| 00:10.52 | Monet | I sort of wonder |
| 00:11.15 | Monet | Stupid as it might be, I wonder if Angelos' agility is due to being mroe machine than man |
| 00:13.01 | Monet | Getting smashed by a daemon prince's tank-sized fists is going to do a serious number even in artificer power armour made out of adamantium. |
| 00:13.38 | Monet | It doesn't explain the leaping but he might be able to jog like he can because he's got metal legs or something. |
| 00:14.18 | Monet | So I'm entertaining the theory he straddles the line between life and being encased inside a dreadnought or something. |
| 01:22.43 | Tybusen | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Razoa New Razoa page, if anyone cares to read |
| 01:32.38 | DrodoEmpire | Oh I'll take a look |
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| 01:39.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:39.35 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 01:41.07 | DrodoEmpire | Tybusen: I do like the history |
| 01:43.22 | Tybusen | I was trying to figure out what would be a good analogue for conventional agriculture for an underwater species, and I went with coral reefs since they're stationary and attract a lot of permanent sources of food if you maintain them |
| 01:43.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, trye |
| 01:43.45 | DrodoEmpire | *true |
| 01:44.04 | The_Randomness | I'm suddenly reminded of what Wormy and I came up with for my collabverse world |
| 01:44.16 | DrodoEmpire | They could also probably expand them through artificial means, and cultivate specific species that're the most controllable and nutritious |
| 01:45.01 | Tybusen | I do mention in the paragraph about the Old Age innovations that they developed a method for seeding coral reefs, so they could use that to establish new reefs or expand existing ones |
| 01:45.30 | DrodoEmpire | Sure, but I believe its even simpler than that |
| 01:45.58 | DrodoEmpire | Won't coral reefs generally grow on most inert obstructions, like rock-piles or old shipwrecks? |
| 01:46.10 | DrodoEmpire | Well, expand into them |
| 01:46.16 | DrodoEmpire | Not emerge on their own |
| 01:46.42 | Tybusen | Yeah, coral just needs a place to latch on and not have competition from algae |
| 02:04.58 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:06/08/2814#Chapter_Three - First half of a new chapter |
| 02:06.50 | DrodoEmpire | Basically, he has a well-connected native merchant 'deputised' as an interpreter and advisor for the upcoming siege |
| 02:12.52 | DrodoEmpire | f5 |
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| 02:33.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 02:33.34 | tcm | hi |
| 02:34.48 | NeonPanda | really late to the party, but might I instead suggest kelp forests rather than coral reefs? |
| 02:34.59 | DrodoEmpire | Huh, good idea |
| 02:35.04 | DrodoEmpire | Or both, perhaps |
| 02:35.26 | DrodoEmpire | Coral reefs may be less productive, but perhaps its all a group has in one region or its the only thing that'll develop there\ |
| 02:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | Similar to why not all IRL peoples harvest wheat or rice- they didn't have it until recently and wheat doesn't grow everywhere |
| 02:36.34 | DrodoEmpire | So sometimes people're stuck with a less productive, or more time and energy consuming alternative |
| 02:36.57 | NeonPanda | the big issue with coral is that it grows really slowly, and most of its mass is the "skeleton" so to speak- I'll do some research into the practicality of it, but of course this is a fantasy setting |
| 02:37.08 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, go right ahead |
| 02:37.25 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps the actual food comes from the things *around* the reef? I dunno... |
| 02:38.26 | NeonPanda | well you could certainly tend a coral reef with the intent of fishing the variety of creatures that live around it- they're natural ecosystems |
| 02:38.47 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:40.19 | NeonPanda | I recall for example there's one pacific reef that's frequently (and regularly) visited by large schools of (I believe) rainbow trout that graze on the coral for its digestive benefits, so when the school comes around you have a chance to catch some of them |
| 02:41.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:41.27 | DrodoEmpire | And I can imagine you could carefully prune the reef to maximise the amount of fish that come and how often they come |
| 02:41.46 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe even try and contain the schools from running far and to alternate food sources |
| 02:43.08 | NeonPanda | unfortunately pruning coral doesn't work like pruning trees, as the only living elements are the polyps at the very edge |
| 02:43.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 02:43.49 | NeonPanda | in theory you could break a single colony apart and spread the pieces to make more colonies, but that's about it |
| 02:44.56 | NeonPanda | as to the idea of containing creatures, the ones that want to live there already have no reason to leave, but the things you'd be more interested in hunting (such as turtles, sharks, large fish e.t.c.) are more likely migratory, so you'd kinda want them to be coming and going |
| 02:45.21 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 02:45.24 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
| 02:45.45 | NeonPanda | usually because if they stayed they'd destroy or destabilise the reef |
| 02:45.50 | NeonPanda | ooh, idea- you could farm starfish |
| 02:45.55 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 02:46.55 | NeonPanda | provided you have sufficient food for the starfish you can basically just cut its limbs off and throw it back in the pen, it'll regrow them- there's actually a species of shrimp that does exactly that minus the feeding the starfish part |
| 02:48.13 | NeonPanda | if you live on a reef that could be an option for supplementing food sources- not the most efficient thing ever but doable |
| 02:48.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:48.47 | DrodoEmpire | Could be a useful at least secondary food source |
| 02:48.59 | NeonPanda | part of the reason Australia has such a Crown of Thorns problem is sailors used to fish them up, rip them in half and throw them back- they just regrew two new starfish and resumed eating |
| 02:49.16 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 02:49.34 | NeonPanda | well to be fair, at the time they didn't know starfish regenerated |
| 02:50.07 | DrodoEmpire | Right, yeah |
| 02:51.03 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez, what *would* kill a starfish? Dehydration? |
| 02:52.13 | DrodoEmpire | If not even ripping the damn thing in two'll do it, I doubt any other sort of trauma would finish the job like harpoons or buckshot or something |
| 02:52.59 | NeonPanda | that's the easy one yeah, vinegar also works |
| 02:53.17 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
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| 02:54.00 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 02:54.02 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 02:54.11 | NeonPanda | there's several salts that also work |
