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| 00:02.26 | DrodoEmpire | kk <.< |
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| 01:03.32 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 01:03.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:14.47 | Wormy_ | The_Randomness, Tek0516 http://imgur.com/gallery/OALJK |
| 01:15.04 | The_Randomness | lmao |
| 01:38.35 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/1g1yNOP.mp4 |
| 01:39.28 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 01:44.51 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/7BIoy |
| 01:47.34 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow, "Shelter", both the audio and the music video are now at a combined 11 million views |
| 02:28.56 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/y9Z3tnh.jpg |
| 02:29.09 | The_Randomness | already saw that |
| 02:29.14 | The_Randomness | stale shitpost |
| 02:29.16 | The_Randomness | :^) |
| 02:29.25 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
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| 04:21.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yesssss |
| 04:21.02 | DrodoEmpire | Finally |
| 04:21.19 | DrodoEmpire | I found "Fall of Ming" that has English subtitles |
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| 04:29.58 | Tek0516 | Augh. I pushed a change and something else is completely broken in our code. I keep saying it was impossible to be mine, but mine seems to be getting the blame. I'm not even sure if the broken part worked originally. |
| 04:31.47 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez. |
| 04:32.18 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/paZOEOE That soldier made that kid's day <3 |
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| 04:40.10 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: that was awesome |
| 04:41.52 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 04:42.46 | DrodoEmpire | I gotta say too, the uniforms of the Royal Guard are just fantastic |
| 04:49.34 | Tek0516 | Though honestly I'm not sure who broke it, how it broke, or why it's broken. And we have to present our code tomorrow. >.> |
| 04:50.26 | DrodoEmpire | Ouch... |
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| 11:18.22 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 15:51.26 | Cyrannian | Hi |
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| 15:55.28 | OluapPlayer | ~destroy Cyrannian |
| 15:55.28 | infobot | no |
| 15:55.37 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer |
| 15:55.37 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction |
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| 16:02.32 | Cyrannian | Hi Treebeard |
| 16:03.13 | Ghelae | Hi |
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| 16:29.06 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: Did you see any of my recent updates? |
| 16:29.26 | OluapPlayer | I did |
| 16:29.33 | OluapPlayer | I always got the Recent Changes open |
| 16:30.49 | Cyrannian | I'm not even nearly finished though, it's hard to keep track of outdated pages |
| 16:31.59 | OluapPlayer | u got a to-do list for dis very reason |
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| 16:36.19 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
| 16:36.46 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 16:37.01 | Groxkiller98 | Everyone good? |
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| 17:10.28 | Xho | aaaack |
| 17:10.39 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 17:22.17 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Do you think Gnorvi might appear in the Winter of Discontent if I think there's a space |
| 17:22.40 | OluapPlayer | If you want I guess so |
| 17:24.10 | Xho | I might make this an open story actually |
| 17:24.21 | Xho | Although not many characters can be dedicated to it |
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| 17:25.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 17:26.38 | Xho | Hachiman: Any characters you might have that can be in Winter of Discontent |
| 17:27.04 | Xho | Granted I don't know how many characters would want to help Arcturus |
| 17:28.06 | Xho | Right now the protagonists are Arcturus, Septimus and Longinus |
| 17:28.13 | Xho | Antagonists are Julianus and Gnorvi |
| 17:28.55 | NeonPanda | I immediately thought of a crossover of SC2 and TES |
| 17:29.39 | Charles_Murray | ??? http://imgur.com/a/3hMlL |
| 17:29.44 | Charles_Murray | wtf foreign affairs |
