| 00:00.18 | DrodoEmpire | Might be a good idea yeah |
| 00:09.38 | Charles_Bot | Galactica's pre-2816 economic strengths were probably its banks, stock market, investment firms, and so on, acting as a vessel, destination, and coordinator for Xonexi investment and capital flowing into the NZ, and its lower classes were employed in service sector jobs |
| 00:10.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, okay |
| 00:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the Union's probably pretty different |
| 00:10.50 | Charles_Bot | After the closing of the Gorge, though, Galactica became a much riskier investment, and I'm afraid that capital flows into the NZ dried up significantly |
| 00:11.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yikes |
| 00:11.19 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, the Union would be hurt too definitely |
| 00:11.40 | Charles_Bot | Leading to much economic suffering in Galactica, and a flight/drying up of capital for projects elsewhere in the Zone |
| 00:11.55 | DrodoEmpire | Its trade lifeline would probably be near-crippled, but at the very least its agricultural basis is hardy enough |
| 00:12.36 | DrodoEmpire | The majority of its population being engaged in farming, mining, or secondary industry with a small number of now-unemployed merchants/businesspeople :p |
| 00:12.47 | Charles_Bot | ^ And unlike Galactica, its assets are tangible and productive as opposed to speculative |
| 00:12.52 | DrodoEmpire | True |
| 00:13.48 | Charles_Bot | So post-2816, NZ leaders are going to need to figure out how to put the NZ economy back together again |
| 00:14.15 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:14.29 | Charles_Bot | Another reason to hate the Gorge |
| 00:14.31 | Charles_Bot | XD |
| 00:14.40 | Charles_Bot | It ruined our economies |
| 00:15.00 | Charles_Bot | Hence Galactican nationalism |
| 00:16.15 | Tek0516 | Gran Colombia pre-2816 - Holy s***, this capitalism thing actually works |
| 00:16.39 | Charles_Bot | Gran Colombia post - FUCK ME |
| 00:18.26 | Tek0516 | I'm actually considerin now a sudden Rayenist resurgence in 2816 now, because the French Quadrants weren't having enough problems. :P |
| 00:18.39 | DrodoEmpire | Uh oh |
| 00:18.49 | Charles_Bot | France - FUCK ME |
| 00:19.26 | Tek0516 | I should probably write this Roreinia/Gran Colombia stuff in general I just still cannot seem to do character RPing. |
| 00:19.41 | Tek0516 | Or rather character writing in general |
| 00:20.22 | Charles_Bot | Gran Colombia might also have an agricultural and raw material basis |
| 00:20.29 | Charles_Bot | With a bit of energy |
| 00:20.30 | DrodoEmpire | Well, then the solution probably should be to practice character fics <., |
| 00:20.37 | DrodoEmpire | *<.< |
| 00:21.00 | Charles_Bot | While the Heer Stekeveel states are full-on andasium exporters |
| 00:21.19 | Charles_Bot | With one-dimensional economies, a lot of them |
| 00:21.58 | Charles_Bot | The question is |
| 00:23.15 | Charles_Bot | Would we go the route of trying to stabilize the NZ in order to woo investors back? Or do we go the transformative route and attempt to make it grow some other way? |
| 00:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 00:24.23 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno |
| 00:24.27 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire: it's likely that Xonexi would still be buying NZ products, it's just that growth will be much, much slower because investment is much more expensive and less forthcoming |
| 00:24.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, rigt |
| 00:25.52 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Eh, it's more I try to write character stuff and then just get... stuck. |
| 00:26.17 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire: What's the union's industry like? |
| 00:26.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'd ask for help or assistance, then. There're ways to get over that, definitely |
| 00:26.35 | DrodoEmpire | And character fics are just fun anyway |
| 00:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 00:26.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'll need to have a think, there |
| 00:31.37 | Tek0516 | i have all these paragaphs of introduction then I'm kind of stuck on the part where they actually speak. i'll probably need to retcon the dates forwards too. there's some France stuff in there so Charles_Bot should probably check that. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0oSuOrcT/Rayen+Civil+War |
| 00:33.28 | Charles_Bot | Gran Colombia is an independent state |
| 00:33.36 | Charles_Bot | (Just a note) |
| 00:34.27 | Charles_Bot | Very cool |
| 00:34.55 | Charles_Bot | It's compelling so far, clear, crisp, the narrative is going somewhere |
| 00:39.46 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire: *poke* |
| 00:40.15 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
| 00:41.05 | Charles_Bot | Any idea for the Union's industry? |
| 00:41.48 | DrodoEmpire | No |
| 00:41.53 | Charles_Bot | Alright |
| 00:42.12 | DrodoEmpire | When I said I'd need to give it a think, I meant I might only have an answer in like a day or something |
| 00:42.23 | Charles_Bot | Alright, apologies |
| 00:42.29 | Charles_Bot | I didn't know |
| 00:42.53 | Tek0516 | One of the key plot points I need to work on is the status of Aurelio Rayen. By now he biologically should be around 5 centuries old. He's officially still alive as President but hasn't been seen for at least decades, the Vice President acting according to his orders (not even directly given to the other clones). Whether or not he's alive has obvious |
| 00:42.53 | Tek0516 | repercussions on the war and Rayenism in general |
| 00:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | Charles: Its alright, sorry for that >.< |
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| 00:52.00 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire Tek0516 It might be that Galactica might petition the French imperial government to intervene to save the Galactican banks and bail out its economy, enabling it to continue financing the Neutrality Zone's economic growth, though a lot of wealth would have been irretrievably destroyed |
| 00:52.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 00:52.20 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe |
| 00:53.32 | Charles_Bot | Wait |
| 00:58.21 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, we'll probably have an economic hiccup in 2812 with the Hutter incursion, a slight slowdown in 2813 with the beginning of the Gorge, and a full-on catastrophic withdrawal in 2816 as Xonexi investors pull out their money, Galactican investment/commercial banks fail, everyone loses their stock investments, and capital sources dry up overnight, the |
| 00:58.21 | Charles_Bot | Galactican economy is sent reeling because its upper and middle classes are impoverished (or leave) overnight, leaving the poor dependent on them with no jobs |
| 00:58.49 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 00:59.08 | Charles_Bot | Also keep in mind that businesses have their stuff in the banks too |
| 01:00.35 | Charles_Bot | *economic implosion* |
| 01:01.43 | Charles_Bot | So uh |
| 01:01.52 | Charles_Bot | How do we fix it |
| 01:03.56 | DrodoEmpire | shrugs |
| 01:06.14 | Charles_Bot | Also France is probably also going to experience a major slowdown over an unrelated bubble, so demand for raw materials, energy and stuff from the French Empire is going to go down |
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| 01:09.35 | Charles_Bot | It might just be that the NZ might suffer economically for a few years before the French economy picks back up in 2818, a deal is signed with Rambo Nation, and so on, resulting in the return of capital and demand for stuff? |
| 01:11.53 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps. |
| 01:14.51 | Charles_Bot | In the meantime, the growing of a sizable military industry in Galactica to service its new military/growing navy/fortification efforts, financed by aid from the French Empire and Galactican government debt, might help ease the pain |
| 01:15.18 | Charles_Bot | Plus the bailing out of GalRep banks |
| 01:22.33 | Charles_Bot | Galacticans are getting the short end of this, essentially seeing their bankers bailed out, their employers and cosmopolitan elite and middle class leave, their jobs in services pretty much disappear, and the jobs of other NZ saved by the bank bailout |
| 01:23.38 | Charles_Bot | Other NZ states* |
| 01:51.43 | Tek0516 | Hm... I've had a few interesting ideas for details in my Roreinia plot I should use. |
| 02:02.49 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
| 02:06.06 | Charles_Bot | Hm? |
| 02:06.42 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/zW1B6 |
| 02:08.40 | DrodoEmpire | olololol |
| 02:17.00 | Charles_Bot | Lol |
| 02:26.41 | Tek0516 | There. I've actually written the first section. XD |
| 02:30.43 | Tek0516 | What to do next though... The next event chronologically I want some dispute on what/if it happened so maybe I'll just skip to the part where a few days later when the fighting actually breaks out. :P |
| 02:34.32 | Tek0516 | Then maybe we can try the attempt at a diplomatic RP I suggested once. I know Charles_Bot loves chances to try and make Human states bend to France's will. :P |
