| 00:00.06 | Liquid_Ink | Well, making him watch all his assets go into public ownership would be fine. |
| 00:00.28 | ZF101 | I think doing that, might kill him off right then and there. |
| 00:01.10 | Liquid_Ink | Hopefully his son won't just take over. Hopefully there'll be a massive succession crisis. |
| 00:01.25 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 00:02.00 | ZF101 | Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. |
| 00:02.08 | DrodoEmpire | Are we done literally wishing death upon people? :p |
| 00:02.17 | DrodoEmpire | I'm sure buddy sucks a lot of ass |
| 00:02.20 | DrodoEmpire | But that's fucked up |
| 00:02.31 | ZF101 | NOOO! |
| 00:02.38 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 00:02.47 | The_Randomness | <_< |
| 00:03.01 | Monet | DrodoEMpire: Why I suggested we exile exile Murdoch to the middle of nowhere. |
| 00:03.12 | DrodoEmpire | Still |
| 00:03.14 | The_Randomness | yeah, wishing death on people no matter who they are is not_cool |
| 00:03.29 | DrodoEmpire | That's like how ancient greeks would put unwanted kids in the middle of the wildnerness |
| 00:03.41 | DrodoEmpire | "It ain't *me* killing him, so its alright!" |
| 00:03.49 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
| 00:03.50 | Monet | Wishing to feeding him, anyone, into a woodchipper is honestly rather barbaric imo. |
| 00:03.51 | ZF101 | Huh. Now I know where my parents got that idea from. |
| 00:03.56 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:04.41 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: I'm quite glad the ancient greeks didn't put unwanted kids in to a woodchipper <.< |
| 00:05.12 | ZF101 | That would be mordibly hilarious. |
| 00:05.50 | The_Randomness | eugh |
| 00:06.03 | ZF101 | I think I have to much of a dark sense of humor. |
| 00:06.16 | DrodoEmpire | Meh |
| 00:06.17 | Monet | https://pics.onsizzle.com/what-in-the-hell-is-wrong-with-you-people-jeje-2939415.png |
| 00:06.21 | DrodoEmpire | I make some pretty fucked up jokes |
| 00:08.19 | ZF101 | I think my sense of humor comes a lot from George Carlin. I might watch just a bit too much of his stuff. |
| 00:09.14 | DrodoEmpire | Oh I do like Carlin |
| 00:09.46 | Monet | Name rings a bell. I watch some rather dark comedians myself like Jack Dee and Charlie Brooker. |
| 00:10.03 | Liquid_Ink | Perhaps a woodchipper is a bit far. |
| 00:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, Carlin was probably one of the biggest stand up comedians ever, certainly in the States |
| 00:11.37 | DrodoEmpire | Influenced a whole generation of comics and people in general, for sure |
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| 00:13.44 | Zillafire101 | Man, this computer it glitchy. |
| 00:14.34 | Monet | I agree a woodchipper is to ofar. |
| 00:15.44 | Zillafire101 | Now, a trash compacter though, that seems more fair. |
| 00:17.40 | Liquid_Ink | Actually, I've gone over to the idea that watching the man's empire be dismantled is a gruesome enough punishment that doesn't even physically harm him. |
| 00:18.05 | Zillafire101 | Agreed. |
| 00:19.18 | Zillafire101 | Though maybe just one finger in the chipper wouldn't hurt? |
| 00:19.28 | The_Randomness | seriously guys? |
| 00:19.35 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah no murder. |
| 00:19.58 | Liquid_Ink | He who fights monster should see that they do not become monsters. |
| 00:20.16 | Liquid_Ink | Just force Murdoch to live as the working class he has been oppressing for so long. |
| 00:20.25 | Zillafire101 | Sorry, sorry. My parents let me watch too much violent shows like robocop as a kid. |
| 00:21.18 | Liquid_Ink | Ah, Robocop. Back in the day Hollywood first discovered the word "fuck" and was so excited to use it. |
| 00:21.39 | DrodoEmpire | Right, guys, go fume somewhere else |
| 00:21.49 | Zillafire101 | #Fumecorner |
| 00:22.28 | DrodoEmpire | It was funny poking at one point, but now its annoying for you guys to shoot at the enormous target that is a successful billionaire with a shady(???) past |
| 00:22.40 | Zillafire101 | Yeah, and melted a guy's face with acid. My dad wasn't to happy with my mom when he found out what I watching. |
| 00:23.18 | Monet | I thought it was usually dads who exposed their kinds to stuff like that. |
| 00:23.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... XD |
| 00:24.53 | Zillafire101 | Yeah, he tended to be just a tad protective. |
| 00:25.05 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kingdom_of_Barangin#Military - Added more to this |
| 00:27.29 | DrodoEmpire | Thoughts? |
| 00:28.33 | Zillafire101 | I like it. I think the Varitai might be my favorite. |
| 00:28.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I based them off of the Hakkapeliitta |
| 00:31.35 | Zillafire101 | The Finnish Cavalry unit right? |
| 00:31.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 00:32.02 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Nice stuff there, glad to see you've started adding info on the Lial, although I'd like to see that Culture section filled in at some point |
| 00:32.04 | Zillafire101 | I thought so. It's been a while since I read about them. |
| 00:32.08 | DrodoEmpire | They were in the Swedish service and made their reputation mostly during the Thirty Years' War |
| 00:32.17 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Yeah... I will have to go there for sure |
| 00:32.21 | Hachiman | Also feeding Ruper Murdoch feet first into a woodchipper isn't going far enough |
| 00:32.54 | The_Randomness | hachi pls |
| 00:33.05 | Monet | Let's not turn into the audiences of the Flavian Ampitheatre. |
| 00:34.35 | DrodoEmpire | Allright, time for out-of-context exerpts from the 1632 series <.< |
| 00:34.57 | DrodoEmpire | "She could see the wheels turning inside his head as he tried to make sense of this upside-down world in which they found themselves, where the most sought after Christmas presents of the day were apparently a suckling pig and a pile of potatoes, dentists were held in higher accord than emperors, and a cavalry general was Santa Claus." |
| 00:35.56 | Hachiman | hur |
| 00:35.59 | Monet | Reading contemporary French philosophy ATM so it's welcome entertainment. |
| 00:36.20 | DrodoEmpire | "Gretchen brought another child forward, a five-year-old with eager eyes. Pappenheim picked up a dried fish wrapped in yarn and handed it over. The child rattled off a string of incomprehensible dialect. Gretchen smiled. "He says he'll name it Fritz. It looks just like his uncle!"" |
| 00:36.39 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 00:39.34 | Hachiman | https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14900330_1790795801168897_8290535730552748389_n.jpg?oh=e8a6e171a7e4165964140e504e554fb8&oe=588A4646 |
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| 00:40.36 | DrodoEmpire | a y y l m a o |
| 00:40.45 | DrodoEmpire | "Chapter Three. Ingratiate yourself to an alcoholic enemy king by drinking as much as you possibly can in his company, when you don't like liquor to begin with and the stuff scares you to death because your dad was a souse." |
| 00:42.19 | DrodoEmpire | "Sometimes he found himself wondering if, in this day and age, they made wooden peg-dicks to match wooden peglegs." |
| 00:42.43 | ZF101 | Their both wood, so not much difference really. |
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| 00:48.40 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv1T94vWEAA4EKU.jpg:large |
| 00:51.08 | Zillafire101 | Test |
| 00:51.43 | DrodoEmpire | You're good |
| 00:53.27 | Zillafire101 | The link isn't opening for me. |
| 00:53.31 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 00:53.34 | Zillafire101 | So I got worried. |
| 00:53.43 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: ððð |
| 00:53.48 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 00:53.50 | Zillafire101 | Hmm. It probably is something on my end. |
| 00:53.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 00:54.18 | DrodoEmpire | Its a picture about stephen hawkings's first facebook post since opening an account |
| 00:54.55 | Cyrannian | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/86/Aegyptiacus.png/revision/latest?cb=20161103233852 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/80/Tharasavis.png/revision/latest?cb=20161104005408 - New planets, take a look |
| 00:55.34 | Zillafire101 | Ok, there is something defiantly wrong with my computer. |
| 00:56.34 | The_Randomness | Cyrannian: shiny |
| 00:57.22 | Zillafire101 | Alright, here we go. I think Tharasavis might be my favorite. Is it an underground city? |
| 00:58.21 | Cyrannian | The urbanised parts of it, yes. The planet's surface is uninhabitable |
| 00:59.48 | Zillafire101 | That's cool. |
| 01:00.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, they look good |
| 01:00.42 | Cyrannian | danke |
| 01:05.48 | DrodoEmpire | I might make an equipment inventory for the Union (Drodo Quadrant Colonies) |
| 01:06.07 | DrodoEmpire | I have a few different things that might be used by colonial soldiers |
| 01:07.48 | The_Randomness | mfw I forget that I had IRC open |
| 01:07.57 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 01:08.22 | DrodoEmpire | I had a thought that some militias might use revolvers, perhaps locally/union produced ones |
| 01:09.12 | DrodoEmpire | I had the idea that colonial marksmen would also use a different sniper rifle |
| 01:09.35 | DrodoEmpire | In particular a militarised variant of a civilian hunting rifle |
| 01:09.47 | DrodoEmpire | Or maybe a modernised variant of an old military rifle |
| 01:10.01 | DrodoEmpire | (like an ancient bolt-action) |
| 01:27.32 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe... Ooh |
