00:00.09 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
00:00.22 | ImpyDroid | His madness being the result of incest magnifying the traditional Skywalker whininess to stellar size |
00:00.28 | ImpyDroid | It is more of a joke theory really |
00:00.35 | Monet | But isn't that full on incest? |
00:00.44 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Exactly |
00:01.03 | ImpyDroid | Whiny genes + whiny genes + incest magnifying whiny genes |
00:01.09 | ImpyDroid | = Kylo Ren |
00:01.13 | drom | Hachiman ImpyDroid: https://static1.e621.net/data/32/89/32899880e1b8b77ef85b9f83043b2a35.gif |
00:01.21 | ImpyDroid | Double Anakin genetics cause double whininess |
00:01.31 | ImpyDroid | >e621 |
00:01.39 | ImpyDroid | >e fucking 621 |
00:01.47 | Monet | Luke iirc stopped fawning over Leia after he realised "shit we're related" |
00:01.54 | ImpyDroid | You tread in dangerous waters drom |
00:02.03 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Should we beat him to death? |
00:02.27 | Monet | Wait a minute |
00:02.31 | drom | ImpyDroid: I've a furry friend who tread these waters for me. |
00:02.39 | ImpyDroid | Oh wait the Gadsden Flag |
00:02.42 | Monet | Leia is fucking badass |
00:02.58 | ImpyDroid | Sorry I am not into libertarian girls |
00:05.51 | Monet | Leia takes after Padme "led a. Rainbow Six assault on my own castle" Amidala |
00:06.46 | ImpyDroid | Fucking Naboo government system |
00:06.57 | ImpyDroid | FUCKING NABOO GOVERNMENT SYSTEM |
00:07.55 | Monet | "Hey do you know what's a great age for a mayor to be? Twelve" |
00:07.56 | ImpyDroid | FUCKING ELECTED 14 YEAR OLD QUEEN |
00:10.15 | drom | ImpyDroid: But yeah. I promise I do not visit or browse e621. I get these links second-hand. |
00:10.16 | Liquid_Ink | Why do they even use monarchist titles for an elected official? |
00:10.50 | ImpyDroid | BECAUSE FUCKING LUCAS |
00:11.18 | ImpyDroid | Although admittedly elected kings was a thing |
00:11.30 | ImpyDroid | But then why elect a 16 year old girl |
00:11.53 | drom | Some answers maybe should remain unanswered. |
00:12.06 | drom | Pardon |
00:12.11 | drom | Some questions maybe should. |
00:12.18 | drom | Remain unanswered. |
00:12.19 | Monet | Liquid: Ask the Germans |
00:12.51 | Monet | the Holy Roman emperor was elected |
00:13.06 | ImpyDroid | Yeah but he was elected for life by the elite |
00:13.10 | Liquid_Ink | Wasn't he elected by monarchist electors though? |
00:13.21 | ImpyDroid | elected by other kings |
00:14.56 | Monet | Used to be only landowners could vote even in the 1700s |
00:15.14 | Monet | 1800s possibly not sure |
00:15.41 | ImpyDroid | True but we have not seen any kind of council of nobles or the like |
00:17.27 | Monet | What about Venice? |
00:18.07 | ImpyDroid | Doge is not a monarchic title |
00:18.55 | Monet | It means duke |
00:19.25 | Monet | Not monarchic but definitely aristocratic |
00:24.06 | Monet | Or Lucas wanted to make Naboo a progressive monarchy because good guys |
00:25.05 | Monet | And we needed another space princess |
00:26.11 | Monet | Because all the cool space operas have space princesses |
00:26.20 | drom | Speaking of monarchies and dynaties. I found this little cute game named Regins. You play as a king who makes big decisions to ensure your standing on the throne for years and years. |
00:29.14 | drom | When you die or lose the throne, you play as a new king. |
00:29.30 | drom | And it is considered a curse |
00:30.36 | drom | Anyway. Space princesses, space kings. |
00:30.48 | drom | It seems to be a common concept for human empires in Sci-Fi settings. |
00:31.18 | Monet | It's a space opera tradition |
00:31.24 | drom | I guess. |
00:32.00 | drom | It amazes me how it is convicning that it is the future of the mankind. To become a space monarchy. |
00:32.32 | Monet | Consider the first half of IV was essentially "save the princess from the castle" |
00:32.51 | drom | Whose father tries to impress on her. |
00:34.28 | drom | As if it an attempt into incest. |
00:34.40 | Monet | I like to see IV as the weird early instalment |
00:34.53 | drom | How so? |
00:35.35 | Monet | When it was made it was intended to be rather standalone |
00:35.59 | drom | Oh |
