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| 18:10.51 | Hachiman | I do wonder how infamous or notorious blood magic is on Koldenwelt given what horrifying shit it can be used for |
| 18:11.10 | Hachiman | Like, it's an extremely efficient healing magic I imagine, but at the other end of the scale |
| 18:11.24 | OluapPlayer_ | I always described it as a taboo in most societies |
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| 18:13.39 | Hachiman | Imperios: Imagine a Mengele-esque character who roams around using blood magic to perform sick experiments |
| 18:13.58 | Imperios | Like that guy in the Last Airbender |
| 18:13.59 | Imperios | ? |
| 18:14.02 | Imperios | Well, not guy, girl |
| 18:14.04 | Imperios | woman even |
| 18:14.13 | Imperios | What was her name, remember she taught Katara how to use bloodbending |
| 18:14.32 | Hachiman | Kinda, but I mean more like, Human Centipede style of 'blood magic' |
| 18:14.47 | OluapPlayer_ | ew |
| 18:15.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Human Centipede remains one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard of |
| 18:15.07 | Hachiman | Combining and disassembling bodies and putting organs and appendages where they shouldn't be kind of thing |
| 18:15.39 | Hachiman | You've not heard of 120 Days of Sodom then |
| 18:15.45 | OluapPlayer_ | I get reminded of the section where the Merkan made an effigy of Zarmagahla using elf body parts |
| 18:16.00 | Imperios | Serbian Film plz |
| 18:16.02 | Imperios | Green Elephant plz |
| 18:16.08 | Hachiman | Green Elephant? |
| 18:16.25 | Imperios | That's a classic, every Russian knows this |
| 18:16.29 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Isn't it confirmed that the Merkan are frequent blood magic users? |
| 18:16.35 | Imperios | every young Russian at least knows this movie |
| 18:16.44 | OluapPlayer_ | I've never made any mention of Merkan using blood magic |
| 18:17.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Water and poison are their favorite magics to use |
| 18:17.15 | Imperios | It's an arthouse movie made in 1990s, it is as disgusting as Sodom or Human Centipede although it manages to be hilarious at the same itme |
| 18:17.39 | Imperios | It's about two prisoners in a Russian army jail; one is generally lucid while the other grows progressively insane |
| 18:18.25 | Imperios | He starts from telling disgusting stories about sex, to defecating into a plate and giving it to his jailmate claiming it to be "sweet bread from the village" |
| 18:18.40 | Hachiman | Jesus |
| 18:18.47 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Elephant there we go, there's a recap on Wikipedia |
| 18:19.49 | OluapPlayer_ | dere aint even any green elephants involved |
| 18:19.53 | OluapPlayer_ | ive been scammed |
| 18:20.34 | Imperios | The insane prisoner sings a song about a green elephant at some point in the movie |
| 18:20.45 | OluapPlayer_ | I was gonna make a joke and say "he was just happy he got his first elekk mount" but apparently there aren't any green elekk mounts |
| 18:20.48 | OluapPlayer_ | I could swear there was one |
| 18:21.05 | Imperios | >green elekk mount |
| 18:21.08 | Imperios | Fel elekks |
| 18:21.16 | Imperios | So that's what eredar use to travel |
| 18:21.21 | OluapPlayer_ | kek |
| 18:21.38 | OluapPlayer_ | There are fel wolves, fel boars and fel dread ravens |
| 18:21.44 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm surprised there aren't any fel elekks |
| 18:23.14 | Imperios | The movie also has brilliant acting https://pp.vk.me/c411225/v411225130/59fb/wvgNqkqqv44.jpg |
| 18:23.33 | OluapPlayer_ | when the vodka hits |
| 18:24.09 | OluapPlayer_ | http://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/407740-elekk-plushie.jpg face of true evil |
| 18:24.16 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MppLwO-Sn_I&feature=youtu.be |
| 18:27.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Considering how much shout-outs there are in WoW I'm surprised there isn't a pink flying elekk mount yet |
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| 18:32.12 | Monet | evening |
| 18:32.43 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:34.46 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
| 18:37.28 | Imperios | Hi |
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| 18:38.31 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:39.01 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:39.53 | Xho | Hi |
