IRC log for #sporewiki on 20161203

00:00.17XhoAs neutral as they are, maintaining such an alliance is impossible in the long run
00:01.21Charles_BotHow do you mean?
00:01.42XhoIf a conflict arises out of the tensions of the Kicath in Mirus it might force the Kicath to sever ties with the Cyrannian Empire
00:02.26XhoSomething they will consider detrimental as to them will define the inevitability of Cyrannus warring against the Gigaquadrant
00:02.47Xhoit will define*
00:03.22XhoIf the Kicath can't use the Covenant as a method of keeping Cyrannus at an arm's reach because everyone's suspicious then their methods are folly
00:05.27XhoIt's kind of already turned on them since some of Borealis appears to have pushed themselves away from the Kicath
00:05.55XhoAnd Mirus is wondering whether the Kicath are gonna use this Covenant as an excuse to turf themselves in Mirus without being contested
00:05.59OluapPlayerWhat else did you expect hur
00:06.02Charles_BotThe French are similarly resentful of their participation in it
00:06.05XhoNot much really
00:06.28XhoBy rational measure the Covenant won't last
00:06.29Technobliteratormeanwhile, URO just sit back and smoke weed
00:06.38Technobliteratorwondering wtf people are doing outside their own galaxies
00:06.42OluapPlayerThat being said going to war with Mirus won't look good to the PCA's eyes
00:06.49Charles_BotFrance - I don't have a galaxy
00:06.52HachimanNobody cares about Mirus tho
00:06.56Hachimanits catfaic galaxy
00:07.06XhoUnfortunately the Covenant was a facade on the discussion between two deities and the threat of metaphysical annihilation
00:07.09Charles_BotFrance - I care :(
00:07.13XhoNo one actually got that message, not even the Kicath
00:07.33XhoSo it looked like a betrayal of political stability
00:08.00Charles_BotI thought they had disavowed it?
00:08.09MonetOr maybe it was Aeresius who didn't quite get the Kicath's intentions.
00:08.14OluapPlayerKoluap - do it like old koluap          shoot gun at head and stop existing
00:08.30TechnobliteratorI responded 8D
00:08.33XhoThey showed their discontent but there was no formal move to dissolve it
00:08.45OluapPlayerbet its somethin dum
00:08.46OluapPlayerdumba
00:08.59XhoThey don't really want to experience any consequences Cyrannus might throw upon them
00:09.16MonetThis is why alliances are good.
00:09.40XhoDespite the fact they're well equipped to stand against Cyrannus
00:10.06Charles_BotFrance - Link arms with us
00:10.10XhoSo yeah by the looks of it the Covenant is going to collapse
00:10.11MonetThe Empire has much of the Gigaquadrant stacked against it.
00:10.52MonetAny act of retribution on the Empire's part will make heroes out of the Kicath.
00:11.27Charles_BotAnd also likely see a broad international surge to their defense
00:11.39XhoI would imagine the Kicath would conclude the Empire as a threat due to the lack of common allies
00:11.59OluapPlayerCyrannian has plans for the Empire. I recommend waiting before doing any sudden moves
00:12.23XhoIt will probably happen further down the line during the conflict in Mirus
00:12.26XhoAs for Mirus, well
00:12.39XhoAs long as the Mendel Pact don't go attacking the Kicath nothing will happen
00:13.11XhoIf they do, well as I said it will take a lot of negotiation to deter the Kicath from retaliating
00:13.13Wormy_Always thought this was a good DCP theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-o_pqYznsU
00:13.38OluapPlayerWhen in doubt, Corruptus invasion
00:13.39Xhosplendid
00:13.48OluapPlayerstop fite or all dai
00:13.51Charles_BotIf they attack the Kicath, the Covenant can lay back and go "They started it, not our problem."
00:13.59XhoKicath - hoh
00:14.02Charles_BotCovenant of Mirus that is
00:14.30XhoAlthough I imagine Xonexi will want to impose rules upon the Kicath in order to preserve the moral high ground
00:14.39XhoOtherwise the Kicath will go out of their way to end them
00:14.53MonetWell if the Kicath are doubtful enough, they can approach the Empire and go "this really isn't working out, we want to rescind the proposal" The consequences (if any) are Cyrannian's consideration.
00:15.44XhoI'd doubt the Empire would retailate, the Kicath are falling back upon the rest of the Gigaquadrant's good graces
00:16.13Xhoretaliate
00:16.16Charles_BotIf the Kicath go for punitory concessions, it's likely nobody would really mind given that the Mendel would have asked for it. But if the Kicath go full genocidal, or try to completely and totally transform the territorial status quo, then there would be serious problems
00:16.26OluapPlayerNot Borealis'
00:16.37XhoKicath - mirus started it
00:17.16Charles_BotFrance - Mirus prickled your pride
00:17.36Charles_BotFrance - That isn't grounds for genocide
00:17.37XhoKicath - prickled our pride                        burn the galaxy               or some of it
00:17.55Charles_BotFrance - non
00:18.03XhoIn honesty a full genocide mode Kicath is unlikely at this point
00:18.22XhoAs much as the Kicath would like to they won't
00:18.47HachimanDecimation however
00:18.57OluapPlayeru also can't kill nothin unless the mirus folks allow u to
00:18.59OluapPlayerknow ur place bich
00:19.01Xhoeh well when live gives you superdreadnoughts
00:19.29MonetWell the Mirus guys do like their ultraviolence.
00:19.37Charles_BotScrap them and build something more useful :3
00:19.53Charles_Bot(Jk)
00:20.03XhoIt depends on if Mirus can size the Kicath up, which they can
00:20.27XhoEspecially the Kicath's Mirusian fleet which is small in comparison to Milky Way or Andromeda
00:21.07XhoUltraviolence isn't the best option for the Kicath unless they deployed another fleet there
00:21.13XhoWhich is strategically messy
00:21.36XhoSo it will 99.9% end in talks
00:22.32XhoI would gather that the rest of Xonexi would settle the temper between the Kicath and Mirus, probably more to Mirus' benefit
00:22.35MonetNot bad odds
00:23.02XhoThat 99.9% is including an attack from the Mendel Pact as well
00:23.06MonetWell the Kicath seem mainly interested in Mirus for security purposes.
00:23.25XhoThey have no interest in Mirus' natives whatsoever
00:23.35XhoExcept the Covenant
00:23.41MonetSo the Mirusians have more concerns, what with their home galaxy under threat from outside forces.
00:24.22XhoTo be honest it could play into Mirus' advantage if Xonexi could convince them that the Kicath could provide a very valuable system of protection
00:25.08Monet<PROTECTED>
00:25.42MonetWhen a deal heavily favours the interests of a single party, it ain't a good deal.
00:25.51XhoKicath -                                         wait a minute
00:27.08XhoMeanwhile in Borealis the Kicath are doing their best to not turn the galaxy against them, so all routes are pointing towards the breakdown of the Covenant
00:27.18Tek0516Hm... My Spore seems to be glitched.
00:27.29MonetThis is why I considered the covenant a deal with the devil
00:27.44OluapPlayerThey happened to side with the PCA and the Indoc Collective's only enemy in the Gigaquadrant who isn't outright demonic
00:27.58XhoKicath - seemed like a good idea at the time lol
00:28.10MonetDeals with the devil always do.
