00:01.08 | DrodoEmpire | Nah its a good system |
00:01.14 | tcm | i have a page that goes "there's a whole lot of other complicated administration that goes down on the planetary level but that's not really important" |
00:01.47 | tcm | you can just handwave it |
00:01.50 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose there might be some stuff or complications when it comes to the cities but I'm not sure how that worked either to be honest |
00:02.00 | DrodoEmpire | Well, no, its better to be as detailed as possible |
00:02.15 | DrodoEmpire | Literally saying "meh" on the page is awful form >.< |
00:02.21 | DrodoEmpire | You can sideline it a little sure |
00:02.53 | Monet | It can sounds like the author is being lazy or dismissive. |
00:02.53 | DrodoEmpire | Which might be best in this case, unless I come up with some bright idea about taxing a medieval city :p |
00:03.04 | DrodoEmpire | Or hachi does, or whoever |
00:05.03 | Wormy_ | Games as Japanese Ukiyo-e http://imgur.com/gallery/GTAOE |
00:05.24 | Hachiman | Oh sweet |
00:05.51 | Hachiman | Samus looks particularly awesome |
00:06.24 | Hachiman | Fucking Kirby looks horrifying though |
00:06.44 | Monet | Mario Kart looks hilarious |
00:06.52 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:06.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's all pretty cool |
00:07.40 | Monet | THat Koopa *really* wants to win |
00:13.20 | tcm | any way to adjust margins within a tabber |
00:13.51 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure |
00:13.57 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator ? |
00:14.45 | Technobliterator | Yes, but you really shouldn't be using tabbers |
00:15.14 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kingdom_of_Barangin#Military - A few final things |
00:15.16 | Technobliterator | They should be avoided since they're not great design |
00:15.27 | Technobliterator | But to do it, wrap them in a div |
00:15.34 | DrodoEmpire | Finished off the Lial and gave a short blurb for the allied armies |
00:17.06 | tcm | i'm trying to make something look like an informational pamphlet |
00:17.18 | tcm | is there a better way to do it other than a tabber |
00:18.45 | Technobliterator | Quite possibly |
00:19.03 | Technobliterator | Anything you can do with HTML and CSS, you can do on wikitext |
00:19.19 | Technobliterator | If you want to design pages, you should probably study up on those |
00:20.06 | Wormy_ | I use a moe advanced kind of tabber on this page http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADelpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology |
00:20.41 | tcm | oh, this looks useful |
00:21.00 | Technobliterator | tabview is probably better than tabber |
00:21.08 | Wormy_ | <div id="content_database"> <tabview> </tabview> </div> |
00:21.13 | Technobliterator | Less JS reliant |
00:21.25 | Wormy_ | Like Jo says you can probably add more design in to the div |
00:21.45 | Wormy_ | Also too many tabbers look awful |
00:21.49 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | "Playing the entire Bee Movie script on Audiosurf" |
00:22.03 | DrodoEmpire | why |
00:23.53 | Wormy_ | Maybe try W3Schools to get the conceptual model, then look at Wikipedia's pages (Wikipedia explains things much better and at greater length than Wikia do) |
00:24.06 | Wormy_ | Wikipedia's pages on wiki markup |
00:25.09 | Technobliterator | W3schools is a lot better than it used to be |
00:26.46 | DrodoEmpire | Thoughts on the Barangin page? |
00:28.04 | tcm | i'd say it needs more pictures, but i say that about everything |
00:28.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, common issue with my fictions |
00:28.43 | tcm | maybe some examples of what the allied forces can bring to bear? |
00:28.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, perhaps |
00:29.26 | DrodoEmpire | I considered adding a blurb which basically said that their rosters, while diverse, basically mirror what the Lial regiments bring |
00:30.01 | DrodoEmpire | That is, lots of arquebusiers, halberdiers, crossbowmen, and other, usually levied, soldiers |
00:34.19 | Wormy_ | bye] |
00:40.33 | DrodoEmpire | test |
00:48.40 | Hachiman | Hm I need some name for the dwarven equivalent of the Inquisition |
00:49.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
00:50.08 | tcm | truth-sounders |
00:50.36 | Hachiman | Ooh I kinda like that |
00:50.44 | Hachiman | Truthsounder Guild / Guild of Truthsounders? |
00:51.11 | Hachiman | Or some other word to replace 'guild' |
00:59.12 | DrodoEmpire | Oh that Motive page is looking really nice tcm |
01:03.59 | DrodoEmpire | Seems like a collectivist society obsessed with efficiency and, well, Progress |
01:04.32 | DrodoEmpire | The fact it seems devoid of culture and tradition would be abhorrent to the average Drodo I figure |
01:20.15 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Nice work on your Barangin page thus far |
01:20.22 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks |
01:20.27 | DrodoEmpire | I'll do culture ext |
01:20.29 | DrodoEmpire | *next |
01:20.43 | Hachiman | Gonna be honest, didn't expect the Barangin to be so large and influential at first |
01:21.09 | Hachiman | Them and their Lial and allied armies |
01:21.30 | DrodoEmpire | They basically represent the Swedish Empire at its height |
01:21.48 | DrodoEmpire | A big, recent, northern superpower of questionable sustainability |
01:22.38 | DrodoEmpire | So, yeah, large and influential but for how long? |
01:38.22 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: What would be a more appropriate replacement for "disliked" for a nation? Like, a state that isn't immediately at war with the nation, but still in opposition or contension |
01:38.35 | Hachiman | "Dislike" as a term sounds more appropriate for a character |
01:38.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
01:38.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'd say rivalry, perhaps |
01:38.51 | Hachiman | Right |
01:40.46 | Charles_Murray | test |
01:43.55 | DrodoEmpire | tset |
02:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | test |
02:51.42 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Khargrim_Greatholds Well, I've got something of an incomplete skeleton down; I'll have to ask Imp and such about imagery and quotes and whatnot tomorrow or something |
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09:58.41 | NeonPanda_ | alrighty the imposter should disappear before long |
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10:27.24 | Hachiman | Hi |
10:29.15 | Ghelae | Hi |
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10:38.07 | ImpyDroid | Hiya |
10:40.30 | Ghelae | Hi |
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13:59.54 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Khargrim_Greatholds I've started a thing |
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14:21.10 | Hachiman | Hi |
14:22.00 | Monet | hi |
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14:30.07 | Hachiman | Monet Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Khargrim_Greatholds I've started a thing |
14:40.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: *Dorf intensifies* |
14:40.49 | Hachiman | I was wondering if you could make graphic stuff for them at some point Imp |
14:41.11 | Hachiman | Like, flag and coat once I fill more info in and stuff; just 'basic' stuff I suppose for you :p |
14:41.27 | Hachiman | brb |
14:52.49 | Imperios | I think we even discussed it |
14:53.43 | Imperios | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a7/NotJediEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20161122145308 OluapPlayer: Can you link that to Cyr once he comes in? |
14:53.57 | OluapPlayer | Right |
14:59.48 | Hachiman | Imperios: Discussed it? |
15:00.07 | Imperios | Yeah I remember asking what kind of shield world work for Khargrim arms |
15:00.13 | Imperios | And what kind of symbolism could it have |
15:02.05 | Hachiman | Ah right yes |
15:02.16 | Hachiman | Hm I'm still not sure hur |
15:02.31 | Hachiman | What kind of shield do you feel would suit the Khargrim? |
15:02.49 | Imperios | Well what kind of shields do dwarves use? |