| 17:29.48 | Xho | I just think of Soul Calibur II when you say that |
| 17:29.50 | Charles_Murray | go home you're drunk |
| 17:37.34 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 17:38.01 | Hachiman | The dwarves MIGHT take a chance |
| 17:38.16 | Hachiman | With the Shiarchon, granted they probably don't have a good reputation |
| 17:39.49 | Xho | righty |
| 17:39.58 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Any protagonists you could think of? |
| 17:40.10 | OluapPlayer | Noe |
| 17:40.18 | Xho | Arcturus - bastards |
| 17:45.13 | Technobliterator | test |
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| 18:12.48 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 18:14.46 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 18:20.26 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 18:25.36 | Imperios | Hi |
| 18:25.42 | Imperios | Wormydroid: http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/71533000/jpg/_71533812_350636.jpg That flag looks kind of cool |
| 18:26.33 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Is there any way to use ranged weapons as a warrior? |
| 18:26.41 | Imperios | Not anymore |
| 18:26.48 | Imperios | Though, I think you can in theory use one |
| 18:26.54 | Imperios | You just won't be able to do abilities with it |
| 18:27.10 | OluapPlayer | You can't attack with them, but you can equip them |
| 18:27.24 | OluapPlayer | So it's kinda pointless |
| 18:27.35 | OluapPlayer | It'd be good to have a ranged sidearm for flying enemies |
| 18:27.54 | Imperios | I thought warriors had throw abilities |
| 18:28.06 | OluapPlayer | They have one and it deals like no damage |
| 18:28.17 | OluapPlayer | It's useful for aggroing things, not killing them |
| 18:28.23 | Imperios | Back in 2010 or so warriors had ranged sidearms though |
| 18:28.39 | Imperios | There were even special guns tailored for warriors that gave strength rather than agility |
| 18:28.50 | Imperios | Being a hunter, I stole one even if it was useless to me |
| 18:28.58 | OluapPlayer | fukin hunters |
| 18:29.02 | Imperios | I was a STRONG hunter |
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| 18:35.04 | Wormydroid | H |
| 18:36.50 | Imperios | Ghelae: I wonder |
| 18:36.53 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15170743_1860488854182209_7466710900930635568_n.jpg?oh=2613141bb34540eb8d66e1f301138d2c&oe=58D18190 |
| 18:37.14 | Imperios | How is "unconditional marginal distribution" ...any different from normal marginal distribution? |
| 18:37.32 | Xho | Hachiman: amen |
| 18:37.38 | Imperios | Like isn't marginal distribution supposed to be unconditional (in regards to one of the variables that is) |
| 18:38.05 | Hachiman | Xho: Is WoD taking place in Talmyr or Abyssus? |
| 18:38.38 | NeonPanda | well, this internet monkey doesn't seem to understand how one debates |
| 18:38.49 | Xho | Abyssus |
| 18:39.04 | Hachiman | NeonPanda: wat |
| 18:39.21 | Ghelae | Imperios: It does sound tautological, yes. I'm not sure what it is. |
| 18:39.23 | Ghelae | looks it up |
| 18:40.15 | Wormydroid | I am so diseased right now |
| 18:40.26 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: basically guy was like "with all these races how are humans the dominant race in 5e?" to which I responded, humans are adaptable as hell and can therefore get everywhere and do everything, and are ambitious as hell and therefore WANT to go everywhere and do everything |
| 18:40.57 | Hachiman | And his response? |
| 18:41.07 | NeonPanda | so far all the other person has managed to say is "but there are all these other races that would try to stop them" |
| 18:41.18 | NeonPanda | to which my response was "which is why humans adapt to overcome opposition" |
| 18:41.21 | Ghelae | Imperios: As far as I can see, there's no such thing as an unconditional marginal distribution as opposed to a marginal distribution; they're synonymous. |
| 18:41.25 | Hachiman | Key word is "try" in that sentence |
| 18:41.40 | Imperios | Right, that makes sense |
| 18:41.49 | NeonPanda | exactly; most races lack the ability to actually STOP humanity even if they wanted to, and most races that have the ability to don't actually really want to (or care) |
| 18:42.21 | Imperios | Also, since the random variable I want to make a marginal distribution of is not discrete |
| 18:42.24 | Wormydroid | Pretty hard for a race that can do few things to try and stop one that is universal |
| 18:42.27 | Imperios | Am I supposed to just list the densities? |