00:28.16OluapPlayerDracogonarious - kicathian genophage now
00:28.18NeonPandaMagnus the Red: Only one eye, zero depth perception, probably hasn't fired a boltgun in over 10'000 years. Still BS7
00:28.24MonetThen you realise the broader consequences.
00:28.43Charles_BotYeah, I agree with Monet's assessment
00:29.30MonetNeonPanda: Maybe he has depth perception with his only eye?
00:29.38Charles_BotA Kicathian military presence in Mirus is kind of artificial -- they have no interests there, and if the galaxy were to go up in flames tomorrow the Kicath wouldn't really be affected
00:29.45NeonPandaMonet: That's not how it works XD
00:29.52XhoKicath - yeah but we like big ships
00:29.57XhoThat's more or less the reason
00:30.22MonetNeonPanda: He's a genetically engineered demigod.
00:30.24XhoThe truth behind the Kicath's military in Mirus was foreshadowing a possible breakdown between the Empire and themselves
00:30.38NeonPandayeah but depth perception works from the brain calculating based off two points of reference
00:30.46NeonPandayou can't actually perceive depth with one eye
00:30.51XhoHence why their fleet in the Milky Way is colossal
00:30.53Charles_BotYou can have more big ships if you don't need to expend the incredible cost it takes to field an active supercarrier in a galaxy where you have few bases and little logistical reach?
00:30.57MonetWHat about one eye with two pupils?
00:31.10OluapPlayerIsn't that a daemon primarch? Surely he can grow a second eye somewhere on his body
00:31.31HachimanOluapPlayer: Magnus is renowned for having one eye
00:31.37HachimanAs in, he's literally cyclopean in some depictions
00:31.48OluapPlayerHis second eye is a purple Ork
00:32.06Hachimankek
00:32.15MonetI prefer the depictions where his bad eye is either closed or covered over with skin.
00:32.26XhoSupercarriers aren't their biggest expense in most cases
00:32.32MonetTHen again because he's a demon prince now, he can be a cyclops.
00:32.33XhoThey'd be looking to plot an Installation in there
00:32.40XhoWhich is basically a Super-supercarrier
00:32.49MonetSurely second biggest though.
00:33.06XhoOr the Kicath's answer to a Supercarrier I guess
00:33.18XhoTheir Supercarriers are the Gigaquadrantic equivalent of...
00:33.20Xhominicarriers
00:33.21XhoI dunno
00:33.34XhoSimilar expenses regardless
00:34.21XhoAn Installation would grant them strong enough logistical grounding in Mirus, and a Supercarrier would come after it
00:34.56XhoAlthough that being said, Installations are ridiculously expensive
00:35.25XhoMirus' fleet would take decades to build
00:35.32XhoAfterwards
00:36.05XhoAll things considered their economy is not as strong as it could be at the moment
00:36.07Charles_BotThe whole advantage of supercarriers is that they can move, tho
00:36.46MonetThese installations are really just really ,really big bases if I understand right.
00:36.48XhoYes
00:36.59XhoMegaconstruct is the term I used
00:37.35XhoStrategically speaking the destruction of an Installation is damaging to say the least
00:38.04XhoAlso a very good way to make the Kicath hunt you until you and everything that came before and after you are dead
00:39.29XhoSupercarriers are smaller, mobile versions and then Superdreadnoughts which are more or less the same size wise but are actually used to scare opponents
00:39.59XhoMaybe a little smaller
00:41.01XhoWell there's only one Superdreadnought that I have
00:41.13Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0b/ApocryphaClassDreadnought.png/revision/latest?cb=20141029191259 This one
00:41.47MonetLotsaguns
00:42.01XhoWell they weren't meant to be guns but alright
00:42.18MonetI imagine it carries plenty of planet-crackers.
00:42.25XhoSize wise I don't know how big an Installation is
00:42.43XhoIf it's large enough to play host to Superdreadnoughts then it's pretty big
00:44.26XhoI might make a page on them tomorrow
00:44.43MonetI wondered if that ringworld in ANdromeda was one
00:45.49XhoNamuezan is...well
00:45.59XhoNamuezan is the top end of Kicathian architecture
00:46.27XhoVery sparse of course
00:46.40XhoMost of it is actually just wilderness
00:47.09XhoMostly designed for cosmopolitan ventures than purely Kicathian due to the fact that very little of it is urban space
00:47.37MonetI wonder if it could be a more long-term project than how long you initially put it
00:47.51XhoMost probably
00:47.54MonetIt seems like a structure where unless you had all the parts available would take decades.
00:48.14XhoIt's a 10 year construction on that page
00:48.27Xho20 is more feasible
00:48.30Xho25 maybe
00:48.53XhoThat means construction changed hands a bit
00:49.00MonetThere might actually be a little difficulty in the artificial landscape, possibly.
00:49.43MonetJust for the sheer amount of rock and water you'll need.
00:50.25Xhohuh true
00:50.30XhoGuess I'll leave out some details
00:51.15MonetThere is another possibility: It could have taken longer, but the Kicath could have opened it up after a few years
00:51.45MonetAt this point most of it could be framework but there are finished bits here and there open for use.
00:52.35MonetMuch more efficient use of time, you get to open it sooner and any taxes taken from residents could support construction.
00:52.36Xho"THAT THING'S FULLY OPERATIONAL"
00:52.59HachimanTechnobliterator: oi you there/
00:53.01Hachiman?
00:53.05Technobliteratorhihi
00:53.47HachimanWould you say the PS4 has better exclusives than the Xbone?
00:54.39HachimanWould you say the PS4 has better exclusives than the Xbone?
00:54.49TechnobliteratorI personally would yes, for two reasons
00:55.12TechnobliteratorFirstly, most Xbone exclusives can just be purchased on PC as well anyway (see: Gears of War 4, new Forza, very likely to be more)
00:55.20TechnobliteratorSecondly, Uncharted 4
00:55.46TechnobliteratorHorizon: Zero Dawn also looks pretty great
00:56.13HachimanAye it does
00:56.34MonetThere was a guy on Quora a few days ago who claimed Xbox One was better as MIcrosoft agreed to EA Access while Sony refused.
00:56.35HachimanDo you own FFXV yet?
00:56.58TechnobliteratorI do indeed
00:57.01TechnobliteratorBeen playing it for ages now
00:57.02Technobliteratorlove it
00:57.31HachimanYou enjoying it? I'm watching a walkthrough and it looks really good
00:57.42HachimanYou enjoying it? I'm watching a walkthrough and it looks really good
00:57.43HachimanThe characters are fairly interesting and I like how Noctis' edgy, moody attitude can be played for laughs
00:58.32Technobliteratorit's awesome
00:58.37TechnobliteratorI really dig the combat system
00:58.44Technobliteratorand there are millions of things to do
00:58.54TechnobliteratorI've been so busy with the sidequests I haven't even got that far in the main story
00:59.05HachimanOh yeah, it looks it
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01:01.35HachimanI still haven't watched the Kingsglaive anime though so I'd probably be missing stuff out from the story and characters
01:05.54TechnobliteratorBrotherhood is the anime, Kingsglaive is the film
01:06.21TechnobliteratorKingsglaive only sets up a plot point that you find out about 25 minutes into the film, and other than that, is just a glorified trailer for the game
01:06.40Charles_MurrayPreview of the French Empire's next Premier: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Raymond_Duffet.png
01:07.28Xhoraymond duff beer
01:14.40MonetA bit on the mature side.
