IRC log for #sporewiki on 20161119

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00:08.01Wormy_laptopEffing Windows, forcing updates on my computer and taking ages
00:08.29Charles_BotIn the interests of security
00:08.56Wormy_laptopThey should not be allowed to force updates 1) they own Windows, not my hardware 2) people need to work with their computers
00:09.30MonetWindows 10 can be set to prompt you that you need to restart to update
00:09.37The_Randomness^
00:09.45Wormy_laptopDidn't give me the option
00:09.56MonetNot in the settings menu?
00:10.12Wormy_laptopAlready set
00:10.46Wormy_laptopIt just said "Your computer needs to update now, restart"
00:13.09Wormy_laptopAs for security, thats fine, but it should still give people time.  And I know of no other operating system that does this so aggressively as Microsoft Windows
00:18.23The_RandomnessI use Windows 10, can't say I've had that issue
00:18.36The_RandomnessSo, I can't really say anything
00:19.09Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15027629_1132687846808385_2529826984010456786_n.jpg?oh=2d3e80aafe179a93ffcf9e9ac940e06f&oe=588A7573 Holy shit how does Ubisoft fuck up this badly
00:19.26HachimanThe bottom image is supposed to be from the remastered version of Assassin's Creed 2
00:19.52MonetSOurce plz
00:20.11Wormy_laptopRandom:  Never had this issue before either, but looking it up, yes Windows will now force updates on people
00:20.34NeonPandaHachiman: it's Ubisoft, why are you surprised they monkeyed up?
00:21.11MonetI dunno it looks like it might be joke.
00:21.34HachimanIt's not; I'm gonna scour for the source, but according to the comments of the post I got this from, it's from the Xbone version
00:26.15MonetA later article by Polygon suggests the problems they encountered were mostly an isolated incident
00:26.39The_RandomnessMonet: But that's no good for internet points!
00:27.33MonetThey tried on a second Xbox, Ezio ran more fluidly and that...guy looked like this https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7497487/Pasted_image_at_2016_11_17_03_49_PM.png
00:27.36Hachimanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmnJvv-peF4
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00:29.55HachimanOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmnJvv-peF4 Almost as good as CrowbCat's videos
00:30.41Monethttps://youtu.be/bwXuPwVavi0?t=1m38s Weird-Eye Guy isn't in this run.
00:31.39OluapPlayerHachiman: That fucking guy at 1:14
00:31.44HachimanAye hur
00:31.49OluapPlayerHe's like that botchered portrait of Jesus
00:32.01Hachimanolol
00:32.21HachimanNonetheless, whether that guy is in that scene or not, AC2: Remastered is a fucking disaster
00:33.37MonetI jsut gave you a counter-video where the frea kwas gone
00:33.55HachimanAnd I gave you a video where Ezio climbs like a fucking spider monkey
00:34.22Monethttp://www.polygon.com/2016/11/17/13670084/assassins-creed-2-remaster-xbox-one-comparison-weird here's what I was reading
00:34.51MonetThere's an 'update' segment
00:35.23MonetThis is my problem with finger-on-the-pulse journalism. It leaves no time to give a full investigation.
00:37.35NeonPandato be fair, spider monkeys are pretty good climbers
00:38.02HachimanYes but humans are not spider monkeys, no matter how much blood from whatever ancient human precursors they have
00:38.18OluapPlayerspider monkeys are just monkeys you should kill with fire
00:38.37MonetIt can't be a complete disaster - the game doesn't look as muddy as the original for one.
00:39.20MonetA complete disaster is the missing face epidemic in Assassin's Creed Unity.
00:39.23NeonPandaalso y u makin Monet think about renaissance italy when he's meant to be thinking about pirates
00:40.37HachimanTrue
00:40.44HachimanGod I wish I had played Black Flag
00:42.05MonetYou missed out when you could have been singing Blow the Man Down or Farewell Spanish Maidens with your crew.