| 02:54.22 | NeonPanda | basically you either dry it out or poison it |
| 02:54.32 | Wormydroid | Submitted my last work for this semester, phew |
| 02:55.16 | DrodoEmpire | Oh nice |
| 02:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | Neon: Makes sense I guess |
| 02:56.15 | The_Randomness | Wormydroid: heh, that was me last night |
| 02:56.54 | NeonPanda | the thing I'm currently wrapping my head around is the normal suggestion of seasonal hunting of big creatures doesn't exactly work because preservation is an issue |
| 02:57.41 | Wormydroid | I feel physically and mentally strained, my eyes and fingers ache from typing and staring at screens, I ache from lack of exercise abd sitting all day and night at a computer interface |
| 02:58.00 | NeonPanda | properly preserved, a couple of medium-sized whales can feed a community for a year (with supplements of course), but that of course requires actually preserving it |
| 02:58.01 | The_Randomness | oh dear |
| 03:01.10 | tcm | anyone else really enjoy browsing the new images to see what people are coming up with |
| 03:01.40 | NeonPanda | so yeah, assuming we're talking about a non-deep sea aquatic species, I suppose the remaining detail is what kind of climate we're talking about |
| 03:01.51 | NeonPanda | because that would of course dictate what kind of species are available |
| 03:03.15 | Wormydroid | The_Randomness tfw you stay up until early hours on a project, submit it and then find your lecturer just extended the date by a few days |
| 03:03.23 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 03:04.28 | Tybusen | NeonPanda: A bit late to this conversation but the idea I had in mind for the Razoa coral reef farms was using them to attract a permanent, reliable population of fish and other reef dwellers, not actually eating the coral itself |
| 03:04.56 | NeonPanda | Tybusen: that's reasonable, what kind of waters do the Razoa live in? |
| 03:05.02 | Tybusen | Tropical waters |
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| 03:05.55 | Tybusen | As far as I know, coral grows best in warmer tropical waters, kelp forests do better in cooler waters |
| 03:06.50 | NeonPanda | this is true, though there's nothing to say you can't fantasy handwave and say there's temperate kelps (which I believe there are anyway) |
| 03:08.09 | Tybusen | Yeah that's true |
| 03:08.40 | NeonPanda | and of course there's always seaweed, which might not be quite as giant as kelp but it's the same basic thing |
| 03:08.53 | Tybusen | Coral was just the first thing that came into my mind when thinking about "place where a lot of edible sea creatures tend to live relatively permanently" |
| 03:10.11 | Tybusen | Also coral looks nice and the Razoa are all about that A E S T H E T I C S |
| 03:10.39 | Tek0516 | Fuck Semaphores. Fuck that course. Fuck its eight fucking hour exam. |
| 03:10.54 | Wormydroid_ | Irrelevant to this discussion but I learned of a coral that lives in total cold dank darkness of a Norwegian fjord, it has giant polyps to campture food |
| 03:10.55 | The_Randomness | >eight hour exam |
| 03:10.56 | NeonPanda | Tek0516: need a hug? |
| 03:10.57 | The_Randomness | wut |
| 03:12.03 | Tek0516 | Yes. Eight hours. And with the knowledge the only reason I couldn't finish that last question was because I wanted to eat my damn dinner. |
| 03:12.34 | The_Randomness | that's insane |
| 03:12.51 | Wormydroid_ | 8 hours of exam or 8 in total |
| 03:12.53 | NeonPanda | Tybusen: seaweeds can serve as both a food source, and a filter for the local environment, so that's actually a good combination now that I think of it |
| 03:13.35 | Wormydroid_ | Sitting there for 8 fucking hours can't be good for your health amd will ruin your concentration |
| 03:14.14 | NeonPanda | ah, here we go: Genus Macrocystis, also known as common or brown giant kelp :P |
| 03:14.28 | NeonPanda | so yeah, you could in fact have both |
| 03:14.38 | Tek0516 | Wormydroid_: 8 hours. Open book and stuff but it was 8 straight hours of work to do that damn thing. |
| 03:15.28 | Tybusen | Yeah, coral farms and kelp farms sounds good |
| 03:15.44 | Tybusen | It'll look cool too which is a plus |
| 03:16.17 | Tek0516 | Wormydroid_: BTW, wanted to show you this yesterday. (2 days ago for you :P) http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-talk-4 |
| 03:16.17 | Wormydroid_ | I've sat at my project from 10 in the morning till half 2 at night, but at least I could get up, eat and so on |
| 03:16.32 | Wormydroid_ | Today |
| 03:17.10 | Tek0516 | Wormydroid_: Well we can. It was technically "take home" so we could do it at home, we had our computers. But even with access to Google and StackOverflow it was still 8 hours work. |
| 03:18.24 | NeonPanda | an individual frond can grow as much as 60cm per day in a growing season, and can be used as both a direct food supplement and as feed for animals, so you could manage a good blend of seasonal hunting of migratory animals and regular fishing |
| 03:18.36 | Tek0516 | I also spent half an hour minimum trying to debug my code, only to learn the problem was hardcoded values in the teacher's code. >.> |
| 03:20.09 | NeonPanda | I restate that whoever set such a task clearly does not like humanity as a species nor a concept |
| 03:20.49 | Tek0516 | NeonPanda: My prof said the exam would take him 4 hours. >.> |
| 03:21.19 | NeonPanda | your prof is clearly, as we Australians would put it, a walking back of dicks |
| 03:21.22 | Tek0516 | And claimed some people could do it in under two |
| 03:21.34 | NeonPanda | bag* |
| 03:22.13 | Tek0516 | He's also the prof who kicks you out of class for using phones or laptops. |
| 03:22.29 | NeonPanda | just the very concept of an eight hour exam makes me wonder how that's legal |
| 03:23.32 | Wormydroid_ | Humans can only concentrate at best for 50 minutes more or less |
| 03:23.34 | NeonPanda | like the closest I've come to something like that was lab prep, but that was like two hours work to be completed in a four hour window, rather than "please choose between schoolwork and basic necessities of life" |
| 03:23.37 | Tek0516 | Fuck if I know. And that was the easy exam. |
| 03:23.52 | Tek0516 | Let me say that again. The easy exam. |
| 03:24.45 | NeonPanda | let me say it again: walking bag of dicks |
| 03:24.50 | Wormydroid_ | I've got some two hour exams in January, sitin ones |
| 03:25.39 | Wormydroid_ | Well, I feel what you are going throug |
| 03:25.58 | Wormydroid_ | I'm exhausted myself, goodnight |
| 03:27.13 | The_Randomness | gn |
| 03:50.37 | Spluff5 | I tried |
| 03:51.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 03:51.35 | Spluff5 | Creating a decent looking jungle |
| 03:52.04 | Spluff5 | http://imgur.com/a/HjvQJ |
| 03:52.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 03:52.37 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah looks alright |
| 03:53.11 | tcm | god i wish the GA editor had a flat land option |
| 03:54.06 | Spluff5 | I tried to use natural flora rather than objects |
| 03:54.32 | Spluff5 | Getting it dense enough wa hard so I had to use a really small planet. |
| 03:55.19 | tcm | imo you could use some flora objects to pad out the emptier spaces |
