for Ranked Choice Voting when the House of Reps should probably use single transferable vote |
| 23:17.19 | Charles_Murray | That's a good comparison, yeah |
| 23:18.38 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: I'm reading that the Whigs did suffer a crisis of identity. |
| 23:19.09 | Technobliterator | honestly, I think any system using first past the post is just an undemocratic sham, but that's just me |
| 23:19.37 | Technobliterator | every party in Britain seems completely and utterly broken right now |
| 23:19.42 | Technobliterator | except the one in power |
| 23:19.58 | Monet_2 | It sort of worked when there were -only- two parties in play.. |
| 23:20.17 | Technobliterator | Two party systems should not exist |
| 23:20.23 | Monet_2 | Which was how things were before Labour got popular. |
| 23:20.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | But is it really all that democratic if only two parties exist? >.< |
| 23:20.28 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sigil_of_Air.png And here's the simplest ones |
| 23:20.30 | Imperios | one |
| 23:20.41 | Imperios | I am too tried to make it all intricate like the others |
| 23:20.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh nice |
| 23:20.49 | Technobliterator | Also, Drodo, I am so disappointed in Trudeau for backing down on basically all of his promises :| |
| 23:20.57 | Monet_2 | "A two party state is a step above a one party state" right? |
| 23:21.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | Trudeau can suck a really fat cock |
| 23:21.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | Just-- what an idiot |
| 23:21.10 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 23:21.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | >.< |
| 23:21.15 | OluapPlayer_ | That looks good anyway |
| 23:21.15 | Technobliterator | What a massive disappointment |
| 23:21.19 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: But he would enjoy it |
| 23:21.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | olol true |
| 23:21.25 | Imperios | What with being a massive faggot he is hur |
| 23:21.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
| 23:21.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | And then there's the controversy over his "canoes and paddles" comment with regards to First Nations kids |
| 23:22.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | And then a Cree MP just fucking -roasted- him with a scathingly-sarcastic letter xD |
| 23:22.28 | Technobliterator | I hate when people run as progressives to lie to voters |
| 23:22.32 | Technobliterator | then govern as neoliberals |
| 23:22.41 | Monet_2 | For once I the resident optimist am not disappointed. Never really had high hopes for Mr. It's-2015! |
| 23:22.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | The reason he got voted in was because Harper was a literal criminal |
| 23:23.04 | Technobliterator | yeah, Trudeau was a gimmicky candidate |
| 23:23.11 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: What did he do? |
| 23:23.23 | Technobliterator | good looking and charming as a speaker |
| 23:23.23 | Monet_2 | Never trust a candidate that relies on demagoguery. |
| 23:23.31 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 23:23.43 | Technobliterator | what about Trudeau relied on demagoguery ?_? |
| 23:23.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | He didn't |
| 23:23.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | People hyped him |
| 23:23.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | Voter fraud and suppression like the whole robocall thing |
| 23:23.59 | Wormy_ | Monet2: More whiggism from this Tory https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/821101152070762496 https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/816734637473091596 https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/825678436073082880 https://twitter.com/DanielJHannan/status/829793762528210944 |
| 23:24.48 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: I guess the key divider is he's calling himself an Old Whig. |
| 23:24.53 | Technobliterator | I thought his platform was great |
| 23:25.18 | Imperios | What kind of symbol could arcanomancy use? |
| 23:25.19 | Technobliterator | decriminalization of drugs, ending FPTP, deficit spending to boost the economy |
| 23:25.23 | Technobliterator | but lolnope all lies |
| 23:25.23 | Imperios | Maybe some sort of six-pointed star |
| 23:25.26 | Imperios | *eight-pointed star |
| 23:25.32 | Monet_2 | The late Whigs were leaning towards New Imperialism. Hence opposition to the Irish Home Rule Act. |
| 23:27.04 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd suggest an orb |
| 23:27.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Or an eye |
| 23:27.29 | Imperios | As the purest magic perhaps it could have the simplest sigil |
| 23:28.01 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire_: So what happened with the First Nations and Trudeau? |
| 23:28.07 | Imperios | (That's how you call native Canadians right? |
