IRC log for #sporewiki on 20161126

00:06.39XhoHachiman_away Technobliterator: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/261116-void-collapse So I got ahold of some sound library
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00:33.50MonetHello
00:34.00MonetImpyDroid: [23:33:15] <Monet> "The resulting scandal ended with the United Republic of Cyrannus publically denouncing the Dei'Ar Theocracy and Agnassana personally slapping the Clericarch in the face" that's a moment I want to see.
00:44.31MonetReading Dwarven grudges is hilarious
00:45.26MonetOne Imperial elector count commissions dwarves to build him a fortress -> Pays with twelve dozen wagonloads of gold.
00:46.00MonetHowever he was two and a half pennies short. The dwarves declared vengeance and razed the fortress to the ground
00:46.26The_Randomnesslol
00:48.16MonetIn another case during the battle of Grimspike Pass an Orc shaman explodes due to Waaagh overload. The pass collapses and kills about 10,000 dwarf warriors
00:48.44MonetThe dwarves declare vengeance on -the pass- for killing 10,000 dwarves
00:49.02MonetAnd have sworn to mine it to obliteration.
00:49.25The_RandomnessI wonder how the pass felt about it
00:51.33MonetActually it's sort of funny that they use alcohol for fuel - it's entirely plausible don't get me wrong
00:52.00MonetIt's just funny to imagine they're that fond of booze that they use a variant as fuel.
00:52.30The_RandomnessWould have to be some pretty strong stuff to be used as any sort of decent fuel
00:52.57MonetIt's not Dwarven beer unless it's stupidly strong.
00:55.19Monetanother fun tidbit
00:57.38MonetOne day after imparting his knowledge of smithing, Alaric "the Mad" decided to gift the elector-counts of the Empire a set of magical swords.
00:57.51MonetPossibly as a thank-you for their hospitality.
00:58.28MonetHe was such a perfectionist that by the time he was done forging all twelve swords, the elector-counts he intended to gift them to were all dead.
00:58.33The_Randomnesslol
01:00.06MonetBut on a more cheery note the sword are still used.
01:00.42MonetEach sword (they're all named) is the badge of office for the (originally) twelve Elector-counts.
01:03.09The_RandomnessMust be some pretty fancy swords I imagine
01:04.21Monethttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/f/f7/Colmillo_R%C3%BAnico-Ralph-Horsley.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150916232258 well here's a picture
01:06.19MonetMuch of their potency comes from ALaric being a runesmith. So likely they're imbued with *incredibly* powerful magic.
01:06.29The_RandomnessAh
01:08.04MonetI can't quite tell what they o specifically but I imagine any wielder becomes an incredibly devastating swordsman.
01:09.11MonetAnd can probably cut even the thickest steel armour like it were wet paper.
01:10.24The_Randomnessoh my
01:12.08MonetThe names of each sword are: Mother's Ruin, Goblin Bane, Legbiter, Crow Feeder, Brai nWOunder, Troll Cleaver, Drago nTooth, Orc Hewer, Stone Reaker, Blood Bringer, Beast Slayer and Grudge Settler.
01:12.20MonetBrain Wounder*
01:14.57MonetOKay another source claims these swords took 100 years in total to craft.
01:15.08The_Randomnesswow
01:29.54Monetgoodnight
01:31.46The_Randomnessgn
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03:05.21The_Randomnesslol
04:32.05Tek0516So I'm now considered "Equivalent" in terms of fleet power against this FE. *stares at the FE's ringworlds greedily*
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04:44.02The_RandomnessHello
04:44.13Tek0516Hello The_Randomness
04:44.27Tek0516Just trying my luck at invading an FE. XD
04:44.56The_Randomness:o
04:45.42Tek0516Equivalent fleet strength, so why not. I have a back-up save. :P
04:50.42NeonPandaI missed an Empire chat
04:51.12NeonPandaThe_Randomness: the Runefangs are so fancy that no armour can protect from them, and even the slightest wound proves telling
04:53.24The_RandomnessI see
04:57.45Tek0516Holy shit I'm winning.