| 01:27.57 | DrodoEmpire | I just had an idea that perhaps its actually a purpose-made sniper rifle, which is made to be cheap and mass-producable |
| 01:28.27 | DrodoEmpire | So perhaps the designer contracted bases the weapon on an old Mauser design, or the Lee-Enfield |
| 01:36.51 | DrodoEmpire | Seems like they're adding all kinds of wastelands in the next EUIV update |
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| 01:38.06 | Zillafire101 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Tribes_of_Mendel - How does this look guys? |
| 01:38.20 | DrodoEmpire | I was just taking a peek |
| 01:39.17 | Zillafire101 | I was worried my internet cut out. Again. |
| 01:40.16 | DrodoEmpire | Seems good, so far |
| 01:40.40 | DrodoEmpire | Though I'd define their weaknesses or strengths a bit more, if that makes sense |
| 01:40.50 | Zillafire101 | I get what you mean. |
| 01:41.00 | DrodoEmpire | I used to and sometimes still do this, but you seem to be in a habit of saying that they're one thing, but also the other |
| 01:41.13 | DrodoEmpire | Not necessarily bad, but it doesn't say much when its overdone if you get me |
| 01:41.19 | Zillafire101 | I've been focusing on their fictional counter-parts more, so I haven't had time to work on them as much. |
| 01:41.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, fair enough |
| 01:42.01 | DrodoEmpire | Otherwise, its a strong start with a lot there |
| 01:42.05 | Zillafire101 | Your Barangin Kindom inspired me to hit at it again. |
| 01:42.11 | DrodoEmpire | Oh great |
| 01:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks for that |
| 01:42.46 | Zillafire101 | Thank you. ^^ |
| 01:46.36 | DrodoEmpire | (I can help with warfare, by the way, if you wish) |
| 01:48.54 | Zillafire101 | I've started working on that a bit. Mostly based on Celtic warfare from Roman and Medieval times. |
| 01:49.10 | Zillafire101 | You want to take a glance at that to? |
| 01:50.51 | DrodoEmpire | Sure. |
| 01:53.18 | Zillafire101 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Tribes_of_Mendel/Warrior-Legion |
| 01:54.52 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps a nitpick, but quick thing |
| 01:55.00 | DrodoEmpire | Before the modern era, the middle class was almost nonexistent |
| 01:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | The middle class was basically a tiny cohort of merchants and artisans, who lived in large cities |
| 01:55.29 | Zillafire101 | Hm. |
| 01:55.36 | Tek0516 | Hm... It's probably an issue for my ship design when all but one ship of one class is destroyed and all of another survives. >.> |
| 01:55.58 | DrodoEmpire | They did make up a sizable amount of, say, a city militia (the English Trained Bands come to mind) but they generally never made up the fighting men on campign |
| 01:56.03 | DrodoEmpire | *campaign |
| 01:56.31 | DrodoEmpire | That was the lower-class folk from the countryside, usually |
| 01:56.36 | Zillafire101 | Well, I'll just have to change that. |
| 01:56.41 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah just a wee thing |
| 01:57.09 | Zillafire101 | How's the rest though? |
| 01:57.25 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its pretty good thusfar |
| 01:57.37 | DrodoEmpire | I'm guessing this is mostly an experienced citizen militia/militia? |
| 01:58.00 | DrodoEmpire | (This was the norm for most of history, in particular the classical/medieval era) |
| 01:58.57 | Zillafire101 | Yep. |
| 01:59.05 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 01:59.24 | Zillafire101 | I'm digging through some Celtic history to try and find some interesting stuff, though the whole lack of writting makes it difficult. |
| 01:59.34 | DrodoEmpire | I can imagine yeah |
| 01:59.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hahh gallowglasses |
| 01:59.40 | DrodoEmpire | nice |
| 02:00.17 | Zillafire101 | Thanks. |
| 02:01.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I do like it |
| 02:02.51 | Tek0516 | ...and that "all but one" ship died. So in this Stellaris war that means one cruiser type was entirely destroyed and another all survived. ...I think it's time to stop making two types of cruiser. :P |
| 02:04.04 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 02:14.05 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/ky3JD "Go France!!!" "Hell yeah" |
| 02:51.33 | Tek0516 | ...I also just realized I've rather appropriately been pairing my Stellaris session with a Star Trek binge. :P |
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| 04:23.26 | Tek0516 | Huzzah. Two empire crushed under my power. |
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| 07:20.56 | NeonPanda | hi all |
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| 07:22.03 | Spluff5 | Yo |
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| 10:47.10 | Hachiman | Hi |
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| 11:04.59 | Imperios | Hellow |
| 11:05.01 | Imperios | Hello |
| 11:05.05 | Imperios | Happy Poland-killing day |
| 11:07.22 | Hachiman | poland cannot into life |
| 11:12.25 | Technobliterator | Some of my family are Polish |
| 11:12.26 | Technobliterator | ;_; |
| 11:13.31 | Technobliterator | and now bbl |
| 11:17.55 | OluapPlayer | wut |
| 11:36.26 | Polekillerios | OluapPlayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Day_(Russia) |
| 11:49.00 | Hachiman | Polekillerios: http://i.imgur.com/puQMsrs.png?1 So I updated an old character |
| 11:49.16 | Polekillerios | That's Riza? |
| 11:49.17 | Hachiman | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5e/R%27hiza.png/revision/latest?cb=20150307211134 Previous version for reference |
| 11:49.29 | Polekillerios | Why is she yellow tho |
| 11:49.36 | Hachiman | Because half-elf |
| 11:49.47 | Hachiman | I dunno, I could make her skin darker |
| 11:51.30 | Polekillerios | Hachiman: Speaking of elves |
| 11:51.31 | Polekillerios | http://pre07.deviantart.net/f3cc/th/pre/i/2016/309/6/3/_wh40__dark_eldar_sasha_grey_by_sigridmarialer-dancxuo.png |
| 11:51.33 | Polekillerios | kek |
| 11:51.47 | Hachiman | hur |
| 11:52.29 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/aFZhlXv.png?1 Yeah she looks better with actual red skin |
| 11:53.18 | Polekillerios | Yeah that looks sweet |
| 11:53.53 | Hachiman | I'm planning to buff her alongside |
| 11:54.08 | Polekillerios | As in muscles or tits |
| 11:54.17 | Hachiman | As in magical power hur |
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| 12:00.35 | Hachiman | Polekillerios: Gimme a fancy title for R'hiza which pertains to fire |
| 12:00.49 | Polekillerios | Flamewaker |
| 12:01.28 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 12:04.50 | Hachiman | Also could you give me a revised name for her ship? |
| 12:05.03 | Hachiman | Broken Sun is nice but I feel like there could be a bit more umph |
| 12:12.38 | Polekillerios | Hm |
| 12:13.42 | Polekillerios | Golden Pure |
| 12:13.44 | Polekillerios | Pyre |
| 12:14.42 | Hachiman | Hm I like it |
| 12:27.14 | Polekillerios | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1478209515240.png I fucking died |
| 12:30.54 | Hachiman | Oh my fucking God |
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| 13:49.56 | Monet | hi |
| 13:50.02 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 13:50.40 | Monet | Bloody hell did I have my phone client open all night? |
| 13:55.22 | Tek0516 | Lol |
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| 13:59.38 | Xho | ACK ACK ACK ACK ACK |
| 14:00.38 | Monet | hands Xho a can of spinach. |
| 14:01.52 | Monet | I'm glad Charles is not here because |
| 14:01.58 | Monet | French Philosophy: OWWWWW |
| 14:02.58 | Monet | I'm getting a headache reading the proposals by 20th century French philosophers. |
| 14:03.02 | Xho | We talking about the Spanish Inquisition or something |
| 14:03.43 | Monet | Descartes was testing the waters compared to what I'm reading. |
| 14:03.51 | Xho | cognito ergo fuck up |
| 14:05.28 | Monet | (Reading the works of Jean Baudrillard if anyone's heard of him) |
| 14:05.37 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: one of u guys gonna make riomara's page or wut |
| 14:05.41 | Xho | Monet: yup |
| 14:05.58 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 14:06.00 | OluapPlayer | And no |
| 14:06.01 | Xho | and hi |
| 14:06.02 | Xho | and why |
| 14:06.14 | Xho | or y because I'm not being serious |
| 14:06.16 | Xho | y |
| 14:07.20 | Xho | Eh I could hazard a guess |
| 14:07.33 | Hachiman | Xho: Compare http://i.imgur.com/mvqZCmb.png and http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5e/R%27hiza.png/revision/latest?cb=20161104115658 |
| 14:07.33 | Monet | Xho: Then you know the extent of my pain. |
| 14:07.51 | Xho | huh well |
| 14:08.08 | Xho | I like the hairstyle more on the older model but everything else on the newer one |
| 14:08.15 | OluapPlayer | I just don't find it necessary |
| 14:08.15 | Xho | So all in all +1 |
| 14:08.24 | Xho | OluapPlayer: That was pretty much my guess hur |
| 14:08.47 | Xho | >nose ring Longinus - gonna be all over that like sunshine on a rock |
| 14:08.57 | Hachiman | kek |
| 14:11.15 | Xho | I should really remake Pelagrios since he's probably my oldest remaining model |
| 14:12.55 | Xho | Gonna see if there's any older models |
| 14:13.18 | Xho | Generic Shiarchon is pretty old |
| 14:13.37 | Xho | I don't think Imp has seen the new Servius model either |
| 14:13.45 | Hachiman | I think he might have |
| 14:13.58 | Xho | I might remake Julianus as well |
| 14:14.50 | Hachiman | shud remake valentinianus |
| 14:16.05 | Xho | ded tho |
| 14:16.13 | Xho | Julianus isn't dead in canon |
| 14:16.42 | Xho | A bit fucked up but not dead |
| 14:17.55 | Xho | Arcturus is also alive as well |
| 14:18.37 | Xho | In terms of explanation he was recovered from Julianus' quarters during Azhnatmukand's evacuation |
