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| 00:00.32 | Hachiman | So |
| 00:01.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yep? |
| 00:01.56 | Hachiman | Could anyone imagine what the political climate would be like if, one day, Godzilla, or some Godzilla-esque creature, actually made its existence known to mankind |
| 00:02.10 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be pretty nuts |
| 00:02.25 | DrodoEmpire | Might be something by like AlternateHistoryHub about it |
| 00:02.30 | DrodoEmpire | He does all kinds of what-ifs |
| 00:03.01 | Monet | There is one. |
| 00:03.04 | Hachiman | I remember actually seeing a "what if Godzilla existed" video made by AHH |
| 00:03.18 | Hachiman | I was just curious about your opinions on the matter |
| 00:03.32 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:03.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I couldn't say >.< |
| 00:05.23 | Hachiman | What AHH forgets to mention, and what I believe many people often forget, is that Godzilla is essentially a living nuclear reactor in almost every way - including the fact that he heavily irradiates the environment around him with his mere physical presence |
| 00:05.41 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:05.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah he'd be a walking natural disaster >.< |
| 00:06.26 | Hachiman | It's potentially life-ending stuff |
| 00:08.22 | Hachiman | Entire regions of inhabited and fertile land would be left inhospitable to all but the most adaptable of fauna and flora, and Godzilla also spends vast amounts of his time at sea - which fucks over underwater biomes |
| 00:09.23 | DrodoEmpire | And isn't Godzilla coated in a thick layer of bullshittium that prevents modern hardware from damaging him? |
| 00:10.52 | Hachiman | I believe so, and whatever damage he does sustain, he can often regenerate anyway |
| 00:11.28 | DrodoEmpire | Right >.< |
| 00:11.37 | Hachiman | Which is why freezing him is often what most of the films resort to using to defeat him |
| 00:11.40 | Monet | Shrines to the great invincible radioactive monsters is understandable. |
| 00:13.18 | Hachiman | Any area that Godzilla visits would, realistically, be reduced to something reminiscent of Chernobyl and Pripyat |
| 00:13.41 | Hachiman | Then again talking realistically Godzilla would collapse under his own sheer mass before he even realised it if he ever set foot on land but eh |
| 00:13.44 | Monet | I'm not so sure. |
| 00:14.02 | Monet | Godzilla's radioactive, but he's passively radioactive. |
| 00:14.22 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah realistically Godzilla would never exist, and even if he *was* able to stand he'd be pretty easily blown apart by artillery and missiles |
| 00:14.57 | Monet | Now anywhere he dies would probably be like Chernobyl. |
| 00:16.59 | Monet | It might be risky to stand near him for extended lengths of time. But if he's passing though the radiation might clear after a few days/weeks |
| 00:17.08 | Hachiman | That's true |
| 00:18.11 | Hachiman | I think the idea that nuclear energy somehow grants Godzilla bullshittium and supernatural abilities is supposed to be somewhat metaphorical - especially regarding the fact that he's often portrayed as an entity that was indirectly created by mankind |
| 00:18.41 | Tek0516 | There was definitely an AHH with Kaiju stuff |
| 00:20.57 | Tek0516 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHnCtl6uO9c "What if Godzilla was real?" |
| 00:21.00 | Hachiman | On that note, I'm fucking pissed that Shin Godzilla is unlikely to be shown in the UK |
| 00:21.29 | Monet | Isn't it only being shown in Japan and the States? |
| 00:21.38 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 00:21.48 | Hachiman | And the States has a limited theatre run |
| 00:22.08 | Monet | It's mostly because the States is like Godzilla's second home. |
| 00:22.43 | Tek0516 | If he's not trashing Japan it's the US west coast getting leveled. |
| 00:23.23 | Monet | He his own star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame |
| 00:25.51 | Monet | Personally I find Shin Godzilla to be the stuff of nightmares. |
| 00:26.04 | Hachiman | Oh yeah, Shin Godzilla is outright demonic |
| 00:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | TRUMP https://i.gyazo.com/c67a785ce3fef663c4871a225d57aa01.png EXPOSED |
| 00:29.01 | Hachiman | Shin Godzilla was designed to match the demonic nature of the first Godzilla in the 1950s |
| 00:31.13 | Hachiman | And they also modernised the nuclear message from being outright anti-nuclear to something more open-minded - that in spite of how monstrous and abhorrent Shin Godzilla (nuclear power) is and how devastating it can be, they don't really have a choice other than to coexist with it |
| 00:31.54 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 00:33.18 | Hachiman | It kind of says something about how the Japanese populace feels about nuclear power when they live in the aftermath of the atomic bombs and the Fukushima nuclear disaster - there are rallies and protests against nuclear power throughout Japan |
| 00:34.02 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:35.38 | Monet | It sounds like Shin Godzilla is an attempt to say "calm down, we cant' close the lid, so we may as well live with it" |
| 00:36.38 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: I'm still not entirely convinced Trump and/or his supporters won't incite an uprising after the election. >.> |
| 00:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | They won't, and don't be ridiculous. |
| 00:37.16 | DrodoEmpire | An armed insurrection of any serious organisation is impossible and undesirable |
| 00:37.47 | DrodoEmpire | Among a base as large and diverse as Trump's in particular |
| 00:37.55 | DrodoEmpire | You run the whole gamut there |
| 00:38.49 | DrodoEmpire | And that's one thing I really do like about Trump- so many of his supporters are anti-establishment people who, while not a huge fan of Trump himself necessarily see him as a change or a rallying point |
| 00:39.10 | Monet | There might be lots of outrage, but I doubt they're organised enough to pull off any kind of uprising. |
| 00:39.15 | DrodoEmpire | For Clinton to dismiss them as "deplorables" is dishonest and idiotic, like many things Clinton related |
| 00:39.24 | DrodoEmpire | But, enough politics |
| 00:44.02 | Tek0516 | Eh, I don't really think they will. But I'm not 100% convinced some group of crazies won't. >.> |
| 00:44.26 | DrodoEmpire | Right well "a group of crazies" =/= "Trump base" |
| 00:45.21 | DrodoEmpire | Putting aside anything either of us think of Trump himself, his potential voter base runs everything from the small minority like the KKK to people like disaffected liberals who want change |
| 00:45.28 | DrodoEmpire | *Any* change |
| 00:45.39 | DrodoEmpire | (And people who want to avoid potential war with Russia) |
| 00:47.37 | Monet | I'll leave this to you guys over the pond. |
| 00:48.05 | DrodoEmpire | I don't really have much of a dog in this race as a Canadian >.< |
| 00:48.09 | DrodoEmpire | Neither does Tek |
| 00:48.22 | DrodoEmpire | Though I take a keen interest to what goes on, anyway |
| 00:48.37 | Monet | You're both closer to the action than I am. |
| 00:48.46 | DrodoEmpire | True |
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