| 00:00.01 | Wormy__ | I know what Xho's saying. He is asking "How parochial is it" to imagine Tier 2 civs fighting with mechs, and not something less chauvinistic to the present (I don't know... warring nanoplagues, but even thast might be parochial) |
| 00:00.06 | Imperios | Remind me |
| 00:00.14 | Imperios | Is there a situation where mechs are actually useful |
| 00:00.36 | Wormy__ | Of course warfare has universal rules that might not change much, but the parochials can change |
| 00:00.55 | Wormy__ | Unfortunately regarding any higher tiers one is faced with parochials |
| 00:02.07 | Wormy__ | The tier scale tries to use energy consumption, and indeecthe ways of harnessing that energy, which is far more limited, as a universal basis |
| 00:02.31 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Bigger mechs are inefficient |
| 00:02.40 | DrodoEmpire | But they can have their uses |
| 00:03.25 | DrodoEmpire | Mechs not *too* much bigger than power-armour could be pretty good, but a tank can often pack as much, or more, firepower in a smaller package |
| 00:03.30 | Wormy__ | They can move around in complex enironments I suppose, but so can many other shapes |
| 00:03.42 | DrodoEmpire | Than a massive mech that is |
| 00:04.01 | DrodoEmpire | Plus massive mechs are big juicy targets for artillery and air support |
| 00:04.01 | Wormy__ | Some leading robotricist made a robot that uses wheels and legs to move about |
| 00:04.45 | Imperios | Wormy_: So in, say, a forest |
| 00:05.12 | NeonPanda | I think people also lost track of what I was saying: MERCENARIES |
| 00:05.21 | NeonPanda | as in, five to ten guys with mechs selling themselves out |
| 00:05.26 | DrodoEmpire | I think mechs would be more useful in hilly or mountainous terrain |
| 00:05.30 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 00:05.59 | NeonPanda | that sort of force in a backwater nation on the bitch-end of the tech scale would be well in for work |
| 00:06.52 | DrodoEmpire | Or a private interest of some sort, be it an especially wealthy person or family |
| 00:16.14 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: https://2ch.hk/c/src/202779/14445107282970.webm |
| 00:18.24 | Imperios | Wormy__: https://2ch.hk/c/src/202779/14578988847670.webm |
| 00:18.54 | Wormy__ | Imperios: That's Monkey Dust |
| 00:19.01 | Wormy__ | fab show |
| 00:19.30 | Imperios | I remember watching it as a tween, I did not even know what "pedophilia" was |
| 00:19.45 | Imperios | I assumed it to be another word for homosexuality |
| 00:20.25 | Wormy__ | Racist tomato https://youtu.be/tBKq32Fuubo?t=20s |
| 00:20.28 | Liquid_Ink | Aren't the two words in Russian nearly identical? |
| 00:21.01 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: Kind of, the common slang word for homosexuals is a corruption of "pederast" |
| 00:21.13 | Imperios | pronounced like "pidoras" |
| 00:21.34 | Imperios | I saw the common stem, put two and two together, it took me a while to understand what it actually meant |
| 00:21.55 | Wormy__ | "Oh don't be so politically correct. I find it funny" |
| 00:22.06 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/VlnCXBq.jpg |
| 00:24.47 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/c/src/202779/14787872221230.webm |
| 00:26.44 | Wormy__ | Imperios: Old, but I used to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICHNcdqxTMo |
| 00:27.00 | Imperios | Wormy__: https://2ch.hk/c/src/202779/14792002796560.webm How SporeWiki developed from 2009 to 2017 |
| 00:27.54 | Wormy__ | Its more deep the cyborg man feels whole |
| 00:28.06 | Imperios | https://2ch.hk/c/src/202779/14793037114700.webm |
| 00:28.54 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: https://2ch.hk/c/src/202779/14820635116130.webm Only best in /pol/ Industries |
| 00:29.20 | Hachiman | Imperios: I was listening to Italian gangster video game music when you sent me that webm and I thought it was part of the clip |
| 00:29.47 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 00:30.44 | Imperios | Wormy__: http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2015/1/2/ba97808875f5e2bb7d6221e3ed109ba6_89994.jpg__thumb |
| 00:31.14 | Wormy__ | olol |
| 00:31.37 | Wormy__ | ImperioS; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUWIw3SFgj8 |
| 00:31.51 | Imperios | Wait where does that put Trump |
| 00:31.57 | Imperios | What Chaos god does he represent |
| 00:32.44 | Wormy__ | Isn't there meant to be another one emerging? |
| 00:32.57 | Wormy__ | Trump could be the Warp itself |
| 00:33.35 | Imperios | Making something great again is ambition, so Tzeentch |
| 00:33.48 | Hachiman | Trump is Malal because he's anti-establishment |
| 00:34.00 | Imperios | Or that |
| 00:34.24 | Imperios | Wouldn't say he's truly anti-estabilishment however, considering his choices for the administration |
| 00:34.32 | Imperios | But I'd rather not go for that |
| 00:34.37 | Liquid_Ink | But he isn't, he just used anti-establishment to get what he wanted |
| 00:34.38 | Imperios | *go deeper into that |
| 00:34.44 | Imperios | He's a populist yes |
| 00:34.45 | Hachiman | I was making a joke |
| 00:34.47 | Liquid_Ink | *anti-establishment rhetoric |
| 00:34.58 | Wormy__ | Trump is going to be the source of a universe of pardoes and memes, well done USA |
| 00:35.05 | Wormy__ | parodies |
| 00:35.14 | Imperios | Wormy__: It's going to be a tradition AFAIK |
| 00:35.20 | Imperios | Blaasfdafa |
| 00:35.50 | Imperios | What I meant to say it is almost a tradition amongst presidents |
| 00:36.12 | Wormy__ | Indeed, but some like Bush are easier to make fun of |
| 00:36.45 | Imperios | Wormy__: Just curious, what do your relatives and friends think of Trump? |
| 00:36.58 | Imperios | Quite a few people I know are downright ecstatic he won |
| 00:37.04 | Imperios | Alyona and my mother among them |
| 00:37.14 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.24 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.51 | Imperios | Though this is understandable |
| 00:38.07 | Imperios | I mean Trump means no further conflicts against the USA |
| 00:38.26 | Imperios | This means no Russian flags over the White House, which is a bad thing |
| 00:38.32 | Hachiman | but trump and putins are dictators waaaaah |
| 00:38.41 | Imperios | But this also means no Moscow reduced to radioactive ash |
| 00:38.49 | Imperios | So, probably for better |
| 00:39.09 | Imperios | Hachiman: See, THAT is why we love him |
| 00:39.14 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:39.21 | Hachiman | Nobody seems to understand that Putin is actually the hero that Europe needs - not necessarily the one it deserves |
| 00:39.50 | DrodoEmpire | Eh |
| 00:39.59 | DrodoEmpire | Putin isn't as bad as people like to think he is |
| 00:40.01 | Imperios | Wormy__ Hachiman: All the "Trump is an evil dictator allied in Russia" propaganda backfired on us, because it makes him look like a HERO to Russians |
| 00:40.06 | DrodoEmpire | He's obviously a skilled statesman |
| 00:40.12 | DrodoEmpire | But that doesn't make him a good person |
| 00:40.17 | Imperios | Putin's much less competent than what people say, that I can say for sure |
| 00:40.21 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.23 | Imperios | His figure is massively overblown |
| 00:40.25 | Hachiman | Doesn't mean his intentions aren't good |
| 00:40.33 | Imperios | Wait are we serious here |
| 00:40.35 | Imperios | Or like joking |
| 00:40.40 | Hachiman | Partially joking |
| 00:40.54 | Hachiman | Although Turkey deserves to get its shit wrecked |
| 00:40.57 | Imperios | Well, not even sure what Putin really wants tbh |
| 00:41.08 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy__: The vacuum which, in terms of white nationalism, is fast closing thanks to the alt-right completely consuming itself |
| 00:41.48 | DrodoEmpire | It had no direction post-trump and anti-establishment people were quick to jump off the alt-right bandwagon when its true core of white nationalism and naziism was revealed |
| 00:41.50 | Wormy__ | Is it? Tell me more? Factional infighting? Or just getting bored? |
| 00:42.24 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: TBH, I think that Trump is a blow AGAINST fascism |
| 00:42.24 | DrodoEmpire | Factional infighting, and the fact that everybody who identified as "alt-right" but weren't actually alt right were quick to abandon the labe; |
| 00:42.25 | DrodoEmpire | *label |
| 00:42.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah in a lot of ways he was |
| 00:42.51 | Imperios | Now the moderate right majority is placated, and the far right cannot rile them to take power |
| 00:42.58 | DrodoEmpire | He was a huge fuck-you to the American establishment |
| 00:43.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, and that |
| 00:43.11 | DrodoEmpire | I have few concerns about Trump |
| 00:43.17 | DrodoEmpire | I have many about the Republicans |
| 00:43.22 | Imperios | So unless Trump himself turns out to be a far-right nut, which I sincerely hope he won't be |
| 00:43.25 | Imperios | We're safe |
| 00:43.27 | DrodoEmpire | He isn't |
| 00:43.32 | Imperios | Well the Americans are |
| 00:43.33 | Hachiman | Trump fucking loves America so |
| 00:43.38 | DrodoEmpire | He definitely isn't far-right |
| 00:43.47 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.54 | Imperios | Wormy__: Heh |
| 00:44.07 | Imperios | My dad's very skeptical towards any changes with Trump |
| 00:44.09 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.39 | Charles_Murray | He's a Jacksonian |
