| 00:08.26 | The_Randomness | brb dinner |
| 00:19.56 | drom | For a starter, they are a species origins on a cold tundra planet with large areas of dusty plains. The terrain shaped in a way where windy conditions are frequent. At least twice a week. Worse conditions bring dust storms and snow storms. In the process of the Nomatari/Kurinnurii civilization, they grew a tendacy to stay groomed and neat. Dust becoming a problem, thus, despite possessing fur, developing the concept of clothing. Later stages of the |
| 00:19.56 | drom | civilization as new technology was developed, sealed suits became a popularity. Wearing excessive amount of clothing inside someone's house is considered as rude because it indicates the owner does not clean enough. |
| 00:21.29 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 00:24.18 | drom | The_Randomness. Here were some history of the fashion. Long robes, ponchos or other pieces of clothing covering large areas of the body being a big foundation to it. |
| 00:27.11 | drom | Other primary clothings include, cloths used as hoods, long skirts and trousers. |
| 00:27.43 | The_Randomness | back |
| 00:28.52 | drom | Modern times has however overtaken the old habits, full-body suits are now a common sight for this purpose. This didn't stop them to keep wearing the fashion from the old times. Preferably over the suit. |
| 00:30.14 | The_Randomness | alright |
| 00:32.20 | drom | Their fashion is also influenced by political standing, ethics, culture, personality and biography. Cue many patterns, colors, and combinations. |
| 00:32.39 | drom | I should use my Oxford commas better. |
| 00:36.48 | drom | TL;DR: Lots of long clothins as hoods, ponchos, dresses, and skirts - everything to keep their fur dust-free. |
| 00:37.15 | drom | And comes in a variety depending on the individual |
| 00:38.11 | drom | Now I must go to sleep.. |
| 00:38.12 | The_Randomness | sounds reasonable to me |
| 00:38.13 | The_Randomness | gn |
| 00:38.14 | drom | Merry christmas! |
| 00:38.28 | The_Randomness | Merry christmas to you too! |
| 01:33.25 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 01:48.08 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: hey |
| 01:48.36 | Charles_Murray | Hey |
| 02:03.10 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NZTO_Map.png |
| 02:03.13 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid2 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NZTO_Map.png |
| 02:08.03 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: I feel like the FQC should be at least partially fortified |
| 02:08.39 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 Alright, fortified around the perimeter or a single planetary fortress? |
| 02:13.09 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NZTO_Map.png |
| 02:13.12 | Tek0516 | I'm not sure what would fit best here, but with the Hutters and the Gorge its a huge vulnerability. |
| 02:14.22 | Charles_Murray | Right, France isn't too thrilled about having to defend it |
| 02:14.32 | Charles_Murray | But at the same time, it's a great naval base/aircraft carrier |
| 02:17.00 | Charles_Murray | Also, would Farengeto be paying for the fortifications? |
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| 02:35.03 | Wormy_ | I've had too many jaeger bombs and pints toniogh |
| 02:35.18 | Wormy_ | my insifes feel piuckled# |
| 02:40.13 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NZTO_Map.png |
| 02:40.57 | Wormy_ | Looks great |
| 02:55.23 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: I assume the FTC would pay for it, gotta pull its weight somewhere at least |
| 02:56.18 | Tek0516 | Also thinking of going back and buffing all my population numbers, maybe raise the growth rate too |
| 03:18.22 | Tek0516 | Yeah, probably going to go back and raise the population of basically everything except Farengeto itself. |
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| 03:58.08 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 04:03.21 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 04:04.02 | Liquid_Ink | Hellooo |
| 04:05.42 | The_Randomness | Just got back from seeing Rogue One |
| 04:06.31 | Liquid_Mistletoe | Nice |
| 04:06.37 | Liquid_Mistletoe | I haven't been able to see it yet |
| 04:07.23 | Tek0516 | It's got its flaws but I really enjoyed it |
| 04:07.32 | The_Randomness | I thought it was very good, although I can see why it may be polarizing |
| 04:07.44 | Tek0516 | Yeah |
| 04:09.48 | Tek0516 | I've had a few people tell me they found it slow but I didn't find that an issue. |
| 04:09.55 | The_Randomness | really? |
| 04:10.00 | Liquid_Mistletoe | Spoilerers will suffer the same fate as Alderaan |
| 04:10.18 | The_Randomness | If they want to see slow, they should watch Star Trek: The Motion Picture |
| 04:10.54 | Liquid_Mistletoe | Don't you mean "The Motionless Picture"? |
| 04:10.58 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 04:11.03 | Tek0516 | Maybe I just care for the more political elements while they consider action more by explosions per second. >.> |
| 04:11.38 | The_Randomness | heh |
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| 04:39.40 | Charles_Murray | Liquid_Mistletoe Tek0516 ImpyDroid2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sagg08DrO5U |
| 04:40.03 | Liquid_Mistletoe | Oh my |
