| 00:00.37 | Xho | I don't think the 'sk' sounds exists in Nahuatl |
| 00:00.38 | Imperios | Monet_2: Some Russian cities are pretty but the Soviet districts |
| 00:00.43 | Imperios | http://arendaservice.ru/images/foto-razdelov/kupchino-kupchinskaya-ulitca.jpg They can look quite depressing |
| 00:00.44 | Xho | Or in the Tuuros Galactic Language |
| 00:01.01 | Xho | Imperios: No less depressing than London |
| 00:01.36 | Xho | It wouldn't exist in the Zhulultu language either |
| 00:01.37 | Hachiman | Imperios: Female Saphronian lesbian knight who uses heavy armour and weapons would be how one expies Zaryah correct |
| 00:01.49 | Monet_2 | I imagine that district to be like Peckham |
| 00:01.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: How would you pull off a gatling gun in a fantasy setting though |
| 00:02.07 | Hachiman | Heavy repeating crossbow |
| 00:02.09 | Monet_2 | Ratling gun doe |
| 00:02.21 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Heavy repeating crossbows are a thing right |
| 00:02.41 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I believe the Romans made a few |
| 00:02.51 | DrodoEmpire | Chu-ko-nus would be an example of a personal version |
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| 00:02.59 | DrodoEmpire | A magazine-fed, close-range crossbow] |
| 00:03.31 | DrodoEmpire | They weren't terribly powerful, but that's why the Chinese tipped the bolts with a potent poison, or neurotoxin |
| 00:03.54 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Haygate http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/28/article-2316072-1985BB54000005DC-442_964x584.jpg |
| 00:04.19 | Imperios | Wormy_: "NO MORE WAR" |
| 00:04.24 | Imperios | Dem progressive chavs |
| 00:04.38 | Wormy_ | Luton http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03554/luton-ugly-town_26_3554386b.jpg SE England http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/03/article-0-19103B4D000005DC-94_964x636.jpg |
| 00:04.46 | Hachiman | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/1e/51/0e/1e510e14956b61ec9ada64d81fd89f66.jpg This looks fucking awesome |
| 00:04.52 | Xho | The Zhulultu language would render 'skuter' as something entirely different so I couldn't give you a good enough eqal |
| 00:04.53 | Xho | equal |
| 00:05.07 | Monet_2 | "Luton-ugly-town" nice one Telegraph. |
| 00:05.21 | Wormy_ | It is ugly |
| 00:05.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: That one's really stylised, but is essentially how it works |
| 00:05.32 | Xho | I forget what the Roman crossbow was called |
| 00:05.40 | Xho | The one that was supported by one's own weight |
| 00:05.46 | DrodoEmpire | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/deadliestfiction/images/f/f8/Chu-Ko-Nu_Crossbow.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120613021855 |
| 00:05.51 | Imperios | Manuballista? |
| 00:05.52 | Imperios | Arcballista? |
| 00:06.21 | Xho | Gastraphetes |
| 00:06.21 | Monet_2 | manuballista I think |
| 00:06.23 | Xho | That's the one |
| 00:06.25 | Monet_2 | Ah |
| 00:06.29 | Xho | It was Greek |
| 00:06.33 | Xho | I was in the wrong area |
| 00:06.59 | Hachiman | So, a heavily-armoured lesbian Saphronian knight who wields a heavy repeating crossbow |
| 00:07.05 | Hachiman | That is how one would expy Zaryah |
| 00:07.32 | Xho | Wasn't a very effective weapon though |
| 00:07.36 | Xho | The Gastraphetes that is |
| 00:08.25 | Hachiman | Or some other heavy ranged weapon that could be found in Medieval times |
| 00:08.34 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: What was the earliest version of a gatling gun |
| 00:08.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 00:08.47 | Xho | Hachiman: Get a trebuchet Throw the entire trebuchet |
| 00:08.58 | DrodoEmpire | Well, related weapons existed as far back as the 1500s as ribaults |
| 00:09.03 | DrodoEmpire | "Organ guns" |
| 00:09.22 | Monet_2 | http://wiki.totalwar.com/images/4/4d/Den_ne_ribault_info.png |
| 00:09.27 | DrodoEmpire | Basically up to several dozen small cannons or muskets lashed together, and firing in unison |
| 00:09.36 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty much |
| 00:09.40 | DrodoEmpire | Then came the Puckle gun |
| 00:09.44 | Hachiman | Eh need something that can be carried on an exceptionally strong person |
| 00:09.48 | Monet_2 | Not very man-portable though |
| 00:09.55 | DrodoEmpire | Which had a single barrel and as fired by a rotary "magazine" |
| 00:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | It was horse-drawn and weighed about as much as a small cannon, though |
| 00:10.16 | Xho | Hachiman: What about a portable harpoon gun |
| 00:10.24 | DrodoEmpire | And the first gatling guns came about in the 1860s |
| 00:10.36 | Monet_2 | Gatling guns were gamechangers though. |
| 00:10.37 | Hachiman | Xho: Why harpoons tho |
| 00:10.38 | DrodoEmpire | After that was the Maxim gun, which was the first proper machine gun |
| 00:10.43 | Xho | Because they're barbed and fucking brutal |
| 00:10.50 | DrodoEmpire | As it was blowback operated, etc. |
| 00:10.50 | Hachiman | True |
| 00:10.56 | DrodoEmpire | And the rest is history |
| 00:11.02 | Hachiman | Wouldn't that be unbecoming of a knight though |
| 00:11.07 | DrodoEmpire | Or rather, even more history |
| 00:11.10 | Xho | Oh we're talking about morality here |
| 00:11.10 | DrodoEmpire | Why? |
| 00:11.13 | Xho | I withdraw from this |
| 00:11.30 | Xho | I can't really suggest weapons without them being ethically questionable |
| 00:11.33 | Hachiman | Because isn't barbed weaponry like super dishonourable or something |
| 00:11.37 | DrodoEmpire | Besides harpoons not being... practical(?), little stopped nobility from using firearms |
| 00:11.55 | DrodoEmpire | Well, certain types of arrows were "barbed" in a sense |
| 00:12.02 | DrodoEmpire | They were nasty but so was every medieval weapon |
| 00:12.08 | Hachiman | True |
| 00:12.09 | Wormy_ | People still lived in bombed out ruins or old slums until the 60's, 70's and even 80's http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/02/video-undefined-21DEB48100000578-850_636x358.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/12/06/17/3B1023CB00000578-4006564-image-m-19_1481047049624.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/01/1412188439479_wps_4_These_images_are_supplied.jpg |
| 00:12.16 | DrodoEmpire | Plus they were ineffective against armour |
| 00:12.21 | Monet_2 | barbed weapons were widely adopted because they were pretty useful. |
| 00:12.31 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Not if it's a fucking huge harpoon No one will question the practicality of someone launching a fuck-off sized harpoon at someone |
| 00:12.32 | Monet_2 | If they got stuck i na shield, you had to throw away the shield |
| 00:12.39 | DrodoEmpire | Against unarmoured targets, because they were difficult to remove |
| 00:12.45 | DrodoEmpire | That too |
| 00:12.58 | DrodoEmpire | Then you can't practically use it in a battlefield situation Xho |
| 00:13.04 | Imperios | Wormy_: Here's the cheapest habitation in Russia http://oknasindy.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/%D1%85%D1%80%D1%83%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC.jpg |
| 00:13.09 | Hachiman | So, a heavily-armoured lesbian Saphronian knight who wields a heavy harpoon gun |
| 00:13.14 | Xho | Depends if we're talking about humans I guess |
| 00:13.19 | Xho | I wasn't really limiting my horizons to humans |
| 00:13.27 | Imperios | http://remontistroyka.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/%D0%A5%D1%80%D1%83%D1%89%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B8.jpg They're often very cramped inside |
| 00:13.40 | Wormy_ | Looks pretty drafy and dilapidated |
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| 00:14.45 | Xho | But yeah a harpoon gun is hard to use if you can't lug it about, load it and fire it fast enough |
| 00:15.05 | Monet_2 | I think until the invention of the LMG, weapons capable of killing entire groups of peopel tended to be more horse-drawn than man portable. |
| 00:15.28 | Monet_2 | Practical weapons anyway |
| 00:15.39 | DrodoEmpire | Eh |
| 00:15.47 | Xho | I wonder if there's any primitive tank designs on Koldenwelt |
| 00:15.47 | DrodoEmpire | Basically yeah |
| 00:15.52 | Xho | Like wooden war machines |
| 00:15.56 | Hachiman | >ancient evil arises shrouded in dark magic >one shot it with a harpoon gun |
| 00:16.07 | DrodoEmpire | Well, there were such things as war wagons Xho |
| 00:16.07 | Xho | Hachiman: Critical Shot on Cunt |
| 00:16.33 | DrodoEmpire | They were horse-drawn wooden wagons that had small cannons on their sides and firing/fighting ports |
| 00:16.41 | Hachiman | How much magic will you require to effectively counteract a shot from a harpoon gun, I wonder |
| 00:16.56 | Hachiman | I mean if you can move fast enough, fine; but if you can't, well |
| 00:16.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: Actually |
| 00:16.59 | Xho | huh well |
| 00:17.00 | Imperios | How about a hand cannon |
| 00:17.00 | Hachiman | Twelve Hells help you |
| 00:17.05 | DrodoEmpire | The Hussites were known to use them to great effect in the early 1400s, but they weren't really ever used beyond that |
| 00:17.15 | DrodoEmpire | Mostly because they're super ungainly |
| 00:17.22 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Some pictures from Liverpool in the 1980's look like they are from the Third World https://pro.magnumphotos.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult_VPage&STID=2S5RYDWZ62KG |
| 00:17.30 | Hachiman | A hand cannon doesn't really sound like a Zarya-kind of thing |
| 00:17.30 | Xho | Hachiman: I can imagine a Harpoon Gun carving through Shiarchon armour so one would be fucked |
| 00:17.55 | Wormy_ | It's cleaned up quite bit since then though |
| 00:17.55 | Hachiman | Her thing is "big two-handed range weapon that requires peak-level human strength to use" |
| 00:18.03 | Imperios | Hachiman: Like think ogres from Warhammer Fantasy Battles |
| 00:18.04 | Hachiman | Oh and heavy armour |
| 00:18.23 | Xho | Ndrhthryr - 11/10 would marry |
| 00:18.24 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: they were often used en masse as impromptu fortifications |
| 00:18.33 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2011/2/13/184940_md-Deathmaw,%20Kingdoms,%20Leadbelchers,%20Ogres.jpg Like this |
| 00:18.36 | DrodoEmpire | Or on their own to bolster formations, or supplement a pincer |
| 00:18.43 | Hachiman | Oh you mean THOSE |
| 00:18.48 | Hachiman | How do you even use those though |
| 00:18.52 | DrodoEmpire | They weren't used the way modern armour is |
| 00:19.34 | DrodoEmpire | They were also vulnerable against artillery, as are modern tanks |
| 00:19.35 | Imperios | Hachiman: I have no idea, but these things really existed, albeit smaller |
| 00:19.59 | Xho | Koldenweltian wars have a few more factors than Earth wars I guess |
| 00:20.03 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, no human could practically use a small cannon as a personal weapon |
| 00:20.04 | Xho | Like, magic |
| 00:20.35 | DrodoEmpire | Sure, but the fact is that its a wooden war-wagon-- perhaps you could use magic to propell it, but that's still getting mashed up by field artillery |
| 00:20.41 | Hachiman | Magic and the fact that different species have objective bonuses over one another in such drastic ways |
| 00:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its also still less mobile than cavalry, and probably more expensive |
| 00:21.01 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Like, very early personal firearms |
| 00:21.07 | Imperios | They resembled small cannons didn't they |
| 00:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, but they weren't cannons |
| 00:21.36 | DrodoEmpire | Cannon is a matter of calibre and bore, not really mechanism |
| 00:22.17 | DrodoEmpire | Nonetheless war wagons *would be* more effective when you factor in magic, but they'd still keep their old weaknesses |