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01:17.08HachimanFucking internet goddamn
01:17.32HachimanI cut out after saying I hadn't watched any of the animated stuff for FFXV thus far
01:20.41Technobliterator:V
01:20.59TechnobliteratorBrotherhood is the anime, which tells you about the relationship of the characters, it's worth watching to get to know them first
01:21.25TechnobliteratorKingsglaive reveals plot points that you basically learn about in the game anyway, it's a fun but non-essential watch that is basically all action and no real substance
01:21.32HachimanAh right
01:21.52HachimanI might check out Brotherhood and leave Kingsglaive for later then
01:22.16MonetRandomly thinking which Chaos god I might find myself being an aspirant of. Khorne might drive me mad the quickest, Nurgle no bloody way, Slaanesh mmmmayyybeee, Tzeentch also a probability.
01:22.25Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#It_has_come_to_our_attention
01:22.32TechnobliteratorThat would be smart, yeah
01:22.32Wormy_DCP message
01:23.14TechnobliteratorNice images :o
01:23.23NeonPandaMonet: y u no want santa nurgle's presents
01:23.31HachimanMonet: Why not Nurgle?
01:23.44MonetNurgle's nature repulses me.
01:24.08Wormy_Imperios made the Lunarai  one
01:24.12HachimanNurgle is the friendliest Chaos God; he wants to make sure you live a life free of pain and suffering and gives you gifts without asking for much in return
01:24.22MonetI don't care how friendly he is, to follow him is to enter a world where saying "I hope you get cancer" is a compliment.
01:26.47MonetThen again by that trail of thought to follow Slaanesh would warp my interests into...interesting ends.
01:26.48Wormy_made some grammatical, form-matical, and spelling mistake foxes
01:26.51Wormy_fixes
01:27.36HachimanYou do not like the friendly Chaos God who wants people to live a pain-free immortal life for almost nothing yet you'll consider the Chaos God that embodies rape and obsession and the Chaos God that embodies being a cheeky backstabbing fucking bastard who can't take a loss
01:29.06XhoI wouldn't necessarily want to follow a fat pustulating fuck
01:29.20MonetTzeentch is not just treachery and deceit.
01:29.27XhoJust what kind of example is that for the children
01:30.00HachimanXho: He's like a giant Danny DeVito + Santa Claus
01:30.04Xhoew
01:31.04MonetTzeench is also an entity of knowledge while Slaanesh enjoys beautiful and meaningful things,
01:31.21MonetI suppose we're both affected by our percpetions
01:32.15Xhoskulls for the skull throne
01:32.36XhoOne thing I don't get
01:32.45XhoAre the Chaos Gods consistent between Warhammer and 40K
01:32.52HachimanKinda
01:34.56HachimanI much prefer WHFB's Khorne to WH40K's Khorne; Fantasy Khorne is a deity who represents War, Death, Courage, Rage, Strength and Hate, while 40K Khorne represents Blood, War and Murder
01:35.15Xhoborkf for the borkf throne
01:35.34HachimanFantasy Khorne is more a Norse-style god of warriors while 40K Khorne is a god of psychopaths and serial killers
01:37.11MonetSlaanesh in 40K was born when an entire empire metaphorically fucked a new god into existence while in Fantasy Slaanesh was sort of always there.
01:39.05XhoSo basically Slaanesh is the incarnation of an orgy
01:39.23MonetThat's his/her/its most common domain
01:40.14MonetSlaanesh is "the prince of excess" - and their domain is basically any form of pleasure or enjoyment.
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01:41.00Xhofanciful
01:41.29HachimanA fucking power cut, seriously
01:42.11Wormy_Hachi:  Lunarai speaks http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#It_has_come_to_our_attention
01:42.35MonetGenerally more dedicated champions wil lgo really exotic
01:43.08MonetI could consider Hannibal Lecter a possible Slaaneshi cultist for his love of eating people in roast dinners and served with wine.
01:43.23NeonPandaand beans, don't forget the beans
01:43.25Wormy_Oops sorry, I thought you had just joined
01:43.50XhoDCP comes back to life and the Xhodocto aren't about                                                 shit's going down
01:44.13XhoIn that case it would be a fine chianti
01:44.17XhoNever actually had chianti
01:44.24XhoI don't like wine come to think of it
01:44.32HachimanAs I was saying before
01:44.34Wormy_It probably has taken them a while to recover from GXS, and then to be kicked again by the Loron
01:44.52Charles_MurrayHahahaha, they were 'reawoken' by the Talva
01:44.54Charles_MurrayOh man
01:45.01NeonPandatime for round two with the frilled shark
01:45.02Charles_MurrayThat's going to hurt
01:45.15Monet...actually I just remembered. While devoting oneself to Nurgle turns you into a walking sack of pus, Tzeentch sure does love his mutations.
01:45.43NeonPandaonly choice you get with Tzeentch is "All of the Above"
01:46.06HachimanFantasy Khorne seems far more noble to me than 40K Khorne
01:46.34NeonPandathat's cos there's more noble in the fantasy world, and more psycho in the 40k world
01:47.08Hachiman40K Khornates take "does not care from whence the blood flows" far more literally and carry almost none of the actual martial honour that Fantasy Khornates do
01:48.42HachimanAnd it is said that while Fantasy Khorne also "does not care from whence the blood flows", it's more in reference to the fact he does not mind whether you are slaying your allies or enemies - not going for easy, vulnerable and defenceless targets to shed blood from like the World Eaters and other Khornate cultists do
01:48.49MonetThis might be part of what turned me off about Warhammer Online
01:49.39MonetThe Fantasy World may have many problems but at least humanity is in a fairly strong position and the only threat to the elves are the Dark Elves and too much chaos.
01:50.07HachimanWith Fantasy Khornates, if you're an unarmed partisan, at the very least you are left to be killed last
01:50.11MonetWarhammer Online went 40K levels of grim like cursing Talabecland with a plague.
01:51.57Charles_MurrayXho : Oh my, the MP replied
01:52.41XhoKicath - lol                      spirit
01:53.12Charles_MurrayHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
01:53.25Charles_MurrayEdit on the relations sections of Zilla's pages
01:53.34Charles_MurrayMoving the Kicath from "Friends" to "Disliked"
01:53.42XhoKicath were always disliked
01:54.14Charles_MurrayOn the Zarbania page they used to be under Neutral, sorry
01:57.57Tek0516O.o Spore crashed
02:00.26XhoKitravasuron's now just turning the argument on its head
02:00.53Tek0516Hm... Spore isn't even starting now. :/
02:02.01Tek0516Why are you doing this to me Maxis, I just finished my creations. ><
02:03.21Monet<PROTECTED>
02:03.57XhoEDIT CONFLICT
02:05.30Tek0516Half the graphics in Spore and missing and none of the GA stuff is there. Bah.
02:06.31Xho"Dominion of the Xhodocto - We at war? A pity for you."                           Hez -                             well alright then
02:09.22Wormy_'SporeWiki has been deleted'
02:09.27Wormy_mwah hah hah >:)
02:09.44XhoAngazhar - well that settled that
02:13.08Tek0516Guess I need to reinstall spore now? >.<
02:14.14Wormy_Speaking of games
02:14.23Wormy_I'm going to teleport my mind into No Man's Sky's new Foundations Update
02:15.34XhoI'm gonna go to sleep because somehow in my weakened state I'm up at 2:15 in the morning
02:15.42XhoI blame you all for this
02:17.03Wormy_gamingIts Saturday tomorrow
02:17.07Wormy_gaminglay in
02:17.51Tek0516Saturday is the only day of the week I get to sleep in.