| 14:19.01 | Xho | Julianus on the other hand survived getting thrown off the balcony by Norrigan and was washed up on the shore |
| 14:19.14 | Xho | Some other place |
| 14:20.37 | Xho | Winter of Discontent is actually centered around those two rising out of the Legion's dissolved and chaotic power struggle |
| 14:23.05 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 14:23.10 | Hachiman | That's gonna be curious |
| 14:24.06 | Hachiman | Xho: https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/14632917_854091908063321_3213156916949388809_n.png?oh=cd6bd07e9859f04be9ea5a376fcf9c7b&oe=588825E1 |
| 14:24.15 | Xho | excellent |
| 14:24.35 | Xho | Of course Julianus and Arcturus are going to be enemies but there will be two major new factions out of it |
| 14:25.13 | Xho | New Adravaelic Empire (Julianus) and the Adravaelic Senate or something (Arcturus) |
| 14:26.02 | Xho | Julianus is basically going to continue his rule over a larger space with more brutality than Kalarah had, and also as an irreligious nation |
| 14:26.14 | Xho | Arcturus is actually smart and will move for democratic motives |
| 14:26.55 | Xho | Oh and then there's also the Prophets of Abyssus who will reject both of them and have their own motives to hopefully wipe both off them off the map |
| 14:27.04 | Xho | of* |
| 14:27.12 | Hachiman | Gonna be strange having irreligious Shiarchon |
| 14:27.21 | Hachiman | So they'd no longer rely on the Void for stuff? |
| 14:27.27 | Xho | Nope |
| 14:27.45 | Xho | Since Kalarah's influence is gone the Shiarchon's deformities as well as Abyssus' climate will reverse |
| 14:28.10 | Xho | Although considering Julianus is twelve feet of pure evil he might stay the same |
| 14:28.50 | Xho | Abyssus though will start growing green again, although not before the winter which will be pretty dismal to say the least |
| 14:29.32 | OluapPlayer | Kebra'Osos - TREEEEEEES |
| 14:29.41 | Xho | Although since the Arcadian Convergence begins over that winter it might make the winter even colder than usual due to good old aetheromantic pheonomena |
| 14:30.23 | Xho | So Abyssus will be super cold since there's 1) a magical phenomena that causes winter to be super cold 2) no vegetation |
| 14:31.02 | Xho | super cold winter is subjective of course, I'm only doing it over my settings |
| 14:31.38 | OluapPlayer | Merovar - it's one degree less on the scale of "really hot" |
| 14:31.50 | Xho | Merovar - something's wrong here |
| 14:32.05 | Xho | It might be super cold winters or prolonged winters perhaps |
| 14:32.13 | Xho | i.e. might go right into spring rather than ending at spring |
| 14:32.31 | Hachiman | So standard British winter |
| 14:32.42 | Xho | Well more like Scandinavian winter |
| 14:32.52 | OluapPlayer | Shiarchon - why is it raining so much |
| 14:32.54 | Hachiman | Always winter in Scandinavia hur |
| 14:33.34 | Xho | But Winter of Discontent will basically be three months of Shiarchon in-fighting |
| 14:33.44 | Xho | Maybe five |
| 14:34.20 | Xho | That being said it will begin immediately after they're forced to quit going for the Archipelago |
| 14:35.10 | Xho | Once Kalarah loses confidence in it the Shiarchon immediately start to fragment and while some will surrender/retreat others will fight or fight among themselves |
| 14:35.24 | Xho | Thanks to the capricious infrastructure of the Praetors who are all backstabbers |
| 14:36.09 | Xho | Since Arcturus and Julianus are probably the two most powerful Praetors they will have the power to sway other Praetors to their own power |
| 14:41.31 | Monet | so will it mostly be Arcturus supporters vs Julianus supporters? |
| 14:41.59 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 14:42.14 | Xho | They will still be powerhouses in terms of sheer force they can muster |
| 14:42.37 | Xho | Arcturus' main concern would be to open relations with the rest of Koldenwelt |
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| 15:00.15 | Charles_Bot | Arghhhhh |
| 15:00.25 | Charles_Bot | This week's issue of the Economist isn't downloading |
| 15:01.16 | Tek0516 | XD |
| 15:01.37 | Monet | Wierd coincidence |
| 15:01.46 | Monet | I bough that issue today XD. |
| 15:02.22 | Xho | x d |
| 15:02.33 | Charles_Bot | Damn you |
| 15:02.53 | Hachiman | ecks dee |
| 15:02.57 | Monet | I was out shopping. |
| 15:03.47 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KsiPnK3c/IMG_0911.PNG |
| 15:03.48 | Charles_Bot | This issue doe |
| 15:03.58 | Charles_Bot | I love the Economist |
| 15:04.15 | Monet | That's...not the issue I have |
| 15:04.34 | Monet | Wait |
| 15:04.38 | Charles_Bot | Look at the date |
| 15:04.40 | Monet | That's feb-March no wonder |
| 15:04.45 | Charles_Bot | This one is very old xD |
| 15:05.37 | Monet | If it's any form of karma Charles. I've had to read the works of Jean Baudrillard today. |
| 15:05.42 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/fHsz6nXR/IMG_0912.PNG |
| 15:05.55 | Charles_Bot | This is probably the one you have |
| 15:06.05 | Monet | It is |
| 15:06.51 | Monet | "Lord Farage: A Peerless Appointment" I can feel my skin crawling |
| 15:07.34 | Charles_Bot | What was he appointed to? |
| 15:09.53 | Monet | The possibility of admitting Nigel Farage into the HoL |
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| 15:10.14 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 15:10.17 | Monet | Hi |
| 15:12.22 | Monet | I've lost count how many times Nigel Farage has vowed to step down only to reappear a week or two later. |
| 15:12.55 | Hachiman | Just because he steps down from things doesn't mean he's not gonna step up again |
| 15:13.17 | Monet | He keeps claiming resignment or retirement |
| 15:14.10 | Monet | Id rather he make up his mind whether he's staying or going. |
| 15:14.17 | Charles_Bot | Alright, finally got access xD |
| 15:17.29 | Wormydroid | I always thought he was trolling |
| 15:18.28 | Monet | It might be he keeps doing it to sway his fans. |
| 15:22.35 | Wormydroid | Test |
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| 15:29.36 | Wormydroid_ | Submitted a report worth 25% of my module today, checked it three times today before submitting but now getting the "what ifs" |
| 15:30.23 | Wormydroid_ | Masters is very different to a degree in that it has to be right the first time |
| 15:32.35 | Wormydroid_ | Test |
| 15:37.54 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 15:38.04 | Hachiman | Some of Biden's emails were made public recently |
| 15:38.34 | Charles_Bot | What is with democrats and emails |
| 15:38.43 | Wormydroid_ | Lol |
| 15:39.48 | Hachiman | https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p160x160/14915674_1775288292710109_2769995898774984134_n.jpg?oh=99b08e36f256ad426d917d6af46af835&oe=58985A7D This was one of them it seems |
| 15:41.25 | Charles_Bot | Can't find it on Wikileaks, that's probably fake |
| 15:42.01 | Hachiman | https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8882 Here |
| 15:44.59 | Monet | This kind of leak feels...weak. |
| 15:45.29 | Hachiman | Weak but fucking hilarious |
| 15:45.48 | Charles_Bot | The snickers machine in the White House has been a running gag for a while, though yeah that's really funny |
| 15:50.51 | Monet | How long is a while? THese emails are dated 2015 |
| 15:52.51 | Monet | "Nothing in the Constitoosh says I can't be Vice President" - Jeb Bush. Spoken like his brother. |
| 15:55.02 | Monet | Huh, so Hilary does yoga? |
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| 16:00.50 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 16:03.09 | Wormydroid | http://m.phys.org/news/2016-11-amelia-earhart-died-castaway.html |
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| 16:06.01 | Hachiman | Fucking internet |
| 16:06.14 | Hachiman | Monet2 / MonetAway: Shame she can't do yoga on her face |
| 16:07.07 | Wormydroid | Lolwut |
| 16:13.09 | Wormydroid | I watched this interesting film called Chronicle, last nught |
| 16:13.55 | Wormydroid | These three high school students gain extreme telekinetic powers, think its q laygh at first, then shit gets real |
| 16:15.59 | Wormydroid | *laugh |
| 16:19.32 | Wormydroid | Two ladies behind me on the train having a very pleasant conversation about impetigo, scepsis, hepatitis and chicken pox :| |
| 16:19.42 | Wormydroid | And loud |
| 16:24.19 | Hachiman | Chronicle's a pretty good film |
| 16:25.28 | Monet | Hachiman: Not sure what that means but she doesn't look bad for 69 |
| 16:25.46 | Hachiman | She looks like a loose skin suit |
| 16:26.13 | Monet | https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/hillary-clinton-21.jpg?quality=85&w=1100 not to me |
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| 16:27.46 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 16:31.01 | Wormydroid | I really can't wait for this experiment http://m.phys.org/news/2016-11-effort-image-black-hole-chance.html |
| 16:31.02 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 16:32.22 | The_Randomness | :o |
| 16:35.10 | The_Randomness | Wormydroid: that sounds really cool |
| 16:36.01 | Wormydroid | Indeed |
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| 16:48.57 | Charles_Bot | Hey Dino |
| 17:04.32 | dino82_ | hi |
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| 17:09.17 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 17:18.29 | Monet | So...I just found an interesting graph |
| 17:18.40 | Monet | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwbbWhSWEAEh0aH.jpg:large wealth distribution across the New Eden playerbase |
| 17:22.42 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.15 | Tek0516 | Monet: I somehow find that both surprising and unsurprising at the same time. |
| 17:31.59 | Monet | I'd say one of the few things suffering inflation is game time cards. |