| 00:22.22 | Xho | Naval warfare is uncommon on Koldenwelt I guess |
| 00:22.24 | Hachiman | Xho: As for your question about tanks, automatic and manual golems are already a thing |
| 00:22.37 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Given how little sea there is, yeah probably |
| 00:23.19 | DrodoEmpire | Naval warfare flourishes when sea travel does, generally. I can only see there being a handful of areas where intensive sea travel takes place |
| 00:23.32 | Xho | Orayu - not here kek |
| 00:23.49 | Xho | Makes me wonder how useful the Orayu are on land |
| 00:23.54 | Xho | Well, not really |
| 00:23.56 | Xho | They'd be useless |
| 00:23.58 | Wormy_ | 6 years before I was born parts of England looked like this. Not quite sure there is anywhere this bad now https://pro.magnumphotos.com/Asset/-29YL53JNMZ.html |
| 00:23.59 | Hachiman | But magic |
| 00:24.06 | Xho | Okay some Orayu |
| 00:24.25 | Xho | Most Orayu are hydromancers so that rules them out |
| 00:24.50 | Xho | Some are cryomancers, aeromancers, geomancers and electromancers |
| 00:24.57 | Xho | And then the occasional prophetic aetheromancer |
| 00:25.10 | Xho | Although the proportions are unbalanced |
| 00:25.41 | Xho | Orayu are unsuited to ground combat anyway since they don't really venture outside of their own turf |
| 00:25.49 | Xho | Which is 80% underwater |
| 00:26.18 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlB1thcT5rbvVJu/giphy.gif "Simo Hayha preparing to ambush a Russian artillery position. Karelian Isthmus, 1940. Colorized." |
| 00:27.19 | Xho | The Athsulisstai historically steamrolled the Orichalcum Elves so that tells something about them |
| 00:27.40 | Xho | Although the Orichalcum Elves were mostly unaware of the fact the Athsulisstai existed |
| 00:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 00:28.13 | Imperios | Hachiman: fug :DDDDD |
| 00:28.38 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Now I feel sad http://muybridgeshorse.com/2013/11/14/peter-marlow/ |
| 00:28.45 | Xho | Imperios: snibe X---DDDDD |
| 00:29.54 | Xho | I do wonder what the downfalls of the Athsulisstai's military is |
| 00:30.03 | Xho | Most likely ranged assaults |
| 00:30.36 | Xho | They're big targets in the air so a well placed crossbow bolt could down them |
| 00:32.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I can envision armies perhaps fortifying in subterranean networks, and firing with cannons, guns, or crossbows |
| 00:32.07 | Imperios | Xho Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=B1qlI5acwHQ |
| 00:32.14 | Imperios | Monet2 too |
| 00:32.31 | Xho | The Athsulisstai up close are generally invulnerable from a physical perspective |
| 00:32.43 | Xho | Unless you can target their weak points |
| 00:33.14 | Hachiman | I mean, they have three additional appendages they need to worry about |
| 00:33.27 | Xho | Indeed |
| 00:33.41 | Xho | The fact they have dragon hide is a help to them but they're fucking massive |
| 00:33.43 | Xho | And fucking slow |
| 00:33.49 | Xho | Well not that slow |
| 00:34.03 | Hachiman | So what you're saying is harpoon gun |
| 00:34.08 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 00:34.26 | Xho | The Shiarchon are probably the worst match up |
| 00:34.42 | OluapPlayer | i cast fist |
| 00:34.52 | Xho | fist of fug |
| 00:35.25 | Xho | Decpitation, complete physical destruction or piercing over where their heart should be are pretty much the only way to kill them |
| 00:35.30 | Xho | Oh and heliomancy |
| 00:36.57 | Xho | The fact that they lack the blood vessels that can incur death once opened up makes it difficult |
| 00:37.57 | Hachiman | Wait what |
| 00:38.11 | Wormy_ | So this is what happens if you snort four million scoville chilli extract https://youtu.be/dG_ahU2-rm8?t=1m58s |
| 00:38.16 | Xho | They are dried up and decaying soulless husks remember |
| 00:39.02 | Xho | If they have any organs left they're dessicated and non-functioning |
| 00:39.57 | Xho | That being said some of them retain a fair bit of musculature |
| 00:40.48 | Xho | Wormy_: $25 was not worth it |
| 00:41.00 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 00:41.19 | Xho | Orichalcum Elves can be killed in the same manner as other humans and elves although their healing abilities are vastly accelerated |
| 00:41.29 | Hachiman | Oh I thought you meant the dragonfolk |
| 00:41.34 | Hachiman | Right, Shiarchon make sense |
| 00:42.05 | Xho | Néva's healing abilities are accelerated as well but nowhere near as fast as an Orichalcum Elf |
| 00:42.41 | Xho | Skaurovirn, hm |
| 00:42.54 | Xho | On the off chance physical damage actually heals them, go fuck yourself lel |
| 00:43.43 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo are just pretty agile, and beyond that not much stronger than baseline humans >.< |
| 00:43.45 | Xho | Skaurovirn only have superhuman characteristics in dark environments and are weaker in the presence of sunlight and moonlight so they're at no advantage in open world |
| 00:44.42 | DrodoEmpire | They have good agility and massively buffed adrenal glands, and stand a bit shorter than humans-- the way they survive wars is by sticking together in disciplined formations and using any tech they get their hands on |
| 00:44.56 | Xho | Annamasakkan is used to the open environment only because he's been in it for nearly four centuries |
| 00:45.01 | DrodoEmpire | To compensate for physical mediocrity |
| 00:45.27 | OluapPlayer | all my things are normal things and not op mutants |
| 00:45.30 | Xho | Dalmiric Humans are a bit taller and hardier than normal humans but still go down the same |
| 00:45.49 | Xho | Stab any of those things in the heart and they die really |
| 00:45.58 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: vampires tho |
| 00:46.08 | Xho | Apart from perhaps the Skaurovirn in a dark environment |
| 00:46.08 | Hachiman | Then again your vampires have standard vampire weaknesses |
| 00:46.10 | DrodoEmpire | highfives Oluap |
| 00:46.22 | OluapPlayer | Yes, include insta-kill via heart stab |
| 00:46.28 | OluapPlayer | including even |
| 00:46.37 | Xho | Heart Stab is the spy backstab of Koldenwelt |
| 00:47.42 | Xho | Orayu have no physical advantages other than the fact they're just bigger and therefore strong |
| 00:49.45 | Xho | Kôrhusn are bears so they're just bears |
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| 00:50.10 | Xho | Septentrions are self explanatory |
| 00:50.44 | Xho | I think that's all of my species |
| 00:50.54 | Xho | Oh Natelevarà Elves as well |
| 00:50.58 | Xho | Nothing really |
| 00:51.38 | Xho | Oh and I'quatas Orcs |
| 00:51.44 | Xho | They're Orcs |
| 00:52.17 | OluapPlayer | Orcs die like humans do |
| 00:52.21 | Xho | Exactly |
| 00:52.47 | Xho | Orcs are more resilient although not by much |
| 00:52.59 | Xho | At least not the I'quatas |
| 00:54.56 | Hachiman | Black Orcs are eh, better strength and endurance but that's about it I would think |
| 00:55.34 | Xho | kuroi ouku |
| 00:55.49 | Hachiman | Khara benefits from having enhanced above-average strength from her heritage, but she's kind of a reckless fighter which gets her beaten up a fair amount of the time |
| 00:55.58 | Xho | Out of all my creatures the worst possible one to face would be the Septentrion |
| 00:57.45 | Xho | Luckily for Talmyr they're mostly indifferent to the rest of the world |
| 01:00.20 | Xho | Anything pertaining to fire or sun magic could counter them however |
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| 01:01.45 | Xho | Anyway I need to go to sleep because work and shit |
| 01:11.19 | Wormy_ | Finnally thought of a name, tzquuucha |
| 01:12.11 | Wormy_ | ts-cu-uu-ch-a |
| 01:12.40 | Wormy_ | or ts-k-uu-ch-a |
| 01:13.05 | Wormy_ | for skuther |
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| 01:16.02 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 01:28.49 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 01:29.05 | OluapPlayer | u failed |
| 01:29.14 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Is there a name in linguistics for a language to base a word on the sound of a word (with different meaning), in another language? |
| 01:29.34 | Imperios | You mean a loanword? |
| 01:29.56 | Wormy_ | That might be it |
| 01:30.02 | Imperios | Or basing a word on some sound? |
| 01:30.13 | Imperios | Like "ululating" |
| 01:30.19 | Imperios | Or "woofing" |
| 01:30.38 | Wormy_ | I want extragalactics of Tuuros to derive "skuther" from "tzquuucha" |
| 01:30.47 | Imperios | Oh yeah a loanword |
| 01:30.53 | Wormy_ | then build theiir own acronym out of it |
| 01:30.58 | Wormy_ | cool, thanks |
| 01:31.01 | Imperios | > then build theiir own acronym out of it |
| 01:31.09 | Imperios | There's another term for it |
| 01:31.34 | Imperios | "Folk etymology", when people take a foreign word and change it so it would make sense for them |
| 01:31.41 | Wormy_ | Technomystics of say, the Milky Way will call it "Synchronising Cultural Extelligence Unit to Engineer Regress" |
| 01:31.44 | Imperios | For example, "cuccaracha" -> "cockroach" |
| 01:32.17 | Imperios | Like, English people heard a foreign word and came up with their own explanation for it |
| 01:32.27 | Wormy_ | Interesting |
| 01:32.36 | Imperios | "cuccaracha" -> "cucca-racha" -> "cock-roach", or a roach that... looks like a cock I guess |
| 01:32.53 | Imperios | That's folk etymology |
| 01:33.10 | Imperios | So you suggest that Tuurosians took a foreign word and then turned it into an acronym? |
| 01:33.20 | Imperios | Misinterpreting it in some way |
| 01:33.42 | Wormy_ | Other way around |
| 01:34.58 | Imperios | Ah, like taking a foreign acronym and not translating it, until it slowly becomes a normal word |
| 01:35.31 | Imperios | Like how we call NATO "NATO" rather than "OSAD" or something |
| 01:35.42 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 01:38.37 | Imperios | There's a word for when the original etymology of the word goes away, I'm supposed to know it, it's on the exam |
| 01:39.01 | Imperios | ..erased etymology I think |
| 01:42.01 | DrodoEmpire | heh more like CUCK-roach amirite xdddddd please kill me |
| 01:44.35 | OluapPlayer | eliminate urself |
| 01:45.31 | DrodoEmpire | >; |
| 01:48.42 | Imperios | smacks DrodoEmpire with a stick of solidified social justice |
| 01:49.04 | Imperios | Begone, /pol/, from the body of this man, begone! |
| 01:50.02 | DrodoEmpire | pushes the stick of social justice away |
| 01:50.04 | DrodoEmpire | I don't wanna trade ass cancer for prostate cancer |
| 01:50.09 | DrodoEmpire | Get that junk outta here |
| 01:50.30 | Hachiman | Could be worse |
| 01:50.34 | Hachiman | Could be AnCap |
| 01:51.43 | OluapPlayer | eliminate urselves all of u |
| 01:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | Meh |
| 01:57.51 | Imperios | Wormy_: May I edit the Skuther page a bit for correct linguistic terminology? |
| 01:58.11 | Wormy_ | I'm currently editing, but I suppose you can |
| 01:58.25 | Wormy_ | or just tell me the right terminology |
| 01:59.09 | Wormy_ | I'm guessing its erased etymology |
| 01:59.19 | Wormy_ | Actually just go ahead and correct it |
| 02:00.47 | Imperios | There we go, does that work? |
| 02:04.05 | Wormy_ | Yes, that's much better actually |
| 02:04.14 | Wormy_ | thanks |
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| 02:10.08 | Dillonator407 | hello |
| 02:14.54 | Dillonator407 | no one around i guess, not really surprising |
| 02:15.12 | Monet | A bit of an assumption |
| 02:15.21 | Dillonator407 | oh hi true |
| 02:15.32 | Dillonator407 | i am rather impatient and restless |
| 02:15.51 | Monet | You don't have to be. |
| 02:16.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 02:16.35 | Dillonator407 | i suppose you are correct |
| 02:16.36 | Dillonator407 | hi |
| 02:18.55 | Dillonator407 | oh yeah i wont be able to come on for a couple of days soon because of stuff in life |