02:19.54Wormy_gamingIf I go and play NMS till 4 I won't be up till lunch time
02:22.32Tek0516I think I'll go play some more Stellaris.
02:24.09NeonPandawhen in doubt, pizza lunch
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02:33.58Tek0516wb Charles_Murray
02:34.05Charles_Murrayty
02:43.29DrodoAwaytest
02:43.36DrodoEmpireHayy lmao
02:43.48NeonPandahi
02:45.55HachimanOH MY FUCKING GOD FUCK OFF YOU PIECE OF SHIT FUCKING INTERNET CUNT
02:46.08HachimanFUCK OFF WITH YOU FUCKING MAKING ALL OF MY FUCKING EDITING WORK REDUNDANT
02:46.59NeonPandaneed a hug?
02:47.13HachimanNo, no, it's better now
02:47.24HachimanThis fucking internet recently though
02:47.34DrodoEmpireITS THE RUSSIANS
02:47.42DrodoEmpire<.<
02:47.48HachimanDrodoEmpire: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Khargrim_Greatholds#History Greatholds now have a Coat of Arms in their infobox (courtesy of Imp) and more / revised history
02:47.55DrodoEmpireOh cool
02:47.58NeonPandathe russians are behind everything except russia
02:48.13HachimanRevised as in, not so "wall of text-y" in the second section
02:48.20Hachimanof history
03:03.19NeonPandaok, that might have been a bit too much pizza
03:03.38DrodoEmpiredum
03:22.20Tek0516...so I tried replaying Euro Truck Simulator. Somehow I got the middle of my trailer stuck on the middle rail...
03:26.29DrodoEmpirewat
03:35.32Tek0516Like this https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Eg0h8Elk/20161202222024_1.jpg
03:35.40Tek0516Hit probably half a dozen cars getting out
03:54.45Wormy_gaminggoodnight
05:03.24The_RandomnessI learned today that naturally occurring electrum is a thing
05:03.43DrodoEmpireHm?
05:03.58The_Randomnessfor some reason I just thought it was a man-made alloy of gold/silver
05:05.21DrodoEmpireAh
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11:02.30NeonPandahi oluap
11:02.43NeonPandagetting back into FFXIV reminded me of the pains of being a tank
11:03.41OluapPlayerHi
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12:37.27JepardiHi
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13:31.36HachimanHi
13:33.11GhelaeHi
13:33.41Monethi
13:33.52OluapPlayerhi
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13:39.28MonetI woke up this morning with thoughts for the Black Inquisition.
13:40.11HachimanOh?
13:45.16MonetMostly stuff I've already done. Did wonder about their relationships with the various corruptus demons
14:08.03Monethttps://www.artstation.com/artist/turpedo I found the artist who made the Fel Kitty
14:23.11OluapPlayerInteresting
14:25.40OluapPlayerAnd what do you mean with relationship?
14:26.07MonetAny particular demons they work with
14:26.50MonetI recall the black inquisition has a working partnership with a number of ocularivs
14:29.09OluapPlayerYou answered your own question there
14:29.57MonetI recall one chapter also had one of those machete-wielding demons walking about their fortress.
14:34.51OluapPlayerThey do it with every mortal servant group, not just the Inquisition
14:35.09OluapPlayerThey're the ones who ensure the mortals are doing their jobs and being obedient
14:35.16OluapPlayerMortals serve demons, not the other way around
14:35.34MonetYeah I was going to say.
14:35.47MonetI need food, my brain's running at 20%
14:35.57OluapPlayeru gon doi
14:36.07OluapPlayerActually I need lunch too
14:36.14OluapPlayerTime passed quickly this morning
14:38.43Monetbbl, then we can do stuff if you like
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15:04.11ImpyDroidHi
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15:46.40ImpyDroidTechnobliterator Hachiman: So apparently Russia has one of the largest percentages of women in senior executive roles in the world - around 45%
15:46.50ImpyDroidThat is three times more than in, say, Germany
15:47.29ImpyDroidAnd six times more than in Japan for example
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15:49.52dino82_hi
15:49.55XhoHi
15:50.23dino82_:d
15:50.36ImpyDroidHi
15:55.07XhoSo what to do today
15:55.13dino82_Going to war?
15:55.18Xhoeh maybe
15:55.20dino82_Making diplomatic allies?
15:55.22dino82_:P
15:55.31ImpyDroidXho: Hmm
15:55.44ImpyDroidTry to make a coat of aems
15:55.45ImpyDroid*arms
15:55.51Xhocannae do that captain
15:55.52ImpyDroidSomething traditionally heraldic
15:55.57Xhobrain does not work on human level
15:56.01ImpyDroidFor some fantasy faction like Talmyr
15:56.10ImpyDroidHeraldry is not hard
15:56.21ImpyDroidAnd not very human either
15:56.36ImpyDroidSome coats of arms can look very outlandish and show very odd things
15:58.31XhoHm
15:59.03XhoI'm currently on a Fictionverse binge however
16:00.12XhoAh yes I remember now
16:00.23XhoI was going to do something on the Installations
16:00.54XhoHachiman ImpyDroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38nfPs-jkgw
16:02.42Xhotunak at terminal velocity
16:10.10MonetBack, took longer than I initialyl planned
16:10.13Xhohi
16:10.42XhoTrying to figure out a way to format a military page
16:10.46Xhohm
16:12.37dino82_hi
16:13.09MonetHmm.
16:13.57MonetPerhaps start with organisation, then military branches, then equipment?
16:14.29XhoI guess that works
16:14.38XhoI'm gonna work on an emblem for them first
16:18.19MonetImperios Hachiman: I got a chance to see Magnus the Red's model today
16:18.42MonetAnd noticed GW Brought out a codex for Jeanstealer cults.
16:22.32MonetAll hail Magnus' glorious nipple-horns!
16:27.46OluapPlayerMonet ImpyDroid: Went to Zul'Aman to get a mount there, and all the trolls of the place are terrified of my sword
16:27.59OluapPlayerTo the point all they do is cower when I get close, even the bosses
16:32.14Tek0516~test
16:32.14infobotwell, test is not funny
16:37.35Monet"please don'y poke me mon"
16:37.38Monetdon't*
16:38.11OluapPlayerhttp://wow.gamepedia.com/Surrounded_by_Trolls!
16:38.22OluapPlayerApparently I'm the terror of every troll mob in the game now
16:47.43dino82_lol
16:47.46dino82_good job!
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17:04.15dino82_@oluap you also gained titles et?
17:04.18dino82_Like King Slayer or Highlord?
17:07.26ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Dat sword be scary mon
17:07.54OluapPlayerI didn't get any titles for getting the sword
17:08.16ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: You are wielding the sword of the Trollbanes
17:08.19ImpyDroidTROLLbanes
17:08.24ImpyDroidHoly shit I just realised that
17:08.51ImpyDroidTry doing Throne of Thunder
17:09.06OluapPlayerI thought of that
17:09.12OluapPlayerNot strong enough though
17:09.47ImpyDroidExactly, which is where Strom'kar comes in play
17:10.09OluapPlayerYeah but there's more than just trolls there
17:10.17ImpyDroidThe early parts are basically all troll
17:10.26OluapPlayerI'm not gonna travel all the way there just to get killed by mogu thx
17:10.30XhoTechnobliterator: I've been listening to Childish Gambino recently, really good
17:10.31ImpyDroidAlso holy shit your weapon actually has some lore
17:10.38Technobliterator:o
17:10.43ImpyDroidMeanwhile I have an ancient hozen staff
17:10.52ImpyDroidHOZEN staff
17:12.11OluapPlayerOOK YOU IN THE DOOKER
17:12.22HachimanWho pinged me and for what?
