00:08.20 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire, Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5C2KGURcE |
00:08.57 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymp |
00:11.53 | DrodoEmpire | *laymo |
00:23.15 | Technobliterator | Wow |
00:23.21 | Technobliterator | Apple's revenue didn't grow this year |
00:23.29 | NeonPanda | god damnit fucking AFKs |
00:24.32 | Monet | NeonPanda: Oh I hate those. |
00:26.09 | Monet | One time I was doing Los Santos Connection with an AFK guy. NPCs found him and killed him twice. |
00:26.17 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
00:26.21 | Monet | Both respawn tickets gone. |
00:31.04 | NeonPanda | just won a one on one against a levle 245 |
00:31.57 | DrodoEmpire | >levle |
00:32.08 | DrodoEmpire | Now don't you use your fancy French words with us |
00:32.40 | Wormy_ | goonight |
00:35.43 | Imperios | NeonPanda: Hm, who would deal with a Jeanstealer cult? |
00:35.46 | Imperios | Hereticus or Xenos? |
00:36.05 | NeonPanda | 2 |
00:37.18 | Imperios | https://youtu.be/B2GXFglTNTI?t=16 When I finish a calculus problem |
00:37.51 | NeonPanda | gotta hate it when people steal your jeans |
00:37.55 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:38.40 | Imperios | NeonPanda: But I kind of can imagine the situation when there's some nefarious cult of unclear origins and an OH guy enters to investigate |
00:38.49 | Imperios | Only for it to turn out to be jeanstealer |
01:09.52 | Tek0516 | It's -1°C with the wind chill, we have the AC on with the windows open, and I'm still warm. >.< |
01:10.28 | Tek0516 | F*** that heater. -.- |
01:25.49 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/Zv0fD speed limit's 45 btw |
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01:43.22 | The_Randomness | Hello |
01:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/Th3EPsy |
01:48.37 | The_Randomness | Is that a gun or a cannon? |
01:48.39 | The_Randomness | :P |
01:51.23 | DrodoEmpire | A bit of both |
01:51.26 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
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01:57.02 | Spluff5 | You know what would be cool? |
01:57.33 | Spluff5 | The ability to change the strength of gravity on the planet within an adventure |
01:57.58 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:58.06 | DrodoEmpire | Definitey |
01:58.08 | DrodoEmpire | *ly |
01:58.26 | Spluff5 | Actually I've been thinking about if I designed SPORE 2, what features I would add. |
01:58.32 | Spluff5 | That would be one of them. |
02:00.45 | Spluff5 | Also, the ability to domesticate and ride creatures into battle during tribal stage. |
02:02.05 | DrodoEmpire | I'd want to see the entire stage system overhauled completely |
02:02.22 | DrodoEmpire | The most egregious abstraction in my opinion is the tribal-civ thing |
02:02.31 | DrodoEmpire | And tribal stage is absolute wank |
02:02.50 | The_Randomness | ^ |
02:02.57 | DrodoEmpire | Personally I'd love to see a less linear progression, something more natural and accurate |
02:03.16 | DrodoEmpire | At the very least some sort of "city stage" to bridge civ and tribal |
02:04.24 | DrodoEmpire | I mean I think something that'd be cool and not too hard to do is, after a (heavily overhauled) "tribal stage" have a sorta "city stage" where you play from the iron age to the end of the colonial era |
02:04.51 | DrodoEmpire | Basically a grand strategy game of sorts |
02:05.42 | DrodoEmpire | Where maybe you could either dominate militarily (like the Ottomans), through merchantilism/culture (like the Venetians), or maybe through colonialism (like Spain) |
02:06.12 | Spluff5 | When i designed it there were two sub-stages to each stage. |
02:06.26 | DrodoEmpire | Only for the civ stage to start with your empire collapsing due to nationalist sentiment, economic crash, or the colonies declaring independence |
02:06.47 | DrodoEmpire | Which would throw you back significantly, but with better tech and set up the civ stage and thus new gameplay |
02:07.26 | Spluff5 | For tribal there was the hunter/gather and then it progressed to ancient sort of villages like the Maori marae |
02:07.36 | DrodoEmpire | I wouldn't mind something of that sort |
02:07.46 | DrodoEmpire | Like hunting-gathering then transition to early villages |
02:07.47 | Spluff5 | For Civ it was like the middle ages and then more like modern day. |
02:07.53 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
02:08.05 | DrodoEmpire | I'd really like to see modern day separate |
02:08.11 | DrodoEmpire | As civ |
02:08.19 | NeonPanda | tbh one thing I'd like is a game purely consisting of the creature stage, though functioning more as a survival game trying to adapt in order to survive |
02:08.23 | Spluff5 | The significant step in between being the industrial revolution |
02:08.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that'd be cool Panda |
02:08.33 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
02:08.35 | The_Randomness | NeonPanda: that would be neat |
02:08.38 | NeonPanda | as in, you enter a new area, try to adapt your existing creature to be able to survive the new (and randomly generated) threats |
02:08.42 | Spluff5 | Maybe yeah |
02:08.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, the industrial revolution, and a million other things |
02:08.50 | DrodoEmpire | The rise of liberalism, nationalism, etc. |
02:08.58 | Spluff5 | Although Space stage is my favorite. |
02:09.06 | DrodoEmpire | Which occured in the mid 19th century |
02:09.19 | Spluff5 | I think that that would be it. I like the simplicity of the game. |
02:09.20 | DrodoEmpire | Its definitely one of the better thought-out stages yeah |
02:09.28 | The_Randomness | ^ |