| 02:21.19 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 02:22.01 | Dillonator407 | ill try to come on after that |
| 02:24.47 | Dillonator407 | i apologise for not being able to work on fiction much lately btw |
| 02:26.49 | Monet | goodnight |
| 02:27.41 | Dillonator407 | goodnight |
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| 02:28.38 | Dillonator407 | hi |
| 02:30.24 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, its alright if you can't |
| 02:30.29 | DrodoEmpire | I've been busy myself |
| 02:30.44 | Dillonator407 | i see |
| 02:31.39 | Dillonator407 | mostly ive just worked on a bit of fantasyverse stuff on the wiki recently and have started getting a full history page for the Audals |
| 02:36.40 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
| 02:37.09 | Dillonator407 | still need to get a bunch of stuff sorted of course |
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| 02:53.20 | Dillonator407 | gtg |
| 03:42.56 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 03:47.24 | DrodoEmpire | "I'm not even afraid of a tornado-- you gotta be a real faggot to die from the wind." |
| 03:48.43 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/RdzA2Ik.jpg AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 03:49.01 | The_Randomness | metal |
| 03:49.04 | The_Randomness | :^) |
| 03:54.55 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/b43tjLw - I love this thread |
| 04:00.10 | The_Randomness | >your throat and tongue seem to have sprouted hair |
| 04:00.15 | The_Randomness | seems normal enough |
| 04:00.21 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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| 07:36.00 | drom | Wow |
| 07:36.44 | drom | Just us two. |
| 07:36.57 | drom | And two inactive users, and two bots. |
| 07:42.38 | Liquid_Ink | Yep |
| 07:43.01 | Liquid_Ink | Listen to the silenc |
| 07:43.04 | Liquid_Ink | *silence |
| 07:46.33 | drom | The silence is deafening indeed |
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| 08:06.35 | drom | Oh hey, someone broke the silence |
| 08:06.47 | Charles_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:06.56 | Liquid_Ink | And all he can say is silence. |
| 08:07.06 | Liquid_Ink | hits Charles_Bot |
| 08:07.23 | Liquid_Ink | WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL, HIGHLY TALKATIVE CHARLES? |
| 08:07.32 | Charles_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.59 | Charles_Bot | I'm highly talkative? :o |
| 08:08.27 | Liquid_Ink | Well, when you're in a conversation, you are |
| 08:08.38 | Liquid_Ink | This isn't a bad thing |
| 08:09.11 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.25 | Liquid_Ink | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.31 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.32 | Liquid_Ink | This dumb |
| 08:12.37 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ISqfA3vQ/IMG_0985.JPG |
| 08:12.47 | Charles_Bot | Signed, Australia |
| 08:14.15 | Liquid_Ink | Coriander is a highly controversial topic |
| 08:14.54 | Charles_Bot | Oh god |
| 08:15.20 | Charles_Bot | I just discovered that my professor is engaging in a twitter fight with another academic |
| 08:16.58 | Liquid_Ink | Nice |
| 08:17.13 | Charles_Bot | This twitter war includes people from Stanford, the NYT... I can't keep track of what's going on |
| 08:17.19 | drom | And that is how you find a Trump supporter |
| 08:17.21 | Charles_Bot | And it's not pretty |
| 08:17.59 | Charles_Bot | Subtle arguments about foreign policy in the post-cold war era do not fit into 140 characters |
| 08:19.07 | Charles_Bot | Oh wow, even Stephen Sestanovich is weighing in on this |
| 08:19.10 | Charles_Bot | Holy shit |
| 08:19.35 | drom | Wonder how long it will worsen into a fight using 10-page essays containing their arguments and all the references and arguments supporting their opinion. THEN LINK IT IN TWITTER |
| 08:20.26 | Charles_Bot | Hahaha |
| 08:20.32 | Charles_Bot | They would be much better |
| 08:20.42 | Charles_Bot | That would be much better* |
| 08:21.49 | drom | Using long titles with ad hominen sub-titles |
| 08:21.57 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/x5n2YHEY/IMG_0986.PNG |
| 08:22.20 | drom | "The X approach to Y - Top 10 reasons why your opinion -sucks-" |
| 08:23.45 | Liquid_Ink | Is the picture of your guy or the other guy? |
| 08:25.42 | Charles_Bot | My guy |
| 08:26.34 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
| 08:26.37 | Charles_Bot | The others are ad hominem-influence him |
| 08:26.53 | Charles_Bot | Hominem-ing* |
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| 09:05.10 | Groxkiller98 | Hai. |
| 09:05.21 | Groxkiller98 | I finally got the Illidan book. ^_^ |
| 09:28.34 | Groxkiller98 | Would it be possible to use Essence to traverse the galaxy rather than entering Hyperspace? |
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| 09:57.31 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
| 09:57.35 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:57.46 | Groxkiller98 | Updated the Teyan page again. |
| 09:57.50 | Groxkiller98 | The Navy, this time. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Teyan_Imperium_of_Andromeda#The_Imperial_Navy |
| 09:58.31 | Groxkiller98 | Ink let me use Mystic Essence again. |
| 09:59.36 | Groxkiller98 | I'm working on putting links in my work too. |
| 09:59.40 | Groxkiller98 | Lots of links! |
| 10:00.07 | Ghelae | So I saw. I'm not sure how that description's supposed to work: is it travelling through some Mystic Plane of Existence instead of hyperspace? |
| 10:00.14 | Groxkiller98 | Basically. |
| 10:01.36 | Groxkiller98 | They basically travel like in 40K, jumping through another dimension where time matters far less. |
| 10:01.54 | Groxkiller98 | That idea of "Has it been five minutes or five centuries?" |
| 10:03.44 | Ghelae | I guess that works. We don't currently have any Mystic realms that work like that, but that's no reason for there not to be one. |
| 10:03.46 | Groxkiller98 | So, at great strain, they get FTL transport, without the risks of Hyperspace. But in return, they can't do it often. |
| 10:04.13 | Groxkiller98 | Ink said I could work on a realm like that. Something the Teyan conjured, in effect. |
| 10:05.05 | Liquid_Ink | [19:38] <Liquid_Ink> Although my main perception of Mystic energy is about perceptions and willing things into existance, so you could interpret the "dimensions of mystic" as something they willed into existence for travel. |
| 10:05.20 | Groxkiller98 | Yeah. |
| 10:05.31 | Groxkiller98 | That's basically it. |
| 10:06.10 | Groxkiller98 | A Teyan project built through it's Essence-users to create a self-sustaining dimension they can travel through at FTL speeds. |
| 10:06.22 | Groxkiller98 | But getting in with an entire ship is... difficult. |
| 10:06.38 | Groxkiller98 | Thus they have so many working on a single ship for every fleet. |
| 10:06.43 | Ghelae | All right. That works. |
| 10:07.16 | Groxkiller98 | It's like jumping into the Warp. Only they made that dimension. |
| 10:11.57 | Ghelae | This is just something that stood out to me, partly because I recently rewrote the Omniverse page and worked to fit Essence realms into the whole framework. |
| 10:12.38 | Groxkiller98 | Oh? |
| 10:12.50 | Groxkiller98 | Link? |
| 10:13.14 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Locations/Omniverse |
| 10:14.08 | Ghelae | Also because I'm usually suspicious of people who want to create their own realm that's just-like-hyperspace-but-isn't, but since you've explained the actual differences to me that's not an issue. |
| 10:14.12 | Groxkiller98 | Thanks. |
| 10:14.25 | Groxkiller98 | Cool. |
| 10:29.31 | Groxkiller98 | Gotta run for a bit. Later. |
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| 10:53.56 | Groxkiller98 | Hey again. |
| 10:57.30 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:15.42 | Groxkiller98 | I still need to upload those new Teyan ship images. |
| 11:16.08 | Groxkiller98 | Will do that when I get home tonight. |
| 11:18.29 | Groxkiller98 | Also, thinking of making an image of a Teyan Cruiser's interior bridge. |
| 11:18.43 | Groxkiller98 | The seats will all need holes in the back for tails to go through. |
| 11:30.26 | Groxkiller98 | Just made a quick update to the Mithadorn page too. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mithadorn_Republic#Naval_Fleets |
| 11:31.10 | Ghelae | takes a look |
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| 11:31.57 | Groxkiller98 | ^_^ |
| 11:32.42 | Groxkiller98 | It's minor, but a significant note, given it explains their FTL tech. |
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| 11:42.20 | Groxkiller98 | Hey, Impy. |
| 11:51.26 | Groxkiller98 | So, does the Mithadorn FTL stuff make sense? |
| 11:56.50 | Ghelae | Well, as much as any of the SporeWikiverse's FTL does, yes. |
| 11:57.26 | Ghelae | The idea of Krasnikov tubes is, like wormholes, that you don't need an FTL drive on your ship, but there's no reason you couldn't use tube + hyperdrive anyway. |
| 11:59.42 | Ghelae | I don't like the use of the word "reality" to mean something that can be left, but then I don't think "reality" has a technical definition after all. |
| 12:09.17 | Groxkiller98 | Right. I'll reword it slightly. |
| 12:12.00 | Groxkiller98 | There, reworded it somewhat. |
| 12:14.54 | Ghelae | Yeah, that looks fine now. |
| 12:16.59 | Groxkiller98 | Anyway, gotta run. Later. |
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| 13:56.32 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 14:17.47 | Wormy_ | This makes me think of a Tarantino film http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Recovery_8 |
| 14:29.49 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 14:29.56 | Hachiman | Like the assassin group from Kill Bill |
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| 14:59.37 | Imperios | DrodoAway: https://img.ifcdn.com/images/f3087aa80da795353254fc1fce476f1e1822b526e829ba7fc57b8f0d01a29198_1.jpg |
| 14:59.38 | Imperios | Hi |
| 14:59.44 | Imperios | Hachiman too |
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| 15:23.27 | Hachiman | Imperios: fug all jewbs must die X-DDDD |
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| 15:30.59 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/lovecraft/images/a/af/Hastur.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150525022426 Hastur is fucking ripped |
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| 15:34.56 | OluapPlayer | Cthulhu - fucking incredible |
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| 15:36.55 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 15:47.58 | Imperios | Hachiman: God of Gains |
| 15:49.29 | Hachiman | Well, Hastur was once described as a 'god of shepards' |
| 16:25.27 | Wormy_ | http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/brexiters-still-expecting-clarity-from-gang-of-absolute-shysters-20170109119877 |
| 16:35.40 | Wormy_ | So, what do people think of this? Is it appropriately modern and ancient mythologically? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Tzquuucha |
| 16:40.04 | OluapPlayer | I'll be honest I don't really get what that's meant to be |
| 16:41.31 | Wormy_ | Hm, I was worried it has too much waffle. Or potentially mixing these things doesn't work |
| 16:42.43 | Wormy_ | It's essentially a belief that technology has spiritual forces, this one in particular guiding it towards destroying it's creator's minds |
| 16:43.04 | OluapPlayer | I see |
| 16:44.10 | Wormy_ | I feel like the magic in it could be explained more succinctly |
| 17:11.00 | Imperios | So like reverse Reapers |
| 17:12.24 | Wormy_ | What do you mean by "reverse"? |
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| 17:14.43 | dino82_ | hi |
| 17:15.01 | Imperios | Wormy_: The Reapers are actively opposing the creation of artificial intelligences capable of overtaking organic races, the Tzquucha supports it |