17:12.48ImpyDroidFor Magnus
17:12.49HachimanAh right
17:13.21OluapPlayerHozen are the best so I don't know why you'd complain
17:13.54OluapPlayerI wasn't aware of the whole troll relation with Strom'kar until today
17:17.00ImpyDroidI unlocked the appearance that makes it more mogu-ish though
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17:23.25Wormy_hi
17:23.39ImpyDroidOluapPlayer Monet Hachiman: Would you say "Indricarron" is too weird a name for a Radeon?
17:23.49ImpyDroidShould I change it?
17:23.50HachimanNah
17:24.43OluapPlayerIt isn't any weirder than Matheoward
17:25.10ImpyDroidAh, the good old days when I gave Radeons retarded Warhammer names
17:25.21ImpyDroidYeah probably going to keep it
17:26.19ImpyDroidMaybe Indricarron is the Radeon equivalent of a weird Biblical name like Jebediah
17:27.06Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/94/KRepMilitaryEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20161203172338 Military Emblem
17:28.18ImpyDroidXho: I can totally see Kicath soldiers wearing that on their hats
17:28.26Xhohats
17:28.29ImpyDroidHaving that
17:28.31Xhoas if Kicath wear hats
17:28.51ImpyDroidWhat civilised sapient being would not wear a hat
17:28.59XhoWell
17:29.04XhoHave you see the Kicath's heads
17:29.07XhoNot hat-friendly
17:29.27ImpyDroidYou just need a hat shaped for a longer head
17:29.40XhoThat would just look weird
17:29.48ImpyDroidAnyway, well outside of a cockade on a cap it would look good as a badge
17:29.58ImpyDroidWhat kind of applications do you use for this?
17:30.21XhoIt would serve as an emblem on their armour for one
17:30.30ImpyDroidYeah that is what I meant
17:30.37ImpyDroidAny symbolism behind the emblem?
17:30.42XhoNot really
17:30.49XhoThe Kicath aren't into symbolism
17:31.16XhoThey let numbers and firepower do the symbolising for them
17:32.11ImpyDroidWell flags and emblems usually carry some symbolism
17:32.24ImpyDroidThat or they just need to look striking to stand out
17:32.48XhoKicath - does destroying a planet instantaneously count
17:33.10ImpyDroidOh here is a random idea
17:33.21ImpyDroidYou as a musician and amateur linguist can handle this
17:33.25ImpyDroidMake the Kicath anthem
17:33.38Xho>amateur linguist
17:33.39Xhoouch
17:33.54XhoAlso I don't know why the Kicath would have an anthem
17:34.05ImpyDroidWell why not
17:34.23XhoUnlike 99% of the Gigaquadrant, symbolism and anthemic ideals are meaningless to them
17:34.24ImpyDroidThey could have some sort of military march
17:34.42ImpyDroidI mean they do not march to silence do they
17:35.09Xhowell
17:35.11Xhoyes
17:35.14ImpyDroidas for amateur, what I mean is that you are not professionally educated in the sphere
17:35.48XhoA Kicath's argument would be "why march to a song when there's work to be done"
17:36.14XhoAlso the concept of music doesn't exist to the Kicath either
17:36.14ImpyDroidBecause drums help maintain rhythm
17:36.16ImpyDroidDuh
17:36.17ImpyDroidOh
17:36.25ImpyDroidThat explains things
17:36.29XhoPercussive rhythm does, melodies don't
17:37.01ImpyDroidIs it just me or Kicath are like the SporeWiki version of Vogons?
17:37.05ImpyDroidAs in, very dull
17:37.33XhoThat's pretty much it
17:37.43XhoThen again that's the human perception of dull
17:38.02XhoThe Kicath view humans as needlessly complicated in their ceremonies
17:38.20XhoAs well as being small and brittle
17:38.30ImpyDroidHuh, they are the opposite of Radeons in that regard
17:39.00XhoThe Kicath do have visual arts although it's nothing in the way of complexity
17:39.30XhoActually that doesn't make sense
17:39.37XhoTheir visuals are extremely complicated
17:39.39ImpyDroidMonet: I wonder if the old Church of Spode and the old DI interacted
17:40.27MonetMost likely.
17:41.05ImpyDroidI can kind of see the Church and the DI clashing a few times during the Khaxvis era
17:42.12DrodoEmpireXho: Well, I mean IRL militaries marched to music for centuries-- millenia even
17:42.22XhoThat I am aware of
17:42.25XhoKicath aren't humans
17:42.39DrodoEmpireAnd it still happens out of tradition, mostly
17:42.40DrodoEmpireThat's not an argument
17:42.41DrodoEmpire:p
17:42.50Xhosets himself on fire out of protest
17:42.54DrodoEmpireI mean I can see why they may *abandon* it at some point
17:43.11DrodoEmpireBut the principle of using instruments to coordinate troop movements is a universal unless they're telepaths
17:43.14HachimanKicath might not hold music in such significant regard as to associate it with their arms
17:43.21XhoHachi gets it
17:43.31XhoWhy play music when you can conquer space
17:43.39MonetIIRC regimental drummers acted kind of like metronomes didn't they? Performing signals and such for the ranks
17:43.41DrodoEmpireRight, which is why I can see why they may abandon it at the earliest opportunity
17:43.47DrodoEmpireSort of, yes
17:44.00XhoThat being said they may have used music in their ancient societies
17:44.09DrodoEmpireThey set the pacing for a march, and different beats and sounds transmitted different orders from the officer
17:44.11XhoBut that's going back 725,000 years or so
17:44.16DrodoEmpireRight
17:44.45MonetIt could be their military music is quite different.
17:44.49DrodoEmpireWell
17:45.08DrodoEmpireIts also been 725000 years since they probably *had* to use musical instruments
17:45.12XhoIf they do have music in their military it's certainly not for the Kicath
17:45.16MonetImpyDroid: There could have been spodists in the DI for millennia.
17:45.23DrodoEmpireThat's a long time to lose an old tradition
17:45.31DrodoEmpireTo be perfectly fair
17:45.37XhoThe concept of aliens using music to the Kicath is like a toddler banging about on a xylophone
17:46.13XhoThey don't understand why they're doing it nor do they consider it particularly pleasant to hear
17:46.26DrodoEmpireAh
17:46.36ImpyDroidXho: Radeon - kek *plays organ in front of a Kicath*
17:46.42DrodoEmpireayy lmao
17:46.47Xho99% of any musical output from the Kicath is from one of their protectorates
17:48.08HachimanI imagine that Kicath aren't particularly good at composing complex pieces of music given that they have no strong cultural ties to it
17:48.19HachimanProbably one of the things that species like humans do better than them
17:48.22Tek0516Of course that military marching could have just been as minimal as rythmic drumming or such.