| 18:40.28 | Hachiman | hi |
| 18:41.07 | Hachiman | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Doctrina_Venefica/Second_Term#27.2F4.2F34:_Down_with_Osvernal.21 Completed a section, shit's going down again |
| 18:45.00 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: How about some Timewalking? |
| 18:45.04 | Imperios | I still need to do that weekly |
| 18:45.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Sure, I need to do it too |
| 18:45.47 | Xho | OluapPlayer_ Hachiman: "Your reckless, careless behavior almost resulted in my exposure. But now that you have crippled the morale of the Collegium, my masters' plan can continue without hindrance." OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 18:47.56 | Hachiman | We're very near the end of Doctrina at this point |
| 18:48.06 | Hachiman | It's been a long and tiring, but admittedly fun, journey |
| 18:48.21 | Xho | It's a good story |
| 18:49.34 | OluapPlayer_ | emphasis on tiring |
| 18:49.56 | Xho | dat emphasis |
| 18:50.09 | Hachiman | Once we're done, think I'll take a year-long break from doing anything and just sit back and be lazy |
| 18:50.16 | Xho | ayyy what |
| 18:50.24 | OluapPlayer_ | nigga dont make me kill you |
| 18:50.28 | Hachiman | ;-; |
| 18:50.34 | Xho | I did have an idea of making a page for some dead fiction but I don't think it's necessary |
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| 18:50.45 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 18:50.47 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 18:51.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: get in the game |
| 18:51.28 | Imperios | one sec |
| 18:51.53 | Xho | I was thinking of making a page for an Imperial Inquistion, empire being the Orichalcum Elves |
| 18:52.02 | Xho | Although there's not much purpose to making a page |
| 18:52.14 | Hachiman | I'd recommend maybe not calling it specifically that |
| 18:52.25 | Hachiman | Considering that's what the... Imperial Inquisition is called |
| 18:52.43 | Xho | Inquisitor - aliquams Inquisitor - WHAT DID YOU SAY |
| 18:52.44 | Xho | Hm |
| 18:52.46 | Xho | Good point |
| 18:53.38 | drom | So I found a TTRPG engine book named MSpace. |
| 18:53.43 | drom | http://www.frostbytebooks.com/ |
| 18:54.01 | drom | They also cover alien creation |
| 18:54.20 | drom | Heck, it covers every basics and details you need to create an universe. |
| 18:54.45 | Hachiman | Hm seems interesting |
| 18:54.59 | Hachiman | Might see if I can pirate it kek |
| 18:54.59 | drom | See page 24 of this preview PDF (122) https://uploads.strikinglycdn.com/files/48d0e0c8-6fe5-4c0a-b816-dc2ef00fb1a8/M-SPACE%201.0%20PREVIEW.pdf |
| 18:55.33 | drom | :V |
| 18:55.48 | drom | I was also tipsed about Savage Worlds for race creation |
| 18:56.12 | drom | But I couldn't find any material, someone has however pointed out it is in the core book. |
| 18:57.21 | Technobliterator | I don't suppose there's a chance of Borealis War today is there |
| 18:57.23 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 18:57.31 | Technobliterator | after your game anyway |
| 18:58.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Probably not |
| 18:58.49 | NeonPanda | why is there talk of TRPGs? |
| 18:59.31 | drom | Apparently FrostByte Books is Swedish |
| 18:59.45 | drom | So... this is a Swedish TTRPG |
| 18:59.52 | Imperios | Xho: Why not some Roman term? |
| 18:59.54 | Imperios | Make them lictors |
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| 19:00.13 | Xho | Could work |
| 19:00.22 | Xho | I was thinking of Justiciars |
| 19:00.25 | Xho | Hi waptor |
| 19:00.27 | Monet | Hello |
| 19:00.31 | Hachiman | Praetoria |
| 19:00.44 | Cyrannian | haithar |
| 19:00.49 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 19:00.58 | Xho | Hachiman: Praetoria composed mainly of imprisoned athletes with no legs |
| 19:01.06 | Hachiman | kek |
| 19:01.09 | Xho | Even though that's actually Pretoria but you know |
| 19:01.48 | Hachiman | Praetorian just seems like a really good and imposing word for something and I dunno if you used it yet |
| 19:02.01 | Xho | Praetors |
| 19:02.02 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: fug I keep disconencting |
| 19:02.07 | NeonPanda | ALL SHALL FEAR THE GENERAL'S TENT |
| 19:02.09 | Xho | Praetors are the Shiarchon Lords |
| 19:02.21 | Hachiman | Right |
| 19:02.21 | Xho | Would have probably been used in Orichalcum Elf society as well |