| 17:16.12 | Wormy_ | I see that makes sense. Yeah, Tzquucha supports it |
| 17:17.20 | Wormy_ | The Grox Meta-Emperor is more like a Reaper in that case, he wqants to be the only Technoospheric Lord in town |
| 17:17.40 | Imperios | Also, wait, does that mean the Xhodocto are behind rebellious AIs |
| 17:17.58 | Wormy_ | To reach the end of the universe and stomp out competition to get there |
| 17:18.36 | Wormy_ | Maybe, if it hastens the destruction of what they see as "illogical design" |
| 17:20.25 | Wormy_ | And the Gigaquarant's SCUTER is the belief that bioligical and cultural evolution acts as a giant machine; or that the machine's doings influen#ce evolution |
| 17:21.27 | Ghelae | How many rebellious AIs have we had in the fictionverse? |
| 17:23.20 | Ghelae | I guess the rogue parts of the Technoosphere count. Neraida. Maybe the Sequence? Errr's creations are the main robot uprising story I can think of, but they were deliberate. |
| 17:23.50 | Wormy_ | There's been a some selfishly evil ones like Exodium, and the rogue Technoospheric Lords who influenced the Civilisation |
| 17:24.01 | Wormy_ | I'm thinking that the origin of the Borg might also fit |
| 17:26.56 | Wormy_ | Believers in Tzquucha might say that Errr could have been influenced |
| 17:27.09 | Wormy_ | Of course that's up to Oluap |
| 17:27.46 | OluapPlayer | They could believe that if they want |
| 17:27.52 | OluapPlayer | Whether it happened is another story |
| 17:28.00 | Wormy_ | cool |
| 17:28.00 | OluapPlayer | Errr's robots were all loyal to him |
| 17:28.22 | Ghelae | If we're going to stretch the concept, Grox and Daleks might also count. |
| 17:28.47 | OluapPlayer | I think claiming every evil robot is the work of an unseen force is a bit of a stretch however |
| 17:29.07 | Wormy_ | They'd be an unusual case, they'd fit the belief for SCUTER, but maybe not Tzquuucha |
| 17:29.55 | Wormy_ | The Tuurosians go a bit further and say its of Xhodocto origin |
| 17:30.03 | Imperios | OH |
| 17:30.11 | Imperios | There's also these ancient Andromedan robot guys |
| 17:30.15 | Imperios | *There're |
| 17:30.30 | Ghelae | The Inheritance? |
| 17:31.40 | Imperios | No, no, the Mechanovirus creators |
| 17:31.57 | Imperios | The Inheritance acts entirely within the purposes of their creators, however |
| 17:32.00 | Imperios | There was also Adaru |
| 17:32.13 | Imperios | I bet noone but myself remember what Adaru was hur |
| 17:32.18 | Ghelae | Oh, the Mechanovirus are listed as a Sequence creation. |
| 17:32.40 | Ghelae | I remember the name Adaru. From New Dawn, I think? I'm not sure I remember what it was. |
| 17:33.10 | Wormy_ | The Sequence would be a good one, since it used to make a reference to Gar' Skuther |
| 17:33.14 | Imperios | Huge Artifact-powered Death Star on steroids, equipped with an artificial intelligence |
| 17:33.31 | Imperios | Which turned rampant |
| 17:33.47 | OluapPlayer | I don't because you stopped your story and never progressed it |
| 17:33.48 | OluapPlayer | lazi |
| 17:33.55 | Imperios | The Adaru part was finished tho |
| 17:34.21 | Imperios | But yes I am actually yet to explain the actual origin of the Artifacts |
| 17:34.24 | OluapPlayer | To be fair I didn't really remember Errr until Ghelae mentioned him |
| 17:34.41 | Imperios | Funnily enough I actually had it in mind for years yet never revealed it |
| 17:34.57 | OluapPlayer | I thought they were just some pieces of Tertamian tech |
| 17:35.12 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: http://img1.reactor.cc/pics/post/Warhammer-40000-%D1%84%D1%8D%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%8B-heresy-Black-Templars-3580291.jpeg |
| 17:35.18 | Imperios | Nah, Tertamians just found them |
| 17:35.54 | OluapPlayer | sister's big plump sisters |
| 17:39.04 | Ghelae | As far as I can tell, the Inheritance page doesn't link to the Artifacts page and the Artifacts page doesn't link to the Inheritance page. |
| 17:40.16 | Wormy_ | The Sequence apparantely created the Mechanovirus |
| 17:40.28 | Wormy_ | Is there a connection between the two? |
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| 17:40.47 | Hachiman | w a k e m e u p |
| 17:42.12 | Ghelae | A connection between what? (I'm guessing you don't mean the Sequence and the Mechanovirus, because you just answered that.) |
| 17:43.33 | Wormy_ | The Sequence and The Inheritance |
| 17:43.54 | Wormy_ | nvm |
| 17:44.05 | Wormy_ | " The Inheritance acts entirely within the purposes of their creators" |
| 17:45.44 | Ghelae | There could be some indirect connection between them for all I know, but their only obvious similarities are being precursor-age AIs with Andromedan presence. |
| 17:46.21 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://img1.reactor.cc/pics/post/Dawn-of-War-III-Warhammer-40000-Wh-%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0-%D1%84%D1%8D%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%8B-3558959.jpeg |
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| 17:59.53 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 18:00.35 | Cyrannian | nice work Wormy on the Tzquuucha |
| 18:01.35 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:03.58 | OluapPlayer | ~crush Cyrannian |
| 18:03.58 | infobot | ACTION crushes Cyrannian with a full height scsi disk |
| 18:04.24 | Cyrannian | ~chop OluapPlayer |
| 18:16.18 | Wormy_ | Hi, thanks |
| 18:17.24 | Ghelae | Wormy_: Surely there must be conspiracy theories about benevolent AIs being secretly under Tzquuucha influence, e.g. Apalos was a rogue AI that killed off the Girdo Empire using the stresses of their flight from the Xhodocto as a cover. |
| 18:18.33 | Wormy_ | Yeah, surely (I always thought the Apalos was a smoothie of aliens and AI) |
| 18:19.38 | Ghelae | They are, but it's not like there's conclusive proof of that to satisfy the conspiracy-minded. |
| 18:20.34 | Wormy_ | Ah |
| 18:27.28 | Wormy_ | Added some words on the Apalos |
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| 18:33.00 | Xho | ack |
| 18:34.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 18:35.30 | Wormy_ | Xho: boom http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Tzquuucha |
| 18:35.42 | Xho | That works |
| 18:37.23 | Xho | I could propose a possible nature for the Tzquuucha |
| 18:38.12 | Xho | A disembodied Zhulultu consciousness |
| 18:40.03 | Wormy_ | I guess that would make it the last Zhulutlu believed to be in existence? |
| 18:40.30 | Xho | There's multiple Zhulultu still in existence, all of them asleep |
| 18:40.40 | Xho | In very dark and far corners of galaxies |
| 18:41.13 | Wormy_ | If that's the power of one Zhulutlu, it certainly makes a civilisation of them terrifying |
| 18:45.59 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15894410_375245012852395_878889294108907151_n.jpg?oh=e9607e0b8a188d2295cf447a9de2a281&oe=5924420F Might be funny I dunno |
| 18:46.26 | OluapPlayer | Serperior still has arms tho |
| 18:46.43 | Xho | which one is that lul |
| 18:46.49 | OluapPlayer | The snake |
| 18:46.57 | Hachiman | It does? |
| 18:47.08 | Xho | Those are like thalidomide arms or something |
| 18:47.12 | Xho | Okay that was a bit too harsh |
| 18:47.13 | OluapPlayer | Yes, the little dark green things to its side are its arms |
| 18:47.22 | Hachiman | >Thalidomide arms |
| 18:47.25 | Hachiman | Fucking hell |
| 18:47.34 | OluapPlayer | dun get it |
| 18:48.06 | Wormy_ | very harsh |
| 18:48.10 | Xho | Thalidomide was a medicine released in the 50s that caused birth defects |
| 18:48.17 | Xho | Such as stunted growth in arms and legs |
| 18:48.22 | OluapPlayer | Never heard of |
| 18:48.31 | Xho | y'all need to get outta ur mancave |
| 18:48.31 | Hachiman | reed ur fukn history |
| 18:48.46 | OluapPlayer | fuk off dun care for ur shit britbong history |
| 18:48.49 | Xho | Well I made myself laugh which was the goal in the first place |
| 18:48.54 | Hachiman | It's not Britbong tho |
| 18:48.58 | Hachiman | I believe it's Canadian |
| 18:49.04 | Wormy_ | Worldwide |
| 18:49.04 | OluapPlayer | Close enough |
| 18:49.17 | Xho | eh |
| 18:49.45 | Xho | So the Serperior has arms then |
| 18:49.53 | Xho | I thought that was some natural collar or something |
| 18:49.57 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/jWenKaM.png |
| 18:50.06 | Xho | Oh |
| 18:50.10 | Xho | fins tho |
| 18:50.20 | OluapPlayer | They're arms, they're animated in-game |
| 18:50.29 | OluapPlayer | Tiny arms but arms anyway |
| 18:50.38 | Xho | teeny tiny arms for not so teeny tiny snek |
| 18:50.39 | OluapPlayer | Whoever made the comic never played the game |
| 18:50.41 | OluapPlayer | terrible person |
| 18:51.23 | OluapPlayer | It's 3 meters long so it's not teeny tiny |
| 18:51.28 | OluapPlayer | But might be small for a snake |
| 18:51.41 | Xho | [18:50] <Xho> teeny tiny arms for not so teeny tiny snek |
| 18:51.43 | Xho | pls reed |
| 18:51.54 | OluapPlayer | I am commenting on your statement you dingosaurus |
| 18:52.09 | Xho | sounds like you were disagreein |
| 18:52.24 | Hachiman | So, Lovecraft seems to have had a caffeine addiction |
| 18:52.31 | Xho | Doesn't surprise me |
| 18:52.38 | Hachiman | And he had 6-7 spoons of sugar with each cup of coffee |
| 18:52.39 | Xho | He's like a racist as fuck Tim Burton |
| 18:54.42 | Xho | Except Tim-Burton is more like claymation romance and HP Lovecraft is like Blind Idiot God |
| 18:54.54 | Xho | Why did I hyphenate Tim Burton |
| 18:55.00 | Xho | I'm going loopy here |
| 18:55.16 | Hachiman | olol |
| 18:55.50 | Hachiman | I'd compare Lovecraft more to a darker and grittier Stephen King - saying that, King is already quite dark and gritty |
| 18:56.30 | Hachiman | Ah, a literary John Carpenter would be more accurate |
| 18:56.33 | OluapPlayer | The Nightmare Before Christmas, featuring Hastur as Santa Claus |
| 18:57.02 | Imperios | Wasn't King inspired in party by Lovecraft? |
| 18:57.26 | Hachiman | He was |
| 18:57.54 | Hachiman | He often cites Lovecraft as a major influence and even wrote a story about an author who holds a hand in summoning eldritch alien monsters into the world through his writing |
| 18:57.56 | Imperios | *in part |
| 19:06.23 | Wormy_away | Some authors wrote stories around their belief of being influenced by eldritch or alien SCUTER type entities |
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| 19:08.58 | Hachiman | I just love the fact that Lovecraft and Robert Howard were friends and wrote stuff together |
| 19:09.10 | Hachiman | Yet how vastly different their styles of writing and storytelling were |
| 19:09.26 | Imperios | Hachiman Xho: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsRL1TCEuEvUuiPxJdpCjag That fucking YouTube avatar |
| 19:09.46 | Xho | wow |
| 19:09.48 | Imperios | Hachiman: Yet, oddly enough, despite Lovecraft being so depressive, it was Howard who killed himself |
| 19:09.54 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 19:10.03 | Hachiman | Although Lovecraft didn't go out easy either |
| 19:10.08 | Imperios | Suppose he had more guts than Lovecraft |
| 19:10.36 | Hachiman | Now that's an argument I'm gonna steer from |
| 19:11.59 | Imperios | I mean, Lovecraft never struck me as a particularily strong-willed fellow, while Howard was a fighter |
| 19:12.23 | Hachiman | Seriously, I don't want to get into whether suicide is an act of strong will or not |
| 19:12.26 | Xho | With stroke-inducing coffees, kind of paints the picture itself |
| 19:13.07 | Xho | Not that I'm saying Lovecraft had a stroke, just that his coffees are fucking horrid |
| 19:13.17 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:13.48 | Wormy_away | For somer reason YT recommends সাপ à¦à¦à¦¾à¦¶à§ à¦à¦¡à¦¼à§ । বাসà§à¦¤à¦¬à¦¬à§à¦° à¦à¦¡à¦¼à¦¨à§à¦¤ সাপ। à¦à§à¦¯à¦¾à¦®à§à¦°à¦¾à¦¯à¦¼ ধরা পরা à¦à¦¡à¦¼à¦¨à§à¦¤ সাপ। #https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsohhCLWTSs |
| 19:13.59 | Xho | Indeed |
| 19:14.01 | Hachiman | I was just going to say that Conan had no time to go insane as he cut down the ancient order of arcane occultists and proceeded to bisect their monstrous eldritch deity through the ass with his broadsword |