| 17:32.09 | Monet | I think a single one is like a trillion ISK now |
| 17:32.20 | Tek0516 | Huh |
| 17:33.09 | Monet | 1.2-1.4, oh, billion. |
| 17:35.25 | Monet | Huh...actually it seems rather stable |
| 17:36.21 | Tek0516 | I remember reading an article from a few years ago that mentioned it worth being hundreds of millions so potentially it has gone up |
| 17:37.01 | Tek0516 | Though I think the article also specifically mentioned the devs controlling its value. |
| 17:37.39 | Monet | It used to be something like 400 million a long time ago |
| 17:38.59 | Monet | PLEX is the only way to measure the value of ISK - in the real world they value at $9.99 |
| 17:39.08 | Monet | £9.99 sorry |
| 17:41.14 | Tek0516 | Yeah, it seems like the closest measure of equivalent RL trading. |
| 17:43.21 | Monet | The value of PLEX at the time was how Forbes came out saying the B-R5RB Bloodbath cost over $300,000 collars |
| 17:45.51 | Tek0516 | Yeah, I guessed that much. |
| 17:47.51 | Xho | pl0x |
| 17:48.23 | Xho | Hachiman: gibe de snikers b0ss |
| 17:50.48 | Tek0516 | The concept of PLEX trading and its economic effects are interesting. |
| 17:51.22 | Xho | Right I'm actually gonna remake Pelagrios now |
| 17:51.30 | Xho | Should I remake him for 35 NA or for 42 NA |
| 17:51.38 | Xho | 42 NA Pelagrios is a little different |
| 17:52.05 | Monet | Tek0516: The game's 5% I think are part of the PLEX trading community. |
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| 17:52.37 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 17:52.42 | Monet | They take billions out of the system, or transfer billions in exchange for no subscription fees. |
| 17:52.43 | Monet | Hi |
| 17:52.57 | Tek0516 | Monet: In game terms how much is that PLEX worth? It sounds like a lot so I have to wonder if new users with a few dollars to spare could exploit it for a significant head start. |
| 17:54.18 | Monet | Most tech I technology ships are anywhere between 30,000 ISK to a couple of million. |
| 17:54.45 | Monet | Most players might not even see a single billion for years outside of corporate wallets. |
| 17:55.22 | Tek0516 | Huh. So quite significant then. |
| 17:56.32 | Monet | Indeed. |
| 17:57.28 | Monet | The guys at the top end? Consider that as shown last night, there's around 933 quadrillion ISK floating about New Eden |
| 17:58.18 | Tek0516 | Thinking about how much just that $10 can potentially get you also puts into perspective the scale of that $300,000 battle. |
| 17:59.17 | Xho | guys pls |
| 18:00.35 | Monet | I think the current playerbase is around 400,000 |
| 18:00.57 | Tek0516 | I'm just getting deeply curious about fictional economies. Just another day in #sporewiki. :P |
| 18:02.26 | Xho | Hachiman: 34 NA Pelagrios or 42 NA Pelagrios |
| 18:02.40 | Hachiman | Eh? |
| 18:03.17 | Monet | Which means the top 2,000 players are worth 860 quadrillion ISK combined. |
| 18:03.36 | Xho | new spore model |
| 18:03.40 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 18:03.43 | Hachiman | boff |
| 18:03.46 | Xho | fukn |
| 18:03.49 | Xho | alright why not |
| 18:05.23 | Monet | So the top 5% are worth around 430trln ISK each. But that I think is a vast underestimation. |
| 18:05.55 | Tek0516 | That's cash reserves only, right? |
| 18:06.11 | Monet | Cash reserves only |
| 18:07.17 | Tek0516 | So that skips over assets like ships, and if I'm reading this right their presumably substantial corporate accounts |
| 18:07.59 | Monet | Correct. So my estimates might be incorrect as I was using the 933qdrln ISK value I found the other day |
| 18:09.17 | Monet | But unlike the real world, EVE players don't usually funnel most of their income into solid assets. There's no real-estate market in EVE and only a rather niche stock market. So most of their money is going into ships, equipment and ammunition. |
| 18:10.11 | Tek0516 | Of course. |
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| 18:11.29 | Imperios | Hi |
| 18:11.44 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:13.26 | Monet | If my maths are right. 90% of 933 quadrillion ISK shared among the top to provide 430trln per person means each one has an ingame bank account worth 358.3 thousand pounds/dollars/whichever |
| 18:13.41 | Tek0516 | So according to those graphs roughly a quarter is in those corporate accounts. |
| 18:14.19 | Tek0516 | But I have to imagine it's "direct" ownership is almost entirely that 5%. |
| 18:14.44 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.facebook.com/MrTechnicalDifficult/videos/1762625730451456/ |
| 18:14.58 | Monet | The overwhelming majority most likely |
| 18:15.10 | Xho | good gried |
| 18:15.13 | Xho | grief |
| 18:15.21 | Tek0516 | Also jfc on that estimated RL value. |
| 18:16.30 | Monet | Next time I log on I'll check some numbers, I'm in an alliance of 550 and they like to publish monthly (or was it quarterly, cant' recall) turnover reports. |
| 18:16.42 | Tek0516 | So quite possibly the richest of that 5% are virtual millionaires when it comes to RL value. |
| 18:17.31 | Monet | And the top 1-0.1% are our virtual billionaires. |
| 18:18.46 | Monet | Wait read that wrong |
| 18:19.04 | Monet | Yeah, and I believe the Mittani is likely one of them. |
| 18:22.04 | Monet | But none of this RL money can be taken out of the game. |
| 18:22.54 | Monet | I actually just realised something more SPorewiki related. |
| 18:24.32 | Monet | A long time ago I estimated the GDP of the DI was around not sure, 13 sextillion mimidian credits. |
| 18:25.29 | Monet | Inserting the 80-20 principle made my mind explode. |
| 18:25.42 | Monet | From big numberitis* |
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| 18:27.36 | Monet | If my numbers are right, the top 20% of DI citizens control over 10 sextillion credits' worth of the wealth. But I got thinking that it might be more extreme |
| 18:44.13 | OluapPlayer | holla holla get dolla |
| 18:46.15 | Wormy_ | wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0zqF3l0TsI |
| 18:47.37 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Mucho Robert deNiro |
| 18:49.19 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14906863_1141713792573152_6770128756760767016_n.jpg?oh=d8ce8291c3647618e37dd2ddcb5e0f0f&oe=588A71AC |
| 18:57.59 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: I saw that <.< |
| 18:59.08 | Wormy_ | ear rape at the end |
| 19:00.16 | Xho | Hachiman: life |
| 19:00.57 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/dd/Pelagrios2017.png/revision/latest?cb=20161104190021 So, Pelagrios c. 42 NA |
| 19:01.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh nice |
| 19:01.36 | Hachiman | Doesn't look in too fine a shape |
| 19:01.51 | Xho | Well he's aged a tiny bit |
| 19:01.58 | Xho | The rest is not-so-divine intervention |
| 19:02.32 | Xho | In the time between 34 NA and 42 NA he has a bit of an altercation concerning Asv-Aldz to be short |
| 19:04.26 | Xho | In more detail, the Deathdealers start hunting Pelagrios down for the sheer value of his being |
| 19:04.39 | Hachiman | R'hiza - tfw im 50 and im still hotta dan u |
| 19:05.39 | Xho | So instead of being taken by the Deathdealers he becomes a part of Asv-Aldz' little game at the price of basically losing his humane side |
| 19:07.04 | Xho | And while this makes him theoretically unliving again he becomes more or less a pirate king in his own right hence the fancy armour |
| 19:08.22 | OluapPlayer | rip |
| 19:09.32 | Monet | The armour is pretty fancy |
| 19:10.18 | Xho | Although the cost isn't also becoming dreadfully immortal again but also at the deal of repaying the Deathdealers |
| 19:10.34 | Xho | And they only deal in souls so adding two and two together |
| 19:11.32 | Xho | Basically he has to give enough souls back to the Deathdealers so they match the value of his own |
| 19:11.46 | Xho | And they value Pelagrios very highly |
| 19:12.50 | Xho | That being said, it doesn't mean they'll make him mortal again if he does pay them back |
| 19:12.53 | Xho | Asv-Aldz isn't that nice |
| 19:13.56 | Monet | lovely |
| 19:16.09 | Xho | Even if he does Pelagrios has a long life ahead of him anyway so basically his life is misery incarnate |
| 19:18.01 | Monet | I don't know if it's apt but a saying comes to mind |
| 19:18.56 | Monet | "Those who play with the Devil's toys, will be brought by degrees to wield his sword" - Buckminster Fuller |
| 19:19.22 | Xho | more or less |
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| 19:28.48 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Monet DrodoEmpire Tek0516 tweaking the infobox on this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gorge_Dispute |
| 19:28.52 | Charles_Murray | What do you guys think? |
| 19:29.28 | Monet | THat's...that's a hell of a lot of opposition. |
| 19:29.54 | Tek0516 | That combatants list. XD |
| 19:30.07 | Hachiman | Holy shit |
| 19:30.11 | Tek0516 | I know it's almost all French territories, but still. :P |
| 19:30.20 | Hachiman | Surely the Rambo aren't that hated |
| 19:30.24 | Monet | If there's any sign that Rambert's dun goofed, it's there. |
| 19:30.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well, they made a really really unwise decision and pissed off several major powers and the aligned states |
| 19:30.49 | Imperios | Tansimael - FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT |
| 19:31.05 | DrodoEmpire | About half of that list is Heer Stevekel states, to be fair |
| 19:31.13 | Tek0516 | Hachiman: Well he managed to provoke France and all the nations its friendly with by practically threatening wat. |
| 19:31.17 | Tek0516 | *war |
| 19:31.24 | Monet | Hachiman: He pretty much alienated the entire Neutrality Zone. |
| 19:31.28 | DrodoEmpire | But they are independent nations and thus should be on there |