| 19:02.41 | Xho | Justiciar sounds alright because it sounds like the Thalmor and the Thalmor are dicks |
| 19:02.49 | Xho | As well as the Gold!Inquisition |
| 19:03.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: boo |
| 19:04.03 | OluapPlayer_ | ~eat Cyrannian |
| 19:04.03 | infobot | ACTION slurps up all the Cyrannian available |
| 19:04.15 | Cyrannian | ~annihilate OluapPlayer_ |
| 19:04.15 | infobot | ACTION bakes a cake and gives it to OluapPlayer_ |
| 19:04.44 | Xho | Imperios_: So Justiciarii works |
| 19:04.50 | Xho | Or Iusticiarii |
| 19:05.00 | Xho | Iusticiarii there we go |
| 19:07.54 | Cyrannian | I found an old copy book I used back in 2010/2011 for future wiki plans, I'm adding the timeline I came up with to my trivia page |
| 19:08.26 | Xho | I had an idea that they were established to counteract the Order of Sol and thus they had a fairly heated altercation |
| 19:08.29 | Xho | Or altercations |
| 19:08.35 | Xho | Cyrannian: the evil tome |
| 19:09.32 | Cyrannian | d'aww found a drawing I made of a Corthrinus holding up an Asgord head |
| 19:10.02 | Xho | lel |
| 19:10.13 | Xho | thegenocideendedtoosoon.avi |
| 19:10.30 | Xho | Trying to find a decent enough font to use for the Orichalcum Elves |
| 19:10.38 | Xho | Elven, possibly runes |
| 19:11.33 | Hachiman | Runes are always a good option |
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| 19:14.19 | Dillonator407 | hello |
| 19:14.25 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:15.06 | Xho | Hi |
| 19:15.09 | Dillonator407 | what have you been up to? |
| 19:15.28 | Xho | I could use the same font I use for the Zhulultu stuff |
| 19:15.30 | Xho | Not much |
| 19:16.31 | Dillonator407 | i havent done a whole lot either |
| 19:17.08 | drom | Another day |
| 19:17.19 | drom | Another day I have not drawn anything |
| 19:17.39 | drom | The anxiety grows |
| 19:23.52 | Xho | Tempted to use cuneiform but that's what the Athsulisstai use |
| 19:24.47 | Imperios | I'll try to restart my internet |
| 19:26.31 | dino82_ | bey bye |
| 19:26.34 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Cyrannian/Trivia#Original_Timeline - Take a look, I wrote this during the first year of the GCW |
| 19:26.43 | Dillonator407 | gtg |
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| 19:31.54 | Wormydroid | Yey second exam done yey |
| 19:32.22 | Monet | applauds Wormydroid |
| 19:32.24 | Cyrannian | yey |
| 19:32.51 | Wormydroid | bows |
| 19:35.33 | Wormydroid | Also my dog who collpased in a park from a spinal stroke is coming home tomorrow yey |
| 19:35.37 | Imperios | cyrannus Alliance |
| 19:35.39 | Imperios | FUCKING MAKE THIS A REALITY |
| 19:35.49 | Imperios | *cYRANNUS aLLIANCE |
| 19:35.57 | Imperios | *Cyrannus Alliance |
| 19:36.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Cyrannian: That doesn't look too different from what we have now |
| 19:36.15 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: Okay this might have something to do with me using Tor, I'll try to restart now |
| 19:36.25 | OluapPlayer_ | yall deep web |
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| 19:37.10 | ImpyDroid | I can't help it |
| 19:37.20 | ImpyDroid | Putin keeps banning my favourite websites hur |
| 19:37.35 | Wormydroid | Ohnoo |
| 19:37.56 | ImpyDroid | For a while pastie was banned |
| 19:38.20 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer_: most of the change came with the years, with the Empire originally being quite slow in conquering folks |
| 19:39.05 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian: Huh, I never used notebooks for planning fiction |
| 19:39.09 | Wormydroid | ImpyDroid perhaps you should have hid your comments |
| 19:39.20 | ImpyDroid | I usually just drew lots and lots of Radeons |
| 19:39.26 | ImpyDroid | Mostly females |
| 19:39.57 | Cyrannian | ImpyDroid: I rarely did, most of my plans are in my head, though I do remember sketching out the Dark Times using a note app on my phone |
| 19:40.49 | ImpyDroid | I usually draw clothing, uniforms, buildings, emblems, symbols etc |
| 19:44.06 | Cyrannian | I have a couple of drawings in the notebook of Basileus, Libertus, a Rambo, an Executor-class and a DCP dreadnought |
| 19:49.07 | ImpyDroid | I remember making a pretty stupid drawing of Iovera |
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| 20:01.45 | Wormydroid | Back |
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| 20:24.28 | NeonPanda | so apparently Trump is facing legal action already |
| 20:24.55 | The_Randomness | oh? |
