IRC log for #sporewiki on 20161031

00:08.20Wormy_DrodoEmpire, Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5C2KGURcE
00:08.57DrodoEmpireey laymp
00:11.53DrodoEmpire*laymo
00:23.15TechnobliteratorWow
00:23.21TechnobliteratorApple's revenue didn't grow this year
00:23.29NeonPandagod damnit fucking AFKs
00:24.32MonetNeonPanda: Oh I hate those.
00:26.09MonetOne time I was doing Los Santos Connection with an AFK guy. NPCs found him and killed him twice.
00:26.17DrodoEmpirehur
00:26.21MonetBoth respawn tickets gone.
00:31.04NeonPandajust won a one on one against a levle 245
00:31.57DrodoEmpire>levle
00:32.08DrodoEmpireNow don't you use your fancy French words with us
00:32.40Wormy_goonight
00:35.43ImperiosNeonPanda: Hm, who would deal with a Jeanstealer cult?
00:35.46ImperiosHereticus or Xenos?
00:36.05NeonPanda2
00:37.18Imperioshttps://youtu.be/B2GXFglTNTI?t=16 When I finish a calculus problem
00:37.51NeonPandagotta hate it when people steal your jeans
00:37.55DrodoEmpire^
00:38.40ImperiosNeonPanda: But I kind of can imagine the situation when there's some nefarious cult of unclear origins and an OH guy enters to investigate
00:38.49ImperiosOnly for it to turn out to be jeanstealer
01:09.52Tek0516It's -1°C with the wind chill, we have the AC on with the windows open, and I'm still warm. >.<
01:10.28Tek0516F*** that heater. -.-
01:25.49DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/Zv0fD                                              speed limit's 45 btw
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01:43.22The_RandomnessHello
01:46.43DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/Th3EPsy
01:48.37The_RandomnessIs that a gun or a cannon?
01:48.39The_Randomness:P
01:51.23DrodoEmpireA bit of both
01:51.26DrodoEmpireXD
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01:57.02Spluff5You know what would be cool?
01:57.33Spluff5The ability to change the strength of gravity on the planet within an adventure
01:57.58DrodoEmpire^
01:58.06DrodoEmpireDefinitey
01:58.08DrodoEmpire*ly
01:58.26Spluff5Actually I've been thinking about if I designed SPORE 2, what features I would add.
01:58.32Spluff5That would be one of them.
02:00.45Spluff5Also, the ability to domesticate and ride creatures into battle during tribal stage.
02:02.05DrodoEmpireI'd want to see the entire stage system overhauled completely
02:02.22DrodoEmpireThe most egregious abstraction in my opinion is the tribal-civ thing
02:02.31DrodoEmpireAnd tribal stage is absolute wank
02:02.50The_Randomness^
02:02.57DrodoEmpirePersonally I'd love to see a less linear progression, something more natural and accurate
02:03.16DrodoEmpireAt the very least some sort of "city stage" to bridge civ and tribal
02:04.24DrodoEmpireI mean I think something that'd be cool and not too hard to do is, after a (heavily overhauled) "tribal stage" have a sorta "city stage" where you play from the iron age to the end of the colonial era
02:04.51DrodoEmpireBasically a grand strategy game of sorts
02:05.42DrodoEmpireWhere maybe you could either dominate militarily (like the Ottomans), through merchantilism/culture (like the Venetians), or maybe through colonialism (like Spain)
02:06.12Spluff5When i designed it there were two sub-stages to each stage.
02:06.26DrodoEmpireOnly for the civ stage to start with your empire collapsing due to nationalist sentiment, economic crash, or the colonies declaring independence
02:06.47DrodoEmpireWhich would throw you back significantly, but with better tech and set up the civ stage and thus new gameplay
02:07.26Spluff5For tribal there was the hunter/gather and then it progressed to ancient sort of villages like the Maori marae
02:07.36DrodoEmpireI wouldn't mind something of that sort
02:07.46DrodoEmpireLike hunting-gathering then transition to early villages
02:07.47Spluff5For Civ it was like the middle ages and then more like modern day.
02:07.53DrodoEmpireEhh
02:08.05DrodoEmpireI'd really like to see modern day separate
02:08.11DrodoEmpireAs civ
02:08.19NeonPandatbh one thing I'd like is a game purely consisting of the creature stage, though functioning more as a survival game trying to adapt in order to survive
02:08.23Spluff5The significant step in between being the industrial revolution
02:08.31DrodoEmpireYeah that'd be cool Panda
02:08.33DrodoEmpireWell
02:08.35The_RandomnessNeonPanda: that would be neat
02:08.38NeonPandaas in, you enter a new area, try to adapt your existing creature to be able to survive the new (and randomly generated) threats
02:08.42Spluff5Maybe yeah
02:08.43DrodoEmpireYeah, the industrial revolution, and a million other things
02:08.50DrodoEmpireThe rise of liberalism, nationalism, etc.
02:08.58Spluff5Although Space stage is my favorite.
02:09.06DrodoEmpireWhich occured in the mid 19th century
02:09.19Spluff5I think that that would be it. I like the simplicity of the game.
