00:00.28 | Wormy_ | Ronnie was a good character she kept killing off so many people |
00:00.59 | Xho | And then |
00:01.03 | Xho | She killed off herself |
00:01.04 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Also they did this weird scene where thewy both looked in a mirror, and there was no reflection |
00:01.09 | Xho | 10/10 most consistent character |
00:02.18 | Wormy_ | God there's so many dumb tweets |
00:03.53 | Cyrannian | night folks |
00:03.57 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
00:05.08 | Wormy_ | HAAH HAH people going "fuk 2016" |
00:05.19 | Wormy_ | Its 2017 now |
00:13.44 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
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00:14.11 | The_Randomness | Hello |
00:17.03 | Xho | Hi |
00:20.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
00:28.06 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/x1WDMFk.jpg <.< |
00:28.17 | Xho | hoh |
00:56.34 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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01:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
02:14.28 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#BREAKING:_Cesterity_Isordon_severely_wounded_amid_fighting |
02:35.52 | Monet | Ouch. |
02:35.54 | Monet | Not good |
02:44.21 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:44.45 | DrodoEmpire | Responses would be cool :3 |
02:45.05 | Monet | Tomorrow, getting late for me |
02:46.24 | DrodoEmpire | kk cool |
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03:02.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
03:03.11 | tcm | hi |
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03:25.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
03:31.03 | Tybusen | Hello |
03:37.08 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: Do you think "Adriana Commerce League" would be a good name for a criminal/pirate organization that tries to have a somewhat-legitimate public face? |
03:37.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah sure |
03:38.01 | Tybusen | Ok thanks |
03:38.05 | DrodoEmpire | Its both respectable and vague, which is perfect |
03:41.59 | Tybusen | Yeah, everyone knows that the org is pretty much a gigantic criminal syndicate, but publicly they insist that they're just a legitimate trade league that just happens to also "protect" local commerce |
03:42.48 | tcm | think "greater east asia co-prosperity sphere" |
03:42.56 | Tybusen | "Protection racket? You mean like the ones you play tennis with?" |
03:43.41 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
03:44.12 | Tybusen | They're supposed to be more like a widespread mafia/yakuza sort of org with some piracy thrown in, less of a Co-Prosperity Sphere which was the "legitimate face" for Imperial Japan |
03:45.40 | Tybusen | I'm thinking of developing the Adriana Nebula setting that I have sitting in orbit of Bunsen, making it into a tough frontier land with plenty of pirates, mercenaries, greedy entrepreneurs, and salt-of-the-earth folk (you know, idiots) |
03:47.48 | DrodoEmpire | Sounds cool |
03:48.15 | DrodoEmpire | Might be interested in having a char or two visit that |
03:49.33 | tcm | plenty of opportunity for adventure |
03:49.59 | Tybusen | There are some TIAF and GSC colonies on the edge of the nebula, which is where most of the intrigue would happen |
03:51.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah probably |
03:51.18 | DrodoEmpire | The story I'm writing is basically setting up a new character for me to use anyway, so it should be cool |
03:51.27 | DrodoEmpire | Speaking of which I may wanna make a page for Ulran soon |
03:53.31 | Tybusen | Yeah, feel free to have some stories involving the Nebula once I set it up and stuff |
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04:01.04 | DrodoEmpire | kk cool |
04:02.50 | tcm | any way to subdivide table cells |
04:03.39 | DrodoEmpire | You'd have to ask Charles or Tech or somebody else familiar with that |
04:03.48 | DrodoEmpire | I steal their code <.< |
04:04.41 | tcm | me too |
04:06.53 | tcm | what are some good examples of "government" sections |
04:09.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
04:09.49 | DrodoEmpire | I wanna say mine |
04:09.52 | DrodoEmpire | But ehh |
04:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire#Government - In terms of layout its OK I guess |
04:10.45 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AFrench_Empire#Politics_and_government - Obligatory, at this point |
04:11.04 | DrodoEmpire | Considering it was written by a bona fide political scientist <.< |
04:15.33 | tcm | what's the next step down from a federated state |
04:15.51 | DrodoEmpire | In terms of centralisation you mean? |
04:16.05 | DrodoEmpire | A confederacy, I believe |
04:16.45 | DrodoEmpire | In a confederacy membership is optional |
04:16.59 | DrodoEmpire | Which inherently makes the state less centralised |
04:18.14 | tcm | oh i mean in terms of government |
04:18.25 | tcm | what are federated states made of |
04:19.12 | DrodoEmpire | A federated state is made up of smaller provinces or statelets which're under the jurisdiction of a federal government |
04:19.16 | DrodoEmpire | Or so I believe |
04:19.46 | DrodoEmpire | Places like Canada, USA, and Germany are federal states, and I believe also federations technically speaking |
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04:50.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
05:06.41 | DrodoEmpire | "I'm gonna retreat and make music now. I know exactly where i want to go next." |
05:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | Madeon's actually seriously working on new stuff for 2017 |
05:06.56 | DrodoEmpire | Fucking yes |
05:07.24 | DrodoEmpire | Adventure and Shelter were already gold, can't wait for new stuff |
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05:08.29 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
05:08.54 | The_Randomness | Hey |
05:10.18 | DrodoEmpire | How're you? |
05:11.18 | The_Randomness | doing well, think my cold is almost gone (finally) |
05:12.26 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, good good |
05:14.39 | DrodoEmpire | I'm pretty pleased, myself |
05:14.49 | DrodoEmpire | Madeon's all-but confirmed new music for 2017 |
05:15.03 | The_Randomness | nice |
05:15.22 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1CUwXgWIAAb_75.jpg - new profile pic? <.< |
05:15.52 | The_Randomness | seems pretty lit |
05:15.57 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
05:16.14 | DrodoEmpire | Malik Obama is a living meme, and the greatest meme |
05:16.21 | The_Randomness | I've heard |
05:19.45 | tcm | is that spongebob behind all that |
05:20.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
05:21.06 | DrodoEmpire | Also I decided on this https://i.redd.it/c3ttaagekyex.png because I should save my spiciest memes for later <.< |
