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| 00:27.37 | Hachiman | Hi Tyb |
| 00:56.07 | Tybusen | Hachiman: Have you seen the new SnK chapter? |
| 00:58.24 | Hachiman | I haven't, I dropped SnK a while ago |
| 01:00.27 | Hachiman | Why, what happens? |
| 01:12.23 | Tybusen | We get a title drop in the latest chapter |
| 01:14.35 | Tybusen | Plus a lot of info about the titan shifters and the person that Grisha got his titan powers from |
| 01:18.42 | Tybusen | Hachiman: Basically the real name of Eren's titan is revealed to be "Shingeki no Kyojin" |
| 01:18.51 | Hachiman | Oh wow what |
| 01:18.56 | Hachiman | That's a little dumb hur |
| 01:19.31 | Tybusen | The guy who reveals it says that it's called that because that titan has always fought for freedom |
| 01:19.45 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 01:19.46 | Tybusen | In other words, it is always "advancing" towards freedom |
| 01:21.05 | Tybusen | Also means that SnK is probably the only correct way to refer to the series now, since the title drop doesn't translate well with "Attack on Titan" |
| 01:21.33 | Hachiman | Remind me what SnK actually means again |
| 01:21.56 | Tybusen | "Advancing Giants" |
| 01:22.00 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 01:22.09 | Hachiman | That doesn't sound quite so bad then |
| 01:22.33 | Tybusen | In context and in the original Japanese, it's pretty powerful I'd say |
| 01:23.11 | Tybusen | Of course though I'm kind of a sucker for good title drops |
| 01:23.44 | Hachiman | Aye same |
| 01:23.54 | Tybusen | Also, season 2 of the SnK anime was confirmed for April, I think |
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| 01:44.12 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 01:44.49 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 01:52.19 | NeonPanda | praise the internet, a bunch of intelligent people showed up and shut down an idiot for a change |
| 01:53.15 | Hachiman | No such thing as an intelligent person on the internet; just varying degrees of idiot |
| 02:09.44 | Wormy_ | Goodnight |
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| 02:53.59 | Tek0516 | Ooh https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ArD34dkf/20161208215322_1.jpg |
| 02:54.15 | DrodoEmpire | O.O |
| 02:54.49 | Tek0516 | Note the fleet power on just that. :P |
| 02:54.56 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 02:55.02 | DrodoEmpire | Holy fucking shitballs |
| 02:55.18 | DrodoEmpire | Christ on a goddamn motherfucking trike |
| 02:55.34 | DrodoEmpire | I need this expansion now |
| 02:57.10 | Tek0516 | To even get this you need to fight that massive space dragon that's significantly stronger than even that. |
| 02:58.18 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 02:59.00 | Tek0516 | I just realized one slight problem with it though. It uses a Jump Drive, while my fleets use the Psi Jump Drive (+50% range). >.> |
| 03:00.54 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 03:04.50 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen Yuggy04 |
| 03:04.52 | infobot | yuggy04 <1804aaa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.4.170.166> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 117d 8h 54m 13s ago, saying: 'Hi!'. |
| 03:05.53 | Tek0516 | I also need to start a new game so I can see what this big 1.4 story chain is. |
| 03:09.15 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:09.20 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen yuggy04 |
| 03:09.20 | infobot | yuggy04 <1804aaa6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.4.170.166> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 117d 8h 58m 41s ago, saying: 'Hi!'. |
| 03:09.37 | DrodoEmpire | Damn, did not think it was that long ago |
| 03:44.03 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Also, this one federation hates me yet I still have federation association status with them. :P (I'll go with them expecting they'll be invaded the moment that's revoked. XD) |
| 03:44.29 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:45.08 | NeonPanda | probably somthing like that |
| 03:45.26 | Tek0516 | See, the galaxy loves me. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/k4Buj3Dy/20161208224507_1.jpg |
| 03:46.49 | NeonPanda | I mean, you *are* a third of it |
| 03:47.07 | Tek0516 | The green ones with positive relations consist of two protectorates and an Xenophile FE. >.> |
| 03:48.09 | Tek0516 | I'm worried I broke the war in heaven because the Xenophile one had woken up but then I reverted for unrelated reasons and it's been a decade with nothing since |
| 03:49.51 | Tek0516 | Hm... maybe it's just MTTH and an early trigger that time. |
| 03:52.36 | Tek0516 | NeonPanda: This screen isn't very optimistic for them either. :P https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jGpA5hmU/20161208225201_1.jpg |
| 03:53.21 | Tek0516 | Hm... that FE I border has inferior fleet power now. >.> |
| 03:53.23 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, this reminds me for some reason |
| 03:53.28 | DrodoEmpire | (holy shit) |
| 03:53.43 | DrodoEmpire | I'm gonna have the Drodo Empire reform into a monarchy in the near future <.< |
| 03:53.48 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 03:54.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 03:54.06 | DrodoEmpire | Well, here's the thing |
| 03:54.55 | DrodoEmpire | The Republic that rules the Drodo Empire is entirely a compromise, made ~200 years ago at the establishment of it solely because the Drodo people couldn't agree with a large enough majority on a ruling dynasty |
| 03:55.26 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo are highly traditionalist and furthermore had no real democratic or republican tradition-- they had *always* been ruled by aristocrats and kings and preferred it that way |
| 03:55.53 | DrodoEmpire | The aristocrats retain their high stature in Drodo society and are looked up to, as well |
| 03:57.10 | DrodoEmpire | I'm thinking that, after the recent shaking-up of Drodo democracy- the Jivirik regime, C's coup, and now a *very* narrow election which caused a lot of tensions- monarchist movements around a single dynasty with a strong claim would gain steam |
| 03:57.36 | Tek0516 | I've Right |
| 03:57.41 | Tek0516 | *Right |
| 03:58.00 | Tek0516 | Interesting idea |
| 03:58.01 | DrodoEmpire | And, eventually, result in a return to monarchy |
| 03:58.36 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, this new monarchy would adopt some tenets of Valerism, and Parliament would still exist, but this king would have ultimate executive power |
| 03:59.03 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be a constitutional monachy, of sorts |
| 03:59.07 | DrodoEmpire | *monarchy |
| 04:00.12 | DrodoEmpire | I plan to write about it a bit later, and I'm very curious as to the international reactions |
| 04:00.49 | Tek0516 | I've been meaning to work on some Farengeto politics so I'm sure they'll react |
| 04:00.55 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 04:01.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I have an idea for like an *extremely* ancient noble family to ascend, who have a huge number of titles already (including many now-defunct claims to multiple Drodo thrones) |
| 04:01.56 | Tek0516 | Huh |