| 02:35.33 | Charles_Bot | France has no chips in this game doe |
| 02:36.52 | Charles_Bot | Except for the fact that it is in close proximity and would find itself on the front lines of managing a refugee crisis if Roreinia breaks down into civil war |
| 02:37.42 | Charles_Bot | In which case French Mirus (for economic reasons) or Gran Colombia (for social reasons) would gladly have them |
| 02:43.16 | Quark8 | test |
| 02:43.49 | Charles_Bot | A |
| 02:44.43 | Quark8 | ? |
| 03:02.23 | DrodoEmpire | That's your grade |
| 03:02.27 | DrodoEmpire | You took a test <.< |
| 03:02.36 | DrodoEmpire | But you got lucky this time-- study more! |
| 03:03.30 | Quark8 | That reminds of the grade I got on my science test. I was .04% off from getting an A+, because I forgot to write a word :( |
| 03:04.01 | Quark8 | But eh. |
| 03:04.52 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 03:06.16 | Quark8 | I *am* lucky though, considering the fact that I didn't study. |
| 03:10.21 | DrodoEmpire | Oh shit |
| 03:10.34 | DrodoEmpire | Caravan Palace put like all their music on their YT channel, apparently |
| 03:10.38 | DrodoEmpire | I missed that train o.O |
| 03:11.10 | DrodoEmpire | Like their entire first album and then some |
| 03:14.08 | Quark8 | Night. |
| 03:14.13 | DrodoEmpire | Night! |
| 03:14.32 | DrodoEmpire | Must've changed their mind on the whole "Let's get rid of every last bit of out music on Youtube" policy :p |
| 03:14.37 | DrodoEmpire | *of our |
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| 03:44.08 | NeonPanda | mostly about to pass out so don't expect coherent conversation from me |
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| 11:16.58 | dino82_ | hi |
| 11:22.39 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:27.14 | dino82_ | howz all doing! |
| 11:29.22 | Ghelae | I'm okay; how about you? |
| 11:37.22 | dino82_ | Greta as well! |
| 11:37.23 | dino82_ | Thanks |
| 11:37.28 | dino82_ | nice updats to the resistance! |
| 11:37.34 | dino82_ | Looking forward to see more of them in action :D |
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| 11:37.57 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:39.20 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:42.54 | dino82_ | hi |
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| 11:45.06 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 11:45.26 | Wormy_ | hey up |
| 11:50.42 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:51.38 | Wormy_ | I wonder how long cultural memories can last |
| 11:52.20 | Wormy_ | I suspect that memories that resemble archetypes in the human psyche last longer, and so while details might be lost, something may remain |
| 11:54.38 | Wormy_ | I was watching this doc where this tribe in Siberia recalled legends of mammoths; and these Aboriginal people in the Northern Australia who have legends of moving over the sea rather than being made with the land, but they of course made rock art. The former case could just be that modern ideas of mammoths crept into the Siberian's legends, which may or may not remember big hairy ice age animals |
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| 12:00.01 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:01.06 | Wormy_ | Found a list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_memory |
| 12:01.12 | NeonPanda | hi Monet |
| 12:01.38 | Wormy_ | "An Inuit string figure representing a large creature is identified with the extinct woolly mammoth" Bruemmer, Fred (1993). Arctic memories: living with the Inuit. Key Porter Books. p. 37. ISBN 1550134612. Retrieved 2015-06-24. |
| 12:01.45 | Wormy_ | I'll have to try an access that |
| 12:05.14 | Wormy_ | Ah I forget, the frozen mammoths people near the Arctic region found. |
| 12:07.35 | Ghelae | It's also like ideas that common mythemes represent features of palaeolithic stories which have been passed down over the millennia, the difference being that these folk memories are supposed to have been real events. |
| 12:12.19 | Wormy_ | Like ideas that try to trace the Great Flood to actual flooding events |
| 12:13.39 | Ghelae | Somewhat similar. |
| 12:14.03 | Ghelae | Those do count, too. |
| 12:16.42 | Wormy_ | What other mythemes do you have in mind? |
| 12:20.39 | Ghelae | There are ones like I've mentioned to you before, e.g. where a boy steals livestock from a monster (e.g. Polyphemus, Jack and the Beanstalk). |
| 12:21.41 | Ghelae | There are other common features of origin myths, e.g. theft of fire, slaying a serpent. |
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| 12:22.26 | Wormy_ | Ah yes, I remember |
| 12:22.31 | drom | Hello again |
| 12:22.44 | Ghelae | Although I don't think it's too controversial to trace these back to the Bronze Age or so, there are more extreme suggestions e.g. "Laurasian mythology" or Hamlet's Mill. |
| 12:22.49 | Ghelae | ~give drom a cookie |
| 12:22.50 | infobot | ACTION gives drom a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. |
| 12:23.01 | drom | Thanks, Ghelae. |
| 12:24.02 | drom | Anyway. I feel the urge to write a story, so I don't have to write massive text a-la "tell, not show". |
| 12:24.20 | Ghelae | Laurasian mythology is itself an idea that many myths can be traced back to an out-of-Africa event, and if that were actually true, it would answer your question of "how long cultural memories can last" with "an extremely long time". |
| 12:24.44 | Wormy_ | Yes, indeed |
| 12:25.30 | Ghelae | Coincidentally, I'm, currently looking through Hamlet's Mill, although more for its compilation of myths than its speculations as to their origins. |
| 12:28.35 | drom | But my problem is, I don't which one would be appropriate. |
| 12:28.41 | drom | Which story, I mean. |
| 12:29.20 | Wormy_ | I suppose, its not inconceivable, mythemes are essentially memes. Even if they were passed down orally for tens of thousands of years, if they are close to people's experiences then they become more mundane and easier to imagine, from which can be a basis for more knowledge. |
| 12:33.34 | Ghelae | drom: So you want to write a story, but don't know what it should be about? |
| 12:33.59 | drom | Yeah, that and it should be in Tuuros Galaxy |
| 12:34.17 | drom | Or elsewhere if any of the Tuurosans can get outside or what. |
| 12:34.21 | Wormy_ | Close to people's experiences - i.e. experiencing subsequent events that effected their lives |
| 12:41.16 | drom | Ghelae: I could ask Xho for a continuity of the Kurinnurii-Vranntan war. |
| 12:41.41 | Ghelae | Perhaps, although I don't think he'll be contributing to Tuuros fiction for a while. |
| 12:42.44 | drom | Mmhm |
| 12:42.49 | Ghelae | We could think of something to do involving the Arqorillan Renaissance instead. |
| 12:42.59 | drom | That and he is busy with life, can't drag him out. |
| 12:43.16 | drom | Perhaps. |
| 12:43.40 | drom | Considering that they never met with each other, it might be an opporunity. |
| 12:44.24 | Ghelae | One thing to consider, though, is that they are on nearly exactly opposite sides of the galaxy. |
| 12:45.44 | drom | science expeditation~ |
| 12:45.57 | drom | expedition even |
| 12:46.06 | Ghelae | Maybe. |
| 12:53.01 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator: New Jonathan Pie video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs |
| 12:53.02 | drom | sighs |
| 12:53.16 | drom | Why do I keep mistaking IRC with Discord? |
| 12:56.19 | Hachiman | Fucking what |
| 12:56.19 | Hachiman | How |
| 12:57.03 | drom | Discord is glorified IRC |
| 12:57.52 | drom | But yes. Everytime I read on Sporewiki. "Let's see if they had responded." -- Discord is the first I click on in my taskbar. |
| 13:27.19 | Wormy_ | new sci-fi film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeLsJfGmY_Y |
| 13:29.06 | Wormy_ | Finds strange alien lifeform that tracks his movement > pokes it with his bare hand. |
| 13:29.14 | Hachiman | It looks like standard Hollwyood schlock |
| 13:29.17 | Hachiman | Hollywood |
| 13:29.27 | Hachiman | Plus, it's clearly not a single cell organism |
| 13:29.56 | Wormy_ | Doesn't look like the next The Martian or Interstellar |
| 13:32.11 | Wormy_ | Actually he was wearing a crappy glove |
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| 13:32.46 | Monet | Yeah I'm going to agree with Hachi. |
| 13:32.47 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:33.10 | Monet | LIFE's premise looks a wee bit too much like Alien. |
| 13:33.25 | drom | The Thing IN THE SPAAAAAAACE |
| 13:33.58 | Xho | hello |
| 13:34.02 | Wormy_ | Xho: This movie looks like its based on one your planes of chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTkCa5nB_8 |
| 13:34.17 | drom | squees |
| 13:34.21 | drom | Hey Xho. |
| 13:34.30 | Wormy_ | *game |
| 13:34.39 | Xho | Wormy_: "Vegan hell" |
| 13:34.52 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 13:34.58 | Hachiman | Scorn looks amazing |
| 13:35.05 | Xho | Looks like Silent Hill crossed with Giger |
| 13:35.08 | Xho | So 10/10 |
| 13:36.08 | Xho | So I got the opportunity to play a NES last night |
| 13:36.19 | Hachiman | Oh? |
| 13:36.30 | Xho | Played the original Super Mario Bros |
| 13:36.50 | Xho | the 1980s were a cruel decade |
| 13:36.53 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:36.53 | drom | How, that was one whole new level of squick. |