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05:28.59 | tcm | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:The_Collective_Mind/Motive/SocietyB working on the in-depth articles |
05:29.32 | DrodoEmpire | Cool stuff, I'll take a look |
05:30.19 | DrodoEmpire | Also I may've asked before, but why not use the regular fiction namespace? |
05:31.19 | tcm | i like to put all my wip stuff in userpages first |
05:31.31 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, fair enough |
05:36.51 | DrodoEmpire | I can't get over how there can be an vaguely-country acoustic cover of an EDM track that's actually really good o.O |
05:37.59 | tcm | for a moment i misread that the other way around |
05:38.11 | tcm | cyber-country music |
05:38.14 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
05:38.50 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, there's electro swing |
05:38.55 | tcm | true |
05:45.47 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9S8smnDeG8&index=3&list=PLv8L-0idu1AaSql4CxENh6WJiBWIwLXbs - There's an entire playlist xD |
05:46.15 | DrodoEmpire | (Also-- the track that comes up was the one I was mentioning) |
05:46.50 | DrodoEmpire | There's another good one on there I liked, which is an acoustic rendition of "The City" by Madeon |
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07:45.56 | Dillonator407 | hello |
07:47.12 | Dillonator407 | nobody here atm? |
07:49.51 | Liquid_Ink | This is drowsy hour, I think. |
07:50.14 | Dillonator407 | ah hi probably |
07:50.27 | Dillonator407 | i'm in an unusual time zone for most i suppose |
07:53.37 | Dillonator407 | i have to go now |
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09:27.07 | Wormy_ | hi |
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09:36.20 | Treebeard | Hello |
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11:00.28 | Ghelae | Hello. |
11:08.02 | Treebeard | Hello |
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11:33.50 | NeonPanda | hi all |
11:46.43 | Imperios | Wormy Charles_Bot: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/30/no-us-carrier-at-sea-leaves-gap-in-middle-east.html >copious deficiency of freedom |
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12:18.18 | NeonPanda | hi all |
12:18.24 | NeonPanda | internet is going to be very spotty tonight |
12:21.25 | Treebeard | Hello |
12:27.55 | Ghelae | Hi |
13:00.06 | Wormy_ | bbs |
13:18.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ah fuck, missed Dillonator |
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13:41.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
14:32.52 | DrodoEmpire | I get that its early, but it seems like nobody's on |
14:35.06 | Ghelae | ~give DrodoEmpire a cookie |
14:35.07 | infobot | ACTION gives DrodoEmpire a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up. |
14:35.11 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
14:35.13 | Ghelae | You're right; it's exceptionally quiet right now. |
14:35.55 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, it could be a matter of it being the first day back to school or work for some people, I dunno |
14:35.58 | DrodoEmpire | Just odd |
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14:36.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
14:37.31 | Monet | hi |
14:44.03 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Silvan_Megastructural_Culture - Those rock-throwing natives on New Aratacia had some very grand origins indeed |
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14:45.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
14:45.16 | Hachiman | Hi |
14:46.40 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Silvan_Megastructural_Culture - Those rock-throwing natives on New Aratacia had some very grand origins indeed |
14:46.46 | DrodoEmpire | (For Hachi) |
14:50.11 | Hachiman | Funnily enough |
14:50.26 | Hachiman | I actually saw that as the first thing on the Recent Changes when I turned the PC on |
14:50.32 | Hachiman | And had it open before you linked me |
14:51.24 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh cool |
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14:52.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hey tek |
14:52.58 | Hachiman | That's some pretty interesting lore for the Silvans |
14:53.10 | Hachiman | I get reminded of 40k's Dark Age of Technology |
14:53.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
14:55.39 | Hachiman | Basically a barely-documented era in humanity's history where they were a highly-advanced spacefaring culture that established multitudes of colonies and settlements throughout the galaxy before Warp stuff happened and humanity became divided and regressed culturally and technologically |
14:55.54 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, right |
14:56.02 | Hachiman | Technology and information was lost and whatnot |
14:56.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I had a few inspirations like that, such as the Classical Mayan civilisation |
14:56.47 | DrodoEmpire | Which was also an advanced culture that collapsed due to population pressure, and regressed culturally and technologically to tribal living |
14:56.59 | Hachiman | Really? |
14:57.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
14:57.03 | Imperios | Yep |
14:57.17 | Imperios | By the time the Spanish Empire came their city states were already in heavy decline |
14:57.22 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
14:57.24 | Imperios | Their peak was like in the 700s or somethung |
14:57.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
14:57.40 | Hachiman | Huh |
14:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | I also wanted to explore the idea among some scientists and scifi authors that it might be more likely that spacefaring civilisations would instead stick close to their home system, and make it as habitable as possible instead of fanning out and building a colonial empire |
14:58.49 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps the Silvan didn't invent FTL until much later? Or lacked the resouces in their homesystem to power such a drive? I dunno |
14:59.27 | Hachiman | Could just be that they didn't feel like it was necessary |
14:59.29 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I like how their civilisation fell due to natural means, through a demographic crisis, rather than due to some mysterious cataclysm |
14:59.40 | Imperios | Like most of our precursors |
14:59.43 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
14:59.58 | DrodoEmpire | Its more convincing and for someone like me whose interested in history, more interesting |
15:00.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: That's true, perhaps by the time it became easy to do FTL they were simply too invested in living in a megastructural, post-scarcity society |
15:01.10 | Hachiman | I'm assuming that the ancient Silvans were aware of the existence of aliens and whatnot |