| 04:02.28 | DrodoEmpire | Basically the Habsburgs, if they had a history stretching back to the iron age and legitimate claims stretching from Britain to China :p |
| 04:02.45 | The_Randomness | o_O |
| 04:03.01 | Tek0516 | But not so inbred they're dropping dead I assume? :P |
| 04:03.11 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 04:03.16 | DrodoEmpire | Not at the moment <.< |
| 04:04.01 | DrodoEmpire | I think I wrote about the *extremely* taboo status of incest in Drodo culture before actually, as related to their tight-knit clan structure |
| 04:04.19 | Tek0516 | Oh, and in things that can't possibly go wrong Droids are now the single most populous 'species' in my Stellaris galaxy. O.o |
| 04:04.28 | DrodoEmpire | Assuming you don't get lynched for it, the government'll throw you in jail and forcefully sterilise you and your partner |
| 04:04.38 | Tek0516 | O.O |
| 04:04.43 | The_Randomness | jeez |
| 04:07.38 | DrodoEmpire | Its considered as bad as murder or rape, which're other things which can get you lynched or assassinated, usually by members of the victim's clan |
| 04:07.51 | DrodoEmpire | I figure either could also warrant the death sentence from government authorities as well |
| 04:08.43 | DrodoEmpire | Because, you know, Drodo are fans of violent retribution :p |
| 04:13.02 | Tek0516 | I'll have to work on some stuff from my own Farengeto internal drama. I've got a bunch of stuff on the relationships and tensions between all the many member states and races. |
| 04:13.15 | Tek0516 | most of which I haven't really written out |
| 04:13.58 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 04:21.32 | Tek0516 | For example despite the whole federation of nations thing the FTC is dominated in most aspects by the Farengeto Republic itself. Or groups like the Mardor and to a lesser extent the Gargator who are practically oppressed species. You also have the Former Mardor Territories mandate, which was just a collection of formerly oppressed species lumped into an |
| 04:21.32 | Tek0516 | arbitrary state. And lower Katar is a political clusterf*** still. There's also this chart, which if anything is even worse now. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/ce/FTC_infographic.png/revision/latest?cb=20150319024513 |
| 04:22.29 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 04:23.22 | Tek0516 | The largest mess essentially is going to be all the KSA mandates. |
| 04:23.45 | Tek0516 | shakes his fist at Charles_Murray and his arbitrary political constructs |
| 04:25.23 | DrodoEmpire | hu |
| 04:25.25 | DrodoEmpire | *hur |
| 04:26.18 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, I think I'ma go really overboard with the titles when it comes to the Drodo king <.< |
| 04:26.34 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 04:26.37 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps stopping just short of making him a god-king |
| 04:29.45 | NeonPanda | more titles, MOAR TITLES |
| 04:30.37 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo *do* have quite a sophisticated system governing that though |
| 04:30.53 | Tek0516 | I've also now "resettled" half of this FE ringworld. XD Can't purge so mass deportations as I get the influence. :P |
| 04:31.20 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, the way it works is that your titles become part of your legal name, your full one that's on official registers and is the one used on the most formal of documents |
| 04:32.01 | DrodoEmpire | Titles include everything from honorifics, to landed titles, to honorary titles, to popular and long-lasting nicknames, to educational qualifications or major feats |
| 04:32.24 | DrodoEmpire | Your given name and your clan name being the only two constants |
| 04:33.06 | NeonPanda | meanwhile Fordanta have a very Japanese approach to things: change your name when you deserve a cooler one |
| 04:33.12 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo names become longer (and cooler) through time |
| 04:33.51 | NeonPanda | not cool enough unless it's a legal requirement that every guest's name be read in full at official gatherings |
| 04:34.01 | DrodoEmpire | Actually, its to the point that as a commoner you aren't even entitled to the being addressed as "mr./mrs./ms." (or rather the Drodo equivalent) until they prove that they're deserving of it, which I figure is pretty subjective on its own |
| 04:34.31 | DrodoEmpire | Reading one's full name at a gathering or on a document's the equivalent of dressing white tie at a function |
| 04:34.38 | DrodoEmpire | Very rare and very formal, but it happenes |
| 04:34.40 | DrodoEmpire | *happens |
| 04:35.41 | DrodoEmpire | So people are often addressed by their first name, and I figure many Drodo would find the human practice of just calling anybody "Mr. Whoever" very unusual |
| 04:36.04 | NeonPanda | the ISF meanwhile just have incredibly pedantic titles, because describing exactly what you do is more important than making it sound good |
| 04:36.12 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:36.37 | DrodoEmpire | I figure its also very rude to address someone with a clearly superior title to their name (i.e Duke, Doctor, etc.) as "Mister" |
| 04:36.58 | DrodoEmpire | Or Mrs, or whichever |
| 04:37.00 | NeonPanda | which normally isn't an issue because they communicate in computer code to each other, but spoken out loud other races would find it a bit odd |
| 04:37.10 | DrodoEmpire | Probably |
| 04:37.55 | DrodoEmpire | I figure that for foreigners it must be very awkward, trying to address a Drodo properly >.< |
| 04:38.16 | DrodoEmpire | Especially if they don't know many aristocrats/don't know what to look for |
| 04:38.48 | NeonPanda | that's probably going to be a thing in most inter-species contact tbh |
| 04:38.53 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 04:38.54 | NeonPanda | just some are more awkward than others |
| 04:39.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, and for different reasons |
| 04:39.45 | DrodoEmpire | (By that I mean style of dress or the way they act, which is often identifiable by those familiar. Though with that I'm sure most Drodo are even familiar with certain physical traits that run in major or local aristocratic families) |
| 04:40.39 | NeonPanda | like technically it's a faux pas to describe a Circle operator as "operates the first ten mining drones in his unit" even if he does operate drones one through ten |
| 04:40.53 | DrodoEmpire | How come? |
| 04:41.08 | NeonPanda | primarily because you're not being specific |
| 04:41.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 04:42.55 | NeonPanda | like for the Circle that sort of thing is really important, essentially they see their society as another form of mechanism, and having each part clearly labelled is important to keeping that mechanism operating |
| 04:43.20 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:43.39 | DrodoEmpire | Very efficiency oriented and materialist, then? |
| 04:44.00 | NeonPanda | indeed |
| 04:44.12 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:44.49 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the Drodo would probably find such societies disturbing |
| 04:45.00 | Tek0516 | "NeonPanda has gain the ethic: Fanatic Materialist" |
| 04:45.04 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:45.13 | DrodoEmpire | Seeing them as soulless or lacking principles and culture |