| 00:44.53 | Wormy__ | Generally my family see no change happening in the US or the UK, and blame it on the neoliberal monoliths. |
| 00:44.59 | Imperios | He says he remembers an actor being elected President and is certain no President will be able to severely improve or damage the US after that |
| 00:45.03 | Wormy__ | And lack of choice to vote |
| 00:45.11 | DrodoEmpire | Charles_Murray: Who, Trump? |
| 00:45.15 | Charles_Murray | Aye |
| 00:45.18 | Wormy__ | Given that they all have similar agenda |
| 00:45.48 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno if his dedication to the King of Pop is quite *that* strong, Charles. |
| 00:48.31 | Imperios | As for Putin |
| 00:48.38 | Imperios | I do not even know what he wants |
| 00:48.42 | Imperios | Presumably just to stay in power |
| 00:49.11 | Imperios | He has a few militant advisors like Dugin, so presumably his more aggressive actions were on their behalf |
| 00:49.28 | Liquid_Ink | That would be my theory; in it for the intoxication of power |
| 00:49.33 | Charles_Murray | There's four major philosophies/approaches regarding American foreign policy, Trump is a Jacksonian; in short, he's probably going to be the kind of leader who is skeptical of international institutions, international law, human rights, meh, those don't matter; so long as the United States is left alone and respected, he doesn't think the United States should really be involved |
| 00:49.35 | Charles_Murray | But |
| 00:49.38 | Charles_Murray | There is a but |
| 00:50.36 | Charles_Murray | If you ever lay a hand on even so much as a hair of the US or its allies, he will retaliate with such overwhelming and disproportionate force that â the thinking goes â nobody will ever think to do that again |
| 00:51.50 | Charles_Murray | International law, borders, casualties, second or third order consequences be damned, usually |
| 00:53.24 | Wormy__ | I hear he wants to increase the US Military's budget |
| 00:53.29 | Charles_Murray | So from Russia's perspective, there's the danger of Russia taking him as a softie and then discovering to their horror just how much shit they've got themselves into when they stick their toe a tiny bit over the line |
| 00:53.55 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: And then WW3 |
| 00:54.05 | Wormy__ | I'm afraid if that happens, we're literal toast |
| 00:54.08 | Imperios | Wormy__: Where will he get the money for all this if he wanted to cut taxes tho |
| 00:54.24 | Wormy__ | Imperios: Mexico, duh! |
| 00:54.40 | Imperios | Wormy__: Anschluss yiy |
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| 00:58.23 | Hachiman | Like I said |
| 00:58.28 | Hachiman | Trump fucking loves America |
| 00:59.40 | Hachiman | It'd be amazing if he turns out to |
| 00:59.43 | Hachiman | Fuck |
| 00:59.52 | Hachiman | Eh I forgot what I was typing so screw it |
| 01:01.19 | Charles_Murray | Though he doesn't understand why the US shouldn't use nuclear weapons |
| 01:01.22 | Imperios | I think most American presidents do |
| 01:01.29 | Charles_Murray | If the US has them, why doesn't it use them? |
| 01:01.56 | Charles_Murray | His aides and advisors were trying to get him to understand why, but he just wouldn't get it apparently xD |
| 01:02.12 | Wormy__ | He's like Bush in this cartoon then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUWIw3SFgj8 |
| 01:02.38 | NeonPanda | we *are* talking about the guy who didn't realise he'd have to staff the white house, after all |
| 01:04.00 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/PQijujo.jpg old but gold |
| 01:04.22 | NeonPanda | if only |
| 01:04.55 | NeonPanda | I love how mental institution intake went up because of people claiming they were sent from the future to kill trump |
| 01:07.13 | Wormy__ | Really? |
| 01:07.29 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/x3zhVZr.png |
| 01:07.37 | NeonPanda | at least in parts of the US yeah |
| 01:07.56 | Imperios | NeonPanda: I bet they were screaming "Death to the False Emperor" |
| 01:08.28 | Hachiman | What I love is the irony of liberals and left wing nuts supporting an establishment-based war criminal based solely on her sex / gender while bitching and whining that people are idiots for supporting Trump, who showed support for anti-establishment, and declaring that they did so because he's a man and a criminal tyrant |
| 01:08.54 | Hachiman | Really, nobody came out looking good after the election |
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| 01:09.02 | NeonPanda_ | the meeps are clearly watching, my IRC crashed |
| 01:09.36 | Wormy__ | DrodoEmpire, Imperios, Charles_Murray https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g39ezxNJhTQ |
| 01:10.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: I'm inclined to agree yeah |
| 01:10.24 | DrodoEmpire | Though, I doubt Trump's motives |
| 01:10.26 | NeonPanda_ | what did Hachi say? |
| 01:10.44 | Hachiman | "What I love is the irony of liberals and left wing nuts supporting an establishment-based war criminal based solely on her sex / gender while bitching and whining that people are idiots for supporting Trump, who showed support for anti-establishment, and declaring that they did so because he's a man and a criminal tyrant" |
| 01:10.48 | Hachiman | "Really, nobody came out looking good after the election" |
| 01:11.44 | NeonPanda_ | nobody comes out of an election looking good, because most election campaigns these days are more about making the other person look bad than making yourself look good |
| 01:11.49 | Hachiman | You know, liberals - the same group who constantly fight for expanding progressive movements - trying to invalidate the rest of the country's vote to suit their wants and push their agenda and attempting to silence the Trump and third party supporters through ignorance and violence |
| 01:12.10 | Wormy__ | No, they do not represent real liberals |
| 01:12.15 | Imperios | Well, yeah |
| 01:12.16 | DrodoEmpire | I dislike the use of "liberal |
| 01:12.30 | DrodoEmpire | *"liberal" there given that liberal has a clean-cut definition |
| 01:12.34 | DrodoEmpire | progressives maybe |
| 01:12.35 | Imperios | Do you see anyone here who really whined about Trump losing |
| 01:12.42 | Imperios | winning even |
| 01:12.51 | Imperios | We have more than a few liberals here |
| 01:13.06 | NeonPanda_ | what's funny is our "Liberal" party are the conservatives :P |
| 01:13.07 | Wormy__ | Politics today has beciome a lot more muddled and complicated, true lots of liberals put their left wing tendencies first but that's another thing |
| 01:13.14 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:13.26 | Imperios | NeonPanda_: Get on our level, our "Liberal Democratic Party" is far-right |
| 01:13.32 | DrodoEmpire | NeonPanda: And the Canadian "Liberal" party has gone progressive |
| 01:13.49 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: TRAITORS |
| 01:14.01 | Imperios | They're Trudeau's gang right? |
| 01:14.06 | DrodoEmpire | I'm a "real" liberal, I guess? And I find myself agreeing with the Conservatives more than any other Canadian party |
| 01:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
| 01:14.12 | DrodoEmpire | They roll with hair-boy |
| 01:14.28 | Hachiman | I don't consider myself far right, and apparently I'm not according to that political alignment test, but I disagree a lot with lefties and liberals and whatnot |
| 01:14.38 | Imperios | I'd say you're centrist |
| 01:14.41 | Imperios | Dunno |
| 01:14.48 | DrodoEmpire | If it weren't for the fact that Stephen Harper is a literal criminal I might've thrown my lot in with the conservatives |
| 01:14.56 | NeonPanda_ | the only party I agree with in my state is the Australian Sex Party. I'm still not sure how I feel about that |
| 01:14.59 | DrodoEmpire | Plus the conservatives in general have their own issue |
| 01:15.02 | DrodoEmpire | *issues |
| 01:15.23 | Imperios | Hachiman: Your burning hatred towards the monarchy makes it hard for you to be right hur |
| 01:15.27 | Imperios | right as in right-wing |
| 01:15.55 | DrodoEmpire | Possibly-controversial opinion-- I like both the monarchy and the Commonwealth |
| 01:15.57 | Hachiman | Monarchy is fucking reptiles; I want human leaders for once |
| 01:15.57 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 01:15.58 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
| 01:16.12 | DrodoEmpire | I, for one, welcome our reptilian overlords |
| 01:16.21 | NeonPanda_ | Australia doesn't really care, which is why we're still part of it |
| 01:16.22 | Hachiman | Fucking money-stealing Jew lizards; "tourism", they say she's good for |
| 01:16.40 | NeonPanda_ | it's generally common consensus that we'd be a republic the moment we had a good reason to be, we just don't have one right now |
| 01:16.41 | Wormy__ | Maybe Hachi is in the Libertarian right quadrant |
| 01:16.52 | DrodoEmpire | (((Queen Elizabeth II))) |
| 01:17.37 | DrodoEmpire | I recall telling him that I had the idea in my mind that he was a moderately-authoritarian centrist, but apparently its not true |
| 01:17.49 | Imperios | Wormy__: But Libertarians are snake people |
| 01:17.53 | Imperios | And Hachiman is against reptilians |
| 01:17.59 | DrodoEmpire | no step on snek |
| 01:18.09 | Wormy__ | I'm kinda neutral to the monarchy, my lefty side hates being her subject and have a general dislike for posh elites, but at the same time its a tradition that defines us and yes it doies reduce our taxes and raise tourism |
| 01:18.11 | Hachiman | fucking S T O M P |
| 01:18.14 | NeonPanda_ | Australia- y no step on snek? we always step on snek |