| 13:37.18 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.20 | Hachiman | drom: Stuff inspired so heavily by Giger is usually squick |
| 13:37.27 | Hachiman | olol |
| 13:37.57 | Xho | ohai drom |
| 13:38.03 | Xho | suddenly appeared from the aether again |
| 13:38.15 | Monet | This movie is desperate if it shows that the black guy dies *in the trailer* |
| 13:39.10 | Wormy_ | Scorn looks like its based on https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/jun/29/religion-philosophy |
| 13:39.21 | drom | Monet: Rule zero in Hollywood movies, regardless how likeable he is, the black guy is always the first casuality. |
| 13:39.29 | Wormy_ | "As I already tried to show, Heidegger seeks to reawaken perplexity about the question of being, the basic issue of metaphysics. In Being and Time, he pursues this question through an analysis of the human being or what he calls Dasein." |
| 13:39.50 | NeonPanda | drom: black guy for multiracial cast |
| 13:39.51 | Monet | drom_: The trope was dying out until about now |
| 13:40.35 | drom | NeonPanda: still makes no difference if the entire cast is black |
| 13:41.18 | Wormy_ | That, or he becomes the villain possessed by the alien |
| 13:41.49 | drom | But yes. I don't know if that trope are invoked with or without intention. |
| 13:43.50 | drom | Xho: By the way, just you know. I'm interested in a Kurinnurii-Vranntan war story. |
| 13:43.59 | Xho | alrighty |
| 13:44.14 | Wormy_ | Anyway, Scorn looks quite philosophical and very atmospheric. Almost something in touch with personal existence in a strange world |
| 13:44.15 | Xho | I really need to pick up Tuuros again because that's actually decently structured |
| 13:45.22 | Xho | Might remake the Vrantann |
| 13:45.26 | Xho | Or Vranntan |
| 13:45.32 | Xho | Can't remember this dum shit |
| 13:45.39 | drom | Vranntan |
| 13:45.58 | drom | But yeah, take your time, Xho! |
| 13:46.14 | Xho | Oh shit I did their whole page |
| 13:47.02 | drom | FYI, I am the stranger "Chimera" asking to be your friend in Discord. |
| 13:47.03 | dino82_ | :d |
| 13:47.58 | Xho | huh well |
| 13:48.46 | Xho | You're not appearing on my discord |
| 13:51.49 | drom | Uh, strange. |
| 13:52.31 | drom | Apparently we don't share the same server :d |
| 13:53.26 | Xho | ah |
| 13:54.43 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/WlO8qq9.png |
| 13:56.13 | drom | Wormy_ Ghelae: Kurz has a new video explaining fusion energy |
| 13:56.16 | drom | and it seems great. |
| 13:56.21 | Wormy_ | Saw it |
| 13:56.29 | Wormy_ | Also Vsauce has new videos |
| 13:57.38 | Wormy_ | I'm more interested in the prospects of space-based solar power |
| 14:15.57 | Wormy_ | Right, time to make a backtracking algorithm bbl |
| 14:22.18 | dino82_ | Malegras with diplomatic cape with Rambo Insigna: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Malegras_(3)_with_CapeLarge.png |
| 14:25.53 | Xho | bots |
| 14:25.57 | Xho | or cyborgs |
| 14:26.20 | Xho | Drom: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/06/Vranntan2016_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20161112142514 heavy duty reptilian alien impact incoming |
| 14:29.59 | dino82_ | nice aliens Xho! |
| 14:30.02 | dino82_ | Do they live in Tuuros? |
| 14:30.19 | Xho | Yup |
| 14:31.42 | Monet | Big angry lizards. |
| 14:32.09 | Monet | WOuldn't want to be on the business end of either that tail or those jaws. |
| 14:33.37 | Xho | The only thing worse than a Vranntan is a ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 14:34.26 | Xho | General fiction disclaimer, I think the Vranntan would be terrified of them |
| 14:34.32 | Xho | Well who wouldn't be I guess |
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| 14:35.51 | dino82_ | Neat |
| 14:35.59 | dino82_ | A bad encoutner forexplorer in Tuuros? |
| 14:36.12 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 14:37.15 | drom | Oh, what did I miss?? |
| 14:37.18 | drom | :c |
| 14:39.07 | DrodoEmpire | drom: https://i.gyazo.com/a83c44739b38ccd043777286520c0905.png |
| 14:41.09 | drom | Oh, thanks! |
| 14:41.32 | drom | I've to go soon anyway. Oh well. |
| 14:42.57 | drom | Xho: > heavy duty reptillian impact incoming |
| 14:43.40 | drom | "Prepare the antimatter-powered anti-organic demoleculeizer" |
| 14:44.38 | Xho | aw shit nigga |
| 14:44.41 | drom | But again, I gotta go |
| 14:47.35 | Xho | So Animals As Leaders has a new song called "Backpfeifengesicht" |
| 14:47.38 | Xho | top kek |
| 14:48.40 | dino82_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lt_WindsorLarge.png a common officer donning a clone trooper armor |
| 14:48.51 | drom | Xho: I imagine Vranntans would brag about being able to outclass everyone in strength. While Kurinnurii are on about outgunning everyone, becuase, four hands. |
| 14:49.03 | Xho | look ma four hands |
| 14:49.15 | Xho | Kind of why the Vranntan would be scared of the ZÃ-Jittorám |
| 14:49.29 | Xho | Galaxy's strongest race comes into contact with one of the universe's strongest races |
| 14:52.06 | drom | Xho: To beat the Zi-Jittoram, you must fuse Kurinnurii and Vranntan |
| 14:52.19 | Xho | mechanical vranntan |
| 14:52.23 | Xho | pls no |
| 14:54.58 | DrodoEmpire | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Machine_Gun_RPD.jpg - Apparently the Polish army gives all its old RPD machine guns a sick paint job? |
| 14:57.13 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Red stripes for extra kurwa |
| 14:57.19 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 15:08.02 | dino82_ | :d |
| 15:11.50 | drom | Xho: Kurinnurii aren't robots, they are totally-not-Nomatarians |
| 15:12.00 | drom | But... now I imagine that |
| 15:12.30 | drom | Cybertics for the extra rule of cool |
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| 15:33.57 | NeonPanda | did Hachi say how long he'd be gone for? |
| 15:37.11 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure |
| 15:37.14 | OluapPlayer | He's on Skype, he just lost connection to the IRC |
| 15:37.48 | NeonPanda | fair enough |
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| 15:40.31 | NeonPanda | hi |
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| 15:45.13 | dino82_ | hi |
| 15:54.32 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 16:02.51 | dino82_ | :D |
| 16:31.11 | Monet | I decided to roll a healer in WoW for a bit. |
| 16:31.35 | Monet | I was a little rusty as a healer but man-a-fucking-live did I get a lot of shit. |
| 16:32.23 | Monet | "retard," "dog," "idiot," when I asked the tank to slow down a little he said "no" |
| 16:32.23 | Hachiman | hur |
| 16:32.33 | NeonPanda | oh yeah, healers rate just behind tanks on the receipt of verbal abuse |
| 16:32.37 | Hachiman | Life as a healer |
| 16:32.48 | dino82_ | o healer!They are quite wanted, tnaks as well |
| 16:32.59 | NeonPanda | mhm, the classes everyone wants and everyone blames |
| 16:33.04 | NeonPanda | and then they wonder why there's so few of them |
| 16:33.10 | Monet | Exactly |
| 16:35.26 | Monet | I'm not sure if I should roll as a Holy paladin after that |
| 16:36.13 | NeonPanda | which reminds me, I know you've got things to do and whatnot but when you have time we can work on your character |
| 16:36.32 | Monet | I know. |
| 16:37.42 | NeonPanda | Just putting the note out |
| 16:38.53 | Monet | When I'm tanking - my primary role - I generally get silence. But I'm a good tank. |
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| 16:39.25 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:39.26 | NeonPanda | yeah, that's the tank's bane- you're like the janitor, you only hear about it when you're not doing your job right |
| 16:39.44 | Monet | I could describe that of any job really. |
| 16:40.18 | Monet | Once I started healing effectively, they all shut up. Not even a "okay nice, that's better" |
| 16:40.30 | NeonPanda | except for DPS, nobody talks to the DPS |
| 16:40.43 | NeonPanda | in fact it's usually the DPS doing all the talking, unless it's a LOLDragoon |
| 16:41.29 | Monet | DPS job: Hit it until it falls over. |
| 16:42.12 | Monet | Not hard to fuck up unless you're either coming in with crap gear or you're charging before the tank. |
| 16:43.21 | NeonPanda | yeah, the LOLDragoon is one exception to that rule; a couple of abilities with two to three second cast times in which you're effectively frozen on the spot, so if you're dumb with them you'll get pasted by sectors and circles |
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| 16:43.59 | Monet | I had one run where I was exhausted after because by the time the last of one mob died, this guy would already halfway to the next mob he wanted to kill. |
| 16:44.07 | Monet | It was like that for the entire run |
| 16:44.27 | NeonPanda | I had one like that, I didn't take aggro off him and told the healer (who was my guildmate) not to heal him |
| 16:44.42 | NeonPanda | we ended up essentially three-manning most mob packs |
| 16:45.18 | NeonPanda | the third DPS was also my guildmate so we worked pretty well |
| 16:48.17 | Monet | One thing this tank said was "I could solo this dungeon easily I just need some heals" |
| 16:50.45 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.09 | NeonPanda | that... is some pretty decent bants, not gonna lie |
| 16:51.43 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.37 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.14 | Monet | I think I died after the group over-pulled before I said it. |