| 04:45.19 | NeonPanda | that implies I wasn't that way to start with :P |
| 04:46.31 | NeonPanda | DrodoEmpire: funny thing about that is the Circle probably wouldn't even take that as an insult |
| 04:46.45 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 04:47.15 | NeonPanda | "You're trying to insult us... by saying we don't have things that make us less efficient?" |
| 04:57.17 | NeonPanda | unrelated note, in FFXIV I have finally glamoured all of my equipment so that despite wearing full metal plate armour, I appear to be in a flower lei and leopard-print budgee smugglers |
| 04:58.40 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:59.20 | DrodoEmpire | Also, well no. >.< The Drodo would respond that they're terrified of the prospect of a society without guiding principles or a culture |
| 04:59.47 | DrodoEmpire | And that they do not hold efficency up to the highest standard, seeing efficency in things as a means to an end, not an end unto itself |
| 05:00.09 | NeonPanda | oh they have principles, just those principles aren't based on morality like so many other societies |
| 05:00.14 | DrodoEmpire | They'd see such a society as one that will do anything to anyone for any reason, and that, to them, is degenerate |
| 05:00.23 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 05:00.37 | NeonPanda | Circle - Well we wouldn't do it for *any* reason, but more or less. |
| 05:02.05 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo find solace in ancient principles and culture, and see living a moral and good life in service to one's family, nation, and self as the highest goals generally speaking |
| 05:02.14 | DrodoEmpire | Soulless collectivism is the worst thing imaginable |
| 05:02.33 | DrodoEmpire | (Drodo and, admittedly, me) |
| 05:04.36 | NeonPanda | to each their own, the Circle are somewhat meant to be an extreme |
| 05:06.07 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 05:12.03 | Tek0516 | ...so the war in heaven is maybe a decade away, the unbidden will show up in the next couple decades, robots are the most populous species in the galaxy, and I haven't even hit the minimum timer for the swarm yet. This game should implode momentarily. XD |
| 05:37.36 | NeonPanda | Fortunately, there can only be one end-game crisis (not counting the war in heaven) so you're only two flavours of screwed rather than four |
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| 09:21.35 | dino82_ | hi |
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| 09:32.31 | dino82_ | hi |
| 09:34.19 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:42.03 | dino82_ | @ghel: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:RNSFSC130Large.png |
| 09:42.06 | dino82_ | space version of C130 |
| 09:48.35 | Ghelae | Ah, continuing the long SporeWiki tradition of aeroplanes in space. :P |
| 09:50.12 | Liquid_Ink | They're not wings, they're heat radiators |
| 09:51.16 | Ghelae | Of course. That excuse doesn't work for light-coloured wings, though. |
| 09:51.38 | Liquid_Ink | Heat absorbers? |
| 09:51.59 | Ghelae | No, equally as bad. And more useless. |
| 09:52.32 | Ghelae | Ability to absorb light = ability to emit light. It's a time-reversible process. |
| 09:53.17 | Liquid_Ink | I see |
| 10:04.21 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://socialjusticefail.tumblr.com/post/153824939019/lordhellebore-lareinecersei |
| 10:04.26 | ImpyDroid | Glory to bicycles |
| 10:04.47 | ImpyDroid | Not the whole post, just the starting part |
| 10:04.51 | ImpyDroid | That is both hilarious and a bit sad |
| 10:05.35 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah |
| 10:05.49 | Liquid_Ink | Also, trains causes uteruses to go flying out of women |
| 10:10.26 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://socialjusticefail.tumblr.com/post/153690828886/a-social-justice-dictionary Gah I hate people who think having a few fucking minorities is somehow oppressive of white people |
| 10:11.07 | ImpyDroid | Wow, there are a few black guys, what a horrible thing, I am being oppressed |
| 10:11.15 | ImpyDroid | I've heard people complaining because "they cannot sympathise with characters who do not look like me" |
| 10:11.36 | ImpyDroid | Dear God, I wonder what black people feel when watching movies |
| 10:12.33 | dino82_ | @ghel: Yeah:D It is actually a building |
| 10:14.27 | Liquid_Ink | Neo-Nazis are trying to start a star wars boycott again over rogue one |
| 10:14.51 | Liquid_Ink | Calling it a "Jewish masturbatory anti-white fantasy" |
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| 10:26.48 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:29.41 | Spluff5 | Hi |
| 10:29.59 | Spluff5 | I'm devising a map for roughly where my fiction will take place. |
| 10:30.00 | dino82_ | hi |
| 10:30.24 | Spluff5 | I actually had a question about possibly already established canon, |
| 10:31.15 | Spluff5 | Why don't all ships just use nuclear missiles? they would be very difficult to deflect electromagnetically and would cause more than enough damage to a ship to destroy it. |
| 10:32.25 | Tybusen | Most modern ships in the First Gigaquadrant probably have sufficiently advanced shielding or hulls such that thermonuclear weapons aren't nearly as effective as they are in the 21st century |
| 10:33.10 | Tybusen | They're generally outclassed by antimatter missiles for civs that have access to them |
| 10:33.38 | Spluff5 | Ah |
| 10:33.54 | Spluff5 | I suppose I am working with much less sophisticated tech. |
| 10:35.33 | Tybusen | I would imagine that materials science in the most advanced First Gigaquadrant nations has produced materials that can recreate the walls of a nuclear blast shelter with 6 inches of hull plating |
| 10:35.58 | Tybusen | Like neutronium, for example, I think that's a common or at least not unheard of material in the First Gigaquadrant |
| 10:36.07 | Tybusen | Ghelae, back me up here |
| 10:36.28 | Spluff5 | Yeah, I don't have access to neutronium. |
| 10:37.03 | Ghelae | Neutronium has been mentioned, but it's a terrible idea. |
| 10:37.09 | Spluff5 | I think I'll stick with nukes for ships and antiatter bombs for destroying cities |
| 10:37.20 | Ghelae | We do have matter made of magnetic monopoles, and that would work. |
| 10:37.27 | Spluff5 | Yeah, it would be nearly impossible to move a ship of that mass |
| 10:37.36 | Spluff5 | As one of the issues |
| 10:37.38 | Ghelae | We also have negative mass to counteract that. |
| 10:37.47 | Spluff5 | Oh yeah |
| 10:37.57 | Spluff5 | How do you guys make that? |
| 10:38.17 | Ghelae | Some handwaving technobabble involving hyperspace. |
| 10:38.25 | Tybusen | I imagine nukes could still be the top-end of ballistic weaponry until antimatter ballistics are developed |
| 10:39.04 | Tybusen | And antimatter ballistics could come late for a space civ depending on their resources, though since antimatter is relatively universal I can't see a civ getting antimatter basics down any later than their contemporaries |
| 10:39.06 | Ghelae | Negative mass fields do have a real-world description (conformally-coupled scalar fields, IIRC), so they aren't in principle impossible. |
| 10:39.07 | Spluff5 | Good old gravometric unexplainium transmogrifiers |
| 10:39.49 | Ghelae | And given that we handwave the folding of the realspace brane within hyperspace and being somewhat similar to the compactification of higher dimensions in string theory... |