| 18:42.38 | Hachiman | Wormydroid is on point there |
| 18:43.19 | NeonPanda | you aren't going to have a grand alliance of elves and dwarves against humans because when the humans rocked up and figured out that they weren't going to be able to plant the flag for mother england they started socialising |
| 18:43.35 | NeonPanda | not to mention the fact that elves and dwarves hate each other more than they hate humans |
| 18:43.40 | Ghelae | The marginal distribution would be a continuous density function rather than a set of discrete values. |
| 18:43.44 | Hachiman | They hate each other in 5E? |
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| 18:44.03 | NeonPanda | well not hate as in mortal enemies, but they don't like each other enough that it bears out mentioning |
| 18:44.07 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 18:44.26 | NeonPanda | which is a lot more than can be said about humans- which in fact both kind of like in one way or another |
| 18:44.30 | Hachiman | I imagine the reputation of being hated by the elves and dwarves more than each other belongs to the orcs |
| 18:44.39 | NeonPanda | oh yeah, definitely |
| 18:47.49 | Xho | Imperios: Would Servius join Julianus or Arcturus after Eschaton |
| 18:47.56 | Imperios | Hmmm |
| 18:48.04 | Hachiman | Who would Servius serve |
| 18:48.13 | Xho | servy man |
| 18:48.41 | Charles_Murray | Imperios : You might be interested - https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2016-04-13/once-and-future-superpower |
| 18:48.46 | Imperios | Arcturus could be interesting |
| 18:49.28 | OluapPlayer | sees |
| 18:49.29 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: MAkes |
| 18:49.48 | Imperios | Makes sense, I imagine China would at some point stall like Japan and grow to a respectable world power but not THE superpower |
| 18:50.08 | Charles_Murray | You read the whole thing that fast? :o |
| 18:50.38 | Imperios | I read the free part, your filthy capitalist website makes me pay to read it |
| 18:50.50 | Charles_Murray | *facepalm* |
| 18:50.57 | Charles_Murray | You get one free article if you create an account |
| 18:51.01 | Imperios | Right |
| 18:52.02 | Imperios | Also hey hey no need to be rude here |
| 18:52.34 | Charles_Murray | Oh |
| 18:52.37 | Charles_Murray | Sorry |
| 18:52.46 | Charles_Murray | The facepalm was directed at foreign affairs |
| 18:52.56 | Charles_Murray | The fact that they make you pay is indeed dum |
| 18:53.32 | Charles_Murray | I downloaded it and uploaded it to dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bmt1ac9vkwrfgon/Once%20and%20Future%20Superpower.pdf?dl=0 |
| 18:54.24 | Charles_Murray | It's really worth the read beyond its main point, since it gives you a great overview of the different elements of international relations and power in the 21st century |
| 18:54.42 | Charles_Murray | And Russia plays an important role in the article ;) |
| 19:03.15 | Imperios | I find it weird that the article talks so much about conflicts, I do not think China and America can actually get into a fight, not even a proxy war |
| 19:06.46 | Charles_Murray | How do you mean? (Possibly link me a quote?) |
| 19:08.29 | Imperios | >Chinaâs defense industry is still in its infancy, and as the scholar Richard Bitzinger and his colleagues have concluded, âAside from a few pockets of excellence such as ballistic missiles, the Chinese military-industrial complex has appeared to demonstrate few capacities for designing and producing relatively advanced conventional weapon systems.â |
| 19:08.43 | Imperios | Though I presume America does not have to FIRE its guns |
| 19:08.48 | Imperios | Just intimidate China |
| 19:10.42 | Charles_Murray | Well, what is actually missed a lot is the fact that a lot of foreign politics during peacetime is the interplay of power between states |
| 19:11.28 | Imperios | About the Philippines, didn't the recent president speak against the US? |
| 19:11.32 | Charles_Murray | The balance of power, the -potentiality- that states might harm others, take certain actions, acquire certain capabilities, etc, all of that is the subject of intense calculation and analysis |
| 19:11.37 | Charles_Murray | Yeah |
| 19:12.06 | Xho | Imperios OluapPlayer Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Winter_of_Discontent#Rain%20of%20Razors |
| 19:12.08 | Charles_Murray | So just because two states aren't at war doesn't mean they aren't involved in security competition |
| 19:12.35 | OluapPlayer | rain of raisins |