| 16:57.14 | Monet | Come to think of it, yes. The dungeon was short, but I recall everyone was just leaving all the bodies un-looted |
| 16:57.27 | Monet | I was slowed down partially because I was looting. |
| 17:01.55 | ImpyDroid | Monet: A healer's lot is not a happy one |
| 17:02.07 | Monet | "slow down. Life is to be savoured" is quoted by the Pandaren and I think it should be a tooltip. |
| 17:02.47 | NeonPanda | "Slow down. Life is still looting the bodies." would be more apt I think XD |
| 17:07.24 | Monet | It's lind of funny that the "durr fokin Panda-people" offer such sage advice to players. |
| 17:07.52 | Monet | And like all sage advice, most people don't XD |
| 17:19.51 | OluapPlayer | And they get fucked because of it |
| 17:19.57 | OluapPlayer | shoulda listened to the bear men |
| 17:21.42 | NeonPanda | shoulda listened to the squishy ray of tranquility |
| 17:22.58 | dino82_ | :D |
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| 17:27.12 | Monet | I don't know if this a defence but soldiers are kinda trained to listen more to their commanders than the native bear peopel telling them they're doing bad. |
| 17:27.28 | NeonPanda | it's kind of a defence |
| 17:27.33 | NeonPanda | but you still listen to the tranquility |
| 17:27.35 | NeonPanda | or you get the sass |
| 17:27.44 | NeonPanda | (only overwatch players are getting these jokes) |
| 17:27.44 | Hachiman | Sassyatta |
| 17:28.58 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14992013_279822552413479_4268598016352111196_n.jpg?oh=41d024f14bb23a820cfe64729ddb6e6e&oe=58C978BB |
| 17:30.38 | NeonPanda | they did it wrong |
| 17:30.42 | NeonPanda | Mei is meant to be in the middle |
| 17:30.58 | NeonPanda | like gdi me and my friends have done this and we did it better |
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| 17:48.28 | Quark8 | Welcome back. |
| 18:09.27 | drom | Charles_Murray: What if commanding ground forces would be like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtrJaiUZaA |
| 18:10.45 | DrodoEmpire | Very cool, but not practical <.< |
| 18:11.24 | DrodoEmpire | Soldiers have minds of their own and to fight effectively there must be some autonomy at the lower levels |
| 18:15.33 | drom | Indeed. |
| 18:15.56 | drom | This is a more pausible alternative if holograms won't work |
| 18:16.13 | NeonPanda | it's certainly at least useful as a means of different angles of perception |
| 18:16.17 | drom | That said, tactical holotables that said :P |
| 18:16.30 | DrodoEmpire | Panda: Definitely |
| 18:18.02 | NeonPanda | like I can imagine an invading force setting up a network of remote surveillance drones to create a constantly updating 3d image of the field of battle, which they could then explore using 3d technology like this |
| 18:18.19 | NeonPanda | now that I think of it that's basically what the Circle and the Cult Mechanicus do |
| 18:19.03 | NeonPanda | except they're receiving sensory input from literally every unit in their military so they have a more limited but much, much more precise view of what's going on |
| 18:19.11 | drom | Homeworld comes to my mind |
| 18:19.46 | NeonPanda | ImpyDroid: What was that name you gave me when I asked for a fancy lizard people name yesterday? |
| 18:19.49 | drom | Spacebar to enter "sensor mode", which is basicly this but without constantly updating images. |
| 18:21.13 | NeonPanda | I remember sensor mode from that Homeworld game set on the planet, watched a playthrough of it |
| 18:21.40 | drom | Deserts of Kharak |
| 18:22.31 | NeonPanda | that's the one |
| 18:22.53 | NeonPanda | inspired me to want to play Space Engineers on a planet and build craft similar to those |
| 18:26.07 | Monet | There's a satellite in Civ BE that boosts the offensive, defensive and healing capabilities of units that stand under it. |
| 18:26.52 | Monet | The satellite however was described in the civelopedia as being capable of this by providing a direct link between field soldiers and experts back in the colonies. |
| 18:27.13 | NeonPanda | actually that reminded me of one of the smarter things the Cult Mechanicus came up with: because their soldiers are all interlinked, it's very hard to surprise attack them because chances are one of the other soldiers will see you in time for the soldier you're attacking to react- they share information near-instantaneously about all manner of things, including immediate threats |
| 18:29.51 | drom | But yeah, consider RUSE and Wargame. |
| 18:34.51 | Monet | I do wonder if high-level gigaquadrant nations use these |
| 18:35.12 | dino82_ | the RAmbo would love to have that tech |
| 18:35.15 | dino82_ | for their clone troopers |
| 18:35.17 | dino82_ | :D |
| 18:36.01 | NeonPanda | the Fordanta probably do to an extent; their leaders aren't in bunkers at the rear to be able to take advantage of that sort of thing but they probably have tacticians analysing the battle behind the lines |
| 18:36.07 | NeonPanda | as I said the Circle has that on crack |
| 18:37.23 | NeonPanda | the Circle runs what information they have through predictive models to help anticipate what's going to happen, so they're not just moving around the battle but forwards and backwards through predicted time as well |
| 18:41.39 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes I'm sure communications technology and realtime satellite imaging of that sort would come in mighty handy |
| 18:41.55 | DrodoEmpire | And it'd probably make orbital and air superiority that much more useful |
| 18:42.35 | NeonPanda | indeed, assuming both sides employed this form of technology air superiority might even supersede air to ground support |
| 18:42.46 | Monet | Strike craft could be used to interfere with or sabotage satellites. |
| 18:43.11 | DrodoEmpire | Well, no, I figure battleships or corvettes in orbit could easily provide such imaging |
| 18:43.44 | DrodoEmpire | They'd still be "satellites" |
| 18:44.28 | NeonPanda | now that I think of it, that might make signal distortion technology a real power tool |
| 18:44.58 | DrodoEmpire | Oh yeah sensor jamming's everywhere on the SW battlefield |
| 18:45.13 | NeonPanda | of course, I mean even moreso than usual |
| 18:45.15 | DrodoEmpire | I believe France's doctrine centers heavily around the use of extreme jamming |
| 18:45.31 | NeonPanda | like if you have a hypothetical force that depends on this technology for their command structure |
| 18:46.25 | Monet | I think I designed a dedicated command/e-warfare cruiser for the DI. |
| 18:46.31 | drom | DrodoEmpire: "The French are jamming in the fourth tac-sector" "Nuke that piece of shit sector up." |
| 18:46.59 | DrodoEmpire | Why would you bomb a sector being jammed? o.O |
| 18:47.10 | NeonPanda | well that might resolve the jamming problem |
| 18:47.13 | Monet | One class of cruiser was built with a sophisticated AI "general." |
| 18:47.31 | DrodoEmpire | Bombing the origin of the jamming yeah |
| 18:47.34 | drom | If there are no forces of yours that are known to be since that sector |
| 18:47.51 | drom | Then why not solve it in the easy way |
| 18:47.55 | NeonPanda | Monet: whenever I play a materialist faction in Stellaris, once I get to the tech I always imagine my fleets being entirely run by AI, and the footsoldiers are droids regardless |
| 18:48.00 | OluapPlayer | Monet: I fought two of the world bosses a couple of times. Is it normal for them to give you no loot? |
| 18:48.19 | NeonPanda | so my empires near always have militaries that don't actually involve living beings after a certain point |
| 18:48.24 | OluapPlayer | All I got from each was some gold |
| 18:48.25 | Monet | OluaPlayer: Not sure. |
| 18:48.40 | OluapPlayer | They dropped no other items |
| 18:48.46 | drom | But I can see how a flawing tactic this is if the origin is inside a building or deep underground. DrodoEmpire. |
| 18:49.02 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: You know anything about this? |
| 18:50.22 | Charles_Bot | France used to assume that its subspace communications would be jammed in large-scale conventional realspace battles |
| 18:51.08 | Charles_Bot | So they pretty much jammed everything at all times while in battle and used targeted high-powered lasers in order to communicate from ship to ship |
| 18:51.53 | Charles_Bot | So the entire formation was basically equipped to communicate at all times despite jamming |
| 18:54.41 | drom | Subspace communications? |
| 18:55.14 | drom | Ah, communication via hyper-space |
| 19:03.45 | Monet | I love how with the introduction of faction warfare in EVE online, the Gallente Federation lost nearly all the systems designated as fair game for the mechanic |
| 19:04.30 | drom | I heard a story from a deviout EVE player |
| 19:04.37 | drom | The rise and fall of the Imperium |
| 19:04.50 | Monet | This was all due to the players. Basically once the option of war between the GF and Caldari State, the Federation lost *badly* |
| 19:04.53 | drom | Aka the giant yellow blob that everyone fought |
| 19:05.29 | Monet | Rise -and- fall? |
| 19:06.18 | Hachiman | Yep |
| 19:06.23 | Hachiman | Imperium got fucked |
| 19:06.47 | drom | It is just that it still exists, today it has lost many allied and is now a punching bag. |
| 19:07.12 | Hachiman | My friend participated in that conflict |
| 19:07.28 | Monet | I recall you mentioning |
| 19:07.34 | Hachiman | Working on frontline assaults on Imperium systems and whatnot |