| 10:39.55 | Tybusen | 21st century humans already understand some of the basic principles of antimatter and we've already synthesized it as a byproduct of the particle accelerators, I think |
| 10:40.11 | Ghelae | the right refolding of realspace should be able to produce that negative mass. |
| 10:40.17 | Spluff5 | I've decided provisionally to get it from radiation radiated out of wormholes since they are hyperspace phenomena. |
| 10:40.32 | Ghelae | That's as good a way as any. |
| 10:41.25 | Spluff5 | My only problem is that the only wormhole it so far away from the main worlds that the radiation would become incredibly dilute by the time it reached them. |
| 10:41.28 | Ghelae | Tybusen: We actually understand antimatter perfectly well. There's nothing mysterious about it at all; it's just technically difficult to produce it. |
| 10:42.01 | Spluff5 | Yeah, I have antimatter pretty covered, it's just expensive |
| 10:42.08 | Ghelae | What we don't know is whether there are easier ways to produce it, like Q-balls or monopoles. |
| 10:42.13 | Spluff5 | Mostly because of market forces ;-) |
| 10:42.29 | Spluff5 | I use both of those^ |
| 10:43.06 | Tybusen | Right, the main hurdle in getting antimatter to weaponizable levels is figuring how to capture it and store it so that it can annihilate your enemy's ship and not your research facilities |
| 10:43.07 | Spluff5 | http://i.imgur.com/rQZBDQ1.jpg |
| 10:43.14 | Spluff5 | The blue circle is the wormhole |
| 10:43.36 | Spluff5 | As you can see, it's pretty far away from the worlds |
| 10:43.47 | Tybusen | What does the green rectangle represent? |
| 10:44.04 | Ghelae | Ah. Yes, definitely don't try to capture the radiation from hundreds of light-years away. |
| 10:44.36 | Ghelae | "dilute" would be an understatement. |
| 10:44.52 | Spluff5 | Tybusen, it's Vex space |
| 10:45.33 | Spluff5 | Teal is the Perseus Coalition and red is the Proclamation |
| 10:45.39 | Tybusen | Alright, so I think you might need to move that because that rectangle overlaps with the territory of some Human empires, I think |
| 10:46.28 | Spluff5 | This is 200 000 BCE, the first humans only just evolved |
| 10:46.35 | Tybusen | Ahhh |
| 10:46.36 | Tybusen | I see |
| 10:47.23 | Spluff5 | I think the there were empires around at the time though |
| 10:48.11 | Spluff5 | Can't I use the Casimir Effect to in effect create negative mass? |
| 10:49.08 | Tybusen | Sorry, there's not a lot on your fiction's history so I didn't know the map was meant to be 200,000 BCE |
| 10:49.25 | Spluff5 | Yeah, it's not advertised |
| 10:49.38 | Spluff5 | I'm focusing on tech atm |
| 10:49.54 | Ghelae | I know that it's been suggested, but it's problematic. For a start, you'd have to have it provide a greater negative energy density than the positive density provided by the places (or whichever structure it is you use). |
| 10:50.15 | Spluff5 | Good point |
| 10:50.35 | Ghelae | I know there was a paper some months back about how wormholes could be held open purely by their own Casimir effect, but it's still only temporary and it's not clear whether it would actually be traversible. |
| 10:50.51 | Spluff5 | I think I'll stick with exotic matter |
| 10:51.13 | Spluff5 | Maybe through the opening of artificial but very small wormholes. |
| 10:52.24 | Spluff5 | Held open by their own Casimir effect perhaps. |
| 10:53.13 | Ghelae | Opening a wormhole into hyperspace is presumably fairly stable (whether that's down to the Casimir effect or negative mass); at least, enough for you to be able to utilise it to get more exotic matter out of it. |
| 10:54.07 | Ghelae | I think it was this paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1405.1283.pdf |
| 10:54.10 | Ghelae | From the conclusion: |
| 10:54.34 | Ghelae | "the exotic matter provides partial support to the wormhole, allowing it to collapse extremely slowly and remain open for an arbitrarily long time. Moreover, near the centre of the throat, the collapse is sufficiently slow that a pulse of light can be safely transmitted, although it is currently unknown whether this light-pulse can escape the wormhole completely" |
| 10:55.00 | Ghelae | "These results tentatively suggest that a macroscopic traversable wormhole might be sustained by its own Casimir energy" but it needs more work. |
| 10:55.41 | Spluff5 | I'm going into that eventually but the construction of the first one is a major plot point in the story |
| 10:56.03 | Spluff5 | It kid of brings the end of civilization as they know it. |
| 10:56.22 | Ghelae | The reason for the apparent dichotomy between being "open for an arbitrarily long time" and "it is currently unknown whether [light] can escape the wormhole" is that longer durations require longer wormholes. |
| 10:56.30 | Ghelae | Okay, that is quite a major plot point. |
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| 10:58.05 | Spluff5 | Don't worry, it doesn't just suck up everything like a falsely equated, poorly understood black hole. |
| 11:02.31 | Spluff5 | The Vex actually do use artificial wormholes to travel and appear right in the middle of enemy space. |
| 11:11.30 | Spluff5 | I've looked at the current map for the fiction |
| 11:12.25 | Spluff5 | My territory will become the territory of the Milky Way Cooperative. Are they still active? |
| 11:13.45 | Ghelae | Yes, although the page needs updating. |
| 11:14.00 | Ghelae | In fact, I think it still needs its own page. |
| 11:15.43 | Spluff5 | My main species retreats to a cloaked Dyson sphere and goes into stasis for 200 000 years to then emerge again. How do you think that interaction will work with the Milky Way Cooperative? |
| 11:16.36 | Spluff5 | Wait, never mind |
| 11:17.19 | Spluff5 | I've re-looked at the map, the region that my fiction exists in is actually the uninhabited area under the map expansion for the Earth empires. |
| 11:22.19 | Ghelae | IIRC, the Milky Way Cooperative is now a large grouping of planets and space habitats, automonous but watched over by AI systems. The parts of what used to the be "the Civilisation" that weren't under the control of any sovereign state. |
| 11:22.21 | Spluff5 | Bye |
| 11:23.59 | Spluff5 | The Kindred Coalition is now the closest but they're still quite far. |
| 11:27.14 | Spluff5 | http://imgur.com/a/FlQCe |
| 11:27.52 | Spluff5 | That's nice because it makes way for the New Virloyd empire after the war with the Vex |
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| 11:56.40 | Monet | hi |
| 12:00.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:18.32 | dino82__ | hi |
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| 12:33.06 | Monet | hi |
| 12:35.26 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:45.17 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 12:46.48 | dino82__ | hi |
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| 13:16.38 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 13:16.50 | OluapPlayer | bwah |
| 13:17.00 | Hachiman | caw |
| 13:28.19 | Monet | hi |
| 13:33.44 | dino82__ | hi |
| 13:40.08 | Monet | It's fried-egg! |
| 13:56.36 | Monet | Was playing DoW II last night and yeah, Biel-Tan were after the soulstones under Typhon Priamris. |
| 13:57.16 | Hachiman | Thought so |