02:09.37 | NeonPanda | having restrictions on how much you could change, for example a "DNA point" penalty on removing things as well as adding them so you have to be careful about niche evolutions |
02:09.54 | Spluff5 | Sorry GTG |
02:09.59 | Spluff5 | I'll be back later |
02:10.00 | DrodoEmpire | Really I wouldn't mind having every stage expanded in to a game of its own, where the save file is transferred from one game to the next |
02:10.02 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
02:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | If it means each stage can be expanded upon more |
02:11.24 | DrodoEmpire | Basically I'd like to see something like Panda's idea -> RTS -> *EUIV* -> More RTS -> Space n' shit |
02:12.31 | The_Randomness | sounds reasonable to me |
02:13.03 | NeonPanda | the developer in me is like "you know how long that's gonna take right" but yeah, it'd be a fine idea |
02:13.26 | The_Randomness | NeonPanda: yeah, the problem with Spore is the massive scope |
02:13.51 | NeonPanda | also the genre shift is a bit of a problem |
02:13.57 | The_Randomness | yeah |
02:14.12 | NeonPanda | like realistically you'd want four separate teams working on it, one for stage one, one for stage two and four, one for three and one for five |
02:14.34 | DrodoEmpire | Oh it'd cost a fortune to develop and to buy >.< |
02:14.36 | The_Randomness | have fun combining and/or funding that |
02:14.40 | NeonPanda | because if you have one team doing all of it (aside from it taking forever) the ones that aren't in their favoured genre are going to suffer |
02:14.40 | DrodoEmpire | So its not practical |
02:15.03 | DrodoEmpire | But from a gameplay standpoint its the best option |
02:15.06 | NeonPanda | not shooting down the idea btw, just musing |
02:15.14 | DrodoEmpire | Nope, that's fine |
02:15.25 | NeonPanda | like obviously it's not a practical idea, I'm just thinking how it would actually be done if it were to be |
02:15.56 | DrodoEmpire | If an interested millionaire came along and funded it I mean |
02:16.05 | DrodoEmpire | Then its practical <.< |
02:16.08 | NeonPanda | in order for it to come out in a reasonable release schedule you'd have to have an overarching body managing multiple design studios |
02:16.55 | NeonPanda | the issue is that those studios are going to need a really solid liaison structure to make sure they're using the same framework, so that save data is transferrable |
02:17.09 | NeonPanda | or at least so that they know what everyone calls the same thing so that it can be transferred |
02:17.22 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
02:17.57 | The_Randomness | I'm feeling the start of an idea that basically jumps straight from making your creature to a space stage of sorts |
02:18.16 | The_Randomness | kind of like how in Stellaris you just choose/customize the species you play as |
02:18.31 | The_Randomness | except with a lot more visual customization for the creature, of course |
02:18.43 | NeonPanda | I think if you wanted one studio to be handling all five stages, you'd be best off making them all turn-based |
02:19.04 | NeonPanda | TBS mechanics can be applied to almost anything, after all |
02:20.36 | The_Randomness | yeah |
02:20.51 | The_Randomness | huh, wonder what a TBS creature stage may be like |
02:21.22 | NeonPanda | heh, I just remembered one of the assignments I did in TAFE, one of the other students had an error resolution function called pc_Wiggle |
02:22.00 | NeonPanda | as for a TBS creature stage, something a la that one Final Fantasy TBS they did once |
02:23.18 | The_Randomness | Tactics? |
02:23.55 | NeonPanda | that's the one |
02:24.31 | NeonPanda | socialising in spore is already a turn based affair, the combat isn't too far off |
02:29.51 | The_Randomness | right |
02:30.33 | The_Randomness | I was thinking something like managing your species instead of an empire, although I'm not sure how much sense that makes myself |
02:32.51 | DrodoEmpire | I don't think it much does, unless you wanna go the full god-game route |
02:33.16 | The_Randomness | yeah |
02:33.30 | The_Randomness | I was thinking that when it popped up as well |
02:55.40 | DrodoEmpire | So |
02:56.31 | DrodoEmpire | I swear TV's tweets are just a drunken, slurred stream of consciousness |
02:56.39 | DrodoEmpire | But at the very least his art's decent <.< |
02:56.54 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvYybRCVMAAN2FB.jpg:large |
02:57.12 | The_Randomness | Who's TV? |
02:57.15 | The_Randomness | or rather |
02:57.18 | The_Randomness | do I want to know? |
02:57.25 | DrodoEmpire | Artist on twitter |
02:57.34 | DrodoEmpire | I follow a lot of those sorta people on twitter |
02:57.56 | DrodoEmpire | If you know of Hyojin/Squizzy he's a wee bit like that |
02:58.30 | The_Randomness | I don't, but that's probably because I don't use Twitter lol |
02:58.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh fair |
02:59.03 | The_Randomness | does he have any good shitposts, or is the non-art stuff just more or less nonsense? |
02:59.57 | The_Randomness | actually, what am I even saying? |
03:00.03 | DrodoEmpire | https://twitter.com/____TV_____ - Here's his twitter <.< |
03:00.14 | DrodoEmpire | Mostly just a stream of consciousness interspersed with art |
03:00.39 | DrodoEmpire | Strange, but, I'm alright with it XD |
03:01.05 | The_Randomness | lol |
03:01.35 | The_Randomness | yeah, that's pretty strange, but not the bad sort of strange |
03:01.39 | The_Randomness | "EAT ALL THE RAIN" |
03:02.28 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
03:03.59 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCYx8OWIqVs w r o n g |
03:04.27 | The_Randomness | lol |
03:11.31 | DrodoEmpire | https://i.redd.it/1mvbii0c9pux.png - Ooh I really really like this |
03:12.53 | The_Randomness | DEUS VULT? |
03:13.47 | DrodoEmpire | Deus vult... sorta <.< |
03:14.05 | The_Randomness | just a little? |