00:36.25 | drom | Now I think about it, it has been a while since I watched the old Star Wars movies. |
00:37.04 | Monet | you also have the emperor's hand as answering to the grand admiral of the navy and talk that sounds like the Empire is much older than19 years |
00:37.41 | drom | Probably because of it being an illusion a la Orwellian nightmare. |
00:38.35 | drom | Sorry. But I must go to bed and have my sleep. |
00:38.41 | drom | Laters! |
00:39.20 | Monet | also what kind of conflict name is 'the clone wars' |
00:42.21 | Tek0516 | Clone Wars was mentioned by name in Episode IV though. |
00:42.48 | Monet | This is what I mean |
00:43.26 | Monet | the name came from a line in Leia's message |
00:43.51 | Tek0516 | Actually I think Luke mentioned it? |
00:44.00 | Liquid_Ink | They both do |
00:44.18 | Liquid_Ink | Leia: "Years ago you served my father in the clone wars..." |
00:44.23 | Tek0516 | Right. |
00:44.27 | Liquid_Ink | Luke: "You fought in the clone wars?" |
00:45.15 | Tek0516 | Of course the real answer to any irregularities/oddities regarding prequels is becuase Lucas never planned for them originally. :P |
00:45.51 | Liquid_Ink | Yep. Despite what he claims, it's pretty obvious he was making it up as he wnet |
00:45.55 | Monet | And considering the events of the Prequels surely Owen or Beru must have told Luke stories of the Jedi |
00:46.23 | Liquid_Ink | I think I heard in an interview somewhere that when Yoda said "No, there is another" they hadn't even figured out that that was Leia yet. |
00:47.16 | Monet | He gave a cryptic hint, it's part of his character |
00:48.03 | Liquid_Ink | As in the writers hadn't figured it out |
00:48.03 | Monet | then we get the merchandising turd that is VI |
00:49.12 | Tek0516 | Yeah, I know the sibling thing was added later |
00:49.36 | Tek0516 | I think the Luke/Vader connection was originally planned at least. |
00:49.39 | Liquid_Ink | You know, once you get past the Ewoks' obvious kid-appeal nature, they're pretty cool |
00:50.19 | Liquid_Ink | I mean a stone-age people rising up and destroying a legion of space-age elite soldiers is awesome |
00:50.29 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Who's this Sephiroth-looking motherfucker |
00:50.43 | Hachiman | Ravus or whatever |
00:51.16 | Tek0516 | I think I'd heard that originally the Emperor wasn't supposed to be powerful like he was, but rather more like a puppet ruler or such. |
00:51.24 | Monet | Htorihpes |
00:54.04 | Monet | So.... Endor was The battle of Rourke's Drift? |
01:00.55 | Monet | I'm willing to accept the reset button VII pressed as another homage to space opera |
01:01.51 | Monet | how many times did Flash Gordan save Mongo from Ming the Merciless? |
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05:35.15 | TetrisD_ | Or did I join when everyone's silent? |
05:36.21 | TetrisD_ | I joined when everyone's silent. |
05:36.30 | TetrisD_ | Great |
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06:20.40 | TetrisD | Hi |
06:21.12 | TetrisD | Well, it was worth a try... I guess... |
06:21.35 | TetrisD | But still AFK |
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09:02.29 | NeonPanda | hi |
09:03.20 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
09:04.02 | NeonPanda | Fantasy games make you consider things that would otherwise be quite silly; in this case the potential for weaponising lightning bolts against the sails of Age of Sail shipping |
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09:11.27 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
09:13.50 | NeonPanda | hey dino |
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09:17.21 | dino82_ | Hi All! |
09:17.24 | dino82_ | Howz all doing |
09:18.31 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty well, how about you? |
09:20.03 | NeonPanda | I'm doing fine, ate way too much at christmas |
09:29.06 | dino82_ | Great tohear! Me as well, had a wonderful christmasday yesterday |
09:29.17 | dino82_ | @Panda: whaha me too, I think that is mandatory at christmas :D |
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11:21.48 | dino82_ | hi |
11:25.52 | NeonPanda | hi all |