| 19:14.24 | Xho | Judging by the script it's Bengali so |
| 19:14.29 | Xho | Get your Bengali translator out |
| 19:14.46 | Wormy_away | It seems to be about gliding snakes |
| 19:15.36 | Wormy_away | imagine of of them coming at you |
| 19:15.45 | Wormy_away | *one |
| 19:15.52 | Xho | no thnx |
| 19:18.53 | Hachiman | Imperios: https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15965051_1240375166039271_2589699545936395233_n.jpg?oh=cff7078213cbf223aeff145180a90b69&oe=591D3CA1 |
| 19:19.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: ouch |
| 19:20.01 | Wormy_away | kind of works |
| 19:20.47 | Xho | Well that's fucking scary |
| 19:23.46 | Wormy_away | Not as scary as this http://imgur.com/gallery/2U7CF |
| 19:25.15 | Xho | wut |
| 19:25.18 | Xho | just |
| 19:25.18 | Xho | eh |
| 19:25.19 | Xho | wut |
| 19:25.21 | Wormy_away | "She's in for a long sad life now" |
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| 19:32.22 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
| 19:33.28 | Charles_Murray | Hey Grox |
| 19:34.45 | Groxkiller98 | On my PC. Finally installing Spore on it again. XD |
| 19:38.20 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:42.26 | Imperios | Wormy_away: That's more sad than scary |
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| 20:25.33 | Monet | hi |
| 20:32.29 | dino82_ | hi |
| 20:57.43 | dino82_ | bye bye |
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| 20:58.14 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 21:00.19 | Monet | http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/01/09/microsoft-cancels-platinum-39-s-scalebound.aspx?utm_content=bufferbf6aa&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer bye-bye to headphone-riding dragon riders. |
| 21:00.32 | Monet | headphone-wearing, rather. |
| 21:01.28 | Hachiman | Whoa what |
| 21:01.29 | Hachiman | But why |
| 21:02.03 | Monet | Lack of interest according to Platinum. |
| 21:02.30 | Monet | not PLatinum sorry, no brain tonight |
| 21:02.46 | Hachiman | I know that the game struggled to gain attention |
| 21:03.00 | Hachiman | But so do many games that aren't AAA titles |
| 21:03.18 | Monet | Honestly this is always a risk with a creative new title. |
| 21:06.34 | Monet | What we often don't hear is companies like to focus group the shit out of a new idea. |
| 21:06.52 | Hachiman | Ah yes, I forgot about focus groups |
| 21:07.14 | Hachiman | I won't lie; Scalebound did come off to me as an idea that was in need of some more refinement |
| 21:07.58 | OluapPlayer | I heard rumours that Scalebound was in trouble |
| 21:08.09 | OluapPlayer | Now this is a confirmation |
| 21:08.10 | OluapPlayer | Sucks |
| 21:08.20 | Hachiman | Aye; the concept was fantastic |
| 21:08.33 | Hachiman | Dragon-riding hack-and-slash in a science fantasy setting |
| 21:10.09 | Monet | Yeah the execution can make or break an idea. |
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| 21:19.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 21:20.24 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 21:20.31 | DrodoEmpire | This new monitor I have is fucking huge |
| 21:20.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its also bright |
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| 21:23.42 | Groxkiller98 | My internet returns! |
| 21:23.47 | Groxkiller98 | :D |
| 21:24.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hey! |
| 21:24.49 | Groxkiller98 | ^_^ |
| 21:25.00 | Groxkiller98 | People seen my page updates? Teyan and Mithadorn. |
| 21:25.17 | DrodoEmpire | Nope |
| 21:25.43 | Groxkiller98 | Go look! :P |
| 21:25.50 | DrodoEmpire | Links pls |
| 21:25.55 | DrodoEmpire | I'm lazy <.< |
| 21:26.31 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:31.12 | Charles_Murray | Monet Groxkiller98 DrodoEmpire Wormy_Away Imperios : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
| 21:31.23 | Charles_Murray | Updated perks :P |
| 21:32.19 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: >Republican Victory >Tricolour >Crown |
| 21:32.24 | Imperios | THIS IS BLASPHEMY |
| 21:32.32 | Charles_Murray | Hm? |
| 21:32.39 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:32.52 | Groxkiller98 | I approve of strange wording! |
| 21:33.04 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Republican_Victory_in_2818_Election.png This icon |
| 21:33.04 | Groxkiller98 | Republican Monarch. I like that idea. |
| 21:33.07 | Charles_Murray | What strange wording? :o |
| 21:33.30 | Groxkiller98 | What Imperios said. |
| 21:33.52 | Charles_Murray | The Valérists, which is Emperor Alexandre's political faction, are currently at the head of the Republican party |
| 21:34.06 | Charles_Murray | So a Republican win does mean that Alexandre is now back in power |
| 21:34.55 | Imperios | Still, the tricolour together with a crown |
| 21:35.25 | Charles_Murray | I mean |
| 21:35.25 | Charles_Murray | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Monarchy |
| 21:36.11 | Charles_Murray | But you're right, it is an odd cohabitation of elements |
| 21:36.50 | Monet | France in the 29th century still uses the Palais Elysee as a state building. |
| 21:37.18 | Charles_Murray | a monarchy which is... hereditary and symbolic, but which can be put at the head of the country by way of elections and democratic processes, and otherwise the whole system is a parliamentary republic |
| 21:37.26 | Monet | (forgive me for taking a hacksaw to the French name XD) |
| 21:37.44 | Technobliterator | I can't help but think of that victory icon's arrows pointing up just highlighting the debt increasing under their reign |
| 21:37.46 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 21:38.37 | Monet | Could reference the infrastructure boom. |
| 21:38.47 | Wormy_away | Charles_Murray: They'll be sharpening their guillotine eventually |
| 21:38.53 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: I like that royal flag better https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Flag_of_the_Kingdom_of_France_%281814-1830%29.svg |
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| 21:39.10 | Imperios | ^ That was an actual French national flag for 20 years |
| 21:39.15 | Technobliterator | URO glares at France for still having a two party system |
| 21:39.16 | Imperios | well, 16 |
| 21:39.28 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator and Monet are both right, it's a reference to economic recovery and to the growth of the national debt at the same time |
| 21:39.35 | Wormy_away | Oh, the white flag. I get it |
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| 21:40.02 | Groxkiller98 | I hate my ISP. |
| 21:40.20 | Imperios | It was used, fittingly enough, after France's defeat after the Napoleonic Wars |
| 21:40.28 | Imperios | *defeat in the |
| 21:40.37 | Groxkiller98 | What did I miss? |
| 21:40.47 | Charles_Murray | As well as growth in military spending and the size of the military |
| 21:41.04 | Imperios | The white standa for aristocracy |
| 21:42.02 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_British_Republic.svg Here's another weird flag |
| 21:42.45 | Wormy_away | WTF is the British Republic? Republicans? |
| 21:42.53 | Monet | 19th century |
| 21:42.58 | Monet | Doubt it. |
| 21:42.58 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator Monet Wormy_away I'm actually thinking of adding one more sub-trait |
| 21:43.07 | Imperios | Apparently a suggested flag for a British republic |
| 21:43.11 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Britain_Bill Holy shit that is apparently a thing |
| 21:43.48 | Charles_Murray | The dominance of the plight of populations that hold de facto second class citizenship in the Empire, which will blow up repeatedly in French Andromeda and obsess the Premier, who is from there |
| 21:44.17 | Charles_Murray | I'm trying to think of what to call it |
| 21:44.24 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://bluerainuk.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/flag_of_the_commonwealth-svg.png Here's another flag |
| 21:44.27 | Wormy_away | boo that would raise our taxes |
| 21:45.04 | Monet | Imperios: UK is divided into its constituent nations -> Still no recognition of Wales. |
| 21:45.48 | Imperios | https://bluerainuk.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/british_republican_flag_by_party9999999-d3cq5kr.jpg This one looks... Islamic |
| 21:45.55 | Imperios | What happens once |
| 21:45.57 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 21:46.06 | Imperios | THEY GET THEIR LAW ALL OVER OUR COONTREEH |
| 21:46.15 | DrodoEmpire | Well I mean there *was* a brief time where there was no monarchy |
| 21:46.50 | Monet | Wormy_away: I can see this getting opposed by any MP that wants to sustain British management of Northern Ireland. While a bill that would abolish the House of Lords first has to be scrutinised by...the House of Lords. |
| 21:47.25 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: With an enitrely different but still hereditary headof state? :P |
| 21:47.30 | Imperios | DROMWELL |
| 21:47.32 | Imperios | Cromwell"? |
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| 21:47.43 | Monet | Imperios: I think the green is more to represent the green fields of England. |
| 21:47.48 | Groxkiller98 | I'm probably gonna be suffering bad internet all night... >_> |
| 21:48.05 | Charles_Murray | "URO glares at France for still having a two party system" France - It kind of just happened that way |
| 21:48.35 | Imperios | Wormy_away Monet: http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/71518000/jpg/_71518678_flaginstitute_unitedbritain(3).jpg There we go, Union Jack with Wales |
| 21:48.35 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Here's a flag some rebels hoisted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Flag |
| 21:48.47 | Groxkiller98 | Heh. The Mithadorn don't even have any political parties. |
| 21:48.48 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Isn't that an Aussie flag? |
| 21:48.51 | Wormy_away | Seen that one, don;t like it |
| 21:48.54 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 21:49.00 | DrodoEmpire | WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT |
| 21:49.05 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Yes |
| 21:49.10 | DrodoEmpire | THAT FLAG IS DRUGS |
| 21:49.13 | Monet | That's not a flag. |
| 21:49.17 | Monet | That's an abomination. |
| 21:49.22 | Charles_Murray | AHAHAHA |
| 21:49.24 | Monet | Put it out of its misery! |
| 21:49.40 | DrodoEmpire | Another reason to keep the Welsh as far away from civilisation as possible |
| 21:49.41 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 21:49.46 | Wormy_away | I don't mind thisa variation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Union_Flag_(including_Wales).svg |
| 21:49.48 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 21:49.51 | Technobliterator | Pffft |
| 21:49.57 | Charles_Murray | That's pretty epic |
| 21:50.04 | Tek0516 | Bus after bus, every single one of them too full to board. >.< |
| 21:50.09 | Wormy_away | The Welsh dragon in the centre |
| 21:50.14 | Monet | I approve because of dragon. |
| 21:50.23 | Imperios | http://pre09.deviantart.net/5d5f/th/pre/f/2011/306/0/8/wales_deserves_recognition_by_rory_the_lion-d4esvt8.png This one's interesting |
| 21:50.49 | DrodoEmpire | ew |
| 21:50.50 | Imperios | Wormy_away: That flag kind of implies that Wales rules over Britain or something |
| 21:51.11 | Wormy_away | Well it should, Welsh are rhe true Britons |
| 21:51.33 | Monet | "How do we make the Welsh flag look like the opposite of St. George's Cross" "Use a negative" |
| 21:51.40 | Wormy_away | English are Saxon, Angle, Jute, Viking and Norman invaders |
| 21:51.43 | Groxkiller98 | You what, mate? Have you forgotten about us Cornish? |