| 19:31.50 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 The Heer Stekeveel states are independent, not French territories |
| 19:31.57 | Tek0516 | Right |
| 19:32.14 | Monet | The RoG and FA are French territories. |
| 19:32.25 | Charles_Murray | ^ And Gran Colombia |
| 19:32.27 | Charles_Murray | That's about it |
| 19:32.28 | Tek0516 | But yeah, Rambert screwed up big time. :P |
| 19:32.56 | DrodoEmpire | Newly independent, anyway. The HS were ruled by a Drodo margravate for a while |
| 19:34.14 | Charles_Murray | Hachiman : Long story short, Rambert built a militarized wall around a section of space and told everyone in it he would kill them if they tried to get out |
| 19:35.06 | Monet | High King Rambert "BUILDAWALL" Ramveral. |
| 19:36.15 | Charles_Murray | Am I missing anyone from that combatants list? |
| 19:36.32 | Monet | Those opponents who aren't Gorge locals prefer the Neutrality Zone to have open contact with the Quadrants. |
| 19:36.33 | Charles_Murray | (Well, this isn't actually a war, it's a diplomatic dispute, so there's no shooting involved) |
| 19:36.36 | Charles_Murray | (Yet) |
| 19:36.48 | Monet | Give Rambert time |
| 19:37.13 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: I think it's time for Tansimael to rush in and try to take advantage of the crisis |
| 19:37.19 | Monet | If he goes full racist in the coming summit it might be fair of the Allies to throw their arms in the air. |
| 19:38.07 | Monet | Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me thrice, okay you're a fucking idiot I give up. |
| 19:38.08 | Imperios | What I find weird is why racism is such a serious thing in the Gig |
| 19:38.13 | Tek0516 | Imperios: Well it's a crisis but it's basically Rambert going full "Make Rambo Great Again" on multiple superpowers. |
| 19:38.15 | Charles_Murray | Monet: Does the Draconid Imperium belong in the "supported by" column, or full-on opponent? |
| 19:38.21 | Hachiman | IT'LL BE THE GREATEST WALL |
| 19:38.25 | Hachiman | AND THE FRENCH WILL PAY FOR IT |
| 19:38.27 | Imperios | From what I've seen, the Gig is not as PC IRL |
| 19:38.29 | Imperios | as RL |
| 19:39.06 | Charles_Murray | Imperios : How do you mean? |
| 19:39.12 | Charles_Murray | Hachiman : Basically lol |
| 19:39.14 | DrodoEmpire | Well, I'm not a fan of Political Correctness at all >.< But its fair to say that a lot of the Gigaquadrant holds pretty genuine bigotry |
| 19:39.27 | DrodoEmpire | Or racist ideas |
| 19:39.30 | Monet | Rambert was rather unapologetically anti-Terran. |
| 19:39.38 | Imperios | There's PC and then there is common sense |
| 19:40.05 | Imperios | You don't throw an N-word in a ghetto and expect to be sympathised with once you get into trouble |
| 19:40.23 | Monet | I think I recall him admitting he was in the "humans are too divided to be spacefaring" group. |
| 19:40.31 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah, not being a bigot is probably the best state of affairs |
| 19:40.39 | DrodoEmpire | But that's a different discussion |
| 19:41.42 | Monet | It does seem like anyone who isn't part of some universal best friends club is an easy target for bigotry. |
| 19:41.50 | Charles_Murray | Monet : Well no, his words were "I don't trust terrans because they're divided and quarrelsome" |
| 19:42.39 | Monet | And that line is my point exactly |
| 19:43.20 | Monet | Rambert has argued humans are untrustworthy because they're don't agree with each other all the time. |
| 19:45.12 | Xho | Kicath - he's right u kno |
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| 19:50.02 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
| 19:53.35 | Monet | Draconis - Still a poor reason to ignore their potential. |
| 19:54.31 | Groxkiller98 | Hm? |
| 19:55.01 | Imperios | Tansimael - HUMANS EVERYWHERE HUMANS WILL DOOM US ALL |
| 19:55.10 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 19:56.02 | Groxkiller98 | I don't think any Mithadorn even knows what a human is, save for a few politicians. |
| 19:57.31 | Monet | I have a feeling the Royal Academy might be in the camp of seeing humans as beings of infinite potential |
| 19:58.13 | Monet | One reason being they're quite inclined towards finding any technique or method to improve themselves |
| 19:58.43 | Tek0516 | Groxkiller98: Considering France is one of the dominant powers of the Gigaquadrant I find that unlikely. |
| 19:59.04 | Groxkiller98 | And the Mithadorn tend to stay out of politics. XD |
| 19:59.55 | Groxkiller98 | The most of a reaction they might get is "Humans? You mean those pale things in the Ecume?" |
| 20:00.16 | Monet | Yeah there are plenty of humans in the Ecumene |
| 20:00.18 | Tek0516 | Still there's no way they haven't heard of the galaxy spanning empires of the Gigaquadrant. >.> |
| 20:00.22 | Monet | Not just in France |
| 20:00.22 | Groxkiller98 | Mind you, the Mithadorn sit in the middle of the least governed space in Andromeda. |
| 20:00.37 | Groxkiller98 | And barely wave at their neighbors. |
| 20:01.14 | Monet | Space has the advantage of being really, really, big. |
| 20:01.25 | Groxkiller98 | Exactly. |
| 20:01.56 | Groxkiller98 | And the Mithadorn huddle in a corner at the edge of the very, very big room, of a very, very big house, which makes up Andromeda. |
| 20:02.13 | Groxkiller98 | They've barely even spoken of the Ecume, as much as they pretend to be in good relations with them. |
| 20:02.25 | Groxkiller98 | "Trust us, they like us!" "Do they even know we exist?" |
| 20:07.15 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 20:07.44 | Groxkiller98 | Say, does the Dominion of the Xhodocto plan to wake up anytime soon? |
| 20:07.56 | Imperios | Groxkiller98: "WE'RE RELEVANT WE SWEARE" |
| 20:08.07 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 20:08.20 | Groxkiller98 | I have a few crazy cultists maybe willing to help. |
| 20:08.39 | Groxkiller98 | Also, they want to summon a Demon on Sulsua. |
| 20:09.10 | Groxkiller98 | Like... a big one. |
| 20:09.37 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe even one of the Xhodocto themselves - Though that'd obviously never succeed. |
| 20:10.13 | Charles_Bot | Welp |
| 20:10.14 | Monet | I don't think a Xhodocto can be summoned |
| 20:10.22 | Groxkiller98 | "Yes! The Master is summoned!" *Universe pops out of existence.* |
| 20:10.25 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
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| 20:12.23 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe, Xho permitting, they could summon an avatar of one of them? |
| 20:12.30 | Xho | wtf what's going on |
| 20:12.33 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 20:12.52 | Groxkiller98 | My crazy cult of Xhodocto worshippers. |
| 20:12.56 | Xho | ah |
| 20:13.07 | Xho | Monet: Summoning a Xhodocto is possible but you have to be a person of interest |
| 20:13.19 | Groxkiller98 | The one you let me have. :P |
| 20:13.44 | Tek0516 | Also summoning them tends to be bad for all sides. >.> |
| 20:14.00 | Groxkiller98 | They'd likely be trying to summon Santorakh. His followers are insane enough not to care. |
| 20:14.07 | Groxkiller98 | It'd be bad for everyone else, though. |
| 20:14.15 | Xho | Summoning Santorakh is usually fun |
| 20:14.16 | Xho | for Santorakh |
| 20:14.40 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 20:15.25 | Groxkiller98 | Maybe they'd summon an avatar of him. |
| 20:15.56 | Groxkiller98 | And he's so occupied being a nutter, he lets the local populace banish his utterly worthless avatar? |
| 20:16.18 | Ghelae | They could try to summon the Xhodocto but end up summoning http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Cute_Xhodocto instead. |
| 20:17.07 | Xho | Santorakh - jokes on you |
| 20:17.10 | Groxkiller98 | Haha. |
| 20:20.33 | Groxkiller98 | They're pretty stupid cultists though, trying to summon their doom. |
| 20:21.25 | OluapPlayer | Monet Imperios: I just did the Icecrown dungeons, I really liked how they were sequential |
| 20:21.36 | Imperios | Icecrown dungeons are best |
| 20:22.11 | Monet | I always remember the The Halls of Reflection being quite intense |
| 20:22.12 | Groxkiller98 | They're good. |
| 20:22.16 | OluapPlayer | Also, Red Drake get |
| 20:22.18 | Charles_Bot | In political science we call those kinds of guys by their scientific term, "useful idiots" |
| 20:23.31 | Monet | First you need to fight off all the souls harboured in Frostmourne (My experience was the group huddles in a corner and lets us run to them. The final two bosses IIRC were like Ornstien and Smough. Then you have to outrun the Lich King while he throws zombies and ghouls at you. |
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| 20:23.48 | OluapPlayer | No you fight them one at a time |
| 20:24.18 | OluapPlayer | 5 waves of souls, first death knight, 5 more waves of souls, second death knight |
| 20:24.27 | Monet | Ah okay |
| 20:24.31 | Monet | It's been a while |
| 20:24.41 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
| 20:24.54 | Monet | I was fighting though back when the level cap was 80. |
| 20:24.55 | Monet | Hi |
| 20:25.38 | OluapPlayer | Yeah I'm doing it at level 88 |
| 20:25.49 | OluapPlayer | So I kinda one-shot everything in that particular part |
| 20:26.14 | Charles_Bot | Hey ZF101 |
| 20:26.29 | Xho | OluapPlayer: op pls go 2 hi lvl zones |
| 20:26.38 | Charles_Murray | ZF101 You seen this I'm working on? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gorge_Dispute |
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| 20:27.36 | Charles_Bot | 4:26 PM <Charles_Murray> Zillafire101 You seen this I'm working on? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gorge_Dispute |
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| 20:28.16 | Charles_Bot | ... |
| 20:28.22 | ZF101_ | Jeez, I've never had that happen so many times. |