| 01:18.17 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire is a snake I think |
| 01:18.33 | Hachiman | Wormy__ So you're a nationalist |
| 01:18.38 | Wormy__ | yeah |
| 01:18.49 | DrodoEmpire | I don't mind being a royal subject myself, even as a liberal |
| 01:18.57 | Imperios | To be honest |
| 01:19.01 | DrodoEmpire | I think there's such a thing as an enlightened monarch |
| 01:19.02 | Imperios | It'd be cool to have the Romanovs back |
| 01:19.05 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:19.08 | Imperios | As figureheads at least |
| 01:19.15 | Imperios | They're still around after all |
| 01:19.19 | Hachiman | Does this mean that you don't like how much Middle Eastern and other foreign culture is becoming ingrained into modern English society |
| 01:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/051/601/579.png ayy lmao |
| 01:19.35 | Hachiman | Because they're "against tradition" |
| 01:19.36 | Imperios | But seriously imagine the old Soviet generation's reaction to this |
| 01:19.43 | The_Randomness | ... |
| 01:19.43 | Wormy__ | Wait, not that kind of nationalist |
| 01:19.56 | Hachiman | Right, was just curious hur |
| 01:20.19 | Imperios | The most right-wing thing about me is my belief in nationalism; I generally believe strongly in a nation-state |
| 01:20.25 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:20.31 | DrodoEmpire | I'm a big proponent of the nation state |
| 01:20.35 | Wormy__ | I'm very tolerant to imigration of all peoples, but I believe they must be intergrated properly into British culture and through tolerant criticism both cultures can learn from each other |
| 01:20.40 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:20.51 | DrodoEmpire | I'm against mass-immigration as well |
| 01:20.52 | NeonPanda_ | I'm quite authoritarian at heart, just there's fuck all for good authority in australia |
| 01:20.57 | Wormy__ | Nothing wrong with more British people in the world imo |
| 01:20.59 | Hachiman | Yeah mass immigration is ech |
| 01:21.05 | DrodoEmpire | Because mass immigration is never, ever good |
| 01:21.09 | Imperios | Yep |
| 01:21.12 | Imperios | We call can agree on that |
| 01:21.14 | Hachiman | Look at Germany and Sweden |
| 01:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:21.19 | Imperios | Hachiman: SWEDEN YES |
| 01:21.56 | Wormy__ | OhI don't mind controlling borders |
| 01:21.57 | Imperios | Anyway, I do not see why people of one culture, language and ancestry should be in different countries, or why people of different cultural and linguistic heritage should stay in one country |
| 01:22.31 | NeonPanda_ | Australia's a nation of immigrants, the major thing for me is integration- I'm really not pleased that there are ethnic suburbs popping up here and there |
| 01:22.31 | Wormy__ | However I don't like the argument "not enough housing", when I live in the Midlands surrounded by brownfield sites |
| 01:22.45 | Imperios | I'd prefer if Russia gave up some of the ethnic republics but I do not want it right away for a few reasons |
| 01:22.49 | DrodoEmpire | Really for me its the idea of being ruled by somebody who speaks your language and shares your values-- someone who has a vested interest at a cultural level to look out for your interests |
| 01:23.02 | Imperios | First, Chechnya's genocide of non-Chechens in the 1990s |
| 01:23.17 | DrodoEmpire | Foreign elites tend to be pretty bad for the subjects |
| 01:23.19 | Imperios | We bombed them into oblivion for that, sure, but if we let them free |
| 01:23.22 | Imperios | And independent |
| 01:23.29 | Imperios | What kind of message would we send to the rest of the country? |
| 01:23.42 | Imperios | "Killing Slavs is key to independence?" |
| 01:23.59 | Hachiman | prepares for a shitstorm |
| 01:24.02 | Hachiman | It worked for the vikings |
| 01:24.08 | Imperios | Eh? |
| 01:24.23 | Wormy__ | Hachiman: In terms of traditions I am not a relativist. I think British traditions like Parliamentry democracy, and its contribution to the scientific method are great traditions, and one capable of self-improvement. |
| 01:24.32 | Hachiman | Last time I made a Viking-Slav comment, you went apeshit hur |
| 01:24.34 | Wormy__ | Hachiman: Another tradition is anti-slavery |
| 01:24.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: You're referring to the summoning of the Varangians right? |
| 01:25.10 | Imperios | The Varangians were summoned by the East Slavs of their own volition; there was no violence involved in the initial formation of the Rus State |
| 01:25.30 | Imperios | Later on, Rurik's descendants had to put down rebellions, but by that point they were fully assimilated |
| 01:25.33 | Hachiman | I know, I know |
| 01:25.48 | Wormy__ | Liking traditions neither stops me from being a lefty, and being liberal doesn't stop me from being patriotic |
| 01:25.49 | Hachiman | I know, I know |
| 01:25.51 | Imperios | It is not you mentioning these events that annoys me, it is your ignorance in the matter |
| 01:26.09 | Imperios | Early Russian history is very much complex |
| 01:26.22 | Charles_Murray | Back |
| 01:26.23 | Imperios | Sorry if I am rude |
| 01:26.33 | Imperios | NOW |
| 01:26.36 | Hachiman | It's cool, I was just making a joke hur |
| 01:26.48 | Imperios | Yeah but this joke has no basis in history :P |
| 01:26.52 | Imperios | Anyway, so |
| 01:26.58 | Imperios | First, there's the whole genocide issue |
| 01:27.04 | Charles_Murray | Uh oh |
| 01:27.05 | Imperios | Second, it would set up a precedent |
| 01:27.10 | Charles_Murray | What argument is happening without me |
| 01:27.22 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: About giving independence to Russian ethnic republics |
| 01:27.24 | NeonPanda_ | no argument |
| 01:27.32 | NeonPanda_ | just a discussion with shenanigans involved |
| 01:27.37 | Charles_Murray | Why would you ever do that |
| 01:27.39 | Imperios | Well it is just me explaining my position, noone is arguing it |
| 01:27.47 | Imperios | I explain why it would be bad |
| 01:27.55 | Wormy__ | Hachi asked me if I was a nationalist after saying I liked traditions |
| 01:28.09 | Imperios | Second, giving one republic independence could easily cascade into a parade of sovereignties, which would deeply destabilise the country |
| 01:28.17 | Imperios | That process should be slow and gradual |
| 01:28.19 | Hachiman | I can't stand a majority of British nationalists |
| 01:28.25 | Hachiman | They're fucking obnoxious cunts |
| 01:28.50 | NeonPanda_ | now now, you can't judge someone over what kind of cunt they fuck :P |
| 01:28.50 | Imperios | And third, they have fucking resources |
| 01:29.07 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 01:29.23 | Hachiman | NeonPanda: I'm British so whether I can or not, I will, because I'm an obnoxious cunt :p |
| 01:29.26 | Imperios | But if I could |
| 01:29.33 | NeonPanda_ | so what you're saying is |
| 01:29.38 | Wormy__ | I don't like nationalists either |
| 01:29.42 | Imperios | TBH I'd give the Caucasus away, let them sort out their own jiffies |
| 01:29.44 | NeonPanda_ | nationalists are fucking you? does Hachi have a boyfriend finally? |
| 01:30.02 | Hachiman | Less boyfriend and more early stages of Stockholm syndrome |
| 01:30.08 | Wormy__ | Imperios: Early Russian history is kind of like post-Roman Britain until the Norman invasion |
| 01:30.18 | NeonPanda_ | close enough |
| 01:30.21 | Imperios | Wormy__: Yeah actually it's a very close approximation |
| 01:30.26 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 01:31.18 | Imperios | Perhaps if there was some sort of global economical sphere over Eurasia which would make such transitions easier, then Russian republics leaving could be a thing |
| 01:31.31 | NeonPanda_ | Australian history is mostly different ethnic groups rocking up and staying for various reasons |
| 01:31.48 | Imperios | This way Russia wouldn't be crippled so hard as its economical ties and ultimate dominance would persist |
| 01:32.06 | Charles_Murray | Honestly, there's a lot to say about economic, ethnic, political, and normal geography in the post-soviet space, I'm actually reading a book about it right now |
| 01:32.13 | Charles_Murray | But it would be a lengthy conversation |
| 01:32.14 | Imperios | Like say if we had our own EU, have Chechnya and Tatarstan and the like within this economic union |
| 01:32.38 | Imperios | Well actually there is the Customs Union but it's too weak yet |
| 01:33.07 | Charles_Murray | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian_Economic_Union |
| 01:33.12 | Imperios | ^ That yes |
| 01:33.18 | Imperios | Make it stronger |
| 01:33.26 | Imperios | Then we can talk about independence |
| 01:33.35 | Imperios | Then again, there's that problem |
| 01:33.52 | Imperios | Half of Russian ethnic republics are surrounded from all corners by Slavic regions |
| 01:34.16 | Imperios | ...So hell maybe maintaining a multicultural federation is the right thing |
| 01:35.04 | Wormy__ | eaeugh hur |
| 01:35.34 | Charles_Murray | That's kind of how those borders ââ as well as the borders of the other member republics of the Soviet Union ââ were designed, with overlapping ethnic borders which make secession by any single ethnic group neigh impossible |
| 01:35.34 | Wormy__ | alright that was immature |
| 01:35.52 | Imperios | Wormy_ Charles_Murray: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Mordovia_in_Russia.svg Like how are you supposed to secede when your republic is located like THAT |