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| 11:14.16 | WormyAntlers | My insides feel pickled. |
| 11:15.39 | JingleGhels | How come? |
| 11:16.51 | WormyAntlers | I lost track of how many pints and jaegerbombs I downed last night. |
| 11:19.25 | WormyAntlers | It makes the guts, liver etc. feel... tender |
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| 11:44.50 | WormyAntlers | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/15675783_1443736062312152_4693069942059793208_o.jpg?oh=aa01f2c6052ca41b3abc821d1c00d9ee&oe=5861D661 |
| 11:45.22 | WormyAntlers | rare pepe o not stel |
| 11:48.00 | Liquid_Mistletoe | Looks like a grimbolsauri |
| 11:48.03 | Liquid_Mistletoe | -an |
| 11:49.48 | WormyAntlers | hue it does |
| 11:49.59 | WormyAntlers | lacks beak |
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| 13:25.47 | dino82_ | hi |
| 13:25.51 | dino82_ | happy christmas everyone1 |
| 13:26.53 | WormyAntlers | Happy Christmas |
| 13:28.13 | dino82_ | Thanks! |
| 13:28.17 | dino82_ | Oh yeah how do you change you name!? |
| 13:28.28 | WormyAntlers | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:35.29 | Tek0516 | Merry Christmas |
| 13:36.49 | WormyAntlers | This gaming wifi mouse feels swish on the screen |
| 13:37.26 | WormyAntlers | Happy Christmas |
| 13:41.57 | dinobells | you too guys! |
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| 13:55.37 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 14:06.27 | dinobells | hi |
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| 14:30.44 | Mistlewiener | Bah humbug |
| 14:31.07 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 14:32.14 | dinobells | hi |
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| 14:36.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 14:37.37 | WormyAntlers | Mistlewiner: A rough morning? |
| 14:37.53 | WormyAntlers | Mistlewiener |
| 14:38.13 | Mistlewiener | Not really |
| 14:38.28 | Mistlewiener | I got rum and whiskey, a ton of chocolate, and a PS4 with a few games |
| 14:38.40 | Mistlewiener | And now I feel stuffed from Christmas dinner |
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| 14:47.32 | ImpyDroid | Watched Rogue One today |
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| 14:47.58 | WormyAntlers | test |
| 14:48.05 | Mistlewiener | ImpyDroid: Your thoughts? |
| 14:48.16 | Mistlewiener | Because I personally feel neutral to it |
| 14:48.26 | WormyAntlers | Sorry did you reply? I disconned |
| 14:48.37 | WormyAntlers | I've had a hang over hur |
| 14:48.41 | ImpyDroid | Mistlewiener: Very hard to judge because of all the fangirls I was sitting next to |
| 14:48.50 | Mistlewiener | WormyAntlers: Not really rough, I got rum and whiskey, a ton of chocolate, and a PS4 with a few games and now I feel stuffed from Christmas dinner |
| 14:49.05 | ImpyDroid | Their waves of baww kind of drown out any negative thoughts about the movie |
| 14:49.10 | WormyAntlers | Awesome |
| 14:49.30 | Mistlewiener | ImpyDroid: I felt like Rogue One got wrong what TFA got right while getting right what TFA got wrong |
| 14:49.38 | ImpyDroid | What I can say for sure is Rogue One > TFA |
| 14:49.59 | WormyAntlers | I got beers, chocolate, some books, a gaming wifi mouse and a film |
| 14:50.03 | Mistlewiener | Rogue One's story is far better than TFA but the characters are just so... eh |
| 14:50.06 | ImpyDroid | I did not like TFA at all while Rogue One's very much decent |
| 14:50.25 | ImpyDroid | Mistlewiener: I'd say there are too many of them but then again there is the Robot |
| 14:50.36 | ImpyDroid | I felt they did not interact as much as they should have |
| 14:50.44 | ImpyDroid | *the droid even |
| 14:50.47 | Mistlewiener | The droid is the only one I cared about honestly |
| 14:51.06 | WormyAntlers | Mistle: I got my mother drinking jaeger bombs and sambucas last night lol. And I had pints of this 9% beer. Pretty much lost count on what I drank |
| 14:51.07 | ImpyDroid | Droid and the Asian guy |
| 14:51.11 | ImpyDroid | The pilot too |
| 14:51.21 | ImpyDroid | The blind guy is fucking awesome |
| 14:51.33 | ImpyDroid | Also sorry to channel my inner SJW but |
| 14:51.43 | WormyAntlers | Donnie Yen plays the blind guy I think. I'm a big Donnie Yen fan |
| 14:51.48 | ImpyDroid | FUCKING FINALLY THERE ARE ASIAN PEOPLE IN THE GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY |
| 14:51.50 | Mistlewiener | The main girl was bland beyond her backstory and too much was said about her rather than shown; the rebel captain was bland; I felt the blind guy should have had more info revealed about him as the movie went on |
| 14:51.51 | OluapPlayer | oh boy here we go |
| 14:51.54 | WormyAntlers | But I've not seen Rogue One yet |
| 14:52.04 | ImpyDroid | Mistlewiener: Gotta agree with you |
| 14:52.27 | Mistlewiener | Also |
| 14:52.29 | WormyAntlers | They're creating a series aren't they? |
| 14:52.31 | ImpyDroid | They are very bland, and I found the main girl a bit too sweet and romantiv |
| 14:52.33 | ImpyDroid | *romantic |
| 14:52.40 | WormyAntlers | Maybe the characters will be built on |
| 14:52.51 | ImpyDroid | WormyAntlers: ...Let's just say it is unlikely |
| 14:52.52 | Mistlewiener | Is it just me or did the part where the extremists attack the Imperials on the vaguely Middle Eastern planet take you out of the movie too |
| 14:52.56 | ImpyDroid | The story has a strong closure |