03:14.41 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
03:14.50 | DrodoEmpire | Getting in to the history |
03:15.44 | DrodoEmpire | The Teutonic order spent more time killing fellow Christians (including fellow Catholics like the Polish pictured) than they did cleaning out paganism <.< |
03:16.08 | DrodoEmpire | And then they *also* converted to Protestantism and became Prussia |
03:16.14 | DrodoEmpire | So deus only sometimes vulted |
03:16.45 | The_Randomness | I was going to say that I thought I heard about this, but I'm just getting this mixed up with the People's Crusade |
03:16.50 | The_Randomness | tfw history pleb |
03:16.53 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
03:17.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh Prussia, has there ever been a place so... err... Well, miserable |
03:17.49 | DrodoEmpire | Lets be perfectly frank |
03:17.50 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
03:19.00 | DrodoEmpire | Their national dish was pickled fish for chrissake |
03:19.20 | The_Randomness | ew |
03:19.21 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
03:24.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, I'll need to work on this later http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AIsordon-Ouvin_Clan_War |
05:33.02 | NeonPanda | on the subject of pickled fish, Iceland wins that competition |
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06:22.20 | Spluff5 | Yo |
06:24.38 | Wormy_ | hi |
06:25.15 | Spluff5 | I took the advice from earlier to heart... |
06:25.30 | Spluff5 | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/24/BombariFleet.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031052637 |
06:36.25 | Wormy_ | Don't know if you caught me poisting this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Guide_To_Battle_Images |
06:37.02 | Wormy_ | Nice ship designs btw |
06:37.07 | Wormy_ | g2g |
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10:11.04 | Ghoulae | Hi |
10:11.24 | Devilirios | Ghoulae: Hi, I need your help with probability theory. Can you help? |
10:11.50 | Ghoulae | Okay. |
10:13.09 | Devilirios | So basically I have to determine the mean/expected value of a function that looks something like this: (x^2 - x + 1)^1/2 |
10:13.45 | Devilirios | I first tried to get it through density, but they I realised getting the distribution function from this would be kind of... difficult |
10:15.34 | Devilirios | So I thought: could I get the expected value by just taking the average of the function as it is? |
10:16.27 | Devilirios | Taking the area taken by the function where it is determined (from 0 to 1) |
10:16.37 | Devilirios | Via integrals |
10:16.51 | Devilirios | And then dividing it by 1 (1 - 0 = 1) |
10:17.04 | Devilirios | Would that work? I presume it won't |
10:18.38 | Ghoulae | Unfortunately, I haven't done much probability since first year, which was now nearly four years ago. |
10:19.03 | Ghoulae | So is this function not the probability density? |
10:19.59 | Devilirios | No, the function is just a function (it was originally geometric, the distance between a point on a perfect triangle and a random point on the opposing side |
10:20.21 | Devilirios | veticle or something |
10:20.31 | Devilirios | Whatever you call the pointy bits of a triangle in English |
10:20.44 | Ghoulae | Vertices. |
10:20.54 | Devilirios | There we go |
10:21.32 | Devilirios | So I got that function that determines the distance based on the position of the random point on the side, which can go from 0 to 1 |
10:22.06 | Devilirios | And I am supposed to get the expected/average value of that distance |
10:22.58 | Ghoulae | Integrating over the domain and then dividing by the domain, as you suggested, would also have been my first thought. |
10:23.07 | Devilirios | So are you saying that the function that gets the distance based on position IS the density? |
10:23.23 | Devilirios | >Integrating over the domain and then dividing by the domain |
10:23.32 | Devilirios | Wow that sounds so cool in English |
10:23.39 | Devilirios | Like we are talking about empires |
10:24.41 | Ghoulae | My thinking is based more on my memory of finding the average of functions in physics. |
10:25.30 | Ghoulae | The probability itself would follow a uniform function, I would think: you're just selecting a point at random with no reason to favour any point over any other. |
10:25.42 | Devilirios | Yeah that is the idea |
10:26.15 | Ghoulae | And the probability density for a uniform distribution over a domain [a,b] is 1/(b-a). So that's your dividing-by-the-domain accounted for. |
10:26.34 | Devilirios | dere we go |
10:26.37 | Devilirios | Thanks ^^ |
10:27.40 | Ghoulae | No problem. |
10:28.43 | Ghoulae | Yes, that's it: the expectation of a function g(x) with a probability density f(x) is just the integral of f(x)g(x), and when f(x) is a constant... that's it. |
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12:01.45 | Devilrios | Spook |
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12:28.28 | Jepardi | Hi |
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15:03.54 | Ghoulae | Well I'm going to have that dooting stuck in my head all day now. |
15:04.10 | SkeluapPlayer | Good! |
15:05.20 | SkeluapPlayer | Devilrios: Do you want any of your fiction to have involvement with the Aether Drakes? |
15:23.55 | Charles_Murray | Devilrios : The DPRK on this list doe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_military_and_paramilitary_personnel |
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15:26.52 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
15:26.59 | Devilrios | Charles_Murray: That is kind of depressing |
15:27.06 | Charles_Murray | Oh? |
15:27.36 | Devilrios | A nation has one of the largest amount of soldiers in the world, but it is targeted against ITSELF |
