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00:39.36DrodoEmpireHi every-
00:39.38DrodoEmpireJesus
00:39.41DrodoEmpireWhere is everybody?
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01:56.57DrodoEmpireHi
02:20.31Monethi
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04:10.18Wormy_ugh woke up at 4 in the morning with a awful sore throat
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08:09.50NeonPandaI was intrigued for a moment that the Professor Predictor (aka that guy who's correctly predicted every presidency for decades) predicted a Trump impeachment, but turns out it wasn't based on his system, it was just instinct
08:10.07NeonPandalike if his method of statements had indicated an impeachment I'd be interested to see how
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10:01.15NeonPandahi, brb
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10:07.35GhelaeHello.
11:23.49NeonPanday'know, work on the not!Magmar has made me think of a few things
11:24.07NeonPandanamely, how normal people would react to a regenerating, lightning-spitting, talking dinosaur rocking up and saying hi
11:24.20NeonPandaI generally imagine, "poorly"
11:42.58GhelaePobably. The regenerating part wouldn't normally be immediately obvious, though. And I personally would react poorly to anybody spitting lightning while saying "hi", because that's a rather impolite thing to do during such a friendly greeting.
11:44.01NeonPandaI would generally agree
11:45.36NeonPandaso the current tl;dr is that they used to be a dominant civilisation in the Slumbering Lands, making use of their sorta-immortality and the inherent mutability of their form to adapt to whatever was going on
11:46.22NeonPandanormally they basically adapted Spore-style, as in when they regenerate after death they subconsciously alter their bodies to better suit what's going on, but they're also capable of things like rampant growth under duress
11:47.06NeonPandashenanigans that may or may not have involved a certain colossus of fire drove them underground where they've been since then, and now they've basically just woken back up again and sent a guy out to explore
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11:47.58NeonPandahi u
11:48.34NeonPandacompletely unrelated note, that happy moment when literally everyone in the D&D party has the same hit chance on their attacks
11:49.13NeonPandamakes planning what to try to kill them with *cough* I mean enemies to put in their way, an easier task
11:49.26OluapPlayerHi
12:17.16NeonPandaOluapPlayer: reskinning small air elementals as magical guardians for a graveyard that have been upset by the presence of bandits
12:17.38OluapPlayerI see
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14:36.18HachimanHi
14:39.38Tek0516Quiet this week
15:04.32NeonPanda"I didn't see the ball." - "You didn't see the ten-metre diameter giant glowing ball of doom, which is labelled 'BALL OF DEATH' in the map creator?" - "Yes."
15:04.39NeonPandapeople talking about Halo custom games
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16:42.55Charles_BotHey
16:45.03Tek0516Hey
17:02.35Tek0516...well that's a new problem. The wifi disappeared on my laptop
17:03.08Tek0516As in literally disappeared.
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17:31.42dino82_hi
17:37.18OluapPlayerHi
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17:47.15WormydroidHi
17:47.46WormydroidI feel poorly today
17:57.24dino82_hi
17:57.27dino82_me too
17:57.36dino82_how so wormy?
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18:06.42ImpyDroidWormydroid: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/16/lord-nigel-farage-theresa-may-declines-to-rule-out-peerage-for-ukip-leader "Now, Lord Farage, go and bring peace to the Kingdom."
