00:01.11 | drom | Gotta run! |
00:01.18 | drom | Bye! |
00:06.54 | DanzaDelMondo | Hi Tybute |
00:07.18 | Tybusen | that's mr. tybute to you |
00:09.00 | Monet | Hi |
00:13.43 | Tybusen | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/59/Oceanic_Razoa.png/revision/latest?cb=20161218001311 New Razoa design |
00:14.57 | Monet | They look rather uptight |
00:15.42 | Monet | The lady looks particularly condescending. |
00:16.10 | Tybusen | Yeah, I was trying to get some good snooty/aloof poses for them |
00:16.26 | Tybusen | Since they're essentially snooty shark elf fish |
00:19.00 | Monet | Well they look it |
00:22.00 | Monet | They look like a culture that would be uncomfortable talking to "land dwellers" |
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00:25.31 | Wormy_ | hi |
00:25.51 | Tybusen | I mean when the "land dwellers" have destroyed themselves multiple times in war, while you've just been chillaxing in the shallows, you probably start thinking "man those surface dwellers are total dweebs" |
00:25.55 | Tybusen | Hi Wormy |
00:26.01 | Wormy_ | Just watched Hateful 8, a Tarantino film |
00:26.39 | Monet | Cool |
00:27.24 | Wormy_ | Probably his most violent hur |
00:28.18 | Monet | That's quite a claim |
00:28.54 | Wormy_ | I've seen a good few of his movies now |
00:29.12 | Wormy_ | Brilliant though, set in the American frontier with a lot of twist |
00:29.22 | Wormy_ | and about 3 hours |
00:37.11 | Xho | Hateful Eight is pretty gory |
00:37.40 | Xho | I'd say it's probably as gory as Kill Bill if not a little more |
00:38.05 | Wormy_ | Its slower, but when the blood comes, it bloody |
00:41.35 | Monet | Classic Tarantino. |
00:43.20 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_UI1GzaWv0 |
00:48.38 | DanzaDelMondo | Tybusen: They look tiny |
00:49.46 | Tybusen | They're supposed to be a little bulky |
00:50.03 | Tybusen | They're all have swimmer builds at the very least |
00:51.05 | Tybusen | Stronger than archetypical men and elves, not quite as strong as archetypical dwarves |
00:51.41 | Monet | How tall though |
00:52.27 | Tybusen | According to their page they average 1.7 m |
00:54.22 | Monet | ight |
00:54.28 | Monet | RIGHT |
00:54.44 | Monet | So about human-sized |
00:55.38 | Tybusen | I should probably bump them up a little bit, 1.7m is actually a little bit short now that I think about it |
00:55.58 | Tybusen | I'll say 1.9-2.0 m instead |
00:56.09 | Monet | I think it's about normal fantasyverse human height. |
00:56.15 | Monet | 1.7m |
00:56.54 | Tybusen | 1.7m is around 5' 6", I imagined the Razoa being more around the upper 5', lower 6' marks on average |
01:00.17 | Tybusen | Hachiman: did you look at new feesh model |
01:46.01 | DanzaDelMondo | Tybusen Monet Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_1#To_Find_the_Borealis_Radeons THere we fucking go |
01:46.12 | OluapPlayer | fuken finally |
01:46.44 | DanzaDelMondo | It's 5 AM here |
01:48.09 | OluapPlayer | I did say it was late |
01:48.53 | DanzaDelMondo | reeeeeed |
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01:51.49 | ImpyDroid | Blarg |
01:51.55 | ImpyDroid | Any feedback? |
01:52.43 | OluapPlayer | is good but took 10 years pls dont do dat |
02:05.35 | Monet | I can offer full feedback tomorrow but I like how the teleportation isn't smooth and effortless |
02:21.42 | Monet | The story of the Radeon sisters and the explosive bra was hilarious. |
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03:56.34 | Hachiman | Tybusen: By the way, the new Razoa look great |
03:56.45 | Tybusen | danke |
03:57.41 | Tybusen | I had new models for the two Razoa characters that I was gonna upload too |
03:58.58 | Tybusen | I'm wondering what I'll end up doing with the characters since I'm not sure what stories I can write about them right now |
03:59.15 | Monet | goodnight |
03:59.41 | Tybusen | gnight Monet |
04:09.21 | Tybusen | I don't know if this is a problem or not but I realized that I never gave the TIAF civilian control of its military |
04:13.48 | Hachiman | Eh? |
04:15.02 | Tybusen | As in, I didn't explicitly write anywhere that the TIAF government actually has explicit control over the military |
04:15.25 | Tybusen | And that pretty much means that the military doesn't just take over because they don't really feel like it |
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06:12.21 | Charles_Bot | Fucking fuck fuck |
06:12.28 | Charles_Bot | I'm back in California |
06:12.35 | Charles_Bot | And the first thing my sister texts me |
06:12.55 | Charles_Bot | "WOULD U BE MAD IF I THROUGH A PARTY" |
06:13.07 | The_Randomness | lovely |
06:13.17 | Charles_Bot | Great |
06:13.36 | Charles_Bot | And here I thought I was going to get to relax and recharge |
06:15.20 | The_Randomness | rip |
06:19.49 | Liquid_Ink | Fun fun fun |
07:08.53 | Tybusen | Charles_Bot: spike the punch bowl for hilarity |
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09:44.50 | Hachiman | Hello |
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10:46.37 | dino82_ | hi |
10:46.45 | Tybusen | Hello |
10:54.49 | dino82_ | Howz all doing |
10:57.35 | Liquid_Ink | Pretty good |
11:19.24 | dino82_ | great to hear :D |
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11:43.55 | Jepardi | Hi |
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12:21.48 | Ghelae | The captchas are now almost capable of beating me. "Select all images that feel romantic" was today's. |
12:22.37 | OluapPlayer | Poor Ghelae can't feel love |
12:22.52 | dino82_ | hi |
12:22.55 | Ghelae | Hi |
12:22.58 | Liquid_Ink | You should have picked the exact opposite |
12:24.08 | Ghelae | Fortunately, my database of human culture was sufficient to get me through by picking candles and seafront views. |
12:25.09 | Liquid_Ink | What were the alternatives? |
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12:28.10 | Ghelae | There was a plate of food. That one was close. A table and seats in a non-seafront area. |
12:31.36 | OluapPlayer | But yeah Captcha is becoming increasingly ridiculous. This week I had one where I had to "draw lines around the road signs" |
12:31.41 | OluapPlayer | Needless to say I skipped that one |
12:32.39 | Liquid_Ink | Can't we just read the fuzzy words again? |
12:36.06 | Tek0516 | What if captchas are just an AI plot to improves AIs until only they can solve them? |
12:40.32 | Wormy_ | I don't understand why we are training AI when that would defeat the purpose of captcha |
12:41.51 | Wormy_ | Oluap: I was once annoyed when captcha got its facts wrong, broccoli is a flower |
12:42.14 | Liquid_Ink | That would piss me off |
12:45.42 | Tek0516 | Ugh. 9am exam on a Sunday. I'm up so early I caught literally the first train of the day, and the main Tim's doesn't open for breakfast fir two hours |
12:46.04 | Tek0516 | Also it's dark and cold |
12:49.30 | Wormy_ | Tim Horton'? |
12:50.03 | Wormy_ | I have heard of this great Canadian corportation |
12:50.12 | Tek0516 | Tim Hortons, yes. |
12:51.29 | Tek0516 | It's also the only real breakfast option on campus for students not in residencd |