15:27.47 | Devilrios | *amounts of |
15:27.54 | Devilrios | That was poorly worded but you get the idea |
15:28.13 | Charles_Murray | 308.5 soldiers per 1000 capita |
15:28.18 | Devilrios | #Grorious |
15:28.33 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, that's pretty bad |
15:28.57 | SkeluapPlayer | ~punch Cyracula |
15:28.57 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyracula right on the nose |
15:29.01 | Devilrios | Thousands of Koreans are recruited on both sides, TO KILL OTHER KOREANS |
15:29.10 | SkeluapPlayer | Devilrios: dum |
15:29.13 | Devilrios | That is kind of nationalistic of me |
15:29.16 | Cyracula | ~suck SkeluapPlayer |
15:29.16 | infobot | ACTION sucks SkeluapPlayer's forehead |
15:29.24 | Devilrios | SkeluapPlayer: As in? |
15:29.28 | Devilrios | Yes it is dum |
15:29.30 | SkeluapPlayer | As in answer my question |
15:29.47 | Devilrios | Hm, I can kind of see Vilas interacting with them but not sure how |
15:31.08 | Devilrios | Actually what if Vilas are secretly using Aether drake energies to empower themselves |
15:31.15 | Charles_Murray | Devilrios Can I talk to you in private? |
15:32.05 | SkeluapPlayer | Depends of how they're doing it |
15:33.36 | Devilrios | Well if they hunted them for it for example |
15:33.50 | SkeluapPlayer | That'd make them enemies of the whole race |
15:33.59 | SkeluapPlayer | 0/36000 Hated rep |
15:35.34 | SkeluapPlayer | It could happen, but just keep in mind Aethers are meant to be very rare |
15:36.14 | Devilrios | Lemme think |
15:37.05 | Devilrios | Charles_Murray: This kind of makes me think what would happen with Korean military in case of reunification |
15:37.43 | Devilrios | Like what could a unified Korea possibly do with that |
15:37.53 | Charles_Murray | invade China |
15:37.57 | Charles_Murray | or Japan |
15:37.59 | SkeluapPlayer | I made nether drakes and your elves are now dragonmaw orcs |
15:38.08 | Charles_Murray | Revenge for 2000 years |
15:38.16 | Devilrios | Do not forget Russia |
15:38.17 | SkeluapPlayer | Now you just need to make the Vila have bullshit-hard races |
15:38.21 | SkeluapPlayer | with flying mounts |
15:38.23 | Charles_Murray | Them too |
15:38.46 | Devilrios | Primorsky Krai was Korean for like |
15:38.52 | Charles_Murray | But yeah no, that's a problem. It would be a more extreme case of German reunification |
15:39.05 | Devilrios | A century or so in the 10th century or something |
15:39.32 | Devilrios | And... well Germans had small militaries to begin with |
15:39.52 | Charles_Murray | Not East Germany |
15:40.20 | Devilrios | Right so what did they do with them |
15:40.30 | Devilrios | Threw them into Iraq? |
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16:05.27 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid : Integrated their two militaries, so in the German military you have the odd sight of seeing Russian Mig-21's serving alongside American F4's |
16:05.31 | Charles_Murray | Which is funny |
16:07.33 | Charles_Murray | But the big problem is that Eastern European states had big militaries in general as a tool of indoctrination, the maintenance of public order, etc. When reunification happens and the cold war ends, there's no more need for a military that big, so you have to let go those excess servicemen, a lot of them from the economically disadvantaged East |
16:08.27 | Charles_Murray | Which is one of the complex issues stemming from reunification and bringing the communist/underdevelopped East back into the capitalist system |
16:08.48 | Charles_Murray | To this day there are problems |
16:12.13 | Charles_Murray | Hnnng Impy's gone |
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16:14.33 | Charles_Murray | Hnng |
16:14.40 | Charles_Murray | Imperios Did you get all of my messages? |
16:15.14 | Imperios | Ya |
16:15.19 | Charles_Murray | Cool |
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16:56.35 | dino82_ | hi |
16:56.47 | Cyracula | Hai dino! |
16:56.53 | dino82_ | great song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-E6BnCVFA |
16:57.13 | dino82_ | Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah a Cyracula? Is that a combi of a waptor and vampire? Dracula? Shapr Teeth :D |
16:58.26 | Cyracula | vlah, evervone has Halloween themed nicknames today |
16:58.45 | dino82_ | vlah ahaha |
16:58.46 | dino82_ | neat! |
16:59.00 | dino82_ | Expect me, though I guess a dino is always scary :D |
16:59.11 | dino82_ | hmm how do I change my name? |
16:59.28 | Cyracula | Type /nick "the name you want" |
16:59.37 | dino82_ | with the " |
17:00.04 | Sharptooth | :D |
17:00.06 | Sharptooth | thanks! |
17:01.27 | Sharptooth | howz all doing? |
17:01.47 | Cyracula | rest in peace littlefoot's mom |
17:01.55 | Sharptooth | :d |
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17:04.08 | Treebeard | Hello |
17:04.16 | Sharptooth | hi |
17:04.16 | Cyracula | Hai Treebeard |
17:04.39 | Cyracula | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e2/MidRim.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031163715 - Added both the Talven and Rambo colonies to this map |
17:05.20 | Treebeard | Thanks |
17:07.16 | Sharptooth | Neat! Thanks! so they are up north |
17:08.12 | Cyracula | Indeed, close to the border with the Republic and the Apationagtus homeworld |
17:08.26 | Sharptooth | really love this song : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0-E6BnCVFA |
17:14.16 | Cyracula | brb shower |
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17:21.01 | Screw_Halloween | Well someone had to do it |
17:24.20 | Sharptooth | lol |
17:32.56 | Screw_Halloween | SkeluapPlayer Skeleweiner: Merriment on the last day of the year? Caligaduro - that's a paddlin' |
17:33.13 | Skelewiener | hur |
17:35.19 | SkeluapPlayer | meh |
17:35.35 | Screw_Halloween | Heilen tho awww shit nigga |