15:02.22 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, but they almost never engaged in any diplomacy or foreign relations at all |
15:02.47 | DrodoEmpire | Due to the Neutrality Zone being more or less unpopulated, and them being one of the only interstellar cultures around |
15:02.47 | Hachiman | Maybe there was some fear that FTL drive would only pave a path wrought with alien influence - which, for the ancient Silvan, could have been negative no matter whether the intentions are good or not |
15:03.03 | DrodoEmpire | Well, they *were* intensely xenophobic |
15:04.10 | Hachiman | Interesting that they were xenophobes yet did not feel it necessary to serve as conquerors and whatnot |
15:04.18 | Hachiman | Also bbs lunch |
15:05.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, they were xenophobic insofar that they were very aloof and felt that they were the height of civilisation |
15:05.52 | DrodoEmpire | They felt no need to actually spread such civilisation to others |
15:09.47 | Imperios | So like Trump? |
15:10.14 | DrodoEmpire | Well, a better analogy might be the Ancient Chinese >.< |
15:10.19 | DrodoEmpire | Though they too built a wall... |
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15:27.31 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPi7ddhzGH0 |
15:27.40 | OluapPlayer | Seen |
15:28.18 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Oluap |
15:31.08 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
15:36.53 | Monet | hI |
15:48.19 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/monty-hall-problems |
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15:51.37 | Treebeard | Hello |
15:57.41 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
16:00.08 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Silvan_Megastructural_Culture#Culture_and_Society - Got this done(?) |
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16:02.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
16:02.14 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
16:02.39 | Treebeard | Hello |
16:03.26 | OluapPlayer | ~destroy Cyrannian |
16:03.27 | infobot | no |
16:04.43 | DrodoEmpire | tl;dr the ancient Silvan, due to a variety of factors which included historical and astrogeographical circumstance, largely subscribed to a few major tenets which included their own exceptionalism and a heavy belief in deterministic ideas such as fate and destiny and a subsequent doubtfulness of things such as free will and true randomness |
16:05.00 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
16:05.00 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
16:07.42 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose the irony of that whole section is that I use a pretty deterministic explanation of why they came to believe what they did <.< |
16:08.16 | DrodoEmpire | Granted I tend to lean in that direction a bit more anyway but the Silvan took it to an extreme in-fiction |
16:08.47 | Imperios | Monet: Remaking the relationships page for the Divinarium, should I go with the old emoticon system |
16:08.52 | Imperios | Or the baguette system of coloured boxes |
16:09.03 | DrodoEmpire | Use the emoji system <.< |
16:09.44 | Imperios | As in you know what we used back when we weren't pretentious |
16:10.01 | DrodoEmpire | Right >.< |
16:10.07 | DrodoEmpire | Eh either are good |
16:12.01 | Monet | The old system is fairly straightforward |
16:12.18 | Monet | Deals and history and such could be for the mroe detailed relations page. |
16:12.37 | Cyrannian | So, the featured articles for January are: Church of Spode, Valkistair, Battle of Light and Dark and the Ugandalorians |
16:13.32 | Hachiman | Congrats to them |
16:14.37 | OluapPlayer | rite |
16:15.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
16:15.14 | DrodoAway | bbs |
16:15.21 | Cyrannian | Treebeard: What was the mainspace article you suggested? |
16:15.39 | OluapPlayer | Spore Origins iirc |
16:16.03 | Treebeard | Yes |
16:30.22 | Imperios | >Church of Spode |
16:30.36 | Imperios | Comeback from 7 years |
16:31.08 | Imperios | You didn't add a link to the page u |
16:32.28 | Cyrannian | Whoops, that's been known to happen with the code |
16:32.57 | Cyrannian | dere |
16:36.25 | Imperios | yiyiy |
16:37.39 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: moov story |
16:38.22 | Cyrannian | Indeed, planning on it later in the evening |
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17:25.04 | Monet | Evening |
17:27.50 | dino82_ | Good evening! |
17:27.59 | dino82_ | Everyone recoverd from the change of new year? |
17:32.54 | dino82_ | Oh massive update to the Divinarium! |
17:32.55 | dino82_ | Naice! |
17:35.44 | Imperios | Yeah I'm almost done |
17:35.50 | dino82_ | Nice updates |
17:35.58 | dino82_ | and relation section! Interessting :P |
17:43.16 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium#Individuals Wait what the fuck is wrong with this |
17:43.22 | Imperios | Am I the only person who sees a lot of rat crotches |
17:44.41 | Hachiman | Oh God |
17:44.45 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
17:45.03 | OluapPlayer | The Donginarium |
17:46.33 | OluapPlayer | You set the gallery to have all pics use the same size, that's your problem |
17:47.49 | Imperios | There fixed |
17:53.24 | dino82_ | @Imperios: Radeon Supremacy!!!! |
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18:07.51 | Imperios | dino82_: Ma'fest's wet dream |
18:08.09 | dino82_ | lol |
18:08.10 | Imperios | Oddly enough I've never thought if there were any speciecist tendencies among Radeons |
18:08.37 | Imperios | Religious exceptionalism yes, but like are there are any Radeons who think that Radeons are better than other species |
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18:11.03 | Jepardi | Hi |
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18:26.33 | Tek0516 | Hey Charles |
18:35.22 | Imperios | Hm, guys |
18:35.26 | Imperios | I've been wondering |
18:36.31 | Imperios | I'm currently writing a trivia section for the Divinarium, and there's one thing that I kind of wanted to write there: that the Divinarium has a rather heteronormative culture which raises eyebrows amongst foreigners |
18:36.51 | OluapPlayer | What's that mean? |
18:37.15 | Imperios | Like homophobic, but... less proactive/hateful or something. When you believe that straight is the norm and should be adhered to |
18:37.45 | Imperios | Now, thing is, should I write about this? Like, this seems in-character, and I kind of never touched on that subject really as far as the Divinarium is concerned, but would it kind of make them look unsympathetic? |
18:38.41 | OluapPlayer | If it's part of their society, write it |
18:38.54 | OluapPlayer | Every empire's got their bad features |
18:40.01 | Imperios | Also it'd be kind of funny/ironic, considering Radeon males are all either anime pretty boys or Catholic priests |