12:52.18 | Wormy_ | Oh dear. I'm not even on the main campus and I get several resturant and cafe facilities |
12:53.48 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Mostly it's just that it's before 8am on a Sunday. |
12:54.51 | Tek0516 | And there's four different Tims on Campus so they're the easiest to get to most days. |
12:56.04 | Wormy_ | Wow, they must be poipular |
12:56.28 | Wormy_ | Like how Greggs in popular in Middle England |
13:00.24 | Tek0516 | We have a lot of coffee places. 4 Tims, 2 Starbucks, a Second Cup, various campus locations which also have it... |
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13:16.53 | Imperios | Hi |
13:20.29 | Ghelae | Hi |
13:22.24 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
13:26.10 | Hachiman | Hi |
13:32.31 | dino82_ | hi |
13:42.42 | Tek0516 | Well, almost time for my morning exam. |
13:42.49 | dino82_ | good luck! |
13:46.21 | Imperios | Hi |
13:46.55 | Imperios | Wormy_: I have been thinking. What happened to the old Scandinavian monarchies in the Fjord League? |
13:47.19 | Imperios | Are they now defunct or still exist under the Fjord's republican government? |
13:47.41 | Imperios | Same thing with all modern Earth royal families actually actually |
13:47.55 | Imperios | The Japanese royalty still exists, but what about Europe? |
14:26.33 | Wormy_ | Imperios: You'll have to ask Monet about whether the New Britannic Commonwealth has royalty. As for the Fjord League, I don't see why not. However, since royal familities have become symbolic, and expensive, maybe events like the third world war, environmental collapse and inter-colonial conflicts saw the ultimate decline |
14:27.06 | Wormy_ | People might no longer care at all for such symbols |
14:30.37 | Wormy_ | Then again, the Fjord League did quite well during the troubles on Earth |
14:33.04 | Wormy_ | As the ice of Greenland retreated, they exploited the new mineral reserves and agriculture boomed from its fertile riverbeds. They were the first to build cities on Antarctica, as well, and use geoengineering technologies to ultimately save the planet and feed the population |
14:36.05 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I just realized Geltastra's current model looks a lot like Blood-Queen Lana'thel |
14:36.12 | OluapPlayer | Is that intentional? |
14:40.28 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I don't think so |
14:40.43 | OluapPlayer | Funny coincidence then |
14:40.43 | Imperios | I did not have Lana'thel specifically in mind when I made her |
14:52.37 | Wormy_ | For some reason I read "urology" as "ufology" on the Nature journal's headings |
14:59.47 | OluapPlayer | literally alien probes |
15:26.20 | Wormy_ | lol |
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15:35.25 | Monet | Hi |
15:38.01 | Tek0516 | Hello |
15:39.34 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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15:45.37 | NeonPanda | hi all |
15:46.04 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
15:46.04 | Tek0516 | ...I already have Rogue One clips in my YouTube feed. >.> |
15:46.14 | Tek0516 | Hello |
15:48.06 | NeonPanda | I'm going to see that tomorrow night |
15:49.15 | Tek0516 | I'm not seeing it until Thursday, after exams. |
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16:00.33 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: I have been thinking |
16:00.44 | Monet | Shoot. |
16:00.46 | DanzaDelMondo | What happened to the House of Windsor in the SporeWikiverse? |
16:03.34 | dino82_ | hi |
16:04.29 | Monet | After William V, a descendent of William IV (as in Will and Kate William)...I haven't thought. |
16:05.35 | Monet | There could have been enough of a peerage on the Runnymede to continue the British aristocracy. |
16:10.34 | Hachiman | They were exposed for the faction of reptilians they were and overthrown |
16:12.13 | Monet | Except the New Britannic Commonwealth still has a monarchy |
16:12.53 | Hachiman | Fuck |
16:13.01 | Hachiman | Humans are still reptilian puppets I see |
16:14.31 | Monet | Isn't the modern day a bit of a sucky time for a reptillian puppeteer to be head of the british monarchy? |
16:14.56 | Hachiman | Hm, maybe |
16:17.14 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman: So the reptilians are not amused? |
16:17.54 | DanzaDelMondo | I was talking more about the British royals in general, so they're still around |
16:18.33 | DrodoAway | Aristocratic families are pretty resilient in general, so I'd figure yeah |
16:19.22 | DrodoEmpire | The Bonapartes are alive and kicking, for example |
16:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | (In the 21st century that is) |
16:20.31 | Monet | Resilient in heritage, but I'm guessing they lack the influence they once had |
16:20.37 | DrodoEmpire | So is the Qing royal family |
16:21.21 | DrodoEmpire | Oh yeah they'd lack the political influence they had, but most of these families are still very rich and influential regardless |
16:22.16 | Tek0516 | Actually destroying the families pretty much requires massacring them and/or confiscating everything. |
16:22.38 | Hachiman | Like with the Romanovs? |
16:22.45 | DanzaDelMondo | DrodoEmpire: In Sweden |
16:22.47 | DanzaDelMondo | Right? |
16:23.09 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman: There are a few Romanov claimants |
16:23.18 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean? |
16:23.27 | DanzaDelMondo | As in, where are the Bonapartes now> |
16:23.28 | DanzaDelMondo | ? |
16:23.34 | Monet | A number of royalist families were basically taxed and fined into insignificance after the English Civil War. |
16:23.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
16:23.39 | DanzaDelMondo | I could swear the current House of Vasa is directly related to the Bonapartes |
16:23.42 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure |
16:24.12 | Monet | But in Sporewiki it wasn't the British people who kicked out the royals - it was the Europeans. |
16:25.10 | Tek0516 | I know besides the obvious political power the royal family does make money off the land it owns. |
16:25.20 | Monet | They couldn't call themselves a republic while one of their member states were a constitutional monarchy. |
16:25.59 | Tek0516 | Quite a few European states still have monarchs though. |
16:27.29 | Monet | Norway, Sweden and Denmark joined the Fjord League while the Netherlands became independant. |
16:27.42 | Tek0516 | Belgium, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Luxembourg, Norway, Denmark... |
16:27.48 | Tek0516 | Oh right |
16:28.23 | Tek0516 | I guess that leaves the Spain, the rest of Benelux and the microstates. |
16:28.23 | Monet | I did not realise the Spanish crown was still around. |
16:29.00 | Tek0516 | Restored in 1978 according to Wikipedia. |
16:29.32 | Tek0516 | After the dissolution of Francoist Spain it seems they readded it. |
16:29.42 | Monet | Francisco Franco - Ahh fuk |