11:26.13 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
11:26.46 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: I had another evil Pathfinder related idea while up the coast for christmas, this time inspired by Warhammer 40'000 |
11:27.13 | OluapPlayer | Elaborate |
11:29.59 | NeonPanda | context: Electropriests of Mars. Two varieties: Corpuscarii, who basically get turned into giant batteries and shoot lightning out of their hands at people, |
11:30.18 | NeonPanda | and Fulgurites, who whack people with giant copper sticks that sap the bioelectricity out of living things. |
11:30.48 | NeonPanda | When they get all bro-y, they do this thing where the Corpuscarii electrocute guys, then the Fulgurites run in and suck all the electricity back out and shoot it back off to the Corpuscarii, and the process repeats |
11:31.13 | NeonPanda | each time this happens, the bolts of lightning coming out of the Corpuscarii becoming a little bit stronger |
11:31.39 | NeonPanda | now imagine something similar to this, but with you and me |
11:32.01 | OluapPlayer | Well that does sound like an evil thing to do |
11:33.14 | NeonPanda | and by this I mean, I zappy zappy, you punchy punchy, and by means of magic items shenanigans this circle leads to a cycle of much zapping followed by much punching |
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11:37.04 | NeonPanda | hi Monet |
11:37.19 | Monet | Hi |
11:37.32 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
11:37.57 | NeonPanda | in order to burn off the accumulated Pathfinder nonsense that has been swimming around in my head while I had no real internet connection, I believe I have figured out a somewhat shenanigans way to make that first lightning ability you get a tad more powerful |
11:38.45 | NeonPanda | specifically, the Sleet Storm spell technically counts as stormy weather, in which circumstance the aforementioned lightning bolts go up a dice in damage |
11:39.17 | NeonPanda | aaaand that's my urge to talk about Pathfinder expended, so I won't talk more about that unless invited |
11:41.37 | OluapPlayer | Fair enough |
11:47.15 | NeonPanda | needless to say, when I have no internet to play games I read big books about games and do far too much thinking about them XD |
11:51.18 | Monet | Stories are a playground for the mind |
11:51.40 | NeonPanda | indeed they are |
11:53.04 | dino82_ | Hi |
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12:13.39 | ImpyDroid | Hu |
12:13.55 | drom | Mu |
12:14.43 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink Monet: My sister got a large globe as a present for Catholic Christmas for some reason (I presume some of our acquaintances are Protestant) and she keeps studying it |
12:14.56 | ImpyDroid | She studied North America a lot for some reason |
12:14.57 | Liquid_Ink | Cool |
12:15.10 | ImpyDroid | And provided a number of... conclusions |
12:15.32 | ImpyDroid | "Why can't Mexicans go to Canada first and then go to America?" |
12:16.09 | ImpyDroid | "What if Mexicans swimmed through that *points at the Caribbean* and bypassed the border wall?" |
12:16.38 | Ghelae | Does she assume the Mexicans would swim to Canada too? |
12:17.24 | ImpyDroid | Yes. She first asked if Mexicans could use submarines, but I explained it would be too expensive |
12:18.04 | ImpyDroid | Oh and there was that gwm |
12:18.05 | ImpyDroid | gem |
12:18.36 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: "If America had a Soviet Union, it would include this! *points at Canada* and this! *points at Alaska*" |
12:19.10 | Liquid_Ink | Nice |
12:19.17 | drom | I'm still betting that if Russia would invade USA and occupy one single state. It would be Alaska |
12:19.18 | NeonPanda | did you explain that Alaska is already a part of America? |
12:19.21 | drom | Because the oil. |
12:26.06 | ImpyDroid | Yes, earlier on |
12:26.24 | ImpyDroid | It took her some time to understand it |
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12:27.57 | Wormy_ | hi |
12:28.02 | Ghelae | Hello. |
12:32.17 | Wormy_ | 600 bottles of skooma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRTUReLBWHA |
12:36.31 | NeonPanda | This one has unlocked fast travel. |