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| 21:52.11 | Wormy_away | Groxkiller: Cornwal was part of what was Wales during the battle of Batten Hill againsat the barborous Saxons |
| 21:52.16 | Wormy_away | Cornwall |
| 21:52.22 | Groxkiller98 | We're still not Welsh! |
| 21:52.28 | Groxkiller98 | We're Cornish! |
| 21:52.58 | Groxkiller98 | There's a difference! We make better pastries. ;3 |
| 21:53.01 | Imperios | http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/71534000/jpg/_71534906_350727.jpg This one's interesting, it was made in the wake of Scottish independence so Scotland's not included |
| 21:53.06 | Imperios | Cornwall |
| 21:53.11 | Imperios | Is that some sort of English La |
| 21:53.18 | Wormy_away | I'm afraid the Britons are strangers in their own land. Wales is Saxon for stranger |
| 21:53.19 | Imperios | sort of British island |
| 21:53.34 | Groxkiller98 | Cornwall is an Engish province. |
| 21:53.37 | Imperios | Wormy_away: What's funny is that this word is used all over the world |
| 21:53.43 | Wormy_away | And Cornish are by their opinion, strangers to the English |
| 21:53.51 | Groxkiller98 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall |
| 21:54.02 | Imperios | The term for "stranger" is widespread and was applied to several nations |
| 21:54.24 | Groxkiller98 | We're kinda like an independent country that isn't recognised. |
| 21:54.26 | Monet | Butbut the Saxons lived in England for almost 2000 years. |
| 21:54.31 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Poles call Italy "Wlochy", French-speaking parts of Switzerland are called "Welscherland", and there's Walachia in Romania |
| 21:55.03 | Wormy_away | Was probably used by Saxons and other Germanic tribes |
| 21:55.15 | Wormy_away | Probably has many meanings |
| 21:56.23 | Groxkiller98 | brb |
| 21:56.50 | Wormy_away | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Flag_of_Cornwall.svg/1280px-Flag_of_Cornwall.svg.png |
| 21:57.04 | Wormy_away | I'll show you my county's illustrious flag |
| 21:57.27 | Wormy_away | Imperios: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2b/Derbyshire_flag.svg/1280px-Derbyshire_flag.svg.png |
| 21:57.54 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Purty flower |
| 21:58.07 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: You scoff at two parties-- but the Drodo aren't gonna have any soon because king <.< |
| 21:58.23 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 21:58.26 | Wormy_away | Tudor Rose |
| 21:58.44 | Wormy_away | Yellow to distinguish our much better county from Yorkshire |
| 21:58.56 | Groxkiller98 | The Mithadorn have a one-party system of sorts. |
| 22:00.06 | Groxkiller98 | Every star system elects a representative for the senate, whom vote on the Grand Chancellor. |
| 22:00.24 | Groxkiller98 | Speaking of which, it's about time I make a page for their current leader. |
| 22:00.28 | DrodoEmpire | Right, sounds a bit like a parliamentary system |
| 22:00.33 | Groxkiller98 | It is. |
| 22:00.37 | DrodoEmpire | What prevents parties from forming? |
| 22:00.50 | Groxkiller98 | Nothing. There just isn't any. |
| 22:00.54 | Charles_Murray | There, added the last one: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
| 22:01.07 | Technobliterator | Da Gangsta Party is the best political party |
| 22:01.15 | DrodoEmpire | Well... Parties are good things to be a part of |
| 22:01.22 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Sun Never Sets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_flags_of_the_British_Empire |
| 22:01.33 | DrodoEmpire | And when they aren't outright illegal they seem to often form |
| 22:01.43 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Union_Republic_of_Ottzello/Government/Parties#Da_Gangsta_Party |
| 22:01.45 | Technobliterator | the best |
| 22:01.48 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:02.02 | DrodoEmpire | It just makes sense for groups of politicians with shared interests to bunch together as a single organisation |
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| 22:02.43 | Imperios | Wormy_away: All I see are lots of Union Jacks with tiny things on the corner |
| 22:02.46 | Groxkiller98 | They kinda do, but since people constantly filter in and out, nothing official ever forms. |
| 22:03.32 | Groxkiller98 | Also, most imperial flags were just that. |
| 22:03.34 | DrodoEmpire | I think it might be a good idea to say that formal parties are illegal, just so nobody like me decides to be an asshole and nitpick >.< |
| 22:03.42 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 22:03.49 | Imperios | I don't think we ever had flags like that though |
| 22:04.04 | Wormy_away | Imperios: There more variety here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_flags |
| 22:04.05 | Groxkiller98 | It's officially a one-party system. :P |
| 22:04.42 | Wormy_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Isle_of_Mann.svg |
| 22:05.01 | Charles_Murray | French party system http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Political_Parties |
| 22:05.29 | Groxkiller98 | I'm going to write the politics stuff now. |
| 22:05.37 | Wormy_away | "smoke weed everyday" :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_British_Indian_Ocean_Territory.svg |
| 22:05.55 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 22:06.37 | Technobliterator | I know only foreign policy is listed there, but sounds like I could only ever vote Union Democrate |
| 22:06.46 | Technobliterator | in URO, I would vote Gangsta for free pizza |
| 22:06.55 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 22:07.15 | Wormy_away | Imperios: One with Scotland in the foreground https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Union_Jack_1606_Scotland.svg |
| 22:07.15 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Like a swastika except it kicks you in the face continuously |
| 22:07.20 | Wormy_away | for freeedom |
| 22:07.30 | Wormy_away | olol |
| 22:07.54 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : Why is that? |
| 22:09.02 | Technobliterator | Based on "5. Fewer troops, not more (Antimilitaristes)" and the description of them in office, versus the other guys |
| 22:09.17 | Monet | Soldiers r bad becus they kill peepul mkay. |
| 22:10.00 | Technobliterator | Yay for straw man ad hominems ^_^ |
| 22:10.01 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator What's the difference between them in office versus the other guys? I'm just curious, there's no right or wrong answer |
| 22:10.11 | Technobliterator | Well |
| 22:10.43 | Monet | Technobliterator: I was being silly don't worry. |
| 22:11.06 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Isle of Man flag was based on some saint's vision of the UFO |
| 22:11.23 | Imperios | You sute it wasn't just a variation on the swastika? |
| 22:12.46 | Wormy_away | It's the Triskelion |
| 22:13.31 | Technobliterator | You describe Baako as being minimalist on foreign policy, then Raymond takes over and immediately reverses it, plus what is listed in the platforms, so based on that I would only ever be able to vote the Union guys |
| 22:13.39 | Technobliterator | It's cool, Monet :P I didn't really take it seriously |
| 22:13.43 | Monet | I'm not so sure on the Union Democrates' Boundless Economy policy. |
| 22:13.52 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Stater_slinger_Aspendos_MBA_Lyon.jpg Apparently it was featured on Greek coins |
| 22:14.21 | Wormy_away | indeed, it goes back a long way in European history |
| 22:14.39 | Monet | Then again I'm a sceptic to the principle of post-scarcity. |
| 22:14.46 | Charles_Murray | Monet : That's a faction of the Union Democtats who basically want to go back to post-scarcity policies |
| 22:15.05 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Flag_of_Ingushetia.svg We have it too |
| 22:15.12 | Groxkiller98 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mithadorn_Republic#Politics |
| 22:15.15 | Technobliterator | URO just doesn't try a post scarcity economy, its people love social mobility too much |
| 22:15.19 | Imperios | The Ingush, to be precise, that's in North Caucasus |
| 22:15.28 | Technobliterator | the post scarcity party rarely gets any votes |
| 22:16.08 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Flag_of_Leningrad_Oblast.svg That's the flag of our oblast |
| 22:16.09 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : That makes sense; though the Republicans were the ultimate minimalists on foreign policy from 2807 to 2812, periodically slashing the military to the point where it couldn't operate; it didn't need to at the time |
| 22:16.25 | Monet | The war was over. |
| 22:16.35 | Monet | Then the Loron Attacked. |
| 22:16.49 | Technobliterator | Da Reckoning best war |
| 22:17.04 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 22:17.11 | Charles_Murray | The Democratic Union continued the same policy, except with a bit more emphasis on power because things were slightly more unstable |
| 22:17.20 | Groxkiller98 | No comments on my political section? |
| 22:17.20 | Wormy_away | What does the key and anchor symbolise? |
| 22:17.21 | Monet | It's hard to advocate state demilitarisation when groups like the Loron exist. |
| 22:18.01 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Saint-Petersburg, as a Westernised city, is a "window" towards Europe |
| 22:18.05 | Imperios | Hence the key |
| 22:18.09 | Imperios | It's also a port, hence the anchor |
| 22:18.23 | Charles_Murray | Then everything went to hell when France's minimalist foreign policy fell apart and France was shown to be incredibly weak |
| 22:18.26 | Technobliterator | Groxkiller98: no free pizza policy supported by a major political group |
| 22:18.27 | Technobliterator | 0/10 |
| 22:18.43 | Charles_Murray | So both parties reversed course and adopted maximalist policies |
| 22:19.11 | Technobliterator | oh, so foreign policy changes more with the times than with the people in power |
| 22:19.20 | Charles_Murray | aye |
| 22:19.33 | Monet | Foreign policy has to be flexible with the universal state of affairs |
| 22:19.33 | Groxkiller98 | Makes sense. |
| 22:19.37 | Wormy_away | I see, well I guessed that might have been what the anchor meant |
| 22:19.44 | Groxkiller98 | Also, screw you, Techno. :P |
| 22:20.20 | Technobliterator | I realise that URO's political parties probably more represent my personal ideal than what may realistically exist |
| 22:20.44 | Groxkiller98 | That's perfectly fine. |
| 22:20.48 | Imperios | Wormy_away: The flag of the city (rather than the oblast that surrounds it) has two anchors: one is for river ships, the other for oceangoing ones |
| 22:20.50 | Monet | Humans alone are messy, messy people with an infinite spectrum of ideas. |
| 22:21.06 | Monet | Imagine when you have hundreds of alien species. |
| 22:21.32 | Wormy_away | googles it |
| 22:21.35 | Technobliterator | I justify the public's attitudes being similar to mine by saying that they're mostly just a reaction to how they basically had zero civil rights under UNO and UNO were authoritarian assholes, but I still realise things may not turn out like URO's parties |
| 22:21.36 | Imperios | Saint-Petersburg is criss-crossed with rivers |
| 22:21.47 | Technobliterator | ie there may not be a Libertarian party that still agrees with social democracy |
| 22:22.08 | Technobliterator | and the warmongering party may normally be more popular |
| 22:22.11 | Wormy_away | Impy: Woa what's this? http://footage.framepool.com/en/shot/345784383-navy-jack-jack-flag-russian-navy-rope-ladder |
| 22:22.22 | Monet | Pax Draconica's non-interventionist clauses in regards to its provinces' political systems were designed to take the diversity into account. |
| 22:22.29 | Imperios | Wormy_away: One of the two Russian naval flags |
| 22:22.42 | Xho | Only Sporewiki can talk about vexillology in such enthusiasm |
| 22:23.11 | Technobliterator | I still want to have a Gangsta candidate for president win at one point |