| 14:52.58 | Tek0516 | We should probably leave it before we get spoilery |
| 14:53.10 | ImpyDroid | Mistlewiener: My God that was fucking awesome |
| 14:53.16 | ImpyDroid | Best battle scene |
| 14:53.54 | Mistlewiener | The fact that that set of rebels were referred to as 'extremists' and wore Middle Eastern headgear and garb and whatnot while yelling in indecipherable tongue was just... too jarring for me |
| 14:53.55 | Tek0516 | Mistlewiener: Yes, the radical Islam element of them was the first thing I noticed. |
| 14:54.02 | dinobells | @Whistleblower: oh you got rum! Naice! |
| 14:54.07 | ImpyDroid | Mistlewiener: Wait |
| 14:54.16 | ImpyDroid | Does that make Imperials kebab removers |
| 14:54.45 | ImpyDroid | Mistlewiener: I was screaming "FORCE AKBAR" internally at that battle |
| 14:54.59 | ImpyDroid | Also Dunecht pulled it off |
| 14:55.02 | ImpyDroid | *Dune |
| 14:55.28 | Mistlewiener | Yes but Dune was directed at a time where the circumstances were different |
| 14:55.32 | Tek0516 | Also one thing I found out last night, apparently Saw Gerrera (that black rebel extremist guy) isn't an original character, he originally was in one of the animated series. |
| 14:55.49 | ImpyDroid | Fair point actually |
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| 15:26.16 | Wormy_ | Happy Hanukkah http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/42f7168f-43ba-4925-8b57-5f515086b0e7/e4ecfd0f-a5e2-4fcc-9dae-1b07d1b4ff4a.jpg |
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| 15:32.53 | dinobells | For all of you guys: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:HappyChristmas20162017.png |
| 15:33.15 | OluapPlayer | That's nice of you |
| 15:35.11 | Mistlewiener | Aw nice |
| 15:42.50 | dinobells | Am in so a happy mood and you guys deserve it! I like spending my time on the wiki with fellow like minded individuals with a love of creating fictions stories, galaxies, places etc! |
| 15:47.01 | Wormy_ | Very pretty |
| 15:50.32 | Wormy_ | Its interesting one part of my family is interfaith and seem to be observing consumer Christmas |
| 15:52.21 | Mistlewiener | dinobells: Has anyone ever told you that you're one of this community's highlights |
| 15:52.23 | Mistlewiener | Because you are |
| 16:00.06 | dinobells | @Thanks :P |
| 16:08.59 | Wormy_ | A treasure, in fact |
| 16:09.27 | Wormy_ | And Mistleweiner, your humour lightens my day |
| 16:10.44 | Mistlewiener | <3 |
| 16:26.12 | dinobells | oh have christmas diner! |
| 16:26.17 | dinobells | See ya guys soon! |
| 16:26.25 | dinobells | Enjoy your evenings as well :p |
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| 16:57.20 | Mistlewiener | Merry Christmas Spu |
| 16:57.25 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://lurkmore.so/images/5/54/Memes_and_Countries.jpg |
| 16:57.56 | Xho | Mistleweiner: fuk offfffff |
| 16:58.01 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 16:58.06 | Xho | Mistlewiener even |
| 16:58.22 | Mistlewiener | What did you get for Hanukkah |
| 16:58.54 | Imperios | I'm the greedy fuck here not him |
| 16:58.59 | Imperios | thrifty even |
| 16:59.08 | Xho | Clothes, alcohol |
| 16:59.10 | Xho | All good |
| 16:59.20 | Xho | Oh and £400 |
| 16:59.26 | Mistlewiener | Nice |
| 16:59.39 | Mistlewiener | I got a few clothes, lots of chocolate, Morgan's and Fireball |
| 16:59.53 | Mistlewiener | And a PS4 with CoD: IW, FFXV, and Dishonored 2 |
| 17:00.14 | Xho | choice |
| 17:00.28 | Xho | I got a bottle of Sailor Jerry's |
| 17:00.36 | Xho | I also had this M&S ale set thing |
| 17:00.41 | Xho | Unfortunately none of them were nice |
| 17:01.40 | Mistlewiener | Ouch |
| 17:02.08 | Xho | I got a glass though so that was good |
| 17:02.20 | Imperios | Xho: http://lurkmore.to/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Zigmund_Glamur.jpg |
| 17:02.36 | Xho | oh dear |
| 17:03.04 | Mistlewiener | Heh, anal-yzed |
| 17:03.34 | Imperios | Mistlewiener Xho: http://lurkmore.so/images/7/76/Freud02.jpg |
| 17:15.15 | Mistlewiener | And now I realise |
| 17:15.24 | Mistlewiener | Half of the PS4 experience is waiting on download times |
| 17:17.26 | Xho | gg |
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| 17:38.09 | Tek0516 | http://i.imgur.com/D1l9PuT.jpg |
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| 17:40.16 | Imperios | Monet2: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9f/Black_Flag_of_the_Divinarium.png/revision/latest?cb=20161225174002 Tried another flag concept |
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| 17:42.15 | Imperios | Monet: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9f/Black_Flag_of_the_Divinarium.png/revision/latest?cb=20161225174002 |
| 17:42.22 | Imperios | Does this work better than the white flag? |
| 17:45.56 | Xho | The black flag is cool |
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| 17:52.53 | Luxsanta | Hello |
| 17:56.56 | ImpyDroid | So, the entire Red Army Choir died in a plane crash today |
| 17:57.55 | Luxsanta | I wonder why they even went to Syria |
| 17:58.16 | Luxsanta | Despite soldiers willing to listen to some 'red' music, why the hell would they even risk going there. |
| 17:58.40 | Luxsanta | Also they were to fly above Turkey, and so could be shoot down by filthy Kebabs. |
| 18:04.57 | Xho | So I'm looking at a funny band name generator |
| 18:05.03 | Xho | "Notoriety Of The Buttermilk" |
| 18:05.05 | Xho | jesus |