02:09.20DrodoEmpireIts definitely one of the better thought-out stages yeah
02:09.28The_Randomness^
02:09.37NeonPandahaving restrictions on how much you could change, for example a "DNA point" penalty on removing things as well as adding them so you have to be careful about niche evolutions
02:09.54Spluff5Sorry GTG
02:09.59Spluff5I'll be back later
02:10.00DrodoEmpireReally I wouldn't mind having every stage expanded in to a game of its own, where the save file is transferred from one game to the next
02:10.02DrodoEmpirekk
02:10.12DrodoEmpireIf it means each stage can be expanded upon more
02:11.24DrodoEmpireBasically I'd like to see something like Panda's idea -> RTS -> *EUIV* -> More RTS -> Space n' shit
02:12.31The_Randomnesssounds reasonable to me
02:13.03NeonPandathe developer in me is like "you know how long that's gonna take right" but yeah, it'd be a fine idea
02:13.26The_RandomnessNeonPanda: yeah, the problem with Spore is the massive scope
02:13.51NeonPandaalso the genre shift is a bit of a problem
02:13.57The_Randomnessyeah
02:14.12NeonPandalike realistically you'd want four separate teams working on it, one for stage one, one for stage two and four, one for three and one for five
02:14.34DrodoEmpireOh it'd cost a fortune to develop and to buy >.<
02:14.36The_Randomnesshave fun combining and/or funding that
02:14.40NeonPandabecause if you have one team doing all of it (aside from it taking forever) the ones that aren't in their favoured genre are going to suffer
02:14.40DrodoEmpireSo its not practical
02:15.03DrodoEmpireBut from a gameplay standpoint its the best option
02:15.06NeonPandanot shooting down the idea btw, just musing
02:15.14DrodoEmpireNope, that's fine
02:15.25NeonPandalike obviously it's not a practical idea, I'm just thinking how it would actually be done if it were to be
02:15.56DrodoEmpireIf an interested millionaire came along and funded it I mean
02:16.05DrodoEmpireThen its practical <.<
02:16.08NeonPandain order for it to come out in a reasonable release schedule you'd have to have an overarching body managing multiple design studios
02:16.55NeonPandathe issue is that those studios are going to need a really solid liaison structure to make sure they're using the same framework, so that save data is transferrable
02:17.09NeonPandaor at least so that they know what everyone calls the same thing so that it can be transferred
02:17.22DrodoEmpireYeah
02:17.57The_RandomnessI'm feeling the start of an idea that basically jumps straight from making your creature to a space stage of sorts
02:18.16The_Randomnesskind of like how in Stellaris you just choose/customize the species you play as
02:18.31The_Randomnessexcept with a lot more visual customization for the creature, of course
02:18.43NeonPandaI think if you wanted one studio to be handling all five stages, you'd be best off making them all turn-based
02:19.04NeonPandaTBS mechanics can be applied to almost anything, after all
02:20.36The_Randomnessyeah
02:20.51The_Randomnesshuh, wonder what a TBS creature stage may be like
02:21.22NeonPandaheh, I just remembered one of the assignments I did in TAFE, one of the other students had an error resolution function called pc_Wiggle
02:22.00NeonPandaas for a TBS creature stage, something a la that one Final Fantasy TBS they did once
02:23.18The_RandomnessTactics?
02:23.55NeonPandathat's the one
02:24.31NeonPandasocialising in spore is already a turn based affair, the combat isn't too far off
02:29.51The_Randomnessright
02:30.33The_RandomnessI was thinking something like managing your species instead of an empire, although I'm not sure how much sense that makes myself
02:32.51DrodoEmpireI don't think it much does, unless you wanna go the full god-game route
02:33.16The_Randomnessyeah
02:33.30The_RandomnessI was thinking that when it popped up as well
02:55.40DrodoEmpireSo
02:56.31DrodoEmpireI swear TV's tweets are just a drunken, slurred stream of consciousness
02:56.39DrodoEmpireBut at the very least his art's decent <.<
02:56.54DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvYybRCVMAAN2FB.jpg:large
02:57.12The_RandomnessWho's TV?
02:57.15The_Randomnessor rather
02:57.18The_Randomnessdo I want to know?
02:57.25DrodoEmpireArtist on twitter
02:57.34DrodoEmpireI follow a lot of those sorta people on twitter
02:57.56DrodoEmpireIf you know of Hyojin/Squizzy he's a wee bit like that
02:58.30The_RandomnessI don't, but that's probably because I don't use Twitter lol
02:58.43DrodoEmpireAhh fair
02:59.03The_Randomnessdoes he have any good shitposts, or is the non-art stuff just more or less nonsense?
02:59.57The_Randomnessactually, what am I even saying?
03:00.03DrodoEmpirehttps://twitter.com/____TV_____ - Here's his twitter <.<
03:00.14DrodoEmpireMostly just a stream of consciousness interspersed with art
03:00.39DrodoEmpireStrange, but, I'm alright with it XD
03:01.05The_Randomnesslol
03:01.35The_Randomnessyeah, that's pretty strange, but not the bad sort of strange
03:01.39The_Randomness"EAT ALL THE RAIN"
03:02.28DrodoEmpire<.<
03:03.59DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYx8OWIqVs w r o n g
03:04.27The_Randomnesslol
03:11.31DrodoEmpirehttps://i.redd.it/1mvbii0c9pux.png - Ooh I really really like this
03:12.53The_RandomnessDEUS VULT?
03:13.47DrodoEmpireDeus vult... sorta <.<
03:14.05The_Randomnessjust a little?