16:30.30 | Tek0516 | Well more searching says this was after he died and was part of the democratic transitiob. :P |
16:32.14 | Monet | The microstates could have been small enough that the founding politicians of the European Republic went "eh details, details" |
16:34.35 | Monet | What happened to the rest of the European monarchies sounds up in the air. |
16:34.37 | Tek0516 | I'm actually curious about Andorra now, since that's jointly ruled by the President of France and a catholic bishop as co-monarchs |
16:36.05 | DrodoEmpire | Tek0516: So... Uh |
16:36.24 | Tek0516 | Hm? |
16:36.36 | DrodoEmpire | I was playing Stellaris last night, and I cam across another empire that had the same name, same portrait, and same government type as mine o.O |
16:36.46 | Tek0516 | O.o |
16:36.59 | DrodoEmpire | But was still a different species, just barely |
16:37.04 | DrodoEmpire | (had similar ethics) |
16:37.24 | Monet | Maybe, as Manuel II did after the October 1910 revolution of Portugal, these monarchs fled to England or the Fjord League? |
16:39.19 | Monet | Wormy_: Do the Scandinavian monarchies still exist in the Fjord League? |
16:40.44 | NeonPanda | DrodoEmpire: When I was playing my updated multiplayer empire in a singleplayer game, I came across the previous version of that empire. Needless to say, murder happened. |
16:40.53 | Monet | This seems to be one big thing the ESR's history never really touches on: What happened to the monarchies |
16:40.56 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
16:43.22 | Tek0516 | My latest Stellaris game had my first game's empire in it as an advanced start. |
16:44.11 | NeonPanda | I haven't used advanced starts in ages, though the ability to push a button and make them not spawn near you was nice |
16:44.49 | NeonPanda | got tired of expansionist playthroughs getting completely neutered by an advanced AI popping up right next to me and immediately vassalising me |
16:46.10 | Tek0516 | I've never actually formed a federation in Stellaris, now that I think about it. I should really do a game with one. |
16:46.50 | NeonPanda | it can be interesting, not really my cup of tea |
16:47.28 | Tek0516 | Me neither. It's the Federation President mechanic that dissuades me most. |
16:54.34 | Monet | Do we know if it's being changed at all? |
16:56.25 | NeonPanda | don't get me wrong, it's a good mechanic for people who are into that kind of thing, so I wouldn't necessarily say change it |
17:05.06 | Monet | Its mainly that turnoff where anyone but the president at the time can't do much. |
17:06.58 | Tek0516 | And anyone not the president has no say in what the president does. |
17:07.32 | Tek0516 | Plus no control over who the president even is |
17:07.32 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War I'm writing this at the moment. Does anyone want to give military support to the PCA? |
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17:08.32 | Quark8 | Hello. |
17:08.41 | Monet | Tek0516: Very undemocratic |
17:08.53 | Tek0516 | It could be a good system, but currently it's just surrending everything to an arbitraily selected dictator. |
17:10.02 | Tek0516 | If your federation was of dictatorial states maybe it makes some sense, but even then they'd want some say. |
17:10.13 | Monet | And yet it's meant to be the progressive alternative to simply conquering everyone. |
17:10.38 | Monet | OluapPlayer: The Imperium can lend support |
17:14.09 | Monet | Though looking at the dates there could be a lull in their support between 2800 and 2805/6 |
17:14.43 | OluapPlayer | The main conflict happens in 2811 forward |
17:15.08 | Monet | Then that's perfectly fine. |
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17:17.57 | Monet | Just speculation on my part but If there was no sign of them between 2799 and 2811, the Zarkhator War could technically be two wars. But its no trouble if the PCA consider it just oen war |
17:19.01 | OluapPlayer | Eh I don't see the need to split it in two since I imagine the PCA never declared the Zarkhator threat over during their period of hiding |
17:19.10 | OluapPlayer | They expected them to show up again |
17:20.35 | Tek0516 | Hey Charles_Bot |
17:20.38 | Monet | Hence why whether or not they could be one or two wars could depend on perspective |
17:21.39 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet Wormy_: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--vD6TEyDy--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/lsh7tn5lddq2vyrnnbdi.png |
17:21.39 | OluapPlayer | Their focus at the time definitely turned entirely to the Loron, but they never declared Zarkhator dealt it |
17:21.53 | OluapPlayer | thinking about it, the rise of the Loron is probably one factor of Zarkhator's retreat |
17:22.14 | Monet | The Imperium definitely might consider it two wars as after 2799 their attention turns to the DCP and the CyraEmp. |
17:22.41 | OluapPlayer | Fair enough |
17:22.41 | DanzaDelMondo | I am not surprised |
17:23.23 | OluapPlayer | DanzaDelMondo: Do you want the Divinarium to lend any support to the PCA during this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War |
17:23.33 | DanzaDelMondo | Would make sense |
17:23.34 | NeonPanda | I'm not surprised Australia is almost even, slightly surprised it hung on the side of Empire but still checks out |
17:24.30 | Monet | Due to the resources the DCP have and the general size of the CyraEmp, the Grand Senate likely thought "eh, te Zarks are gone for now but we have bigger sharks to worry about" |
17:25.03 | OluapPlayer | Zark - im back and i brought big guns |
17:25.17 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: the Fordanta or Circle (or both) would be game |
17:25.41 | OluapPlayer | These don't know the PCA tho |
17:25.45 | OluapPlayer | Granted this could start relations |
17:26.09 | Monet | DanzaDelMondo: I see a general divide on this map, with a few exceptions. |
17:27.31 | Monet | Rich developed nations or nations with a proud imperial past are pro-Empire, developing nations or those with bad colonial memories are pro-Rebellion. |
17:29.38 | Charles_Bot | Hm? |
17:29.59 | Monet | Charles_Bot: Imperios linked this https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--vD6TEyDy--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/lsh7tn5lddq2vyrnnbdi.png |
17:30.43 | Monet | Although most of these nations average in the 40-60% range. |
17:33.39 | Monet | Wait this is for Battlefront III isn't it? |
17:35.09 | DanzaDelMondo | Some Star Wars game yes |
17:36.22 | Monet | I think it's III |
17:36.43 | dino82_ | :d |
17:36.49 | Charles_Bot | OluapPlayer: France could give some support to the PCA |
17:37.11 | Monet | TOR is Republic-Sith Empire, and the previous games were before 2006 |
17:39.32 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War#Escalation_of_Conflict kay then yall got mentions |
17:40.10 | Charles_Bot | Cool ^.^ |
17:44.53 | NeonPanda | the Fordanta and UNO at least have had contact in the past, I know the UNO has since been reformed but that's a thing |
17:45.29 | Monet | So theoretically the PCA would know of the Fordanta though UNO and the PAE. |
