| 00:00.06 | Hachiman | [H A P P Y N E W Y E A R] |
| 00:00.15 | OluapPlayer | NiiN killed many robots that day |
| 00:00.17 | Xho | [O H G O D] |
| 00:00.57 | Monet | Yeah he must be looking at the Consulate fighting an information war with censorship and screaming "This is not what I imagined the Kraw to be!" |
| 00:01.02 | Cyrannian | Happy new year! |
| 00:01.13 | Xho | I can hear the people ACROSS THE FUCKING ROAD SINGING AULD LANG SYNE |
| 00:01.17 | Xho | ACROSS THE FUCKING ROAD |
| 00:01.25 | Xho | MY ROAD IS WIDE AS FUCK M8 |
| 00:01.48 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CeNvhd9b60 that reminded me of this |
| 00:02.36 | Xho | Wow that's going back a bit |
| 00:03.01 | Xho | Surprisingly accurate of the UK as well |
| 00:03.12 | Monet | Xho: Yeah it's what's being sung on TV. |
| 00:03.51 | Xho | OluapPlayer: ROIT IN TEH MIDDAL OF TEH FACKIN WROAD |
| 00:03.54 | drom | Xho: Hell wasn't satisifed with NiiN's killcount and sent him back every time he died. |
| 00:04.06 | OluapPlayer | Brits are weird with their driving seats being in the right side of the car |
| 00:04.13 | Monet | OluapPlayer: White Van Man: The Musical |
| 00:04.23 | Hachiman | The horizon is full of fireworks |
| 00:04.26 | Xho | That's every vehicle in the UK |
| 00:04.43 | Xho | Oh wait that's what you said |
| 00:04.43 | OluapPlayer | Our driving seats are in the left side |
| 00:04.43 | Xho | doi |
| 00:04.52 | OluapPlayer | dingii |
| 00:05.10 | Xho | Fireworks are loud |
| 00:05.17 | Xho | Luckily my dog is incurious about fireworks |
| 00:05.36 | OluapPlayer | I was about to say now is the ritual time for all dogs to bark their lungs out |
| 00:05.36 | Hachiman | For a moment I thought you meant all the fireworks were every vehicle in the UK |
| 00:05.46 | drom | Advantages of living at a super-remote location |
| 00:05.50 | OluapPlayer | Brits riding fireworks |
| 00:05.52 | drom | No one bothers you with fireworks |
| 00:05.54 | OluapPlayer | That's a name for a sitcom |
| 00:06.08 | Cyrannian | My dogs are too lazy to care, but I feel sorry for those who are freaking out |
| 00:06.14 | Xho | >Fireworks you mean like Fiat Puntos |
| 00:06.35 | Hachiman | kek |
| 00:06.53 | Hachiman | roit in teh middal of teh FAHKIN wroahd |
| 00:07.03 | OluapPlayer | moit |
| 00:07.10 | Xho | straya |
| 00:07.17 | OluapPlayer | STRAYA CUNT |
| 00:07.18 | drom | Crying |
| 00:07.31 | drom | right in the middle of the fucking road |
| 00:10.21 | drom | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc8ejeVH1ts |
| 00:13.21 | Cyrannian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_in_2017 - Keep refreshing this page guise |
| 00:14.47 | OluapPlayer | u need a better hobby |
| 00:15.18 | Tek0516 | A slightly late happy new years to you Euros. :P |
| 00:15.50 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnuTnyoWtOQ 8 bit Meshuggah sounds like a boss theme |
| 00:16.12 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 00:17.53 | OluapPlayer | Contra boss fight theme |
| 00:18.38 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGVC5__Gk9w This one works as well |
| 00:18.54 | drom | I find it weird how the driver of the first van in the lament song looks like Nicholas Cage to me |
| 00:21.10 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lklU89L8sXs The 8-bit does kind of stave off the heaviness |
| 00:24.09 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKoBwQBadgk fuck |
| 00:24.39 | Hachiman | Jesus |
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| 00:27.58 | Dillonator407 | hello |
| 00:29.00 | Xho | Hi |
| 00:29.14 | Technobliterator | Wow |
| 00:29.23 | Technobliterator | I haven't spoken on this channel in a year :o |
| 00:29.39 | Xho | idiot |
| 00:29.54 | Dillonator407 | I've only been on once all year so far |
| 00:35.35 | Technobliterator | I really should sleep |
| 00:35.50 | Dillonator407 | its late morning for me |
| 00:35.56 | drom | It is 1:35 here lol |
| 00:36.12 | Dillonator407 | am or pm? |
| 00:38.13 | Dillonator407 | btw since i'm new would it be a good idea to ask for feedback on my first attempt at a fiction here? |
| 00:38.30 | Hachiman | Absolutely |
| 00:39.21 | Dillonator407 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Audal_Empire here it is (sorry for awful picture, need to take a proper one) i'd appreciate any feedback on what i've done so far |
| 00:40.26 | drom | Dillonator407: AM actually |
| 00:40.47 | Dillonator407 | its almost 12pm for me |
| 00:41.35 | Xho | Dillonator407: First thing I'd do is break up the paragraphs a bit |
| 00:41.49 | Dillonator407 | Got it i'll do that |
| 00:42.32 | Xho | Other than that it's a good start |
| 00:43.04 | Dillonator407 | Thanks i'm glad |
| 00:43.23 | Dillonator407 | Ok i quickly split the paragraphs is it better now? |
| 00:43.49 | Xho | Maybe too many paragraphs now |
| 00:44.04 | Xho | You'll want three or so |
| 00:44.17 | Dillonator407 | Got it i will try to balance it out |
| 00:45.33 | drom | I'll leave this here. Specially for you, Wormy_ and Xho. Since this is in Tuuros. |
| 00:45.53 | Dillonator407 | I've changed it again |
| 00:46.16 | drom | And I must go |
| 00:46.19 | drom | Bye |
| 00:46.27 | Dillonator407 | I'll probbaly end up altering it a billion times anyway to add more stuff but i'll try to sort out how much per paragraph |
| 00:46.32 | Dillonator407 | see you |
| 00:47.15 | Xho | That works |
| 00:47.29 | Dillonator407 | thanks for your help |
| 00:48.34 | Dillonator407 | what's the most important information about an empire to know apart from its history? |
| 00:49.08 | Xho | Hm |
| 00:49.16 | Hachiman | Its society |
| 00:49.19 | Hachiman | And characters |
| 00:49.31 | Dillonator407 | hmmm i see |
| 00:49.42 | Xho | Well what's normally written down is Government, Society, Technology, Religion (if any), Military (if any) |
| 00:49.42 | Dillonator407 | i've got to work a lot of that stuff out still |
| 00:50.33 | Dillonator407 | Government I know a little, tech a bit, society not too much beyond the basic idea, no religions figured out and only a basic idea for military so far |
| 00:51.03 | Xho | It doesn't have to be massively convoluted |
| 00:51.16 | Dillonator407 | Thankfully |
| 00:51.31 | Dillonator407 | But i do need to get the basics down |
| 00:52.17 | Dillonator407 | would it be worthwile to give some information on important colonies or would that be a waste at this early stage |
| 00:52.30 | Xho | Not really |
| 00:52.40 | Xho | The capital planet/homeworld is usually a must |
| 00:52.44 | Hachiman | I'd say you could - in fact, should - detail some important colonies |
| 00:53.00 | Dillonator407 | yes the homeworld is important |
| 00:53.12 | Dillonator407 | and as for other colonies...i need to figure out stuff for them |
| 00:54.30 | Dillonator407 | and of course, i have to actually do something with all of this at some point otherwise not much point having all this information |
| 00:56.31 | Xho | It's 10 to 1 in the morning |
| 00:56.41 | Xho | Let me sleep for the love of god |
| 00:57.10 | Dillonator407 | anyway i'm off thanks for the help |
| 02:03.32 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.19 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 02:50.23 | The_Randomness | wat |
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| 06:17.26 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
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| 09:51.01 | dino82_ | HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY! |
| 09:51.10 | dino82_ | With the best wishes for a healthy, prosperous and great 2017!!!! |
| 09:53.04 | Liquid_Ink | Thank you, and the same as well to you. |
| 10:24.13 | dino82_ | Thanks! |
| 10:24.17 | dino82_ | HAd a great change of the year? |
| 10:24.54 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty uneventful to be honest. |
| 10:25.12 | Liquid_Ink | I don't really do new years parties. |
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| 10:27.55 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 10:28.37 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 10:30.07 | dino82_ | @Liquid: Oh? An easy one then!!! |