18:40.58 | OluapPlayer | >Geltastra is a turbolesbian >becomes a demon |
18:41.03 | OluapPlayer | Iovera - dats not a coincidence people |
18:41.10 | DrodoEmpire | I mean |
18:41.19 | DrodoEmpire | Straight *is* the norm, biologically speaking |
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18:42.01 | Imperios | Well, technically, so is having black hair |
18:42.10 | DrodoEmpire | A species where it wasn't wouldn't last terribly long |
18:42.13 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heteronormativity There we go |
18:43.08 | DrodoEmpire | Right, so basically a society that only accepts straight people and relationships |
18:43.27 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vyutrin have a Spinker character |
18:44.00 | Imperios | We're talking if I could state that holyrats are these |
18:44.55 | DrodoEmpire | Uh, of course |
18:45.18 | DrodoEmpire | Its your fiction after all, and every society has flaws such as homophobia |
18:46.00 | Imperios | Would make sense |
18:46.45 | OluapPlayer | Not any more controversial than the Spinkers being extremely antitheistic |
18:53.26 | Imperios | Now I just thought of something |
18:54.12 | Imperios | With its heteronormativity, the Divinarium could have a strong tradition of romantic friendship (e.g. bromance), like in Victorian England |
18:54.55 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps yeah |
18:55.00 | Imperios | Like, for example, it would be seen as normal for two girls to be really devoted to each other or maybe even share a quick kiss, and it won't even be seen as something *sexual* |
18:55.11 | Imperios | Though once that line is breached, everyone would be like "dafuk" |
18:55.14 | Imperios | *will |
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18:55.54 | Monet | hi |
18:56.13 | Imperios | >mentioned gay people |
18:56.15 | Imperios | >Monet appears |
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18:56.18 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno, Drodo are pretty much the opposite in that most Drodo people are moderately bisexual-- its not seen as unusual for young people to have same-sex relationships, though its usually expected that they'll marry someone of the opposite sex a bit later on |
18:56.22 | Imperios | >ZF101 appears |
18:56.24 | Imperios | Hi |
18:56.32 | DrodoEmpire | fagits <.< |
18:56.48 | OluapPlayer | drodo mor like dongo |
18:56.57 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
18:56.58 | Imperios | The Coalition I imagine has an Ancient Greek-ish view of sexuality |
18:57.06 | Imperios | As in, think Sparta/Sacred Band of Thebes |
18:57.19 | Imperios | The NTA, I made an entire section about their relationships |
18:57.25 | Imperios | Well only the Tertanai |
18:58.32 | OluapPlayer | I don't put thought into this kind of thing in my races. I imagine universal acceptable to be whatever you want is the norm several thousand years living in space |
18:58.50 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, perhaps |
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18:58.57 | OluapPlayer | Except the Dracogonarious who are entirely asexial |
18:58.59 | OluapPlayer | asexual even |
18:59.07 | Imperios | Drodo and holyrats are conservative fucks thoughg |
18:59.10 | Imperios | Space Republicans |
18:59.16 | ZF101_ | How mendel handle their sexual relationships -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM |
18:59.27 | DrodoEmpire | Though its not a guarantee every society will undergo something like the Enlightenment and the emergence of Liberalism |
18:59.35 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo, for the most part, didn;t |
18:59.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hence their traditionalism |
18:59.47 | OluapPlayer | I make my races based on my own ideals |
18:59.50 | OluapPlayer | Hence why they're like that |
18:59.51 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
19:00.15 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo don't quite represent my own as, well, I'm not a traditionalist reactionary |
19:01.15 | Imperios | The Radeons are a mix |
19:01.57 | Imperios | They are more like "things that are interesting" |
19:02.41 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean? |
19:03.25 | Charles_Murray | France - Did somebody say, LIBERTY? |
19:03.43 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
19:04.36 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#BREAKING:_Cesterity_Isordon_severely_wounded_amid_fighting - Oh yeah this |
19:06.40 | ZF101_ | Mendel - Did somebody say Clans!?! |
19:06.56 | OluapPlayer | That guy got messed up |
19:07.05 | OluapPlayer | >multiple deep sabre wounds, at least three gun-inflicted flesh wounds, and a completely-crushed right leg |
19:07.12 | OluapPlayer | "let me die already jesus" |
19:07.33 | ZF101_ | Even George Washington would be shocked at that. |
19:08.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... >.< |
19:09.26 | ZF101_ | This dude must be Batman, because he survives everything. |
19:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | Having spent his whole life in the military (with a brief detour into politics), you tend to get that way I suppose |
19:10.53 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, he may *not* have survived, that'll need to be determined with a second update <.< |
19:11.28 | ZF101_ | His family will probably do this to him -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs |
19:11.32 | OluapPlayer | ded |
19:11.45 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
19:18.42 | ZF101_ | test |
19:28.57 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15780963_1803868246539944_6038987969759139105_n.jpg?oh=3e69ed7fc9050428eed465ae4ba33940&oe=58E9A07B |
19:29.28 | DrodoEmpire | shitposting has reached a new level of irony |
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19:30.15 | OluapPlayer | new level of gross more like |
19:33.57 | DrodoEmpire | ^ infuriatingly gross |
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19:36.14 | Xho | y'all trippin |
19:37.34 | DrodoEmpire | Literally for me because ice on pavement is a bitch >: |
19:37.51 | Xho | You haven't broken anything have you |
19:38.14 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, just cracked my arse over the pavement and stretched something in my wrist somehow |
19:38.21 | Xho | ouch |
19:38.31 | Xho | I broke my arm once slipping on ice |
19:38.32 | Xho | Not fun |
19:38.38 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
19:38.58 | Xho | When you land your entire body weight on your arm it suddenly becomes clear just how easy it is to break a bone |
19:39.05 | DrodoEmpire | Ouch... |
19:39.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I tend to always hurt myself on ice, I've gotten used to it though and it helps that I know how to control my fall a bit |
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19:40.33 | Dillonator407 | hello |