01:24.14Wormy_laptopFinally I AHVE MY COMPUTER BACK
01:24.18Wormy_laptopSorry, caps
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02:04.01The_RandomnessAlright, I think I've recovered from my dinner taking revenge on me
02:04.30The_Randomnessspent like 45 minutes almost falling asleep
02:08.08NeonPandaheh
02:08.42Wormy_Leicester's fantastic attempt at decorating a Christmas Tree r http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/BD9C/production/_92504584_naff_tree.jpg
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04:27.44The_RandomnessTIL November 19th is World Toilet Day https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Toilet_Day
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10:36.00dino82_hi
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10:46.44Wormy_hi
10:49.41dino82_hi
11:08.18dino82_recoverd from graduation party?
11:13.41Wormy_Yeah, got loads of leftover curry
11:17.17dino82_:D
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11:23.37dino82_hi
11:31.14Wormy_double doh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgat2r8n5v4&index=3
11:31.16Wormy_hi
11:31.30Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYUbroYI_SY&list=PLB1BB83542F53977E&index=2
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11:35.36Monethello
11:35.38Wormy_Monet: http://i.imgur.com/sytSfq4.jpg
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22:32.45MonetI don't know who this woman is and frankly I don't care
22:33.02Hachiman>Britain First
22:33.05HachimanFucking hell Imp
22:33.45ImpyDroid2Right so I take this is a pretty radical organisation
22:34.13HachimanYes, very much so
22:34.21MonetThey make the BNP look lenient
22:35.27Monet<PROTECTED>
22:35.37Monetsorry
22:35.46MonetThey're the ones who shouted "death to traitors"
22:36.01ImpyDroid2While shouting then
22:36.20MonetThis is how much they make my blood boil.
22:36.36Technobliteratorbasically, a neonazi party
22:36.50Technobliteratorthey don't even try to hide it
22:37.03MonetI'd call for them ot take a dive in the north sea but I have relatives who live on the Yorkshire coast and I don't want the fish to die from their toxic blood.
22:37.08ImpyDroid2So something on the level of Golden Dawn
22:37.13Technobliteratorhahaha
22:39.08MonetI approve of fredom of speech and freedom of scrutiny but frankly the less attention they can get the better.
22:40.47ImpyDroid2Basically I have one parody video in mind and I am looking for some prominent British nationalist leaders
22:41.14ImpyDroid2For whom it would make sense to spout something hateful
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22:50.26ImpyDroid2And speaking of which
22:50.41ImpyDroid2Hachiman Xho OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=OAquWbTDs84 Daily life in the Empire of Man
22:56.39Technobliteratoroh my fucking god
22:57.12Technobliteratorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmnJvv-peF4&feature=share how did Ubisoft manage to screw up Assassin's Creed II this badly
22:57.17TechnobliteratorLike, I don't understand
23:00.34HachimanI said this yesterday and got badmouthed hur
23:00.53TechnobliteratorI mean, it's very apparent that this is bad
23:01.07Technobliteratorthe lighting is completely fucked up, the climbing is fucked up, and that face
23:01.07Technobliteratorugh
23:01.16MonetYou got badmouthed because Polygon realised it didn't apply to all Xboxs
23:01.48TechnobliteratorEven if it doesn't apply to all Xboxes, it shouldn't apply to any Xboxes
23:04.00MonetLook on the bright side, maybe UbiSoft will investigate the glitch. (small maybe but whatever)
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23:04.39ZF101What up y'all.
23:05.58MonetThis knee-jerk bullshit is exhausting. That random dude isn't even a game-breaker
23:08.01TechnobliteratorKnee-jerk bullshit? Monet, someone paid $60 to get a "remastered" version that is a worse version of the game that came out a decade ago
23:08.25TechnobliteratorEven if it only affects a small number of customers, those customers all got conned
23:09.03MonetIt's knee-jerk bullshit because Polygon released an article then less than 24 hours later they realised, from trying to replicate the glitch on another console, that it's not as pervasive as they though
23:09.50TechnobliteratorIt's a glitch that shouldn't be in the game, and wasn't in the original
23:09.58TechnobliteratorAnd someone got conned $60 because of it
23:10.06MonetCan you find anyone else reporting it?