| 13:59.18 | Monet | They were hostile to the player because their seers witnessed a future where an Alaitoc Autarch butchered their expedition. |
| 14:01.11 | Hachiman | Isn't that the same future that plays out in DoW II? |
| 14:02.58 | Monet | Unfortunately, yeah. This turned out to be one of those Cassandra-style prophecies. |
| 14:03.20 | Hachiman | >Unfortunately |
| 14:03.31 | Hachiman | Eldar murdering Eldar means less Eldar which is not a bad thing hur |
| 14:06.57 | Monet | Well at least the Alaitoc expedition considered picking up the fallen spiritstones. |
| 14:07.20 | Monet | A few minutes after that consideration however, the Ordo Malleus arrived. |
| 14:15.20 | Monet | The Eldar may have created Slaanesh but it wasn't the Craftworld Eldar who are responsible. |
| 14:16.09 | Hachiman | I know, but Craftworld Eldar are still about as pompous and destructive towards other races as the Dark Eldar are |
| 14:21.33 | Monet | Hmm I suppose |
| 14:22.33 | Monet | Though Idunno, I'm sure if they could a number of the Craftworlds would rather be left alone |
| 14:23.27 | Monet | There are exceptions like Biel-Tan, of course. |
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| 14:50.44 | Monet | hi |
| 14:50.55 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 14:51.01 | NeonPanda | playing Borderlands 2 Again |
| 14:58.31 | Technobliterator | what a year this has been |
| 15:20.58 | dino82__ | hi |
| 15:21.04 | dino82__ | @Jo: Oh why? |
| 15:41.47 | dino82__ | tesr |
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| 15:49.48 | Charles_Murray | hey |
| 15:50.25 | dino82__ | hi |
| 16:13.47 | Tek0516 | Hey Charles_Murray |
| 16:13.58 | Charles_Murray | Hey |
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| 16:21.00 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 16:24.48 | dino82_ | hi |
| 16:33.58 | Tek0516 | Woo. My classes are officially done for the year. |
| 16:37.15 | dino82_ | Neat! |
| 16:37.17 | dino82_ | Happy for you! |
| 16:37.39 | Tek0516 | Well now it's exams so meh. |
| 16:47.26 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/accursed-discounts |
| 16:48.32 | dino82_ | @Tek: Oh then good luck studying :D |
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| 17:34.14 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 17:35.25 | dino82_ | hi |
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| 17:37.09 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 17:37.54 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 17:39.30 | Tek0516 | Oh look, that Federation I was friendly with just revoked association status. I think my battleships need to make a slight detour. >.> |
| 17:41.59 | Monet | Lol |
| 17:42.23 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 17:44.26 | Tek0516 | Bah. Their alliance break gives me a 10 year truce with them. Revenge must wait. -.- |
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| 17:49.10 | Tek0516 | Also, apparently it's now cheaper in terms of warscore to cede instead of liberate, instead of the reverse like before |
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| 18:11.51 | Monet | hi |
| 18:12.01 | Xho | Evening |
| 18:13.05 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 18:14.57 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:23.52 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: Rama-Squid - dats rite squid god dun sum tentacling |
| 18:24.14 | OluapPlayer | somehow somewhere |
| 18:24.22 | Xho | I actually didn't expect anything tied to the Chaosphere to be in DV |
| 18:24.58 | OluapPlayer | An Eclipse cultist appeared in the section before that |
| 18:25.20 | Xho | hm |
| 18:25.23 | Xho | must have missed that one |
| 18:25.46 | Xho | Yes I did miss that one |
| 18:26.38 | OluapPlayer | 0/10 |
| 18:27.28 | Xho | usin my own quips |
| 18:27.32 | Xho | u cruel man |
| 18:34.20 | Xho | Okay well I read it |
| 18:34.24 | Xho | droks m8 |
| 18:51.56 | Monet | So after a long while I've finally started watching GoT. |
| 18:52.12 | Monet | Only s1 though |
| 18:53.28 | Monet | But I don't think watching Tyrion slap Joffrey three times in a row will get old. |
| 18:54.14 | Tek0516 | Huh.... I just noticed something. From the time after my university's hack until they took down the system a couple days later all the fees on my meal plan are gone. >.> |
| 18:55.25 | Tek0516 | So basically for almost two days I was secretly getting free food. O.o |
| 18:57.02 | Tek0516 | Ah damn, nevermind they just screwed up the form .:P |
| 19:02.58 | OluapPlayer | Monet: I found a post at the Dwarf Fort forums from 2 years ago, back when zombies were OP. One guy took a bunch of raven corpses to hell and put them there. They reanimated and proceeded to slaughter all the demons |
| 19:03.19 | Monet | Dat broken |
| 19:03.38 | OluapPlayer | The legions of hell slaughtered by a swarm of vicious, ravenous undead birds |
| 19:03.44 | OluapPlayer | only in dwarf fortress |
| 20:32.57 | Xho | ded irc m8 |
| 20:33.12 | OluapPlayer | Nothing to talk about |
| 20:33.31 | Xho | hao bout |
| 20:33.36 | Xho | Actually I have nothing either |
| 20:33.50 | Xho | Got my uni interview tomorrow |
| 20:36.15 | OluapPlayer | interview at the weekend |
| 20:36.18 | OluapPlayer | True evil |
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| 20:36.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 20:37.49 | Tek0516 | Hey DrodoEmpire |
| 20:38.11 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 20:39.17 | Monet | Best time for an interview really. |
| 20:39.28 | Xho | Hi |
| 20:39.30 | Xho | Yeah it is |
| 20:40.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 20:40.20 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/50/VranntanOrderEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20161209203937 Updated this again |
| 20:42.15 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Did you remove the rp we did from the pad? |
| 20:42.37 | Monet | No |
| 20:42.53 | OluapPlayer | We got a problem then, cause it's gone |
| 20:42.56 | Monet | But I did save it to a notepad on my PC |
| 20:43.02 | DrodoEmpire | What this interview stuff about? Just curious |
| 20:43.08 | OluapPlayer | Thank fuck |
| 20:43.09 | Xho | ya didnt blew it |
| 20:43.12 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Uni |
| 20:43.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 20:43.40 | OluapPlayer | For a moment i thought we had lost the whole thing |
| 20:57.36 | DrodoEmpire | I hope to post the next chapter of this soon http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:06/08/2814 |
| 21:05.20 | Xho | do it alredi |
| 21:05.55 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0a/ZhulultuEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20161209210432 I've made a new emblem for the Zhulultu |
| 21:09.31 | Monet | They like their infinity |
| 21:11.06 | Xho | I might play on the Necron aesthetic with the Zhulultu |
| 21:11.21 | Xho | They already have monoliths so Tomb Worlds aren't out of the question |
| 21:11.36 | Xho | Except the Tomb Worlds are actually Tomb Worlds and not host to super old skeleton machines |
| 21:11.41 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: I'm rather surprised that page name doesn't break stuff with the "/" |
| 21:12.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 21:12.04 | DrodoEmpire | I got lucjy |
| 21:12.07 | DrodoEmpire | *lucky <.< |