15:03.06 | Hachiman | What kind of shield do you think Khargrim would use? |
15:04.00 | Imperios | I dunno lol |
15:04.13 | Imperios | You're more of a weapon specialist I think |
15:04.32 | Hachiman | A weapon specialist yes |
15:04.36 | Hachiman | A shield specialist, no :p |
15:05.35 | Imperios | MY FACE IS MY SHIELD |
15:05.47 | Imperios | Hell that is a good idea, some kind of face on the escutcheon |
15:05.47 | Hachiman | They probably use round shields |
15:05.51 | Hachiman | Aye |
15:06.15 | Hachiman | Like WHFB dwarves; they have dwarf faces on their shield hur |
15:07.40 | Hachiman | Also, what would "Honoured Greatholds of the Undivided Southern Dwarfclans" be in Old Tongue? |
15:08.03 | Imperios | Ooooh |
15:09.22 | Imperios | Honorata Magna Castra something something |
15:09.39 | Imperios | I am actually going to try to translate that without dictionaries, gotta practice my latin |
15:09.54 | Hachiman | Nice |
15:12.22 | Imperios | Castra honorata magnaque tribuum nanorum indivisorum australiumque |
15:12.31 | Hachiman | Jesus |
15:12.45 | Hachiman | And what part of that is 'dwarf' hur |
15:13.02 | Imperios | nanorum |
15:13.04 | Imperios | https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanus_(mythologia) apparently |
15:13.24 | Hachiman | Huh |
15:13.36 | Imperios | Actually "que" can be omitted |
15:13.37 | Imperios | Castra honorata magna tribuum Nanorum indivisorum australium |
15:14.38 | Hachiman | Alright, thanks |
15:14.56 | Hachiman | Also if you're gonna make a coat / flag, it could also contain maybe an axe / axes alongside a shield? |
15:15.03 | Imperios | Hm |
15:15.53 | Imperios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Bras%C3%A3o_CBMDF.svg Like here for example? |
15:16.18 | Hachiman | Yeah |
15:16.54 | Hachiman | brb |
15:16.58 | Imperios | |Actually about the shield one could use something unique but there are also several traditional shield types in heraldry |
15:17.11 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Formes_des_Blasons_Ecus_Coats_of_Arms.svg |
15:25.05 | Hachiman | Hm |
15:25.21 | Hachiman | 10 seems most befitting |
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15:26.13 | The_Randomness | Hello |
15:26.17 | Hachiman | Hi Randum |
15:26.27 | Hachiman | gimme ur character backstory now pls |
15:26.33 | Hachiman | Oh and a link to your sheet |
15:27.33 | The_Randomness | I'll get that to you as soon as I can, just need to deal with the last of this work for my classes today and tomorrow |
15:28.11 | The_Randomness | I'm sorry to have kept you waiting for this long, but I probably couldn't have done much about it |
15:28.26 | Hachiman | All good |
15:30.34 | The_Randomness | Fortunately it shouldn't take me very long to finish my character sheet, just need to write up my backstory, put equipment on there, and fix a few things |
15:31.50 | Imperios | Hachiman: That's the Polish shield |
15:31.52 | Imperios | Dorfs STRONK |
15:31.56 | Hachiman | hur |
15:32.23 | Hachiman | I mean, dwarves love hoarding gold and screwing people over to get rich, so |
15:32.44 | Imperios | Le happy dwarf? |
15:33.15 | Hachiman | ayy |
15:54.30 | OluapPlayer | Monet: I made some more stuff to my garrison, I like it how your favorite mounts show up in the stables |
15:54.50 | OluapPlayer | And your pets in their own little corner |
15:55.58 | Monet | That's pretty cool |
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16:16.56 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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16:23.00 | tcm | hi |
16:32.23 | Hachiman | For fuck's sake |
16:32.33 | Hachiman | I tripped over my headset wire and tore the fucking thing apart |
16:32.58 | Hachiman | Now I need to fork out money for a new one and I can't watch or listen to anything because my fucking stereo doesn't work for some reason |
16:33.49 | The_Randomness | rip |
16:35.25 | tcm | rip |
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16:51.16 | Treebeard | Hello |
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17:10.04 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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17:36.43 | dino82_ | hi |
17:37.05 | Xho | egd |
17:38.13 | Treebeard | Hello |
17:54.48 | tcm | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:The_Collective_Mind/Motive is this worth expanding on |
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17:59.21 | Hachiman | Well, can't get stereo to work rip |
17:59.58 | Hachiman | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Khargrim_Greatholds dorf stoof |
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18:03.54 | Jepardi | Hi |
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18:04.41 | tcm | hi |
18:07.28 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1479827982-20161122.png |
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18:10.17 | Wormydroid | Hi |
18:10.42 | tcm | hi |
18:11.06 | Ghelae | Hi |
18:11.41 | Ghelae | tcm: It looks pretty complete to me. Not that I'm an expert on first-contact propaganda pamphlets. |
18:12.23 | Wormydroid | Yeah right |
18:14.06 | Wormydroid | Thats one of a evil cheese making AI's many specialities |
18:14.13 | Wormydroid | An |
18:15.36 | Ghelae | "And that is Progress means" seems to be missing a word after "is". |
18:16.29 | Wormydroid | My chocolate calendar has been confirmed. Never too old for chcolate calendar |
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18:18.31 | tcm | ah, missed that |
18:33.38 | Xho | Hachiman: derfs |
18:42.24 | Wormydroid | I had a nose bleed earlier and traces of blood is all I can smell, ugh |
18:42.44 | Wormydroid | Sickening |
18:44.35 | Hachiman | I'm not too averse to the taste or smell of blood |
18:44.46 | Hachiman | My own, that is |
18:45.29 | Wormydroid | Well, its ALL I can smell, mixed with mucus |
18:45.45 | Hachiman | Okay that's bad |
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18:46.10 | Wormydroid | I also coughed up a little blood |
18:46.50 | Wormydroid | Had a night of terrible coughs and sneezing however so I think its damage from that |
18:48.26 | Imperios | Cyrannian|Busy: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a7/NotJediEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20161122145308 |
18:50.16 | Wormydroid | I also had a dream of being followed into my bedroom, and upon waking a voice said out loud "You alright Pal?" to which I replied "Ey up" |
18:50.34 | Hachiman | olol |
18:50.56 | Wormydroid | So I might be in a bad way :/ |
18:51.22 | Xho | Go to the damn doctors |
18:52.08 | Imperios | Wormydroid: Take a look, does that look Jedi-ish? |
18:52.33 | Wormydroid | It'd take a lot to send me there |
18:52.59 | Wormydroid | Yes, I say it does |
18:56.02 | Cyrannian|Busy | Awesome work Imperios, I really like it |
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18:59.27 | Wormydroid_ | Hachiman, Cyrannian|Busy thought this was funny https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38067552?client=ms-android-sonymobile |
19:00.39 | Wormydroid_ | The Antiguan PM tried to get him to dance with a woman |
19:01.40 | Wormydroid_ | And told him What happens in Barbuda stays in Barbuda before dancing himself |
19:02.32 | Cyrannian|Busy | Harry should have unhinged his jaw and swallowed him whole |
19:02.45 | Wormydroid_ | Lol |
19:03.06 | Imperios | Wormydroid: I actually took the swirly bits below the star from the symbol of the capital of Kazakhstan |
19:04.12 | Wormydroid_ | Kazakhooine |
19:04.54 | Imperios | Is good |
19:30.23 | Cyrannian|Busy | OluapPlayer_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Thanta - They dvottied before the dvottie |
19:30.50 | OluapPlayer_ | There they are |
19:30.54 | OluapPlayer_ | I thought you had deleted that page |
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19:31.59 | Tek0516 | Shit. My cool Game of Thrones poster fell pff the wall and ripped. |
19:32.14 | Cyrannian|Busy | We were discussing the early years of the fiction and our earliest contributions and I discovered it. Ghelae pointed these guys out: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Fowlmimus_insolitus |
19:33.00 | Wormydroid | Mine were hardly contributions |
19:33.09 | OluapPlayer_ | That model looks rather recent |