| 10:30.10 | dino82_ | Hi ! |
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| 11:10.33 | ImpyDroid | hi |
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| 11:15.47 | Monet | hi |
| 11:16.10 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 11:19.37 | dino82_ | hi |
| 11:19.40 | dino82_ | happy new year both! |
| 11:27.47 | Monet | Happy new year! |
| 11:31.24 | dino82_ | :D Thanks! |
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| 11:56.40 | dino82_ | hi Ghel! |
| 11:56.43 | dino82_ | Hapy New Year! |
| 12:00.07 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:00.14 | Ghelae | ~give dino82_ a pie |
| 12:00.15 | infobot | ACTION gives dino82_ a home-baked pizza pie with whipped cream on top |
| 12:02.12 | dino82_ | Ah thanks :D |
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| 12:25.58 | Monet | happy 2017 |
| 12:26.34 | Wormy_ | Hi, Happy 2017 to everyone |
| 12:30.24 | Liquid_Ink | Did you see that 2016 managed to claim one last victim in its final hours? |
| 12:31.41 | Monet | Honetly I'd rather not dwell on it myself. |
| 12:34.13 | Monet | The way I see it, the regional death rates have nto deviated much. it just so happens we've had more deaths of people everyone knows of. |
| 12:36.53 | Wormy_ | What victim was it? |
| 12:37.46 | Liquid_Ink | William Chistopher |
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| 12:47.15 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/83lAy |
| 12:48.56 | Monet | Liquid_Ink: Never watched MASH |
| 12:49.33 | Monet | So he flew under my radar, as it were. |
| 12:51.12 | Liquid_Ink | >:( |
| 12:51.29 | Wormy_ | Never even heard of him |
| 12:51.38 | Liquid_Ink | Of course, I accidentally made a pun at Wormy, so I shouldn't really complain |
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| 13:01.06 | Hachiman | Hi |
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| 13:02.49 | Monet | Heyoh |
| 13:03.07 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 13:05.48 | Monet | Thinking abotu this meme http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/2f/2f116ce6bc03a7f5806342c077db6238048bec2e3641accc8ff70fde3a1914c7.jpg not entirely inaccurate |
| 13:07.07 | Hachiman | It's called a sprint |
| 13:07.29 | Hachiman | Try running for prolonged periods of time with heavy military equipment on your person |
| 13:08.00 | Monet | That too |
| 13:08.52 | Monet | Try running for prolonged periods while wearing 50-100lbs of equipment in the desert sun |
| 13:10.20 | Monet | I imagine even at their fittest, a soldier equipped like that won't be running as fast as he could. |
| 13:11.59 | Monet | Part of the DoD/MoD's appeal in powered exoskeletons is access to soldiers who can lug all their gear around. |
| 13:12.14 | Hachiman | Plus, you're encouraged not to run into the open and reserving energy to fight - which means you're not going to be running for long periods of time even if you could |
| 13:12.45 | Monet | If we're talkign CS:Go or CoD, best use that quick sprint to get in cover. |
| 13:13.12 | OluapPlayer | From a gameplay perspective, I can agree with the meme however |
| 13:13.18 | OluapPlayer | Gameplay over realism |
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| 13:13.54 | OluapPlayer | One of my favorite things about Mass Effect 3 was the fact you could run as much as you wanted all the time |
| 13:15.22 | Monet | In ME's case it makes a bit more sense. Although I myself found the sprint mroe useful jumping from cover to cover. |
| 13:15.53 | OluapPlayer | That was good too, but I mostly meant out of combat running |
| 13:16.39 | Monet | Well looking at the missions, a lot of the time the team you had could have been running around with less gear. |
| 13:17.05 | OluapPlayer | No stamina system meant you could keep constantly on the move and get to the action quickly |
| 13:17.27 | OluapPlayer | It was okay in ME2 but ME1's two-second-long sprint was the bane of my existence |
| 13:17.58 | OluapPlayer | Especially on that one Moon mission |
| 13:18.23 | Monet | Part of the excessive weight I quoted comes from soldiers carrying everything they need for a day's patrol. Food, water, replacement batteries, flashlight, a day's worth of ammo just in case there's a firefight. |
| 13:20.30 | Monet | Unlike in video games, real soldiers can't pick up and use the same clips as the enemy. Even if they're all using NATO-graded ammunition (like 5.56mm bullets for assault rifle grade firearms) you're not going to be able to feed an M4 with an FN2000 clip. |
| 13:20.57 | OluapPlayer | Sure but this is about videogames |
| 13:21.05 | OluapPlayer | Acceptable breaks from reality to make the gameplay less of a slog |
| 13:21.35 | Monet | ME gets around this by the ammo being an ejectable heat sink of a single design. |
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| 13:23.36 | Monet | I suppose ME1 and 2's sysem was so you didn't go dashing around in combat - maybe they couldn't implement a sprint system that toggles. |
| 13:24.10 | OluapPlayer | They're not the kind of games where you want to spring during combat, neither are most FPSs |
| 13:24.32 | OluapPlayer | If you see an enemy most people will either facetank the damage or hop into cover and not move anymore |
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| 13:26.39 | Monet | I've seen some veterens joking in palces that "if you could sprint for six seconds in what we wear you're nto an elite soldier you're a f'kin demigod" |
| 13:27.10 | Monet | ...which considering the body count you can mount i na typical FPS makes a lot of sense. |
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| 13:49.44 | Monet | Happy new cycle around a random star in an unremarkable galaxy > |
| 13:49.49 | Monet | :> |
| 13:50.25 | Xho | wow |
| 13:50.44 | Xho | You say that now but 38,000 years in the future and it's all the shit |
| 13:50.50 | Wormy_ | The Earth and SolSys are highly remarkable in an unremarkable universe |
| 13:50.58 | Ghelae | You mean happy arbitrary point in the cycle of one planet around a random star in an unremarkable galaxy. |
| 13:51.17 | OluapPlayer | And I thought you people were meant to be optimistic |
| 13:51.24 | Wormy_ | I am |
| 13:51.29 | Xho | lol |
| 13:51.46 | Wormy_ | Most of the universe is intergalactic near-vacuum |
| 13:51.47 | Monet | I was merely having fun. Hence the :> |
| 13:52.34 | Ghelae | Yeah. A truly unremarkable galaxy would be a dwarf or elliptical one. |
| 13:52.40 | Monet | Although Xho does have a point. Building a gigantic psychic lighthouse would ensure Earth is the centre of importance. |
| 13:53.01 | Xho | Good name for a band |
| 13:53.05 | Xho | Psychic Lighthouse |
| 13:53.56 | Monet | I've seen it proposed that if we do develop interstellar colonies, as those colonies develop Earth will lose significance as the hoem of humanity. |
| 13:54.46 | Monet | It more becomes one of many hubs for the human race. |
| 13:55.02 | Wormy_ | If we live in an Orion Arm or Xeelee-seque future, even planets might lose significance |
| 13:55.37 | Ghelae | That's more generally a future in which humanity inhabits millions of planets. |
| 13:56.20 | Wormy_ | true |
| 13:56.40 | Ghelae | And it seems reasonable: Earth will have some importance but it might just be one world out of thousands of equally well-developed ones. |
| 13:57.31 | Ghelae | Over long expanses of time, the historical significance will fade somewhat too. After ten thousand years or so, most of recorded history will be interstellar. |
| 13:58.23 | Ghelae | If human civilisation lasts for another hundred thousand years, one planet having a few percent of that to its own won't seem so major. |
| 13:58.45 | Wormy_ | Earth has already been transformed by Man. And one day, so may the universe, perhaps Earth will be seen as the beginning of it all |
| 14:00.17 | Monet | During the Age of Apostasy in the 36th millenniumm, the Ecclesiarchy tried to make Ophelia VII a new capita lof humanity. |