17:40.47 | Skelewiener | heilen was a skeleton nigga the whole time |
17:41.30 | Screw_Halloween | "what's good nigga" Shiarchon - RACIST |
17:46.41 | Screw_Halloween | Truth be told I don't like Halloween that much |
17:47.53 | Skelewiener | I kinda like it I suppose |
17:48.37 | SkeluapPlayer | Halloween is the best holiday fuk u both |
17:52.43 | Sharptooth | Hmm, Christmas is pretty cool adn great as well |
17:53.06 | Sharptooth | nothign scary in house like spiders and pumkins, just cozy, presents, Santa, reindeers, hot chocolate :D |
17:53.53 | Sharptooth | in the Cyrannia Cluster you get this version of Santa: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sanfairy |
17:53.56 | Sharptooth | :P |
17:54.05 | Screw_Halloween | My favourite holiday is the weekend |
17:54.19 | Sharptooth | Whaha firm statement! |
17:55.02 | Technobliterator | I don't celebrate halloween, personally |
17:55.11 | Technobliterator | but happy halloween, yo |
17:55.12 | Sharptooth | Jo! |
17:55.17 | Technobliterator | hihi |
17:57.43 | Cyracula | Not a big fan of Halloween either, it's not fun when you have two dogs terrified of fireworks |
17:59.10 | Imperios | At least you have Halloween hur |
17:59.34 | Demonrios | I spent all Halloween in uni doing probability theory |
17:59.49 | Demonrios | Though that is something demonic |
18:00.21 | Demonrios | Skelewiener SkeluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vila_Arms.png Now that you mentioned Vila, I though they'd need proper arms |
18:01.00 | SkeluapPlayer | I see |
18:01.05 | Skelewiener | Most elves have proper arms |
18:01.09 | Skelewiener | That's how they cast magic |
18:01.21 | SkeluapPlayer | We don't have Halloween over here either |
18:01.36 | SkeluapPlayer | We acknowledge its existence but there's no celebration |
18:01.47 | Demonrios | We celebrate it but only on the local level |
18:02.12 | Demonrios | Individual organisations and groups celebrate it but nothing on the national level |
18:02.20 | Demonrios | In fact some people I believe do not like it |
18:02.30 | Demonrios | Many consider it to be alien to Russian values and all that |
18:02.58 | Demonrios | SkeluapPlayer: Hm. Is the Day of the Dead a purely Mexican thing or is it pan-Latino-American? |
18:03.23 | SkeluapPlayer | We have an equivalent but it doesn't involve the Mexican celebration |
18:03.42 | SkeluapPlayer | What we do is basically just go to the graveyard and mourn the dead |
18:03.56 | Screw_Halloween | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOApgb2_CIQ This is what I'd wear for Halloween however |
18:04.11 | Demonrios | SkeleuapPlayer: Ooh, Koreans have this |
18:04.16 | Skelewiener | >undead resurrected through light magic act like Day of the Dead undead |
18:04.41 | Demonrios | But it's a bit earlier and there's a feast |
18:04.52 | Demonrios | I am not sure if Russians have anything like this though |
18:05.48 | SkeluapPlayer | Day of the Dead is a national holiday though, unlike Halloween. People work like normal during Halloween |
18:07.08 | Demonrios | The closest Russians have to Halloween I think is the Maslenitsa but it's during the summer |
18:08.51 | Demonrios | SkeluapPlayer: I presume that if anyone in Brazil celebrates Halloween they do so during the closest weekend? |
18:09.08 | SkeluapPlayer | We don't celebrate it at all |
18:09.24 | SkeluapPlayer | It's just a normal day of the week |
18:10.06 | Demonrios | Right |
18:10.42 | Demonrios | It's more popular here then. Our university celebrated it Saturday and there was a fest during the Weekend |
18:10.47 | Demonrios | *last Saturday |
18:11.55 | Demonrios | Skelewieneer Screw_Halloween: http://www.tulapressa.ru/wp-content/images/54ddbdebc3b259.63878745.jpg Who needs Halloween when you have THIS |
18:12.04 | Screw_Halloween | ah yes |
18:12.06 | Screw_Halloween | what is it |
18:12.54 | Demonrios | Maslenitsa |
18:12.55 | Demonrios | I think the closest Western equivalent would be Mardi Gras |
18:13.12 | Demonrios | Lots of pancakes and hot food + outdoors celebrations + BURNING WICKERMEN |
18:13.40 | Screw_Halloween | NOT THE BEES |
18:14.03 | Demonrios | Wait are you Xho or Wormy |
18:14.17 | SkeluapPlayer | It's Xho |
18:14.46 | Demonrios | Ah, the lowercase letters confused me |
18:15.10 | Screw_Halloween | Who else would put their name as 'Screw Halloween' |
18:16.09 | Demonrios | Some ultra-religious Christian |
18:16.10 | SkeluapPlayer | other people with SHIT TASTE like u |
18:16.13 | Demonrios | Aeo or Val maybe |
18:17.57 | Skelewiener | If only I could make a convincing pumpkin head in Spore for a headless horseman |
18:18.18 | Screw_Halloween | fien den |
18:19.46 | SkeluapPlayer | pumkin |
18:19.51 | SkeluapPlayer | give me the sandwich |
18:25.48 | SkeluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Aether_Drake that's done |
18:27.43 | Spooky_Spu | "During the modern day, the Aether Drakes have become enemies of the Vila Elves" Taihadrae - aw shit nigga |
18:27.54 | Skelewiener | aWESOME |
18:27.57 | Skelewiener | Awesome |
18:28.36 | Cyracula | Very nice work Oluap |
18:29.47 | Demonrios | Yeah good work |
18:30.13 | Demonrios | THough now that I think about it perhaps Vila outright sucking Aether Drake magic was not a good idea |
18:30.21 | Demonrios | Maybe there's some kind of pact between them? |
18:30.34 | SkeluapPlayer | There could be |
18:35.38 | Demonrios | Though what kind of things could Aethers take in return? |
18:35.50 | Spooky_Spu | souls cause kek |
18:37.12 | SkeluapPlayer | I'm not sure |
18:37.36 | Skelewiener | Perhaps in return they could shave off years off the elves' lives |
18:37.41 | Skelewiener | And add them to their own |
18:37.49 | Skelewiener | Since they're not immortal anymore |
18:37.52 | SkeluapPlayer | That works |
18:39.21 | Demonrios | Could be interesting |