19:33.42 | Cyrannian|Busy | hur that's a reuploaded version of this: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0e/Fowlmimus.png/revision/20111005184623 |
19:34.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Still you updated them recently |
19:35.01 | Cyrannian|Busy | 2011 |
19:35.42 | OluapPlayer_ | dat not recent |
19:36.58 | Cyrannian|Busy | Your earliest contributions are pretty decent in comparison |
19:41.24 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Raveeah My first creature apparently |
19:41.30 | Imperios | Barring the Illidans |
19:44.16 | OluapPlayer_ | It's a chibi Tertamian |
19:45.21 | OluapPlayer_ | they were not prepared for the future ahead of them |
19:45.23 | Imperios | It's supposed to be the Tertamian equivalent of a monkey |
19:46.34 | Imperios | I just realised |
19:47.09 | Imperios | Since they are descended from horse-like animals and likely lived in grassland areas |
19:47.17 | Imperios | Tertamians/Tertanai ought to have excellent eyesight |
19:49.20 | Hachiman | So |
19:49.32 | Hachiman | Mongolian-esque Tertamian / Tertanai archers? |
19:49.49 | Imperios | Can be |
19:50.06 | Imperios | I imagine they had a lot of archers |
19:51.35 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xhodocto?oldid=153823 awww shit nigga |
19:52.53 | Imperios | >The Xhodocto have been said to have an empire of some 10,000 Solar Systems. |
19:52.58 | Imperios | Kek |
19:53.37 | Xho | Heck in those days that was huge |
19:53.57 | Cyrannian|Busy | Aye, I remember when I was proud of having 75 or something like that |
19:55.19 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Illidan I still need to find a way to use these black and green Illidans |
19:56.08 | Imperios | > They ordered Tertamians to pay inadequate sums of tribute. |
19:56.15 | Imperios | >inadequate sums of tribute |
19:56.19 | Imperios | >inadequate |
19:56.32 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't know what to contribute to the old time discussion that I've not already mentioned before |
19:56.44 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Like you're father time kek |
19:56.54 | OluapPlayer_ | ??? |
19:57.07 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://maxis.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:99cmoney/The_%22Incident%22_on_SporeWiki - Ngh, take a look at all the cringe from our 2010-selves |
19:57.07 | Imperios | Father Time, like Mother Nature, but for time |
19:57.47 | OluapPlayer_ | 99 dosh |
19:57.53 | Imperios | Cyrannian|Busy: Why does the old you sound like you're French |
19:58.05 | OluapPlayer_ | And yes that is quite cringy |
19:58.09 | Imperios | "Also, I am not following this blog anymore. So consider the argument over. Adieu". |
19:58.30 | Cyrannian|Busy | I was a lil bitch |
19:58.32 | Xho | Heck I haven't changed much in 6 years |
19:58.35 | Xho | I just got smarter |
19:58.37 | OluapPlayer_ | u still r u kno |
19:58.56 | Imperios | Old Xho was Angazhar |
19:59.01 | Imperios | New Xho is Draguros |
19:59.25 | Xho | Next Xho is |
19:59.26 | Xho | hm |
19:59.28 | Xho | Santorakh I guess |
19:59.30 | OluapPlayer_ | ded |
19:59.33 | Xho | Or ded |
19:59.46 | Xho | Depends how active I'll be through uni |
20:00.00 | Cyrannian|Busy | I don't even remember what that user did |
20:00.22 | Xho | I vaguely remember the name |
20:00.37 | Imperios | I like the point in my life when I learned to form coherent sentences in English but had not yet mastered style or acquired an adequate vocabulary for writing |
20:00.40 | Wormydroid | I remember how you scared 99c ofg by saying you would call the Internet police |
20:00.47 | Imperios | This Illidan page seems to be from this period |
20:00.49 | Imperios | "millions were killed just for being friends of the Grox" |
20:01.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Back when fiction was actually Spore-inspired |
20:01.41 | Imperios | The actual story was very dramatic but how I fucking worded it |
20:01.43 | Wormydroid | I don't remember what he did either, except that he made sockpuppets includibg one named after me |
20:01.44 | Imperios | >for being friends of the Grox |
20:02.20 | OluapPlayer_ | Game-wise that's more or less the standard |
20:02.27 | Wormydroid | Thats still how the Hogomoth dief |
20:02.34 | Imperios | Yeah but "friends", not "allies" or something |
20:02.37 | Imperios | Friends |
20:02.53 | Imperios | "You fucking played hopscotch together, you deserve to die" |
20:02.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Grox - :3 Illidan - <3 Everyone else - </3 |
20:03.31 | Imperios | Illidan - BETRAYER IN TRUTH IT WAS US WHO WERE BETRAYED |
20:03.36 | Wormydroid | The DCP didn't take being friends with the Gric lightly |
20:03.37 | Hachiman | Illidan should use Grox technology to fight the Grox |
20:03.44 | Wormydroid | Grox |
20:03.52 | Xho | ah yes the gric |
20:04.00 | Xho | I still don't like the Grox |
20:04.06 | OluapPlayer_ | 2bad |
20:04.23 | Wormydroid | Grox don't like you |
20:04.28 | Xho | grox are ded |
20:04.36 | OluapPlayer_ | i like muh grox |
20:04.38 | Wormydroid | But thats not saying much |
20:04.43 | Xho | All of a sudden Krath revives the Grox because why they fuck not |
20:04.45 | Cyrannian|Busy | I like the Grox so much I made my own Grox except it turned out they weren't actually Grox |
20:04.48 | Xho | the |
20:05.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Grox aren't dead, they're just pacified |
20:05.18 | Imperios | My Grox turned out to be the ONLY Grox who were actually loyal |
20:05.27 | Wormydroid | I might bring back a Borg Grox hybrid, the Grob |
20:05.33 | Imperios | Meanwhile every other Grox empire in the Gig turned traitor |
20:05.39 | OluapPlayer_ | I can't think of anyone to use for a Skull of Gul'dan joke |
20:05.43 | OluapPlayer_ | ashamed of meself |
20:06.00 | Imperios | Skull of the Grox? |
20:06.12 | Hachiman | That reminds me, I thought about a Gul'dan-like character once for the Fantasyverse |
20:06.16 | OluapPlayer_ | In the Borealis Grox's defense, they didn't do it out of their own volition |
20:06.26 | Xho | How about we have SantoGrox and have half-cheese half-imp abominations |
20:06.36 | OluapPlayer_ | How bout u eet sand |
20:06.37 | Hachiman | I think I remember telling you Oluap; a younger half-orc mage who served as one of Tibias' right hands |
20:07.05 | Hachiman | Or was it full orc |
20:07.08 | Hachiman | Might have been full orc |
20:07.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Full |
20:07.37 | Imperios | And speaking of Gul'dan |
20:07.38 | OluapPlayer_ | One of the orc kids kidnapped by him during Goldhawks, grown up |
20:07.47 | Imperios | Turns out it is a Tatar/Russian name |
20:07.50 | Hachiman | I say Gul'dan-like, my knowledge of Gul'dan is kinda sparing |
20:08.12 | Hachiman | At least, Gul'dan post-WC3 |
20:08.22 | Imperios | Tatar/Kazakh even |
20:08.27 | Xho | U FACE TIBIAS BONY LORD OF THE BONY LEGION |
20:08.31 | Imperios | https://vk.com/guldanalyk Behold |
20:08.39 | OluapPlayer_ | To put it short, a Gul'dan like character wouldn't serve the herald of a demon god. He'd be the herald himseçf |
20:08.56 | OluapPlayer_ | himself* |
20:08.59 | Hachiman | Right makes sense |
20:09.09 | Imperios | There are several characterisations of Gul'dan |
20:09.10 | Hachiman | Imperios: Her name has 'anal' in it |
20:09.22 | Imperios | Gul'dana Analyk |
20:09.26 | Imperios | Anal [Gul'dan] |
20:09.28 | Hachiman | Gold Anal |
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20:09.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Gul'dan's biggest trait is being obnoxiously power-hungry |
20:09.36 | dino82_ | hi |
20:09.40 | Imperios | Oh wait no |
20:09.46 | Imperios | She is "Guldana Ahmet" |
20:10.12 | Imperios | Gul'dan the Dead Warlock |
20:10.26 | Cyrannian|Busy | Hai Dino |
20:10.28 | Imperios | https://vk.com/id182616977 More Gul'dans |
20:10.46 | dino82_ | Hi! |
20:10.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Imperios: I finished the Spires of Arak yesterday |
20:10.55 | Hachiman | Imperios: Is Zhen really ova? |
20:10.56 | dino82_ | Gul'Dan is a powerful one |
20:11.10 | OluapPlayer_ | It was a nice area, mostly because it was arakkoa-centered |