| 14:00.30 | Wormy_ | unless of course, we meet some foe who has already beat up to the long game |
| 14:00.33 | Wormy_ | *us |
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| 14:09.09 | Monet | So I found this vs proposal http://orig00.deviantart.net/04b9/f/2015/203/2/a/gilgamesh_vs_geom_by_the_myth_of_legends-d92fi6q.png here's a thought. Considering his history what if the Big-E WAS Gilgamesh? |
| 14:12.50 | Monet | https://crossingzebras.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Fatbee_Emporer_of_Man.png this doesn't really surprise me. |
| 14:13.20 | Ghelae | Do you mean, could the God-Emperor of Mankind be Gilgamesh, king of Uruk, of the Epic of Gilgamesh? |
| 14:14.03 | Monet | Ghelae: yes |
| 14:14.56 | Ghelae | Hmm. While Gilgamesh fails to obtain immortality in the story, I'm sure that could be justified as a fiction added for good reason. |
| 14:15.48 | Monet | The Emperor has had many personas. It's not too much to imagine he's faked his death many times. |
| 14:18.34 | Ghelae | Going on a quest to find the secret to eternal life would presumably stop people from suspecting that you're already immortal. |
| 14:20.45 | Monet | Big E - It was great road trip. |
| 14:25.10 | Monet | The realisation the Epic of Giglamesh was in fact one of the world's greatest excuses to get drunk and get into fights. |
| 14:32.23 | Wormy_ | "Life is great when you're mucus, then suddenly it's snot." |
| 14:36.38 | Wormy_ | The Imperial Palace must stretch into space, in height https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrrky5Jg9D0 |
| 14:36.47 | Wormy_ | that first picture |
| 14:37.17 | Wormy_ | I wanted to do one better than that for the DCP palace, hence a transportable megastructure |
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| 14:51.45 | Monet | bak |
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| 15:09.01 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 15:12.35 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 15:18.50 | Xho | Oh wow Skyrim logic |
| 15:19.24 | Xho | Random student wants me to put up a ward -> hits the guy behind me -> guy behind me bashes student's brains in with a hammer |
| 15:20.25 | dino82_ | test |
| 15:23.36 | Monet | The college of magic is really strict when you make a mistake. |
| 15:28.24 | Xho | This was in Whiterun tho |
| 15:29.01 | Monet | oh |
| 15:40.20 | Monet | You said student and magic |
| 15:40.35 | Xho | It was one of those random encounters |
| 15:42.41 | Monet | right |
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| 16:08.37 | Monet | Thinking about it I 'd worry moer about a new game or film that has never had any production issues or development hiccups. |
| 16:22.07 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.40 | Monet | "Inhraahk - Now, what's all this talk about wanting to see freedom. | Esonog - Are you really asking me that question. | Inhraahk - As I understand it we live in a free nation. | Esonog - If you're a Kraw who obeys the government with little question.| Inhraahk - I do not follow.| Esonog - That's because you fabricate the lie, you don't live it." - for context, Esonog was a turncoat. A member of Kraw intelligence who funneled intel to the |
| 16:24.40 | Monet | Kraw enemies at the time. |
| 16:25.10 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:49.00 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 16:49.15 | OluapPlayer | ~dropkick Cyrannian |
| 16:49.15 | infobot | ACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua |
| 16:50.18 | Cyrannian | ~hug OluapPlayer |
| 16:50.19 | infobot | ACTION hugs OluapPlayer tightly until OluapPlayer turns slightly blue |
| 16:51.18 | Cyrannian | I should probably get the featured fiction back up and rolling. Any nominations for featured empire? |
| 17:00.36 | Ghelae | I guess one of Imp's recently-redone Radeon nations. |
| 17:01.49 | Ghelae | I'll nominate Church of Spode. |
| 17:03.06 | Ghelae | It has three red links, but I think two of them are simply the result of being linked to the wrong page. |
| 17:04.00 | Ghelae | Okay, maybe just one of them. |
| 17:04.43 | Cyrannian | Good choice |
| 17:05.28 | OluapPlayer | I don't have anything for empire, but I nominate the Zarkhator War for fiction story |
| 17:06.23 | Cyrannian | But seriously people, with the amount of criticism levelled at the lack of feedback between members of the community, this is a good way to facilitate it. (You can nominate your own fictions) |
| 17:08.18 | Monet | When I first joined I remember days often included lively discussions of fiction - characters, events, places. |
| 17:09.32 | Monet | What happened to the random noncanon RPs that used to go on in the IRC. |
| 17:11.15 | OluapPlayer | Yes, what happened to those, why must every day be filled with politics instead |
| 17:13.10 | Cyrannian | Probably just IRC in general distracting people from fiction |
| 17:13.15 | Monet | They just seemed to...stop. |
| 17:14.12 | Hachiman | Everything got super cereal |
| 17:14.42 | Monet | The politics may have crept in as an increasing number of us became more attuned to watching the news (gone are the days for us when the news was the boring stuff only the adults would watch) |
| 17:15.01 | OluapPlayer | I'm not dwelling into this subject, it never ends well |
| 17:15.09 | OluapPlayer | Everyone knows my opinion already |
| 17:15.20 | Monet | Alright alright. |
| 17:15.39 | Cyrannian | dum dwell on searching the wiki for nominations |
| 17:16.05 | Hachiman | I nominate Oluap's Zarkhator pages |
| 17:16.25 | Cyrannian | rite |
| 17:16.59 | Monet | My point was, and I might have missed it, is if we miss the days when we talked about fiction, then why not try talking about fiction. |
| 17:17.43 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:January_2017:_Featured_Empire_Poll%26flow%3Dcreate-page-contribute-button - There, three nominations, add more if you'd like |
| 17:17.53 | Monet | I know I have only one fiction that I really use, but I like bringing it up because maybe, just maybe, the particular facet of it could start a discussion. maybe other people could come up with comparable ideas. |
| 17:18.33 | OluapPlayer | Some people would just rather spend 3 hours talking about politics and religion instead |
| 17:18.35 | Ghelae | Thinking about the low fiction activity reminds me of the fact that we haven't done any Genesis of Nightmares for three months. |
| 17:19.05 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:January_2017:_Featured_Empire_Poll - Use this link instead |
| 17:19.07 | OluapPlayer | Getting everyone online and available at once for that fiction is outright impossible |
| 17:19.13 | Hachiman | But I would rather talk about the political implications of the complexities of a barbarian religion on an IRC channel where it's not relevant ;-; |
| 17:19.25 | OluapPlayer | Not funny |
| 17:19.39 | Treebeard | ( http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gorge_Dispute http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Part_III:_Battle_of_Light_and_Dark http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neraida_War ) |
| 17:20.11 | Cyrannian | danke Treebeard |
| 17:20.22 | Cyrannian | Any nominations for featured character? |
| 17:20.51 | Monet | Well there's the productive optino and spendign three hours talking abotu fictionverse-related religion. |
| 17:20.57 | Monet | option* |
| 17:21.06 | Hachiman | Cyrannian: Eostraeya |
| 17:21.21 | Hachiman | Oh and Khara Greenforge hur |
| 17:21.26 | Hachiman | cus i gotta be egotistical |
| 17:21.38 | OluapPlayer | You're telling that to the wrong people you know |
| 17:21.57 | Cyrannian | rite |
| 17:22.24 | Cyrannian | If there is an ongoing conversation about real world religion, it's difficult to change the subject to fiction without appearing rude, however |
| 17:22.39 | Hachiman | We have an offtopic channel |
| 17:22.46 | Hachiman | We need to use it more |
| 17:22.51 | Monet | Maybe such action is sometimes required |