18:39.32 | Demonrios | Hell that could be a punishment |
18:40.04 | Demonrios | Criminals have their lifeforce sucked away by the dragons |
18:40.56 | Spooky_Spu | lifeforce succ |
18:41.11 | SkeluapPlayer | Drake - dont take this out of context |
18:42.54 | Spooky_Spu | Pelagrios - must |
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18:48.54 | The_WYRM | "Skelewiener", I know who that is |
18:49.30 | The_WYRM | Happy Halloween ð ð ð |
18:50.33 | Skelewiener | Heh |
18:50.38 | Demonrios | Hiya |
18:51.30 | Cyracula | vlah ð |
18:52.35 | Cyracula | Sharptooth: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Ramaprica - Take a look, remember this place? |
18:52.54 | Skelewiener | tamaprick |
18:53.01 | Skelewiener | *ramaprick |
18:54.44 | The_WYRM | Oh you |
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18:55.59 | Spluff5 | Yo |
18:56.10 | The_WYRM | BTW guys, deals on Udemy for courses in everything https://www.udemy.com/courses/ |
19:00.25 | Spooky_Spu | Audio production might be useful |
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19:02.36 | Spooky_Spu | SkeluapPlayer Demonrios Skeleweiner: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/92/Shadowrealm2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031190139 Made a new image for that place that will probably never be visited |
19:03.06 | Spooky_Spu | Just because it's Halloween and stuff |
19:03.54 | SkeluapPlayer | So much for not liking halloween dingus |
19:04.06 | SkeluapPlayer | Also wut, emojis on the IRC |
19:04.15 | Spooky_Spu | everyday is halloween to me, that's why i hate halloween |
19:04.47 | Spluff5 | I made a bad ass thing |
19:04.48 | Demonrios | The_WYRM Spooky_Spu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYbtAZjB8QM&index=2&list=FLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg |
19:04.49 | Spluff5 | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bc/BombariCarrier.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031190352 |
19:04.53 | Spooky_Spu | Gonna make the Shadowrealm more like Hell because there isn't actually a fire-and-brimstone hell |
19:04.59 | The_WYRM | Don't worry, we'll exorcise you during bewitching hour |
19:06.29 | The_WYRM | Technobliterator could be Technoskelenator |
19:06.56 | Technobliterator | I don't celebrate Halloween and I don't erally want to spam other channels by changing my nick, so |
19:07.18 | Xho | Alright fun's over |
19:07.21 | The_WYRM | Bar humbug |
19:07.57 | Xho | I need to make a proper Shadowrealmer |
19:08.07 | Xho | As, how they appear in the Shadowrealm itself |
19:08.10 | The_WYRM | Not enough of Halloween imo, I miss out these days |
19:08.11 | Demonrios | I celebrated Halloween for two days straight |
19:08.13 | Cyracula | All these vucking virevorks are beginning to irritate |
19:08.33 | Demonrios | Then I realised I forgot my homework and spend Sunday night and today doing it |
19:08.42 | Demonrios | Thus missing the actualy Halloween |
19:08.46 | Demonrios | *actual |
19:09.45 | Xho | I could imagine Shadowrealmers looking like the Balrog or something like that http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111201466/4629377-9943972076-Balro.jpg |
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19:10.14 | The_Wyrm_ | Ghosts in the plumbing |
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19:11.17 | Cyracula | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Planets - finally finished this, some feedback would be swell |
19:12.22 | Xho | Cyracula: dat not finished y u lyin |
19:12.34 | Cyracula | hur I mean the planets part |
19:13.00 | Xho | I like Ramaprica for reasons beyond obvious |
19:14.19 | Cyracula | hooray for warcrimes |
19:15.37 | The_Wyrm_ | Good ol' Zilium |
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19:22.57 | Wyrmy | Wasn't Sharptooth a character in the Land Before Time? |
19:24.49 | Wyrmy | I'm all alone on this train... |
19:25.14 | Cyracula | Aye, he's dino |
19:26.24 | Wyrmy | Ah, makes sense |
19:26.33 | Wyrmy | Ah, makes sense |
19:26.57 | Wyrmy | Land Before Time is one of those timeless cartoons I coukd fall in love with again |
19:27.28 | Cyracula | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5c/Capricornian.png/revision/20091026152546 http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2a/Libertus.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031192636 - They have come a long way hur |
19:29.29 | Wyrmy | Aye |
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19:30.51 | Cyracula | You prefer the old one IIRC |
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19:31.44 | Wyrmy | Not prefer, just feel nostalgia for |
19:33.51 | Demonrios | SkeluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXnKFpckyBI You watch these guys? |
19:34.09 | SkeluapPlayer | Never seen |
19:34.39 | Demonrios | Monet may also take a look |
19:34.56 | Monet | I used to |
19:35.21 | SkeluapPlayer | Oh god the naked girl with a man voice |
19:35.27 | SkeluapPlayer | Got me good |
19:35.51 | Wyrmy | Get spooped |
19:36.13 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
19:36.35 | Demonrios | Jokes on you, I visited Goldshire once |
19:36.41 | Demonrios | A dwarf death knight tried to hit on me |
19:37.15 | SkeluapPlayer | BEARD |
19:37.23 | SkeluapPlayer | I'm disappointed for the lack of Hogger |
19:37.26 | Skelewiener | >dwarf death knight |
19:37.28 | Skelewiener | That sounds cool |
19:37.59 | Demonrios | We then had a discussion if death knights are even capable of having intercourse |
19:38.09 | Demonrios | SkeluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfYeu1bVlhA |
19:39.39 | Skelewiener | What would a Koldenweltian death knight be like? |
19:40.16 | Demonrios | There's X'impe |
19:40.44 | SkeluapPlayer | Demonrios: I always found the whole "there must always be a Lich King" thing really dumb |