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| 20:25.45 | Monet | Wasn't he facing legal action before he was inaugurated? |
| 20:25.51 | NeonPanda | some ethics and law body is initiating legal action over foreign interests |
| 20:25.57 | NeonPanda | Monet: I mean specific to his presidency |
| 20:26.59 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.20 | Wormydroid | Oh? |
| 20:27.27 | Monet | That's got to be a world record. |
| 20:29.03 | NeonPanda | tl;dr now that he's President he can't have any private financial involvement with any foreign countries' governments, which his company has in bucketloads |
| 20:30.32 | Wormydroid | So they're investigating if he's still tied to them? |
| 20:30.59 | Wormydroid | Supposedly his family were taking over |
| 20:31.10 | The_Randomness | Yeah, that's what I heard too |
| 20:32.30 | Ghelae | You'd think if your family stands to benefit financially from an arrangement, that can easily still become a conflict of interest on your part too. |
| 20:33.41 | NeonPanda | The problem is that he hasn't actually disclosed any of his business dealings, so there's no way to prove he's not involved (my understanding of it) |
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| 20:36.49 | Wormydroid_ | http://www.politicususa.com/2017/01/23/cbs-confirms-reports-donald-trump-brought-cheering-props-cia-visit.html |
| 20:36.57 | NeonPanda | Alright, read through the specifics a bit more: part of the Constitution dictates that people who hold public office have to declare anything of value received from foreign governments, including government-owned businesses |
| 20:37.14 | NeonPanda | so basically, by refusing to divulge his business dealings, he's in direct violation of the constitution |
| 20:37.36 | The_Randomness | That's a nice way to start off your presidency |
| 20:37.54 | Monet | This sounds like a continuation of "Mr. Trump show us your tax returns" |
| 20:38.06 | The_Randomness | the sequel? |
| 20:38.08 | Monet | Only difference now is he doesn't have his army of corporate lawyers to protect him. |
| 20:38.14 | NeonPanda | since it is a known fact that he has dealings with government agencies and corporations |
| 20:38.37 | NeonPanda | Monet: the tax returns are part of it, as a point of note- they're necessary information to absolve him of any wrongdoing |
| 20:38.40 | Wormydroid_ | What a delicious spectacle |
| 20:40.48 | NeonPanda | so yeah, from what I understand, in order to prove himself innocent he has to present all his business dealings before Congress to prove he's not taking anything out of line |
| 20:42.13 | NeonPanda | which realistically should have been a requirement as a candidate to start with, let alone an elected president |
| 20:53.39 | Technobliterator | meh, now that he's scrapped the TPP, he's outlived his usefulness |
| 20:53.48 | Technobliterator | so I welcome an impeachmen-oh wait Pence is VP |
| 20:53.49 | Technobliterator | nvm |
| 20:54.56 | Wormydroid_ | Hopefully he will rally the liberal left to get a new backbone |
| 20:55.54 | Technobliterator | Well, the women's march protests was already one of the biggest in the country |
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| 21:17.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 21:19.38 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 21:22.28 | DrodoEmpire | I forgot how loud my speakers are <.< |
| 21:23.56 | NeonPanda | heh |
| 21:24.09 | NeonPanda | at least you weren't playing Arma 3 Escape from Atlis at the time |
| 21:24.18 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:25.04 | NeonPanda | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJBEGq18x2Q context |
| 21:25.08 | NeonPanda | you only need to watch the opening gag |
| 21:27.11 | Xho | arma 3 tho |
| 21:27.26 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
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| 21:27.54 | DrodoEmpire | I had my speakers cranked up >.< |
| 21:28.07 | Xho | I have mine on 40% so RIP to you |
| 21:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | Still not quite as loud as this track I'm on though thankfully, because fuck my ears |
| 21:29.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hey dino |
| 21:32.28 | dino82_ | hi |
| 21:32.38 | dino82_ | what track? |
| 21:33.04 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S21AIWMLbw |
| 21:33.39 | dino82_ | oh naice |
| 21:37.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I'm quite partial to it myself |