| 18:05.55 | Xho | "Republican Extremist" |
| 18:07.08 | Imperios | Trump will sue |
| 18:10.51 | Luxsanta | Cthulhu falling all around me |
| 18:10.57 | Luxsanta | Xhodocto playing having fun |
| 18:11.01 | Luxsanta | It's the season |
| 18:11.06 | Luxsanta | love and annhiliaaaatiiiing |
| 18:19.01 | Xho | "Cola Phatty And The Director" |
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| 18:24.28 | Xho | "Insane Broth Of The Bohemian Torture" |
| 18:25.48 | Tek0516 | Hey Charles |
| 18:31.37 | Xho | You know it's hard to come up with a project name that 1) Isn't already taken 2) Doesn't sound stupid |
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| 18:44.56 | Xho | "National Register of Historic Places listings in Polk County, Texas" |
| 18:44.57 | Xho | okay |
| 18:53.00 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/65/Divinarium_White_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20161224212134 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9f/Black_Flag_of_the_Divinarium.png/revision/latest?cb=20161225174002 Which flag would you say is better? |
| 18:53.32 | Charles_Murray | White flag |
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| 19:17.27 | The_Randomness | dunno why it does that |
| 19:17.39 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 19:35.45 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8f/Divinarium_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20161225193532 Holy shit I missed the easiest route out |
| 19:35.51 | Imperios | *the easiest route |
| 19:45.15 | Imperios | Wormy_: Okay it turns out I have like four unused Divinarium flag concepts left |
| 19:49.59 | Imperios | Can you rename them somehow? I still want to use them |
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| 20:02.26 | Imperios | Like Divinarium Flag Concept 1 or something |
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| 20:17.16 | Monet | Hi |
| 20:17.48 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 20:25.58 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: The food in FFXV actually looks so good |
| 20:32.39 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 20:32.43 | Technobliterator | the graphics are incredible |
| 20:32.49 | Monet | Square plz release a recipe book |
| 20:33.53 | Xho | Technobliterator Hachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/intro Once again Soundcloud is too loud |
| 20:34.10 | Hachiman | I'll take a look in a bit |
| 20:35.14 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: I think I like Noctis as the protagonist, he's far more likeable upon initial impression than Cloud was |
| 20:35.29 | Technobliterator | yeah, I mean |
| 20:35.32 | Technobliterator | it's not even a contest |
| 20:35.39 | Technobliterator | Noctis is one of the best protagonists we've had in a while |
| 20:35.47 | Technobliterator | the cast of FFXV is really spot on |
| 20:35.54 | Hachiman | And Ignis and Gladio are cool, not sure what to think of Prompto other than he's a little whingy |
| 20:35.54 | Technobliterator | I think you'll come to like the villain too |
| 20:36.10 | Technobliterator | I grew to like Prompto |
| 20:36.38 | Hachiman | The hunt missions are cool and the combat's pretty good - I mean I haven't died yet while on a hunt and I suck at games hur |
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| 20:36.50 | Technobliterator | Hunt missions are great |
| 20:37.07 | Technobliterator | I'd advise doing as many hunts as you can until you get bored and then progressing with the story |
| 20:37.13 | Technobliterator | and try to get all the Royal Arms from sidequests |
| 20:37.25 | Hachiman | My main issue right now is that I think the console thinks my TV screen is larger than it is |
| 20:37.26 | Monet | I've heard the food in XV was hugely inspired by Americana |
| 20:38.12 | Hachiman | Like, there are bits on the side of the HUD which are going off the screen and I'm unsure how to fix it |
| 20:40.19 | Technobliterator | I will say that the story itslef is great, but the storytelling itself at times is sloppy |
| 20:40.28 | Technobliterator | it rushes the exposition of a couple key plot points and can get confusing |
| 20:48.16 | Xho | Technobliterator Hachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/divideandconquer-wip/s-ixCIG The other one I did is closer to 5 minutes now |
| 20:56.23 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJTDpiDH7b4 |
| 21:00.28 | Imperios | Xho: https://youtu.be/QGFbBjhFDGc?t=190 |
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| 21:05.20 | drom | Hi hi hi |
| 21:11.34 | Xho | I dunno whether to keep Psychedelic Crab as the name |
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| 21:21.26 | Xho | Imperios: What am I hearing exactly |
| 21:49.07 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Royal arms |
| 21:49.17 | ImpyDroid | Waaaait so what is this exactly |
| 21:49.37 | Hachiman | Ancient weapons once wielded by kings in the FFXV setting |
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| 21:49.57 | Hachiman | I believe they range between broadswords, greatswords, polearms, guns |
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| 21:52.06 | drom | I've an urge to do drawing or play a game. But I am indecisive. |
| 21:53.45 | drom | I could do another, and hopefully cleaner, concept with less jagged outline. |