| 19:12.48 | Xho | Julianus is as horrid as a raisin so it makes sense |
| 19:12.58 | Charles_Murray | It's not something that's suddenly turned on when a war starts, and turned off when it ends; it's a constant throughout |
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| 19:15.14 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:16.02 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, hi |
| 19:17.21 | Hachiman | Xho: Julianus has been watching too much GoT |
| 19:17.31 | Xho | Julianus - lol no |
| 19:17.40 | dino82_ | :D |
| 19:17.44 | Cyrannian | Hai Dino |
| 19:18.08 | Charles_Murray | Hey dino! |
| 19:19.12 | Hachiman | "Shirtless Hero Risks Everything In Order To Save Stranded Dog On Frozen Pond" "not all heroes wear capes, shit this one doesn't even wear a shirt and he's 4x as badass as you are" |
| 19:19.40 | OluapPlayer | woof |
| 19:21.20 | OluapPlayer | >The wives will be brought to me alive and unharmed. |
| 19:21.22 | dino82_ | Hi! |
| 19:21.25 | dino82_ | Late this evening |
| 19:21.26 | OluapPlayer | Julianus' amazing harem adventure |
| 19:21.31 | dino82_ | had lots of homework to do................................-_- |
| 19:21.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 19:21.45 | Hachiman | I was gonna say, Julianus seems a little rapey |
| 19:22.12 | OluapPlayer | We ought to get the Eschaton ending done |
| 19:23.14 | Xho | yeah but when doe |
| 19:23.21 | Hachiman | l8r |
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| 19:25.40 | Xho | Hachiman: It's not really a cause of rape as it is being polygamous to legitmise lordship over the Sanguine Promenade |
| 19:26.18 | Xho | Some wifebeating might occur |
| 19:26.29 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 19:26.31 | OluapPlayer | Gros - fair |
| 19:26.35 | Xho | Julianus is a more suitable vector for destruction than Kalarah was |
| 19:26.44 | dino82_ | What gooing on with Julianus? Missed omsething? |
| 19:26.55 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Winter_of_Discontent#Rain%20of%20Razors Julianus kills people |
| 19:26.56 | Hachiman | I just imagine Julianus in a wifebeater vest |
| 19:27.07 | Imperios | Xho: So semi-consensual |
| 19:27.19 | Xho | More like his consensus, not theirs |
| 19:27.34 | Xho | Then again you're not going to try and fight against a guy who can literally tear a Shiarchon's head off |
| 19:28.30 | OluapPlayer | Kebra'Osos - but i can also do dat |
| 19:28.42 | Xho | Julianus - i am a shiarchon u numbnut |
| 19:29.00 | OluapPlayer | Kebra'Osos - not mai shiarchon tho hed goes off nao |
| 19:29.23 | Xho | Hachiman: https://soundcloud.com/bastard/monolithic-twist-of-the-knife Jesus fucking christ |
| 19:29.37 | Xho | That being said it's Fredrik Thordendal Approved |
| 19:32.03 | Xho | I'm gonna call it Silent Hill x Doom |
| 19:32.23 | dino82_ | interessting fellow this Julianus :D |
| 19:34.08 | Imperios | Xho: So rape basically |
| 19:34.19 | Xho | Yeah |
| 19:34.25 | Imperios | Or at least a "well I did not want this but I am okay with it" situation |
| 19:34.41 | OluapPlayer | Or there's no sex involved and he's just beating them up |
| 19:34.53 | Xho | It might be different on the account they're mostly five thousand years old or so |
| 19:35.03 | Xho | Relationships might be different |
| 19:35.38 | Xho | With Orichalcum Elves and Shiarchon you could have like thirty generations of a family and the first generation is still alive |
| 19:36.02 | Hachiman | If I recall, there comes a point where Shiarchon do not have dongs anymore so |
| 19:36.48 | Xho | Well yes |
| 19:36.57 | Xho | Although past Eschaton the Shiarchon are no longer cursed |
| 19:37.00 | Xho | dongs for everyone |
| 19:37.47 | Imperios | So they are just pale Oriflamme elves |
| 19:38.00 | Imperios | Oriflame even |
| 19:38.03 | Hachiman | Oriflambe |
| 19:38.10 | OluapPlayer | wut |
| 19:38.10 | Hachiman | GONNA TAKE YOU TO FLAVOURTOWN |
| 19:38.26 | OluapPlayer | top nani |
| 19:38.49 | Xho | top nani indeed |
| 19:39.00 | Xho | Basically yes |
| 19:39.21 | Xho | Arcturus has an arctic silver kind of skin |
| 19:39.24 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bf/ArcturusPostShiarchon.png/revision/latest?cb=20161015180200 |
| 19:40.24 | Imperios | Oriflambe |
| 19:40.34 | Imperios | So like elf gorillas? |
| 19:40.51 | Imperios | Xho: A redemption story in Xho's fiction |
| 19:40.52 | Imperios | What the |
| 19:40.59 | OluapPlayer | The fuck are you all even talking about |
| 19:42.33 | Xho | No clue |
| 19:42.45 | Xho | Golden Harambe apparently |