03:14.41DrodoEmpireWell
03:14.50DrodoEmpireGetting in to the history
03:15.44DrodoEmpireThe Teutonic order spent more time killing fellow Christians (including fellow Catholics like the Polish pictured) than they did cleaning out paganism <.<
03:16.08DrodoEmpireAnd then they *also* converted to Protestantism and became Prussia
03:16.14DrodoEmpireSo deus only sometimes vulted
03:16.45The_RandomnessI was going to say that I thought I heard about this, but I'm just getting this mixed up with the People's Crusade
03:16.50The_Randomnesstfw history pleb
03:16.53DrodoEmpirehur
03:17.43DrodoEmpireAhh Prussia, has there ever been a place so... err... Well, miserable
03:17.49DrodoEmpireLets be perfectly frank
03:17.50DrodoEmpire<.<
03:19.00DrodoEmpireTheir national dish was pickled fish for chrissake
03:19.20The_Randomnessew
03:19.21DrodoEmpire>.>
03:24.59DrodoEmpireHmm, I'll need to work on this later http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AIsordon-Ouvin_Clan_War
05:33.02NeonPandaon the subject of pickled fish, Iceland wins that competition
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05:43.12Spluff5I'm back
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06:22.20Spluff5Yo
06:24.38Wormy_hi
06:25.15Spluff5I took the advice from earlier to heart...
06:25.30Spluff5http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/24/BombariFleet.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031052637
06:36.25Wormy_Don't know if you caught me poisting this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Guide_To_Battle_Images
06:37.02Wormy_Nice ship designs btw
06:37.07Wormy_g2g
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10:11.04GhoulaeHi
10:11.24DeviliriosGhoulae: Hi, I need your help with probability theory. Can you help?
10:11.50GhoulaeOkay.
10:13.09DeviliriosSo basically I have to determine the mean/expected value of a function that looks something like this: (x^2 - x + 1)^1/2
10:13.45DeviliriosI first tried to get it through density, but they I realised getting the distribution function from this would be kind of... difficult
10:15.34DeviliriosSo I thought: could I get the expected value by just taking the average of the function as it is?
10:16.27DeviliriosTaking the area taken by the function where it is determined (from 0 to 1)
10:16.37DeviliriosVia integrals
10:16.51DeviliriosAnd then dividing it by 1 (1 - 0 = 1)
10:17.04DeviliriosWould that work? I presume it won't
10:18.38GhoulaeUnfortunately, I haven't done much probability since first year, which was now nearly four years ago.
10:19.03GhoulaeSo is this function not the probability density?
10:19.59DeviliriosNo, the function is just a function (it was originally geometric, the distance between a point on a perfect triangle and a random point on the opposing side
10:20.21Deviliriosveticle or something
10:20.31DeviliriosWhatever you call the pointy bits of a triangle in English
10:20.44GhoulaeVertices.
10:20.54DeviliriosThere we go
10:21.32DeviliriosSo I got that function that determines the distance based on the position of the random point on the side, which can go from 0 to 1
10:22.06DeviliriosAnd I am supposed to get the expected/average value of that distance
10:22.58GhoulaeIntegrating over the domain and then dividing by the domain, as you suggested, would also have been my first thought.
10:23.07DeviliriosSo are you saying that the function that gets the distance based on position IS the density?
10:23.23Devilirios>Integrating over the domain and then dividing by the domain
10:23.32DeviliriosWow that sounds so cool in English
10:23.39DeviliriosLike we are talking about empires
10:24.41GhoulaeMy thinking is based more on my memory of finding the average of functions in physics.
10:25.30GhoulaeThe probability itself would follow a uniform function, I would think: you're just selecting a point at random with no reason to favour any point over any other.
10:25.42DeviliriosYeah that is the idea
10:26.15GhoulaeAnd the probability density for a uniform distribution over a domain [a,b] is 1/(b-a). So that's your dividing-by-the-domain accounted for.
10:26.34Deviliriosdere we go
10:26.37DeviliriosThanks ^^
10:27.40GhoulaeNo problem.
10:28.43GhoulaeYes, that's it: the expectation of a function g(x) with a probability density f(x) is just the integral of f(x)g(x), and when f(x) is a constant... that's it.
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11:25.37HachimanHi
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12:28.28JepardiHi
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15:03.54GhoulaeWell I'm going to have that dooting stuck in my head all day now.
15:04.10SkeluapPlayerGood!
15:05.20SkeluapPlayerDevilrios: Do you want any of your fiction to have involvement with the Aether Drakes?
15:23.55Charles_MurrayDevilrios : The DPRK on this list doe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel
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15:26.52CyrannianHello everyone
15:26.59DevilriosCharles_Murray: That is kind of depressing
15:27.06Charles_MurrayOh?
15:27.36DevilriosA nation has one of the largest amount of soldiers in the world, but it is targeted against ITSELF
15:27.47Devilrios*amounts of
15:27.54DevilriosThat was poorly worded but you get the idea
15:28.13Charles_Murray308.5 soldiers per 1000 capita
15:28.18Devilrios#Grorious
15:28.33Charles_MurrayYeah, that's pretty bad
15:28.57SkeluapPlayer~punch Cyracula
15:28.57infobotACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyracula right on the nose
15:29.01DevilriosThousands of Koreans are recruited on both sides, TO KILL OTHER KOREANS
15:29.10SkeluapPlayerDevilrios: dum
15:29.13DevilriosThat is kind of nationalistic of me
15:29.16Cyracula~suck SkeluapPlayer
15:29.16infobotACTION sucks SkeluapPlayer's forehead
15:29.24DevilriosSkeluapPlayer: As in?