04:58.10The_Randomnesslol
05:00.22Tek0516Retreated in the end but I had gained the upperhand despite a 10k+ advantage for them https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/pUd67JQW/20161125235924_1.jpg
05:00.28Tek0516*They retreated
05:04.53Tek0516Of course they have like 50k of stations in their ringworld. >.>
05:10.16Tek0516Best part of fighting FEs. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/L6pLoW9n/20161126000951_1.jpg
05:10.23The_Randomnesswow
05:22.09Tek0516Approximately 57k of stations in this one system alone. >.>
05:22.33The_Randomnesswow
05:28.40Tek0516I also just finished the "Shrines to the Old Gods" chain. I can get influence, money, society research, or abandon my ethics entirely and become Fanatic Spiritualist/Collectivist. >.>
05:28.58The_RandomnessOh yeah, I remember getting that one once
05:29.21The_RandomnessClearly the last option is the best one :P
05:31.17Tek0516Funny thing is I've already researched the one good Spiritualist tech (psionics chain) even as a materialist. :P
05:48.49Tek0516Alright, time to prepare for the apocalypse with the Jump Drive. :P
05:49.22The_Randomnesslol
05:57.52NeonPandafinally hit Gold rank in duelyst
05:58.02NeonPandagod damn the universe was conspiring against me ;-;
05:58.58The_Randomness*claps*
05:59.14NeonPandaneeded one more win to hit gold, my opponent has over a thousand ranked wins
06:00.46NeonPandafor comparison I got my first 100 win ribbon yesterday
06:00.50The_Randomnessnice
06:01.05The_RandomnessI'm currently practicing being sneaky in Skyrim
06:01.59NeonPandaillusion spells man, illusion spells
06:02.04NeonPandaand sadness that Chameleon doesn't exist anymore
06:02.56The_RandomnessYeah, I should probably pick those up, as they'd likely make my life a little bit easier
06:03.08The_Randomnessbut at my current level of sneak, I can already do some silly stuff
06:03.27The_Randomnessoh wow, I'm at 67 already
06:03.39NeonPandawho needs to sneak when mass frenzy (although I can't remember if there's a good mass frenzy spell in skyrim)
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06:04.10NeonPandamost of my sneaking career in Oblivion was sustained by the fact that my Illusion skill was vastly, vastly higher than my sneak
06:04.29Liquid_InkHey guys you hear Fidel Castro died?
06:04.42The_Randomnessnot until now
06:05.10The_Randomnessalso, that 6x bonus on sneak attacks with daggers
06:05.14The_Randomnessabsolutely disgusting
06:06.50The_Randomnessbasically anything that I can sneak up on dies in 1-3 hits
06:07.28NeonPandagets better when you hit 15
06:07.58The_Randomness15 in which skill?
06:08.00NeonPandabeing invisible constantly plus 15x sneak attack damage, get Mehrunes' Razor for added evil
06:08.08NeonPanda15x sneak damage
06:08.13The_Randomnessholy shit
06:08.25NeonPandathat's what the final perk does, 15x sneak damage with daggers
06:10.27The_Randomnesssince I'm gutting all these pretty strong draugr, my sneak is going through the roof
06:10.32The_Randomnessit's at 71 now (?!)
06:10.51NeonPandaok don't know how you're managing that, even with the stealth stone
06:11.07NeonPandathe level advancement I mean
06:11.15The_Randomnessyeah, this is nutty
06:12.55The_Randomness>draugr deathlord
06:13.01The_Randomness>dies in 4 hits because lol sneak attack
06:13.33NeonPandayeah, if you tried TES sneaking in one of my games, it would end badly for you
06:13.40The_Randomnesslol yeah
06:13.42The_Randomnessthis is absurd
06:13.45NeonPandanamely because my NPCs are smart enough to raise an alarm or something
06:15.44The_Randomnessand they probably have an attention span
06:25.08NeonPandathat too
06:25.16NeonPandaand they don't assume that arrow to the face was just the wind
06:25.58The_Randomnessheh
06:29.26The_RandomnessAnd whenever you shoot an arrow past them, they wouldn't just blindly look to where it landed
06:35.18NeonPandafirst year of the Sengoku Jidai and I've secured alliances with the two other powerhouse clans of central Japan
06:37.30The_Randomness:o
06:39.19NeonPandaalso, when your ninja successfully sabotages an entire hidden ninja village
06:39.31NeonPandashows them right for assassinating my market dude
06:39.37The_Randomnessmy gosh
06:39.40The_Randomnessthat is quite the ninja
06:49.25NeonPandaand I just demolished the Hattori with nothing but peasants and one group of samurai retainers
06:57.00Tek0516Well I've breached one ringworld but my crippled navy still needs to breach this. >.> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qKpUrpNT/20161126015552_1.jpg
06:57.49Tek051664.4k combined fleet power. >.<
06:58.37NeonPandadefensive stations are overrated as long as you have suitable weapons
07:00.19Tek0516I redesigned my fleet since their entire military is basically full anti-shield while being weaker with armour.