| 17:23.24 | Monet | http://www.coloredgirlconfidential.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/zoeypic.jpg I found this picture earlier today and hoenstly it's a vital idea when it comes to being creative. |
| 17:23.49 | OluapPlayer | Creativity is not the issue in this context |
| 17:25.03 | Treebeard | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Bisarko http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Guolivian http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nexar%C3%B3n_Valkistair |
| 17:25.29 | Cyrannian | It's all well and good talking about how great more fiction talk would be, but I'm a bit pessimistic about it. People hardly ever give feedback any more, despite this issue being raised a ton of times |
| 17:25.39 | Monet | I think the diagram still relates. |
| 17:25.42 | Cyrannian | And thanks for the nominations Treebeard! |
| 17:27.08 | Monet | Yeah the whole idea is reliant on others making an effort. |
| 17:28.11 | Monet | This is also one of those "don't wait for other people" situations. |
| 17:29.20 | Ghelae | Is there anything fiction-related that anyone would like to discuss now? |
| 17:29.38 | Xho | THE XHODOCTO WILL END YOU ALL IN 2023 |
| 17:29.55 | OluapPlayer | Nothing that would concern anyone here |
| 17:30.23 | Monet | Who cares if it doesn't, there's a small chance it might |
| 17:30.52 | OluapPlayer | I do, no discussion is better than a one-sided one |
| 17:31.01 | Xho | Wait so we're talking about how bad the IRC is now |
| 17:31.06 | Xho | As opposed to six months ago |
| 17:31.07 | Xho | Or a year |
| 17:31.29 | Monet | OluapPlayer: But that's boring. |
| 17:31.47 | Cyrannian | Well I'll be working on the final Cold War story today |
| 17:31.59 | Ghelae | Xho: Now as opposed to whenever it was that IRC would break out into random noncanon RPs. |
| 17:32.12 | Xho | More fun than super cereal discussions as Hachi put it |
| 17:32.19 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:January_2017:_Featured_Character_Poll |
| 17:32.27 | Xho | Maybe not as entertaining in 2017 but I'm talking relative |
| 17:32.28 | OluapPlayer | Fine. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eostraeya/Garden_of_the_Gods#Gardeners I made plant angels which only concern Hachi at this point |
| 17:33.22 | Monet | Xho: This is what I mean by saying it's been a "don't wait for other people" situation that took a year to happen. |
| 17:33.23 | Xho | Needs thorn demons |
| 17:34.58 | Xho | I've stopped bothering with the wiki because 99% of the time it's me talking to myself |
| 17:35.17 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Interesting how there's essentially a conflict/war between the Crux and Eostraeya |
| 17:36.06 | OluapPlayer | Goddess of plants vs god of flesh |
| 17:36.39 | Monet | life and growth vs consumption and beastial urges. |
| 17:37.34 | Hachiman | Goddess of life is also allies with the god of death |
| 17:37.41 | Monet | It'd be cool to see all the varied biomes that exist in the garden. Some beings might find a thick humid jungle to be beautiful. |
| 17:37.46 | Hachiman | Also brb because mother has me on a fucking goose chase for cigarettes |
| 17:38.38 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:January_2017:_Featured_Story_Poll |
| 17:38.46 | OluapPlayer | Eostraeya is allies with Mortium since she considers death as a natural part of the cycle of nature |
| 17:38.49 | Cyrannian | Finally, featured creatures, anyone? |
| 17:38.59 | OluapPlayer | And Mortium is fundamentally neutral anyway |
| 17:42.09 | Monet | The circle of life canot repeat itself without a way to start the cycle again. |
| 17:44.27 | Xho | Well I can see where I'm not wanted so I'm just gonna go |
| 17:44.48 | Cyrannian | wat |
| 17:44.49 | Monet | Right. |
| 17:45.02 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Southwhistle_Gnome - I'll nominate these guys |
| 17:45.19 | Ghelae | I was just about to nominate them but I misspelled "whistle". |
| 17:45.20 | OluapPlayer | Thanks |
| 17:45.49 | Monet | Well Rome was never built in a day. |
| 17:46.01 | Cyrannian | Exploring recent images is a good way to find nominations |
| 17:46.11 | Treebeard | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature%3AUgandalorian http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Loron |
| 17:46.29 | Cyrannian | I think the Loron may have already been nominated, but I'll check |
| 17:46.33 | Ghelae | I looked at the recentchanges in the creature namespace. |
| 17:46.50 | Cyrannian | Ah, that's probably a better idea |
| 17:47.23 | Ghelae | Then do "show grouped recent changes" (assuming that's not your default anyway) to read through it easier. |
| 17:47.26 | Monet | The hard part is if peopel want to restore the tiems of those conversations, we'll need to keep probing the waters no matter how empty the response is. |
| 17:47.37 | Cyrannian | Ah that's surprising, the Loron haven't been nominated yet |
| 17:48.09 | OluapPlayer | Really? |
| 17:48.16 | OluapPlayer | I'd have expected them to be one of the first |
| 17:48.19 | Cyrannian | Not according to the featured articles page |
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| 17:48.46 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 17:48.51 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 17:49.07 | Monet | Hello |
| 17:49.22 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 17:49.28 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:50.31 | Cyrannian | I'll nominate the Uplifted Cetacea too |
| 17:50.56 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:January_2017:_Featured_Creature_Poll |
| 17:51.00 | Cyrannian | dere |
| 17:51.43 | Hachiman | Back |
| 17:57.27 | Monet | I don't have reproducable data for it but I've found that a conversation is easier if responders get more in the IRC than a link and a funny line to draw attention. Narrowing the talking point can help considerably. |
| 17:58.07 | Hachiman | We've talked about this before and nothing works so no point carrying on this conversation |
| 17:58.28 | Hachiman | Everything there is to say on the topic has already been said |
| 17:59.43 | Monet | And the conclusion is nothing can be done. |
| 18:00.24 | Treebeard | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Spore_Origins for featured article? |
| 18:00.28 | OluapPlayer | I don't know what you're trying to say with that |
| 18:01.20 | Monet | Well if nothing presumably works what's the point in trying. Right? |
| 18:01.53 | Monet | We tried a monthly reading day and when was the last one we had? |
| 18:02.37 | OluapPlayer | The reading day was one thing that didn't work yes |
| 18:02.52 | OluapPlayer | But I don't get what you mean with link with a funny like |
| 18:03.08 | OluapPlayer | I only do that when I post actual jokes |
| 18:04.46 | Monet | If you want to encourage conversation, maybe more than a chapter link and a quick line to draw the eye is needed ot start a conversation. |
| 18:05.32 | OluapPlayer | I don't know what else you'd expect people to do other than a link with a summary |
| 18:05.49 | Hachiman | It works for the politics people so |
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| 18:08.06 | Monet | Well when it comes to big chapters or big pages, encouraging a talking subject could be helpful. |
| 18:15.01 | Cyrannian | Treebeard|Away: Good idea |
| 18:15.22 | Monet | But fine I'll stop talking. |
| 18:16.01 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 18:16.07 | Cyrannian | For me a funny line is better than nothing |
| 18:16.11 | Cyrannian | Hi Impy |
| 18:18.24 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: I wanted to talk to you yesterday and you didn't respond |
| 18:19.19 | ImpyDroid | Sorry, New Year party |
| 18:19.31 | ImpyDroid | I was kind of busy drinking and eating |
| 18:19.38 | ImpyDroid | Alright, what did you want to talk about? |
| 18:19.58 | OluapPlayer | I came up with a reason for Indricarron being a horrifying half-robot |
| 18:20.17 | ImpyDroid | Hmm? |
| 18:20.36 | OluapPlayer | We could say he was experimented on by Acolyte Finkaron, aka the Dracogonarious one |