15:29.28DevilriosYes it is dum
15:29.30SkeluapPlayerAs in answer my question
15:29.47DevilriosHm, I can kind of see Vilas interacting with them but not sure how
15:31.08DevilriosActually what if Vilas are secretly using Aether drake energies to empower themselves
15:31.15Charles_MurrayDevilrios Can I talk to you in private?
15:32.05SkeluapPlayerDepends of how they're doing it
15:33.36DevilriosWell if they hunted them for it for example
15:33.50SkeluapPlayerThat'd make them enemies of the whole race
15:33.59SkeluapPlayer0/36000 Hated rep
15:35.34SkeluapPlayerIt could happen, but just keep in mind Aethers are meant to be very rare
15:36.14DevilriosLemme think
15:37.05DevilriosCharles_Murray: This kind of makes me think what would happen with Korean military in case of reunification
15:37.43DevilriosLike what could a unified Korea possibly do with that
15:37.53Charles_Murrayinvade China
15:37.57Charles_Murrayor Japan
15:37.59SkeluapPlayerI made nether drakes and your elves are now dragonmaw orcs
15:38.08Charles_MurrayRevenge for 2000 years
15:38.16DevilriosDo not forget Russia
15:38.17SkeluapPlayerNow you just need to make the Vila have bullshit-hard races
15:38.21SkeluapPlayerwith flying mounts
15:38.23Charles_MurrayThem too
15:38.46DevilriosPrimorsky Krai was Korean for like
15:38.52Charles_MurrayBut yeah no, that's a problem. It would be a more extreme case of German reunification
15:39.05DevilriosA century or so in the 10th century or something
15:39.32DevilriosAnd... well Germans had small militaries to begin with
15:39.52Charles_MurrayNot East Germany
15:40.20DevilriosRight so what did they do with them
15:40.30DevilriosThrew them into Iraq?
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16:05.27Charles_MurrayImpyDroid : Integrated their two militaries, so in the German military you have the odd sight of seeing Russian Mig-21's serving alongside American F4's
16:05.31Charles_MurrayWhich is funny
16:07.33Charles_MurrayBut the big problem is that Eastern European states had big militaries in general as a tool of indoctrination, the maintenance of public order, etc. When reunification happens and the cold war ends, there's no more need for a military that big, so you have to let go those excess servicemen, a lot of them from the economically disadvantaged East
16:08.27Charles_MurrayWhich is one of the complex issues stemming from reunification and bringing the communist/underdevelopped East back into the capitalist system
16:08.48Charles_MurrayTo this day there are problems
16:12.13Charles_MurrayHnnng Impy's gone
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16:14.33Charles_MurrayHnng
16:14.40Charles_MurrayImperios Did you get all of my messages?
16:15.14ImperiosYa
16:15.19Charles_MurrayCool
16:37.54Cyraculahttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e2/MidRim.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031163715 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/79/InnerRim.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031021548 - New maps, take a look
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16:56.35dino82_hi
16:56.47CyraculaHai dino!
16:56.53dino82_great song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-E6BnCVFA
16:57.13dino82_Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah a Cyracula? Is that a combi of a waptor and vampire? Dracula? Shapr Teeth :D
16:58.26Cyraculavlah, evervone has Halloween themed nicknames today
16:58.45dino82_vlah ahaha
16:58.46dino82_neat!
16:59.00dino82_Expect me, though I guess a dino is always scary :D
16:59.11dino82_hmm how do I change my name?
16:59.28CyraculaType /nick "the name you want"
16:59.37dino82_with the "
17:00.04Sharptooth:D
17:00.06Sharptooththanks!
17:01.27Sharptoothhowz all doing?
17:01.47Cyracularest in peace littlefoot's mom
17:01.55Sharptooth:d
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17:04.08TreebeardHello
17:04.16Sharptoothhi
17:04.16CyraculaHai Treebeard
17:04.39Cyraculahttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e2/MidRim.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031163715 - Added both the Talven and Rambo colonies to this map
17:05.20TreebeardThanks
17:07.16SharptoothNeat! Thanks! so they are up north
17:08.12CyraculaIndeed, close to the border with the Republic and the Apationagtus homeworld
17:08.26Sharptoothreally love this song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-E6BnCVFA
17:14.16Cyraculabrb shower
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17:21.01Screw_HalloweenWell someone had to do it
17:24.20Sharptoothlol
17:32.56Screw_HalloweenSkeluapPlayer Skeleweiner: Merriment on the last day of the year?                     Caligaduro - that's a paddlin'
17:33.13Skelewienerhur
17:35.19SkeluapPlayermeh
17:35.35Screw_HalloweenHeilen tho              awww shit nigga
17:40.47Skelewienerheilen was a skeleton nigga the whole time
17:41.30Screw_Halloween"what's good nigga"                             Shiarchon - RACIST
17:46.41Screw_HalloweenTruth be told I don't like Halloween that much
17:47.53SkelewienerI kinda like it I suppose
17:48.37SkeluapPlayerHalloween is the best holiday fuk u both
17:52.43SharptoothHmm, Christmas is pretty cool adn great as well
17:53.06Sharptoothnothign scary in house like spiders and pumkins, just cozy, presents, Santa, reindeers, hot chocolate :D
17:53.53Sharptoothin the Cyrannia Cluster you get this version of Santa: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sanfairy
17:53.56Sharptooth:P
17:54.05Screw_HalloweenMy favourite holiday is the weekend
17:54.19SharptoothWhaha firm statement!