| 22:23.29 | Technobliterator | by basically having all the other parties be corrupt as fuck and massively disliked |
| 22:23.39 | Technobliterator | so everyone votes for the Gangsta candidate as a protest vote and he actually wins |
| 22:23.41 | Xho | inb4 state dissolution in a week |
| 22:24.02 | Technobliterator | probably nuclear war in a week |
| 22:24.05 | Imperios | Wormy_away: This flag in particular was invented by Peter the Great, perhaps he wanted to show admiration towards the British |
| 22:24.09 | Imperios | *his admiration |
| 22:24.11 | Technobliterator | or the sci fi equivalent of that |
| 22:24.18 | Wormy_away | I must hand it to you, these are awesome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_USSR_navy_flags |
| 22:24.22 | Xho | Hyperspatial war in this here wiki |
| 22:24.31 | Xho | get with the times god damn |
| 22:24.34 | Technobliterator | hyperspatial war yeah |
| 22:24.39 | Monet | The Imperial State cannot reform a province's government outside of extreme circumstances (such as verified evidence of planned secession). As a result, name a form of government and it probably exists in the DI. |
| 22:24.39 | Charles_Murray | Xho: New trait http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
| 22:24.54 | Technobliterator | alright, new fiction idea |
| 22:25.13 | Technobliterator | the Dominion hacks the voting machines for URO to get a Gangsta President to win |
| 22:25.23 | Imperios | Wormy_away: I saw people flying Soviet naval flags during Navy Day last year |
| 22:25.28 | Technobliterator | then the Gangsta President starts a gigaquadrantic scale war |
| 22:25.30 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 22:25.38 | Groxkiller98 | The Dominion is gone now, no? |
| 22:25.39 | Charles_Murray | France - This sounds familiar |
| 22:25.42 | Xho | Technobliterator: Which Dominion are we on about |
| 22:25.44 | Xho | There's three Dominions |
| 22:25.46 | Wormy_away | Imperio: Being based on St Andrew's cross also gives them a common theme |
| 22:25.47 | Technobliterator | of the Xhodocto |
| 22:25.51 | Xho | right |
| 22:25.54 | Xho | Santorakh - MARVELLOUS |
| 22:25.58 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 22:26.19 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Just checked, the red Union Jack-like flag is used when ships are ashore, while the white and blue flag is used when a ship is on duty |
| 22:26.20 | Xho | Charles_Murray: "Everything's burning down around us but at least we've got our diplomacy" |
| 22:26.27 | Groxkiller98 | "Ooh! Ooh! Can I do it for him?" - Every Santorakh cultist ever. |
| 22:26.39 | Charles_Murray | Xho : What trait is that? xD |
| 22:26.41 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Naval_Ensign_of_Russia.svg THis flag is more common |
| 22:26.46 | Xho | Just France in general atm |
| 22:26.55 | Wormy_away | yeah |
| 22:27.04 | Xho | "HOLD IT TOGETHER PEOPLE, HOLD IT TOGETHER" Cyrannus - nah |
| 22:27.19 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 22:27.24 | Charles_Murray | I'm not sure Cyrannus counts |
| 22:27.31 | Imperios | Wormy_away: The red flag is used by Ukrainian separatists however |
| 22:27.48 | Charles_Murray | Because France has 0 involvement there, very little stake in whether the galaxy disappears tomorrow |
| 22:27.51 | Groxkiller98 | Can we not bring real world politics in here? |
| 22:28.02 | Imperios | East Ukraine is mostly Ottoman land conquered by the Russian Navy, so the separatists pay homage to it |
| 22:28.10 | Groxkiller98 | Because I'm VERY strongly opinionated in the way that will piss someone off. |
| 22:28.21 | Xho | Well there will be a Milky Way front though |
| 22:28.23 | Technobliterator | You just described every user here |
| 22:28.24 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 22:28.27 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 22:28.35 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/War_Flag_of_Novorussia_%28Variant%29.svg There you go |
| 22:28.40 | Groxkiller98 | Yes, and I'm pro-Ukrainian freedom. |
| 22:28.43 | Xho | As far as I can gather it's mainly a colossal slug out between Cyrannus, the DCP and the Kicath |
| 22:29.09 | Imperios | It's alright |
| 22:29.13 | Imperios | We aren't going to take all of Ukraine |
| 22:29.19 | Technobliterator | I think URO in the SCGW will actually be their first war |
| 22:29.20 | Imperios | At least |
| 22:29.22 | Imperios | Not right now |
| 22:29.28 | Imperios | The same goes for all of Europe |
| 22:29.57 | Groxkiller98 | I'd call America, but our allies may have just become insane. |
| 22:30.18 | Imperios | YOU'RE ALONE, NOONE WILL SAVE YOU NOW |
| 22:30.32 | Wormy_away | We will never be slaves! |
| 22:30.36 | Groxkiller98 | "France, can you make another Napoleon quickly?" |
| 22:30.55 | Technobliterator | well, I'm not sure Marine Le Pen has the same aspirations as Napoleon |
| 22:30.57 | Xho | http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/let-me-in-dog-i-need-to-go-back-out-again.jpg Meanwhile, the UK |
| 22:30.58 | Imperios | Groxkiller98: His forces will just freeze to days again |
| 22:31.00 | Technobliterator | but there you go |
| 22:31.02 | Imperios | *to death |
| 22:31.10 | Groxkiller98 | Probably... |
| 22:31.25 | Technobliterator | (I suspect Marine Le Pen will win, anyway) |
| 22:31.51 | Groxkiller98 | For the Horde! Lok'tar Ogar! |
| 22:32.14 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.16 | Groxkiller98 | *Charges towards Russia with an overly compensating battle-axe. |
| 22:32.25 | Imperios | But, Russia IS the Horde |
| 22:32.26 | Imperios | >Red |
| 22:32.29 | Imperios | >angry |
| 22:32.35 | Imperios | >nobody likes them |
| 22:32.36 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Putin will smile like these fellas https://youtu.be/jrH77D3fiuk?t=7m3s |
| 22:32.40 | Xho | Monet: I think there is a Milky Way Front stated on the page |
| 22:33.00 | Imperios | >Grom and Guldan are Russian names or words |
| 22:33.07 | Monet | There will be other fronts yes. |
| 22:33.16 | Groxkiller98 | Aren't political memes banned in Russia? |
| 22:33.26 | Monet | But the conflict iirc is primarily Empire vs Republic. |
| 22:33.27 | Groxkiller98 | And anything pro-LBGT? |
| 22:33.28 | Technobliterator | SCGW will probably be the biggest war on the wiki for a good while |
| 22:33.31 | Xho | Well yeah |
| 22:33.47 | Imperios | Groxkiller98: >Aren't political memes banned in Russia? |
| 22:33.53 | Imperios | Nope |
| 22:33.55 | Xho | In-universe terms the Kicath won't try their hand in Cyrannus because it's a strategic deathtrap |
| 22:34.00 | Groxkiller98 | Huh. |
| 22:34.04 | Imperios | I think there is, in theory, a ban, but nobody even cares about it |
| 22:34.05 | Groxkiller98 | AFK now. |
| 22:34.11 | Imperios | Pro-LGBT, depends on the place |
| 22:34.22 | Monet | Xho: I think that's the thing. |
| 22:34.41 | Xho | Empire - you're welcome to try you'll die but you're still welcome to |
| 22:34.54 | Technobliterator | I would laugh if the Empire wins the war |
| 22:34.59 | Monet | The Cyrannian front is likely going to be Republic vs Empire, with the Republic bringing the occasional friend. |
| 22:35.05 | Technobliterator | everyone is expecting the Republic to win and for people to be all happy with Cyrannus again |
| 22:35.10 | Technobliterator | then lolnope Empire landslide |
| 22:35.43 | Xho | Angazhar - https://youtu.be/kXXTMcYvKoE?t=40s |
| 22:36.16 | Imperios | Technobliterator: The Empire should remain I think |
| 22:36.23 | Imperios | I mean it IS present |
| 22:36.28 | Imperios | In that future story about the Xeranbha |
| 22:37.02 | Xho | Ultimately I don't think the Empire will ever be truly destroyed |
| 22:37.26 | Xho | Much like how the Congregation was never destroyed (although there's endless divine influences therE) |
| 22:37.31 | Xho | Wow my keyboard sucks |
| 22:38.02 | Wormy_away | The DCP and Empire could kick each other out of their galactic turf, but would fail in uprooting each other |
| 22:38.05 | Technobliterator | I think Cyrannian will troll us and the Empire will win |
| 22:38.21 | Monet | It's easy to invade and devastate a nation. Much harder to outright destroy it. |
| 22:38.35 | Imperios | Monet: However the Empire has one focal point: Tyro |
| 22:40.11 | Monet | Imperios: Dictatorships are often felled by cutting the head off. |
| 22:40.13 | Wormy_ | I think the most dangerous power in the Gigaquadrant is of course the New Congregation |
| 22:40.15 | Monet | Yes |
| 22:40.37 | Imperios | Wormy_: Well not necessarily, the USSR for example was an oligarchy |
| 22:40.46 | Imperios | It did not rely on a single ruler |
| 22:40.56 | Wormy_ | Hm? |
| 22:41.39 | Imperios | oh wait no |
| 22:41.43 | Imperios | that was directed to Moent, sorry |
| 22:41.45 | Imperios | Monet even |
| 22:41.51 | Monet | OKay. |
| 22:41.57 | Monet | Autocratic dictatorships |
| 22:43.22 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 22:43.44 | Xho | The Dominion is a sleeping giant |
| 22:44.07 | Xho | The great difficult of waking such a giant is finding the right momentum |
| 22:44.12 | Xho | difficulty |
| 22:44.35 | Wormy_ | "And then the Dominion Attacks" |
| 22:44.55 | Wormy_ | But seriously, if/when they do I think it's need the whole Gigaquadrant to rally together again |
| 22:45.12 | Monet | The Empire appears to advocate armies and agents possessing absolute unwavering loyalty to the emperor. |
| 22:46.22 | Wormy_ | When some dictatorhips fall, the next in line in steps in, like the military |
| 22:46.34 | Wormy_ | or simply userp control |
| 22:47.07 | Wormy_ | I think we could see an Empire without Tyro |
| 22:47.22 | Imperios | Yeah but who's the next in liner |
| 22:47.27 | Imperios | Thaur? Caesarius? |
| 22:47.30 | Imperios | *line |
| 22:47.38 | Imperios | Venatorius? |
| 22:48.20 | Monet | When loyalty to a certain individual is at a fanatic level, what happens to that individual when their idol/leader dies? |
| 22:48.33 | Xho | Usually go mad |
| 22:48.36 | Wormy_ | quite possibly |
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| 22:50.35 | Imperios | Monet: People were crying when Stalin's cult of personality was denounced |
| 22:51.05 | Imperios | Thing is the Empire will be thrown into dissaray by an initial struggle for power, though it will be mostly amongst the remaining Mornies I suppose |
| 22:51.26 | Imperios | Actually I wonder if a mortal politician can challenge an ordinary Mornendur |
| 22:51.26 | Monet | In a logical scenario, the Empire without Tyro could be more dangerous than when he was leading it. |
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| 22:52.20 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:52.21 | Xho | Cyrannian|away: get bak heer |
| 22:52.31 | Imperios | Monet: "Without its master's command, the restless Empire will become an even greater threat to the Gigaquadrant. Control must be maintained." |
| 22:52.37 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 22:53.40 | Xho | Imperios: inb4 the Corruptus assimilate the Empire's government |
| 22:53.51 | Imperios | That was a WoW reference |
| 22:54.22 | Xho | I gathered |
| 22:54.29 | Xho | I just put forward a ridiculous suggestion |
| 22:54.42 | Wormy_ | Not so |
| 22:55.06 | Xho | If the Corrptus assimilated the Empire's government the Gigaquadrant would be in seriously bad juju |
| 22:55.16 | Xho | It would be War of Ages level bad juju |
| 22:55.45 | Monet | Imperios: Thing is according to theeir section, Imperial stormtroopers are conditioned to show a nigh-unwavering loyalty to the Empire. |
| 22:55.49 | Wormy_ | Its been suggested if NK falls, China will turn it into a administrative region and possibly put one of the Kims back in charge |
| 22:56.05 | Imperios | fuk plz |
| 22:56.14 | Imperios | Make it a jointly governed region for a while, like Germany was |
| 22:56.28 | Monet | So much of the frontline Imperial army sounds like an army of fanatics. |
| 22:56.53 | Imperios | Say Russia governs Pyongan, China governs the Western part and South Korea the immediate vicinity of the 37 parallel |