| 20:28.33 | ZF101_ | Sorry, internet isn't the best on my end. |
| 20:28.38 | Charles_Bot | 4:26 PM <Charles_Murray> ZF101_ You seen this I'm working on? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gorge_Dispute |
| 20:28.56 | ZF101_ | Yeah, I've glanced at it a bit. |
| 20:29.19 | OluapPlayer | Actually managed to get a new weapon doing heroic LK dungeons |
| 20:29.24 | ZF101_ | Looks pretty interesting. |
| 20:29.36 | OluapPlayer | I've been doing these for about 3 hours now and I still got 5 more until I'm done |
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| 20:31.10 | Hachiman | Had to restart |
| 20:33.09 | Xho | I dunno how you can get so heavily engrossed in games nowadays |
| 20:33.17 | Xho | I can't play more than 3 hours without getting bored |
| 20:34.16 | Monet | Sounds like you might be immune, or at least resistant, to game addiction Xho. |
| 20:34.28 | Xho | I've done it for a long time I guess |
| 20:34.32 | Xho | So a resistance |
| 20:34.43 | Xho | I've played games for what |
| 20:34.44 | Monet | Games these days are designed to suck in the hours. |
| 20:35.12 | Xho | nearly 22 now, first game I properly played was Spyro 3 |
| 20:35.17 | Xho | So 17 years give or take |
| 20:35.32 | Groxkiller98 | I can't stop hoping between my games every hour now. |
| 20:35.37 | Groxkiller98 | I have no attention span. |
| 20:35.54 | Xho | Last game I properly went into was...hm |
| 20:36.12 | Xho | If we're talking 100+ hours then Skyrim |
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| 20:36.36 | ZF101 | Getting real tired of this. |
| 20:37.37 | Xho | GTA V and Fallout 4 are close at around 85 hours |
| 20:37.49 | Xho | Game I've played most I guess is Spore |
| 20:37.54 | Groxkiller98 | I haven't even got those games. >_> |
| 20:38.53 | Monet | Combined I have racked 165 hours on Civ V and BE |
| 20:39.23 | Xho | So 281 hours in 2 years on Spore on Steam |
| 20:39.33 | Monet | I can still lose most of a day to a single game |
| 20:39.33 | Xho | multiply by 4 |
| 20:39.46 | Xho | 1150 hours or so on Spore |
| 20:40.40 | Xho | Probably more than that actually since I don't play it as much as I used to |
| 20:40.44 | Xho | Let's go for 2000 |
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| 20:41.48 | Zillafire101 | I swear if this connections bugs out again, I'm quiting. |
| 20:43.00 | Monet | GTA V I've lost about 370 hours at least |
| 20:43.26 | Monet | Maybe +50 for the PS3 hours |
| 20:44.24 | Monet | Hi my name's Monet47 and I'm a gameoholic. |
| 20:44.34 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 20:45.05 | Groxkiller98 | I still wanna make a Spore-esq game. But something better. |
| 20:45.50 | Groxkiller98 | I can imagine how an early civ-stage might go. |
| 20:46.09 | Groxkiller98 | Mostly soldier units that you outfit yourself. |
| 20:46.23 | Groxkiller98 | Then later on, you get vehicles. |
| 20:49.19 | Zillafire101 | Sorry, Charles_Murray, before my internet dies again, what did you want to talk about with the Gorge? |
| 20:49.33 | Zillafire101 | *So |
| 20:50.03 | Imperios | Monet: >tfw when studying and have no time for games |
| 20:50.12 | Charles_Bot | Oh nothing specific, I'm just looking to spread the word so there's a vague awareness that it's happening |
| 20:50.26 | Monet | Imperios: I know tfw man. |
| 20:50.43 | Charles_Bot | I've been told many times that people had no idea what was going on until it was over, and might have wanted to act as part of the events sooner |
| 20:51.08 | Charles_Bot | Anyone is free to participate if they wish |
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| 20:52.26 | Groxkiller98 | What's going on? |
| 20:53.09 | Charles_Bot | I'll post once in done with the intro |
| 20:53.16 | ZF101 | Oh, me? Internet's pretty screwed. |
| 20:53.45 | ZF101 | Wait, I'll try getting on here through my phone. |
| 20:58.50 | Groxkiller98 | It's crap here using mobile. |
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| 20:59.59 | Zillafire101 | Let's hope this works better. |
| 21:00.43 | Groxkiller98 | Guys, if I were to make a sci-fi game, would anyone here object to me using the fictionverse as it's lore? |
| 21:04.03 | Monet | If that's going to happen may I suggest it be a community project |
| 21:04.39 | Groxkiller98 | Of course. |
| 21:05.25 | Groxkiller98 | I'd likely focus on one galaxy, and include mentions from the others. |
| 21:08.57 | Groxkiller98 | Also, I'd probably have the Dominion be the 'Big Bad'. |
| 21:10.37 | Groxkiller98 | Because they're |
| 21:10.41 | Groxkiller98 | OP. |
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| 21:12.37 | Imperios | Xho: Am I the only person who does not like the fact that India is ALWAYS headed by Gandhi in Civ |
| 21:12.40 | Imperios | Why not Asoka or Akbar |
| 21:13.04 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:13.07 | Hachiman | literally who lol |
| 21:13.11 | Groxkiller98 | "It's a trap!" |
| 21:13.18 | Hachiman | ghandi is the only famous Indian person lmao |
| 21:13.41 | Imperios | Hachiman: Asoka, as in the first ever unifier of India |
| 21:13.46 | Imperios | Killed everyone |
| 21:13.56 | Imperios | Then realised he was an evil person and became Buddhist |
| 21:13.58 | Imperios | But kept the empire |
| 21:14.04 | Imperios | Sneaky fuck |
| 21:15.04 | Monet | Asoka was in Civ IV |
| 21:15.25 | Imperios | Holy shit I just found Gandhi's quotes in Civ VI |
| 21:15.28 | Imperios | "Declares War: I can engage in this war without sacrificing morals. Donât ask me how; you wouldnât understand. " |
| 21:15.30 | Monet | Which was the first time they tried multiple leaders. |
| 21:16.02 | Monet | Gandhi at this point is a living meme. |
| 21:16.22 | Monet | He exists for so long in Civ only because it's funny. |
| 21:17.08 | Xho | Imperios: More or less Hachi's comment on the matter |
| 21:22.40 | Charles_Mac | Groxkiller98 Here's what's going on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Gorge_Dispute |
| 21:22.56 | Charles_Mac | Page isn't completely finished yet, but at least there's a summary |
| 21:30.08 | Monet | I sort of wonder how racism in the 1st gig is as accepting as it is. Aside from the "us and them" idea earlier |
| 21:33.11 | Xho | Kicath - because STUPID HUMANS |
| 21:33.31 | Charles_Mac | France - racist |
| 21:34.19 | Xho | Kicath - actually eugenics small pink meatbags :v |
| 21:35.35 | Xho | The Kicath are notoriously racist then again they're notoriously bad everything |
| 21:36.06 | Monet | Humans get more of it than others I see |
| 21:36.28 | Xho | Kicath - they freed zhuleshxi is that not enough of a reason |
| 21:36.58 | Monet | Draconis - A bunch of em did. Not all of em. |
| 21:37.24 | Xho | Kicath - eh still enough of a reason |
| 21:38.05 | Monet | Draconis - Isn't painting an entire species or group bad because of one or five people still racism? |
| 21:38.31 | Groxkiller98 | I'm pretty sure it is. |
| 21:40.18 | Xho | Kicath - you know 800 years ago they were still ants |
| 21:40.43 | Xho | I could imagine some real hardline Kicath getting very grumpy over the fact that humans are now as advanced as they are |
| 21:41.05 | Wormy_ | If you are racist in the DCP you will be executed on spot for weakening the unified identity |
| 21:41.09 | Monet | Kicath - TOO FAST THEY'RE DEVELOPING TOO FAST |
| 21:41.38 | Xho | They'd be a little sour that it took them 170,000 years to get there and humanity got there in 800 |
| 21:41.53 | Charles_Mac | âBarriers and drawbridges like this are too easy to raise, much too hard to bring back down. But everywhere we go, we have to try. Everywhere we've been, the forces of openness and cooperation have prevailed over the voices of fear, parochialism, isolationism. This is just one more barrier, one more drawbridge, and we will cross it.â - Alexandre I, Emperor of the French |
| 21:42.14 | Monet | Draconis - One group of humans managed to go from a single city to half the Euroepan continent in 800 and another group controlled a quarter of the world in three hundred. |
| 21:42.58 | Xho | That being said, this boils down to the fact that the Kicath are typically evil in respects in human psychology |
| 21:43.11 | Xho | to |
| 21:43.17 | Monet | Draconis - Is it scary? Yes. Is it normal for them? Yes. |
| 21:44.17 | Charles_Mac | France - zero to hyperpower in 800 years |
| 21:44.19 | Groxkiller98 | Actually, Britain owned closer to 2/5ths, not 1/4. |
| 21:44.24 | Groxkiller98 | :3 |
| 21:44.30 | Xho | inb4 the Kicath do the Agent Smith monologue |
| 21:44.49 | Monet | Draconis - All intelligent life is like a virus. |
| 21:44.52 | OluapPlayer | fukin 'umies |
| 21:45.04 | OluapPlayer | nuke em |
| 21:45.12 | Xho | The Kicath aren't too far from Agent Smith really |
| 21:45.19 | Groxkiller98 | Humans - Notorious for freakishly fast everything. |
| 21:45.25 | Xho | machine-like entities that view anything less than perfect as virulent |
| 21:46.01 | Groxkiller98 | The Mithadorn are slowpokes... Ten thousand years, and only 3500 systems large. |
| 21:46.14 | Monet | I think the root of Draconid opinion on humanity is in how they were one of hundreds, thousands maybe of observed species. |
| 21:46.40 | Wormy_ | I found an anachronous map https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:British_Empire_Anachronous_4.PNG |
| 21:47.03 | Monet | WOrmy: Yeah that map combines the two empires. |
| 21:47.25 | Wormy_ | Plus some temporary territories |
| 21:47.35 | Wormy_ | And areas of influence |
| 21:48.39 | Groxkiller98 | Wikipedia - At its height, it was the largest empire in history and, for over a century, was the foremost global power.[1] By 1913 the British Empire held sway over 412 million people, 23% of the world population at the time,[2] and by 1920 it covered 35,500,000 km2 (13,700,000 sq mi),[3] 24% of the Earth's total land area.[4] As a result, its political, legal, linguistic and cultural legacy is widespread. |