17:55.02TechnobliteratorI don't celebrate halloween, personally
17:55.11Technobliteratorbut happy halloween, yo
17:55.12SharptoothJo!
17:55.17Technobliteratorhihi
17:57.43CyraculaNot a big fan of Halloween either, it's not fun when you have two dogs terrified of fireworks
17:59.10ImperiosAt least you have Halloween hur
17:59.34DemonriosI spent all Halloween in uni doing probability theory
17:59.49DemonriosThough that is something demonic
18:00.21DemonriosSkelewiener SkeluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vila_Arms.png Now that you mentioned Vila, I though they'd need proper arms
18:01.00SkeluapPlayerI see
18:01.05SkelewienerMost elves have proper arms
18:01.09SkelewienerThat's how they cast magic
18:01.21SkeluapPlayerWe don't have Halloween over here either
18:01.36SkeluapPlayerWe acknowledge its existence but there's no celebration
18:01.47DemonriosWe celebrate it but only on the local level
18:02.12DemonriosIndividual organisations and groups celebrate it but nothing on the national level
18:02.20DemonriosIn fact some people I believe do not like it
18:02.30DemonriosMany consider it to be alien to Russian values and all that
18:02.58DemonriosSkeluapPlayer: Hm. Is the Day of the Dead a purely Mexican thing or is it pan-Latino-American?
18:03.23SkeluapPlayerWe have an equivalent but it doesn't involve the Mexican celebration
18:03.42SkeluapPlayerWhat we do is basically just go to the graveyard and mourn the dead
18:03.56Screw_Halloweenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOApgb2_CIQ This is what I'd wear for Halloween however
18:04.11DemonriosSkeleuapPlayer: Ooh, Koreans have this
18:04.16Skelewiener>undead resurrected through light magic act like Day of the Dead undead
18:04.41DemonriosBut it's a bit earlier and there's a feast
18:04.52DemonriosI am not sure if Russians have anything like this though
18:05.48SkeluapPlayerDay of the Dead is a national holiday though, unlike Halloween. People work like normal during Halloween
18:07.08DemonriosThe closest Russians have to Halloween I think is the Maslenitsa but it's during the summer
18:08.51DemonriosSkeluapPlayer: I presume that if anyone in Brazil celebrates Halloween they do so during the closest weekend?
18:09.08SkeluapPlayerWe don't celebrate it at all
18:09.24SkeluapPlayerIt's just a normal day of the week
18:10.06DemonriosRight
18:10.42DemonriosIt's more popular here then. Our university celebrated it Saturday and there was a fest during the Weekend
18:10.47Demonrios*last Saturday
18:11.55DemonriosSkelewieneer Screw_Halloween: http://www.tulapressa.ru/wp-content/images/54ddbdebc3b259.63878745.jpg Who needs Halloween when you have THIS
18:12.04Screw_Halloweenah yes
18:12.06Screw_Halloweenwhat is it
18:12.54DemonriosMaslenitsa
18:12.55DemonriosI think the closest Western equivalent would be Mardi Gras
18:13.12DemonriosLots of pancakes and hot food + outdoors celebrations + BURNING WICKERMEN
18:13.40Screw_HalloweenNOT THE BEES
18:14.03DemonriosWait are you Xho or Wormy
18:14.17SkeluapPlayerIt's Xho
18:14.46DemonriosAh, the lowercase letters confused me
18:15.10Screw_HalloweenWho else would put their name as 'Screw Halloween'
18:16.09DemonriosSome ultra-religious Christian
18:16.10SkeluapPlayerother people with SHIT TASTE like u
18:16.13DemonriosAeo or Val maybe
18:17.57SkelewienerIf only I could make a convincing pumpkin head in Spore for a headless horseman
18:18.18Screw_Halloweenfien den
18:19.46SkeluapPlayerpumkin
18:19.51SkeluapPlayergive me the sandwich
18:25.48SkeluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Aether_Drake that's done
18:27.43Spooky_Spu"During the modern day, the Aether Drakes have become enemies of the Vila Elves"                             Taihadrae - aw shit nigga
18:27.54SkelewieneraWESOME
18:27.57SkelewienerAwesome
18:28.36CyraculaVery nice work Oluap
18:29.47DemonriosYeah good work
18:30.13DemonriosTHough now that I think about it perhaps Vila outright sucking Aether Drake magic was not a good idea
18:30.21DemonriosMaybe there's some kind of pact between them?
18:30.34SkeluapPlayerThere could be
18:35.38DemonriosThough what kind of things could Aethers take in return?