17:45.51 | OluapPlayer | If they did, it'd be only through mentions |
17:45.57 | OluapPlayer | But they know each other properly now |
17:48.33 | Monet | Actually could the PAE request access to battlefield wreckage and salvage for research? |
17:48.51 | OluapPlayer | Probably, the Indocs are doing more or less the same too |
17:49.07 | OluapPlayer | Except they're taking living Zarkhator for creepy scientist experiments |
17:50.13 | NeonPanda | the Circle would probably be doing it regardless of what others think |
17:50.22 | Monet | PAY - Yay precursor salvage. |
17:50.55 | OluapPlayer | They're technically bootleg precursors as the section explains |
17:50.59 | OluapPlayer | But they're old enough hur |
17:51.37 | NeonPanda | Circle: it's stuff we haven't had a chance to poke yet so we're poking it |
17:53.09 | OluapPlayer | What's the opposite word for "associated"? |
17:54.14 | DanzaDelMondo | Dissociated |
17:54.22 | OluapPlayer | rite |
17:54.26 | DanzaDelMondo | Disconnected from |
17:54.31 | DanzaDelMondo | Not connected to |
17:54.38 | DanzaDelMondo | Wait do you mean they are not associated and never have been |
17:54.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Or they were but no longer are |
17:55.03 | OluapPlayer | As in "Fordanta were not associated with the PCA but are now" |
17:55.53 | DanzaDelMondo | Fordanta aligned themselves with the PCA? |
17:56.11 | NeonPanda | unassociated would be a term you could use, although the longer form works fine |
17:56.28 | OluapPlayer | Right |
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18:22.31 | Luxor | e v e n i n g |
18:26.05 | DrodoEmpire | a f t e r n o o n] |
18:26.42 | DanzaDelMondo | n i g h t |
18:27.00 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War#The_Grey_Betrayal more |
18:28.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, so the invasion proper begins in 2811? |
18:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | And it also hits Ottzello? |
18:29.08 | OluapPlayer | Yes, URO is one of the main members of the PCA |
18:29.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
18:30.18 | DrodoEmpire | I ask as Drodo settlers show up in Ottzello as of 2812, and the Chalag Khanate (nation of Drodo nomads) is formed in 2813 there too |
18:30.23 | DrodoEmpire | *Imperial Drodo settlers |
18:31.25 | OluapPlayer | Unless they were in the way, Zarkhator wouldn't pay them mind |
18:31.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure if they'd be in any position to provide meaningful assistance, though they'd probably militarise a lot in anticipation |
18:31.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
18:31.52 | OluapPlayer | If they arrived that recently, Zarkhator wouldn't know they were there |
18:32.01 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
18:32.33 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe in the later phase when things settle down the Drodo could support the URO front but beyond that I'm not sure |
18:32.41 | OluapPlayer | That works |
18:32.57 | OluapPlayer | It's being an interesting experience, writing this all with descriptions. I think it's coming up nicely |
18:33.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I like it |
18:35.13 | DrodoEmpire | I can see Drodo support mostly coming in the form of whatever fleet was stationed there, a relative handful of professional soldiers, and a really big force of militia raised from the settlers in Ottzello |
18:35.59 | OluapPlayer | Drodo - we came here looking for good things and we found giant 4 armed demon lizards |
18:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
18:37.23 | Luxor | BTW, Is there any specific way to name residents of Universe? |
18:37.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm... I'd say the Drodo might join by... 2816, perhaps? That'd probably be enough time for the Ottzelloan colony to actually settle somewhat |
18:37.38 | DrodoEmpire | I'll think on it some more though |
18:37.54 | OluapPlayer | Right |
18:41.43 | NeonPanda | unrelated to the current conversation, "We were debating what you'd call a group of dragons. I wanted to say a storm of dragons, he wanted to say a 'holy shit there's more than one run the fuck away' of dragons." |
18:42.07 | Monet | That second one works |
18:50.23 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet OluapPlayer Hachiman: http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/735175/vladimir-putin-killer-octopus-organism-46-b-russian-army-secret-weapon-russia Turns out Putin IS in league with the Great Old Ones |
18:51.16 | Monet | I need to wash my hands and eyes. |
18:51.25 | Monet | You made me touch the Express. |
18:51.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Just saw that in OUR news |
18:51.57 | DanzaDelMondo | Checked if it was legit |
18:51.59 | DanzaDelMondo | And it was |
18:52.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Us'sr kgb'a Putin r'ush B blycy'ka fhtagn |
18:53.10 | Luxor | B o c t o k |
18:53.14 | Monet | Yeah but |
18:53.23 | Monet | It's the Express that's reporting it |
18:53.29 | DanzaDelMondo | Alright, I need some context |
18:53.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Not a specialist in British mass media |
18:54.40 | Monet | They're like the Daily Mail. |
18:55.32 | NeonPanda | tbh C'thulhu would almost be an improvement at this rate, at least you go immediately and irrevocably mad rather than having to deal with silly things like "reality" and "sanity" |
18:56.31 | OluapPlayer | comes with a free fish-frog waifu if you're into that |
18:57.02 | Monet | Take a recent news that paint thinner was found in a certain brand of gravy granules. |
18:57.17 | Luxor | hue |
18:57.32 | Monet | Other news sources reported the warning and that LIDL are pulling it off the shelves. |
18:57.39 | Luxor | if you want to see crap level mess in media check out newspapers in Poland |
18:57.47 | Monet | The Express went with "HEALTH ALERT: People urged not to eat supermarket gravy containing PAINT THINNER chemical" |
18:58.21 | Luxor | 50% backing we-are-totalitarists-deal-with-it government and other 50% saying ruling party is creation of Satan |
18:58.33 | Luxor | both are not really that far from the truth |
18:59.18 | Luxor | check for nonsence and pseudo-phisics gibe: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Havoc |
18:59.28 | Luxor | nonsense* |
18:59.32 | Luxor | physics* |
19:01.43 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:02.18 | Luxor | https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/5j0gge/next_month_mauritania_will_vote_on_this_proposed/ |
19:02.22 | Luxor | ^this is so exciting |
19:02.55 | DanzaDelMondo | So like a right-wing website? |
19:03.09 | Monet | Very |
19:03.31 | DanzaDelMondo | Wait |
19:03.41 | DanzaDelMondo | ARen't most Western nationalists Putin fanboys? |
19:03.51 | DanzaDelMondo | Save for our immediate neighbours of coruse |
19:04.30 | Luxor | DanzaDelMondo: https://i.redd.it/zk771rycoc4y.png |