| 18:21.02 | OluapPlayer | He's the scientific head of the Chosen so experimenting on a Champion in an attempt to make them stronger would be under his interests |
| 18:21.06 | ImpyDroid | Would make sense for Chosen to do a little bit of mad science |
| 18:21.21 | ImpyDroid | They are basically evil Indocs after all |
| 18:21.27 | OluapPlayer | Indeed |
| 18:21.48 | OluapPlayer | Geltastra herself wouldn't do this kind of thing, it wouldn't fit her |
| 18:22.33 | ImpyDroid | Makes sense |
| 18:23.04 | ImpyDroid | Could be an interesting section too, Divis and Indocs sneak on a Chosen planet |
| 18:23.04 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/40/Acolyte_Finkaron.png/revision/latest?cb=20160927224335 this guy is to blame for everything then |
| 18:23.10 | ImpyDroid | Suddenly giant rat |
| 18:23.18 | OluapPlayer | We could have the Indocs and Divinarium work together to bring him down |
| 18:23.50 | OluapPlayer | Thinking about it, the Chosen having no Dracogonarious characters until the remake is extremely weird |
| 18:24.00 | OluapPlayer | Dracogonarious or Spinkers even |
| 18:25.12 | ImpyDroid | Have a giant monster sewn together from several Spinners |
| 18:25.22 | ImpyDroid | Spinkers even |
| 18:25.27 | OluapPlayer | 2011 Oluap had a strange thought progress |
| 18:25.30 | OluapPlayer | And that sounds horrifying |
| 18:25.32 | OluapPlayer | Might do that |
| 18:36.56 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/scrooging |
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| 18:53.04 | Luxor | h a p p y n e w y e a r f o l k s |
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| 19:06.30 | OluapPlayer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:08.44 | ImpyDroid2 | Cyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/kqvjo3oh.jpg So I got this as a New Year present |
| 19:09.07 | Cyrannian | kewl, did you see my message? |
| 19:10.26 | ImpyDroid2 | Cyrannian: Which one? |
| 19:10.38 | ImpyDroid2 | Oh, about fiction |
| 19:10.43 | Cyrannian | You sent me a message about the Confederacy and I didn't receive it until recently |
| 19:12.06 | ImpyDroid2 | Ooh yeah, can we discuss this in PM? |
| 19:12.41 | Cyrannian | Sure |
| 19:40.47 | Cyrannian | Thinking about future job opportunities is stressful, I'm doing a MA in History, but I'm not sure that I'm really passionate about it |
| 19:43.20 | OluapPlayer | Should write an essay about dinosaurs |
| 19:44.09 | Monet | What drew you to studying history. |
| 19:44.54 | Cyrannian | I'm very good at writing essays for it, but that doesn't translate into a passion or strong interest |
| 19:46.16 | Monet | Well its possible you really like writing essays. Question is what subject interests you more. |
| 19:52.17 | Cyrannian | I'm currently looking at Zoology courses, even thinking about here on IRC, I doubt many people know that I'm doing a course on American history, given our conversations |
| 19:53.14 | OluapPlayer | dangit cyrannian you were meant to be free of the political taint |
| 19:54.13 | Technobliterator | That is hard to do when you study history |
| 19:54.19 | Monet | Agreed |
| 19:54.32 | Cyrannian | Yes though as I said, I'd much rather write an essay about evolution than history |
| 19:54.44 | Technobliterator | other than political science, it is probably the most full of political taint of any subject |
| 19:55.23 | Monet | Politics: Derived from Politikos (Greek) "Of or relating to the city" |
| 19:58.02 | Monet | Cyrannian: At least form my experience you tended ot be very vague about just what you were doing at university. |
| 19:58.46 | Cyrannian | I'm doing a masters degree in History in UCD, specialising in 20th century American history |
| 19:59.02 | The_Randomness | :o |
| 19:59.48 | Monet | Eyeahhh hard to avoid politics there |
| 20:00.11 | Cyrannian | Avoiding politics isn't the problem, I have an interest in it, but not a passion for it |
| 20:01.17 | Cyrannian | Since I'll be paying off â¬6000 for it over the next year or two, maybe it's too late to switch to something like Zoology |
| 20:01.24 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.37 | Monet | degree in zoology *slaps forehead* |
| 20:01.55 | OluapPlayer | Become a paleontologist and spend the rest of your life digging into mud hoping to find something comparable to a chicken bone |
| 20:01.57 | Cyrannian | Because I was always better academically with History rather than Biology, even though I have a greater interest in the latter |
| 20:03.19 | Monet | And studying the history of life is a cool combination of the two. |
| 20:05.53 | Cyrannian | Trouble with palaeontology is that I don't have a great interest in geology |
| 20:07.06 | OluapPlayer | watch out or wormy will eat your legs for that |
| 20:07.23 | Monet | To each his own really. |
| 20:07.52 | OluapPlayer | I got interested in geology after I started playing Dwarf Fortress but it looks goddamn complicated |
| 20:08.12 | Monet | Callign geology not a real science hwoever, that would incite Wormy to violence. |
| 20:08.37 | Wormy_ | Triggered |
| 20:08.40 | OluapPlayer | [TECTONED] |
| 20:08.58 | Wormy_ | Geology *is* complicated |
| 20:09.12 | Wormy_ | More complex than comp sci so far by my experience |
| 20:09.22 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 20:09.26 | OluapPlayer | Yeah I'm good hur |
| 20:10.28 | Monet | Complicated doesn't have to mean "avoid" |
| 20:10.39 | OluapPlayer | big scary words and names |
| 20:10.57 | Monet | *leans in* Kaolinite |
| 20:11.08 | OluapPlayer | eek |
| 20:11.15 | Monet | Magnetite :> |
| 20:11.25 | OluapPlayer | that's a good one, you can make iron out of it |
| 20:11.31 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: Palaeobiology might go into more biological and evolutionary concepts, but you'll still need to understand deposition and environmental geology |
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| 20:12.13 | Xho | Right, cooled down |
| 20:12.30 | Monet | These words are probably tame compared to certai nelements like einsteinium, rutherfordium, technicium |
| 20:12.32 | Monet | i |
| 20:12.38 | Monet | Molybdenium. |
| 20:12.47 | OluapPlayer | Before playing DF, never in my life did I hear terms like sedimentary, or flux, or metamorphic, or have rocks named things like serpentinite or garnierite or stibnite |
| 20:12.56 | Wormy_ | You should see structural geology terms then |
| 20:12.57 | OluapPlayer | As far as I'm concerned, all ground is rock |
| 20:13.24 | Cyrannian | I'm interested in zoology, though this course I'm looking at has mathematics and chemistry, both of which are a big no no to me |
| 20:13.47 | Monet | Knowing about sedimentary, metamorphic and igneous rock is part of the mandatory school science curriculum in the UK. |
| 20:13.53 | Xho | Cyrannian: Ever considered palaeontology |
| 20:13.58 | Wormy_ | Monet: https://www.soest.hawaii.edu/martel/Courses/GG303/Lecture_26_2005.pdf |
| 20:14.00 | Monet | Xho: Covered that |
| 20:14.28 | OluapPlayer | We have geography here, not geology |
| 20:14.33 | OluapPlayer | I definitely didn't hear there terms in schools |
| 20:15.05 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: Maybe look at ecology |
| 20:15.12 | Monet | Cyrannian: From what I understand, university-level biological studies require some chemsitry knowledge. |
| 20:15.28 | Xho | Chemistry's pretty fundamental to most sciences |
| 20:15.45 | OluapPlayer | The most I remember about geography class are tectonic plates and the rain cycle |
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| 20:16.14 | Taygame | Hey i'm back, i've improved since my ban and yes i created a new account, since i lost my old one's password and username and lost my old email. |
| 20:16.24 | Wormy_ | To be fair even ecology will use chemistry |
| 20:16.34 | OluapPlayer | Who are you |
| 20:16.35 | Wormy_ | Hello, who are you? |
| 20:16.49 | Xho | Satan |
| 20:17.13 | Monet | Prepare yer buttholes, this piece of chemistry http://www.mcponline.org/content/11/8/422/F2.large.jpg explains how organic bodies turn candy into energy. |