| 21:38.03 | Xho | not bad brah |
| 21:39.20 | dino82_ | :D |
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| 21:45.14 | Xho | Where's Imperios when you need him |
| 21:45.18 | Xho | Also hi |
| 21:45.39 | dino82_ | hi |
| 21:46.39 | Charles_Murray | tet |
| 21:53.08 | Monet | Xho: He's around on Steam |
| 21:53.14 | Xho | rite |
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| 22:10.17 | Dinolion92 | Hi |
| 22:11.09 | dino82_ | hi |
| 22:11.49 | Dinolion92 | Hi |
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| 22:14.21 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:14.36 | Dinolion92 | Hi |
| 22:14.42 | Wormy_ | Had a chocolate pizza, was very nice. |
| 22:14.43 | dino82_ | hi |
| 22:15.42 | Monet | Sounds like quite a rich dinner |
| 22:16.10 | Wormy_ | especially with the wine I had |
| 22:18.21 | Xho | vom |
| 22:18.42 | Monet | How very Italian. |
| 22:21.36 | Monet | Ooooh Oscar nominations tomorrow! |
| 22:22.00 | Monet | Maybe I can get my dissertation completed in time for the Academy Awards. |
| 22:22.25 | Wormy_ | https://www.facebook.com/topic/Star-Wars-The-Last-Jedi/111276025563005?source=whfrt&position=1&trqid=6378927617843794366 |
| 22:23.34 | Monet | Facebook - STERRR WERRRS |
| 22:24.49 | Wormy_ | The anarchists I know are of the bottom sort https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114281_1884450358441889_3764105357240622056_n.jpg?oh=38240aa7a047690ce8b22805e0f98303&oe=58FDF71D |
| 22:28.56 | Monet | Well the first variety certainly main and impression. |
| 22:29.13 | Monet | made an impression* |
| 22:30.46 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.23 | DrodoEmpire | Its fair to say many Antifa/anarchists/progressives took part in those riots |
| 22:31.42 | Wormy_ | That's the Alt Right media trying to create a false impression of anti-Trump people. True, those were anarchists anti-trump, but its false to conflate them with other anti-Trump people. |
| 22:32.03 | DrodoEmpire | "Alt Right Media"? |
| 22:32.07 | Monet | Leftist - Down with the 1 per-cent! *asmashes Starbucks* Other Anarchist - Dude we were going to get lattes from there after this! |
| 22:32.22 | Dinolion92 | My parents actually went to a Donald Trump protest in LA. No riots occured. |
| 22:32.40 | Monet | Other Leftist* |
| 22:32.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well, yes, I'm not saying every anti-Trump protest ended in a riot |
| 22:32.50 | Dinolion92 | Not all anti-Trump people are vigilantes. |
| 22:32.55 | DrodoEmpire | Well dug |
| 22:32.56 | DrodoEmpire | *duh |
| 22:32.59 | Wormy_ | Anyway, those Anarchists are ideologues. How can they be "for the people" when they leave a mess for poor workers to clean up after them? |
| 22:33.01 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally |
| 22:33.32 | DrodoEmpire | I think its silly to protest a vote, but so long as things don't get out of hand people can demonstrate |
| 22:33.38 | Dinolion92 | Most people are decent. Its just those loud few who do riot or do beat up protesters that get the media coverage. |
| 22:33.58 | DrodoEmpire | That's not much of a defense |
| 22:34.00 | Wormy_ | And I imagine they were somekind of anarcho-communist, since they were flying the hammer and sicle as well. Anarchism comes in many forms. |
| 22:34.13 | DrodoEmpire | Most anarchists there were ancoms yeah |
| 22:34.16 | Wormy_ | Lots of anarchists are anti-communist |
| 22:35.15 | DrodoEmpire | Because the issue is that these violent radicals have become ubiquitous and in a way accepted-- there should be *none* of this extreme violence happening because anyone who tries should be immediately discredited from the broader movement |
| 22:35.24 | Monet | I get the impression the ones the press focus on don't quite get the whole "fair democracy" thing. Because chill out guys America didn't become a dictatorship the moment Trump was sworn in. |
| 22:35.26 | DrodoEmpire | I'm certain most people don't do this |
| 22:35.36 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoQMav6alLo |
| 22:36.00 | Dinolion92 | Personally, I find it a little hypocritical if Trump people don't like anti-Trump people protesting Trump, but think its fine to have protested Obama. |
| 22:36.14 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 22:36.15 | DrodoEmpire | Except that's also silly |
| 22:36.37 | DrodoEmpire | I think both groups are idiots, and many of the same states that voted Obama also voted Trump |
| 22:36.54 | Dinolion92 | I agree. |