18:06.57ImpyDroidLord Farage, that sounds like a Sith name
18:18.25dino82_sound dark adn dangerous a name :d
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18:25.58WormydroidImpyDroid can't barrage the Farage
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18:29.13WormydroidImperios can't barrage the Farage
18:29.34Imperioskek
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18:34.38WormydroidImperios check out Jonathan Pie https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
18:34.53WormydroidImpyDroid
18:38.12OluapPlayerspu
18:38.53Xhoack
18:41.07ImperiosWormydroid: Western powers that be let the right radicalise for too long, that's what I think
18:41.44ImperiosIf you brand the moderate right as literal Nazis as shut them up, they get pissed and mingle with worse crowds, and cease being moderates
18:41.58Imperios*and
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18:43.13ImperiosWormydroid_: Gotta agree with him, the reason people like Trump or le Pen are on the rise is because the right wing was driven away from rational discourse and shut up for too long
18:43.28ImperiosSo they radicalised
18:46.09Wormydroid_Yeah
18:47.00Wormydroid_And also, if the left fail to discuss andcdebate hese issues honestly, then it leaves a vacuum for the Right
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18:51.08Tek0516I'm really pissed off about this one programming assignment. We did everything the assignment wanted, but we lost 15% on it for not doing something that was never stated anywhere in the requirements.
18:51.45Wormydroid_Was it an optimisation thing they wanted?
18:52.30Wormydroid_In my submissions I get a higher mark for more elegant code that doesn't use redundancy
18:53.56Tek0516Wormydroid_: The assignment wanted a GUI for the program. No specifications besides that and being able to control the simulation with it. I made this nice, clean list-based representation of the data. We lost marks because it wasn't some fancy graph.
18:54.20Wormydroid_Still, I'd take that up with someone higher than your tutors, that their criteria are unclear and you feel disadvantaged
18:55.09Tek0516Oh, I am. It was an otherwise perfect grade on the assignment and they never requested graphs anywhere.
18:56.46Wormydroid_Yeah, good luck
18:58.09Tek0516https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/U2bHkhgv
18:58.30Tek0516Wormydroid_: Here's the exact wording it uses. If anything I'd say it it implies we don't need graphs. >.>
18:59.11ImperiosXho: https://pp.vk.me/c837522/v837522977/c7a/pG6HRPjYUq0.jpg "Romans are defeated by Germans in the Teutoburg Forest"
18:59.33Wormydroid_"were not expecting anything fancy"
18:59.55Tek0516Exactly
19:00.17Wormydroid_That is maddening, as long as your list based repbis functional, as it says, it should get a good mark
19:00.29Wormydroid_Yrah definitely take that up
19:01.11OluapPlayerImperios: I'm watching the mission transitions from Warcraft 1 and 2
19:01.23OluapPlayerThey're spelling Sargeras as "Sarj-ras"
19:01.40Wormydroid_My Database module can be a bit vague like that where we're asked to do one thing while something else was expected
19:01.58ImperiosOluapPlayer: He was not even the demon boss back then
19:02.37Wormydroid_Worse the examples shown in a lecture we were later told were wrong, bad examples, meaning many of us lost marks from using it as resource material
19:02.50OluapPlayerIt's interesting though, a lot of the setting is still relevant in WoW
19:03.19OluapPlayerThough it made me notice how there's been no mention of Kul Tiras since WC3
19:03.51Tek0516Wormydroid_: on my database course's last assignment they had to update the slides at least twice to update wrong of missing content.
19:04.39Tek0516Also in my database course they had handed me back a midterm that they hadn't even finished marking. >.>
19:05.58Wormydroid_<PROTECTED>
19:07.12Wormydroid_But we get long 2 hour lectures between 4 and 6 that are quite drawn out
19:08.03Tek0516My database lecturer is almost painfully mind-numbing. I'm not sure if it's the monotone voice, thick accent, or what exactly but I can't even force myself to listen to the guy talk.
19:08.25OluapPlayerI didn't know Deathwing was involved in WC2
19:08.36OluapPlayerI knew Alextrasza was but not him
19:11.50Wormydroid_Databases must be universally fun!