| 21:54.10 | Charles_PC | Monet Wormy_ Xho ImpyDroid Tek0516 drom : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:NZTO_Map.png updated map, fixed the mistake I made |
| 21:54.56 | drom | owo |
| 21:58.36 | Charles_PC | What do you guys think? |
| 22:00.57 | drom | Charles_PC: Besides me being out of loop, it looks good! |
| 22:02.48 | Monet | I like the data showing all the fortifications |
| 22:03.52 | Charles_PC | This is in the Quadrants, a collection of states under siege from Quadrantian forces and supported by the Gigaquadrant |
| 22:08.20 | drom | Ah, interesting. |
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| 22:17.39 | Liquid_Ink | Hello everybody |
| 22:19.30 | Charles_PC | Hey Liquid_Ink |
| 22:19.36 | Charles_PC | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f3/NZTO_Map.png/revision/latest?cb=20161225215829 |
| 22:24.19 | Liquid_Ink | sacré bleu |
| 22:24.49 | Charles_PC | Hm? |
| 22:25.56 | Liquid_Ink | I assume those guys are French |
| 22:28.47 | Charles_PC | Only the Republic of Galactica |
| 22:29.00 | Charles_PC | And they'd somewhat disagree with being called French |
| 22:29.49 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
| 22:29.55 | Liquid_Ink | SO who are all the rest? |
| 22:31.31 | Charles_PC | You have the Drodo colonial state (the Imperial Quadrant States), Grand Colombia (a Roreinian colonial state which defected to France during the GXS), the Farengeto colonies, and a collection of Heer Stekeveel states |
| 22:32.21 | Charles_PC | The Neutrality Zone Treaty Organization organizes the defense of the region |
| 22:34.19 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
| 22:34.28 | Liquid_Ink | Did anything good for CHristmas? |
| 22:43.23 | Tek0516 | Charles_PC: *Gran* Colombia. :P |
| 22:44.56 | Charles_PC | Spent it with my family, which was nice |
| 22:44.58 | Charles_PC | You? |
| 22:45.04 | Charles_PC | Tek0516 I got it right on the map, didn't I? |
| 22:45.40 | Tek0516 | Think so |
| 22:46.06 | Liquid_Ink | Nothing much, just got lots of books |
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| 23:02.34 | Monet | Ahh shit |
| 23:03.25 | Monet | 2016 claimed another |
| 23:03.33 | Xho | Hold on |
| 23:03.35 | Xho | Lemme find out |
| 23:04.14 | Xho | Wait what |
| 23:04.21 | Xho | You serious now |
| 23:04.28 | Hachiman | Who died? |
| 23:04.33 | Hachiman | Was it Carrie Fisher? |
| 23:04.44 | Monet | George Michael |
| 23:05.03 | Technobliterator | And it's not even over yet! |
| 23:05.55 | Monet | It was an unlucky year |
| 23:06.24 | Xho | Not sure if hoax or real |
| 23:07.06 | Monet | Well BBC are reporting Thames Valley Police attended his home |
| 23:08.15 | Monet | Or at least 'a property' |
| 23:09.10 | Xho | Looks to be legit |
| 23:10.46 | Xho | So that's Prince, David Bowie and George Michael in one year |
| 23:10.57 | Monet | Might be better to focus on how he died peacefully after such an amazing career than damning one unlucky cycle around the sun |
| 23:12.11 | Xho | 2016 has been an unlucky cycle however |
| 23:12.17 | The_Randomness | indeed |
| 23:13.19 | ImpyDroid | Monet: It is 2016's dying breaths but it is not going out without a fight |
| 23:13.35 | Monet | That and I've seen enough award ceremonies right through to understand that personalities dying by the dozen is not abnormal |
| 23:14.25 | Xho | My friend just wet "That really was his last Christmas" |
| 23:14.31 | Xho | Savagery from the outset |
| 23:14.46 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 23:15.01 | Monet | 2016 just happened to be a year when more performers died than normal, great ones at that |
| 23:17.33 | Xho | So who's next |
| 23:17.45 | Xho | My money is either on Pope Benedict, The Queen or Buzz Aldrin |
| 23:17.55 | Hachiman | I reckon Carrier Fisher |
| 23:18.00 | Hachiman | She was hospitalised very recently |
| 23:18.05 | Hachiman | Carrie even |
| 23:18.18 | Xho | Hachiman: Not as bad as my same friend's typo "Carrie Fister" |
| 23:18.27 | drom | Xho: Reminds me of a quote from a movie I watched yesterday. "If he keeps up like this, it is going to be his last Christmas" |
| 23:18.38 | Xho | aww shit |
| 23:19.19 | Monet | Fischer had a heart attack didn't she? |
| 23:19.41 | Monet | Someone remind me |
| 23:19.54 | Xho | She did |
| 23:20.37 | Hachiman | The day after I saw Rogue One as well |
| 23:20.51 | The_Randomness | I heard she's in stable condition though |
| 23:21.23 | Monet | She is, she'll recover I'm sure |
| 23:21.37 | Hachiman | She's already had one, so the likelihood that another will rear its head is definitely there |
| 23:21.59 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/qvm4dLX.jpg |
| 23:22.10 | Technobliterator | they will probably panic and write Leia's death into Episode VIII now |
| 23:22.13 | drom | Not mine, but I thought it'd amuse you |
| 23:22.27 | The_Randomness | Speaking of Rogue One, I saw it yesterday |
| 23:22.36 | Technobliterator | Rogue One is very good |
| 23:22.37 | drom | I've yet to see it |
| 23:22.40 | The_Randomness | I agree |
| 23:22.47 | Technobliterator | I thought it was an imperfect but really well done film |
| 23:22.52 | Hachiman | Eh |
| 23:22.56 | Monet | I doubt they'll write her out as dead |
| 23:22.59 | Hachiman | I'd disagree but that's just me |
| 23:23.23 | drom | Hachiman: I already know few who do. So you aren't alone |
| 23:23.24 | Xho | I'd give it a 5.9/10 at the most |