| 20:17.30 | Xho | Monet: Where does it start exactly |
| 20:17.35 | OluapPlayer | [science hisses over the distance] |
| 20:17.38 | Wormy_ | Monet, OluapPlayer: Check this abstract http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012825211001346 |
| 20:17.41 | Cyrannian | Ugh this is stressful |
| 20:17.46 | ImpyDroid2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.51 | Wormy_ | Not to put people off geology |
| 20:17.51 | Monet | Xho: Where it says glucose |
| 20:17.52 | ImpyDroid2 | Radixoid |
| 20:18.00 | ImpyDroid2 | Agglutination |
| 20:18.00 | Xho | Cyrannian: What are you trying to do anyway |
| 20:18.24 | Xho | ImpyDroid2: Deoxyribonucleic acid |
| 20:18.37 | Ghelaway | Monet, Xho: Glucose, galactose, and glutamine are the nutrients you eat, so it has three starts. |
| 20:18.39 | OluapPlayer | dats just dna |
| 20:18.41 | Cyrannian | Xho: I'm doing a masters degree in something that I'm good at, but not particularly interested in |
| 20:18.44 | ImpyDroid2 | Derivational-grammatical continuum |
| 20:18.47 | ImpyDroid2 | ^_^ |
| 20:18.51 | Xho | Which is what exactly |
| 20:18.55 | Cyrannian | And have no idea what I want to do in the futur |
| 20:18.58 | Cyrannian | *future |
| 20:19.09 | Cyrannian | Xho: History, with a focus on 20th century American history |
| 20:19.30 | Xho | ImpyDroid: Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis |
| 20:19.38 | Xho | Cyrannian: snooze |
| 20:19.42 | Monet | Doktor Xho. |
| 20:20.01 | Xho | I wouldn't have minded being a doctor actually |
| 20:20.13 | Xho | Although science and I don't get along all too well |
| 20:20.14 | OluapPlayer | aka volcano ash flu |
| 20:20.22 | Cyrannian | I mean people like Wormy are doing degrees in areas that they actively talk about here and have a great interest in (I assume) |
| 20:20.24 | Monet | But dat means medical school. |
| 20:20.27 | Xho | And that |
| 20:20.38 | Xho | Music's more down my alley |
| 20:20.43 | Wormy_ | puts on sunglasses *I'm doing a Masters now* |
| 20:20.50 | Taygame | I'm the guy who was banned, years ago for insulting one of the admins and messing with other people's pages i was the guy who argued with the anonymous user Shroober-1. |
| 20:20.50 | Xho | Although music theory is massively complicated in itself |
| 20:21.29 | ImpyDroid2 | BAN HIM AGAIN |
| 20:21.33 | ImpyDroid2 | BURN THE HERETIC |
| 20:21.41 | Wormy_ | Taygame: Did you have a user account. Please be honest and tell you who you are. |
| 20:21.46 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 20:21.49 | Wormy_ | *us who you |
| 20:21.50 | Monet | Cyrannian: Well we've got some clue, you like biology, a bit of history, and writing essays. What is is about history that fascinates you. |
| 20:21.51 | Hachiman | Ban him again |
| 20:21.59 | Xho | Eh I'd say give him another chance |
| 20:21.59 | ImpyDroid2 | Seriously though |
| 20:22.03 | Xho | Or her |
| 20:22.05 | Xho | I dunno |
| 20:22.10 | ImpyDroid2 | ^^^ Do not listen to Hachi |
| 20:22.14 | ImpyDroid2 | Just tell us your real name |
| 20:22.15 | Xho | We can't really afford to turn away users |
| 20:22.21 | ImpyDroid2 | As in your real original name |
| 20:22.27 | OluapPlayer | This decision is for the sysops to make |
| 20:22.31 | Monet | Cyrannian: Or at least, intrigued you enough to consider it. |
| 20:22.31 | OluapPlayer | Give us your old username |
| 20:22.42 | Ghelaway | Knowing the username would allow us to check the block log and see if it wasn't a perma-ban, at least. And if it wasn't, there's no argument to turn you away. |
| 20:23.13 | ImpyDroid2 | Yep |
| 20:23.20 | Cyrannian | Monet: Fascination is a strong word, yes, thinking back, it was simply because History was always my best subject. Plus, I graduated last semester with a first class honours degree |
| 20:23.21 | Technobliterator | My guess is Spartian |
| 20:23.23 | Wormy_ | And please, leave this to the sysops everyone. |
| 20:23.27 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 20:23.52 | Xho | LOL WHAT HAPPENED TO SYSOPS BEING USERS WITH EXTRA BUTTONS LOL |
| 20:24.04 | Xho | Seriously though fair enough |
| 20:24.05 | OluapPlayer | Was never true, shup |
| 20:24.43 | Monet | Cyrannian: I know the feeling. When I did my GCSEs I got an A in physics. |
| 20:24.43 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Wormy_chop] by ChanServ |
| 20:25.10 | Xho | Wormy_: Wait so you have to be Wormy_chop to be op'd |
| 20:25.28 | Technobliterator | He only registered as Wormy_chop |
| 20:25.29 | Wormy_ | I'm basically saying I don't find users are being constructive on IRC right now. |
| 20:25.34 | Ghelaway | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Shroober-1 doesn't give much clues as to who might have been arguing with them. Thunderlord maybe? |
| 20:25.51 | Technobliterator | Thunderlord was my second guess |
| 20:26.04 | Ghelaway | Thunderlord was banned for no more than a month, and that was the most recent ban. |
| 20:26.17 | Wormy_ | Taygame: If you don't tell us what your old account was, we can't trust you aren't a user who has been perma-banned. So please, tell us your old nick. |
| 20:26.24 | Technobliterator | Well, this guy types exactly the same way as Thunderlord |
| 20:26.31 | Monet | What helped me find the right path was to look at my childhood. I played a *lot* of RTSs and city-builders. This drew me to study architecture, when I didnt' feel that was rigth I looked into computer animation and excelled making at my first 3D city after getting to grips with the software. |
| 20:26.50 | Wormy_ | Taygame: Or rather, user account |
| 20:27.58 | Xho | Well that went quiet |
| 20:28.09 | Xho | That would be why |
| 20:28.15 | Cyrannian | That was strange. |
| 20:28.19 | Wormy_ | Probably because half the chat reacted in an unconstructive manner, "ban him" etc |
| 20:28.24 | Ghelaway | Thunderlord hasn't been banned since April and their last edit was in August. That being said, it's still the most likely identification. |
| 20:28.34 | Technobliterator | I reckon it is |
| 20:28.35 | OluapPlayer | He lost connection |
| 20:28.41 | Cyrannian | Ose once had a tool which could match IP addresses |
| 20:28.47 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 20:29.00 | Technobliterator | CheckUser |
| 20:29.16 | Wormy_ | I don't think I have those permissions. |
| 20:29.24 | Technobliterator | none of us do |
| 20:29.24 | Technobliterator | alas |
| 20:29.37 | Technobliterator | They type exactly the same way |
| 20:29.41 | Technobliterator | It has to be Thunderlord |
| 20:29.49 | ImpyDroid2 | Sorry :_: |
| 20:29.57 | Wormy_ | Anyway, if he doesn't give us his old user name I think we should ban him. |
| 20:30.05 | Technobliterator | I would be inclined to agree |
| 20:30.12 | OluapPlayer | Yarp |
| 20:30.14 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 20:30.39 | Cyrannian | He could be sockpuppeting |
| 20:30.42 | Wormy_ | If he does and he isn't perma-banned, obviously he gets a second chance and people welcome him back. |
| 20:31.18 | Xho | He is Thunderlord |
| 20:31.22 | Xho | Just messaged Oluap on the wiki |
| 20:31.33 | Cyrannian | Yeah, based on this too: http://sporum.wikia.com/wiki/Shroober-1?action=history |
| 20:31.42 | OluapPlayer | fngh y me |
| 20:31.44 | OluapPlayer | i hate people |
| 20:31.50 | Xho | cus u dum |
| 20:32.22 | Xho | Currently having another crisis with the Kicath again |
| 20:32.31 | Xho | I think it's just best if I leave them alone entirely |
| 20:32.37 | Xho | Can't decide shit |
| 20:33.23 | OluapPlayer | Wormy_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:218628 it'd be better if you talked to him rather than me |
| 20:33.29 | Xho | AAAAGH WHY DO I HAVE TO HAVE THESE THINGS |
| 20:33.35 | Wormy_ | Alright |
| 20:34.14 | Cyrannian | Since his ban has expired, you should probably tell him that he can use his old account |
| 20:34.36 | Hachiman | Ugh fucking banned users |
| 20:34.54 | Xho | Hachiman Monet ImpyDroid2: Okay I need help with the Kicath |
| 20:35.06 | Monet | Xho: I'm all eyes. |
| 20:35.07 | Xho | I'm at a loss on what to do with them |