18:35.50Spooky_Spusouls cause kek
18:37.12SkeluapPlayerI'm not sure
18:37.36SkelewienerPerhaps in return they could shave off years off the elves' lives
18:37.41SkelewienerAnd add them to their own
18:37.49SkelewienerSince they're not immortal anymore
18:37.52SkeluapPlayerThat works
18:39.21DemonriosCould be interesting
18:39.32DemonriosHell that could be a punishment
18:40.04DemonriosCriminals have their lifeforce sucked away by the dragons
18:40.56Spooky_Spulifeforce succ
18:41.11SkeluapPlayerDrake - dont take this out of context
18:42.54Spooky_SpuPelagrios - must
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18:48.54The_WYRM"Skelewiener", I know who that is
18:49.30The_WYRMHappy Halloween 🎃 🎃 🎃
18:50.33SkelewienerHeh
18:50.38DemonriosHiya
18:51.30Cyraculavlah 😈
18:52.35CyraculaSharptooth: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Ramaprica - Take a look, remember this place?
18:52.54Skelewienertamaprick
18:53.01Skelewiener*ramaprick
18:54.44The_WYRMOh you
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18:55.59Spluff5Yo
18:56.10The_WYRMBTW guys, deals on Udemy for courses in everything https://www.udemy.com/courses/
19:00.25Spooky_SpuAudio production might be useful
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19:02.36Spooky_SpuSkeluapPlayer Demonrios Skeleweiner: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/92/Shadowrealm2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031190139  Made a new image for that place that will probably never be visited
19:03.06Spooky_SpuJust because it's Halloween and stuff
19:03.54SkeluapPlayerSo much for not liking halloween dingus
19:04.06SkeluapPlayerAlso wut, emojis on the IRC
19:04.15Spooky_Spueveryday is halloween to me, that's why i hate halloween
19:04.47Spluff5I made a bad ass thing
19:04.48DemonriosThe_WYRM Spooky_Spu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYbtAZjB8QM&index=2&list=FLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg
19:04.49Spluff5http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bc/BombariCarrier.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031190352
19:04.53Spooky_SpuGonna make the Shadowrealm more like Hell because there isn't actually a fire-and-brimstone hell
19:04.59The_WYRMDon't worry, we'll exorcise you during bewitching hour
19:06.29The_WYRMTechnobliterator could be Technoskelenator
19:06.56TechnobliteratorI don't celebrate Halloween and I don't erally want to spam other channels by changing my nick, so
19:07.18XhoAlright fun's over
19:07.21The_WYRMBar humbug
19:07.57XhoI need to make a proper Shadowrealmer
19:08.07XhoAs, how they appear in the Shadowrealm itself
19:08.10The_WYRMNot enough of Halloween imo, I miss out these days
19:08.11DemonriosI celebrated Halloween for two days straight
19:08.13CyraculaAll these vucking virevorks are beginning to irritate
19:08.33DemonriosThen I realised I forgot my homework and spend Sunday night and today doing it
19:08.42DemonriosThus missing the actualy Halloween
19:08.46Demonrios*actual
19:09.45XhoI could imagine Shadowrealmers looking like the Balrog or something like that http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111201466/4629377-9943972076-Balro.jpg
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19:10.14The_Wyrm_Ghosts in the plumbing
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19:11.17Cyraculahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Planets - finally finished this, some feedback would be swell
19:12.22XhoCyracula: dat not finished y u lyin
19:12.34Cyraculahur I mean the planets part
19:13.00XhoI like Ramaprica for reasons beyond obvious
19:14.19Cyraculahooray for warcrimes
19:15.37The_Wyrm_Good ol' Zilium
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19:22.57WyrmyWasn't Sharptooth a character in the Land Before Time?
19:24.49WyrmyI'm all alone on this train...
19:25.14CyraculaAye, he's dino
19:26.24WyrmyAh, makes sense
19:26.33WyrmyAh, makes sense
19:26.57WyrmyLand Before Time is one of those timeless cartoons I coukd fall in love with again
19:27.28Cyraculahttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5c/Capricornian.png/revision/20091026152546 http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2a/Libertus.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031192636 - They have come a long way hur
19:29.29WyrmyAye
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19:30.51CyraculaYou prefer the old one IIRC
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19:31.44WyrmyNot prefer, just feel nostalgia for
19:33.51DemonriosSkeluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXnKFpckyBI You watch these guys?
19:34.09SkeluapPlayerNever seen
19:34.39DemonriosMonet may also take a look
19:34.56MonetI used to
19:35.21SkeluapPlayerOh god the naked girl with a man voice
19:35.27SkeluapPlayerGot me good
19:35.51WyrmyGet spooped
19:36.13Monet<PROTECTED>
19:36.35DemonriosJokes on you, I visited Goldshire once
19:36.41DemonriosA dwarf death knight tried to hit on me
19:37.15SkeluapPlayerBEARD
19:37.23SkeluapPlayerI'm disappointed for the lack of Hogger
19:37.26Skelewiener>dwarf death knight
19:37.28SkelewienerThat sounds cool
19:37.59DemonriosWe then had a discussion if death knights are even capable of having intercourse
19:38.09DemonriosSkeluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfYeu1bVlhA
19:39.39SkelewienerWhat would a Koldenweltian death knight be like?
19:40.16DemonriosThere's X'impe
19:40.44SkeluapPlayerDemonrios: I always found the whole "there must always be a Lich King" thing really dumb
19:40.54SkeluapPlayerThe world was going pretty fine before the first one popped up
19:40.54DemonriosYeah
19:41.34MonetThe world was fine because there weren't as many undead running around.