20:11.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: It is ova |
20:11.16 | OluapPlayer_ | And I like them |
20:11.35 | Hachiman | birb braisn |
20:11.36 | Imperios | https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voppsy.ru%2Fauthors%2FGUL6DAVV.htm&edit-text=&act=url&authuser=0 There's also this article, pity there isn't more info about this guy |
20:11.36 | Hachiman | brains |
20:11.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Very sad birb brains |
20:11.51 | Imperios | "Gul'dan V.V., Doctor of Psychology, head of the department of social and psychological problems of addiction" |
20:11.55 | OluapPlayer_ | Playable arakkoa when |
20:11.56 | Imperios | >Gul'dan |
20:12.01 | Imperios | >problems of addiction |
20:12.09 | OluapPlayer_ | This is your brain on fel magic |
20:12.28 | Hachiman | Aren't Arakkoa evil deformed mages? |
20:12.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Deformed yes. Evil, just some of them |
20:12.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: There are deformed and undeformed birbs |
20:13.00 | Imperios | Deformed are mostly evil |
20:13.04 | Imperios | actually wait no |
20:13.10 | Imperios | Deformed are 50/50 good and evil |
20:13.15 | Imperios | Undeformed are mostly evil |
20:13.20 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah |
20:13.28 | Imperios | Deformation is a form of punishment in their society |
20:13.45 | OluapPlayer_ | They were deformed when one of their gods killed the other, and the "pure" ones decided to shun them away instead of being of any help |
20:14.07 | Xho | rekt |
20:14.29 | OluapPlayer_ | So we beat the beak out of the pure arakkoa during the Spires of Arak storyline |
20:14.31 | OluapPlayer_ | they had it coming |
20:14.50 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: There's actually a short story about the arakkoa that shows Skyreach's society more. It turns out they are not told the full truth about the curse, and are taught that the deformations in arakkoa are caused by heretical thoughts |
20:15.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Hm |
20:15.09 | OluapPlayer_ | It'd be useful to have that info in-game |
20:15.17 | Imperios | They're all "burn the heretics" too |
20:15.21 | Imperios | Imperium of Birb |
20:15.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Also, those bits when you get to play as Terokk |
20:16.00 | OluapPlayer_ | I was really disappointed that you lose to Kargath |
20:16.01 | Imperios | There are several short stories about minor WoD races |
20:16.54 | Imperios | http://eu.battle.net/wow/ru/game/lore/savage-world/apocrypha/page-1 there we go |
20:17.18 | Imperios | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/savage-world/apocrypha/page-1 Oh wait no this one |
20:17.23 | OluapPlayer_ | i cant reed vodka tongue |
20:17.24 | Cyrannian|Busy | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ald%C3%A1rae_Order - Does anyone want to create a character for this? |
20:17.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh that's long |
20:17.37 | Monet | I think it demonstrates how deadly a warrior Kargeth Bladefist is. |
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20:18.16 | OluapPlayer_ | I've killed him at least 10 times at Outland already, I'd have used the opportunity to show off Terokk being a badass |
20:18.28 | OluapPlayer_ | get your filthy orcs off my spires |
20:18.33 | Imperios | "The elders had taught him that the curse was the result of falling from Rukhmar's graceâthe result of disobedience, among other things. It was something brought about by one's own weakness, not by an outside force." |
20:19.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Well that ain't good |
20:19.41 | OluapPlayer_ | I still would play the deformed arakkoa given the chance |
20:19.57 | Monet | I would have thought carving though legions of Saberon, killing one of their chieftains and being one of the few to withstand the curse is badass enough. |
20:20.34 | OluapPlayer_ | He didn't withstand the curse, he got deformed like all the others |
20:20.45 | OluapPlayer_ | He was just the first to get up |
20:21.06 | Imperios | " They were trained to watch for symptoms of the curse: lethargy, tardiness, questioning the orders of elders. Those were the first warning signs that the affliction was present, ideas ingrained in all arakkoa from the moment they hatched." |
20:21.43 | Imperios | They equated disobedience with sin essentially |
20:21.50 | Monet | Being one of the first to get up still takes a lot of will. |
20:21.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Killing one of the orc warlords would've solidified arakkoa dominance over the region |
20:22.17 | OluapPlayer_ | And considering how little I care for the Iron Horde, I'd have much preferred that |
20:22.26 | Imperios | The Iron Horde sucks yeah |
20:22.26 | dino82_ | @Cyrannian: I have JAnice Ross for the Order! |
20:22.45 | Imperios | I'd say as a force it is boring but it is visually impressing |
20:22.51 | Imperios | All the metal and industry |
20:22.53 | dino82_ | @/oluap: Yrel is a cool character if the Horde Storyline |
20:23.01 | OluapPlayer_ | It may look pretty but they're essentially filler |
20:23.14 | Imperios | Also, I believe they were the only main WoW antagonist to be morally grey |
20:23.46 | Imperios | They were provided with heroic backstories in Lords of War, and a somewhat sympathetic background |
20:23.55 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/CdFPl |
20:23.58 | Wormy_ | This game |
20:24.02 | Imperios | "Everyone tried to enslave them so they began enslaving people back" |
20:24.11 | Wormy_ | Getting B1 and ED for Xmas me thinks |
20:24.17 | Imperios | BTW did you watch the Lords of War |
20:24.27 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't know what that is |
20:24.36 | OluapPlayer_ | My knowledge of them is restricted to the game where they're 100% black |
20:24.53 | Imperios | Basically every expansion since Pandaria has a small animation series associated with it |
20:25.15 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeGnYJJxeYI MoP had this |
20:25.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Even if they're not, they're still ultimately filler, their participation in the overall negative is negligible and the true threat in WoD is Gul'dan, not them |
20:25.50 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG3RVCEwCPg&list=PLY0KbDiiFYeP8hkPrVS3y0Ua45EJlWRBw That's Lord of War |
20:26.24 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCI838NQOvY That's for Legion |
20:27.18 | Monet | I think their motive sort of worked. Back in the original timeline Gul'dan build up the SHadow Council discreetly. |
20:28.05 | Monet | The Iron Horde were the very distraction Gul'dan needed to solidify his control over the Orcs after the fist rejection of the blood of Mannaroth. |
20:29.47 | Imperios | So with the Iron Horde already loose he had no need to hide his motives |
20:30.21 | Imperios | That explains why he eventually takes power himself rather than becoming the force behind the throne like in the original timeline |
20:30.42 | Monet | Consider a lot of the orcs would have been suspicious after the debacle that Garrosh intervened with. |
20:32.59 | Monet | It took Grommash's reputation to be destroyed for Gul'dan's takeover to be even possible - Kilrogg changed sides because he saw Grommash's great plan as a failure. |
20:33.36 | *** join/#sporewiki NeonPanda (65b3507e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.179.80.126) |
20:33.48 | NeonPanda | hi all |
20:33.57 | Monet | Hi |
20:35.10 | OluapPlayer_ | bah I was about to ask him something |
20:35.58 | Monet | Perhaps compared to the others, killing Bladefist using Terokk might be under-whelming |
20:36.56 | OluapPlayer_ | I lik Terokk far more than Bladefist so, that's my opinion there |
20:39.26 | Monet | Blackhand was killed by obliterating the dreadnought he was on, Ner'Zhul was deprived of the Dark Star by an inferred battle with none other than Velen. Garrosh was captured by besieging his bastion in Nagrand, and later dueled one-on-one with Green Jesus |
20:40.55 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ae/Kicath2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20161122204024 I lost my liking for the Kicath head so I re-did |