| 19:07.36 | Monet | So the Imperium is a vestigial empire now? |
| 19:12.16 | Charles_Murray | drom : That looks like a really bad idea |
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| 19:19.36 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 19:21.54 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 19:22.18 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 19:22.18 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 19:22.33 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer |
| 19:22.33 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction |
| 19:40.56 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Normal |
| 19:41.08 | ImpyDroid | The loot is distributed between all the people who killed it |
| 19:41.12 | ImpyDroid | the boss |
| 19:41.22 | ImpyDroid | Not everyone gets proper loot |
| 19:41.29 | OluapPlayer | That's bollocks |
| 19:41.38 | OluapPlayer | Only chance of me getting loot is by soloing them then |
| 19:42.31 | ImpyDroid | You will get loot just not all the time |
| 19:45.09 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman NeonPanda: http://i.imgur.com/deIIFEU.jpg |
| 19:45.24 | NeonPanda | heh |
| 19:45.39 | OluapPlayer | I gotta say I quite like Pandaria |
| 19:45.59 | OluapPlayer | Out of the content I did so far it's been the most enjoyable |
| 19:48.56 | drom | Charles_Murray, you on about nuking (as in bombing an area into oblivion for a result) an area of signal jam? |
| 19:49.10 | Charles_Murray | That too |
| 19:49.51 | drom | ??? |
| 19:49.57 | Charles_Murray | [13:09] <drom> Charles_Murray: What if commanding ground forces would be like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGtrJaiUZaA |
| 19:50.00 | drom | I'm - |
| 19:50.01 | drom | Oh |
| 19:50.36 | drom | I'd love to hear your reasoning on this, Charles. |
| 19:50.39 | drom | :P |
| 19:51.45 | Charles_Murray | Well in a video game that looks extremely impractical as opposed to a keyboard, mouse, and hotkeys. |
| 19:52.12 | Monet | I could not play Red Alert like that. |
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| 19:53.11 | NeonPanda | hi u |
| 19:53.59 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I agree Pandaria is lovely. |
| 19:54.00 | drom | Well yeah. But remember it is a new fresh technology, we aren't even accustomized to it |
| 19:54.01 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 19:54.30 | OluapPlayer | The Pandaren are a lot more interesting than I thought I'd find them |
| 19:54.32 | drom | The future is miles more advanced than that as well |
| 19:54.37 | OluapPlayer | The Sha are also really cool |
| 19:54.45 | OluapPlayer | + ook you in the dooker |
| 19:54.54 | Monet | When Cataclysm was on its' way I vaguely recall talking to one guy who said he was bored with all these Old Gods stories. |
| 19:55.29 | OluapPlayer | Well little did he know MoP was another Old God story |
| 19:55.44 | Monet | It was but there was less Old Goddery in it. |
| 19:55.55 | OluapPlayer | I guess |
| 19:55.58 | Charles_Murray | And for the commanding of IRL ground forces, it kind of misunderstands the role of commanders in real militaries. There is no omniscient, all-seeing leader that gives minute tactical direction to his soldiers, who do everything he says to the letter. The role of military leaders at different echelons of command is to make sure that -their- level > |
| 19:56.07 | Monet | A good chunk of it was socking the Horde/Alliance or the Mogu. |
| 19:56.19 | Charles_Murray | holds together and is able to achieve an objective that was handed down to them, and they hand down objectives to their subordinates, who hand the details of how it's going to be carried out to their subordinates, etc |
| 19:56.34 | OluapPlayer | My favorite part so far was probably the one quest where you save a yeti from the hozen, and when you do it rampages through them and explodes them on impact |
| 19:57.07 | Charles_Murray | There are definitely guys with computers and data coordinating and supporting the guys on the ground, but ultimately the direction and decisions are made by the guys on the ground |
| 19:57.53 | Monet | They're not going to get much use out of this VR system. |
| 19:57.55 | Charles_Murray | Because, in a remote location, a superior is not going to be able to make the instant decisions which will mean life or death for his men |
| 19:58.31 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Hozen may be poop-throwing monkeys. But they're awesome poop-throwing monkeys |
| 19:58.52 | OluapPlayer | ookers gonna ook |
| 19:58.54 | Monet | "They're planting tool trees. They're ookin stupid!" |
| 19:59.28 | Monet | In Stormstout Brewery hen you kill the boss you are eclared "the new Ook". Not even kidding |
| 19:59.34 | Monet | Ook can be a title! |
| 19:59.47 | Monet | Then all the Hozen party. |
| 20:00.04 | Monet | kill a certain boss* |
| 20:01.01 | OluapPlayer | One quest had me kill a hozen called the Dook of Ook |
| 20:01.34 | Monet | "Imma throw mah derk" |
| 20:02.03 | OluapPlayer | As strong as I got from those shiny new gear pieces, I still can't do Pandaria dungeons |
| 20:02.08 | OluapPlayer | Not even on normal difficulty |
| 20:02.43 | OluapPlayer | it's a bunch of dook if ye ask me |
| 20:02.58 | Monet | Dungeons are meant fro groups tho... |
| 20:03.27 | OluapPlayer | Yeah but I'm wearing what I only assume are WoD items |
| 20:04.08 | OluapPlayer | I need more |
| 20:04.11 | OluapPlayer | more stats |
| 20:04.51 | Monet | Careful. Teron'gor said the same thing about souls. |
| 20:05.46 | OluapPlayer | The fall of Trughs into villainy, joins the Burning Legion because their items are better |
| 20:06.49 | Tek0516 | O.o I was playing Space Engine and suddenly everything flipped out and sent my ship flying away with a realspace velocity of 23c. O.o |
| 20:10.24 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: The Horde perspective on the hozen is even better |
| 20:10.38 | ImpyDroid | You get to hang out with one as your squadmate |
| 20:10.54 | ImpyDroid | He also has a crush on your Forsaken squadmate |
| 20:11.43 | OluapPlayer | monkey wants to ook a zombie |
| 20:12.20 | ImpyDroid | Try to do Kun-Lai too |
| 20:12.36 | OluapPlayer | Already did |
| 20:13.07 | Monet | "Must. Have. KAFFEE!" |
| 20:13.19 | OluapPlayer | I'm at the Townlong Steppes atm |
| 20:14.07 | drom | Did someone kaffee? |
| 20:14.09 | ImpyDroid | Did you do the Thunder King quests? |
| 20:14.38 | OluapPlayer | I did |
| 20:14.50 | OluapPlayer | Of course Pandaria needed the obligatory troll involvement |
| 20:16.40 | ImpyDroid | hush |
| 20:16.44 | ImpyDroid | Zandalari are cool |
| 20:17.16 | OluapPlayer | trolls mon |
| 20:18.09 | Technobliterator | Well, I actually have Windows installed now |
| 20:18.18 | Technobliterator | I have no idea what a good antivrius software |
| 20:18.24 | Hachiman | FUCKING WINDOWS PEASANT |
| 20:18.28 | Hachiman | GO TO LINUX SCRUB |
| 20:18.30 | Technobliterator | that I don't have to pay for is |
| 20:18.32 | OluapPlayer | Avast |
| 20:18.41 | Technobliterator | alright, I'll use that one then |
| 20:18.51 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: Malwarebytes is good |
| 20:18.59 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: You are going to build a firewall and make the viruses pay for it |
| 20:19.05 | Monet | I sue Avira. |
| 20:19.06 | Technobliterator | pft |
| 20:19.14 | Monet | use Avira* |
| 20:19.16 | Technobliterator | okay, I'll keep them all in mind |
| 20:19.17 | Technobliterator | ty |
| 20:20.29 | NeonPanda | The_Randomness: Teemo has officially died one billion times. |
| 20:20.58 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 20:21.17 | The_Randomness | Where did you see that? |
| 20:21.30 | NeonPanda | the official NA LOL website |
| 20:21.43 | The_Randomness | I need to see this |
| 20:23.02 | The_Randomness | loooool |
| 20:27.22 | drom | No one will miss Teemo |
| 20:27.23 | drom | ever |
| 20:27.54 | The_Randomness | picking cho into him feels dirty |
| 20:28.01 | The_Randomness | If you don't lose the lane before 6, it's free |
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| 20:29.10 | Rankings | Hi |
| 20:29.15 | Hachiman | NeonPanda: It took me this long to realise that Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Deep was a song about hooking up |
| 20:29.25 | Hachiman | *Cheap |
| 20:29.33 | Rankings | Yo Hachiman |
| 20:29.36 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 20:30.01 | Rankings | Dous any of your empires have the ability to clone p |
| 20:30.16 | Hachiman | Why do you ask? |
| 20:30.17 | DrodoEmpire | Do any of ours? |
| 20:30.26 | DrodoEmpire | Well, yes. We can clone *right now* IRL |
| 20:31.02 | DrodoEmpire | It'd likely be financial and ethical concerns preventing its use in most regions |
| 20:31.06 | DrodoEmpire | Practical too |
| 20:31.40 | Rankings | Ok, dous of your SPORE empires have the abilithy to clone. |
| 20:32.00 | Hachiman | Again; why do you ask |
| 20:32.08 | DrodoEmpire | What I'm saying is that probably *every* SW nation can |
| 20:32.13 | DrodoEmpire | To some extent |
| 20:32.24 | DrodoEmpire | But many probably restrict or ban it |
| 20:32.35 | Rankings | Drodo, thats boring |
| 20:33.06 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure how to respond to that. |