| 01:36.05 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 01:36.15 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: That's the whole reason they were autonomous republics, rather than union republics |
| 01:36.22 | Wormy__ | Mordovia wants to secede? |
| 01:36.40 | Charles_Murray | Playing a MP hearts of iron game as the PRC |
| 01:36.42 | Charles_Murray | Let's do this |
| 01:36.44 | Imperios | No they don't, the only republics where there were real independence movements were Chechnya and Tatarstan |
| 01:36.53 | Charles_Murray | OPM to relevance |
| 01:37.04 | Imperios | Chechnya is on the south so it could in theory secede, and did for a few years |
| 01:37.06 | Imperios | But then Putin |
| 01:37.19 | Imperios | Boom boom bye Dudaev hello Kadyrov |
| 01:37.33 | Imperios | Now it is one with the Motherland again |
| 01:37.51 | Imperios | Wormy__: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Tatarstan_in_Russia.svg Tatarstan... well... |
| 01:39.01 | Imperios | THAT is why they quickly decided to simply call for more autonomy rather than full on independence |
| 01:39.23 | Imperios | Now Europe however |
| 01:39.38 | Imperios | I kind of feel that the UK and Spain will soon fragment, and maybe that's the right thing |
| 01:39.48 | Imperios | It won't hurt anyone now |
| 01:41.50 | Wormy__ | But but but the Union Flag will have to change |
| 01:42.01 | Wormy__ | I think that was my core opposition to the referendum |
| 01:42.07 | Imperios | Yeah that would suck |
| 01:42.12 | Imperios | Badass flag |
| 01:42.14 | Wormy__ | forget my other hardly argued points |
| 01:42.57 | Imperios | England would be left with a silly cross, and Scotland with a silly saltire |
| 01:43.01 | Imperios | Save for Wales |
| 01:43.04 | Wormy__ | boooring |
| 01:43.10 | Imperios | Wales would benefit from independence |
| 01:43.17 | Imperios | At least in terms of vexillology |
| 01:43.27 | Imperios | As its badass flag would be turned into a national one |
| 01:43.37 | Wormy__ | It wouldn't survive on its own. For that matter, nor will England |
| 01:44.20 | Wormy__ | Scotland might, given that it still has some major industries in fish and oil, and would probably join the Nordi Council |
| 01:44.23 | Wormy__ | Nordic |
| 01:44.40 | Imperios | Scotland - WE ARE TOTALLY VIKINGS PEOPLE DON'T MIND US |
| 01:45.04 | Wormy__ | The Nords said Scotland could join if it left the UK lol |
| 01:45.13 | Imperios | In terms of symbols though |
| 01:45.32 | Imperios | You would get neat coats of arms |
| 01:45.43 | Wormy__ | Eventually London will split and then England will fragment into pre-Norman states of Celts, Saxons and Danelaw |
| 01:45.45 | Imperios | Rather than the complex one you have right now |
| 01:46.10 | Hachiman | Welsh can fuck off though |
| 01:46.24 | Imperios | So I suppose they could step in as important national symbols with the flags becoming more bland |
| 01:46.35 | Wormy__ | yeah |
| 01:46.40 | Hachiman | I'm glad we've almost completely erased the entirety of the culture to the point Welsh is a second language to them |
| 01:46.48 | Hachiman | Now we just need to ensure that they stop fucking their sheep |
| 01:46.53 | Wormy__ | stfu Saxon barbarian |
| 01:47.13 | Wormy__ | Welsh are the true Britons |
| 01:47.38 | Wormy__ | has not an ounce of Welsh in him |
| 01:47.52 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Royal_Arms_of_England_%281198-1340%29.svg You'd have these nice lions |
| 01:48.04 | Wormy__ | Indeed |
| 01:48.17 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Royal_Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Kingdom_of_Scotland.svg And Scotland this cute red lion |
| 01:48.33 | Wormy__ | But history repeats and it 2000 years we will rule an empire again across the galaxy |
| 01:48.43 | Hachiman | Why does Wales get a fucking dragon |
| 01:49.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: Because dragons like the taste of farm animals |
| 01:49.34 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 01:49.49 | Hachiman | Lock their women in towers so they can go out and do things with the sheep |
| 01:49.52 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Royal_Badge_of_Wales_%282008%29.svg And the Welsh have this coat of arms apparently |
| 01:49.52 | Wormy__ | Because Arthur and Wales came from a time when dragons existed an assisted Britons againsat the Saxon menace |
| 01:50.14 | Imperios | Either that or the same as their flag but shield-shaped |
| 01:53.19 | Imperios | Browsed a bit for coats of arms and found this |
| 01:53.22 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Woodcock_(officer_of_arms) that fucking name |
| 01:54.10 | Wormy__ | lol |
| 01:54.13 | Hachiman | hur |
| 01:54.29 | Hachiman | Mfw I first discovered that "Gaylord" was a legitimate name |
| 01:56.26 | Wormy__ | Well, there are also people named "Dedd-Legg" and "pigfart" |
| 01:56.35 | Wormy__ | *Pegg-Legg |
| 01:58.37 | DrodoEmpire | "Dick Swett" was the name of a well-known American politician |
| 01:59.34 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.43 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:59.57 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
| 01:59.59 | DrodoEmpire | AHAHAHAHA |
| 02:00.16 | DrodoEmpire | I finally put *all* the pieces together |
| 02:01.49 | Wormy__ | There's also a joke about two Irishmen: gerald fitzpatrick and patrick fitzgerald, but can't remember how it goes |
| 02:02.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh hur |
| 02:12.07 | Hachiman | "Fat is not an insult, it's a fact. If you're fat, you're fat, no need to sugarcoat it. You've had enough sugercoated things." |
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| 02:14.42 | Wormy__ | hur |
| 02:14.47 | Wormy__ | sad day http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38561877 |
| 02:20.55 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 02:21.52 | Wormy__ | Don't like Shrekeli but why can a woman insult him and he gets suspension for insulting her back? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38553424 |
| 02:22.44 | DrodoEmpire | Twitter has a nasty record of political bias |
| 02:23.02 | The_Randomness | > Following this, Mr Shkreli posted a tweet calling Ms Duca a "cold you know what" and published some doctored images of himself and Ms Duca together. |
| 02:23.09 | The_Randomness | more than just an insult |
| 02:23.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hardly |
| 02:23.50 | DrodoEmpire | Its crude, big deal |
| 02:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | If Twitter's gonna ban some people for doing crude things then I have a long list of left leaning people and celebrities I want banned |
| 02:25.32 | Wormy__ | I think if people are going around making aggravating comments to others they should get whats coming |
| 02:26.43 | DrodoEmpire | I think what they should get coming is more vitriol and rejection, because ideally this is a public forum and being an asshole sin |
| 02:26.47 | DrodoEmpire | t*isn't illegal |
| 02:27.29 | DrodoEmpire | Still, Twitter's a private company and is within their rights *to* ban people for any reason, it doesn't make it right |
| 02:27.45 | DrodoEmpire | But I should stop pontificating now >>< |
| 02:27.51 | Wormy__ | but it does show their bias |
| 02:27.58 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | tbh I like Shkreli, because the media got the story about him 100% wrong and I admire people who embrace the whole "bad guy" thing |
| 02:28.48 | DrodoEmpire | Its fucking amazing, really |
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| 02:30.52 | Wormy__ | hi |
| 02:31.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Monet |
| 02:31.19 | Monet | hi |
| 02:31.34 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 02:31.46 | Wormy__ | So what was wrong about the story of him rising drug prices? |
| 02:32.02 | Wormy__ | If that's the same thing. I don't know much else about him |
| 02:32.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, that was the story |
| 02:33.09 | DrodoEmpire | He explains himself a lot in interviews, but basically it was partially a move to screw over shitty insurance companies, to make an almost never-used drug profitable so more research could be put into it, and, furthermore, he went out of his way to provide for free to those who had no insurance or whose insurance refused to cover it |
| 02:33.26 | DrodoEmpire | *provide it for free |
| 02:34.02 | Wormy__ | The latter part is good, but the rest could be cover stories |
| 02:34.18 | DrodoEmpire | Well... Look into it yourself :p |
| 02:34.23 | DrodoEmpire | If you doubt me so much |
| 02:34.51 | Wormy__ | I'm just saying, you have to go by his word |
| 02:35.06 | DrodoEmpire | Sure, but given the media coverage was an utter joke |
| 02:35.11 | DrodoEmpire | I'm willing to hear him out |
| 02:37.29 | Wormy__ | fair enough, I'll just suspend judgement on the issue |
| 02:38.08 | Wormy__ | until he does something great or majorly fucks up |
| 02:41.06 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
| 02:41.09 | DrodoEmpire | I'ma brb |
| 02:41.26 | DrodoAway | Gonna probably freeze my cock off walking to the store |
| 02:41.35 | Wormy__ | Its very late for me and I've got to revise goodnight |
| 03:20.03 | DrodoEmpire | Good news |
| 03:20.08 | DrodoEmpire | Didn't freeze my cock off |
| 03:20.10 | DrodoEmpire | Bad news |
| 03:20.16 | DrodoEmpire | My arse aches again |
| 03:20.17 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
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| 04:02.32 | ImpyDroid | It is 7 AM |
| 04:02.40 | ImpyDroid | I did not sleep all night |