20:40.56 | Xho | it |
20:40.58 | Xho | I prefer this one |
20:41.10 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd have thought Blackhand died in the raid, not in the ship which he evidently jumped off |
20:42.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho: at least i can see a mouth this time |
20:42.10 | OluapPlayer_ | nitpick de |
20:42.13 | Monet | He was believed dead and the battleship did scar him.. |
20:42.15 | OluapPlayer_ | ded even |
20:42.22 | dino82_ | @monet: Nice Galixism view, mentioned it onthe Tertius Bellum page that Maxios wrote it |
20:46.03 | Xho | Cyrannian|Busy: I might be able to concoct a character for it |
20:46.13 | Cyrannian|Busy | yey |
20:46.21 | Monet | Watched the clip again. |
20:47.08 | Monet | I can see why the Alliance think him dead - he jumps off the ship just as the fireball caught up with him |
20:49.32 | Monet | Terokk's revival wasn't pointless I don't think. |
20:50.14 | Monet | It was a *massive* boost in morale to his followers and a terrifying discovery by the Adherants of Rukmar. |
20:51.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Sure it served of great help for the Outcasts and you do drive the orcs out |
20:51.18 | OluapPlayer_ | But I'd have liked him to have won the fight |
20:51.48 | Monet | Bladefist is a total piece of shit. |
20:51.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Assert your dominance |
20:52.21 | Monet | The more you hate him, the more you're going to love finally ending the asswipe. |
20:52.28 | Wormy_ | Why I am I watching artificial insemination of a sow on evening British television |
20:52.44 | Monet | Wormy: Countryfile? |
20:52.58 | NeonPanda | Why ARE you watching artificial insemination? |
20:53.00 | Wormy_ | Yorkshire vets |
20:53.39 | Monet | OluapPLayer: To be fair, they built Blackhand to be this sucker who just couldn't be killed no matter how much you threw at him. |
20:53.52 | Wormy_ | One man had to sit on the pig and massage its back while the other screwed (yes, like a screw) the thing in, and it squirted in his mouth |
20:54.20 | Wormy_ | Thats how they do things in the countryside hur |
20:54.25 | *** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (muesi007@csel-kh1260-05.cselabs.umn.edu) |
20:54.25 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ |
20:54.30 | The_Randomness | Hello |
20:54.49 | Wormy_ | hi |
20:55.20 | NeonPanda | hi u |
20:56.04 | OluapPlayer_ | I have no strong feelings for any of the orc characters |
20:56.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Well, save for Gul'dan |
20:57.31 | Wormy_ | NeonPanda, Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxCDjJwUXg |
20:57.51 | NeonPanda | I watched enough such procedures during bio so no thanks XD |
20:59.08 | The_Randomness | Met with somebody today for my senior project thingy for astrophysics, and along with getting an initial idea for what I'll be doing, I learned a kind of fancy-sounding word |
20:59.18 | Monet | Sometimes all that feeling needs to be "oh boy I can't wait to finally end him" |
20:59.58 | The_Randomness | Warning, math/physics ahead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symplectic_integrator |
21:00.18 | NeonPanda | [triggered] |
21:00.20 | OluapPlayer_ | I just want better gear so I can move on to Legion |
21:00.37 | Wormy_ | NeonPanda: Actually, it was scene from Inbred with murderous Yorkshire hillbillies |
21:00.45 | The_Randomness | Basically, the project will be looking at different algorithms to simulate n-body systems of particles attracted to each other gravitationally |
21:01.02 | Monet | Though I'm guessing Gul'dan stuck because either a) he's a historic character or b) youwatched the cinematics first. Which is where Gul'dan is most prominent |
21:01.02 | The_Randomness | And the sort of advantages/drawbacks of each method |
21:01.23 | NeonPanda | Monet: Funnily enough when I was playing FFXIV I didn't give two fucks about the BBEG, but I really, REALLY wanted to kill his second in command because she was a massive cunt |
21:01.40 | The_Randomness | heh |
21:01.44 | OluapPlayer_ | He stuck because his participation in the overall narrative goes beyond the Draenor filler |
21:01.57 | OluapPlayer_ | And I like just how blatantly evil he is |
21:06.11 | Wormy_ | The_Randomness: Sounds interesting, guess you'll be looking for accuracy but also what method is best optimised |
21:06.21 | The_Randomness | Right |
21:06.57 | The_Randomness | The main problem with this sort of thing is that even if you do all of the math correctly beforehand, once you put it into the computer, the total energy of your system may not be conserved due to quantization |
21:06.57 | Technobliterator | Which reminds me, since I have Windows again, I can now properly play FFXIV |
21:07.07 | The_Randomness | \o/ |
21:07.32 | Technobliterator | So much to catch up on |
21:08.09 | OluapPlayer_ | Technobliterator: I left a thing for your bot to d |
21:08.10 | OluapPlayer_ | o |
21:08.23 | Technobliterator | Can do it soon since my bot actually works again now |
21:08.34 | Technobliterator | I got bot jobs on other wikis, but I'll get to this after them |
21:08.48 | NeonPanda | I wonder if I could actually be bothered starting up FFXIV again |
21:08.54 | NeonPanda | probably not |
21:09.27 | The_Randomness | :< |
21:10.42 | NeonPanda | I would be the lag if I were playing with you guys, therefore my ability to dungeon would be limited (I'm used to it but it's annoying and precludes higher difficulty dungeons), so I'd probably just end up fishing again |
21:10.59 | NeonPanda | which would be fun, but I'd rather not spend however much money every few months for a very pretty fishing simulator |
21:11.27 | The_Randomness | Is your ping to Cactuar that high? |
21:11.48 | Wormy_ | Sometimes that happens when interacting particles in a system reach numbers the software or hardware can't correct, adding additional energy |
21:12.38 | The_Randomness | NeonPanda: I also know people I could hook you up with if you want to become a pro crafter/gatherer |
21:13.45 | NeonPanda | it's a slight response delay, but enough that I have trouble getting out of circles some times (like between my reaction time and the lag) |
21:15.10 | The_Randomness | Ah, alright |
21:15.32 | NeonPanda | which is the main reason that I either played a tank or a machinist because the latter didn't involve standing close enough to take damage |
21:15.38 | The_Randomness | Heh |
21:17.29 | The_Randomness | Like, if I got all the mats and stuff to get the stuff for leves, I could get a crafter to 50 in a few hours after I get one of my crafter buddies to make the stuff HQ for me |
21:17.50 | NeonPanda | well yeah that's just standard |
21:18.24 | The_Randomness | But crafting is actually pretty fun |
21:18.26 | NeonPanda | I wouldn't do that for gathering though, certain pleasure to be had in just going out and fishing |
21:18.31 | The_Randomness | right |
21:18.38 | NeonPanda | *cough* 60 armourer *cough* |
21:18.40 | The_Randomness | And yeah, I've heard fishing is the most fun |
21:18.48 | NeonPanda | you forget I've been there done that |
21:18.49 | The_Randomness | Even though I'm not very good at crafting lol |
21:18.54 | The_Randomness | yeah, I am |
21:18.56 | The_Randomness | again |
21:18.58 | The_Randomness | ._. |
21:19.42 | NeonPanda | I feel like your FC house could use a giant pair of shark jaws over the doorstep |
21:19.53 | The_Randomness | Heh |
21:20.16 | NeonPanda | that was my main contribution to the FC house was a pair of megalodon jaws in the bar |
21:20.37 | Xho | Monet: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b4/Kitravasuron2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20161122212011 Remade President Suplex |
21:21.48 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Typical Jack Russel taking on anything https://www.facebook.com/stantonwarriors/videos/10154267532318889/ |
21:22.26 | Monet | Xho: Quite the grin he has |
21:23.54 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/33/Kitravasuron2017PAE.png/revision/latest?cb=20161122211930 Did his portrait as well |
21:31.14 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.31) |