| 20:33.09 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 20:33.15 | DrodoEmpire | As I was saying |
| 20:34.00 | DrodoEmpire | Mine in particular, the Drodo Empire, regulates any sort of cloning or genetic modification of animals/plants and outright bans the practice on sapients |
| 20:34.21 | Rankings | Oh yeh Drodo im finalizing the gov my newest empire |
| 20:34.23 | Hachiman | Most of my empires probably do not condone cloning, even though the scientific capacity is there |
| 20:34.29 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:34.39 | DrodoEmpire | Its a matter of if you *should* do it |
| 20:34.43 | DrodoEmpire | Not if you can |
| 20:35.17 | DrodoEmpire | Anyone caught doing such experiments likely facing a very very long sentence, and if such experiments are blatently unethical enough, the Drodo can be quite liberal with the death sentence :p |
| 20:35.34 | Hachiman | Drodo know what's up |
| 20:35.58 | Monet | Cloned soldiers could be considered a kind of slave army or slave labour |
| 20:36.11 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:36.18 | Rankings | My has banned cybernetics for none medicle use in article 7 of the rules of development document |
| 20:36.29 | DrodoEmpire | Uh huh |
| 20:36.32 | Hachiman | Medical |
| 20:36.50 | ImpyDroid | The Divinarium practiced cloning during its early days to bolster its population I believe |
| 20:36.58 | ImpyDroid | Post-Annihilation |
| 20:37.26 | Rankings | The reason is because of the alience it was once apart |
| 20:37.35 | DrodoEmpire | Wouldn't that open the door to potential inbreeding problems though Impy? |
| 20:37.52 | DrodoEmpire | Having so many people who share the same or similar genetics and whatnot |
| 20:38.05 | Rankings | You see when the empire was alot weaker it was apart a alince know as the Digfem, alience |
| 20:38.24 | drom | For more diversity on the subject of cloning. My primary frown upon the idea of cloning due to the costs and how unnatural it is. |
| 20:38.39 | Rankings | Inwitch it later destroyed |
| 20:38.39 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, as far as, err, I guess Pro-Natalist policies go I guess that'd be potentially effective and very expensive |
| 20:38.46 | DrodoEmpire | I'm concerned about the long term though |
| 20:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | Why would that then give them a law banning commericialised cybernetics? |
| 20:40.16 | Rankings | Well that was msoely to regulate spending |
| 20:40.26 | DrodoEmpire | Huh? |
| 20:40.31 | Monet | Regulate spending? |
| 20:40.34 | DrodoEmpire | What? |
| 20:40.37 | Rankings | Yes |
| 20:40.48 | DrodoEmpire | That... That doesn't make sense |
| 20:40.56 | Rankings | I know it dousnt |
| 20:41.07 | drom | Speaking of cloning, I've grown a bit opposive attitude to cloning. It is for production but I am concerned about the costs and the fear of an army of identifically-looking clones to rise against us. |
| 20:41.08 | DrodoEmpire | How is all-but-outlawing a sector of the economy regulate spending? |
| 20:41.25 | drom | good for production of food* |
| 20:41.40 | Rankings | The Sybrone empire realized how little sense it made to |
| 20:42.00 | DrodoEmpire | You do realise that if your nation was smart they'd at least let the medical cybernetics be made by private companies? |
| 20:42.18 | DrodoEmpire | And private companies would pay tax, and create jobs, who employ people who also pay tax |
| 20:42.27 | DrodoEmpire | Which makes the country and government richer |
| 20:42.38 | Rankings | Drodo, they do have medicle cybernetics |
| 20:42.47 | Hachiman | MOTHERFUCKING CAPITALISM |
| 20:42.48 | Hachiman | BITCH |
| 20:43.06 | DrodoEmpire | And by not outlawing cybernetics this industry would be larger and a better source of tax revenue |
| 20:43.29 | DrodoEmpire | This could introduce other problems of course |
| 20:43.38 | DrodoEmpire | But you see how nonsensical your justification is? >.< |
| 20:43.42 | Rankings | However there is a very strict limit to how stronb they can be |
| 20:44.12 | Rankings | The law itself is very controversal |
| 20:44.54 | Monet | So medical-grade cybernetics for medical purposes are allowed, and there is a strict limit o nhow powerful they can be |
| 20:45.27 | Hachiman | Wouldn't medical purpose cybernetics be just as 'strong' as the organs and whatnot that they're replacing? |
| 20:45.45 | Monet | I think that's the idea |
| 20:46.01 | Monet | Just as stron, but not much stronger. |
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| 20:46.09 | Rankings_ | Story my internet shat itself |
| 20:46.36 | Rankings_ | *sorry |
| 20:47.11 | Hachiman | Actually, if your empire has cloning capabilities but strict regulations on cybernetics, why not grow bio-synthetic organs or appendages and whatnot instead |
| 20:47.12 | Rankings_ | Anyway |
| 20:47.41 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah, why not stem cells and the like? |
| 20:48.08 | Rankings_ | Well i have a question for you |
| 20:48.15 | DrodoEmpire | Yes? |
| 20:48.54 | Rankings_ | Witch is stronger, a metel arm that punch throu walls, or a squisy fleshy clone arm |
| 20:49.00 | Hachiman | The advantage of lab-grown organs and limbs over cybernetic replacements and augmentations is that I believe you do not suffer the same 'compatibility' issues or whatever which tend to show up in sci-fi, since ideally the biological replacements would be tailored from pre-existing parts of a client's body |
| 20:49.05 | DrodoEmpire | Uhh |
| 20:49.21 | Monet | Wait... |
| 20:49.37 | Hachiman | Rankings_: Well, if you're part of a technophobic state that strictly regulates cybernetics, ideally you'd want to invest in the practice of producing squishy fleshy clone arms |
| 20:49.40 | DrodoEmpire | Except that growing a new arm and having it surgically placed on is probably cheaper and probably more desirable for more people |
| 20:49.46 | Rankings_ | You typed that in like 5 secounds |
| 20:49.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
| 20:50.08 | Monet | If there is a very strict limit on how strong a metal arm can be, then surely isn't the argument moot? |
| 20:50.11 | DrodoEmpire | Means I'm a better typist than you and nothing else :p |
| 20:50.17 | Hachiman | kek |
| 20:50.20 | DrodoEmpire | Why do you bring that up? |
| 20:50.23 | Rankings_ | Hachiman, my empire is not technophobic |
| 20:50.42 | Rankings_ | As i said before the law is extremely controversal |
| 20:51.30 | Hachiman | Right; the *state* sounds technophobic in that case considering it has outlawed the practice of corporations manufacturing commercial cybernetics |
| 20:52.34 | Rankings_ | Do you want everyone running around with the ability to punch walls down. |
| 20:52.42 | Hachiman | What? |
| 20:52.51 | DrodoEmpire | ...Cybernetic arms need not be that strong |
| 20:52.59 | Hachiman | That's... That's not the point I'm trying to make |
| 20:53.00 | DrodoEmpire | In fact, they'd always be the outlandish exception |
| 20:53.29 | Hachiman | In fact, it is BECAUSE your nation's government fears that happening because of commercialised cybernetics that I brought up the argument of cloning limbs |
| 20:53.33 | DrodoEmpire | Cybernetic arms will most certainly get more accurate, sensitive, and responsive- not necessarily more powerful |
| 20:53.42 | Monet | Reducto ad absurdum. |
| 20:54.05 | Hachiman | Monet: Now's not the time to start chanting Harry Potter spells |
| 20:54.09 | DrodoEmpire | And regulating cybernetic arms so you can't buy one that can punch a wall down would be the easiest thing in the world |
| 20:54.10 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 20:54.22 | Rankings_ | As i said, the law has been critiqued by the citizens |
| 20:54.28 | DrodoEmpire | Oookay |
| 20:54.40 | Monet | I'd question who exactly is buying an arm that can punch through walls. |
| 20:55.02 | Rankings_ | Peaple who want to punch walls down |
| 20:55.07 | DrodoEmpire | No shit |
| 20:55.09 | drom | Hachiman: I'll add that to the list to avoid saying when talking to professionals |
| 20:55.12 | DrodoEmpire | No |
| 20:55.13 | DrodoEmpire | Shit |
| 20:55.25 | DrodoEmpire | And who would be interested in being able to punch through walls |
| 20:55.34 | Hachiman | drom: kek |
| 20:55.45 | Rankings_ | Peaple who hate Walls |
| 20:55.51 | DrodoEmpire | I can imagine some people- career criminals, bodyguards, bodybuilders-- |
| 20:55.59 | DrodoEmpire | I hope you're joking |
| 20:56.00 | Hachiman | ... Is this a Trump joke |
| 20:56.07 | drom | Wall Street |
| 20:56.07 | Hachiman | Were you affected by the Trump Presidency this much |
| 20:56.21 | DrodoEmpire | Don't joke about daddy |
| 20:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | >:c |
| 20:56.28 | Hachiman | >daddy |
| 20:56.30 | Hachiman | Awful |
| 20:56.32 | OluapPlayer | daddy more like cancer |
| 20:56.33 | Rankings_ | Yeh, its a trump joke |
| 20:56.42 | Monet | Well...he's right. If you hate walls that much you probably would buy a wall-punching-capable implement |
| 20:56.54 | Monet | Personally a sledgehammer might work jsut as well |
| 20:56.58 | Rankings_ | There are ryots becouse peaple are that salty cuz trump one |
| 20:57.07 | DrodoEmpire | *won |
| 20:57.08 | Monet | Seldgehammers also require less surgery |
| 20:57.10 | Hachiman | I'm not getting into this |
| 20:57.16 | The_Randomness | zz |
| 20:57.40 | OluapPlayer | If you hate walls you're probably dangerously claustrophobic so you need therapy, not a sledgehammer |