| 21:48.42 | Monet | I have no idea when we had reach in Prussia and the Adriatic. |
| 21:49.29 | Monet | Wait wrong side |
| 21:49.39 | Monet | Thats...Nuremberg I think? |
| 21:50.05 | Wormy_ | I had no idea we occupied part of Japan |
| 21:50.22 | Groxkiller98 | Where do you think Japan got their ideas during WW2? |
| 21:50.24 | Groxkiller98 | Us, sadly. |
| 21:50.31 | Groxkiller98 | They just took it way too far. |
| 21:50.32 | Charles_Bot | Monet those were likely the territories inhabited by the Anglos and Saxons |
| 21:50.58 | Xho | And now we're stuck with Theresa May on a small island |
| 21:51.01 | Xho | thanks commonwealth |
| 21:51.11 | Charles_Bot | :) |
| 21:51.13 | Groxkiller98 | Screw you, Theresa! |
| 21:51.34 | Groxkiller98 | In all honesty, Democracy doesn't work, because the average voter is just a massive moron. |
| 21:51.45 | Wormy_ | We'll probably split into Ango-Saxon kindoms the way things are going, a funny circle |
| 21:51.47 | Monet | Groxkiller98: "Where do you think Japan got their ideas during WW2?" Now we're talking the Meiji Restoration. |
| 21:51.55 | Wormy_ | *fitting |
| 21:52.33 | Wormy_ | I have ancient ancestors who ruled Cumbria and Northumberland, so I will take might rightful place |
| 21:52.36 | Wormy_ | *my |
| 21:53.23 | Groxkiller98 | I shall rule the kingdom of Derby! The Nottingham Empire will be reduced to rubble! >:D |
| 21:53.45 | Wormy_ | Wrong of t'brook |
| 21:53.50 | Wormy_ | *wrong side of |
| 21:54.07 | Groxkiller98 | Do I care? I'll burn Nottingham down anyway. |
| 21:54.10 | Groxkiller98 | And watch. |
| 21:54.27 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I'm saying Snottingham is wrong side |
| 21:54.32 | Monet | If England breaks apart my current home county will return to being a country again. |
| 21:54.45 | Monet | Or I'll move to the city state of London. |
| 21:55.08 | Groxkiller98 | The city of London, hidden within Westminster, which everyone thinks is London. |
| 21:55.14 | Groxkiller98 | It confuses a lot of people. |
| 21:55.24 | Groxkiller98 | The Queen even needs to ask nicely to be let in. |
| 21:55.52 | Monet | I know about the City |
| 21:56.11 | Monet | I'm saying the other London will become a city-state |
| 21:56.24 | Groxkiller98 | IK |
| 21:56.52 | Charles_Mac | France is going to be watching across the channel with the popcorn |
| 21:56.56 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 21:56.59 | Wormy_ | The genetics and dialects from Saxon and Dane times still very much persist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:England_878.svg |
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| 21:57.08 | Groxkiller98 | Damn Frenchies. |
| 21:57.18 | Monet | Or more likely wherever the creative design market goes, I'm following. |
| 21:57.24 | Groxkiller98 | I need to go. Night. |
| 21:57.25 | Monet | Even if it means moving to L.A. |
| 21:57.31 | Xho | Groxkiller98: To be honest I don't think many people are aware that Westminster and London are separate |
| 21:58.42 | Wormy_ | I say Snottingham because that was what it was called until a couple of centuries or so ago |
| 22:03.51 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 22:06.10 | Wormy_ | Nowadays its called "Shootingham" |
| 22:07.34 | The_Randomness | savage |
| 22:08.36 | Wormy_ | Its got a reputation for violent crime and run-down flats, to say the least. And people are quite rude there |
| 22:09.15 | Wormy_ | However, I'm bering mean. Its got a great creative quarter, science university and history |
| 22:11.43 | Wormy_ | Likely the creative quarter will dry up when we leave the EU, since its built on EU money |
| 22:11.52 | Xho | egad |
| 22:11.57 | Xho | Right, moving to Germany |
| 22:12.48 | Monet | "We've had enough of experts!" "Okay them we'll just emigrate now, buh-bye" |
| 22:12.52 | Wormy_ | My mother went to Germany on holiday and loved it, everything seems to work there |
| 22:13.04 | Wormy_ | trains run on time etc. |
| 22:13.20 | Xho | Wait until you see Japan |
| 22:13.40 | Xho | Actually everything works so well there that everything becomes abstract to the WEst |
| 22:13.48 | Xho | Which is why we have anime |
| 22:15.06 | Monet | So japan is so efficient and organised that the West looks like a random mess? |
| 22:15.37 | Xho | Actually more the other way around |
| 22:15.56 | Xho | I feel that Japan's so well organised that they got bored and invented tentacle hentai for shits and giggles |
| 22:17.42 | Wormy_ | I think Japanese society must be quite hard to live in really, high work hours, tight social expectations and rules, don't work well for stress and depression. |
| 22:18.53 | Wormy_ | Xho: I love this, from Nottingham https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3016/2836064966_f9611eb6aa.jpg |
| 22:19.00 | Xho | of course |
| 22:19.07 | Monet | The Japanese fascination with high school also fascinates me. |
| 22:19.46 | Hachiman | Well, for one, the legal age of consent is lower than it is in the UK |
| 22:19.51 | Hachiman | Around 14 I think |
| 22:20.13 | Xho | 13 |
| 22:20.30 | Xho | Well |
| 22:20.56 | Monet | I know every country has at least some high school based media, but Tapan takes it a lot further. |
| 22:21.06 | Wormy_ | Maybe worryingly |
| 22:21.26 | Monet | Correct me but I heard somewhere that the society in Kill la Kill has a class system absedo n grades |
| 22:21.41 | Hachiman | Kinda |
| 22:21.51 | Xho | On what I gather it's actually 18 |
| 22:22.15 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 22:22.24 | Hachiman | I always heard it was stupidly low |
| 22:22.24 | Monet | Hachiman: How far off am I? |
| 22:22.39 | Xho | I dunno |
| 22:22.41 | Hachiman | Monet: Couldn't tell you because I didn't actually like KLK all that much |
| 22:23.28 | Monet | I mostly remember something about some kind of aristocracy made up of A+ grade students. |
| 22:23.40 | Xho | Most animes I've seen have a recurring hierarchical theme to them |
| 22:24.13 | Hachiman | Yeah hierarchy is massive in most anime |
| 22:24.29 | Hachiman | And the protagonists are often outside of the hierarchy, fighting against it even |
| 22:24.32 | Xho | One Punch Man still makes me laugh though |
| 22:24.50 | Hachiman | OPM is brilliant |
| 22:25.00 | Wormy_ | New Pilotredsun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMThv97LP9Q |
| 22:25.53 | Monet | I know that culturally East Asia is quite strict about the pecking order. |
| 22:27.14 | Monet | So much that Korean and Japanese airlines had a horrendous flight record partly because the co-pilot was often younger than the pilot and so couldn't raise his concern if the pilot made a mistake. |
| 22:28.23 | Imperios | Yep |
| 22:29.33 | Monet | Yeah reading up I'm seeing a number of Anime that give the student councils a *military body* and the right to imprison. |
| 22:30.16 | Monet | Actually what if all of this is a satire on the strict nature of Japanese society and Japanese peer-pressure. |
| 22:31.21 | Xho | Probably |
| 22:31.43 | Hachiman | I remember watching an in-depth analysis on KLK before but I don't care enough for the show to correct you on anything |
| 22:32.58 | Xho | Dragonball is sort of hierarchical although it was blown way, way out of proportion years ago |
| 22:33.20 | Xho | should've just stopped at cell |
| 22:33.55 | Monet | The frequency of the "totalitarian student dictatorship" trope in Anime does make me wonder if it's all an attack on the pressures applied by Japanese school and society. |
| 22:34.42 | Monet | After all, such a system probably shuns the creative types who pursue a career in creative writing or animation. |
| 22:36.39 | Monet | Or the writers could be using high school as a way to mask their displeasure - much like how science fiction has long been frequently used as a critique of contemporary issues. |
| 22:41.03 | Monet | Hachiman: The world's going freaking nuts for Sombra. |
| 22:41.12 | Hachiman | Indeed |
| 22:41.23 | Monet | Good trailer tho. |
| 22:41.36 | Hachiman | I dunno what to think about Sombra's abilities, but she looks cool |
| 22:42.01 | Hachiman | And she's dark-skinned Hispanic girl <3 |
| 22:42.07 | Monet | She's a pretty slick-looking hacker. |
| 22:42.45 | Monet | Though I almost rolled my eyes when I realised "oh these guys re Russians" |
| 22:43.32 | Hachiman | Well to be fair, Russia plays a significant part in Overwatch |
| 22:43.41 | Hachiman | And not actually as villains |
| 22:44.31 | Hachiman | And like TF2, nearly every character is essentially based on some form of stereotype from around the world |
| 22:44.33 | Monet | I havent' clued into the story but a little later on it did sound like there was more than MW3-style Make Russia Great Again going on. |
| 22:45.49 | Hachiman | Russia is anti-Omnic while the rest of the world is either struggling to coexist with Omnics, like in the UK, or is outright anti-Omnic themselves, like Australia |
| 22:46.22 | Hachiman | The only real exception is Africa which is pro-Omnic coexistence and I think Nepal too, considering there's an Omnic brotherhood of monks allowed to live there |
| 22:46.57 | Monet | TF2's sterotypes I understand fully. |
| 22:47.32 | Hachiman | Russia essentially wants to weaponize and mobilise in the event that another Omnic uprising happens, while Talon, the terrorist organisation that Reaper, Sombra, and Widowmaker all work for, wants to encourage another Omnic uprising as they thrive off the war economy, effectively |
| 22:48.39 | Imperios | Sombra |
| 22:48.43 | Imperios | some new OW char? |
| 22:48.46 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 22:48.55 | Hachiman | Mexican technopunk hacker |
| 22:49.23 | Monet | Blizzard's trailers always excite me. |
| 22:49.29 | Imperios | Huh |
| 22:49.34 | Imperios | So a counter to Mei then? |