| 23:23.36 | Hachiman | I'd write it down as decent if anything - it gets right what TFA got wrong, but it also got wrong what TFA got right |
| 23:24.05 | Technobliterator | I do not believe every film has to be a 10/10 classic film |
| 23:24.18 | Technobliterator | Rogue One is a welcome addition to the franchise and a very enjoyable watch |
| 23:24.19 | ImpyDroid | Jared Leto is 45 |
| 23:24.26 | ImpyDroid | FUCKING 45 |
| 23:25.12 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Thing is, I think that TFA's problems are glaring and kind of make you cringe, even if the movie overall is good |
| 23:25.30 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: 7/10, too much water |
| 23:25.31 | The_Randomness | :^) |
| 23:25.32 | ImpyDroid | While Rogue One's problems are more of the "meh, okay variety" |
| 23:25.38 | Technobliterator | heh |
| 23:25.40 | ImpyDroid | I'd say 8/10 |
| 23:25.42 | Hachiman | I thought Rogue One's problems were kind of obvious |
| 23:25.45 | Monet | I think Carrie has enough influence in the production that they won't write her out without at least some discussion |
| 23:25.54 | Hachiman | The characters are uninteresting / not explained very well |
| 23:26.02 | Technobliterator | I mean, they could give her a Han Solo death |
| 23:26.11 | The_Randomness | rip |
| 23:26.15 | Technobliterator | if they panic and think she can't make episode IX |
| 23:26.33 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: And yes but thing is this does not outright interfere with your enjoyment of the movie, for me at least |
| 23:26.37 | Technobliterator | Also, I agree that Rogue One's cast is given little development |
| 23:26.47 | ImpyDroid | Boring characters you simply ignore |
| 23:27.04 | ImpyDroid | I ignored the captain and just focused on the droid and the monk for exame |
| 23:27.06 | ImpyDroid | *example |
| 23:27.10 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:27.18 | Monet | Normally characters are written out after they become unavailable |
| 23:27.22 | ImpyDroid | TFA has problems ingrained within its very IDEA |
| 23:27.37 | ImpyDroid | Which makes it harder for me to enjoy, as you cannot ignore them |
| 23:27.49 | Hachiman | The characters I did like were the droid, the monk, and the antagonist Imperial who used that girl's father to construct the Death Star plans |
| 23:28.01 | ImpyDroid | Actually same here |
| 23:28.15 | ImpyDroid | The black guy was fucking awesome but damn too little of him |
| 23:28.51 | ImpyDroid | As for TFA, you cannot ignore that it was basically just a remake, that maintains the status quo in spite of monumental improbability |
| 23:28.54 | Monet | If I could I'd give an award to any film that was made without a hitch or change |
| 23:29.01 | Technobliterator | I thought Jyn was alright, but monk and the droid were by far the best, yes |
| 23:29.09 | The_Randomness | I loved the droid |
| 23:29.16 | Technobliterator | Cassian...could've worked? But then his development was rusehd |
| 23:29.22 | ImpyDroid | Again, I invoke the power of Tumblr |
| 23:29.30 | Hachiman | Cassian is fucking dumb and I don't like his development |
| 23:29.40 | ImpyDroid | Fucking Finally Asian People In Star Wars |
| 23:29.44 | Hachiman | He killed people willy-nilly throughout and then decided "aw feelings" |
| 23:29.48 | ImpyDroid | *raughs in happiness* |
| 23:29.53 | drom | Xho: I am going to ask you a thing. Did you ever get that one guitar you once talked about? |
| 23:29.59 | Technobliterator | yup |
| 23:30.02 | Technobliterator | his development was rushed |
| 23:30.05 | Xho | There's many guitars I want |
| 23:30.08 | Technobliterator | Even though he really acted well |
| 23:30.13 | ImpyDroid | I just fucking ignored him |
| 23:30.13 | Xho | Depends which one you were on about |
| 23:30.35 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: I feel like there wasn't enough time in the movie to properly develop all of the characters |
| 23:30.40 | Technobliterator | This is very true |
| 23:30.58 | Technobliterator | I think if you look at the main cast, it's like, twice the size of a normal Star Wars cast |
| 23:31.05 | ImpyDroid | ^That |
| 23:31.10 | ImpyDroid | The Suicide Squad problem |
| 23:31.24 | Technobliterator | and they have to develop each over one film rather than a trilogy |
| 23:31.30 | Hachiman | >guy at the start of the film who just wanted to escape Imperial territory deserved to die >that one extremist rebel grenadier who fought the Imperials deserved to die >main Imperial antagonist who commissioned the construction of the Death Star and almost killed Jyn and him didn't deserve to die |
| 23:31.31 | Monet | Good actors bad script |
| 23:31.38 | ImpyDroid | Again, that |
| 23:31.43 | Technobliterator | Very good actors |
| 23:32.15 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: It is actually different when you kill someone in cold blood, rather than in a rush of battle |
| 23:32.20 | Technobliterator | I do love how they explained away the oldest Star Wars plot hole |
| 23:32.26 | ImpyDroid | Oh yes |
| 23:32.30 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: the plans? |
| 23:32.36 | Monet | Star Wars is no stranger to Good Actor Bad Script or GABS |
| 23:32.50 | Technobliterator | "why the hell would the Empire make a straight exhaust point leading directly to the main reactor that a torpedo can fire through" |