19:04.36 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:09.11 | DanzaDelMondo | So Eurosceptic? |
19:09.33 | Monet | and Islamaphobic. |
19:09.37 | DanzaDelMondo | Luxor: Oil used as lubricant |
19:09.46 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: That's a given for most nationalists as I understand |
19:10.12 | Monet | I can't speak for Eastern or Southern Europe but the general consensus in the British Isles is Putin wants is a scary man who wants to resurrect the USSR |
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19:10.57 | DrodoEmpire | Back >., |
19:10.59 | DrodoEmpire | *>.< |
19:12.27 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: That explains Putin's weaponisation of the Great Old Ones |
19:12.59 | Monet | Had a brief look at Urban Dictionary and one entry sums up most of their headlines as involving either: Diana, kilelr food, kilelr weather, evil immigrants, cancer and Madeline McCann. |
19:14.31 | Monet | Another describes it as the Daily Mail for pensioners. |
19:15.44 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War#Fall_of_the_Sovereign the conclusion |
19:16.28 | OluapPlayer | F5 that |
19:17.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yep, taking a look |
19:20.42 | DanzaDelMondo | OluapPlayer: Goodnight, sweet prince |
19:31.07 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War#Aftermath and to wrap it up |
19:38.04 | dino82_ | oh nice war! |
19:50.06 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25wYPsJ7Kds WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH |
19:50.22 | OluapPlayer | oh BOY |
19:50.23 | DanzaDelMondo | Oh wait 3 days already? |
19:51.56 | DanzaDelMondo | SQUIGS |
19:52.02 | OluapPlayer | Oh god squigs |
19:53.21 | OluapPlayer | BIG ORK MECH SPOTTED |
19:54.15 | OluapPlayer | Oh god so many Orks |
19:54.16 | OluapPlayer | I love it |
19:54.44 | Monet | Not entirely sure about the music |
19:55.25 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: A tad too modern, yeah |
19:55.30 | DanzaDelMondo | Like modern movie soundtracks |
19:55.36 | DanzaDelMondo | But it works for Orks |
19:55.47 | OluapPlayer | I liked it |
19:56.10 | Monet | I get what they're trying to do. |
19:56.44 | Monet | But there was a strong Modern Warfare vibe all the same. |
19:57.05 | DanzaDelMondo | More like Junkie XL |
19:57.15 | DanzaDelMondo | It sounds like Fury Road |
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20:00.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
20:02.08 | Technobliterator | So, Rogue One is pretty good :o |
20:02.26 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
20:02.32 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War I finished this |
20:02.47 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
20:02.49 | Technobliterator | I will read now |
20:08.56 | Wormy_ | Damnit |
20:09.24 | Wormy_ | I posted a big message to the "I'm Tired" forum post and it didn't send and is now locked out. |
20:18.56 | Wormy_ | How the aliun invasion starts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMThv97LP9Q |
20:19.16 | NeonPanda | I do hope the Ork Stompa can carry a mega dakkakannon, seeing one of those things fire would be hilarious |
20:24.30 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, really good stuff :o |
20:24.59 | Technobliterator | I like especially how you made clear in the last section what the scale of the war was |
20:25.22 | Technobliterator | However, I find it funny how Arkarixus thus far has basically just been in wars to show up at the end and kill the big bad guy :P |
20:26.16 | OluapPlayer | Arkarixus - not my fault im gud at doin it |
20:27.53 | Monet | In modern warfare you ideally don't want to throw your generals into the thick of battle |
20:28.19 | Monet | So I imagine he did a lot of organisation and strategy that's not as easy to demonstrate. |
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20:28.55 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
20:29.23 | Technobliterator | hihi |
20:29.51 | Wormy_ | hey |
20:30.07 | NeonPanda | hi |
20:31.17 | OluapPlayer | ~crush Cyrannian |
20:31.17 | infobot | ACTION crushes Cyrannian with a full height scsi disk |
20:31.47 | Cyrannian | ~glomp OluapPlayer |
20:31.47 | infobot | ACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapPlayer |
20:32.23 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zarkhator_War I wrote a thing with Paladians mentioned |
20:33.04 | Cyrannian | Still reading it |
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20:37.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
20:37.56 | Spluff5 | Lots of people today! |
20:38.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yep |
20:39.45 | DanzaDelMondo | Cyrannian Wormy_: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7e/Fjord_League_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20161218203932 I did a thing |
20:40.50 | Spluff5 | I like |
20:40.55 | Spluff5 | What's it for? |
20:41.53 | DanzaDelMondo | Wormy's Scandinavian bros |
20:43.31 | Spluff5 | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1d/Sorghum_class_ship.png/revision/latest?cb=20161218204310 |
20:43.50 | Spluff5 | I may have gotten a bit silly with my Virloyd colonist ship. |
20:44.19 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: tis very impressive work, I didn't know you were working on it |
20:44.40 | OluapPlayer | No one did, I started it yesterday |
20:46.43 | NeonPanda | *james bond music plays* |
20:57.01 | DanzaDelMondo | Cyrannian: What do you think? |
20:58.12 | Cyrannian | Very nice work |
21:02.49 | Wormy_ | DanzaDelMondo: Love the Norse script |
21:05.08 | dino82_ | bye bye |
21:07.02 | DanzaDelMondo | Wormy_: It is a line from the Poetic Edda actually |
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21:15.57 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/699600/Vladimir-Putin-moves-to-outlaw-alien-values-and-laws Wow so they say we make monster octopi but they also like us |
21:15.59 | DanzaDelMondo | I am confused |
21:17.28 | Monet | Its sensationalism |
21:18.32 | Monet | Look at the comments section |
21:19.40 | Monet | As I said, it could be called the Daily Mail for pensioners. |
21:19.43 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman: https://pp.vk.me/c638920/v638920413/11407/ku3ipOzJJiw.jpg "Are you a real feminist?" |
21:21.04 | Monet | That article is supportive because "it's against all that wishy-washy leftist nonsense in Europe" |
21:28.38 | Wormy_ | https://www.newscientist.com/article/2114622-proxima-centauri-really-does-orbit-its-two-bright-neighbours/ |
21:28.51 | The_Randomness | :o |
21:29.35 | OluapPlayer | I didn't know that was contested |
21:29.52 | Wormy_ | Also, I was talking about this the other day and now this popped up https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23231014-700-deepest-water-found-1000km-down-a-third-of-way-to-earths-core/ |
21:30.12 | The_Randomness | I'm pretty sure they thought it was probably the case, but it wasn't absolutely certain |
21:30.16 | Wormy_ | I knew it was contested but it surprises me it took this long to solve |