| 20:35.20 | OluapPlayer | He said he lost his old account |
| 20:35.30 | OluapPlayer | May as well let him keep the new one |
| 20:35.41 | Hachiman | Dunno how I can help you with them to be honest but it depends on what ideas you've got for them |
| 20:35.43 | Monet | xho: Well it sounded like you had a decent idea before this latest panic. |
| 20:36.05 | Xho | Well the panic came after I realised that the main Kicath characters (Kithworto, Mu and Nu) would no longer be canon |
| 20:36.44 | Monet | Because of the rework regarding Kicath agents |
| 20:36.52 | Cyrannian | Why not simply work on Tuuros and work on entirely new fictions without changing the Kicath? |
| 20:37.07 | Xho | Well it's a bit late because Oluap's already removed the Kicath from Borealis |
| 20:37.11 | Xho | So I have to work around that |
| 20:37.41 | Xho | Why do I have to have a mental breakdown every five seconds |
| 20:37.41 | OluapPlayer | You're already on two more galaxies, you don't need to worry about that |
| 20:38.03 | Monet | Kith, Nu and Mu could still be Ancients. basically the Agents could be a force the Kicath call on when things *really* go to shit. |
| 20:38.18 | Xho | It's more to do with their personalities |
| 20:38.23 | Cyrannian | I've been kinda inactive lately, so what would you say the key problem is? |
| 20:38.27 | Monet | Oh. |
| 20:38.37 | Xho | Basically I removed the Kicath and in hindsight I shouldn't have |
| 20:38.46 | Xho | Because now it's a huge, white noise of a mess |
| 20:39.04 | Cyrannian | Is the reason why you removed them in the first place still an issue for you? |
| 20:39.38 | Monet | Xho: Breathe deeply. Slow inhalation, then eject the stress though a strong exhalation. |
| 20:40.27 | Xho | Yes |
| 20:40.34 | Xho | Basically whatever I do causes a problem |
| 20:40.52 | Xho | If I put them back in I have to figure out fiction stories for them from 2754 onwards |
| 20:41.01 | Xho | That's nearly 100 years of fiction story there |
| 20:41.04 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Can I tell you an Eastenders spoiler? |
| 20:41.22 | Hachiman | Sure |
| 20:41.44 | Xho | Everything's in a bit of a mess basically |
| 20:41.46 | Wormy_ | Roxie and Ronnie drowned together in a swimming pool on the night of Ronnie's wedding |
| 20:41.59 | Wormy_ | It was gruesome as fuck as sahe was dragged down by her wedding dress |
| 20:42.15 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 20:42.17 | Monet | Xho: Maybe working at the Agency could be an advantage. Missions they've been on are esentially top-level classified |
| 20:43.18 | Wormy_ | http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a818030/roxy-ronnie-mitchell-eastenders-exit-twitter-reactions/ |
| 20:43.36 | Xho | Doing a magic revert to a month ago would be nice but I've done too much damage to myself for that |
| 20:44.03 | Monet | As in psychological damage? |
| 20:44.12 | Xho | Wiki damage |
| 20:44.24 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 20:44.25 | Monet | I might disagree. |
| 20:44.30 | Xho | I'm pretty sure I'm on the periphery of the wiki's spectrum atm |
| 20:45.26 | Monet | Being on the periphery has its advantages. |
| 20:45.31 | Xho | Not only that but because the Kicath aren't canon that means there's a hole where Tantum is now |
| 20:45.44 | Xho | Which means there's a hole everywhere |
| 20:46.33 | Monet | The beautiful thing about fiction is with enough perseverence, determination, and coffee, there are few things beyond restoration. |
| 20:47.13 | Monet | It all depends on how determined you can psyche yourself to make it work. |
| 20:47.34 | Xho | Well the damage I've done to my fiction is near enough irreversible |
| 20:47.49 | Monet | You asked for a few pages to be deleted. |
| 20:48.02 | Xho | Well I mean the Kicath |
| 20:48.09 | Monet | A few mentions to be removed. And relatively recently too. |
| 20:49.07 | Monet | So the reputational damage of the Kicath. |
| 20:50.28 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Murray (32b8eef8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.184.238.248) |
| 20:50.43 | Monet | I say roll with it. The Alevolar Covenant for instance. It's already unpopular both at home and abroad, the Kicath can always work to reverse the fallout of the error. |
| 20:50.57 | Xho | I guess |
| 20:51.30 | Monet | With the PCA retcon well I'm sure the Kicath could still be involved with them as allies. Very close ones perhaps. |
| 20:51.50 | Xho | Something I'm not confident is going to work |
| 20:52.07 | Charles_Murray | Oh? What's being discussed? |
| 20:52.17 | Monet | Where would things be most problematic. |
| 20:52.27 | Xho | The Kicath being removed from fiction being a bad idea |
| 20:52.50 | Xho | It ultimately depends on how much Oluap wants to do with it |
| 20:52.56 | Xho | As far as I can gather, nothing |
| 20:53.07 | OluapPlayer | Why me |
| 20:53.16 | Xho | Case in point |
| 20:53.55 | Monet | Hmm. |
| 20:55.14 | Xho | Since the Kicath are no longer in Borealis it makes most of the old fiction including Kicath exceptionally bent out of shape |
| 20:55.20 | Xho | Except for the Borealis War remake |
| 20:55.23 | Xho | Okay not that much |
| 20:56.13 | Xho | Basic conclusion is that I have to remake Tantum |
| 20:56.29 | Monet | Well they could still cooperate with borealis factions. |
| 20:56.44 | OluapPlayer | I don't really want involvement with the Kicath |
| 20:56.47 | Xho | Depending on whether Oluap wants that to -- see |
| 20:56.54 | Monet | Ahh |
| 20:56.58 | OluapPlayer | You have all of the Milky Way and Andromeda to work with |
| 20:57.07 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Tales_of_the_Cold_War#15_NE - Take a look, new story |
| 20:57.14 | Monet | Most of what goes on in Tantum takes place in Segmentum Adniliho or on one of the other planes of reality. |
| 20:57.17 | Xho | Since Borealis was their key element they're all but soulless now |
| 20:57.32 | OluapPlayer | They never did anything relevant in Borealis other than living there |
| 20:58.04 | Xho | Well they had Penumbran associates |
| 20:58.07 | Monet | never quite understood why they kept going back to the PCA council when the AGC could have much more conveniently provided relief and supplies. |
| 20:58.11 | Xho | Which I don't get why Kamaris was removed |
| 20:58.36 | OluapPlayer | You quit all your fiction, I fixed the holes you left |
| 20:58.45 | Xho | hm |
| 20:59.44 | OluapPlayer | As far as the associates are concerned it can be said they just moved on with their lives and left |
| 20:59.57 | Xho | Fair enough, that probably would have been the case |
| 21:00.28 | Xho | Kilcharunya never ultimately understood the benevolence of the matter |
| 21:00.50 | Xho | Kit and Kamaris on the other hand I don't know |
| 21:00.50 | OluapPlayer | Outside of Vyatak and Dolgan, all of Vekaron's current associates are technically family members |
| 21:01.03 | OluapPlayer | Vyatak is there by choice, Dolgan is technically there to not go to prison |
| 21:01.11 | Monet | As I understand it, Pneumbran associates are private contractors often in it for more than a paycheck. |
| 21:01.20 | Xho | I would've thought Kamaris had stayed, Kit may have left |
| 21:01.41 | Xho | Kamaris abandoned his Order in favour of the Penumbrans from what I remember |
| 21:02.25 | Hachiman | Could have gone back to retake his Order? |
| 21:02.29 | OluapPlayer | Canonwise that happened 20 years ago, plenty of time for him to move on to his own goals rather than remain as a subordinate |
| 21:02.37 | Xho | Hm |
| 21:02.40 | Hachiman | Or just retired from active service altogether |
| 21:02.48 | OluapPlayer | Or taht |
| 21:02.53 | Monet | Was going to say maybe he became an instructor or founded his own group. |
| 21:03.01 | Xho | 450 is pretty young for a Mahanayan still |
| 21:03.13 | Xho | Or thereabouts |
| 21:03.21 | Hachiman | Well, Borealis is approaching an era of peace; meanwhile Andromeda is going back to being a shithole |
| 21:03.27 | Xho | lel |
| 21:03.30 | Hachiman | So there's more work there if he needs it |