| 03:55.37 | tcm | small plants clustering around the bases of the trees |
| 03:55.45 | Spluff5 | http://imgur.com/a/RJ1zW |
| 03:56.06 | tcm | nice |
| 03:57.16 | Spluff5 | I wonder how small I can make the planet. |
| 03:57.24 | tcm | i also wish the adventure editor had settings for planet size and such |
| 03:58.12 | Spluff5 | I crashed the game |
| 03:58.29 | tcm | nice |
| 03:58.30 | Spluff5 | I got it to about a third of that size before hand |
| 03:58.57 | Spluff5 | I've gotten it to the oint where you could orbit the planet several times by sprinting before though. |
| 03:59.54 | Tek0516 | I know I managed an orbit using high altitude the jump pads before. |
| 04:03.22 | Tek0516 | That reminds me. i still need to reinstall Spore, my stuff is broken. |
| 04:03.34 | DrodoEmpire | Oh damn |
| 04:03.46 | DrodoEmpire | My school only has a 2.6/5 review score on facebook <.< |
| 04:04.21 | DrodoEmpire | In some ways, I totally understand why >.> |
| 04:04.27 | Spluff5 | Oh |
| 04:04.57 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, I need to go |
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| 06:30.12 | Hachiman | hur |
| 06:30.23 | Liquid_Ink | Bwahaha |
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| 07:14.29 | ImpyDroid | Hu |
| 07:14.30 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 07:14.39 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Bot: http://pre13.deviantart.net/cf49/th/pre/f/2016/341/d/8/indy_assault_by_party9999999-daquc56.png |
| 07:18.43 | Spluff5 | Hi |
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| 10:17.09 | Spluff5 | Shockwave Flash has just abruptly stopped working |
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| 12:59.51 | Wormy_ | Hachiman Enough internet for the day http://imgur.com/gallery/zBiIJv3 |
| 13:01.20 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/lJOLJC3.png |
| 13:22.53 | Wormy_ | Why do they always forget Lemmy? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38329740 |
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| 15:42.30 | Charles_Bot | Hey |
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| 16:05.24 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-math-professor39s-lemma |
| 16:11.23 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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| 16:36.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:36.36 | Wormy_ | I might have uncritically spread fake news the other day, http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bad-santa-father-christmas-who-faked-dying-five-year-old-story-far-right-sympathiser-who-rants-1596880 |
| 16:36.39 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 16:37.50 | Wormy_ | this in particular http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/38293294 |
| 16:42.36 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: What did you do? O.o |
| 16:44.49 | Wormy_ | Linked it here saying "this world is horrendously tragic" |
| 16:45.05 | Wormy_ | I stick by that remark however |
| 16:46.25 | Wormy_ | Tek: Also some quantum physicists who work with the theory of quantum computation comment on that comic https://twitter.com/michael_nielsen/status/809095151859576832 |
| 16:46.34 | Wormy_ | you linked |
| 16:50.57 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, Tek0516 https://twitter.com/seanmcarroll/status/806947947686588416 |
| 16:52.03 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: I'm made more suspicious by the unlabelled floors. :P |
| 16:53.16 | Wormy_ | Lost inside a spatial anomaly generated by floor 2, no doubt |
| 16:53.53 | Ghelae | If you're going to conduct top-secret research on FTL drives, always put it on the second floor of an otherwise unexceptional building, I always say. |
| 17:01.55 | Charles_Bot | So I just realized France is going to be going through three Premiers during the negotiations with the Talven Empire |
| 17:02.47 | Charles_Bot | Wormy_ |
| 17:04.32 | Wormy_ | Right, so what does that entail? |
| 17:06.54 | Charles_Bot | Premiers are basically France's Prime Ministers, heads of government. If they are of a different party than the head of state (the Emperor), they are the primary orchestrator of policy and the Emperor takes a step back into a more symbolic figurehead role |
| 17:07.20 | Charles_Bot | When the Emperor and the Premier are of the same party, the Premier implements the Emperor's agenda |
| 17:08.46 | Wormy_ | I see, could it distract or change the nature of negociations depending on who get's to orchestrate policy? |
| 17:08.57 | Charles_Bot | ^ |
| 17:09.48 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, there's the potential for the French position and assessment of the situation to change fairly drastically |
| 17:10.16 | Charles_Bot | Especially since French politics is pretty bitter right now, and each of these premiers is being elected as a rebuke of the last |
| 17:55.17 | OluapPlayer | https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/16/pie-in-space-falling-shortcrust-wigan-mission-pie-in-the-sky so this is where all the budget is going |
| 18:00.21 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 18:00.50 | OluapPlayer | http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/toronto/water-billion-timmins-oldest-1.3898740 also this |
| 18:11.22 | Wormy_ | There's probably even older fluids trapped in minerals in the deep mantle where huge slabs of oceanic crust get subducted. |
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| 18:14.46 | Wormy_ | then again it only began 2-3 years or so ago and the fluid does escape into the upper mantle |
| 18:15.06 | Wormy_ | interesting dynamics there |
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| 18:25.30 | Charles_Bot | Hey Xho |
| 18:25.35 | Xho | Hi |
| 18:26.14 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 18:26.45 | Xho | hi |
| 18:26.57 | Xho | I should really say Hi instead |
| 18:27.00 | Xho | capitalisation and all |
| 18:32.35 | Ghelae | hi |
| 18:38.08 | Xho | Hm |
| 18:38.45 | Xho | Tempted to overhaul the Koldenwelt map but doing over all the territories and everything would be a sod |
| 18:39.08 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://former-fatty.tumblr.com/image/154548912743 |
| 18:39.29 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 18:40.23 | Xho | DanzaDelMondo: Take a bite from the Cum-Cum Fruit |
| 18:40.26 | Xho | I'm sorry |
| 18:40.33 | Xho | That was the first thing that popped into my head |
| 18:42.44 | Xho | You guys are no fun anymore |
| 18:46.49 | NeonPanda | oh I'm still quite fun, just the fully automatic shotgun rocket launchers are in Borderlands 2, not the IRC :P |
| 18:47.24 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: a dark and terrible thought crossed my mind in pathfinder: sea serpent sorcerer |
| 18:47.31 | Wormy_ | This is some serious 2001 Space Odyssey shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwmeH6Rnj2E |
| 18:47.44 | OluapPlayer | NeonPanda: Elaborate |
| 18:48.36 | NeonPanda | draconic bloodline sorcerer, except instead of a chromatic/metallic dragon your draconic ancestor was this thing https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/c4/ee/d8c4ee9732351d4c4c3601d605616d9d.jpg |