19:42.20DemonriosYes but that also means that Arthas was an idiot for not letting his undead just run around and kill everyone
19:42.33DemonriosThough I guess it'd make sense if his main plan was to conquer rather than destroy
19:42.52SkeluapPlayerWasn't his plan to turn the PCs into servants all along?
19:43.02MonetTo be his undead generals
19:43.20MonetHis brokenly OP demigodlike undead generals.
19:43.56SkeluapPlayerGreat general of the Scourge, XxxSephirothDeathKnight1994xxX
19:44.35Demonrios"Nothing personnel kid"
19:45.41SkeluapPlayerThe Lich King realizes the error of his plans when his generals refuse to destroy the world because they're too busy farming for the giant flying gnome head at Ulduar
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19:47.28SkeluapPlayerI'm watching Cataclysm in reverse
19:47.43SkeluapPlayer"This expansion is meant to be about me"
19:47.45SkeluapPlayerfuk u green jesus
19:52.22MonetLol
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19:57.16WyrmyBye
20:15.03DemonriosSkeluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFepc_5VSg
20:15.12SkeluapPlayerI'm in game now
20:15.34Demonriosoh
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20:18.22DrodoEmpireHi everyone
20:18.40Sharptoothpoor ramaprica
20:18.42DrodoEmpirespoppy day today :o
20:18.48DrodoEmpire>.>
20:18.52Sharptoothsince that incident theneighbourhood went really downhill at that planet
20:24.47CyraculaXho: Do you still have the png for these guys? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Auil%C3%A1mi
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20:25.34XhoCyracula: I lost it about 4 years ago
20:26.05CyraculaAh found it, you uploaded it to the Sporepedia luckily
20:26.41Xhoah
20:26.52XhoI've lost connection to Sporepedia
20:31.31Monet"At one point, according to Xenophon, they attacked the city state of Elis, literally and entirely "because they had no one else to fight at the time.""
20:31.40Monetthey = Spartans
20:32.03DrodoEmpirehur
20:32.23SkelewienerBrutal
20:33.18MonetAt least it wasn't from some personal slight.
20:37.58Skelewienerhttps://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14600906_1359942784046713_4382294018002548157_n.jpg?oh=ccb2aa91a5a00f9fcc43a5c88e058f44&oe=58A3B915 Holy shit
20:38.12SkelewienerThat's some hardcore imagination
20:40.08DrodoEmpireOh wow lol
21:00.53Sharptooth:d
21:11.52MonetFinal location for Hitman 2016
21:12.15MonetA private hospital and resort located in Hokkaido, Japan.
21:14.35SkelewienerNice
21:16.03MonetBy the sound of it it's one of those "pay an arm and a leg, get cured of some rare form of cancer, recuperate in paradise" kind of place.
21:18.39Sharptoothbye bye
21:22.26MonetThese of the sorts of places I love in the Bond films.
21:25.01MonetCasino Royale had an elegent simplicity to it. No hammy villains, no wacky right-hand enforcers, no dastardly plot for revenge against the entire world
21:25.35XhoAnd Mads Mikkelsen who is outwardly terrifying
21:25.41MonetAnd it probably had the harshest Bond-held-captive scene
21:26.59MonetDaniel Craig, with no legwear in a chair with no bottom and Mads armed with an improvised flail basically.
21:33.20DemonriosSkeluapPlayer: Remember when I made my first coat of arms we were looking for stupid heraldry?
21:33.24Demonrioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Blason_de_la_ville_de_Buhl-Lorraine_%28Moselle%29.svg I found this one
21:33.32DemonriosSome French city
21:33.35DemonriosJust look at this guy
21:33.47SkeluapPlayerthat bird's got no beak
21:34.58DemonriosOr legs
21:35.01DemonriosHe looks so sad
21:41.26MonetHe looks mad
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21:59.46SkeluapPlayerWoo level 85
22:01.00MonetNow go, my son, to distant and mysterious Pandaland!
22:04.18SkeluapPlayeroh boy, bamboo
22:05.08SkeluapPlayerFunny thing is I've not even done Icecrown yet, I'm currently at the Storm Peaks
22:05.57Cyraculadumbo, do you have the Kaater png?
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22:06.26SkeluapPlayerI don't
22:06.34SkeluapPlayerIf it's not in Sporepedia then it's lost
22:06.39SkeluapPlayerIt's not a very good creature anyway
22:06.41ImpyDroidSkelewiener SkeluapPlayer: http://nypost.com/2015/02/06/woman-wins-1-5m-after-car-crash-turns-her-into-a-dominatrix/ Wow what a story
22:07.26XhoSkeluapPlayer: lvl 85                 hao much u playin dis shi
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22:07.57MonetOluap's soul is lost forever to the Metzen.
22:07.59ImpyDroidLevel 85 takes only like a week or two of gameplay
22:07.59SkeluapPlayerI've been playing for about 3 weeks
22:08.23SkeluapPlayerMind you I'm purposely playing low level areas
22:09.34SkeluapPlayerQuest chain I was doing ended. Guess I'm gonna go to Icecrown now
22:10.07CyraculaI'll just use the image you already have
22:10.43SkeluapPlayerJust disregard that creature
22:10.48SkeluapPlayerIt's not worth keeping
22:11.21CyraculaKaater - #rude
22:13.36CyraculaHm, also I need to update the Navajao I think
22:16.05Charles_BotAnyone seen Wormy?