| 23:28.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah we call them First Nations |
| 23:28.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Maybe yeah |
| 23:28.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | Because, well, they were the first nations here |
| 23:28.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | Lemme grab an article |
| 23:28.35 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: The platforms are sound, but none were going to be easy. |
| 23:28.53 | Technobliterator | They were all extremely easy to do, he has a parliamentary majority |
| 23:28.55 | Technobliterator | he just lied to voters |
| 23:29.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/saganash-letter-trudeau-canoe-paddles-1.3976685 I found it more humourous than anything else, but its nonetheless just a bit insensitive >.< |
| 23:29.20 | Monet_2 | Did he outright lie or did he just have a lot of trouble getting his proposals through? |
| 23:29.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | I don't blame the MP for rebuking and ridiculing hi, |
| 23:29.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | *him |
| 23:30.20 | Technobliterator | He lied because he backed down on every single one of them and didn't even try |
| 23:30.38 | Technobliterator | "oh, you know how we said we were going to end FPTP? LOLNOPE" |
| 23:30.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | "That is why I believe a National Canoe and Paddle Program is absolutely critical to Indigenous youth. I believe this is also why the Truth and Reconciliation Commission made this national program the secret 95th Call to Action." |
| 23:30.57 | Technobliterator | "hey, you know we made it clear we were going to decriminalize drugs? HAHA NO" |
| 23:31.04 | Technobliterator | It is just frustrating |
| 23:31.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | "Once the canoe and paddle storage system is in place, I will personally paddle across the country to tell First Nations concerned with the impacts of these projects, not to worry because with these urgently needed budget investment for canoe storage depots our connection to the lands and waters is maintained." |
| 23:31.43 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire_: So, in a sense despite his views he acts paternalistic towards the natives |
| 23:31.58 | Wormy_ | Similarly I find Jeremy Corbyn a disaapointment |
| 23:32.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | I suppose. |
| 23:32.09 | Technobliterator | Corbyn is a disappointment for very different reasons |
| 23:32.13 | Technobliterator | but he is a total failure, yes |
| 23:32.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | It was a patronising gaffe that he -had- to say twice at two different conferences >.< |
| 23:32.39 | Monet_2 | How well was Trudeau able ot lead and control his party? |
| 23:38.52 | Wormy_ | "Alt Jesus" http://imgur.com/gallery/UqQHP |
| 23:39.41 | Monet_2 | I find it interesting that George Washington hoped to make the States a party-free state. |
| 23:40.57 | Wormy_ | Now here's some relebbious journalism http://imgur.com/gallery/x1nLs |
| 23:41.11 | Wormy_ | Rebellious |
| 23:41.28 | Monet_2 | It didn't work but hey, they don't call AMerican democracy "the great experiment" for nothing. |
| 23:43.01 | Wormy_ | And it is satire, what a shame |
| 23:43.55 | Monet_2 | Looks like something Jonathan Pie would say. |
| 23:45.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | As an aside this has some Daft Punk influences-- both the track and the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at3FPJaAwoY |
| 23:45.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | I -can't- be the only one who thinks of Interstella 5555 when they look at the animation style, just a little <.< |
| 23:46.27 | Monet_2 | I have no idea |
| 23:47.19 | Technobliterator | I love Interstella 5555 :o |
| 23:49.54 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer_: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b6/Nequam.png/revision/latest?cb=20170213234933 - c new-quam |
| 23:50.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh nice pose |
| 23:51.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | Never saw a spore creature in a sorta Weaver position like that |
| 23:51.39 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/bhoRnm9.jpg |
| 23:52.10 | Cyrannian | It's pretty hard to get a suitable picture, since the pose causes the creature to have a seizure when it moves |
| 23:52.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh |
| 23:52.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | also lol Wormy |
| 23:57.03 | Wormy_ | Drodo http://i.imgur.com/TNJDsA7.jpg |
| 23:57.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | I don't mind pineapple |
| 23:57.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | Joke's on you <.< |
| 23:57.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://i.imgur.com/VJOh99x.jpg |
| 23:58.02 | Wormy_ | so do I in fact |
| 23:59.13 | Wormy_ | Drodo: http://i.imgur.com/5ig5wgB.jpg |
| 23:59.33 | Hachiman | Cyrannian: Oh those look cool |