| 18:49.17 | OluapPlayer | Well that looks fucking cool for one |
| 18:49.37 | NeonPanda | hit level 13 and you can even turn into one temporarily |
| 18:49.54 | Xho | ANCESTRAL SPIRIT |
| 18:49.59 | OluapPlayer | It'd be interesting for a sea-heavy campaign |
| 18:50.25 | NeonPanda | a little bit of homebrewing involved, like changing the flight-related abilities to swim, but wouldn't take much work |
| 18:50.50 | NeonPanda | you could use the black dragon bloodline as a template; 60ft swim speed and breathing acid |
| 18:51.00 | DanzaDelMondo | NeonPanda: Transman is girl -> boy, right? |
| 18:51.03 | DanzaDelMondo | OR boy -> girl? |
| 18:51.17 | NeonPanda | fuck if I know, tbh |
| 18:51.23 | NeonPanda | I've kept aside from that whole topic |
| 18:52.17 | OluapPlayer | Yeah that sounds easy |
| 18:52.37 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: don't know what I'd do for the level 15 bloodline ability (able to grow wings and fly)- perhaps gain a permanent swim speed and breathe underwater? |
| 18:52.44 | OluapPlayer | Reminds me PF has a race of half-goblin half-octopus creatures |
| 18:53.05 | OluapPlayer | That'd make sense |
| 18:53.40 | NeonPanda | seems a little underwhelming for a level 15 ability, but in the context of a nautical campaign it's probably about equivalent in power |
| 18:53.58 | NeonPanda | god I actually kinda want to play this now |
| 18:54.05 | OluapPlayer | Heh |
| 18:55.05 | NeonPanda | could still be snowflake elf cos bonus to charisma, would just have to come up with new justification for why adventuring |
| 18:55.22 | OluapPlayer | "it sounds fun" |
| 18:57.10 | NeonPanda | going out and looking for sea snek pappy also an idea |
| 18:57.26 | OluapPlayer | Next we have a draconic bloodline sorcerer whose ancestor is a faerie dragon, at high level he can grow butterfly wings and secrete magic dust from his skin |
| 18:57.45 | NeonPanda | hey now, don't you be dissin faerie dragons |
| 18:57.55 | NeonPanda | unless you're an actual dragon, then dis away |
| 18:58.07 | OluapPlayer | Oh I like faerie dragons |
| 18:58.15 | OluapPlayer | I'm just trying to come up with something absurd |
| 18:59.14 | NeonPanda | if you want something absurd, halfling cavalier with a brachiosaurus mount |
| 18:59.18 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (97e6a92b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.230.169.43) |
| 18:59.21 | NeonPanda | and that's actually straight up in the rules |
| 18:59.29 | Xho | Didn't mean to do that |
| 18:59.40 | OluapPlayer | That does sound extremely absurd |
| 18:59.46 | OluapPlayer | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/46/06/98/460698a44d9538b3e23ee84562b6598f.jpg octopus goblin |
| 19:03.15 | NeonPanda | heh |
| 19:03.24 | OluapPlayer | Grindylow is what they're called |
| 19:03.28 | OluapPlayer | I never remember the name |
| 19:04.23 | NeonPanda | but yeah, the Beast Rider archetype has a somewhat extensive list of what creatures explicitly count for what can be chosen as a bestial mount, and at 7th level brachiosaurus counts- I came up with the idea of a halfling who lives on the back of his brachiosaurus slinging rocks at people |
| 19:05.03 | OluapPlayer | Slinging rocks out of a dinosaur's back |
| 19:05.29 | OluapPlayer | Only way this halfling can be more of a little shit if he gets afflicted with Reduce Person |
| 19:07.37 | Xho | ~kick Technobliterator |
| 19:07.37 | infobot | ACTION kicks Technobliterator |
| 19:07.53 | Technobliterator | hi |
| 19:07.58 | Xho | Private message |
| 19:11.41 | NeonPanda | I suppose the ultimate question is, is the ridiculousness of being a sea serpent sorcerer worth giving up the usefulness of being a bard |
| 19:13.51 | OluapPlayer | Go for whatever sounds the most fun to play I'd say |
| 19:17.07 | Wormy_ | I found a treasure of a website http://zombo.com/ |
| 19:17.13 | Wormy_ | needs sound |
| 19:20.36 | NeonPanda | 60ft line of acid breath... ew |
| 19:22.26 | OluapPlayer | literally barf breath |
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| 19:24.14 | NeonPanda | being a sea serpent that breathes lightning is also tempting |
| 19:27.18 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: relevant XKCD https://xkcd.com/855/ |
| 19:27.44 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:27.49 | Tek0516 | hi |
| 19:28.34 | Wormy_ | I was just browsing that |
| 19:29.19 | Wormy_ | Apparently its a parody of late 90's websites that forced you to watch an animation about how great their website was, which often turned out to be mediocre. |
| 19:40.56 | dino82_ | oh have to go again |
| 19:40.57 | dino82_ | bye bye |
| 19:44.27 | Wormy_ | So there's a massive prison battle trending https://twitter.com/i/moments/809784865013071872 |
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| 19:53.18 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 19:54.05 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 19:54.05 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 19:55.43 | Cyrannian | ~glomp OluapPlayer |
| 19:55.43 | infobot | ACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapPlayer |
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| 20:14.22 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
| 20:17.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 20:19.08 | *** join/#sporewiki Luxor (4e580783@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.88.7.131) |
| 20:19.16 | Luxor | evening folks |
| 20:19.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 20:19.30 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: Holy shit |
| 20:19.45 | Luxor | OluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/MJuiCeh.png |
| 20:19.46 | DrodoEmpire | The prisoners have even armed themselves quite heavily now, riot gear and the like |
| 20:20.08 | Wormy_ | I hear they are spraying the goggles of riot police with paint |
| 20:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 20:20.23 | DrodoEmpire | Crafty bunch |
| 20:20.29 | DrodoEmpire | Wonder what their endgame is |
| 20:21.11 | Luxor | Also, make sure to check that site out: http://www.spore.com/comm/prototypes/ |
| 20:21.18 | Luxor | Gaslight is dope |
| 20:22.54 | Groxkiller98 | So... I've just been told something shocking. |
| 20:22.59 | DrodoEmpire | What's that |
| 20:23.01 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 20:23.17 | Groxkiller98 | Xho. Leaving. |
| 20:23.25 | Xho | I'm not leaving |
| 20:23.30 | Xho | I'm getting rid of all of my fiction |
| 20:23.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, I saw, and yeah |
| 20:23.38 | Groxkiller98 | Close enough. |
| 20:23.41 | DrodoEmpire | Not really |
| 20:23.56 | Groxkiller98 | Okay, bad word choice. |
| 20:24.09 | DrodoEmpire | As for that-- If that's what you wanna do Xho you do it. But does that also apply to the fantasyverse? |
| 20:24.09 | Groxkiller98 | Still... Wouldn't that kinda... rock all of history? |
| 20:24.16 | Xho | Thinking about it |
| 20:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 20:24.34 | Xho | Quite frankly all of my fiction could go in an instant and nothing would change |
| 20:24.39 | Xho | So my reasoning is that it should go |