| 19:42.51 | OluapPlayer | cancer |
| 19:44.00 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Instead of doing dumb memes how about you work on dem Klaxxa |
| 19:44.12 | Imperios | Might as well |
| 19:44.20 | Imperios | I have an hour or so of free time |
| 19:44.32 | OluapPlayer | Now I can't help but get reminded of the Klaxxi |
| 19:46.03 | OluapPlayer | Steam-powered empire of giant mantis men wouldn't be good for anyone |
| 19:47.14 | OluapPlayer | If you work on them I could make that Aether Drake diplomat guy we talked about |
| 19:48.02 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: THE WILL OF THE KLAXXA IS A TURTLE |
| 19:48.28 | OluapPlayer | LEKREN THE ALCHEMIST HAS RETURNED *vomits potions* |
| 19:49.52 | Xho | naze |
| 19:50.07 | Xho | Or perhaps nande |
| 19:50.32 | Hachiman | ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo |
| 19:55.22 | Xho | ochinchin o sue yarou |
| 19:56.12 | Xho | Or in other words, 'suck dick' |
| 19:56.27 | OluapPlayer | sug dig |
| 19:58.01 | Xho | fug :DDD |
| 20:00.42 | Imperios | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_snpmKkJpw |
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| 20:06.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Wormy |
| 20:06.21 | Wormy_ | hello |
| 20:10.19 | Wormy_ | OluapPlayer: Croissant or Sloth? http://i.imgur.com/nNShDwZ.jpg |
| 20:10.41 | OluapPlayer | the laziest croissants |
| 20:13.09 | DrodoEmpire | honhon |
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| 20:34.22 | drom | Goddamn cousin for being unreliable. |
| 20:36.57 | dino82_ | oh? |
| 20:44.59 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.03 | Imperios | Cyrannian Xho Wormy_: https://pp.vk.me/c637430/v637430395/1dd24/vxNzpMuI7mY.jpg Meanwhile in Russia |
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| 20:45.22 | Monet | hi |
| 20:45.30 | Xho | Imperios: we are legion for we are snowy |
| 20:45.31 | Xho | Hi |
| 20:45.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 20:46.41 | dino82_ | hi monet |
| 20:46.45 | dino82_ | Nice article of Maxios |
| 20:46.48 | dino82_ | interessting!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:46.53 | Monet | Thanks |
| 20:47.52 | Monet | It felt wise that he'd publish several years after the Gorge incident's talks. |
| 20:48.56 | dino82_ | yeah that is a nice article |
| 20:49.00 | dino82_ | qutie neutral as well I think |
| 20:49.16 | dino82_ | not to condemning or pointing fingers but clear on his side of view and opinion |
| 20:50.29 | drom | Wormy_: "In logic, a tautology (from the Greek word ÏαÏ
Ïολογία) is a formula that is true in every possible interpretation." |
| 20:50.34 | drom | scratches head |
| 20:51.09 | Imperios | Xho: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Rekgerb.gif |
| 20:51.11 | DrodoEmpire | Basically its a statement that's so obviously true its meaningless |
| 20:51.20 | DrodoEmpire | i.e "The world is a dangerous place" |
| 20:51.23 | Xho | Imperios: send help |
| 20:53.54 | drom | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.35 | Wormy_ | I think hm, DeMorgan's Law is a logical tautology, like "the complement of the union of two sets is the same as the intersection of their complements; and the complement of the intersection of two sets is the same as the union of their complements." |
| 20:54.51 | drom | Ugh |
| 20:54.59 | drom | I better not get this in my Java programming course |
| 20:55.28 | Wormy_ | Well we've made a big jump from coding nice maze solvers and such like to propositional logic |
| 20:55.50 | Wormy_ | I have looked at it before but coding it is something-else |
| 20:56.25 | Wormy_ | Thanks, that link could help |
| 20:56.42 | drom | If it is in python |
| 20:56.56 | drom | I think you could save the expression as a string in an class for those. |
| 20:57.08 | drom | Then execute the string in the python interpreter |
| 20:57.56 | drom | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/701802/how-do-i-execute-a-string-containing-python-code-in-python |
| 20:58.17 | Wormy_ | The bit missing from the Reddit post is that I have to use classes, objects and inheritance |
| 20:58.56 | drom | Hm, inherit from the built-in object class, I guess? |
| 21:01.01 | Wormy_ | I imahine eval is the class |
| 21:01.41 | Wormy_ | Oh wait, you can't see that bit |
| 21:03.54 | drom | eval is a built-in global function iirc |
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| 21:14.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 21:14.36 | tcm | hi |