19:40.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hey! |
19:40.52 | Dillonator407 | hi drodo |
19:40.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hey dude\ |
19:41.05 | Xho | Hi |
19:41.05 | DrodoEmpire | Its a lot more active here right now |
19:41.19 | Dillonator407 | That's good |
19:41.40 | Dillonator407 | I'll have to remember that its more active at this time then |
19:41.41 | Xho | Very active day today |
19:41.43 | Xho | Which is strange |
19:41.59 | Dillonator407 | really? how is it strange |
19:42.01 | Charles_Murray | France - Did somebody say, LIBERTY? |
19:42.19 | DrodoEmpire | Not *that* strange |
19:42.34 | Dillonator407 | i see |
19:42.37 | DrodoEmpire | I think its more that Mondays tend to be a bit quieter and this one's been pretty active |
19:42.38 | Charles_Murray | It's just that we've been away for the holidays |
19:42.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah true |
19:42.45 | Charles_Murray | And now we're all back suddenly |
19:42.48 | Charles_Murray | So we're like whoa |
19:42.52 | Dillonator407 | oh that makes sense |
19:42.52 | Xho | I guess that's the case |
19:43.07 | Xho | The wiki is less active now than it has been over the years but today's been pretty choc |
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19:43.36 | Dillonator407 | It does seem to be pretty active right now |
19:43.59 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
19:44.30 | Dillonator407 | which is good |
19:44.34 | Xho | Imperios: http://conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity Oh hell this wiki exists |
19:45.08 | Dillonator407 | yeah it does i know that wiki |
19:45.26 | Xho | I got it from you user page so it makes sense |
19:45.33 | Xho | Imperios and I like our conlangs |
19:45.42 | Dillonator407 | ohhhh |
19:46.00 | Dillonator407 | I like starting them but tend to give up around the grammar stage |
19:46.21 | Xho | The wiki's not big on conlangs so even the smallest template is a good one |
19:46.36 | Dillonator407 | I see |
19:46.39 | DrodoEmpire | I've been wanting to make Aratacian (a major Drodo language) but ehh\ |
19:46.47 | Xho | I don't really know how many conlangs I have |
19:46.54 | Xho | 10 or more |
19:47.05 | Dillonator407 | I might end up making a vague one at some point (probably just random words with a consistent phonology) |
19:47.31 | Dillonator407 | although since my empire's names are all randomly generaed at this point idk if thatd work out well |
19:48.10 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AEchdrarothrayu/Language This is my favourite one of mine |
19:48.22 | Dillonator407 | taking a look |
19:48.23 | Xho | There's no actual grammar or anything planned out but I just like it |
19:48.41 | Zillafire101_ | It looks very good. |
19:48.59 | Xho | Imperios is the most educated on languages on the wiki though since he's a linguistics student |
19:49.17 | Imperios | I don't have any real conlangs though |
19:49.24 | Dillonator407 | i see lots of tiny x's in that language |
19:49.25 | Imperios | I should really flesh out Radessic one day |
19:49.28 | Xho | because you suck die in a fire 0/0.2 |
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19:50.15 | Dillonator407 | maybe if i feel like it someday i'll try making a conlang |
19:50.41 | Dillonator407 | though itd end up being a phonology table with a few random words i be |
19:50.43 | Xho | The hx is a voiceless velar fricative if one's to go by phonology |
19:51.14 | Imperios | FUCK |
19:51.16 | Dillonator407 | let me just consult the online ipa chart to figure out which one that was again |
19:51.16 | Imperios | I JUST REMEMBERED |
19:51.21 | Imperios | I HAVE A PHONOLOGY EXAM IN 10 DAYS |
19:51.23 | Imperios | FUCK FUCK FUCK |
19:51.28 | Xho | topkek.avi |
19:51.38 | Dillonator407 | you may want to get ready for that |
19:52.13 | Xho | I find phonology the fun part when doing a conlang |
19:52.21 | Dillonator407 | Same here |
19:52.28 | Xho | My most complex one is the Kicathian language |
19:52.38 | Xho | Which is intentionally difficult to the point where no one should try it |
19:52.49 | OluapPlayer | Fucking hell do you never stop studying? |
19:53.02 | Dillonator407 | oh it acully has a phonology table interesting |
19:53.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah seems like I got a very basic thing for Aratacian down |
19:53.19 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Uni is nothing but studying |
19:53.20 | Dillonator407 | and aspiration differentiation |
19:53.24 | Imperios | I did stop for like the week before the New Year |
19:53.44 | OluapPlayer | Feels good to be done with education |
19:53.54 | Dillonator407 | though i have no idea how to aspirate an N |
19:53.58 | Dillonator407 | i have a holiday right now |
19:54.15 | Xho | Kicathian phonology doesn't always approximate to human phonology |
19:54.26 | Dillonator407 | true its an alien language after all |
19:54.29 | Xho | An aspirated n is basically the n sound with breath behind it |
19:54.47 | Dillonator407 | ahhh i see |
19:55.07 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I'm going back into education some might call me a sadist |
19:56.01 | Dillonator407 | oh btw very random question how s one usually suppoed to pronounce Xh |
19:56.40 | Xho | In my name it's just the same as a x |
19:56.40 | Dillonator407 | is it the voiceless velar fricative or something |
19:56.42 | Xho | Gah |
19:56.42 | Xho | z |
19:56.52 | Xho | Same with Xhodocto |
19:57.13 | Dillonator407 | Ahhh thanks |
19:57.46 | Xho | I could be mega awkward and say it's a click consonant |
19:57.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'm good to discuss fiction stuff when you are Dillonator, just so you know |
19:57.49 | Dillonator407 | i thought so but since complicated conlang stuff thought maybe not |
19:58.13 | Dillonator407 | I'm good to discuss it right now drodo |
19:58.35 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
19:59.04 | Dillonator407 | Xho: If you did make it a click consonant which one would you make it? |
19:59.19 | Xho | Whatever the same one is used for Xh in Xhosa I guess |
19:59.35 | Xho | Lateral I think |
19:59.44 | Dillonator407 | Xho: lemme look that one up |
19:59.52 | Dillonator407 | Drodo: So what ideas did you have in mind? |
20:00.03 | DrodoEmpire | Are your private messages working? |
20:00.15 | DrodoEmpire | Just before anything else |
20:00.28 | Dillonator407 | Oh forgot they existed sorry |
20:00.37 | DrodoEmpire | No problem XD Just checking |
20:13.59 | Monet | Ah Imperios was gone. |
20:14.43 | Monet | Was going to say the Divinarium's key food source, sounds a lot like marzipan. |
20:14.58 | Monet | "[manna-yeast's] nutritious extract, which resembles a golden paste, can be molded into a variety of shapes and, with the right chemicals, given any kind of flavour" |
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20:19.17 | Monet | I'm almost tempted to suggest manna-yeast extract could be exported. |