| 22:56.55 | Imperios | 38 even |
| 22:57.47 | Imperios | Monet: Tyromairon dies and Librae's spirit appears next to him |
| 22:57.54 | Imperios | "Beloved one... is it over?" |
| 22:58.06 | Monet | Lol. |
| 22:58.24 | Xho | Thought just entered my head |
| 22:58.31 | Xho | What is the canon fate of the Tigris Galaxy |
| 22:58.36 | Xho | I don't actually remember |
| 22:58.48 | Monet | Wasn't it destroyed? |
| 22:58.49 | Liquid_Ink | Isn't it still there, but we don't go there? |
| 22:59.17 | Xho | As far as I recall the idea was that Zhuleshxi did destroy it but that wasn't universally decided |
| 22:59.25 | Imperios | I wrote that it was "scoured of life" |
| 22:59.32 | Imperios | Back in 2009 when I added the war infobox |
| 23:00.44 | Wormy_ | I would prefer it if Tigris still exists |
| 23:01.00 | Wormy_ | Maybe its hard to reach due to demonic rifts or something |
| 23:01.10 | Wormy_ | and of course rendered lifeless |
| 23:01.24 | Xho | Could be an idea |
| 23:01.33 | Xho | Perhaps it turned into a Schism Galaxy like half of Tuuros is |
| 23:01.45 | Wormy_ | There's also the issue with Phradox |
| 23:01.58 | Xho | same thing lol |
| 23:02.00 | Xho | kill everyone |
| 23:02.30 | Liquid_Ink | Phradox just sits there unused |
| 23:02.31 | Monet | Phradox existed until the Obvia'atra announced out of the blue that they'd destroy it |
| 23:02.43 | Xho | Actually the idea of a Zhulultu Scourge Device corrupting a galaxy into unnatural disrepair like Tuuros is makes a lot of sense |
| 23:02.45 | Xho | I propose that |
| 23:02.53 | Liquid_Ink | But the Gigaquadrant page lists Phradox as still existing |
| 23:04.04 | Liquid_Ink | Apparently Wormy and Cyrannian revived it, and then it faded back into obscurity again. |
| 23:05.03 | Xho | bah |
| 23:05.38 | Liquid_Ink | I killed him |
| 23:07.16 | Xho | Wormy_: " Quite why the Xhodocto would create a being of pure rationality and logic is unknown" Krathazhrukhal tho |
| 23:08.13 | Ghelae | My thought with that was: so illogical beings making a logical being is problematic because it's... illogical? |
| 23:08.54 | Wormy_ | Xhodocto - well that's our middle finger to yo logic |
| 23:09.03 | Ghelae | As for Phradox, it apparently still exists but needs to be revived, again. Tigris, nobody knows. |
| 23:09.53 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Phradox_Galaxy - "At one time, the Phradox Galaxy faded into inactivity before efforts from Wormy and Cyrannian brought it back into activity." news to me |
| 23:10.14 | Wormy_ | I don't recall bringing it back to activity? |
| 23:10.25 | Ghelae | realises Liquid_Ink already mentioned that five minutes ago |
| 23:10.35 | Liquid_Ink | is a hipster. |
| 23:10.40 | Xho | "To place colonies in this galaxy, simply ask, here" |
| 23:10.42 | Xho | >red link |
| 23:10.46 | Xho | Xhodocto - you're welcome |
| 23:10.55 | Ghelae | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Phradox_Galaxy?limit=500&action=history I've no idea when it happened. |
| 23:11.01 | Liquid_Ink | Colony request of the damned. |
| 23:11.15 | Ghelae | But I'm guessing it was 2011, before the page was made. |
| 23:11.57 | Wormy_ | I think Liquid has some ideas for it? |
| 23:12.31 | Liquid_Ink | I just wanted to make an empire or two there. That could easily be relocated to the Milky Way if people want Phradox gone. |
| 23:13.00 | Wormy_ | I thought you wanted to turn it into a horror-filled galaxy |
| 23:14.42 | Liquid_Ink | That was just a vague suggestion |
| 23:15.47 | Ghelae | I'm sure somebody recently mentioned something about Xanthrus too. |
| 23:17.10 | Wormy_ | I imagine that is non-existent now |
| 23:17.27 | Ghelae | It's not even on the locations page. As a dead galaxy. |
| 23:18.32 | Liquid_Ink | I was wondering how to rectify the Vermulans going from a potential superpower to being totally wiped out by the DCP in three years, and I suggested that the bulk of their territories existed in the galaxies destroyed by the Annihilation. |
| 23:18.41 | Ghelae | Yes, that was it. |
| 23:20.17 | Ghelae | I think the issue might have been that, while the Obvia'Atra might be canon but dead, the CoreFed etc. were retconned out. Or where they? Does anybody know? |
| 23:22.05 | Ghelae | If they were, then their galaxies would have been too, with the exception of Phradox which found another use. And that is presumably why Phradox is listed but Xanthrus and other galaxies are not. |
| 23:22.06 | Xho | Dunno lol, they're dead |
| 23:23.01 | Liquid_Ink | I think the reason the Xanthrus galaxies aren't listed is because they were destroyed |
| 23:23.18 | Liquid_Ink | Doesn't the Gigaquadrant page only list intact galaxies? |
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| 23:23.40 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 23:23.45 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 23:23.49 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 23:24.10 | Xho | Liquid_Ink: yes |
| 23:24.27 | Ghelae | Yes, but I was thinking of the locations page. |
| 23:24.42 | Ghelae | Granted, the Gigaquadrant page is probably a more reliable resource. |
| 23:25.23 | Liquid_Ink | Of course, the Gigaquadrant page needs updating |
| 23:25.48 | Ghelae | Kraw and Tuuros, and ambiguously-extant galaxies like Tigris, are missing. |
| 23:26.09 | Liquid_Ink | Yes. |
| 23:26.11 | Imperios | Why sohuld we retcon them though |
| 23:26.17 | Liquid_Ink | Also, the Magellanic clouds |
| 23:26.19 | Imperios | They are not that much of a problem |
| 23:26.31 | Liquid_Ink | What are we retconning? |
| 23:26.51 | Xho | add tuuros den |
| 23:26.55 | Xho | I should really |
| 23:27.01 | Xho | I'm bad at this |
| 23:27.42 | Ghelae | I don't think the Xanthrus galaxies were retconned out with any kind of effort; they just had their canonicity ignored. |
| 23:28.51 | Liquid_Ink | Wasn't the whole point of the annihilation that Xanthrus existed, but the Xhodocto destroyed them? |
| 23:28.51 | Xho | Possibly |
| 23:29.09 | Ghelae | The Annihilation wasn't about Xanthrus, there are plenty of other destroyed galaxies. But Annihilation + Xanthrus implies Xanthrus was destroyed, yes. |
| 23:29.10 | Xho | The Annihilation needs to be redone anyway |
| 23:29.26 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15936580_1222864441140594_5433925681154549294_o.jpg?oh=33d96fa11850493dee880c5edc66e05e&oe=58E653AA |
| 23:29.57 | Liquid_Ink | I didn't mean that the annihilation revolved around Xanthrus, but that galaxies and useless fiction like Xanthrus was the point of the Annihilation |
| 23:30.31 | Ghelae | Kind of. The main point was for Xho to kill stuff. |
| 23:32.17 | Liquid_Ink | I remember massive debates between removing the cluttered fiction being a retcon or an in-universe destruction, and we went with the in-universe destruction. |
| 23:32.17 | Ghelae | But seriously, yes, that was a major aim. Making and emphasising a "don't make entire galaxies for your single empire with like 20 systems" point. |
| 23:32.23 | Xho | heh |
| 23:33.08 | Liquid_Ink | Yes, that was an issue. Along with Mushrum making ten galaxies for the Core Federation because why not |
| 23:33.38 | Ghelae | e.g. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xanthra_Quadrant |
| 23:34.12 | Xho | Tuuros being M82 is pretty uncanon by now I think |
| 23:34.23 | Xho | Tuuros is a lenticular galaxy now |
| 23:34.55 | Xho | And I believe it's in the Ikiwa Eropsii Cluster now because stuff happened |
| 23:35.07 | Ghelae | Yes, that doesn't fit. If I find a better match, or decide it doesn't fit any real galaxy at all, I'll edit it. For now, I just wanted to add a link and say it's still around. |
| 23:36.31 | Monet | hello |
| 23:37.34 | Ghelae | If people want to reestablish the canon of Xanthrus (and whatever other galaxies might be hiding away somewhere), we can do so. There are quite a few unused real-world galaxies in the local part of the universe they could be identified with, too. |
| 23:38.03 | Ghelae | But I think of our fictions have been edited to the point that they no longer have any trace of the CoreFed interacting with them. |
| 23:38.10 | Liquid_Ink | I don't want Xanthrus existing again, I want them to *have* existed and have been destroyed in the annihilation. |
| 23:38.19 | Ghelae | That's what I mean. |
| 23:38.41 | Ghelae | But we'd need to figure out the CoreFed's place in history, or decide to remove them. |
| 23:38.59 | Liquid_Ink | Though I could move my idea for it to other galaxies destroyed in the annihilation if people want the Core Federation removed |
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| 23:40.18 | Ghelae | Well, I'm going to go now. Let me know if any decision is made when I return. |
| 23:40.20 | Ghelae | Bye! |
| 23:40.56 | Liquid_Ink | So anyone got any thoughts on the matter? |
| 23:41.13 | Xho | kill them all |
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| 23:43.40 | DrodoEmpire | edge |
| 23:44.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 23:44.16 | DrodoEmpire | When the Drodo Empire becomes a monarchy, I wonder if I should rename some things |
| 23:44.35 | Xho | -> Drodo Kingdom |
| 23:44.40 | DrodoEmpire | i.e "Imperial Navy" -> "Royal navy" |
| 23:44.44 | DrodoEmpire | Probably not though |
| 23:44.49 | DrodoEmpire | Empire is the superior title |
| 23:45.04 | Xho | >HIT THE FUCKING DECK |
| 23:45.09 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:45.11 | Liquid_Ink | Just make the monarch an emperor. |
| 23:45.22 | DrodoEmpire | *Possibly* |
| 23:45.48 | DrodoEmpire | Depends on if he inherits the defunct royal titles or not |
| 23:46.07 | DrodoEmpire | If he does, then he'd be king of many things and best described as an emperor |
| 23:46.19 | Xho | >HIT THE FUCKING DECK |
| 23:46.29 | Liquid_Ink | Well, emperors are kings of kings |
| 23:46.46 | Liquid_Ink | hits the deck with severe confusion. |
| 23:47.04 | Imperios | Yes give the Drodo a King of Kings |
| 23:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | (the defunct titles I'm referring to being the titles of the old Drodo nations pre-unification, which still legally exist, but have little value beyond their immense prestige) |
| 23:47.23 | DrodoEmpire | (It also doesn't help that many of them are held by the Drodo equivalent of the Habsburgs) |
| 23:47.38 | Liquid_Ink | Maybe the establishment of the monarchy entails dusting off these old titles and using them? |
| 23:47.58 | DrodoEmpire | That's probably what its gonna be |
| 23:48.34 | DrodoEmpire | The aforementioned Drodo-Habsburgs are probably going to be the ones to become the royal family anyhow |
| 23:49.18 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta thought about using the Jiviriks as their already established in-canon, buuut... |
| 23:49.29 | Imperios | >Drodo-Habsburgs |
| 23:49.37 | Imperios | Great, anteater people incest |
| 23:49.40 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:49.51 | Imperios | anteatercest |
| 23:49.55 | Imperios | Ancest |
| 23:49.56 | Imperios | Anzest |
| 23:50.05 | Imperios | There got a name for this new royal houser |
| 23:50.10 | Imperios | house |
| 23:50.15 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:51.30 | NeonPanda | y'know, playing Titanfall makes me wonder if there's some similar force of mechanised mercenaries in the gigaquadrant |
| 23:52.17 | Xho | You mean like mechs |
| 23:52.45 | Xho | I can't really imagine something like a Tier 2 or Tier 1 version of it |
| 23:53.13 | NeonPanda | all the tech exhibited in titanfall already exists in-universe so it isn't exactly unfeasible |
| 23:53.21 | Xho | Well no |
| 23:53.36 | Xho | I'm just wondering why hyperspatial nations would use it |
| 23:54.15 | DrodoEmpire | Because planetside combat is still essential |
| 23:54.21 | Liquid_Ink | And it's cool |
| 23:54.41 | DrodoEmpire | And mechs, as much as a give them shit, would be good shock troops |
| 23:54.56 | DrodoEmpire | At least for shocks to morale |
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