| 20:24.42 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe, but maybe you should stop referring to Xho in the third person >.< |
| 20:24.45 | Groxkiller98 | Not the Xhodocto. |
| 20:24.48 | Xho | Apart from the Xhodocto |
| 20:24.59 | DrodoEmpire | I don't agree |
| 20:25.14 | Xho | Unfortunately I'm not giving anyone a say in the matter |
| 20:25.24 | Xho | I don't want it so it's going |
| 20:25.28 | Groxkiller98 | I'd say from what I've read, your fiction has effected everything. But it's your call. |
| 20:25.34 | DrodoEmpire | You are still a big part of this, even if not the central people anymore |
| 20:25.41 | DrodoEmpire | But, yeah, you go ahead man |
| 20:25.52 | DrodoEmpire | Wrong to make you second guess yourself |
| 20:25.52 | Groxkiller98 | Your call, at the end of the day. |
| 20:25.53 | Luxor | You'll even remove Kicath? |
| 20:26.02 | Xho | Even the Kicath |
| 20:26.18 | Xho | When I say everything but the Xhodocto, I mean everything but the Xhodocto |
| 20:26.22 | Luxor | as Groxkiller said, that kinda creates holes in spacetime of FU |
| 20:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, big ones |
| 20:26.47 | Groxkiller98 | I may have one solution. |
| 20:26.49 | DrodoEmpire | But they can be patched up, potentially |
| 20:26.50 | Xho | Tell me a part of fiction where the Kicath were so heavily pivotal they cannot be removed from the wiki |
| 20:26.52 | DanzaDelMondo | Xho is having a tantrum again? |
| 20:26.55 | DanzaDelMondo | topkek |
| 20:27.01 | Xho | DanzaDelMondo: Shut the fuck up |
| 20:27.07 | Luxor | The problem is |
| 20:27.07 | DrodoEmpire | Don't be a dick |
| 20:27.07 | Groxkiller98 | Not cool, dude. |
| 20:27.22 | DanzaDelMondo | Just kidding man |
| 20:27.24 | Luxor | I don't really read much in FU |
| 20:27.29 | Groxkiller98 | What if the Xhodocto did a 'universe reset', to an extend? |
| 20:27.34 | Luxor | nuh |
| 20:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | You're a fucking comedian Impy :p |
| 20:27.45 | Xho | They did that with the Annihilation and that went nowhere |
| 20:27.47 | Groxkiller98 | extent* |
| 20:27.52 | DrodoEmpire | No, that's really dumb |
| 20:27.55 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry >. |
| 20:27.57 | DrodoEmpire | *>.< |
| 20:27.57 | Groxkiller98 | Didn't that kill 99% of galaxies? |
| 20:28.08 | Xho | Technically 0 since no galaxy used went |
| 20:28.12 | DrodoEmpire | Its been tried before and it had mixed results and a lot of ache |
| 20:28.15 | NeonPanda | ^ |
| 20:28.17 | Groxkiller98 | Fair enough. XD |
| 20:28.23 | Groxkiller98 | I'm an idiot then. |
| 20:28.27 | Groxkiller98 | Or something. |
| 20:28.27 | DrodoEmpire | No, just new |
| 20:28.29 | DrodoEmpire | ish |
| 20:28.29 | Luxor | 99,9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% rather galaxies if to be precise |
| 20:28.33 | Xho | And even then I made Tuuros so I debunked my own fiction |
| 20:28.45 | Xho | Tuuros can be kept as well actually |
| 20:28.49 | Xho | Since users are in that |
| 20:28.54 | NeonPanda | here's the thing: Xho's fiction disappearing won't make the fiction universe less of a block of swiss cheese, so there's not really much to say in terms of holes appearing |
| 20:28.55 | Luxor | Tuuros is a good expansion imo too |
| 20:29.03 | DrodoEmpire | Have you considered handing your fictions over to somebody else? |
| 20:29.04 | Luxor | Duh |
| 20:29.08 | Groxkiller98 | I still like the idea of a new galaxy being discovered. Maybe have a 'gold rush' over it. |
| 20:29.12 | Luxor | FU is already swiss cheese |
| 20:29.14 | DrodoEmpire | As opposed to destroying them? |
| 20:29.18 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Truth is I don't like anyone moving my fiction around but me |
| 20:29.24 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 20:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
| 20:29.35 | Xho | Too many discrepancies and nuances that make it look like a poor imitation if someone else did it |
| 20:29.45 | Groxkiller98 | Very true. |
| 20:29.45 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose |
| 20:29.52 | Xho | As much as I'd do it to anyone else's fiction if I tried |
| 20:29.59 | Groxkiller98 | I'd say only Xho can write stuff like he does correctly. |
| 20:30.30 | Xho | Okay so we'll backtrack to everything but the Xhodocto and Tuuros |
| 20:30.49 | Luxor | roger cap |
| 20:30.52 | Groxkiller98 | Wait... Now I'm confused. |
| 20:31.02 | Groxkiller98 | Is this something from before I joined? |
| 20:31.08 | Xho | Tuuros Galaxy? |
| 20:31.20 | Luxor | Tuuros is quite new (reborn to be precise) |
| 20:31.24 | Groxkiller98 | Oh. |
| 20:31.27 | Groxkiller98 | I don't know of this. |
| 20:31.30 | Xho | Kind of, I re-introduced it earlier this year and a few people have dabbled into it |
| 20:31.34 | Luxor | and Xhodcto are somewhat a basis for FU as it is today |
| 20:31.34 | Xho | Fictionwise it's been around since 2009 |
| 20:32.08 | Groxkiller98 | I didn't know any of this! D: |
| 20:32.08 | Luxor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dbG4wqN0rQ |
| 20:32.18 | Xho | Well no it's not on any Fiction Universep age |
| 20:32.24 | Xho | Fiction Universe page |
| 20:32.38 | DrodoEmpire | Its a lot of old history yeah |
| 20:32.51 | Groxkiller98 | Right... |
| 20:32.55 | Groxkiller98 | Does it even have a page? |
| 20:32.56 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ATuuros_Galaxy |
| 20:32.56 | DanzaDelMondo | Xho: Wait |
| 20:33.00 | DanzaDelMondo | Are you talking about Kicath |
| 20:33.02 | DanzaDelMondo | And the like |
| 20:33.07 | Xho | Yes |
| 20:33.10 | DanzaDelMondo | OR like ALL of your guys including the Xhodocto |
| 20:33.18 | Luxor | You tell me that's a lot, I joined `3 yrs ago and I still know pretty much nothing but topping of FU |
| 20:33.19 | Xho | Everything but the Xhodocto and Tuuros |
| 20:33.22 | DanzaDelMondo | Oh |
| 20:33.37 | DanzaDelMondo | That works, just leave the Kicath and/or formulate a replacement |
| 20:33.42 | Xho | The Kicath turned into one giant mistake |
| 20:33.43 | DanzaDelMondo | They have a seat everywhere |
| 20:33.51 | Luxor | quite true |
| 20:34.01 | DanzaDelMondo | They're in every galaxy, and in important positions at htat |
| 20:34.05 | Groxkiller98 | Will Tuuros get wiped, then? Will it be a fresh galaxy to work with, should it be approved of? |
| 20:34.19 | Xho | Tuuros will remain as it is because there's other users in it |
| 20:34.46 | Luxor | In spite of that perhaps making some fresh space would be a good idea |
| 20:34.51 | Luxor | But not creating new galaxy |
| 20:34.56 | Luxor | exploiting satellite galaxies |
| 20:35.00 | Luxor | like Magellanic clouds |
| 20:35.06 | Luxor | These seem to be untouched in FU |
| 20:35.12 | Groxkiller98 | Hm. Yeah. |
| 20:35.41 | Xho | I don't really want to use my fiction however |
| 20:35.48 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe at some point though, since eventually the seven galaxies will become crowded, we may need to pop more room into existence. |
| 20:36.11 | Xho | Whatever I write is done in such a way that it's too meta to incorporate |
| 20:36.24 | Groxkiller98 | So... Question for the Andomedans... If the Dominion vanishes... How much history do we need to redo? |