| 21:13.21 | Xho | I could imagine the Zhulultu having hollowed out a planet and turning it into a tomb for one of their own |
| 21:13.26 | Tek0516 | It probably actually still does register that as a subpage titled 2814. :P |
| 21:13.53 | Xho | So each tomb planet is dedicated to one Zhulultu and such |
| 21:14.27 | DrodoEmpire | shrugs |
| 21:14.37 | Tek0516 | This was necessary in my Stellaris game but feels so wrong. >.> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1I9HCOgz/20161209161038_1.jpg |
| 21:16.29 | Monet | Xho: Makes sense considering how they conveyed the image of themselves |
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| 21:26.25 | Wormydroid | Had a proper hipster night out at some hipster jam pubs and cocktail bars. I can hold my drink better now so don't worry about me shitposting hah hah |
| 21:26.46 | Wormydroid | Hipster 2/3 pints lol |
| 21:26.54 | Wormydroid | Strong Ales though |
| 21:27.11 | Wormydroid | Xho had a cherry beer it was weird |
| 21:27.27 | Xho | Huh well |
| 21:28.08 | Wormydroid | I'd rather avoid the townie pubs on Nottingham on a Friday night don't wanna get stabbed |
| 21:29.19 | dino82_ | bye bye |
| 21:30.11 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow lol |
| 21:30.41 | Tek0516 | Drunk Wormydroid is drunk. :P |
| 21:30.44 | Wormydroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.54 | Monet | Blimey |
| 21:31.10 | Wormydroid | No where's safe |
| 21:31.23 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 21:32.20 | Xho | This is the north we're talking about |
| 21:32.31 | Wormydroid | No one died, but it landed several in hospital. The town council took down CCTV only weeks before due to cuts so who did it may never get caught |
| 21:33.27 | Wormydroid | In the area I should say |
| 21:34.41 | Imperios | Monet: Just curious, have you been following Hearthstone? |
| 21:34.52 | Monet | I haven't |
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| 21:41.25 | Imperios | Monet: It's kind of interesting because it serves as a way for Blizz to expand Warcraft lore beyond what WoW could accomplish |
| 21:41.52 | Imperios | They started off with older characters but are now making expansions with new lore |
| 21:42.08 | Imperios | It's silly and semi-canon, but it's interesting nonetheles |
| 21:42.31 | Monet | It is sort of interesting how they expanded Gadgetzan |
| 21:42.37 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 21:42.49 | Imperios | Then there's the fact that they actually introduced evil pandaren characters |
| 21:43.16 | Monet | Since iirc back in Vanilla the only real significance of it was it was a desert town with an arena |
| 21:43.31 | Imperios | Hachiman Monet OluapPlayer_: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/thumb/5/51/Aya_Blackpaw_full.jpg/375px-Aya_Blackpaw_full.jpg?version=5615a3972a0ea445d444f1f7d4cca8d8 Also pandaren waifu |
| 21:44.08 | OluapPlayer_ | i prefer my girls with horns and goat legs |
| 21:44.16 | OluapPlayer_ | Also Imp I wanted to ask you something |
| 21:44.18 | Imperios | ? |
| 21:44.36 | Monet | I am reminded of an old Daffy Duck skit. |
| 21:44.50 | OluapPlayer_ | What's Venoriel's position in the Dei'Ar Order during the Borealis War? I want to add her to the Cast page |
| 21:45.00 | Imperios | High Ordinator |
| 21:45.03 | Imperios | Basically admiral |
| 21:45.08 | OluapPlayer_ | rite |
| 21:45.26 | Imperios | You could just call her admiral BTW |
| 21:45.34 | OluapPlayer_ | She's not listed on the actual Order page hence why I asked |
| 21:45.40 | Imperios | She is |
| 21:45.46 | Monet | Daffy was playing a 30s noir detective and one of his clues was "find the dragon lady", he meets this typical Chinese woman and when he asks why she's called that, she breathes a jet of fire. |
| 21:45.54 | OluapPlayer_ | She's not |
| 21:46.01 | OluapPlayer_ | At least I didn't find her |
| 21:46.06 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium/Captains |
| 21:46.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh she is |
| 21:46.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Somehow I missed that |
| 21:46.57 | Imperios | Also going to bring Quinniath back |
| 21:47.03 | Imperios | Should I tone down his crazy? |
| 21:47.23 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't know, it's your choice |
| 21:47.32 | OluapPlayer_ | All I'd say is give him more character than jsut being crazy |
| 21:49.44 | OluapPlayer_ | finish section pls |
| 21:52.04 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/60/Zhulultu2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20161209215055 I made a Zhulultu with more Zhulultu-ish armour |
| 21:52.13 | OluapPlayer_ | dum bitch listed |
| 21:52.27 | Xho | u wut nao |
| 21:53.26 | Xho | Oh Venoriel |
| 21:53.51 | Monet | A lovely crown |
| 21:54.06 | OluapPlayer_ | I feel like splitting that page but at the same time I like just how long it is |
| 21:54.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Shows just how many people are involved |
| 21:54.28 | Xho | Put it into some navbox format |
| 21:54.30 | Xho | or a box |
| 21:55.08 | OluapPlayer_ | I can't put summaries in a navbox |
| 21:55.22 | Xho | another box then |
| 21:56.01 | Xho | You could use the boxes for the Dominion captains |
| 21:56.28 | OluapPlayer_ | Maybe |
| 22:22.41 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5MAwyMOmbg Korea in Civ V |
| 22:23.08 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 22:23.15 | DrodoEmpire | Its like my Ottomans game in EUIV |
| 22:23.22 | DrodoEmpire | Though, I was the Imperial army <.< |
| 22:23.30 | DrodoEmpire | And the Samurai were everybody else |
| 22:23.48 | Xho | I kind of want to use the Dominion again but the Dominion becoming active is an immediate Gigaquadrantic red alert usually |
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| 22:26.49 | Imperios | How organised it is even? |
| 22:27.15 | Imperios | I could totally imagine local Dominion warlords having their own evil plans for the Gig which could serve as small sideplots |
| 22:27.33 | Xho | The Dominion is held together by the immense yet rational fear of the Xhodocto |
| 22:27.52 | Xho | Strong enough to create an internal hyperpower in itself |
| 22:27.52 | Imperios | "Warlord Evildick the Nasty wants to nuke the Rabbit Planet so that Xhodocto-senpai would notice him, Hachi is up to stop them because #RabbitLivesMatter |
| 22:28.01 | Xho | jesus christ |
| 22:28.22 | Imperios | Individual commanders acting independently but within the interests of the Xhodoktors |
| 22:28.31 | Xho | If it were not for the Xhodocto heading all of them they would be at war with one another |
| 22:28.53 | Xho | That already sort of happens I guess |
| 22:29.20 | Xho | The immediate subordinates of the Xhodocto have their own motives which are usually in agreement with the Xhodocto's own |
| 22:29.35 | Xho | The Xhodocto are fairly easy to please if you're an abomination tasked with causing mass death |
| 22:29.44 | Monet | Maybe that's the case. |
| 22:30.19 | Monet | The cmmanders all have their own agendas, just don't murder each other because that would lose favour with the Xhodocto |
| 22:30.48 | Xho | The non-demonic side of the Dominion is The Circle of Divine Eyes which is also held together by fear because none of them want to piss off Krath |
| 22:30.50 | DrodoEmpire | Really unstable, but it could definitely work |