19:12.31ImperiosHe was pulling some strings
19:12.54ImperiosBasically he gave the orcs his magic dick that allowed them to dominate Alexstaszha
19:12.57Imperios*magic disk
19:13.05Imperios*Alexstrasza
19:13.14ImperiosWhy does she have a Polish have
19:13.17ImperiosAlexstaSZa
19:13.20Wormydroid_I really like the networking module though
19:13.21ImperiosOr Hungarian
19:13.24ImperiosFucking Hungarian dragons
19:13.44OluapPlayerAlso Grom was there
19:13.45Wormydroid_Seems to have grown on me
19:13.46OluapPlayerDidn't know that
19:21.48ImperiosXho: So I named  my Latin homework file "Ancient Pasta language"
19:27.49Tek0516Wormydroid_: Problem is that the content interests me, I just can't even try to listen to the lectures
19:28.16Tek0516I do most of my learning by reading the slides afterwards.
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19:43.11Wormy_hi
19:43.57Wormy_Tek0516: do you ever dream in code? I'm getting pretty fed up of it, as they never feel restful
19:44.04Tek0516O.O my library has this "gaming lab" you can book time for playing games in, I think it even has VR.
19:44.26Tek0516Or at least, someone is using VR in it so they must have it.
19:45.18Wormy_There was a VR thing at the start of the year where you could contrl the outcome of the story using the interfacem wish I went to it
19:47.31Tek0516I did this one PlayStation VR demo a few weeks ago. It was a maybe 10 minute thing but the whole thing was just... Woah.
19:47.57dino82_neat
19:49.08Tek0516I've heard people say before that describing the VR experience is hard, and I totally understand it after that.
19:52.33Wormy_would love to play a space sim in VR
19:54.07Tek0516The closest I know of right now is the VR for Elite Dangerous.
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19:59.16HachimanXho: https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ZtrsGbxOZuD1NT2/giphy.gif
19:59.20HachimanAlso hi everyone
19:59.21DrodoEmpireHi everyone
20:05.11Tek0516https://youtu.be/vVeQV1sWLJg
20:05.26Tek0516Hey DrodoEmpire
20:05.34DrodoEmpireHey
20:06.06DrodoEmpireWatching Lindybeige's new video
20:06.32DrodoEmpireI never really thought of Halberds as formation weapons for whatever reason... but now that I think about it it makes sense
20:06.43dino82_hi
20:06.50DrodoEmpireIt also makes sense that they were, first and foremost- stabbing weapons
20:12.27DrodoEmpireWith that in mind, I might diversify the Halifaxian polearms a bit, seeing as how I said that Halifaxian pikemen trade in their pikes on occasion for a halberd
20:12.46DrodoEmpireMaybe they also use pollaxes, bills, etc.
20:13.04DrodoEmpireSomewhat shorter weapons
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20:16.39TybusenHello
20:16.46DrodoEmpireHi
20:19.42dino82_hi
20:21.36Imperioshi
20:22.11ImperiosDrodoEmpire: Been wondering
20:22.19DrodoEmpireYep?
20:22.24ImperiosAre Halifaxian Drodo, biologically, the same as space Drodo?
20:22.27ImperiosI.e anteater people
20:22.36ImperiosOr are they something else altogether?
20:22.45DrodoEmpireThey aren't anteater people >:
20:22.50DrodoEmpireBut yes they're essentially the same
20:23.08DrodoEmpireBecause I'm an uncreative twat <.<
20:23.23ImperiosCan't think of any other mammals with snouts or probcosi
20:23.32ImperiosOther than elephants but Drodo are too small to be elephant people
20:23.38DrodoEmpireFair enough
20:23.43ImperiosAnd these animals whose english names I cannot remember
20:24.03ImperiosAardvarks
20:24.05ImperiosThat's it
20:24.21DrodoEmpireRite
20:24.32OluapPlayerdraardo
20:24.37DrodoEmpire<.<
20:25.20DrodoEmpireAnyway, yeah I think the Halifaxians, in like colonial or close-quarters settings may use shorter polearms in general
20:25.31DrodoEmpirePikes are useful in pitched, formation battles and that's really it
20:25.51DrodoEmpireIn woodland brawls of a couple hundred people you'd much sooner have a bill :p
20:27.44TybusenThere's nothing stopping the Drodo from being elephant people, they could just be really tiny elephants
20:27.57DrodoEmpireHur nah
20:28.11DrodoEmpireThey have no direct inspiration from any Earth animal I can't say
20:28.20DrodoEmpire*I can say even
20:30.01Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15095001_1137957659586362_4025271668583947410_n.jpg?oh=882cef11b18547912fa84a3bf4cb5c93&oe=58D4918C
20:30.11ImperiosI am not even sure why I call Radeons rats by the way
20:30.14ImperiosThey look more like cats
20:30.23DrodoEmpireHachi: <.<
20:30.47ImperiosHachiman: #liberals
20:31.02TybusenImperios: Older Radeon were rat-like though
20:31.18ImperiosTybusen: They also had huge tails and sucker feet
20:31.29ImperiosTheir long tails made them look like... dunno... beavers?