| 04:02.43 | ImpyDroid | Kudos for me |
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| 08:58.03 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
| 09:05.22 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 09:06.50 | Groxkiller98 | You good? |
| 09:07.04 | Liquid_Ink | Yes. |
| 09:07.07 | Liquid_Ink | You good? |
| 09:08.41 | Groxkiller98 | I'm decent. |
| 09:09.00 | Liquid_Ink | Is there a reason this conversation is so reserved? |
| 09:09.19 | Groxkiller98 | It is? |
| 09:10.09 | Liquid_Ink | It just seems that way |
| 09:10.38 | Liquid_Ink | You said "You good?" instead of "How are you?" and that seemed to imply some sort of concern |
| 09:11.52 | Groxkiller98 | Ah. No. XD |
| 09:12.04 | Groxkiller98 | That's just the British way of things. :P |
| 09:12.17 | Liquid_Ink | Tell me, Groxkiller, are there high amounts of Grox deaths in your fiction? |
| 09:12.35 | Groxkiller98 | I've never had the Grox in my fiction. >_> |
| 09:12.42 | Liquid_Ink | FRAUD |
| 09:12.48 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 09:12.56 | Groxkiller98 | It's my in-game name. :P |
| 09:12.59 | Liquid_Ink | #Groxkillergate2017 |
| 09:14.13 | Groxkiller98 | ??? |
| 09:15.18 | Liquid_Ink | Since the Watergate scandal, "-gate" has been used to name scandals. |
| 09:15.24 | Groxkiller98 | Oh. |
| 09:15.59 | Groxkiller98 | Yeah, but my last Grox thing got retconned immediately. |
| 09:16.04 | Groxkiller98 | Because it was stupid. |
| 09:16.10 | Groxkiller98 | Really stupid. |
| 09:16.26 | Liquid_Ink | I don't remember it |
| 09:16.39 | Groxkiller98 | Exactly! |
| 09:16.47 | Groxkiller98 | It was awful. |
| 09:24.11 | Groxkiller98 | So... |
| 09:24.19 | Groxkiller98 | Thinking on Nu'Vex's history. |
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| 09:32.48 | Groxkiller98 | Hey/ |
| 09:32.56 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:33.17 | Groxkiller98 | You good? |
| 09:34.05 | Ghelae | I'm okay. How are you? |
| 09:35.25 | Groxkiller98 | I'm decent. |
| 09:37.54 | Groxkiller98 | What's the year in the fictionverse again? |
| 09:38.28 | Groxkiller98 | 2800ish? |
| 09:40.45 | Ghelae | The latest dates are in the 2810s, maybe 2820. |
| 09:41.00 | Groxkiller98 | Alright. |
| 09:41.54 | Groxkiller98 | So... If someone were 640, they'd be born about 2760? |
| 09:42.01 | Groxkiller98 | Or am I mathing wrong? |
| 09:42.11 | Groxkiller98 | 2780? |
| 09:42.25 | Groxkiller98 | Wait, that's way off. XD |
| 09:42.31 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah :P |
| 09:42.35 | Groxkiller98 | 2280ish? |
| 09:42.41 | Groxkiller98 | I forgot the 600. >_> |
| 09:43.00 | Groxkiller98 | 2180? God damn, I can't math! |
| 09:43.15 | Groxkiller98 | 2180.] |
| 09:43.24 | Groxkiller98 | The calculator says 2180... |
| 09:43.44 | Ghelae | ~2180+640 |
| 09:43.44 | infobot | 2820 |
| 09:44.38 | Groxkiller98 | So, yes? |
| 09:45.09 | Ghelae | Yes. |
| 09:45.34 | Groxkiller98 | Right. XD |
| 09:49.33 | Groxkiller98 | I'm going to have so many character pages to write. >_> |
| 09:49.44 | Groxkiller98 | I'm working on Nu'Vex's history. |
| 09:49.58 | Groxkiller98 | Already mentioned his father by name, and a Red Devil commando. |
| 09:50.17 | Groxkiller98 | Furthermore, I need to make a page for the current Grand Chancellor, and his replacement. |
| 09:54.39 | Groxkiller98 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Groxkiller98/Drafts/Characters/Nu%27Vex#History |
| 09:59.59 | Groxkiller98 | Thoughts? |
| 10:02.46 | Ghelae | I think you mean "peak" instead of "peak", and I'd put an "and" between "schooling" and "pushed". Otherwise fine. |
| 10:05.08 | Groxkiller98 | Okay. |
| 10:05.20 | Groxkiller98 | But... "peak" instead of "peak"? |
| 10:05.36 | Groxkiller98 | You said the same thing twice! |
| 10:06.58 | Ghelae | "peak" instead of "pique"* |
| 10:07.05 | Groxkiller98 | Ah. |
| 10:07.23 | Ghelae | Sorry; didn't typo-check. |
| 10:07.38 | Groxkiller98 | No, that's actually the correct use of it. |
| 10:08.00 | Groxkiller98 | You pique interest, and climb a peak. :P |
| 10:08.56 | Groxkiller98 | Oh, now I see. |
| 10:09.24 | Groxkiller98 | Nevermind, I'm stupid. XD |
| 10:09.39 | Groxkiller98 | Updated. |
| 10:09.42 | Ghelae | Hey, you figured it out eventually. |
| 10:10.37 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 10:11.38 | Groxkiller98 | I think I ought to redesign the Mithadorn battleship tonight. |
| 10:11.46 | Groxkiller98 | And their support ship. |
| 10:11.55 | Groxkiller98 | Question is if I will get round to it. XD |
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| 10:49.26 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
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| 11:43.04 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
| 11:43.37 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:44.28 | Liquid_Ink | I need to tell you guys about #Groxkillergate2017 |
| 11:44.48 | Liquid_Ink | Groxkiller here not only doesn't kill Grox in his fiction, but his fiction lacks Grox altogether! |
| 11:45.06 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 11:45.16 | Groxkiller98 | I do the job in-game. :p |
| 11:45.29 | Groxkiller98 | Well, I did. Then I got a new PC. |
| 11:45.39 | Groxkiller98 | Now I have to start my war all over. >_> |
| 11:49.12 | Groxkiller98 | That actually sucks. They were down to 100 systems left. |
| 11:49.18 | Groxkiller98 | I was actually bigger than them. |
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| 12:05.38 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 12:05.44 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:06.21 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
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| 12:07.39 | NeonPanda | having played more Titanfall, I think I might work on that idea I had earlier |
| 12:08.23 | Liquid_Ink | You totally should. |
| 12:10.07 | Groxkiller98 | I'd ask, but I need to go. Later. |
| 12:10.09 | NeonPanda | and just because I can, the leader is going to be Australian |
| 12:10.56 | NeonPanda | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/titanfall/images/1/11/Blisk.png/revision/latest?cb=20140208104237 actually because of this guy, A.K.A the leader of the enemy mercenary team in the campaign, and one of the cooler announcer voices for multiplayer |
| 12:11.37 | NeonPanda | he's technically south african but he sounds like an Australian half the time |
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| 12:17.38 | NeonPanda | the technology to make something similar to a Titan is of course already present in the universe |
| 12:18.27 | Liquid_Ink | Of course |
| 12:19.22 | NeonPanda | similar to the Apex Predators, the initial front of money would probably come from a corporate military contract |
| 12:19.46 | NeonPanda | from there it's just a matter of picking up choice mercenary work to cover maintenance and gear updates |
| 12:21.50 | NeonPanda | I was about to say I'd intend for them to be primarily active around human territories, but then I remembered that for the most part humanity is on the high end of the tech scale |
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| 14:17.45 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:23.45 | Ghelae | Hi |
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| 14:50.59 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
| 14:57.19 | Groxkiller98 | Does anyone know where I can get a gif of the Grox communications menu? |
| 14:58.18 | Hachiman | Tried capturing one yourself? |
| 14:59.14 | Groxkiller98 | I can't right now. >_> |
| 14:59.29 | Groxkiller98 | I'm in college for one, and have a new computer with no saves for two. |
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| 15:12.26 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 15:16.11 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
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| 15:41.38 | Groxkiller98 | I had an idea for another character. >_> |
| 15:42.22 | Groxkiller98 | A Teyan military commander that's about fanatical about his/her mechanical implants as the Grox are. |
| 15:44.02 | Hachiman | So, an Adeptus Mechanicus |
| 15:44.03 | Groxkiller98 | Also, Planet Busters are 'illegal' in the fictionverse, correct? |
| 15:44.08 | Groxkiller98 | And yes. |
| 15:44.41 | Hachiman | Planet Busters aren't really illegal; just very questionable and ethically and morally controversial |
| 15:44.52 | Groxkiller98 | Right. |
| 15:45.09 | Groxkiller98 | Would people turn on an ally for using them? >_> |
| 15:45.28 | Hachiman | They'd possibly want to disassociate with them |
| 15:45.30 | Groxkiller98 | Might be planning something stupid. It's self-contained though. |
| 15:45.54 | Hachiman | The thing about planet-destroying weaponry is that there is little actual practical use for them beyond terror |
| 15:46.04 | Groxkiller98 | Well, yeah. |
| 15:46.23 | Groxkiller98 | But it's effective at getting rid of a really annoying enemy that won't otherwise budge. |
| 15:46.38 | Groxkiller98 | Like a Grox infestation pod. |
| 15:49.26 | Groxkiller98 | However, I did have an idea that involves an invasion of the Milky Way, Andromeda, and Mirus, their owners permitting. |
| 15:49.50 | Hachiman | Hm? |
| 15:50.29 | Groxkiller98 | Basically, the Teyan were lost in deep space after a certain cataclysmic event. And they'd be stumbling into the Gigaquadrant looking for a new home. |
| 15:50.46 | Groxkiller98 | And the Teyan way of staking their claim is forcibly taking other people's stuff. |
| 15:51.12 | Hachiman | But why |
| 15:51.14 | Groxkiller98 | So... They'd quickly be starting a war on three fronts - Which is what would lead to their downfall and defeat. |