12:38.05 | dino82_ | New station, starbase 25: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1e/Starbase25LArge.png/revision/latest?cb=20161226123722 |
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12:49.08 | dino82_ | test |
12:49.10 | drom | dino82_: Not enough sat dishes, 0/10 |
12:49.19 | dino82_ | @drom: Lol :D |
12:49.32 | dino82_ | the attenaes have dishes as well! |
12:50.26 | Monet | That's...quite a model |
12:51.55 | drom | I guess it is because they want the full media coverage |
12:52.11 | dino82_ | @drom: Exactly! So they end the QHoloNet all over the Gigaquadrant :P |
12:53.35 | drom | Meanwhile in a distant galaxy. The other inhabitants are confused why "Star Truckers" is the most popular show in GQ |
12:58.43 | dino82_ | Whahah |
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13:07.06 | dino82_ | hi |
13:08.36 | drom | Hey Imperios |
13:08.41 | drom | Want some krokodil? |
13:10.14 | Imperios | rots off |
13:10.48 | Wormy__ | And bath salts to take the edge off |
13:13.05 | drom | So I can cut myself with it. |
13:34.41 | dino82_ | the legenda: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/40/RAMBattlePlate.png/revision/latest?cb=20161226133213 |
13:37.52 | Wormy__ | Love the detail |
13:49.55 | dino82_ | thnxs! |
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15:11.41 | drom | Imperios: https://68.media.tumblr.com/c8112243315dff34810862df04412869/tumblr_n3yxytniIG1qe1txqo1_540.jpg |
15:19.47 | Imperios | drom: But they're Rambos |
15:20.09 | drom | Rambo confirmed Australian |
15:27.19 | drom | dino82's Rambos confirmed being space Australians |
16:16.07 | Imperios | Wormy__ drom Ghelae: http://knizhnik.org/covers/page-5978-dubchek-padavan.jpg That is an actual book released in Russia |
16:16.56 | drom | a blyad |
16:17.51 | drom | On the other side. I had fun learning coloring and shading. http://i.imgur.com/GgP8iC2.png |
16:56.46 | Tek0516 | Drom: https://i.redd.it/67dzmncglu5y.png |
16:57.35 | Tek0516 | Wormy__ too |
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17:15.19 | Hachiman | Hi |
17:16.36 | drom | Tek0516: olol |
17:45.19 | Imperios | Hachiman drom: I just realised something |
17:45.49 | Imperios | There's a Russian proverb that serves as a near-perfect descrption of Tumblr |
17:46.14 | Imperios | It literally translates as "to be angry out of fat" |
17:46.45 | Imperios | Meaning, "not to be content with what you currently have, because you have so much already" |
17:46.59 | Imperios | Though, the literal meaning of the phrase also applies |
17:47.38 | drom | Considering the most tumblrites are depicted as fat women with clicque decoration? |
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17:50.47 | Jepardi | Hi |
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18:17.35 | Tek0516 | <PROTECTED> |
18:26.34 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/political-philosophy |
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18:37.08 | Xho | 3/10 ded irc m8 |
18:39.22 | OluapPlayer | I just got in a minute before you |
18:39.50 | Xho | 4.5/10 not as ded irc m8 |
18:45.21 | Xho | I had the idea of adding Harpies to the Fantasyverse if we didn't already |
18:46.34 | OluapPlayer | Hachi was going to but never did |
18:46.48 | Xho | get rekt rabbit |
18:47.24 | Xho | I had a bit of the lore floating around already |
18:48.12 | Xho | The basis was that they are worshippers of avian deities and had separate city states/tribes based on that possibly |
18:49.00 | Xho | The elder tribes/city states worship Soldalatel and Nalashtannylor and thus are at some religious war with one another |
18:49.26 | Xho | As they believe that they are the children of the Phoenixes although they probably never had any connection to the Phoenixes whatsoever |
18:50.31 | Xho | My current predicament is 1) What they actually look like 2) Where they are located |
18:51.23 | Xho | As to whether they're more bird or more humanoid |
19:17.08 | Xho | oh ffs |
19:17.10 | Xho | Spore crashed |
19:17.26 | Xho | Well I'm not bothering with that now |
19:32.07 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: So who's this Ravus guy |
19:32.14 | Hachiman | He's a Sephiroth-looking motherfucker |