21:31.57 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I just realised you are from the part of the UK that directly faces France |
21:32.05 | ImpyDroid | That explains your feeling towards it |
21:32.44 | Xho | kek |
21:33.01 | ImpyDroid | Holy shit looking at a map, one could literally swim from France on a boat and get to Hachi's house |
21:33.12 | ImpyDroid | Be prepared I am coming for your life |
21:33.38 | Monet | People do. Fro mthe UK at least |
21:33.59 | Monet | I hear Richard Branson has an amphibious car he uses sometimes. |
21:34.22 | ImpyDroid | Right I am actually going to check where you all folks live |
21:34.26 | ImpyDroid | Stalker mode activated |
21:34.36 | ImpyDroid | *guys |
21:34.43 | ImpyDroid | Folks is only used for old people right? |
21:35.15 | ImpyDroid | Xho: So you live next to a fucking tiny island |
21:35.33 | ImpyDroid | Isle of Wight |
21:35.42 | ImpyDroid | That sounds badass, like there are zombies there |
21:37.33 | ImpyDroid | What is that with calling every forest a park in the UK? |
21:37.52 | ImpyDroid | That does not look like a park |
21:37.59 | Cyrannian|Busy | I thought Xho lived in Southampton |
21:38.09 | Monet | He does |
21:38.14 | Ghelae | We cut down most of our trees thousands of years ago, so we have to make the few patches of forest we have left special like that. |
21:38.46 | Cyrannian|Busy | Whoops, I thought Impy said that he lived on a tiny island |
21:38.53 | Monet | The Isle of Wight is off the coast of both Southampto nand Portsmouth. |
21:39.12 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: Now I kind of pity you hur |
21:39.29 | Wormy_ | Forests tend to have some historical significance in that they were parks for Barons, Lords and Kings to go hunting |
21:40.00 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
21:40.04 | Monet | TBF we have a forest called "the New Forest" |
21:40.29 | Wormy_ | That's a new one, with no such significance to my knowledge |
21:40.29 | Monet | Established c. 1079 |
21:40.31 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian|Busy: Actually, I *do* live on a tiny island |
21:40.33 | Wormy_ | oh |
21:40.36 | Wormy_ | fail |
21:40.43 | ImpyDroid | I thought to brag about it but then I realised you all live on islands |
21:40.44 | Wormy_ | I thought it was last "last century new" |
21:41.04 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: To the British mind this is a big place |
21:41.07 | Monet | It was recorded in the Domesday book as "Nova Foresta", New Forest in Latin. |
21:41.13 | ImpyDroid | Checking Ireland now, oh God these names |
21:41.27 | Wormy_ | You should see Wales |
21:41.29 | ImpyDroid | "Kilkenny" |
21:41.47 | Xho | Well |
21:41.53 | ImpyDroid | Oh holy shit Cyrannian |
21:41.56 | Xho | Have you ever seen the Wicker Man |
21:41.59 | ImpyDroid | You live next to North Ireland? |
21:42.18 | Xho | The Isle of Wight isn't too far removed from that film |
21:42.24 | Ghelae | Oh, and: "Folks is only used for old people right?" No, but I can only imagine it being said by an old man with a Texan drawl. |
21:42.25 | Cyrannian|Busy | yus, I use it to get free shipping from Amazon mwahahaha |
21:42.53 | Wormy_ | Xho: Check out Yorkshire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxCDjJwUXg |
21:43.01 | Monet | Xho: Maybe with the whole "pagan sex parties thing" being a lot more secular. |
21:43.40 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian|Busy: Kek, we use Finland to travel over Europe freely |
21:43.40 | Hachiman | Is it bad I've been considering the idea of the Fantasyverse version of Santa Claus being an ancient Mannazian warrior-turned-demigod |
21:43.47 | Hachiman | or immortal, rather |
21:43.57 | Cyrannian|Busy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gort - My favourite place name. If only the "t" was a "f", the high population of Brazilians would be a hilarious coincidence |
21:44.03 | ImpyDroid | >Get to EU >Can fly all over EU |
21:44.47 | Xho | Wormy_: Well that went from 0-100 quick |
21:44.59 | Ghelae | Hachiman: I suppose that wouldn't require too much of a retcon to my Christmas Elf page. |
21:45.30 | Hachiman | I remembered the Christmas Elves and figured that he spends his time there throughout most of the year |
21:45.54 | Hachiman | He rests and hibernates throughout the year, only awakening during winter to do battle with monsters and primal evils across the world |
21:46.12 | Xho | Kalarah - it was a weird winter |
21:46.23 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: some villages in my county have Viking and Celtic names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civil_parishes_in_Derbyshire |
21:47.03 | Hachiman | Of course, he also blesses villages and gives gifts to people; he travels across the world upon a sleigh pulled by dire reindeer war-beasts |
21:47.24 | Cyrannian|Busy | Wormy_: Smalley is my favourite |
21:47.27 | Xho | Kalarah - it was a weird winter |
21:47.59 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: >High Peak |
21:48.20 | Xho | Hachiman: Well there is a fiction story I've got called the Demigod Crisis could work |
21:48.23 | Wormy_ | "Monyash" "Youlgreave" and "Edale" are mine, Edale has only two genetic families |
21:48.33 | Hachiman | >Demigod Crisis |
21:48.34 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Because its the Peak District |
21:48.48 | Ghelae | I was just wondering what time of year Calamity of the Gods is supposed to take place. That would be a weird winter. |
21:49.01 | ImpyDroid | All these names sound kind of high fantasy |
21:49.10 | Xho | Hachiman: It's exactly how it sounds |
21:49.21 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: Where do you think Tolkien got it from hur |
21:49.25 | ImpyDroid | True |
21:49.27 | Xho | I could spoil the plot but it wouldn't be so good |
21:49.37 | ImpyDroid | Meanwhile half of the local villages have Finnish names |
21:49.44 | Cyrannian|Busy | Wormy_: Ohoho just discovered this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilbrittain |
21:50.14 | Wormy_ | http://www.peakroutes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/kinder_scout_crowden_clough_3.jpg http://www.peakdistrictinformation.com/images/kinderlow2.jpg http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Travel/Destinations/Europe/England/Derbyshire/Peak%20District/peak%20district-drive-winnats-xlarge.jpg |
21:50.22 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Derbyshire looks like LorTR |
21:50.26 | Monet | I'm guessing 'Kil' is a gaelic word. |
21:50.34 | Wormy_ | Also the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution |
21:50.52 | Wormy_ | So some places look like Saruron's mines or whatever they were called |
21:51.01 | Cyrannian|Busy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muckanaghederdauhaulia - meaning "ridge, shaped like a pig's back, between two expanses of briny water" |
21:51.04 | ImpyDroid | Meanwhile we have places that translate to "Bricktown" or "Claytown" |
21:51.25 | ImpyDroid | Or some commie nonsense lime "Red May" or "Leninsomething" |
21:51.51 | Monet | I grew up ten minutes from Oxford so I can't really joke lol. |
21:51.52 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|Busy: My Irish ancestors came from Chapelizod |
21:52.06 | ImpyDroid | "Moosetown" "Pinetown" |
21:52.14 | ImpyDroid | Fucking Russians with their stupid place names |
21:52.25 | ImpyDroid | There is like one cool town in the oblast |
21:52.31 | ImpyDroid | "Schlisselburg" |
21:53.34 | Hachiman | "The crunching of heavy footsteps alerted brought his foes to a halt, their focus drawn away from their cornered prey; as the howls of the ungodly blizzard raged, the demons' fiery eyes gazed upon the visage of a man, his stature and figure both as impressive as the ancient battleaxe he grasped with a firm hand." |
21:53.54 | ImpyDroid | Our course has a topographic project and apparently there is a town in the Leningrad Oblast called "Volos", which translates as "hair" |
21:54.00 | ImpyDroid | Literally "Hair Town" |
21:54.27 | dino82_ | bye bye |
21:54.33 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Latar volunteers to pull his chariot |
21:55.08 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|Busy: https://imgur.com/r/hiking/4oDgOXm |