07:00.37Tek0516(disruptors and lasers)
07:01.02NeonPandaOda Nobunaga has come of age, time to stick his whiny arse in a backwater province that theoretically has a dozen allied provinces in between it and any attack
07:01.07NeonPandabecause he's not a great general or anything
07:01.20Tek0516O.o
07:02.41NeonPandahopefully the Takeda will deal with the Ikko Ikki and I don't have to look at their heresy anymore
07:07.47NeonPandaspeaking of which, they just did
07:07.52NeonPandaso this campaign just got a lot easier
07:17.33NeonPandanote to self: when looking for images to help solidify an idea of what a character looks like, don't google "leather corset" - while descriptive, mistakes have been made
07:41.26The_RandomnessI'm off for tonight, bye guys
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11:23.25ImperiosMonet Liquid_Ink: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dei%27Ar_Theocracy_Flag.png Made a Dei'Ar flag
11:23.44Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dei%27Ar_Emblem.png And the emblem
11:24.08Liquid_InkVery ocular, and knotted.
11:27.11Liquid_InkThe Radeon's have taken a liking to endless knots?
11:28.35ImperiosIt works as a symbol of eternity
11:29.34Liquid_InkI see
11:31.34ImperiosAlso I take it's pretty obvious how I came up with the flag
11:33.38Liquid_InkIt looks like a mix between the Nazi naval flag and the Confederate jack
11:35.07ImperiosWell actually it was based on the Russian naval jack which is white with a blue X-shape, but the Confederate flag works too
11:35.21ImperiosOr the Scottish flag
11:35.24ImperiosScottish Nazis
11:35.35NeonPandathere's only so many unique flag shapes (not counting individual icons)
11:35.48ImperiosWell yeah
11:35.55Liquid_InkThe Nazi naval flag has some unique line work in the cross
11:35.55NeonPandaso you're going to get some overlap regardless
11:35.58ImperiosThe saltire is pretty common
11:36.21ImperiosScotland, Russian Navy, North Ireland (I believe), Jamaica
11:36.22ImperiosWho else
11:36.28ImperiosChina had it for a while
11:36.54NeonPandadozens of regional administrations
11:37.11ImperiosThem too
11:37.36ImperiosAnd yes the Nazi naval jack was kind of unique
11:38.00ImperiosEven though it was ultimately just a Nordic cross flag
11:42.07ImperiosLiquid_Ink: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Naval_Ensign_of_Ukraine_1997_%28dress%29.svg Though Ukraine apparently copied it
11:42.12ImperiosThis is... strangely appropriate
11:42.29Liquid_InkJust a bit
11:43.06Imperioshttp://tmg110.tripod.com/IMPG/de-we1b.gif WEll it looks like the old Kaiser ensign
11:45.20Liquid_InkI thought it had a balkenkreuz sort of feel to it
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12:21.15HachimanHi
12:21.46HachimanDrodoEmpire Imperios: Thoughts and personal opinions on Castro?
12:22.05ImperiosRest in peace, sweet prince
12:22.40ImperiosCreated a stable and relatively well-off country and improved his people's work ethic
12:36.21HachimanNice
12:36.37HachimanSo Castro wasn't a villain as the US likes to make him out to be?