| 22:37.04 | Technobliterator | Only 3 did, Drodo, in the rust belt |
| 22:37.09 | Dinolion92 | I disliked Hillary, but I found Trump much, much worse. |
| 22:37.14 | Technobliterator | two-time Obama voters swung it for Trump |
| 22:37.42 | DrodoEmpire | Only three? Still, fairly significant |
| 22:37.53 | DrodoEmpire | Dinolion: exact opposite opinion |
| 22:38.13 | Technobliterator | Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, I forgot the other one |
| 22:38.14 | DrodoEmpire | I don't like Trump but Clinton was *bad news* |
| 22:38.21 | Technobliterator | He almost took Virginia |
| 22:38.35 | Monet | I think it's a bit of an oversimplification to call treason on the Rust Belt. That's some heavy partisan thinking really. |
| 22:38.40 | Technobliterator | Uh |
| 22:38.46 | Technobliterator | When did I call treason on the Rust Belt |
| 22:38.47 | Technobliterator | ?_? |
| 22:38.53 | Monet | "two-time Obama Voters" |
| 22:38.58 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: Calling Rebel Media "alt right" is dumb |
| 22:38.59 | Technobliterator | And? |
| 22:39.02 | Monet | OKay maybe not treason |
| 22:39.03 | DrodoEmpire | They're conservative, sure |
| 22:39.04 | Wormy_ | Anyway, I'm interested in what peaceful individualist anarchists do, often what we don't hear about, rather than an ideology |
| 22:39.09 | Technobliterator | I don't blame them for it |
| 22:39.24 | Technobliterator | They voted Obama twice because he offered them change, this time, they voted Trump because he promised to oppose trade deals |
| 22:39.40 | Technobliterator | and because he was the one who represented the outsider promising change this time |
| 22:39.49 | Technobliterator | that's how the election was narrowly swung to Trump |
| 22:39.51 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah nah I gotta disagree with you Wormy_, the "not all defense" is dumb because it doesn't change or minimise the fact that these people are still a significant faction in the movement |
| 22:39.57 | DrodoEmpire | *"not all" defense |
| 22:40.16 | Wormy_ | What are you talking aboyt? |
| 22:40.28 | DrodoEmpire | Thunderfoot video, thusfar |
| 22:40.30 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, I only thought Clinton was bad news because she wouldn't receive nearly the same backlash for doing awful stuff that Trump would receive |
| 22:40.39 | Technobliterator | and thus, would not be held accountable |
| 22:40.40 | Cyrannian | Maybe you guys should take it to the other channel |
| 22:41.11 | Wormy_ | Drodo: Sorry, thought you were commenting on something I said |
| 22:41.12 | Technobliterator | to the -offtopic mobile |
| 22:41.16 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 22:41.34 | Dinolion92 | Technobliterator: I actually feel that Trump received less backlash then Hillary. |
| 22:42.38 | Technobliterator | The women's march was one of the biggest protests in the country's history (and not a single arrest has happened as a result), though? |
| 22:42.39 | Technobliterator | anyway |
| 22:42.48 | Technobliterator | #sporewiki-offtopic - you can discuss it here |
| 22:43.35 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: Was that to me? :p |
| 22:43.44 | DrodoEmpire | Because yeah the women's march was very peaceful |
| 22:43.54 | Technobliterator | no, it was to the comment that pinged me |
| 22:43.56 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 22:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 22:44.43 | Dinolion92 | So, how was your guys' weekends? |
| 22:45.04 | Technobliterator | I confess to not really knowing about the riots, but |
| 22:45.13 | Technobliterator | I remember when we were hit with riots a few years ago |
| 22:45.16 | Technobliterator | it's rough |
| 22:45.27 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer_: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/89/Mornau%C3%B3Profile.png/revision/latest?cb=20170123223718 - c new Imperial/old Confederate I forgot about |
| 22:45.46 | OluapPlayer_ | Looks evil |
| 22:45.56 | Dinolion92 | I don't trust him. :) |
| 22:46.21 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Confederacy_of_Allied_Systems/Captains#Captain_Mornau.C3.B3 - Here's the information that exists about him |
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| 22:53.06 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 22:53.15 | Monet | Evening |
| 22:53.21 | Cyrannian | hai and goodnight everyone |
| 22:54.41 | dino82_ | bye bye! |