22:17.55MonetHe left almost two hours ago.
22:19.39Charles_BotAlright, thanks
22:30.51CyraculaSkeluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/db/NavajaoProfile.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031223025 - dere, what do you think?
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22:59.17MonetHi
22:59.29Monethttp://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Imperial-Might-309134027 looked back on my collections and refound this
23:00.34MonetNew thing for my list of -like-to-do-butprobably-never-will: proper 3D models perhaps.
23:01.09Cyraculatis impressive
23:01.37MonetOne thing it definitely helped me understand.
23:01.43Monet20km is fucking massive.
23:04.34XhoKicath - not big enough tho
23:05.09Cyraculahttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Species - Completed this section
23:06.04XhoCyracula: Xohan Nu Doctó                                            you don't mess with the xohan
23:06.47Cyraculayus, most imaginative name of the year
23:14.01Monethttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14900437_2142846649273183_3343876273076294524_n.png?oh=b14027ad90537712cda7e2d02450bb6f&oe=5895619E
23:18.36DrodoEmpireBuddy's fingers are really long
23:29.21ImpyDroidSkelewiener: I just had a terrifying idea
23:29.42ImpyDroidEvangelion: the Movie, co-directed by Michael Bay and Zack Syderstone
23:29.48ImpyDroidSnyder
23:29.51SkelewienerHoly shit please no
23:31.24ImpyDroidOne man takes care of giant robots
23:31.33ImpyDroidThe other of Biblical references
23:31.43ImpyDroidBoth throw shittons of action
23:33.14MonetIt will be.
23:33.37MonetCraptastic.
23:50.22WorldcrafterSo guys, what would be a reasonable upper limit for the calibre of a naval cannon designed like those in World War 2?
23:50.23Tek0516So the backlash to this Crash Course Human Geography series has been curious. Its first video (now deleted) basically consisted of them claiming (without explanation) that a theory was racist and therefore wrong. People complained. One of the creators even made a comment that implied one of the reasons people hated it was because of sexism towards the female
23:50.23Tek0516host. And now they've issued a whole video apology about the series (taking full responsibility and admitting the mistakes)
23:50.47Tek0516Worldcrafter: I think DrodoEmpire can possibly help you
23:51.16DrodoEmpireTek0516: yeah saw that whole debacle
23:51.44DrodoEmpireVideo was utter garbage, like most serious criticisms of geographical determinism (as much as I dislike the term determinism, which is a wee strong anyway)
23:52.19DrodoEmpireAnd, yeah, they said something about the backlash being about the host being a woman as opposed to their video entirely consisting of ideology, faulty arguments, conjecture and poisoning the well
23:53.19Tek0516I'm sure the theory has its legitimate arguments against, like any other theory, but it simply ignored that.
23:53.28DrodoEmpireExactly
23:53.41DrodoEmpireMore extreme versions of geographical determinism anyway
23:53.50DrodoEmpireThe theory in general is pretty airtight and intuitive
23:53.52DrodoEmpireAnd broad
23:54.03DrodoEmpireWomen make up the majority of teachers, and call it anecdotal evidence if you must but I find male teachers get fucked with a bit more
23:54.19DrodoEmpireEspecially substitutes who fail to assert their authority quick;y
23:54.20DrodoEmpire*ly
23:55.17DrodoEmpireGGS itself is a fantastic book but sure it can be criticised
23:55.45DrodoEmpireBut not by calling it a fucking racist book, when literally the first sentence says it is not a racist treatise
23:56.02ImpyDroidWait
23:56.07ImpyDroidThey called GGS racist?
23:56.09DrodoEmpireAnd in fact was made to deconstruct racist views
23:56.12ImpyDroidThe actual fuck
23:56.13DrodoEmpireYes, the fucking morons\
23:56.20ImpyDroidSoooo
23:56.32Tek0516ImpyDroid: They called the entire theory racist with no justification
23:56.33ImpyDroidThe far right screams it is a Jewish conspiracy
23:56.40DrodoEmpireThey in fact said that geographical theories are racist in general, when the exact opposite is true
23:56.40ImpyDroidAnd the far left screams it is racist
23:56.44DrodoEmpireYes
23:56.52DrodoEmpireHorseshoe theory
23:56.57ImpyDroidIt works
23:56.59DrodoEmpireReasoned opinions are unwelcome by both sides >.<
23:57.23ImpyDroidLike who in the right mind would call GGS racist
23:58.06ImpyDroidThen if civilisations were not affected by geography
23:58.17Tek0516One of the basic implications of Environmental Determinism is even explaining how Europeans became dominant for reasons entirely unrelated to race. >.>
23:58.20ImpyDroidThen why India was more advanced than Africa for example?
23:58.36ImpyDroidSo are these guys anti-black then?
23:58.39DrodoEmpireYeah its obvious that history at the broadest level is determined by geography
23:58.53DrodoEmpireHow cultures develop, what tech they develop, what possible trading partners they have, etc.
23:59.17DrodoEmpireOf course, you can't point to the shape of the European coastline to explain why the Allies won WWII, but that's not the point
23:59.58ImpyDroidOkay so what do they propose INSTEAD of geographical determinism

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