| 15:51.38 | Hachiman | If they're recovering from a cataclysmic event and do not have defined, solid territory, they're bound to lose because they're in no position to support a war of that scale |
| 15:51.49 | Groxkiller98 | That's kinda the point. |
| 15:52.06 | Hachiman | But why would they resort to that as their first option |
| 15:52.38 | Groxkiller98 | It's Teyan psychology on a basic level. |
| 15:52.49 | Groxkiller98 | "I want your thing, and I'll fight you for it." |
| 15:53.23 | Groxkiller98 | They were once a hyperpower in a galaxy that is now none-existent. But they still have what resources they could bring with them. |
| 15:54.05 | Hachiman | There's psychology and then there's actually being intelligent and weighing one's options - if they are predisposed to be a race of warriors or fighters and whatnot, then should they not have the intelligence and wisdom to know what fights to pick |
| 15:54.05 | Groxkiller98 | And they'd intend to shove everyone away from their new home, not realizing they're picking a fight they can't win. |
| 15:55.02 | Groxkiller98 | The Teyan have intelligence, and a fair bit of it. But this would be an ex-hyperpower not realizing just how much they've lost, nor knowing they're attacking the wrong people. |
| 15:56.07 | Groxkiller98 | The Teyan Imperium of Andromeda have been humbled after an ass-kicking or two. These would be the late-runners that haven't yet. |
| 15:56.49 | Hachiman | Right |
| 15:57.45 | Groxkiller98 | So, they come in, plant their flag, decide to push their neighbors away (not knowing who they're attacking), and it comes to bite them in the ass. |
| 15:59.11 | Groxkiller98 | Does that make more sense? |
| 15:59.34 | Imperios | Surely not everyone in their nation has the same belligerent attitude? |
| 15:59.54 | Imperios | Perhaps the active militarism is caused by a few crazier higher-ups |
| 16:00.12 | Imperios | Rather than the race as a whole, although the public may be riled into patriotism by the way |
| 16:00.14 | Imperios | war |
| 16:00.17 | Groxkiller98 | Of course not. It's the military-leadership making the shots. |
| 16:01.02 | Groxkiller98 | Teyan culture is a war-path in itself of sorts. The military lead, and throw enough propaganda around to make the public agree. |
| 16:01.05 | Imperios | If so there could be a more sensible, pacifist faction, which could open up some internal struggles within the governments |
| 16:01.08 | Imperios | government even |
| 16:02.06 | Hachiman | Reminds me of Homeworld and the Taiidan rebels |
| 16:02.08 | Groxkiller98 | Hm. Maybe as time goes on. With the Teyan on the back-foot, perhaps a less aggressive party attempts to take power. |
| 16:03.43 | Hachiman | I still think that the military leadership must be full of crazy people if they think this plan is ever going to work |
| 16:04.03 | Groxkiller98 | I'd say they're more overcome by hubris. |
| 16:04.22 | Groxkiller98 | Not having lost a fight for so long. Now they've found a new home, they don't expect it to resist. |
| 16:04.39 | Groxkiller98 | But it does, and it's tougher than they estimated. |
| 16:05.18 | Hachiman | "Let's wage three large-scale wars on the offensive without solid bases of operations; without solidified, fortified territory; splitting our limited resources between three INTERGALACTIC fronts, etc" |
| 16:05.40 | Hachiman | "While we're in a state of recovery, at that" |
| 16:05.54 | Groxkiller98 | "Eh, we did it before, what can go wrong? Oh... That..." |
| 16:06.32 | Hachiman | I'm just gonna say; there's being undone by hubris, and then there's outright fucking yourself in the ass from the get-go |
| 16:08.03 | Hachiman | If your intent is to make the leadership of the invading Teyan seem like idiots who should not be in charge of military operations, then you've kinda succeeded :p |
| 16:08.33 | Groxkiller98 | Well, they were once a hyperpower trying to carve out a few repetitively small chunks of the galaxy. They just chose the chunks where people are living. |
| 16:08.55 | Groxkiller98 | They do need to resettle about half a galaxy of Teyan refugees. |
| 16:10.19 | Hachiman | Half a galaxy what |
| 16:11.16 | Groxkiller98 | Well, they did lose their home galaxy, of which they were dominant. |
| 16:11.20 | Groxkiller98 | VERY dominant. |
| 16:11.39 | Hachiman | How recently |
| 16:11.53 | Groxkiller98 | The Annihilation. |
| 16:12.10 | Hachiman | And they only got around to resettling NOW?! |
| 16:13.01 | Groxkiller98 | Well, they were lost in deep space for Spode-knows-how-long. |
| 16:13.19 | Groxkiller98 | Transportation from beyond the Gigaquadrant is hard. |
| 16:13.24 | Groxkiller98 | I would assume. |
| 16:13.31 | Groxkiller98 | Especially without a wormhole. |
| 16:14.33 | Groxkiller98 | Though I must go for now. I will be back soon. |
| 16:14.52 | Groxkiller98 | Later! I will think while I'm gone. |
| 16:14.52 | Hachiman | Right |
| 16:15.08 | Hachiman | Imperios: This fucking guy |
| 16:15.16 | Imperios | :P |
| 16:15.39 | Hachiman | Seriously |
| 16:15.54 | Hachiman | He's alright but goddamn he makes his fiction act like idiots |
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| 16:44.27 | Groxkiller98 | I'm back! |
| 16:52.50 | Ghelae | It's even entirely possible that civilisations whose territories were destroyed in the Annihilation have been held back outside of time in order to let the Gigaquadrant's natives recover, and only re-released into the universe recently. |
| 16:53.13 | Ghelae | Either way, there are plenty of reason for the Teyan to only just be trying to settle. |
| 16:54.49 | Ghelae | It is worth pointing out that the basic plot - superpower attacks lots of different people and falls because of their hubris - is that of the Dominatus war. It's different in that the Dominatus were a rising superpower of sadists in contrast to the Teyan as a fallen hyperpower of militarists, but it does risk looking similar. |
| 16:58.44 | Groxkiller98 | I don't think I've read that conflict. |
| 16:58.53 | Ghelae | It would help if it was finished. |
| 16:59.09 | Ghelae | But GD12 keeps going to get breakfast and not coming back for months. |
| 16:59.13 | Ghelae | ~seen GD12 |
| 16:59.16 | infobot | gd12 <7a02ea1e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.2.234.30> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 16d 18h 5m 21s ago, saying: 'Hello!'. |
| 16:59.38 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus |
| 16:59.39 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 17:02.08 | Groxkiller98 | I see... |
| 17:05.37 | Imperios | Groxkiller98: BTW about what you asked yesterday |
| 17:06.11 | Imperios | Russia is much more homophobic but it has an LGBT community nonetheless; I have several LGBT friends and there are pride parades sometimes |
| 17:06.36 | Imperios | The last one her ewas in 2014 so now they latch on liberal marches now |
| 17:06.53 | Groxkiller98 | kk |
| 17:10.55 | Groxkiller98 | Awh, fuck. Just making my first Spore save on the new PC. BAD-DATA has struck already. |
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| 17:13.49 | Groxkiller98 | Hey, Tek. |
| 17:35.51 | Hachiman | Imperios: https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/15977537_10153974342817100_7036068991876094258_n.png?oh=ed73c83bade86e98d434b71af893a70f&oe=58D7559B |
| 17:36.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: I am going to start my own Normandy with Quasar and asari |
| 17:36.44 | Hachiman | hur |
| 17:42.35 | Groxkiller98 | T_T Fuck sake. Before I've even started my new Spore game, and it's already broken. |
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| 17:46.56 | Xho | Wow dead IRC |
| 17:47.21 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
| 17:47.41 | Groxkiller98 | My new Spore game broke before I even made a save. :( |
| 17:48.25 | Xho | Ouch |
| 17:48.29 | Xho | In what way |
| 17:49.32 | Groxkiller98 | BAD_DATA |
| 17:49.49 | Groxkiller98 | Hadn't even gotten around to installing DI. |
| 17:51.39 | Xho | BAD_DATA with random naming? |
| 17:56.32 | Groxkiller98 | Everything. |
| 17:56.49 | Groxkiller98 | Before I even made the planet. |
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| 18:01.35 | drom | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/qYpCMnM.gifv |
| 18:01.58 | Xho | floof major and floof minor |
| 18:02.12 | Groxkiller98 | So fluffeh! |
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| 18:06.49 | Xho | Hi |
| 18:07.04 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 18:07.14 | Groxkiller98 | Hai. |
| 18:08.10 | Tybusen | iie |
| 18:09.52 | Xho | batsu |
| 18:11.10 | Tybusen | anta baka da ze |
| 18:12.00 | drom | Xho: http://imgur.com/gallery/HXhDjCk |
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| 18:12.54 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I've finished Highmountain |
| 18:12.56 | OluapPlayer | Best zone so far |
| 18:13.04 | Imperios | Navarogg best |
| 18:13.06 | Imperios | Hi Tybusen |
| 18:13.23 | OluapPlayer | >fel tauren >uncorrupted black dragon who isn't Wrathion |
| 18:13.34 | Tybusen | privyet |
| 18:14.02 | Groxkiller98 | Warcraft! |
| 18:14.48 | Xho | wat is dis anime thing u whippersnappers r on about |
| 18:15.11 | OluapPlayer | >game made in the US >anime |
| 18:15.33 | Xho | top 10 animes in gaming |
| 18:15.39 | OluapPlayer | cancer |
| 18:16.51 | OluapPlayer | Also patch 7.1.5 is live |
| 18:21.53 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: https://s3.amazonaws.com/AZComics/comic492.png |
| 18:25.21 | Groxkiller98 | The patch is live? In EU, or UK? |