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17:48.38ImpyDroidHi
17:48.42OluapPlayer~punch Cyrannian
17:48.43infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose
17:48.47XhoAs for their visual arts, well everything they do looks like computer circuitry
17:48.49DrodoEmpireYeah in ancient times when it was in likelyhood used it would've been very minimalistic I imagine
17:48.52Cyrannian~glomp OluapPlayer
17:48.53infobotACTION becomes fully animated as her eyes squint in an upside-down-U formation, gets a running start and tackle-glomps OluapPlayer
17:48.56DrodoEmpire*likelihood
17:49.01CyrannianHi everyone
17:50.36DrodoEmpireI imagine other species like the humans or Drodo would certainly embellish their marching tunes more, and hold to them for longer- the Koniggratzer marsch comes to mind in that regard
17:51.11Tek0516More complex military music does have the advantage of being usually more inspiring of course.
17:51.25DrodoEmpirePerhaps yeah
17:51.57DrodoEmpireMorale and psychological warfare is really the majority *of* warfare
17:52.40HachimanImpyDroid: dwarf instruments name them nao
17:52.42dino82_hi
17:53.42OluapPlayermining pick, large mining pick, small mining pick, mining pick on a string
17:53.49XhoThat probably implies that psychological warfare doesn't work on the Kicath
17:54.18DrodoEmpireI don't see how that's possible
17:54.39DrodoEmpireIf they have any sense of self-preservation or feelings, psychological warfare would be a thing
17:54.47XhoThey don't
17:54.48DrodoEmpireThey might be a lot hardier emotionally speaking
17:54.49ImpyDroidHachiman: Diggystrrings
17:55.02XhoThe Kicath's only significant feeling is anger
17:55.03Hachimandiggy diggy hole
17:55.11ImpyDroidswing swing swing with me
17:55.16ImpyDroidSwingdrums
17:55.19OluapPlayerBit ridiculous now
17:55.26DrodoEmpireRight...
17:55.40ImpyDroidXho: "WITHOUT A NERVOUS SYSTEM, THE ONLY THING IT CAN FEEL IS ANGER"
17:55.52MonetHow does stress affect them?
17:55.55HachimanYes; that term applies to a fucking sea sponge hur
17:56.10OluapPlayerExcept Dwarf Fortress sponges do, in fact, feel fear and terror
17:56.16ImpyDroidKicath are secretly sea sponges
17:56.17HachimanHuh
17:56.22XhoThis is a culture that can turn from diplomacy to wrathful genocide with a flick of a switch and think the moral backlash to them is senseless whining
17:57.06XhoThey haven't actually done that for at least a thousand years so probably not so much as repressed sentiments of disdain nowadays
17:57.20OluapPlayerYou're not making them easy to collaborate with on the wiki with that
17:57.35DrodoEmpireRight, which makes me wonder how they build a functioning society if they're a race of repressed psychopaths >.<
17:57.45DrodoEmpireI might be misunderstanding, but...
17:57.49ImpyDroidWell admittedly I also own a race of genocidal zealots
17:58.01ImpyDroidBut these are repentant genocidal zealots
17:58.10DrodoEmpirehur
17:58.30ImpyDroidThe more I write about Radeons, the more I realise that they are basically space Germans
17:58.44XhoThey're not really psychopathic towards each other
17:58.47MonetDrodoempire: "Repressed psychopath" sums up the Kicath nicely
17:58.47Tek0516O.o
17:58.54Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Msg/GEC - Anyone know how to fix the unnecessary spaces?
17:58.59DrodoEmpireImpyDroid: SEE KALE
17:59.07DrodoEmpire<.<
17:59.14OluapPlayerAsk Jo
17:59.23XhoAs a species they collectively exceptionalise themselves and measure others accordingly as to how similar they are
17:59.32DrodoEmpireRight
17:59.54DrodoEmpireBut getting back to the point-- how is it that they're unaffected by the extreme emotional strain of war?
18:00.20XhoI don't see how they could be strained if they don't portray emotion in the first place
18:00.24DrodoEmpireI mean, I can see how they aren't affected by it as much and with training the elite among them especially wouldn't be affected very much
18:01.23CyrannianIf they're aliens, anything is possible
18:01.27ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire: A giant badass Holy Empire that then becomes corrupt and fractures -> genocidal maniac takes power and conquers half of the world -> nation left with a species-wide guilt complex -> split into two -> reunites to form a smaller and relatively non-aggressive and still kind of dickish state
18:01.32DrodoEmpireActually here's a good question
18:01.37DrodoEmpireWere Kicath predatory?
18:01.40XhoYes
18:01.42ImpyDroidHoly shit, Radeons ARE German
18:01.48DrodoEmpireRight, that probably has a lot to do with it
18:02.11ImpyDroidOh and they do not like the French
18:02.11DrodoEmpireHumans aren't naturally predatory, so when our survival instincts are tuned more to panic and run as opposed to stand and fight
18:02.21DrodoEmpire*so our
18:02.24XhoWith their general build and fuck-off-esque looks, if they weren't predatorial it would be a disservice
18:02.39DrodoEmpireCyrannian: That's a bit of a handwave, I like to get to the bottom of things personally
18:02.52DrodoEmpireRight, makes sense
18:02.58XhoIt's actually been 175,000 years worth of interspecies communication that has made them adapt better
18:03.05XhoI mean they're still dickheads now but
18:03.09XhoThey're amenable to reason nowadays
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18:03.24Wormy_hi
18:03.25DrodoEmpireIn that case its more that they're a society of apex predators than a society of psychopaths
18:03.26CyrannianHi
18:03.32XhoPretty much
18:03.35DrodoEmpireAh
18:03.39XhoHi wormy
18:03.43DrodoEmpireHey Wormy
18:03.55dino82_Long live the Radeons!!!!!!!
18:06.13Wormy_It might be a while before I can build my Supercarrier.  But I may write about it beforehand.
18:06.23ImpyDroiddino82_ reveals himself to be secretly German
18:06.30DrodoEmpire<.<
18:06.39dino82_@Impy: Lol!
18:06.56dino82_Though I like Germany, is a nice country, nice people and have great October fests
18:07.20dino82_not to mention great food and you have unlimted speed high way there
18:07.31dino82_you can drive 150 km/h without getting a tickets
18:07.37Wormy_Wow
18:07.37dino82_Crazy
18:07.48dino82_that way they always drive so fast in our country............
18:08.19dino82_and great wines as well
18:08.40Xhodino the boozehound
18:08.55ImpyDroidDEUTSCHER WEIN UND DEUTSCHEN SANG
18:09.37XhoWormy_: Did I tell you about that Schnoodlepip Ale I had that one time
18:09.49XhoShnoodlepip even
18:09.55dino82_Lol! But serieus, there october fest is crazy
18:09.59dino82_even for dutch standards of a party
18:10.00dino82_but fun
18:10.39dino82_they just tortured us a few years ago by this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9rxp3F-OJU
18:10.41OluapPlayerMonet: Are you free to work on the war now?
18:10.49dino82_it reached the hitlists
18:10.53Wormy_Xho:  Nope, but it sounds crazy
18:11.01dino82_So a Schnodlpip?
18:11.08Xho"A pink peppercorn saison barrel aged in red wine barrels then blended on top of fresh passionfruit and hibiscus. A yearly release which builds a lot of excitement around the brewery in the run up to brewing and blending."