21:31.02 | OluapPlayer | For a moment I thought you were posting the news about the oldest water, which I already posted |
21:31.06 | Wormy_ | well, contested might not be the right word |
21:31.24 | Monet | OluapPlayer: It's far enough away from Alpha Centauri A and B that some might consider it it's own star system. |
21:31.47 | Wormy_ | That water might still be younger, because subduction is an active process. |
21:35.33 | Wormy_ | But water will have always been in the mantle, since the Earth's formation |
21:36.17 | Wormy_ | probably plays a bigger role in the mantle today than anticipated |
21:53.16 | Wormy_ | weird story https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23231041-800-short-story-the-university-of-the-sun/ |
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21:57.16 | Wormy_ | hi |
21:57.43 | Monet | hi |
21:58.15 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
21:58.38 | Xho | Hi |
21:58.49 | Xho | So I saw Rogue One today |
21:58.58 | Xho | 5.5/10 would not watch again |
21:59.12 | Ghelae | Hi |
21:59.55 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15391040_10155568351622067_2577463624105028505_n.jpg?oh=7c1610860989b0e71ddb2481981ada15&oe=58B3A432 |
22:01.00 | Monet | What makes it mediocre for you. |
22:01.00 | Xho | I also ate too much and threw uo |
22:01.01 | Xho | up |
22:01.34 | Xho | Monet: None of the characters were interesting apart from Jet Li's character and there was no energy to the plot |
22:01.48 | Wormy_ | People I spoke to loved it |
22:02.00 | Xho | The only bits I enjoyed were the bits with |
22:02.03 | Xho | Wait hold on spoilers |
22:02.27 | The_Randomness | Haven't seen it yet |
22:02.28 | Wormy_ | plz no spoil |
22:03.01 | Xho | It's basically "Boring Plot With Fan Service: A Star Wars Story" to me |
22:03.18 | Monet | Star Wars' draw is more about pew-pew lazors and cool starships so fair enough. |
22:06.47 | Xho | The fan service parts were good |
22:07.41 | Monet | I got the hint when we had a rather random preview of Vader in their adverts. |
22:07.59 | Xho | And I could have potentially killed myself today a la nut allergy as well |
22:08.41 | Xho | The ice cream place I went to mixed up the order and I was served ice cream that had nuts in it |
22:09.01 | Xho | Unfortunately I can't sue because I staved off a reaction |
22:10.01 | Monet | You could file a complaint. |
22:10.29 | Xho | I got a refund |
22:10.34 | Xho | I asked for a glass of water |
22:10.37 | Xho | They gave me a hot glass of water |
22:10.40 | Xho | A HOT GLASS OF WATER |
22:10.49 | Xho | WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT |
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22:12.15 | Charles_Murray | Monet Xho Wormy_ DrodoEmpire symbol for the next French perk |
22:12.17 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Perfect_Storm.png |
22:12.22 | Monet | If you got a refund there's no real reason to sue. |
22:12.33 | Xho | Monet: I couldn't anyway because I wasn't hospitalised |
22:12.41 | Xho | Charles_Murray: a sterfect porm |
22:12.48 | DrodoEmpire | Charles: Huh |
22:12.51 | Monet | Win-win really |
22:13.05 | Xho | I guess |
22:13.10 | Xho | More money would have been nice |
22:13.21 | Xho | But hospitalisation, not really |
22:14.01 | Monet | Charles_Murray: I like |
22:14.56 | Monet | Listening to the lore behind the IoM Ecclesiachy. I like how after being forced off Terra they created a second capital - transferred buildings and all - on a planet called *Ophelia* |
22:17.19 | Monet | Also they built a giant fuck-ass cathedral that reached 4km into the sky. |
22:18.44 | Xho | not heresy |
22:20.14 | Monet | The base was also something like 50,000 square km. |
22:20.50 | The_Randomness | sounds appropriately over the top for WH40k |
22:21.50 | Xho | 40K: Where everything is over the top so nothing is over the top |
22:21.56 | Monet | Sorry |
22:22.02 | Monet | 90,000 sqmi |
22:22.20 | Xho | That's |
22:22.21 | Xho | big |
22:22.50 | Xho | That's the size of Laos apparently |
22:23.18 | Wormy_ | eh the IoM are nursery level compared to Exultant era humanity |
22:23.57 | Monet | Xho: Not heresy at all |
22:26.16 | Monet | Probably as ludicrous is how they moved every asset they had on Terra, including staff and buildings, to this new planet in a universe where teleportation and FTL travel use the same mechanism |
22:26.55 | Monet | So they shipped the equivalent of an entire city across interstellar distances. |
22:30.20 | Xho | hard science? nah m8 |
22:30.45 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/21/PCACruiser.png/revision/latest?cb=20161218223029 - c dis |
22:31.01 | OluapPlayer | 2 hours later |
22:31.03 | OluapPlayer | Looks good |
22:31.09 | Xho | wat is it |
22:31.13 | Cyrannian | ships take a while u dum |
22:31.13 | Xho | Oh wait a PCA Cruiser |
22:31.20 | The_Randomness | shiny |
22:31.31 | Xho | So what's that gonna befor |
22:31.32 | Xho | be for |
22:31.49 | DrodoEmpire | OluapPlayer: Do you plan on expanding on the Zarkhator war with other side stories and stuff or are you leaving it as is now? |
22:32.34 | OluapPlayer | I'm done with it |
22:32.58 | OluapPlayer | As for the ship, I suppose it'd be used by the Aegis Guard |
22:33.03 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
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22:41.25 | Xho | "Want to wonder why Xho said she hates me because I'm overrated, but come to think of it, I don't get hardly any comments on my discussion pages, maybe considering she likes me probably." |
22:41.29 | Xho | Newsflash: Xho is female |
22:41.41 | Xho | m'xho |
22:41.54 | OluapPlayer | no wonder u bitch so much |
22:41.55 | Charles_Murray | Where is this from? |
22:42.05 | Xho | OluapPlayer: eh can't deny that one |
22:42.22 | Xho | Some random wall post |
22:42.42 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:218259 |
22:47.17 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Perfect_Storm.png |
22:47.21 | Charles_Murray | Newest French perk |
22:48.31 | Xho | OluapPlayer: In a plan of bringing the Kicath into the fiction again how do you want to explain their leave from the PCA and Kilcharunya's departure |
22:48.38 | Xho | I can explain Kilcharunya easily enough |
22:49.00 | Xho | Which in turn could be the reason for the PCA expelling the Kicath actually |
22:50.20 | Xho | Kilcharunya hunted down and killed by Agents -> Kicath refuse to take responsibility -> political mess causes Kicath withdrawal from PCA |
22:53.49 | Xho | Or not |
22:53.59 | Xho | I just need to tie up loose ends so I can put them away without gaping holes |
22:55.57 | Xho | Okay so fiction is not up for discussion |
22:56.04 | Xho | Anyone else wanna bring up a topic |
22:56.17 | OluapPlayer | I was having dinner |
22:56.29 | OluapPlayer | And I'd prefer the Kicath be retconned to not have joined the PCA to begin with |
22:56.30 | Xho | y u |
22:56.43 | Xho | Fair enough |
22:57.17 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray: Wolves - "LES NORMIES SORTEZ REEEEE" |