| 18:25.29 | Groxkiller98 | EU or US* |
| 18:29.53 | OluapPlayer | I assume everywhere |
| 18:31.20 | Groxkiller98 | I don't have it. |
| 18:31.28 | Groxkiller98 | US gets things a day before the EU. |
| 18:31.39 | Groxkiller98 | Usually. |
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| 18:36.59 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/juInCT1.jpg |
| 18:43.40 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/G1Sx681.jpg |
| 18:44.06 | Imperios | drom: Ah my eyes |
| 18:44.34 | drom | xaxaxaxa |
| 18:44.53 | Imperios | Also wait, Tatars are whiter than Germans and the French |
| 18:44.59 | Imperios | >TFW when literal Mongol Turks are whiter than you |
| 18:45.16 | drom | Well. It is not mouth tatar |
| 18:45.22 | drom | (tartar, even) |
| 18:45.58 | Imperios | Also the ultimate white race is ebin :DDDDDDD |
| 18:46.30 | Imperios | And that Portuguese girl is gorgeous |
| 18:46.50 | drom | I like how Finns is a satisfying mix of Northren and Asian |
| 18:49.00 | Imperios | drom: http://i.imgur.com/DdUuA4l.jpg Ohgod this |
| 18:49.41 | drom | Obviously Russian propaganda |
| 18:50.03 | Imperios | Tek0516 Tybusen: http://i.imgur.com/3NHv9CR.png |
| 18:50.18 | Imperios | THE MAPLE LEAF FOREVER |
| 18:51.32 | drom | That is rather polite |
| 18:51.35 | Tybusen | smoke weed eh-veryday |
| 18:54.21 | drom | *checks delivery progress of an Amazon package* |
| 18:55.06 | drom | > new expected date moved from 9th to 23th. |
| 18:55.31 | drom | And of course it is fucking USPS who is delivering my package |
| 18:55.33 | drom | REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEee |
| 19:13.27 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Also I like how they updated the basilisk model and animations but kept the weird floppy death animation |
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| 19:15.22 | Charles_Murray | Tybusen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8TfVTZFQSM |
| 19:16.39 | Tybusen | ayy |
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| 19:26.52 | Monet | Hi |
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| 19:29.21 | Monet | Good day |
| 19:29.24 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
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| 19:30.11 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:37.16 | Charles_Murray | Monet ZF101 New trait http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
| 19:40.05 | Monet | another? |
| 19:40.46 | Charles_Murray | Replaced "Perfect Storm" |
| 19:42.25 | ZF101 | Looks interesting. I've never actually thought to deal with economic issues and all with fiction. That's a really interesting angle. |
| 19:43.14 | Charles_Murray | Cool |
| 19:43.15 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFrench_Recession_of_2816-2819 |
| 19:44.14 | Charles_Murray | Economics is a pretty big part of mine, with the entire French Empire consisting a complex and interdependent system of economies, production, resource acquisition, capital flows, trade, etc |
| 19:44.36 | Charles_Murray | And France also being a free trader, it imports and exports a lot |
| 19:45.10 | Monet | I think what often ends wars before the losing nation gets completely levelled is the expense of war |
| 19:46.17 | Monet | Two sides of roughly equal strength even the winning side might see the war as becoming costly |
| 19:47.03 | Charles_Murray | Well, cost is a big factor in war planning, though it's not as simple as "this war is costly let's stop" |
| 19:47.32 | Monet | Good point |
| 19:47.43 | Charles_Murray | At different moments in history, states and rulers have found ways to produce the funds they need to wage a war one way or another |
| 19:48.12 | Charles_Murray | Whether by taking it at gunpoint or by producing it (seemingly, it works out) out of nowhere |
| 19:48.30 | Monet | Sometimes complete destruction of the opposing state is seen as overkill |
| 19:48.36 | Charles_Murray | Basically by borrowing it from itself |
| 19:49.03 | Charles_Murray | That was the rationale for ending the first world war as soon as possible |
| 19:49.15 | Charles_Murray | Though by the second world war, they realized how much of a mistake that had been |
| 19:49.35 | Charles_Murray | And so the Allies agreed not to stop until they had fully occupied the axis states |
| 19:51.45 | Charles_Murray | And sometimes, how much the war already cost in both lives and treasure makes it impossible to justify ending it with no gain |
| 19:51.51 | Charles_Murray | no substantial gain |
| 19:52.04 | drom | Imperios Xho: https://is.4chan.org/tg/1484000417571.gif |
| 19:52.08 | drom | High elf |
| 19:52.14 | drom | *wink *wink |
| 19:53.13 | Xho | Septimus - wow im high as shit |
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| 19:54.41 | Charles_Murray | dino82_ New perk That depends on the time period and the state, but that's often been true; at the same time, there are ways to finance the |
| 19:54.45 | Charles_Murray | Whoops |
| 19:54.54 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
| 19:54.56 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:55.05 | dino82_ | Hi Charles! |
| 19:55.10 | ZF101 | Hello Dino |
| 19:56.58 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:58.54 | dino82_ | @charleS: Nice at glance! somethign specific you want to point out on it? |
| 19:59.29 | Charles_Murray | "Republican Victory in the 2818 Election" is the newest update I've made to it |
| 19:59.36 | Charles_Murray | Replacing "Perfect Storm" |
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| 20:03.21 | dino82_ | I see naice, some things were removed I think |
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| 20:13.09 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 20:13.20 | Hachiman | Who the fuck though it'd be a good idea to turn coconut stuff into food |
| 20:14.12 | ZF101 | Wut |
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| 20:14.27 | Hachiman | Coconut is awful |
| 20:14.44 | Hachiman | Also, ZF101, I see you prowling the JoJo wiki |
| 20:14.57 | ZF101 | Agreed. I hate it on my candy bars. Ech. |
| 20:15.21 | dino82_ | hi |
| 20:16.58 | Imperios | Hachiman: Looked at the wiki list on his user page? |
| 20:17.02 | Monet | I like coconut |
| 20:17.58 | Hachiman | Imperios: No, I see him writing comments on talk sections hur |
| 20:18.02 | Imperios | Ah |
| 20:18.39 | Hachiman | Monet: Must be a dragon because no human should ever be able to bring themselves to like coconut |
| 20:18.45 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Zillafire101 Talked about this thing |
| 20:18.54 | Imperios | I remember coconuts tasting good |
| 20:19.01 | Imperios | But I do not remember when I actually ate one |
| 20:20.46 | Xho | Coconuts are alright |
| 20:21.00 | Monet | We all have our own tastes |
| 20:21.03 | Hachiman | Coconut flavour should just stay on coconuts |
| 20:21.16 | Hachiman | Don't add coconut flavour to anything that shouldn't and doesn't contain coconut hur |
| 20:21.36 | ZF101 | Why are we talking about my user page Impy? |
| 20:22.02 | Monet | then don't buy food made with coconut in it |
| 20:23.22 | Imperios | ZF101: It shows which wikis you browse |
| 20:23.56 | Monet | I myself was historically uneasy about eating mushroom but I've eaten something with truffle and I thought it was okay |
| 20:26.41 | ZF101 | Ok. |
| 20:26.53 | ZF101 | Godzilla and Jojo. Not very exciting. |
| 20:28.29 | Hachiman | Both are pretty exciting |
| 20:28.39 | Hachiman | cus I'm a JoJofag hur |
| 20:29.27 | ZF101 | Toho is actually working on the live action Part 4 movie. |
| 20:29.32 | ZF101 | Crossover when. |
| 20:30.09 | Hachiman | I want to be hyped for the Part 4 movie |
| 20:30.12 | Hachiman | But I can't be because I dunno how live action JoJo would work |
| 20:31.00 | ZF101 | Yeah, after seeing past live action anime movies, I have no strong opinion one way or the other. |
| 20:49.44 | ZF101 | Bye bye all. |
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| 21:07.03 | Monet | Hi |
| 21:07.20 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 21:07.42 | Monet | Hachiman: in some respects it's good you are not feeling hype |
| 21:08.27 | Hachiman | The only good live-action anime adaption I've seen is probably those Death Note movies |
| 21:08.35 | Hachiman | In fact, I actually like those better hur |
| 21:09.38 | Monet | quite the compliment |
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| 21:30.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
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| 21:41.15 | dino82_ | hi |
| 21:42.17 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire |
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| 21:42.49 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/3NHv9CR.png The Maple Leaf forever |
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| 21:45.51 | DrodoEmpire | Whatever it takes to get past customs <.< |
| 21:45.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 21:46.19 | Zillafire101 | I was about to pride myself on the fact my connection didn't give out once today. -_- |
| 21:47.21 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsldtV4jWA0 So Crash Course just made a video about discrimination |
| 21:48.02 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxsNnUAyfd4 That's what I predict the comments to this video will soon become |
| 21:48.04 | DrodoEmpire | I don't really watch CC anymore, so I don't really care that much |
| 21:49.38 | Imperios | Neither do I but damn the theme they're handling |
| 21:49.42 | Imperios | Going to be a blast |