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| 23:20.46 | Xho | OluapPlayer_ Monet Jepardi: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Orichalcum_Elf_Imperium/Iusticiarii loadsa lore |
| 23:24.35 | Monet | Nice. |
| 23:24.58 | Monet | "But the Order of Sol must be reminded time and time again - we are the Imperator's. Not them." sums up their attitude nicely |
| 23:25.10 | Xho | Longinus - bunch of twats really |
| 23:26.14 | Xho | That being said the Iusticiarii never really wanted to go into open conflict with the Order of Sol |
| 23:27.56 | Xho | They may have the numbers but pumped up Imperial Guards don't really last against eight thousand heliomancers |
| 23:33.13 | Xho | Tyndarus Sparax and Longinus probably didn't get along all that well |
| 23:37.43 | Xho | I like writing about Orichalcum Elf lore |
| 23:38.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | Huh |
| 23:38.37 | Xho | did u not c the link |
| 23:38.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Just clicked |
| 23:39.05 | DrodoEmpire_ | I was doing my own thing, sorry |
| 23:40.03 | Wormy_ | Think I'm going to write about the Viking ringworld |
| 23:40.32 | Wormy_ | What was my name for it? *Cjecks* |
| 23:40.41 | Xho | Himinsfolk wasn't it |
| 23:40.45 | Xho | Or did you change it |
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| 23:42.56 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
| 23:43.05 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 23:43.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Xho: They remind me of the Praetorian Guard |
| 23:43.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | Being a royal guard/secret police |
| 23:44.43 | Xho | It was originally going to be an Inquistion |
| 23:44.52 | Xho | But we already have an Inquisition |
| 23:44.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh |
| 23:44.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah hur |
| 23:45.06 | Xho | So they're called the Iusticiarii, or Justiciars |
| 23:45.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | How many of them were there, like at their peak even? |
| 23:45.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | Rite |
| 23:45.16 | Xho | 250,000 |
| 23:45.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Holy |
| 23:45.35 | Xho | This is in an empire of roughly 35 million at its peak |
| 23:45.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | Jesus |
| 23:46.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | 250k easily sounds like the size of the Imperial military |
| 23:46.08 | Monet | Or was. |
| 23:46.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though if they' |
| 23:46.32 | Xho | The Imperial Legion (Orichalcum Elves) was about 5 million at its peak |
| 23:47.08 | Xho | Half of it was wiped out in a battle against Void Denizens under what might have been a ploy to reduce the population |
| 23:47.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | Does the 35 million figure include non-elves, slaves, etc. ? |
| 23:47.10 | Xho | Kind of worked |
| 23:47.18 | Xho | DrodoEmpire_: More or less |
| 23:47.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yikes |
| 23:47.34 | Xho | Slave populace might not be counted there |
| 23:47.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | So over 1 out of 7 inhabitants was an armed, paid member of the army? |
| 23:47.44 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 23:47.50 | Xho | It was a word filled with demonic monsters |
| 23:47.54 | Xho | world |
| 23:47.55 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right, best not because I'm not sure how such a nation would fund an army <.< |
| 23:48.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | I can see the slave population being vast, though, which'd pick up the slack |
| 23:48.16 | Xho | Well it plays into their biology really |
| 23:48.31 | Xho | Orichalcum Elves are comparatively god like so they'd rely on much less essentials to survive |
| 23:48.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | *a nation would fund such an army |
| 23:48.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hm, okay |
| 23:48.52 | Xho | As for equipment, well that would be the main expense |
| 23:49.18 | Xho | I mean the Iusticiarii effectively bankrupted the Empire in its first incarnation |
| 23:49.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | So they'd need less agricultural resources, and the farming necessary could be passed off to slaves |