21:55.29 | Cyrannian|Busy | That looks amazing |
21:56.26 | Xho | Hachiman: wat u talking about |
21:57.04 | Hachiman | "His coat flowed behind him as he strolled through the deathly winds, while a hand clasped his chin, stroking through a bushy, snow-white beard as he exchanged glances with the unholy forces of the Void. "Ho ho ho..." he muttered, his eyes glimmering as if possessed by the wrath of winter itself." |
21:57.16 | Wormy_ | I'm overly proud and patriotic about Derbyshire |
21:57.23 | Xho | dam dem demigods |
21:57.41 | ImpyDroid | I just realised |
21:57.50 | Xho | Well I guess I could spoil the Demigod Crisis as it will happen either way |
21:57.54 | Hachiman | Santa Claus is the white, Krampus would be the black |
21:57.59 | ImpyDroid | I said I lived on Vasilyevski Island numerous times on this chat |
21:58.09 | Hachiman | Xho: non save it |
21:58.12 | ImpyDroid | so you practically know where I live |
21:58.19 | Xho | Fair enough |
21:58.29 | ImpyDroid | It would not take long to find me, the island is not that big |
21:58.39 | Cyrannian|Busy | Wormy_: #MakeDerbyshireGreatAgain |
21:58.46 | ImpyDroid | Holy shit I gave off my location to potential assassins |
21:58.49 | Wormy_ | ItalreadyISGreat |
21:59.07 | Xho | ImpyDroid: I'm a little short in dinero so I can't make the trip |
21:59.51 | Wormy_ | Kinder Scout for example, is the place where Ramblers illegally walked up the private mountain to make a demonstration of the right to roam the countryside. Rest of the country and world soon followed |
21:59.54 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: Your forest is nothing next to the second Venice... except that Venice freezes over every year so it is a pretty shabby Venice |
21:59.59 | Cyrannian|Busy | ImpyDroid: When you look up my name on Google Images, a picture of a Draconis comes up and when you click it, it links to a random IRC log where I linked to my Facebook, which I always found disconcerting |
21:59.59 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm gonna head there and die to the cold |
22:00.16 | Wormy_ | What forest? |
22:00.37 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: y u reeding santa fanfic? |
22:01.08 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: Peak District |
22:01.15 | Monet | Cyrannian|Busy: You've found the Royal Intelligence Agency's back door. |
22:01.16 | Wormy_ | The whole modern world rests on the Derbyshire's shoulders |
22:01.44 | Hachiman | NeonPanda: I'm not, I'm writing Panda fanfic hur |
22:02.12 | Wormy_ | Its not a forest, its a collection of limestone and gritstone mountains, woods, moorlands, bogs, dales, gorges and derelict industry |
22:02.18 | NeonPanda | I do not use an axe you degenerate |
22:02.26 | Hachiman | Wait fuck |
22:02.34 | Hachiman | I meant Santa not Panda |
22:02.38 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Holy shit you have a ruined castle in the middle of your city |
22:02.41 | NeonPanda | good job |
22:02.41 | OluapPlayer_ | A+ |
22:02.45 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Also Peak District gets snowed in too |
22:02.56 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: Ah yes, we do |
22:03.09 | NeonPanda | also we should play duelyst after chicken is done cooking so I can introduce you to my new magmar friends |
22:03.16 | Monet | Built by a bloody Frenchman. |
22:03.20 | Hachiman | I'm afraid I can't |
22:03.26 | Hachiman | My headset is ded |
22:03.42 | NeonPanda | y this |
22:03.44 | Cyrannian|Busy | inb4 Impy is a member of Russian Intelligence |
22:03.48 | Hachiman | I broke it by accident |
22:03.48 | NeonPanda | unded ur hedset |
22:03.52 | ImpyDroid | Is it just a ruin? |
22:03.58 | Hachiman | It is just a ruin yes |
22:04.03 | ImpyDroid | Right |
22:04.15 | ImpyDroid | Now that I imagine it it must look fucking surreal |
22:04.18 | NeonPanda | Cyrannian: well you're a waptorian infiltrator so for all we know this is a meeting of international men of mystery |
22:04.21 | NeonPanda | and one woman of mystery |
22:04.35 | Monet | Most English towns and cities will have a castle in the middle, most of them are in ruins. |
22:04.43 | Hachiman | And because I proposed making Fantasyverse Santa an ancient, immortal warrior who fills roughly the same role as actual Santa, except he also kills monsters, demons, and other monstrosities and has his sleigh pulled by mythical dire reindeer war-beasts |
22:05.02 | NeonPanda | if that was any more edgy you'd cut yourself reading it |
22:05.09 | Hachiman | Hardly edgy |
22:05.25 | NeonPanda | making santa an ancient immortal warrior battling evil, yeah pretty edgy |
22:05.42 | Wormy_ | https://www.visitengland.com/sites/default/files/styles/experience_page_consumer_gallery_image/public/dovedale-peak-district.jpg?itok=OaziXg7- http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6986492.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/sat-travel.jpg https://static1.squarespace.com/static/52d7f61fe4b08a516dd3e863/530e002ee4b0690c9e1668c3/530e0031e4b0b85c7b3409d3/1440590133932/Hampers_Hang,_Peak_District.jpg http://www.walkingenglishman.com/peakdistrict/03/0 |
22:05.43 | ImpyDroid | More comical than edgy |
22:05.54 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Huh |
22:06.01 | Hachiman | I mean, I'd say it's more metal than anything, but different strokes |
22:06.17 | ImpyDroid | Okay we have castles too but they are either far away from large cities or are functional |
22:06.19 | Monet | https://kayjayaitch.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/warwick-castle-westside.jpg this is one of the more well-preserved castles in England. |
22:06.34 | Hachiman | My parents actually got married at a castle |
22:06.54 | Hachiman | Bodiam Castle, in fact |
22:07.13 | ImpyDroid | That is fucking cool |
22:07.23 | Monet | General rule of thumb in England is if a castle isn't a ruin it's probably been converted into a palace. |
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22:07.37 | NeonPanda | if you go back a couple of generations my family owns a castle |
22:07.39 | Wormy_ | I used to partly live on a narrow boat |
22:07.39 | ImpyDroid | Monet: I assume that Anglo-Saxons and Russians had different construction techniques |
22:08.02 | Hachiman | Hey Drodo, we were just discussing castles and how England is full of them |
22:08.02 | ImpyDroid | Russia has a lot of intact castles but these are more like keeps |
22:08.13 | Cyrannian|Busy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%BAn_Dealgan_Motte - This one is located right behind my house |
22:08.19 | Hachiman | And also how I have a castle ruin in the centre of my city and how my parents got married in one |
22:08.25 | Monet | That and after the 15th century castles as fortresses in England became rather pointless. |
22:08.28 | ImpyDroid | Like most old cities have a ring of fortifications at the center |
22:08.50 | Monet | Portsmouth, iirc, has a star fort. |
22:08.54 | ImpyDroid | These are called kremlins |
22:09.08 | Wormy_ | Not a castle but this is a pretty famous building https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Chatsworth_Bridge.jpg/300px-Chatsworth_Bridge.jpg |
22:09.16 | ImpyDroid | Most old ethnic Russian cities and some non-Russian ones have a Kremlin |
22:09.30 | Wormy_ | I think Derbyshire has one of the oldest, a Norman castle in Duffield. Not thats it much now |
22:10.02 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
22:10.03 | DrodoEmpire | Also cool |
22:10.12 | Xho | Southampton has quite a wide array of ruins |
22:10.24 | Xho | Mainly because half of the medieval walls are still intact |
22:10.27 | ImpyDroid | Monet: http://www.kazan-kremlin.ru/system/slider/p11.jpg Do British cities have these? |
22:10.28 | Xho | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southampton_town_walls |
22:10.33 | ImpyDroid | Something like a kremlin |
22:10.45 | Monet | Ahh not really. |
22:10.52 | DrodoEmpire | There's a few notable fortifications in NS, actually |
22:11.25 | Monet | Closest to something like a Kremlin might be how some cities still have their original walls to an extent. |