| 22:31.08 | OluapPlayer_ | its magic, i aint gotta explain shi |
| 22:31.10 | DrodoEmpire | Its easy to rule by fear when your power is unlimtied |
| 22:31.29 | Xho | The Circle of Divine Eyes are all military leaders in themselves so they have incalculably large fleets to their names |
| 22:31.31 | Xho | Or demonic forces |
| 22:32.00 | Xho | Thinking about it the Dominion's fleet is probably perceptible |
| 22:32.35 | Monet | Thing is there was also that incident in Insomnia where servants of Krath's realm did not-nice things in Santorakh's realm |
| 22:32.51 | Xho | Krath's servants can be maniacal as well as orderly |
| 22:33.01 | Xho | They weren't attacking Insomnia by Krath's orders |
| 22:33.12 | Xho | because why the hell would you want to piss off Santorakh |
| 22:33.47 | Xho | The last person to piss off Santorakh prompted him to raze a city to the ground via firestorm of severed heads |
| 22:34.21 | Xho | I don't really know what the Dominion's non-demonic population is though it's certainly not small |
| 22:34.57 | Monet | Presumably captured civilians, slaves, outcasts from other empires or religious fanatics |
| 22:35.08 | Xho | That too |
| 22:36.34 | Xho | The Dominion could spark war in a number of ways |
| 22:36.50 | Xho | Becoming active in Andromeda or Borealis |
| 22:36.58 | Xho | Suddenly spring up out of nowhere in Mirus |
| 22:37.35 | OluapPlayer_ | As much as I want to use Maknagrius, the Dominion itself is too strong to be used in Borealis |
| 22:37.46 | Xho | Krath - gud waste it m8 |
| 22:37.58 | Monet | Hmm |
| 22:38.03 | OluapPlayer_ | that means no use |
| 22:38.17 | Xho | Mirus would be interesting because of the politics between the Dominion, Galactic Empire and Kicath would be exceptionally tense |
| 22:38.30 | Monet | Perhaps one option is the Dominion is just never offically at peace with anyone - raiding parties mostly. |
| 22:38.59 | OluapPlayer_ | The Corruptus has never stopped being active |
| 22:39.05 | Xho | Well that's sort of a given |
| 22:39.27 | Xho | The Dominion wants to eradicate the Gigaquadrant, that's more or less their only policy |
| 22:39.43 | Monet | It doesn't need to completely mobilise as a single entity. If we go with the idea that each commander has his own agenda, bits of the Dominion can be on the march at a time |
| 22:39.44 | Xho | For a hyperadvanced nation their politics are amazingly simple |
| 22:40.07 | Xho | Guess that would make sense |
| 22:40.38 | Xho | OluapPlayer_: Also depends on how large the Dominion is in Borealis |
| 22:40.50 | Monet | Waiting until their gods say "okay you can march now" will very likely irritate and bore commanders. And since we have many high-ranking officials who are somewhat unstable, you start getting a powder-keg |
| 22:40.56 | OluapPlayer_ | The Kondrakar rule their home sector |
| 22:41.09 | Xho | xl |
| 22:41.46 | Xho | The Circle of Divine Eyes probably have a much harder time coming to a consensus |
| 22:42.13 | Xho | That being said Kitoruka is never usually vocal nor even present so |
| 22:42.51 | Monet | It might possibly please the Xhodocto as well as it gives them less to micromanage |
| 22:44.13 | Xho | As far as I can gather there are six main armies in the Dominion |
| 22:44.29 | OluapPlayer_ | Maknagrius acts largely on his own accord. Arrtkar follows the orders of Shu'wokerama who doesn't really care for what the Circle has to say |
| 22:44.34 | Xho | No wait two |
| 22:45.33 | Xho | Maknagrius is unique in the fact that he's the only member of the Circle to have one-handed control of a galactic turf |
| 22:46.15 | Xho | Meanwhile you have Hez, Siaokono and Nai-Ar'natl in Andromeda so their desires differ |
| 22:46.34 | Xho | Extremely tense also that Hez is a servant of Angazhar and Nai is a servant of Anzilanarus |
| 22:47.13 | Xho | That being said the military structure implies that Nai has more control over the army than Hez |
| 22:47.25 | Xho | Hez is more of the conduit between the Dominion and the Xhodocto |
| 22:48.00 | Xho | The Circle of Divine Eyes is the roof of Dominion politics and anything above them is not actually concerned with the Dominion really |
| 22:48.27 | Xho | Mainly because they're either 1) Xhodocto or 2) abhorrent deities of a hellish dimension |
| 22:51.08 | Xho | I could imagine those that are actually present at the circle just sitting there and despairing the moment when one starts speaking |
| 22:52.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Maknagrius - everyone shut up i'm trying to sleep here |
| 22:52.08 | Xho | Hez - I AM THE SENATE |
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| 22:52.34 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 22:52.36 | Xho | In terms of ties, Nai is probably the most disliked member of the Circle |
| 22:52.38 | Xho | Hi |
| 22:53.54 | Wormy_ | All The News is Fake! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg31rn_9eao |
| 22:53.57 | Xho | He has at least 60% of military say in the Dominion and he's not even a Xhodocto servant |
| 22:54.21 | Xho | The more theocratic members would deem that as an extremely dangerous heathen |
| 22:54.50 | Monet | Maxios - The lip-servant has too much control! |
| 22:57.07 | Xho | Anzilanarus is most likely a Draguros-linked servant hence the enigma |
| 22:58.16 | Monet | Maxios' influence on the army could be quite significant as one of the Dominion's theocrats. |
| 22:59.07 | Technobliterator | oh, have Divinarium been introduced yet? |
| 22:59.10 | Xho | Possibly |
| 22:59.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Not yet, Imp's section is still incomplete |
| 22:59.39 | Xho | As an actual Inferno-borne demonic undead guy I could imagine he has some control over the Samut'angar |
| 22:59.59 | Xho | Which is a little contradictory because he's Krath's servant but controls a part of Angazhar's demons |
| 23:00.05 | Xho | Not that Angazhar cares much |
| 23:00.10 | Xho | Or at all |
| 23:00.25 | Technobliterator | I really want to return to the war once my year is done |
| 23:00.28 | Technobliterator | and it will be after next week |
| 23:00.47 | Monet | Maxios does seem to be back and forth as to whether he's a champion of Krath or Angazhar |
| 23:01.08 | Wormy_ | Liquid_Ink, Xho, Monet: Brings me back to our Minecraft days http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-38252232 |
| 23:01.27 | Imperios | You mean Maleus |
| 23:01.28 | Xho | You mean Maleus right |
| 23:01.30 | Xho | dammit |
| 23:01.37 | Imperios | Or not |
| 23:01.38 | Monet | Yes |
| 23:01.44 | Monet | Brain's a bit drained |
| 23:01.45 | Xho | Wormy_: BLOW UP THE EVERYTHING |
| 23:01.49 | Imperios | Maxios secretly Dominion spy |
| 23:01.57 | Xho | Krath - secretly paragon |
| 23:02.03 | Imperios | Demon flames cannot melt Draconis steel |
| 23:02.12 | Wormy_ | I admit, I was the secret vandal on that server |
| 23:02.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Nag Imp and Monet then |
| 23:02.16 | Imperios | Inquisition's fall was an inside job |
| 23:02.26 | Technobliterator | Imperios, Borealis War plz |
| 23:02.27 | Technobliterator | :| |
| 23:02.27 | Imperios | I can finish tomorrow |
| 23:02.30 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 23:02.49 | Imperios | I have a bit of spare time in my hand now that my practice is practically finished |