19:32.53 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://cs5.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2015/07/07/7/1436265940_797829913.jpeg |
19:33.09 | Hachiman | hur |
19:55.41 | Imperios | Ghelae: can you tell me when Cyr comes? |
19:56.28 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, Ravus is Luna's brother but he's with the Empire |
19:56.32 | Technobliterator | He's not the main villain |
20:02.47 | Ghelae | If I'm here at the time, Imp, yes I'll tell you. |
20:04.03 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Right; I also love how you can just totally reject Iris |
20:04.10 | Hachiman | She's such an annoying thirsty bitch |
20:04.33 | Technobliterator | haha yeah |
20:04.36 | Technobliterator | I did that |
20:04.41 | Technobliterator | age gap is a bit weird |
20:04.50 | Hachiman | Age gap? |
20:05.04 | Technobliterator | I have no idea how much younger Iris is than Noctis |
20:05.07 | Technobliterator | but I imagine quite a bit |
20:05.26 | Hachiman | Huh, I thought they were the same age based on height |
20:05.45 | Hachiman | Then again she is Gladiolus' younger sister and I'm uncertain how old he actually is compared to Noct |
20:07.38 | Technobliterator | Noctis is 20, Gladio is 23 |
20:08.36 | Hachiman | I was gonna say that Noct appears, to me, to be between 18 and 20 |
20:08.49 | Hachiman | And that Gladiolus and Ignis both seem to be early 20s |
20:09.05 | Hachiman | While Prompto still looks like a 15 - 16 year old hur |
20:12.45 | Technobliterator | nah, Prompto and Noct are the same age |
20:12.54 | Technobliterator | Gladio and Ignis are early 20s |
20:24.10 | Hachiman | How am I supposed to get to the dungeon behind the waterfall after being informed of it at Lestallum? |
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20:25.25 | The_Randomness | Hello |
20:25.58 | Ghelae | Hello. |
20:30.23 | drom | Imperios: Look, it is another pic from that fan-service anime. http://i.imgur.com/FAeGXZ1.jpg |
20:32.32 | Imperios | drom: snek |
20:32.42 | The_Randomness | ech |
20:40.42 | Charles_Murray | test |
20:50.58 | Imperios | Hm guys |
20:51.06 | Tek0516 | Hm? |
20:51.16 | Imperios | I feel I need to rename the original Radeon/Artharon conflict |
20:51.21 | Imperios | The War of Twilight sounds a bit weird |
20:54.06 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, have you had Ignis auto-drive the car to the nearest spot? |
20:54.28 | Technobliterator | There's some stairs leading down on the road nearby, you have to avoid the high leveled enemy, fight the others, then walk to the waterfall |
20:58.45 | Hachiman | Yeah I missed the stairs before |
21:55.41 | Xho | ded irc tho |
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22:03.41 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Is it bad that the only thing that has outright managed to kill me is a coeurl |
22:04.17 | Hachiman | I'm level 20 now and I've been doing hunts across the land; just recently got to the part where Ardyn wants me to see the Archaean |
22:05.04 | Xho | What game is this |
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22:05.19 | NeonPanda | hi all |
22:06.50 | Xho | Hi |
22:07.01 | Hachiman | FFXV |
22:09.06 | NeonPanda | heh |
22:10.45 | The_Randomness | Hello |
22:12.08 | Imperios | Monet: I just realised something |
22:12.38 | Imperios | Not counting the Shattering, the Divinarium's capital was invaded three times |
22:19.04 | drom | Oh hello Xho. |
22:19.28 | Xho | ack |
22:19.31 | Monet | Remind me, once during the AW... |
22:19.39 | Xho | Drom: Do you remember which guitar it was I was talking about |
22:19.53 | drom | I believe it was one with some black wooden finish? |
22:20.27 | Xho | Huh well |
22:20.41 | Xho | I have one guitar with a black wooden finish |
22:20.50 | Xho | I've had it for about 2 years now though |
22:21.30 | drom | Ah. |
22:24.26 | Xho | http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/scottfrog/M80M/100_5288_zpsaec441ff.jpg Looks like this |
22:25.57 | Xho | http://www.musicnstuff.de/uploads/pics/Ibanez_M80M_Aufmacher.jpg Better picture actually |
22:31.02 | drom | Looks real neat actually |
22:31.44 | Xho | Aye |