18:11.15XhoBasically I can't tell whether it tasted like ale or cider
18:11.21XhoBut it was nice and freakishly strong
18:11.37dino82_lol
18:11.40dino82_I recenlty tried honey rum
18:11.44dino82_that was delicious
18:11.48XhoHoney ale is nice
18:11.49dino82_though not too much
18:11.52dino82_:D
18:12.02dino82_oh got to go again
18:12.03dino82_bye bye
18:12.08Cyrannianbai dino!
18:14.46MonetOluapPlayer: I can
18:20.36Wormy_Might order it
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19:18.11HachimanImpyDroid2: I just had this image of a dwarven army facing off against a large horde of Bharloron barbarians and before the battle starts, the Bharloron perform a haka at the dwarves
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19:25.00HachimanImperios: I just had this image of a dwarven army facing off against a large horde of Bharloron barbarians and before the battle starts, the Bharloron perform a haka at the dwarves
19:25.09Imperiosyiy
20:13.10HachimanImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Maka%27Doza Revising an old character I never fully established on due to lack of ideas
20:18.07ImperiosHachiman: Dem derpy eyes
20:18.20HachimanBharloron aren't intended to look too serious hur
20:18.45ImperiosCyrannian Hachiman DrodoEmpire: https://2ch.hk/po/src/19615727/14807879591210.webm It's painful because it is true
20:19.15HachimanOh God what the fuck
20:19.26Hachimanalso dat song
20:19.30DrodoEmpireayy lmao
20:20.53XhoMonet: I'd recommend Planet Coaster btw
20:22.06MonetYeah. I'd like it, but I'm being careful with my money
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20:23.58ImperiosCyrannian_: https://2ch.hk/po/src/19615727/14807945236400.webm The glory of Russian roads
20:25.02cyrabotOpen it in a while, on ye olde mobile
20:25.48XhoHachiman: "What band got you into heavy music?"                              >Green Day
20:25.56XhoTime to unleash the Meshuggah Machine
20:25.59HachimanFucking toppest of keks
20:28.48ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: https://2ch.hk/po/src/19615727/14807907649731.webm
20:29.35OluapPlayerhur
20:30.16HachimanHoly shit that guy hur
20:30.20ImperiosXho: https://2ch.hk/po/src/19615727/14807884179552.webm Russian-Japanese relationships
20:45.40XhoJapan - ???
20:48.59XhoMonet: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/200804344080439609/87E4D04EA8BD31336155CBFE6946EE5388F5136E/
20:49.44MonetPretty park
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20:51.36The_RandomnessHello
20:52.24Wormy_hi
20:52.26DrodoEmpireHey
21:10.24MonetXho: The contrasts between Draconis and Kicath are interesting
21:10.46MonetKicath are supremely abstract or gemonetric, while Draconis are supremely baroque.
21:11.42Xhoindeed
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21:29.00Tek0516Oh s***. War in Heaven is starting in my Stellaris game.
21:29.25The_Randomnessthat sounds ominous
21:29.39Tek0516https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KbfILYE5/20161203162830_1.jpg
21:30.05Tek0516The_Randomness: It's two Fallen Empires waking up and waging all out galactic war. >.>
21:30.16The_Randomnessoh dear
21:30.27The_Randomnessalso, that 97.8k fleet
21:30.32Xhoprepare for deth
21:30.33Tek0516Also as a side note I had just tried to declare preemptive war on one FE. >.>
21:30.51Tek0516Trying to invade this Space Hitler FE.
21:30.58Tek0516*awakened FE
21:31.22Tek0516Which deployed its fleets to the other side of the galaxy. >.>
21:32.20Tek0516The_Randomness: Also, I border *both* FEs and am literally in the middle of them.
21:32.26The_Randomnessoh dear
21:32.59Tek0516Here is me and the two FEs. I'm f***ed if I lose this war. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/uysnJ2Bs/20161203163234_1.jpg
21:33.04MonetNuclear holocaust inbound!
21:33.32DrodoEmpirePrepare for the assblasting of a lifetime
21:33.33DrodoEmpire<.<
21:34.42DrodoEmpireAlso how big of a galaxy are you running this on? I'm just getting back into Stellaris and I'm on 2270 atm
21:34.51DrodoEmpireI'm... Astounded at how much you've got done o.O
21:35.50HachimanI suck at Stellaris so I kinda just stopped playing it hur
21:36.10XhoTo me it looks like a space version of Civ
21:36.20DrodoEmpireNo, not really
21:36.52DrodoEmpireIts a space version of a Paradox Grand Strategy game, which can't *really* be compared to Civ
21:37.14DrodoEmpireIts real-time as opposed to turn-based most importantly
21:37.34Xhohngh
21:37.41XhoA bit too long-winded for me then
21:37.57DrodoEmpireYou can pause at any time and it flows ten times better than turn-based games <.<
21:38.02DrodoEmpireimo anyway
21:38.11XhoCharles_Murray: "No Franco-Kicath alliance exists at present."                                Kitravasuron - i hope that's conjecture
21:38.56Charles_MurrayHm?
21:39.22XhoI was under the impression there was a Franco-Kicathian alliance
21:39.58Charles_MurrayWat
21:39.59Charles_MurrayWhen
21:40.01Charles_MurrayHow
21:40.02Charles_MurrayWho
21:40.27Charles_MurrayHave I been Avalotur'd?
21:40.40XhoYou've confused me now
21:40.45Charles_MurrayDitto
21:41.11XhoOn the UDB there was that statement from France saying there's no alliance between France and the Kicath
21:41.14Charles_MurrayI might have just forgotten, but as far as I know France and the Kicath have never signed a formal treaty of alliance
21:41.18Xhoah
21:41.25XhoHm well they probably should have
21:41.39Charles_MurrayThey have a strong 'entente,' that's definitely true
21:41.39XhoI guess with the Avalotur Covenant that won't happen
21:41.53Charles_MurrayNot yet, at least
21:42.12XhoMan that Covenant really did screw the Kicath over
21:42.16XhoCyrannian: thnx
21:42.41CyrannianI thought you suggested it hur
21:42.47Charles_MurrayThe only things standing in the way of such an alliance are (1) the Covenant and (2) the Kicath's recent moves in Mirus which have upset states in Mirus with whom France absolutely needs good relations
21:43.07XhoI did
21:43.16XhoDoesn't mean I was aware of the consequences
21:43.43XhoThere's a reason why Santorakh is the author avatar
21:44.03MonetIt might have been more on the Empire's part for treating the covenant as a right to believe it was a gigaquadrant space police.
21:44.27ImperiosCyrannian: Wait, since then was the Imperial Senate disbanded
21:44.36Charles_MurrayImperios : Just now
21:44.48XhoCyrannian: The way it's looking for the Kicath, the Covenant is going to have to break under its own pressure
21:47.03Tek0516DrodoEmpire: I got lucky with a big empty space which had both FEs on either end. Noone else got in and I conquered the couple empires that could have entered the region.
21:47.23CyrannianI'm not sure what we both had in mind for it at the beginning anyway
21:47.25Tek0516Oh, and a destroyed ringworld early on that gave me +25 engineering. >.>
21:47.29DrodoEmpireAh
21:47.39DrodoEmpireSo you got pretty lucky
21:47.40Charles_MurrayTek0516 Hnng
21:47.43CyrannianI think it started as a pact between Kithworto and Tyrone
21:47.56CyrannianBut I'm not sure it has a lot of relevance beyond that
21:48.09XhoNot the rest of the Gigaquadrant
21:48.21XhoEveryone dislikes the Kicath now because of Kithworto's antics
21:49.00Charles_MurrayLooks like there's a high cost to maintaining it, but a low cost to breaking it
21:49.46XhoDepends on how the Empire would take if the Kicath wanted to back track on it
21:50.43ImperiosXho: Kithworto - I'm just a poor boy nobody loves me
21:51.07XhoSantorakh - bullshit
21:55.29Wormy__Watching David Attenborough's Planet Earth II.  Seeing Eagles hunting by foot and stalking prey is not really different to raptors in the late Cretaceous
21:55.46Wormy__In the desert, I might add.