| 21:50.20 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not very interested in a political discussion right now |
| 21:50.35 | DrodoEmpire | I'll be very forthcoming with you about that >.< |
| 21:50.52 | Imperios | No, I am not going to participate in that |
| 21:51.11 | Imperios | I am interested in what the comments section is going to become, I'll be observing it |
| 21:52.18 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Don't like them because of their views, or just got bored? |
| 21:52.34 | DrodoEmpire | Because they got political, yes |
| 21:52.46 | DrodoEmpire | And partly also because I didn |
| 21:52.55 | DrodoEmpire | *didn't really need their content anymore |
| 21:53.03 | DrodoEmpire | Because I like to do a lot of my own reading |
| 21:54.16 | Imperios | I mostly watched the history videos |
| 22:01.35 | Zillafire101 | Bye bye all. Off to play some TF2. |
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| 22:17.29 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:18.41 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, The_Randomness, Technobliterator, Tek0516 Had fun coding the Collatz 3n + 1 conjecture http://pastie.org/private/ehk2drfwplrzch3xowzflg |
| 22:19.42 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Today I spent eight hours debugging. >.> |
| 22:19.46 | Wormy_ | Had a real problem with it printing ODD and EVEN wrong half way through, even though the numbers were right, then realised I had to handle that seperately as it was flipping the EVEN and ODD. I thought it was very strange |
| 22:20.54 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: fug that |
| 22:21.03 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Is there a technical term for a Spartan's helmet? |
| 22:21.25 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 22:21.43 | DrodoEmpire | The helmet you probably think of when you think "hoplite helmet" is known as the Corinthian |
| 22:22.04 | Hachiman | Awesome |
| 22:22.29 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: I thought I knew what was wrong, just not how to fix it. Then I tested something and it got worse. |
| 22:22.59 | DrodoEmpire | In later times, other types such as the open-faced Thracian and Chalcidians became more popular |
| 22:23.18 | DrodoEmpire | The Corinthian was very protective, but also very heavy, expensive, and didn't allow you to see all that well |
| 22:24.05 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: Times like that I try to step out of it and go back, so long as I have a copy or save to go back on |
| 22:24.47 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Well it's for work and a code other people already made, so not much choice. :P |
| 22:24.54 | DrodoEmpire | Sometimes hoplites also wore the "Pilos", which was basically a bronze cone they wore on their head that made them look a wee slow <.< |
| 22:25.00 | Ghelae | Is it working now? |
| 22:25.36 | Tek0516 | Ghelae: Nope. Went home for the night. |
| 22:25.52 | Tek0516 | Maybe tomorrow? XD |
| 22:26.04 | Wormy_ | Tek: What kind of CS is it, not DML by any chance? |
| 22:27.16 | Tek0516 | Windows Presentation Foundation and C#. |
| 22:27.48 | Wormy_ | Don't know those areas |
| 22:28.47 | Tek0516 | WPF's an old .NET 3.0 system (from 2006?) |
| 22:29.34 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://cs8.pikabu.ru/post_img/2016/12/27/6/1482830460199458599.jpg |
| 22:29.49 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:30.25 | Xho | Well the greek word for 'helmet' is kranos |
| 22:30.32 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Imagine a historical movie set during the Helot rebellion following the Spartan earthquake, where the Spartans are the antagonists and the Helots are the good guys |
| 22:30.36 | Xho | Not too sure if it's the same in Ancient Greek |
| 22:30.54 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: That'd be rather interesting actually |
| 22:31.03 | Imperios | Xho: It should |
| 22:31.18 | Imperios | There are no sounds that underwent severe changes so |
| 22:31.23 | Imperios | In this word that is |
| 22:31.27 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: I'm worried about this upcoming exam in programming, but its with pen and paper and I never coded with thought alone. So trying to get as much stuff covered as possible like recursion |
| 22:32.38 | Imperios | https://el.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%AC%CE%BD%CE%BF%CF%82#.CE.91.CF.81.CF.87.CE.B1.CE.AF.CE.B1_.CE.B5.CE.BB.CE.BB.CE.B7.CE.BD.CE.B9.CE.BA.CE.AC_.28grc.29 And yes I was righgt |
| 22:33.17 | Tek0516 | Wasn't until last term that I had a programming exam that wasn't pen amd paper |
| 22:34.11 | Wormy_ | The irony is, databases has clicked even though I hated it most |
| 22:34.41 | Wormy_ | That was more because of the way it was taught, though |
| 22:38.04 | Tek0516 | Databases was my worst class lf the term due to the prof |
| 22:38.48 | Wormy_ | Our module was supposed to cover databases AND interfaces |
| 22:39.03 | Wormy_ | However he covered interfaces in the last week and half |
| 22:39.40 | Wormy_ | A lot of people unfamilar with web had to learn PHP, JS, HTML and CSS, and design, to complete a project handed in the last two weeks |
| 22:39.54 | Wormy_ | Luckily I have web experience already from my degree |
| 22:41.07 | Wormy_ | This was to make a fully functioning dynamic website with database controls |
| 22:46.49 | DrodoEmpire | yeeeeeeeeeeey |
| 22:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | Got two essays done at the same tie |
| 22:46.57 | DrodoEmpire | *time |
| 22:54.28 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0cd9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.205.157) |
| 22:54.34 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:54.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 22:55.37 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 22:56.26 | DrodoEmpire | I don't post music here often, nor does anyone really (besides dino once in a blue moon), but I'm really surprised that I haven't heard this remix of "You're On" before - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RUDU-8mYnQ |
| 22:57.11 | DrodoEmpire | Especially considering that its arguably better than the remixes that were promoted by Madeon himself a couple years back, which I believe this wasn't a part of |
| 23:22.33 | *** join/#sporewiki Tek0516 (uid149600@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-phowtnzbxtocvasl) |
| 23:41.05 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: I follow the artist who did the artwork on that video, he has cool stuff |
| 23:41.58 | Xho | Song isn't too bad either |
| 23:42.06 | Xho | Not something I'd normally listen to but it's groovy |
| 23:44.05 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, yeah |
| 23:44.10 | Wormy_ | Found old treasure (or trash) http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/First_Gigaquadrant/Original |
| 23:44.28 | Wormy_ | That solves the debate of where Phtadox came from |
| 23:44.32 | DrodoEmpire | Who's the artist? Just curious |
| 23:44.46 | Xho | Beeple |
| 23:44.51 | DrodoEmpire | kk cool |
| 23:46.39 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_ Phtadox? |
| 23:46.59 | Wormy_ | Phradox |
| 23:47.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 23:47.21 | DrodoEmpire | Still a lot of questions <.< |
| 23:47.43 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: This remix *is* a lot more low-key than the original, though I like both |
| 23:48.29 | Wormy_ | Well, people couldn't be sure whether Phradox, if it still exists, came from the Xonexi or the IK cluster. The page mysteriously states me and Cyrannian ressurected it, but neither of us remember doing so. |
| 23:48.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oh dear |
| 23:49.21 | Wormy_ | Phradox in fact comes from the Xanthrus cluster, which probably got scorched the most because it was MushrumKing's fiction lol |
| 23:49.29 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 23:49.38 | DrodoEmpire | "Birthday -> your mom's favourite restaurant" |
| 23:49.40 | DrodoEmpire | alright |
| 23:51.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hey wasn't there a Second Gigaquadrant at some point? |
| 23:51.21 | DrodoEmpire | Had its own wiki, or something? |
| 23:52.08 | Wormy_ | There were attempts to create a second one but it was never popular |
| 23:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | Rite |
| 23:53.16 | Liquid_Ink | IIRC, Oluap originally placed Borealis in the Second Gigaquadrant |
| 23:53.21 | DrodoEmpire | >listen to a song I like on YT |
| 23:53.22 | Wormy_ | There was another fiction universe that sprang to life before the FU, by some users here. We tried a crossover once but found the universes were quite incompatible, as our fiction was OP and used a different mode. |
| 23:53.38 | DrodoEmpire | >the comments are all roasting the artist who misspoke the title on tour |
| 23:53.53 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 23:54.04 | DrodoEmpire | Ohh yeah |
| 23:54.13 | DrodoEmpire | I recall there was an entirely different universe once upon a time |
| 23:54.19 | Wormy_ | http://sporefanfic.wikia.com/wiki/Spore_Fan_Fiction_Wiki |
| 23:54.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yep that's the one |
| 23:55.04 | DrodoEmpire | Aw, no recent edits at all |
| 23:55.10 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta sad seeing a dead wiki like tgat |
| 23:55.11 | DrodoEmpire | *that |
| 23:55.47 | DrodoEmpire | The last edits seem to have been on July of 2016 |