| 20:57.49 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 20:57.55 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:57.58 | drom | Or be a hippie |
| 20:58.06 | Monet | Maybe you just *really* like the idea of an open-plan house. |
| 20:58.16 | Hachiman | Or you're a druid |
| 20:58.17 | Rankings_ | Yeh but sledge hammers don't make good rappers |
| 20:58.20 | drom | Or go out camping for life |
| 20:58.21 | Hachiman | Which is also a hippie |
| 20:58.53 | OluapPlayer | Druids aren't hippies since they murder you and just use trees as a scapegoat |
| 20:58.58 | Monet | Buying a sledgehammer is also much less ocmplicated |
| 20:58.58 | drom | Anarchoprimitivism |
| 20:58.59 | Hachiman | tRUE |
| 20:59.02 | Hachiman | True |
| 20:59.28 | drom | Maybe settling for an anarchoprimitivist life will solve your problem with walls |
| 20:59.32 | Rankings_ | Were did we get to this point |
| 20:59.35 | Monet | Should I cut my arm/hand off and sign up for surgery, or go down to the hardware store? |
| 20:59.53 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: Did you ever play Arms Warrior? Is it normal for one to attack at the speed of sloth? |
| 20:59.54 | drom | Monet: Or place your hand with a hammerhead. |
| 21:00.09 | Hachiman | Monet: In the words of Adam Jensen, "I didn't ask for this" |
| 21:00.27 | Monet | OlauPlayer: 2H weapons are intended to hit slow but hit damn hard |
| 21:00.49 | OluapPlayer | As far as I can tell, when I'm in a group I hit slow and I hit very very weakly |
| 21:01.09 | Rankings_ | We started talking about cloning, and now were talking about hammer |
| 21:01.35 | drom | That is what happens when you drop a low-effort or bad joke in #sporewiki |
| 21:01.41 | OluapPlayer | I did some timewalking for example and my contributions to the games amounted to nothing |
| 21:01.44 | Monet | Rankings_: We're offering more practical suggestions to something that can smash walls |
| 21:01.47 | OluapPlayer | On top of me getting fuck all for loot |
| 21:02.46 | Monet | But if the government restricts cybernetics to being for medical reasons, it sounds like it discourages developing military-grade stuff like arms that can smash walls. |
| 21:02.47 | drom | Secondly, we love to take our jokes very *seriously*~~ |
| 21:03.27 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Yes I did and yes it is |
| 21:03.45 | Monet | Build your Haste stat. |
| 21:03.55 | ImpyDroid | As for time walking, it is probably your lower level |
| 21:04.04 | OluapPlayer | I'm level 95 |
| 21:04.14 | OluapPlayer | Current Timewalking is WotLK dungeons |
| 21:04.18 | ImpyDroid | And the rest? Probably 110 or so |
| 21:04.31 | OluapPlayer | Point taken |
| 21:04.37 | OluapPlayer | There wer emany level 100s |
| 21:04.39 | OluapPlayer | many* |
| 21:04.59 | OluapPlayer | I've not been in a proper dungeon group since I did Stonecore |
| 21:05.08 | ImpyDroid | Try furry |
| 21:05.12 | ImpyDroid | *fury |
| 21:05.19 | drom | Charles_Murray: Had you ever thought about adopting mechanics from Stellaris? |
| 21:05.27 | Monet | "try furry" lol |
| 21:05.32 | OluapPlayer | The dual-wielding one? |
| 21:05.53 | OluapPlayer | I tried switching back in BC but I'm too used to Arms controls |
| 21:05.53 | ImpyDroid | Yeah |
| 21:06.00 | Charles_Murray | Which mechanics would you recommend? |
| 21:06.16 | Rankings_ | Anyway |
| 21:06.29 | Rankings_ | My army has the best grenades ever |
| 21:06.45 | Rankings_ | Can you gues what they are |
| 21:07.01 | OluapPlayer | So good he died |
| 21:07.05 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 21:07.16 | OluapPlayer | Regarding Haste, my only sources of it are trinkets |
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| 21:07.25 | Rankings | Anyway |
| 21:07.28 | Rankings | Can you gues |
| 21:07.28 | OluapPlayer | And they give like +25 haste each, which is essentially nothing |
| 21:07.33 | DrodoEmpire | No, I can't |
| 21:07.42 | Rankings | Galaxy note 7 |
| 21:07.48 | drom | Charles_Murray: I've no noteworthy in my mind right now. But the way how fleet actions span months up to years before a conclusion is made? |
| 21:07.57 | DrodoEmpire | ... Huh? |
| 21:08.07 | NeonPanda | And there went the last shred of me believing you were here with sincere intent. |
| 21:08.11 | Rankings | I was making a samsung joke |
| 21:08.21 | DrodoEmpire | Well, uh |
| 21:08.26 | drom | Samsung Note 7, known for their faulty exploding batteries. |
| 21:08.33 | DrodoEmpire | Ohh |
| 21:08.41 | DrodoEmpire | Well I'm not a phone geek <.< Sorry |
| 21:08.50 | NeonPanda | so faulty in fact that the replacement phones exploded as well, so the whole line has been discontinued |
| 21:08.53 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Timewalking gear is tricksy |
| 21:09.08 | NeonPanda | you'd think they'd have solved that problem in quality testing |
| 21:09.12 | OluapPlayer | Inexistent more like |
| 21:09.17 | OluapPlayer | I got no loot from timewalking |
| 21:09.20 | Rankings | Anyway |
| 21:09.21 | OluapPlayer | Like, at all |
| 21:09.21 | Monet | I got a couple |
| 21:09.31 | OluapPlayer | Not even trash to sell |
| 21:09.45 | Rankings | My empires government is rules by 10 peeps at once |
| 21:09.47 | OluapPlayer | No loot from timewalking, no loot from world bosses |
| 21:10.06 | DrodoEmpire | Only ten? |
| 21:10.21 | drom | Note 7 aren't bombs really, it is just violent decompression and lots of magic smoke. |
| 21:10.29 | OluapPlayer | The game doesn't like me very much |
| 21:10.45 | DrodoEmpire | How do they come to power? What are their roles? Do they have a Prime Minister or King of any kind who sits above the rest? |
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| 21:11.05 | DrodoEmpire | Only ten? |
| 21:11.07 | DrodoEmpire | How do they come to power? What are their roles? Do they have a Prime Minister or King of any kind who sits above the rest? |
| 21:11.33 | Rankings_ | Well 10 main rulers |
| 21:11.43 | DrodoEmpire | Well yes :p |
| 21:11.45 | OluapPlayer | Whenever I play with other people I always feel severely underpowered |
| 21:11.49 | Rankings_ | Think of it 10 kings |
| 21:11.53 | Rankings_ | All ruling at once |
| 21:11.58 | OluapPlayer | I'm meant to be DPS but I deal no DPS |
| 21:12.01 | DrodoEmpire | So the federal, executive level |
| 21:12.07 | DrodoEmpire | So its an oligarchy |
| 21:12.08 | Rankings_ | Yeh |
| 21:12.13 | DrodoEmpire | Hm. |
| 21:12.15 | Rankings_ | Sort of |
| 21:12.34 | DrodoEmpire | Well, no, that *is* a Oligarchy, ruling as some sort of council |
| 21:12.37 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 21:12.42 | DrodoEmpire | Unless there's something else |
| 21:12.43 | Rankings_ | Yeh |
| 21:12.57 | Rankings_ | Ots oligarchy |
| 21:13.23 | Monet | OluapPlayer: One of WoW's mercies is it gets more level at the top |
| 21:14.30 | Rankings_ | The empires full name is Curue Vazs Sombryne |
| 21:14.45 | Monet | One alternative I can give is you might have ot break yourself back into fury spec |
| 21:15.25 | OluapPlayer | Learning a new spec at level 95 though |
| 21:15.55 | Monet | I contemplated doing it with Arms |
| 21:16.15 | NeonPanda | better than learning how to melee tank and then suddenly the most glorious of mechanical ranged DPS' comes out, so you have to learn a new class AND a new role |
| 21:17.18 | OluapPlayer | The only time I was ever praised for my performance was during BC when I was doing dungeons near the level cap |
| 21:17.34 | NeonPanda | praise doesn't really happen sadly |
| 21:17.54 | OluapPlayer | That was about 30 levels ago |
| 21:18.00 | Monet | I've lost count how many dungeons and clean runs I've done. |
| 21:18.38 | Monet | No one in MMOs praises good role performance. They only shout at you if you do badly, as attested about healers earlier. |
| 21:18.57 | NeonPanda | I think the only time I ever really got praised as a tank (outside of AA with that one dungeon I could run solo because of my build) was this one time in FFXIV where I did the whole thing in sword stance, which theoretically shouldn't work |
| 21:19.01 | OluapPlayer | Well I can clear everything up to Cata dungeons on heroic solo. My problem is the people I play with are clearly better at my job than me |
| 21:19.23 | The_Randomness | In FFXIV I see people complimenting others if they do well pretty frequently |
| 21:20.00 | OluapPlayer | I was never shouted at. But I can see how little the HP bar goes down when I attack, and how quickly it does when other people attack |
| 21:20.26 | NeonPanda | I got a ton of compliments on my outfit, but not really on my performance XD |
| 21:20.31 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:20.43 | NeonPanda | bright pink plate armour ftw |
| 21:20.54 | The_Randomness | But oh my gosh, seeing someone who can't play their role properly grinds my gears |
| 21:20.58 | OluapPlayer | arms warrior had a hard life |
| 21:21.42 | The_Randomness | e.g. the healer who sits on their hands and only heals/overheals the entire dungeon, the tank who isn't undergeared and does slow pulls, and the dps who doesn't understand their abilities |
| 21:21.44 | The_Randomness | ugh |
| 21:22.21 | NeonPanda | I was never that "in" with raiding, but in PVP I had similar |
| 21:22.36 | NeonPanda | it was funny when it was an enemy fucking up, but when it's an ally you just want to smack them |