| 22:49.43 | Hachiman | A counter to essentially almost everyone |
| 22:49.46 | Imperios | Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTyeE5oK7LQ |
| 22:50.05 | Hachiman | Her main abilities are based around cancelling and disabling other characters' abilities - including ultimates |
| 22:50.06 | Imperios | Fucking pandren Triads |
| 22:50.10 | Imperios | make that canon in WoW plz |
| 22:52.58 | Hachiman | What I love about the characters in Overwatch is that Blizzard does a lot of research into cultural backgrounds and national trends; one subtle example being that Reinhardt, Overwatch's resident German character, loves Hasselhoff |
| 22:53.24 | Hachiman | And Hasselhoff is wildly popular in Germany for whatever reason |
| 22:53.38 | Imperios | huh |
| 22:53.39 | Monet | Germans really loved hi min Baywatch. |
| 22:53.52 | Hachiman | It's even funnier when you consider that by the current timeline in Overwatch, Reinhardt is actually a Millennial |
| 22:54.00 | Hachiman | As in, born in the 2010s |
| 22:54.49 | Monet | That would make hi mnostalgic. |
| 22:55.15 | Monet | Hasselhoff has mostly fallen off the radar. |
| 22:55.20 | Hachiman | >Reinhardt feels he was born in the wrong generation |
| 22:55.33 | Xho | franku has something to say about that |
| 22:55.50 | Hachiman | ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo |
| 22:58.53 | Xho | praise chinchin |
| 23:00.00 | Hachiman | Meanwhile Torbjorn is a Swedish dwarf craftsman and weaponsmith who sports a massive, stylised beard and unfolds and builds turrets as if they came from Ikea |
| 23:00.27 | Monet | What's his opinion of Abba? |
| 23:01.21 | Hachiman | Hm not sure, don't think it's referenced, although it'd be neat if it was |
| 23:01.40 | Hachiman | And Winston is a silverback gorilla who loves children and was almost sniped by Widowmaker during the Overwatch trailer |
| 23:02.31 | Monet | Pretty sure Winston and Widowmaker were around before Harambe. |
| 23:02.43 | Monet | died I mean |
| 23:02.56 | Hachiman | Winston's ulti involves him going absolutely apeshit and getting his dick out |
| 23:04.11 | Monet | I think he's mostly gorilla tropes. Though I also get a Jekyll and Hyde vibe. |
| 23:04.45 | Xho | Needs more crowd control |
| 23:04.49 | Xho | like a bullet |
| 23:04.53 | Hachiman | kek |
| 23:09.07 | Monet | I'm interested in Overwatch but I'm watching my finances. |
| 23:09.44 | Monet | That and I'm worried I might fall into a black hole I will disappear in. |
| 23:11.02 | Xho | do uni things nao |
| 23:11.03 | OluapPlayer | That's enough WoW for now |
| 23:11.19 | OluapPlayer | Monet: I did Battle of Mount Hyjal and wow, Archimonde was the easiest boss |
| 23:11.54 | OluapPlayer | He actually died faster and did less damage than all the other bosses |
| 23:14.18 | OluapPlayer | Fighting the gargoyles with melee only was a bit of a nightmare |
| 23:14.36 | Monet | Wow. Surprising |
| 23:15.23 | OluapPlayer | Doing every single WotLK dungeon in heroic + Mount Hyjal has exhausted me to say the least |
| 23:21.22 | Monet | Certainly sounds like it would. |
| 23:23.11 | OluapPlayer | Was worth it though. A gazillion achievements + loot gold + two dragon mounts + two Exalted reps |
| 23:24.25 | Monet | I still have my Ymirjar Lord armour |
| 23:28.43 | Xho | Not sure how the Kicath would respond to this Gorge Dispute |
| 23:28.58 | Xho | More than likely condemn both nations for having fallen out in the first plac |
| 23:28.59 | Xho | place |
| 23:30.31 | OluapPlayer | Monet: One thing that bothers me though is the very blatant change in voice actors compared to WC3 |
| 23:30.42 | OluapPlayer | So many characters have completely different, and usually worse, voices |
| 23:32.23 | Monet | Xho: Very helpful of them. I'm sure being scolded by the Kicath will be received very warmly and the two sides will make up. |
| 23:32.38 | Xho | Kicath - better than exterminating once side |
| 23:33.07 | Xho | The Kicath won't intervene in something that doesn't concern them although they'd think this conflict is pretty laughable |
| 23:33.31 | Monet | There's no prestige coming from this at all |
| 23:34.01 | Xho | Kicath - exactly which is why we laugh |
| 23:34.40 | Monet | Oh wait |
| 23:34.54 | Monet | Rambert WAS yelled at, quite recently. |
| 23:35.13 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Also Blizzcon today revealed the next major patch after Gul'dan gets dealt with |
| 23:35.29 | OluapPlayer | Tomb of Sargeras, final boss: Kil'jaeden |
| 23:35.33 | Xho | The Kicath do somewhat disapprove of the French interventionism policy because it polarises their policy of not intervening |
| 23:36.23 | OluapPlayer | sunwell was merely a set back |
| 23:36.46 | Xho | As far as they see it it's two nations throwing their toys out of their prams over a miscalculated remark |
| 23:37.17 | Xho | Then again it's Quadrantia vs Xonexi |
| 23:37.24 | Xho | The Kicath ultimately don't see themselves as either |
| 23:38.28 | Monet | OluapPlayer: It was assumed back at the Sunwell he'd come back one day. |
| 23:39.02 | Xho | I wouldn't pry Kicathian politics to talk about Xonexi because they don't like the concept of Xonexi being the centre of Gigaquadrantic power |
| 23:39.43 | OluapPlayer | Well this is the Burning Legion expansion, and Kil'jaeden is the big bad of the Legion as of currently |
| 23:39.48 | Xho | U FACE JARAXXUS |
| 23:39.50 | OluapPlayer | Only fitting for him to show up at the Tomb |
| 23:39.59 | OluapPlayer | shup u dont even know who jaraxxus is |
| 23:40.20 | Xho | eredar lord of the burning legion of course |
| 23:40.30 | OluapPlayer | dont u cheeki breeki me |
| 23:40.35 | Xho | damke |
| 23:41.02 | Xho | I might write up about Kicathian Gigaquadrant views because it's not actually explained anywhere |
| 23:41.09 | Xho | Basically, they hate everywhere |
| 23:42.20 | Xho | Well they don't hate Milky Way and Borealis so much |
| 23:42.27 | Xho | They think Andromeda is on the verge of collapse |
| 23:43.02 | OluapPlayer | Me moving all away from Xonexi should indicate I want as little to do with its politics as possible |
| 23:43.15 | Xho | pirates and shit lul |
| 23:43.27 | Xho | I need to get back into doing Tuuros really |
| 23:43.49 | Monet | Xho: It's a bit more nuanced tha nboth sides throwing their toys out of the pram |
| 23:44.00 | Xho | Kicath - doesn't matter kiss and make up |
| 23:44.24 | Monet | France made every compromise short of bending before Rambert and accepting his infallible judgement. |
| 23:44.55 | Xho | This is why the Kicath aren't politically active; they don't give a shit about the moral majority and have a skewed logical rationalising process |
| 23:45.04 | Xho | They kind of fit better in Borealis because Borealis politics is savage |
| 23:45.29 | Xho | Case being Loron |
| 23:45.39 | OluapPlayer | Borealis politics = there is none |
| 23:45.47 | Xho | Kicath - exterminate loron works |
| 23:46.11 | OluapPlayer | Fre'kloar - non |
| 23:46.30 | Xho | Unfortunately when dealing with more emotionally convoluted species such as humans and the rest of the Gigaquadrant for that matter it's best to leave them alone unless it's a war situation |
| 23:48.01 | Xho | Whether the rest of the Gigaquadrant are aware of it or not, the Kicath are in the PAE out of a logical situation, not because they're playing happy families |
| 23:48.15 | Xho | Although they like the Draconis somewhat |
| 23:48.50 | Xho | Like to them is more like "We share psychological similarities so we can talk to them easier" |
| 23:51.01 | Monet | Draconis - Like it or not, that decision comes with responsibilities. If you want to be highlords, don't be moochers. |
| 23:51.12 | Xho | The only way they'd become more machine is if they started systematically exterminating species who don't conform with their logic |
| 23:51.24 | Xho | Which they have done in their history |
| 23:53.26 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 23:53.30 | Xho | Although warring with the Gigaquadrant is not a good idea because they're outnumbered |
| 23:54.07 | Monet | Part of the reason the French were upset at Kicath highlordship iirc was their greatest contribution to it was "we helped at the very end of the great war." |
| 23:54.19 | Monet | to Andromeda* |
| 23:54.51 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Also Kil'jaeden isn't the end. After 7.2 we're actually gonna to go Argus |
| 23:54.55 | Xho | pros outweighed the cons in the end since the PAE managed to pry the Kicath open to economic cooperation |
| 23:54.58 | OluapPlayer | go to* |
| 23:55.41 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Fuckin' sweet! |
| 23:56.03 | OluapPlayer | Going right at the heart of the Legion |
| 23:56.10 | OluapPlayer | that should be interesting |
| 23:56.52 | Charles_Murray | Yeah that move wasn't subtle at all |
| 23:56.58 | Charles_Murray | Kind of hurt really |
| 23:57.01 | Xho | Although that being said the Kicath could ultimately thrive outside of the PAE as well, although leaving the PAE where the Kicath are concerned would ring alarm bells |
| 23:57.39 | Xho | A race like the Kicath do not end alliances without the intention of harm |
| 23:58.31 | Monet | Maybe if the Kicath find other factions so alien in logic they could use non-kicath as envoys and ambassadors. |
| 23:58.40 | Xho | That sounds about right |
| 23:59.02 | Charles_Murray | Xho : The French don't really have an interventionist policy, actually; not exactly. They're engaged internationalists generally speaking, which means that they're going to actively nurse the health of international institutions and apply force where necessary in order to maintain the status quo |
| 23:59.04 | Xho | The Kicath are very 0 and 1 about things so political upset to them is met with a "so what" |
| 23:59.31 | Xho | Fair enough |