19:40.54 | SkeluapPlayer | The world was going pretty fine before the first one popped up |
19:40.54 | Demonrios | Yeah |
19:41.34 | Monet | The world was fine because there weren't as many undead running around. |
19:42.20 | Demonrios | Yes but that also means that Arthas was an idiot for not letting his undead just run around and kill everyone |
19:42.33 | Demonrios | Though I guess it'd make sense if his main plan was to conquer rather than destroy |
19:42.52 | SkeluapPlayer | Wasn't his plan to turn the PCs into servants all along? |
19:43.02 | Monet | To be his undead generals |
19:43.20 | Monet | His brokenly OP demigodlike undead generals. |
19:43.56 | SkeluapPlayer | Great general of the Scourge, XxxSephirothDeathKnight1994xxX |
19:44.35 | Demonrios | "Nothing personnel kid" |
19:45.41 | SkeluapPlayer | The Lich King realizes the error of his plans when his generals refuse to destroy the world because they're too busy farming for the giant flying gnome head at Ulduar |
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19:47.28 | SkeluapPlayer | I'm watching Cataclysm in reverse |
19:47.43 | SkeluapPlayer | "This expansion is meant to be about me" |
19:47.45 | SkeluapPlayer | fuk u green jesus |
19:52.22 | Monet | Lol |
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19:57.16 | Wyrmy | Bye |
20:15.03 | Demonrios | SkeluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFepc_5VSg |
20:15.12 | SkeluapPlayer | I'm in game now |
20:15.34 | Demonrios | oh |
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20:18.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
20:18.40 | Sharptooth | poor ramaprica |
20:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | spoppy day today :o |
20:18.48 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
20:18.52 | Sharptooth | since that incident theneighbourhood went really downhill at that planet |
20:24.47 | Cyracula | Xho: Do you still have the png for these guys? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Auil%C3%A1mi |
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20:25.34 | Xho | Cyracula: I lost it about 4 years ago |
20:26.05 | Cyracula | Ah found it, you uploaded it to the Sporepedia luckily |
20:26.41 | Xho | ah |
20:26.52 | Xho | I've lost connection to Sporepedia |
20:31.31 | Monet | "At one point, according to Xenophon, they attacked the city state of Elis, literally and entirely "because they had no one else to fight at the time."" |
20:31.40 | Monet | they = Spartans |
20:32.03 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
20:32.23 | Skelewiener | Brutal |
20:33.18 | Monet | At least it wasn't from some personal slight. |
20:37.58 | Skelewiener | https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14600906_1359942784046713_4382294018002548157_n.jpg?oh=ccb2aa91a5a00f9fcc43a5c88e058f44&oe=58A3B915 Holy shit |
20:38.12 | Skelewiener | That's some hardcore imagination |
20:40.08 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow lol |
21:00.53 | Sharptooth | :d |
21:11.52 | Monet | Final location for Hitman 2016 |
21:12.15 | Monet | A private hospital and resort located in Hokkaido, Japan. |
21:14.35 | Skelewiener | Nice |
21:16.03 | Monet | By the sound of it it's one of those "pay an arm and a leg, get cured of some rare form of cancer, recuperate in paradise" kind of place. |
21:18.39 | Sharptooth | bye bye |
21:22.26 | Monet | These of the sorts of places I love in the Bond films. |
21:25.01 | Monet | Casino Royale had an elegent simplicity to it. No hammy villains, no wacky right-hand enforcers, no dastardly plot for revenge against the entire world |
21:25.35 | Xho | And Mads Mikkelsen who is outwardly terrifying |
21:25.41 | Monet | And it probably had the harshest Bond-held-captive scene |
21:26.59 | Monet | Daniel Craig, with no legwear in a chair with no bottom and Mads armed with an improvised flail basically. |
21:33.20 | Demonrios | SkeluapPlayer: Remember when I made my first coat of arms we were looking for stupid heraldry? |
21:33.24 | Demonrios | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Blason_de_la_ville_de_Buhl-Lorraine_%28Moselle%29.svg I found this one |
21:33.32 | Demonrios | Some French city |
21:33.35 | Demonrios | Just look at this guy |
21:33.47 | SkeluapPlayer | that bird's got no beak |
21:34.58 | Demonrios | Or legs |
21:35.01 | Demonrios | He looks so sad |
21:41.26 | Monet | He looks mad |
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21:59.46 | SkeluapPlayer | Woo level 85 |
22:01.00 | Monet | Now go, my son, to distant and mysterious Pandaland! |
22:04.18 | SkeluapPlayer | oh boy, bamboo |
22:05.08 | SkeluapPlayer | Funny thing is I've not even done Icecrown yet, I'm currently at the Storm Peaks |
22:05.57 | Cyracula | dumbo, do you have the Kaater png? |
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22:06.26 | SkeluapPlayer | I don't |
22:06.34 | SkeluapPlayer | If it's not in Sporepedia then it's lost |
22:06.39 | SkeluapPlayer | It's not a very good creature anyway |
22:06.41 | ImpyDroid | Skelewiener SkeluapPlayer: http://nypost.com/2015/02/06/woman-wins-1-5m-after-car-crash-turns-her-into-a-dominatrix/ Wow what a story |
22:07.26 | Xho | SkeluapPlayer: lvl 85 hao much u playin dis shi |
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22:07.57 | Monet | Oluap's soul is lost forever to the Metzen. |
22:07.59 | ImpyDroid | Level 85 takes only like a week or two of gameplay |
22:07.59 | SkeluapPlayer | I've been playing for about 3 weeks |
22:08.23 | SkeluapPlayer | Mind you I'm purposely playing low level areas |
22:09.34 | SkeluapPlayer | Quest chain I was doing ended. Guess I'm gonna go to Icecrown now |
22:10.07 | Cyracula | I'll just use the image you already have |
22:10.43 | SkeluapPlayer | Just disregard that creature |
22:10.48 | SkeluapPlayer | It's not worth keeping |