20:34.35TybusenFunny, I just made a new beaver-like species for the GSC
20:34.59OluapPlayerRadeon still look like rat people to me
20:35.10TybusenWell actually they're kind of beavers with a little bit of woodcutter ant
20:37.47TybusenThe in-game empire that these beaver guys correspond to was actually a Radeon empire, funny enough
20:38.59ImperiosNow I remembered, them being rat people was a nod to Dune
20:43.31Tybusenhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7c/Valaro_GSC.png/revision/latest?cb=20161116204254 Aforementioned new GSC species
20:46.17DrodoEmpireOh cool
20:46.36DrodoEmpireVery disinterested expression <.<
20:47.35TybusenThey're very serious people
20:47.41DrodoEmpireAhh
20:47.58dino82_neat!
20:48.12TybusenThey're meant to contrast with the Vulpar, who are loud, bright, cheery and fun-loving
20:48.40DrodoEmpireSo I see
20:48.43TybusenValaro are straightforward, serious, blunt, and more or less workaholics
20:49.12TybusenBasically supposed to be night and day
20:50.06TybusenWhich also shows up in their color schemes, though the Valaro blue was originally me thinking "I guess they're beavers and they're probably semi-aquatic, I guess being able to blend in with water is a good evolutionary trait?"
20:51.40TybusenAlso the Valaro are about the size of large beavers so by Fictionverse standards they're tiny
20:54.14DrodoEmpireYeah
21:17.24Tek0516http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/minority-report
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21:47.49dromAwh, Cyrannian is not here.
21:48.08dromBut yes hello, I primarily to share this gem: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150453370681950209/248559558723633162/14955969_1337596486274565_455189636417994574_n.jpg
21:48.36dromI came with the purpose of sharing*
21:52.47drompokes on Xho
22:06.05Xhobah
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22:06.12XhoDear god all the pings
22:06.15The_RandomnessHello
22:06.25XhoHi
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22:07.25XhoHachiman Technobliterator: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/something-about-something So I did something that wasn't complete nonsense although it ended up sounding like Tool
22:21.08dromTell me when you are available to talk with me about the war I mentioned a while ago.
22:21.45XhoNow would be a good time
22:25.14dromAh rite
22:26.21dromAlright. Kurinnurii versus Vranntans.
22:26.53XhoWhoever wins, the galaxy still loses kek
22:26.58dromAka the <inifinite number>th K-V war.
22:29.39dromXho: Contrast the wars waged between Denmark and Sweden
22:30.17Xhoø vs ö          who will win
22:30.51dromSwedes, obviously
22:31.06dromDenmark lost all its territories expect its own islands
22:31.24dromHachiman Xho: Unrelated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJd2bHwVnLE
22:31.28Xhosucks to be danmark
22:34.29dromBut what kind of ideas or gimmicks do you imagine or have in mind?
22:34.51XhoNot quite sure really
22:35.39dromFair enough.
22:39.15dromBut what brings them into war.. natural enemies?