22:31.56 | drom | I must go now. Laters! |
22:32.44 | Xho | Aw damn I was just about to post a pic of what my other guitars look like |
22:32.52 | Xho | http://www.6-string.com/media/catalog/product/i/b/ibanez_tam10_tosin_abasi_animals_as_leaders_electric_guitar_w_case_3_.jpg Ah screw it I'll do it anyway |
22:34.11 | Xho | http://i.imgur.com/WYnbmEL.jpg And the other one |
22:34.23 | Liquid_Ink | Nice |
22:34.33 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, that's pretty good, I'd say :o |
22:34.42 | Technobliterator | First time I died was when I got ganged up on by Imperials :| |
22:34.57 | Technobliterator | I would encourage you, again, to do as many Hunts and Sidequests as you can until you get bored of them |
22:35.04 | Technobliterator | before progressing with the main story |
22:35.21 | Hachiman | Aye, I'll be doing that before the Archaean stuff |
22:35.36 | Hachiman | I have a feeling that it's fairly significant |
22:36.20 | Hachiman | Also I like the fact I can get AP for car rides, which I already like taking because they give me some downtime to do other stuff for a minute |
22:36.39 | Technobliterator | mhm yeah |
22:37.08 | Technobliterator | the main thing you need to watch out for is the final mission, you need to be ~50 for that, and it's recommended you unlock the other Royal Arms |
22:38.11 | Hachiman | Not entirely sure what the Royal Arms do honestly |
22:38.18 | Hachiman | Other than give me that short super-DPS burst |
22:38.29 | Imperios | Hachiman Wormy__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWmbUMStlGI Fucking god what |
22:38.37 | Imperios | Monet: Twice during the AW and once before that |
22:39.01 | Hachiman | Imperios: Yeah, advertisements get weird and trippy sometimes |
22:39.55 | Monet | Sometimes yeah |
22:51.23 | Technobliterator | it's better when you have more arms |
22:51.37 | Technobliterator | hold down L1 + R1 and then they can destroy enemies way quickly |
23:22.27 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Is it also ever explained why only Noctis can use the Warp ability? |
23:25.09 | Imperios | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/69/Warchief_of_the_Coalition.png/revision/latest?cb=20161226232415 I haven't used these effects in ages |
23:28.48 | Hachiman | That's pretty awesome |
23:29.41 | Imperios | Hachiman: How do we call Iovera and Tyraz's wedding? Royal wedding? Imperial wedding? |
23:30.22 | Hachiman | Not sure |
23:31.27 | Xho | red wedding |
23:35.41 | Monet | Cept no one died |
23:36.37 | Monet | I named the event Royal Wedding because equally unsure |
23:36.38 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium#History Looks purtier now |
23:37.40 | Imperios | Monet: I mean if we put Iovera's prestige and compared it with other monarchs she'd probably count as an empress rather than a queen, and the Breeks WERE historically emperors |
23:37.56 | Imperios | If I am not mistaken |
23:38.02 | Imperios | And if I am it is cos Hachi is dum |
23:38.32 | Imperios | Iovera's comparable to the Pope, the Pope was in theory superior to medieval kings, and successor to the Roman Emperors, so his title was comparable to that of emperor |
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23:38.46 | Imperios | The Clericarchs at their peak were also in a sense emperors |
23:39.06 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: Hey should we call Iovera and Tyraz's wedding an "imperial" wedding or a "royal" wedding |
23:39.40 | Charles_Bot | Well, that depends |
23:39.49 | Imperios | Monet: Come to think about it it's a bit odd that the Draconis use the term "royal" for state institutions so often, if there are many "kings" in their Imperium |
23:40.45 | Charles_Bot | Irl, "Emperor" is a title which explicitly associated those who wore it with Rome, and placed it in direct lineage with Rome |
23:41.05 | Monet | Pareagavatus = master king remember |
23:42.07 | Charles_Bot | So Czar = Kaiser = Caesar |
23:43.09 | Xho | One thing people don't normally remember that Caesar is actually pronounced as 'kai-sar' |
23:43.27 | Xho | I ruined the days of many people pointing out that fact |
23:44.13 | Monet | Heh |