| 20:36.28 | Luxor | where *pop* are rather satellite realms |
| 20:36.29 | Xho | Nothing realy |
| 20:36.39 | Xho | Tantum could easily be removed and nothing would change |
| 20:37.09 | DanzaDelMondo | Well the way we could do it is actually provide a closure to Xhodocto fiction |
| 20:37.16 | Groxkiller98 | And what about all the sudden space that was previously claimed by an empire that scared everyone so much, we wouldn't step near it? |
| 20:37.28 | DanzaDelMondo | Say, saying the Dominion dispersed and the Xhodocto left the 'verse |
| 20:37.34 | Luxor | We'll pop it out grox |
| 20:37.45 | DanzaDelMondo | And the Kicath Republic splintered |
| 20:37.50 | DanzaDelMondo | Boom, perfect explanation |
| 20:37.52 | Xho | Well the actual idea is that the War of Ages ended and nothing happened after that Xhodocto wise |
| 20:37.57 | Groxkiller98 | We can't just cut out a quarter of our galaxy. |
| 20:37.58 | Luxor | huh |
| 20:38.06 | Luxor | tell that to Xhodocto :p |
| 20:38.10 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 20:38.15 | Groxkiller98 | They could. We can't. |
| 20:38.22 | Luxor | why not |
| 20:38.29 | Groxkiller98 | We're not the Xhodocto. |
| 20:38.39 | Luxor | if something generates the problem eradicating it often removes it |
| 20:38.41 | Groxkiller98 | And that's a lot of Andromeda people like me could use. |
| 20:39.02 | Xho | As for the Kicath I'd like to get rid of them but now I see the issues of it |
| 20:39.11 | Xho | Half of me doesn't care and the other half doesn't like leaving holes |
| 20:39.12 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe have the Kicath collapse? |
| 20:39.32 | Xho | Don't see how they could |
| 20:39.52 | NeonPanda | see this is where a great reality fuckwarp is needed and then the universe can move on |
| 20:39.53 | Groxkiller98 | They do something to tick off the Xhodocto that make them stop existing? |
| 20:40.41 | Groxkiller98 | Nobody has the right to stop you retconning your stuff, Xho, but it's gonna effect everyone. |
| 20:41.15 | Groxkiller98 | Also, I thought of something that would probably be really stupid... |
| 20:41.47 | Xho | ? |
| 20:41.51 | Groxkiller98 | It probably doesn't deserve saying... |
| 20:42.20 | Luxor | I ACTUALLY HAVE AN IDEA WHICH WOULD CONNECT THE VANISH OF XHODOCTO WITH MY FUTURE PLANS FOR FU-WIDE COLLAB FICTION. |
| 20:42.24 | Luxor | Grox go first |
| 20:42.43 | Groxkiller98 | No. It's stupid and doesn't deserve saying, and is honestly pointless. |
| 20:42.48 | Xho | The Xhodocto were never particularly *in* the Fictionverse to begin with |
| 20:42.53 | Xho | Them vanishing doesn't make sense |
| 20:42.54 | Luxor | duh |
| 20:42.55 | Charles_Bot | The Kicath could draw back into isolation, allowing you to pick them back up later? |
| 20:42.55 | Luxor | not a problem |
| 20:43.03 | Luxor | That's a good idea |
| 20:43.07 | Charles_Bot | If you feel up to it |
| 20:43.09 | Xho | Charles_Bot: That is probably the best idea |
| 20:43.09 | Groxkiller98 | That's not a bad one. |
| 20:43.22 | Xho | Even though I want to remove them because they're a giant mistake |
| 20:43.32 | Groxkiller98 | They're not! |
| 20:43.42 | Charles_Bot | They're a really good fiction, I would really like to leave the door open for them coming back later |
| 20:43.53 | Charles_Bot | But ultimately it's your decision |
| 20:43.53 | Luxor | falling into perfectionism is nothing good |
| 20:43.58 | Luxor | I've been redoing URN 4 times now |
| 20:44.07 | Luxor | and I didn't even finish it in half through 3 years |
| 20:44.08 | Xho | I've gone through about four or five Tier 1/0 fictions and I'm getting sick of myself doing that routine |
| 20:44.19 | Groxkiller98 | Though I still wonder how history in Andromeda will change since if the Dominion is suddenly dominant over an entire Segmentum. |
| 20:44.39 | Groxkiller98 | Xho, maybe work on some smaller, weaker species? |
| 20:44.44 | Xho | lol |
| 20:44.48 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 20:45.01 | Groxkiller98 | It's what I do. Then I can retcon as I please, should I need to. |
| 20:45.03 | Charles_Bot | Abandon the tier system? |
| 20:45.08 | Groxkiller98 | No. |
| 20:45.13 | Groxkiller98 | Just build smaller. |
| 20:45.17 | Charles_Bot | Talking to Xho |
| 20:45.20 | Groxkiller98 | Oh. |
| 20:45.26 | Groxkiller98 | Sorry. |
| 20:45.28 | Xho | Tuuros is the reasoning behind building smaller |
| 20:45.29 | Xho | Sort of |
| 20:45.35 | Xho | Everything contained into one galaxy |
| 20:45.42 | Luxor | Well, Tuuros offered some space |
| 20:45.48 | Luxor | and it was quickly filled with small nations |
| 20:45.48 | Groxkiller98 | It does. |
| 20:46.08 | Luxor | it is as fresh as today's snow in Chicago |
| 20:46.42 | Groxkiller98 | If Tuuros was approved as canon, and discovered, I could see a sudden rush to claim a stake in it from every major faction. |
| 20:46.53 | Xho | Tuuros is canon, I just haven't removed the notice |
| 20:47.15 | Luxor | Tuuros reminds me of current conflict for Arctic territories |
| 20:47.34 | Luxor | exploit resources before someone else exploits them |
| 20:47.37 | Xho | An idea popped into my head |
| 20:47.50 | Groxkiller98 | Yes? |
| 20:47.53 | Xho | Move the Dominion into Tuuros and downscale them |
| 20:47.59 | Luxor | hue |
| 20:48.03 | Groxkiller98 | Hm. That could work. |
| 20:48.32 | Groxkiller98 | Is the thought to have them pull out on a 'divine command' from the Xhodocto? Or something along those lines? |
| 20:49.21 | Luxor | Downscaling here seems to be a must-do since Dominion being put in relatively small galaxy would drastically distort Tuuros |
| 20:49.33 | Groxkiller98 | Yeah. |
| 20:49.48 | Luxor | However, due to state of Tuuros, Dominion would have to be 'aged' |
| 20:49.51 | Groxkiller98 | Would also scare everyone away from it, seeing how the Dominion scares everyone. Because the Dominion is OP. |
| 20:50.25 | NeonPanda | bbl |
| 20:50.52 | Luxor | Yeah, I have to redo URN history again |
| 20:51.20 | Luxor | I really need to focus on its origin this time |
| 20:51.20 | Groxkiller98 | We'd all have to redo history in some way. |
| 20:51.46 | Groxkiller98 | I'm gonna maybe retcon the Mithadorn's age by a few thousand years or so. |
| 20:51.46 | Xho | I think I know what to do with my own fiction thanks |
| 20:51.52 | Groxkiller98 | Sorry. |
| 20:53.34 | Luxor | http://imgur.com/1RCYiAS |
| 20:54.23 | Groxkiller98 | Heheh. |
| 20:54.46 | Luxor | and... deleted. |
| 20:54.49 | Luxor | off we go. |
| 20:55.02 | Luxor | Just look at that perfect void |
| 20:55.03 | Luxor | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Republic_of_Nations |
| 20:55.33 | Xho | See your fiction is all nice presented |
| 20:55.37 | Luxor | Yeah |
| 20:55.48 | Groxkiller98 | The history... All gone... |
| 20:55.49 | Luxor | Member flags & symbols are inspired by Japanese prefectures |
| 20:56.34 | Luxor | + 4 more maps to be done tomorrow, population, monnies per capita and government types |
| 20:56.41 | Luxor | and sth else |
| 20:56.52 | Groxkiller98 | Say, who do I need to poke to apply for Eccume membership? |
| 20:57.07 | Xho | Monet or Hachi |
| 20:57.19 | Groxkiller98 | Hachi? :3 |
| 20:57.19 | Xho | Well I dunno about Hachi |
| 20:57.26 | Luxor | Sera sounds like a good name, doesn't it |