22:11.21 | Cyracula | Kaater - #rude |
22:13.36 | Cyracula | Hm, also I need to update the Navajao I think |
22:16.05 | Charles_Bot | Anyone seen Wormy? |
22:17.55 | Monet | He left almost two hours ago. |
22:19.39 | Charles_Bot | Alright, thanks |
22:30.51 | Cyracula | SkeluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/db/NavajaoProfile.png/revision/latest?cb=20161031223025 - dere, what do you think? |
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22:59.17 | Monet | Hi |
22:59.29 | Monet | http://spacer176.deviantart.com/art/Imperial-Might-309134027 looked back on my collections and refound this |
23:00.34 | Monet | New thing for my list of -like-to-do-butprobably-never-will: proper 3D models perhaps. |
23:01.09 | Cyracula | tis impressive |
23:01.37 | Monet | One thing it definitely helped me understand. |
23:01.43 | Monet | 20km is fucking massive. |
23:04.34 | Xho | Kicath - not big enough tho |
23:05.09 | Cyracula | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannus_Galaxy/Core_Worlds#Species - Completed this section |
23:06.04 | Xho | Cyracula: Xohan Nu Doctó you don't mess with the xohan |
23:06.47 | Cyracula | yus, most imaginative name of the year |
23:14.01 | Monet | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14900437_2142846649273183_3343876273076294524_n.png?oh=b14027ad90537712cda7e2d02450bb6f&oe=5895619E |
23:18.36 | DrodoEmpire | Buddy's fingers are really long |
23:29.21 | ImpyDroid | Skelewiener: I just had a terrifying idea |
23:29.42 | ImpyDroid | Evangelion: the Movie, co-directed by Michael Bay and Zack Syderstone |
23:29.48 | ImpyDroid | Snyder |
23:29.51 | Skelewiener | Holy shit please no |
23:31.24 | ImpyDroid | One man takes care of giant robots |
23:31.33 | ImpyDroid | The other of Biblical references |
23:31.43 | ImpyDroid | Both throw shittons of action |
23:33.14 | Monet | It will be. |
23:33.37 | Monet | Craptastic. |
23:50.22 | Worldcrafter | So guys, what would be a reasonable upper limit for the calibre of a naval cannon designed like those in World War 2? |
23:50.23 | Tek0516 | So the backlash to this Crash Course Human Geography series has been curious. Its first video (now deleted) basically consisted of them claiming (without explanation) that a theory was racist and therefore wrong. People complained. One of the creators even made a comment that implied one of the reasons people hated it was because of sexism towards the female |
23:50.23 | Tek0516 | host. And now they've issued a whole video apology about the series (taking full responsibility and admitting the mistakes) |
23:50.47 | Tek0516 | Worldcrafter: I think DrodoEmpire can possibly help you |
23:51.16 | DrodoEmpire | Tek0516: yeah saw that whole debacle |
23:51.44 | DrodoEmpire | Video was utter garbage, like most serious criticisms of geographical determinism (as much as I dislike the term determinism, which is a wee strong anyway) |
23:52.19 | DrodoEmpire | And, yeah, they said something about the backlash being about the host being a woman as opposed to their video entirely consisting of ideology, faulty arguments, conjecture and poisoning the well |
23:53.19 | Tek0516 | I'm sure the theory has its legitimate arguments against, like any other theory, but it simply ignored that. |
23:53.28 | DrodoEmpire | Exactly |
23:53.41 | DrodoEmpire | More extreme versions of geographical determinism anyway |
23:53.50 | DrodoEmpire | The theory in general is pretty airtight and intuitive |
23:53.52 | DrodoEmpire | And broad |
23:54.03 | DrodoEmpire | Women make up the majority of teachers, and call it anecdotal evidence if you must but I find male teachers get fucked with a bit more |
23:54.19 | DrodoEmpire | Especially substitutes who fail to assert their authority quick;y |
23:54.20 | DrodoEmpire | *ly |
23:55.17 | DrodoEmpire | GGS itself is a fantastic book but sure it can be criticised |
23:55.45 | DrodoEmpire | But not by calling it a fucking racist book, when literally the first sentence says it is not a racist treatise |
23:56.02 | ImpyDroid | Wait |
23:56.07 | ImpyDroid | They called GGS racist? |
23:56.09 | DrodoEmpire | And in fact was made to deconstruct racist views |
23:56.12 | ImpyDroid | The actual fuck |
23:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, the fucking morons\ |
23:56.20 | ImpyDroid | Soooo |
23:56.32 | Tek0516 | ImpyDroid: They called the entire theory racist with no justification |
23:56.33 | ImpyDroid | The far right screams it is a Jewish conspiracy |
23:56.40 | DrodoEmpire | They in fact said that geographical theories are racist in general, when the exact opposite is true |
23:56.40 | ImpyDroid | And the far left screams it is racist |
23:56.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
23:56.52 | DrodoEmpire | Horseshoe theory |
23:56.57 | ImpyDroid | It works |
23:56.59 | DrodoEmpire | Reasoned opinions are unwelcome by both sides >.< |
23:57.23 | ImpyDroid | Like who in the right mind would call GGS racist |
23:58.06 | ImpyDroid | Then if civilisations were not affected by geography |
23:58.17 | Tek0516 | One of the basic implications of Environmental Determinism is even explaining how Europeans became dominant for reasons entirely unrelated to race. >.> |
23:58.20 | ImpyDroid | Then why India was more advanced than Africa for example? |
23:58.36 | ImpyDroid | So are these guys anti-black then? |
23:58.39 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its obvious that history at the broadest level is determined by geography |
23:58.53 | DrodoEmpire | How cultures develop, what tech they develop, what possible trading partners they have, etc. |
23:59.17 | DrodoEmpire | Of course, you can't point to the shape of the European coastline to explain why the Allies won WWII, but that's not the point |
23:59.58 | ImpyDroid | Okay so what do they propose INSTEAD of geographical determinism |