| 21:36.34 | drom | brb a little |
| 21:37.52 | tcm | alright, i need some formatting help |
| 21:38.15 | tcm | i'm trying to put a border around a tabber but wikia isn't letting me |
| 21:39.22 | tcm | is this a thing that can be done, or should i look for some other way |
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| 21:41.50 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 21:44.31 | Monet | Hello |
| 21:46.19 | tcm | anyone know anything about html format |
| 21:49.07 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 21:49.12 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno anything myse;f |
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| 21:59.36 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 21:59.43 | Xho | Hi |
| 21:59.49 | Xho | Talking about Arcturus' family is freaking weird |
| 22:00.05 | Xho | I mean he's 5,000 years old and his children are ~4,950 years old |
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| 22:17.23 | drom | Aaand, I return |
| 22:17.50 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:18.12 | drom | I made the mistake drinking a fifth pitcher of coffee before going to bed. |
| 22:18.36 | drom | So here I am, physically awake, but mentally asleep |
| 22:20.42 | drom | Besides that, I learned this weekend that Overwatch was indeed fun |
| 22:22.26 | Wormy_ | I'm physical and mentally asleep |
| 22:22.38 | Wormy_ | But the coughing keeps me awake |
| 22:23.36 | Wormy_ | Have flu/laryngitis and it is getting worse by the day |
| 22:24.53 | The_Randomness | ouch |
| 22:24.59 | Xho | I've got some weird sore throat thing going atm |
| 22:25.02 | Xho | Probably strep throat |
| 22:26.22 | drom | Thankfully I don't have one |
| 22:26.32 | drom | But oh god the existential dread and stress |
| 22:26.52 | drom | It is growing larger and larger as every new day slip past me |
| 22:27.09 | Xho | How that's just called getting older |
| 22:27.22 | drom | I'm in university as well |
| 22:27.26 | drom | I am not prepared for this |
| 22:27.26 | Xho | When you reach 22 you stop giving a fuck |
| 22:27.30 | drom | Not only that |
| 22:27.46 | drom | Mother is chewing me out for not doing chores or studying |
| 22:28.04 | drom | > programming for a Java assignment |
| 22:28.13 | drom | > she steps in, "WHY ARE YOU DOING MATHS REEEEEE" |
| 22:30.23 | NeonPanda | sounds like your mother has a significant case of not being hte sharpest tool in the shed, and being too light headed to be a hammer |
| 22:31.05 | drom | Well, I failed the math exam I had to take two months ago, I've to take a new one in the next month |
| 22:31.33 | drom | It doesn't matter much but, she never did university. |
| 22:32.37 | Wormy_ | My family keeps on my case to help keep me working, but now seeing how ill I've become/its actually made me, they also keep nagging me to rest at the same time |
| 22:33.32 | Wormy_ | I think I got so stressed and tired last week not sleeping and working that it stuffed over my immyne system |
| 22:33.37 | drom | NeonPanda: I've discovered an obvious trait of appeal for authority. Since she sometimes targets my dad for not doing A or B. |
| 22:35.18 | drom | Oh god, this coffee is pushing my heart in my throat |
| 22:35.22 | drom | and it smells like diesel |
| 22:35.26 | Wormy_ | drom: On my computer science masters they are basically trying to fit three year undergrad in one semester. So I have a full day of lectures every day and several submissions every week |
| 22:35.38 | Wormy_ | I need a coffee like that |
| 22:36.56 | drom | Wormy_: Do they post the lectures and course material online? |
| 22:37.06 | Wormy_ | Algorithms, data structures, relational database engineering, networks at 5 different levels of abstraction and systems |
| 22:37.17 | Wormy_ | Yes, and recorerded lectures. But they aren't reliable |
| 22:37.30 | drom | If yes, consider reading them at home instead. Or this doesn't help, try discussing with your mates. If any. |
| 22:37.34 | Wormy_ | Since they don't cover the whiteboard and sometimes glitch |
| 22:37.41 | drom | Or if this* |
| 22:37.52 | Wormy_ | Yeah, we all try to work together |
| 22:38.22 | drom | Huh, tough luck. Our electrics theorem is basically the lecturer face-timing themselves while displaying a PDF file onscreen. |
| 22:38.55 | drom | Those physics formulas are driving me nuts |
| 22:39.00 | drom | But this goddamned mathematics |
| 22:39.03 | Wormy_ | Next semester, hopefully I survive that far, I can specialise in more funky subjects, I've chosen simulation/agent based modelling, computability and info visualisation |