| 21:03.42 | Xho | I guess Kamaris going to Andromeda makes sense |
| 21:04.28 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Interesting, I imagine that made the Republic unhappy |
| 21:04.51 | Xho | That leaves Kilcharunya and Kit I guess |
| 21:05.05 | Xho | If the Kicath have never set foot in Borealis it makes it hard for them to exist |
| 21:05.38 | OluapPlayer | They're individuals, not a whole empire |
| 21:05.46 | Xho | Hm |
| 21:06.03 | Xho | Still not entirely sure where they'd have gone after the end of Ice Age |
| 21:06.29 | Monet | New jobs? Striking it out on their own? |
| 21:06.38 | OluapPlayer | Kicath characters may have done something here and there, but the actual civilization didn't participate in any stories set in Borealis |
| 21:06.54 | Xho | Kit would stay on the more virtuous path, possibly having gone with Kamaris |
| 21:07.09 | Xho | Kilcharunya though isn't a virtuous character and probably descended back into criminality or bounty hunting again |
| 21:07.21 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: Yes, though they don't know exactly who did it (though they suspect) |
| 21:07.25 | Monet | Kilcharunya - Onwards to wherever the nearest spaceport takes me! |
| 21:08.04 | Xho | More than likely out of Penumbran jurisdiction so there wouldn't be any awkward run ins with Vekaron |
| 21:08.32 | Monet | Andromeda is lovely this time of decade. |
| 21:08.53 | Xho | Just when I thought it was a good idea to resurface the Xhodocto's forces |
| 21:09.49 | Hachiman | "Underwater seems like the one place on earth you'd actually be safe from spiders. But you couldnât be more wrong." |
| 21:10.43 | Monet | Xho: Seems convenient mostly |
| 21:11.03 | Xho | Hez - JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT ANDROMEDA COULDN'T GET ANY WORSE |
| 21:12.13 | Monet | Or we could try revitalising action in the Milky Way |
| 21:12.43 | Monet | Kil on a Milky Way road trip could potentially be fun. |
| 21:12.51 | Xho | I suppose it could |
| 21:13.39 | Monet | Kil - All the doors in this galaxy are tiny. |
| 21:14.03 | Xho | Although what to do with the nice shiny Kicath models |
| 21:14.04 | Xho | hm |
| 21:14.52 | Monet | Maybe they're a group of Kicath the likes of Kil and kit prefer to avoid at all costs. |
| 21:15.22 | Xho | inb4 Kicathian Overlords |
| 21:16.23 | Monet | Well I imagine they like at least some level of control over the 'younger' races of Kicathian society. |
| 21:19.58 | Xho | They kind of look ancient |
| 21:20.35 | Xho | Might be a fiction opportunity |
| 21:21.23 | Monet | name: Agent Alpha, Occupation: Agent Commander, D.o.B.: Gods know. |
| 21:21.45 | Xho | At the moment I will probably keep the Agents the same as they were |
| 21:21.50 | Xho | I might use those models as something else |
| 21:22.12 | Xho | Ancient Kicathian warlords perhaps |
| 21:24.04 | Monet | could be. |
| 21:25.57 | Xho | For what purpose they'd serve, not so sure |
| 21:26.55 | Xho | So half a month of going nuts and I'm back to square one |
| 21:26.56 | Xho | gg |
| 21:28.31 | Monet | Well you're at least a little calmer. Right? |
| 21:31.48 | Monet | If it helps I've known classmates who struggle for over a month to develop simply a project idea. |
| 21:32.54 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (8ea6d7d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.166.215.208) |
| 21:33.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 21:33.29 | Monet | hi |
| 21:36.48 | Monet | Xho: Actualyl I wouldn't say you're entirely back to square one. We answered how to link the Kicath after severing them from Borealis. |
| 21:38.38 | DrodoEmpire | I'ma play BMS for a bit or something |
| 21:39.20 | DrodoEmpire | Also I should be 100% back to the wiki tomorrow-- You guys might've noticed that I haven't been around as much recently and that's because my siblings were back and I spent time with them |
| 21:40.07 | OluapPlayer | drodo was busy with babysitting |
| 21:41.20 | OluapPlayer | Perhaps I should also leave it warned then. Starting tomorrow I'll be less active myself |
| 21:41.41 | Xho | ded rip |
| 21:41.48 | Xho | y tho |
| 21:41.59 | OluapPlayer | I'll start working with my mom because I couldn't find a proper job in a year so I'm not sure how much access to the wiki I'll have during weedays |
| 21:42.03 | OluapPlayer | weekdays* |
| 21:42.15 | OluapPlayer | Hopefully I'll still be able to get in |
| 21:42.22 | Xho | Getting out of the house is good |
| 21:42.42 | OluapPlayer | Getting out of the house is Satan in several different flavours |
| 21:42.46 | OluapPlayer | I'll probably not be paid |
| 21:43.31 | Xho | Ask your mum's co-workers to see if they know anyone who can get you a job |
| 21:44.17 | OluapPlayer | My mom's only co-worker is her boyfriend |
| 21:44.23 | OluapPlayer | It's a 2-man micro company |
| 21:44.41 | Xho | Wow threw me a curveball there |
| 21:54.31 | *** join/#sporewiki drom (~drom@unaffiliated/drom) |
| 21:59.06 | *** join/#sporewiki drom (~drom@unaffiliated/drom) |
| 21:59.25 | drom | Jesus christ fucking mother on a bike |
| 21:59.40 | drom | IRC is acting terribly on my end |
| 22:00.42 | drom | Every other service is doing fine |
| 22:01.14 | drom | Also, hi. |
| 22:03.32 | Xho | Hi |
| 22:03.35 | drom | I've taken a notice at how articles of races, species and other lifeform fluff are constructed. |
| 22:05.25 | drom | Basically, it is pretty much a pharagraph of brief text summarizing the lifeforms in interest. Then a large picture/thumbnail of the said lifeform on the right side. |
| 22:05.31 | drom | No infobox. Wikipedia is being an exception to this. |
| 22:05.31 | drom | Followed by all other content |
| 22:17.33 | drom | That gives me an vague idea on how I should sketch the Kurinnurii, instead of modelling them |
| 22:18.38 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0cd9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.205.157) |
| 22:19.33 | drom | https://68.media.tumblr.com/cd8f1fb3ef9686bdc573dcc50b4d9b50/tumblr_ohqc3g53Kk1qhfadgo1_540.png |
| 22:19.33 | drom | ImpyDroid2 |
| 22:19.33 | drom | For science |
| 22:21.09 | ImpyDroid2 | drom: Furries in Germany |
| 22:21.11 | ImpyDroid2 | Wait what |
| 22:21.57 | drom | There is a map service that pinpoints locations of furries |
| 22:26.01 | ImpyDroid2 | As in is Germany known for its many furries? |
| 22:26.26 | ImpyDroid2 | OluapPlayer: Ooh a family business |
| 22:30.18 | Hachiman | Yes, family business; as in he doesn't get paid |
| 22:33.35 | drom | Cyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/SqM2MRd.gifv |
| 22:34.04 | Cyrannian | hur |
| 22:35.12 | drom | I also like those camoflage ponchos |
| 22:39.35 | Hachiman | Are you forgetting TR8-0R |
| 22:40.32 | OluapPlayer | He lost tho |
| 22:48.34 | Hachiman | Only because of Chewbacca |
| 22:48.40 | Hachiman | He kicked Finn's ass otherwise |
| 22:49.52 | Liquid_Ink | But that wasn't with good aim, just a supeior thumping club |
| 22:51.10 | drom | I guess Startroopers always roll '2's at AIM skill check |
| 22:51.51 | drom | Cyrannian: http://i.imgur.com/w9pYeKu.jpg |
| 23:08.28 | Liquid_Ink | http://68.media.tumblr.com/0cd1aa4c62e7f1df65eac2e8b8a1d4de/tumblr_oj2scvRjgK1vt8xh3o1_540.jpg |
| 23:23.11 | Xho | sO |
| 23:23.12 | Xho | So |
| 23:23.14 | Xho | Arma 3 is hard |
| 23:26.36 | Xho | Almost like Dark Souls bit with guns |
| 23:26.39 | Xho | but |
| 23:33.10 | drom | Xho: Specially helicopters, am I right |
| 23:33.27 | Xho | Just the AI |
| 23:33.33 | Xho | Man they're tough |
| 23:34.05 | drom | If you try multiplayer. Expect to get spanked by players in jets. |
| 23:35.30 | Hachiman | >not playing multiplayer |
| 23:36.59 | OluapPlayer | >playing multiplayer |
| 23:50.20 | Xho | lol fuck multiplayer |
| 23:55.14 | Wormy_ | test |
| 23:56.02 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: A lot of people are complaining Roxie and Ronnie died too easily, not realising being drunk + having a wedding dress are a bad recipe for swimming |
| 23:56.20 | Hachiman | Fucking ingrates |
| 23:56.22 | Xho | Typical soap death lel |