| 21:22.42 | The_Randomness | heh |
| 21:22.45 | OluapPlayer | That being said I also don't recall the last time I've come across another Arms Warrior |
| 21:23.04 | OluapPlayer | In instances that is |
| 21:23.08 | ImpyDroid | I do not think warriors are in a good position atm |
| 21:23.35 | The_Randomness | NeonPanda: I'm just talking about the people you get in duty finder when queuing up for roulettes |
| 21:23.43 | NeonPanda | yeah I know what you mean |
| 21:23.56 | OluapPlayer | I recall one time during BC where one worgen just whirlwinded his way through the whole dungeon without giving a fuck |
| 21:24.08 | OluapPlayer | Spin to win, dog edition |
| 21:24.19 | The_Randomness | I actually haven't pugged 8-man stuff that isn't story mode that much |
| 21:24.37 | NeonPanda | I think the funniest thing I've ever seen had to be a tank who trapped his entire raid in the circle of my fleet's magic artillery battery |
| 21:24.59 | NeonPanda | like, how do you fuck up that badly? |
| 21:25.10 | The_Randomness | Which game was this? |
| 21:25.14 | NeonPanda | ArcheAge |
| 21:25.17 | The_Randomness | ah |
| 21:25.31 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: Can you give me any advice since you played the class? |
| 21:25.52 | NeonPanda | there's one ability called Fortress I think which pulls all allies close and pushes all enemies away, then a second ability I can't remember which erects a hemisphere of force that stops /everything/ moving through it except projectile attacks |
| 21:26.14 | NeonPanda | so the guy hits fortress (which nobody uses for this exact reason), puts up the bubble, the bubble is full of his allies with no enemies in it |
| 21:26.32 | The_Randomness | olol |
| 21:26.41 | NeonPanda | so three pure DPS daggerspells just unloaded everything they had into one little circle of doom |
| 21:27.04 | NeonPanda | I was disappointed for being in the middle |
| 21:27.08 | NeonPanda | for not being in the middle* |
| 21:31.48 | NeonPanda | OH! Wait! One better one! The guy who blew himself up! |
| 21:33.02 | The_Randomness | oh my |
| 21:33.34 | NeonPanda | so one of the combo mechanics for sorcerers involves stacking fire buffs that boost the damage of the next spell, and one of the better ways to stack this is a centred-on-self short range circle that casts quickly |
| 21:35.27 | NeonPanda | now I should mention that this spell does damage to the caster as well, it's kind of a last-resort when you're swarmed kind of thing |
| 21:35.49 | The_Randomness | yeah, figured |
| 21:36.00 | NeonPanda | normally this isn't an issue because you cast a few when it's weak, then you cast a spell that makes your next spell do way more damage and penetrate defenses |
| 21:36.10 | NeonPanda | he forgot to stop casting the centre on self spell |
| 21:36.28 | The_Randomness | olol |
| 21:36.57 | NeonPanda | so here I was charging the gunline of five or six spellcasters, I activate my spell reflection ability in preparation for taking a lot of damage, when suddenly one of them blows himself up |
| 21:37.19 | NeonPanda | at first I thought "sweet I tricked him into blowing himself up" then I noticed I hadn't taken any damage |
| 21:37.39 | The_Randomness | lmao |
| 21:38.24 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Got to be the dumbest comment I saw on YouTube in a while |
| 21:38.29 | ImpyDroid | >+Imperios Japan has an absolute monarchy |
| 21:38.37 | Hachiman | wat |
| 21:38.56 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 21:39.05 | NeonPanda | now I have seen a guy kill himself accidentally in D&D, which was hilarious |
| 21:39.17 | The_Randomness | NeonPanda: I need to hear about this |
| 21:39.42 | NeonPanda | blood mage, aka deal CON damage to self to get one of a number of benefits to spell |
| 21:39.52 | ImpyDroid | Actually |
| 21:39.58 | DrodoEmpire | Apparently one of my M2TW generals possesses the Crown of Thorns Jesus wore o.O |
| 21:40.02 | ImpyDroid | When did Japan HAVE an ABSOLUTE monarchy? |
| 21:40.10 | NeonPanda | goes for 1d4 CON damage to maximise next spell, rolls 4 |
| 21:40.16 | DrodoEmpire | Never really |
| 21:40.27 | NeonPanda | level 13 character loses 26 max health, putting him below death score |
| 21:40.30 | DrodoEmpire | It was either feudal or constitution post-Meiji |
| 21:40.32 | The_Randomness | LOL |
| 21:40.37 | DrodoEmpire | *constitutional |
| 21:40.54 | NeonPanda | the spell still went off, in case anyone's curious |
| 21:41.49 | The_Randomness | rip him |
| 21:41.56 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: pls |
| 21:42.40 | NeonPanda | the closest I've come to killing myself is running face forward into a critical hit from an orc with a falchion, but that doesn't really count |
| 21:44.35 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: I have not played the class in a while, not sure if I can help |
| 21:44.45 | ImpyDroid | Lemme find a guide |
| 21:47.50 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: http://www.wowhead.com/arms-rotation-guide Here's that |
| 21:48.02 | ImpyDroid | As level 95 you have most of the skills I believe |
| 21:49.46 | NeonPanda | one thing I enjoyed about raiding in AA: I didn't have to worry about rotations, I just danced in hte middle of a group of enemies and randomly pushed a button when I was bored |
| 21:51.44 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:59.32 | OluapPlayer | Suppose I'm gonna have to wait until the artifact weapon to judge myself then |
| 22:02.50 | drom | Hachiman: do you know Pun-Pun the monkey? |
| 22:02.59 | Hachiman | ook |
| 22:03.00 | Hachiman | Yes I do |
| 22:03.07 | drom | Check this out then |
| 22:03.07 | drom | https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pun-Pun |
| 22:14.03 | ImpyDroid | I thought he was a kobold |
| 22:14.17 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: What do you mean? |
| 22:14.30 | OluapPlayer | That guide is for people with the artifact weapo |
| 22:14.30 | OluapPlayer | n |
| 22:14.44 | ImpyDroid | The artifact only gives you one ability, just disregard that |
| 22:19.08 | drom | ImpyDroid: Moneys are small creatures. |
| 22:33.13 | dino82_ | bye bye |
| 22:36.45 | drom | ImpyDroid: had you ever noticed that one stranger Chimera contacting you? |
| 22:36.54 | drom | In Discord |
| 22:41.21 | Ghel | I know I missed the discussion, but for future reference, Newton's third law tells you that if you attach to a biological body a cybernetic arm that can smash walls, it'll also smash the bone that it's attached to when it does so. So you'd need your cybernetics to include supports throughout the rest of the body, or perhaps jet engines to balance the force applied to the robot arm, and that goes beyond mere medical implants. |
| 22:43.06 | drom | That is nice |
| 22:43.48 | drom | You'd risk crushing your skull if you had the power or force needed to bite off a steel cable with your own biological teeth, if you could. |
| 22:49.30 | drom | Hachiman ImpyDroid: You might like this. http://imgur.com/gallery/rTq30 |
| 22:56.12 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/2Iue3iz.jpg |
| 23:02.56 | Hachiman | >Niggermancer's special trap card |
| 23:03.03 | Hachiman | I've seen this greentext before but it gets me every time |
| 23:08.28 | drom | Ah, I love this one |
| 23:08.28 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/IWn8HPQ.jpg |
| 23:10.30 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0cd9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.205.157) |
| 23:12.39 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/NxRwIIg.gifv |
| 23:13.35 | Hachiman | "What are you guys, fucking retarded?!" "Yes." |
| 23:15.53 | drom | Hachiman: this might be old, but appropriate? http://i.imgur.com/7tNHSG7.jpg |
| 23:16.06 | Hachiman | Oh wow |
| 23:53.27 | DrodoEmpire | Ohgod just remembered something that happened a little while ago when I was playing GMod |
| 23:54.08 | The_Randomness | hm? |
| 23:54.26 | DrodoEmpire | So I was on a DarkRP server, and me, a Black Market Dealer, and a bunch of other people were in an abandoned building finalising an arms deal (I think I was selling an RPG to them) |
| 23:55.05 | DrodoEmpire | But this one guy named Alfred actually bought all the doors in to the house (which is how you buy property) without us noticing |
| 23:55.12 | DrodoEmpire | While we were in there |
| 23:55.31 | DrodoEmpire | Now while we didn't realise at this point, we were technically trespassing |
| 23:56.00 | DrodoEmpire | And if you trespass in someone's property on DarkRP, its generally agreed that the owner's allowed to shoot you dead :p |
| 23:56.06 | DrodoEmpire | So, Alfred did |
| 23:56.11 | DrodoEmpire | All seven of us |
| 23:56.15 | The_Randomness | rip |
| 23:56.34 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... I was pretty fucking salty at the time but looking back the guy was brilliant XD |
| 23:56.41 | DrodoEmpire | I never would've thought've that |
| 23:57.14 | DrodoEmpire | Wasn't the only time he outwitted me either, seeing as I decided to continue the petty feud by sicking a hitman on him |
| 23:57.30 | DrodoEmpire | So he pays the hitman off and the hitman kills *me* instead :p |
| 23:57.47 | The_Randomness | lmao |
| 23:57.58 | DrodoEmpire | At that point I basically conceded, I couldn't hate the guy after that |
| 23:58.05 | DrodoEmpire | Too smart |
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