12:37.11ImperiosWell compare Cuba to North Korea
12:37.32HachimanThat's a fair point
12:43.51ImperiosAlso, you've got to look at the people around him
12:44.50ImperiosBasically in the 20th century Caribbeans, coups and revolutions were funded in countries by the United Fruit Company
12:44.53ImperiosA FUCKING FRUIT COMPANY
12:45.04ImperiosFUNDING REVOLUTIONS
12:45.42ImperiosLiterally ousting rulers from power so that a corporation would have some land to grow fruits on
12:46.04HachimanJesus
12:46.41HachimanI know that Castro put money into Cuba's economy by selling tobacco and such
12:47.35HachimanIt's such a strange idea that tobacco and fruit were so significant in major revolutions
12:55.35ImperiosHachiman: >tfw when I realised the HMKids vocal is basically whispering
13:25.28ImperiosHachiman: "If you cut off the head of a MCU fan, he'll live for a few more minutes until the post-credits scene."
13:35.13HachimanFucking kek
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14:20.02ImperiosOluapPlayer: https://2ch.hk/po/src/19487261/14801699173622.jpg Russian cars
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14:24.11MonetImperios: sorry for not responding earlier was busy with something
14:25.26HachimanCastro was an interesting person, I must say
14:25.29HachimanHi
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14:27.02Wormy_hi
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15:02.49Tek0516O.o The Premier here has a 13% approval rating.
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16:12.54Tek0516I fought a fallen empire in Stellaris last night and entered in a weird sort of pseudo-stalemate. I got lucky and smashed their fleet, but now I'm stuck trying to rebuild my massive fleet so I can breach the 60k of stations guarding their ringworld. >.>
16:18.58HachimanThat sounds rather dramatic
16:25.32Tek0516Hachiman: Actually the most dramatic part so far was that initial battle, where I basically made the remnants of a precursor armada flee behind said massive stations. :P
16:26.31Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/EGNRq
16:31.02Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/RvegD
16:35.33Tek0516Wormy_away: Both of those. Augh.
16:51.01Tek0516https://m.imgur.com/gallery/TclxbeH
16:53.09Wormy_awayMonet VR 3D http://imgur.com/gallery/U4tNEk8
16:54.38Wormy_awayI'm scared http://imgur.com/gallery/93hGJV2
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17:07.13Wormy_Looks like the Doctor Who Christmas special going to have superheroes and secret agents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZVEkic89I
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17:39.35Groxkiller98Hai.
17:39.53OluapPlayerhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3c/Meeting_on_Pax-Paladi.png/revision/latest?cb=20161126173634 zoles on the far left is like "I'm a plane"
17:42.08ImperiosHachiman Monet: I just realised something
17:42.48ImperiosOut of all modern (I mean 2010s or so) cartoons, there are very few ones who were straight-up action-oriented
17:42.52Imperios*are
17:43.38ImperiosOut of original works, outside of Korra and maybe Steven Universe I cannot remember any
17:46.15HachimanOluapPlayer: Zoles looks like he's getting ready for a cowboy showdown or something
17:46.44OluapPlayerPARDNUR
17:46.52HachimanImperios: Non-violence policy for children's shows
17:47.04HachimanOr something like that
17:47.40HachimanCompanies do not want too many action-oriented shows on the air otherwise parents will start thinking that there is too much promotion for violence or whatever
17:48.12ImperiosYeah but stuff like Steven Universe or Gravity Falls aren't exactly kids' stuff either
17:50.15OluapPlayerThis next pic is gonna look cool if I can pull it off
17:50.38HachimanOh?
17:51.04OluapPlayerYou'll see
17:51.54Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni0M3pvxYhk
18:09.02Wormy_The Nanny State has poisoned everything
18:09.51OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ac/The_Brood_Provoked.png/revision/latest?cb=20161126180936 we hardcore now
18:11.43Wormy_awayAre they slaughtering Loron?