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20:39.42 | Monet | Hi |
20:39.46 | The_Randomness | Hello |
20:39.57 | Monet | Imperios: I got reading. There could be a market for Divinarium manna-bread |
20:40.04 | Monet | manna-yeast, sorry |
20:40.19 | Imperios | It's like an uber-cheap universal food |
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20:40.54 | Imperios | They probably have a big surplus of that stuff, could sell it yeah |
20:40.58 | Monet | The extract's ability too be shaped and falvoured reminds me of marzipan. |
20:41.08 | drom | Monet: Started on this sketch. Thoughts? https://images.discordapp.net/.eJwdyFEOgyAMANC7cACquJbgbQgSNNOW0Jp9mN19yd7ne9w9Tre63azrCrAdWmRsXk1GbtU3kXbW3A_1RS7IZrnsV2VTCISIr7DgFNJEMy3hXzGFOFOkiJgowc1vlg_7zs19fwf5Iu4.AIldL6OO_TT1JnbNMM9pPdAOBf8 |
20:41.17 | Xho | Talking about marzipan just makes me think of amaretto |
20:41.35 | Xho | Drom: "The force is strong with you, young mutant wolf alien" |
20:41.51 | The_Randomness | lol |
20:42.37 | drom | Xho: Someone confused it as a mutant cat alien |
20:42.44 | drom | Because, the tail. |
20:42.57 | Xho | But it has a canine head tho |
20:43.01 | Monet | It looks very graceful. |
20:43.08 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15871720_1421875944502945_8002526809553541832_n.jpg?oh=21279b7b828fb82799db9de84cd0ec44&oe=58E35238 |
20:43.23 | OluapPlayer | kek |
20:44.57 | Monet | drom: I like the definitiion of the pectorals, the collar and the poses of the hands. |
20:45.16 | Monet | A very nice job giving this thing personality. |
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20:48.52 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium Boom, page brought up to 2017 standards |
20:49.02 | Imperios | Quotes appreciated, I dunno why though |
20:49.52 | DrodoEmpire | I'll take a look |
20:51.15 | DrodoEmpire | Also I just realised that the sorta ironic thing is that the Drodo have a noteworthy Catholic minority but not a Spodist one <.< |
20:52.03 | OluapPlayer | I've updated my quotes |
20:54.27 | DrodoEmpire | "ghey" - Oluap 2016 |
20:54.45 | OluapPlayer | indeed |
20:54.58 | OluapPlayer | Also >2016 |
20:55.03 | OluapPlayer | get on wit the times bruh |
20:56.19 | Xho | 2016+2 |
20:56.25 | Xho | fixed m8 |
20:56.33 | OluapPlayer | That's 2018 |
20:57.08 | Xho | I didn't say I fixed it well |
20:58.07 | Xho | Alright then, 2016+0.5479 |
21:02.54 | DrodoEmpire | fuck |
21:03.00 | DrodoEmpire | Its 2017 I forgot |
21:03.12 | The_Randomness | lol |
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21:04.04 | Cyrannian_ | Hello everyone |
21:04.27 | OluapPlayer | ~dropkick Cyrannian |
21:04.27 | infobot | ACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua |
21:04.47 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
21:04.47 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
21:05.52 | Dillonator407 | ~stares in awe of the spectacle |
21:06.40 | dino82_ | :d |
21:13.51 | Technobliterator | Imperios, Unified Nation not updated to Union Republic? :c |
21:13.59 | Technobliterator | I love what you did with the new Divinarium page, though |
21:14.01 | Imperios | Oh yeah gonna fix this |
21:16.08 | Technobliterator | This is probably one of the best pages on the wiki now, up there with most of the Cyrannus pages |
21:16.15 | Technobliterator | and the ones Charles makes |
21:16.19 | Technobliterator | in terms of presentation and detail |
21:16.30 | Technobliterator | Alas, I cannot make images like you guys can |
21:17.06 | Technobliterator | aw he left |
21:17.10 | Technobliterator | I wanted to ask how he made the planet images |
21:18.45 | OluapPlayer | He'll probably be back again in a few minutes |
21:19.01 | OluapPlayer | ur paegs is bad cus u suk lul |
21:19.17 | Xho | bah |
21:19.25 | Xho | I quoted his page anyway |
21:19.37 | Xho | and I messed it up |
21:20.03 | Xho | There we go |
21:20.04 | Technobliterator | I would say URO's page is not bad, but it is, because a) no images, and b) I don't think I even finished it |
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21:22.23 | OluapPlayer | You never finish anything |
21:22.30 | OluapPlayer | You're hachi-tier now |
21:22.39 | Xho | now dat's just mean |
21:22.41 | Xho | True but mean |
21:22.43 | OluapPlayer | First Ottzello War was never finished |
21:22.45 | OluapPlayer | shame on u |
21:24.15 | Xho | Imperios: quoted |
21:24.24 | dino82_ | Bye bye! |
21:24.32 | DrodoEmpire | Bye! |
21:24.59 | Technobliterator | Didn't I finish the First Ottzello War? |
21:25.08 | Technobliterator | I swear I finished it but then failed to start the Second Ottzello War |
21:25.15 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
21:25.26 | Technobliterator | I could've sworn I finished it |
21:25.26 | Technobliterator | oh wait |
21:25.34 | Technobliterator | no, the third act was supposed to be other people getting involved |
21:25.39 | Technobliterator | and then I forgot to bug them to get involved |
21:26.35 | Charles_Murray | Hey guys |
21:26.37 | Charles_Murray | guys |
21:27.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yes Charles ol' pal? |
21:27.19 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 Xho ImpyDroid DrodoEmpire Cyrannian The Gorge Crisis is over |
21:27.26 | DrodoEmpire | yuy |
21:27.38 | Tek0516 | Woo |
21:27.54 | Charles_Murray | Rambo Nation and France have agreed to a preliminary treaty which will put a decisive end to it if agreed to by all members of the NZTO and associated states |
21:27.59 | Tek0516 | Now to partition the Rambo among NZTO nations |
21:28.05 | Charles_Murray | Wat |
21:28.05 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
21:29.32 | Charles_Murray | The end result, if all goes well, is freedom of navigation for NZTO states and associated states in the Quadrants, recognition of the Gorge and the annexation of the unclaimed territories by the NZTO and associated states, and bilateral NZTO-Rambo control over the flow of traffic between the Neutrality Zone and the unclaimed territories |
21:30.34 | Charles_Murray | Recognition of NZTO states as legitimate Quadrantian actors, their ascension to the Lianna initiative, and decreasing of NZTO-Rambo armaments and tensions in the Quadrants |
21:31.37 | Charles_Murray | And the end of the Franco-Rambo cold war, as it were. |
21:32.02 | Tek0516 | "Recognition of the Gorge" So it stays? |
21:32.31 | drom | Awh, I didn't catch time to tank Monet for his feedback |
21:32.34 | drom | ;_; |
21:34.00 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 : Yes, but in circumstances that we can live with |
21:34.15 | Charles_Murray | Oh, and trade and commerce between the Neutrality Zone and Rambo Nation |
21:36.51 | Charles_Murray | So yeah |
21:36.54 | Charles_Murray | Peace in our time? |
21:37.04 | DrodoEmpire | Seems so |
21:38.20 | Tek0516 | That phrase never ends well. >.> |
21:38.41 | DrodoEmpire | shh |
21:38.44 | DrodoEmpire | SHHHHH |
21:38.45 | Xho | Empire -hi |