| 23:49.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ah |
| 23:50.14 | Wormy_ | Xho: Thar's the name of the offworlders, yeah |
| 23:50.27 | Xho | rite |
| 23:50.54 | Wormy_ | "linnormr" is the name of the iced up ringworld |
| 23:51.03 | Wormy_ | "Lindworm" in English |
| 23:51.19 | Xho | ew |
| 23:51.51 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: I've calculated it collectively spent 1.3 quadrillion nomismata on the Iusticiarii in its first form |
| 23:52.19 | Xho | It basically fucked the entire world up |
| 23:52.24 | Wormy_ | Its a snake like serpentine deity that was said to coil three and half times around the base of old barrows |
| 23:52.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | O.o |
| 23:52.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | That's a lot of money |
| 23:53.00 | Monet | Regarding numbers. On earth even one in 10 being soldiers was considered difficult to sustain. |
| 23:53.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah |
| 23:53.23 | Monet | Even back in the Middle Ages with peasant levies, right? |
| 23:53.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
| 23:53.44 | DrodoEmpire_ | Though the nature of the Imperium and its lead species could mean that the Elves could dedicate themselves more to non-farming/economic roles |
| 23:53.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Be a caste, almost |
| 23:53.59 | Xho | That's pretty much it |
| 23:54.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | The soldiers, rulers, merchants, etc., while slaves and subject peoples do the agriculture |
| 23:54.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | And aren't counted in censuses/estimates |
| 23:54.17 | Xho | Especially since one Orichalcum Elf usually lived the life of twenty men |
| 23:54.31 | Xho | At least anyway |
| 23:55.02 | Xho | It would have a very bizarre dynamic in the Imperium |
| 23:55.15 | Xho | Massive swarthes of fleeting lives serving an immortal species |
| 23:55.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | So perhaps its more accurate to say that 1 in 7 elves are in the army, but not necessarily 1 in 7 inhabitants |
| 23:55.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | Which *would* lead to pretty instant collapse |
| 23:55.43 | Xho | Makes sense |
| 23:55.48 | Xho | Maybe |
| 23:56.03 | Xho | This was during a 1,200 year long tyranny mind you |
| 23:56.13 | Xho | Money went out of the window |
| 23:56.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | As in they were rich or they debased their currency and decided the next guy would deal with it |
| 23:56.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | *? |
| 23:56.52 | Xho | More the latter |
| 23:56.54 | Xho | It got even worse |
| 23:56.56 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh, makes sense |
| 23:57.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | Happened a lot with Chinese emperors, especially during the Mind |
| 23:57.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | *Ming |
| 23:57.57 | Xho | The Orichalcum Elves didn't really need money to some degree |
| 23:58.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | One emperor would decide paper money is a good idea, and print out so much its useless-- the next would make paper money illegal, and then that'd dispossess millions of their wealth until the new coins are minted, which would also get debased |
| 23:58.12 | Xho | It was more of a position of luxury than anything |
| 23:58.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | Then the next emperor makes the coins from the last emperor illegal, dispossessing millions of their wealth *again* until new coins are struck, so on and so on, until all the copper in China was literally mined up |
| 23:59.03 | Xho | wow |
| 23:59.17 | Xho | The Order of Sol were far more aware of useless luxury and capitalised on their immortality in trying to protect the world rather than live lazily in it |
| 23:59.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | In Fujian, the type of coins would change from year to year, arbitrarily, without any government oversight-- making people extremely wealthy and extremely poor overnight |
| 23:59.37 | Xho | That being said the armour they wore was worth a fortune if it was ever to be sold |
| 23:59.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | *type of coins that'd be accepted |
| 23:59.49 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire_: man, that's nutty |