18:12.06HachimanOh wow
18:12.10HachimanThat is pretty cool actually
18:12.43OluapPlayerYes, yes they are
18:13.27ImperiosOluapPlayer: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
18:19.10OluapPlayerThat ended up better than I envisioned
18:19.19OluapPlayergotta edge it up
18:24.04ImperiosOluapPlayer: Alvino - NOTHING-- PERSONNEL--
18:24.43OluapPlayer"Loron gets floored by big plant girl who wants to get close and personal"
18:24.55OluapPlayertechnically accurate description
18:27.07ImperiosOluapPlayer: ALVINO PRANK 2016      GONE WRONG     GONE SEXUAL
18:27.28OluapPlayersecond borealis clickbait war
18:28.36Tek0516Wormy_Away: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/games-for-humans
18:30.16Wormy_away"Todays comic is written by a human person"
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18:36.15DrodoEmpireHi
18:40.02OluapPlayerWeird
18:41.38Imperioshttp://ru.infobyip.com/ip-99.255.77.203.html Apparently that guy was Canadcian
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19:19.24MonetHi
19:22.40MonetMissed a lot of today
19:24.59OluapPlayerhi
19:54.22HachimanImperios: I reckon it could be interesting to introduce a character inspired and modelled after Castro in the Fiction/Fantasyverse
19:54.41HachimanKoldenweltian Magic Missile Crisis
19:54.47ImperiosLet's wait until a month or so passes after his death
19:55.03ImperiosRight now it feels a bit disrespectful towards the man
19:55.16HachimanEh, fair
19:55.21The_Randomnesstoo soon
19:55.24The_Randomness:^)
19:58.13ImperiosToo soon
19:58.17ImperiosWe have awakened him too soon
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20:21.05Monet_2Hello
20:27.22The_RandomnessHello
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20:36.08Monet_2evening
20:36.19XhoHi
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20:40.40Xhoack
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20:43.16Jepardi_Hi
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20:47.01XhoTechnobliterator: Is your bot working
20:47.17TechnobliteratorIt is now
20:48.12XhoRight I got two requests
20:50.27XhoTechnobliterator: Added requests on bot page
20:52.46Technobliteratoralright, sweet
20:52.48TechnobliteratorI'll get to them today
20:57.13XhoCharles_Murray: Do you mind if I use that military readiness template for the Kicath
21:00.10Monet_2Xho: I was wondering the other day. I feel like the Kicath and Draconis may share the philosophy the universe must be in balance.
21:00.25XhoHm
21:00.36XhoWell I imagine it's probably a shared sentiment throughout the Gigaquadrant
21:00.51XhoAt least through the Gigaquadrant's big players
21:01.52Monet_2True. I'm thinking the two could have cooperated form time to time on it in the past.
21:03.01XhoIt's probable
21:03.18XhoThe Kicath's goals have aligned with the rest of the Gigaquadrant on multiple occasions
21:03.45Monet_2I'd been thinking the DI's diplomatic corps could have members who offer themselves as advisors for domestic and foreign issues.
21:21.26Charles_BotXho: Not at all
21:22.09Charles_BotIt depends on what you mean by balanced
21:23.15Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kicathian_Republic#Readiness A bit disjointed but welcome to the freakshow
21:23.16Charles_BotThe Gigaquadrantic international system is woefully unbalance right now, though it's based on a system of collective security rather than a balance of power
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21:34.45Tek0516Xho: "Demilitarized" and "Militarization" are an odd combo in there. :P
21:36.48Monet_2That one is basically a linear scale.
21:38.15XhoWell
21:38.33XhoThe Kicath are innately militarised but their current recruitment forces are comparatively demilitarised
21:39.24XhoAlthough their reservist forces are readily active if needed
21:41.03Technobliteratorpiratepad was doing so well
21:41.04Monet_2If they have reservists ready to deploy when needed they're not really demilitarised.
21:41.38OluapPlayerdangit piratepod you're supposed to be better than titanpod
21:41.51XhoHm guess not
21:41.54XhoI'll change it
21:41.54DrodoEmpireEhh
21:42.07DrodoEmpireI'd say they're partly militarised for sure
21:42.08DrodoEmpireBut yeah
21:43.35TechnobliteratorI mean, at least the disconnects don't last as long
21:43.38Technobliteratorand aren't as frequent
21:46.00Monet_2iirc piratepad is still free and advertising-free.
21:46.20Monet_2And it's going to be getting an influx of titanpad users.