| 23:32.56 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Oh yes "I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED" |
| 23:32.59 | ImpyDroid | That was great |
| 23:33.05 | Hachiman | I did like that aspect actually |
| 23:33.10 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait |
| 23:33.18 | Hachiman | Mads Mikkelsen's character was also rather good |
| 23:33.21 | ImpyDroid | Does that mean that the destruction of the Death Star was |
| 23:33.23 | Hachiman | Far more interesting than Jyn |
| 23:33.27 | ImpyDroid | An inside job |
| 23:33.44 | Technobliterator | like, if they needed an exhaust point, and it has to be large enough that a torpedo can fit through, they could've just made it zig zag or whatever |
| 23:34.12 | Technobliterator | now, rather than a plot hole, it's an important plot device |
| 23:34.20 | Technobliterator | also, they didn't overuse Darth Vader, but the screentime they gave him was fantastic |
| 23:34.25 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Then again, as if Rey was that complex |
| 23:34.40 | Hachiman | I've said before I didn't like Rey hur |
| 23:34.42 | ImpyDroid | Like actually gimme any good main protagonist in Star Wars |
| 23:34.46 | ImpyDroid | A Mary Sue |
| 23:34.54 | ImpyDroid | A random farmer boy |
| 23:34.56 | drom | Han Solo? |
| 23:34.59 | Hachiman | A good main protagonist? Han Solo |
| 23:35.02 | ImpyDroid | As in main protagonist |
| 23:35.03 | Technobliterator | Han Solo is not a main protagonist |
| 23:35.04 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 23:35.07 | ImpyDroid | He is a deuteragonist |
| 23:35.15 | Technobliterator | He's a supporting character, or he's that |
| 23:35.18 | ImpyDroid | The three main protagonists we have so far are: |
| 23:35.21 | drom | How about I deuter-agonize your pain |
| 23:35.24 | Hachiman | Obi-Wan |
| 23:35.25 | Technobliterator | well, he's a main protagonist in the next Anthology film |
| 23:35.30 | Hachiman | In the prequels |
| 23:35.31 | Technobliterator | Obi-Wan is not a main protagonist either ._. |
| 23:35.42 | Hachiman | But he is tho |
| 23:35.43 | Monet | Well in the Death Star defense, a) tech in star wars is schizophrenic b) there are a number of real life weapons built with horrible design flaws |
| 23:35.44 | Technobliterator | oh wait |
| 23:35.46 | Technobliterator | Episode I |
| 23:35.47 | drom | Flitcher? |
| 23:35.48 | ImpyDroid | That, and he only really shines in A New Hope |
| 23:35.50 | Technobliterator | I don't count that as a film |
| 23:35.52 | drom | I forgot his name |
| 23:35.57 | Technobliterator | but I suppose in that case |
| 23:36.01 | ImpyDroid | I do not remember him being anything in episode I |
| 23:36.05 | ImpyDroid | Anyway so we have |
| 23:36.10 | Hachiman | Throughout Episodes II and III he's played as a main protagonist of equal importance to Anakin |
| 23:36.10 | Technobliterator | yeah, Obi-Wan is the best main protagonist by the slimmest ever margin |
| 23:36.20 | Technobliterator | No, he's definitely a support character in those films |
| 23:36.27 | Technobliterator | in the same way that Han Solo was a support character in the OT |
| 23:36.38 | Technobliterator | At least if we're going by Imp's definition |
| 23:37.03 | ImpyDroid | Yes and thing is that in a franchise where your best protagonist still has next to zero personality |
| 23:37.10 | Technobliterator | Personally, the more I think about Rey, the more I think I just liked her because her actor played that role so damn well, even if she has not been written well |
| 23:37.12 | ImpyDroid | Maybe you should lower your standards somewhat |
| 23:37.19 | ImpyDroid | I mean we have a useless farmer boy |
| 23:37.32 | ImpyDroid | Anakin "Sand" Fucking Skywalker |
| 23:37.38 | ImpyDroid | And a fucking Mary Sue |
| 23:37.39 | Technobliterator | To be fair, Imp, you cannot deny that useless farmer boy became really awesome Jedi in Episode VI |
| 23:37.54 | ImpyDroid | Yeah but like none of them were truly compelling characters |
| 23:38.08 | Technobliterator | Luke in VI was great, and even though he was bland and whiny in IV and V, he was still, I dunno, believable? |
| 23:38.11 | Hachiman | That's not -entirely- true |
| 23:38.17 | ImpyDroid | Hell at least Jun has a defined goal and a quest, and some meaningful character development |
| 23:38.19 | Technobliterator | I would say Rey is believable, if overpowered |
| 23:38.20 | Hachiman | I think Anakin kind of shined in Episode III |
| 23:38.30 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Yes but |
| 23:38.32 | Technobliterator | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:38.39 | ImpyDroid | Turning to the Dark Side in 5 seconds |
| 23:38.45 | Technobliterator | ^possibly the worst scene in the series |
| 23:38.54 | Technobliterator | yeah, I hated that |
| 23:38.58 | Hachiman | It's like you never watched Attack of the Clones |
| 23:38.59 | Technobliterator | it's literally 9 minutes |
| 23:39.04 | Monet | Wellllll |
| 23:39.10 | Technobliterator | from him saying "don't kill Palpatine! It's not the Jedi way!" |
| 23:39.15 | Technobliterator | to slaughtering children |
| 23:39.17 | Hachiman | Fucking nothing happens in Attack of the Clones |
| 23:39.29 | Monet | could there be he always had doubt? |
| 23:39.33 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: >kills a few of people and cries for thirty minutes about it |