22:58.12 | Xho | Not too sure what to do with fiction anymore |
22:58.31 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray Xho Monet: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2400317/russia-may-organise-migrant-sex-attacks-in-europe-to-make-angela-merkel-lose-german-elections-eu-experts-claim/ What the |
22:58.40 | ImpyDroid | Do people really believe that? |
22:58.46 | Xho | Yes |
22:58.49 | Xho | We're the west |
22:58.52 | Xho | We hate Rus |
22:58.55 | Xho | Russia even |
22:59.14 | ImpyDroid | No I mean we have similar scares about America |
22:59.30 | ImpyDroid | But nobody buys them anymore |
22:59.43 | Xho | We still buy it |
23:00.17 | Cyrannian | I wouldn't use The Sun as a reputable source doe |
23:00.25 | Monet | I hear stories that some still believe that Fox story about how Birmingham is a no-go zone for non-Muslims. |
23:00.47 | Monet | Cyrannian: Some people do, and that is Imperios' concern. |
23:01.37 | Cyrannian | Yup, I saw his comment |
23:01.44 | ImpyDroid | Right so |
23:01.49 | ImpyDroid | The Sun is bad |
23:01.59 | Xho | Yes |
23:02.17 | Monet | Sun is bad, Express is Bad and Daily Mail is super-bad. |
23:02.19 | Technobliterator | It's Murdoch, of course it's bad |
23:02.28 | ImpyDroid | So is Express |
23:02.30 | ImpyDroid | Right |
23:02.31 | Xho | British media is bad in general |
23:02.34 | Technobliterator | And yet, best selling paper! |
23:02.37 | Technobliterator | because logic |
23:02.44 | ImpyDroid | You got nothing on us m8s |
23:02.48 | DrodoEmpire | Multiple sources seem to have confirmed the idea of at least one think-tank conceiving of this orchestration idea |
23:02.53 | Xho | Going back to fiction I don't know what to do with it anymore |
23:02.58 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure which but I don't think its just the Sun |
23:02.59 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
23:03.05 | Xho | I was going to make that Dominion of the Second Eye thing and now I don't feel like doing it |
23:03.09 | ImpyDroid | "THE WORLD SHALL BE REDUCED TO RADIOACTIVE ASH" |
23:03.29 | Xho | I might just drop everything because it's getting too much to handle |
23:03.41 | The_Randomness | tfw your cold is gone but the congestion decides to stick around a bit longer |
23:04.15 | Monet | Xho: I've felt that. |
23:05.05 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya-7GNE4tQE |
23:05.08 | Monet | This is why the position of POTUS has a nasty habit of rapidly aging whoever holds the position. |
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23:05.38 | OluapPlayer | Doesn't even know what he's talking about |
23:05.40 | The_Randomness | Monet: yeah, it's pretty crazy how much they age over the course of four or eight years |
23:05.43 | OluapPlayer | cringe/10 |
23:05.44 | Monet | Being powerful is good, managing power is exhausting. |
23:06.11 | OluapPlayer | POTUS will always sound like some sort of name for soap to me |
23:06.16 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
23:06.17 | Xho | soapus |
23:06.33 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2400317/russia-may-organise-migrant-sex-attacks-in-europe-to-make-angela-merkel-lose-german-elections-eu-experts-claim |
23:06.41 | ImpyDroid | What the actual |
23:07.24 | The_Randomness | 10/10 journalism |
23:07.53 | Liquid_Ink | Fascinating. |
23:10.42 | Xho | Monet: Thing is though, if I drop fiction entirely I won't have anything to do any more |
23:11.58 | Monet | You don't need to go that far |
23:12.36 | Xho | Well thing is I want to do something as much as I want to not do anything |
23:13.02 | Xho | None of my ideas are collab friendly |
23:14.38 | Xho | The only thing I'm still interested in using is the Xhodocto |
23:14.40 | Xho | That's about it |
23:14.59 | Monet | And that's difficult because of how powerful they are. |
23:15.19 | Xho | Indeed |
23:15.41 | Xho | I think I'm just mentally inclined to not do fiction now |
23:15.55 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7e/Fjord_League_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20161218203932 |
23:16.39 | Liquid_Ink | Kinky |
23:17.16 | Monet | As I suggested on your forum post, what is your motivation. To explore ideas, envision scenarios or is it to get noticed. |
23:17.26 | Xho | Both really |
23:17.38 | Xho | I don't feel like doing either much now |
23:17.51 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy_ (5f97d5f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.151.213.245) |
23:18.22 | Xho | I think I've destroyed any chance of trying again so I might as well just leave it all |
23:18.29 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: The horns are kinked yes |
23:19.34 | Monet | I don't think you have apart from the enthusiasm to carry on. |
23:19.53 | Xho | Well I have no enthusiasm for the wiki now |
23:20.04 | Xho | It's all just writing for the sake of doing something |
23:20.36 | Monet | That random poster was an asshole. |
23:21.08 | Xho | I'm half inclined to believe it's one of the users long gone |
23:21.20 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_ Liquid_Ink: BTW the motto reads: "She sees arise |
23:21.23 | Xho | But no I don't have any desire to keep trying |
23:21.40 | Monet | Well from their language I doubt it's anyone who was respected. |
23:21.44 | Liquid_Ink | Cool |
23:22.14 | Wormy_ | Xho: I tried to write a message on that forum earlier but Wikia's reply thing stopped |
23:22.19 | Xho | The only thing I could do is give my fiction to other users but there's a good chance they'll never be used |
23:22.22 | Xho | heh |
23:23.08 | Liquid_Ink | ImpyDroid: Had Wormy seen? |
23:23.37 | ImpyDroid | Yeah he did |
23:24.11 | ImpyDroid | Maybe we all should do one final great epilogue at one point |
23:24.20 | Xho | I mean who really wants to have the Xhodocto |
23:24.27 | Wormy_ | Fukkit I'll post it here Xho http://pastie.org/private/efdcn5ssamtefbw4djqvww |
23:24.29 | Xho | It's a wiki tool more than a fiction |
23:24.36 | ImpyDroid | Finish up all the last storylines and be done with the verse |
23:24.48 | Liquid_Ink | I think they'd work best as a shared fiction |
23:25.46 | Xho | Well actually the truth is I don't want anyone to have the Xhodocto |
23:25.55 | Xho | Anyone else's interpretation of them just ruins them |
23:26.04 | Xho | No offence to anyone |
23:26.18 | Xho | But it's a meticulously crafted fiction |
23:26.32 | Monet | Understandable |
23:26.50 | Monet | What is it about the Xhodocto themselves that makes you want to continue them? |
23:26.57 | Xho | I dunno |
23:27.03 | Xho | They're the most interesting fiction I have |
23:27.19 | Xho | Probably because I've given them the most detail |
23:27.52 | Monet | I get you. |
23:28.14 | Monet | Enough to share the boat possibly. |
23:28.58 | Xho | I'm between a rock and a hard place |
23:29.07 | Xho | I gain nothing from using fiction and nothing from removing it |
23:30.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (4405aee9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.5.174.233) |