22:11.26 | DrodoEmpire | Including the absolutely massive Fortress of Louisbourg, which is partially reconstructed (about a sixth of it has been rebuilt and its *huge* just for that) and there're reenactments there |
22:11.30 | DrodoEmpire | Its incredible |
22:11.54 | Wormy_ | Gosh, I've never been here http://c8.alamy.com/comp/B87BCH/the-tower-alport-castles-alport-dale-peak-district-national-park-derbyshire-B87BCH.jpg |
22:12.30 | Wormy_ | Might find some fossils and calcite crystals there |
22:12.42 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Chances are the closest we have to a Kremlin is a palace or manor house that because reasons looks vaguely castle-shaped. |
22:12.50 | Monet | Like Warick. |
22:13.25 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah unfortunately the closest thing I can think of in NS/Canada is the Citadel in Halifax |
22:13.50 | DrodoEmpire | Which is a star fort set near the coast |
22:13.52 | ImpyDroid | Monet: So what is different is that we do not have castles as independent buildings |
22:14.04 | Monet | ImpyDroid: http://www.aboutbritain.com/images/attraction/big/tower-of-london-aerial-view-132125153.jpg would this count? |
22:14.10 | ImpyDroid | We have circles of walls and fortifications surrounding important areas in a cites |
22:14.21 | ImpyDroid | Whereas you have full-on buildings |
22:14.38 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Yes that looks a bit like the Moscow Kremlin |
22:16.33 | Cyrannian|Busy | Visiting the Tower of London was my favourite memory from my trip |
22:16.45 | ImpyDroid | Your castles doubled as palaces and administration centers |
22:16.48 | ImpyDroid | I presume |
22:16.49 | Monet | England never really had foreign invasion issues like the Mongols and I don't think England was really invaded after the Normans. |
22:17.27 | Monet | Well except for the odd Scot or Jacobite invasion. |
22:18.44 | ImpyDroid | So there was not that much of a need to protect entire CITIES |
22:19.44 | Monet | Until cannons became a serious thing there was some need. Problem is a lot of cities relied more on Roman rather than post-Norman walls. |
22:20.58 | Wormy_ | Monet: Once people in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire rallied for an invasion on London, got to several thousand, but nobody turned out in the last few cities. |
22:21.05 | Monet | During the Fifteenth and Sixteenth centuries the monarchy spent a buttload on coastal fortifications for a war with France that never happened. |
22:21.13 | Monet | invasion from France* |
22:22.03 | NeonPanda | gotta be careful for when they ride over the water on their horses |
22:22.36 | ImpyDroid | Xho: I ought to use Latar more but then again |
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22:23.11 | Monet | Although if I recall my history, had Napoleon won at Waterloo, he might have been the first in centuries to invade English soil. |
22:23.14 | ImpyDroid | Being a half-naked bubbly deer woman I feel she feels like a weird furry fetish object |
22:24.22 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Yeah |
22:24.51 | Xho | There was a castle I went to in France many years ago |
22:24.54 | NeonPanda | ImpyDroid: that was an odd sentence to read, not gonna lie |
22:24.59 | Xho | Unfortunately I don't remember what it was called |
22:25.04 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose a big thing to remember is that castles like those were indeed centres of government and political influence in the medieval era |
22:25.16 | Monet | They were. |
22:25.22 | DrodoEmpire | Moreso than they were defensive fortifications, even |
22:25.55 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Come to think about it, Russia and England are both very much impenetrable but in different ways |
22:26.04 | Monet | We're all taught in English history that after securing London, Willion of Normandy decided to build castles everywhere he could. |
22:26.22 | ImpyDroid | Britain is defended by sea, Russia by its vast extent |
22:26.43 | NeonPanda | and Australia by sea, the fact that most of it is uninhabitable and the rest of it wants to kill you :) |
22:26.57 | ImpyDroid | One finds it very hard invade Britain to begin with; Russia is easier to attack but very difficult to fight in |
22:27.17 | Monet | The project was so ambitious that they started out with wooden forts like this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d8/ef/dc/d8efdc43e387904018843e779bb41126.jpg |
22:27.17 | ImpyDroid | >implying someone would actually want to fight for Australia |
22:27.30 | NeonPanda | the Japanese did |
22:27.36 | NeonPanda | and they regretted it |
22:27.42 | ImpyDroid | Britain and Russia are like polar opposites but also very similar |
22:27.58 | Monet | Many towns (Oxford included) still have their old mottes somewhere near theri city centres. |
22:28.03 | ImpyDroid | Napoleon and Hitler both tried to conquer both and both failed |
22:28.56 | ImpyDroid | Both are kind of multiethnic and unstable, both are in decline, both are hard to conquer, both have a strong drinking culture, both ruled the world |
22:29.26 | Xho | Well I can't find the castle ruin I've been to but blah |
22:30.01 | ImpyDroid | Both are kind of contradictory |
22:30.08 | ImpyDroid | Both are miserable |
22:30.13 | Monet | I could argue that Britain has been an unstable nation for maybe the past 500 years. |
22:30.24 | NeonPanda | I should go to the parts of france Australia rocked up to during the wars |
22:31.34 | Monet | We were the first nation to industrialise, but all the lovely dresses and fancy suits were fashion for the gentry and the aristocracy while even in 1880 a common Londoner might have dressed like a rural commoner in 1650 |
22:31.39 | Xho | I think it was possibly the Château de Fougères I went to |
22:31.55 | Xho | Trying to narrow down the geography |
22:32.16 | ImpyDroid | Also what is that with Japanese castles? |
22:32.25 | ImpyDroid | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/Nagoya_Castle%28Edit2%29.jpg/1920px-Nagoya_Castle%28Edit2%29.jpg They just look like big houses |
22:32.30 | ImpyDroid | Not like actual housds |
22:32.33 | Xho | why not |
22:32.40 | Hachiman | Well, you know they actually lived in them right |
22:33.01 | DrodoEmpire | They were likely built that way to resist earthquakes, and because it was cheap and Japan's resource-poor |
22:33.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, medieval fortifications across the entire planet were used as residences |
22:33.20 | DrodoEmpire | That was one of their primary purposes |
22:33.26 | Xho | They were pretty well fortified as well |
22:33.49 | DrodoEmpire | As I said, they were centres of political power more than just military centres |
22:33.51 | Xho | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagoya_Castle#/media/File:Nagoya_Castle_merged.jpg Try and siege that doi |
22:33.54 | Monet | I think that's Impy's point. Japanese castles (at least the ones that stil lsurvive) have rather large windows and prone to burning. |
22:35.31 | Monet | But maybe it was that building-grade stone was rare. |
22:35.49 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Don't know whether this series will interest you, basically the British Empire in original colour https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mexNOFv70R8&t=345s |
22:36.03 | Wormy_ | It fills one with both nostalgia and regret |
22:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
22:37.07 | Wormy_ | Oops I cut part way into it https://youtu.be/mexNOFv70R8 |
22:38.34 | Monet | I guess contrast to Europe where because of its quantity and homogenaity, the stone quarried from Caen was *the* building material in Medieval England. |
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22:43.49 | Cyrannian|Busy | Hi Liquid |
22:47.26 | DrodoAway | brb |
22:47.51 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
22:48.46 | Cyrannian|Busy | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AQApQVxIRk |
22:50.45 | Liquid_Ink | Memories |
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22:54.04 | Wormy_ | So true |
23:02.28 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
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23:56.58 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
23:59.30 | Monet | Hi |