21:56.00Wormy__And hunting in packs
21:56.58OluapPlayerCyrannian's desert cousins
21:57.40Tek0516https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNSnJbjdws So I guess this is Cyrannian right now. :P
21:57.53Tek0516...I suddenly feel like rewatching that movie
21:58.05CyrannianTarkin is bae
21:59.51Tek0516Also woo. Less than two weeks to next movie though I'll be in the middle of exams. >.>
22:10.12ImperiosCyrannian: I like how Tarkin orders Vader around
22:10.37ImperiosBack then it was not estabilished how powerful the Emperor was, right?
22:10.56ImperiosAnd Tarkin was intended to be the power behind the throne
22:11.09ImperiosOr at the very least a part of that power
22:12.51CyrannianAye, Sheev was initially controlled by the bureaucrats
22:15.05CyrannianImperios: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvuX1C7UEAEErZf.jpg
22:15.41ImperiosCyrannian: Snoke weed every day
22:20.16ImperiosMonet: Gimme a random Draconis name
22:24.05Tek0516DrodoEmpire The_Randomness: So here I am, fighting an 80k FE fleet. At heavy cost I win, deal heavy damage to their fleet... Then I realize that's not their armada. That's fleet number *three*.
22:24.13The_RandomnessO_o
22:24.23DrodoEmpireO.O
22:24.46DrodoEmpireg e t  a s s b l a s t e d
22:25.02Tek0516All excited about a decisive naval victory, but nope there's another 90k fleet showing up.
22:25.08The_Randomnessrip
22:25.48Tek0516...is this an acceptable time to savescum to before I declared war on them right as the War in Heaven was about to start? >.>
22:26.00Charles_MurrayYEs
22:26.50Tek0516I figured they had one 80k-ish fleet, which at the time was on the other side of the galaxy. >.<
22:28.59Tek0516It was supposed to just be a quick blitzkrieg for a single planet liberation. What is this monstrosity that is the Awakened Empire.
22:30.59Wormy__What is 'Friends we make a long the way"?
22:38.06CyrannianAll the friends made coming up with terrible Snoke theories, that's what turned out to be Snoke, not Darth Plagueis
22:38.24CyrannianXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature_talk:Libertus#Incoming_Transmission_3 - Look what I found
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22:57.48Wormy__". However, we will let you be if you do to us."
23:04.40XhoCyrannian: Angazhar's hippie years
23:05.00XhoMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7wM5yxTJtU
23:11.02ImperiosMonet: come here
23:11.47ImperiosOluapPlayer: Right, where do I have to place my section?
23:12.40OluapPlayerPut it after "Greater Scope Than Before"
23:17.42Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_1#Officer_of_the_Dynasty Alright, first section I did in a while
23:19.00ImperiosI still have a few sections to add until it is complete
23:21.30OluapPlayerfug
23:21.41OluapPlayerI like the succumb and ascend foreshadowing
23:23.23MonetImperios: Hm?
23:23.32ImperiosMonet: Reed too
23:23.37ImperiosIt mentioned the Draconis a few times
23:23.42Imperiosmentions
23:24.43OluapPlayerdidnt even get to the bit where things happen
23:24.50OluapPlayerwriting at the speed of sloth
23:25.05ImperiosB-b-b-ut I take time to explore characters
23:25.29OluapPlayervenoriel is a bitch tho
23:25.35OluapPlayerI like her little yes-woman that being said
23:25.55MonetAs for name, do you want male or female
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23:26.40ImperiosMale
23:26.44ImperiosHi Ink
23:27.04Liquid_InkHello
23:27.21MonetTanus Karenis Vosavion
23:28.05ImperiosRight, changed
23:28.07ImperiosNow reed plz
23:28.38OluapPlayerAlso as a suggestion perhaps we could make the Divinarium and Indoc participations in the war closely linked
23:28.49OluapPlayerTo compensate for all the time they didn't interact
23:28.53ImperiosI imagine they are both very much focused on the Chosen
23:29.06ImperiosHoly shit I just realised
23:29.20OluapPlayerThe Chosen is the arch-enemy of the Indocs in the war so yes
23:29.29OluapPlayerare*
23:30.27ImperiosXho OluapPlayer: You know what is Japanese for North Korea?
23:30.34ImperiosKita-Chosen
23:30.39Imperios>Chosen
23:30.45XhoI was aware
23:31.02OluapPlayerkim jon rodir
23:31.13OluapPlayeror dim, I forget
23:31.41Xhosomething
23:31.52ImperiosOluapPlayer: I imagine Venoriel's arc in the new war storyline will be mostly "find Geltastra and kill her"
23:32.34OluapPlayerGeltastra - >being stalked by a girl with huge knackers           in the new canon i'm okay with this
23:33.31HachimanWhat's this about huge knackers
23:33.34ImperiosXho: Its short name in Korean itself is even better
23:33.36ImperiosPukhan
23:33.45ImperiosPoo Khan
23:33.57XhoYou know you're ragging on your own culture right
23:34.47ImperiosYes
23:34.58ImperiosThough Poo Khan sounds more Indian to me
23:35.29ImperiosHachiman: Venoriel's huge knockers
23:35.36ImperiosAlso reed Venoriel's inner monologue
23:35.44OluapPlayerI can picture Venoriel being rude to Baptarion and insult whatever empire he's serving in until a Dracogonarious official shows up and tells her off
23:35.50MonetImperios: The Divinarium-Draconis conflict of the Andromeda War makes more sense when there have been engagements of such i nthe past
23:36.37ImperiosMonet: Yeah, though we are talking ancient history here
23:36.50ImperiosThe conflict Venoriel mentions happened during the Khaxvis Dynasty, so a while ago
23:38.00MonetRemember Draconis are fond of history.
23:39.13ImperiosTrue that, and so are Radeons
23:39.32ImperiosSpeaking of which, what would be the family emblem of the Khaxvis when they were in power? Same as now except no flames?
23:39.45MonetPretty much.
23:40.41MonetHer monologue certainly weights how boring her post is
23:42.22ImperiosIt is very likely that nobody can stand her so she gets reassigned to posts like that
23:43.01MonetActually it could be a nod at one of the drawbacks ot automation.
23:43.16ImperiosHm?
23:43.30MonetThe drones get to do all the fun exploration.
23:47.36ImperiosThat too
23:48.29MonetSo mining or prospecting in the divinarium involves watching a screen and monitoring numbers all day
23:49.04ImperiosMass Effect 2-style?
23:50.56OluapPlayerVenoriel - here is my loyalty mission                  Vekaron - SKIPPED
23:51.12Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoDxdzth1M Wiki needs a character like Krieger
23:56.59XhoThat does mean aforemetioned character would have a holographic anime girlfriend
23:57.23HachimanHachi
23:57.51DrodoEmpireey laymo
23:58.05XhoWell just without the psychotic doctor side

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