| 20:57.27 | Groxkiller98 | Monet isn't on. |
| 20:57.28 | Groxkiller98 | So... |
| 20:57.33 | Xho | Luxor: Gears of War |
| 20:57.38 | Luxor | >:( |
| 20:57.52 | Luxor | anyway, gotta find a nice galaxy in SE |
| 20:58.01 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.163) |
| 20:58.20 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Bot: What is the closest thing burgers have to a prime minister? |
| 20:59.31 | Charles_Bot | Groxkiller98: Myself or Impy and Monet |
| 20:59.56 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid President pro tempore and Speaker of the House |
| 20:59.58 | Groxkiller98 | Well, I wanna join the PAE. |
| 21:00.51 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid |
| 21:01.25 | ImpyDroid | Aren't these in the legislature? |
| 21:01.45 | ImpyDroid | I was told their Secretary of the State is more powerful than a simple foreign minister |
| 21:02.11 | Groxkiller98 | >_> |
| 21:02.40 | Xho | I just think of the Speaker of the House of Commons |
| 21:02.44 | Xho | He just shuts everyone up |
| 21:03.44 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:04.38 | Groxkiller98 | Well, yeah, the Mithadorn are dealing with a member-state of the Pan-Andromedan Eccume, and I want in now. |
| 21:10.12 | Groxkiller98 | So... I'd like to sign the Mithadorn Republic up as a Exarchate of the PAE. For now. |
| 21:10.31 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid Well uh |
| 21:10.56 | Charles_Bot | I hope you realize a Prime Minister in a parliamentary system is from the legislature :P |
| 21:11.31 | Groxkiller98 | Our Prime Minister is an idiot, I think. >_> I can't stand May. |
| 21:11.44 | Xho | wait hold on since when were you from the uk |
| 21:11.49 | Charles_Bot | Semi-parliamentary systems are a weird mix between having an American-style executive and a British-style Prime Minister |
| 21:11.51 | Groxkiller98 | Since forever? |
| 21:12.10 | Groxkiller98 | I'm English! :D |
| 21:12.23 | Wormy_ | installing Elite Dangerous |
| 21:12.34 | Wormy_ | Tek0516 |
| 21:12.39 | Groxkiller98 | Though I'm not the kind of fellow that sips tea and watches footy. >_> |
| 21:12.39 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Bot: Yeah but from what I understand the PM wields executive power |
| 21:12.46 | ImpyDroid | The speaker guys wield legislative power |
| 21:12.56 | ImpyDroid | So these are different aren't they? |
| 21:12.59 | Groxkiller98 | IRL, that's pretty true, I'd say. |
| 21:13.30 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid It's weird, because if you apply that schema to the British system, the Monarch is the executive |
| 21:13.44 | ImpyDroid | Well, in theory he is |
| 21:13.45 | Charles_Bot | Usually a Prime Minister is a legislative orchestrator |
| 21:13.46 | ImpyDroid | Well sje |
| 21:13.49 | ImpyDroid | *she |
| 21:13.49 | Groxkiller98 | Lizzy doesn't have any real power now days. |
| 21:14.09 | ImpyDroid | Yeah but she has some reserve power |
| 21:14.15 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Cool. Haven't played for a while but we could wing up some time. |
| 21:14.18 | Charles_Bot | And that's what the Speaker of the House and the President pro tempore are |
| 21:14.27 | Groxkiller98 | She can only really tell parliament they're being stupid and to stop what they're doing. |
| 21:14.42 | Wormy_ | definatly, looks like I'll have a lot to learn |
| 21:14.59 | Groxkiller98 | The Queen is really just a figurehead we all pretend does stuff. |
| 21:15.15 | Wormy_ | Xho boom http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054095784/screenshot/177161941179316374 |
| 21:15.25 | Xho | ew |
| 21:15.26 | Groxkiller98 | Though at least she costs less for tax payers than Trump will, or Obama did. |
| 21:16.42 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid : Okay, I think I know what you mean |
| 21:17.51 | Charles_Bot | A Prime Minister tends to be a 'government orchestrator' writ large, so he not only has a legislative role but also forms a government, manages the cabinet, and oversees government agencies |
| 21:18.02 | ImpyDroid | That is what I meant |
| 21:18.27 | ImpyDroid | In the USA these like solely with the President |
| 21:19.43 | Charles_Bot | Aye, except there's a big barrier between the President and Congress, which means that the President Pro Tempore and the Speaker of the House are those that tend to manage the legislature, especially if they're from different parties than the president |
| 21:20.51 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: And if you decide to pick a faction it better be the Empire. :P |
| 21:21.01 | Charles_Bot | In that case, people have tended to look to Paul Ryan as an abnormally powerful and influential Speaker, sometimes actually breaking with tradition to take actions that would resemble cohabitation in the French system |
| 21:21.40 | ImpyDroid | Roight |
| 21:21.54 | Charles_Bot | Where the legislature belongs to the other party and forces the president to appoint a Prime Minister from that party, who then does all the stuff and the President lets him govern |
| 21:22.02 | ImpyDroid | Xho: http://img01.deviantart.net/5603/i/2013/046/a/d/scp_610_by_charcoalman-d5v1eq4.jpg Found a thing to cheer ya up |
| 21:22.06 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer too |
| 21:22.15 | Groxkiller98 | SCP! :D |
| 21:22.51 | ImpyDroid | Also recently found out more about the origin of the Flesh That Hates' pic |
| 21:23.06 | ImpyDroid | Apparently it was intended as a depiction of Hell |
| 21:23.15 | Groxkiller98 | Wow. |
| 21:23.31 | ImpyDroid | Which makes sense if you look at the guy from the pic, he likely represents gluttony |
| 21:23.41 | ImpyDroid | So gluttonous he literally fused with the plate |
| 21:24.05 | ImpyDroid | Also a version of the SCP-61O pic I can look at without clawing my eyes out in horror |
| 21:24.11 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:24.34 | ImpyDroid | I approve wholeheartedly because, as much as I love this SCP, I literally cannot read it |
| 21:24.44 | ImpyDroid | The trauma of spooky pic is too strong |
| 21:25.05 | ImpyDroid | Literally first spooky SCP I stumbled on |
| 21:25.33 | Groxkiller98 | Predatory Street Art. |
| 21:25.40 | Groxkiller98 | 'Nuff said. |
| 21:27.03 | ImpyDroid | SCP-1003 |
| 21:27.08 | Xho | ImpyDroid: My life as of December 21, 1994 03:15 |
| 21:27.18 | ImpyDroid | Literally cannot remember a thing of it |
| 21:27.30 | ImpyDroid | Just saw it, screamed and closed |
| 21:27.53 | ImpyDroid | Xho That Hates |
| 21:28.50 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:29.19 | ImpyDroid | Or rather Flesh that Xhos |
| 21:29.59 | Xho | The Xho that Xhos |
| 21:30.09 | Xho | Basically a miserable existence |
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| 21:50.39 | Charles_Murray | More premiers: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Premier_of_the_Empire |
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| 21:52.30 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ |
| 21:55.59 | Groxkiller98 | I'm working on an interior for Dakasha Station. ;3 |
| 21:56.37 | Groxkiller98 | Just need to do a few more things and it will be at a decent point. |