| 22:39.07 | drom | is even driving me more nuts |
| 22:39.59 | Wormy_ | There's been some physics and maths on mine too. We looked at signals and signal to noise ratio |
| 22:40.18 | Wormy_ | in wires and EM communications |
| 22:40.26 | drom | All my friends I know from my computer engineering programme, they had failed the maths final as well. So we are trying to support each other and discuss about the bullshit exminators test ourselves on |
| 22:40.30 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:X8-95#Variants_and_modifications - A few new things |
| 22:40.38 | DrodoEmpire | Including a DMR for the Drodo (finally) |
| 22:40.42 | Wormy_ | Actually I must say the subject I've enjoyed most is networks so far |
| 22:40.50 | drom | Ah, nice. |
| 22:41.03 | drom | Hardware or Software? |
| 22:41.10 | Wormy_ | We look at both levels |
| 22:41.16 | drom | Ah nice. |
| 22:41.24 | drom | Networking is fun - sometimes. |
| 22:41.34 | drom | But hardware bit is certainly the most fun bit of it, imo. |
| 22:41.34 | NeonPanda | DrodoEmpire: Fordanta - git u a gun that can do both |
| 22:41.40 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 22:42.15 | Wormy_ | I enjoyed learning about network topologies and the modelling layers of abstraction into sending data |
| 22:42.25 | drom | Why? Because networking has neat tools that are almost like childhood toys |
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| 22:42.55 | Wormy_ | You can semi-autonomous levels working in unison which reminded me of multiple levels of causality in systems science and complexity |
| 22:43.08 | NeonPanda | but seriously Fordanta mostly prioritise tactical flexibility in their weapons, the most notable exception being the rifles used by Hunter teams |
| 22:43.26 | drom | This coffee is making the text less readable, goddamn |
| 22:43.46 | NeonPanda | so their plasma casters for example are designed to be calibrated along multiple axes to change its role mid-battle |
| 22:43.56 | drom | Wormy_: Specially these one. http://www.dontscrapit.com/Illinois-/Network-phone-cable-tester-tracer-tone-generator-probe-partpic.jpg |
| 22:44.28 | Wormy_ | We don't get to play with those unfortunately |
| 22:44.36 | drom | I used it to test why a network cable was working so terribly |
| 22:44.39 | Wormy_ | I did get to ecamine some optical fibers tho |
| 22:44.46 | drom | Ah, nice. |
| 22:45.17 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.29 | Wormy_ | One of the subjects I like in networks is exponential backoff |
| 22:45.41 | drom | lecturer, ye? |
| 22:45.53 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 22:46.03 | DrodoEmpire | NeonPanda: Fair enough |
| 22:47.20 | drom | It was nice talking, but I think it is getting too late and the coffee should, hopefully worn off enough to allow me to sleep |
| 22:47.37 | Wormy_ | Lemme just post this for your reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_backoff |
| 22:47.48 | drom | Originally I came one to talk about some fluff for the Kurinnurii Technocracy but oh well. |
| 22:47.59 | Wormy_ | Quite an interesting topic to me about how hosts avoid collisions of data |
| 22:48.49 | drom | Laters! |
| 22:48.56 | Wormy_ | night |
| 22:49.38 | Wormy_ | He comes into this from a hardware perspective, I'm learning from a software perspective |
| 22:53.40 | Wormy_ | Better get back to trying to make sense of this assignment |
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| 23:03.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 23:09.01 | Tek0516 | It's cold, windy and still snowing. Winter greeted us this year by giving us the finger. |
| 23:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 23:11.22 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Winter_of_Discontent#Words_of_Ice more things |
| 23:12.31 | Xho | It's probably the most humane thing that'll ever come out of fiction from me |
| 23:13.22 | DrodoEmpire | huh |
| 23:15.35 | DrodoEmpire | Reading now |
| 23:17.17 | Hachiman | Ooh nice |
| 23:17.24 | Hachiman | So Arcturus really is taking charge |
| 23:17.40 | Hachiman | needs mor dorfs tho |
| 23:18.41 | OluapPlayer | I thought that was Maximilianus for a second |
| 23:18.47 | OluapPlayer | Maximilianus - bitch i aint your son |
| 23:18.49 | Hachiman | Yeah same hur |
| 23:19.00 | Xho | Arcturus - hao but u fuk off wolfboy |
| 23:19.03 | Hachiman | Oh wait, at this point, Hathgar and Eirik would be within the Sovereignty with the old Goldhawks |