| 23:04.34 | Monet | Xho: I recall we have discussed Maleus has some following among demons largely due to being strong enough he can beat some of them up. |
| 23:04.41 | Xho | I sort of miss the Minecraft server |
| 23:04.49 | Xho | Monet: sounds about right |
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| 23:06.36 | Imperios | Xho Monet: Make a short story about Maleus going to Kraw Galaxy and slaughtering everyone there en masse |
| 23:07.04 | Xho | Angazhar - http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/010/269/Screen_shot_2012-05-10_at_4.38.30_PM.jpg |
| 23:07.20 | Monet | Maleus - Demon fire for everyone! |
| 23:08.04 | OluapPlayer_ | >that happens >everyone likes the Dominion now |
| 23:09.12 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer_: I am going to read Shadow over Innsmouth now |
| 23:09.17 | Xho | best diplomacy 2817 |
| 23:09.20 | Imperios | The main character becomes a murloc in the end right? |
| 23:09.33 | OluapPlayer_ | iirc yes |
| 23:09.47 | Monet | It's flown under the radar partly because I have yet to finish the story but may as well spoil. |
| 23:10.03 | Imperios | hm? |
| 23:10.16 | Monet | The DI got the Iteok and a number of other Kraw species to rebel against the Kraw. |
| 23:10.54 | Monet | For most of the war however, it looked as if the Iteok managed to somehow gather a grand alliance. |
| 23:11.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Kraw - our hate was justified in the end |
| 23:12.03 | Monet | Well you know. |
| 23:12.21 | Monet | Keep prodding the dragon and eventually he's going to singe you a little. |
| 23:14.45 | Monet | But we could always still throw Maleus at them |
| 23:16.18 | Monet | Because so far 1) he's hardly done anything 2) his skills in mass destruction have yet to be fully shown and 3) I vaguely recall Kies pardoned the Dominion back in Tzhrwhatever. |
| 23:18.13 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Ohgod Lovecraft's writing |
| 23:18.17 | ImpyDroid | So pretentious and snooty |
| 23:18.20 | Xho | Hez - you pardon us i don't think that's how it works with us |
| 23:18.20 | ImpyDroid | >phantast |
| 23:18.25 | ImpyDroid | >phantasy |
| 23:18.29 | ImpyDroid | >PHantasy |
| 23:18.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachi's away from home |
| 23:18.50 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
| 23:18.52 | ImpyDroid | But still |
| 23:18.55 | ImpyDroid | PHantasy |
| 23:19.02 | ImpyDroid | With a fucking PH |
| 23:19.19 | ImpyDroid | Phucking Lophecrapht |
| 23:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:20.15 | Monet | He was fully convinced he was a scion of the Rhode Island Aristocracy. |
| 23:22.14 | ImpyDroid | I can't help but imagine the Deep Ones speaking and looking like murlocs |
| 23:23.09 | Monet | Somewhere in the Necronomicon is the word "Mralorrrlrrglrglrglrg! |
| 23:24.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Aren't murlocs outright inspired by Deep Ones? |
| 23:25.21 | Monet | Not entirely sure |
| 23:25.43 | OluapPlayer_ | They're essentially kid-friendly Deep Ones |
| 23:30.16 | Monet | It's possible, yeah |
| 23:33.38 | Monet | Although if I recall my Lovecraft knowledge, they look more like Slavic Vodianoi. Seen in the Witcher as Drowners. |
| 23:34.02 | ImpyDroid | Vodianoi |
| 23:34.22 | ImpyDroid | I am not sure what kind of vodianoi you are thinking about but I have always imagined them looking like mermen |
| 23:34.40 | Xho | http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Vodyanoi |
| 23:35.07 | Monet | Could be mixing my lore. |
| 23:35.56 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah Witcher 1 had Vodyanoi who looked like Deep Ones and even worshiped Dagon |
| 23:38.40 | Monet | Basically I imagined Deep Ones as looking like a cross between a fish and a corpse. |
| 23:39.37 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/SHXnfXR |
| 23:40.29 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 23:40.45 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/SVBDf |
| 23:41.23 | Xho | Gotta go to sleep |
| 23:41.26 | Xho | Uni interview tomorrow |
| 23:41.36 | Monet | Yus |
| 23:41.41 | Monet | SLeep good. |
| 23:42.34 | Monet | As impressive a construct as the Lovecraft Mythos is, I wonder what could have been different were it not written by a massive massive racist. |
| 23:43.13 | The_Randomness | heh |
| 23:43.28 | Xho | Even scarier in a liberalist fantasy |
| 23:44.09 | The_Randomness | Monet: I'd guess that the nature of the horror would be different |
| 23:44.29 | Monet | Maybe a little less on imagery of a polluted human form. |
| 23:44.40 | The_Randomness | right |
| 23:45.29 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.06 | ImpyDroid | Monet: IIRC he came up with the story after he found out one of his ancestors was Welsh |
| 23:46.15 | ImpyDroid | Which was the basis for the twist |
| 23:46.18 | ImpyDroid | The Deep Ones |
| 23:46.24 | Monet | It was. |
| 23:46.27 | ImpyDroid | They are fucking Welsh |
| 23:46.59 | ImpyDroid | I made this joke a few times already but still |
| 23:47.04 | Monet | That's kind of an insult as for the most part, Welshmen are in some cases considered honorary Englishmen. |
| 23:47.11 | ImpyDroid | Beware the Sheep Ones |
| 23:47.21 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 23:48.35 | Wormy_ | There's the Southern Welsh, and the Northern Welsh |
| 23:48.38 | ImpyDroid | Lovecraft's racism creates interesting storylines though |
| 23:48.53 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:49.19 | ImpyDroid | At least it is not "Chinese and Japanese people ganged up on America but Americans invented a racist nuke that only killed Asians" |
| 23:49.25 | ImpyDroid | ^ Heinlein wrote this |
| 23:50.03 | The_Randomness | context/source? |
| 23:50.23 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/PP1X7 |
| 23:50.39 | ImpyDroid | The_Randomness: In collaboration with another writer |
| 23:50.52 | Monet | Heinlein may have given us a number of great works like Starship Troopers but he wasn't idea. |
| 23:51.04 | ImpyDroid | The_Randomness: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Column |
| 23:51.32 | ImpyDroid | > The surviving scientists soon learn that they can selectively kill people by releasing the internal pressure of their cell membranes, among other things. Using this discovery, they construct a race-selective weapon which will kill only Asians. |
| 23:52.11 | Monet | IIRC, one of the dedications in Troopers was his old Navy drill sergeant. Simultaneously promising the man will continue raising boys into men for years to come. |
| 23:52.18 | ImpyDroid | This is actually a weapon that infects people's bodies with Fs |
| 23:52.26 | Monet | hoping, not promising. |
| 23:52.32 | ImpyDroid | White and black people are a bit pissed off but survive |
| 23:52.40 | ImpyDroid | Asian people die in pain |
| 23:52.56 | The_Randomness | that's pretty bizarre |
| 23:53.09 | ImpyDroid | No, the part about Fs was a joke on my part |
| 23:53.20 | ImpyDroid | The virus that only kills Asians wasn't |
| 23:53.22 | The_Randomness | I was just commenting on the weapon |
| 23:53.25 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
| 23:55.09 | Monet | Fs lol. |
| 23:55.25 | The_Randomness | "Fs"? |
| 23:55.53 | Monet | The grade. |
| 23:56.06 | The_Randomness | oj |
| 23:56.07 | The_Randomness | *oh |
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