21:38.56 | DrodoEmpire | Silvan Precursors - wussup |
21:39.14 | Xho | Dominion - wagwarn |
21:39.30 | OluapPlayer | Gorf - dingsu |
21:40.32 | Xho | Santorakh - https://youtu.be/8tYXfssLOSM?t=3s |
21:41.42 | Charles_Murray | France - dammit guys |
21:41.48 | Charles_Murray | France - I can't have five minutes to celebrate |
21:41.54 | Charles_Murray | France - when the next thing hits me |
21:45.16 | Charles_Murray | Oh, and on that note |
21:45.27 | Charles_Murray | France and the Talven Empire have also come to an agreement to avert war |
21:46.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, and each threat is weirder than the last >:D |
21:47.36 | Charles_Murray | I'm going to be able to remove "Perfect Storm" and replace it with something else once all of this gets written down |
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22:14.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
22:16.24 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
22:18.17 | Tek0516 | spins the wheel of sporewiki conflict generation |
22:19.01 | Liquid_Ink | What does it land on? |
22:19.02 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: The DrodoEmpire goes rogue and invades the FTC. :P |
22:19.07 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
22:19.26 | DrodoEmpire | C - *pulls out a shiv* GET BACK |
22:19.31 | DrodoEmpire | C - I'M DANGEROUS |
22:19.51 | Tek0516 | FTC - France. Halp. |
22:20.18 | Xho | Kicath - wtf is this shit |
22:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | Actually an upcoming conflict is a precursor civilisation in the Quadrants reawakening |
22:21.13 | Xho | ayy lmao indeed |
22:21.40 | DrodoEmpire | And fucking up anything within a radius of its claimed territory so as to construct some new megastructures to live on and turn back inwards |
22:22.02 | DrodoEmpire | The Rambo, Drodo, and French will not like this idea |
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22:25.05 | Monet | hi |
22:26.20 | Monet | I got into thinking just now. Is it possible the common perception of aristocracy is misunderstood; you know as to how they arose or why they were around. |
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22:26.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Monet, hachi |
22:26.56 | Hachiman | Hello |
22:26.58 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah how do you mean? |
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22:28.25 | Hachiman | What's this? |
22:28.28 | Xho | ohai |
22:28.38 | Monet | <Monet> I got into thinking just now. Is it possible the common perception of aristocracy is misunderstood; you know as to how they arose or why they were around. |
22:32.30 | Monet | I wonder if the understandign of why we had aristocrats in the past has been lost. |
22:33.09 | Charles_Murray | Well, to the average person, yeah |
22:33.18 | Xho | Cyrannian: Do you still want individuals for the Aldárae Order |
22:33.30 | Cyrannian | Yus |
22:33.41 | Charles_Murray | But for historians and political scientists who study the period, it makes perfect sense how society worked and why it happened that way |
22:33.42 | Xho | I will think of something |
22:34.34 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/TOSB64k.gif - Fight or flight |
22:34.44 | Monet | For specialists yeah, the understanding of why aristocracy exists hasn't been lost. For the layman ehhh... |
22:34.48 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I love looking at early societies |
22:35.04 | DrodoEmpire | Well to be fair regular people probably never truly understood why aristocrats are in power |
22:35.21 | Cyrannian | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ACyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Auil.C3.A1mi - Perhaps one of these guys |
22:35.22 | DrodoEmpire | Depending on the period they were satisfied with the explanation that they were there because God wills it |
22:35.37 | Xho | Maybe but I'd have the need to remake them in Spore |
22:35.52 | DrodoEmpire | Though I imagine some people were a bit more class-conscious |
22:36.07 | DrodoEmpire | Romans during the republic, or the late 18th century French for example |
22:36.13 | Monet | And the widespread adaptation of democracy eventually made aristocracy a it redundant. |
22:36.32 | DrodoEmpire | Not redundant, but maybe incompatible |
22:36.51 | Xho | Cyrannian: "Xohan Nu Doctó" Santorakh - ACTUALLY NOT FROM CYRANNUS LOL |
22:37.05 | Cyrannian | original name of the year |
22:37.36 | Charles_Murray | DrodoEmpire dissonant |
22:37.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
22:38.02 | DrodoEmpire | "dissonant" is actually perfect |
22:38.32 | Monet | Back in the day the aristocracy were landowners. Their lands became a relic of a time when they were expected to, among other things, enforce the law in their holdings. |
22:38.40 | Xho | Cyrannian: That's just given the idea of perhaps putting http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AKamaris_Vorava this character into the order |
22:39.12 | Monet | Collect taxes, and provide the liege with information to help run the country. |
22:39.30 | Charles_Murray | There's also the fact that there was a time where the vast majority of people didn't participate in the formal economy and pretty much lived their whole lives anchored to the earth. When you're extremely poor, hungry, uneducated, isolated, and working all day, you don't really know what's going on in the wider society and you can't really care |
22:39.41 | Cyrannian | Xho: That's a good idea, characters don't need to use the not!Force |
22:39.47 | DrodoEmpire | That's true |
22:40.06 | Xho | Not quite sure what mystical power Mahanayans possess |
22:40.17 | Xho | Kamaris isn't a master of it but still |
22:40.40 | Xho | Kamaris has some skill in it but not enough to bring something like a building down on someone |
22:40.44 | Charles_Murray | The industrial revolution fundamentally changed the mechanics of politics and economics in that it (broadly, simplifying) ushered in mass politics and mass participation in the formal economy |
22:41.31 | Charles_Murray | But up to that point, politics was the realm of 'elite' orders like the Clergy, the Burghers, and the nobility |
22:41.48 | Charles_Murray | And the aritisans, guilds, etc |
22:41.54 | Charles_Murray | Which composed a very small percentage of the population overall |
22:42.04 | Xho | Cyrannian: What is 2347 AD in BNE dating |
22:42.24 | Xho | Roughly |
22:42.32 | Monet | The vast majority of the population were, as you said, too focused on their local village. |
22:44.17 | Monet | A rising educated class gave way to a rising portion of the population not of aristocratic lineage who could afford to engage in these 'elite' activities. |
22:44.30 | Charles_Murray | Kind of |
22:44.34 | Charles_Murray | gtg |
22:44.37 | Cyrannian | Xho: that'll require some research, hang on |
22:45.12 | Xho | Well better put it Kamaris is 470 years old |