23:44.35 | Charles_Bot | Emperor of the French was a revolutionary bastardization, and Kaiser of Germany a nationalist one, but the reference is pretty clear. Napoleon II was referred to as "King of the Romans" when he was heir to Napoleon, and Napoleon himself used the symbolism of the Roman Emperors to legitimate his rule |
23:44.41 | Imperios | Xho: I remember |
23:44.52 | Xho | Well you would because you've studied Latin |
23:44.53 | Xho | doi |
23:44.59 | Imperios | One of my groupmates failed her exam because she failed to pronounce dat Roman "C" properly |
23:45.21 | Imperios | She pronounced "difficile" as "dee-fee-see-lee" |
23:45.51 | Imperios | Oddly enough I also pronounced "c" weirdly, but I just pronounced it like I heard in Catholic choirs |
23:46.01 | Imperios | And the professor didn't fucking care |
23:46.06 | Charles_Bot | Imperios : Basically what I'm saying is that the human title is baked into a fairly rigid European tradition. You could come up with a similar, but different tradition for the Massari |
23:46.09 | Imperios | I pronounced "feroces" as "fe-ro-ches" |
23:46.16 | Xho | ecclesiastical latin smite |
23:46.20 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: I already have for like years |
23:46.24 | Imperios | Lumivael, or Clericarch |
23:46.36 | Imperios | The thing is should I equate her title to that of Emperor or that of King |
23:46.38 | Imperios | Well empress/queen |
23:46.52 | Imperios | Where's she on the pecking order so to speak |
23:47.18 | Charles_Bot | Ahh, that makes sense |
23:47.27 | Imperios | In theory the Clericarchs of the Church of Spode exercised sovereignty over like tons of minor monarchs, which could in theory make the title imperial |
23:47.56 | Charles_Bot | Though "minor" kind of detracts from that |
23:48.27 | Charles_Bot | Well actuall |
23:48.30 | Charles_Bot | Actually |
23:48.50 | Monet | Lesser? More local? |
23:48.58 | Imperios | Well like |
23:49.11 | Charles_Bot | Kings / Emperors tend (generally) to wield secular power, while religious figure wield religious authority |
23:49.20 | Imperios | There were planets ruled by primitive species whom the Radeons uplifted |
23:49.31 | Imperios | And the rulers of these planets became vassals to the Clericarch on Vendespode |
23:49.45 | Imperios | Sometimes these worlds would turn into interstellar domains as they advanced |
23:50.03 | Charles_Bot | The head of the Church of Spode could be like the Pope, even above the position of Emperor? |
23:50.46 | Charles_Bot | The position could be even higher than any secular title due to its association with the divine? |
23:50.51 | Imperios | That's the idea yeah |
23:51.01 | Imperios | Considering at least one of their vassals was an empire, it works |
23:51.12 | Imperios | So I'll go with imperial wedding then |
23:51.32 | Imperios | As for Tyraz, gotta ask Hachi but even if his title amounts to royal I suppose it could still count as imperial |
23:51.44 | Imperios | Glorious empress marrying a puny tiny king |
23:51.45 | Monet | Wait, wouldn't that marriage make Iovera the strongest contender for master of the Zazane |
23:51.57 | Imperios | Iovera - I FUCKED YOUR KING BOW DOWN TO ME BITCHES |
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23:52.40 | Imperios | Hachiman I invoke thee by the power of salt |
23:52.47 | Monet | Since Kezoreg has mostly buggered off |
23:53.03 | Xho | https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/divide-and-conquer-updated-mix/s-bDxPn I think I'm getting there with the mix |
23:53.08 | Xho | Slowly |
23:53.21 | Charles_Bot | Divine Wedding? |
23:53.45 | Technobliterator | I don't recall the explanation, Hachiman |
23:53.50 | Technobliterator | but the Kingsglaive can use it in the film |
23:53.58 | ImpyDroid | Could be actually |
23:54.10 | ImpyDroid | "Divine" is used a lot in Radeon terms |
23:54.24 | ImpyDroid | Divine Throne, their saints are called Divines, etc |
23:54.39 | ImpyDroid | Also, DIVINarium |
23:54.48 | ImpyDroid | Though in-universe it is a coincidence |
23:58.12 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: I suppose there'd be Zazane who would support the view of Iovera as their new leader in Tyraz' place |