21:51.13Technobliteratorcheck new section, yo
21:51.19TechnobliteratorI'm going for a run but it is good
21:51.58OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Second_Borealis_Galactic_War/Part_1#Blyro.27Tralzica
21:52.04OluapPlayersection being spoken of
22:01.18Wormy_awayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinney,_Minnesota#Republic_of_Kinney
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22:36.27Charles_MurrayXho : The general militarization scale represents how close the country is to total mobilization. So under militarization, you've successfully turned every facet of the state, the economy, and the society into a machine whose exclusive purpose is the fighting of a war
22:37.06Charles_MurrayAt militarization, you are ready to mobilize and snap all of the warfighting infrastructures into action at a moment's notice
22:38.05XhoHuh well not too far off
22:38.23Charles_MurrayBeing militarized is very bad for your economy, and historically speaking it requires states to ask of their people great sacrifices and reduces the standard of living of the average citizen
22:38.24XhoI might downgrade it then
22:38.43Charles_MurrayAnd leads to economic problems in the long term
22:40.13XhoWould that even apply to a post-scarcity economy
22:41.18Charles_MurrayThat depends on what you mean by post-scarcity;
22:41.40Charles_Murray(I might need a bit more information as to what you mean)
22:43.18XhoHm
22:43.27XhoSuppose it depends on what economy
22:43.29XhoFair enough
22:43.37XhoYou answered my question without even answering it
22:44.02Charles_Murray^.^
22:44.38XhoI suppose it's all relative, even if the Kicath are outputting exponential amounts of whatever the same amount will be used in a war
22:44.41Wormy_awayThe DCP is always militarised, in fact its pretty much always been involved in some war
22:45.30Monet_2The DCP could have adapted to a war economy, at the cost of quality of life to their citizens.
22:45.36Charles_MurrayUnder DCP-style post-scarcity, the economy exists independently of your population. Population is a burden to be serviced by megastructure production
22:46.39Charles_MurrayUnder French/DI-style capitalism, the population is the economy which grows on its own. The state's role is to facilitate that growth, regulate it, and there is the potential to turn it towards fighting a war if necessary
22:46.46Wormy_awayThe quality of life in the DCP is pretty grand, considering that it is mostly megastructural and has an abundant use of stars, black holes and hypermatter production
22:47.04Wormy_awayand fast FTL transport
22:48.16Wormy_awayWell, comfortable as long as you are in a society that might execute you on any doubts about your compassion and willingness to abide the law
22:49.30Wormy_awayI imaginer the Kicath being somewhat like the DCP society
22:49.36XhoSelectively so
22:49.52XhoThe Kicath can switch their megastructure machine of death mode on with a switch
22:50.06XhoI finished that sentence forgetting how I started it
22:50.14OluapPlayerA+
22:51.06Wormy_awayI was saying to Charles, that the GCSS and Xonexi have inherited the capability of a megastructural mode of industrialisation using the inherited core territories, should they need it
22:58.21OluapPlayerGonna make an UDB post
22:59.42Xhobetter b gud niggo
23:00.48OluapPlayerits bout how much u suk
23:02.02Xhogud enuf
23:02.35Monet_2Hachiman: Listening to the tale of Tuska Daemon-Killa
23:03.02HachimanAh, Tuska
23:03.52Monet_2The Orc warboss who basically marched though fucking Cadia
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23:05.29HachimanAs the 1d4chan page on Tuska puts it, "As it turns out, Tuska was using Prosan as a warm-up for his venture into the Eye of Terror. The Cadian System: one of the most active and heavily defended Imperial systems in the galaxy, was simply practice for Tuska and his Orks. "
23:08.05OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Political_Restructure_of_the_Indoctrinate_Collective some people may recall me talking about this like a year ago
23:08.43Monet_2I love how his first death was after squeezing a Khornite blood prince in the nutsack with a Powa Klaw.
23:09.20HachimanOluapPlayer: Ooh, I don't recall this
23:09.25HachimanThat's a pretty dramatic change
23:09.42Monet_2Why a greater daemon of Khorne has goolies might be a minor issue.
23:09.48OluapPlayerTo be fair I only mentioned it once then never went ahead with it
23:09.57OluapPlayerUntil now
23:11.56Monet_2Democracy bitchaaz!