| 23:19.18 | Hachiman | Unless this fic carries on into the New Year |
| 23:19.45 | Xho | It goes through all of the winter |
| 23:20.27 | Hachiman | Right, so from Tempest's Apex to Ascending Frost |
| 23:29.11 | Hachiman | Hm I think I might want a fancier name for the Khargrim Realm |
| 23:29.18 | Hachiman | Before I make the page |
| 23:31.41 | Monet | OKay. |
| 23:31.47 | Monet | What sort of government does it have? |
| 23:33.30 | tcm | what's its philosophy like |
| 23:36.23 | Hachiman | Constitutional monarchy; the Lord-Thane fills the role of the monarch and is inherited through the eldest children of the ruling clan, with cities and settlements outside of Khargrimhold, their capital, being ruled over by thanes - who again inherit the position |
| 23:37.52 | Monet | "Kargrim COllected Thaneships" perhaps? |
| 23:38.19 | Hachiman | Hm could work |
| 23:38.56 | Monet | Or Thanedoms rather than thaneships. Depends how autonomous the thanes are. |
| 23:39.17 | Hachiman | They're rather autonomous I would say |
| 23:40.27 | tcm | just tack a "high" on there |
| 23:40.31 | tcm | high realm of khargrim |
| 23:40.35 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 23:42.22 | Monet | "Greatholds" could be another element |
| 23:43.11 | Hachiman | High Realm of Khargrim Greatholds? |
| 23:43.35 | tcm | bit of a mouthful |
| 23:43.42 | Hachiman | Eh doesn't roll off the tongue well |
| 23:44.47 | Monet | Does 'high realm' suit them'? |
| 23:44.54 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 23:45.01 | Hachiman | I did consider ditching 'realm' and freeing it up |
| 23:45.12 | Monet | I know they have a high-thane but 'high X' sounds more...elvish. |
| 23:47.30 | Monet | Collected Khargrim Greatholds? |
| 23:48.39 | Wormy_ | Xho http://imgur.com/gallery/sLakz |
| 23:48.52 | Hachiman | The ruling clans pay tithes to the Lord-Thane through taxes collected from the denizen families residing in the cities they reign over and are mostly known to export ore, military equipment, and occasionally soldiers and warriors between one another, to Khargrimhold, and to their allies; philosophy-wise, I'd consider them industrialist traders with emphasised aspects of militarism and expansionism |
| 23:48.58 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_ Holy shit |
| 23:49.02 | Xho | Wormy_: "Damn that's at least 7" |
| 23:49.13 | tcm | imo just khargrim greatholds is fine |
| 23:49.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Interesting |
| 23:49.34 | Wormy_ | Funny how the Midlands are a particularly dense cluste |
| 23:49.36 | DrodoEmpire | If I'm understanding correctly it sounds a bit like the Ming Dynasty system |
| 23:49.44 | Hachiman | You'll have to explain that |
| 23:50.07 | DrodoEmpire | Well, as far as I understand it the population of the Ming were divided in to clan groups of... I think a few hundred each |
| 23:50.52 | DrodoEmpire | Basically these clans would pay a collective tax instead of each individual or even individual families (husband, wife, and children) paying |
| 23:51.07 | Hachiman | Right, yeah that's what I envisioned |
| 23:51.08 | DrodoEmpire | They'd also be used in other administrative functions like raising levies, etc. |
| 23:51.14 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 23:51.51 | DrodoEmpire | So I take it the Khargrim have a fairly sophisticated administration to establish that in the first place? |
| 23:52.15 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Hea5v |
| 23:52.26 | Hachiman | I'd say so; I haven't put *too* much thought into that area, however |
| 23:52.52 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
| 23:54.18 | tcm | rip coffee spider |
| 23:54.26 | Hachiman | Basically, it goes; non-ruling clans pay tithes to thane clans, thane clans proceed to pay tithes to the monarchic clan at Khargrimhold, the monarchic clan allows the thane clans a relative amount of autonomy and responsibility over their cities |
| 23:57.28 | Hachiman | Of course realistically it's probably a fair bit more complicated than that but I prefer not to delve into the inner-workings of economy and financial administration |
| 23:57.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 23:57.52 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's definitely manageable, nevermind |
| 23:59.39 | Hachiman | If you have suggestions about how to expand on that, then I'm open to it, but I personally can't be bothered to research stuff regarding finance by myself |