22:39.31dromLike how they passionately hate mammalians and vice versa
22:41.07dromOr Vranntans' interest is to intrude the Kurinnurii's sovereignty so they can subjugate them
22:41.18XhoThe latter is likely
22:41.26dromLike how do at everyone else
22:42.31drom"Lack of intelligect" makes the war seemingly irredeemable for both sides.
22:46.09dromXho: Makes me want to draw the comparsion that the Vranntans are the orks, the Kurinnurii the dwarves
22:46.26XhoMaybe
22:46.30dromBecause, the one side is taller and stronger than the other, but the latter is more craft and robust.
22:46.37dromcrafty even
22:46.45XhoThe Vranntan aren't strategically stupid however
22:47.05dromSecondly they have a passionate natural hate of each other
22:47.51dromMay the orks be simple-minded in common fantasy fiction, but they had a plenty of strong successful leaders.
22:48.29dromSo your statement makes sense for me
22:51.32dromVranntans are physically superior and born natural warriors and cunning leaders. But their psyche limited by their own interest and eternal rage.
22:51.36dromAm I getting this right?
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22:53.01XhoThat's about it
22:53.16XhoThey are far from dense though otherwise they wouldn't be a warring superpower otherwise
22:54.21dromDecedant warrior lizards ermahgerd
22:58.56dromBut to summarize the Kurinnurii. They are physically average but very agile, often known for their natural ability of engineering and ability to solve problems. They are however limited to a type of rare, if not more common, biology. Fairly easy to outnumber and kill.
23:02.22dromThe Vranntan would definitely have an advantage over the Kurinnurii on ground combat.
23:05.07dromBut since naval combat plays a large role, specially in science fiction. I can't say much without tipping the balance.
23:05.37dromUnless you got suggestions or own input, Xho. I'd be happy to hear it!
23:05.54Xhorite
23:05.59XhoWell maybe later since I'm tired
23:08.05dromI am on the same boat as you, nigga.
23:08.14dromLet's share the bed.
23:08.53dromjk, have a good one
23:33.00MonetSo I had a brief look into the Warcraft Movie's background
23:33.24MonetBlizzard was approached by Uwe Boll for rights to the film.
23:33.41The_RandomnessWho's that?
23:34.06MonetA German film producer whose one of the big reasons why video game movies tend to suck.
23:34.22The_Randomnesslol
23:35.07MonetIn Germany a film can receive a heavy state incentive and if the film bombs then the producers don't have ot pay any of that money back.
23:36.01MonetSo Boll takes movies and makes them bomb intentionally so he gets money from the German government and a few million in ticket sales, all tax-free
23:36.48MonetBlizzard Entertainment said they would not sell the rights "especially to you"
23:39.43The_Randomnesslol
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23:46.43The_RandomnessMonet: man, talk about a sleazy thing to do
23:50.55Tek0516I found a longer version of the quote, Blizzard knew exactly what that guy would do: "We will not sell the movie rights, not to you… especially not to you. Because it's such a big online game success, maybe a bad movie would destroy that ongoing income, what the company has with it."
23:55.39Tek0516...I dug into the source of that quote and managed to get even more annoyed at the guy.
23:56.30Tek0516Monet The_Randomness: So this is what that guy thinks of gamers: "You go for it, to please the game fans, but on the other hand if you have the hard core gamers, they live in their own world. And you cannot fulfill their ideas from a video game based movie, it's impossible," Boll recently told MTV News. "And to be honest, the real gamers are the typical
23:56.30Tek0516download guys, right? They don't pay anything for movies, because they illegally download the movies. So why I should please these guys? I need the normal audience."
23:57.01The_Randomnesswow
23:57.07Tek0516Emphasis on the second half
23:57.19The_Randomnessfuck him x2
23:58.50Tek0516http://www.mtv.com/news/2429954/uwe-boll-wont-ever-be-entering-the-world-of-warcraft/ Source for both quotes. All the way from 2008 even

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