| 22:08.18 | Groxkiller98 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Images?file=Dakasha_Station_Interior.png |
| 22:08.24 | Groxkiller98 | I need to go now. Bye! |
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| 22:14.20 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 22:16.02 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 22:17.58 | NeonPanda | so I had an idea regarding pathfinder that is equal parts good crazy and bad crazy |
| 22:18.41 | The_Randomness | What's that? |
| 22:19.15 | NeonPanda | draconic bloodline sorcerer of this thing https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/c4/ee/d8c4ee9732351d4c4c3601d605616d9d.jpg |
| 22:20.03 | The_Randomness | uh oh |
| 22:21.15 | NeonPanda | now it's an amazing idea except for the part where the party's collective knowledge skills go from Tyrion Lannister to a couple degrees north of Jon Snow |
| 22:21.29 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 22:22.49 | NeonPanda | also I can't remember if you said you'd taken ranks in social skills |
| 22:23.20 | The_Randomness | Pretty sure I have, let me check |
| 22:23.49 | The_Randomness | uh |
| 22:23.51 | The_Randomness | well |
| 22:23.54 | The_Randomness | I have sense motive |
| 22:23.56 | The_Randomness | >_>; |
| 22:24.27 | NeonPanda | heh, maybe another time for the sea serpent dragon lady then XD |
| 22:28.21 | NeonPanda | one of these days I will play a character whose sole purpose in life is to turn into a dragon and eat people |
| 22:28.56 | The_Randomness | lol |
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| 22:36.01 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:36.59 | NeonPanda | hi monet |
| 22:37.03 | Monet | hi |
| 22:37.35 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: Gonna be with a smaller faction, possibly associated with Empire |
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| 22:41.30 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 22:42.05 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 22:42.05 | Wormy_ | Grr, sometimes my download speed jumps from 3 to 5 hours |
| 22:42.41 | Wormy_ | 8 hours ;( |
| 22:42.53 | Wormy_ | 17 hours >:( |
| 22:43.16 | Cyrannian | Sometimes when I begin downloads on Steam the estimate time is over one year |
| 22:43.26 | Cyrannian | *estimated |
| 22:43.31 | Wormy_ | 20 hours *throws router out of window* |
| 22:43.35 | Wormy_ | Damn |
| 22:44.04 | Cyrannian | It only appears for a moment for going down of course |
| 22:44.17 | Liquid_Ink | I used to have that problem on my old computer |
| 22:44.29 | Liquid_Ink | But my new one keeps everything to about half an hour |
| 22:45.28 | Monet | Wormy_: What's downloading? |
| 22:45.29 | Wormy_ | to be honest I moved my computer so that the ariels weren't blocked, it probably detected network changes and re-calculated |
| 22:45.37 | Wormy_ | Elite Dangerous! |
| 22:46.17 | Wormy_ | I get a lot of mixed responses from people saying they loved it or thought it was a pile of crap, so hope its good. |
| 22:46.41 | Wormy_ | Then again if I can like NMS, I can like ED |
| 22:47.01 | Wormy_ | (NMS got a massive update btw, its now ten times better) |
| 22:47.15 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I heard about that |
| 22:47.46 | Cyrannian | Hoping that the price goes down in the Steam sales |
| 22:47.52 | Wormy_ | Even the procedural generation is a lot better, with varied biomes, resources and terrain |
| 22:48.31 | Wormy_ | The screenshots on Reddit look glorious https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/ |
| 22:48.53 | Wormy_ | ^ that place went from hating Sean to worshipping him over night |
| 22:50.53 | Monet | Not too surprising. |
| 22:51.31 | NeonPanda | Reddit is an echo chamber, the collective opinion of which can change very rapidly |
| 22:52.49 | Monet | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cXO1ddrbuY -> Reddit |
| 22:53.45 | Monet | Or is Life on Mars appropriate? |
| 22:53.47 | Wormy_ | The night of the foundation's patch, the narrative changed from "Sean lied, Hello Games are dead that's why they are not answering us" to "Oh I understand now, the reason for the silence is that they didn't want to disappoint us again" |
| 22:54.25 | Liquid_Ink | That's basically what valve does with Half Life 3. |
| 22:55.28 | NeonPanda | well except at this point Valve has no particularly good reason to release HL3 |
| 22:57.21 | Monet | They appear to have moved on from the game development scene. |
| 22:57.32 | NeonPanda | ^ that too |
| 22:58.43 | The_Randomness | I'm going to go get myself something to eat, brb |
| 23:00.35 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.50 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 23:04.05 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Damnit now I want to play E:D. :P |
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| 23:09.29 | Tek0516 | Hm, I'll have to update my ship. |
| 23:10.32 | Wormy_ | Don't worry, I have a year to download this >_< |
| 23:11.10 | NeonPanda | every time I consider elite dangerous I want to play Space Engineers XD |
| 23:11.51 | Tek0516 | It seems I have over 200 tons of Tantalum left over from something. XD |
| 23:15.12 | NeonPanda | reminds me of the one time I went back to a minecraft server and had over 6000 raw fish in a chest for some reason |
| 23:17.42 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 23:18.29 | NeonPanda | I had an automated fishing station that I just left running and I had no recollection of why I built it |
| 23:18.47 | Tek0516 | Lol |
| 23:18.52 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 23:20.10 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent.fyhz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/15577488_1175264312564014_22328527_n.jpg?oh=58e0783a54b620b18d53136e5c6b773c&oe=5856950D |
| 23:21.57 | NeonPanda | boop |
| 23:22.20 | The_Randomness | lol |
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| 23:52.03 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 23:55.03 | Tek0516 | Wow, I've been gone so long my E:D faction has gone from first place to last. D: |
| 23:55.06 | Tek0516 | Hello Tybusen |
| 23:55.11 | The_Randomness | rip |
| 23:55.42 | NeonPanda | I can't imagine how that feels *nudges Random in an in-joke fashion* |
| 23:56.13 | The_Randomness | :P |
| 23:56.21 | Tek0516 | AFAIK apparently an enemy faction got all bitter and decided to exploit mechanics by infiltrating us and undermining it from the inside (full Fifth Column style) |
| 23:57.30 | Tek0516 | *got all bitter about something the devs did that affected every faction, not just theirs. |
| 23:58.15 | NeonPanda | I see |
| 23:58.44 | NeonPanda | I think the only really big faction politics thing I've ever been involved in was this one time that I basically started a civil war |
| 23:58.55 | NeonPanda | that makes it sound a lot more dramatic than it actually was |
| 23:59.11 | Monet | A normal day for our resident panda then. |
| 23:59.21 | NeonPanda | basically, yeah XD |
| 23:59.51 | NeonPanda | it's better to say I was the catalyst for an inevitable change; I was in a bounty hunter clan and our new leader decided to make us a bandit clan, which a LOT of the oldguard didn't like |