23:30.41 | Charles_Murray | Dere: Tybusen Tek0516 Xho Wormy_ DrodoEmpire ImpyDroid http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
23:30.49 | Tybusen | Hello |
23:31.02 | Xho | Hi |
23:31.20 | Xho | Charles_Murray: Which reminds me, you can use the Kicath until Marinus' Rebellion is completed |
23:31.59 | Charles_Murray | Xho: Cool, thanks! Do you have any directions as to how I should use them? |
23:32.10 | Xho | Everything I've mentioned should be enough |
23:32.31 | Wormy_ | reads it, but has nothing to say for now |
23:32.41 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, you've given me a lot to work with |
23:33.24 | Xho | Just think of France but angrier and without economic instability |
23:35.28 | Tybusen | Kitravasuron - hon hon hon murder |
23:35.40 | Charles_Murray | lol |
23:36.24 | Xho | I suppose my main thing is that the ideas I have aren't for SporeWiki's climate |
23:36.47 | Xho | So by definition I guess I have outgrown the wiki |
23:36.50 | Xho | Or it has outgrown me |
23:37.39 | Wormy_ | Have you read my post hur |
23:38.24 | Xho | I did |
23:38.29 | Xho | That's why I'm referencing it |
23:40.08 | Charles_Murray | Also Monet : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
23:40.19 | Monet | Charles: I saw |
23:40.22 | Charles_Murray | Basically a summary of the many bad situations France is in |
23:40.30 | Wormy_ | I'm trying to say that hmm, worry less about what it *could* be, and just do what you find most rewarding / least stressful |
23:40.47 | Wormy_ | But if you've lost all interest my suggestion is mute |
23:40.55 | Xho | I have very little interest |
23:41.21 | Monet | The beauty of web writing is that if something feels like it's decomposing, you can patch it up and make it shine. |
23:41.28 | Xho | I tried that personal universe thing but there was no fun in that because there was no collab |
23:41.42 | Xho | Then I do collab and that's not fun because I don't have full control |
23:41.55 | Xho | So web writing just sucks really |
23:42.37 | Wormy_ | What I do with Recent Works is that it lifts me from the old trap of waiting to write my fiction in a collab, or waiting for myself to have the time and motivation to write a whole story when I want to get to the good parts |
23:42.39 | Monet | Perhaps its worth learning to compromise. |
23:43.19 | Wormy_ | Recent Works allows me to go back at any time and add meat to the bones, or revisit old fiction and renew its context in the present |
23:43.44 | Xho | Maybe |
23:43.55 | Wormy_ | I nearly added a part featuring the Manrinus rebellion and Gorge Dispute today, but I got distracted |
23:44.04 | Xho | Often the compromise is that I get pushed aside entirely so I just don't bother |
23:44.16 | Monet | That's not fun at all. |
23:44.29 | Monet | Balance. |
23:45.28 | Tybusen | Long ago the four nations lived in peace and harmony |
23:45.35 | Tybusen | then everything changed when the fire nation attacked |
23:45.42 | Wormy_ | Tek0156, The_Randomness: https://github.com/fcampelo/EC-Bestiary |
23:45.43 | The_Randomness | I still need to watch that |
23:45.43 | Monet | Balance is really hard. And it can be extremely tempting to stick with the extremes. |
23:45.45 | The_Randomness | >_> |
23:46.27 | Xho | I also need to figure out what to do once I go to uni |
23:46.34 | Xho | Activity will be zero by then |
23:46.36 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: Looks amusing, will look through it a little bit more after I get something to eat |
23:46.50 | Monet | To engage in moderation is one of the most difficult things to do but it can also provide the greatest rewards. |
23:46.57 | Charles_Murray | Xho : I want to know, did I do something to discourage you? Is there something I could have done better? |
23:47.08 | Xho | No one discouraged me |
23:47.19 | Wormy_ | it is indeed amusing |
23:47.21 | Xho | I just don't get anywhere with anything in fiction |
23:47.28 | Xho | So I don't really want to do it now |
23:47.38 | Xho | The last time I actually got anywhere was War of Ages |
23:48.14 | Wormy_ | I think you are discouraging yourself, tbh |
23:48.27 | Wormy_ | Its an easy trap |
23:48.35 | Xho | Probably |
23:48.46 | Xho | I don't get anything out of this though |
23:49.03 | Xho | Everyone else here seems to get some satisfaction from doing fiction |
23:49.04 | Wormy_ | It might well mean that you aren't, and need a way out |
23:49.20 | Wormy_ | Well, I found *new* satisfaction from doing very little |
23:49.21 | Xho | Looking back at it I haven't really felt happy on the wiki for a number of years |
23:49.43 | Xho | I've just been plodding along hoping something might come out of it, which it hasn't |
23:49.50 | Wormy_ | I was very unsatisfied and willing to give it an ultimate suspension before |
23:50.28 | Monet | But yet you said you enjoy writing about the Xhodocto |
23:50.44 | Xho | The Xhodocto are the only thing that remains from when I joined the wiki |
23:50.52 | Xho | Mainly because they're my oldest fiction |
23:51.20 | Xho | And they're not really fiction at this point |
23:51.32 | Spluff5 | WHAAAAAT?!?! |
23:51.35 | Xho | Well they are but they're not an accessible fiction |
23:51.43 | Spluff5 | Oh |
23:51.46 | Xho | Like France or the Draconis or the PCA or anything |
23:51.56 | Monet | They're very very fleshed out background content. |
23:52.02 | Xho | Pretty much |
23:52.09 | Xho | I like worldbuilding in a way |
23:52.47 | Xho | But worldbuilding is about as detached from collab as it gets |
23:52.58 | Tybusen | I think the key would be to find what you like most about writing the Xhodocto and see if you can channel that into something that would also make you feel more connected to the fiction community |
23:53.05 | Monet | Not necessarily. |
23:53.18 | Monet | (to Xho) |
23:53.40 | Xho | With the Xhodocto it's because they're a very distorted version of God |
23:53.45 | Xho | I can't really channel that into fiction |
23:53.48 | Monet | Part of the DI's success is I mixed worldbuilding and collab. |
23:54.23 | Xho | Unless I suddenly go grimdark Daemons again |
23:54.25 | Monet | Almost everyone here has had some measure of influence on what the DI has become. |
23:55.01 | Xho | That being said the extradimensional mindfuckery is probably what I'm best at |
23:55.26 | Monet | Maybe we need to find a way to channel that, rather than a twisted impression of God, into fiction. |
23:55.37 | Spluff5 | Wait, DA is the Draconid Imperium right? |
23:55.49 | The_Randomness | DI, yes |
23:56.01 | Spluff5 | Oh yeah, duh |
23:56.08 | Xho | Having an entire fictional scope of abominations isn't exactly usable though |
23:56.32 | Xho | That would be like one user having fiction that's solely based on Chaos or the Tyranids |
23:56.43 | Xho | Or Lovecraft |
23:57.05 | Monet | We already have that but it's not major. |
23:57.35 | Monet | It's possible. |
23:57.53 | The_Randomness | It feels to me like you're grappling with issues of relatability |
23:58.51 | Xho | Pretty much |
23:58.57 | Xho | I'm years out of the loop |