| 23:39.36 | Technobliterator | hey, that's not fair, plenty happens in Attack of the Clones |
| 23:39.49 | Technobliterator | like Padme and Anakin have the most awkward and forced relationship ever |
| 23:39.55 | ImpyDroid | >Why do you kill him it is immoral |
| 23:39.57 | Hachiman | A big CGI coliseum fight is all I remember |
| 23:40.00 | Technobliterator | and then they just reuse scenes from the OT |
| 23:40.02 | ImpyDroid | >kills a lot of children, I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK |
| 23:40.15 | Technobliterator | Yes |
| 23:40.23 | Technobliterator | And it's in the time span of 9 minutes |
| 23:40.26 | Technobliterator | 9 minutes |
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| 23:40.40 | ImpyDroid | What we can deduce is, Jyn is actually a decent Star Wars protagonist BY COMPARISON |
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| 23:41.05 | ImpyDroid | The equivalent of winning in Paralympic Games granted |
| 23:41.17 | Hachiman | I never said Episode III was a good movie; but at least Anakin actually has a slither of some semblance of a personality as opposed to I and II |
| 23:41.21 | Monet | Has doubt for nine minutesw |
| 23:41.24 | Hachiman | And shit actually happens in it |
| 23:41.24 | Technobliterator | This is true |
| 23:41.33 | ImpyDroid | See all that only adds more ground to my argument |
| 23:41.34 | Technobliterator | Episode III looks like the good one |
| 23:41.36 | Technobliterator | because of the other films |
| 23:41.54 | Technobliterator | and you can't help but be so frustrated watching it |
| 23:41.58 | Technobliterator | "this could be so much better" |
| 23:42.01 | Technobliterator | "but Lucas" |
| 23:42.02 | ImpyDroid | The franchise's standards are so low that we take a whiny brat who changes sides in five minutes |
| 23:42.10 | ImpyDroid | As a GOOD protagonist |
| 23:42.26 | Monet | minutes but constantly breaks rules and thinks he has a better idea of what is going on than the council |
| 23:42.36 | ImpyDroid | So I say beggars can't be choosers, Jyn is hardly a disaster |
| 23:42.46 | Hachiman | Jyn is just... so boring though |
| 23:42.49 | ImpyDroid | That is why I like Rogue One, it has no disasters, merely problems |
| 23:42.53 | Technobliterator | I still think Rey is not nearly as bad as everyone says she is |
| 23:42.56 | Hachiman | And they expect us to feel for her when we really aren't given much reason to |
| 23:43.03 | Technobliterator | and most people say that because it's become edgy to hate on TFA now |
| 23:43.03 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 23:43.04 | ImpyDroid | >implying Luke wasn't boring |
| 23:43.12 | ImpyDroid | B-but TFA sucks |
| 23:43.14 | ImpyDroid | It is good |
| 23:43.17 | ImpyDroid | But it also sucks |
| 23:43.31 | Technobliterator | You could say that about every film |
| 23:43.33 | Technobliterator | except the Matrix |
| 23:43.36 | Technobliterator | nothing sucks in that film |
| 23:43.50 | ImpyDroid | Yeah but other movies are something new |
| 23:43.57 | ImpyDroid | That's a glorified remake |
| 23:44.15 | Technobliterator | the only Star Wars film with basically zero drawbacks is Empire |
| 23:44.24 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Just remembered one silly thing |
| 23:44.54 | ImpyDroid | My sister watched Force Awakens being a Star Wars fan but could not remember the main characters' names |
| 23:45.03 | Technobliterator | pffft |
| 23:45.05 | ImpyDroid | So she called Rey "girl" |
| 23:45.10 | ImpyDroid | Guess how she called Finn? |
| 23:45.22 | ImpyDroid | "Dark" |
| 23:45.55 | Technobliterator | ... |
| 23:45.55 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 23:46.10 | Monet | What about Luke finding and learning under Yoda in the same time it takes for the Falcon to fly through an asteroid field to reach Bespin? |
| 23:46.46 | Technobliterator | yeah that's just a silly writing error |
| 23:46.52 | Technobliterator | not a drawback that sticks for people |
| 23:47.19 | Monet | Or Leias sudden ability to be telepathic |
| 23:47.35 | Technobliterator | the Force |
| 23:48.54 | Monet | (Not arguing Empire is bad just disagree it's flawless) |
| 23:50.14 | Monet | The Empire arriving before the Falcon? |
| 23:50.34 | Monet | Arriving on Bespin sorry |
| 23:52.48 | Monet | I recall the team decided to go to Bespin after they ditched the fleet chasing them |
| 23:54.17 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Just curious |
| 23:54.35 | ImpyDroid | Rey x Finn or Rey x Kylo? |
| 23:54.50 | Technobliterator | oh, I don't think it's flawless, I just think its flaws stick much less than the others' do |
| 23:54.54 | Technobliterator | Uh |
| 23:54.56 | Technobliterator | the former |
| 23:55.34 | ImpyDroid | I am one of the few people I think who actually likes Kylo |
| 23:57.22 | Hachiman | No, I liked Kylo |
| 23:57.48 | Hachiman | I like how he doesn't fit the standard of your conventional Sith Lord and he's like Luke in that he's a whiny teen trying to find his place |
| 23:59.02 | Monet | As much as I've called him a wannabe, I like the exploration |
| 23:59.37 | Hachiman | On the contrary, I like wannabe villains |
| 23:59.54 | Monet | I like it too |
| 23:59.57 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I like that weird theory that Kylo was actually conceived from Luke rather than Han |