23:10.41MonetOh they got conned because *one scene* was ruined for them.
23:10.56TechnobliteratorYes, they did get conned because the game is broken
23:11.32TechnobliteratorIt's not just a face glitch
23:11.44TechnobliteratorIt's the lighting being bad, it's the climbing being glitched
23:11.44MonetThe spider-Ezio glitch as well?
23:12.04Technobliteratorthey got a worse version of a game that came out a decade ago for full price
23:12.06MonetThe climing was also tested to not be all-pervasive
23:12.16TechnobliteratorA game that easily costs much less than $60 now
23:12.23TechnobliteratorHow is that not being conned?
23:12.44MonetBecause it's making a mountain out of a molehill?
23:12.45The_RandomnessWhy are you trying so hard to shit all over this?
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23:14.02TechnobliteratorWhy are you trying so hard to defend a company conning people out of their money?
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23:14.24TechnobliteratorYou don't sell worse versions of a decade old game for full price, that's just completely unethical
23:14.51MonetBecause I have investigated into how fucking hard it is to make a flawless, bug-free product.
23:15.07MonetYou're accusing Ubisoft of conning when Bethesda does this all. The bloody .time
23:15.46TechnobliteratorI was not discussing Bethesda
23:15.50TechnobliteratorI am not fans of Bethesda either
23:16.27TechnobliteratorIt's not to do with the bugs, it's bugs that didn't exist in the original version of the game
23:16.44MonetApparently the climbing one did.
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23:16.56MonetIt was just rare
23:16.57TechnobliteratorThey made a worse version of a decade old game, a game that could easily be bought for much cheaper everywhere else, and charged full price for it
23:17.21TechnobliteratorI would say yes, that is conning people out of their money, and we shouldn't just be accepting this from developers
23:17.30TechnobliteratorBecause they'll just keep doing it and keep getting away with it
23:17.34MonetI prefer the lighting of the remaster.
23:17.49MonetThe original was very brown and coffee-stained
23:17.54Zillafire101Hey Cyrannian, where was that edit you needed?
23:17.57TechnobliteratorWhich was the whole point
23:18.05TechnobliteratorIt was supposed to have less color contrast
23:18.13Zillafire101Nevermind.
23:19.05CyrannianIf anyone wants to add themselves to the final battle of the Neraida War, you can add yourself here, otherwise you can use the page when it's up: https://titanpad.com/44gNYT4NXN
23:19.19MonetNow you're defending low-contrast lighting?
23:19.54TechnobliteratorI am defending the art direction of the original game, which was very deliberate
23:20.29MonetSource?
23:21.06MonetIn fact don't bother, I don't know why I'm arguing
23:21.35MonetIf you think that Ubisoft are dirty con-artist who should all be put in jail for fradulent advertising, go ahead.
23:21.39MonetI no longer care
23:22.57MonetGame developers and publishers get nothing but hate and fire and spite for something they spend years on battling budgets, sleep and tight deadlines.
23:27.16MonetI'm done with consumer toxicity, I'm done with negativity I am fucking DONE with probably one of the most entitled consumer markets in the modern world.
23:28.11TechnobliteratorDid I once call for jailing them?
23:28.56TechnobliteratorI think it's extremely and abundantly clear that I was expressing frustration at a publisher releasing a worse version of a decade old game at a higher price than you can still get said game
23:30.15MonetI said I'm done.
23:30.33MonetI don't want to beat my head against a wall anymore.
23:30.43TechnobliteratorTo call people entitled for wanting to get their money's worth is extremely dismissive, as is implying that developers and publishers who genuinely do put hours of work and passion into really good games deserve as much money as people who rehash an old game and can't make it as good as when it came out
23:31.14TechnobliteratorWell, if you're done, say that, rather than call me a member of "one of the most entitled consumer markets in the modern world"
23:33.26MonetI wasn't just referring to this one incident
23:34.13TechnobliteratorI was
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23:37.44MonetThis knee-jerk clickbait press is making me ill.

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