23:13.02Monet_2So now I'm curious
23:14.08Monet_2What positions are electable aside from the president in the new system
23:15.17OluapPlayerSupreme advisors. Everything under them already worked on a voting system
23:16.01Monet_2I think ten years is an okay term length.
23:16.16Monet_2Shorter terms tend to mean less gets done.
23:17.00OluapPlayerActually just an elaborated way for Maryah to run away from work
23:18.23XhoKrath - Ḽ̢̱̝͍͍A̷͎̝̦̯̤̼Z͉̻Y̜͚̤̹̫̳̞
23:18.42Monet_2She did overwork herself a little
23:19.21HachimanKezoreg - i approve
23:19.28XhoGenetically fashioned into existence to lead her people -> runs away from work
23:19.39Xhodis broke the principle
23:19.46OluapPlayerMaryah - rebel phase
23:19.56Monet_2Isn't she in her 20s?
23:20.17OluapPlayerWell Dracogonarious live like a thousand years
23:20.36HachimanKezoreg is such a bad influence that he causes the entire Collective to have a political reformation and move from a constitutional monarchy to a democratic state
23:20.43HachimanOr is that a good influence
23:20.44OluapPlayerAnd by 2820 she'll be 40 years old
23:21.14Xho[Angazhar sorted of liked this]
23:21.25Monet_2Well I'd love ot see how long the IoM lasts as a democratic republic.
23:21.26OluapPlayerHachiman: Kez probably had very little influence on the decision
23:22.05HachimanOf course, I know that hur
23:22.08Xho[Angazhar sorted of didn't like this]
23:22.14OluapPlayerAnd if it works out, then Maryah's purpose as leading her people to a good future will be fulfilled regardless
23:23.02Monet_2Well one benefit is most of the system is already democratic
23:23.04Xho[Angazhar hates this]
23:24.02OluapPlayerMaryah - angazhar belongs in the trash
23:24.17Xho[there is no such thing as belonging]
23:24.53Monet_2From the patterns we have in history, a democracy is at its most precarious when everyone who lived under the autocracy is still alive
23:25.10Monet_2like the leaders
23:28.00Monet_2Though there might be another good reason for Maryah liftinf responsability
23:28.52Monet_2http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/barack-obama-510f2157-34a3-4eeb-9cee-ee11201adffc.jpg this is what running the world's most powerful nation for 8 years did to Obama.
23:28.55OluapPlayerIn that case they're boned for the next thousand years
23:29.39Monet_2That's Maryah after 100 years of doing everything. Possibly worse.
23:30.02Wormy_awayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board/Archive_11#Tourism_is_now_open
23:30.14Wormy_awayjust remembered doing that
23:30.40OluapPlayer>If you are an Asgord, Kraw, demon, Quinnel, Warzeloski or Wub, or you are affiliated with them, you will be sent away from Muundrum to a more highly protected world.
23:30.43OluapPlayerdats racist against demons
23:34.33Monet_2What year would you say this Indoc transmission happened?
23:35.04XhoOluapPlayer: wow tough crowd
23:35.28OluapPlayerI'm not sure what's the agreed year atm
23:35.49Monet_2So 'present'
23:36.11Monet_2All I needed was whether it was pre- or post-2814
23:36.15OluapPlayerI'd put it at 2816 I think
23:36.53OluapPlayerMy last UDB post at 2815 was too long ago to still be that year
23:38.10Xho2819 according to Tek's calendar
23:38.32OluapPlayerDefinitely earlier than that
23:38.35OluapPlayerSo yeah, 2816
23:38.51Monet_2It might be easier these days to not be so strict with the present year
23:39.06XhoI don't think anyone's been strict with it since the Schism
23:39.26Monet_2None of us have time to keep up with the 1 day = 1 week timeline.
23:39.30Monet_2anymore
23:40.28OluapPlayerStill serves as a good point of reference
23:40.56XhoSo right now it's anywhere between 2811 - 2816
23:41.02XhoMy fiction is currently around 2816
23:41.05Xhoif i had any
23:41.22Wormy_away2815
23:44.38XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pbKB2TL3Jk
23:45.11HachimanI've no headphones and my PC stereo is buggered so I can't watch ;-;
23:52.36Wormy_awaycould not deal with that

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