22:45.32 | Cyrannian | Where's that big timeline that a user made a while back? |
22:45.44 | Xho | dunnolol |
22:46.00 | drom | Hey Monet. |
22:46.03 | Cyrannian | Ah found it |
22:46.04 | drom | Thanks for the feedback |
22:46.43 | drom | Anyway. I had noticed a lack of a Sporewiki Discord |
22:46.59 | Xho | Not sure if there's a point tho |
22:47.02 | Xho | We have the IRC |
22:47.09 | drom | True that |
22:47.10 | Xho | Then again Discord is better |
22:47.19 | Xho | In terms of what functions it serves |
22:47.27 | drom | Some of the people prefer IRC however. |
22:47.32 | Monet | I sort of got interested as the Draconis essentially restored their aristocracy. One explaination I guess is that the Draconis concluded that running an interstellar empire using direct or indirect democracy just wouldn't work. |
22:48.08 | drom | But you know |
22:48.23 | drom | It is however possible to create a bridge between IRC and Discord. |
22:49.16 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
22:52.03 | drom | Using a bot with an account at each medium (IRC and Discord being two seperate mediums) |
22:52.13 | drom | Simple |
22:52.34 | Technobliterator | I have seen that done before |
22:53.16 | drom | Same here. |
22:55.10 | Hachiman | You cannot possibly mean... |
22:55.13 | Hachiman | Multi-client drifting? |
22:55.37 | Xho | dun dun dunnnn |
22:55.49 | drom | Yes. Multi-client drifting. |
22:56.25 | drom | Now let's expand it to Twitter, Wikia, Facebook |
22:56.28 | Hachiman | Y-Yameru?! M-Masaka?! |
22:56.44 | Xho | YAMETE |
22:58.13 | drom | Obligatory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86PUB4u2s2A |
22:58.58 | Monet | All depends on dedication I guess |
22:59.35 | Monet | The official Sporewiki twitter channel is, to put politely, very quiet. |
23:02.28 | Monet | Aaaanyway |
23:06.11 | drom | Yeeeeessss? |
23:06.49 | drom | Ugh, I was about to close this IRC window. Only to realize I was on IRC, not Discord. |
23:06.51 | drom | Grrrr |
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23:10.20 | Wormy_ | hi |
23:10.26 | Monet | Hi |
23:10.57 | Monet | As I was suggesting earlier, maybe early Draconis came to the conclusion that indirect democracy wasnt' really possible in an emergent interstellar empire. |
23:11.31 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray: Yiy, conflict over |
23:11.45 | ImpyDroid | Monet: I explain it that way |
23:11.46 | Wormy_ | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14955972_1286092451449884_5353671085060638180_n.png?oh=f977776a5b0425ce9f7bf69de74d682f&oe=58DD3F85 |
23:12.14 | ImpyDroid | Early interstellar travel very faulty -> need for strong authoritarian rule to make quick decisions |
23:12.42 | ImpyDroid | So, say, a rebellion in a distant world won't take years to be quashed |
23:13.05 | Xho | Cyrannian: You figure out a date yet |
23:13.57 | OluapPlayer | http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-computers-used-to-depict-russian-hacking-on-cnn/ |
23:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | ayyyyy lmao |
23:14.10 | DrodoEmpire | I heard of that |
23:14.15 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, brb |
23:14.27 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Putin's will is the will of Russia |
23:14.40 | OluapPlayer | Missing the joke |
23:14.43 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Faulty and communication problems. |
23:14.47 | Xho | Lanius quote |
23:15.07 | Xho | CAESAR'S WILL IS THE WILL OF THE LEGION |
23:15.25 | ImpyDroid | And the West |
23:15.34 | OluapPlayer | I wouldn't know about Lanius, I Speech'd him away as quickly as he arrived |
23:15.40 | ImpyDroid | All that lives under the flag of the Bald Eagle exist to test the strength of Russia |
23:15.46 | Cyrannian | Xho: I haven't, usually translating BNE to the Terran calendar is more trouble than it's worth |
23:16.00 | Xho | Where's that convoluted calendar then |
23:16.03 | Xho | I'll figure it out |
23:16.10 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Banelord88/Timeline_Demo - Found it |
23:16.28 | Xho | >banelord |
23:16.56 | Xho | Okay I can't figure it out |
23:17.45 | Xho | Okay when was the Treaty of Corulus in BNE dates |
23:17.55 | ImpyDroid | Xho: He's a big user |
23:18.05 | OluapPlayer | Normally a Cyrannian year is about 2 Earth years |
23:18.11 | Xho | right |
23:18.25 | Cyrannian | 04 BNE was the Treaty of Corulus |
23:19.06 | OluapPlayer | Banelord's last edit was 13 months ago |
23:19.12 | OluapPlayer | Sucks, he made sense to what we didn't |
23:19.47 | Xho | From what I gather a Cyrannian year to 2 Earth years is about right |
23:19.55 | Xho | So Kamaris was born c. 235 BNE |
23:20.21 | drom | I must go and sleep. See ya. |
23:21.05 | Xho | old ass horse alien |
23:22.09 | Xho | Well, between 233 BNE and 237 BNE |
23:23.29 | Xho | Or is that right, no wait it isn't |
23:24.00 | Xho | 215 - 225 BNE even |
23:25.32 | Cyrannian | dis is confusing, but let's go with that |
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23:29.17 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
23:33.23 | DrodoEmpire | I find it incredibly interesting that, even in the year 40 000 AD that Warhammer 40k is based in, any response to the Arecibo message via radio would still be roughly 10 000 years off |
23:33.43 | DrodoEmpire | Just a realisation I had\ |
23:40.39 | Monet | I can imagine the Administorum wanting to intercept the transmission |
23:41.15 | Cyrannian | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/56/Battle_of_Ambar_04.png/revision/latest?cb=20170102234054 - c |
23:41.45 | Monet | Stop any nasty Xeonos form seeing it. |
23:42.59 | OluapPlayer | Nice job |
23:43.22 | Hachiman | Remind me what the Arecibo message is |
23:43.29 | Hachiman | Also that's a nicely well-produced pic |
23:43.42 | OluapPlayer | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Arecibo_message.svg |
23:44.01 | Hachiman | Ah, that |
23:44.06 | DrodoEmpire | It was shot at a distant galaxy and will take 25 000 years either way |
23:44.49 | Xho | Cyrannian: "sup bitch" |
23:48.24 | Cyrannian | The amount of derpy positions Spore creatures can make is astounding |
23:49.37 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
23:55.02 | Tek0516 | Spore: Derp Simulator 2008 |
23:55.24 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f2/Battle_of_Ambar_05.png/revision/latest?cb=20170102235508 - and finally, c dis |
23:55.57 | OluapPlayer | Thaurlathron - yeah well at least i dont have a big bulbous head |
23:56.34 | Cyrannian | Apolithanatár - #rude |
23:56.51 | OluapPlayer | I like the red effects around his body |
23:57.34 | Cyrannian | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6d/MysteriesNand%C3%B3band05.png/revision/latest?cb=20150321181210 - Also, all Oikoumene have the big bulbous heads |
23:58.32 | OluapPlayer | Tyromairon's true weakness = a needle to the head |
23:58.40 | DrodoEmpire | *pop* |
23:59.41 | Cyrannian | brb |